--- Log for 15.01.108 Server: clarke.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 13 days and 18 hours ago 00.00.13 # Llorean: the link in the manual is the same as the one on the wiki. I was just wondering if there were daily svn builds but I guess they're stable enough that they don't get updated often. 00.01.33 # You should always use the links in the manual, even if a newer one is "available" unless a dev specifically tells you not to use the one in the manual because it hasn't been updated yet. 00.02.01 # The wiki can be edited by anyone, but the manual lists "the version we support", and in the case of the bootloaders, "the version that works right, as far as we know" 00.02.21 # Llorean: Understood and thanks for the clarification 00.04.14 Part Keripo 00.07.14 # amiconn: I've seen some strange things on H120 with greyscale and the buffered drawing that I didn't see earlier. It appears some pixels are duplicated to the left and others are skipped. You might see it when mpegplayer is playing and showing the OSD but not when mpegplayer is paused. I haven't tracked down the commit where it started. 00.08.43 # I've seen that effect too, but I thought it would be due to a font where not all digits are equally wide, in conjunction with an unsuitable drawmode for the text 00.09.40 # there seems to be a shift left of the whole display by 1 pixel actually...images and all 00.10.18 # Hmm, but the font I'm using doesn't have unequal digit widths... 00.10.46 # I'm using the system font. This effect wasn't there when I first coverted to use buffered mode. 00.11.34 # I had that with your very first version, but only on H180, not on mini 00.11.46 # (I'm using different fonts on those) 00.13.03 # Does 'pause' unboost? 00.13.13 # * amiconn has a suspicion 00.13.22 # video thread activity always boosts 00.13.33 # so pause, stop, etc. do unboost 00.14.00 # Hmmm.... so it's the old problem of the first transfer after switching to data mode is ignored 00.14.32 # 1 simple 'nop' after the gpio manipulation in lcd_grey_data() should fix that... but I'll do some tests first 00.14.58 # I had that effect in lcd_write data() as well when optimising too much 00.16.28 # * amiconn will check things on sim & mini first 00.16.57 # A screendump turns out perfectly normal 00.19.03 # Do I need all the pacman. files to play Pacbox? I found a Midway Pacman rom and it only contained pacman.6* 00.19.30 # seems selected_item is not enforced to be a multiple of selected_size! 00.19.50 # Why should it? 00.20.57 # asn: It's illegal to download pacman roms from the internet. 00.21.22 # amiconn - hm, because I think that would fix the bug? 00.21.34 # The files pacbox needed are listed. It needs them all, and they need to match exactly what is expected. 00.21.42 # Llorean: Thank you. 00.21.44 # It would make the list less flexible 00.22.12 # i.e. for the file properties, where every entry is spread onto two lines, why would it make sense to select items #1 and #2 as a pair (rather than #0 and #1, which are actually related) 00.23.02 # Ah, is the size of an entry a property of the individual row (rather than a property of the whole list)? 00.23.04 # Not for that list, but maybe for others 00.23.53 # it's impossible to select odd numbers on the first pass through the list, and impossible to select even numbers on the second pass through the list. For which lists will this behaviour make sense? 00.24.03 # I'm not 100% sure, but I can imagine situations where it may be useful 00.24.03 # stripwax: yeah, the item count is the number or rows to display... 00.24.46 # yep, and the size of the selection isn't being used correctly when the list wraps 00.24.47 Join Horschti [0] (n=Horscht@p4FD4F8D8.dip.t-dialin.net) 00.24.59 # ^when the *user* wraps from one end of the list back to the ohter 00.25.02 # other 00.25.21 # yeah, that sounds like a bug though 00.25.24 Quit Horscht (Nick collision from services.) 00.25.27 # Well, I think so too .. 00.25.37 # But fixing it will make other lists less flexible? 00.25.46 # I dont think so 00.26.10 # hm? amiconn just said .. 00.26.13 Join gromit`` [0] (n=gromit@ALagny-154-1-85-64.w81-48.abo.wanadoo.fr) 00.27.27 # * JdGordon|w cant think of any situations where it would be useful... 00.27.31 Join ol_schoola [0] (n=meatwad@c-67-167-20-91.hsd1.il.comcast.net) 00.27.48 Quit conando (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00.27.57 # but it can still be fixed so you could manually select an odd item while scrolling will select the correct one 00.28.13 # look at guilist_select_at_offset.. the bug should be there 00.28.16 Quit shotofadds_ ("CGI:IRC") 00.28.41 # it is, 00.29.34 # I think 00.29.46 # most likely.. 00.30.00 # iirc thats the only thing that can directly change the selection 00.30.19 # that or put_selection 00.30.31 Join cool_walking_ [0] (n=cb3b81c3@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-affa42a4713349f9) 00.30.37 # put_selectionon_Screen doesnt change the selection though... 00.30.40 # just the start tiem 00.30.42 # item 00.30.54 # * JdGordon|w going by memory here 00.31.03 # * stripwax goes and looks 00.33.43 # Nice 00.34.04 # Hold shutdown patch still works :3 00.37.16 Quit obo ("bye") 00.38.43 # GodEater: have you noticed that the skipping bug happens more on large dirs than small dirs? 00.41.19 # jhMikeS: Hrmmm, seems the main loop in lcd_grey_data() is now too fast at 124MHz :/ 00.41.44 # But I wonder why; lcd_write_data is faster - and yet it's not too fast... 00.42.14 # Maybe I need to better interleave the lcd writes with the memory accesses 00.42.41 Quit Febs (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00.43.52 # It almost looks like some pixel columns are duplicated while others are dropped (at 124MHz) 00.44.13 # that what I think I'm seeing too 00.45.45 # It appears to be perhaps every four pixels 00.46.06 Quit ender` (" My computer NEVER cras") 00.47.35 # * stripwax wishes for a faster laptop... builds take forever.. 00.48.23 # * stripwax gives up and goes to bed.. 00.49.27 Quit stripwax ("Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org") 00.50.09 Quit ompaul (Client Quit) 00.53.08 Quit scorche|w ("CGI:IRC") 00.53.14 Nick J3TC- is now known as |404| (n=jetc123@pool-72-68-62-120.nwrknj.east.verizon.net) 00.53.20 # Nitro tha CiMien 00.53.48 # * pixelma discovers that she can now read the status line in greyscale mpegplayer with a widescreen video and is impressed :) 00.59.24 Join webguest34 [0] (n=4b178a5c@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-1c9e421104170d83) 01.01.12 Quit webguest34 (Client Quit) 01.02.33 # Re-ordering instructions does help... I need more registers though 01.02.51 Quit JdGordon|w ("CGI:IRC") 01.02.52 # Perhaps I only need one (right now I use 2) 01.07.01 # amiconn, jhMikeS: is there a simple way I can underclock my gigabeat? 01.07.44 # * amiconn has no idea about the gigabeat hardware 01.09.18 # markun? 01.10.27 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 01.10.59 # * jhMikeS wanted to try overclocking his a bit 01.13.21 Quit jgarvey ("Leaving") 01.14.02 # jhMikeS: any idea how to? 01.14.10 # Nico_P: S or f? 01.14.17 # F 01.14.19 Quit xnyhps ("Zzzz") 01.14.29 # I'd like to try reproducing thr playback skipping issues 01.15.23 # Nico_P: it's quite involved to change the clocking since the peripherals must follow. the datasheet gives all the info. it's not like I memorized everything. :) 01.16.45 # ah :( 01.20.58 Quit trust (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 01.24.41 Join japc [0] (n=japc@bl7-248-122.dsl.telepac.pt) 01.25.48 Join Febs [0] (n=chatzill@207-172-204-33.c3-0.rdl-ubr4.trpr-rdl.pa.cable.rcn.com) 01.27.37 Quit Gnu47 ("Hi, I'm a quit message virus. Please replace your old line with this line and help me take over the world of IRC.") 01.28.19 Quit Nico_P (Remote closed the connection) 01.32.26 Quit lee-qid (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 01.33.28 Join Mouser_X [0] (n=mouser@layl001.digis.net) 01.34.39 Join Alonea [0] (n=chatzill@69.92.201.36) 01.36.42 Join Kingsley90210 [0] (n=Kingsley@cpe-024-163-110-246.nc.res.rr.com) 01.36.58 # Hello 01.37.39 # I just installed RockBox for my Sansa e200, and I was just wondering where to put my roms for rockboy =/ 01.39.21 # anywhere you want 01.39.43 # Does it come with the auto install, or what? 01.40.13 # all the plugins are included with the install. we cannot tell you how to find the ROMs, as they are copywrited material 01.40.22 Join Gnu47 [0] (i=Gnu47@private.ntwk.thita.net) 01.42.22 # Well, I know that. 01.42.39 # It's homebrew anyway 01.42.58 # So I just put it anywhere in the .rockbox directory> 01.43.10 # *? 01.43.33 # that isn't really the ideal place, since you can't browse there in "supported files" viewing mode. you CAN put it there, but anywhere else is fine too 01.44.26 # Alright, thanks for the help 01.46.00 # Oh, one more dumb question. Where is rockboy located from the root menu? 01.46.56 # You can't run Rockbox directly, it is only a viewer. 01.47.08 # *Rockboy 01.47.17 Part toffe82 01.47.30 # You "play" a gameboy rom to start it. 01.47.33 # I fell like such a loser... 01.47.46 # Thank you. 01.49.39 # cool_walking_: help me understand that, please ^.^ Shouldn't there be a viewer binary that associates with the .gb or whatever files? 01.50.20 # aah yes there is 01.50.31 # Do you want the actual physical file? 01.50.53 # Well, I'm just wondering how it works. But yes, where is the actual physical file? 01.50.56 # It's in /rocks/viewers/ 01.51.03 # Thanks 01.51.14 Part pixelma 01.52.24 # .rockbox/viewers.config tells rockbox which viewers to open which files with 01.52.39 # cool_walking_: and .rock files are rockbox binaries? 01.52.46 # took me while to realise why "/viewers.config tells..." wasn't appearing 01.53.00 # they're plugins 01.53.20 Quit Kingsley90210 ("ChatZilla 0.9.80 [Firefox 2.0.0.11/2007112718]") 01.53.23 # Now I understand. 01.53.38 # Thank you very much, cool_walking_ ! 01.53.54 # You're welcome 01.55.06 Quit asn ("Lost terminal") 02.01.24 Join Ebert [0] (n=EbErT@adsl-215-196-77.aep.bellsouth.net) 02.01.49 Quit Alonea ("ChatZilla 0.9.79 [Firefox 2.0.0.11/2007112718]") 02.02.22 # jhMikeS: Try my latest commit :) 02.06.11 # ok 02.08.33 Quit Gnu47 ("Hi, I'm a quit message virus. Please replace your old line with this line and help me take over the world of IRC.") 02.11.01 # much better 02.13.46 Join ctaylorr [0] (n=ctaylorr@CPE001839ae25b4-CM0011aea4a276.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) 02.16.12 Quit Arathis ("Bye, bye") 02.23.20 # * amiconn is still puzzled that the sdram is so incredibly slow on cf, unlike on pp 02.27.52 Join Gnu47 [0] (n=Gnu47@private.ntwk.thita.net) 02.39.53 # I wrote a crappy connect 4 plugin. Right now it has crappy graphics that I drew in kolourpaint, so I wanted to steal (legally) these (http://games.kde.org/games/kfourinline/screenshots/originals/kwin401.jpg). Would it be too much of a waste of space to include that backgroud image of the entire gradient-ey board (there'd have to be one for each screen size)? Or is there a nicer way to get that awesome grad 02.41.39 # You could always just use a little simple math. 02.41.55 # You wouldn't get an identical gradient, but you could come up with something 02.42.06 # That being said, plugins aren't too concerned about space as long as it fits in the plugin buffer. 02.42.23 # How big is that? 02.42.44 # 512k on every target with a color screen. 02.42.50 # But that includes the size of the plugin itself 02.45.28 # How does the only-loaded-when-plugin-is-run thing work with /apps/plugins/bitmaps/ ? 02.46.29 # Bitmaps are actually compiled into the .rock file. 02.46.33 # So it still works the same. 02.46.54 # ahh okay 02.47.26 # How does it do that? 02.48.00 # <|404|> mmm...10 patches and it compiled smoothly 02.48.02 # The build system has some magic in it that I don't really understand. 02.48.11 Join crzyboyster [0] (n=4b596ed7@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-7642f41bd7e71482) 02.48.12 # <|404|> Too bad it doesn't have bmp resize 02.48.17 # Well it's comforting to know that you don't understand it :) 02.48.42 # Well, I've never looked into it. I just know it's there, and as long as you declare them properly, the magic takes care of all the work. 02.48.49 # Look at, I dunno, probably Jewels, for a good example 02.49.09 # What has been going on with the WPSLIST settings? Has someone actually investigated them so that the default theme can actually be commited? 02.49.27 # amiconn: I'm charging it, so I was only able to get at iPod_Control/Device, says boardHwRev: 0x00000000 (0.0 0) 02.49.57 Quit Rincewind ("bye") 02.51.17 # crzyboyster: It's not the default theme yet. It's still Cabbie 2.0 until it's committed and everything is changed. 02.52.02 # amiconn: and rockbox says LCD type: 0, so what can I do? 02.52.52 # I meant to say that. So has anyone actually investigated the WPSLIST settings? 02.53.26 Quit billenium ("Leaving") 02.55.49 Quit kugel (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 02.56.30 Join LambdaCalculus37 [0] (n=1800d0de@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-feea44c50514ed67) 02.56.51 # Evening, boys! 02.57.32 # Lambda: Hey! 02.57.51 # rasher: What has been going on with the rockbox-themes.org site? 02.58.26 # Who's around that has seen some TMS320-based players? 02.58.30 # * scorche wonders why he is asking rasher 03.00.13 Quit crzyboyster ("CGI:IRC") 03.07.42 Join BlackChaos [0] (i=BlackCha@ool-182cdaac.dyn.optonline.net) 03.08.18 Quit advcomp2019 ("Leaving") 03.08.35 Join advcomp2019 [0] (n=advcomp2@unaffiliated/advcomp2019) 03.10.30 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 03.13.12 Join hannesd_ [0] (n=light@gate-hannes-tdsl.imos.net) 03.19.55 Quit FOAD (Remote closed the connection) 03.22.03 # I think there's something a little unusual about the Dell DJ chipset. 03.24.48 # whats with the D2 commit? who is "rob" and why doesn't he have a full name 03.29.01 Quit hannesd (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 03.29.02 Nick hannesd_ is now known as hannesd (n=light@gate-hannes-tdsl.imos.net) 03.31.42 Quit waldo (Remote closed the connection) 03.33.41 Nick |404| is now known as JETC- (n=jetc123@pool-72-68-62-120.nwrknj.east.verizon.net) 03.38.20 Join toffe82 [0] (n=chatzill@ppp-71-142-15-237.dsl.frs2ca.pacbell.net) 03.38.31 Join dsh-1 [0] (n=daishi@ool-18be2452.dyn.optonline.net) 03.40.15 Quit |AhIoRoS| (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 03.43.05 Quit dsh-1 (clarke.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 03.43.05 NSplit clarke.freenode.net irc.freenode.net 03.43.14 Join dsh-2 [0] (n=daishi@ool-18be2452.dyn.optonline.net) 03.45.04 Quit LambdaCalculus37 ("CGI:IRC") 03.46.50 Quit ol_schoola () 03.50.28 Quit saratoga ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 03.53.48 Nick dsh-2 is now known as Daishi (n=daishi@ool-18be2452.dyn.optonline.net) 03.58.54 Join fasmaie [0] (n=yohann@c-24-60-113-125.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) 04.00.35 Quit Daishi (clarke.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 04.01.26 Join jcollie [0] (n=jcollie@dsl-ppp239.isunet.net) 04.10.38 Quit Thundercloud (Remote closed the connection) 04.15.44 NHeal clarke.freenode.net irc.freenode.net 04.15.44 NJoin Daishi [0] (n=daishi@ool-18be2452.dyn.optonline.net) 04.16.54 Quit Daishi (clarke.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 04.18.01 Join ze [0] (i=ze@cpe-76-175-22-254.socal.res.rr.com) 04.19.45 # How do I "run" rockboxdev.sh? 04.20.07 # I'm still attempting to get a build environment going for building Rockbox. 04.20.12 # just type the path to it 04.20.20 # Mouser_X: sh rockboxdev.sh or ./rockboxdev.sh 04.20.20 # I did. 04.20.30 # if it's in the current directory, you have to prefix it with "./", like ./rockboxdev.sh 04.20.38 # Ah, that'd be it. 04.20.58 Quit Horschti (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 04.22.07 # Should I run it from within "rockbox/tools" or should I move it out to "../rockbox/tools" ? 04.22.22 # Also, how do I give it the necessary permissions? 04.22.52 # chmod +x /path/to/rockboxdev.sh 04.23.25 # I don't think it matters where you run it from, but ran it from the trunk 04.23.53 # or did i? 04.23.56 # I can't remember... 04.24.05 # Just do whatever the wiki says 04.24.58 # Mouser_X, it doesn't matter where you run it from. 04.26.05 # krazykit: Thanks. I'm asking here, because I've never seen a wiki page for setting it up in Linux (if there is one, I'd be happy to read from it). 04.26.43 # Mouser_X, it's essentially the same as the install from cygwin 04.27.09 # With cygwin, you have to do a bunch of install stuff, and select packages, and etc. 04.27.30 # I tried to follow that, but I couldn't find the packages etc. 04.27.43 # well, it depends on what distro you're using 04.27.53 Quit JdGordon ("Konversation terminated!") 04.28.00 # xubuntu 04.28.24 # have you installed build-essential ? 04.29.24 # Yes. 04.29.38 # safteydan told me to do that last night. 04.30.08 # so you should be able to simply run the script and add it to your $PATH and be done with it 04.30.33 Join |AhIoRoS| [0] (n=ahioros@201.226.58.34) 04.30.41 # I think all you have to do on Linux is just check out SVN, run rockboxdev.sh, and then add the cross-compilers to your path. 04.31.50 # I've done "chmod +x rockbox.sh" and it's still not working (I copied it to my "home" or "root" or whatever that top directory is). Also, I don't know how to add stuff to my $PATH. 04.32.25 # what happens when you try to run the script? 04.33.39 # "WARNING: this script is set to install in /usr/local but has no" 04.33.59 # try running it with sudo 04.34.05 # okay, do "sudo ./rockboxdev.sh" 04.34.09 # Ah. 04.34.15 # I'm just going to stop talking 04.35.21 Join countrymonkey [0] (n=4b05639a@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-026c5656f4e3e12f) 04.35.42 # It's working now. I did "a" for arm. I've got a Gigabeat and a Sansa, so that should be all I need, right? 04.36.22 # I heard that rockbox merchandise exists. Is this true? 04.36.34 # ;o 04.36.38 # That'd rock. 04.36.40 # I don't remember which targets have which processor, but if rockboxdev.sh told you that, then it's true 04.37.03 # Mouser_X, yes, that's all you need 04.38.03 # Mouser_X, if you want to build simulators, you'll need libsdl1.2-dev 04.38.50 # Gigabeat wasn't in the list, that's why I was asking. I knew it was ARM, but I wanted to be sure. Where would I get libsdl1.2-dev? 04.38.58 Join ol_schoola [0] (n=meatwad@c-67-167-20-91.hsd1.il.comcast.net) 04.40.50 # apt-get install libsdl1.2-dev 04.40.59 # err.. sudo 04.41.42 Join JdGordon [0] (n=jonno@usw3662-s-207-244-148-63.dsl.w-link.net) 04.42.47 # Is it true that rb merchandise exists? If so, where do I get it? 04.43.05 # countrymonkey, you don't need to repeat yourself 04.43.31 # Have you attempted a Google search for "Rockbox Merchandise" ? If not, it can't hurt. 04.43.32 # sorry! 04.43.52 # countrymonkey, consider searching the forums (or reading the Announcements forum) 04.44.03 # I saw some photos of devs wearing t-shirts 04.44.15 # maybe they had them made up especially for the meetup, though. 04.44.22 # Those are very often event specific. 04.45.17 # I knew I wasn't dreaming! 04.45.36 Quit fasmaie (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 04.47.10 # Although it is stated in the topic it is just a trial period sort of thing. Is it still going on? 04.47.28 # follow the link. if you can still buy stuff, it's still going on. 04.52.25 Quit miepchen^schlaf (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 04.52.47 Join miepchen^schlaf [0] (n=hihi@p54BF6AE9.dip.t-dialin.net) 04.54.28 Join advcomp2019_ [0] (n=advcomp2@unaffiliated/advcomp2019) 04.55.08 # Now we have them, I don't see the benifites of target-specific voices unless they are all on the dev side of things. 05.00.46 Quit advcomp2019 (Nick collision from services.) 05.00.55 Nick advcomp2019_ is now known as advcomp2019 (n=advcomp2@unaffiliated/advcomp2019) 05.04.59 Nick fxb is now known as fxb__ (n=felixbru@h1252615.stratoserver.net) 05.05.29 Quit perplexity (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 05.10.32 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 05.13.07 Join BHSPitMonkey [0] (n=stephen@unaffiliated/bhspitmonkey) 05.16.11 Join Horscht [0] (n=Horscht@p4FD4FFBC.dip.t-dialin.net) 05.16.56 # countrymonkey: The benefit is that they're on average much smaller than a universal voice file. How can you not see that as a benefit? 05.18.24 Quit countrymonkey ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)") 05.24.16 Quit Horscht (Client Quit) 05.26.28 Quit Ebert () 05.28.00 Quit |AhIoRoS| ("Abandonando, see you http://ahioros.vidao2.com") 05.40.25 Quit BlackChaos ("Leaving") 05.47.10 Join advcomp2019_ [0] (n=advcomp2@unaffiliated/advcomp2019) 05.48.15 Quit advcomp2019 (Nick collision from services.) 05.48.17 Nick advcomp2019_ is now known as advcomp2019 (n=advcomp2@unaffiliated/advcomp2019) 05.55.51 Join ddalton [0] (n=ddalton@203-217-69-172.dyn.iinet.net.au) 05.55.55 # Bagder: around? 05.56.54 Quit cool_walking_ ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 05.59.35 Join advcomp2019_ [0] (n=advcomp2@unaffiliated/advcomp2019) 05.59.53 Quit advcomp2019 (Nick collision from services.) 05.59.59 Nick advcomp2019_ is now known as advcomp2019 (n=advcomp2@unaffiliated/advcomp2019) 06.06.18 Join roxfan2 [0] (n=dunno@89.49-240-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be) 06.11.53 Quit JdGordon (Remote closed the connection) 06.14.10 Join JdGordon [0] (n=Miranda@usw3662-s-207-244-148-63.dsl.w-link.net) 06.16.18 Nick JETC- is now known as |404| (n=jetc123@pool-72-68-62-120.nwrknj.east.verizon.net) 06.16.38 # JdGordon: around? 06.16.56 # no 06.17.06 # lol 06.17.33 Quit roxfan (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 06.17.42 # um well I just have a quick question. If I say I will do a port and get the docs for the cpu off someone do I then need to do the port? 06.18.00 # some things have happened in my life and I have very little time to code on rb... 06.18.10 # If you don't, Rockbox will hire some goons and track you down and break your knees. 06.19.00 # no I mean like will the devs start getting annoyed at me since I have had other things come up stopping me from been able to do the port? 06.19.57 Quit n17ikh|Lappy () 06.20.10 # ddalton: we could never get annoyed at you... we are too nice 06.23.39 # ok well I just didn't want to annoy anyone. especially bagder since he gave me the docs and aliask because he was helping me. and I said I would do it. but now I think about it is almost imposible with out sight and I assume a port takes a lot of time? 06.24.01 # and sadly I don't have that time. But I would still help out with if I could... 06.34.14 # <|404|> Hrmm...anyone familiar with progressbar slider patch? 06.35.42 # ddalton: I was joking by the way... when I come back i will arrange a hitman to get you!!! 06.39.52 Join FOAD [0] (n=dok@dinah.blub.net) 06.44.58 # jdgordon: lol 06.45.52 # no joke... im serious! 06.46.19 # yep sure. how ya going to find me? if you found out my address from don't say it 06.47.01 Quit lazka (Remote closed the connection) 06.47.13 Join advcomp2019_ [0] (n=advcomp2@unaffiliated/advcomp2019) 06.47.27 Quit advcomp2019 (Nick collision from services.) 06.47.35 Nick advcomp2019_ is now known as advcomp2019 (n=advcomp2@unaffiliated/advcomp2019) 06.48.43 # JdGordon: you want me to do the port? 06.50.04 # JdGordon: talk to me! 07.00.04 # hey JdGordon: still here? 07.00.56 # anyone here good with the wps context menu? 07.10.34 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 07.13.11 Join [_bb] [0] (i=wirc@208.102.82.97) 07.13.53 Join cool_walking_ [0] (n=cb3b81c3@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-1b91b362639cc7a6) 07.17.01 Join moos [0] (i=moos@m148.net81-66-158.noos.fr) 07.21.25 Quit bb05 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 07.24.10 Join bb05 [0] (i=wirc@208.102.82.97) 07.27.37 # What path would I need to add for the arm-elf GCC stuff? 07.27.49 # I used the rockboxdev.sh shell script to install it. 07.28.01 Nick fxb__ is now known as fxb (n=felixbru@h1252615.stratoserver.net) 07.28.20 Nick fxb is now known as fxb__ (n=felixbru@h1252615.stratoserver.net) 07.28.26 # Mouser_X: doesnt it say after rockboxdev.sh ends? 07.29.00 # Yes it does, but when I used nano to open the file, it cleared the terminal. I wasn't expecting that... 07.29.19 # it was /usr/local/arm-something/bin/ 07.29.44 Quit bb05 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 07.29.59 Join bb05 [0] (i=wirc@208.102.82.97) 07.30.36 # "/usr/local/arm-elf/bin" ? 07.30.45 # yeah 07.30.55 # (I can see that all of those exist, at least.) 07.31.55 # all of those? 07.32.10 # did you post multiple paths and your internet is weird again? 07.32.12 # Those directories, in that order. 07.32.21 # I only see you posting "/usr/local/arm-elf/bin" 07.32.23 # Mouser_X: same as the one in step for of the cygwin stuff... 07.32.25 # one moment. 07.32.33 Join Nico_P [50] (n=nicolas@rockbox/developer/NicoP) 07.34.23 # here is my path if you would call it a path. just add the arm stuff to the end of your's forget the other stuff. 07.34.26 # 07.34.36 # wait that didn't work! 07.34.41 # PATH="/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/bin/X11:/usr/games:/usr/local/arm-elf\/bin:/usr/local/sh-elf/bin:/usr/local/m68k-elf/bin:/bin:/bin/speakup" 07.35.12 Quit Gnu47 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 07.35.14 # Yeah but Mouser_X only installed the arm compiler. 07.35.50 # yes thats why I said to just add the arm stuff. I would assume he wouldn't have /bin/speakup dir too. :-) 07.36.22 # so before the last quote you add a : 07.36.55 # then you add straight after the : 07.38.45 # ok I think its :/usr/local/arm-elf/bin 07.39.01 # did that work? 07.40.34 # I was busy. It looks right, I'll add it, but I need to know what to put to add it... Isn't it "export PATH=$PATH:/usr/local/arm-elf/bin/" ? 07.40.45 # no 07.40.55 # just PATH=$PATH:/usr/local/arm-elf/bin/ 07.41.15 Quit [_bb] (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 07.41.17 # Ah. And put that anywhere in the .bashrc file? 07.41.26 # well yes that could work... 07.41.34 # yep, anywhere not inside a conditional 07.41.34 # but edit /etc/profile 07.41.43 # what distrobution? 07.42.03 # xubuntu. I couldn't find a "/etc/profile" 07.42.20 # after the else in this if statement. 07.42.21 # if [ "`id -u`" -eq 0 ]; then 07.42.41 # apparently ( http://joshstaiger.org/archives/2005/07/bash_profile_vs.html ) it's .bash_profile you want, not .bashrc 07.43.08 # ok hang on 07.43.25 # cool_walking_: That file doesn't exist. 07.43.28 # $cat /etc/profile 07.43.32 # If you edit /etc/profile instead, it'll be system-wide, instead of just for your user. 07.43.33 # (I tried already) 07.43.56 # please tell me output of that command with out the "$" 07.44.28 Quit cool_walking_ ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 07.44.35 Join cool_walking_ [0] (n=cb3b81c3@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-46f1cb2a668561be) 07.44.41 # accidentally closed the tab... 07.44.46 # * ddalton Starts to wonder where ubuntu stores its paths. His glad his on debian 07.45.14 # ok wait 07.45.22 # Text. Apparently it does exist, but I didn't see it when I looked for it... 07.45.23 # if you edit /etc/profile instead of .bash_profile, it'll be system-wide instead of just for your user 07.45.47 # oh yeah... any file/folder starting with a dot (.) is hidden by default in Unix 07.46.09 # Yes, I know. "/etc/profile" has no "." in it. 07.46.30 # I accidentally closed the tab so wasn't sure what file we were talking about 07.46.36 Quit advcomp2019 (Connection timed out) 07.46.41 # I have some recovery bash scripts I wrote in /bin/speakup change /bin/speakup to the location of arm-elf. I told you arm-elf's location before. add the following line in .bashrc: 07.46.45 # export PATH=$PATH:/bin/speakup 07.47.02 # you don't need the "export" in there 07.47.21 # I don't think it'll do any harm, but you don't need it. 07.47.58 # it works for me so I would do what I said. 07.48.12 # and your not using x are you? 07.48.38 # "export" just means the variable will be available in any sub-processes you open 07.48.50 # me? 07.48.56 # I'm on Windows right now 07.49.28 # no mouser_x 07.49.34 # or however you spell it. sorry. 07.49.48 # Mouser_X 07.50.17 Part toffe82 07.50.37 Quit moos (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 07.50.40 # Mouser_X: after changing the file, you'll have to close and open the shell for it to take effect. 07.52.08 # a /home/user_name/.bashrc won't work will it? 07.52.17 # So, add it before the "fi" ? What indentation should I use? As in, does it matter how far it goes in? 07.52.55 # (It'd have to be a newline, I assume, thus putting that "fi" below it, and the else statement above it.) 07.52.59 # no indentation and I put mine at the top of the file. 07.53.19 # Wasn't it you that said to put it after that else statement? 07.53.44 # no that was in /etc/profile 07.54.08 # That's what I'm looking in. 07.54.30 # (I found it. I thought it was a directory, but I was mistaken) 07.54.34 Quit bb05 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 07.54.36 # forget what I said before. You just need to add a certain dir but now just add the line I said. 07.54.47 # at the top of /home/your_user_name/.bashrc 07.55.09 # If I can make it global, I don't see any reason not to. 07.55.23 # no don't put it in .bashrc :) 07.55.43 # it's .bash_profile or /etc/profile 07.56.03 # I'm in /etc/profile right now. Where would I add it in there? 07.56.03 # no its .bashrc I think 07.56.28 # .bash_profile is for what should run when you log in... 07.56.35 # ddalton: That file will only make it user-specific. At least, it looks that way to me. 07.56.47 # exactly. 07.56.59 # both .bash_profile and .bashrc are user-specific 07.57.05 # unless you find your /etc/profile file 07.57.17 # did you try catting it? 07.57.23 # too be sure? 07.57.30 # Which I did, and I said I did, and I said that's where I'm at right now. 07.57.48 Quit Nico_P (Remote closed the connection) 07.57.54 # (That's at least 3 instances where I said what file I was attempting to edit.) 07.58.17 # To repeat: I'm in etc/profile right now. 07.58.25 # ok so what file are you in? 07.58.32 # lol what? 07.58.33 # (Again, I thought it was a directory, and I was mistaken.) 07.58.49 # oh no its a text file. 07.58.50 # profile is a file, not a directory. 07.58.55 # It has no extension. 07.58.59 # correct, it's a file 07.59.11 # correct also. Unix text files often have no extension 07.59.31 # So, where in that file do I add ":/usr/local/arm-elf/bin" ? 07.59.43 # see above 100 lines 07.59.53 # or so 08.00.33 # So, to ask again, I put it above the "fi" and below the else statement, on a new line? What indentation do I use? 08.00.35 # add "PATH=$PATH:/usr/local/arm-elf/bin" (without the quotes) to /etc/profile if you want it to be system-wide, or ~/.bash_profile if you want it only for your user. 08.00.40 Join FOAD_ [0] (n=dok@dinah.blub.net) 08.01.05 # don't put it above "fi" 08.01.19 Quit jott (Remote closed the connection) 08.01.21 # just put it as the very last line 08.01.32 # wait. 08.01.37 # Oh, so below the last "fi" then? 08.01.57 # It doesn't matter what's already there, just add it to the end 08.02.04 # after the else in this if 08.02.05 # if [ "`id -u`" -eq 0 ]; then 08.02.16 # no 08.02.16 # add :arm_path 08.02.20 # don't listen to him 08.02.27 # what are you doing, ddalton? 08.02.31 # If it works for cool_walking_, I'll assume it will work for me. It makes it easier. 08.02.32 # before the " of the line between fi and the else. 08.02.43 # so the path= line 08.03.00 # well this worked for me: 08.03.32 # add :armpath before the last " on the line path= which is between else and fi. How much more simpley can I say this? 08.03.46 # aah okay. He's just trying to get you to edit an _existing_ line that looks like "PATH=/usr/bin:.....". But that may not work if it is inside an "if" block. 08.04.11 # It wouldn't be inside the if block, if I added after that part. 08.04.15 # arm_path is what I said above the full path to arm 08.04.47 # I'll just put it at the end, below the last "fi" and above the "umask 022" 08.04.51 Join hcs2 [0] (n=olpc@ool-43518c2b.dyn.optonline.net) 08.04.54 # yes that is what your meant to do... 08.05.13 # That's what I was asking... 08.05.19 # the line before "fi" in this block: 08.05.26 # if [ "`id -u`" -eq 0 ]; then PATH="/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/bin/X\11:/bin/speakup" 08.05.29 # else PATH="/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/bin/X11:/usr/games:/usr/local/arm-elf\/bin:/usr/local/sh-elf/bin:/usr/local/m68k-elf/bin:/bin:/bin/speakup" 08.05.30 # The way I understood your answer confused me. 08.05.33 # fi 08.05.40 # I don't think IRC is well-suited to simple things like this 08.05.58 # * Mouser_X has apparently spammed #rockbox. :( 08.06.15 # hey do you know about paths? 08.06.51 # Who? 08.06.56 # Mouser_X: do you know how this path var works? 08.07.19 # I don't think we should even attempt to explain that, ddalton, after that mess 08.08.20 # Mouser_X: How familiar are you with gnu/linux? and are you using a gui? 08.08.36 # I am just trying to work out where you are getting confused. 08.08.57 # See Examples of UNIX environment variables"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Environment_variable 08.09.08 # AAAAGH. half-baked comment 08.09.26 # See the "Examples of UNIX environment variables" section at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Environment_variable 08.09.46 # well ok I need to go but see the cygwin setup guide and look at how they do the paths there. 08.10.19 # exactly same process in linux except on the line between else and fi which starts with "path" 08.11.28 # do this: 08.11.38 # echo $PATH so you see what happens... 08.12.07 Quit ddalton ("leaving") 08.12.35 # Well, I got the profile file edited. Hopefully I never have to go through that again. 08.13.37 Quit hcs2 ("Leaving") 08.15.23 Join Rob222241 [0] (n=Miranda@p54B062E5.dip.t-dialin.net) 08.16.36 Quit FOAD (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 08.16.36 Nick FOAD_ is now known as FOAD (n=dok@dinah.blub.net) 08.21.18 Quit miepchen^schlaf (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 08.23.45 Quit cool_walking_ ("CGI:IRC") 08.27.16 Join cool_walking_ [0] (n=cb3b81c3@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-1436938d2ad80d82) 08.37.18 # And, Rockbox is now building. Sorry again for the excess of commentary on my PATH situation. 08.39.36 Join RexDart [0] (n=4219a2af@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-5809c16983fb1179) 08.39.50 # Hello ladies! 08.40.01 # Hello 08.40.09 # damn.. I'm a lady now aren't I 08.40.39 Join conando [0] (n=john@dslb-084-060-167-105.pools.arcor-ip.net) 08.40.57 # cool_walking_: self proclaimed, even 08.41.04 # :) 08.41.12 Join Axio [0] (n=Axio@alf94-1-81-57-140-233.fbx.proxad.net) 08.41.23 # What's better to make a rockbox theme of....beos or os9 08.41.24 Quit BigBambi (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 08.41.51 # BeOS? 08.42.13 # Plan9 08.42.17 # All yellowy 08.42.44 Join BigBambi [0] (n=alex@rockbox/staff/BigBambi) 08.42.59 Quit Rob2222 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 08.43.49 # I want to make a WPS based on the Back to the Future series... 08.43.59 # Specifically, the DeLorean. 08.44.11 # (The train would be cool as well.) 08.44.19 Quit tedrock (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 08.44.24 Join tedrock [0] (n=tedrock@d235-159-75.home1.cgocable.net) 08.45.29 Join advcomp2019 [0] (n=advcomp2@unaffiliated/advcomp2019) 08.46.09 Quit cool_walking_ ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 08.46.13 Join cool_walking_ [0] (n=cb3b81c3@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-f27173b2f5a0a47e) 08.53.24 # plan9's a butt 08.53.39 # It's got some pretty good concepts 08.53.42 Join LinusN [0] (n=linus@rockbox/developer/LinusN) 08.53.42 Quit BigBambi (Remote closed the connection) 08.53.57 # like /proc 08.54.08 Join pixelma [50] (i=pixelma@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 08.55.02 Join trust [0] (n=trust@resnet14.nat.lancs.ac.uk) 08.55.28 # what doesn't have /proc 08.55.49 # where do you think it came from? 08.55.49 # and why isn't opera's irc client scrolling down with text as it appears 08.56.58 # why ask us ? 08.58.06 # Isn't this #opera? 08.58.08 Join tedr0ck [0] (i=tedrock@d235-153-37.home1.cgocable.net) 08.58.10 Quit tedr0ck (Remote closed the connection) 09.01.26 Join BigBambi [0] (n=alex@rockbox/staff/BigBambi) 09.02.34 Quit cool_walking_ ("CGI:IRC") 09.03.35 Join ender` [0] (i=krneki@84-255-206-8.static.t-2.net) 09.03.46 Quit tedrock (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 09.04.42 Join tedrock [0] (n=tedrock@d235-159-75.home1.cgocable.net) 09.05.08 Join petur [50] (n=petur@rockbox/developer/petur) 09.10.10 Quit JdGordon (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 09.10.35 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 09.10.55 Quit RexDart ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 09.14.42 Join egckiller [0] (n=4b6a2859@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-93ac14750fa3b7c1) 09.14.48 Quit nanok (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 09.15.04 # hey 09.15.49 # I have a problem getting the software installed onto my ipod 80gb 09.15.53 Join Zagor [242] (n=bjst@46.35.227.87.static.tab.siw.siwnet.net) 09.16.07 # hey can you help me 09.16.20 # I am trying to install the bootloader 09.16.30 # and it's saying that no ipod was found 09.16.34 # egckiller: which model ipod do you have ? 09.16.52 # the Ipod classic 80gb 09.17.06 # 1.0.3 or something like that 09.17.06 # it states quite clearly on the rockbox home page that the classic is not supported 09.17.18 # damn it 09.17.53 # what do I do then is there no program for the classic that lets me customize my ipod? 09.17.59 # Nope. 09.18.10 # wtf man that sucks 09.18.13 # why not? 09.18.17 # http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=14871.0 09.18.19 # read that 09.18.19 # You can see if anyone will trade it for an older iPod, or trade it for a Gigabeat F60. 09.18.43 # * Mouser_X suggests the Gigabeat route. 09.18.44 # hmm I just bought it today 09.18.56 # * GodEater suggests taking it back then 09.19.03 # Or that. 09.19.06 # assuming running rockbox is THAT important to you 09.19.07 # I wonder if I can take it back and get me a touchscreen or something 09.19.30 # no it's really not lol 09.19.43 # but I wanted to be able to use my own theme's 09.20.23 # I knew I should have paid the extra 50 bucks for the touchscreen 09.20.31 # that's themeable is it ? 09.20.36 # at least that one has wireless internet access 09.20.50 # no I don't think so 09.21.04 # egckiller, if you can find an e200v1 or c200v1 series, you could use rockbox 09.21.14 # If I can't get a themable one I may as well be able to at least connect to the internet lol 09.21.25 # aahh 09.21.26 # ok 09.21.34 # maybe I can find one on ebay 09.21.45 # conversation is now veering wildly offtopic... 09.21.47 # I have to go back up that way tommorrow anyway 09.21.59 Join cool_walking_ [0] (n=anthony@203.161.101.209.static.amnet.net.au) 09.22.23 # lol ok I'm out I have an appointment tommorrow 09.22.28 # thanks for the help 09.24.40 Quit Axio (Remote closed the connection) 09.29.26 Join tr00st [0] (n=trust@resnet14.nat.lancs.ac.uk) 09.29.26 # that's some real bs you know it why the fuck do compeny's like apple and sony fix it so that people can't reverse engineer their products after all I believe that the person that's spending over 200$ on something should have complete control over it 09.29.55 # again, why ask us? 09.30.13 # that would be like telling me I can no longer download shit on my computer 09.30.17 # I think it's that Apple have to sign an NDA with the hardware company 09.30.31 # I would guess 09.30.40 Join CaptainSquid [0] (n=Miranda@proxy11.netz.sbs.de) 09.30.56 # oh lol we'll it's bs either way 09.31.16 # I'm taking it back tommorrow 09.31.56 # yeah, best policy is to just not buy from those companies that aren't consumer-friendly 09.32.03 # they can keep their overpriced product and their NDA 09.32.16 # The NDA was just speculation on my part 09.32.19 # yeah I hope they go bankrupt 09.32.28 # hcs: Not much right now, unless you want to experiment with the lcd bridge 2 settings your self (testing speed and whether gfx output works with or without glicthes) 09.32.28 # lol I know 09.35.19 Quit egckiller ("CGI:IRC") 09.36.32 Nick midkay_ is now known as midkay (n=midkay@70-56-65-37.tukw.qwest.net) 09.41.44 Join tr00steh [0] (n=trust@resnet15.nat.lancs.ac.uk) 09.41.47 Quit trust (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 09.42.42 # Did anybody else know that CNET provide as permanent "Download Rockbox" link to our current builds page ? 09.43.43 # No.. but I don't I've been there in like 5 years except when they had a Rockbox review 09.44.19 # I'm personally inclined to ask them to remove it 09.48.31 # why? 09.48.36 Part pixelma 09.50.54 # because they don't link to the manual... 09.51.11 # pffff 09.51.43 # The current build page links to the manual though... 09.52.36 # I'd rather have them review it again because I'm sure the installer got better. And they should change the wording of "most iPods, iRivers, and Archoses" 09.52.41 # * GodEater will hand over the thread from the user who downloaded via CNET to petur and linuxstb then 09.54.12 # GodEater: maybe have them include the link for donations? 09.55.42 Join pondlife [50] (n=Steve@rockbox/developer/pondlife) 09.56.21 Quit qweru ("moo") 09.57.16 Quit tr00st (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 10.01.03 Join schnarch [0] (n=chatzill@91.65.21.182) 10.01.58 # Moinsen! 10.03.56 Quit amiconn (Nick collision from services.) 10.04.02 Join amiconn [50] (n=jens@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 10.05.42 Quit schnarch ("ChatZilla 0.9.79 [Firefox 2.0.0.11/2007112718]") 10.16.32 Join homielowe [0] (n=chatzill@d207-81-67-190.bchsia.telus.net) 10.17.58 Join Mathiasdm [0] (n=Mathias@d54C597B6.access.telenet.be) 10.21.00 # * homielowe I'm attempting to compile a sim for the iPod Touch, Is there anyway I can make it not complain about not having a bmp for the sim? (compiled eventually to run under osx on ipod touch) 10.21.56 Join Mathiasdm2 [0] (n=Mathias@d54C597B6.access.telenet.be) 10.31.12 Join Axio [0] (n=Axio@alf94-1-81-57-140-233.fbx.proxad.net) 10.31.43 # nm I just created a empy bmp file 10.35.07 Quit cool_walking_ (Remote closed the connection) 10.40.11 # homielowe: That's a good a way as any... 10.40.30 # :) 10.42.29 Quit tedrock (Client Quit) 11.10.12 Quit pondlife (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 11.10.36 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 11.12.58 Join pondlife [50] (n=Steve@rockbox/developer/pondlife) 11.13.20 Quit Mathiasdm (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 11.14.16 Quit Mathiasdm2 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 11.24.45 Nick parafin|away is now known as parafin (i=parafin@paraf.in) 11.31.08 Join jott [0] (n=j@unaffiliated/jott) 11.32.59 # Anyone know if CE-ATA / ZIF are the same thing or not ? 11.35.43 # I think they are not the same 11.36.27 # http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/HardDriveReplacement#1_8_Drive_Comparison 11.36.49 # ZIF = 40 pins, CE-ATA = 18 ins serial 11.36.53 # +p 11.37.35 # curious. In the teardowns of 5.5G and 6G ipods that I've seen, the drive slot looks identical 11.37.50 # They are very different. ZIF is normal parallel ata. CE-ATA is serial (MMC protocol) 11.38.31 Nick fxb__ is now known as fxb (n=felixbru@h1252615.stratoserver.net) 11.39.22 # http://www.ifixit.com/Parts/stream/4/thumb/6-1.jpg 11.41.16 Quit jhulst (Remote closed the connection) 11.41.32 Join jhulst [0] (n=jhulst@unaffiliated/jhulst) 11.42.44 # ah - I take it back 11.42.57 # the drive interface in the 80GB classic is still ZIF 11.43.04 # no wonder I was confused 11.46.39 # Is there a way to comment out "viewers" (trying to test compile for a new sim build )? 11.47.42 Join Arathis [0] (n=doerk@p508A40C0.dip.t-dialin.net) 11.47.53 Join waldo [0] (n=waldo@ip-81-11-194-228.dsl.scarlet.be) 11.52.32 Quit Weiss ("leaving") 11.52.39 Join Weiss [0] (i=taw27@pip.srcf.societies.cam.ac.uk) 11.54.07 Join advcomp2019_ [0] (n=advcomp2@unaffiliated/advcomp2019) 11.56.01 Part homielowe 11.56.09 Quit advcomp2019 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 11.56.53 # pictures of what a CE-ATA connector look like are thin on the ground 12.12.31 Join Mathiasdm [0] (n=Mathias@d54C597B6.access.telenet.be) 12.13.06 Join Nico_P [50] (n=nicolas@rockbox/developer/NicoP) 12.13.19 Quit Mathiasdm (Client Quit) 12.15.52 Join lee-qid [0] (n=liqid@p549650E0.dip.t-dialin.net) 12.19.16 Join Mathiasdm [0] (n=Mathias@d54C597B6.access.telenet.be) 12.19.39 Join mr_pink [0] (n=pete@pjrh2.caths.cam.ac.uk) 12.23.41 # Hmm, so the disk in the 80GB Classic could be moved to a 30GB 5/5.5G ? 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13.43.48 Join jhMikeS [50] (n=jethead7@rockbox/developer/jhMikeS) 13.43.52 # yep 13.44.16 # have you noticed a link between the playback skipping and the number of files in the dir? 13.44.50 # someone in thE forums said they might be related 13.44.59 # not really no 13.45.09 # most of my directories contain a very similar number of files 13.45.16 # only on the order of 15-20 13.45.56 # any chance that you could test on a dir with a large number of files? 13.46.24 # anyone know how gigabeat s is progressing? i can't recall having seen any commits 13.46.26 # what will that tell you ? 13.47.03 # GodEater: it could tell me that it's the playback thread that isn't yielding enough 13.47.34 # preglow: ptw419 emailed freescale and got some example code 13.47.40 # Nico_P: I'm not sure I follow - I already *get* the issue with very few files 13.47.44 # but I don't think there was any progress lately 13.47.56 # surely increasing the number isn't going to make the issue better ? 13.48.32 # Nico_P: why do they need example code? 13.48.46 # glitchy docs? 13.49.05 # preglow: we can't get the interuppts working on it 13.49.34 # GodEater: maybe the number isn't a factor at all, it might be interesting to know whether it is 13.49.56 Quit spr0k3t (Remote closed the connection) 13.50.11 # Nico_P: ok - I'll have a look for something with more titles in it 13.50.16 # preglow: he mainly wanted to know whether he was missing something obvious, and the guy from freescale added code to his answer 13.50.18 Quit ch4os_ ("Lost terminal") 13.50.28 # GodEater: thanks :) 13.51.14 # also if the number is a factor and the skipping is more obvious with more files, we'll have found a reliable test case 13.51.21 # would a big playlist help ? 13.51.28 # or do the files HAVE to be in the same directory ? 13.51.41 # a big playlist would probably do the trick 13.51.46 Join spr0k3t [0] (n=spr0k3t@CPE-69-76-171-220.kc.res.rr.com) 13.52.03 # * GodEater loads root.m3u 13.52.04 Quit jott (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 13.52.11 # I guess the guy mentioned the dir because he simply played the first file in the dir 13.52.28 # christ 13.52.35 # that's frozen *everything* 13.52.44 Quit Casainho (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 13.52.50 Quit tr00steh (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 13.53.01 # disk is still spinning, backlight responds to key presses 13.53.05 # but other than that, bugger all 13.53.58 # hmm 13.54.04 # come to think of it, this root.m3u is out of date 13.55.20 # Still, Rockbox should safely handle nonexistent files in a playlist. It used to. 13.56.01 # indeed 13.56.04 # it should just skip them 13.56.25 # yes, I just think that ALL the files in it don't exist now 13.56.29 # I did a major reorganise 13.56.37 # so it's taking a long time to skip them all 13.56.39 # that's a special case it used to handle 13.56.53 # i.e when none of the files are present 13.56.56 # right, a large list with all non-existing files can take a while 13.57.18 Join jott [0] (n=j@unaffiliated/jott) 14.01.01 # It has 5440 files in the list 14.01.08 Join homielowe [0] (n=chatzill@d207-81-67-190.bchsia.telus.net) 14.07.46 # from -community "I thought ptw419 got interrupts working ? http://www.rockbox.org/irc/reader.pl?date=20080110#02:01:45 " 14.08.16 # * Nico_P is reading the log and hardly believing it :) 14.10.54 # I wonder why he didn't commit the code 14.15.24 Quit ctaylorr (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 14.19.32 Quit GodEater (Remote closed the connection) 14.19.47 Join GodEater [50] (n=bryan@rockbox/staff/GodEater) 14.20.17 # sorry chaps - my connection wondered off on it's own 14.20.37 # Nico_P: I've got a 76 entry playlist currently. This started playback perfectly, no issues at all. 14.20.44 # I'm about to try again with my root.m3u 14.20.48 # ok 14.21.11 # ...which has also started back without a hitch 14.21.25 Quit jcollie ("Ex-Chat") 14.21.28 # so perhaps it's the process of adding the files to the playlist which is fighting with playback ? 14.21.38 Quit Febs (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 14.21.43 # dynamic playlists are very different 14.21.57 # so you might want to try that 14.22.07 # play a directory and then queue a file 14.22.18 # I need a big directory then 14.22.22 # which I currently don't have 14.23.36 # * GodEater endeavours to create such a directory 14.23.41 # how many files do you want in it Nico_P ? 14.24.14 # GodEater: no idea... several hundred if possible 14.24.49 # but start small, maybe the problem will start showing with "few" files 14.24.59 # well it currently shows with 15-20 14.25.36 # yeah, I meant consistently 14.27.04 # Nico_P: well, did the code make us any smarter? 14.28.02 # preglow: apparently it did, as ptw reported he got interrupts to work, as homielowe pointed out 14.28.31 # I mailed him to try to know a bit more 14.28.42 # and to find out why he didn't commit it presumably 14.28.55 # that too 14.30.01 # 30 file directory started ok 14.35.08 Quit BigBambi (Remote closed the connection) 14.36.19 # Nico_P: I tried it with a 70 file directory 14.36.22 # which seemed to work ok 14.36.27 Join BigBambi [0] (n=alex@rockbox/staff/BigBambi) 14.36.40 # but since that was a test directory, I'd created it directly off the roor 14.36.42 # *root 14.36.58 # if I move it way way way down my folder hierarchy, I get the glitchy startup of playback 14.37.21 # that's strange 14.37.55 # * GodEater moves it back, and confirms it starts up fine 14.38.45 # so if it is located at /Testing - then it's fine - but if I move it to /Music/Various Artists/Some folder/Some sub folder/ - then playback is glitchy on startup 14.39.59 # * GodEater double checks again 14.40.05 # yep - compeltely repeatable 14.40.54 # if badly spelt :) 14.40.56 # it's not exactly the clue I was expecting, but at least it's something :) 14.41.36 # what players do you have to try it on? 14.42.05 Join Gnu47 [0] (i=Gnu47@private.ntwk.thita.net) 14.42.43 # only the gigabeat :/ 14.43.22 # it's got to be worth a try on that 14.43.26 # with a deep directory tree 14.44.03 Nick |404| is now known as JETC- (n=jetc123@pool-72-68-62-120.nwrknj.east.verizon.net) 14.44.51 # * Nico_P tries 14.45.42 Join pixelma [50] (i=pixelma@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 14.48.36 # I can't get it to skip 14.49.23 # Nico_P: Are you still familiar with the progressbar slider patch? 14.49.38 # JETC-: not really, why? 14.49.59 # any other ipod owners care to test that theory ? 14.50.59 # GodEater: someone said it started on r15444, and that change only affected ipods 14.51.22 # so maybe that's why I can't repro, but people also reported glitches on the H120 14.51.48 # Well, I'm trying to apply the patch and of course, it won't. The problem seems to be a problem with initializing the NORMAL variable?(not sure what to call it) 14.52.26 Join Febs [0] (n=chatzill@38.98.196.75) 14.52.33 # Anyway, in the progressbar patch, I see the NORMAL variable being used there as well and I just renamed it to something else and it seems to be compiling now. 14.52.48 # I just want to make sure if doing so wouldn't change the functionality of the patch 14.54.46 # http://pastebin.com/d2da14abf 14.54.48 # JETC-: I have no idea 14.55.08 # NORMAL is probably a #define 14.55.35 # Yeah but it seems to be conflicting with something now :3 14.55.42 # Oh well, we'll see 14.55.47 # GodEater: it might be worth checking that the problem really did start with r15444 14.55.49 # Just have to test it after it compiles 14.55.57 # * Nico_P has to go 14.57.34 # K, later 14.58.52 Join jcollie [0] (n=jcollie@161.210.6.204) 15.06.24 Quit jhulst ("Konversation terminated!") 15.09.42 Quit Gnu47 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 15.10.42 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 15.14.54 Part LinusN 15.15.23 Join LambdaCalculus37 [0] (n=44a0430f@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-48e091cecda7ebf7) 15.15.55 # Ah, I see a betting pool for new ports during the new year is on! :) 15.19.16 # Well, I think a few ports are pretty much given. 15.20.08 # Llorean: Yes, since we have the m:robe 100 and m:robe 500i, and the Cowon D2 looking good and about ready to go soon once the guys working on them polish them up. 15.21.21 # the d2 needs more than polish i think. 15.21.43 # I expect the D2, m:robe 100, and Gigabeat S to happen. 15.22.06 # The 500i may end up one of the "interesting, but not interesting enough to sustain focus" targets, I'm not sure. 15.22.32 # krazykit: But he's doing a great job on it, so I give kudos to him for his hard work. :) 15.22.44 # My "not as likely" prediction for the year is the v2 Sandisks. I think that there's just enough information around to make those likely if people will try to run with 'em 15.23.04 Join Gnu47 [0] (n=Gnu47@private.ntwk.thita.net) 15.23.42 # Llorean: My prediction is more for the Sansa View, since the hardware is close to (but not!) the e200 series, and Bagder has said that the dummy signing on the View works like it does on the e200. 15.23.49 # What about the Logik DAB thingy linuxstb is working on ? :) 15.24.09 # GodEater: He made good progress on it, but where does it stand now? 15.24.13 # LambdaCalculus37: this is true, but no-one's actually working on a port for it :) 15.24.22 # LambdaCalculus37: I've no clue - ask him :) 15.24.39 # wen r u going 2 make a hack 4 the ipod classic lol? 15.24.40 Join linuxstb_ [0] (n=linuxstb@rockbox/developer/linuxstb) 15.24.42 # * Febs runs and hides. 15.24.49 # of course, he's technically still working on the Tatung Elio too... 15.25.01 # talk of the devil :) 15.25.03 # Febs: You silly person, you. :) 15.25.09 # Febs, you need to brush up on your aol speak 15.25.16 # it's too easy to understand :) 15.25.19 # s/lol/lolz 15.25.38 # If I ever actually become fluent in AOL-speak, you have my permission to shoot me. 15.25.39 # A few random uses of z always helps 15.25.43 # s/lol/lolkthxbyebbqwtf!!!111one11!eleven 15.25.57 # omg i fux0red lolz HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 15.25.58 # * LambdaCalculus37 readies the BFG for the day Febs becomes fluent in AOL-speak 15.26.14 # * Llorean still wants to see the "as an app" ports of Rockbox. 15.26.16 # Febs, you mean you don't use it as your .lang in Rockbox ? :) 15.26.24 # Llorean: That would be nice 15.26.27 # GodEater: don't forget that he also started an Archos AV300 (right name?) port... ;) 15.26.33 # Llorean: you mean from someone who sends the code back to us :) 15.26.38 # Llorean: Rockbox as an app would seriously be cool. 15.26.38 # pixelma: he sent that to scorche though 15.27.05 # I'm still trying to start the Dell DJ and Rio Karma ports. 15.27.14 Quit linuxstb (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 15.27.16 # shame there's still no luck on that CD 15.27.17 # didn't know that... waiting for scorche then :) 15.27.27 # But my coding skills are about as good as Rincewind's magic abilities. :( 15.27.43 # you mean you only know one program, but it's one of the BIG ones :) 15.27.48 # * Llorean should seriously get off his butt and code something again one day 15.27.48 # No matter how bad your code you always survive? 15.27.58 # Something other than keymap changes and other hate inducing minor tweaks 15.27.59 # written by Stallman himself 15.28.03 Quit idnar (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 15.28.19 # Llorean: but you love all the vitriol that gets poured on you when you do those :) 15.28.31 # Yeah, how come I can go through the Emacs code like no one's business, but I can hardly even write a proper patch? :P 15.30.29 # you could port emacs to rockbox. rockmacs. 15.30.49 # krazykit: And easy way to terrify people. :) 15.32.06 # that would be rockvi ;) 15.33.08 Nick Arathis|essen is now known as Arathis (n=doerk@p508A40C0.dip.t-dialin.net) 15.34.11 # krazykit: I saw your PM and responded. 15.34.34 # i'll respond later, as i have class in a few minutes 15.35.13 # krazykit: No prob. 15.37.37 Quit CaptainSquid (Remote closed the connection) 15.39.19 # pixelma: well, he still has yet to actualtl ship it :) 15.39.36 Join gtkspert [0] (n=gtkspert@124-169-125-44.dyn.iinet.net.au) 15.41.14 # Having the AV300 port may help me out in continuing the AV100 port a bit, since they share some of the same hardware. 15.42.05 Join CaptainSquid [0] (n=Miranda@proxy11.netz.sbs.de) 15.42.35 Join Gnu47_ [0] (i=Gnu47@private.ntwk.thita.net) 15.43.04 # * scorche heads off to work 15.43.09 Quit Gnu47 (Nick collision from services.) 15.43.12 Nick Gnu47_ is now known as Gnu47 (i=Gnu47@private.ntwk.thita.net) 15.45.30 Quit DogBoy ("Leaving") 15.45.50 Join DogBoy [0] (n=john@66-101-59-100-static.dsl.oplink.net) 16.03.20 Quit Gnu47 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 16.04.19 Join asn [0] (n=asn@85.73.222.193) 16.05.13 Quit Zagor ("Client exiting") 16.06.30 # Llorean: Don't forget the M3 16.09.43 # Oops... nearly forgot. :) 16.10.07 # I forgot that the M3 may join its brothers one day. 16.11.35 # Is it normal for rockbox to freeze that much? I mean, I was listening to a song today and I was also browsing to find the next to listen. When I tried to open the directory of the second song it froze there, saying "Loading 16.11.45 # and it unfroze when the first song finished playing 16.13.27 # asn: Can you clarify for us by telling us what player you're using and what kind of audio file it is that's causing this? 16.14.39 Quit lee-qid (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 16.14.51 # LambdaCalculus37: yeah of course. Both files were .mp3s. I'm using an iPod video 5G of 60GB, but with the .zip file (firmware?) of the 30GB model, since when I tried the .zip file of the 60GB model it would freeze in every menu I tried to enter. I asked here, and they told me to "downgrade" to the 30GB .zip file 16.16.15 Join scorche|w [0] (n=42c007b2@rockbox/administrator/scorche) 16.16.15 # That is not normal, no 16.17.29 # I see 16.17.54 # BigBambi: Shouldn't he be using the 60/80GB build? Sounds like a buffering problem to me. 16.18.03 # Not if it didnt work 16.18.18 # That would suggest a 60gb hard drive in a 30 gb body 16.19.04 # And since the 30 gb has 32 mb or ram cf 64 mb in a 60 gb, if that were true using a 64 mb build on a 32 mb ipod whatever the size of disk would cause all sorts of crashes 16.19.14 # s/or/of 16.19.27 # BigBambi: Good call, dude. 16.19.30 # However, it could be the current buffering problem, yes 16.19.40 # I'm using the current build file 16.19.44 # asn: Did you ever change your hard drive on your iPod? Just curious. 16.19.48 # No. 16.19.58 # The guy that helped me asked that too. 16.20.08 # that helped me by telling me to switch .zip files, that is. 16.20.15 # It is rare, but has been known for a 60gb drive in a 30 gb body 16.20.15 # (that zip file is the firmware?) 16.20.16 # asn: So you most definitely have a 5G iPod video, with the original 60GB hard drive in it. 16.20.27 # We needed to make sure. 16.20.51 # asn: Are you experiencing similar things to this: FS#8260 16.21.00 # (that is a flyspray number) 16.21.02 # LambdaCalculus37: Well, I'm sure it's 60GB, I'm sure it's an Ipod, I'm sure it can play videos. I'm just not sure that it's 5G, but from that apple site I think that is _5G_ 16.21.35 # asn: http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/8260 16.21.37 # BigBambi: flyspray number? I don't know what's that ^.^ I can't remember FS#8260 or anything like that in my rockbox screen :( 16.21.40 # asn: No, that's definitely a 5G then. But we just want to make sure... we have a few hardware modders that stop by, too, y'know. 16.22.10 # asn: flyspray is the bug/patch tracker. See my link 16.22.42 # asn: If you want, you can post a comment to that link BigBambi gave you so the devs can check it out. 16.23.24 # asn: There are also a good few threads on the forum about related issues. Have a check through them and see if it sounds familiar 16.25.04 # About that bug report. First of all, I've only tried once listening to music with my Rockbox, today (these last 2 days I've been messing with rockbox. games etc.). The problem happened on the first song. What I don't understand is the (audio skips for about a quarter of second (sounds like a glitch)) deal. My current playing sond didn't stop, it's just that rockbox display froze to a "Loading" screen 'till the current playing song finished. 16.25.24 # hmmm 16.25.29 # maybe not that then 16.30.00 # LambdaCalculus37: it was me that diagnosed the "wrong amount of RAM" issue, and only because I've heard of "repairs" from Apple of 60/80GB ipods being sent back in a 30GB body (i.e. with the lower amount of RAM). 16.30.07 # and it's not reproducable btw. For example, it now works alright. 16.30.54 # GodEater: Strange that Apple would do that... sounds kind of like the Sansa v2 bodies with V1 hardware inside issue. 16.31.01 # Coffee time. 16.31.05 # * LambdaCalculus37 will return 16.38.11 # There, it froze again. Now when I tried to access the Files directory. But this time no "Loading" or anything. 16.38.29 # I wonder if it will unfreeze when the song ends 16.39.49 Join toffe82 [0] (n=chatzill@h-74-0-180-178.snvacaid.covad.net) 16.41.21 # What is the forum policy on people selling stuff? 16.41.40 # heh it indeed unfreeze after the song ended. 16.41.41 # meh...depends on how they go about it 16.41.58 # scorche|w: http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=14953.0 16.42.59 # expensive... 16.43.07 # It is quite 16.43.16 # But he says it's new. 16.43.34 # as long as he doesnt spam it around other threads/bump/draw attention, he should be fine (as we never made a FS forum) 16.43.50 # I think so too, just wasn't sure 16.44.22 # scorche|w: Think we should make one at some time in the future? Would be nice for people looking to unload old DAPs without eBay or Amazon or some crap like that. 16.45.04 Join psilonux [0] (n=psilonux@d54C48DF2.access.telenet.be) 16.45.28 # LambdaCalculus37: it was discussed in a private area, but discussion kind of stalled on it 16.47.01 Quit psilonux (Remote closed the connection) 16.47.45 Quit Mouser_X (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 16.49.45 # What is a root.m3u8 in my root directory? 16.51.12 # asn: root.m3u8 is a playlist for all of the music on your iPod. 16.51.34 # You can play it, then turn on Shuffle to listen to a big mix of all of your music. 16.51.58 # It usually would be that 16.52.03 # I see 16.52.08 # Thank you. 16.52.14 # but only if you had recursivly insert directories on when creating it 16.54.10 # asn: Take note of what BigBambi says. 16.54.20 # talking about the root.m3u8, shouldn't be better to have it in the list of the playlist ? and perhaps rename it to something like ALL ? 16.54.30 # at the basic level it is just a playlist called root 16.54.53 # If you created a playlist of everything on the player, the default name for it is root (as it was created in the root directory) 16.54.59 # toffe82: Yes, you can always rename it yourself. 16.55.00 # As it is a playlist , why it doens't appear in the list of the playlist ? 16.55.09 # I named mine "The Lot.m3u8". :) 16.55.20 # toffe82: Because that only happens if you use the playlist catalogue 16.55.39 # I certainly don't want all of my playlists I create to go in the playlist catalogue 16.56.27 # If the user wants to create a playlist of whatever they want (e.g. all music) and put it in the playlist catalogue they can 16.56.51 # The freedom to use your DAP as you see fit... right BigBambi? 16.56.57 # hell yes 17.00.13 # * Nico_P summons ptw419 17.02.08 Join japc [0] (n=japc@194.65.5.235) 17.02.08 # Rockbox forums are down 17.03.59 # BigBambi: what is the difference of using the playlist catalog or browsing a directory for searching a playlist ? 17.04.46 # playlist catalogue lets you manipulate playlists 17.05.00 # But I don't always want a playlist to end up there 17.05.07 # asn: Give them a little time. 17.05.25 # I might want it in a specific directory to make it easier when I copy music on and off the player for instance 17.06.16 # BigBambi: On all of my devices, I just create a "Playlists" folder and copy .m3u8 files into it. 17.06.42 # I also make it a habit of keeping a common folder structure across all my devices to facilitate easier transfer of playlists. 17.06.48 # where are the playlist when you use the catalog ? 17.07.13 # toffee82: In my "Playlists" folder on my iPod. 17.07.41 # If I have /artist/album on my dap, I might want a playlist of my favourite songs for a particular artist from multiple albums. If I put the playlist in /artist, I can copy /artist to anywhere and all the realtive paths etc will still be correct 17.07.45 # ok on your , but by default ? 17.07.54 # toffe82: The playlist catalogue uses /playlists 17.08.27 # and is hard coded to so do 17.10.44 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 17.15.57 # BigBambi: LambdaCalculus37: I found a relevant to my issue thread in the Rockbox forum: http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=10814.30 The only difference is the fact that my iPod unfreezes when the song finishes. Also a guy in the 3rd page mentioned another problem I have with Rockbox, that it sometimes it just doesn't start up and I will have to use the Menu+OK buttons to open it (Dip in the third page describes it better) 17.17.06 Join jgarvey [0] (n=jgarvey@cpe-024-163-032-204.nc.res.rr.com) 17.21.15 Quit CaptainSquid ("Miranda IM!") 17.24.07 Quit TMM ("Ex-Chat") 17.31.08 # asn: My iPods are showing no problems whatsoever. This is a strange issue. 17.32.06 # hihi 17.32.31 Join Frazz [0] (n=Fraser@thelawsons.plus.com) 17.33.50 Join JdGordon [0] (n=jonno@usw3662-s-207-244-148-63.dsl.w-link.net) 17.33.56 # Well, I disabled ReplayGain, since a guy was saying that this fixed his problem, and I will see how it goes 17.34.23 Join PaulPosition [0] (n=nonofyer@modemcable228.133-82-70.mc.videotron.ca) 17.35.05 # I've also found a guide to audio settings tips in Rockbox (how to use less battery through smart audio settings ,etc.) in the internets but I can't find it 17.35.11 # right now 17.36.26 # That's the kind of information that should be on the wiki, so that you're guaranteed to find it. 17.38.08 Join Casainho [0] (n=chatzill@bl10-16-192.dsl.telepac.pt) 17.39.08 Nick advcomp2019_ is now known as advcomp2019 (n=advcomp2@unaffiliated/advcomp2019) 17.41.56 Quit LambdaCalculus37 ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)") 17.42.03 Join LambdaCalculus37 [0] (n=44a0430f@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-20f8d603868f5960) 17.42.45 # * LambdaCalculus37 hates WinXP for kicking him off IRC >:( 17.47.39 Join MethoS_ [0] (n=clemens@pD955D9DD.dip.t-dialin.net) 17.53.02 # toffe82: someone's looking for you: http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=14915.0 17.54.38 # markun: thanks , I talked with him yesterday 17.59.36 Quit linuxstb_ (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 18.00.11 Join linuxstb_ [0] (n=linuxstb@i-83-67-212-170.freedom2surf.net) 18.01.39 Quit PaulPosition () 18.01.42 Join PaulPosition [0] (n=nonofyer@modemcable228.133-82-70.mc.videotron.ca) 18.04.04 Join tvelocity [0] (n=tony@athedsl-331245.home.otenet.gr) 18.04.33 # Is a song-progress-bar in the status-bar in development, or is it already implemented and I don't have it enabled. 18.08.16 # or neither? 18.09.23 # I haven't heard of this feature (working or being worked on) but you could search through the patch tracker 18.11.41 Join Fraser [0] (n=Fraser@thelawsons.plus.com) 18.13.32 Join Daishi [0] (n=daishi@ool-18be2452.dyn.optonline.net) 18.16.11 Join Arathis2 [0] (n=doerk@p508A5C1E.dip.t-dialin.net) 18.17.20 Quit Arathis (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 18.23.29 Join Subliminaut [0] (n=cd9cbcfe@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-0f1b95f589080496) 18.23.51 # Hello 18.24.09 # Any ideas why rockbox reboots my 5G ipod when I plug it in via USB? 18.24.20 # I just want to copy crapola to it, not reboot to disk mode 18.24.52 # because rockbox does not yet have USB transfer capability 18.25.27 # you can hold down the menu key when you plug it in, then it won't reboot (but you still can't copy stuff) 18.28.06 Quit BigBambi (Remote closed the connection) 18.29.46 Join BigBambi [0] (n=alex@rockbox/staff/BigBambi) 18.30.24 Quit Frazz (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 18.32.16 # HMM 18.32.20 # whoops 18.32.20 # thanks 18.33.44 Quit Subliminaut ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 18.33.50 Quit waldo (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 18.43.04 Quit Arathis2 ("Bye, bye") 18.49.30 Join Domonoky [0] (n=Domonoky@92.226.140.29) 18.52.13 Quit Casainho ("ChatZilla 0.9.80 [Firefox 2.0.0.11/2007112718]") 19.00.36 Join Frazz [0] (n=Fraser@thelawsons.plus.com) 19.00.37 Join TMM [0] (n=hp@ip565b35da.direct-adsl.nl) 19.00.49 Join GodEater_ [50] (n=bryan@rockbox/staff/GodEater) 19.02.47 Quit pondlife ("Leaving.") 19.10.48 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 19.13.02 Join Mouser_X [0] (n=mouser@layl001.digis.net) 19.16.51 Quit MethoS_ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 19.17.29 Join bertrik [0] (n=Bertrik_@072-015-045-062.dynamic.caiway.nl) 19.18.54 Quit TMM ("Ex-Chat") 19.19.51 Join MethoS_ [0] (n=clemens@pD955D9DD.dip.t-dialin.net) 19.20.54 Join TMM [0] (n=hp@ip565b35da.direct-adsl.nl) 19.21.02 Quit Fraser (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 19.21.36 Join miepchen^schlaf [0] (n=hihi@p54BF6AE9.dip.t-dialin.net) 19.22.02 Join webguest73 [0] (n=42b3d024@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-ea78eda2d7e21033) 19.24.45 # Problem: Updated my G3 IPOD an am now getting the error " Data abort at 000CC198 (0)". 19.25.13 # I updated by replacing the .rockbox folder. 19.25.25 # I'm going to try and test Buschel's power consumption patch... Should I test on a build from 'then' svn (..86) or current one (...91) 19.25.46 Quit mr_pink () 19.26.17 # webguest73: That is a known problem, so builds work, some don't more or less randomly 19.26.24 # s/so/some 19.26.32 # this is a known problem with some builds on 1st-3rd gen Ipods, you can only return to your old build and try new ones from time to time ... 19.27.07 # Duh, to bad, I didn't think to back up... 19.27.25 # webguest73: there are daily builds available on the site going back a month 19.27.50 # http://www.rockbox.org/daily.shtml 19.27.55 # Any known good for 1st-3rd gen Ipods? 19.28.07 # * GodEater_ hasn't a clue 19.28.18 Join thegeek_ [0] (i=thegeek@s220b.studby.ntnu.no) 19.28.25 # Thank you for your help... I'll start randomly trying some 19.30.44 # the last one working I _definitely- know of is the 2nd January daily (didn't follow as I'm not affected someone reported it here). 19.31.16 # but maybe later ones work as well 19.33.48 # hm is there a known cause for this? 19.34.37 # webguest73: someone in the forums lists working builds for his 2nd gen Ipod > http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=14228.msg106755#msg106755. I'm not sure if they behave exactly the same for 2nd gen and 3rd gen Ipods. 19.36.01 Join Horscht [0] (n=Horscht@xbmc/user/horscht) 19.38.01 # conando: not that I know of (jhMikeS was investing which commit caused it but didn't even get a clear result) 19.42.09 # FYI: 16068 works on G3 IPODS 19.43.03 Join obo [0] (n=obo@rockbox/developer/obo) 19.43.08 Join davina [0] (n=davina@cpc1-sout6-0-0-cust616.sotn.cable.ntl.com) 19.46.35 Quit thegeek (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 19.49.15 Quit GodEater_ ("Leaving") 19.58.51 Join Gnu47 [0] (i=Gnu47@private.ntwk.thita.net) 20.03.26 Join Fraser [0] (n=Fraser@thelawsons.plus.com) 20.07.36 Quit MethoS_ ("Konversation terminated!") 20.09.06 Join Viaken [0] (n=david@adsl-153-158-160.cha.bellsouth.net) 20.09.33 Quit japc (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 20.10.12 # I'm having trouble putting rockbox on my 2 Sansa e260's. I got it on the first one seemingly by luck. Most of the time, I get "unsupported install Method". 20.10.33 Join ch4os_ [0] (n=ch4os@unaffiliated/ch4os/x-059673) 20.12.12 Join MethoS_ [0] (n=clemens@pD955D9DD.dip.t-dialin.net) 20.12.20 # Viaken: Are you following the install instructions in the manual? 20.12.28 # Or are you using Rockbox Utility? 20.12.38 # The utility. 20.12.42 # Is that...not suggested? :P 20.12.42 # Viaken, are you sure it is not a v2 20.12.58 # It's not a v2 that I can tell. 20.13.07 # Viaken: What is the original firmware version? 20.13.32 # "unsupported install Method" seems strange which version of rbutil is this ? 20.13.54 # Original firmware: 01.02.18A 20.14.00 # V1 then 20.14.02 # rbutil m1.0.2 20.14.15 # Couldn't find a Linux download link for m1.0.3 20.14.39 # ah, thats it, try a newer version of rbutil.. 1.0.2 has this bug if you use "complete install" 20.14.43 # * Viaken nods 20.14.54 # Guess I'm compiling from source, then, eh? :P 20.15.19 # Viaken: That's your best shot. 20.15.22 # 1.0.2 should also work, if you restart rbutil, and use the install buttons on the second tab.. 20.15.31 # I tried that and it wouldn't work. *shrugs* 20.15.40 # and make sure that your e260s are set to MSC mode (unfortunately the note is currently only in the "manually install" chapter of the manual IIRC) 20.15.48 # * Viaken nods 20.16.00 # have you restart rbutil before trying the buttons on the second tab ? 20.16.08 # They're definately MSC. They get automounted fine, and I can throw stuff on them if I have to. 20.16.15 # ...that is actually a good question. Let me try it. 20.16.31 # Viaken: Okay. We'll be here. 20.16.31 # *facepalm* I thought I had. 20.16.39 # That worked fine. :P 20.16.46 # Is it installing correctly now? 20.16.50 # :-) 20.17.07 # The bootloader did. 20.17.13 # somebody should update that linux binary of rbutil (not me) :-) 20.17.48 # I'd gladly compile a package if I knew how to get the m1.0.3 release... Only two options I see are precompiled and svn. 20.18.05 Nick linuxstb_ is now known as linuxstb (n=linuxstb@rockbox/developer/linuxstb) 20.18.25 # Domonoky: Would creating .deb and .rpm packages be an option for rbutil as well? 20.18.31 Quit PaulPosition () 20.18.36 # with updateing i mean generating a new statically built version of rbutil out of svn.. 20.19.08 # LambdaCalculus37: i dont think they are needed, rbutil is a single binary.. 20.19.33 # And you shouldn't have to use it too often, ne? 20.19.39 Join Bagder_ [0] (n=daniel@1-1-5-26a.hud.sth.bostream.se) 20.19.53 # but it wouldnt hurt... maybe wait with this for the m1.04 release (this includes .talk and voice generation) 20.20.47 # Domonoky: We could maybe even have a .deb package be part of the Ubuntu repositories. 20.21.06 # But this is merely crazy thoughts dancing in my crazy little brain... 20.21.18 # well, lets wait till it works more often :) 20.21.25 # :) 20.21.33 # Well, thank you very much for your time and help. 20.21.46 Quit asn ("Lost terminal") 20.21.47 # hat would be nice, apt get rbutil :-) but i think rbutil is still not stable enough for this.. ie too much updates.. 20.22.11 # Besides, it's Qt based. Ubuntu is all Gnomish. 20.22.17 # >.> 20.22.24 # Viaken: You forget Kubuntu? :) 20.22.29 # KUbuntu ! :-) 20.22.38 Quit Frazz (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 20.22.39 # No, but Kubuntu != Ubuntu. :P 20.23.21 Join spiorf [0] (n=spiorf@host143-212-dynamic.20-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) 20.24.25 Join JdGordon|w [0] (n=836b0065@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-c76a38467b60280f) 20.24.56 Join Lear [0] (i=chatzill@rockbox/developer/lear) 20.34.30 Quit Bagder (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 20.42.35 Quit stewball`ghost (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 20.46.59 Quit tchan (SendQ exceeded) 20.47.18 Join waldo [0] (n=waldo@ip-81-11-209-77.dsl.scarlet.be) 20.48.07 Quit Horscht ("IRC is just multiplayer notepad") 20.49.24 Join lee-qid [0] (n=liqid@p54964B65.dip.t-dialin.net) 20.52.33 Join MethoS- [0] (n=clemens@pD955D9DD.dip.t-dialin.net) 20.53.28 Quit lee-qid (Client Quit) 20.53.28 Quit MethoS_ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 20.53.39 Quit Rob222241 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 20.57.58 # Hmm...the first two seconds of any song, as well as things that cause a lot of IO and/or processing create a little squeaky static. But it's not unique to rockbox, so *shrugs*. 21.01.17 Join MethoS-- [0] (n=clemens@pD955D9DD.dip.t-dialin.net) 21.01.18 # I should say few seconds. 21.01.52 Quit BigBambi (Remote closed the connection) 21.02.05 Quit rasher (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 21.02.53 Join BigBambi [0] (n=alex@rockbox/staff/BigBambi) 21.04.12 # This "enable replaygain"...does that read tags that are there or attempt to analyze the song and apply it on the player? 21.04.41 # reads them 21.04.52 # It ould be FAR too slow to analyse on dap 21.04.57 # *would 21.05.22 # Then how do you get to chose the type? 21.05.30 # Take a look at the manual, it tells you what the menu items do 21.05.31 # album/track 21.05.39 # Fair enough :) 21.05.49 # You will note another option in the replaygain menu 21.06.00 # That lets you chose which tag is applied in what circumstance 21.07.25 Join Rob2222 [0] (n=Miranda@p54B062E5.dip.t-dialin.net) 21.07.28 Quit hannesd (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 21.10.50 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 21.12.17 Quit Daishi ("Client exiting...") 21.12.29 Join rasher [0] (n=rasher@62.79.64.148.adsl.hs.tiscali.dk) 21.14.01 Quit MethoS- (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 21.14.19 Quit jcollie ("Ex-Chat") 21.14.40 Quit BigBambi ("Please insert girder") 21.14.55 Join BigBambi [0] (n=alex@rockbox/staff/BigBambi) 21.15.01 Join mf0102 [0] (n=michi@85.127.182.187) 21.21.48 Join n17ikh|Lappy [0] (n=n17ikh@130-127-126-19.calhoun.resnet.clemson.edu) 21.23.08 Join tchan [0] (n=tchan@lunar-linux/developer/tchan) 21.23.50 Join FOAD_ [0] (n=dok@dinah.blub.net) 21.29.00 # I suppose it's best to use an mp3 to test battery discharge rate, to take advantage of the hardware decoder? 21.29.34 # only the old archos have hardware decoders.. 21.29.42 # there's no hardware decoder in the e200s 21.29.46 Join Motosuwa [0] (i=WinNT@201.82.60.225) 21.30.15 Nick Bagder_ is now known as Bagder (n=daniel@1-1-5-26a.hud.sth.bostream.se) 21.33.41 # oh 21.33.47 # Well alrighty then 21.35.49 # hey, can I check a modified usb picture using the simulator? 21.36.00 # yeah 21.36.03 # like, can I "connect the simulator" to the pc? 21.36.06 # press u to simulate usb 21.36.13 # oh, simples as that? 21.36.14 # thanks 21.36.30 Join joh2 [0] (n=alex@nrbg-4dbf8cbd.pool.einsundeins.de) 21.37.13 Join lee-qid [0] (n=liqid@p54964B65.dip.t-dialin.net) 21.38.21 Join webguest47 [0] (n=59f73cf1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-bbf5dd4e9778892d) 21.38.51 Quit spiorf (Remote closed the connection) 21.39.53 Quit FOAD (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 21.39.54 Nick FOAD_ is now known as FOAD (n=dok@dinah.blub.net) 21.40.06 # hello, have tried to replace the rockbox software on my H10 and the player is now broken, it tells me Rockbox error : -1; I cross checked several times to have installed as described in the docu, but there seems to be still something wrong 21.40.23 # anybody here who wants to help me ? 21.40.54 # Booting into the original firmware still work? 21.41.36 # did not use the original software for > 1,5 years and so do not know how to boot this 21.41.55 # which docs were you following? 21.42.03 # -1 means you didnt extract rockbox.zip 21.42.16 # maybe I deletet from "/" something I should not have deleted 21.42.22 # and when did you last update? 21.42.33 # ... or your using a really old bootloader which looks for rockbox.mi4 in the wrong place 21.42.46 # * BigBambi was hinting at that :) 21.42.47 # my previous rockbox version was from sept. 2006 21.43.01 # You need to upgrade the bootloader too 21.43.54 # what is the proper name and dir for the bootloader ? docu says "root", but I'm not sure if they mean "/.rockbox/" or "/" 21.43.58 Join GodEater_ [50] (n=bryan@rockbox/staff/GodEater) 21.44.00 # root is / 21.44.23 # Are you using the manual? 21.46.05 # * GodEater_ wonders what word we should use instead of root, since so many people stumble on it 21.46.18 # well, root is the word 21.46.34 # The problem in my mind is the lack of basic computing knowledge 21.46.45 # I don't knwo how else to describe it really 21.46.58 Quit Fraser (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 21.47.18 # It -is- root. Just because people from other operating systems, or with less computing knowledge doesn't know it doesn't mean it's the wrong word to use. 21.47.32 # and the name ? I used "/H10.mi4", approx. 51k , since I was not sure have also "/rockbox.mi4" approx. 530k, have it now in both "/" and ".rockbox" 21.47.42 # s/doesn't know it /, / 21.47.43 # No, but if we could find a nice alternative it would be good to help people out 21.48.01 # webguest47: Are you following the instructions in the manual? 21.48.14 # Maybe a mini description of what root is, every so often? 21.48.21 # I've given up pointing people to the wikipedia page describing what "root" is 21.48.59 # Wikipedia articles can be a bit much for people just wanting to know "what does this word mean?" 21.49.01 # yes, unpacked rockbox, and the fonts + the bootloader, I wonder why at startup still the timestamp of the old bootloader is displayed 21.49.31 # Viaken: We are not suggesting putting it in the manual, just pointing people at it, e.g. in the forums 21.50.03 Join nanok [0] (n=nanok@194.145.183.75) 21.50.03 # webguest47: you've not read the manual properly for the bootloader part 21.50.11 # the H10.mi4 doesn't go in the root directory 21.50.24 # what else ? 21.50.40 # * BigBambi gives up saying read the manual 21.50.58 # webguest47: as BigBambi says : "Read the manual" 21.50.59 # webguest47: hint: its in the manual :-) 21.51.09 # * Bagder suggests reading the manual 21.51.19 Join petur [50] (n=petur@rockbox/developer/petur) 21.51.56 # you are right, it tells system directory 21.52.12 # I mixed up root and system, try now .... 21.52.41 # :rolleyes: 21.54.14 # is there really a "/system" directory ? 21.54.19 # yes 21.54.40 # webguest47: the manual even says how to display it if you can't see it 21.54.57 # then I deleted it before while trying to delete the old stuff 21.55.10 # you mean hidden ? 21.55.12 # * BigBambi sighs 21.55.16 # BigBambi: Some people just don't want to hear rtfm, no matter how politely you say it. :\ 21.55.31 # Time to go home... bye, all! 21.55.33 Quit LambdaCalculus37 ("CGI:IRC") 21.55.39 # http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/ProjectGlossary#Root :) 21.55.52 Join Xerion [0] (i=xerion@cp198589-d.landg1.lb.home.nl) 21.56.22 # was it "/system" or "/.system" ? 21.56.29 # now please stop this 21.56.35 # RTFM 21.56.36 # now 21.56.55 # then come back if there are details in there you don't understand 21.57.18 # first you R, then you go over to T while slowly considering F and the adjacent M 21.57.27 # * GodEater_ steals more of Bagder's past work 21.57.35 # ;-) 21.57.45 # OK 21.57.51 # it's over a year since it was last used anyway 21.58.09 # it is? time sure goes fast these days! 21.58.13 Quit webguest47 ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 21.58.22 # time isn't what it used to be 21.59.10 # Sept25 was our last GoldenQuotes submission 21.59.14 # it's time for a new one 21.59.23 # make history please people 22.00.07 # * GodEater_ wonders if BigBambi is even aware of the GoldenQuotes page 22.00.17 # am indeed :) 22.00.48 # It's a great place for a laugh, IMO. 22.00.50 # it tends to only get mentioned here 22.01.00 # and you've not been an IRC regular for long ;) 22.01.02 # I shall proceed to get more metaphysical 22.01.14 # I read the logs for far longer than I have been here 22.01.19 # ah 22.01.24 # but yeah, there are some crackers there 22.01.58 # I've only made it in there twice - I need to work on that :) 22.02.19 # Bagder: I've been updating the SansaConnect wiki page as I've found things out, but any tips on how to procede? 22.03.22 # I like that it includes curl... :-) 22.04.14 # obo: what's your preferred approach to run stuff on it, to put a replacement upgrade or to attempt a buffer overrun or similar? 22.04.20 # I can't imagine why you'd like that Bagder ;) 22.04.58 # I think buffer overrun... the Atmel AT88SC bit is just plain nasty 22.05.36 # but it is purely MTP, so getting ssh onto it would be a nice start 22.06.05 # are you aware of anything that runs on the web server? 22.06.11 # or which web server? 22.06.32 # ... I would suspect busybox's 22.06.41 # nmap might be able to tell 22.06.50 # it does rudimentary application identification these days 22.06.57 Quit homielowe (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 22.07.16 # its openssl version has numerous security advisories on it 22.07.22 # nmap couldn't ID it... but I have the root filesystem, will have to dig around some more. 22.07.40 # if you find a buffer overrun on the webserver, you could make a wifi bootloader :-) 22.07.54 # Bagder: any holes in that version of libcurl? ;) 22.07.54 # I can't find anything real on the webserver yet 22.07.58 # hehe 22.08.09 # libpng is another option... 22.08.38 # right, that's more of a "classic" 22.08.59 # png is 1.2.8, curl is 7.16.0 22.09.24 # yeah, no known flaw in that curl version (that you can use) 22.09.55 # I never doubted it 22.10.03 # suckup 22.10.05 # curse you and your quality coding 22.10.12 # http://curl.haxx.se/docs/vulnerabilities.html ... 22.10.41 # its slippery, that security business... 22.10.54 Join BRi7X [0] (n=bri7x@c-76-116-107-50.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) 22.11.23 # there are 5 flaws in that libpng version 22.11.24 Quit Lear ("ChatZilla 0.9.79 [Firefox 3.0b3pre/2008011504]") 22.11.49 # * GodEater_ has been playing around with WebGoat recently 22.11.57 # hey folks... my gigabeat f broke again (another hard drive failure)... i'm looking online for another gigabeat f to buy, but i can't find one... can anyone recommend an mp3 player similar to the gigabeat (one that isn't made by apple, preferably) 22.12.47 # is Curl_ossl_version an indication it's using openssl rather than gnutls? 22.13.16 # yes 22.14.23 # and since the server says that and only openssl is listed, I assumed so... 22.14.24 Join DataMatrix-BG [0] (n=4e8e3e4f@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-6eb1f8585c66a0da) 22.14.59 # What are you all trying to get into? 22.15.12 Join Horscht [0] (n=Horscht@xbmc/user/horscht) 22.15.40 # Viaken: Sansa Connect mp3 player 22.16.01 # ahh :? 22.16.03 # :)* 22.16.12 # a Sherif smiley ? 22.16.39 # Heh..suppose that'll work. *shrugs* The keys are right next to each other. 22.17.18 # they're seperated by the 9 key here.... 22.19.57 # L here. 22.20.04 # Or [, depending on which direction you go. 22.20.06 # excusem me for bothering you here 22.20.20 # ...does this discussion sound that important? ;) 22.20.23 # DataMatrix-BG: no excuses required ;) 22.20.42 # im looking for a program to get a copy of my firmware from my MP4 22.21.12 # it's a RockChip RK2608A 22.21.17 # DataMatrix-BG: there aren't generic such ones 22.21.36 Join linuxstb_ [0] (n=chatzill@rockbox/developer/linuxstb) 22.22.29 # i've tried the s1fwx v3.2 & 3.0 22.22.42 # BRi7X: Why not just replace the hard drive? 22.22.43 # they didn't recognize my device 22.23.05 # DataMatrix-BG: This is off topic for rockbox 22.23.20 # k 22.23.21 # So would I just go find the same hard drive and slap it in there? 22.23.26 # DataMatrix-BG: you can't just randomly test programs and assume they'll work... 22.23.42 # Is it a common thing with these hard drives for that to happen? this is the second time this happened within a year 22.23.49 # BigBambi: not if it'll be the base for a new port! ;-) 22.24.03 # very true - I wait with baited breath :) 22.24.10 Join uyx [0] (n=eonxyu@adsl-83-100-201-190.karoo.KCOM.COM) 22.24.34 # BRi7X: depends how often you drop the player... 22.24.37 # BRi7X: The HardDriveReplacement wiki page has lots of nice info. 22.25.14 # hey, any Big Black fans around? 22.25.27 Nick uyx is now known as xyu1 (n=eonxyu@adsl-83-100-201-190.karoo.KCOM.COM) 22.25.35 # well, i am quite clumsy... the first time was because it dropped flat on its back... but this second time i don't remember dropping it that much today 22.25.50 # oh, sorry, didn't read the wiki before saying something. _ 22.26.02 # where's the HardDriveReplacement Wiki? 22.26.16 # on the wiki 22.26.22 # alrighty 22.26.41 # www.rockbox.org/wiki/HardDriveReplacement 22.26.43 # If you don't need as much storage space, you may want to look into a flash-based player. :P 22.26.58 # yeah, they don't mind being dropped as much 22.27.18 Quit DataMatrix-BG ("CGI:IRC") 22.27.32 # anyway : I'm trying to get hold of Atomizer by Big Black, if anyone can help, let me know. :P 22.27.34 # i definitely do need the space, i think i had this 40GB drive filled up half way 22.27.57 # i'm trying to load up the disk contents in konqueror and it's' been stalled since i plugged it in 22.28.48 # there are 64GB CF cards 22.29.13 # not exactly cheap though 22.29.23 # yep 22.29.25 # and that would require more work that just a hard drive replacement 22.29.27 # gah! you're not the RockBox torrent site. Later. :D 22.29.34 Part xyu1 22.29.45 # there are cf-ide adapters of 1.8"(?) size 22.30.03 # there's a rockbox torrent site ? 22.30.11 # news to me 22.30.14 # me too 22.30.27 Quit MethoS-- (Remote closed the connection) 22.30.31 # wow - there is too 22.30.35 # http://www.psism.com/adcf.htm 2.5" 22.31.10 Join einhirn [0] (n=Miranda@p5B030C69.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 22.31.30 # so i'd need an MK4004GAH? 22.31.34 # (i have the F40) 22.32.05 # BRi7X: or any of the other 8mm drives with that connector 22.33.19 # so bascially i can turn an F40 into an F160 if i so desired 22.33.20 # if you can find one, you could fit an MK8007GAH 22.33.20 # http://linitx.com/viewproduct.php?prodid=11521 1.8" 22.33.43 # BRi7X: I don't think there are any 50 pin 160GB 1.8" drives 22.34.04 # 80GB is about as large as you could go 22.34.10 # and those drives are hard to find 22.34.20 Join MethoS_ [0] (n=clemens@pD955D9DD.dip.t-dialin.net) 22.34.21 # but if you DID get one - you'd be able to use it no problem 22.35.20 Quit mf0102 ("Verlassend") 22.36.37 # well, do you know of anyone selling gigabeat f's still? i'd get an s if the s port was up... i was able to get that f40 last may when the other broke 22.36.43 Join desposado45 [0] (n=jose@host98.200-45-254.telecom.net.ar) 22.37.01 # BRi7X: as far as I know, ebay is the only place to get them these days 22.38.20 # http://cgi.ebay.com/Toshiba-Gigabeat-MEG-F40S-40-GB-10000-Songs-MP3_W0QQitemZ250204757912QQihZ015QQcategoryZ73839QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem 22.38.24 # for example... 22.38.51 # nice and cheap too 22.38.57 # and only 2 hours left on the auction 22.39.01 # it's almost tempting... 22.40.16 # very cheap 22.40.49 # how used is used? for some reason i think it's a little bit yes damaged than mine, which is perfectly fine 22.40.58 # * nanok would get one, but tends to drive to hard during the daily comute, a hdd player wouldn't take it.. 22.41.02 # :) 22.41.26 # no one bid on that so i can use it as an example for a guy who has one off of craigslist >_> 22.41.40 # but i need a new gigabeat :( 22.41.41 # pardon? 22.42.08 # * scorche|w whistles 22.42.35 # BRi7X: ignore him :) 22.42.39 # bid on it if you want it 22.42.57 # toffe82 ? 22.43.09 # Nico_P: yes 22.43.26 # hi. I was just wondering whether you knew about S batteries 22.43.35 # mine seems to be quite weak 22.44.07 # less than 8 hours 22.44.27 Join bEnN [0] (n=chatzill@dsl-58-6-92-21.act.westnet.com.au) 22.44.33 # ooh - there's a G5 there too 22.44.38 Quit desowin () 22.44.38 # haven't seen one of those before 22.44.41 Quit Axio () 22.44.48 # I never really measured, but I'm always surprised by how it goes down... I guess I should measure once 22.44.53 # I use it in the past and didn't get more than that 22.44.56 # "tem is in good condition. I have owned it for about a year. I don't have a need for it anymore. Your loss is my gain." 22.45.01 # hahaha 22.45.04 # I never actually use the player though 22.45.04 # that's nice 22.45.05 # do you have harmonics on ? 22.45.09 # "your loss is my gain" 22.45.10 # does anyone know a good linux distro to compile on? 22.45.16 # There's a MES60 up there for $132 too 22.45.24 # bEnN: they all work just the same 22.45.26 Quit MethoS_ (Remote closed the connection) 22.45.30 # toffe82: I don't think so, but as I said I only use the player for occasional rockbox hacking 22.45.39 # i need one that can compile, and can be loaded on2 a usb 22.45.45 # GodEaterI got a s60 for 50$ 2 weeks ago ;) 22.45.54 # toffe82: a working one ? 22.46.03 # bEnN: maybe try damn small linux? 22.46.14 # nanok: don't think it ships with gcc does it ? 22.46.19 # it was supposed to be broken but it was working, I just reload the firmware 22.46.20 # running on zunelinuz 22.46.21 # any others, dsl doesnt work with my internet 22.46.23 # bEnN: i am not sure about the development tools included though 22.46.38 # ubuntu would be good, but to big 22.46.41 # GodEater_: yeah, that's the problem 22.46.58 # toffe82: nice result ;) 22.47.10 Join MethoS_ [0] (n=clemens@pD955D9DD.dip.t-dialin.net) 22.47.24 # I can't think of any "usb stick" distros which ship with development tools 22.47.33 # bEnN: you could also try knoppix, maybe. it surely is one of the fastest ways to get a fucntional linux desktop to your machine 22.47.55 # i can only install it on a usb 22.47.58 # toffe82: what are you doing with all these gigabeats? ;) 22.48.05 # fastest and easyest (not much trouble). it is not small though 22.48.11 Quit MethoS_ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 22.48.16 Join MethoS_mobile_ [0] (n=clemens@pD955D9DD.dip.t-dialin.net) 22.48.22 # is there a way to strip it down under 500mb? 22.48.25 # GodEater: see TowerOfRockbox wiki ;) 22.48.45 # :) 22.49.05 # you're buying them JUST to make a TowerOfRockbox? 22.49.09 # I'm not sure I buy it ;) 22.49.31 Quit tchan ("WeeChat 0.2.7-dev") 22.49.43 # I have only 6 working one f11 , 2 f10 1 s30 1s60 and a v30 22.50.02 # you're not going to get a G then ? :) 22.50.04 # all the other, like 15 are broken 22.50.22 # can any1 to a little compile thingy for me 22.50.30 # just change a bit of code in the bootloader? 22.50.36 # I forgot I have a X30 22.50.52 # the one I actually use 22.51.07 # why, toffe82? 22.51.14 # bEnN: why not use either the vmware image, or cygwin? 22.51.15 # isn't one player enough? 22.51.18 # then you don't need linux at all 22.51.28 # what is cygwin like? 22.51.34 # cause vmware is to big 22.51.36 # toffe82: there's a G5 gigabeat on ebat too 22.51.40 Join MethoS- [0] (n=clemens@pD955D9DD.dip.t-dialin.net) 22.51.41 # ebay even 22.52.07 # how is the Gigabeat S port coming along? i hear homebrew code is runnable now? 22.52.29 # BRi7X: it's coming along nicely :) 22.52.39 # still not "user" ready yet 22.52.43 # Horscht: I am a collector 22.52.59 # ooh, there's a V30 too 22.53.07 Quit MethoS_mobile_ (Remote closed the connection) 22.53.14 Join Domonoky_ [0] (n=Domonoky@92.226.128.250) 22.53.33 Quit ch4os_ ("Lost terminal") 22.54.18 # with cygwin, is it easy to uninstall, because im only lickly to use it once 22.54.54 Part desposado45 ("Saliendo") 22.55.50 # toffe82: is the T400 hardware interesting ? 22.56.00 # so i just bid on that used f40 (no one screw me, please... haha)... so by the time that breaks, S port might be done? 22.56.05 # I don't know, never see it 22.56.13 # http://cgi.ebay.com/Toshiba-Gigabeat-T400-Portable-Media-Player-Pink-New_W0QQitemZ160198323980QQihZ006QQcategoryZ73839QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem 22.56.25 # just your colour if it's really pink :) :) 22.56.51 # BRi7X: there are lots of other F40s for sale there too - but I don't think anyone here is quite mean enough to jack the price on purpose 22.57.18 # as for the "when" on the S port - it's impossible to say 22.57.26 Join japc [0] (n=japc@bl7-248-122.dsl.telepac.pt) 22.57.28 # as usual - we don't give release dates / estimates 22.57.42 # any ETA on the ETA? 22.57.47 Join MethoS_mobile_ [0] (n=clemens@pD955D9DD.dip.t-dialin.net) 22.58.08 Join AceNik [0] (n=AceNik@117.98.18.45) 22.58.09 # I can't believe the number of gigabeat S for sale now 22.58.17 # there were NONE to be seen when I looked a few months back 22.58.20 # there's bloody LOADS now 22.58.41 # is that a sign that it's not good? 22.58.53 # ... 22.59.04 # they've given up waiting on the rockbox port? B-] 22.59.09 # Bagder: hehehe 22.59.10 # GodEater: a lot have a broken lcd 22.59.17 # so should I buy a gigabeat S and keep it in storage until the rockbox port is ready? 22.59.27 # if you like 22.59.33 # BRi7X: that's entirely up to you 23.00.16 # right - it's past my bedtime - later all 23.00.22 Quit GodEater_ ("Leaving") 23.01.26 # guys fs#8379 seems to be very promising, im using it on my h10 currently seems to have made it much more stable in terms of battery readings atleast, should notice an increase, can anyone else pitch in to continue work on it ? 23.01.56 # can someone change a bit of code in the ipod bootloader for me 23.02.41 # bEnN, you can download the source and do it yourself 23.03.25 # im just warery of using cygwin, as my computer is getting quirte slowq 23.04.42 # cygwin shouldn't slow down your computer when it isn't running. 23.05.35 # how about uninstalling, is it easy? 23.06.06 # as im only going to use it once 23.06.33 # i would assume it's easy enough. 23.07.00 # hey amiconn you there? 23.07.20 # ill try it 23.09.18 Join uwe_ [0] (n=uwe@dslb-084-056-027-013.pools.arcor-ip.net) 23.09.32 Quit petur ("gonne") 23.10.28 # * einhirn unlurks 23.10.30 Quit Domonoky (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 23.10.45 # Good evening (at least in CET) 23.10.52 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 23.12.40 # morning 23.14.04 # and in EST... 23.14.35 Quit bEnN (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 23.15.13 Join bEnN [0] (n=chatzill@dsl-58-6-92-21.act.westnet.com.au) 23.15.22 # omfg firefox crashed :'( 23.16.28 Quit bEnN (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 23.16.32 Join asn [0] (n=asn@athedsl-300835.home.otenet.gr) 23.17.14 Join bEnN [0] (n=chatzill@dsl-58-6-92-21.act.westnet.com.au) 23.17.56 # hey can come1 help me install cygin? 23.18.38 # This page can - http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/CygwinDevelopment 23.18.42 Quit davina (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 23.18.52 # on the page with tha pictures 23.19.03 # it has a tar archiver ticked 23.19.08 # i cant find one in my installer 23.20.22 Quit uwe__ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 23.21.21 Join davina [0] (n=davina@cpc1-sout6-0-0-cust616.sotn.cable.ntl.com) 23.22.05 # dw 23.22.07 Quit bEnN (Client Quit) 23.22.29 # riiiight 23.25.45 # aww, some dick keeps outbidding me on the Gigabeat F40 23.26.02 # it wasn't me! 23.26.12 Quit Febs ("ChatZilla 0.9.79 [Firefox 2.0.0.11/2007112718]") 23.26.22 # some guy named humphrey bogart 23.26.28 # bogarting my next gigabeat 23.27.07 Quit bertrik ("bye") 23.28.43 # man, this sucks 23.33.00 # BRi7X: your nick reminds me of http://brix-os.sourceforge.net/ 23.33.32 # i've been told it looks like bricks a lot... it's really pronounced Bri (as in Brian) then seven X 23.34.22 Quit MethoS_mobile_ (Remote closed the connection) 23.35.20 Quit tvelocity (Remote closed the connection) 23.35.22 Join webguest82 [0] (n=44262e8c@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-54eedec6dbf87662) 23.36.56 Quit webguest82 (Client Quit) 23.38.22 Quit Toxicity999 ("leaving") 23.40.34 # BRi7X: how do you pronounce the seven x's? all together, or each spelles separately? 23.40.48 # spelled 23.44.24 Nick parafin is now known as parafin|away (i=parafin@paraf.in) 23.50.42 # Seven X, separately 23.50.55 # sometimes i do the following to avoid confusion 23.50.58 Join ompaul [0] (n=ompaul@gnewsense/friend/ompaul) 23.50.58 Nick BRi7X is now known as Brian7X (n=bri7x@c-76-116-107-50.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) 23.51.01 Quit AceNik (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 23.51.35 # Brian7X, nanok, please keep in mind this is an on-topic channel 23.51.49 Join henger [0] (n=henger@p5B0B6E04.dip.t-dialin.net) 23.52.01 Join jhulst [0] (n=jhulst@unaffiliated/jhulst) 23.52.14 # yes I know, which brings me to my next point, could you recommend a player besides gigabeat f (with very similar features, but not an ipod)? 23.52.24 Part henger 23.52.28 # one of those similar features is of course rockbox compatibility 23.52.30 # the BuyersGuide on the wiki would be a good start 23.52.42 Join henger [0] (n=henger@p5B0B6E04.dip.t-dialin.net) 23.52.46 # what's your personal choice? 23.52.55 # gigabeat f 23.53.00 # * linuxstb_ too ;) 23.53.07 # e280 23.53.18 # the s, probably, if/when rockbox gets ported 23.54.23 Join jac0b [0] (n=jac0b@user-11favj9.dsl.mindspring.com) 23.54.50 # to use the simulator with linux do I need to install wine 23.55.01 # no 23.55.14 Quit Rob2222 () 23.55.15 # there's a native simulator for linux 23.55.18 # how do I strt it 23.55.26 # start* 23.55.32 Join Rob2222 [0] (n=Miranda@p54B062E5.dip.t-dialin.net) 23.55.38 # cd to the directory, ./rockboxui 23.56.15 # & 23.56.18 Quit MethoS- (Remote closed the connection) 23.56.46 Part henger 23.57.11 Join tchan [0] (n=tchan@lunar-linux/developer/tchan) 23.57.58 # jac0b, more information can be found on the UiSimulator wiki page, including how to build it for linux 23.58.13 # thanks 23.58.29 Quit Domonoky_ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer))