--- Log for 23.12.107 Server: clarke.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 10 days and 8 hours ago 00.01.55 Quit blithe ("leaving") 00.03.23 Quit ender (" Debian comes in three flavours: stale, rusting and broken.") 00.03.59 Quit nardul ("Leaving") 00.05.31 Join axionix [0] (n=axion@cpe-74-70-239-192.nycap.res.rr.com) 00.05.33 Quit roxfan (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00.10.43 # haha, sorry for the off-topicness but look at that: http://www.chinavasion.com/product_info.php/pName/cassette-mp3-player-stand-alone-or-car-cassette-player/ 00.11.11 # "Use like a normal cassette in a car cassette player or cassette player" 00.11.31 # If that let you record to it from any cassette recorder, I'd be in love 00.13.23 # wow, Llorean, it didn't took you long to take it a bit further... :) 00.13.48 # i don't see a patch to change the default wps 00.13.58 # anyone got an FS number? 00.14.32 # FS#6568 00.14.39 Quit davina (Remote closed the connection) 00.16.26 # would be cool if it was charged by the spinning gear 00.16.43 Quit Domonoky (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 00.23.20 Join blithe [0] (n=blithe@stiletto.djblithe.com) 00.27.28 Quit Xerion (" ") 00.39.32 Quit stewball`out (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 00.46.38 # I have it 00.51.24 Join Xerion [0] (n=xerion@cp198589-d.landg1.lb.home.nl) 00.55.13 Join animeloe_ [0] (n=animeloe@unaffiliated/animeloe) 00.59.52 Quit FOAD ("I'll be back") 01.00.12 Quit Robin0800 (" Try HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <-") 01.00.19 Join blueworm [0] (n=blueworm@7.Red-80-32-172.staticIP.rima-tde.net) 01.00.44 Part blueworm ("Leaving") 01.01.42 Quit faemir (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 01.02.39 Join FOAD [0] (n=dok@dinah.blub.net) 01.02.51 Quit Genre9mp3 () 01.07.48 Join midkay_ [0] (n=midkay@c-24-19-236-139.hsd1.mn.comcast.net) 01.07.58 Quit midkay (Nick collision from services.) 01.08.00 Nick midkay_ is now known as midkay (n=midkay@c-24-19-236-139.hsd1.mn.comcast.net) 01.08.49 Quit animeloe (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 01.10.41 Join FOAD_ [0] (n=dok@dinah.blub.net) 01.12.12 Quit saratoga ("CGI:IRC") 01.17.20 Join memic14415 [0] (n=425197c7@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-37162db6163637bc) 01.17.43 # helo 01.18.00 # can sum1 help me wit this? 01.18.02 # ConvertiTunesDBtoTagCache 01.19.39 Quit memic14415 (Client Quit) 01.22.43 # Patience... 01.26.19 Quit petur ("Zzzzz") 01.38.23 Quit FOAD ("Lost terminal") 01.38.23 Nick FOAD_ is now known as FOAD (n=dok@dinah.blub.net) 01.38.32 Join eigma [0] (n=cat@CPE0014bfcf5eee-CM014060200457.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) 01.43.36 Quit spiorf (Remote closed the connection) 01.45.45 Join animeloe__ [0] (n=animeloe@unaffiliated/animeloe) 01.45.59 Nick animeloe__ is now known as animeloe (n=animeloe@unaffiliated/animeloe) 01.47.16 Quit Xerion (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 01.47.31 Join Xerion [0] (i=xerion@cp198589-d.landg1.lb.home.nl) 01.56.05 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 02.02.13 Quit animeloe_ (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 02.12.40 Join aliask [0] (n=chatzill@c58-109-97-210.eburwd4.vic.optusnet.com.au) 02.18.07 Quit eigma (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 02.19.01 Join eigma [0] (n=cat@CPE0014bfcf5eee-CM014060200457.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) 02.20.46 Quit lee-qid (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 02.24.00 Join JdGordon [0] (n=jonno@usw3662-s-207-244-148-63.dsl.w-link.net) 02.26.18 Quit Thundercloud (Remote closed the connection) 02.26.35 Join pradin [0] (n=pradin@pool-71-183-247-4.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) 02.27.18 Quit Mouser_X ("Java user signed off") 02.33.19 Quit z35 (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 02.34.30 # any thoughts on http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/8353#comment20156 ? 02.36.21 Join z35 [0] (n=z@149.123.33.65.cfl.res.rr.com) 02.36.44 Nick fxb is now known as fxb__ (n=felixbru@h1252615.stratoserver.net) 02.37.17 # JdGordon: that looks good to me. There should also be an option (if there isn't already) to restore the default theme 02.40.04 # JdGordon: I think I'd prefer if the settings saved options were located... more locally 02.40.14 # Like, if I'm in the radio, "Save radio settings" would be there 02.40.18 # Rather than in a centralized menu 02.40.36 # But a centralized menu for "Theme" "Sound" and other more general settings could work 02.40.44 # It's just Radio and Recording that they seem like they should be local to me 02.41.48 # i agree 02.41.57 Join fasmaie [0] (n=yohann@c-24-60-113-125.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) 02.42.05 # I think haveing rec and radio in 2 places isnt a problem 02.42.16 # Probably not, true 02.47.22 Join Mouser_X [0] (n=mouser_x@207.155.176.3) 02.47.59 Quit spr0k3t () 02.49.15 Join roxfan [0] (n=dunno@220.6-200-80.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be) 02.53.06 Join spr0k3t [0] (n=spr0k3t@CPE-69-76-171-220.kc.res.rr.com) 02.59.15 Quit Jon-Kha (Remote closed the connection) 03.05.14 Quit fasmaie (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 03.05.49 Join BigBambi [0] (n=alex@rockbox/staff/BigBambi) 03.13.52 Quit hcs ("Leaving.") 03.14.43 Nick gnu47laptop is now known as Gnu47 (n=Gnu47@unaffiliated/gnu47laptop) 03.16.04 Nick Gnu47 is now known as Gnu47laptop (n=Gnu47@private.ntwk.thita.net) 03.22.39 Nick Gnu47laptop is now known as Gnu47 (n=Gnu47@unaffiliated/gnu47laptop) 03.27.09 Join psycho_maniac [0] (i=psycho_m@ppp451.hk.centurytel.net) 03.39.09 Quit pradin (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 03.41.39 Join hcs [0] (n=agashlin@rockbox/contributor/hcs) 03.44.04 Join advcomp2019_ [0] (n=advcomp2@unaffiliated/advcomp2019) 03.44.14 Quit advcomp2019 (Nick collision from services.) 03.44.20 Nick advcomp2019_ is now known as advcomp2019 (n=advcomp2@unaffiliated/advcomp2019) 03.45.18 Join aliask_ [0] (n=chatzill@c58-109-97-210.eburwd4.vic.optusnet.com.au) 03.46.09 Quit aliask (Nick collision from services.) 03.46.11 Nick aliask_ is now known as aliask (n=chatzill@c58-109-97-210.eburwd4.vic.optusnet.com.au) 03.56.09 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 03.57.42 Quit roxfan (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 04.00.36 Quit zicho (Remote closed the connection) 04.03.56 Join Langly [0] (i=Langly@c-24-21-39-47.hsd1.mn.comcast.net) 04.25.40 Join roxfan [0] (n=dunno@5.52-240-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be) 04.34.16 Quit eigma () 04.37.35 Quit miepchen^schlaf (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 04.37.58 Join miepchen^schlaf [0] (n=hihi@p54BF53BB.dip.t-dialin.net) 04.54.27 Quit Delvien ("*bashes head against keyboard*") 05.01.49 Quit z35 ("Leaving") 05.16.32 Quit bobrules () 05.33.14 Quit psycho_maniac (" using the phone cuz i have dial up") 05.37.53 Quit kugel (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 05.38.48 Join psycho_maniac [0] (i=psycho_m@ppp451.hk.centurytel.net) 05.41.00 Quit hcs (Connection timed out) 05.49.36 Join ctaylorr [0] (n=ctaylorr@CPE001839ae25b4-CM0011aea4a276.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) 05.55.00 Join sheik28 [0] (n=Sheiky@cpe-66-65-160-101.nyc.res.rr.com) 05.56.11 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 06.01.44 Quit sheik28 ("Nice Scotty, now beam my clothes up too!") 06.12.33 Join LambdaCalculus37 [0] (n=chatzill@ool-4351bd58.dyn.optonline.net) 06.32.00 Join jhulst [0] (n=jhulst@unaffiliated/jhulst) 06.36.11 Join NiAk [0] (i=Niak@unaffiliated/psram) 06.41.47 Part toffe82 06.41.49 Quit ctaylorr (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 07.11.54 Quit LambdaCalculus37 ("Gotta go") 07.16.36 Part NiAk ("Quitte") 07.24.15 Quit psycho_maniac (" getting very sleepy") 07.43.37 Quit mnakiifhh (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 07.44.41 Quit animeloe ("Leaving") 07.53.33 Join cnakijmjf [0] (i=0@86.122.116.44) 07.54.38 Join animeloe [0] (n=animeloe@unaffiliated/animeloe) 07.56.16 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 08.02.35 # Does anyone know if firmware/target/arm/crt0.S is used by anything other than the Gigabeat S these days? 08.03.02 # It doesn't seem like it, as far as I can tell. 08.08.01 Join xushi [0] (n=xushi@unaffiliated/xushi) 08.09.20 Quit roxfan (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 08.13.15 Join roxfan [0] (n=dunno@160.51-240-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be) 08.14.14 Join hcs [0] (n=agashlin@rockbox/contributor/hcs) 08.15.24 Quit billytwowilly (Remote closed the connection) 08.16.00 Join billytwowilly [0] (n=chris@S01060016b649355d.ed.shawcable.net) 08.16.28 Join j0tt [0] (n=j@unaffiliated/jott) 08.18.38 Quit billytwowilly (Remote closed the connection) 08.19.09 Join billytwowilly [0] (n=chris@S01060016b649355d.ed.shawcable.net) 08.28.13 Quit jott (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 08.36.36 Quit hcs (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 08.38.26 Quit Presence ("BitchX-1.1-final -- just do it.") 08.40.06 Join Bagder_ [0] (n=daniel@1-1-5-26a.hud.sth.bostream.se) 08.49.58 Join Rob2222 [0] (n=Miranda@p54B14675.dip.t-dialin.net) 08.54.44 Quit Bagder (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 09.06.22 Join Doomed_ [0] (n=alienbik@ool-44c126d4.dyn.optonline.net) 09.06.32 Quit sup (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 09.08.43 Quit Rob222241 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 09.09.24 Quit alienbiker99 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 09.11.28 Join homielowe [0] (n=chatzill@d207-81-67-190.bchsia.telus.net) 09.15.38 Quit Mouser_X ("Java user signed off") 09.32.18 Join Loplin [0] (n=Loplin@wtfrwibas01-pool0-a186.wtfrwi.tds.net) 09.32.21 # Hello 09.32.37 # Hello! 09.34.37 # I tried a theme that made the text on my sansa invisible. I thought there was a way to make rockbox use default settings by holding down a button when you start it, so I tried each button. When I tried holding down the play button and starting, it froze. Does anyone know of a way I can restart it, without disconnencting and reconnecting the battery? Also, how DO I reset it to defaults? 09.35.55 # Sansa e200 series? 09.36.48 # yes 09.36.54 Quit GodEater (Remote closed the connection) 09.37.06 # I believe that if you hold the power button for long enough, there's a hardware poweroff 09.37.10 Nick GodEater_ is now known as GodEater (n=bryan@rockbox/staff/GodEater) 09.37.24 # thats what I thought, but nothing 09.37.39 # Also, did you try switching hold on just after you booted? I think that's the method to reset on some players 09.37.59 # oh, I didn't hold it long enough, cause it worked now 09.38.26 # I didn't get to the hold before it froze, I'll try that next 09.40.47 # its record ;). Thanks 09.41.03 # Glad to hear you got it working 09.44.45 Nick parafin|away is now known as parafin (i=parafin@paraf.in) 09.55.14 Quit GodEater (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 09.56.18 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 10.04.16 Quit m0f0x (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 10.06.03 Join ender` [0] (i=krneki@84-255-206-8.static.t-2.net) 10.08.19 Join bertrik [0] (n=Bertrik_@211-021-045-062.dynamic.caiway.nl) 10.10.26 Join crwl [0] (n=crawlie@a88-114-143-95.elisa-laajakaista.fi) 10.12.43 Nick aliask is now known as aliask_ (n=chatzill@c58-109-97-210.eburwd4.vic.optusnet.com.au) 10.13.23 Nick aliask_ is now known as aliask (n=chatzill@c58-109-97-210.eburwd4.vic.optusnet.com.au) 10.16.17 Quit JdGordon ("Konversation terminated!") 10.20.09 Quit nicktastic (Remote closed the connection) 10.21.28 Join jott [0] (n=j@unaffiliated/jott) 10.21.45 Join Axio [0] (n=Axio@alf94-1-81-57-140-233.fbx.proxad.net) 10.22.27 Join krazykit_ [0] (n=krazykit@adsl-76-252-1-3.dsl.ipltin.sbcglobal.net) 10.26.03 Quit bpot (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 10.26.54 Join bpot [0] (n=bb@r74-192-161-50.gtwncmta01.grtntx.tl.dh.suddenlink.net) 10.31.16 Quit desowin (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 10.33.21 Quit j0tt (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 10.36.39 Quit krazykit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 10.38.02 # Anyone familiar with ARM assembly want to take a quick look to see if you can see anything noticeably wrong with this translation to ASM: http://pastebin.ca/829623 10.46.25 Quit Axio (Remote closed the connection) 10.50.02 Join desowin [0] (n=desowin@hdp186.internetdsl.tpnet.pl) 10.55.25 Join GodEater [50] (n=bryan@rockbox/staff/GodEater) 11.12.55 Join faemir [0] (n=daniel@85-211-77-177.dyn.gotadsl.co.uk) 11.14.59 Join Jon-Kha [0] (i=jon-kha@80-248-247-190.cust.suomicom.fi) 11.27.22 Join Thundercloud [0] (n=thunderc@84-51-130-71.judith186.adsl.metronet.co.uk) 11.39.01 Join Axio [0] (n=Axio@alf94-1-81-57-140-233.fbx.proxad.net) 11.39.03 Quit amiconn (Nick collision from services.) 11.39.08 Quit Thundercloud (Remote closed the connection) 11.39.12 Join amiconn [50] (n=jens@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 11.41.13 Join lee-qid [0] (n=liqid@p5496603F.dip.t-dialin.net) 11.41.16 Join Thundercloud [0] (n=thunderc@84-51-130-71.judith186.adsl.metronet.co.uk) 11.47.25 Join linuxstb [0] (n=chatzill@rockbox/developer/linuxstb) 11.48.45 # aliask: IIUC, the end position should be +0x4000, not +0x1000 11.49.25 # linuxstb: Ah, of course. I'll give that a shot. 11.51.32 # Also, did you intend to replace (0<<5) with (1<<5) ? 11.51.34 # linuxstb: Perfect. That was the final change to get all the memory remapping inline in ASM inside crt0.S, time to change the linked address. 11.52.33 # linuxstb: Hrm. That 0<<5 is actually in mmu-arm.c 11.53.23 # It works either way, so I'm curious which is correct. 11.56.22 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 12.02.08 Quit krazykit_ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 12.04.25 Nick fxb__ is now known as fxb (n=felixbru@h1252615.stratoserver.net) 12.10.35 Join phossy [0] (n=martin@88-109-101-23.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) 12.11.30 Join Genre9mp3 [0] (n=yngwiejo@rockbox/contributor/Genre9mp3) 12.12.25 Join Redbreva [0] (n=Miranda@host86-150-227-155.range86-150.btcentralplus.com) 12.17.05 Quit xushi (Remote closed the connection) 12.17.46 Join xushi [0] (n=xushi@unaffiliated/xushi) 12.19.46 Part linuxstb 12.34.07 Quit faemir (Remote closed the connection) 12.34.09 Quit jmspeex (Remote closed the connection) 12.35.26 Nick Bagder_ is now known as Bagder (n=daniel@1-1-5-26a.hud.sth.bostream.se) 12.36.13 Join ddalton [0] (n=daniel@124-168-73-215.dyn.iinet.net.au) 12.38.41 Join faemir [0] (n=daniel@85-211-77-177.dyn.gotadsl.co.uk) 12.43.16 Join bertrik_ [0] (n=Bertrik_@211-021-045-062.dynamic.caiway.nl) 12.44.14 Join bertrik__ [0] (n=Bertrik_@211-021-045-062.dynamic.caiway.nl) 12.53.59 Quit bertrik (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 12.59.24 Join webguest57 [0] (n=cede1c5d@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-4cdc2dec12770cfb) 13.01.34 Quit bertrik_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 13.02.08 Quit faemir (Remote closed the connection) 13.06.36 Quit ddalton ("leaving") 13.07.45 Nick bertrik__ is now known as bertrik (n=Bertrik_@211-021-045-062.dynamic.caiway.nl) 13.10.19 Quit webguest57 ("CGI:IRC") 13.10.58 Join thegeek [0] (n=nnscript@85.89.4.72) 13.10.58 Join webguest57 [0] (n=0cd8f002@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-c3a016786143b1dc) 13.13.02 Quit webguest57 (Client Quit) 13.14.44 Join spiorf [0] (n=spiorf@host111-212-dynamic.20-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) 13.15.06 Join moos [0] (i=moos@m237.net81-66-159.noos.fr) 13.15.36 Quit roxfan (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 13.20.47 Join pixelma [0] (n=Marianne@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 13.24.27 Quit japc (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 13.27.39 Quit LinuxMafia (Remote closed the connection) 13.33.05 Join zicho [0] (n=martin@c-5f9fe355.68-7-64736c14.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) 13.33.46 Join hcs [0] (n=agashlin@rockbox/contributor/hcs) 13.41.43 Join webguest03 [0] (n=792c45a1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-0d3df1831234fd21) 13.41.44 Quit axionix (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 13.42.30 Join axionix [0] (n=axion@cpe-74-70-239-192.nycap.res.rr.com) 13.46.01 Quit GodEater (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 13.51.19 Quit webguest03 ("CGI:IRC 0.5.7 (2005/06/19)") 13.56.26 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 14.01.29 Quit zicho (Remote closed the connection) 14.02.09 Join AngusJohnson [0] (n=792c45a1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-67f0bef9c41a7352) 14.04.29 # Hi. I'm here to request write permission as a new member of the rockbox community. (I've almost finished a new theme for the Sansa e200 which I'd like to upload.) 14.06.11 # AngusJohnson: Is your wiki name the same as your IRC nick? 14.07.44 # I've added you, you should be able to edit the wiki to your heart's content. 14.08.09 # I seem to be having trouble with this webclient so I'm about to quit (in case someone tries to reply to my last request). 14.09.28 # Yes. 14.09.34 Join zicho [0] (n=martin@c-5f9fe355.68-7-64736c14.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) 14.09.58 # Thanks. Bye :) 14.11.54 Quit AngusJohnson ("CGI:IRC 0.5.7 (2005/06/19)") 14.12.54 Join Mathiasdm [0] (n=Mathias@d54C597B6.access.telenet.be) 14.13.45 Quit amiconn (Nick collision from services.) 14.13.54 Join amiconn [50] (n=jens@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 14.15.31 # * freqmod_nx added frequences for Oslo, Norway to the wiki 14.16.43 Quit amiconn (Nick collision from services.) 14.16.51 Join amiconn [50] (n=jens@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 14.17.06 Join Arathis [0] (n=doerk@p508A5471.dip.t-dialin.net) 14.26.57 Join hc1 [0] (n=agashlin@ool-43518c2b.dyn.optonline.net) 14.27.47 Quit hcs (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 14.28.54 Join fasmaie [0] (n=yohann@c-24-60-113-125.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) 14.29.10 Part fasmaie 14.39.02 Join davina [0] (n=davina@cpc1-sout6-0-0-cust616.sotn.cable.ntl.com) 14.59.15 Quit Redbreva ("Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org") 15.00.31 Quit XavierGr (Remote closed the connection) 15.06.01 Join Nico_P [50] (n=nicolas@rockbox/developer/NicoP) 15.09.50 Join XavierGr [0] (n=xavier@194.219.217.182) 15.11.39 Part pixelma 15.12.25 Join Klevi [0] (n=balh@ool-435682a7.dyn.optonline.net) 15.15.02 Quit Klevi (Client Quit) 15.16.35 Quit aliask ("ChatZilla 0.9.79 [Firefox 2.0.0.11/2007120410]") 15.20.17 Join Jeton [0] (n=chatzill@79.126.188.199) 15.25.39 # there's a "flashlight" patch posted here: http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/8285 , it basically turns the screen white and you could use it as a flashlight. Anyone thinks it's worth for SVN? 15.29.00 Quit xushi () 15.30.18 # why not just use a plain (white) jpg instead? 15.36.20 Join OlivierBorowski [0] (n=OlivierB@80.185.208.94) 15.36.23 # well the only thing that makes this different would be the option that when you open the plugin , it sets the brightness to maximum (while the jpeg would use the actual brightnes, in my case it's 8 from 12 total). 15.36.38 # but a white jpeg is a good idea . ;) 15.37.07 # Well, I can see some point in a dedicated plugin 15.37.55 # (1) it could set brightness to maximum on targets with brightness adjustment. (2) it saves some processing power (decoding of the jpeg, and loading an additional file 15.38.08 # (3) It has no problem with resolution adjustment 15.38.36 # it's just seems to me a bit bloat, but anyway... 15.39.01 # amiconn: but not all targets would benefit from it 15.39.03 # As a plugin, I wouldn't mind.... 15.42.00 Quit amiconn (" bbl") 15.42.22 # it would just add one more function to the Sansa at least and other color targets, as a flashlight. 15.56.30 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 15.57.35 Quit bpot ("Leaving") 16.02.35 Join DefineByte [0] (n=defineby@bb-87-81-195-5.ukonline.co.uk) 16.02.35 # how can a plugin be bitbloat? 16.08.17 Join kugel [0] (i=kugel@unaffiliated/kugel) 16.14.48 Quit homielowe (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 16.18.00 Join midge1 [0] (n=TJ@c-71-205-31-207.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) 16.19.29 Nick hc1 is now known as hcs (n=agashlin@ool-43518c2b.dyn.optonline.net) 16.22.03 Quit Jeton ("ChatZilla 0.9.79 [Firefox 2.0.0.11/2007112718]") 16.28.02 # Soap: "feature bloat" was what I really wanted to say 16.30.36 Quit OlivierBorowski (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 16.35.18 Quit midgey (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 16.36.58 Join xushi [0] (n=xushi@unaffiliated/xushi) 16.38.30 Quit hcs (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 16.38.33 Quit xushi (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 16.44.45 Join OlivierBorowski [0] (n=OlivierB@80.185.208.94) 16.44.50 Quit OlivierBorowski (Remote closed the connection) 16.44.53 Join krazykit [0] (n=krazykit@adsl-76-251-227-148.dsl.ipltin.sbcglobal.net) 16.44.59 Quit jhulst ("Konversation terminated!") 16.48.15 Join xushi [0] (n=xushi@unaffiliated/xushi) 16.53.50 Quit DefineByte ("Bye all") 16.55.20 # Even that - the only cost to a plugin is in bandwidth, IMHO. 16.55.34 Quit bertrik ("bye") 17.00.19 Quit Arathis ("Bye, bye") 17.00.55 # well, there is a point though where you should judge what to include and what not, otherwise you'll might end up with a list full of unnecessary plugins 17.01.49 Join OlivierBorowski [0] (n=OlivierB@80.185.208.94) 17.02.39 # I'm not sure if a flashlight plugin reaches that point but I am not the one to judge that either 17.03.25 Quit OlivierBorowski (Remote closed the connection) 17.03.42 Join ompaul [0] (n=ompaul@gnewsense/friend/ompaul) 17.03.56 Join gromit` [0] (i=gromit@ras75-5-82-234-244-69.fbx.proxad.net) 17.05.07 Join mf0102 [0] (n=michi@85.127.20.164) 17.07.12 Quit ender` (" The propeller is just a big fan in front of the plane used to keep the pilot cool. 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19.56.38 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 19.57.52 Nick ThunderShit is now known as BoBisChriS (n=aGmIRCc3@adsl-75-18-161-148.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) 19.58.54 Join Bagder_ [0] (n=daniel@1-1-5-26a.hud.sth.bostream.se) 19.59.15 Join styleism [0] (n=sfgfadga@87-194-104-214.bethere.co.uk) 19.59.26 # man 19.59.35 # i forgot my password on here 19.59.39 # how do i recover it 20.06.12 # anyone here? 20.06.45 # ?? 20.09.34 Join iamben [0] (n=ben@adsl-75-10-48-8.dsl.spfdmo.sbcglobal.net) 20.10.02 Quit BlueYersey (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 20.10.08 Quit mf0102 ("Verlassend") 20.12.05 # OMG 20.12.10 # HELP ME!!!!! 20.12.14 # please 20.12.19 # gah 20.12.26 # freakin zombiehs 20.12.54 # wtf chill dude 20.12.58 # lol 20.12.59 # yay! 20.13.05 # /q nickserv help 20.13.23 # nvm that, i need rockbox help 20.13.34 # how do i record? 20.13.50 # on my X5 i press record and thats it.. 20.14.10 # sorry, on a 5th gen video iPod 20.14.43 # dont know about that.. 20.14.54 # kk 20.15.04 # what about games 20.15.11 # what kinda games can i put on this thing 20.15.23 Quit Bagder (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 20.15.30 # BoBisChriS look on the wiki 20.15.47 # i do not understand that wiki one bit 20.15.53 # its sooo confusing to me 20.16.15 Nick Doomed_ is now known as alienbiker99 (n=alienbik@ool-44c126d4.dyn.optonline.net) 20.17.33 # http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IpodAccessories 20.18.13 # yeah not what im lookin for but thanks ^_^ 20.18.34 # you need an adapter to record, thats the supported accessories list 20.18.42 # ooh 20.18.45 # my bad 20.18.46 # thanks 20.19.31 # AHH, how gay, lol 20.19.34 # well thanks man 20.21.46 Quit iamben_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 20.28.02 # u know a good place to get gameboy/gameboy color roms? 20.29.56 # yea 20.29.59 # www.google.com 20.30.37 # i was just asking if one of you knew a good site 20.30.49 # theres TONS of fake ones 20.31.47 # you arent allowed to ask that in here 20.31.54 # oh 20.31.59 # sry agian 20.39.01 Join amiconn [50] (n=jens@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 20.42.26 Quit styleism (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 20.47.25 Join doc|home [0] (n=doc@gentoo/contributor/doc-007) 20.47.57 # when I try to plug in my iriver to usb charge, it continuously discharges then tries to charge, then stops to discharge again 20.48.09 # anyone know how I can get it to just charge and stop discharging? 20.48.29 # no idea 20.50.07 Join BlueYersey [0] (n=nnscript@Z44bd.z.pppool.de) 20.51.07 Join evt [0] (n=jamps@terttuselja.telemail.fi) 20.52.44 # anyone else? 20.52.51 # there all zombies 20.52.53 # sry 20.56.10 Quit moos (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 20.56.11 Join DrMoos [0] (i=moos@m237.net81-66-159.noos.fr) 20.58.49 # doc|home: iriver h300, right? 20.59.21 # Genre9mp3: yep 20.59.44 # doc|home: It don't have that here, tried another USB port on your PC? 20.59.50 # *I 21.00.30 # will try that 21.00.50 Join styleism [0] (n=sfgfadga@87-194-104-214.bethere.co.uk) 21.00.57 Quit BoBisChriS ("aGmIRCc 3.0 @ http://www.XdominionX.com") 21.01.47 # Genre9mp3: same on two different sets of ports 21.02.23 # it seems to start charging and light the screen with the original firmware, then brightens, then stops as if the battery has run out 21.02.35 # finally, it's charging 21.03.24 # hmmm.. so you try to charge it via the RetailOS? 21.03.58 # you can usb charge it with Rockbox if you like btw 21.05.06 # Genre9mp3: yeah, but only if you can get it to boot into rockbox :/ 21.05.13 # which I can't because the battery is too low 21.05.24 # Genre9mp3: What's that contributor flag? 21.05.34 # so it seems to kick into standard os to charge 21.06.54 # doc|home: There is a setting in the original firmware that sets the LCD on or off while charging. Are you sure it stops charging and not just turns off the LCD? 21.07.20 # Genre9mp3: no, it stops, because it then tries to discharge after that 21.07.22 # kugel: It's actually an IRC cloak 21.07.24 Quit JamPS (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 21.07.34 Join mf0102 [0] (n=michi@85.127.20.164) 21.08.01 # kugel: Whoever contributes to Rockbox can have that here 21.08.14 # doc|home: oh, so it gets you to retailOS main screen? 21.08.23 # What did you contribute? 21.08.42 # kugel: iCatcher wps 21.09.10 # Genre9mp3: the battery is empty. I plug it in, it tries to discharge what little is left via rockbox. It does so, attempts to reboot into retail OS, the screen brightens, then it stops and re-enters rockbox. 21.09.18 # rinse - repeat 21.10.00 # have you tried using the AC adapter 21.10.01 Join Joshyro [0] (n=Miranda@189.149.89.3) 21.10.17 # alienbiker99: I don't have it :/ 21.10.30 # I'm back home (Ireland) and it's in Canada 21.10.35 # Genre9mp3: cool 21.11.23 # hey!!! ive installed rockbox on my ipod U2, (firmware apple 123) but i cannot see de bootloader, ( the blue display!) why? 21.11.46 Quit davina (Remote closed the connection) 21.12.08 # no puedo ver el bootloader en mi ipod, como entro al firmaware de apple??? 21.14.25 # menu + select 21.16.07 Quit ompaul (Client Quit) 21.16.43 Quit evt (Remote closed the connection) 21.19.28 # thanks!!! pero porque no me apareció la pantalla azul!?? antes la tenía, actualice el firmware de apple y se borró mi loader, ahora hice de neuvo la instalación pero no me quedo igual algo salio mal? 21.20.28 # no entiendo pero este channel es solo ingles, lo siento 21.21.27 # i have a problem with the bootloader, because i cannot see the options, default is rockbox!!! something is wrong!? 21.23.19 # the rockbox bootloader will always boot rockbox first, there are other bootloaders that will boot the apple os first 21.25.41 # Joshyro: There're no options lol 21.27.07 # yes i know, but this is the second time that i install rockbox, the first time i had a bootloader with 3 or 4 options, then i update mi apple OS, and my bootloader was missing!!! 21.32.20 Join iamben_ [0] (n=ben@ppp-70-247-253-126.dsl.spfdmo.swbell.net) 21.33.49 Part doc|home ("AT&T. Your world. Delivered. To the NSA. No questions asked. | "Diplomacy is hard sometimes." - Dick Cheney") 21.36.01 # ipodlinux bootloader? 21.36.16 Quit Sammienator () 21.37.05 # Im reading a custom bootloader about!:D 21.37.40 Join escargot [0] (n=escargot@uslec-66-255-18-156.cust.uslec.net) 21.39.08 # Hello! I'm trying to install rockbox on an iPod Nano (1st gen), and I get an error on the ipod saying "Can't load rockbox.ipod". Does anyone know what the problem could be? 21.39.13 Quit BlueYersey ("http://www.sek-leipzig.de") 21.42.39 # did you copy the .rockbox folder to your root/ 21.43.04 # Yes, I have a .rockbox folder, and there's a rockbox.ipod file in it. 21.43.09 # But I used the rockbox utility. 21.43.14 # I didn't do it by hand. 21.45.02 Quit iamben (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 21.46.51 Quit Joshyro ("Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org") 21.50.04 # Okay, I just tried doing it by hand again, and it gives the same error. 21.54.58 Join petur [50] (n=petur@rockbox/developer/petur) 21.55.45 Quit BigBambi (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 21.55.46 Join BigBambi_ [0] (n=Alex@rockbox/staff/BigBambi) 21.56.39 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 21.56.46 Join Frazz [0] (n=Fraser@thelawsons.plus.com) 21.57.05 Join hcs [0] (n=agashlin@rockbox/contributor/hcs) 21.59.07 Join Seed [0] (i=ben@bzq-84-108-237-178.cablep.bezeqint.net) 22.06.35 Quit iamben_ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 22.11.26 Join iamben [0] (n=ben@adsl-75-50-50-35.dsl.spfdmo.sbcglobal.net) 22.18.40 Quit Seedy (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 22.20.27 Quit BigBambi_ (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 22.22.46 Join mokkurkalve [0] (n=eivind@084202136126.customer.alfanett.no) 22.24.18 Join DGMurdockIII [0] (i=DGMurdoc@64-184-9-167.bb.hrtc.net) 22.24.52 # is the rockbox now out for creative zen vision M 22.25.56 # no 22.27.02 Quit Rob2222 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 22.27.09 Join Rob2222 [0] (n=Miranda@p54B14675.dip.t-dialin.net) 22.32.51 Nick Bagder_ is now known as Bagder (n=daniel@1-1-5-26a.hud.sth.bostream.se) 22.34.12 Join Thundercloud_ [0] (n=thunderc@84-51-130-71.judith186.adsl.metronet.co.uk) 22.38.13 Quit HellDragon (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 22.41.16 Nick parafin is now known as parafin|away (i=parafin@paraf.in) 22.43.15 Join echelon_ [0] (i=1000@ool-44c7f6cd.dyn.optonline.net) 22.43.37 Quit briantumor (Nick collision from services.) 22.43.45 Part escargot 22.44.08 Nick echelon_ is now known as briantumor (i=1000@ool-44c7f6cd.dyn.optonline.net) 22.46.02 Join HellDragon [0] (i=jd@unaffiliated/helldragon) 22.47.53 Quit Genre9mp3 () 22.48.58 Join kkurbjun [0] (n=kkurbjun@ip72-218-75-230.hr.hr.cox.net) 22.49.30 Quit Thundercloud (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 22.51.33 Part DGMurdockIII 22.55.41 Join Llorean [0] (n=llorean@ppp-70-253-63-165.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net) 22.59.29 Join uwe__ [0] (n=uwe@dslb-084-056-053-082.pools.arcor-ip.net) 23.03.40 Join iamben_ [0] (n=ben@adsl-75-28-169-110.dsl.spfdmo.sbcglobal.net) 23.06.21 Quit kkurbjun (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 23.06.34 Join LambdaCalculus37 [0] (n=chatzill@ool-4351bd58.dyn.optonline.net) 23.07.42 # New diff for FS #8359 up. 23.08.01 # I added some strings for voice generation. 23.08.18 Part Loplin 23.09.05 Quit Frazz ("Leaving") 23.09.20 Join kkurbjun [0] (n=kkurbjun@ip72-218-75-230.hr.hr.cox.net) 23.09.29 Quit bertrik ("bye") 23.11.15 Join jhulst [0] (n=jhulst@unaffiliated/jhulst) 23.11.33 Quit uwe___ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 23.14.27 # Nico_P: Have you had time to look into fs#8335? 23.14.56 # kugel: I have had very little time for rockbox lately 23.15.13 # No problem 23.15.16 # I'm not sure it's going to be better over the holidays 23.15.40 # I just want you to know, that jott likes it 23.15.44 # Take your time 23.16.48 Join webguest97 [0] (n=485e1d79@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-0b1ee4547cfb30a5) 23.17.08 # hm 23.17.20 Quit iamben (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 23.17.31 # hello? 23.17.54 # How can we help you, webguest97? 23.18.09 # Well. 23.18.21 # I've got a problem with rockbox, on an iPod 5.5G 23.18.26 # it won't start/ 23.18.28 # *. 23.18.47 # webguest97: Can you tell us what you have done with your iPod? 23.19.35 # Did you just install Rockbox? Or have you installed before, and are now having problems? 23.19.55 # Installed... 23.20.03 # almost exactly a year ago. 23.20.37 # aside from that necessary to run rockbox, I haven't done anything with it. 23.21.07 # Have you updated your build recently? 23.21.27 # Yep. 23.21.34 # Latest bootloader? 23.21.40 # Tried updating it a few weeks after it stopped working. 23.21.44 # Bootloader? 23.22.23 # You know... using iPodpatcher to apply the bootloader to your iPod? 23.23.17 # Um. 23.23.30 # Is it necessary to do that more than once? 23.23.46 # I thought you only had to do that when installing rockbox. 23.23.53 # Sometimes a newer one is needed 23.24.09 # Especially since it sounds like you may not have done it since you first installed. 23.24.09 # We don't change it unless we have to, but we did have to for dual core support. 23.24.23 # No, I haven't. 23.24.40 # Ahh, there's why Rockbox may not be working, then. 23.24.52 # So, what exactly do I need to do? 23.25.24 Join Mouser_X [0] (n=mouser_x@207.155.176.3) 23.25.27 # Grab iPodpatcher here: http://download.rockbox.org/bootloader/ipod/ipodpatcher/win32/ipodpatcher.exe 23.25.37 # Hook up your iPod to your computer, and then run it. 23.25.42 Quit hcs (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 23.25.49 # Then press i to install the bootloader. 23.26.09 # webguest97: be aware - if you don't know what you're doing you may damanger your player 23.26.30 # How so? 23.26.48 # Indeed. The iPod is pretty difficult to ruin. 23.26.51 # mrkiko: As long as he follows instructions, he'll be perfectly safe. 23.27.01 # ehehehe 23.27.05 # you believe eh? :) 23.27.23 # yes, that's true Mouser_x 23.27.24 # My iPod is a full year old and still singing the tunes. 23.27.33 # mrkiko: It's not a matter of belief. It's a matter of construction. 23.28.02 # The iPod stores it vital data in a section that Rockbox never touches. 23.28.21 # so 23.28.28 # It seems to have done its work. 23.28.41 # Okay, now try booting it up. 23.29.06 # hey 23.29.10 # it works :D 23.29.27 # I was referring only to the bootloader installation aniway - not the rockbox use 23.29.36 # I've missed you so much, baby. 23.29.39 # I mean... 23.29.42 # okay, thanks guys. 23.29.48 # No problem! 23.29.48 # never heard of a single person bricking their iPod - ever. There have been hundreds of idiots who have tried - more idiots than on any other model (marketshare). 23.29.50 # Enjoy! 23.29.58 # Thanks a lot. 23.30.03 # mrkiko: Even when installing the bootloader, you can't damage the iPod. 23.30.07 # Now, how often should I do this? 23.30.28 # webgues97: Only when we say to update the bootloader. 23.30.42 # Where will it say to do so? 23.30.43 # bootloader upgrade? Only needs done when there is a new bootloader - which will be announced all over the front page and most likely in the forums. 23.30.45 # webguest97: practically never 23.31.06 # mrkiko: The only time I can think of that I've heard of someone bricking their iPod, was when they were doing an OF update, and they cut power to their iPod in the middle of the process. 23.31.14 # Alrighty. 23.31.17 # Soap: It's rarely announced on the front page, I think. Or at least, not clearly. 23.31.32 # But it should become policy to at least make it 100% clear in the MajorChanges page that a new one is necessary 23.31.48 # Hm. 23.32.01 # While I'm here, there's another question I've been meaning to ask. 23.32.16 # webguest97: Shoot. 23.32.20 # What exactly is the effect of rockbox on long-term battery life? 23.33.06 # I've noticed that my iPod lasts a max of 8 hours running rockbox, much lower if I play Doom or Pac-Man 23.33.10 # It will cause your iPod to initiate a nuclear explosion. 23.33.17 # Rockbox shouldn't have any direct effect. But the fact that the battery runs down more quickly means that you have to recharge it more often which does increase overall wear. 23.33.31 # Yeah, that's what I'd guessed. 23.33.32 # webguest97: I can net at best 9 hours on my iPod. 23.33.53 # But it's no different than watching Videos all the time in the original firmware. 23.33.53 # Are there any remedies for a weakened battery? 23.34.00 # Replace the battery. 23.34.08 # they arent that expensive 23.34.08 # webguest97: http://www.ifixit.com 23.34.12 # Or any way to increase the life of an existing one? 23.34.13 # Ah. 23.34.21 # Batteries should essentially be considered consumables. They get used up. 23.34.43 # Okay, thanks again. 23.34.43 # webguest97: iFixIt sells higher capacity batteries for all iPod models. 23.35.02 # Really? 23.35.03 # * Mouser_X wants a higher capacity battery for his Gigabeat. 23.35.08 Join aliask [0] (n=chatzill@c58-109-97-210.eburwd4.vic.optusnet.com.au) 23.35.22 # (For that matter, a larger drive wouldn't be bad either.) 23.35.29 # webguest97: if you haven't upgraded Rockbox since before the new bootloader was required - you'll see at least a 20% increase in runtime when compared to what you are used to. 23.36.08 # Soap: Mine went from about 7 hours to 9-10 hours after installing the latest bootloader. 23.36.11 # Man, hard drives are pretty expensive. =\ 23.36.20 # Sweet. 23.36.39 # how long between Rockbox updates, LambdaCalculus37? 23.36.57 # Soap: Every day. 23.37.10 # Or for major changes. 23.37.20 Join barrywardell [0] (n=barrywar@194.46.187.78) 23.37.36 # Now I feel like getting a white click wheel or different back, just to mess people up. 23.38.10 # then you shouldn't have seen jack battery life increase when you did bootloaders - I was refering to the fact that there has been a couple of changes (most notably HDD poweroff) since the bootloader change (which is what dates webguest97's previous install) which have made the battery life difference. 23.38.11 # is 580 mAh the default battery for the 30 GB? 23.38.17 # The bootloader itself shouldn't have made any. 23.38.47 # webguest97: No, 400 mAh is. 23.39.00 # >=] 23.39.12 # Excellent. 23.39.41 # Oh, and does rockbox really update daily? What sort of changes are made? 23.40.05 # webguest97: Rockbox often updates hourly. 23.40.12 # Let alone daily. 23.40.38 Quit spiorf (Remote closed the connection) 23.40.42 # Each models does? 23.40.46 # *model 23.40.59 Join ed_mann [0] (n=edwardo@74-139-88-213.dhcp.insightbb.com) 23.41.14 # For the best I can determine, iPod (Video) battery life has gone up ~32% in the last 15 months. 23.41.14 # webguest97: Yes. 23.41.18 # Changes often are to the "apps" layer, which affects all players (or most) 23.41.32 # webguest97: Rockbox is a whole. In other words, if something is added to Rockbox, it almost always hits all the targets. 23.41.32 # What kind of changes? 23.41.58 # i have a Sansa e250v2 and i cannot get the device to show up under linux. I have tried the tips to get it into msc mode. or recovery and it's not working. Any tips 23.42.28 # ed_mann: We don't even support the v2 Sansa models. 23.42.30 # ed_mann: This is #rockbox, not #e250v2. 23.43.05 # ya i saw some tips on the web on your site, and was thinking i could get some assistance. 23.43.19 # i know it's not supported. 23.43.25 # different hardware. 23.43.55 # also i thought i had a v1 because i did not see audible on the box, but when i got it home and opened it it was a v2 23.44.13 # That sucks. 23.44.22 # ed_mann: I suggest taking it back to wherever you got it from and ask for another Sansa. 23.44.32 # Hopefully, it'll turn out to be a v1. 23.44.36 # Hm. 23.44.59 # Could one swap the batteries of a 30GB Video and a 60/80 GB? 23.45.27 # webguest97: No can do. The 60/80GB battery is a wee bit thicker. 23.45.37 # Wait, never mind. 23.45.44 # ya i was thinking about that... but how can i identify a v1 on the outside of the box? 23.46.07 # Look for audible support. 23.46.26 # If you see it, it's a v2. If it's not on the box, it *might* be a v1. 23.46.26 # Mouser_X: He just said that he got one that didn't mention it. 23.46.42 # I thought he said he forgot to look... 23.46.46 # Seems like SanDisk just used leftover packaging on v2s. 23.46.55 # I was wrong, sorry. 23.46.55 # Well, thanks again for your help, guys. 23.47.14 # webguest97: Enjoy and Merry Xmas! :) 23.47.25 Join bertrik [0] (n=Bertrik_@211-021-045-062.dynamic.caiway.nl) 23.47.41 # Mouser_X: ya the box did not mention audible support at all. I did find a box that did mention it, and thought i had a v1 when i could not find it at all 23.47.54 # And thanks for that site. It's a comfort to know that if I ever happen to shatter my iPod completely (which is pretty likely, actually), I can try to salvage the hard drive and rebuild it from scratch 23.48.08 # Yah, I misread what you said earlier. :( That does make things more difficult. 23.48.23 # Also, Merry Christmas to all of you :) 23.48.26 Join saratoga [0] (n=62e14d04@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-35db93846cd79a43) 23.48.27 Part webguest97 23.48.45 Join barrywardell_ [0] (n=barrywar@host-194-46-233-176.dsl-ie.utvinternet.net) 23.49.18 Quit miepchen^schlaf (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 23.49.38 # ed_mann: This isn't the best option, but it might work. When/if you take your v2 back and get a new one, open it while still at the counter, and look to see if it's a v2. 23.49.42 Join miepchen^schlaf [0] (n=hihi@p54BF50AE.dip.t-dialin.net) 23.49.52 # Mouser_X: i might just do that. 23.49.53 # thanks. 23.49.59 # Do this, until you've gone through their whole stock, get bored, or find a v1. 23.50.19 # :-) 23.50.22 # they would love that 23.50.24 # (Or until they kick you out.) 23.50.27 # rasher: Thanks for the commit! :) 23.51.21 # ya 23.52.34 Quit iamben_ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 23.53.43 Join ZincAlloy [0] (n=d9eedbd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-53318cf627060972) 23.54.28 Join billenium [0] (n=billeniu@c-69-249-243-110.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) 23.55.59 Join iamben [0] (n=ben@adsl-75-34-66-44.dsl.spfdmo.sbcglobal.net) 23.56.41 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 23.58.51 Join lns [0] (n=lns@75.61.204.105)