--- Log for 05.01.108 Server: clarke.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 3 days and 18 hours ago 00.01.31 Quit MethoS-- (Read error: 101 (Network is unreachable)) 00.03.09 Quit spiorf (Remote closed the connection) 00.03.13 # I'll just let the runtime measurement finish this night and see whether there is at least a minor saving... will be <1mA then :( 00.03.28 Quit Buschel () 00.08.53 Join waldo [0] (n=waldo@ip-81-11-205-6.dsl.scarlet.be) 00.09.16 # jhMikeS: The greylib reinit when showing/hiding the WVS/OSD looks a bit weird. 00.09.49 # Would it be sufficient to allow clipping the lower border of the overlay, or do we need full clipping capability? 00.10.48 Join farcry15 [0] (n=4ce33dcb@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-62b6170e1b362df4) 00.11.01 Quit Thundercloud_ (Connection timed out) 00.11.53 # hello? 00.12.40 Join shotofadds [0] (n=5101671d@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-b8e72e00ea771ab7) 00.13.09 Part farcry15 00.13.47 # I'm trying to put together a patch for my initial work on the D2 port, anyone know how to get new files to show up in svn diff output? 00.14.03 Join advcomp2019 [0] (n=advcomp2@unaffiliated/advcomp2019) 00.14.05 # svn add them first 00.14.05 # jhMikeS: Or, still different, would it be best to have drawing functions (incl. text) for unbuffered mode 00.14.15 # s//?/ 00.14.39 # shotofadds: Hi. Does your patch share anything with the tcc77x code, or have you created a separate directory for the 7801? 00.16.08 # Bagder: I tried to svn add recursively over the firmware/* directory, but nothing shows in svn diff or svn status. do i need to add the files individually? 00.16.13 # * amiconn ponders committing the new greylib 00.16.31 # shotofadds: hm, that might be the case yes 00.16.51 # linuxstb: initially I've created a new 7801 folder, but I can see there will end up being a lot of similarities. 00.17.03 # might not be a good idea in the long run 00.17.53 # The idea at the moment is to get a patch that others can use as a starting point, I'm not expecting it to be SVN quality yet. 00.18.07 # ah bagder is here... bagder, so are you sure that it's possible for a plugin to _schedule_ a song for the playback engine, and exit (the plugin) just before the song gets loaded/played? 00.18.21 # shotofadds: What's the status of your code now? Is the LCD working reliably? 00.19.06 # conando: you didn't ask that before, and no I don't think there's any current functionality for that 00.19.08 Join einhirn [0] (n=Miranda@p5B030F5E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 00.19.08 # yes, I have the LCD working reliably and a working button driver 00.19.24 # i'll try svn adding the files individually 00.20.33 # doesn't the jewels plungin has similar functionality? 00.20.38 # bagder: oh ok sorry, then the last time i wasn't really clear it seems.. that's what i wanted to do.. because that currently seems to be the only way to get the actual "pick&start a song" functionality into picture flow 00.21.05 # conando: I interpreted your question then as if it would be anything against adding such functionality 00.21.06 # shotofadds: How many buttons does the D2 have? I thought it was touchscreen? 00.22.08 # bagder: ah i see.. well then i'll have a look... although i guess it'll be kinda hard for me as a novice to this project ;) 00.22.43 # conando: true... but good practise! ;-) 00.23.00 # I figure there's some playlist functions that should be able to get used for it 00.23.15 # linuxstb: the three buttons are plus, minus and Menu. there's also power and hold switch. The OF uses plus minus as down/up in menus in addition to the touchscreen. it's a good starting point... 00.23.16 # hehe true true.. yes that's what i thought too 00.23.16 # that may or may not already be in the plugin api 00.24.09 # hmm.. individual svn add'ing seems to work. when i've put something together I'll post it to the forum, as a user there was interested. 00.24.39 # shotofadds: do put the patch in the patch tracker, and post a link to it in the forum 00.24.47 # bagder: i'm on my first rockbox adventure ;) thanks 00.25.13 # Bagder: will do. that way I can't break it again unintentionally :) 00.25.20 # shotofadds: Does your D2 have DAB? 00.25.22 Join fasmaie [0] (n=yohann@c-24-60-113-125.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) 00.26.36 Quit ol_schoola (Connection timed out) 00.26.49 # Yes, it's 4Gb DAB. The work I've done so far should be pretty generic though - DAB will be a whole new adventure for later! 00.27.58 # Do you know what DAB hardware is in the D2? Is it the same as my Logik DAX - http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/LogikDaxPort#Hardware 00.28.51 # I'm not sure - I haven't taken it apart. Yet. 00.31.09 # got to go - the other half is calling... 00.31.15 Quit shotofadds ("CGI:IRC") 00.31.41 Quit Schnueff ("nite") 00.34.38 Quit faemir (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 00.34.54 Quit midkay (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 00.35.02 Join midkay_ [0] (n=midkay@c-24-19-236-139.hsd1.mn.comcast.net) 00.37.35 Quit Llorean ("Leaving.") 00.39.11 Quit einhirn (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 00.40.03 Quit ompaul (Client Quit) 00.40.20 Join ol_schoola [0] (n=meatwad@c-67-167-20-91.hsd1.il.comcast.net) 00.45.31 # amiconn: Have you looked at my viewports patch yet, or are you intending to before I commit it? 00.48.45 # Not yet, was busy with what I just committed, and I'm not done with it 00.49.57 # Nice commit ;) Does it increase the mpegplayer framerate? 00.49.57 Quit mirak (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 00.51.32 Quit fasmaie (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 00.52.10 Join qwm [0] (i=qwm@c83-254-194-26.bredband.comhem.se) 00.52.23 # midkay_ 00.55.03 # * scorche|w glares at qwm 00.55.16 # * DerPapst hides 00.55.36 # * qwm throws DerPapst at scorche|w 00.55.44 Quit JdGordon ("Konversation terminated!") 00.58.22 # linuxstb: Not as much as I hoped. I have some ideas for optimisation (using asm of course, but not nearly as much as the old lib had) 00.58.53 # * scorche|w runs away 00.58.56 # * amiconn also doesn't like the binsize increase especially on archos :/ 01.01.22 Join xnyhps_ [0] (n=sphynx@84.35.101.133) 01.01.46 Quit J3TC- (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 01.04.13 Quit scorche|w ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)") 01.05.07 Join batataxpto69 [0] (n=batataxp@89.181.53.168) 01.05.10 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 01.05.11 # hi 01.05.16 # can u help me? 01.05.17 # yo 01.05.20 # Just ask 01.05.26 # And use proper english please 01.05.28 # i've installed rockbox 01.05.44 # on a sansa e250 01.05.46 # And don't use the enter key as punctuation :) 01.05.59 # and i want to refresh the database 01.06.34 # ok, i will try to do not use enter key as ponctuation! 01.06.41 # Thanks 01.07.17 # batataxpto69: do you mean the original firmware's one or Rockbox's database? 01.07.33 # the rockbox was refreshed the database automatically on the first usage, but now I can't refresh it again 01.07.48 # batataxpto69: Select initialise now to do it manually 01.07.52 # sorry for my english, by the way 01.08.12 # where i can find that BigBambi_? 01.08.26 # batataxpto69: Your english is fine, but many people rely on screen readers or translation software, so things like "u" not you are not so useful 01.08.34 # batataxpto69: In the database menu 01.10.22 # I don't use the database, but from memory settings - general settings - database - initialise now 01.10.40 # i see Artist, Album, Genre, composer, track, year, user rating, recently added, a to z, history, same as ccurrent, search and, finally, custom viwe 01.10.59 # batataxpto69: See above - it is in settings 01.11.12 # I should have said the database settings menu, my mistake 01.11.18 # ok 01.11.49 # Do you also have auto update turned on? 01.12.12 Join ashe613 [0] (n=mac35@host81-154-43-45.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) 01.12.22 # no i haven't 01.12.46 # ok, it's donw 01.12.49 # batataxpto69: Probably a good idea :) 01.12.54 # thank you 01.12.57 # Is there a load to ram setting on the sansa? 01.13.04 # BigBambi_: isn't that slow on targets without dircache? 01.13.04 # yes, probaly is a good idea 01.13.09 Part ashe613 01.13.18 # pixelma: I don't know, I don't own one 01.13.31 # pixelma: But if you want any sort of autoupdating... 01.14.03 # I ought to buy a Sansa really. I know very little about them 01.14.14 # If anyone hears of a cheap one.... 01.14.19 # that's what I've been told... but I don't trust autoupdate anyway especially on targets with removeable media (and don't use the database too much) 01.14.21 # Is there a load to ram setting on the sansa? -> i don't have understanded, when i said that "sorry for my english" I was telling the treth 01.14.43 # *truth 01.14.57 # batataxpto69: In the database settings menu (the one with auto update etc), is there an option called "Load to RAM"? 01.15.34 # BigBambi_: no there isn't 01.15.38 # OK 01.15.45 # I thought not on Sansa, but wasn't sure 01.15.46 # no it isn't 01.16.16 # pixelma: I thought the slowness was for removing deleted files without load to RAM (or is that as well as slowness with no dircache)? 01.16.47 Nick BigBambi_ is now known as BigBambi (n=alex@rockbox/staff/BigBambi) 01.17.27 # Bye 01.17.32 # cheerio 01.17.32 # i need to sleep 01.17.59 # that is late here 01.18.07 # you need to ask Slasheri for the details but as I understood (in a very nontechnical way) dircache helps the database to detect deleted, added and updated files 01.18.14 # OK 01.18.24 Quit batataxpto69 ("Saindo") 01.19.03 # I understood that performance was a bit worse without dircache, but that detection of deleted files required it 01.19.23 # Anyway, as I say I don't know and don't use it, so am going to stop pointlessly speculating :) 01.20.09 # I also only try the database from time to time, never used autoupdate 01.20.27 # me neither 01.22.14 # I just tried manual "update now" a few times on my Ondio with database initialised while an MMC was plugged and then removed for the update - that failed... 01.22.57 # hmmmm 01.24.40 # pixelma: hmm, could you check the logf output? 01.25.45 # don't I need a special build for that? 01.25.52 # indeed 01.26.18 # but that is the only way to get the actual error message 01.27.30 Quit ol_schoola () 01.28.31 # BigBambi - Refurbished Sansa e260 at Buy.com for $64. I have the refurbished e250 and am very happy with it. 01.28.49 # Jay_G: Do they ship to Europe? 01.28.56 # now you tell me... why didn't you say that when I reported it to you back in (must be a long time, don't even remember... at least in last summer or even before) 01.29.15 # pixelma: even that the database doesn't handle MMC very well, it shouldn't fail if updating with or without MMC 01.29.35 # hehe :) 01.30.25 # BigBambi - They ship free to the U.S. I know that doesn't help you. I'll check for overseas shipping. 01.30.35 # but the logfdump would be useful. it might point to the correct place right away 01.30.50 # Slasheri: maybe I'll try out an logf build and tell you the details - but not now, quite late 01.32.27 # pixelma: sounds great :) 01.32.31 # BigBambi - Unfortunately, no. 01.32.53 # Jay_G: I could ask a US friend to help out, but then it just adds the price up 01.32.58 # Cheers anyway :) 01.33.06 # just remember to define LOGF_ENABLE at the beginning of tagcache.c 01.33.24 # and compile with logf of course :) 01.41.01 Join Thundercloud_ [0] (n=thunderc@84-51-130-71.judith186.adsl.metronet.co.uk) 01.43.29 # Slasheri: I could at least report that behaviour has changed since I last tried - if I try that now "disk activity" stops very quickly after chosing "update now" but if I want to browse the entries I get the "Database not ready. Initialise now?" splash. Earlier it just didn't stop disk activity and if I went to the debug menu I could see that there was no progress... 01.49.11 Quit obo ("bye") 01.50.43 Part linuxstb 01.51.41 Quit Axio_ (Remote closed the connection) 01.52.38 # merf 01.53.28 # ? 01.55.50 Join mirak_ [0] (n=mirak@m94.net81-66-75.noos.fr) 01.56.08 # jhMikeS: ping 01.56.09 Quit Thundercloud__ (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 01.58.28 Quit mirak_ (SendQ exceeded) 01.59.28 Join mirak_ [0] (n=mirak@m94.net81-66-75.noos.fr) 01.59.42 Quit ender` (" But there, everything has its drawbacks, as the man said when his mother-in-law died, and they came down upon him for the f") 02.01.03 Quit merbanan (Remote closed the connection) 02.05.04 Join sdoyon [0] (n=steph@modemcable193.152-83-70.mc.videotron.ca) 02.05.17 Quit sdoyon (Client Quit) 02.07.21 Join MethoS-- [0] (n=clemens@pD955CE4A.dip.t-dialin.net) 02.10.03 Quit mf0102 ("Verlassend") 02.16.33 Quit Jay_G ("Leaving.") 02.16.50 Join Rob2222 [0] (n=Miranda@p54B14F75.dip.t-dialin.net) 02.18.16 Quit xnyhps_ ("...") 02.20.42 Part pixelma 02.22.48 Join Febs [0] (n=chatzill@207-172-204-33.c3-0.rdl-ubr4.trpr-rdl.pa.cable.rcn.com) 02.26.33 Join tapiocapudding [0] (n=chatzill@208.248.14.207) 02.26.43 # hi 02.26.44 # umm 02.27.46 # i got the rockbox utility and installed rockbox (i did a small install) and now i'm trying to get the fonts, but when i try to download i get http error 0 02.27.56 Quit waldo (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 02.28.05 Quit HellDragon (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 02.28.13 # i've completely cleared the utility thru my firewall 02.28.36 Join HellDragon [0] (i=jd@unaffiliated/helldragon) 02.28.48 # umm 02.28.50 # anyone 02.29.05 # i guess i'll just restart the program then 02.29.10 # see if that helps 02.30.33 # yeah that worked kthxbye 02.30.37 Quit tapiocapudding (Client Quit) 02.31.54 Quit moos ("Rockbox rules the DAP world") 02.32.20 # amiconn: ? (have to get to bed early btw) 02.33.10 Quit stewball (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 02.34.32 Quit miepchen^schlaf (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 02.35.00 Join miepchen^schlaf [0] (n=hihi@p54BF5469.dip.t-dialin.net) 02.44.56 Quit Arathis ("Bye, bye") 02.55.48 Join darkslategrey [0] (n=chatzill@208.248.14.207) 02.55.56 Quit DerPapst ("So Long And Thanks For All The Fish!") 02.55.57 # hey 02.56.07 # umm 02.56.11 # i have a problem w/ rockdoom 02.57.28 # when i try to load an addon file (this has happened with every addon i've tried) the normal text appears on the screen and an error message appears 02.57.40 # and it seems to have been cut off but what i can read of it is 02.58.06 # you cannot -file with the sh 02.58.27 # and then it stops, displays more text faster than i can read it, and returns to the plugin menu 02.59.29 # my theory is that the rest is supposed to say "areware", so the complete message would be you cannot -file with the shareware 03.05.11 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 03.05.24 Part lassesdatamaskin ("Leaving.") 03.06.29 # okay then 03.06.48 Quit darkslategrey (":(") 03.09.13 Join Nico_P [50] (n=nicolas@rockbox/developer/NicoP) 03.13.30 Join SirFunk [0] (n=Sir@206-159-155-246.netsync.net) 03.14.10 Join dqhpmp [0] (n=44db4cbf@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-bb50ea9353a4dfed) 03.14.18 Quit miepchen^schlaf (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 03.14.32 Join miepchen^schlaf [0] (n=hihi@p54BF7AE7.dip.t-dialin.net) 03.15.03 # hi 03.16.05 # hi 03.16.59 # hi 03.17.17 # how are you 03.22.58 Quit jgarvey ("Leaving") 03.23.02 Quit DerDome ("Leaving.") 03.24.08 Quit dqhpmp ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 03.35.12 Join krazykit [0] (n=krazykit@adsl-76-252-5-45.dsl.ipltin.sbcglobal.net) 03.35.25 Join Darrell [0] (n=DGBOWLES@c-68-47-197-19.hsd1.tn.comcast.net) 03.35.33 # scorche 03.35.39 # what is that fool up to? 03.35.57 # * scorche shrugs...shall i call him? :) 03.36.05 # Is there ever going to be a version of rockbox for the Ipod classic? 03.36.17 # Darrell, if someone does the port, yes 03.36.24 # * scorche shakes an 8-ball 03.36.33 # Darrell: Outcome Unclear :) 03.37.07 Join Thundercloud [0] (n=thunderc@84-51-130-71.judith186.adsl.metronet.co.uk) 03.37.46 Join dqhpmp [0] (n=chatzill@adsl-219-76-191.asm.bellsouth.net) 03.39.43 Quit Darrell (Client Quit) 03.39.59 Quit dqhpmp (Client Quit) 03.42.24 Quit Nico_P (Remote closed the connection) 03.42.32 Quit mirak_ ("Ex-Chat") 03.42.43 Join dqhpmp [0] (n=chatzill@adsl-219-76-191.asm.bellsouth.net) 03.42.51 Join evilnick [0] (n=foo@pool-96-239-39-82.nycmny.east.verizon.net) 03.44.06 Quit Thundercloud (Remote closed the connection) 03.44.07 # hi 03.44.10 Quit BigBambi (Remote closed the connection) 03.45.28 # are you there 03.45.39 # hi 03.46.05 # dqhpmp, please read the guidelines. you'll know to just ask if you have a problem :) 03.46.13 Quit MethoS-- (Remote closed the connection) 03.46.21 Join Rayvin [0] (i=BluFudge@206.74.74.49) 03.46.40 # there is a bug in mpegplayer 03.46.52 Join Darrell [0] (n=DGBOWLES@c-68-47-197-19.hsd1.tn.comcast.net) 03.46.57 # I'm here helping a friend read this window...He's having problems seeing it and I'm helping. 03.47.40 # scorche: you got his phone number? :p 03.47.49 # i do 03.47.56 # hehe 03.48.01 # where do you live btw? 03.48.09 # is thre going to be a reasease of Rockbox for the Ipod classic? 03.48.20 # come into #rockbox-community for this 03.48.21 # Now that I can read the window for him. :-P 03.48.35 # Darrell: no one is even working on porting it 03.48.45 # there is a bug in mpegplayer 03.49.15 # dqhpmp: yes...we heard you 03.49.16 # dqhpmp, well, we can't know what it is if you don't tell us 03.49.39 Join courtc_ [0] (n=court@c-24-99-230-218.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) 03.50.09 Quit courtc (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 03.50.12 # the bug is that when the idle power off is set the while the video is playing the player will shut off 03.50.23 # Ok...Now I've got a question, just for my own curiosity sake. Exactly wat makes a iPOD video different from an iPOD Classic...It's a real Noob question I know but I'm just too curious. 03.50.47 # Rayvin: lots of things....completely different hardware, encrypted firmware, etc 03.51.25 # Ah thank you Scorch. That's what I was wondering. I knew the hardware was different...And figured the firmware might be. Thank you for clarifying. 03.52.02 Quit Thundercloud_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 03.52.21 Quit Darrell () 03.52.26 # See you guys!! 03.52.27 Part Rayvin 03.52.28 # dqhpmp, are you using the latest official build? 03.52.37 # yes 03.53.25 Quit conando (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 03.53.40 Join conando [0] (n=john@dslb-084-060-140-195.pools.arcor-ip.net) 03.54.16 # I set it to 5 mins the video is under 5 mins 03.55.12 # dqhpmp, i just set my timeout to 2 minutes and started a video that's longer. let's see what happens. 03.55.36 # k 03.55.57 Quit BHSPitLappy (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 03.58.24 Join BHSPitLappy [0] (n=stephen@adsl-65-65-222-195.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net) 04.00.19 # dqhpmp, my player didn't shut off after 2... 04.00.20 # oh 04.00.23 # , there it went 04.00.48 # well, that doesn't seem like desirable behavior 04.01.14 Join RexMundi [0] (n=wouter@84.245.24.209) 04.01.34 # I am glad I could tell y'all 04.01.45 # file a bug report, then, i'd suggest 04.02.11 # I think someone has done that 04.02.18 # let me get the link 04.03.38 # here it is: http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/8388 04.03.39 Join WalkGood [0] (i=WalkGood@unaffiliated/walkgood) 04.05.49 # I hope this helps 04.08.17 Join psycho_maniac [0] (i=psycho_m@ppp459.hk.centurytel.net) 04.09.13 # Hi, I just bricked my ipod completely and in the display I see the message that I have to use iTunes to restore, but I'm using Linux and have no iTunes. Is there a way to put rockbox on it without the original firmware? 04.10.15 # I tried running the installer but I get a http error when I want to use the complete install function, and the install bootloader function says my bootloader is up to date... 04.10.55 # know somebody with itunes? 04.11.59 # my parents have a windows pc, so I could go over there, but I wanted to know if I could fix it directly 04.12.25 # this should give you a start: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=ISO-8859-1&q=restore+ipod+without+itunes&btnG=Google+Search 04.13.04 # RexMundi, there is a method on the wiki 04.13.28 # IpodManualRestore, i think 04.14.05 # id you get the link 04.14.33 # I did find a way to restore with dd but you need a backup image of the partition for that 04.14.42 # RexMundi, which is also on the wiki. 04.14.48 # http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IpodManualRestore 04.14.51 Quit jhulst (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 04.14.56 # here it is : http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/8388 04.15.08 # dqhpmp, thanks 04.15.25 # I did not post that though 04.15.48 # hehe 04.17.24 # I'll give the link you provided a try, thanks krazykit and dqhpmp 04.18.13 # I hope you get a chance to look at it 04.19.53 Join homielowe [0] (n=chatzill@d207-81-67-190.bchsia.telus.net) 04.24.58 Join jackb [0] (n=kickassp@c-76-23-215-101.hsd1.ct.comcast.net) 04.25.12 Part jackb 04.27.59 Quit advcomp2019 ("+++ OK ATH OK") 04.29.23 Join soap_ [50] (n=soap@rockbox/staff/soap) 04.31.55 Quit dqhpmp ("ChatZilla 0.9.79 [Firefox 2.0.0.11/2007112718]") 04.32.50 Quit soap_ (Remote closed the connection) 04.33.39 Join jhulst [0] (n=jhulst@unaffiliated/jhulst) 04.34.07 # krazykit: it worked, so no need for windows afterall :) 04.34.12 Quit Seed (Nick collision from services.) 04.34.19 Join Seed [0] (n=ben@bzq-84-108-237-178.cablep.bezeqint.net) 04.34.50 # RexMundi, the wiki is just chock-full of nifty information :) 04.36.09 # Tell me about it :), but to be honest I was expecting information like this in the FAQ, assuming that there are more people like me... 04.36.31 # RexMundi, keep in mind many users do use windows or osx, making the process a wee bit easier 04.37.03 Part WalkGood 04.37.55 # scorche: convince the fool to quit his job. 04.37.58 Join jason [0] (n=3f1335bf@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-0014336da8a46af9) 04.37.59 # krazykit: I tend to forget that sometimes :). btw this was as easy as it can be.. 04.38.08 Quit miepchen^schlaf (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 04.38.11 Quit Seed (Nick collision from services.) 04.38.17 Join miepchen^schlaf [0] (n=hihi@p54BF60B0.dip.t-dialin.net) 04.38.18 Join Seed [0] (i=ben@bzq-84-108-237-178.cablep.bezeqint.net) 04.38.42 # hey 04.39.20 Join ol_schoola [0] (n=meatwad@c-67-167-20-91.hsd1.il.comcast.net) 04.39.24 # I got a ? 04.39.32 # so ask :) 04.39.47 # but read the guidelines first 04.40.32 # I am tryin to install the splash file 04.40.48 # I cant get it to work 04.40.53 # what splash file? 04.41.09 # bootlogo? 04.41.40 # yeah 04.41.53 # I got both files downloaded 04.42.06 # do you have a build-environment set up? 04.42.24 # naw 04.42.34 Join advcomp2019 [0] (n=advcomp2@unaffiliated/advcomp2019) 04.42.41 # are you refering to the actual bootlogo installer 04.42.48 # you need one. to change the boot logo, you need to compile your own build 04.43.07 # I have no idea how to do that lol 04.43.09 # psycho_maniac, are you confusing what he wants with the "boot loader" perhaps? 04.43.38 # bootsplash.raw and bootsplash.bmp 04.43.44 # ill find the wiki page im refering to 04.44.09 # jason, er, where are you finding these? 04.44.55 # one of the wiki pages 04.45.00 # which one? 04.45.04 # http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/LogoSwapper 04.45.05 # btw I have the Gigabeat F20 04.45.46 # aight 04.45.46 # if you're using that program, it's not supported here. 04.47.19 # aight 04.47.21 # thanks guys 04.47.30 # * psycho_maniac thinks anything not supported thats in the wiki should say so on the page 04.49.27 # it does say that. 04.49.46 # so the program dont support the gigabeat? 04.50.17 # no it works on the gigabeat but rockbox devs does nt support it. as in you will not get help in THIS irc channel 04.50.19 # jason, the program is not supported in this channel 04.51.00 # aight 04.51.33 # thanks again....btw Rockbox rox!!!!! 04.55.13 # whats the gigabeats latest build date? 04.56.59 # today 04.57.23 # jason, all the builds are updated at the same time, based on whenever the last revision to the source code was made 04.58.58 # aight 04.59.00 Quit miepchen^schlaf (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 04.59.11 Join miepchen^schlaf [0] (n=hihi@p54BF7384.dip.t-dialin.net) 04.59.27 Quit psycho_maniac (" Rebooting......") 05.04.05 Quit jason ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)") 05.05.13 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 05.07.57 Quit jhulst (Remote closed the connection) 05.08.33 Join BenZavala [0] (n=c9ac06a4@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-5f28eea571a39b53) 05.11.31 # hello everyone... my name is Ben Zavala... I've been using Rockbox for more than a year now and well.. of course, I love it. I actually have a WPS Theme that I'd like to upload. Was reading that I need someone to give me edit permisions? Anyone? 05.13.01 Join jhulst [0] (n=jhulst@unaffiliated/jhulst) 05.14.23 # BenZavala, sure, just a minute 05.15.55 # thanks krazykit 05.17.35 # BenZavala, you have permissions now 05.18.41 # great! thank you! 05.20.47 Quit courtc_ (Remote closed the connection) 05.20.51 Join courtc [0] (n=court@c-24-99-230-218.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) 05.23.34 Quit ol_schoola (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 05.23.34 Join ol_schoola_ [0] (n=meatwad@c-67-167-20-91.hsd1.il.comcast.net) 05.40.09 Join perrikwp [0] (n=chatzill@74.167.148.160) 05.40.44 Nick fxb is now known as fxb__ (n=felixbru@h1252615.stratoserver.net) 05.44.47 Part Sandman333 05.59.11 Join dqhpmp [0] (n=chatzill@adsl-219-76-191.asm.bellsouth.net) 05.59.30 # hi 06.00.06 # how is rockbox on a gigabeat 06.00.16 # dandy? 06.00.49 # I have a question a an ipod nano that was rockboxed 06.01.53 Quit dqhpmp (Client Quit) 06.02.37 Quit homielowe (Remote closed the connection) 06.03.09 Join homielowe [0] (n=chatzill@d207-81-67-190.bchsia.telus.net) 06.04.52 Quit evilnick () 06.18.56 Quit quaal (Remote closed the connection) 06.37.56 Quit courtc (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 06.39.34 Nick midkay_ is now known as midkay (n=midkay@c-24-19-236-139.hsd1.mn.comcast.net) 06.41.23 Part BenZavala 06.41.50 Quit gnoob (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 06.44.22 Join gnoob [0] (n=ToolBoy@c-71-201-79-143.hsd1.il.comcast.net) 06.47.27 Join courtc [0] (n=court@c-24-99-230-218.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) 06.50.39 Join perrikwp_ [0] (n=chatzill@74.167.148.160) 06.51.11 Quit perrikwp_ (Client Quit) 06.56.16 Quit courtc (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 06.56.19 Join courtc [0] (n=court@c-24-99-230-218.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) 07.05.16 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 07.08.28 Quit perrikwp (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 07.09.26 Join ptw419 [0] (n=ptw419@cpe-72-179-164-213.satx.res.rr.com) 07.16.04 Join Llorean [0] (n=llorean@70.255.104.96) 07.21.29 # i'm having trouble w/ the open function 07.22.15 # in the current rb gigabeat S bootloader the code is like this and works fine :http://svn.rockbox.org/viewvc.cgi/trunk/bootloader/gigabeat-s.c?revision=15965&view=markup 07.23.39 # this is my code http://paste.uni.cc/18023 07.24.17 # in the load_firmware function in common.c the file is not opening w/ open, and taking a bit of time to return 07.24.27 # any ideas? 07.34.04 Join duvnel1 [0] (n=ddurham@c-76-107-111-150.hsd1.ms.comcast.net) 07.34.31 # gotta H10 and want to try to implement the slider bar functionality.. has any work been done on this alrea? 07.34.35 # already* 07.35.21 # ne1 around even? 07.44.26 Join dqhpmp [0] (n=chatzill@adsl-219-76-191.asm.bellsouth.net) 07.45.29 Quit dqhpmp (Client Quit) 07.46.04 Join courtc_ [0] (n=court@c-24-99-230-218.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) 07.47.09 Join ompaul [0] (n=ompaul@gnewsense/friend/ompaul) 07.47.42 # I'm having trouble (looking at rockbox.org) finding just where to check out the svn from? 07.48.39 # oh.. found a getting started link in teh forums 07.50.02 Join Bagder_ [0] (n=daniel@1-1-5-26a.hud.sth.bostream.se) 07.51.17 Quit courtc (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 07.51.27 # ugh, i can't figure it out :\ 07.56.57 Join courtc [0] (n=court@c-24-99-230-218.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) 08.00.48 Part toffe82 08.03.01 # ? 08.03.18 Quit courtc_ (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 08.03.20 # btw- I just installed rockbox tonight.. and it really does rock 08.03.36 # I am a developer and want to attempt to get the slider pad to work on the H10 08.04.12 Join ctaylorr [0] (n=ctaylorr@CPE001839ae25b4-CM0011aea4a276.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) 08.05.17 Quit Bagder (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 08.08.13 # * Llorean doesn't really understand why someone would want to require more hand motion to move in a list. 08.10.42 Join Rob222241 [0] (n=Miranda@p54B13E76.dip.t-dialin.net) 08.21.03 Quit scorche (Success) 08.22.22 Quit courtc (Remote closed the connection) 08.25.29 Join scorche [0] (i=Blah@rockbox/administrator/scorche) 08.26.51 Join courtc [0] (n=court@c-24-99-230-218.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) 08.27.23 Quit Rob2222 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 08.28.17 # duvnel1: I'd say check out the wiki, see what's going on 08.30.04 Quit ompaul (Client Quit) 08.35.30 Join tvelocity [0] (n=tony@ppp126-161.adsl.forthnet.gr) 08.37.31 Join spiorf [0] (n=spiorf@host73-213-dynamic.20-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) 08.38.53 # http://www.freescale.com/files/ftf_2007/doc/presentations/Americas/Consumer/AC330_FTF2007.pdf?fsrch=1 08.39.35 # an explanation of how the initial boot sequence of the gigabeatS works at about page 20 08.57.57 Join Mathiasdm [0] (n=Mathias@d54C597B6.access.telenet.be) 09.01.14 Join dude [0] (n=4b55bd85@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-12cb5754f37f773f) 09.01.28 # anyone here? 09.03.26 # maybe 09.05.04 # my ipod keeps rebooting at the apple logo, can you help? 09.05.17 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 09.06.49 Quit ptw419 (Remote closed the connection) 09.07.42 # dude: You'll need to describe what you've done, are you trying to install? 09.09.13 Join spiorf_ [0] (n=spiorf@host202-211-dynamic.20-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) 09.10.19 Quit tedrock (Client Quit) 09.10.42 Quit dude ("CGI:IRC") 09.12.02 Join DerDome [0] (n=DerDome@dslb-082-083-221-090.pools.arcor-ip.net) 09.19.34 Quit spiorf (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 09.26.42 Join pixelma [50] (i=pixelma@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 09.27.25 Quit DerDome ("Leaving.") 09.29.51 Join AKWIN [0] (i=David@161-151-58-66.gci.net) 09.29.55 # hello 09.32.55 Join Buschel [0] (n=AndreeBu@p54A3F97E.dip.t-dialin.net) 09.44.57 Quit LycoLoco (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 09.51.57 Join ompaul [0] (n=ompaul@gnewsense/friend/ompaul) 09.52.06 Join GodEater [50] (n=bryan@rockbox/staff/GodEater) 09.57.33 Quit amiconn (Nick collision from services.) 09.57.41 Join amiconn [50] (n=jens@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 09.58.53 Join linuxstb [0] (n=chatzill@rockbox/developer/linuxstb) 10.02.41 # morning linuxstb :) 10.02.54 # Good morning 10.03.51 # * linuxstb goes to plumb himself into the espresso machine 10.04.00 # sounds like a good plan 10.04.34 Join xushi [0] (n=xushi@unaffiliated/xushi) 10.07.35 # Anyone know the license of ecos? Thinking about that Karma patch sent to RedHat... 10.09.22 # Seems that from May 2002, it was under a modified GPL... 10.09.57 Quit GodEater (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 10.10.22 Quit miepchen^schlaf (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 10.10.29 # So maybe users have the right to ask for the source... I wonder why no-one did. 10.10.43 Join miepchen^schlaf [0] (n=hihi@p54BF4F8C.dip.t-dialin.net) 10.11.22 Join GodEater [0] (n=godeater@rockbox/staff/GodEater) 10.17.09 Quit AKWIN (Client Quit) 10.17.24 Quit jhulst (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 10.17.32 Join Farp [0] (n=asd@60.52.68.26) 10.18.20 # eCos: Currently GPL, at the time Rio submitted PP code to it was RHEPL 10.18.30 # * linuxstb found it here - http://ecos.sourceware.org/old-license.html 10.18.45 # It seems even that license required Rio to distribute the source to users, but only for 12 months... 10.18.55 Join Axio_ [0] (n=Axio@alf94-1-81-57-140-233.fbx.proxad.net) 10.19.30 # So see if an old firmware update is still available anywhere that would count as them distributing? 10.20.09 # Who owns the Rio Karma now? 10.20.46 Quit ompaul (Client Quit) 10.20.49 # RioAudio.com is still around 10.21.23 # Yes, complete with firmware updates... 10.21.54 # Last firmware update is from 2004, but they're distributing it as of today? 10.22.04 # They seem to be. 10.22.27 # So I guess someone should re-read that ecos license, and then send an email requesting source... 10.22.42 # So that thing's running eCos? 10.22.53 # according to two people I know yes 10.22.58 # both of whom worked on the thing 10.23.47 # Might be a good idea to scan it for strings, just to see if there can be a little more confirmation that the file you specifically downloaded from them is? 10.23.48 # Although maybe it would be easier to ask RedHat first - I would guess they're more likely to be on top of these things. 10.24.00 # Isn't it encrypted? 10.24.22 # I think he said it was "lightly encrypted" 10.24.24 # whatever that means 10.25.13 # Not light enough for anyone to crack yet though? 10.25.23 # no-one's tried 10.25.32 # at least - not to my knowledge 10.25.48 Join davina [0] (n=davina@cpc1-sout6-0-0-cust616.sotn.cable.ntl.com) 10.35.38 Join xushi_ [0] (n=xushi@unaffiliated/xushi) 10.37.05 Quit Axio_ (Remote closed the connection) 10.39.43 Quit spiorf_ (Remote closed the connection) 10.40.17 # * linuxstb is annoyed by the viewports binsize increase - 2656 bytes on Ipod Color, 2532 on H300 10.41.34 # Did you convert some screens yet? 10.41.51 Quit xushi (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 10.42.09 # I would expect a decrease from converting things like the browser etc, making the status bar and button bar a viewport etc 10.42.48 # The additional features in the wps do increase binsize of course 10.43.31 # The only changes to apps are the WPS, plus adding the viewport-related functions to the screens and plugin apis. 10.43.46 # I still didn't check out your implementation, but I expected only a minimal increases in the lcd drivers.... 10.44.19 # In fact each drawing function only needs to shift x and y, and do variable instead of fixed clipping 10.45.25 # 700 bytes of that (on the ipod) is the WPS function to parse the %V tag... I think the wps parsing can be improved generally (wrt binsize) 10.45.34 # Yes, that's basically all that it does... 10.46.00 # lcd-16bit.c is about 950 bytes bigger on ARM, I haven't checked the other drivers individually. 10.47.02 # SH1 would be most interesting 10.47.48 # I was wondering if the Player needs to support the %V tag in the WPS. 10.48.02 # (%V sets a viewport for the subsequent lines in the WPS) 10.48.08 # Hmm, but if the driver is only +950 bytes, what's the rest?? 10.48.58 # The changes in the WPS, as I said, about 700 bytes for the parser, which means about 900 bytes elsewhere. 10.49.17 Join ender` [0] (i=krneki@84-255-206-8.static.t-2.net) 10.50.43 # Do Coldfire and SH pass function parameters in registers? If so, how many? 10.51.02 # Coldfire doesn't 10.51.21 # SH does, 4 regs similar to arm (SH uses r4..r7) 10.52.19 # But unlike arm, SH switches to all-stackparms if there are more than 4 parameters (iirc) 10.53.08 Join courtc_ [0] (n=court@c-24-99-230-218.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) 10.53.43 Quit courtc (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 10.56.54 Join xushi [0] (n=xushi@unaffiliated/xushi) 10.57.12 Quit xushi (Remote closed the connection) 11.03.34 Quit xushi_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 11.05.20 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 11.08.11 # I'm just uploading the extracted Karma flash upgrade to the wiki in case anyone is interested. 11.08.49 # Probably best not to... We don't normally host firmware files there. 11.09.28 # GodEater: ^ 11.09.42 # * GodEater is pretty sure ukre will complain if there's a problem with it =/ 11.09.43 Quit courtc_ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 11.09.47 Join courtc [0] (n=court@c-24-99-230-218.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) 11.09.53 # shall I host it elsewhere instead then 11.09.55 # ? 11.10.23 Quit Mathiasdm (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 11.10.45 # Isn't is still available on rioaudio.com? 11.11.16 # yes, but this but only as a windows self extracting exe 11.11.23 # I've extracted that and uploaded the content 11.11.36 # to make life easier for our linux only brethren 11.12.49 Quit ol_schoola_ () 11.15.31 # I think a link to rioaudio.com is enough - if a Linux user is struggling to extract, they can always ask someone to help. 11.16.04 Join ol_schoola [0] (n=meatwad@c-67-167-20-91.hsd1.il.comcast.net) 11.17.35 # Often those sfx files are some standard packer format with an executable stub tacked on 11.18.21 # yes - wasn't zip though in this case 11.19.30 # running strings over it produces almost nothing 11.20.34 # so I'd say definitely encrypted somehow 11.20.38 # Ah, "cabextract" works... 11.21.08 # But then just gives another .exe... 11.22.27 # yes 11.22.40 # the bulk of which appears to be the firmware 11.22.46 # with a bit of usb magic on the front 11.25.48 Join Mathiasdm [0] (n=Mathias@vpnc168.ugent.be) 11.28.48 # * GodEater wonders if any bits of ReplayTV are also open source 11.33.03 # * linuxstb wonders if he should expose the ability the use the system font at the same time as the user font in the WPS... 11.34.24 # I'd say just wait for multifont. 11.35.21 Part Llorean 11.36.27 # The advantage of doing it now is that it would keep the viewport tag the same when multifont support is added, and the system font is useful for numerical output, such as times. 11.39.54 # you mean you'll apply a font to the entire viewport ? 11.42.36 # Yes - the lcd drivers support it, it's just currently always set to the UI font when a %V tag is read, rather than adding a parameter to the %V tag. 11.43.06 Join Llorean [0] (n=llorean@70.255.104.96) 11.43.13 Part Llorean 11.43.17 Join Llorean [0] (n=llorean@rockbox/administrator/Llorean) 11.58.10 Quit ender` (" Washing your car to make it rain doesn't work.") 12.04.07 Quit amiconn (" reboot") 12.05.25 Quit GodEater ("Leaving") 12.09.53 Join amiconn [50] (n=jens@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 12.16.18 Join ender` [0] (i=krneki@84-255-206-8.static.t-2.net) 12.18.03 Join Axio_ [0] (n=Axio@alf94-1-81-57-140-233.fbx.proxad.net) 12.19.27 # Another reason to include a font parameter to %V is so that (hopefully..) the existing multi-font patch can use it, meaning themes written to use the multifont patch can just degrade in the official build (until it supports multifont) instead of being rejected. 12.28.23 Quit gnoob (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 12.31.35 Join gnoob [0] (n=ToolBoy@c-71-201-79-143.hsd1.il.comcast.net) 12.33.20 Join Thundercloud [0] (n=thunderc@84-51-130-71.judith186.adsl.metronet.co.uk) 12.40.20 # scorche: you around? 12.40.53 Join lee-qid [0] (n=liqid@p5496513D.dip.t-dialin.net) 12.41.11 Nick Bagder_ is now known as Bagder (n=daniel@1-1-5-26a.hud.sth.bostream.se) 12.42.03 Join kraus [0] (i=taneli@a91-154-101-210.elisa-laajakaista.fi) 12.45.11 # i have the latest rockbox on my ipod video 30gb and Debian lenny (linux) on my computer. The problem is that when i make a file on my ipod that has ä or ö (i'm finnish) in it's filename, rockbox shows it like ä¤. 12.45.22 # so can anyone help? 12.46.51 # pixelma: He said he was going to sleep about an hour ago (in -community) 12.48.02 # linuxstb: ... - thanks for the information though :) 12.51.20 # kraus: did you try if changing the "default codepage" settings (in Rockbox) makes any difference? 12.52.18 Join desowin [0] (n=desowin@atheme/developer/desowin) 12.53.19 Join Schnueff [0] (n=mah@88.134.59.235) 12.54.47 # kraus: That sounds like your linux machine doesn't mount the vfat file system correctly 13.05.23 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 13.06.23 Join Nico_P [50] (n=nicolas@rockbox/developer/NicoP) 13.18.14 Quit kraus ("Leaving") 13.18.22 Join spiorf [0] (n=spiorf@79.20.211.202) 13.22.51 Join moos [0] (i=moos@m237.net81-66-159.noos.fr) 13.28.20 Join BigBambi [0] (n=alex@rockbox/staff/BigBambi) 13.34.24 Join lassesdatamaskin [0] (n=sindre@165.80-202-81.nextgentel.com) 13.35.36 Join Arathis [0] (n=doerk@p508A47E3.dip.t-dialin.net) 13.37.59 Join Redbreva [0] (n=Miranda@host86-144-107-17.range86-144.btcentralplus.com) 13.40.04 # umm 13.40.11 Quit Thundercloud (Remote closed the connection) 13.40.25 # * amiconn broke chessbox and rockboy on archos with yesterday's plugin binsize reduction commit 13.40.47 # Fortunately the fix should be dead simple, trying... 13.44.46 Join mf0102 [0] (n=michi@85.127.182.187) 13.45.23 # Yay, r16000 :) 13.46.56 # * linuxstb was aiming for that ;) 13.47.45 # Next geek revision to aim for: 16384 ;) 13.51.21 Quit j0tt (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 13.56.50 Join jott [0] (n=j@unaffiliated/jott) 13.59.07 Join justinsane [0] (n=justinsa@adsl-dyn27.78-98-175.t-com.sk) 14.00.16 # is there some music player, which can be connected to LAN (wifi, cable) and able to run bittorrent client and RSS ? 14.00.39 # this new sansa can do this ? 14.01.28 # i mean some player which has the hw peripherial, not the BT client 14.02.23 # luuks like sunday lunch in progress here ... 14.02.48 # I don't know of any portable player which can be connected to LAN 14.03.26 # aha so we must wait :) 14.03.47 # i thought some were supported wifi or ? 14.03.56 # zune supports wifi I think 14.04.05 Part pixelma 14.04.07 # but rockbox isn't ported to it 14.04.51 # like this http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/08/sandisk-sansa-connect-wifi-portable-audio-player/ but this is not cheap... 14.05.08 # damn I could've got r16000 14.05.24 # but sansa gives some suppport to open source community (rockbox) ? 14.07.12 # Not really. 14.07.26 Join tedrock [0] (n=tedrock@d235-159-75.home1.cgocable.net) 14.08.08 # justinsane: PDA? 14.09.02 # Oh, or iPod Touch 14.09.47 # With some work (assuming a bittorrent+rss client does not yet exist for iPod Touch), you could get it to work 14.09.54 Quit tedrock (Client Quit) 14.10.25 # pda is good idea, but i hate microsoft :) 14.10.36 # just a little 14.10.40 # * BigBambi plays the grumpy one and points at the topic 14.10.58 Join tedrock [0] (n=tedrock@d235-159-75.home1.cgocable.net) 14.11.40 Join rasher_ [0] (n=rasher@62.79.64.148.adsl.hs.tiscali.dk) 14.11.44 # but got the point, thanks 14.13.50 Quit tedrock (Client Quit) 14.14.37 Join tedrock [0] (n=tedrock@d235-159-75.home1.cgocable.net) 14.16.10 Quit davina (Remote closed the connection) 14.17.09 Join Rondom [0] (n=Rondom@p57A95749.dip.t-dialin.net) 14.17.39 # amiconn: why can't the overlay be clipped to any subset of the area specified in the initial init? (with the notable alignment restrictions of course) 14.18.16 # It could, but the question is whether it's necessary/wanted 14.18.34 # It would bloat the parameters of grey_set_postion from 2 to 6 14.18.49 # 6? 14.19.08 # Yes, x, y, width, height, dest_x, dest_y 14.19.18 # Right now you can only set the last 2 14.19.50 # Another thing that you could try is using buffered mode (always), draw the OSD using the greylib, and still drawing the video with grey_ub_gray_bitmap_part() 14.20.29 # that's what I initially did and had problems 14.20.30 # Should work now, as long as the latter is properly clipped to not overdraw the former 14.20.44 # That was with the old graylib, which did many things different 14.22.20 # There are 2 other, unrelated things which I wanted to ask/point out 14.22.49 # I think a clip rect on screen with four params should be enough to specify clipping the overlay 14.23.23 # (1) The PP5002 problem seems to be something fundamental. I'm not completely sure yet, but it seems that whenever the 1st/2nd Gen build is broken, the 3rd Gen build is broken too, and vice versa 14.23.26 Quit rasher (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 14.23.26 Nick rasher_ is now known as rasher (n=rasher@rockbox/developer/rasher) 14.24.12 # (2) Do you have an idea why doom still freezes/crashes/behaves strangely when voice is enabled? Afaiu it shouldn't do that anymore. But it does... 14.24.36 # amiconn: so builds for those either all work or all don't? 14.24.47 # Seems like it, yes 14.25.03 Join henger [0] (n=henger@p5B0B504B.dip.t-dialin.net) 14.25.28 Part henger 14.25.41 # Would need scientific verification though, building 1st/2nd and 3rd Gen builds on the same machine, without special patches, and then trying different revisions 14.25.46 Join henger [0] (n=henger@p5B0B504B.dip.t-dialin.net) 14.25.55 Part henger 14.25.57 # (2) I have no idea about doom though 14.28.48 # If doom uses the whole audio buffer, then voice being enabled will assume the audio buffer/pcm buffer are still initialized. 14.32.05 Nick fxb__ is now known as fxb (n=felixbru@h1252615.stratoserver.net) 14.33.54 # * amiconn disappears 14.36.01 Join henger [0] (n=henger@p5B0B504B.dip.t-dialin.net) 14.36.18 Part henger 14.41.36 Join gustavonarea [0] (n=gustavon@194.Red-81-34-209.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) 14.43.09 Join Frazz [0] (n=Fraser@thelawsons.plus.com) 14.46.34 # Hello. I'd like to buy a portable music player and I'd like to know what models works better with rockbox? Thanks in advance. 14.48.08 # What do you mean by 'works better' 14.49.56 # Have you read http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/BuyersGuide ? 14.50.13 # Tuplanolla: that rockbox supports it well; that I could install it without dirty workarounds; that most features of rockbox work as expected... 14.50.47 # linuxstb: oh, I'm sorry, i didn't see that page. Thank you! 14.50.48 # Ok, check the link that linuxstb said 14.50.59 # ok, thank you very much! 14.51.01 # I recommend Sandisk Sansa e280 14.51.46 Join Thundercloud [0] (n=thunderc@84-51-130-71.judith186.adsl.metronet.co.uk) 14.51.55 # gustavonarea: Probably best to narrow down to a few units (based on hardware features), and then ask if there are any major issues with any of those. All devices have their quirks. 14.52.29 Join waldo [0] (n=waldo@ip-81-11-218-159.dsl.scarlet.be) 14.52.37 # ok, i will 14.55.24 Nick parafin|away is now known as parafin (i=parafin@paraf.in) 14.56.20 Quit gustavonarea (Remote closed the connection) 14.57.34 Join Thundercloud_ [0] (n=thunderc@84-51-130-71.judith186.adsl.metronet.co.uk) 14.57.34 Quit Thundercloud (Connection reset by peer) 14.58.26 Join obo [0] (n=obo@rockbox/developer/obo) 14.59.56 Join PaulJam [0] (n=pauljam@p54BCD11D.dip.t-dialin.net) 15.00.02 Quit Thundercloud_ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 15.00.24 Join Thundercloud [0] (n=thunderc@84-51-130-71.judith186.adsl.metronet.co.uk) 15.01.41 # jhMikeS: about the freq-scaling -> do i understand correctly that, when switching between normal<->max clock, we always switch to source #1 (24MHz) shortly until the PLL settled? and then switch to source #2, which is PLL-driven? 15.05.24 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 15.08.37 # Buschel: Yes, you switch out the PLL as the clock source temporarily until it stabilizes 15.09.18 # jhMikeS: is there any reason to only use source #2 for the clock? 15.09.57 # Buschel: It's arbitrary. amiconn implemented it that way. 15.10.41 Quit tedrock (Client Quit) 15.10.42 # you can pick any source. did you have the MrH's writup re: the clocking? 15.11.07 # no 15.13.16 # Buschel: I've got it somewhere...have to look around 15.13.35 # thiat would be fine :) 15.13.38 # *that 15.19.38 Join fasmaie [0] (n=yohann@c-24-60-113-125.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) 15.21.19 # Buschel: PM up 15.23.40 Join DC1 [0] (n=dc1@70.107.165.123) 15.31.48 Join davina [0] (n=davina@cpc1-sout6-0-0-cust616.sotn.cable.ntl.com) 15.32.04 Join UncleRemus [0] (n=caj@81-234-174-183-no95.tbcn.telia.com) 15.32.24 # Buschel: We use sources #1 and #2 15.33.00 # Reconfiguring the source we're running from can freeze easily 15.33.44 # * amiconn disappears again 15.33.56 # i still wonder whether i can use source #1 (=24MHz) as normal clock and only use source #2 for PLL driven max clock 15.34.53 Quit Rondom (Nick collision from services.) 15.35.09 Join Rondom [0] (n=Rondom@p57A9460D.dip.t-dialin.net) 15.38.52 Quit Rondom (Nick collision from services.) 15.39.08 Join Rondom [0] (n=Rondom@p57A97114.dip.t-dialin.net) 15.41.38 Join Sockmonkey [0] (i=Sockmonk@88-105-153-13.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) 15.42.09 Quit Sockmonkey (Client Quit) 15.45.38 Join PaulJam_ [0] (n=pauljam@p54BCD11D.dip.t-dialin.net) 15.47.10 Quit PaulJam (Nick collision from services.) 15.47.16 Nick PaulJam_ is now known as PaulJam (n=pauljam@p54BCD11D.dip.t-dialin.net) 15.49.32 Join PaulJam_ [0] (n=pauljam@p54BCD11D.dip.t-dialin.net) 15.50.49 Quit Mathiasdm ("Yuuw!") 15.55.28 Quit tvelocity ("Αποχώρησε") 15.57.21 Quit miepchen^schlaf (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 15.57.26 Join miepchen^schlaf [0] (n=hihi@p54BF5596.dip.t-dialin.net) 16.00.27 Join Lear [0] (i=chatzill@rockbox/developer/lear) 16.07.05 Join mister_pink [0] (n=mister_p@pjrh2.caths.cam.ac.uk) 16.09.20 Quit PaulJam (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 16.10.02 Join Bitym [0] (n=omg1224e@ppp85-141-203-154.pppoe.mtu-net.ru) 16.10.28 Join FunkyELF [0] (n=funkyelf@105.149.243.24.cfl.res.rr.com) 16.10.40 # to update rockbox I just move the new .rockbox folder over right? 16.15.44 # FunkyELF: Yes 16.18.50 Quit gnoob (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 16.19.37 Join gnoob [0] (n=ToolBoy@c-71-201-79-143.hsd1.il.comcast.net) 16.19.59 Part Bitym 16.20.11 Join Bitym [0] (n=omg1224e@ppp85-141-203-154.pppoe.mtu-net.ru) 16.20.39 Quit gnoob (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 16.21.36 Join gnoob [0] (n=ToolBoy@c-71-201-79-143.hsd1.il.comcast.net) 16.21.58 Quit rconan (Connection timed out) 16.31.07 Join shift [0] (n=shift@c211-28-208-31.frank1.vic.optusnet.com.au) 16.31.17 # Hey =] 16.31.27 # I was just wondering.... what's the best player for rb? 16.31.37 # is it still the gigabeat? 16.32.04 # by best I mean supports most of the features and eats the least battery. 16.32.06 # anyone here us Linux? 16.32.29 # yup 16.32.42 # shift: depends on your priorities - video or audio? recording? 16.33.10 # jhMikeS, audio with a bit of video support for like 15 second clips maybe.... being able to play movies would be great but... I dont' care. 16.33.39 # I can't figure out how to unzip all these themes that I downloaded and have them be in the right directory 16.33.46 Join MethoS- [0] (n=clemens@pD955BF4F.dip.t-dialin.net) 16.33.48 # shift: probably an x5 if sound quality is important. e200 is also good if a small player is wanted. 16.34.21 # some of them start at .rockbox and some of them don't have that and just have the wps, fonts, backdrop directories 16.34.35 # so I unzip all of them but then how do I merge them? 16.34.59 # Buschel, are your last two battery benchmarks in IpodRuntime correct as written? Identical times with and without WPS? 16.35.09 Quit duvnel1 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 16.35.19 # soap: yes, i also wondered about it. 16.35.28 # FunkyELF, I dont know what you mean, I just use xarchiver. 16.35.54 # so how much would the x5 go for? can't find it on ebay. 16.38.21 # perhaps MPC is more efficient enough that it is the difference between my WPS leading to additional boosting and your WPS not? 16.40.39 # just thought the same, just doing some testing with 24MHz as default -- i'll see :) 16.41.04 # FunkyELF: "unzip theme.zip -d /mnt/" (replacing /mnt/ with whereever your device is mounted) 16.41.32 # Buschel, I _don't_ have an inline ammeter hooked up - is there anything I can do to help test? 16.41.45 # soap: musepack uses ~24MHz for ~180-190kbps 16.43.09 Quit Rondom ("Ex-Chat") 16.43.35 # soap: my last i2c test worked but did not show _any_ savings. and the most interesting thin for me right now is the PLL-stuff -- but we need to wait for saratoga to do some measurements as the cpu slaing is not stable enough to perform runtime tests... 16.43.52 # soap: thanks for your support so far 16.45.07 # too much typos... should take a break now... 16.45.42 Join rconan [0] (n=richard@client-82-2-57-235.brnt.adsl.virgin.net) 16.46.35 Join YippMN [0] (n=dwayne@mn-71-55-159-222.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) 16.46.38 Join merbanan [0] (n=banan@83.233.242.168) 16.47.18 # i don't see anywhere in the rockbox manual for the sansa e260 about how to install new themes , am i missing something? 16.48.01 Quit rconan (Remote closed the connection) 16.48.14 # YippMN: download theme, then extract to the device. it's simple 16.49.57 # oh so you just extract into the device no particular folder or anything just like with the .rockbox? 16.50.14 Join rconan [0] (n=richard@client-82-2-57-235.brnt.adsl.virgin.net) 16.50.25 # The theme _should_ have the correct folder structure in the .zip - all the files go inside .rockbox 16.51.19 Quit lee-qid ("aufwiederbyebientotsayonara") 16.51.32 Join lee-qid [0] (n=liqid@p5496513D.dip.t-dialin.net) 16.52.08 # oh , ok, so i extract the theme into the .rockbox folder 16.52.40 Quit rconan (Remote closed the connection) 16.53.17 # The zip file should contain .rockbox in the filenames, so you extract to the root of your device. 16.53.33 # ok 16.57.59 Join kugel [0] (i=kugel@unaffiliated/kugel) 16.58.41 Quit Thundercloud (Remote closed the connection) 16.58.51 # linuxstb: I've got a question concerning viewports. You added this font stuff recently, but I don't get it 16.59.21 # What don't you get? 16.59.28 # linuxstb: Does the number stand for the user fonts created with multifont patch? 16.59.59 # No, I explained what the numbers mean. 17.00.14 # 0 -> System font (6x8 built into Rockbox), 1 -> User font. 17.00.29 # and other values are not rejected 17.00.39 # what does that mean? 17.00.43 # Yes, anything else -> User font 17.01.04 # But the intention is that the multifont patch can now be updated to work with viewports, without changing the %V syntax. 17.02.32 # wouldn't it be better to integrate the user font part of multifont in vp? 17.02.50 # Feel free... 17.03.11 # k, thanks for your help 17.03.18 # But the current multifont patch isn't suitable for svn - it's needs to use a single unified cache, rather than one cache per font (IIUC). 17.05.06 # do you mean the glyph files? 17.05.27 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 17.05.36 # I mean the glyphs (bitmaps) themselves. 17.08.28 # I'm not too familar with the multifont patch, I just know it consists of two parts, the different fonts for different screens and the multiple fonts for wps (user font), and I thought the first part won't get committed anyway 17.11.57 Join Triple-z [0] (n=Mp3@212.143.152.135) 17.12.06 # hello 17.12.18 # kugel: The part I care about is the implementation in the core font code. That needs to be better. 17.12.50 # somehow i got my sansa e280 almost bricked 17.13.01 # rockbox stuck 17.13.19 # and i dont have the OF.bin so i cant boot to the of 17.13.38 Join GodEater [50] (n=bryan@rockbox/staff/GodEater) 17.13.45 # i try recovery mode few times 17.13.58 # but i guess im doing something wrong 17.14.04 # jhMikeS: the H10_cpu_frq.txt does not fully match to what we do? 17.14.51 Join duvnel1 [0] (n=ddurham@c-76-107-111-150.hsd1.ms.comcast.net) 17.15.03 # may I ask development questions here? 17.15.19 # duvnel1: by all means 17.16.50 # ok, this question deals with the button_task() function in firmware/drivers/button.c 17.19.18 # You mean button_tick() ? 17.19.55 # sry.. yes 17.20.43 # I'm trying to implement support for the scrollpad on the iRiver H10 17.23.03 # since the button_read_device() function is called every tick, I was going to have it send alternating button off, button on states for the BUTTON_SCROLL_DOWN button each time it's called 17.23.23 # this would return states AS IF the user were rapidly pressing the DOWN button 17.23.30 # (and all this for the UP button as well) 17.23.46 # I made the changes but found something strange 17.25.21 # I have to return the button pressed state for at least 2 ticks and then button released (i.e. 0) for at least 3 ticks for the calling code to recognize it as button press then release events 17.25.44 # I cannot just return pressed for 1 tick and then released for 1 tick.. it doesn't do anything if I do that 17.26.27 # 2 ticks pressed and 2 ticks released is not enough either... it requires at least 3 ticks released.. which seems strange 17.27.23 # this works, but the maximum scroll rate you can do with your finger is little less than half what it should be.. so I wanted to ask if you might know what the deal is with that 17.27.26 # any ideas? 17.27.38 # I can clarify if something I wrote doesn't make sense 17.30.32 # I don't know, but if you wait, hopefully someone who has a clue will read the logs. 17.30.52 # k thx 17.31.08 # I'm going to start inspecting the calling code a bit more 17.31.20 Nick PaulJam_ is now known as PaulJam (n=pauljam@p54BCD11D.dip.t-dialin.net) 17.33.35 # any convenient ways of getting some debugging feedback? a console? a unversal beep function? etc? 17.34.00 # Not really... You can try splash() 17.34.05 # logf 17.34.10 # Or logf... 17.34.31 # or jtag, if there is one, and you have the hardware to use it... 17.35.24 # k, I'll try those 17.36.17 Quit gnoob (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 17.37.20 # Buschel: not fully. things are actually more general than in that text re: clock source it seems. 17.38.46 Join gnoob [0] (n=ToolBoy@c-71-201-79-143.hsd1.il.comcast.net) 17.41.11 # where does logf() go? 17.44.26 # arg.. goes to the remote's lcd.. I don't have one :( 17.44.33 Quit Lear ("ChatZilla 0.9.79 [Firefox 3.0b3pre/2007123005]") 17.44.57 Join Dark_Apostrophe [0] (n=darkapos@supporter/monthlybyte/DarkApostrophe) 17.45.36 # You use it like printf. You'll need to #include in the source file(s) using it, plus enable it by adding #define ENABLE_LOGF _before_ the #include 17.45.36 # (this lets us leave logfs in the code, which are only enabled temporarily) 17.45.36 # And then you can view the logf buffer via the debug menu - that's where they go. 17.45.47 Join cg|aw [0] (n=cromos@dsl-olubrasgw1-ff28c100-186.dhcp.inet.fi) 17.46.05 # jhMikeS: e.g. PROC_CTL(CUR_CORE) = 0x4800001f; is used when setting 24HMz. the document sais it shall be used for PLL-clocking... 17.46.13 # linuxstb: perhaps a new item shows up in the debug menu if I enable logf? 17.46.27 # linuxstb: I didn't see anything in the dbg menu that might show that right now 17.46.29 # jhMike: also the values which are set the CPU/COP-control registers are different 17.46.44 Join advcomp2019_ [0] (n=advcomp2@unaffiliated/advcomp2019) 17.47.04 # duvnel1: You also need to compile a "logf build" - you choose it via tools/configure 17.47.08 Quit advcomp2019 (Nick collision from services.) 17.47.19 Nick advcomp2019_ is now known as advcomp2019 (n=advcomp2@unaffiliated/advcomp2019) 17.47.21 Join DerDome [0] (n=DerDome@dslb-082-083-221-090.pools.arcor-ip.net) 17.47.39 # duvnel1: i'm not sure if this is related, but button.c seems to have some debouncing going on around line 500 17.47.44 Nick cg|aw is now known as cg (n=cromos@dsl-olubrasgw1-ff28c100-186.dhcp.inet.fi) 17.47.58 # ah.. checking 17.48.33 # cg: ahah.. I'll try #undefing that 17.49.11 Join Thundercloud [0] (n=thunderc@84-51-130-71.judith186.adsl.metronet.co.uk) 17.49.34 Quit GodEater ("Leaving") 17.50.36 Quit Febs (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 17.52.50 Join Febs [0] (n=chatzill@207-172-204-33.c3-0.rdl-ubr4.trpr-rdl.pa.cable.rcn.com) 17.56.04 # Buschel: yes, but those are just delays that stop the other core for a certain number of clock cycles 17.56.26 # or the same core 17.57.26 # ah, ok. 17.58.19 Quit DC1 ("If Obi-wan ain't home then I don't know what the fsck we're gonna do. I ain't got no other connections on Tattooine.") 17.58.32 # cg: YES! that worked.. 1 tick up and 1 tick down works now and it's fast 17.59.59 Quit Bitym (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 18.00.39 Quit YippMN ("Leaving") 18.00.43 # cool.. and now with my original code back in, the scrollpad on the iriver H10 now works 18.00.46 # got some tweaking to do tho 18.02.04 # might be able to have a "tap" press select.. not sure 18.02.22 Join m0f0x_ [0] (n=m0f0x@189-47-36-4.dsl.telesp.net.br) 18.03.52 # jhMikeS: do you have any idea why switching between default and max clock (instead of normal and max) is instable? 18.03.59 Quit shift ("Error: Success") 18.05.21 Join justinsa1e [0] (n=justinsa@adsl-dyn119.91-127-66.t-com.sk) 18.06.40 Join shift [0] (n=shift@c211-28-208-31.frank1.vic.optusnet.com.au) 18.07.49 # I might be about to order the X5... can I get any final suggestions on a player to get, mainly for audio but for a bit of eyecandy like the gameboy emulator for the hell of it on the side? 18.08.23 # and would it be possible to watch movies from it? would the battery die fast? 18.08.42 # Should I just browse the rockbox page and stop annoying you with stupid questions? 18.09.43 Join Arathis2 [0] (n=doerk@p508A7D64.dip.t-dialin.net) 18.10.16 Quit m0f0x (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 18.10.43 Join lazka [0] (n=lazka@84.119.30.206) 18.13.28 # shift: already read this? http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/BuyersGuide 18.13.47 Join jayharu [0] (n=jayharu@212.118.123.20) 18.13.58 # moos, hey thanks... never came accross it actually. Thank you =) 18.14.42 # e200 looks like a winner. 18.14.54 # no problem, choosing a player is really tasty 18.15.05 Quit desowin ("KVIrc 3.2.6 Anomalies http://www.kvirc.net/") 18.15.22 Quit Arathis (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 18.16.53 # it is tasty.... actually looking for the exact one might be not as tasty 18.17.43 Join stewball [0] (n=WTFOMGBB@91.104.223.226) 18.18.23 # shift: I meant taste depending 18.18.41 # lol, I know. 18.19.09 Join JohnEK [0] (n=johnkooi@CPE000f3dbac653-CM001692f1a3e8.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) 18.20.18 # if I was to order the e200 directly from sandisk.com........ would they ship me a v2 one? 18.21.27 Quit justinsane (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 18.24.10 # shift: since the v1 is out of production, I guess "yes" 18.24.24 # =( 18.24.44 # try ebay maybe? 18.25.05 # not around. 18.25.10 # shift, buy.com refurbs may be v1, and someone has claimed that walmart does too 18.25.59 # no walmart in australia =) 18.26.37 # oh, then you're going to have a hard time finding one, other than ebay :-/ 18.26.57 # yay =( 18.26.58 # unless you can find an australian shop that sells refurbs 18.27.00 Part justinsa1e 18.27.11 # what do you mean by 'refurb'? 18.27.38 # sansas that got RMA'd 18.27.45 # shift: Which state are you in? 18.27.49 # Victoria. 18.27.59 # i.e. when buyers didn't like it, they send it back to the distributor 18.28.12 # if they sell it again it's a refurb 18.28.12 # oh 18.28.25 Quit jayharu () 18.28.43 # nothing to worry about, refurbs are fully functional 18.29.07 # not worried, just didn't know about that. 18.29.53 # I'd hate to have to do with an ipod again =/ 18.31.01 Join Bjoern-Erik [0] (n=Bjoern@148.80-202-110.nextgentel.com) 18.31.37 Quit Arathis2 ("Bye, bye") 18.32.34 Join webguest62 [0] (n=42444ee1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-98f4725d74f6e2ea) 18.33.49 # or I can just stick with my old 3gb ipod mini which doesn't even have a screen anymore. =/ 18.33.58 # i think i know one thing the v2s are in boxes like the view.. basically all blue 18.34.25 # hmm... might check a few stores and see which ones they're actually selling. 18.34.29 # shift, you can add voice and talk clips to make it functional again ;-) 18.34.39 Join Arathis [0] (n=doerk@p508A7D64.dip.t-dialin.net) 18.35.01 # krazykit, that's exactly what I did... have been using it for about a year since the screen broke.... just took it out. 18.37.31 # krazykit, have been trying to scab a screen off someone who's ipod it competly broken.... no luck =(. 18.38.42 # If I stop playback and enter a plugin and then call a function that returns info about the current track would it return info about the stopped track? 18.39.39 Join advcomp2019_ [0] (n=advcomp2@unaffiliated/advcomp2019) 18.40.13 Quit advcomp2019 (Nick collision from services.) 18.40.14 Nick advcomp2019_ is now known as advcomp2019 (n=advcomp2@unaffiliated/advcomp2019) 18.42.03 Quit linuxstb (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 18.49.01 Quit Triple-z () 18.49.32 Join toffe82 [0] (n=chatzill@adsl-71-154-232-226.dsl.frs2ca.sbcglobal.net) 18.49.41 Quit stewball () 18.50.43 # is the v2 issue that the hardware is completly unsupported or that nobody got around to porting yet? 18.52.04 Join TMM [0] (n=hp@c5147518c.cable.wanadoo.nl) 18.52.44 # v2 ipods? 18.53.23 # ah sorry... v2 Sansa e200s 18.53.43 # s being... plural.... not model. 18.54.40 Quit jhMikeS (Nick collision from services.) 18.54.46 Join jhMikeS [50] (n=jethead7@rockbox/developer/jhMikeS) 18.54.50 Join mrkiko [0] (n=pv@adsl-ull-136-203.42-151.net24.it) 18.55.02 Quit shift ("Error: Success") 18.55.03 # Hi all again! 18.55.18 # A simple question - is mpegplayer supposed to run even on iRiver? 18.55.22 # H3xx? 18.55.25 Join shift [0] (n=shift@c211-28-208-31.frank1.vic.optusnet.com.au) 18.55.28 # Pretty sure the hardware isn't supported 18.55.52 # webguest62: can you explain yourself better? 18.55.56 Join nanok [0] (n=nanok@194.145.183.75) 18.55.57 # ok I just read over the forum thread... seems like there's just nobody working on it yet. 18.56.08 # can I hide main menu items depending on a setting? 18.56.09 # hello. happy new year to you all 18.56.23 # wasn't that like a week ago? 18.56.42 # mrkiko: I just got it from here: http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=14523.0 18.56.42 # shift: the new year? 18.56.47 # nanok, yes. 18.56.48 # * nanok should use ntp.. 18.56.50 # :) 18.56.55 # og 18.56.58 # OH 18.57.07 # shift: it was, but i wasn't here a week ago 18.57.20 # so better later than never 18.57.39 # wait mrkiko, i was answering shift's question. Look here to see If Iriver has any plugin: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/PluginIndex 18.57.47 # I think you should be able to run mpegplayer 18.57.48 # nanok, ah fair enough.... think in some cultured it's considered rude to wish after a holiday.... guess not in general though. 18.58.19 # shift: ahm, sorry, i didn't know that 18.58.39 # nanok, no need to be sorry... what do I care. >.> 18.58.46 # webguest62: strange 18.58.57 # in my "culture" we say happy new year whenever we get to see the other party after the new year has come. be it summer, doesn't matter :) 18.59.21 # what? 18.59.40 # nm, this is offtopic. carry on 18.59.42 # :) 18.59.52 # webguest62: strange the fact that the iRiver H3xx hardware is not supported relating mpegplayer 18.59.53 # lol 19.00.00 # I'm using this player to play mp3 with rockbox 19.00.49 # will I get shot in the face for an ipod linux related question? 19.01.19 # sure 19.01.27 # shift: may be you're better posting it in the rockbox-community channel, if you feel someone of us can help 19.01.46 # shift: with a double barelled shotgun :) 19.01.52 # or, better again, post it to the #ipodlinux irc channel 19.01.53 # lol 19.02.09 # mrkiko: that plugin index page says that every iriver model supports mpegplayer 19.02.11 # thanks 19.02.55 # webguest62: thank you. I was asking this since when I start mpegplayer in my player, the player simply freezes; and I should turn it off kepping "stop" pressed 19.03.46 # Maybe it's the file 19.03.47 # mrkiko: that sounds like a bug.. 19.03.58 # are you using the most recent version 19.05.17 # webguest62: no, I admin I'm using a firmware snapshot from 23 dec or so 19.05.30 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 19.06.23 # mrkiko: probably you should try other files, the current build, and if still occurs, check if there's a bug report, file one if not 19.07.24 # mrkiko: mpgplayer can now seek, just update 19.07.30 Quit webguest62 ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 19.07.30 # nanok: thank you 19.07.53 Join webguest32 [0] (n=42444ee1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-7eec9e485fea9237) 19.08.14 # mrkiko: no problem, that's the litle i can do :) 19.09.16 # btw, during the holiday i went on a drive for about 18 hours. my sansa went on for about 16, continuosly 19.09.49 # not much fidling, just some occasional skipping. mp3's and ogg's of various bitrates 19.10.07 # quite impressive 19.10.53 # nanok - do you know anything about the playback system of rockbox? 19.11.13 # no crossfeed though (sounds like in a cave, in the car, so i disabled it :) ) 19.11.46 # webguest32: that's a bit of a vague question, try to be more specific 19.12.03 # most probably the answer is no, but there surely is somebody here who knows more than me 19.12.07 # ;) 19.12.28 # (read: who actualy designed the damn thing and coded it :) ) 19.15.01 # yes, well i was just asking because i'm trying to program something to do with getting id3 info 19.15.12 # there seem to be about 6 functions that do it 19.15.26 Join bertrik [0] (n=Bertrik_@156-022-045-062.dynamic.caiway.nl) 19.16.21 # webguest32: ahm, okay. so your question is about internals, down deep to the gory details :) 19.16.43 # in that case i can't help, unfortunately 19.16.48 # alright 19.17.01 # well then i'm off to do some reading! 19.17.13 # only one idea: the databse has that info stored usually, if that cuts it for you, maybe that's the "sane" way to go about it 19.17.54 # that is, unless you have some reason to get the info from the file directly, instead of querying the db 19.18.10 # I think that is what i'm going to do. 19.18.46 # I'm trying to determine whether or not if i load a plugin after stopping playback and then attempt to get the info for the currently playing track if it will work 19.20.59 # well, if i am not mistaking that info will allways be in the "current" playlist 19.21.07 Quit miepchen^schlaf (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 19.21.13 Join miepchen^schlaf [0] (n=hihi@p54BF6447.dip.t-dialin.net) 19.21.40 # rockbox allways uses a playlist to handle playback, so if you can access that it should work even if you don't have the db enabled 19.22.27 # but this is more guessing on my part than knowing, the real devs will hopefully come out and shoot me in the face if i am talking rubish 19.23.11 # that might work 19.23.32 # you mean the shotgun aproach? oh, it allways does 19.23.33 # The only problem might be that if i stop playback there would be no currently playing track 19.23.33 # :) 19.23.50 # (in that case i could look for the previous track) 19.24.28 # webguest32: i think there is, rockbox is usually aware of where it stopped, so the info is somewhere (don;t ask me where and in what form, though) 19.25.06 Join linuxstb [0] (n=chatzill@84.Red-217-125-28.staticIP.rima-tde.net) 19.25.24 # yeah, i see your point. you would have to complicate things a bit: "if we're stopped, look at $previous, if we're paused, look at $current" and so on 19.25.51 # maybe there's a more direct way, but i don't know nearly enough internals to say if there is.. 19.28.13 # maybe a silly question, but doesn't the viewports patch make the %m tags obsolete? why doesn't the patch remove the %m ? 19.30.32 Quit m0f0x_ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 19.32.19 # In theory they're obsolete, but there's one feature of %m not duplicated by viewports (yet?) - the ability to use it conditionally to (e.g.) expand text to cover the space for cover art when there is no space for cover art. 19.32.36 # ^remove the last "space" 19.32.55 # nanok: I could also look at the resume information (wherever that is stored) 19.33.36 # webguest32: good point 19.34.43 Quit shift ("Error: Success") 19.36.30 Join m0f0x_ [0] (n=m0f0x@189-47-47-246.dsl.telesp.net.br) 19.42.46 Join ol_schoola_ [0] (n=meatwad@c-67-167-20-91.hsd1.il.comcast.net) 19.42.56 Quit webguest32 ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 19.43.19 Quit ol_schoola (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 19.43.22 Quit MethoS- (Remote closed the connection) 19.44.53 Quit Nico_P (Remote closed the connection) 19.46.30 Quit JohnEK () 19.46.36 Join JohnEK [0] (n=johnkooi@CPE000f3dbac653-CM001692f1a3e8.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) 19.54.05 # Buschel, (or anyone else) 19.55.14 # I have a cheap RadioShack volt-ohm meter. I could use this to measure the power consumption of a PortalPlayer target - but the question remains - how do I compensate for the varying power consumption when boosted vs. when not boosted? 19.55.45 # The multimeter has a serial output - would I need to write a program to calculate the average amp draw over time? 19.56.23 # Or would the simpler plan be to simply force the player to boost - and then perform the tests? 19.56.25 # soap: the most needed measurements right now will work without the need for boost/unboost. 19.56.46 # soap: yes, or directly forcing boost 19.56.56 # and a Sansa is adequate for your tests? 19.57.10 # or do you need it done on an iPod, or a specific iPod? 19.57.54 # is there a way to create an iPod database file in such a way that you can play your files under /Music from within the apple firmware? 19.58.04 # soap: in fact i do not know. hopefully we can transfer the results from sansa to ipods. 19.59.05 # (as I explained before) opening up my 5th gen iPod isn't going to happen anytime soon - but I could open my Nano and remove the battery, or remove the battery from my E200 and do the testing. 19.59.17 # (need to order the "spud bars" to open the Nano) 19.59.45 Join ompaul [0] (n=ompaul@gnewsense/friend/ompaul) 20.00.07 # and need to make a USB extension cable with an inline tap on (I assume) the +5v line to put the ampmeter inline. 20.00.11 Join MethoS- [0] (n=clemens@pD955BF4F.dip.t-dialin.net) 20.00.40 Quit Schnueff ("leaving") 20.01.03 Join shotofadds [0] (n=5101671d@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-533e8711b20e38f4) 20.01.50 # I registered an account on Flyspray (same username) and clicked the confirmation link, but I can't log in. Is there something else I need to do? 20.04.31 Quit Gnu47 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 20.07.04 # FunkyELF: The Apple firmware (especially newer versions) has quite small filename length limits, so it's not really practical. But there are tools around to build such databases (maybe gtkpod, some plugin(s) for foobar) 20.08.04 # linuxstb: ok, i didn't think of that (concerning the %m tags) 20.09.53 # shotofadds: I can't remember... Bagder/LinusN/Zagor are our admins (mainly Zagor I think for Flyspray), but they're not around atm... 20.10.42 # soap: Thanks for the viewports builds - I assume you meant r16000, not r1600 though? 20.13.30 # linuxstb, too bad it needs to be FAT32....if it allowed symbolic links then you could have the file with the full name and a symbolic link to it with a shorter name 20.14.06 # Or just don't use the Apple firmware ;) 20.14.45 # linuxstb, I like the rockbox firmware better but I like having options. For example to play movies or have the battery last twice as long 20.15.28 # linuxstb, but while I'm in my car I like to use rockbox since I'm not going to be watching movies and I can charge it while its plugged in 20.16.20 Join Alonea [0] (n=chatzill@69.92.201.36) 20.16.35 # linuxstb, oops :) 20.18.53 # is the decoder (e.g. mp3) running on cop during normal playback? 20.19.28 # No, nothing is on the COP during normal playback. 20.19.34 # ok. 20.19.48 # (IIUC) 20.20.43 # Depends on the codec. 20.20.52 # Right now I believe only SPC makes use of the cop 20.21.45 Join Lynx [0] (n=lynx@tina-10-4.genetik.uni-koeln.de) 20.22.58 Join Farpnut [0] (n=asd@60.52.68.26) 20.22.58 Quit Farp (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 20.23.36 # linuxstb, fixed (both in the forums and on the builds' naming) 20.24.22 # and I know jack squat about the Archos players. 20.24.51 Quit SirFunk (Remote closed the connection) 20.24.53 # I am assuming doing 2MB builds will be universal? (same as 32MB is universal for iPod Videos) 20.25.28 # Yes, the 8MB builds are for people that have soldered more/different RAM into their device... 20.25.40 # (side note - the Archos build compile _fast_!) 20.25.52 # Indeed... 20.27.28 # *builds 20.27.34 # Yeah, no codecs... 20.27.51 # Archos needs less than half the time of a typical swcodec build here 20.31.52 Join bertrik_ [0] (n=Bertrik_@240-022-045-062.dynamic.caiway.nl) 20.35.58 Quit miepchen^schlaf (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 20.36.13 Join miepchen^schlaf [0] (n=hihi@p54BF6447.dip.t-dialin.net) 20.38.10 Quit Lynx_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 20.38.11 Nick Lynx is now known as Lynx_ (n=lynx@tina-10-4.genetik.uni-koeln.de) 20.39.12 Join Robin0800 [0] (n=Robin080@cpc2-brig8-0-0-cust498.brig.cable.ntl.com) 20.42.22 Quit fasmaie (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 20.42.31 Quit ol_schoola_ () 20.43.01 Join ol_schoola [0] (n=meatwad@c-67-167-20-91.hsd1.il.comcast.net) 20.44.22 Quit Arathis ("Bye, bye") 20.45.59 Join draeath [0] (n=paul_b8@192.30.100.251) 20.46.47 # just wanted to say rockbox is awsome... just threw it on my sansa e200R and it's just about PERFECT (the incomplete parts far outweigh the gains, and blow the Sansa firmware away) 20.47.08 # especially thanks for the FLAC support 20.47.24 Quit PaulJam (".") 20.48.24 Quit bertrik (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 20.48.47 Nick bertrik_ is now known as bertrik (n=Bertrik_@240-022-045-062.dynamic.caiway.nl) 20.58.05 Join billenium [0] (n=billeniu@c-69-249-243-110.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) 21.01.15 # amiconn: I've just checked the viewports bin size increase on a Recorder build - the firmware/ changes add 428 bytes, but the apps/ changes add another 1008 bytes... 21.03.18 # is there a list somewhere of what rockbox can do? 21.03.51 # billenium, the WhyRockbox lists some of it. the manual has pretty much everything though ;-) 21.04.10 # whats the WhyRockbox list? 21.04.20 # it's on the wiki 21.04.24 # ty 21.05.31 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 21.06.25 Join Mathiasdm [0] (n=Mathias@d54C597B6.access.telenet.be) 21.06.57 # silly question: is it possible to do database update/initialize in the forground rather than the background? I want to watch it's progress... (the debug (keep out!) DB status page seems to always show -1%) 21.07.54 Join jayharu [0] (n=syaoran_@212.118.115.64) 21.14.47 Quit Alonea (Remote closed the connection) 21.14.47 Quit moos (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 21.14.53 Join moos [0] (i=moos@m237.net81-66-159.noos.fr) 21.16.57 # oogabooga moos 21.17.30 Join ptw419 [0] (n=ptw419@cpe-72-179-164-213.satx.res.rr.com) 21.18.08 # linuxstb: in the meantime a first attempt at a D2 patch is at http://pastebin.ca/842978 - it's a simple test program (bootloader build) similar to the DAX code in svn. Let me know of any comments and i'll pick them up from the logs (particularly the way I've implemented I2C, hopefully other targets can re-use it). 21.19.58 Join Alonea [0] (n=chatzill@69.92.201.36) 21.24.48 Quit Alonea (Remote closed the connection) 21.26.38 Join Alonea [0] (n=chatzill@69.92.201.36) 21.30.12 # shotofadds: I've only had a quick read through, but it looks good to me. 21.31.21 Quit bertrik ("bye") 21.32.26 Quit Alonea (Remote closed the connection) 21.33.20 # linuxstb: thanks, i'll try and harass Zagor to let me put it on the tracker :-) 21.33.24 Join YippMN [0] (n=dwayne@mn-71-55-159-222.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) 21.34.19 # i'm trying to add a theme , in a sansa e260 , and ive droppee the theme in the root , but it only shows up in the files folder , can't add it when browsing themes ? 21.34.49 # The theme should go in .rockbox/ 21.35.13 # YippMN, you should be to extract the theme to the root of your player just like you would a new build. it should have the proper directory structure 21.36.17 # hmm ok well ok which is it , put it on the root , or into the .rockbox folder 21.36.34 # by root i'm assuming that means just dropping it to the e260? 21.36.54 # sort of 21.37.25 # i said to extract the zip 21.37.45 # the theme.zip SHOULD have a .rockbox folder in it with the theme files where they should be 21.37.48 # the root is just the player where .rockbox and my music folder and such are, so do i accually have to put the theme into the .bockbox folder then 21.37.54 Quit Mathiasdm ("Yuuw!") 21.38.20 # yes the theme does have a .rockbox in it 21.38.28 Join hannesd [0] (n=light@gate-hannes-tdsl.imos.net) 21.38.36 # you should be able to copy that .rockbox into the root and everything will be in place 21.38.47 # so i dropped it on the device but it just shows up in files , and not when i go to the browse themes area 21.38.58 # what theme? 21.39.12 # What files do you see in Files ? 21.40.08 # the theme is acotil_greens, and i se that file name in files , so i have a folder for that in the root and the .rockbox folder there also for the firmware 21.40.19 Quit jayharu () 21.40.44 # i extracted the theme zip to the e260 21.40.56 # YippMN, your unzip program is doing things wrong then, if there is an "acotil_greens" folder. 21.42.02 # krazykit, how so? 21.42.52 # it should just put the .rockbox folder right in the root. it doesn't seem to do that. 21.43.23 # move the .rockbox directory that's in the acotil_greens folder into the root of your player 21.44.10 # ok what exactly is mean't by the root of my player :) 21.44.35 Join Alonea [0] (n=chatzill@69.92.201.36) 21.44.51 # when i ope the e260 on my machine i have the .rockbox folder and music and photo folders and so on i assume thats the root then 21.45.55 # ok i must have done somthing wrong before ,as now i extracted the theme and all the files are now in .rockbox properly it seems 21.47.18 # ahh ok nevermind i'm now able to select the theme in browse themes cool :) 21.47.44 # for future reference, "root of the device" means, in windows anyway, what's right on the drive letter, basically. 21.48.01 Quit nanok (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 21.48.09 # krazykit, well i'm running linux gentoo , but i know what you mean :) 21.48.16 # oh, so it's the mount point then 21.48.56 # yes there you go i couldn't think whats its called 21.49.13 # so i have acotil_greens theme runing now :) 21.49.33 # , noe to better figure out resizing bmp's for back drops :) 21.50.35 # YippMN: There's a short Linux shell script on the AlbumArt wiki page to help with that. 21.51.29 # linuxstb, oh there is , is there a link from rockbox to the albumart wiwki then 21.51.57 # All wiki pages can be accessed via http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/AlbumArt 21.51.58 # (you know what I mean...) 21.56.40 Join Fraser [0] (n=Fraser@thelawsons.plus.com) 21.56.48 # i can get to the album art wiki , hmm but don't see a link to album art on the wikik page hmm 21.57.30 # it says the topic doen't exist yet? 22.00.01 Quit YippMN ("Leaving") 22.02.04 Quit Fraser ("Leaving") 22.02.49 # i just "cd" to the mountpoint, and do "unzip /path/to/theme.zip" 22.02.52 # works just fine. 22.05.39 Join jhulst [0] (n=jhulst@unaffiliated/jhulst) 22.07.33 Quit DerDome (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 22.08.06 Join Fraser [0] (n=Fraser@thelawsons.plus.com) 22.10.41 Join advcomp2019_ [0] (n=advcomp2@unaffiliated/advcomp2019) 22.10.51 Quit advcomp2019 (Nick collision from services.) 22.10.57 Nick advcomp2019_ is now known as advcomp2019 (n=advcomp2@unaffiliated/advcomp2019) 22.13.45 Quit Frazz (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 22.16.12 Join DerDome [0] (n=DerDome@dslb-082-083-221-090.pools.arcor-ip.net) 22.17.35 Join Casainho [0] (n=chatzill@87-196-211-121.net.novis.pt) 22.17.41 Quit Dark_Apostrophe (Remote closed the connection) 22.21.08 # Bagder: are you there? 22.21.15 # hello RB people! :-) 22.21.16 # yeps 22.21.30 # I have a question about hardware, ARMs... 22.21.33 # okok 22.21.51 # I would like to know If RB must work with an ARM9? 22.22.03 # must work? 22.22.19 # or an ARM7 will be ok, will have enought power? 22.22.26 # Rockbox currently runs on ARM7 and ARM9 22.23.04 # well, can you estimate if ARM7 is with 50% busy, top work load of ARM7? 22.23.26 # I would go with something faster - to support CPU-heavy codecs such as the high complexity AAC profiles (and Monkey's) 22.23.29 # thinking in future, going to ARM7 is ok? 22.23.58 # ARM7 at what clock rate? 22.24.25 # ok, I don't know, can you please say values, like ARM7 at 80MHz? 22.24.47 # I saw that ARM9 have much higher clock... 22.25.07 # yes, ARM7 is a bit of yday's tech 22.25.15 # "i like the ARM7 ones because they are relatively cheap, come in QFP package and consume lower power when compared to ARM9." 22.25.29 # spark said that.... 22.25.42 # so, we should go for ARM9? 22.26.14 # I would, but I don't have the same objectives you do 22.26.18 # Have fun, use the i.MX31 ;) 22.27.11 # Bagder: yes, I think you mean :-) :-) I said "we" :-) 22.27.32 # yes, and I thus made the distinction 22.27.50 # it's not a joke 22.28.32 # I like a player being able to play videos, run weirdo codecs and have room for other fun things 22.28.35 # ok linuxstb , but everyone is talking just in ARM, I think others just know, have experiencies with ARM... 22.29.02 # The i.MX31 _is_ ARM. 22.29.23 # at that case Bagder, why not Linux ? :-) 22.29.36 # linuxstb: ah, okok :-) 22.29.41 # what would that offer? 22.29.53 # Rockbox is crafted to do a good player, Linux is not 22.30.05 # Linux is a generic OS 22.30.31 # Bagder: no need to make things, since there is already players for multimedia on Linux... 22.30.47 # you talk nonsense now Casainho 22.30.57 # how would they make a good portable player? 22.31.01 # maybe, I am not experiencied.. 22.31.05 # * linuxstb has yet to find a decent linux audio player, even on the desktop.... 22.31.10 # * BigBambi too 22.31.16 # I want foobar on linux 22.31.22 # :) 22.31.36 # I'm very well aware of Linux, even embedded as I've worked with that for like 7-8 years by now 22.32.23 # still, if you want to build a portable media player, I say Rockbox is by far the better option 22.32.34 # well, for me the important is the fact that on Linux I can see almost every video file and listem almost every audio file - that not happens on original firmwares of DAPS... 22.32.47 # Casainho: on a portable player? 22.32.53 # And it won't happen if you put mplayer on an ARM7... 22.33.12 # those apps you talk about are good on multi-ghz intel cpus 22.33.56 # Casainho: I thought you were going for an audio-only player? 22.33.56 Quit homielowe (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 22.34.02 # okok, but I think that small devices are already computers, or will be the future computers... 22.34.04 # if they were good, we would've used them in rockbox... 22.34.34 # i have an e-book reader that runs linux, but all applications for it are specialized 22.34.50 # well, I think that in very low resources hardwares that RB actualy work, Linux is not possible at all!! 22.35.07 # * linuxstb points Casainho to ipodlinux 22.35.09 # Even where Linux would Run, Rockbox can generally do things Faster because it requires less. 22.35.10 # Casainho: most platforms that run Rockbox can run Linux 22.35.17 # The Gigabeat F ran Linux too didn't it? 22.35.24 # Indeed. 22.35.27 # Casainho: linux runs on routers, which are much much more constrained than most of the players rockbox runs on 22.35.41 # really? I didn't know :-) 22.36.04 # oh well.... 22.36.10 # Bagder: Do you know much about ecos, especially their old license? 22.36.27 # I have much to lear :-) 22.36.29 # eg. some models have just 2MB flash and 8MB RAM - i think the Archos players are the only one that are more constrained than this (but even there you have more storage) 22.36.31 # learn 22.36.34 # linuxstb: not really, I've poked around with it a long time ago but I can't recall any details about their (old) license... 22.36.52 # It seems the Rio Karma ran it... 22.36.58 # yeah, I noticed 22.36.59 # And they're still distributing the firmware. 22.37.10 # okok, about inicial question: we, people that are choosing MCU for hardware RB player should use ARM9. :-) 22.37.36 # ARM9 is a pretty good choice, yeah. 22.37.42 # Casainho: let me put it this way: no manufacturer today picks anything less than ARM9 22.37.58 # okok :-) 22.38.05 # If you're picking less than it, you may as well hunt down older players that RB already runs on, on ebay. :) 22.38.08 # ... but then again, they play videos... 22.38.20 # * ender` goes to check what his ebook reader is based on 22.38.24 # I do not want videos!!! 22.38.27 # ender`: Kindle? 22.38.32 # iRex 22.38.41 # IIUC, the license requires recipients of executables to be given any modifications made to the source - http://ecos.sourceware.org/old-license.html 22.39.42 # linuxstb: I agree it looks like that 22.40.03 # And it seems that Rio didn't do this... 22.40.14 # (and the firmware's still on rioaudio.com) 22.40.17 # linuxstb: My reading says the same thing. If 22.40.31 # AVR32 says that it 72 MIPS at 60MHZ 22.40.57 # is there a way to compare MCUs but that MIPS? like compare an ARM7 and an ARM9? 22.40.59 Quit ptw419 (Remote closed the connection) 22.41.12 # are that MIPs a good way to compare MCUs? 22.41.35 # MIPS is next to useless for that 22.41.57 # linuxstb: 3.2 seems pretty clear 22.42.19 # hm, XScale-PXA255 rev.6 22.42.53 # ARM family that is 22.43.03 Quit DerDome (Nick collision from services.) 22.43.06 Join DerDom1 [0] (n=DerDome@dslb-082-083-193-241.pools.arcor-ip.net) 22.43.16 Nick DerDom1 is now known as DerDome (n=DerDome@dslb-082-083-193-241.pools.arcor-ip.net) 22.43.22 # Bagder: okok :-) - thanks for the information - I will copy and say It to others :-) 22.43.42 # * Bagder worked with Linux on PXA255 many eons ago... 22.43.43 # btw, if you're looking for an e-book reader (and don't mind paying somewhat more), i can only recommend the illiad (unless you care about battery time - it's quite a bit less than with other readers) 22.45.25 Join stewball [0] (n=WTFOMGBB@91.104.223.226) 22.56.30 # Hey linuxstb, I was wondering if there's anymore info on viewports other than in the tracker? 22.56.53 Quit shotofadds ("CGI:IRC") 22.57.16 # JohnEK: There are a couple of wiki pages, but they may be more confusing than helpful (they're not 100% representative of my patch) - http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/ViewPorts (and the ViewPortsDesign page linked from there) 22.58.34 # thanks! I'll give that a read. Do viewports support left to right text scrolling? 22.58.43 # ie. the song name is too long to fit, so it scrolls 22.59.15 # (apologies if this is a really bad question...I'm just getting into rockbox) 23.02.59 # Yes, they do. 23.03.38 # Basically, anything that you can do full-screen in Rockbox now, you can do within the confines of a viewport (in the LCD drivers, not all the apps/ code is adapted to use them yet). 23.04.22 Join bertrik [0] (n=Bertrik_@240-022-045-062.dynamic.caiway.nl) 23.04.59 # I take that to mean that scrolling is already supported in the most recent standard build...hence being a stupid question 23.05.05 # I didn't know that though...so thanks 23.05.23 # Yes, lines can currently scroll. 23.05.33 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 23.05.50 # Have you used Rockbox? ;) 23.05.54 Join uwe_ [0] (n=uwe@dslb-088-064-091-070.pools.arcor-ip.net) 23.06.08 # yeah I just put it on my 30gb video 23.06.24 # I'm having a tough time finding a good theme though...so I'm considering making my own 23.06.34 # and that's how I came across viewports 23.06.46 Join hcs [0] (n=agashlin@rockbox/contributor/hcs) 23.07.18 # Lots of people like Pen & Paper... 23.09.13 # multi-font isn't in svn yet, is it? 23.10.11 # No, it needs implementing in a better way first. 23.11.10 # Out of curiousity, how many devs do you figure are somewhat regularly working on rockbox? 23.11.40 # Over the entire history of the project, 89 contributors have submitted code. 52 have done so in the last year. 23.11.49 Quit Fraser ("Leaving") 23.11.52 Quit Alonea (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 23.11.55 # thanks rasher 23.11.57 # rasher: You sound like a stats-bot ;) 23.12.11 # * Bagder suspects that's an ohloh quote... 23.12.15 # JohnEK: http://www.ohloh.net/projects/3978/analyses/latest/contributors 23.12.18 # How many in the last 3 months? 23.12.32 # Doesn't say :-\ 23.13.06 Join Alonea [0] (n=chatzill@69.92.201.36) 23.13.37 # It never seems that many... 23.13.41 Quit jhulst (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 23.13.52 # Yeah, I'd guess about 30 23.14.07 # should be rather easy to script out with svn log 23.14.30 # Can I hide main menu items depending on a setting? 23.14.38 # kugel: No. 23.14.52 # uhh 23.15.52 # I tried to if-else the MAKE_MENU in root_menu.c, but I get an error 23.16.07 # Welcome to JD's world-of-macros 23.16.10 # Very sad 23.17.07 Quit uwe__ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 23.17.30 Quit Alonea (Client Quit) 23.18.06 # But I still wonder why I get this error 23.18.13 # how often does code checked from SVN bomb out of compile with errors? 23.18.23 # Very rarely... 23.18.26 # tried last night and didn't get anywhere, i cleaned up and just grabbed a snapshot 23.18.46 # Check the build table for the current status - http://build.rockbox.org/dev.cgi (red means errors) 23.18.55 # i don't believe I did something wrong, slackware 64-bit, ran the automagical script that builds binutils and gcc for you, and exported my path before running 23.19.32 # Sometimes files are missing from the snapshots - what was the error (and what target)? 23.19.47 # i can't remember, and its all been cleaned out... was just wondering in general 23.20.06 # some kind of error about arguments (i think a code error rather than deps etc) 23.20.20 # but don't take that as 100% true, as it was last night :P 23.20.33 # building for sansa e200 23.20.51 Join RoC_MasterMind [0] (n=Free@c-71-203-172-58.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) 23.21.44 # i can try it again... 23.22.02 # still have the same snapshot 23.23.22 Quit miepchen^schlaf (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 23.23.50 Join miepchen^schlaf [0] (n=hihi@p54BF6447.dip.t-dialin.net) 23.24.03 Quit EspeonEefi ("さよなら") 23.24.14 # linuxstb: Can you explan that error for me? "root_menu.c:423: error: expected identifier or '(' before 'if' 23.24.18 # " 23.24.58 # ok just to make sure... I moved to my temp build directory (is parallel with tools/), ran ../tools/configure, and am now running just 'make' 23.26.29 # OK, compile output is here: (not much, error is fairly early) 23.26.30 # http://pastebin.com/m5da7e5cd 23.26.44 # kugel: Can you pastebin the relevant part of the code? 23.27.08 # draeath: Select e200 instead. 23.27.22 Join saratoga [0] (n=9803c6dd@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-2e7dfe34c9e14468) 23.27.33 # anyone had a chance to look at the Cowan D2 patch ? 23.27.39 # i have an e200r, will it work? 23.27.39 # i'm wondering if that can go into SVN soon 23.27.51 # draeath: yes, the e200r target is only relevant for building the bootloader. 23.27.55 # aaah 23.27.56 # i see 23.28.58 # www.pastebin.ca/843150 23.29.00 # and i SHOULD never need to build the bootloader again, really 23.29.03 # right? 23.29.15 # right. 23.29.35 # line 15 in the pastebin is line 423 in my root_menu.c 23.30.21 # Should I have known to pick e200? 23.30.43 # (building fine now, btw - thanks) 23.31.25 # draeath: not really, no. 23.31.27 # kugel: You can't put an if() statement outside of a function. 23.31.40 # ah 23.31.49 # Thanks, I get worried when I realize i may have missed some important bit of docs ;) 23.31.50 # right 23.32.09 # draeath: I would rather consider it a bug... 23.32.13 # kugel; IIUC, menu items can have a callback function attached which tell the menu code whether they should be displayed or not. See the Radio item for example (on some targets, radio is detected at run-time). 23.32.52 # Bagder: Is adding "echo 'use e200 instead'; exit" to configure at an appropriate place reasonable? 23.33.23 # yes, or just silently switch to that internally 23.33.30 # Or just not offer anything apart from a bootloader or installer build if the e200r target is chosen. 23.33.32 Quit bertrik (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 23.33.57 # i think that is a better idea linuxstb 23.34.01 # Hmm, silently switching would hide what's going on though. 23.34.24 # would it really? it's still building rockbox for e200r 23.34.34 # it just happens to be the same 23.34.37 # It's building something identical to the e200 though... 23.34.38 # it builds a bootloader for e200r though doesn't it? 23.34.47 Join kropt [0] (n=kropt@unaffiliated/kropt) 23.34.59 # * linuxstb doesn't really feel strongly either way 23.35.10 # well, I don't have any strongs feelings about it either 23.35.27 # Whoever implements it gets to choose then ;) 23.35.28 # I'm ready to commit "complain and exit" if that's okay? 23.35.37 # Ah, option 3... 23.35.37 # sure 23.35.52 # Well, it's as good as anything - go ahead. 23.36.28 # better than "menus/main_menu.c:249: error: 'LANG_DISK_NAME_MMC' undeclared (first use in this function)" 23.36.31 # :P 23.37.02 # You're not the first 23.37.56 # We could just remove the e200r target, and make the e200 bootloader build run scramble twice, creating the two different bootloaders... 23.38.11 # hmm, i like that idea 23.38.16 # s/we/someone/ ;) 23.38.19 # not a bad idea 23.38.25 # much more elegant. 23.38.28 # Or unify the bootloader.. 23.38.42 # It's a file format issue - two different mi4 versions.; 23.38.46 # can that be done? different keey and such right? 23.38.51 # The actual bootloaders are identical. 23.38.54 # ah 23.39.09 # yea, the e200r has some rhapsody DRM key BS in it 23.39.14 # bye bye RB people :-) 23.39.21 Part Casainho 23.39.28 # bye bye crazy hardware person ;) 23.39.33 Nick m0f0x_ is now known as m0f0x (n=m0f0x@189-47-47-246.dsl.telesp.net.br) 23.39.50 # *g* 23.41.05 # hmm, silly question here: there is an option to flip the whole display upside-down. How hard would it be to have a 90-degree rotate option? 23.41.28 # draeath, very. 23.41.38 Part zicho ("Leaving") 23.42.24 # well, thanks for entertaining my silly questions 23.42.34 # actually, it might be easier with viewports now, but it's still complex 23.43.16 # i believe the issue stems from how everything is drawn (there are better explanations in the logs) 23.43.42 # its nothing critical, I was mostly curious as I saw the one option but not the other 23.44.53 # there actually was a patch that did this for the gigabeat, but it was not rotate-at-runtime 23.46.41 # anyone know the maximum frequency an e200r can output? 44100Hz? 23.46.55 # (not sure where else to bother about finding that kind of thing) 23.47.31 # I don't know, but Rockbox resamples all music to 44.1KHz anyway. 23.49.43 Quit merbanan (Remote closed the connection) 23.49.51 Join FOAD_ [0] (n=dok@dinah.blub.net) 23.50.38 Quit stewball (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 23.51.56 # linuxstb: "recent bookmarks" does only show up in the main menu when I activate bookmarks 23.52.06 # so there must be a way for me 23.53.00 # where the heck can i find instructions on using the onscreen keyboard? (saving radio presets) 23.54.21 # draeath: why, the fine manual of course 23.54.31 # looking, and not finding 23.54.35 # use left/right and the scroll wheel to browse through the chars 23.54.46 # There's a section about the "virtual keyboard" somewhere iirc. 23.54.47 # and play button to save 23.54.56 # kugel: which is really an awful combination to use 23.54.57 # ah thats what i needed (play button) 23.55.27 # found it "virtual keyboard" was the term i was looking to search for 23.55.37 # rasher: Not my fault. Btw I have a patch on the tracker to change the keyboard keymap for e200 23.56.14 # I know it's not. Didn't know that was your patch though, but I really think the current keymapping is suboptimal at least. 23.56.27 # To avoid saying awful. 23.56.37 # you might have a look on fs#7873 then 23.57.23 # I'm using my patch ever since, and (of course ;) ) I like it way more than the svn keymaps 23.58.28 # kugel, you got my attention... can I see a URL?