--- Log for 15.12.107 Server: clarke.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 2 days and 8 hours ago 00.00.07 # :) 00.00.34 # I did an upgrade of it earlier today and I bet that is what broke it 00.00.38 # he did even 00.01.55 Join jhulst [0] (n=jhulst@unaffiliated/jhulst) 00.02.11 Quit davina (Remote closed the connection) 00.09.56 Quit z35 ("Leaving") 00.11.33 Quit midkay_ ("Leaving") 00.15.31 Join most-idiot [0] (i=nico@0x60.org) 00.15.37 Quit perrikwp (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00.17.14 # hi, i flashed rockbox on my ipod nano 1g, (using linux) - it works and I can mount it like any other device but under windows its not showing up in explorer, did i have missed something? 00.19.26 Join ctaylorr [0] (n=ctaylorr@CPE001839ae25b4-CM0011aea4a276.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) 00.22.05 Quit Nico_P (Remote closed the connection) 00.22.15 # I think the Ipods have to be either booted into the original firmware or put in disk mode manually at the moment for a data connection in windows - don't have an Ipod myself but this should always work 00.26.29 # ok, ill try this later, i have to leave now. thx 00.27.44 Quit spiorf (Remote closed the connection) 00.33.10 Quit qweru ("moo") 00.35.24 Quit Mouser_X (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00.37.25 Quit ZincAlloy ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 00.37.29 Quit J3TC- (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00.38.29 # i can now confirm that the problems i had with the vmware player are related to a change in apic handling 00.38.53 # ...so the image currently available on the rockbox page wont run with the current version of vmware player 00.40.24 Quit faemir (Remote closed the connection) 00.43.12 Join perrikwp__ [0] (n=chatzill@74.167.148.160) 00.43.16 Nick perrikwp__ is now known as perrikwp (n=chatzill@74.167.148.160) 00.44.02 Join Gnu47_ [0] (i=Gnu47@private.ntwk.thita.net) 00.44.31 Join Gnu47__ [0] (n=Gnu47@private.ntwk.thita.net) 00.45.29 Quit barrywardell () 00.46.22 Quit Gnu47 (Nick collision from services.) 00.46.26 Nick Gnu47__ is now known as Gnu47 (n=Gnu47@private.ntwk.thita.net) 00.46.52 Join barrywardell [0] (n=barrywar@host-194-46-247-4.dsl-ie.utvinternet.net) 00.48.30 Join Gnu47__ [0] (i=Gnu47@private.ntwk.thita.net) 00.49.46 Quit bertrik ("bye") 00.54.34 Join TMM [0] (n=hp@ip565b35da.direct-adsl.nl) 00.55.13 Quit Gnu47 (Nick collision from services.) 00.55.17 Nick Gnu47__ is now known as Gnu46 (i=Gnu47@private.ntwk.thita.net) 00.55.19 Nick Gnu46 is now known as Gnu47 (i=Gnu47@private.ntwk.thita.net) 00.56.49 Join Kage [0] (n=delphiki@ppp-88-217-78-160.dynamic.mnet-online.de) 00.58.27 Quit scorche|w ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)") 00.59.04 Quit perrikwp_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 01.00.55 Part toffe82 01.02.16 Quit Gnu47_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 01.04.14 Quit phr_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 01.05.43 Quit dan_a (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 01.05.47 Quit Arathis ("Bye, bye") 01.06.17 Quit jhulst ("Konversation terminated!") 01.06.38 Join phr_ [0] (n=phr@adsl-75-62-4-229.dsl.snfc21.sbcglobal.net) 01.08.20 Join dan_a [0] (n=dan_a@217.23.173.156) 01.10.15 Join midkay [0] (n=midkay@rockbox/developer/midkay) 01.12.14 Quit jhMikeS (Nick collision from services.) 01.12.20 Join jhMikeS [50] (n=jethead7@rockbox/developer/jhMikeS) 01.12.28 Join JamPS [0] (n=jamps@terttuselja.telemail.fi) 01.12.56 Quit miepchen^schlaf (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 01.13.13 Join miepchen^schlaf [0] (n=hihi@p54BF5ADD.dip.t-dialin.net) 01.22.23 Quit barrywardell () 01.22.41 Quit mf0102 ("Verlassend") 01.23.17 Join yoyoned [0] (n=todd@adsl-70-232-36-177.dsl.ltrkar.sbcglobal.net) 01.23.55 Join perrikwp__ [0] (n=chatzill@74.167.148.160) 01.26.07 Quit Langly ("I dont have anything to say, thats why I'm quitting in the first place.") 01.26.07 Quit Langly- ("I dont have anything to say, thats why I'm quitting in the first place.") 01.28.56 Quit PaulJam (".") 01.31.14 # Does Sansa see if phones are plugged in or not? 01.33.00 Join davina [0] (n=davina@cpc1-sout6-0-0-cust616.sotn.cable.ntl.com) 01.33.28 Join donutman25 [0] (n=chatzill@65.75.87.48) 01.35.56 Join jhulst [0] (n=jhulst@unaffiliated/jhulst) 01.41.43 Quit perrikwp__ ("ChatZilla 0.9.79 [Firefox 3.0b2pre/2007121108]") 01.42.29 Quit perrikwp (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 01.47.38 # just playing around with some "new" stuff (havent updated rockbox for months), i cannot seem to find the display options menu of mplayer 01.48.28 Join z35 [0] (n=z@149.123.33.65.cfl.res.rr.com) 01.48.29 # mpegplayer 01.49.47 # there is a second menu now (not ideal IMO) which is only available when the video is playing 01.50.33 # should be avaialble with "Rec" on X5 01.51.47 # available too :) 01.52.02 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 01.52.22 Join Mouser_X [0] (n=mouser_x@207.155.176.3) 01.52.56 Join Arathis [0] (n=doerk@p508A4B54.dip.t-dialin.net) 01.53.50 # I was thinking that is it possible to pause playback if Sansa detects that phones were disconnected? 01.53.58 # or dockbox 01.54.05 # s/d/r 01.54.17 # agh, maybe I should get some sleep 01.54.45 # pixelma, found it - weird place for it indeed, and should be mentioned in the wiki 01.55.12 # JamPS: the player needs specific hardware for that, I don't think the Sansas have it (there's no such option on my c200 at least) 01.55.23 # Topy44: it's a wiki... ;) 01.55.46 # yeah, give me write permission :) 01.56.30 # if you tell me your wiki name... 01.56.44 # just trying to remembered if i registred yet 01.56.46 # just a sec 01.57.23 Quit davina ("xchat on Ubuntu 7.04") 01.57.36 # yes, i did :) 01.57.49 # my name is ThorinHopkins 01.59.40 Quit Thundercloud (Remote closed the connection) 01.59.55 # you should be able to edit the wiki now :) 02.00.41 # thanks, i will 02.01.40 # * Mouser_X finds the wiki deleted. 02.01.42 # :P 02.04.12 Join salvatore_ [0] (n=salvator@cpe-24-59-253-209.twcny.res.rr.com) 02.04.37 Nick salvatore_ is now known as Errant33 (n=salvator@cpe-24-59-253-209.twcny.res.rr.com) 02.10.26 Quit Arathis ("Bye, bye") 02.13.49 Quit lee-qid_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 02.17.57 Quit Soap (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 02.20.01 Join Soap [50] (n=Soap@rockbox/staff/soap) 02.24.31 Quit billenium ("Ex-Chat") 02.25.12 Quit Kage ("return(EXIT_SUCCESS);") 02.34.22 Quit mirak ("Ex-Chat") 02.35.13 Quit madspin (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 02.35.42 Join madspin [0] (n=madspin@host86-133-239-239.range86-133.btcentralplus.com) 02.40.04 Join DaCapn [0] (n=dacapn@c-76-105-220-239.hsd1.or.comcast.net) 02.40.31 Join billenium [0] (n=billeniu@c-69-249-243-110.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) 02.43.06 Part pixelma 02.45.39 Quit madspin (Remote closed the connection) 02.47.28 Join LinuxMafia [0] (n=awatt@CPE001346a4c4cb-CM00159a642d7e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) 02.47.32 # hi 02.52.47 # i get no partion found when i turn it on, any idea 02.53.03 # ? 02.54.11 # ? 02.54.59 Quit MethoS- (Remote closed the connection) 02.55.27 Join MethoS- [0] (n=clemens@pD955FA59.dip.t-dialin.net) 02.56.12 Quit MethoS- (Remote closed the connection) 02.56.25 Join Dark_Apostrophe [0] (n=darkapos@supporter/monthlybyte/DarkApostrophe) 02.56.30 # Hello 02.56.35 # LinuxMafia, have you tried going through recovery mode and recovering the original firmware? 02.56.45 # Where do I get a ROM for pacbox? 02.56.56 # Dark_Apostrophe, you cannot ask for ROMs here. 02.57.07 # krazykit, no can u give me a link? 02.57.07 # Okay... :/ 02.57.08 # the only legal method is to own an arcade machine and rip it yourself 02.57.14 # LinuxMafia, check the wiki 02.57.14 # Dark_Apostrophe: from a pacman machine using a dumper 02.57.14 # Strange. 02.57.24 # why is that strange? 02.57.26 # So wait, this is an actual pacman game? :o 02.57.30 # krazykit, thanks 02.57.38 # no...that is a pacman emulator 02.57.43 # the ROM is the game 02.57.52 # Okay... strange. :/ 02.58.07 # Never mind... I'll hit some torrent sites. 02.58.17 Join MethoS- [0] (n=clemens@pD955FA59.dip.t-dialin.net) 02.58.18 # please dont discuss that here.. 02.58.29 # Okay, sorry. 03.00.24 # krazykit, can not find it 03.00.37 # please can any one give me the link 03.01.20 # LinuxMafia, which target? 03.01.33 # LinuxMafia, you obviously haven't looked that hard. it's linked from the e200 wiki page 03.01.42 # LinuxMafia, http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/SansaE200Unbrick 03.01.46 # aah 03.01.54 # krazykit, thanks e260 is same process? 03.01.57 # * scorche hates the name of that page 03.02.15 # LinuxMafia: e200 refers the whole series 03.02.17 # * Topy44 is still waiting for rockbox to compile 03.02.17 # scorche, me too. it'd be nicer to name it SansaE200Recovery 03.02.36 # who said it would take 5 minutes... its copiling since 11 and nowhere near done 03.02.37 # thanks alot 03.03.04 # Topy44: compiling all depends on your computer... 03.03.06 # Topy44, maybe you have a slow computer and/or are using cygwin 03.03.27 # i have a very very slow computer, yes :) (using vmware though) 03.03.49 # might aswell throw out all these useless plugins while i'm at it... 03.05.23 Join jac0b [0] (n=jacob@user-1120vha.dsl.mindspring.com) 03.08.39 # can anyone give me some pointers on encoding for the gigabeat in linux 03.08.50 # like what settings they use 03.08.52 # jac0b, encoding what 03.09.00 # videos 03.09.09 # i just use winff with the gigabeat preset. 03.09.18 # linux 03.09.30 # winff runs on linux. 03.09.33 Quit MethoS- (Remote closed the connection) 03.09.39 # really 03.09.59 # krazykit, i can not mount the device , so how can i Only copy .mi4 files to the recovery partition. 03.10.04 # I see win so I think its windows 03.10.29 # LinuxMafia, can you get the player into recovery mode? 03.10.41 # krazykit, yes 03.11.00 # plug in the USB cable after putting it into recovery mode. you should then be able to mount the recovery partition 03.11.35 # krazykit, the problem is my freind has the device with him 03.12.37 # krazykit, if the device /dev/sda1 how i can mount that partition 03.13.02 # LinuxMafia, mount -t vfat /dev/sda1 /mnt/somewhere 03.13.29 # krazykit, 03.13.51 Join Pio_ [0] (n=sean@64.251.10.106) 03.13.58 # thanks 03.18.52 # .mi4 file ? 03.19.16 Quit Galois (Remote closed the connection) 03.19.28 # http://daniel.haxx.se/sansa/mi4.html 03.19.35 Join Galois [0] (i=djao@efnet-math.org) 03.19.39 # LinuxMafia, get the .mi4 for your player. one of the e200 ones 03.19.54 # krazykit, thanks so much 03.20.26 # LinuxMafia, you'll need to reinstall the rockbox bootloader after this if you want to continue using rockbox 03.20.46 Nick fxb is now known as fxb__ (n=felixbru@h1252615.stratoserver.net) 03.21.00 # krazykit, he can not mount it 03.22.26 # LinuxMafia, if recovery mode was successful and he's now in the original firmware, he may need to put it into MSC mode in the options. 03.23.02 # krazykit, no he can not mount recovery partition 03.23.16 # any error, specifically? 03.23.47 # krazykit, he is noob in linux too , so he can not find out the device 03.23.54 # i told him look at dmesg 03.24.42 Quit zicho (Remote closed the connection) 03.24.52 # honestly, i can't help then. this is basic operating system knowledge at this point. Gnome and KDE both should discover and allow you to mount the recovery partition. beyond that, it's not really a rockbox problem: it's a learn-to-use-your-computer problem. 03.26.01 # krazykit, thanks i know i am helping him with that 03.29.09 Quit fasmaie (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 03.30.35 # winff just freezes when I try to encode videos 03.31.05 Quit Pio (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 03.31.28 # jac0b, run it from a terminal and see if it spews any error messages 03.32.19 # when I click convert it gives this "/bin/sh: /usr/bin/xterm: not found" 03.32.49 # do I need to install xterm 03.32.58 Quit Errant33 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 03.34.12 # jac0b, it seems that way. i guess winff assumes you have xterm installed. 03.36.04 Join zicho [0] (n=martin@c-5f9fe355.68-7-64736c14.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) 03.41.40 Join countrymonkey [0] (i=4b05639a@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-4522faf5bc400906) 03.42.11 # Here yall! 03.43.39 Join japc [0] (n=japc@bl7-242-200.dsl.telepac.pt) 03.45.24 # anyone here 03.46.28 # do you have a question? 03.47.18 # Just watching. I am bored. Just want to see what yall are up to 03.47.55 # But come to think of it. Yes. If I switch to the next track and go back within about a second, my dap freeses. Why? 03.48.16 # countrymonkey, are you using the latest build? that sounds like an old MoB bug 03.48.49 # This is nex->back. The old one was back beyond buffir. 03.49.04 # are you using the latest build? 03.49.20 # A few revs back. 03.49.59 # About 15799 03.50.41 # that's over 100 revisions behind. update and try again. 03.51.10 # These things happen fast. Let me update... 03.52.03 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 03.52.39 # *yawn* its rather tiresome waiting for these builds really... 03.52.50 # Hold on a sec 03.54.00 # What builds? 03.55.03 Join Thundercloud [0] (n=thunderc@84-51-130-71.judith186.adsl.metronet.co.uk) 03.56.25 # updating 03.57.34 # Testing 03.57.47 # honestly, we don't need updates while you do it. just the results. 03.58.32 # fixed. Just wanted you to know I didn't disappear. 04.00.13 # I want rb to time my workouts. Is there some plugin or another that could do that? I already use it to play music during workouts. 04.01.25 # countrymonkey, there's a stopwatch. 04.01.51 # I forgot, needs to play sound when time is up. 04.03.27 # i'm not aware of any such plugin, though it shouldn't be difficult to code. either write it yourself or file a feature request and hope someone fills it. 04.04.30 # Is it the type of feature request that will get rejected immidiately? I know some are like that. 04.04.39 Quit jac0b (Remote closed the connection) 04.05.04 # countrymonkey, no, i can see it being useful. if someone is sufficiently interested, it's likely to be included if done well 04.07.32 Quit Thundercloud (Remote closed the connection) 04.07.41 Quit donutman25 ("ChatZilla 0.9.79 [Firefox 2.0.0.11/2007112718]") 04.07.44 # There 04.08.48 Part yoyoned 04.10.12 Join Thundercloud [0] (n=thunderc@84-51-130-71.judith186.adsl.metronet.co.uk) 04.10.55 # be right back 04.18.11 # Why is nobody talking? 04.18.47 # this channel isn't always active. stay on topic. 04.22.28 Join keanu|afk [0] (n=keanu@unaffiliated/keanu) 04.23.03 # The web version of SVN is down, in case nobody noticed ;) 04.23.08 Join perrikwp [0] (n=chatzill@74.167.148.160) 04.40.55 # hm... was the recording histogram removed in the last few months? (or did i add it myself back then? i really cant remember...) 04.42.05 # You added it yourself it is a patch. 04.43.35 # hm, ok. i somehow thought to remember that it was commited at some point 04.49.46 Join tedr0ck [0] (n=tedrock@d235-156-27.home1.cgocable.net) 04.51.59 Quit tedr0ck (Client Quit) 05.01.15 Nick billenium is now known as BilleniumZzZ (n=billeniu@c-69-249-243-110.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) 05.02.36 # uuh, the histogram doesnt get close to work properly anymore... i'll update 05.06.26 Quit miepchen^schlaf (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 05.06.27 Quit tedrock (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 05.06.54 Join miepchen^schlaf [0] (n=hihi@p54BF441B.dip.t-dialin.net) 05.07.04 Join tedrock [0] (n=tedrock@d235-156-27.home1.cgocable.net) 05.08.42 Quit Thundercloud (Remote closed the connection) 05.16.07 Join Langly [0] (i=Langly@c-24-21-39-47.hsd1.mn.comcast.net) 05.24.36 Quit jhulst ("Konversation terminated!") 05.32.22 Join aliask [0] (n=chatzill@c58-109-97-210.eburwd4.vic.optusnet.com.au) 05.52.05 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 06.03.40 Quit japc (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 06.04.01 Quit XavierGr (Nick collision from services.) 06.04.04 Join XavierGr [0] (n=xavier@ppp92-55.adsl.forthnet.gr) 06.15.56 Join jhulst [0] (n=jhulst@unaffiliated/jhulst) 06.21.01 Quit countrymonkey ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)") 06.21.53 Quit Soap () 06.28.26 # I *think* that the very newest C200 firmwares attempt to automatically choose between MTP and MSC depending on the host. 06.29.08 # That might also be why the filesystem sometimes mounts as read-only on linux computers: An artifact of whatever else the C200 is trying to do. 06.37.10 Quit Seed (Nick collision from services.) 06.37.18 Join Seed [0] (n=ben@bzq-84-108-232-45.cablep.bezeqint.net) 06.44.04 Join ptw419 [0] (i=ptw419@cpe-72-179-164-213.satx.res.rr.com) 06.56.02 Quit Seed (Nick collision from services.) 06.56.10 Join Seed [0] (n=ben@bzq-84-108-237-178.cablep.bezeqint.net) 06.58.51 Quit ptw419 () 07.01.23 Quit Seed ("cu, Andre") 07.05.41 Join Seed [0] (n=ben@bzq-84-108-237-178.cablep.bezeqint.net) 07.05.41 Quit homielowe (Remote closed the connection) 07.09.54 # hm, i'm getting a lot of "gui_syncsplash" warnings 07.10.07 # what is its expected syntax? 07.14.00 Join rvvs89_ [0] (i=79dde97f@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-cc363d2b762b2c77) 07.14.20 # 'lo 07.14.25 # It's rvvs89 here from work 07.15.57 # I have a customer here from the gravity discovery centre in Western Australia who needs an mp3 player with an fm radio for a very specific purpose in their discovery centre\ 07.16.45 # I recommended the sansa e200 because she could potentially install a modified version of Rockbox on it to tailor it to the needs of the discovery centre 07.17.06 # If you guys have any suggestions for development or for a different player please let me know :) 07.17.33 # ie, if anyone is possibly interested in creating a custom build of rockbox for them, please let me know 07.19.00 Quit Seed (Nick collision from services.) 07.19.07 Join Seed [0] (i=ben@bzq-84-108-237-178.cablep.bezeqint.net) 07.19.59 Quit Seed (Nick collision from services.) 07.20.06 Join Seed [0] (n=ben@bzq-84-108-232-45.cablep.bezeqint.net) 07.26.30 Quit Seed (Nick collision from services.) 07.26.38 Join Seed [0] (i=ben@bzq-84-108-237-178.cablep.bezeqint.net) 07.31.57 Join perrikwp_ [0] (n=chatzill@74.167.148.160) 07.34.42 Quit perrikwp_ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 07.35.04 Join perrikwp_ [0] (n=chatzill@74.167.148.160) 07.37.38 Quit perrikwp_ (Client Quit) 07.38.01 # damnit... i can get it to compile, but i cannot remember what i did back then to get the histogram working 07.38.20 # i have my old build here which works fine, but its a 8 months outdated build 07.38.38 # and i dont have the source from then anymore 07.41.34 Quit Seed (Nick collision from services.) 07.41.41 Join Seed [0] (i=ben@bzq-84-108-237-178.cablep.bezeqint.net) 07.43.23 Quit EspeonEefi ("さよなら") 07.50.35 # is it safe to install the sansa e200 1.02.18 OF? 07.52.08 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 07.52.27 Quit perrikwp (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 07.52.55 Join Agrajag__ [0] (n=Agrajag@c-68-84-64-192.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) 07.53.28 Quit jhMikeS (Nick collision from services.) 07.53.34 Join jhMikeS [50] (n=jethead7@rockbox/developer/jhMikeS) 07.54.00 # Hey guys. Anyone on? I seem to have managed to get my iPod Photo in a state where it won't boot RB any longer! Any idea what might have happened? I switched over to the default firmware to check something and now it won't get out of that mode. 07.54.07 Quit jhMikeS (Client Quit) 07.54.40 Join jhMikeS [50] (n=jethead7@rockbox/developer/jhMikeS) 07.55.42 Part Agrajag__ 07.59.00 # its safe to install. 08.03.26 # rvvs89_: My recommendation for a player with an FM radio would actually be an H120/140 if you can find it. More user-serviceable and better battery life. 08.08.17 Join Eric [0] (n=chatzill@d207-81-67-190.bchsia.telus.net) 08.08.41 Quit Eric (Client Quit) 08.09.41 Join homielowe [0] (n=chatzill@d207-81-67-190.bchsia.telus.net) 08.16.11 Join j0tt [0] (n=j@unaffiliated/jott) 08.16.56 Join idnar [0] (i=mithrand@unaffiliated/idnar) 08.20.00 # Llorean, rvvs89: H3x0, X5 or X5L would also be an option (not X5V or M5) 08.26.20 # Thanks, I'll pass that on 08.26.22 # * rvvs89_ has to go 08.26.31 Quit rvvs89_ ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 08.26.53 Join mrkiko [0] (n=mrkiko@host169-98-static.34-88-b.business.telecomitalia.it) 08.27.29 Quit jott (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 08.28.32 Quit jhMikeS (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 08.29.51 Join jhMikeS [50] (n=jethead7@rockbox/developer/jhMikeS) 08.30.43 Join phr__ [0] (n=phr@adsl-75-62-4-229.dsl.snfc21.sbcglobal.net) 08.30.47 Quit phr_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 08.36.28 Join ddalton [0] (n=daniel@124-168-38-159.dyn.iinet.net.au) 08.37.42 Quit Pio_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 08.41.54 Join ptw419 [0] (i=ptw419@cpe-72-179-164-213.satx.res.rr.com) 08.47.40 Join Pio_ [0] (n=sean@h175.149.4.12.cable.frzr.cablerocket.net) 08.52.57 Join woodensoul [0] (n=woodenso@72.86.92.80) 08.53.59 # I'm looking to update my Gigabeat with an 80GB drive. According to the HardDriveReplacement wiki, the MK8007GAH will work, but they are scarce on eBay. Anyone know where to find one? 08.57.54 # http://www.google.com/search?q=MK8007GAH 08.58.51 # Well I tried that. 08.59.03 Join opus [0] (i=4aedbed4@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-8bf0317d4d41b7c2) 08.59.11 Join Rob222241 [0] (n=Miranda@p54B13ADC.dip.t-dialin.net) 08.59.43 # $500? 08.59.49 # hello all. I'm William Thomas, and I am asking for write permissions to the Wiki, so I can upload a theme. 09.01.24 Join davina [0] (n=davina@cpc1-sout6-0-0-cust616.sotn.cable.ntl.com) 09.01.57 # hello all 09.02.00 # I can't give permission, but what target is the theme for? 09.04.45 # opus: Give me a second and I'll add you 09.06.11 # opus: Should work now 09.07.01 Quit opus ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)") 09.08.57 Join opus [0] (i=4aedbed4@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-2e2a4507d0b85fcf) 09.09.24 # I'm porting the Pen&Paper Theme to the Sansa E200's 09.11.56 Join pixelma [50] (i=pixelma@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 09.14.26 Quit opus ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)") 09.17.24 Quit Rob2222 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 09.18.51 # with album art or no? 09.19.06 # by the way, my sansa has been locking up with recent builds for no apparent reason 09.21.02 Join petur [50] (n=petur@rockbox/developer/petur) 09.22.45 Join JazzBone [0] (n=jazzbone@cc829402-a.groni1.gr.home.nl) 09.23.36 Quit aliask (Remote closed the connection) 09.24.33 Quit davina (Remote closed the connection) 09.25.19 Join bertrik [0] (n=Bertrik_@249-022-045-062.dynamic.caiway.nl) 09.25.41 Join ompaul [0] (n=ompaul@gnewsense/friend/ompaul) 09.31.12 Part JazzBone 09.32.41 Join JazzBone [0] (n=jazzbone@cc829402-a.groni1.gr.home.nl) 09.43.40 Part JazzBone 09.44.33 Join JazzBone [0] (n=jazzbone@cc829402-a.groni1.gr.home.nl) 09.51.11 # * mrkiko syncing with svn 09.51.32 Quit petur ("shopping") 09.51.39 # the forums just stopped working :( 09.52.09 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 09.52.46 # As always. 09.53.04 # * amiconn finds it more annoying that ViewVC still doesn't werk :( 09.53.14 # Forums are kinda boring... ;) 09.53.24 # I'm more irritated by the failure of ViewVC too. 09.53.33 # I don't mind the forums being silent for a while at all. ;) 09.53.43 Quit GodEater (Remote closed the connection) 09.53.54 # Llorean: I just want to post my message and then I stop caring as well :) 09.54.22 Quit JdGordon (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 09.54.51 # Did you guys see my question on where to find an 80GB hard drive for the Gigabeat F. Scarce on eBay. 09.55.15 # woodensoul: You pretty much just have to spend time looking. I don't think there's any reliable/good source 09.55.32 # Llorean: there are people using old forum posts to install rockbox on their gigabeats and thereby screwing up :( 09.56.08 # Llorean: would be reasonable to give woodensoul these recommendations; 1 - See the hard disk name in some way, in Linux I can use hddtemp; 2 - Try to go to the manufacturer's site... 09.56.34 # I can see the model name on the HardDriveReplacement wiki page. 09.56.42 # i.e.: my iRiver reports a toshiba **** 09.56.51 # mrkiko: He's looking for an upgraded HD, so the current one doesn't matter. 09.57.04 # Only the connector and physical dimensions do. 09.57.11 # markun: That's no good. 09.57.29 # jhMikeS: Any reason Dithering isn't enabled by default in mpegplayer (or better yet, not an option)? 09.57.44 # Llorean: but he can find easily hard drives with the same pysical size but different capability. At least this can be done for Toshiba... 09.58.17 # mrkiko: What do you mean by "different capability"? 09.58.24 # As I said, it needs the same connector. 09.58.37 # Llorean: there was a guy in the installation section who kept saying he downloaded the right bootloader and kept getting "error -2" which doesn't exists in the current bootloader. Now we have another one, luckily he pointed out where he downloaded it from. 09.58.47 # mrkiko: He also stated earlier that he knew which model he was looking for already. So I responded to the fact that HE said which model he wants. 09.59.06 # markun: Is the old bootloader still posted somewhere? 09.59.27 Quit GodEater_ (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 09.59.43 # Llorean: speed. 10.00.15 # amiconn: On the few players that it does work on, realtime playback isn't a problem. 10.00.37 # I just want one that will work, and the most storage possible. 10.00.45 # markun: Have you seen the GigabeatFXPort page lately? I just looked at it and it looks very... overblown, I guess. 10.00.46 # Not with "usual" mpeg video, no. But somewhat might want to play high-bitrate video for whatever reason 10.01.18 # amiconn: On the Gigabeat at least, 1200kbps video still doesn't stuffer at 29.97 fps with Dithering. I think there at least, on-by-default shouldn't be a problem then. 10.01.37 # Which is where dithering offers the most visible improvement in my tests so far, at least. 10.01.40 # Also, some people might prefer the undithered look 10.01.56 # I prefer the dithered look 10.02.03 # I just wish I could get my videos converted successfully to put on the Gigabeat. 10.02.03 # Dithering gets rid of the banding, but at the cost of some graininess 10.02.07 # The dithered look offers a very significant improvement in visual quality, I think. 10.02.19 # woodensoul: which OS are you using? 10.02.32 # We could of course enable the option by default 10.02.40 # Enabling it by default would make me quite happy, I think. 10.02.51 # Btw, on c200, dithering is essentially for free 10.02.54 # I'll drop the "remove the option" suggestion. :) 10.02.54 # XP 10.03.00 # amiconn: Free? 10.03.17 # It just "fills" the lcd bridge wait time with some useful calculation 10.03.20 # * Llorean can't put video on his C200 right now, because windows will only recognize it as an MTP device. 10.03.37 # non-ordered dithering might look better, but I guess it's out of the question 10.03.53 # woodensoul: and which options did you try? winff? 10.03.54 # amiconn: The newest C200 firmwares work as a UMS device on my linux machine, and an MTP device under windows, without an option anywhere for me to manually set the USB mode. 10.04.12 # markun: I would have asked why he's following the installation instruction in a forum thread and not the manual... 10.04.14 # Can't you go back to an earlier OF? 10.04.16 # markun: I've tried the programs and I get errors due to the audio portion of the source videos I have. 10.04.52 # Yes, WinFF 10.04.52 # amiconn: I haven't tried downgrading yet. I just thought it was interesting to note there's apparently a firmware version out there that you can install Rockbox on from Linux, but not from Windows. 10.05.02 # woodensoul: which codec do you use for audio? 10.05.12 # (in the source videos I mean) 10.05.28 # pixelma: you can still ask him :) (http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=14375.0) 10.05.49 # pixelma: I'll edit my post and ask him myself, ok? 10.06.02 # markun: sure :) 10.06.44 # Not sure markun, ac3? The error I get says something like "can't support more than 2 audio channels" 10.07.08 Quit jhulst ("Konversation terminated!") 10.07.47 # woodensoul: yes, than you need to downmix the auio to 2 channels 10.07.49 # Llorean: I think I read reports that you can get devices with this firmware into MSC by holding a button during boot (maybe with "hold", don't remember) like the typical sandisk modes...- have you tried? 10.08.02 # woodensoul: add "-ac 2" to the "additional command line parameters" window 10.08.13 # pixelma: No, I haven't tried. 10.08.40 # I'll try that, brb 10.08.48 # Hmmmrrrmmm 10.08.57 # This PP5002 bug is annoying :( 10.09.21 # My last build is finally a working one, after many intermediate ones which crashed 10.09.46 # New one is r15923, last working one was r15871 10.09.48 # My sansa has been crashing lately. 10.11.11 # pixelma: I'll try to figure it out once the forums are responding regularly again, and I can track down one of those posts. It sounds familiar 10.11.30 # Aw crap, I can't attempt to convert the .avi now since Exact Audio Copy is ripping a CD and it doesn't allow windows to see another disc inserted. 10.12.31 # It sure does. Just autorun is disabled 10.12.32 # pixelma: Hah, "Mini-B->Device Mode" 10.12.32 # Turn on hold, hold down Rec, insert USB, and press Power. 10.12.32 # ...which anyone should disable completely for safety reason on windows, imho 10.12.39 # not in my experience amiconn 10.13.14 # No, that's recovery 10.13.14 # Just with a new name now 10.13.15 # =/ 10.13.16 # As long as EAC is running I can't see the contents of the data DVD I just inserted in another DVD drive. 10.14.14 # pixelma: there's a key combination to reformat the device, it seems. 10.14.20 # That's odd... can't verify this here (my laptop only has a single drive) 10.14.26 # Llorean: oh 10.14.30 # Anyway, ripping shouldn't take too long :) 10.14.49 # pixelma: I haven't found the one for MSC yet. :) 10.14.53 # rockbox respects copyright, us not.. .:) 10.14.58 Part JazzBone 10.16.00 # Llorean: there was someone with a c200 who accidentally formatted his device (and that damaged it), he asked me if I knew the key combination so he can avoid it (on his replacement c200) 10.17.06 # pixelma: Turn on Hold, hold down "Play/Pause" and press the power button 10.18.01 # ah, thanks. All these modes and secret features of Sandisk are a bit weird... 10.18.36 # Llorean: when you format a C2000, is it permanently damaged? Will you be able to boot it again? 10.18.52 # Do someone know about H3xx secrets? I'll google a bit later... 10.19.37 # Do you guys know how to get the presets to work with .31 version of WinFF? 10.19.54 # mrkiko: As long as you use the C200's firmware format option, it'll be fine 10.20.03 # mrkiko: usually it shouldn't do harm (except you're losing the files on it). It's something the original firmware provides and I think they didn't include a self-destruct... ;) 10.20.21 Quit phr__ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 10.20.30 # pixelma: The method for e200s without the option going into MSC won't work for my c200 at least 10.20.43 # woodensoul: Just download the older version of WinFF, or try to import them 10.21.04 Quit idnar (Nick collision from services.) 10.21.07 Join idnar_ [0] (i=mithrand@unaffiliated/idnar) 10.21.19 # pixelma: I think this also, but sometimes logic can't be used. Nokia 7110 had a self-destruct key combination, for example :) 10.21.21 # Llorean: I search a bit, think I saw the claim in our forums 10.21.37 # pixelma: no, I found the claim in the forums 10.21.41 # It's a little unclear, got it working 10.21.59 # Boot the OF. Once the OF is running, turn on Hold, hold down |<<, and insert USB 10.22.46 Join phr__ [0] (n=phr@adsl-75-62-4-229.dsl.snfc21.sbcglobal.net) 10.24.35 Join Sammienator [0] (n=stbouwer@a200098.upc-a.chello.nl) 10.24.47 # Seriously though, was a menu option "too easy"? Or did they just decide nobody needs MSC mode in windows, and it's a legacy option for other OSes only? 10.25.33 # those Sandisk options and modes are obsessive... 10.25.42 # oi... thanks for testing. Should that be in the manual or rather a recommendation to downgrade? And if the latter - I wanted to link to the wiki for the downgrade instructions which currently on the SansaC200Port page - should they be split out onto an own page? 10.26.06 # WinFF seems to be working now with those additional parameters. Did you guys find out about that recently because I asked a while ago, but no one knew. 10.26.12 # pixelma: I'd rather not suggest downgrading 10.26.39 # Downgrading, if done by someone not careful, results in a brick. Trying to enter MSC mode, if done by someone not careful, results in Sansapatcher saying "no sansas found", which is non fatal at least. 10.26.56 # woodensoul: I'm pretty sure I told you in a forum thread ages ago 10.27.34 # I don't think I posted a thread about it though. 10.27.39 # Well, I told someone about it 10.27.45 # So a search of the forums would probably turn it up. 10.27.53 # Maybe I tried it and it didn't work for me then... but it seems to be working now. 10.28.19 # What's the size end up for an hour and a half movie? 10.28.35 # I don't remember with the old presets. 10.28.41 # for the gigabeat F 10.28.43 # I'm working on new ones right now, actually. 10.28.53 # Llorean: just thought it would also save them trouble later when putting music on it. I don't know what restrictions (or not) there are in MTP mode - or they would have to use the above sequence each time for MSC mode. At least until our own USB stack is fully working... 10.29.07 Nick idnar_ is now known as idnar (i=mithrand@unaffiliated/idnar) 10.29.13 # A two hour movie came out to 250-350mb for me with my newer settings, and actually looks as good or better than the old ones (it's smaller than the old ones got) 10.29.33 # great 10.29.48 # pixelma: True, they'd have to use the key sequence every time they wanted to transfer music. MTP renames them, similar to how the Apple firmware does, I think. At least, it renamed my "data storage" files 10.30.45 # maybe the wiki should be updated to mention that parameter to get it to work 10.30.54 # Go ahead 10.31.11 # If I knew more about why it worked, I would. 10.31.22 # Simple 10.31.32 # MP3 doesn't work with more than 2 channel audio 10.31.43 # -ac 2 means "reduce it to 2 channels" 10.32.09 # There is actually a multichannel extension for mpeg audio 10.32.22 # But only few pc based encoders and decoders support that 10.32.43 # I could include forcing two channels in the next set of presets 10.32.57 # But I wanted to leave it "as source" on the assumption that people might also feed it videos with mono audio. 10.33.02 # good idea 10.33.07 # The bitstream, howver, is backwards compatible, as the extra channels are put into the auxiliary data 10.33.23 # And that people providing 5.1 content would be able to figure the error message, since I didn't find it a confusing message. 10.33.31 # "good idea oh lord" 10.33.37 # "of course it's a good idea!" 10.33.51 # amiconn: But lame can't encode these? 10.33.58 # "stop groveling" 10.34.01 # I don't think so 10.34.19 Quit Sammienator () 10.34.49 # hey Llorean, what's the battery life for videos on your gigabeat? 10.34.55 # My old DVD player had mpeg multichannel support. It's one of the optional DVD audio formats 10.34.59 # Dunno 10.35.10 # 4 hours maybe? 10.35.25 # Not sure whether my current one supports it - probably does though 10.35.54 # We have an AC3 codec in Rockbox right? 10.36.01 # yes 10.36.13 # Does it support multichannel downmixing? 10.36.18 # yes 10.36.22 # all I've ever watched is elephants dream 10.36.22 # Interesting. 10.37.14 # not really, i didn't even see any elephants in it 10.37.39 # but there's a skinny guy 10.37.46 # woodensoul: Honestly, try to stay Rockbox related. 10.38.23 # amiconn: Could you guess how fast it is relative to other codecs, or should I rip a sample and test it? 10.38.39 # Do you mean decoding in rockbox? 10.38.43 # Yeah 10.38.56 # Right, I now remember seeing "Please direct offtopic/social chat to #rockbox-communi" 10.39.01 # Decoding 2.0 is very fast. Faster than mp3 10.39.17 # Decoding 5.1 is somewhat slower due to the downmixing 10.39.22 # Understandably 10.39.23 # Note that my tests are ooold 10.39.40 # And very little optimization has probably been done, ever, for say ARM. Heh. 10.39.47 # Is there a publicly available encoder? 10.39.53 # ac3 is pretty fast 10.40.01 # still room for lots of optimization, though, it's just a pretty simple codec 10.40.03 # * amiconn just used tracks ripped from dvd for testing 10.40.37 # I don't know if there's a publicly available decoder. 10.40.44 # encoder, you mean? 10.40.46 # plenty of decoders 10.40.47 # Encoder 10.40.48 # Yeah 10.40.50 # Can't type 10.41.00 # preglow: Btw, interestingly, my test album encoded with vorbis (aotuv) q5 ends up smaller than musepack q5 10.41.06 # Is this expected? 10.43.44 # woodensoul: Okay, a video encoded from a DVD source, instead of a high definition source, came to 400MB for 1:45 movie. 10.44.13 # With the new presets? 10.44.21 # Llorean: (sorry for the late reply) maybe mention both (key sequence and downgrade), stressing that a downgrade is potentially dangerous if they don't follow the instructions by word - and let them decide? 10.44.39 # pixelma: Sounds good to me. 10.44.42 # woodensoul: Yes. 10.45.03 # Are you working on them for the newer version of WinFF? 10.45.30 # Llorean: alright. Thanks for your opinion. :) 10.45.34 # Right now they're just command line parameters for ffmpeg. I'll adapt them into presets for whatever version of WinFF is the current one once I'm happy with them. 10.45.38 Quit RichiH (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 10.45.43 Join RichiH [0] (i=richih@freenode/staff/richih) 10.45.52 # The quality may still be higher than strictly necessary. 10.45.58 # amiconn: well, quality factor interpretation will vary from encoder to encoder, so yeah, it's equally like to end up bigger 10.47.04 # Llorean: you have the 1.01.06 firmware version, right? Do you know if it works on 1.01.05 too (i.e. does the forum post mention it perhaps)? 10.47.05 # The screens are so small, that it seems you could get away with pretty low quality and not notice. 10.47.30 # pixelma: I don't think the forum post I found was specific, but I'm pretty sure I read at ABi or somewhere that it works with .05 10.47.52 # nice, thanks again 10.48.25 # So the iPod Video has the 2nd best mpegplayer performance? 10.48.42 # woodensoul: The Gigabeat screen (and iPod Video) are fairly large. I mean, if I encode the same video for the c200, it's a mere 187mb, and 65% of that is just audio. 10.48.51 # No, the iPod Video has pretty bad performance. 10.49.08 # It's not terrible any more, but I wouldn't call it 2nd best. Where did you get that from? 10.49.19 # well the gigabeat is easily the best 10.49.30 # wiki page for pluginmpegplayer 10.49.42 # i guess the sansa e200 is better than the ipod video by a hair 10.49.48 # Yes, look at the difference in revisions for those tests, though 10.50.35 # The tests are pretty invalid for comparison because many come before certain optimizations that a few come after. 10.50.39 # They aren't the same... I never did know what the revision number actually means though. Is the higher number a later version? 10.51.01 # Yes, higher numbers are newer versions of Rockbox. 10.52.10 Quit ompaul (Client Quit) 10.54.03 Quit TMM (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 10.54.26 # and so rockbox development is being managed with git instead of svn? 10.55.25 # Llorean: a different thing, are there more buttonlight ("button light" ?) options in the system options than just the timeout like with the Sansa? 10.55.48 # mrkiko: no, it uses svn 10.55.59 # pixelma: I'm not sure what you're asking? More button light options for what? 10.56.24 # argh, missed to type "gigabeat"... ;) 10.56.43 # mrkiko: although some people use git for their private tree (like me) 10.56.57 # pixelma: Just timeout and brightness. 10.57.14 Join ender` [0] (i=krneki@84-255-206-8.static.t-2.net) 10.57.15 # pixelma: Which is odd, because I think there's two separate sets of buttonlights that can be controlled indepedently. 10.57.19 # ah, so there is one other option - brightness 10.57.44 # Oooo, aaaah... 10.58.02 # * woodensoul is finally watching a video trancoded through WinFF. 10.58.11 # woodensoul: Make sure to turn on Dithering. 10.58.14 # thanks Llorean 10.58.28 # Llorean: well, then you could also have two different settings on the c200 - on for the main LEDs under the center button and one for the LED under "menu"... :) 10.59.07 # where's the dithering option for mpegplayer? I know about the one in the playback menu 10.59.10 # pixelma: One of the "Debug" options for the Gigabeat earlier on was an option to use one of the button lights as a disk activity LED. 10.59.28 # err sound settings menu 10.59.31 # woodensoul: Just press "Menu" while using it, and choose the top option and it should be under there, iirc. 11.00.44 # Sweet, found it. Looks good! 11.01.33 # Llorean: I think I read it was disabled on purpose... 11.01.35 # Thanks again, I'm off to watch the movie. :-) 11.02.04 # but markun should know better :) 11.02.18 # pixelma: The buttonlight options caused some problems originally. But I wouldn't mind seeing it come back as an option in the future if it can work well. Flickering the "Menu" light on the C200 to show disk activity would be nice too, for database building etc. 11.04.43 # Llorean: yes, I could imagine that very well too. But for now, I just wanted to know what to mention in the manual. I'm working on a few things at the moment... and even if the button light settings are not in their final place, I think they should be mentioned (already have prepared that, but not the brightness part) 11.05.20 # Yeah, definitely should be mentioned as they exist now. 11.05.24 # They can be edited if they change later 11.05.40 # and I need to check whether I broke something in other manuals... 11.06.15 Join petur [50] (n=petur@rockbox/developer/petur) 11.06.52 # the "System Options" chapter in the c200 manual was *very* wrong currently 11.25.46 # * mrkiko kexecs 11.25.50 Quit mrkiko ("leaving") 11.27.24 Nick parafin|away is now known as parafin (i=parafin@paraf.in) 11.27.36 Join mrkiko [0] (n=mrkiko@host169-98-static.34-88-b.business.telecomitalia.it) 11.28.17 # * mrkiko is back now 11.29.08 # mrkiko 11.29.13 # oops : 11.31.35 Join ffaae_anon [0] (n=UPP@c-75-74-188-178.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) 11.31.35 Quit Zone-Blaze (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 11.31.41 Nick ffaae_anon is now known as Zone-Blaze (n=UPP@c-75-74-188-178.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) 11.34.53 Join Mathiasdm [0] (n=Mathias@d54C597B6.access.telenet.be) 11.35.17 Quit Mathiasdm (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 11.38.35 Join keanu [0] (n=keanu@unaffiliated/keanu) 11.40.05 Join Domonoky [0] (n=Domonoky@e176236156.adsl.alicedsl.de) 11.40.44 Quit keanu|afk (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 11.46.02 Join Rondom [0] (n=Rondom@p57A9515F.dip.t-dialin.net) 11.47.03 Join n1s [0] (n=nils@nl104-209-129.student.uu.se) 11.52.12 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 11.58.01 Join crimsonfox [0] (i=crimsonf@dynamic-acs-24-239-62-214.zoominternet.net) 11.59.09 Part crimsonfox 12.04.40 Join JdGordon [0] (n=jonno@usw3662-s-207-244-148-63.dsl.w-link.net) 12.09.58 Join JazzBone [0] (n=jazzbone@cc829402-a.groni1.gr.home.nl) 12.19.36 # is viewvc dead or is it just me? 12.20.03 # its broken.. :-/ 12.21.48 # Bagder said Zagor updated it earlier yesterday and this probably broke it 12.24.03 Quit J (Remote closed the connection) 12.25.27 Quit mrkiko (Remote closed the connection) 12.26.41 Join moos [0] (i=moos@m237.net81-66-159.noos.fr) 12.27.37 Part JazzBone 12.30.02 Nick fxb__ is now known as fxb (n=felixbru@h1252615.stratoserver.net) 12.32.42 Quit ddalton ("Lost terminal") 12.33.12 Quit z35 ("Leaving") 12.33.21 Join JazzBone [0] (n=jazzbone@cc829402-a.groni1.gr.home.nl) 12.37.39 Join Lear [0] (i=chatzill@rockbox/developer/lear) 12.47.12 Join mf0102 [0] (n=michi@85.127.20.164) 12.51.22 Join MethoS- [0] (n=clemens@pD955CEBC.dip.t-dialin.net) 12.52.16 Join lee-qid [0] (n=liqid@p54966469.dip.t-dialin.net) 12.56.12 # Anyone who knows how long test_codec has been broken? :) As in not being able to test more than 9 files in a directory. Just curious, as I'm working on a fix... 12.57.31 Join Sammienator [0] (n=stbouwer@a200098.upc-a.chello.nl) 12.58.36 # How I get the source? 12.58.56 # Lear: the buf report in the tracker is from oct 14... 12.59.03 # s/buf/bug 13.00.01 # JamPS: Download it from the download page, or use SVN? 13.00.17 Quit desowin (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 13.00.19 # How about svn? 13.00.38 # JamPS: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/WebHome?topic=UsingSVN 13.01.13 # hmm thanks, will investigate later :) 13.01.46 Quit Sammienator (Client Quit) 13.03.14 Join countrymonkey [0] (i=4b05639a@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-ab81bde76353f9ed) 13.04.14 # when i compile a custom build i am better of first testing it in a simulator right? 13.04.41 # RyoS: depends on what you changed, really 13.05.15 # I always just go to my target, straight away. But that is probably because I only touch apps coad. 13.05.34 # n1s: i am adding some patches from flyspray that are intresting for me 13.05.34 # the sim only simulates the apps/ code 13.05.37 # Well, changing firmware code can't really be tested in the sim. 13.06.07 # I thought it simulated everything. 13.06.30 # It's a simulator, not an emulator. 13.06.35 # No hardware emulation is done. 13.06.59 # I always mix up the 2. 13.07.07 # If we had emulators, you wouldn't need to pick a different compile target. You'd compile the emulator once, then make a normal build each time and just copy it to the emulator. 13.07.11 # haha ok i get it 13.07.26 # so what if i do something wrong? 13.07.31 # So that's how you remember the difference. 13.07.34 # will i be able to brick my iaudio? :P 13.07.46 Part JazzBone 13.07.56 # RyoS: As long as you don't change/replace the bootloader, no. 13.08.04 # perfect 13.08.13 # i am not planing to change the bootloader i am happy with it :P 13.08.44 # iirc iaudio x5/m5 can even recover from a bad bl 13.08.56 # Probably 13.09.24 # But the bootloaders on them are flashed, so it may also be possible to brick it by way of a bootloader if you get clever. I don't know enough to say for sure. :) 13.09.41 # No, that is the e200/c200. 13.09.55 # No, the e200/c200 bootloaders are not flashed. 13.10.09 # They're stored in the flash memory, a part of the "disk" as it were. 13.10.19 # No, I mean they can recover from bad bls. 13.10.30 # Almost all of the Rockbox players can. 13.10.47 Join Zom_ [0] (n=zom@h-182-168.A166.cust.bahnhof.se) 13.10.52 # How do you recover from a bad bl on the ipods? 13.10.55 # is there a way to make sansa e200 like the beining ? 13.11.18 # LinuxMafia: Just follow the uninstall instructions in the manual 13.11.27 # countrymonkey: There's a Manual Restore page in the wiki for them 13.12.19 # Llorean, i can not mount the filesystem 13.12.24 # ok. I'm just scared. I like patches so much that one of these days I'll get carried away and patch the bootloader. hopefully that won't happen. 13.13.00 # LinuxMafia: Boot into Recovery mode, and copy over an original firmware MI4 file 13.14.03 # Llorean, yeah i did that , but now it says no space 13.14.24 # Llorean, and music folders everything is empty 13.14.47 # "says no space" <- What says no space, and what exactly does it say? 13.14.58 # If you can boot into the original firmware, use the reformat option. 13.15.23 # Llorean, it is in options? 13.15.38 # Llorean, i can get to original firmware 13.16.04 # It's somewhere in the options of the original firmware. 13.16.13 # Llorean, thanks so much 13.19.26 Quit Zom (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 13.19.34 Nick Zom_ is now known as Zom (n=zom@h-182-168.A166.cust.bahnhof.se) 13.20.54 Join jharu [0] (n=jayharu@212.118.123.20) 13.23.53 Quit MethoS- (Remote closed the connection) 13.25.05 Join mirak [0] (n=mirak@m94.net81-66-75.noos.fr) 13.25.18 # hey there everyone!! im a new owner of a sansa e260 mp(3 or 4) and i just wanna ask bagder (so many people call him badger...) on any news on stability of rbx in the sansa v1 models in terms of audio, picts and video. ive read the manual and the devt forums but it left me in a daze so can you help? 13.26.22 # Did you have any specific question? 13.26.25 # also kudos on the sansa devt team 13.27.43 # works fine on my e280 13.28.09 # errm what audio files does it support. also in video and does it play mpeg files at the stated 30 fps? and also can it change pic orientation? 13.28.35 # there's a list somewhere. Most notably mp3, ogg & flac. 13.28.41 # and sids too :o 13.29.04 # whats a sids? 13.29.24 # I've got HVSC Top 100 on my player =) Commandore-64 music files 13.29.26 # jharu: It supports all the audio files Rockbox supports, though Ape doesn't play at full speed. 13.29.38 # jharu: It plays video at or faster than the speeds listed on the PluginMpegplayer page. 13.29.55 # Llorean, did u mean ResetAll ? i can not find reformat 13.29.55 # And I don't know what you mean by "change pic orientation", rockbox still displays in a portrait orientation. 13.30.12 # LinuxMafia: Perhaps the e200s don't have it. Are you using the newest e200 firmware? 13.30.46 # Llorean, i am not sure 13.30.48 # then how do i limit fps? also what i mean is can i rotate a ie jpeg file in landscape view? 13.31.07 # jharu: Please, read the documentation. There's a "limit fps" option... 13.31.16 # Llorean, have to install it? 13.32.22 # LinuxMafia: I don't know. As I said, perhaps the e200s don't have it. As you don't have Rockbox installed, why not simply contact Sandisk support? 13.33.24 # Llorean, the problem is this is my friend's ,and i dont have the device with me , my device works perect , i also have e200 13.33.36 # perfect* 13.34.14 # Then tell your friend to contact Sandisk... 13.34.20 # errrr again how stable is rbx since im afraid to brick my sansa. also using fw 1.??.18a i think. does it create conflicts with the rbx 13.34.57 # jharu: It's about a 9.2 on the stability scale. I mean, in all seriousness, what are you asking? 13.35.07 # jharu: if you follow the instructions the risk or bricking is basically 0 13.35.11 # "Will it damage my device?" "Can it damage my device?" "If I do something stupid myself, can I damage my device?" 13.35.57 # jharu, plus it is hard to brick the e200 too 13.36.37 # firmware conflicts using the abovementioned update (1.??.18a cant remember the complete code) 13.36.50 # I don't have one, but I thought those things were easybrick targets. 13.37.01 # Llorean, there is a .fmt file i think meant to format 13.37.20 # LinuxMafia: I've given you what advice I can. 13.37.33 # countrymonkey: No. They're VERY hard to brick. 13.37.46 # Llorean, thanks so much 13.37.52 Join Febs [0] (n=chatzill@207-172-204-33.c3-0.rdl-ubr4.trpr-rdl.pa.cable.rcn.com) 13.37.56 # countrymonkey: Nobody's actually bricked one. They do allow the user a lot of freedom to ignore our warnings, do something stupid, and require reinstallation of the original firmware. 13.38.30 Join fasmaie [0] (n=yohann@c-24-60-113-125.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) 13.38.45 # wow 13.40.52 Quit countrymonkey ("CGI:IRC") 13.41.00 # i know its hard to brick a sansa so i chose it over some well konown brand that rips you of your money. but then still what firmware does rockbox work best with? i heard from the abi forum that its 15a but i wanna make sure before i do any downgrading 13.41.31 # As long as you can install Rockbox, it doesn't care what firmware you have installed 13.41.46 Join countrymonkey [0] (i=4b05639a@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-126a9e890f64f343) 13.41.52 # Rockbox runs completely independently, so the only time a firmware would be a problem is if it prevents Rockbox from installing by tinkering with the USB modes. 13.43.01 Join desowin [0] (n=desowin@atheme/developer/desowin) 13.45.12 # ermm i usually use msc since i dont sync. and also can rbx play pics and videos stored in microsd? and also do i still need to convert pics and vids to the standard res of my sansa coz i checked the pdf but it doesnt (or maybe i didnt saw it) say athing about changing resolutions 13.46.14 # Llorean, n1s: I'm almost finished with the changes necessary for the system options chapter. Unfortunately something's broken in the ondio manuals and I gotta leave. Don't know when I'll be able to commit it (hopefully soon). 13.46.36 # pixelma: nice :) 13.47.00 # jharu: Yes, it treats the microsd card as just another folder on the disk, so no special restrictions apply to it really. You do not need to convert pics, but if you want them to fit the screen, you should. You will need to convert videos, because it's too slow to scale them and they need to be in a specific format. 13.47.35 # n1s: wanted to talk to you about the new options but as I said - no time 13.48.14 # pixelma: I'll probably be around more in a couple of days, one last exam before christams 13.48.39 Join weezerle [0] (n=weezerle@dslb-088-072-031-039.pools.arcor-ip.net) 13.48.48 # alright 13.49.27 # Llorean: if you find some time, could you look at your todo list again (re. description of the c200)? ;) 13.49.31 Join Siku [0] (i=Siku@e81-197-68-206.elisa-laajakaista.fi) 13.49.51 # what format would you recommend best for vid? also if my pic isviewed as landscape that means i should rotate it first before putting it on my player? or does rbx handles it automatically? 13.49.59 # pixelma: It's still on the list, don't worry. I actually have a todo text document. :) 13.50.13 # jharu: Exactly what is necessary is explained on the PluginMpegplayer page, which I've already referenced you to once. 13.50.29 # :) ...bye! 13.50.29 # As for rotation of jpegs, I think you'll have to do it manually 13.50.37 # I've never tested. 13.51.13 # you can't do it on the player yet (although the wish is sometimes expressed here to implement it) 13.51.22 Part pixelma 13.52.14 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 13.55.27 Join Mathiasdm [0] (n=Mathias@d54C597B6.access.telenet.be) 14.01.56 Quit weezerle ("...und tschüss!") 14.05.27 Join MethoS- [0] (n=clemens@pD955CEBC.dip.t-dialin.net) 14.17.21 Join obo [0] (n=obo@rockbox/developer/obo) 14.19.30 # looking at the themes i saw a vklix theme with a "kugel build" which means what exactly? 14.20.04 # "Builds" are customized versions of Rockbox other people make. We don't offer support for those, as they're not all our code. 14.21.01 # so that may brick my unit in any case? 14.21.36 # Probably not. 14.21.56 # As I said earlier, nobody's actually _bricked_ an e200 yet anyway 14.24.09 # is it true the mpeg player of official build lacks seeking and resume play? 14.25.06 # looked at it in abi forum 14.25.24 # There's no seeking in any mpegplayer version. 14.25.33 # But the official one lets you pick a start time, and features resume. 14.25.52 # This TOO is on the PluginMpegplayer page... 14.31.41 # I have a little request : is it possible to have support for ipod scroll acceleration in brickmania ? 14.33.05 # The rate at which the paddle moves is part of the gameplay mechanic. Making the paddle move faster would break the game. 14.33.20 # But, either way, feature requests belong in the feature request tracker. 14.33.52 Join madspin [0] (n=madspin@host86-133-239-239.range86-133.btcentralplus.com) 14.34.52 # ok i asked because it is in apple firmware 14.35.03 Nick BilleniumZzZ is now known as Billenium (n=billeniu@c-69-249-243-110.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) 14.36.25 # so that means it may not work with the offical build, the themes i mean 14.36.38 # Yes 14.36.55 # It means it almost certainly won't work with the official one. 14.37.59 # * madspin wonders how hard it would be to write a "white noise" plugin for rockbox... 14.38.16 # Why? 14.38.29 # Llorean: sound masking - noisy neighbours ;) 14.39.03 # would save downloading a 8 hours FLAC or WAV file to the device ;) 14.39.04 # Why not just generate some white noise with a tool, and play that file then? 14.39.16 # Why do you need 8 hours? Couldn't you do 10 minutes and loop? 14.39.34 # Llorean: if you loop, you hear the looping apparantly 14.39.58 # You've tested this? 14.40.02 # On a Rockbox player? 14.40.38 # Hmmmm. I would have to say not yet - I think perhaps this applies to CDs more... :| 14.40.39 # * n1s added a whitenoise generator to preglow's signal_gen plugin a while ago... 14.40.45 # not hard at all 14.41.13 # I wouldn't expect a CD player to gaplessly repeat past the end of the disk. 14.41.39 # ok n1s, is signal_gen available for rockbox? 14.42.19 # no he hasn't released it yet but I guess i can give you the code and you can build your own 14.42.30 # and there was that attractive theme built for kugel... errr is it safe to use the unofficial ones? and can i put personal themes on the official ones 14.42.47 # thanks n1s, that would be great! I just need to install a cross compiler .. 14.44.39 # Llorean: It is still possible to tell that it is looping apparantly, it is a quality of white noise.. 14.45.25 # madspin: I would think that white noise played gaplessly should be very hard to notice looping. But that would've been my guess. 14.45.31 Join faemir [0] (n=daniel@85-211-25-197.dyn.gotadsl.co.uk) 14.45.34 # And crossfading would probably make it harder. 14.45.41 Quit lee-qid (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 14.45.42 # madspin: http://home.student.uu.se/niwa5341/signal_gen.c you'll probably need to do some changes to let it go for longer than 120 seconds 14.45.54 # Llorean: yeah I would be my guess too... 14.47.33 # What target does it compile for/where is the docs/what changes need to be made to signal_gen? 14.48.20 Join lee-qid [0] (n=liqid@p54966A56.dip.t-dialin.net) 14.48.44 # again is it possible to create personalized themes for the official rockbox 14.48.56 # yes it is 14.50.11 # whew, satisfied and sated. im now a rockbox convert! 14.51.00 # What target do you have? 14.52.42 # errrr i dont know what that means........ but i go for asian anime probably naruto theme 14.52.59 Quit fasmaie (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 14.53.50 # Target is rockbox lingo for type of mp3 player 14.54.03 Join Nico_P [0] (n=nicolas@rockbox/developer/NicoP) 14.54.25 # its sansa e200 (e260v1) 14.55.31 # Just out of curiosity. 14.55.38 # cool 14.56.14 Join Bonusbartus [0] (i=52abfb39@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-fc6adf1e9e61101c) 14.56.24 Quit Bonusbartus (Client Quit) 14.56.34 # im lookin and gettin confused at creating wps files. i do know c/c++ but it was ages ago since i used the lingo. and thanks monkey, what helped me decide to buy this is abi and rockbox 14.57.01 # what's abi? 14.57.20 # jharu: You don't need any C/C++ for WPS design 14.57.25 # And wps is not c or c++ at all. 14.57.25 # See the CustomWPS wiki page. 14.58.42 # anything but ipod = abi. thanks checkin the wiki rigth now 14.59.36 Join hannesd [0] (n=light@gate-hannes-tdsl.imos.net) 15.03.45 Join JazzBone [0] (n=jazzbone@cc829402-a.groni1.gr.home.nl) 15.05.31 # cant find the how to make yer own theme wiki.... help... 15.05.37 Quit mf0102 ("Verlassend") 15.05.49 # Domonoky: I still can't compile rbutil, but not fo the same reaosn as before 15.06.07 # jharu: I told you, it's on the page named CustomWPS 15.06.07 Quit countrymonkey ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 15.06.23 # You can type that in the go to box. 15.06.58 Join MethoS-- [0] (n=clemens@pD955C846.dip.t-dialin.net) 15.10.40 Join Thundercloud [0] (n=thunderc@84-51-130-71.judith186.adsl.metronet.co.uk) 15.11.01 Part JazzBone 15.11.39 Join JazzBone [0] (n=jazzbone@cc829402-a.groni1.gr.home.nl) 15.12.20 # is it possible to recreate that circling gui on the orig. firmware with a better transition? i kinda like its style. 15.13.14 Join countrymonkey [0] (i=4b05639a@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-aea89d9ff6b61924) 15.15.31 # is it possible to recreate that circling gui on the orig. firmware on rockbox with a better transition? or are we stuck with the scroll type gui? 15.15.38 Join jgarvey [0] (n=jgarvey@cpe-024-163-032-204.nc.res.rr.com) 15.16.45 # anything is possible 15.16.54 # just write the code 15.17.41 Join japc [0] (n=japc@bl8-4-69.dsl.telepac.pt) 15.18.52 # What is holding up 8219? 15.19.48 Join Moobeys [0] (i=cb31f6c3@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-8ca4d2dd4b56a189) 15.19.49 # countrymonkey: The fact that everybody's volunteers, and people don't have much time to look at patches anyway. 15.19.55 # hai everybody 15.20.07 # do we have the sample code for that? i was reading the dev thread but its too long to search the code for the gui. anybody can give me the raw and ill give it a crack using the sim/emu. 15.20.38 # I have a problem. I cannot find Rockbox for Toshiba gigabeat F series 15.20.44 # jharu: What sample code? You'd have to come up with your own algorithm... 15.20.53 # Moobeys: It's right there on the current build page... 15.21.11 # Ok i will check againg. thankyou 15.21.38 # also will it work using borland c? or do i have to use linux (i dont know linux) 15.22.18 # You need to use gcc and a linux-like environment (cygwin will do) 15.22.21 # I see it now thankyou Llorean 15.22.44 # When i heard about this a almost crapped my pants 15.22.57 # gcc? ill look for cygwin here.... 15.23.04 # i had the screen on my gigabeat cracked for a couple years now 15.23.05 Join advcomp2019_ [0] (n=advcomp2@unaffiliated/advcomp2019) 15.23.16 # im gonna go get it fixed now just so i can use rockbox on it :P 15.23.19 Quit advcomp2019 (Nick collision from services.) 15.23.25 Nick advcomp2019_ is now known as advcomp2019 (n=advcomp2@unaffiliated/advcomp2019) 15.23.26 Nick fxb is now known as fxb__ (n=felixbru@h1252615.stratoserver.net) 15.23.36 Quit MethoS- (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 15.23.44 Join Arathis [0] (n=doerk@p508A646B.dip.t-dialin.net) 15.23.58 # DOn't get it fixed. You can use voice 15.24.40 # Voice? 15.25.04 # videos is the main reason why i want to get it fixed and install rockbox :) 15.25.18 # so i donthink voice will help too much in that area 15.26.23 # ever since i got my gigabeat a couple years ago i was wondering if there was a program out there that could allow it to play vids and all that 15.26.30 # Woo viva la rockbox!! 15.26.53 # thanks guys cya! 15.27.04 Quit Moobeys ("CGI:IRC") 15.27.05 # anybody know how to use cygwin? as i said im a noob at linux... any links for tutorials? 15.28.10 # There's a page in the wiki called SimpleGuideToCompiling 15.28.14 # It seems to help a lot of folks 15.29.57 # including myself 15.30.20 Part JazzBone 15.31.07 Quit preglow (clarke.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 15.31.07 NSplit clarke.freenode.net irc.freenode.net 15.31.30 NHeal clarke.freenode.net irc.freenode.net 15.31.30 NJoin preglow [50] (n=thomj@rockbox/developer/preglow) 15.31.33 Quit markun (clarke.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 15.31.33 Quit RyoS (clarke.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 15.31.33 Quit lee-qid (clarke.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 15.31.33 Quit Mathiasdm (clarke.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 15.31.33 Quit Seed (clarke.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 15.31.33 Quit Billenium (clarke.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 15.31.33 Quit Topy44 (clarke.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 15.31.33 Quit maraz_ (clarke.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 15.31.33 Quit guyzmo (clarke.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 15.31.33 Quit sslashes_ (clarke.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 15.32.02 NJoin lee-qid [0] (n=liqid@p54966A56.dip.t-dialin.net) 15.32.02 NJoin Mathiasdm [0] (n=Mathias@d54C597B6.access.telenet.be) 15.32.02 NJoin Seed [0] (i=ben@bzq-84-108-237-178.cablep.bezeqint.net) 15.32.02 NJoin Billenium [0] (n=billeniu@c-69-249-243-110.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) 15.32.02 NJoin Topy44 [0] (i=Topy44@92.227.133.241) 15.32.02 NJoin maraz_ [0] (i=maraz@lakka.kapsi.fi) 15.32.02 NJoin RyoS [0] (n=ryo@cache.0bit.org) 15.32.02 NJoin markun [0] (n=markun@rockbox/developer/markun) 15.32.02 NJoin sslashes_ [0] (i=sslashes@209.67.252.122) 15.32.02 NJoin guyzmo [0] (n=guyzmo@nenya.mithrandir.net) 15.32.26 # and gcc is? (sorry totally win dependent guy...) 15.33.45 # The compiler we use. Specifically we use variants of it to compile code for the processors in the devices 15.35.04 Join lazka [0] (n=lazka@84.119.26.72) 15.35.05 # googling gcc.... 15.40.14 Join ompaul [0] (n=ompaul@gnewsense/friend/ompaul) 15.42.21 # where is the dload section? kept bumpin to mirrors still no dl here button.... 15.42.58 # What mirrors? Rockbox doesn't have mirrors. 15.43.35 # no i mean in the gcc page. cant seem to dl the software. 15.43.51 # Did you read the SimpleGuideToCompiling page? 15.43.52 Quit Billenium ("Ex-Chat") 15.43.56 # It includes instructions for getting the tools 15.44.46 # cant find it. tried using go to but yielded nada... 15.45.16 # Did you type it EXACTLY as I did? 15.45.20 # Including upper and lower case letters? 15.46.02 # mirc uses autocopy and i think it doesnt change the spelling ryt? 15.46.52 Join DefineByte_ [0] (n=defineby@bb-87-81-195-5.ukonline.co.uk) 15.46.59 # All I know is I just typed it into the GoTo box myself without problems. 15.47.28 # mine doest seem to work... ill try again. 15.47.48 # And "Ryt" isn't a word. Is it really too hard to type two more letters? You should get in the habit of using real words around here, because some of our channel regulars aren't native English speakers, and it's harder to "guess the similar word" if you don't speak English natively. 15.49.26 # errr sorry bad habit... 15.51.24 # What is ryt? I am a native english speaker but I don't understand it still since I am new to irc. 15.52.02 # right, I guess 15.52.07 # It's not an abbreviation. He just meant "right" as far as I can tell. 15.52.18 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 15.53.44 # correct me if im wrong but is gcc a linux based program? the site just shows pages (assuming) that i have to compile? and yes ryt means rigth using "write what you hear" lingo. 15.54.36 # I told you, simply use the "SimpleGuideToCompiling" page. 15.54.46 # gcc has versions on pretty much any operating system. 15.54.48 Join hannesd_ [0] (n=light@gate-hannes-tdsl.imos.net) 15.55.20 # But you need to set up specialized cross-compiler versions of gcc. Which is why you really need to follow directions specific to Rockbox. 15.56.44 # now im really lost... reading the gude still... 15.57.40 # how about the vm one? is it user friendly enough to learn? 15.57.51 # yes 15.58.10 Quit hannesd (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 15.58.11 Nick hannesd_ is now known as hannesd (n=light@gate-hannes-tdsl.imos.net) 15.59.40 Quit DefineByte_ ("Ex-Chat") 15.59.58 Join DefineByte [0] (n=defineby@bb-87-81-195-5.ukonline.co.uk) 16.01.30 # ok this will be a hell of a vacation if i made this work! thanks guys 16.02.39 # heck! what large files at veeeerrryyy slow tranfer rates.... 16.03.17 Join DerPapst [0] (n=DerPapst@p5B23E3D9.dip.t-dialin.net) 16.03.35 # oogabooga at all 16.04.57 Join billenium [0] (n=billeniu@c-69-249-243-110.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) 16.05.24 # oogabooga! 16.09.03 # :-) 16.10.13 Quit lazka (Remote closed the connection) 16.11.20 Quit DefineByte ("Ex-Chat") 16.12.21 # What was that all about? 16.13.52 Quit n1s () 16.14.02 Join bluebrother [0] (n=Dom@16.106.113.82.net.de.o2.com) 16.14.41 Nick billenium is now known as Billenium1 (n=billeniu@c-69-249-243-110.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) 16.14.54 Join DefineByte [0] (n=defineby@bb-87-81-195-5.ukonline.co.uk) 16.14.55 # hey bluebrother :-) 16.15.02 # hey :) 16.15.22 # its the secret handshake of the rockbox clan i pressume (oogabooga???) 16.15.25 Nick Billenium1 is now known as Billenium (n=billeniu@c-69-249-243-110.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) 16.15.31 # yup 16.16.03 # * bluebrother prepares a commit 16.16.22 # btw, viewvc is currently broken ... (but I guess this is already known) 16.16.34 Quit MethoS-- (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 16.16.37 # it is, yes 16.16.43 Join MethoS-- [0] (n=clemens@pD955FD3A.dip.t-dialin.net) 16.16.49 # I'm handing that problem to Zagor 16.16.52 # viewvc? 16.17.16 Quit ompaul (Client Quit) 16.17.16 # the repository browser thingy 16.17.36 # Bagder: could you add me to the logbot list? 16.18.58 # still confused. 16.19.27 # about viewvc? 16.19.29 # jharu, i believe it's the web frontend to SVN. 16.19.30 # If I took a look at 8219, could it be committed once I said it was through? 16.20.37 # Bagder: thanks :) 16.20.41 # the signs of a noob is showing upon me... 16.21.01 # viewvc is a web frontend to cvs and svn 16.21.18 # jharu: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ViewVC 16.21.28 # the thing opn the front page below the headline Subversion 16.21.38 # if you click on a link there you get an error 16.21.54 # *on 16.22.16 Quit Jon-Kha (Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer)) 16.22.33 Join Jon-Kha [0] (i=jon-kha@80-248-247-190.cust.suomicom.fi) 16.23.01 # 8219 is a lang update. Shouldn't it be committed straight away? 16.23.36 # countrymonkey, of course not. what if strings are improperly translated? 16.25.51 # So we need a chinese person to go through the whole patch? 16.27.47 # And rasher, your last update column in the language translation tool in your website is broken. 16.27.53 # And rasher, your last update column in the language translation tool in your website is broken. 16.28.10 Join OlivierBorowski [0] (n=OlivierB@80.185.254.209) 16.28.31 Quit OlivierBorowski (Remote closed the connection) 16.28.58 Join einhirn [0] (n=Miranda@p5B033AD4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 16.33.17 # Anyone willing to at fs#8313 and fs#8323 16.33.21 # oops 16.33.22 # * bluebrother wonders if copying the sapi vbs script makes sense for non-wndows builds at all 16.33.27 # anyone willing to look at/ 16.33.44 Quit animeloe ("Leaving") 16.34.12 # bluebrother: if you find a way to conditionally include it into the resource file.. 16.34.49 # hmpf. 16.35.22 # now something is messed up with that copy stuff :( 16.35.33 Join gromit`` [0] (i=gromit@ras75-5-82-234-244-69.fbx.proxad.net) 16.36.49 # bluebrother: its just a copy command in the pro file.. 16.37.08 # Domonoky: I'll check if I find something ... but I should go now 16.37.12 # * Domonoky is working on voicefile generation.. in rbutil :-) 16.37.17 # hope my commit didn't broke anything :) 16.37.42 # it's really annoying not having a proper internet connection. 16.37.47 # bye 16.37.51 # bye 16.37.55 Quit bluebrother ("back another day") 16.37.56 Join sindref [0] (i=50ca51a5@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-fb143c2b90b13572) 16.39.20 Join animeloe [0] (n=animeloe@unaffiliated/animeloe) 16.42.19 Quit gromit` (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 16.44.16 # And rasher, your last update column in the language translation tool in your website is broken.I don't think I am doing it right. What are the steps to build a manual? 16.45.02 Quit Nico_P (Remote closed the connection) 16.45.14 # to build the manual? configure, pick your target, choose "manual" 16.45.39 # I have done that. I want an html manual. What is the make command? 16.47.55 # I'm going to quit and reboot but please post the answer and I'l tcheck thelogs 16.49.07 Quit DefineByte ("Bye all") 16.49.10 # countrymonkey, read the wiki: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/ManualHowto 16.50.35 Quit countrymonkey ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 16.51.46 # is it possible to create moving icons? as in using gif files or anything the like? 16.52.39 # my cuz is a graphic artist so i can ask him to create that kinda stuff but will it work? 16.52.53 # cuz=cousin 16.53.13 # no. 16.53.18 # jharu: someone would need to add support for it in rockbox 16.53.26 Join DefineByte [0] (n=defineby@bb-87-81-195-5.ukonline.co.uk) 16.53.31 # animated gifs can'T be used as icons 16.54.00 # take a look ar the icons on your dap or rockbox.org to see how they look like 16.54.45 Quit woodensoul () 16.54.56 # is there any alternatives? like a looping icon? im looking and it says .ico 16.55.05 Join Nico_P [50] (n=nicolas@rockbox/developer/NicoP) 16.55.17 Nick fxb__ is now known as fxb (n=felixbru@h1252615.stratoserver.net) 16.55.18 # jharu: you need to program in C to add support for it 16.55.46 # well animated icos don't work at all in rockbox yet until someone adds support for them 16.58.12 # why not incorporate the gui in of and revise it in rbx? 16.58.29 # jharu: what do you mean? 16.59.07 # please... spell out your words.. it's just annoying 16.59.34 Join countrymonkey [0] (i=4b05639a@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-de0c079754467943) 16.59.38 Quit DefineByte ("Bye all") 17.00.03 # the circling interface used in e200. can we use it as default for the rockbox interface? 17.00.15 # nope 17.00.37 # unless you rewrite 40% of rockbox no indeed 17.00.47 Join merbanan [0] (n=banan@83.233.243.166) 17.01.17 # jharu: what are the strong points for the e200 gui? 17.01.27 Join DefineByte [0] (n=defineby@bb-87-81-195-5.ukonline.co.uk) 17.01.27 # for -> of 17.03.49 # the navigation is nice and is certainly viewable for those who like me wear glasses 17.03.58 Join DM| [0] (n=dm@cpe-65-24-167-246.columbus.res.rr.com) 17.04.48 # i have glasses too and i like the rockbox menu... even with a smaller font :-P 17.05.15 # I cannot get the manual to build. even following the dirrections 17.05.48 # are you using cygwin? 17.05.59 # yes 17.07.59 # have you installed unicode support for LaTeX? 17.08.14 # jharu, sounds like you just need to use a larger font. 17.08.54 # I just clicked on the default packages for both base and mirror download. I don't know what you mean by unicode for latex. 17.09.10 # http://www.unruh.de/DniQ/latex/unicode/ 17.09.24 # instructions: http://www.unruh.de/DniQ/latex/unicode/ucs/INSTALL 17.09.57 # do I install that? Because all that happens is a copy of the manual dir gets copied to my build dir. 17.10.05 # i would like it to be more uhhhh graphically pleasing i guess 17.10.28 # is there a maximum size for icons? if not one could use insanely large icons either :-P 17.10.37 # you need that to be able to build the manual 17.11.13 # I am not tech-savi enough to understand the instructions. Could you please paraphrase this for me? 17.12.16 # ah well its my first time so im full of foolish ideas. still trying to figure out the linux emulator (vmware) hope i can implement what i just said 17.13.37 # it would really make rockbox cool in my opinion if it has a interesting gui 17.14.16 # I'm not sure exactly where the files need to go. It's been a while since I used cygwin. Let me look into it. 17.14.17 # if you can't figure out the vmware try cygwin. it's pretty straigt forward either :-) 17.14.29 # jharu: the priority is to have an efficient GUI... interesting comes after that. Of course if you make a GUI that is both, we'll be all ears 17.14.36 Quit Lear ("ChatZilla 0.9.79 [Firefox 3.0b3pre/2007121405]") 17.15.48 # but i dont know the dload for cygwin. it has too much mirrors and i dont know exactly what files to load 17.15.53 # jharu: also, changing the whole GUI is going to be a lot of work... if you're a beginner it might be a good idea to start by getting familiar with C 17.16.40 # im familiar with c but on a borland platform 17.16.53 # jharu: select any mirror near you and download the entire dev package.. then you're pretty much on a good way 17.17.26 # * DerPapst never used borland for anything else then turbo pascal :-D 17.18.09 # jharu: I would recommend the VM 17.18.28 # well pascal is phased out here though... 17.19.43 # no way.. i'm porting rockbox to pascal 17.19.58 # jk :P 17.20.00 # im dloading vm but its taking too long to download. its already at 51 % and i've yet to dl the other huge file it requires... 17.20.14 # countrymonkey: I think you need to put the files mentioned in the instructions into /texmf/tex/latex/ 17.20.44 # I think the maximum height for icons is 32 17.20.51 # pascal rockbox?! 17.23.19 # I am working on a windows box and cannot find those dirrectories. 17.24.02 # try /usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/unicode/ 17.24.54 # DerPapst, nah, rewrite rockbox in perl! 17.25.17 # I cannot find the unicode dirrectory. 17.26.02 # write rb in basic! that settles it 17.26.06 # just put them in latex then 17.26.08 Join christos [0] (i=c3a7582f@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-90ee3afd230b2511) 17.26.12 # i don't think it matters 17.26.17 # help 17.26.19 # thanks. Let's try it 17.26.41 # i want to ask if it can be greek support for the virtual keyboard 17.26.46 # when i seek in database 17.28.36 # anybody knows? 17.28.50 Quit christos (Client Quit) 17.28.51 # christos, please be patient in waiting for an answer 17.29.05 # lol 17.29.07 # I was just about to give him one too. 17.29.07 # Sigh 17.29.19 # I had to dig up the name of the wiki page for custom keyboards 17.29.58 # it would be good if the chatbot could be configured to send a user a message the next time they joined. 17.29.59 # well christos seems a bit busy. lol 17.30.52 # that may mean logging and adding in asort of list 17.31.09 # jharu, this channel IS logged. 17.31.16 Quit mirak (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 17.31.29 # They say put the data/* in your latex dir. Does that mean the dir or the contents? 17.31.52 # try the contents I guess 17.31.55 # x) 17.32.13 # kinda like yahoo messenger. and i mean logging to the user not the irc 17.32.24 Part RichiH 17.34.24 Quit mokkurkalve ("leaving") 17.35.21 # no difference 17.35.28 # did you run mktexlsr? 17.36.06 # no. 17.36.08 # and probably 'make clean' to be safe 17.36.20 # in the build directory/ 17.36.42 # Do i just type that in? 17.36.59 # yeah 17.37.16 # it said no such file or dirrectory 17.37.47 # I guess not then x) 17.38.14 # so what do I do? 17.38.17 # try it from root? dunno 17.39.05 Join Agrajag__ [0] (n=Agrajag@c-68-84-64-192.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) 17.39.09 # going to a xmas party, will dbg this later 17.39.18 # okay, have fun 17.39.40 # Guys, any idea why, after booting the original firmware I suddenly can't get my iPod Photo to reboot the RB firmware? 17.39.41 # Thanks. I'll come back when i get home. 17.40.16 # if I'm not here try and track down pixelma 17.40.16 Quit countrymonkey ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 17.40.21 # ah well 17.42.05 Join rotator [0] (n=e@rockbox/developer/rotator) 17.43.37 Join tacoman [0] (i=46e791d2@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-96c0ad52a91a91bb) 17.44.13 # Guys, any idea why, after booting the original firmware I suddenly can't get my iPod Photo to reboot the RB firmware? 17.44.19 # hello 17.44.25 Quit tacoman (Client Quit) 17.44.25 # Howdy 17.45.02 # Agrajag__, have you read the manual, specifically the part about dual-booting? 17.45.24 # Yes. I've dual-booted several times. No problem. Suddenly yesterday it just stopped doing it. 17.45.36 # hm... just playing around with the mpegplayer... it says on x5 160x128 should go as high as 32fps... but i cant seem to get above 21fps 17.45.52 # The firmware never shows up to allow me to get back. It just INSTANTLY boots the original firmware each time now. 17.45.59 # neighter on elephants dream nor on my own encodes 17.46.29 # Agrajag__, i'm not familiar with iPods. have you tried reinstalling the bootloader? 17.46.35 # Topy44: and your build is up to date? 17.46.55 # That's the next step. Was hoping to avoid it and find out what caused this so I can avoid it in the future. Thanks. 17.47.02 # you didn't repair the Ipod with Itunes did you? 17.47.11 # DerPapst: He also needs to have frame limiting and frame skipping disabled 17.47.16 # Agrajag__: the bootloader shouldn't just vanish on iPods 17.47.21 # iTunes? What's that? hehehehe I don't even have that on my system. 17.47.37 # That's what has me concerned. The folder is there. Seems fine. 17.47.41 # just found out... youre right, with frame limiting and skipping disabled, i get 21fps 17.48.01 # I just installed Media Monkey 3.0 release candidate 4 and sync'ed with it. 17.48.08 # but it skips more than necessary with frame skipping active 17.48.13 # Agrajag__: run ./ipodpather --list and check if the bootloader is still there 17.48.32 # Where do I find that? 17.48.43 # [17:47] just found out... youre right, with frame limiting and skipping disabled, i get 21fps <== i ment 31fps 17.48.45 # how did you install rockbox? 17.49.07 # Oh, ipodPATCHER (you said pather above) 17.49.19 # I did it manually initially. 17.49.23 # ah 17.49.26 # Has been working just fine for weeks 17.49.26 # sorry 17.49.40 # hehehe. I thought maybe there was a path checker I didn't know about. 17.50.11 # I'll go grab the iPod 17.51.02 # Oh, lastly, I JUST started using iPod playlist and read that RB doesn't understand iPod playlists. That I need to do some registry change to get RB to use M3U's instead of the iPod database to do this. Is that accurate? 17.51.12 # hm... with a smaller video (as in, not as cpu intensive) i get the expected 25fps with skipping active 17.51.44 # it seems that the skipping itself uses so much cpu power that it has to start skipping frames even though there would be enough power to display them all 17.51.45 # (or so) 17.52.19 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 17.53.47 # rocbox has it's own database format and understands m3u... if that answers your question 17.55.02 # Topy44: I've never experienced this. If a video can get 30fps with skipping off, and is recorded at 25fps, with skipping AND limiting on, it should play at 25fps. 17.55.04 # Listing firmware partition contents: 17.55.04 # 17.55.04 # Image 1: 17.55.04 DBUG Enqueued KICK Agrajag__ 17.55.04 # Main firmware - 5387776 bytes 17.55.04 # Third-party bootloader - 49276 bytes 17.55.05 *** Alert Mode level 1 17.55.05 # Image 2: 17.55.07 # AUPD - 1109716 bytes 17.55.13 # Agrajag__: Please do not paste into the channel 17.55.18 # Oops. Okay 17.55.34 # That's what ipodpatcher sees. Looks to me like it sees firmware. 17.55.37 # Agrajag__: plase use www.pastebn.ca next time... 17.55.39 # Llorean, i tried several times, if i activate skipping the framerate goes down to about 21 17.55.43 # i'll try around some more 17.55.45 # but no bootloader 17.56.10 # resintall the bootloaderwith ./ipodpatcher -i 17.56.17 # thx 17.56.24 # Wonder what blew it out? Very strange. 17.57.04 # no idea... normally it doesn't simply vanish without the user doing someting to make it go away. 17.57.26 # so... with skipping and limiting on it stabilises around 20-23, with skipping off i get 25.x 17.57.27 Quit phr__ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 17.57.44 # Well, at least now I have the answer. Thanks. Now time to figure out how to handle the playlist issue. Off to the forums. 17.58.00 # hello 17.58.43 Part Agrajag__ 17.58.43 # (160x128 mpeg2 at 300kbit with mp3 sound at 128kbit) 17.59.04 # about that 32 llorean is it 32 mm or 32 pixels? 17.59.10 Join mexicankiller [0] (i=chatzill@189.156.212.67) 17.59.11 # with a smaller video (90x60) that wont happen, the fps stays the same 17.59.14 # Topy44: 300kbit is far higher bitrate than you need for that screen, I'd say. 17.59.56 # Topy44: But if you only get 25 with them disabled, then it may be expected. That's an average, and it's probably falling below 25 quite often. 18.00.01 Join phr__ [0] (n=phr@adsl-75-62-4-229.dsl.snfc21.sbcglobal.net) 18.00.05 Join bodhammer [0] (n=kvirc@c-68-35-78-212.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) 18.00.13 # jharu: What 32? 18.00.27 # the max icon size 18.00.31 # Pixels 18.00.46 # is this a good place for user questions or is it dev only? 18.00.47 # Llorean, i get 25 with limiting enabled and skipping disabled, and 21 with both enabled 18.01.07 # user questions are welcome. :) 18.01.09 # Topy44: And what SVN revision are you running? 18.01.21 # yesterdays, let me check the revision... 18.01.48 # 15930 18.02.08 # Ah well then, 's the best you'll get I guess. 18.02.12 # You'll just have to accept it 18.02.21 # well, guess so 18.02.33 # i'll try around with a 30fps videostream, lets see what the effect is 18.02.54 # I have a Sansa e250 with a 2GB MicroSD. My database seems to get corrupted. I'm using the daily builds from the last couple of weeks. I have forced updates as well as just deleted them but it keeps happening. Known bug? 18.03.01 Join spiorf [0] (n=spiorf@79.16.206.202) 18.03.03 # Bagder: looks like there's an error in the svn viewer (for example on http://svn.rockbox.org/viewvc.cgi/trunk/rbutil/rbutilqt/rbutilqt.qrc?r1=15932;r2=15933 ) "ImportError: libkeyutils.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory" 18.03.23 # Topy44: You can probably do about 180-220kbps by the way, for your screen size 18.03.28 # what happens with your sansa? 18.03.32 # I may help 18.03.54 # bodhammer: Corrupted in what way? 18.04.08 # I guess he is having the problems 18.04.12 # of the cache 18.04.20 # worst was a total lockup on boot, had to delete the database files to get it to even boot 18.04.23 # I mean when the database is cached 18.04.32 Part moos ("Rockbox rules the DAP world") 18.04.40 # other times I can get to a song buit it will not start playing 18.04.51 # bodhammer I have to say that the sansa is a very problematic dap 18.04.53 Join Mathiasdm2 [0] (n=Mathias@vpnf155.ugent.be) 18.04.58 # bodhammer: What SVN revision? 18.05.06 *** Alert Mode OFF 18.05.07 # glad I only payed $29 for a refirb! ;-) 18.05.11 # mexicankiller: That's a rather striking generalization. I have two sansas, and no troubles with either. 18.05.21 # oh sorry 18.05.58 # bodhammer: Are you using a current, official build? And if so, what format is your music? 18.06.14 Join Mathias [0] (n=Mathias@d54C597B6.access.telenet.be) 18.06.14 # right now r15930-071214 18.06.17 # Llorean do you know where I can get the memory modules for the sansa?,I don't mean micro sd cards 18.06.26 # all music is MP3 18.06.45 # mexicankiller: No, this channel is about Rockbox, which primarily means *software* development. Look for identifying marks on the chips, and google. 18.06.57 # oh ok 18.07.09 # bodhammer: Try disabling auto-update and only using manual updates. I've heard some people have found auto-update to be problematic recently 18.07.41 # Llorean: ok, thx 18.07.47 # Llorean automatic update has been problematic since the make of the micro sd patch 18.08.19 # because you have to unify both databases,do it gets mad when updating 18.08.31 # *so 18.08.49 # If I use the Sansa firmware, it there anyway to prevent "refreshing database" on every boot? 18.09.00 # you can't prevent it 18.09.07 # so lame... 18.09.45 # the firmware has to update the changes,so therefore you can't evitate 18.09.53 # mexicankiller, wrong, actually 18.09.55 # what changes? 18.10.05 # oh ok 18.10.09 # I'm wrong 18.10.15 # may you correct me 18.10.31 # bodhammer, if you turn on the sansa by simply plugging in the USB cable, recent bootloaders should prevent it from updating the database. 18.10.56 # krazykit: rockbox or sansa? 18.10.56 # however, if you intend to USE the OF for playing music, then you cannot prevent it from rebuilding the database. 18.10.58 # oh my lord,I didn't knew that 18.11.47 # bodhammer, the sansa. this is a feature of the rockbox bootloader 18.12.08 # I use Rockbox because of the no rebuild and fast boot. Really impressive if I can keep it running... 18.12.17 # ok 18.12.30 # well rockbox has been impresive for ages 18.12.37 # and still is 18.12.42 # if there's a microSD card, though, it will update the database no matter what. 18.13.04 # its something that you can't stop 18.13.16 # when you have an external memory 18.13.24 # Don't understand why they don't fix that... Stopped me from getting a View for Xmas 18.13.30 # mexicankiller, is there a reason you're paraphrasing me? 18.13.37 # ah? 18.13.38 Quit sindref ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 18.13.44 # para what? 18.13.54 # writing what i say differently. 18.14.07 # I'm really sorry 18.14.17 # I didn't knew 18.14.23 # that I was doing that 18.17.16 # about the rockbox for Ipod nano 1st gen 18.17.29 # I also don't see the load to ram database option in setting as per the manual, is that stll an option? 18.17.43 Quit ptw419 () 18.19.24 # I'm off 18.19.26 Quit mexicankiller ("ChatZilla 0.9.79 [Firefox 2.0.0.11/2007112718]") 18.19.38 Join mf0102 [0] (n=michi@85.127.20.164) 18.19.59 # well gotta go, ill check what i can do about the gui that is both functional and funky. hop i do it in a week or so..... 18.20.06 # ok... interesting result with a 30fps file... the frame skipper still cuts down framerate by about 2fps 18.20.15 # so its NOT a cpu load problem 18.20.43 # i get 28fps with a 30fps file with skipper, and full 30fps without 18.21.04 Join toffe82 [0] (n=chatzill@adsl-71-132-81-241.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net) 18.21.05 Quit Mathiasdm (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 18.21.15 # Can you see the file playing slowly, or are you just going by the number? 18.21.24 Join Mathiasdm [0] (n=Mathias@d54C597B6.access.telenet.be) 18.21.34 Quit jharu () 18.22.54 Join mirak [0] (n=mirak@m94.net81-66-75.noos.fr) 18.23.10 # yes, i believe that i can see some stutter, but we're talking about 28 vs 30fps here... i really cant say if i'm imagining it :) 18.23.38 # with frame skipping on, it takes about 30 sec for the fps to stabilize, with skipping off its stable 30.1 almost instantly 18.24.07 Quit Mathiasdm2 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 18.24.30 # I just know the frameskipping doesn't cause a problem like this on any of the players I own. 18.25.10 Quit mirak (SendQ exceeded) 18.25.24 # well, the x5 is one of the lower cpu power targets 18.25.31 # No, it's not. 18.25.46 # no? well, i dont really know the tech data of all the machines :) 18.25.58 # It's just not one of the high CPU targets. 18.26.04 Join mirak [0] (n=mirak@m94.net81-66-75.noos.fr) 18.26.15 # But with its small screen size, and fast enough processor it shouldn't be a problem 18.26.41 # Not to mention if you have enough overhead to play 30fps, it doesn't make sense that frameskipping has the same penalty at both rates 18.26.41 Quit Bagder (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 18.26.53 # exactly, thats the weird thing 18.26.54 # jhMikeS might have an answer if/when he's around 18.27.06 # it may really just be a problem with the fps display 18.27.42 # I keep the FPS display turned off anyway. As long as the video's in sync with the audio, all is well. 18.28.01 Join Bagder [241] (n=daniel@rockbox/developer/bagder) 18.28.20 Quit Mathias (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 18.28.25 # But I've been doing some testing for new presets today and yesterday, and was actually watching the FPS display, and no such behaviour as you had. 18.28.36 # But I don't have an X5 or H300 18.29.57 # just doing one more test 18.32.08 Join PaulPosition [0] (n=noneofye@modemcable228.133-82-70.mc.videotron.ca) 18.32.56 Quit DM| ("*bashes head against keyboard*") 18.33.39 # Topy44 - You managed to get that vmware working? I dunno, but I have version 2.02 here and it works alright. But I started from the original image, not the expanded working copy (or whatever they'd call it)... 18.34.19 Quit DefineByte ("Bye all") 18.34.38 Join animeloe_ [0] (n=animeloe@unaffiliated/animeloe) 18.34.51 Join joris__ [0] (n=joris@217-19-28-124.dsl.cambrium.nl) 18.35.05 # yes, got it working - i just installed good old 1.something :) 18.35.14 # fed up with it 18.35.50 # Is this Rockbox related? 18.36.12 # Llorean, yes, i had problems getting the rockbox vmware image to run on a current vmware version 18.36.20 # while it runs fine on an old version 18.36.51 # Good, then. :) 18.37.30 # now thats interesting... if i make a 10fps file (just for a test) the frame skipper doesnt affect it 18.38.01 # it seems that it only happens if the cpu load is close to 100% (but noch quite) 18.39.18 # Topy44: realize that it's not all about raw FPS and just because you can average 30fps over the long term, frames may need skipping in order to maintain sync in the short term. 18.40.04 # Decoding is not a constant load operation 18.40.07 # I probably should've elaborated on that earlier. 18.40.51 # i did suspect something like that - that while 30fps can be decoded in a second, one of the frames may take longer than the allowed 1/30th of a second to get decoded 18.43.06 # Is there some information about how rockbox handles hard disks on the archos and is there any preferred hard disk when it comes to reads per minute? 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21.18.24 # i'd say nevaaaaar? 21.18.30 # no really, i dont understand your question 21.18.54 # graphys: that device is not supported and may never be 21.19.34 # scorche: i now but when using rockbox that device? 21.19.57 # graphys: as you asking when it will be supported? 21.20.40 # scorche: i am turkish and i don't speak beautiful english 21.22.38 # graphys, you can not use rockbox on a 2nd gen ipod nano. 21.22.59 Quit Mathiasdm (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 21.24.56 # krazykit: ok thanks 21.25.20 # krazykit: are we going to use rockbox on a 2nd gen ipod nano? 21.25.24 Join spizer [0] (n=qas32@e178176243.adsl.alicedsl.de) 21.25.57 # graphys, no, and it may never be usable on a 2nd gen ipod nano 21.26.32 Quit Mathiasdm2 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 21.28.47 # krazykit: which open source jukebox firmware use to on a 2nd gen ipod nano? 21.28.54 # graphys, there are none 21.29.09 # oh my god :( 21.29.16 # krazykit: thank you 21.29.30 Part alphanumeric 21.29.40 Join Frazz [0] (n=Fraser@thelawsons.plus.com) 21.29.54 # graphys, if you want rockbox, look on rockbox.org for the players that can use rockbox 21.30.22 # i have got a 2nd gen ipod nano :( 21.30.32 # sorry then :) 21.31.20 Quit bertrik (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 21.32.29 Quit phr__ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 21.33.25 Quit Topy44 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 21.34.11 Join phr__ [0] (n=phr@adsl-75-62-4-229.dsl.snfc21.sbcglobal.net) 21.34.48 Part graphys ("Konversation terminated!") 21.38.15 Quit homielowe (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 21.47.48 Join MethoS-- [0] (n=clemens@pD955CADA.dip.t-dialin.net) 21.49.47 Quit dan_a ("using sirc version 2.211+KSIRC/1.3.12") 21.51.58 # how much wood would a woodchuck chuck chuck if a woodchuck could chuck would and woodchucking was wifi compatible to allow a woodchuck to chuckwood if a woodchuck could chuck wood with wifi? 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