--- Log for 04.01.108 Server: clarke.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 2 days and 18 hours ago 00.00.18 Quit stripwax ("Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org") 00.02.17 Quit Arathis ("Bye, bye") 00.09.10 Quit rasher (clarke.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 00.09.10 NSplit clarke.freenode.net irc.freenode.net 00.10.12 Join Lynn_ [0] (n=Lynn@74.196.116.167) 00.10.14 Part fliegenderfrosch 00.11.14 # hey what is the longest its taken your device to build the database... I have about 7.5 gigs of mp3's on it about 320 bitrate but its taken like 8 hours on my sansa... is there something that I am doing wrong? 00.11.36 # It should never take more than half an hour even. 00.11.48 # ok so what am I doing wrong? 00.11.48 # What are you using to determine that it's still building? 00.12.11 Quit DerPapst (Nick collision from services.) 00.12.22 # well it says the number 00.12.27 Quit davina (Remote closed the connection) 00.12.32 # and it keeps increasing like from 1 to got to 209 00.12.36 # I don't know what its counting 00.12.50 NHeal clarke.freenode.net irc.freenode.net 00.12.50 NJoin rasher [50] (n=rasher@rockbox/developer/rasher) 00.13.13 Quit amiconn (Nick collision from services.) 00.13.21 Join amiconn [50] (n=jens@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 00.14.37 # Lynn_: And this is with a current, official build? All you've done is install the Rockbox build from the main website, then chosen to "Initialize Now" your database? 00.14.48 # yeah 00.14.56 # its a current build from yesterday 00.15.04 # on the home screen 00.15.06 # I select 00.15.17 # database 00.15.21 # Could you please try to type whole sentences, instead of hitting enter every few words. 00.15.22 # and it takes forever 00.15.31 # sure sorry. 00.16.32 # in fact, it keeps freezing up my sansa e280.. I am having to pull the battery a lot. 00.16.46 # You should never have to pull the battery. 00.17.01 # Holding power for 15-20 seconds should always be able to shut it down, even if Rockbox is completely locked up. 00.17.17 # ok 00.17.49 # If it's freezing, that's quite important information. Do you know if your MP3s have any odd tags? Extremely long comments, or embedded album art, or lyrics, or anything like that? 00.18.20 # no... they are pretty much from the great oink... great quality and freedsb tags.. most of them or better. 00.18.39 # yes there is album art 00.19.18 # I have no idea what you mean by "from the great oink" 00.19.22 # the music is under the default folder which is hidden by the default os sansa uses. 00.19.28 # Llorean: You don't want to know... 00.19.37 # oh.... it was a torrent site which just got shut down. 00.19.41 # invite only great music 00.19.42 # You didn't answer me as to whether the album art is embedded. 00.19.56 # how would it be embedded? I do not understand 00.19.57 # Also, the presence of good tags doesn't mean there aren't additional comment and lyrics tags. 00.20.04 # Album Art can be stored in an ID3 tag. 00.20.11 # This is called "embedded" 00.20.39 # ahh... then no. my music is under music/(album)/ 00.20.40 # that's it 00.20.54 # That's not at all what I asked. 00.20.59 Quit einhirn (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 00.21.06 # I'm asking about the ID3 tags. 00.21.11 # They're built into the .mp3 files. 00.21.14 Quit Jon-Kha (Remote closed the connection) 00.21.37 Quit rasher (clarke.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 00.21.37 NSplit clarke.freenode.net irc.freenode.net 00.21.59 # That's what the database uses, so the condition of these tags, including which ID3 standard was used, can have an affect on the database. It's still known to have problems with not handling unsupported tags gracefully, I believe. 00.22.13 # what do you want me to do. I use foobar, don't really tag the mp3's any different than what I get them. random music some might have embedded tags, and most of them do not. 00.22.24 # ohh. 00.22.37 # Well, you're asking how to fix your problem. 00.22.46 # I'm asking questions that need to be answered to track down what your problem is. 00.22.49 # ok should I remove all the music from the device? 00.23.11 # One solution is to do a binary search to see if a specific file or set of files is the one causing it to hang or have problems, yes. 00.23.26 # And then give us one of those files... 00.23.31 NHeal clarke.freenode.net irc.freenode.net 00.23.31 NJoin rasher [50] (n=rasher@rockbox/developer/rasher) 00.24.42 Join omgar [0] (n=0mgaar@adsl-69-225-40-100.dsl.skt2ca.pacbell.net) 00.24.54 # at the home screen, everything appears to work perfectly, however I have not been able to listen to any music... Maybe I am not selecting the right music option. Even a few of the games I tested worked. Also, when I tried to choose a different theme it would not accept the theme. It remained on the default 00.25.55 # If you select an incompatible theme (one that requires a patched version of Rockbox) this might happen. You may also not have installed the fonts package. 00.27.21 # I don't know what you mean by "right music option" though. Playing music is as simple as browsing to the song under files and clicking on it, since you haven't got database working 00.27.46 # i checked the fonts package yesterday, also it seems to almost lock up while I am trying to charge it with usb while I am using it. Is this a common problem? 00.28.25 # "Almost lock up" is not very descriptive. What exactly do you mean? 00.29.01 # well, I have to hold the power button for 20 seconds till it shuts down then re power it back up, otherwise the blue light just remains on and nothing happens on the screen. 00.30.16 # And this happens when you're in Rockbox, hold down the center button, and insert a USB cable? 00.31.02 Quit lee-qid ("aufwiederbyebientotsayonara") 00.31.06 # no just when I insert a usb cable... I was not aware that I had to hold the select button while I was inserting the usb cable. 00.31.41 # If you insert the USB cable, it tries to go into USB mode, but this is buggy still and doesn't work properly. It *should* restart into the original firmware, but this isn't working. 00.31.49 # You must hold down select to tell it not to do this, and just charge. 00.32.50 # the radio works just fine, and after I held down the select button, it is also charging it now. that's probably why its locking up. while reading through the manual it did not say much about the file structure of the music, does it need to be in a specific root folder? can it be in sub folders? 00.33.07 # It can be anywhere. 00.33.15 # It doesn't say anything about it, because it doesn't matter where it is. 00.33.24 Quit stinke ("Verlassend") 00.33.48 Quit omgar () 00.34.50 Quit midkay (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 00.34.58 Join midkay_ [0] (n=midkay@c-24-19-236-139.hsd1.mn.comcast.net) 00.35.18 Nick midkay_ is now known as midkay (n=midkay@c-24-19-236-139.hsd1.mn.comcast.net) 00.35.28 # I just went into the files menu and went down to root.... selected it and now it appears to be frozen with Loading... across the screen. 00.35.35 Quit InMyMind () 00.36.29 # I'm going to guess that you just tried to load a playlist. 00.36.34 # The "Files" option is not a menu 00.36.37 # It just shows the filetree. 00.36.48 # Since I can't know what file you have named 'root', I can't really know what you did. 00.37.08 # oh wow.... it just gave a new message... playlist buffer full. 00.37.22 # Then yes, you tried to load a playlist. 00.37.31 # Have you read the manual? It sounds like you're just trying random things. 00.38.07 # I did read the manual. it did not seem to address trouble shooting very well. I will read it again. 00.38.40 # What you're describing isn't "trouble shooting" 00.38.50 # I've told you what you need to do to troubleshoot the problem with your database. 00.40.07 # I will remove all the music files and then only put one album on then try the database again. 00.40.27 # I will let you know how it goes. 00.41.47 # Try using the initialize option in the database menu 00.42.32 Join safetydan [0] (n=safetyda@rockbox/developer/safetydan) 00.43.02 # ok, will do, its going to take about 20 minutes to dump the music off of it, I will be back after its done. 00.43.08 Join webguest47 [0] (n=4c10ea95@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-558d24addb579915) 00.43.22 # thank you for helping me 00.45.16 Quit eigma (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 00.46.11 Quit Alonea (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 00.47.02 Join FOAD_ [0] (n=dok@dinah.blub.net) 00.47.09 Join Alonea [0] (n=chatzill@69.92.201.36) 00.47.50 # hi do you guy's know of some dvd movie converter i can use to convert my dvds to play in rockbox? 00.48.19 Join webguest64 [0] (n=c9fa15f6@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-eda4b4ca75bc8785) 00.48.49 # webguest47: That's really outside the scope of this channel, which is for support of the Rockbox software itself 00.48.49 Quit webguest64 (Client Quit) 00.49.43 Join Gnu47_ [0] (n=Gnu47@82.118.125.98) 00.49.57 Quit Gnu47 (Nick collision from services.) 00.49.59 Nick Gnu47_ is now known as Gnu47 (n=Gnu47@82.118.125.98) 00.50.02 Quit Alonea (Remote closed the connection) 00.50.14 # it's just that i'm using one of the converters that you guys have here on rockbox it's called winFF but it doesn't do dvd's. Can you please help? :) 00.50.46 # That's not our software, we just linked to it. 00.51.41 # Seriously, the PluginMpegplayer page describes what's necessary of a video for it to be playable in Rockbox. But there are many, many better places on the internet where you can ask "How do I convert a DVD to mpeg2 320x240 video with 44khz MP3 audio" or whatever variant of that question is relevant for your player of choice 00.52.24 # do you guy's know one i can use? the ones i got convert dvd to mpeg but when i copy the movies to my ipod rockbox wont play them the right way and sometimes they don't play at all. 00.52.38 # Is WMA realtime on the PP5002? 00.53.47 Part |NSA| 00.54.02 # webguest47: So once you have an mpeg, use the tools from the wiki page to convert it again to the right sort of mpeg. 00.55.14 # Llorean: I would be glad to provide another mirror for archived builds if needed 00.55.23 # and host it. 00.55.29 # Lynn_: We don't need a mirror for them 00.55.36 # yeah i tried that but they say that it's already in mpeg format and it doesn't let me convert them after that. 00.55.48 # webguest47: I guarantee you that WinFF will not say that. 00.57.37 Quit scorche|w ("CGI:IRC") 00.57.44 # thats the one that i use i'm serious. if that wasn't true then i wouldn't be asking. it really doesn't work...please help if you know of a converter that does this? i'm searching google in another tab right now too. 00.59.58 # webguest47: I've told you it's outside the scope of this channel. 01.01.11 # so you really can't help? do you alteast know of a converter but you just can't tell me? 01.02.29 Quit FOAD (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 01.02.29 Nick FOAD_ is now known as FOAD (n=dok@dinah.blub.net) 01.03.13 # webguest47: What I'm telling you is "Please stop asking." I'm also now telling you that I'm beginning to get tired of telling you this. 01.04.11 Quit faemir (Remote closed the connection) 01.04.47 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 01.06.25 Quit obo ("bye") 01.07.16 # ok. thanks anyway. 01.08.55 Quit ompaul (Client Quit) 01.10.31 Join gamepad [0] (i=Dell@bas5-quebec14-1177919647.dsl.bell.ca) 01.11.19 Quit webguest47 ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 01.12.29 Quit ender` (" Be nice to the USA, or they'll bring you democracy.") 01.12.55 Quit mf0102 ("Verlassend") 01.17.16 # w0w 01.17.40 # gray_core.c: ~2500 lines. grey_core.c: ~760 lines 01.17.42 # ? 01.17.54 # can I expect to play an HE-AAC file with a e280? 01.18.03 # No 01.18.16 # HE-AAC is a lot more CPU intensive than standard AAC. 01.18.29 # amiconn: You're renaming the lib from gray to grey ? 01.18.37 # yes 01.19.12 Join Thundercloud_ [0] (n=thunderc@84-51-130-71.judith186.adsl.metronet.co.uk) 01.19.14 # Both to make it not collide with gray* during transition, and because I prefer british spelling 01.19.46 # llorean: thanks 01.20.06 # Llorean: you were correct... it must have been with the tags... 01.20.23 # I have only one folder on it with music now... it loaded the database in seconds and restarted then its working fine. 01.20.54 # I do not understand why the files would play with the players default os but not Rock...? 01.21.11 # some of them had embedded pictures. 01.21.14 # Lynn_: Because they're different applications, with different supported features and bugs? 01.21.23 # Lynn_: 1) It's "Rockbox" not "Rock". We have non-English speakers in here, so it's important not to randomly abbreviate things 01.21.53 # Lynn_: And "Whether the files play" is completely different from "Can Rockbox's database index them". Rockbox may even play the "bad" files, it just may not be able to database them. 01.22.03 # Lynn_: If you can provide an example file that prevents the database from building, that would help us fix the problem. 01.22.28 # ok. I will try one folder at a time till I find the problem one. Then I will zip the music and find a way to get it to you. 01.22.46 # amiconn: so does this mean smooth mpeg video on H120 :)? 01.22.55 Part lassesdatamaskin ("Leaving.") 01.22.55 # It will 01.23.14 # Lynn_: A binary search would be easier. A lot less work: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Binary_search 01.23.51 Part tonyyarusso 01.24.12 # Basically, put half the files on. If it works, switch halves. If it doesn't work, take half those files off and try again. Keep halving and trying (and swapping halves when necessary) until you're down to one bad file. 01.24.42 # yes, I have a feeling I know which folder is causing a problem. I will try that folder first 01.28.52 Join saratoga [0] (n=9803c6dd@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-c47ac6cd86e79c4c) 01.29.05 # Llorean: have you looked at whats actually posted in the D2 thread? 01.29.53 # In what sense? 01.30.10 # well theres source code for a wma decoder for instance 01.30.16 # and it aint' from ffmpeg 01.30.37 # amiconn: that's everything with ASM too? 01.30.42 # Ah, well that's something we probably can't use in any significant sense. 01.31.11 # No asm atm... but the new lib needs far less asm than the old one 01.31.20 # US copyright at least means "all rights reserved", which means that, in theory we can learn from it but not reuse it. Doable with datasheets, quite hard with source. 01.31.27 # "pWMADec_Janus.c" 01.31.35 # someone at MS is not going to like that 01.31.55 # Llorean: come up with anything new? (havent't checked logs yet) 01.32.02 # jhMikeS: Nope. 01.32.47 # saratoga: Yeah, but I don't see what we can really do about those links. 01.33.04 # The big advantage is that the new lib doesn't need to bitshift like hell 01.33.09 # jhMikeS: Haven't been playing with it. I have a 12' screen at my disposal until Sunday, so it's hard to convince myself to squint 01.33.13 # maybe we should email them as a courtesy? 01.33.39 # Everything is in byte quantities... just the address calculcation is a bit weird for targets with vertical pixel packing 01.33.50 Quit Thundercloud (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 01.33.58 # saratoga: It's possible we should. I've been kinda waiting to try to get a word with Bagder about it. 01.34.18 # Llorean: and 12' is not a typo? :) 01.34.45 # asm will still help to speed up things a bit, e.g. by utilising burst mode loading (movem on cf, ldmia on arm) 01.34.56 # jhMikeS: 1080p projector. :) 01.34.59 Quit Thundercloud_ (Remote closed the connection) 01.35.58 # amiconn: Could it be fast enough to be usable in WPSes on SwCodec by chance? 01.36.10 # Or, nevermind 01.36.12 # Constant boost, right. 01.36.20 Quit miepchen^schlaf (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 01.36.32 # On PP, yes. Not on cf. That applies to the old lib as well 01.37.23 # The constant boost on PP is only necessary because the lcd controller doesn't like the cpu clock changing while a transfer is running 01.37.56 # It *used* to be necessary due to lcd update speed as wel,, but that problem is gone for some time already :) 01.38.09 # does the sansa e280 support most of the different themes? It says loaded but I am not seeing a difference. I have loaded the fonts, but I am not seeing font changes or color changes in the different themes. 01.39.32 # Lynn_: What "most of of the different themes"? There are different themes for different players, and some themes require special modified versions of Rockbox... 01.39.34 # You are most likely using themes designed for third-party (unofficial) versions of Rockbox. A lots of themes out there won't work with a normal Rockbox build. 01.40.23 # ahh. which themes are standard with Rockbox mentioned in the manual? I will try to load one of those. 01.40.42 Quit linuxstb ("ChatZilla 0.9.79 [Firefox 2.0.0.11/2007112718]") 01.42.04 Join theclaw [0] (n=theclaw@unaffiliated/theclaw) 01.42.06 # hi there 01.42.50 Join miepchen^schlaf [0] (n=hihi@p54BF62B7.dip.t-dialin.net) 01.43.02 # rockbox doesn't support aac right now? 01.43.13 # Rockbox supports AAC. 01.43.20 # theclaw: it supports aac, just not all profiles 01.43.28 # LC-AAC on all software codec players, and HE-AAC on the Gigabeat. 01.44.30 # i have a .m4b file (an audiobook), mplayer uses libfaad to decode it, but rockbox doesn't play it 01.44.47 # rockbox uses faad too 01.44.59 # theclaw: That doesn't tell us what profile it is. 01.45.09 # Low bitrate is often HE-AAC, and sometimes even LTP apparently 01.45.30 # As well, long files, as single-file audiobooks often are, don't currently play in Rockbox due to a parser issue. 01.46.09 # is 20MB too big? 01.46.38 # I think it's an issue of length, not actual size of the file. 01.46.59 Join Gnu47_ [0] (i=Gnu47@82.118.125.98) 01.47.03 # But there's also the question of encoding profile. 01.47.16 # how do I find out? 01.47.43 # No clue. Generally speaking, it's something you'd probably choose when creating the content... 01.48.04 # heh, I didn't ;) 01.53.27 # foobar is pretty good at checking aac files 01.54.38 Quit DrMoos ("Foobar2k is so nice !!! :)") 01.56.03 # i'll try, have to install first 01.57.53 Join curvin [0] (n=chatzill@155.98.115.235) 01.59.09 # Hi folks! I'm looking for some mortar to go with my new brick! :D Last night I decided to try out rockbox on my Sansa e250R (yep the Rhapsody edition) and now it's a cute black rock that can glow blue. The screen never turns on in any mode... Any help or ideas would be great 01.59.42 # ouch :) 01.59.52 Part pixelma 02.00.00 # Oh yeah, I was doing it all on Windows yesterday, I'm on Linux now though 02.00.41 Quit waldo ("Konversation terminated!") 02.01.20 # The last thing I did that really broke it completely was I copied a blank file called sansa.fmt to the device and it rebooted, wiped the device and then shut off. Now it comes on (the blue light anyway) but nothing comes up on the screen. 02.02.17 # curvin, have you tried going into recovery mode and recovering the OF as detailed on the wiki page SansaE200Unbrick 02.03.22 # I did try a few things last night. I'll give them a whirl again today on my Linux box. Thanks for the suggestion, I'll check back in a bit 02.03.59 # safetydan: foobar2000 doesn't seem to know the file 02.04.06 # err 02.04.07 Quit Gnu47 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 02.04.08 # saratoga: 02.04.28 # "could not enumerate tracks (Unsupported format or corrupted file) on: ..." 02.04.32 Quit Gnu47_ ("Don't follow me") 02.04.46 Join Gnu47 [0] (i=Gnu47@82.118.125.98) 02.05.25 Join FOAD_ [0] (n=dok@dinah.blub.net) 02.06.09 Quit FOAD (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 02.06.09 Nick FOAD_ is now known as FOAD (n=dok@dinah.blub.net) 02.07.16 Quit jhulst ("Konversation terminated!") 02.08.21 # theclaw: sounds like a corrupt file 02.08.39 # it plays in mplayer, and I can convert it with ffmpeg 02.08.41 Join mellery [0] (n=80adc1e4@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-c6a0e05d5888d7c4) 02.08.46 # hello 02.09.02 # hello 02.09.59 # How do I switch USB modes on my Sansa if I can't boot into it? 02.10.26 Join FOAD_ [0] (n=dok@dinah.blub.net) 02.10.29 # theclaw: foobar and mplayer use the same decoder, if its not working in one, its probably broken somehow 02.10.36 # hmmm 02.10.40 # thats strange 02.10.45 # maybe i don't have libfaad installed? 02.10.50 # unter windows 02.10.52 # err, 02.10.53 # is there a way to change the station in rockbox without using presets? i can only name presets it looks like. i'm using a sansa e200 02.11.00 # i didn't tell you that I run windows in virtualbox 02.11.06 # and mplayer "natively" under linux 02.11.11 # sorry ;) 02.11.11 # theclaw: Foobar2000 doesn't require codecs installed. 02.11.21 # curvin, you can't. that's why you need to go through recovery mode 02.11.22 # Llorean: it brings it with them? 02.11.28 # They're built in. 02.11.42 # ah 02.11.44 # But I can't get into recovery mode. It's a viscous cycle :D 02.11.57 # Recovery mode doesn't use the MTP/MSC option 02.12.00 Join jhulst [0] (n=jhulst@unaffiliated/jhulst) 02.12.17 # mellery: See the manual. 02.12.53 # curvin, if you can't get it into recovery mode, go into manufacture mode, recover the bootloader, and immediately go into recovery mode from there 02.13.37 # When I follow the steps to enter recovery mode, nothing comes up on my Sansa screen. If I check dmesg I get output... http://pastebin.com/m642227f7 02.14.23 # The same thing happens in manufacture mode. Blank screen but the blue light turns on. 02.14.52 # Manufacturer mode isn't supposed to display anything on screen. 02.15.24 Quit mellery ("CGI:IRC") 02.15.27 # Sweet, I'm golden then! I'll see what I can do. 02.16.32 # Ok so the instructions say to use BL_SD_boardSupportSD.rom where might I find that file? 02.16.49 # * Llorean thought the instructions used to say 02.18.57 # So on the website where I just downloaded the e200tool binary should I grab the i2c-e260.bin file? http://daniel.haxx.se/sansa/e200tool.html 02.19.10 # I've got the e250R... 02.19.13 # Then no 02.19.49 # Heh heh heh, so any ideas on where I might grab one for my little black brick? 02.19.50 # You don't need an I2C ROM 02.19.55 # Oh? 02.20.01 # You need the BootLoader ROM 02.20.15 # Which is on the MI4 page of that site 02.20.40 # Oh, thanks! It ends in btl, is that cool? 02.20.51 # Or rather, "kosher" 02.21.00 # Cool would be a relative term, which all of this stuff is 02.21.29 # curvin, that should work 02.21.58 # Awesome, thanks! 02.22.03 # The countdown is going... 02.22.27 Quit gnoob (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 02.23.11 # Ok, not sure if it worked, here's the output: http://pastebin.com/m68fe0f4c 02.23.35 # "Error" generally means that no, it did not work. 02.23.40 Join gnoob [0] (n=ToolBoy@c-71-201-79-143.hsd1.il.comcast.net) 02.24.04 # Heh heh heh, it's such a descriptive term. 02.24.17 # Should I just run it again? 02.24.39 Quit FOAD (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 02.24.39 Nick FOAD_ is now known as FOAD (n=dok@dinah.blub.net) 02.25.29 # Oh! I think I may have left out a vital piece of information. When I first unlocked the firmware it said I have a "Vanilla" something... Does that mean my unit isn't really the R version? And maybe I should give the regular e250 rom a whirl? 02.26.37 # curvin, when you used to boot into the OF, did it say "sansa rhapsody" at the loading screen and have "rhapsody channels" in the menus? 02.27.47 # I wish I could tell you. I unwrapped my little brick, and the first thing I did was try to install rockbox on it. When it booted up I do not remember seeing anything about Rhapsody, but the symbol is on the back of it. 02.28.57 # More possibly vital information... It's a REFURB, and it says so in bold stamped lettering on the back 02.31.14 # not stamped - metalic stickers which can come off. 02.31.19 # metallic even 02.31.35 # :D Who would want to take those off? 02.32.28 Quit gnoob (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 02.33.45 # its getting further in the writing process if I hold down the center select button; but it still fails. 02.33.54 Join gnoob [0] (n=ToolBoy@c-71-201-79-143.hsd1.il.comcast.net) 02.34.08 # The hex number changes every time... 02.34.22 # Write at 0x106021b7 02.34.32 # Write at 0x1060ad40 02.34.40 # If only I could count in hex 02.35.23 # I'll give the regular 250 rom a shot, brb 02.39.07 # n8 then :) 02.39.08 Quit theclaw ("bye") 02.44.41 Quit saratoga ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 02.45.36 # Hey hey hey, looking good! http://pastebin.com/m42ce6038 02.45.58 # I'm gonna give recovery a whirl now 02.49.02 # It doesn't seem to want to boot into recovery :( 02.50.01 # curvin, you need to boot to recovery straight away from manufacture mode 02.50.01 Quit japc (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 02.50.41 # oh! thanks 02.51.55 # I don't see how. It says to hold the rec button (on the side) but it just stays at the blank screen. Any idea on how long I'm supposed to wait? 02.53.03 # start holding record before you unplug from manufacture mode. that should let you get into recovery mode 02.56.59 # Thanks! 02.59.19 Join jamesx [0] (n=44c5174a@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-7b4dd3f14c936a1f) 03.00.44 # Hey rockboxers - weird thing is happening - my computer has decided to not recognize my ipod is a USB device - I plug it in - it says 'FOUND: Rockbox Media Player' - then files it under the 'I DONNO WHAT THIS IS' yellow questionmark 03.01.07 # Sounds like it's missing a driver? 03.01.21 # jamesx: Reboot it into disk mode first. 03.02.22 # krazykit, i held the rec button for a minute, nothing. I turned off the device (usb still plugged in) and it wouldn't turn back on. I unplugged the USB and then it would turn on, but still nothing on the screen. All while holding the rec button 03.02.37 # Llorean: Reboot into disk mode and then plug it in or re-reboot then back into rockbox? 03.03.17 # Plug it in while in disk mode 03.03.51 # Rockbox doesn't have a USB mode, and the recent work on adding one is incomplete, and seems to have in some cases (when plugged into windows) caused problems triggering an auto-reboot into disk mode, something that used to be a feature 03.04.06 # Sorry, "Rockbox doesn't have a USB mode on iPods" 03.04.06 # AaahHA! 03.04.36 # Oh man, I want an AaahHA! 03.04.37 # Brilliant Llor, working now - is this how I have to get into it henceforth? 03.04.48 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 03.05.09 # curvin - this is the best I can do: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CUod3jGQt0U 03.05.28 # Heh heh heh! thanks! 03.05.31 # curvin, just a sec, lemme check something 03.05.36 # k 03.06.05 # Llorean - what's strange is that prior to this past week, it's recognized it fine. I assume this is a more recent build issue? 03.06.16 # No rush, I'm watching one the best music videos of all time... 03.06.24 # one *of* 03.06.29 # jamesx: It's a little older than just one week. 03.06.30 # krazykit: I've bought you some time ;) 03.06.34 # But it is a semi-recent issue 03.06.40 # :D 03.06.49 # Ok, I only just updated my build a week or two ago - so this makes sense 03.07.54 # (My ipod primarily stays in the car... no need to constantly update) 03.08.09 # Anyway, thanks for your help sirrah - you are a gentleman and a scholar. 03.09.01 Quit jamesx ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 03.12.52 # curvin, what you SHOULD be able to do is put the device in manufacture mode, get the e200tool recover command ready (as root or sudo, remember!), hold the record button, then start the e200tool command. after e200tool finishes, you should be put into recovery mode immediately 03.13.26 # Awesome thanks! 03.19.22 Quit phossy (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 03.19.50 Join phossy [0] (n=martin@88-109-47-210.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) 03.20.32 Join s0nix [0] (n=s0nix@modemcable121.29-57-74.mc.videotron.ca) 03.20.37 # hi 03.20.58 # I appreciate all the help! 03.21.10 # It's still not going into recovery mode though 03.21.34 # curvin, that's very strange then. i have no idea why it isn't. 03.21.42 # It might just be that I really bricked it 03.22.01 Quit phossy (Client Quit) 03.22.07 # It might need a .45 or something to convince it to work... 03.22.28 # :D 03.22.59 # Thanks for all your help, I'll play with the info you've given me and see what I can do. I'll come back and let you know if I have any success. Your help is much appreciated either way. 03.23.13 # I am wondering about the benefits on installing rockbox versus ipodlinux... if someone can inform me. 03.23.40 # http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IpodLinux 03.24.09 # hoo :) 03.24.13 # you can also have a look at http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/WhyRockbox and compare a bit 03.25.22 Quit curvin ("User is away.") 03.28.57 Quit kugel ("ChatZilla 0.9.79 [Firefox 2.0.0.11/2007112718]") 03.34.57 Quit DerDome (Nick collision from services.) 03.35.00 Join DerDom1 [0] (n=DerDome@dslb-082-083-201-009.pools.arcor-ip.net) 03.35.10 Nick DerDom1 is now known as DerDome (n=DerDome@dslb-082-083-201-009.pools.arcor-ip.net) 03.43.23 Join S [0] (n=john@dslb-084-060-170-250.pools.arcor-ip.net) 03.48.21 Quit Lynn_ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 03.48.38 # rockbox work with the ipod nano 3g ? 03.48.45 # no 03.48.50 # :(( 03.49.51 # all supported models are listed on the front page. The 2nd and 3rd generation Nanos do not share the common hardware of the iPods Rockbox does support - and on top of that their firmware is encrypted, and nobody @ Rockbox is working on that. 03.50.16 # i see 03.51.27 Quit amiconn (Nick collision from services.) 03.51.35 Join amiconn [50] (n=jens@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 03.53.39 Quit conando (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 03.54.16 Join ChristineTham [0] (n=cb39f143@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-5d1ef97d8dc1838a) 03.55.06 Quit hannesd (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 03.55.11 Quit MethoS-- (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 03.59.33 Quit DerDome ("Leaving.") 03.59.42 Quit ChristineTham ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)") 03.59.54 Quit Rob2222 () 04.04.11 Join jcollie_ [0] (n=jcollie@dsl-ppp239.isunet.net) 04.04.33 Join Alonea [0] (n=chatzill@69.92.201.36) 04.04.34 # stupid companies changing their stupid hardware. Making things difficult. 04.06.20 Join eigma [0] (i=eigma@216.48.162.210) 04.21.38 Join psycho_maniac [0] (i=psycho_m@ppp143.hk.centurytel.net) 04.22.24 Join Rob2222 [0] (n=Miranda@p54B1509C.dip.t-dialin.net) 04.26.04 Quit Nico_P (Remote closed the connection) 04.30.48 # I could assume but what does WVP stand for? 04.30.52 Part s0nix 04.31.34 # It's the progressbar 04.32.02 # i know but what does it have a meaning like WPS? while playing screen 04.32.19 # video 04.32.43 # W video P 04.33.02 # I thought it was WVS 04.33.16 # It's not like it matters. 04.33.57 # ah it is wvs i got the lettters mixed up. I just watned to know what it ment. i like to know stuff like this. 04.34.10 # I'd assume while video screen, or while viewing screen then 04.34.55 Join Lucifer [0] (n=satan@adsl-69-149-116-113.dsl.austtx.swbell.net) 04.35.04 # Thanks. 04.35.16 # so, is rockbox something that might run on a cheapo little trio? 04.35.18 Nick fxb is now known as fxb__ (n=felixbru@h1252615.stratoserver.net) 04.35.38 # Rockbox is something that only runs on the players listed at the website, unless you go through the effort of porting it. 04.36.03 # hmmm, I don't think I asked the question I really wanted the answer to ;/ 04.36.15 # lemme think about it some more 04.36.56 Quit JdGordon_ ("Konversation terminated!") 04.37.14 # ok, maybe I have it 04.37.29 # look on the buyers guide page. that will tell you what players do run on rockbox. 04.37.40 # is it worth trying to get rockbox to run on an mp3 player that's just a flash drive with a little controller that can decode mp3's? 04.37.55 # I already bought the thing, price was the determining factor, unfortunately :( 04.38.07 Quit Alonea ("ChatZilla 0.9.79 [Firefox 2.0.0.11/2007120410]") 04.38.46 # Lucifer: Whether it's worth it depends an awful lot on what else you can make the player do, and what shortcomings it has. Which thus depends a lot on the hardware inside it 04.39.08 # Whether it's worth it also depends even more on how much work it's going to mean to you, vs what you feel you'd gain 04.39.16 # it's a two-line lcd, there's just not much to it 04.39.29 # I'd gain ogg vorbis support :) 04.39.40 # how much was it? 04.39.45 # $30 04.40.01 # Lucifer: You'd only gain Ogg Vorbis support if the main CPU is fast enough, or the MP3 decoder is repogrammable. 04.40.01 Quit miepchen^schlaf (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 04.40.01 # with a $10 mail-in rebate that I need to remember to fill out 04.40.03 # And fast enough 04.40.30 Join miepchen^schlaf [0] (n=hihi@p54BF5F94.dip.t-dialin.net) 04.41.49 # so I guess I need to find out what's actually in it first, as you said originally :) 04.47.17 # yup 04.48.25 # ok, thanks a lot. :) 04.48.27 Part Lucifer ("Won't my momma be so proud of me!") 04.49.57 Quit Gnu47 (Nick collision from services.) 04.52.30 Join Gnu47 [0] (i=Gnu47@82.118.125.98) 05.04.50 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 05.11.26 Quit amiconn (Nick collision from services.) 05.11.34 Join amiconn [50] (n=jens@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 05.14.38 Quit amiconn (Nick collision from services.) 05.14.46 Join amiconn [50] (n=jens@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 05.16.54 Quit Jay_G ("Leaving.") 05.17.07 Join Jon-Kha [0] (i=jon-kha@80-248-247-190.cust.suomicom.fi) 05.20.12 Quit amiconn (Nick collision from services.) 05.20.16 Join amiconn_ [0] (n=jens@p54BD709D.dip.t-dialin.net) 05.30.48 Join SnippyCarcass [0] (n=chatzill@cpe-71-79-238-138.woh.res.rr.com) 05.31.37 # Does the current build of rockbox work with iPod firmware 1.2.3? 05.32.48 # as long as your device is listed on the front page, rockbox should work 05.33.18 # Alright, thanks. 05.34.29 Quit SnippyCarcass (Client Quit) 05.35.06 Quit gamepad () 05.39.36 Quit amiconn_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 05.43.06 Quit jcollie_ ("Ex-Chat") 05.46.21 Quit XavierGr (Read error: 101 (Network is unreachable)) 05.48.00 Quit psycho_maniac (" no comment") 05.53.49 Join ctaylorr [0] (n=ctaylorr@CPE001839ae25b4-CM0011aea4a276.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) 06.06.21 Join soccerbap [0] (n=chatzill@c-98-206-100-238.hsd1.il.comcast.net) 06.06.59 # hi 06.07.59 # Hi 06.08.40 # after reading the guide, faq, and searching the forums to no avail, I'm going to feel pretty stupid if this is a common problem 06.08.52 # mind if I explain? 06.09.07 # Well, I don't know much, as I just came here yesterday 06.09.13 # But, they said to just ask 06.09.20 # fair enough. 06.09.23 # Someone ought to get to it sooner or later. 06.09.42 # I have an ihp-140 06.10.08 # for whatever reason a few months ago it stopped being able to recognize files on the drive 06.10.23 # it can read the folder structure, but can not detect or play files 06.11.10 Quit desowin ("KVIrc 3.2.6 Anomalies http://www.kvirc.net/") 06.11.18 # for example 06.11.27 # I'll got into a folder called "A perfect circle" 06.11.29 # and it will be empty 06.12.00 # so my first thought was, maybe I'm having disk errors. I ran chkdsk with the /f and /x modifiers 06.12.21 # nothing 06.12.33 # sorry, minor correction 06.12.42 # soccerbap: Are you using Rockbox? 06.12.45 # it "fixed" a bunch of errors, but that was not the big deal 06.12.47 # yes llorean 06.12.52 # soccerbap: What "File View" mode are you in? 06.12.55 # http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=12098.0 06.13.07 # Yeah, that link said to change the file view too. 06.13.16 # View files, rather. 06.13.34 # I see 06.13.37 # a moment please 06.14.32 # looking for the setting 06.14.43 # :P 06.15.03 # wow 06.15.14 # Works? 06.15.22 # I feel REALLY dumb 06.15.27 # it does 06.15.29 # thank you 06.15.34 # maybe I'm not searching the forums correctly 06.15.45 # I'm so happy, I think I'll give back 06.15.50 # I just searched for empty folders 06.15.54 # ._. 06.15.54 # I'm going to sit in this channel till I can help some other poor sap with a problem. 06.15.58 # :) 06.16.23 # Yeah, I had problems yesterday. Turns out Rockbox's releases don't follow Apple' 06.16.27 # s releases 06.16.36 # (Damned enter key. ._.) 06.17.13 # And I got the wrong version, thinking that it was sorted 60G and then 30/80G 06.17.14 # :P 06.18.20 # hah 06.18.21 # nice. 06.19.23 # Ugh, I hate this version of mIRC, be right back. 06.19.28 Quit Tyroazard () 06.20.18 Join Tyroazard [0] (n=nnscript@pcd659119.netvigator.com) 06.20.49 # Am I connected? 06.20.51 # ._. 06.23.11 Part Tyroazard 06.23.11 Join Tyroazard [0] (n=nnscript@pcd659119.netvigator.com) 06.23.32 # Testing 123, this is TYR56 to ATC, do you copy? Over. 06.23.34 # Tyroazard: why dont you have a look at the irc logs on the site and see for yourself... 06.27.33 # Hmm.. USB mode worked yesterday.. 06.27.38 # What'd I do yesterday? 06.30.57 # Uhm, adding songs to my iPod just requires copying the file to the drive now, right? 06.34.04 # only if you don't care about listening in the OF too 06.34.13 # Hmm? 06.34.51 # you can still use itunes if you want to be able to listen on the apple firmware too, provided you use the rockbox database. 06.35.19 # if you don't care about the apple firmware, you can just copy it over using explorer or finder or whatever 06.35.25 # Alright 06.35.30 # And then use the database thing? 06.36.06 # Gah, my video converter can't convert to .mpeg 06.36.11 # you pretty much have to if you use itunes to sync music 06.36.21 # otherwise,it's up to you 06.36.27 # I have a .mpg and Rockbox refuses to play it 06.37.24 # you're sure it's mpeg1 or mpeg2 and of the proper size? 06.37.52 # Oh, it has to be the proper size? 06.37.56 # Well.. that kinda sucks. 06.38.48 # well, it can be larger, but it'll be cut off 06.39.02 # So can Rockbox read .mp4 files? 06.39.07 # no 06.39.24 # Yes, it can read mp4 files. Containing AAC streams. 06.39.28 # AHA! 06.39.31 # It can't read MP4 files containing video. 06.39.38 # I found the mpeg 2/1 conversion 06.39.41 # http://tuplanolla.kicks-ass.org/~jani/tiedostot/vlc.zip <-- there's a very nice videolan player batch script which will convert videos to the right format 06.39.44 # MP4 files are not a video format, they're just a container you can put various things in. 06.39.47 # i assumed video 06.39.54 # What should I convert it to? 06.40.00 # mpeg 1 or 2? 06.40.50 # convert it with the script i linked, it works at least on sansa :) 06.41.11 # if you have something else, you have to modify it a little bit 06.41.57 # Okay. 06.42.01 # And to get it to work? 06.42.02 # Wait 06.42.07 # I'll just open up the batch 06.42.12 # you need to have VLC player installed 06.42.18 # Ah 06.42.20 # I see. 06.42.25 # the drag'n'drop files on the script 06.42.32 # and it will do it for you. 06.42.32 # Yeah, I saw. 06.42.56 # but remember to modify the resolution 06.43.08 # Yep 06.43.29 # Where does the file come out? 06.43.59 # the same directory where the original file is 06.44.11 # Alright 06.44.14 # Thanks 06.44.20 # No problem ;) 06.44.30 # I kicked ass yesterday 06.44.32 # ._. 06.45.02 # Specifically, I kicked a user (Actually me connecting to the server twice) called Ass. 06.45.29 # lol 06.45.49 # So yeah, I kicked ass. 06.53.48 # Tyroazard: this is an on-topic channel...please help to keep it so 06.54.24 # Yeah. 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You guys really should have an off topic branch. ._. 06.54.44 # Tyroazard: and you should read the topic... 06.54.46 # ...erm...read the topic... 06.55.11 # Oh, that wasn't there yesterday. 06.55.16 # yes, it was 06.55.23 # it has been there for months 06.55.36 # My bad then. 06.55.58 # tyro 06.56.00 # thanks a ton 06.56.02 # gentlemen 06.56.04 # adieu 06.56.09 # *bows out* 06.56.17 Quit soccerbap ("ChatZilla 0.9.79 [Firefox 2.0.0.11/2007112718]") 06.56.19 # Happy New Yea- 06.56.24 # Aw. 06.59.38 Quit safetydan ("Leaving.") 07.04.52 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 07.13.08 Quit markun (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 07.13.41 Quit Reinhart (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 07.15.21 Join markun [50] (n=markun@rockbox/developer/markun) 07.17.05 Join Reinhart [0] (n=wizard@chime.student.utwente.nl) 07.20.29 Join JdGordon [0] (n=jonno@usw3662-s-207-244-148-63.dsl.w-link.net) 07.22.25 Join markun_ [50] (n=markun@rockbox/developer/markun) 07.22.27 Quit markun (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 07.35.12 # hey all 07.37.18 # Hello there. 07.42.05 Join homielowe [0] (n=chatzill@d207-81-67-190.bchsia.telus.net) 07.47.22 Join LinusN [0] (n=linus@rockbox/developer/LinusN) 07.52.43 Quit jhulst (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 07.58.00 Quit miepchen^schlaf (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 08.02.52 # * JdGordon gets angry at the gui code 08.05.09 Join Buschel [0] (n=AndreeBu@p54A3C664.dip.t-dialin.net) 08.11.56 Join Rob222241 [0] (n=Miranda@p54B14F75.dip.t-dialin.net) 08.14.30 # good morning ladies 08.14.38 Part toffe82 08.23.52 Nick S is now known as conando (n=john@dslb-084-060-170-250.pools.arcor-ip.net) 08.24.01 # mornin' 08.26.45 Quit J3TC- (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 08.30.22 Quit Rob2222 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 08.34.59 # morning 08.44.37 Quit Buschel () 08.45.03 Join Thundercloud [0] (n=thunderc@84-51-130-71.judith186.adsl.metronet.co.uk) 08.45.46 Join spiorf [0] (n=spiorf@host73-213-dynamic.20-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) 08.48.06 Join amiconn [50] (n=jens@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 08.48.56 Join Mathiasdm [0] (n=Mathias@d54C597B6.access.telenet.be) 08.50.35 Quit amiconn (Nick collision from services.) 08.50.44 Join amiconn [50] (n=jens@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 08.54.15 Join ender` [0] (i=krneki@84-255-206-8.static.t-2.net) 08.56.26 # morning amiconn, are you still planning on merging the various lcd bitmap drawing functions? 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10.49.01 # It's a development and support channel. It's quiet unless people have questions, or discussion is happening between devs. 10.49.56 # Llorean: do you know anyone who has upgraded the hard disk on a gigabeat x series? 10.50.27 # Llorean: forum troubles? 10.50.38 # petur: Yeah, they've come back. It's done this the last couple days 10.50.50 # And I made a typo while attempting to fix a post. :( 10.52.17 Join Vladoman [0] (n=vladimir@p4FC752DC.dip.t-dialin.net) 10.52.50 # ChristineTham: I think it's just a standard 1.8" ZIF connector drive 10.53.21 Part Vladoman ("Konversation terminated!") 10.53.30 # good. i just ordered a toshiba mk1011gah 10.53.35 # http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/HardDriveReplacement 10.53.51 # pixelma: I fixed LinusN's post to be a normal task link 10.54.50 # Llorean: heh, was going to do the same and then the forum failed :/ 10.55.12 # petur: thanks for the link. i was wondering whether anyone has done it for the gigabeat x and whether there are any gotchas. guess i'll find out when the hard disk arrives. 10.55.16 # Llorean: thanks, would have done it later (if I was able to) but thought maybe he could do it himself... :) 10.55.28 # petur: I was in the middle of doing it before the forum failed. I typed taks instead of task. When I attempted to save the "fix" it stopped responding. Apparently the fix got through though. 10.55.38 Join Vladoman [0] (n=vladimir@p4FC752DC.dip.t-dialin.net) 10.55.51 Part Vladoman 10.55.54 # ChristineTham: which HDD did you buy? and for which Gigabeat X? 10.56.03 # ChristineTham: There really *shouldn't* be any Gotchas in regards to a straight replacement of an HD with a larger capacity HD, as long as the physical dimensions match 10.56.17 # and the connector (ZIF) 10.56.27 Join faemir [0] (n=faemir@85-211-77-177.dyn.gotadsl.co.uk) 10.56.30 # markun: howdy. i bought the toshiba mk1011gah (100gb zif connector drive) - hoping to upgrade my x60 10.56.38 # markun_: I'd already specified it needed ZIF earlier. :) 10.56.39 # cool 10.56.59 # Llorean: sorry, just looked at a few hi-lighted lines :) 10.57.03 Quit faemir (Client Quit) 10.57.19 # * Llorean wonders what the Gigabeat S does when presented with an empty FAT32 formatted drive. 10.57.29 # * petur wonders when somebody will try those samsung 120GB drives with ata connector on an iriver :) 10.57.36 Join faemir [0] (n=faemir@85-211-77-177.dyn.gotadsl.co.uk) 10.57.37 # i don't know what to do with the original 60gb if everything is successful - i was hoping to use it on my laptop, but apparently it uses the 50 pin connector, and not zif :-) 10.57.57 # Laptops usually use 2.5" drives anyway 10.58.01 # ChristineTham: there are some cheap USB cases on ebay 10.58.11 # petur: are those easy to get? i'm thinking of buying one for my f40 10.58.29 # llorean: mine uses 1.8" (it's a fujitsu sub-notebook) 10.58.33 # petur: I certainly wouldn't mind an h1120 for recording. :) 10.58.46 # ChristineTham: there were some on ebay, but we're unsure they are compatible 10.59.08 Join Vladoman [0] (n=vladimir@p4FC752DC.dip.t-dialin.net) 10.59.26 # petur: i'm happy to give it a try, but i don't think ebay has it anymore 10.59.30 # * petur will go the h316 route for recording - no disk but CF 10.59.57 # ChristineTham: you could connect it externally to your laptop: http://cgi.ebay.com/USB-2-0-Hard-Drive-Enclosure-Case-for-1-8-ZIF-Drives_W0QQitemZ200188592536QQihZ010QQcategoryZ74949QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem 11.00.24 # petur: If the e200 had better recording capabilities, it'd make a better flash recorder wouldn't it? 8gb unit, with a pocket full if MicroSDHC cards? 11.01.02 # Llorean: yes, we need a new/better recording target :) 11.01.33 # petur: Though I *think* someone said it might be possible to get 44khz recording with the e200 if the hardware could be overclocked stably. 11.01.59 # were there no noise issues caused by the LCD refresh? 11.02.09 # I don't know if anyone's gotten that far with testing. 11.02.11 # Llorean: also depends on if it would record electrical noise... 11.02.42 # * petur doesn't like electrical noise and prefers good old rock :p 11.02.52 # markun: thanks for the link. very interesting. may buy one of those (but the shipping cost will be prohibitive 11.02.58 # Do they even make recording DAPs outside of things with either basic voice recorders, or a bit of radio recording? 11.03.18 # e.g. on my backlight moded Ondio I can hear the backlight in a recording, so I need to turn it off. Other than that it's a quite nice recording target even though I haven't used it for much yet :) 11.03.19 # Llorean: less and less sadly 11.03.37 # Llorean: have a look at the m-audio micro track 96/24 - it's based on a portalplayer chipset 11.03.53 # that's what i use to record concerts 11.04.51 # edirol also have a few models 11.04.58 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 11.05.17 # I figure my two h300 will be with me for a while ;) 11.05.26 # ChristineTham: you live in australia, right? 11.05.44 # Llorean: and I think it was jhMikeS who said that he could imagine to get at least 32kHz out of the Sansa for recording somehow 11.05.46 # markun: yes 11.05.47 Part Vladoman 11.07.08 # ChristineTham: this one is not so expensive to australia: http://cgi.ebay.com/1-8-Aluminum-ZIF-Connector-USB-HD-External-Case-BK316_W0QQitemZ370009727477QQihZ024QQcategoryZ41911QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem 11.08.45 # markun: thanks - clicking on "buy it now" 11.09.54 # :) 11.11.32 Nick markun_ is now known as markun (n=markun@rockbox/developer/markun) 11.12.25 # markun: i'll let you know in a few days if the upgrade is successful 11.14.14 # petur: What better recording target could there be than the iriver H1x0? It has line, mic, and s/pdif recording... 11.16.26 # I'm sure there's always room to upgrade the SNR and available sample rates on analog recording. 11.18.55 # gray_scroll.c: 931 lines -> grey_scroll.c: 351 lines :) 11.20.40 Join ipodhell [0] (n=dcf5b287@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-0a2e8ea4edc55143) 11.21.04 Quit Mathiasdm ("Yuuw!") 11.21.18 Join davina [0] (n=davina@cpc1-sout6-0-0-cust616.sotn.cable.ntl.com) 11.21.18 # amiconn: nice job! 11.21.21 # what about binsize? 11.21.33 Quit ChristineTham ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)") 11.21.39 # Could anyone kindly assist me with some issues (or, a single issue) I am having with the stable build of rockbox and a gen5 80 gig? 11.21.54 # the stable build? 11.22.00 # Don't know yet. One part is still to be converted (gray_draw.c) before I can start integrating & testing 11.22.40 # But binsize should be smaller as well, although not as much as source 11.22.47 # amiconn: a target that can be bought? 11.22.58 # There's always ebay... 11.23.05 # Bagder: I guess he means the official build 11.23.14 # This is the rockbox help channel right? 11.23.18 # ipodhell: it is 11.23.29 # Ok. 11.23.54 # amiconn: less and less. Most people at taperssection have ended the iriver period and look ahead. 11.24.04 # ipodhell: but mostly a lot of developers talk 11.25.35 # ipodhell: rule of thumb (and in the guidelines...) - just ask. You can't get any help if you don't state the problem, we aren't psychic... ;) 11.25.36 # petur: The cf based iaudios should work equally well (minus the s/pdif capability, but plus the ability to record at 88.2kHz). Not sure how readily available they are (I only monitored M3 availability, but not M5 or X5) 11.26.41 # Alright I'm just going to ask the question :P I have installed rockbox, everything is in .rockbox on the ipod drive and everything seems to be fine, except for one thing - the bootloader, no matter what I do the bootloader wont install, I have tried both the rockbox included version and the standalone patcher. One says the ipod is not found and to put it in discmode and the other just says not found 11.27.41 # Funny thing is, the ipod has a tick on it in discmode but then when I connect it it turns to a flashing cross, same goes for if I put it in discmode when its already connected etc. 11.28.01 # ipodhell: and are you sure it is a gen 5 Ipod, not a Classic? 11.28.09 # Its just odd that it says no ipod found for the bootlader yet everything else semt to install from the auto app 11.28.28 # I bought it 3 days ago, its a classic, but the most recent version 11.28.36 # plays video etc 11.28.41 # thats gen 5 isnt it? 11.29.20 # no 11.29.35 # *facepalm* 11.29.52 # So, could anyone kindly tell me what the latest 8-gig/video classic is called? 11.29.57 # 80* 11.30.15 # It's called classic 11.30.33 # Not video classic, not anything else. And it's 6th gen, not 5th or 5.5th 11.30.48 Join Casainho_ [0] (n=chatzill@bl8-167-78.dsl.telepac.pt) 11.31.13 # 6th gen? so theres not even a rockbox for it yet anyway? 11.31.55 # correct 11.32.20 # wow, 2 hours of screwing around for nothing.. cheers :) 11.32.39 # for comparison... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:20070913_iPod_5-6_Gen_artist_view_side-by-side.JPG 11.33.20 # left: the Classic, right: the Video (or 5th gen) 11.33.51 # That 5th gen is scratched.... 11.34.09 # So are there any alternatives for the 6th gen classic or am I screwed? 11.35.11 # the latter 11.35.14 # for now at least 11.39.30 Join waldo [0] (n=waldo@ip-81-11-222-49.dsl.scarlet.be) 11.43.09 # Ok, I found this http://www.tuaw.com/2007/09/15/6th-gen-ipods-wont-work-with-linux-winamp/ All makes sense now. Oh well, I guess I'm going to play the waiting game. I'm one of them idiot FOSS advocates that cant stand having proprietry software on anything but my mobile, It would have been really nice to check this out but I don't think I'm going to sell it off and roll-back just to use it *grin*.. 11.44.38 Quit Rob222241 () 11.48.35 Quit Casainho (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 11.51.15 Join MethoS- [0] (n=clemens@pD955D53E.dip.t-dialin.net) 11.56.49 # Bagder: are you there? 11.56.57 # yeps 11.57.43 # Bagder: what you think about the possibility that a company work with us to make a board? 11.57.44 Join DerDome [0] (n=DerDome@dslb-082-083-201-009.pools.arcor-ip.net) 11.58.12 # I'd say that's a slim chance, but what do I know? 11.59.35 # I listened to a talk from an openmoko guy 11.59.47 # he said FIC is interested in new interesting hw products... 12.00.12 # (makers of the Neo1973 etc) 12.00.16 # have you seen Olimex MOD-MP3 MP3 PLAYER MODULE? - http://www.olimex.com/dev/mod-mp3.html 12.01.17 # I don't like hw decoders much 12.01.20 # About FIC, I don't know... but If we at RB design and define an hardware, maybe It will open the possibility to someone build that to earn some cash 12.01.44 Quit davina (Remote closed the connection) 12.01.45 # FIC is a super-huge taiwanese hw manufacturer 12.02.30 # I also don't like hw decoders, nor them, I think - that would be good If they upgrade their boards for a new king of MP3 player, based on software decoder, in this case, Rockbox :-) 12.02.59 # sure 12.03.13 # how can I convince them and others?? - I would like to get help on that... 12.03.55 Join davina [0] (n=davina@cpc1-sout6-0-0-cust616.sotn.cable.ntl.com) 12.04.09 # also, do you know Makezine MP3 Daisy kit? - http://store.makezine.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=MKMP3KIT 12.04.22 # no... 12.05.08 # another hw decoder thing 12.05.20 # even using the same decoder chip family 12.06.47 # if you see, Makezine have a shop for DIY kits... they should be interested on a good DAP, to substitute that Daisy MP3.... 12.07.03 # but I am afraid of not know how to talk with them.... 12.07.07 # well, perhaps they just sell what others make 12.07.32 # hmmm... in what sense "what others make"?? 12.08.01 # well, If someone assembly that kits, we must find them :-) 12.08.48 Join davina_ [0] (n=davina@cpc1-sout6-0-0-cust616.sotn.cable.ntl.com) 12.08.55 # Bagder: you are an experienced man in this field, can't you help? 12.09.08 Quit davina (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 12.09.26 Join stewball [0] (n=WTFOMGBB@91.106.152.54) 12.10.13 # I'm not experienced in the field of trying to find companies who want to sell or manufacture mp3-players 12.10.37 # I thought you were :-) 12.10.45 # okok, I will make that!!! 12.10.55 # about Neo1973, OpenMoko 12.11.05 # yes? 12.11.30 # that hardware is much more than we need, expensive and not stable hardware, we can't control that :-( 12.11.37 # exactly 12.11.54 # but with already existing sw, a company that sells it and an existing community 12.12.11 Quit davina_ (Remote closed the connection) 12.12.38 # I think we should have a company working with us to have hardware for us! :-) 12.12.38 Quit ipodhell ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 12.13.45 # Rockbox can give legal problems because of codecs.... but can for sure give some money for who assembly and sell It... 12.13.45 # sure, that would be nice 12.14.13 Join davina [0] (n=davina@cpc1-sout6-0-0-cust616.sotn.cable.ntl.com) 12.14.35 # do you have any advice for next steps? 12.14.50 # I am lose... 12.14.53 # yes, don't put your hopes to a company doing this 12.15.03 # phone companies. Speak to them. 12.15.05 # settle for a hw design and use that build-your-own style 12.15.14 Quit davina (Client Quit) 12.15.31 # prove that the design works and that there's working software 12.15.47 # should put yourself in a better position when trying to convince companies 12.16.09 Quit Llorean (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 12.16.36 # I think the very reason you don't already see companies selling products like this is because companies don't see much value in doing so 12.16.54 # the idea isn't exactly new 12.18.06 # I understand 12.19.45 # but there is that companies that I said, like Olimex, that are selling... I believe I can convince them, maybe just after having a proving hardware + software 12.20.32 # GodEater: phone companies, Rockbox as application :-) 12.20.59 # Casainho_: No, I meant "call companies on the phone". Not talk to phone companies. 12.22.05 # GodEater: Ok :-) But I fell more secure talking at small ones that already assembly and sell online similar products... 12.22.11 Quit tedrock (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 12.22.23 Join phossy [0] (n=martin@212-139-94-216.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) 12.22.24 Join tedrock [0] (n=tedrock@d235-159-75.home1.cgocable.net) 12.22.58 # well you asked for advice on what to do. That's the advice I'm giving you. 12.23.32 # given that NONE of us in this channel to my knowledge work for such a company, nor have we ever approached one - you're completely on your own here. 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Tested on recorder so far 12.57.15 # Of course it's slower than the old graylib at low bit depths (cube.rock with solid is twice as slow - this used the old graylib with only 4 shades), but that's expected 12.57.18 # MrKeuner: when you enter the recording screen from the radio (via "recording" in the radio menu, the source seems to be set to radio automatically even though you can have it set differently in the global recording settings). I just checked because I haven't used it myself much yet... 12.57.57 # it doesn't seem to change the global settings just override them 12.59.29 # pixelma: are using sansa as well? It looks like the rec button doesn't work when rockbox is in radio mode 12.59.50 # I'm talking about an hardware button 13.01.08 Join aramil [0] (n=tony@ppp196-217.adsl.forthnet.gr) 13.01.23 # I have a c200 - and as I said from the radio you have to call the recording screen via the radio context menu (e200 manual says "long select") then chose the "recording" item 13.03.34 Quit Nico_P (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 13.03.48 # unfortunately the documentation is very sparse there... :\ 13.04.33 Quit ol_schoola_ () 13.04.59 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 13.06.18 Join Nico_P [50] (n=nicolas@rockbox/developer/NicoP) 13.07.31 Join Mathiasdm [0] (n=Mathias@vpnf045.ugent.be) 13.08.11 # Meh. Archos fire.rock would need 360 bytes more plugin ram than what is available :( 13.09.45 # amiconn: new graylib? 13.09.48 Join xushi_ [0] (n=xushi@unaffiliated/xushi) 13.09.57 # yes 13.10.35 # why? 13.11.52 # any advantages? 13.11.57 # The new lib needs less ram than the old one needed when that was set to 17 shades or more, but unlike the old one, the new lib cannot degrade gracefully 13.12.31 # Yes, more shades, faster, and needing less memory (compared to the old lib at 17 or more shades) 13.13.01 # The new greylib offers 129 shades, always 13.14.26 # i see 13.14.57 # and a white shade of pale ;) 13.15.00 # +r 13.15.11 Quit tvelocity (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 13.16.42 Quit xushi (Connection timed out) 13.17.18 Join lee-qid [0] (n=liqid@p54965980.dip.t-dialin.net) 13.17.21 # Plasma is ~30% faster _on archos_, even though the number of shades increased (~20 -> 129), and the new isr draws more cpu power (that's the tradeoff) 13.18.12 # (plasma couldn't use the maximum of 33 shades on archos with the old lib because that would not have fit the plugin ram) 13.18.41 # i only have the archos player :( 13.18.51 # LinusN: seen my comment almost 3h ago? ;) 13.19.35 # fire needs one too many buffers :/ 13.19.44 Join MethoS-- [0] (n=clemens@pD955E66D.dip.t-dialin.net) 13.20.20 Join pondlife [50] (n=Steve@rockbox/developer/pondlife) 13.21.21 # Nico_P: Any idea what went wrong with auto-folder advance when you made the playlist index consistent with the WPS? 13.21.27 # amiconn: well i guess it's not the "killer application" anyways... ;) 13.21.48 # No, but I don't like breaking stuff... 13.22.22 # It's ok to break stuff locally, just don't commit until you unbreak it too.. 13.22.23 # "collateral damage" ;P 13.23.53 # but how would you just free another 360 bytes "magically"? 13.24.55 # Perhaps by making the graphics slightly smaller than the screen 13.25.21 # (just for archos of course) 13.25.50 Quit MrKeuner ("Ex-Chat") 13.34.44 # pixelma: haha, oops 13.35.03 # that explains why it was reopened so many times 13.37.23 # pondlife: not really, no... 13.37.46 # OK, just wondered. 13.39.28 Nick fxb__ is now known as fxb (n=felixbru@h1252615.stratoserver.net) 13.40.52 Quit MethoS- (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 13.55.47 Join RaZorbacK [0] (n=Miranda@gar31-1-82-66-75-34.fbx.proxad.net) 13.56.23 Join j0tt [0] (n=j@unaffiliated/jott) 13.58.25 # to undo all changes in my source tree, it's svn revert -R. right ? 13.58.36 # don't seem to work ... 13.58.48 Join Arathis [0] (n=doerk@p508A460B.dip.t-dialin.net) 14.01.34 # a space between -R and . ? 14.01.45 # ho ok 14.01.47 # thx 14.06.16 Quit ctaylorr (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 14.06.45 Quit fasmaie (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 14.07.51 Quit jott (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 14.10.21 Join dave__ [0] (n=davina@cpc1-sout6-0-0-cust616.sotn.cable.ntl.com) 14.11.21 Quit dave__ (Client Quit) 14.11.53 Join davina [0] (n=davina@cpc1-sout6-0-0-cust616.sotn.cable.ntl.com) 14.19.27 Quit MethoS-- (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 14.20.56 Join Frazz [0] (n=Fraser@thelawsons.plus.com) 14.22.25 Join DerPapst [0] (n=DerPapst@p5B23CB4E.dip.t-dialin.net) 14.22.35 Quit lee-qid ("aufwiederbyebientotsayonara") 14.23.36 Join kugel [0] (i=kugel@unaffiliated/kugel) 14.25.51 # meh 14.26.10 # Why does arm allocate 4 bytes for a struct that only contains 2 char members? 14.26.23 Join peppo [0] (n=slumpmas@c-a170e155.41-4-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) 14.26.25 # padding? 14.26.28 # * amiconn needs __attribute__((packed)) just for arm now :/ 14.26.44 # with recent firmwares on my ipod video 80gb, I get runaway NEXT-skipping, when using a .m3u8 playlist and random 14.29.17 # has the #6240 patch already been commited ? 14.29.38 Join freqmod [0] (n=freqmod@225.84-48-78.nextgentel.com) 14.31.18 # Wow, turboplasma on ipod mini :) 14.32.24 # And jpegs look great without the visible banding of the old graylib :D 14.32.36 Quit freqmod (Remote closed the connection) 14.35.12 # nie 14.35.13 # nice 14.36.28 Join DrMoos [0] (i=moos@m237.net81-66-159.noos.fr) 14.36.30 Join ol_schoola [0] (n=meatwad@c-67-167-20-91.hsd1.il.comcast.net) 14.36.34 Join webguest21 [0] (n=56401152@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-a00f99d43c26a7f2) 14.36.54 Quit webguest21 (Client Quit) 14.37.21 Quit moos (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 14.37.26 # Now the plugins left to adapt are doom, mpegplayer, and zxbox 14.38.14 # And the fire.rock fix for archos. Then the first version could be committed 14.39.44 # is there a changelog on the website? 14.41.06 # yes. Did you look? 14.41.22 # yes 14.41.35 Join MethoS-- [0] (n=clemens@pD955E86B.dip.t-dialin.net) 14.41.44 # ah there, behind dev.cgi? 14.41.53 # http://www.rockbox.org/recent.shtml#svn 14.42.08 # thanks 14.42.09 # http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/MajorChanges 14.43.42 # okay, wasn't able to find anything that should be related to ipod video next going crazy and skipping song after song... 14.43.59 # also, I've yet again suffered from having more than one entry of every identical file (non .Trash related) 14.44.08 # I now have 4 duplicate entries with each album in the database 14.45.16 Quit Lear ("ChatZilla 0.9.79 [Firefox 3.0b3pre/2007123005]") 14.45.19 Quit m0f0x (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 14.45.59 # pondlife: I was wrong to say the change was in svn... it was in the git branch. the revert commit is this one: http://repo.or.cz/w/Rockbox.git?a=commitdiff;h=03b43e108be519f6fdffeb83c923a65fba292a50 14.46.21 # I'm going to try to make it work with auto folder advance 14.46.48 # Good luck 14.46.54 Join Metho---- [0] (n=clemens@pD955CB4F.dip.t-dialin.net) 14.46.56 # * peppo upgrades to latest rockbox.zip, and deletes all .tcds again 14.46.59 # df 14.47.31 # a hack I can think of is to call playlist_next in audio_check_new_track when the playlist is on its last track 14.48.25 Join m0f0x [0] (n=m0f0x@189-47-16-102.dsl.telesp.net.br) 14.51.04 Join webguest00 [0] (n=56401152@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-54384f78bdb7a1ec) 14.51.23 # Hello, there is a broken link in this web page http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/UsefulSansae200Tools 14.52.08 # where? 14.52.26 # well the 2 links are inverted 14.52.41 # ah I see 14.52.54 # for the programs 14.53.29 # fixed 14.53.37 # nice ! 14.54.27 # bye bye 14.54.29 Quit webguest00 (Client Quit) 14.54.39 Quit peppo (Remote closed the connection) 14.56.35 Quit ein1 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 15.00.32 Quit amiconn (" reboot") 15.00.40 Join ein1 [0] (n=Alex@shell1.neessen.net) 15.02.20 Quit aramil (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 15.03.47 Join aramil [0] (n=tony@ppp126-161.adsl.forthnet.gr) 15.04.25 Join amiconn [50] (n=jens@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 15.05.00 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 15.10.06 Quit MethoS-- (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 15.13.46 # http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20080104-lone-holdout-in-drmed-music-recommends-drm-circumvention.html <-- worth a read for giggles 15.16.59 # isn't that a problem regardless of DRM because ipods do not play WMA? 15.17.44 # or do they play WMA, just not the ones with DRM? 15.17.52 # * petur also saw http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/01/04/apple_itunes_wma_antitrust/ 15.24.38 # good question - don't know! 15.26.48 # seems not 15.32.35 Join LambdaCalculus37 [0] (n=44a0430f@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-11fd1fc5dd50b102) 15.34.20 Join Fraser [0] (n=Fraser@thelawsons.plus.com) 15.35.37 # * GodEater posts a comment to the register story - pointing out the problems with it. 15.40.34 Quit Zom (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 15.41.19 # nope... iPods cannot play wma (without rockbox ofcourse :-P) but iTunes offers to reencode wma to an iPod-friendly format ^^ 15.41.49 # Silliest lawsuit I've heard in a VERY long time. 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So i'd say these values fit for the h300 as well. but you can make some test videos and experiment a bit with these values. 16.36.18 Quit xushi_ () 16.49.13 Quit jcollie ("Ex-Chat") 16.49.24 Quit pixelma (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 16.49.36 Quit krazykit ("leaving") 16.50.07 # pondlife: I have a patch 16.50.59 # Pop it on FS? I'm a bit squished at the mo. 16.51.40 # ok 16.52.11 # I haven't tested to see if it fixes the actual reported bug, but it should 16.52.37 # btw LLorean: thanks for tipping me of in direction of i-frame only mpeg2.. works great if you require high quality video (and trade it for much lower compression) so i won't have to try to implement something like an mjpeg player myself ;) 16.52.44 # Should also help the playlist viewer, right? 16.53.08 # And any other bit of UI that might have been a little out of sync.. 16.53.10 # pondlife: yes. the playlist is only updated once the track has actually changed (at the end of the transition) 16.53.20 # Cool 16.55.03 Join Thundercloud_ [0] (n=thunderc@84-51-130-71.judith186.adsl.metronet.co.uk) 16.58.00 Join jgarvey [0] (n=jgarvey@cpe-024-163-032-204.nc.res.rr.com) 17.01.17 # Nico_P: Pity we can't get rid of those messy playback state variables (automatic_skip, new_playlist etc.).. 17.02.06 # I'm sure there must be some way that all the special cases come out in the wash. 17.03.31 # that would be nice, yeah. 17.04.04 # It's one of those bits of code I've attacked but never had the guts to fix up as I don't know if I understand it all. 17.04.18 Join YippMN [0] (n=dwayne@mn-71-55-154-216.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) 17.05.01 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 17.05.24 # I've been thinking of trying to make the playback engine use a state machine approach, but haven't had time and courage do do much yet 17.05.51 # Crossfade/gapless is the tricky bit, IIUC. 17.05.58 # I need to look at jhMikeS' mpegplayer code for inspiration 17.05.58 Quit Mathiasdm (Connection timed out) 17.05.59 # yeah 17.06.18 # Maybe we can implement video crossfade ;) 17.06.23 # I don't completely understand how those work 17.07.12 # but from what I gather, they're not really part of the playback engine, but rather the PCM layer 17.08.04 # i put a couple mpg's on my sansa e260 , and when i play them the audio is going way fast and the peple sound like chipmunks , did i miss somthing or do i have to redo the mpgs somehow? 17.09.49 # YippMN: did you resample/encode the audio at exactly 44100kHz? 17.09.52 Join Jay_G [0] (n=George@c-69-143-160-22.hsd1.va.comcast.net) 17.10.46 # conando, hmm nope just used them from a friends didgital camera hmm , mite have to take a look 17.11.10 # now to figure out the simplest way to do that :) 17.11.45 Quit Thundercloud (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 17.12.48 # you can use a vlc script 17.12.57 Join Rob2222 [0] (n=Miranda@p54B14F75.dip.t-dialin.net) 17.13.05 # i would suppose a good video editor would work hmm? 17.13.38 Quit aramil ("Αποχώρησε") 17.13.52 # hm you would have to encode from it's output to a compatible mpeg2.. or if the video editor exports directly to mpeg2 and lets you choose the exact resolution, bitrate etc. than it's fine too 17.14.16 # 4.01 07:40:42 < Tuplanolla> http://tuplanolla.kicks-ass.org/~jani/tiedostot/vlc.zip <-- there's a very nice videolan player batch script which will convert videos to the right format 17.15.29 Join jcollie [0] (n=jcollie@161.210.6.204) 17.16.23 # trying to think with what i have for programs what i could use just to lokk see what the file is if its mpeg2 and what the audio is hmm 17.17.04 Quit m0f0x (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 17.17.12 Quit guest08 ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 17.17.35 # hm are you on windows or linux? 17.17.46 # linux running gentoo 17.17.50 # i'd install videolan client (vlc - from vlc.org) .. 17.17.51 # and kde 17.18.07 # or try mplayer.. perhaps you even have it installed already 17.18.22 # yes i have mplayer just looking at kmplayer right now 17.18.42 # it outputs quite detailed information about the file/streams into the console window you started it from 17.19.11 # ah ok.. dunno about kmplayer.. i guess it's a kde mplayer frontend/gui 17.19.12 # ? 17.19.17 # yup 17.19.25 Quit Frazz ("Leaving") 17.19.52 # perhaps it has a "stream information" or similar menu entry/button hidden somewhere 17.20.06 # hmm kmplayer does have a console window you can open looks like all the detilas there 17.20.12 # details 17.20.19 Quit DrMoos (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 17.20.44 # then it should give you all you need.. resolution, bitrate.. audio bitrate/channels etc. 17.21.24 # ahh yess audio bitrate is 32000 it seems :) 17.21.53 # so that's the problem.. if you resample/encode it with 44100 it should work fine ;) 17.22.54 # what i haven't been able to figure out is why the colors in the vid are goofy , the yellow piper cub is purple, grass is red, sky is green hmmm :) 17.23.51 # yeah well this is a new project for me too , to learn video editing , to move vhs stuff ans vids like this to dvd not sure what i would use to resample/encode hmm 17.23.53 # hm that's strange.. and when playing it back on your pc everything looks fine? 17.24.14 # no thats playing it on my machine in kmplayer 17.24.32 # perhaps you encoded the mpeg file with a wrong color space... 17.24.42 Quit Thundercloud_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 17.24.53 # ah.. but the original looks fine? what do you use to encode? 17.25.25 # yes it looks fine in xine and on rockbox , just audio on rockbox is fast 17.25.57 # didn't encode it , my friends didgital still camera makes mpg in video mode 17.26.20 # guess i need to test some mpgs other than that 17.26.36 # guess i'm probly getting away from topic here hehe 17.26.48 # yes :) 17.27.11 # but i guess the channel police is currently asleep or afk :P 17.31.54 # hmm i'm stumped , can't seem to find out anyhting on mpg resampling/encodeing hmm 17.39.26 # can i play .wmv on rockbox? 17.39.51 # no 17.40.05 # you'd have to convert to mpeg 1/2 first 17.40.30 # hmm yeah i guessaudio is at 20000 hmm ok :) 17.40.41 # have you not looked at the mpegplayer wiki page ? 17.40.44 # yeah just though that as i spoke :) 17.40.55 # there's recommended ways to convert you movies right there 17.41.18 # ahh ok no i haven't is that on the rockbox site then 17.41.21 # or a link 17.41.31 # go to the wiki link 17.41.48 # ok 17.42.13 # http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/PluginMpegplayer 17.42.42 # yup thee now :) 17.42.44 # there 17.44.21 Quit phossy ("Ex-Chat") 17.49.02 Quit kugel ("ChatZilla 0.9.79 [Firefox 2.0.0.11/2007112718]") 17.49.35 Join PaulJam [0] (n=pauljam@p54BCCBD3.dip.t-dialin.net) 17.50.52 # hi, is there currently a known problem with the list code that when you go back in alist it can happen that the cursor and the list items are offf screen? 17.53.37 Join lassesdatamaskin [0] (n=sindre@165.80-202-81.nextgentel.com) 17.55.05 Quit lassesdatamaskin (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 17.56.16 Quit MethoS-- (Remote closed the connection) 17.56.19 Join Defense [0] (n=45d6f10a@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-a07e13c9971092b9) 17.56.49 # Hello 17.57.52 Nick Defense is now known as defender (n=45d6f10a@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-a07e13c9971092b9) 17.58.23 Nick defender is now known as GermX (n=45d6f10a@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-a07e13c9971092b9) 17.59.28 Quit PaulJam (".") 18.00.35 Join rstory [0] (n=myob@vb.futz.org) 18.02.30 Join Mathiasdm [0] (n=Mathias@d54C597B6.access.telenet.be) 18.03.32 Join lassesdatamaskin [0] (n=sindre@165.80-202-81.nextgentel.com) 18.07.11 # [18:06] w00t new hd for my h140 (now h160) seems to work :P 18.08.28 # Congratulations 18.10.00 # finally i can use my dap again 18.10.14 # now to keep myself from dropping it again ;) 18.10.32 # heh 18.12.18 Part RaZorbacK 18.12.29 Join Arathis2 [0] (n=doerk@p508A47E3.dip.t-dialin.net) 18.13.45 Quit YippMN ("Leaving") 18.14.33 Quit Arathis (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 18.15.09 Join JdGordon [0] (n=jonno@usw3662-s-207-244-148-63.dsl.w-link.net) 18.17.43 Quit courtc (Remote closed the connection) 18.17.50 # Hey guys, I just set up rockbox on my iHP-120, and now I'm overwhelmed by the number of sound options available. Can someone give me some advice as to how to best set it up? 18.18.10 Join Buschel [0] (n=AndreeBu@p54A3FD23.dip.t-dialin.net) 18.23.02 Join waldo [0] (n=waldo@ip-81-11-222-49.dsl.scarlet.be) 18.23.50 Join salty-horse [0] (n=ori@pdpc/supporter/active/salty-horse) 18.25.07 Quit faemir (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 18.28.27 # GermX: Well, that depends on a few factors. 18.29.28 # Your headphones/earbuds, what you're listening to, and what codecs you're using are some of the factors. 18.30.30 # is svn's jethead71 around? 18.32.21 Quit Mathiasdm ("Yuuw!") 18.32.27 # http://svn.rockbox.org/viewvc.cgi/trunk/?view=rev&revision=15854 -- what does this mean? "Codec API becomes incompatible so full updates!" 18.33.59 # salty-horse: it means codecs for older builds will no longer work. 18.35.10 # LambdaCalculus37: I would say the most important factor is "what you like the sound of" too 18.35.17 # no-one else can tell you that 18.35.29 # I'm using Grado SR-60s and/or Koss KSC-75s, listening mostly to rock/alt-rock, LAME 3.97 or aotuv b5 18.35.45 # I understand that, but there's so many damn options, I don't even know where to start :P 18.36.53 # start with the first one? 18.36.55 # ;-) 18.36.57 # jhMikeS, how do I rebuild the codecs? 18.37.02 # * GodEater doesn't fiddle with any of the audio options at all, and likes the way Rockbox sounds just fine. 18.37.38 # jhMikeS, specifically, that revision causes my sansa to crash on playback. I tried rebuilding everything (make clean; ../tools/configure; make) 18.37.39 # salty-horse: just 'make'. 18.37.53 # Also, is there a quick way to save sound configs so you can toggle between them 18.37.59 # for ABXing 18.38.17 # yes, just save your entire config 18.38.39 Join Zom [0] (n=zom@h-182-168.A166.cust.bahnhof.se) 18.39.23 # salty-horse: I guess make sure to "make zip" and extract that too. I can't see any other reason for a problem there since it's just a recording change. 18.39.24 Join courtc [0] (n=court@c-24-99-230-218.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) 18.39.57 # jhMikeS, I always install by "make zip" and unzipping with file replacement. still no good 18.40.20 # i'll try a compiled version from rockbox.org 18.40.32 # have you tried resetting settings? 18.41.03 Join Thundercloud_ [0] (n=thunderc@84-51-130-71.judith186.adsl.metronet.co.uk) 18.41.10 # Is there a way to change the information/logo that's shown on boot up? 18.42.33 Join m0f0x [0] (n=m0f0x@189-47-59-217.dsl.telesp.net.br) 18.43.29 # jhMikeS, yes. replaced .rockbox entirely ---- ok, it's a problem with my build system. the build from rockbox.org works fine 18.44.43 Quit pondlife ("Leaving.") 18.49.32 Quit Nico_P (Remote closed the connection) 18.55.56 Join moos [0] (i=moos@m237.net81-66-159.noos.fr) 18.56.26 # hi.. i just converted my 3rd gen ipod from hfs to fat32 and installed rockbox (via linux). When it reboots after running ipodpatcher, it fails with "data abort at 00045b8c (0)"... 18.57.25 Join MethoS- [0] (n=clemens@pD955C282.dip.t-dialin.net) 18.57.56 Quit courtc (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 19.01.26 Join merbanan [0] (n=banan@83.233.242.168) 19.01.41 Join courtc [0] (n=court@c-24-99-230-218.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) 19.02.25 # tried again, and this time I get 'undefined instruction'... 19.02.25 Join miepchen^schlaf [0] (n=hihi@p54BF5F94.dip.t-dialin.net) 19.04.16 # bye bye 19.04.22 Quit Casainho_ ("ChatZilla 0.9.79 [Firefox 2.0.0.11/2007112718]") 19.05.04 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 19.06.02 Quit BigBambi (Remote closed the connection) 19.08.36 Join countrymonkeyweb [0] (n=4b05639a@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-50b5c89e23f8660d) 19.08.40 # hmmmmm 19.09.43 # I feel that fs#8132 is an important patch. It decreases the size of the .lng files allowing more buffir space for music. Is there a chance of this being committed? 19.13.36 # countrymonkeyweb, don't forget you can delete most .lng files anyway 19.15.41 # This patch doesn't make sense. The incomplete .lang files need updating 19.15.41 # for the people that use those translations (doubtful but possible) 19.17.07 # Aren't the extra strings clutter? 19.18.25 # No, why? 19.19.01 # Because for the people that use the translations, you could add an extra kilobyte or 2 to music playback space. 19.19.11 # YOu can't 19.19.17 # The buffer is static 19.19.52 # It is? I thought it moved to fit the translations. 19.20.36 Quit m0f0x (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 19.20.36 # The buffer is statically allocated. It has to be, otherwise you couldn't load a .lng file at runtime without reboot 19.20.56 # I get it. 19.21.01 # Many buffers in rockbox are statically allocated. Rockbox has no malloc(), that's by design 19.21.30 # ok. Got to go. 19.21.42 # countrymonkeyweb: practically you wouldn't benefit from an extra 2kB at all 19.21.48 Quit countrymonkeyweb ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 19.26.04 Quit GermX ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 19.28.29 Join m0f0x [0] (n=m0f0x@189-47-74-249.dsl.telesp.net.br) 19.31.06 # The greyscale lib is slower than I thought on coldfire :\ 19.34.40 Quit japc (Remote closed the connection) 19.34.41 Join obo [0] (n=obo@rockbox/developer/obo) 19.36.12 Quit mirak ("Ex-Chat") 19.39.12 Join stavromulla [0] (n=521422a4@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-03b9061f87a9856c) 19.39.48 # hello, anybody round with experience on the sansadisk e280? 19.40.46 # stavromulla: go ahead and ask your question 19.41.08 # I'm trying to do recovery mode after a failed installation /deinstallation of rockbox 19.41.25 # and my sandisk shows lun0 locked when I go into recovery mode on my mac 19.41.29 # works ok on a pc 19.41.39 Join floele [0] (i=Miranda@p3EE26763.dip.t-dialin.net) 19.42.53 # and it doesnt work on a mac with the messages?...i have seen those messages many times before and they do not indicate that recovery mode is not working 19.43.15 # well, it doesn'T show up on my finder as the 16mb USB 19.43.27 # it doesn'T mount on the mac, whereas it mounts on a PC ok. 19.44.16 # does it just not automount, or can you not manually mount it as well? 19.44.28 # aha! good info, how do you manually mount it? 19.45.19 # I'm not that well versed in these things..(as you might have guessed ;-)) 19.48.21 Join rconan [0] (n=richard@client-82-3-229-44.glfd.adsl.virgin.net) 19.49.18 # should i still be able to load rockbox using the ipodloader2 from ipodlinux.org on a 3g ipod? 19.50.04 # hi everyone. I have a problem with my rockbox on Ipod 5.5. The playback of in particular higher bitrate files (FLAC) is "skippy", but not all the time. It often happens if rockbox continues playback on startup, and only seems to happen very rarely after it has been playing for a while. The reason seems to be a lot of hard disc activity (which continues for a couple of minutes even when I pause the current track, you can hear the disc working), 19.50.04 # is doing at that time. database autoupdate is turned off, and it doesn't make a difference if I set the anti-skip buffer to 15 instead of 5 seconds. 19.50.17 # i get an error message saying "Undefined instruction at 00046494 (0)" although I don't know if it's rockbox or ipodloader2 which is doing that 19.50.19 Join bertrik [0] (n=Bertrik_@156-022-045-062.dynamic.caiway.nl) 19.50.31 # @scorchelw: I can see it in recovery mode in Utility disk. I'll try to work from there 19.51.21 # rconan: ipl's bootloader is unsupported here 19.51.54 # rconan: you can test to see if it is rockbox or ipl's bootloader by installing our own and seeing if you have the same issues 19.51.57 # scorchelw: as I've said, I can see it in the disk utility, but cannot mount it (the icon is gray) 19.52.34 # stavromulla: i dont really know what that means, as i dont work on macs...perhaps google might be able to help you better on this? 19.52.41 # aoh, I see, sorry 19.52.47 # I am googling as we speak! 19.52.53 # thanks anyway! 19.55.14 Part stavromulla 19.55.59 Join JdGordon|w [0] (n=836b0048@gateway/web/cgi-irc/ircatwork.com/x-4c19b00e663500ea) 19.56.36 # scorche|w, i ran ipodpatcher on it and now it doesn't boot at all 19.57.24 Join BigBambi [0] (n=alex@rockbox/staff/BigBambi) 19.58.32 # ok... sticking an original firmware on there then running ipodpatcher made it boot... still the same error with the rockbox bootloader 19.58.48 Join ralph [0] (n=eatshit@70.166.151.155) 19.58.55 # rconan: what version of rockbox are you running? 19.59.13 # current build 19.59.54 Quit ralph (Client Quit) 20.00.05 # what version exactly? 20.00.30 Join Schnueff [0] (n=mah@88.134.59.235) 20.01.13 # floele: Do you have a 30GB iPod video, or an 80GB? 20.01.26 # 80GB 20.01.51 Quit salty-horse ("Leaving") 20.02.16 # floele 20.02.19 # Oops. 20.02.38 # floele: I raised my anti-skip buffer to 3 mintues. Try higher settings on yours. 20.03.13 Join pixelma [0] (i=pixelma@212.204.47.129) 20.03.28 # And that's strange that FLAC files skip on you. I have half the RAM (32MB on 30GB vs. 64 on 60/80GB) and never had skip issues with FLAC files. 20.03.38 # well, I don't want to diagnose my problem too much without knowing anything, but I am quite sure that the unnecessary (?) high disc activity is the reason 20.03.42 Quit Buschel () 20.03.55 # which stops after a while 20.03.58 # scorche|w, r15994 20.04.01 # and then it runs fine 20.04.08 Quit miepchen^schlaf ("Verlassend") 20.04.08 # floele: What SVN build do you have? 20.04.21 # a couple of days ago, do you need the exact version? 20.04.23 # rconan: the whole thing please?...it makes it easier 20.04.42 Join petur [50] (n=petur@rockbox/developer/petur) 20.05.00 # floele: Please. Go to System > Rockbox Info and read it from there. 20.05.07 # scorche|w, what more version information is there? 20.05.43 # r15980-071230 20.05.53 # scorche|w, oh... found it: r15994-080103 20.06.17 # floele: Update your build and try to play a FLAC file again. 20.06.34 # sure, I'll try. 20.13.07 Join Sammienator [0] (n=stbouwer@a200098.upc-a.chello.nl) 20.13.50 # rstory: still around? Just read the logs and you reported problems on your 3rd gen Ipod? Unfortunately this is the current situation with some builds, try some of the archived daily builds 20.14.07 # LambdaCalculus37: done, same problem. as soon as I started the track, rockbox doesn't stop reading from the disc, and causes skips 20.15.35 # even the pause button doesn't work correctly. it fades out, but then continues playing... 20.15.41 # witn full volumne 20.16.04 # floele: So I guess you've got Fade on Stop/Pause turned on, correct? 20.16.05 # not working correctly during such a "skip phase". usually it works. 20.16.11 # right 20.16.32 # Try turning it off and see if it continues. 20.18.38 # LambdaCalculus37: no improvement. 20.19.20 # floele: Let me see if I can reproduce it on my iPod. 20.19.34 Nick Arathis2 is now known as Arathis (n=doerk@p508A47E3.dip.t-dialin.net) 20.22.00 # scorche|w, any thoughts as to the problem? 20.22.07 # floele: This is very strange indeed. I can't reproduce the problem you're having. 20.22.32 # I started playing a Q8 FLAC, stopped playback, shut down and restart, and resumed playback. 20.22.37 # rconan: you have a 3rd gen Ipod tpp? 20.22.41 # *too 20.22.51 # The disk spun down after 5 seconds... just like I have it set to do. 20.22.51 # pixelma, yes 20.23.18 # LambdaCalculus37: that would have been too easy ;) 20.23.46 # rconan: currently some builds are broken on the older Ipods (1st - 3rd gen). You could try some of the archived 20.27.37 Join toffe82 [0] (n=chatzill@adsl-75-23-148-5.dsl.frs2ca.sbcglobal.net) 20.27.54 Quit MethoS- (Remote closed the connection) 20.28.18 Join MethoS- [0] (n=clemens@pD955C282.dip.t-dialin.net) 20.28.44 # The greyscale lib might not be as fast as I'd thought it would be, but otherwise it works great :) 20.29.08 # floele: It would've been. ;) 20.29.18 # Now you can play doom on h1x0 or greyscale ipods and actually recognise things (and enemies) 20.29.52 # LambdaCalculus37: I just tried to change the theme. switched from slant to icatcher and it seems to work. might album arts be a problem? migght rockbox search all existing directories for such files (without the need to)? 20.30.42 # floele: Maybe, but I'm use Cabbie 2.0 with album art and I have no problems. 20.30.58 # But yes, album art may be causing problems. 20.31.14 # well...the problem is that there are virtually no fancy themes for rockbox. so my choice is rather limited 20.31.37 Join faemir [0] (n=daniel@85-211-77-177.dyn.gotadsl.co.uk) 20.32.14 # floele: You can try Cabbie 2.0 out. :) 20.32.26 # hm, where do I find it? 20.32.35 # I always get lost at rockbox.org :-\ 20.33.05 # floele: Hang on a sec. 20.33.11 # rockbox-themes.org doesn't have it 20.33.18 # pixelma, seems to be a problem between 15984 and 15988 20.34.17 # There's a general problem on PP5002 targets (ipod 1st..3rd gen). Some builds work, some don't 20.34.26 # floele: Here ya go: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/viewfile/Main/WpsIpod5g?rev=6;filename=cabbiedefipodvid.zip 20.34.41 # screenshot as well? 20.35.01 # This has nothing to do with what was changed in that build, but just depends on the fact that *something* changed and moved stuff around in memory 20.35.19 # Unfortunately we don't know yet why that happens 20.36.00 # The good thing is that a build either works, or crashes almost instantly. Nothing inbetween 20.36.19 # amiconn, wierd 20.38.31 # rconan: so 15984 works for your 3g? 20.38.46 # LambdaCalculus37: the theme "cabbie default" doesn't show the album art 20.38.50 # floele: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/pub/Main/WpsIpod5g/cabbieipodaa.png and http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/pub/Main/WpsIpod5g/cabbieipodmenu.png 20.38.54 # are there special requirements? 20.39.16 # floele: How are your album cover files named? 20.39.25 # cover.bmp 20.39.55 # hrmm 20.39.56 # Same here. 20.39.57 # rstory, yes 20.40.09 Join ompaul [0] (n=ompaul@gnewsense/friend/ompaul) 20.40.15 # floele: 100x100 size? 20.40.53 # LambdaCalculus37: it does show it....but in opposite to slant it doesn't use parent directories' covers 20.41.01 Join Simsgy [0] (n=chatzill@89.1.79.41.dynamic.barak-online.net) 20.41.04 # woot! mine too.. 20.41.04 # only what's in the same dir 20.41.10 # Hey guys 20.41.21 # floele: Ahh. Should've told me that sooner. :) 20.41.40 # Does RockBox support Nano 3G? 20.41.43 # So rearrange the cover.bmp files so that they're in the same folder as their respective albums. 20.41.52 # -_- 20.42.03 Quit bertrik ("bye") 20.42.06 Join miepchen^schlaf [0] (n=hihi@p54BF5CD6.dip.t-dialin.net) 20.42.10 # Simsgy: If I had a nickel for everytime someone asked that, I'd retire to Tahiti right now, a very rich man. 20.42.16 # LOL 20.42.32 # I'm guessing that's a no 20.42.50 # By the way, what's a 'Frame Work ID'? 20.42.51 # LambdaCalculus37: one more thing...the screenshot looks different to my theme. the progress bar is not yellow but white, and there is no "now playing" bar at the top 20.43.07 # and rockbox is on the right, not bottom left 20.43.42 # floele: Sounds like it either didn't load correctly, or you probably unzipped it incorrectly. 20.43.52 # What do you use to unzip files? 20.44.00 # izarc 20.44.10 # floele: http://www.7-zip.org 20.44.19 # Get 7-Zip instead. Works much, much better. 20.44.20 # so what does izarc do wrong? 20.44.45 # izarc probably didn't keep the correct folder structure of the WPS zip file when it extracted. 20.44.59 # hrmm.. 20.45.05 # But trust me, 7-Zip is much easier to work with. 20.45.07 # works fine for all other tasks ;) 20.46.22 Join scorche|xo [0] (n=urk@rockbox/administrator/scorche) 20.47.11 # LambdaCalculus37: I'll try now, let's see... 20.47.44 # LambdaCalculus37: is it on purpose, that a theme can decide how rockbock searches for album art? 20.47.56 # and shouldn't it be a low priority task then? 20.49.15 # floele: Here's the AlbumArt page on the wiki: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/WpsGallery?topic=AlbumArt 20.50.22 # yep, I know 20.50.40 # "he pictures can be stored in the same directory (.) as the track or in the parent directory (..). " 20.51.18 # apparently, the parent directory doesn't matter in your theme, and seems to be matter way too much in slant 20.52.08 # and erm, 7-zip didn't make a difference here. still different from the screenshot 20.52.47 # either of them (screenshot or zip file) must be outdated, just want to make sure that it's the screenshot ;) 20.55.45 # LambdaCalculus37: although the screenshot looks somewhat better 20.58.27 Join GodEater_ [0] (n=vircuser@rockbox/staff/GodEater) 20.58.35 # floele: This may be a long shot, but try clearing your settings on your iPod. 20.59.15 # GodEater_: Hey there! 20.59.24 # evening ;) 20.59.41 # LambdaCalculus37: would there be a way actually, to change the AA behaviour in slant? I suppose I'd still like this one best... 21.00.01 # floele: I don't use Slant, so I can't really help you there. Sorry. 21.00.17 # who could? ML? 21.00.23 Join HTDHTD [0] (n=adminS@cpe-72-129-70-53.socal.res.rr.com) 21.00.28 # Perhaps, yes. 21.00.32 # I'll be back. 21.00.41 # * LambdaCalculus37 will return in a moment. 21.00.48 # hey everyone 21.00.50 # LambdaCalculus37: thanks for your help :) 21.01.42 # LambdaCalculus37: and resetting settings did not change anything btw 21.02.48 # Just recently my iriver h10 20GB player just died (bad battery works on charger) it had rockbox installed dual booting with original firmware. I am now going to get a new mp3 player and looking into the iaudio X5, does anyone know if the rockbox firmware for iaudio X5 uses more battery than the original firmware of X5? (because it did this with my H10) 21.03.53 Quit HTDHTD (Client Quit) 21.04.01 # wow 21.04.15 # talk and hit and run ircing :) 21.04.22 # s/and/about 21.05.05 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 21.05.44 Join mirak [0] (n=mirak@m94.net81-66-75.noos.fr) 21.05.45 # at least he asked a question 21.06.06 # most of these usually come in, ask "anybody here", wait 5-10 seconds and /quit 21.06.39 Join HTDHTD [0] (n=adminS@cpe-72-129-70-53.socal.res.rr.com) 21.06.46 # sorry got disconnected 21.07.16 Quit mirak (SendQ exceeded) 21.07.22 # HTDHTD: the answer to your question is that you should get *better* battery life with your X5 than with it's original firmware 21.07.36 # cool 21.07.46 # cause it was the other way around with the H10 firmware 21.08.08 # so i am assuming the x5 had dual boot when I want to go to its FM tuner? 21.08.09 Join mirak [0] (n=mirak@m94.net81-66-75.noos.fr) 21.08.14 # has* 21.09.25 # HTDHTD: What for? The FM Tuner is supported with Rockbox. (Someone want to confirm this?) 21.09.37 # Besides, the X5 doesn't dual-boot. 21.09.44 # * GodEater_ was just going to say that 21.09.57 Join tvelocity [0] (n=tony@ppp126-161.adsl.forthnet.gr) 21.10.24 # * LambdaCalculus37 for the win :) 21.10.35 # and yes, the radio is supported on the X5 from Rockbox 21.10.45 # (according to the friendly manual) 21.10.49 # oh really? thats awesome! the h10 didn't have FM tuner (the one I used maybe they update im not sure) 21.10.57 # HTDHTD: It does now. 21.11.01 # sweet 21.11.07 # well no need for dual booting than 21.11.23 # HTDHTD: Don't chuck your H10 out, though. 21.11.36 # If anything, it'll be useful for a Tower of Rockbox. :P 21.11.57 # surely the battery in the H10 is replaceable ? 21.12.05 Join Alonea [0] (n=chatzill@69.92.201.36) 21.12.05 # its internal 21.12.10 # so ? 21.12.10 # GodEater_: On the 5/6GB model, it is. 21.12.23 # besides its time for a new one anyways, this thing is years old lol 21.12.31 # * GodEater_ has replaced batteries in his ipod and H1x0 21.12.47 # * GodEater_ 's H1x0 is older still and still much loved 21.13.17 # LambdaCalculus37: are you going to have a shot at getting hold of that eCos source ? 21.13.19 # yeah their older models are better than the new ones, iriver needs to re continue their old stuff 21.13.39 # GodEater_: I'm going to try during the weekend to hunt it down. 21.14.02 # so did they also fix the battery issue on the new h10 firmware of rockbox? 21.14.12 # Shhhh... be vewy vewy quiet... I'm hunting souwce code. Huhuhuhuhuhuh! 21.14.17 # if it's closer to 502x than 500x as he says - it'll be very useful for all SORTS of targets :) 21.14.34 # HTDHTD: No because the hardware is still undocumented 21.14.45 # all our work on it is guess work 21.15.01 # GodEater: And brother, that was a LOT of guess work. :) 21.15.11 # eye 21.15.13 # er 21.15.13 # aye 21.15.14 # :) 21.15.39 # what do you mean undocumented? 21.15.51 # HTDHTD: Meaning no public documents are available. 21.15.56 # is it somehow ambiguous ? 21.16.08 # oh, but the X5 is documented? 21.16.17 # mostly I believe yes 21.16.21 # The X5 was Coldfire-based like the irivers. 21.16.30 # Well, the H1x0 and H3x0, anyway. 21.16.45 # I think that made most of the dirty work easy. 21.16.47 # cool, as long as the battery is = to or better than the original firmware on the X5 than I am happy 21.17.17 # HTDHTD: On most targets, the battery life on Rockbox even exceeds that of the OF. 21.17.31 # (except the h10) but yeah that sounds great 21.17.37 Quit miepchen^schlaf (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 21.17.42 # LambdaCalculus37: the H10 isn't the best brick for a ToR ;) 21.17.53 # so on the X5 rockbox firmware i can do everything the original firmware can right? (even connecting and playing songs through UMS) 21.17.54 Join miepchen^schlaf [0] (n=hihi@p54BF5D6B.dip.t-dialin.net) 21.18.02 # whats ToR 21.18.09 # http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/WebSearch?topic=BuyersGuide 21.18.20 # Tower of Rockbox 21.18.39 # pixelma: I saw the one you and amiconn made for Xmas... had an H10 on it. 21.18.54 # I figure it's hard to keep from falling off or something? 21.19.05 # That's why it stands upside-down 21.19.10 # Ahh. 21.19.22 # just stands on its top side 21.19.39 # if i make the X5 firmware into rockbox, can I still transfer playlist AND mp3s via UMS and than play them with the player even after they have been transfered via UMS? (because the original firmware of X5 has UMS mode) 21.19.43 # pixelma: Is the bottom curved or something? 21.19.51 # the archos recorders are great bricks :) 21.19.57 # HTDHTD: You still have UMS mode. 21.19.59 # so after connecting my rockbox enabled 3g ipod to my mac and copying some file to it, i eject it. screen says ok to disconnect, but no buttons do anything. how do I get back to the rockbox menu? 21.20.22 # scorche|xo: Make great support platforms for the bottom of a ToR. :) 21.20.30 # rstory: check for the hard reset sequence for the 3g 21.20.48 Join japc [0] (n=japc@bl8-4-173.dsl.telepac.pt) 21.20.54 # yeah.. i was hoping for something more... user friendly. ;-) 21.21.23 # whoa 21.21.26 # LambdaCalculus37: yes, if you look at the pictures again you can see it very clearly :) 21.21.31 # rstory: there isn't any other way to do it 21.21.35 # * amiconn just discovered a binsize waste (in plugins 21.21.48 # it's menu+play incidentally 21.22.23 # pixelma: Yes, I see what you mean now. :) 21.23.36 # Plugins should be linked with --gc-sections if they use pluginlib functions, but the sub-dir plugins don't (at least the ones I am fiddling with atm - doom, mpegplayer, and zxbox) 21.23.55 # pixelma: I think you and amiconn have made the record for "Highest Amount of Unique DAPs in a Tower of Rockbox"... 13 unique players in all. :) 21.24.24 # Yeah. We should've replace one Ondio FM with an Ondio SP though... 21.24.25 # *14 21.24.30 # Sorry. 21.24.31 # (visually the same thing) 21.24.34 # 1 is not Rockbox yet though 21.24.47 # 13 then. 21.24.57 # Forgot about the M3. 21.25.12 # the 2 OndioFMs are a bit different too - one is backlight modded :D 21.25.43 Quit faemir (Remote closed the connection) 21.28.25 Join floele41 [0] (i=Miranda@p3EE270D2.dip.t-dialin.net) 21.28.28 Quit GodEater_ (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 21.28.46 Join GodEater_ [0] (n=vircuser@rockbox/staff/GodEater) 21.29.04 Quit Rob2222 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 21.29.10 # amiconn: I don't supposed you've bothered to glance at the rio karma thread have you ? 21.29.19 Quit scorche|xo (Remote closed the connection) 21.29.55 Join z35 [0] (n=z@149.123.33.65.cfl.res.rr.com) 21.30.00 # nope 21.30.07 # you might find it interesting... 21.30.16 # one of the Rio hardware developers responded 21.30.32 # it's not quite the PP documents we were hoping for 21.30.40 # but he points at somewhere we could get some useful info 21.32.04 # amiconn: Here, have a look: http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=14226.msg110047#msg110047 21.32.49 # Here I was, thinking that the PP5003 had more in common with the PP5002 than the 5020! 21.33.07 # damn! The X5s are discontinued :( now I have to look for another player 21.33.18 # HTDHTD: eBay is your best friend. 21.33.23 # 4 results only 21.33.26 # Or look at Amazon. 21.33.30 # oh yeah amazon 21.33.58 # HTDHTD: And welcome to the same boat as me. I wanted to get my hands on an X5 for quite a while already. 21.34.32 # bah, amazon has 0 results only covers and cradles 21.34.55 # looks like we'll be sinking in this boat :( 21.34.59 Quit Sammienator () 21.35.05 Quit andrew__1 (Remote closed the connection) 21.35.57 # HTDHTD: I thought you were aware already that basically no rockbox targets are in production any more. 21.36.09 # HTDHTD: the sansas were the most recent, but even they're being replaced now. 21.36.27 # yeah i just thought it would be really common on ebay but i guess not :( 21.36.35 Part rstory 21.36.36 # first time i never found anything on ebay 21.36.46 # I think the only hard you'll find that is common on ebay is probably the ipod 21.36.53 # s/hard/hardware 21.37.03 # brain is typing faster than my fingers can keep up =/ 21.37.25 Part floele41 21.38.44 # HTDHTD: You can always try to pick up a Toshiba Gigabeat F off eBay. They tend to show up in large numbers and are usually pretty easy on the budget. 21.38.54 Join faemir [0] (n=daniel@85-211-77-177.dyn.gotadsl.co.uk) 21.39.23 # plus their awesome targets (although they don't have FM radio) 21.39.49 # i wish, im VERY picky with my mp3 player selection 21.40.12 # HTDHTD: How about an iriver H300 instead? 21.40.16 # has to be UMS, must have FM tuner, must AT least be 20GB 21.40.23 # Also excellent targets. 21.40.31 # all rockbox targets are UMS 21.40.33 # * amiconn found 6x iAudio X5 on ebay atm 21.40.50 # amiconn: Can you post a couple of listings for HTDHTD to see? 21.40.53 # yeah one of them is like 500$ cause its the last 60GB or something 21.40.54 # 2 of them are even the 60GB model 21.41.20 # can you post link please? 21.41.20 # (ebay.de fwiw) 21.42.19 # * GodEater_ thought amiconn would be more excited by the hints in the rio thread... 21.42.19 # Crap. Unless they ship to the U.S. and accept international money orders I'm BZZZ outta luck. 21.42.25 Quit miepchen^schlaf (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 21.42.38 # These are the 60's: http://cgi.ebay.de/Cowon-Systems-iAUDIO-X5-60-GB-Digitale-Medienplayer_W0QQitemZ190185849610QQihZ009QQcategoryZ8267QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem http://cgi.ebay.de/Cowon-Systems-iAUDIO-X5-60-GB-Digitaler-Medienplayer_W0QQitemZ280186656201QQihZ018QQcategoryZ8267QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem 21.42.50 Join miepchen^schlaf [0] (n=hihi@p54BF43B8.dip.t-dialin.net) 21.43.31 # thanks 21.43.38 # He has 8 X5's in stock?? 21.43.48 # heh 21.44.08 # but yeah lambdaCalculus37 is right, if they ship to US 21.44.12 # GodEater: Why? Yet another PP target with no docs? 21.44.20 # And the Karma is kinda strange looking 21.45.22 # amiconn: I know a little bit of German, but judging from the pics on the auction, the seller's including screen protectors, the necessary cables, the LCD remote, and a case. Can you confirm? 21.46.20 Quit floele (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 21.46.50 # amiconn: because the guy is saying that they ran eCos on it, and uploaded their code changes back to the eCos tree 21.46.57 # LambdaCalculus37: The first offer, yes 21.46.59 # which means the registers are documented in the eCos code 21.47.08 # * amiconn doesn't know what eCos is 21.47.37 # http://ecos.sourceware.org/ 21.47.41 Quit z35 (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 21.47.53 # anonymous cvs access 21.48.31 # hmm 21.48.41 # Embedded Configurable Operating System 21.48.56 # Looks like the Karma uses a 2.5" hdd though 21.49.02 # who cares? 21.49.19 # amiconn: Actually, the Karma used the same Hitachi hard drive the H10 20GB used. 21.49.19 # he says the 5003 is really really similar to the 502x series 21.49.23 # karma's hd is an odd form-factor... its not the same 2.5" as what ipods use 21.49.31 # 1.8" horizontal orientation. 21.49.48 # LambdaCalculus37: haven't found that spare unit yet, it could be packed :/ 21.49.54 # Ah, connector at the long side? 21.50.01 # LambdaCalculus37: i'll keep looking though 21.50.05 # amiconn: Precisely. 21.50.06 Quit Axio_ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 21.50.19 # * amiconn wonders why 1.8" hdds come with so many different connectors 21.50.28 # * LambdaCalculus37 wonders the same thing 21.50.40 Join Axio_ [0] (n=Axio@alf94-1-81-57-140-233.fbx.proxad.net) 21.51.30 # 44-pin, long side (same as 2.5" hdd). 50-pin (irivers, iaudios, earlier ipods). CardBus (68-pin iirc). 40-pin ZIF, CE-ATA 21.51.50 Join z35 [0] (n=z@149.123.33.65.cfl.res.rr.com) 21.52.05 # CE-ATA = 12 pin? 21.52.25 # Anyway, I did post a link to Karma disassembly instructions in the Karma wiki page; you can clearly see the hard drive here: http://www.schenkzoola.com/Karma/12.jpg 21.52.35 # bring me too! 21.52.58 # errr...how did that land here? 21.53.05 # * scorche|w kicks cgi:irc 21.53.36 # petur: Can be 12-pin or 18-pin 21.54.08 # Guys? 21.54.12 # Oops 21.54.13 # Wrong chat 21.54.16 Part Simsgy 21.54.36 # aw man this is so depressing, all the mp3 players for rockbox are disconntinued and not on ebay (the ones with FM tuner and bigger than 20GB) 21.55.09 # HTDHTD: Did you try looking for an iriver H1x0 or H3x0? 21.55.19 # yep :( all they have are cables for it 21.55.25 # one of wont boot 21.55.52 Join FOAD_ [0] (n=dok@dinah.blub.net) 21.55.53 # i think im just going to carry my iriver H10 with my charger whereever i go 21.56.05 # ill but one of those outlets you can put for your car 21.56.07 # why not just get a new battery for it ? 21.56.33 Quit miepchen^schlaf (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 21.56.49 Join miepchen^schlaf [0] (n=hihi@p54BF43B8.dip.t-dialin.net) 21.57.09 # i cant find =/ 21.57.12 # Well, I hate to cut this party short, but work time is over, and go home time is now. 21.57.17 # I'll see everyone later! 21.57.20 # lol 21.57.20 # Bye, all! 21.57.21 # seeya 21.57.25 # thanks for your help 21.57.29 # gl in finding x5 21.57.35 # HTDHTD: No prob. You too! 21.57.53 Quit LambdaCalculus37 ("CGI:IRC") 21.58.45 # * GodEater_ checks out the eCos source code 21.58.47 Quit cjb (Remote closed the connection) 22.02.39 Quit Alonea ("ChatZilla 0.9.79 [Firefox 2.0.0.11/2007120410]") 22.02.41 # looks like we'll have to ask redhat 22.04.42 # * petur tries to remember the name of a cheap mp3 player using eCos 22.07.23 # Well apparently the Rio was one.... 22.08.11 Join sandman333 [0] (n=4121a8b5@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-7c2f71a6572973e8) 22.10.10 # Targa was the name 22.11.02 # http://www.targa.co.uk/index.jsp?SID=0&NAV=236&PCAT=9&PTUBE=32 22.11.12 Quit FOAD (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 22.11.12 Nick FOAD_ is now known as FOAD (n=dok@dinah.blub.net) 22.12.41 Quit GodEater_ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 22.13.41 Join andrew__1 [0] (n=andrew@stjhnf0124w-142163117114.pppoe-dynamic.nl.aliant.net) 22.13.55 Quit sandman333 ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 22.17.41 Join Sandman333 [0] (n=sandman2@181.168.33.65.cfl.res.rr.com) 22.21.17 Join jhulst [0] (n=jhulst@unaffiliated/jhulst) 22.37.40 Join einhirn_ [0] (n=Miranda@p5B031777.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 22.38.01 Quit einhirn_ (Client Quit) 22.38.52 Quit GodEater (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 22.39.02 Join webguest88 [0] (n=54bfba3d@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-e5811792f397beea) 22.42.05 # Hi, after installing rockbox on my Sansa E280 I can't access the files on the Sansa any more. When I connect the Sansa via my cable and the USB port, the Windows PC nevertheless doesn't recognize the device. any idea what I could do now? 22.42.32 # you cant connect to the computer while rockbox is running 22.43.19 # I do that but the sansa does only switch to the old firmware but in a mode which is not recognizable for windows 22.45.03 # Now I would like to uninstall rockbox but the sansapatcher doesn't work because the system doesn't recognize my sansa E280. 22.47.39 # hold << while booting up the sansa and make sure its still set to connect in MSC mode 22.55.46 Join Llorean [0] (n=llorean@70.255.104.96) 22.55.55 Quit tvelocity (Remote closed the connection) 23.05.09 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 23.05.36 Join uwe__ [0] (n=uwe@dslb-084-056-028-094.pools.arcor-ip.net) 23.07.55 Quit webguest88 ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 23.09.05 Join BigBambi_ [0] (n=alex@rockbox/staff/BigBambi) 23.09.20 Quit BigBambi (Remote closed the connection) 23.10.05 Quit Xerion (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 23.11.05 Join Xerion [0] (i=xerion@cp198589-d.landg1.lb.home.nl) 23.13.19 Quit DogBoy (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 23.14.20 Quit HTDHTD (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 23.17.12 Quit uwe_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 23.17.43 # think i also need to get a new battery for my h140 now :p 23.18.05 # disk will only spin up correctly when i have the adapter plugged in 23.20.28 Quit desowin ("KVIrc 3.2.6 Anomalies http://www.kvirc.net/") 23.22.08 Join eth01 [0] (i=foobar@wikimedia/eth01) 23.22.09 Part eth01 23.24.35 Nick parafin is now known as parafin|away (i=parafin@paraf.in) 23.24.56 Join MethoS-- [0] (n=clemens@pD955CC4D.dip.t-dialin.net) 23.27.38 Join linuxstb [0] (n=chatzill@rockbox/developer/linuxstb) 23.32.32 Quit JdGordon|w ("CGI:IRC") 23.35.40 Quit waldo (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 23.40.30 Quit davina (Remote closed the connection) 23.41.34 Quit jcollie ("Ex-Chat") 23.44.48 Quit MethoS- (Read error: 101 (Network is unreachable)) 23.48.44 Join Buschel [0] (n=AndreeBu@p54A3FD23.dip.t-dialin.net) 23.48.55 # * Buschel is frustrated :( 23.49.45 # even disabling I2C register (if not needed) does not save any measurable amount of current on PP502x 23.50.23 # works like charm, but does not give any better runtime :/ 23.50.51 # But usb did, didn't it? 23.51.26 # yep, usb did. but neither i2c nor clickwheel gave anything... 23.51.50 # still hoping for saratogas PLL-measurment 23.54.14 Quit Robin0800 (" HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- Wibbly Wobbly IRC") 23.54.41 Join Thundercloud__ [0] (n=thunderc@84-51-130-71.judith186.adsl.metronet.co.uk) 23.55.23 Quit petur ("*plop*") 23.58.26 Quit advcomp2019 (Connection reset by peer)