--- Log for 19.01.108 Server: clarke.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 17 days and 18 hours ago 00.00.24 # * preglow tries buschel's patch with the ipod video stuff commented in 00.00.52 Join Shaid` [0] (i=shaid@124-168-70-114.dyn.iinet.net.au) 00.02.14 # mok, obviously, not everything is the same in nano as in 5g... 00.04.55 # if you ever thought Rockbox's build system is hard to grasp, never ever try out uclinux... :-/ 00.05.12 # * Bagder waves fist 00.06.33 Nick parafin is now known as parafin|away (i=parafin@paraf.in) 00.06.34 # rockbox's build system is simple... 00.07.00 # Well, in theory ;) 00.09.37 # * preglow summons Buschel 00.15.44 # i have an e280r and i ran into something that never happened before.. when you have the sansa plugged while playing a song, then when you unplug the cable it causes the song to pause and the you have to hit play again 00.16.30 Quit robin0800 (" HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- \o/") 00.17.51 Quit Shaid (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00.17.52 Nick Shaid` is now known as Shaid (i=shaid@124-168-70-114.dyn.iinet.net.au) 00.17.55 Quit ender` (" Intelligence is the ability to avoid doing work, yet getting the work done. -- Linus Torvalds") 00.20.12 # advlaptop2019: strange, i have an e200 also (non-r), never happened to me either 00.20.34 # buth i have a few days old build. are you running the current one? 00.21.44 # nanok, yep 00.22.11 # hm. maybe some recent changes 00.22.46 # but the main issue i think is that, at this point, there is litle reason to have the sansa plugged in while running rockbox anyway :( 00.23.12 # litle if any.. 00.24.11 # nanok, i know but to charge it.. but anyway i tried it again and it does it again 00.24.40 # well, in my experience charging doesn't work either 00.24.48 # does it work for you? 00.25.20 # nanok, once in a while that is all 00.25.25 # (if charging would work i would be very happy, i would have all the reasons to have it plugged in while running rockbox) 00.26.13 Quit scorche|w ("CGI:IRC") 00.26.15 # i know it is *supposed* to work, but for some reason never worked for me 00.26.30 # the sansa does charge 00.26.47 # kugel: reliably? 00.26.55 # i don't know, maybe i am doing something wrong 00.27.01 # I went to a journey 00.27.12 # I was moving in a train providing power supply 00.27.36 # I started with an empty sansa, plugged the cable into the power source and watched some videos 00.27.57 # my sansa was full after the jouney, and it's not empty yet 00.28.14 # i'll be damned if i understand.. 00.28.22 # i never did try a wall adapter though 00.28.29 # however, the travelling in the train took me 6 1/2 hours each direction, so I can't tell you how fast it charges 00.29.00 # only connection to pc (where the rockbox has to actually request for power, i think in the case of wall cargers it doesn't have to ask) 00.29.51 # speed is not the question at this point. i left it overnight when testing this, so it had plenty of time 00.30.13 # not sure about that 00.30.24 # wasn't a PC power source, indeed 00.30.26 # kugel: i think the main point here is that i was talking about pc (usb port) connection 00.30.44 # however, rockbox asks for full power allready, so that shouldn't be an issue 00.30.48 # i think with a wall/car charger it should work regardless 00.31.00 # well, it should do that, yes 00.31.04 # actually charging the battery is kinda different 00.31.56 # but true, I allready heard that charging isn't working properly, even worse than before the stuff with full power requesting 00.32.21 # you mean charging in general 00.32.30 # hm.. 00.32.40 # nanok: I meant, it asks for full power, so there shouldn't be any difference between PC power source and normal power source 00.32.59 # kugel: i get it, yeah 00.33.20 # but the wall charger might deliver more than 500mA 00.33.42 # i am not sure if the sansa will use more though 00.33.49 # nope 00.33.53 # just took a look 00.34.10 # other than that, should be no difference, *if* the power request actually works correctly 00.34.23 # shouldn't give more actually, since it's a generic usb-to-power adapter 00.35.01 # i've been meaning to check what it does on connect, but i need to find some usb sniffer for linux 00.35.37 # i could also rig up some contraption with a multi metter to see what currnet actually passes through there once connected.. 00.35.43 # jhMikeS: could your ata_init commit potentially have an effect on the skipping issues? 00.40.25 # kugel and nanok, this pausing with only power.. and without the data side enabled 00.40.55 # advlaptop2019: can you reproduce it? 00.41.36 # kugel, yea with the latest rockbox build 00.42.58 # Nico_P: can't see how. it's only to fix an init bug and make sure the USB thread doesn't call in while something else is accessing the disk. 00.43.52 # right. It's just that as it touched ata_init, I thought it might be somehow related 00.45.05 # JdGordon|zzz: still sleeping? :/ 00.46.33 # hehe no 00.46.44 # apparently i forgot to remove that this morning :p 00.46.52 Nick JdGordon|zzz is now known as JdGordon|yyy (n=jonno@usw3662-s-207-244-148-63.dsl.w-link.net) 00.46.58 # hehe 00.48.35 # JdGordon|yyy: sadly, I missed that you created a seperate entry for your list stuff (http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/8457) 00.48.55 Quit jdsalinger () 00.49.01 # just noticed it today 00.49.23 # Looks damn nice so far (beside the issues). Did you read my comment? 00.49.34 # yeah, but forgot to reply 00.49.41 # ill do that quiclly 00.49.50 # advlaptop2019: do you have car adapter mode enabled? 00.50.02 # Btw, I don't really like the concept of the .vp file either 00.50.07 # obo: good point :) 00.51.28 # obo, i will check 00.53.13 # who knows where my beanie is? :'( 00.54.19 # JdGordon|yyy: behind the couch 00.54.37 # obo, odd.. it was on before and never had that happen before.. with it turned off it works ok now 00.55.39 # bignose: so close :) on the couch under my jumper 00.55.42 # JdGordon|yyy: " .y = 8," ?? 00.55.56 # statusbar 00.56.01 # * JdGordon|yyy gone 00.56.05 Quit JdGordon|yyy ("Konversation terminated!") 00.56.07 # well, assumed that 00.56.39 # though, I imagine users having it turned off. I highly doubt the offset wanted then 00.56.56 Join TMM [0] (n=hp@ip565b35da.direct-adsl.nl) 00.57.34 Quit BigBambi (Remote closed the connection) 00.57.36 # (besides that you could've used STATUSBAR_HEIGHT 00.57.38 # ) 00.58.27 # oh, he's gone 00.58.32 # just noticed 01.00.48 Quit lee-qid (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 01.03.11 Join karashata [0] (n=Kimi@bas3-kitchener06-1096649533.dsl.bell.ca) 01.04.21 Join BigBambi [0] (n=alex@rockbox/staff/BigBambi) 01.04.57 Join miepchen^schlaf [0] (n=hihi@p54BF432C.dip.t-dialin.net) 01.09.21 Part linuxstb 01.12.42 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 01.13.06 # amiconn: here? 01.13.58 Quit BigBambi (Remote closed the connection) 01.14.50 Join BigBambi [0] (n=alex@rockbox/staff/BigBambi) 01.17.44 Quit hannesd ("Client suicide") 01.23.03 Join Nudger [0] (n=Nudger@77-97-134-194.cable.ubr06.shef.blueyonder.co.uk) 01.23.26 Quit conando (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 01.24.18 # Anyone around? 01.24.44 # I'm trying to install Rockbox onto a iPod Video, and I'm just wondering if doing so with the automatic installation method will wipe the songs on it? 01.33.28 # it will not, Nudger 01.33.33 # Fantastic 01.33.51 # Assuming you mean Rockbox's RBUtil, and not some third-party POS. 01.35.00 Quit karashata (" HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- Wibbly Wobbly IRC") 01.35.59 Quit Febs ("ChatZilla 0.9.79 [Firefox 2.0.0.11/2007112718]") 01.36.02 # I don't know what that means 01.36.15 # but I'm following the installation manual, I hope that's a good thing 01.36.20 # it is. 01.37.15 # Just making sure - we have lots (?) (enough) people crying "Rockbox F#$%ed my iPod!", only to find out later they were using some crazy autoinstall script from 11 months ago found on somebody's myspace page. 01.37.57 # oh heh ok 01.38.14 # so do i just use the Rbutil? 01.38.47 # sure - it works for most iPods & most people. If it doesn't work for you, the manual install isn't that hard at all. 01.39.08 Quit obo ("bye") 01.39.13 # This is a 5th or 5.5th gen iPod, though - not the new iPod Classic? 01.39.24 # It's a 60GB video 01.39.33 Join crzyboyster [0] (n=4b596e13@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-2008628cf87f4824) 01.39.36 # i'm confused, what am i downloading then 01.40.02 # I just finished the Hindi translation! http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/8446 01.41.08 Quit BlackChaos (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 01.42.16 # i'm taking it rbutilqt-v1.0.2.zip is the most recent stable version? 01.42.59 # And does anyone know what happened to Mustapha Senhaji (DrMoos)? 01.43.34 # I'm asking because he said that he would commit the translation a while ago, but it hasn't happened yet... 01.44.52 Quit Axio () 01.46.37 # what is "Unsupported Bootloader Install method." 01.46.51 Quit kugel (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 01.52.07 Join donutman25 [0] (n=chatzill@65.75.87.48) 01.57.21 Quit Nudger ("kyok yok yok") 01.57.33 # what is that quote from? 01.58.44 # But I feel I can safely say, regardless of original context, that anything but the two methods mentioned explicitly in the manual would be an unsupported bootloader install method. 02.00.06 Part toffe82 02.12.50 Part pixelma 02.13.16 Quit Jon-Kha (Remote closed the connection) 02.13.28 Quit donutman25 ("ChatZilla 0.9.80 [Firefox 2.0.0.11/2007112718]") 02.14.15 Quit Nico_P (Remote closed the connection) 02.14.21 Join tedr0ck [0] (n=tedrock@d235-159-75.home1.cgocable.net) 02.16.54 # soap: That's a message RBUtil will give, I believe, under circumstances I'm completely unsure of. 02.18.14 Join asn [0] (n=asn@athedsl-114162.home.otenet.gr) 02.20.34 Quit crzyboyster ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)") 02.21.26 Quit waldo (Remote closed the connection) 02.23.53 Quit tedrock (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 02.24.29 Quit weezerle ("...und tschüss!") 02.29.29 # Sorry for bothering you with my lame newbish C stuff, but I wonder something, since I'm not really familiar with code with more than 3 #includes :p Let's take for example credits.c, that source file uses the function utf8seek, and it includes plugin.h and helper.h. How can I find what utf8seek does? It's code is neither in plugin.h or helper.h 02.43.18 Join gtkspert_ [0] (n=gtkspert@124-169-58-168.dyn.iinet.net.au) 02.44.42 # asn: its prototype would be in one of those .h files (or one they reference maybe?), its actual code would probably be in a coresponding .c file 02.45.18 # asn: at least thats usually how it works... also you can learn to use 'grep' 02.45.53 Quit EspeonEefi (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 02.46.07 # ze: thank you. 02.55.38 # ze: Alright found it. The code was in firmware/common/unicode.c . Is there a reason on why utf8seek returns "pos" twice? 02.56.07 # let me pastebin it for you 02.56.27 # Oops, it _doesnt_ return pos twice 02.56.41 # Sorry, tired eyes 02.58.39 Quit gtkspert (Read error: 101 (Network is unreachable)) 03.04.40 Quit spiorf (Remote closed the connection) 03.12.46 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 03.15.39 Join cool_walking_ [0] (n=anthony@203.161.101.209.static.amnet.net.au) 03.17.57 Quit saratoga ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 03.30.27 Quit ol_schoola () 03.34.29 Quit cool_walking_ (Remote closed the connection) 03.35.15 Quit DerDome (Nick collision from services.) 03.35.18 Join DerDom1 [0] (n=DerDome@dslb-082-083-208-053.pools.arcor-ip.net) 03.35.28 Nick DerDom1 is now known as DerDome (n=DerDome@dslb-082-083-208-053.pools.arcor-ip.net) 03.35.37 Quit DerDome (Client Quit) 03.57.29 Quit asn ("Lost terminal") 04.08.13 Quit Thundercloud (Remote closed the connection) 04.09.24 Join psycho_maniac [0] (i=psycho_m@ppp047.hk.centurytel.net) 04.16.26 Join JavaMan22 [0] (n=HP_Admin@c-69-253-163-192.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) 04.16.34 # is rockbox able to run on 1.2.3? 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08.51.49 # No 08.51.50 # it is not 08.51.54 # That's why it's still not listed on the front page. 08.53.42 Quit tedrock (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 08.54.06 Join tedrock [0] (n=tedrock@d235-159-75.home1.cgocable.net) 08.54.15 # ok thanks, that rather sucks as i traded in my sister's clip for a e260 so she could have rockbox and seem smarter[lol] 08.55.52 Part bluefoxx 09.02.28 Join Mathiasdm [0] (n=Mathias@d54C597B6.access.telenet.be) 09.03.58 Join pixelma [50] (i=pixelma@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 09.08.34 # wait, what's v2? 09.12.37 Join ch4os_ [0] (n=ch4os@unaffiliated/ch4os/x-059673) 09.12.54 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 09.17.21 Join advlaptop2019_ [0] (n=advcomp2@unaffiliated/advcomp2019) 09.18.29 Join conando [0] (n=john@dslb-084-060-164-064.pools.arcor-ip.net) 09.19.21 Quit advlaptop2019 (Nick collision from services.) 09.19.53 Nick advlaptop2019_ is now known as advlaptop2019 (n=advcomp2@unaffiliated/advcomp2019) 09.21.37 Quit jhulst (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 09.23.07 Quit advlaptop2019 ("Leaving") 09.28.31 Join crashmat1ix [0] (n=crashmat@s5590785f.adsl.wanadoo.nl) 09.31.46 Join Jon-Kha [0] (i=jon-kha@80-248-247-190.cust.suomicom.fi) 09.35.48 Join Casainho [0] (n=chatzill@87-196-46-116.net.novis.pt) 09.35.55 # good morning Rockbox people! :-) 09.36.35 # I am here to ask if there is any hardware wich RB work, that have a LCD of 128x128.... 09.38.18 # the iriver H10 5GB devices do 09.38.54 # scorche: and is a bw or color LCD? :-) 09.39.04 # color 09.39.29 Quit crashmatrix (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 09.40.38 # * pixelma recommends the DeviceChart in the wiki for further reference ;) 09.40.41 Join linuxstb [0] (n=chatzill@rockbox/developer/linuxstb) 09.40.54 # * scorche actually used the list on http://rockbox-themes.org/ 09.41.30 # but yes... DeviceChart is very handy 09.43.16 # thank you - I saw now on device chart :-) 09.43.26 # IriverH10Port uses a 128x128 color LCD :-) 09.43.43 # no...just the 5GB model does 09.43.48 # thats importante because we are trying to use a nokia 128x128 color LCD 09.44.30 # well, is there any link for the 5GB model on TWiki? 09.44.49 # what sort of link? 09.45.53 # The page you mentioned (IriverH10Port) has links to the other H10 pages. 09.45.59 # well, I just have a link for the IriverH10Port... and not for the 5GB 09.46.38 # I doubt there is a page specific to the 5GB version - IIUC, the only difference between the two H10s is the LCD size. 09.47.48 # and the HD size ;) (and the physical size is a bit different because of it) 09.47.59 # ah, okok - so I will link to that page and say that the 5GB version have a 128x128 LCD :-) 09.48.29 # but I couldn't find a specific site for the small one too 09.48.48 # s/site/page 09.49.11 # since we will use a nokia LCD of 128x128 color, I think that we will be able to use the drivers, code of that from IriverH10 5GB version :-) 09.49.56 # same lcd size doesn't mean it can use the same drivers 09.50.03 # necessarily 09.50.19 Join hcs [0] (n=agashlin@rockbox/contributor/hcs) 09.50.44 # pixelma: well, I know that there is specific drivers, for hardware 09.51.36 # we will link the LCD from MCU by Two Wires Interface - TWI and we have all information to initialize the LCD, etc... 09.52.37 # but I think there should be some code, after that, that will draw lines, etc... and that code (also drivers??) is specific for a color LCD, of xx X xx pixels, no? 09.52.44 # Casainho: The size of the LCD isn't important, it's the format it stores the pixel data in. So far, all our colour LCD targets are using the same high-level framebuffer drawing code because the format is the same (or very similar). 09.53.03 # LCD_WIDTH and LCD_HEIGHT are simply #defines. 09.53.20 # and then there is the av300.. 09.53.39 # nice, so should be even easier, I think :-) 09.54.51 # linuxstb: what is the format that it stores pixel data? - how can I identify that at looking for datahseet of the LCD? :-) 09.55.44 # Each pixel is stored in two adjacent bytes, in RGB565 format, moving horizontally from the top-left to bottom right. 09.56.22 # Some devices require that in little-endian format, others in big-endian, but that's handled with macros. 09.57.25 # But I think that's more or less standard for colour LCDs, or at least all the ones in Rockbox devices so far. 09.59.15 # You may want to consider mono or greyscale LCDs though - they have the advantage of being much easier to read without backlight. 09.59.27 # Some colour LCDs can't be read at all without backlight. 10.00.48 # linuxstb: well, I think we will be able to control the amount of the bakclight - we will design our hardware :-9 ;-) 10.01.14 Quit miepchen^schlaf (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 10.01.15 # that isnt quite the point.. 10.02.40 # so what is the point? :-) - look at one image of the LCD wrking here: http://www.sparkfun.com/tutorial/Nokia%206100%20LCD%20Display%20Driver.pdf 10.04.45 # The point is that any backlight uses power, and it's nice if an LCD can be read without it. 10.04.54 # one of the points is that in many cases, backlight is a waste of energy, when you would normally be able to see just fine without backlight on a manachome/greyscale device 10.05.16 # bah...beaten 10.05.23 # ah, okok, I understand now 10.05.35 # But of course a colour LCD is prettier... 10.06.04 # think of "manachome" as a more magical version of "monochrome" 10.06.07 # It would be niceIf we will have some control of amount of energy is used on backlight, like controling by PWM 10.06.34 Join miepchen^schlaf [0] (n=hihi@p54BF68F9.dip.t-dialin.net) 10.06.45 # well, this nokia LCD is very cheap :-) - I think that is more cheap that one of bw 10.06.50 Quit amiconn (Nick collision from services.) 10.06.57 Join amiconn [50] (n=jens@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 10.14.19 Join petur [50] (n=petur@rockbox/developer/petur) 10.17.52 Join jhulst [0] (n=jhulst@unaffiliated/jhulst) 10.19.12 Join ender` [0] (i=krneki@84-255-206-8.static.t-2.net) 10.27.32 Join GodEater_ [50] (n=bryan@rockbox/staff/GodEater) 10.29.26 Join Mathiasdm2 [0] (n=Mathias@d54C597B6.access.telenet.be) 10.37.25 Join petur2 [0] (n=petur@d54C2B123.access.telenet.be) 10.37.52 Quit petur (Nick collision from services.) 10.37.56 Nick petur2 is now known as petur (n=petur@d54C2B123.access.telenet.be) 10.40.45 Join ol_schoola [0] (n=meatwad@c-67-167-20-91.hsd1.il.comcast.net) 10.44.54 Join Redbreva [0] (n=Miranda@host217-42-182-148.range217-42.btcentralplus.com) 10.45.28 Join tedr0ck [0] (n=tedrock@d235-159-75.home1.cgocable.net) 10.45.41 Quit tedrock (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 10.46.51 Quit Mathiasdm (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 10.49.56 Join Lear [0] (i=chatzill@rockbox/developer/lear) 10.52.52 # bye bye :-) 10.53.14 Quit Casainho ("ChatZilla 0.9.80 [Firefox 2.0.0.6/2007100814]") 10.58.40 Quit petur (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 11.00.49 Join petur [50] (n=petur@rockbox/developer/petur) 11.01.53 Quit Redbreva ("Miranda IM! 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DEV_LCD seems to be used for the internal LCD-bridge, 5G has the Broadcom chip. IDE0 is used, no ATA 12.59.39 # maybe some other of the bits are also connected to LCD stuff? 13.01.11 # Buschel: well, the lcd did indeed fail :-) 13.01.20 # i'll try again now with lcd 13.01.40 # preglow: I expected this :o) Maybe should have written a note... (*evil grin*) 13.02.14 # Buschel: those need to be set DEV_EN ? 13.02.19 # in 13.02.24 # yes 13.02.55 # well, let's see 13.03.36 # btw, DEV_EN -> 0x100 seems to enable the GPIOs somehow. When unsetting this bit the bacxklight control does not work and there is no change in the GPIO_INPUT_VALs -- no matter what you do... 13.03.46 # *backlight 13.04.05 # there's something weird happening on the screen when it boots now 13.04.20 # then it seems to hang 13.05.19 Join FOAD_ [0] (n=dok@dinah.blub.net) 13.05.48 # hmm, you're now setting DEV_EN = xc6004124 ? 13.05.50 # Buschel: do you think the DEV_RS lines are harmless no matter what i do above that code? 13.06.00 # preglow: remove them 13.06.10 # Buschel: 0xc6004124, yes 13.07.16 # same result without them 13.07.17 # brb 13.07.19 Join linuxstb [0] (n=linuxstb@rockbox/developer/linuxstb) 13.08.00 # preglow: what's the value of DEV_EN with the unchanged patch and the ipod being idle and not connected via USB? 13.09.50 Quit stripwax_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 13.13.00 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 13.13.57 Join stripwax_ [0] (n=Miranda@87-194-34-169.bethere.co.uk) 13.16.20 Join lee-qid [0] (n=liqid@p5496692B.dip.t-dialin.net) 13.20.01 # checking now 13.20.16 Quit phossy (Remote closed the connection) 13.21.16 # 0xc2811977 13.21.32 Quit FOAD (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 13.21.32 Nick FOAD_ is now known as FOAD (n=dok@dinah.blub.net) 13.22.13 Join obo [0] (n=obo@rockbox/developer/obo) 13.24.26 Part pixelma 13.24.26 Quit Domonoky (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 13.24.51 Join Domonoky [0] (n=Domonoky@92.227.83.6) 13.28.50 # preglow: and with this config everything works fine? 13.29.30 # yeah 13.29.35 # like hell, done a runtime test and all 13.31.29 # hmm, try to unset 0x00800000, 0x10 and 0x1 (three builds) 13.32.40 Quit stripwax (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 13.33.50 Join phossy [0] (n=martin@79-68-49-96.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) 13.34.34 Join stripwax [0] (n=Miranda@87-194-34-169.bethere.co.uk) 13.35.42 Quit petur ("here today, gone tomorrow") 13.37.09 Join davina [0] (n=davina@cpc1-sout6-0-0-cust616.sotn.cable.ntl.com) 13.37.55 # Buschel: seems to work 13.38.24 # all three? 13.38.29 # yeap 13.39.28 # hmm, then setting DEV_EN = 0xc2000124 for nano at startup is identical. 13.39.48 # which is same as 5G 13.41.39 # what are the values for DEV_EN2 and DEV_EN3 when the ipod is idle? 13.44.39 # 0x2000 for en2 13.44.46 # 0x0007003f for en3 13.46.34 # what happens if you unset DEV_EN2 0x2000? or EN3 0x70000? 13.48.26 Join asn [0] (n=asn@athedsl-114162.home.otenet.gr) 13.49.07 Quit obo ("bye") 13.50.04 Quit stripwax_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 13.50.50 # will try 13.52.39 Join Arathis [0] (n=doerk@p508A6682.dip.t-dialin.net) 13.54.55 # preglow: http://pastebin.com/d3cb4f13d -> for nano instead of using the whole initialization of GPO32/DEV_INITs/DEV_RSs 13.55.26 # maybe the DEV_INITs or GPO-changes produce the problems? 13.56.08 # moos: a lot of missed strings in Hindi: http://rasher.dk/rockbox/translate/problems.php?lang=hindi 13.57.26 Join jott [0] (n=j@unaffiliated/jott) 13.59.35 # rasher: let's Apoo update it, that's just the initial version, updates will come 14.00.04 # moos: Those are not missing strings though, just strings left untouched, so they won't be caught by genlang 14.00.26 # yup english ones you mean? 14.00.34 # It would probably make sense to include a link to that page when closing a language-related task 14.01.06 # moos: I mean genlang won't mark them with ###, so he'll have to find them himself (or look at my page..) 14.02.14 # Buschel: ok, dev2 needs to be there 14.02.26 # rasher: I pointed him to your page in a mail answered 14.03.06 # preglow: what happens, if unset? 14.03.32 # moos: Sounds good 14.05.20 # Buschel: apple logo remains on the screen 14.05.46 # preglow: frozen or no display update? 14.06.35 # CACHE_PRIO line works 14.07.10 Join MethoS_mobile [0] (n=clemens@pD955D936.dip.t-dialin.net) 14.07.26 # Buschel: it reacts to key presses, so no update, i guess 14.07.31 # backlight comes on when i press stuff 14.07.39 # and music plays fine 14.07.46 # preglow: ok, so this is LCD-enable for nano :) 14.07.55 # or something similar 14.08.12 # well, yes :-) 14.08.25 # any obvious candidates i can disable in en3? 14.08.31 # and btw, why do you call it CACHE_PRIORITY? 14.09.27 # this is what the register is called right now -- amiconn assumes this as DEV_EN3... 14.09.27 Quit j0tt (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 14.10.40 # preglow: all other bits in DEV_EN3 must be set for 5G, otherwise it doesn't start 14.11.20 # hmm 14.11.27 # the _INIT ones i can leave in 14.11.29 # what do they do? 14.12.12 # INIT1 is something like BUTTON_ENABLE (otherwise detection of hold doesn't work), INIT2 is the PLL-enable for the clock 14.12.26 Quit ol_schoola () 14.13.32 # hmm 14.13.38 # INIT1 messed up my lcd just like DEV2 did 14.13.43 # preglow: can you disable DEV_EN 0x80000000, 0x40000000, or 0x20 without any problems? 14.14.19 # what are the defaults for INIT1 and INIT2 (you'll need to add them to the IO-port debug screen)? 14.14.51 # i can definitely not disable 0x80000000 14.14.55 # then backlight never comes on 14.17.38 # ditto 0x40000000 14.18.15 # * Buschel just adds these results to the PP-register wiki-page 14.19.23 Quit BigBambi (Remote closed the connection) 14.19.25 # hmm 14.19.31 # when i disable 0x20 the logo shows 14.19.32 # but then it hangs 14.19.42 # backlight never turns full intensity 14.19.46 # same as 5G 14.21.50 # init1 and init2 are 0xa804000000 and 0x0 14.22.21 # in an unpatched build? 14.22.52 # yeah 14.22.58 # eh, no, not unpatched 14.23.07 # but with your default patch, no nano mods 14.23.33 # ok 14.24.14 # what exactly was the value of DEV_INIT1? there are too many "0"s... 14.24.38 # haha 14.24.41 # 0xa8040000 14.24.51 # weird 14.24.59 # when i set init2 to 0x0 explicitely, the build hangs 14.25.26 # yep, as INIT2 needs PLL at startup 14.25.50 Join ompaul [0] (n=ompaul@gnewsense/friend/ompaul) 14.26.16 # weird, DEV_EN in the debug screen does not end up as what i set it to 14.26.23 # INIT1 0x40000 is needed for buttons the other 0xa800000-bits should be disabled step by step to see what's going on and which is needed for LCD 14.26.24 # perhaps rockbox code touches it, then 14.26.44 # preglow: my patch does (freq scaling) 14.27.12 # + USB + I2S + I2C 14.27.16 # roit 14.27.30 # why is usb enabled? i thought part of the point of the patch was to disable that 14.27.47 # yep, it s enabled on demand 14.28.47 # bit 0x20000000 in init1 is needed for lcd 14.29.32 # removing bit 0x08000000 also has the same effect 14.29.42 Join spiorf [0] (n=spiorf@host143-212-dynamic.20-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) 14.30.24 # fiddling with any of those three bits has the same result, lcd stops updating 14.30.27 # otherwise responsive 14.30.45 # btw, why don't i need that DEV_RS step? 14.31.38 # you can re-add this but maybe you should change the DEV_RS2 to not reset the 0x2000? depends on your experience with such change 14.32.40 # what happens without those lines on 4g? 14.32.42 # 5g <- 14.34.01 # nothing different, just wanted to ensure the devices are resetted nicely 14.34.22 # i could not measure any difference after the runtime tests 14.34.42 # well, shit, not resetting 0x2000 in RS2 makes it boot 14.34.46 # with that in place, it does not boot 14.35.00 # what is that device? 14.35.39 # this was connected to your LCD 14.36.08 # maybe the LCD-initialization endlessly loops then -- same happens when not enabling USB for initialization 14.36.22 Quit Rob2222 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 14.36.28 Join Rob2222 [0] (n=Miranda@p54B039F2.dip.t-dialin.net) 14.36.30 # but ok, perhaps it's time for another runtime test? :-) 14.36.52 Join kugel [0] (i=kugel@unaffiliated/kugel) 14.37.15 # my gpo32 is 0x50000000 14.37.22 # perhaps i should try to flick some bits there as well 14.38.08 # 0x4000000 is used for HDD power off in 5G 14.38.20 Quit csc` (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 14.38.33 # hmm 14.38.36 # seems to be some lcd stuff here 14.38.39 # screen just blanked out 14.38.43 # went totally white 14.38.49 Quit sandsmark (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 14.38.51 Quit spiorf ("Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)") 14.38.53 # music still plays 14.39.04 Join spiorf [0] (n=spiorf@host143-212-dynamic.20-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) 14.39.24 # seems like a lot of bits are connected to display somehow (on a nano) 14.39.30 # oh, sorry about that 14.39.34 # 0x10000000 seems to be display 14.39.47 # when i disable 0x40000000, i get ata error: -11 on start 14.40.59 Quit lazka (Remote closed the connection) 14.41.01 # same as 5G. does this one power off the controller on a nano? 14.41.05 Quit MethoS_mobile (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 14.43.07 # maybe you should activate the HAVE_ATA_POWER_OFF and use the implementation for the power-off from ipod video? -> see power-ipod.c 14.43.44 # might be worth an additional runtime check... 14.44.31 # i don't think it's needed on nano, the flash chip self-sleeps after very short time 14.44.38 # but sleep != power off, i guess 14.46.44 # trying with poweroff now 14.46.53 # if that works, i'll do a new runtime test 14.47.05 # last time i got 8:40, btw, with your unmodified path, retailos gets 11:40 14.47.22 # my battery is kinda worn... 14.48.49 # ata doesn't wake up 14.49.10 # ipod nano ata is troublesome... 14.49.25 # preglow - i wonder if there were retailos updates that reduce power usage for nano - apple advertise 14hrs (or did you used to get 14hrs on retailos and now just 11:40?) 14.49.39 # preglow: is this the config for nano as you've tested it? -> http://pastebin.com/m3603ec3f 14.50.17 # stripwax: i don't know what i used to get, but it's old and used 14.50.30 # * stripwax wonders how people can rebuild and retest in under five mins 14.50.43 # must get a new PC at some point 14.50.46 # preglow - fair enough 14.51.06 # rebuild and retest is a thirty second operation 14.51.48 # arg, the automounter just shat its pants 14.52.00 # wow - really? although I guess you only need to build (and copy to the device) rockbox.ipod and none of the plugins 14.52.42 # make && cp rockbox.ipod /media/NANO/.rockbox && eject /media/NANO takes about ten seconds 14.52.53 # assuming only a couple of files get rebuilt, of course 14.52.53 Quit Arathis ("Bye, bye") 14.53.25 # yeh - I guess I'm conditioned to doing make && make zip && unzip .. 14.53.49 # Buschel: no, GPO32_VAL = 0x50000000, not _ENABLE 14.53.53 # Buschel: i don't touch enable 14.54.14 # ok 14.54.32 # Buschel: and INIT1 misses the 0x40000 you said were for clickwheel 14.54.59 # this is enabled in the clickwheel driver 14.55.00 # Buschel: apart from that, yes 14.55.04 # Buschel: ah, ok 14.55.07 # -> http://pastebin.com/m7760e53b 14.57.46 # hd power stuff works badly 14.58.20 # Buschel: that's right, yes 14.59.46 # preglow: I'll add this for the next version of the patch. And I am interested in your results :o) 14.59.56 # charging now, will do a test when i get back 14.59.59 # need to go now 15.00.02 # thanks for your help :) 15.00.12 # preglow: thanks for _your_ help! :) 15.13.04 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 15.14.50 Join hannesd [0] (n=light@p5B160E6A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 15.15.02 Nick tchan2 is now known as tchan (n=tchan@c-24-13-84-219.hsd1.il.comcast.net) 15.18.58 Nick |404| is now known as JETC- (n=jetc123@pool-72-68-62-120.nwrknj.east.verizon.net) 15.19.47 Join DerDome [0] (n=DerDome@dslb-082-083-208-053.pools.arcor-ip.net) 15.23.14 # Shouldn't util/ be included in the tarballs? 15.23.22 # utils/ 15.23.58 Join obo [0] (n=obo@rockbox/developer/obo) 15.40.33 Join jac0b [0] (n=jac0b@user-112079o.dsl.mindspring.com) 15.41.32 # on the viewports patch can you do multifonts 15.41.59 Quit spiorf (Remote closed the connection) 15.43.43 Quit DerDome ("Leaving.") 15.45.56 Join spiorf [0] (n=spiorf@host143-212-dynamic.20-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) 15.46.05 # does anyone know if you can use multiple font with viewports? 15.47.17 Quit spiorf (Remote closed the connection) 15.47.20 Quit ctaylorr (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 15.47.22 Join tvelocity [0] (n=tony@85.72.186.18) 15.49.57 # You can 15.50.18 # Although you need some modification with the viewports list 15.51.25 # so itn't default 15.51.37 # isn't* 15.51.45 # Regular viewports without viewports list is fine 15.51.56 # viewports list replaced custom list 15.52.05 # ? 15.52.11 # But that patch has a lot of compile errors 15.52.45 # http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/4733 15.52.58 # so I would have to add the viewports_list patch to add multifont functionality 15.53.01 # Here...read the the last 5-10 comment 15.53.16 # multifont-20080108a.patch 15.53.22 # Add that patch without the viewports list 15.53.34 # If you don't want to fiddle with more code 15.53.56 # Just make sure you add this viewports-wps-v1.diff 15.55.05 # so if you want viewports with multifont add the 2 above patches? 15.56.45 # Yeah 15.56.52 # Things should work properly 15.56.57 # Add viewports first I think 15.57.13 # You don't get to play with custom list tho 15.57.31 Join waldo [0] (n=waldo@ip-81-11-216-14.dsl.scarlet.be) 15.57.34 # I think I will just add the multifont patch o viewports 15.57.38 # no* 15.58.12 # Ok, as you wish. It's your build ;d 15.58.22 # But just telling you it works and stuff. 15.58.41 # Someone already updated a theme to work with viewports 15.58.47 # So I'm happy about that 15.59.05 # Now, if bmp resize patch could be sync'ed :3 16.00.18 # JETC- for albumart you mean? 16.00.34 # I didn't think bmp resize was needed any more 16.00.52 # I use the port bmp patch 16.01.27 # http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/8308 16.01.40 # Nico_P / anyone - any feedback on the sliding_puzzle patch? .. 16.01.50 # or pacbox on cop for that matter :) 16.02.08 # Well, it's nice since it's a pain to resize ;d 16.02.19 Join stewball [0] (n=WTFOMGBB@91.106.184.78) 16.02.28 # Unless bmp resize is already implemented into the svn O_o 16.02.34 # JETC- hm, I thought albumart does resize in svn now .. 16.03.01 Join Redbreva [0] (n=Miranda@host217-42-182-148.range217-42.btcentralplus.com) 16.03.11 # perhaps it doesn't. which is odd, given that bmp resizing is in svn. 16.03.43 # http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/AlbumArt#No_resizing 16.03.50 # Unless they haven't updated the wiki 16.05.07 # No, you're right, and I'm wrong: bmpresize isn't in the *core*, which albumart is. the bmp resizing in svn is in pluginlib only, so only plugins can use it right now 16.05.28 # and does it not only do factors of 2? Or is that the jpeg resizing? 16.05.43 # jac0b - does that resize within albumart? 16.05.59 # soap - that's jpeg 16.06.07 # no its bmp 16.06.08 # I hear that patch doesn't do resizing on wps 16.06.21 # nope it doesn't do resizing 16.06.25 # soap - my sliding_puzzle patch uses the bmp resizing in svn 16.06.33 # jac0b - hm, what do you use it for? 16.07.10 # doesn't the albumart display the default pic size 16.07.27 # jac0b - by 'it' I mean that imlib2 port patch you just posted the link for 16.07.54 # I thought it resizes the pic 16.08.09 # jac0b - I thought you just said it doesn't do resizing? 16.08.38 # 16.09.08 # say your pic is 300x300 would albumart display the pic on your wps as 300x300 16.09.21 # so anyway, that patch replaces the simple_resize algorithm with a smoothly interpolating one. plugins would be able to use this to resize bitmaps smoothly. and wps doesn't do resizing yet. 16.09.35 # jac0b - so when you say you "use" this patch, what do you use it for? 16.10.04 # that is what I am trying to figure out I thought it did resize the picture 16.10.15 # just not to your specs 16.10.57 # my question is does album display the actual size of the pic or does it shrink it 16.11.03 # jac0b - the patch adds a new function that lets new code resize bitmaps. nothing (afaik) is using that new function yet - not wps - not anything 16.11.21 # Nico_P: how about looking for albumart in .rockbox/albumart/ (or somewhere other fixed location)? 16.12.09 # jac0b - if you "use" this patch, albumart is going to be unaffected. so I'm interested to know what you "use" it for (when you say you are using it currently) 16.12.32 # no I guess I am not using it then 16.12.39 # oh ok 16.12.45 # also I am getting hunk errors on the multifont patch 16.14.21 # apps/gui/gwps-common.c & apps/gui/wps_parser.c 16.14.22 # Nico_P - was the plan to put the linear interpolating resize code in core? Istr that the simple_resize wasn't moved into core as it wasn't good enough 16.16.43 # visually, that is, not implementation :) 16.18.20 # I found the gwps-common.c error looking for the wps_parser error 16.18.24 # jac0b: try applying the viewports patch 16.20.18 # I will try later got to take my cat to the vet 16.20.44 Join stripwax__ [0] (n=Miranda@87-194-34-169.bethere.co.uk) 16.22.19 Join mf0102 [0] (n=michi@85.127.182.187) 16.22.25 Quit mf0102 (Remote closed the connection) 16.22.42 Join mf0102 [0] (n=michi@85.127.182.187) 16.24.15 Quit magenpie ("uh-oh...iceberg failure") 16.27.30 Join simonrvn_ [0] (i=simon@unaffiliated/simonrvn) 16.27.49 # * stripwax has a twin :) 16.31.29 Quit asn ("Lost terminal") 16.32.10 Join ol_schoola [0] (n=meatwad@c-67-167-20-91.hsd1.il.comcast.net) 16.33.54 Join simonrvn1 [0] (n=simon@209.140-ppp.3menatwork.com) 16.36.09 Join hannesd_ [0] (n=light@p5B160E6A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 16.39.07 Quit simonrvn (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 16.39.08 Nick simonrvn1 is now known as simonrvn (n=simon@209.140-ppp.3menatwork.com) 16.42.26 Quit kugel ("ChatZilla 0.9.80 [Firefox 2.0.0.11/2007112718]") 16.45.39 Quit simonrvn_ (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 16.45.58 Quit Mouser_X (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 16.46.08 Join Mouser_X [0] (n=mouser@layl001.digis.net) 16.47.22 Quit jhMikeS (Nick collision from services.) 16.47.28 Join jhMikeS [50] (n=jethead7@rockbox/developer/jhMikeS) 16.52.45 Quit hannesd (Connection timed out) 16.53.59 Join BigBambi [0] (n=alex@rockbox/staff/BigBambi) 16.57.42 Join petur [50] (n=petur@rockbox/developer/petur) 17.00.46 Join hannesd [0] (n=light@p5B160E6A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 17.04.43 Join Casainho [0] (n=chatzill@87-196-86-204.net.novis.pt) 17.04.50 # hello rockbox people :-) 17.04.56 Join magenpie [0] (n=magpie@75.141.14.210) 17.05.05 Quit hannesd_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 17.06.06 # I am here to ask if there is a possible to fetch code to ARM from USB directly - I am reading this at a datasheet of an ARM9 "If no valid ARM vector sequence is found, SAM-BA Boot is then executed. It waits for transactions either on the USB device, or on the DBGU serial port." 17.07.12 # anyone here have experience with this kind of boot load? 17.13.09 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 17.14.47 Nick qwedsa_ is now known as qwedsa (n=superman@ip51ccca31.speed.planet.nl) 17.27.43 Join lespea [0] (n=adam@c-66-41-155-15.hsd1.mn.comcast.net) 17.28.34 Join Buschel_ [0] (n=AndreeBu@p54A3ED19.dip.t-dialin.net) 17.28.34 Quit Buschel (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 17.31.35 # Buschel_, with the new patch - you looking to see if it works - or if it changes power consumption? 17.40.15 Quit Lear ("ChatZilla 0.9.80 [Firefox 3.0b3pre/2008011704]") 17.43.27 Join SiaS [0] (n=mejuzo@p57B750EF.dip.t-dialin.net) 17.43.46 Join spiorf [0] (n=spiorf@host143-212-dynamic.20-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) 17.54.22 Join crzyboyster [0] (n=6210f18f@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-5065f327dcd61bf1) 17.54.59 # I just checked out Hindi on rockbox and it's working well 17.55.14 # It does have a lot of missing strings and I'll add them 17.55.50 # crzyboyster: is the font rendering fine? Have you checked my page which hilights which ids need attention? 17.56.22 # Quick question though: I used unifont, but a lot of letters didn't turn out good (some important letters are missing) and I was wondering whether it was possible to port this font to the fnt format > http://www.sanskritweb.org/cakram/ 17.59.07 # I believe there's a utility to convert ttf into bdf (the source format Rockbox uses for fonts) 18.00.12 # Another thing, I know I left the strings I didn't translate in English, but what should I have done to them? 18.00.47 # crzyboyster: you could have deleted the entire phrase (from to ). That way, they'd be inserted the next time you ran genlang 18.00.51 Quit spiorf (Remote closed the connection) 18.00.59 # With comments telling you to translate it 18.01.23 # or I think you could have added a comment with a single #-sign. I believe genlang leaves those alone 18.01.37 # But it's no big deal, really 18.01.55 # So should I do an update with that done? I will check out other lang files and see how it's done... 18.02.25 Join spiorf [0] (n=spiorf@host143-212-dynamic.20-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) 18.03.11 Quit Redbreva ("Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org") 18.04.37 # So instead of having ""Host" let's say it should be "#" in the dest tag? 18.05.15 # no, just add an extra line somewhere saying #this phrase needs translation 18.05.29 # But you don't have to - other languages don't do that (hence the need for my page) 18.05.59 # I don't really understand, but is there any font designer/developer that would like to to convert that font? 18.06.04 Quit crzyboyster ("CGI:IRC") 18.08.33 # Odd, unifont has 95% coverage of devanagari. Wonder why they didn't spring for the last 5% 18.10.14 Nick fxb is now known as fxb__ (n=felixbru@h1252615.stratoserver.net) 18.12.01 Quit spiorf (Remote closed the connection) 18.15.00 Quit Casainho ("ChatZilla 0.9.80 [Firefox 2.0.0.6/2007100814]") 18.16.10 Join toffe82 [0] (n=chatzill@adsl-71-154-234-98.dsl.frs2ca.sbcglobal.net) 18.20.10 Join PaulPosition [0] (n=nonofyer@modemcable228.133-82-70.mc.videotron.ca) 18.22.17 Quit Thundercloud (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 18.23.10 # soap: of course both. it should be tested for side effects and for power consumption -- you'll never know what the PP makes of it ;) 18.23.33 Join spiorf [0] (n=spiorf@host143-212-dynamic.20-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) 18.25.25 # Buschel_ - Hey Andree.. While I don't understand much in the "testing minimum startup config" stuff, I do wonder whether there's still a use in trying the 'H10-test-01.patch' file you posted two days ago (the '...-02.patch' one having already been tested, I think, by Sascha) 18.25.35 Join lazka [0] (n=lazka@84.119.31.138) 18.25.51 # ...or if you progressed way beyond that anyway... 18.25.55 Join Mathiasdm2 [0] (n=Mathias@d54C597B6.access.telenet.be) 18.32.10 # Nico_P: http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/8478 -- Look for albumart in .rockbox/albumart/ 18.32.28 # rasher: nice :) 18.32.46 # I was just going to say it's a good idea in reply to your previous comment 18.33.06 # it was already on my (too lon) todo list 18.33.18 Join midgey [0] (n=tjross@wuser17-wquad.umnet.umich.edu) 18.33.48 # Yeah, I intended it to just ask you whether you still wanted to do it, but then figured I might as well give it a shot myself 18.34.11 # i just had a stupid idea: what if we added the ability to use some more generic album art, like for music genree (now that we have that directory), like one for rock, one for jaxx, and so on 18.34.43 # Or one for the artist. 18.34.53 # or one for the day of the week. 18.34.58 # like, if there is no album art for the particulr song/album, use a generic one.. 18.35.18 # I've actually had artist pics in ../cover.bmp, and it feels fairly natural when they come up 18.35.24 # nanok, you already can do this based on the hierarchy of places Rockbox looks for album art. 18.35.36 # heh, it could even be configurable with a text file 18.35.50 # eh 18.35.53 # simply place your generic cover.bmp in the parent directory of the album directory. 18.36.08 # Nico_P: that was what i was thinking, but i thought "maybe it's just me, unix sysadmin thinking" 18.36.26 # I'm thinking that a few rules in a text file are far better than having static code for just a few cases 18.36.42 Join tedrock [0] (n=tedrock@d235-159-75.home1.cgocable.net) 18.36.57 Quit tedr0ck (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 18.37.20 # is it possible to display album art as background (maybe with some tinting)? 18.37.27 # WPS conditionals for tags. So my WPS can be pink when I'm playing pop, black when I'm playing metal, and smokey gray when I'm playing jazz. 18.37.44 # (sorry for the perhaps stupid questions, i never gave album art a glance) 18.37.55 # nanok: no 18.38.09 # nanok: it's not possible with the current code, but there's nothing against it apart from the fact that a backdrop bitmap must be the size of the screen 18.38.53 # Nico_P: so you don't have to do resizing padding and such on the fly. fair enough 18.39.31 Join shirour [0] (n=srouro@77.125.109.87) 18.39.55 # hi. any m:robe devps around? 18.42.15 Quit Mathiasdm (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 18.42.41 # rasher: the patch looks good to me 18.43.18 # I'm all for it too, so as far as I'm concerned, you're free to commit :) 18.44.28 # Nico_P: Did you notice the change in fix_path_part? 18.45.15 # I'm not really sure I understand the need for the _part bit - it's not really time critical is it? 18.45.36 Join jurrie__ [0] (n=jurrie@adsl-068-209-041-021.sip.asm.bellsouth.net) 18.46.07 Quit freqmod_nx (Remote closed the connection) 18.46.12 Quit shirour (Remote closed the connection) 18.46.19 # you could even have a stay-resident plugin that changes the background in the wps (in theory) 18.46.32 # rasher: I don't understand what you mean? 18.46.39 # since plugins have access to albumart and bmp resizing.. 18.47.02 # Nico_P: Why does fix_path_part take offset and length, rather than just working through the entire string until it hits null? 18.47.05 # in response to what nanok suggested, that is.. 18.47.29 # rasher: honestly, I don't know. I didn't write that func 18.47.33 # Ah 18.47.41 # It just seems a bit overengineered 18.49.01 # I guess it's because we typically only want to fix the part of the path that was added with the title in it... but yeah I do agree 18.49.35 # It might even be just as fast (if that was the concern), since the loop becomes simpler 18.50.34 Join |AhIoRoS| [0] (n=ahioros@201.226.58.34) 18.50.43 # Where in the chain should this be checked btw? I think I put it after the checks in the current dir, but before moving to the parent 18.53.11 Quit jurrie_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 18.54.19 Join crzyboyster [0] (n=6210f18f@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-f2adc95d0ec4bc43) 18.54.21 # Excuse me while you're investigating ways to make the albumart file search more extensive, but any of you had a look at http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=14533.0 whereby some people seem to think the current file seeking *might* cause skips in audio? 18.55.50 Join DerDome [0] (n=DerDome@p5483E9D1.dip.t-dialin.net) 18.57.36 # So is it possible to port this font > http://www.sanskritweb.org/cakram/ to a bdf/fnt format? 18.58.45 # crzyboyster: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/RockboxFontConvertor 18.59.18 Quit petur ("gonne") 18.59.33 # I've used that before, but the output is usually terrible... 18.59.54 Quit DerDome (Client Quit) 19.00.00 # Then you're out of luck. 19.00.22 # How was the unifont font converted to fnt format? 19.00.41 # Unifont is a bdf file. 19.01.04 # Well, I'll just try out the converter before complaining... 19.01.37 # rasher: where you put it seems good to me 19.02.29 # Nico_P: I'll commit it and wait for complaints, then. I did some testing, but I'm having a hard time coming up with what I need to test for 19.02.54 # rasher: not much I think 19.03.29 # PaulPosition: I know about the issue... have you experienced it yourself? 19.06.25 Quit crzyboyster ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 19.09.15 # Nico_P - Sorry, nope. I thought about trying to replicate but I'd rather compile and bench Andree's tests for PP devices.. :p 19.09.27 # PaulPosition: the H10-test is finished as the "02" worked fine. the results are already contained in the v12-patch 19.11.40 # Buschel - Okay.. :p So no need to pursue that bench I'm doing then. So nothing changed between 12 and 13 except for nanos or would it be useful to test for (maybe) some unexpected f***-up ? 19.11.49 # Buschel - Oh, and thanks :) 19.12.35 # PaulPosition: yes, and if is noct f***ed-up -> run a bench. there are some more devices disabled 19.13.05 # great, going to update and compile. :) 19.13.13 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 19.14.15 # PaulPosition: but only, if you've got a nano -- for H10 nothing changed. 19.15.33 Quit lazka ("I'm off now") 19.15.40 # lol. Okay that's what I thought at first. :p 19.16.11 # so no further testing then unless I missed something. 19.18.52 Join MethoS- [0] (n=clemens@pD955EF74.dip.t-dialin.net) 19.20.56 Quit tvelocity (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 19.25.15 Join remotechief_311 [0] (n=markus@217-162-226-15.dclient.hispeed.ch) 19.30.55 Quit mf0102 ("Verlassend") 19.31.48 Join crzyboyster [0] (n=6210f18f@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-172097a34d438915) 19.32.20 Quit remotechief_311 (Remote closed the connection) 19.32.42 Join Arathis [0] (n=doerk@p508A6762.dip.t-dialin.net) 19.32.46 Join mf0102 [0] (n=michi@85.127.182.187) 19.32.46 # I just tried converting the font http://www.sanskritweb.org/cakram/ to fnt format, but it came out nonfunctional... 19.33.22 # And about all of the missing Hindi lang strings, I can't really translate those as the remaining ones don't really have any translation... 19.35.08 # The most I can do is write the strings in Hindi script, but keep the English word (like for display put in the word in devanagari script) 19.35.21 # Would this be acceptable? 19.37.45 Join Thundercloud [0] (n=thunderc@resnet20.nat.lancs.ac.uk) 19.38.37 Join peppo [0] (n=slumpmas@c-4671e155.41-4-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) 19.39.27 # is it conceptually possible to write a skin that only displays on the lower 60% of an ipod video screen? I dropped mine and broke the upper 40% of the screen. now, if I could manage this I wouldn't have to replace it :) 19.40.30 Quit crzyboyster ("CGI:IRC") 19.40.36 Quit Rick (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 19.41.10 # peppo: with a bit of magic, I think you could even make an entire build that only ever touches the lower 40% of the screen 19.41.35 Join Rick [0] (i=rick@pool-71-189-189-253.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) 19.41.57 # peppo, it would be easy for the WPS 19.42.02 # is modifying... 19.42.11 # ah, okay. a skin/wps is the most likely candidate for this? 19.42.24 # peppo, have you considered using the VoiceUI, too? 19.42.52 # krazykit, I've not toyed with that yet. I'd rather go the battery-easy route... 19.43.10 # peppo, voiceUI is really pretty easy 19.43.36 # * peppo checks out the docs for wps 19.44.21 # peppo - WPS is only while playing screen, won't help a lot with browsing menus.. :p 19.44.29 # ah, that's true 19.44.32 # agh 19.44.47 # that's why i suggested the voiceUI if you can't make the build use the lowest part of the screen 19.44.51 # That's why I suggested the customized build. 19.44.57 # sorry all =) 19.45.09 # I think jdgordon or linuxstb would know where to start 19.45.11 # I'll see if I can live with voiceui 19.45.37 # voiceui + a custom wps might be a decent solution as well 19.47.11 # yeah 19.47.18 # I'll see if I can modify one of the simple wpss 19.47.35 # heh 19.47.45 # seeing the menu entries would help also... :) 19.48.15 # peppo: then begin with the voice ui.. :-) 19.48.29 # yes, activating that is what I'm trying =) 19.49.00 # resetting your settings will do that (it's on by default) 19.49.12 # or you could edit the settings file (in .rockbox somewhere) 19.49.21 # aaah 19.49.29 # of course you need the voice file.. :-) 19.49.44 # I grabbed the 64mb one, unzipped it 19.50.10 # I'll mount and check the cfg 19.52.32 # hm, would "talk menu: on" not suffice? 19.52.38 # or is there a key to press to get it to speak? 19.53.10 # n/m I'll reset my prefs 19.53.19 # peppo: make sure there really is a english.voice file in .rockbox/langs 19.53.45 # no 19.53.48 # just a .lng 19.53.59 # I grabbed and unzipped rockbox-ipodvideo64mb.zip 19.54.17 # which doesn't contain that 19.54.18 # hm 19.54.18 # ok 19.54.43 # heh, doh 19.54.48 # I'd clicked not voice, but latest 19.55.51 Part Domonoky 19.56.28 Join Domonoky [0] (n=Domonoky@92.227.83.6) 19.56.50 # hm no worky. anyone mind listing their talk/voice related prefs? 19.57.25 # p.s. I copied ipodvideo-20080119-english.voice to .rockbox/langs/english.voice 19.57.42 # does it speak now ? 19.57.45 # nope 19.58.29 # and the language of rockbox is also english ? 19.58.50 # no, swedish 19.59.02 # that needs to match? 19.59.06 # yes.. 19.59.13 # also, after I edited config.cfg to say talk menu: on 19.59.18 # synced, unmounted 19.59.26 # and then tried and then re-mounted 19.59.37 # and now the line "talk menu: on" is gone 20.00.15 # then just reset you settings.. 20.00.38 # working! :) 20.00.42 # thnx 20.01.07 # heh 20.01.10 # it spells my artists 20.01.11 # boooh 20.01.14 # I can change this? 20.01.17 # config.cfg again! :P 20.01.20 # you can also generate a swedisch voice file (if you have a swedish tts) 20.01.45 # to speak dirs and files, you have to generate .talk files.. 20.02.07 # aight, is it in the menus? 20.02.09 # for the db, i think there is no speaking only spelling.. 20.02.19 # damn :( 20.02.24 Quit lespea (Remote closed the connection) 20.02.41 Quit Nico_P (Remote closed the connection) 20.02.58 # for speaking files and dirs, you have to enable the option for it, and have the correct .talk files for this.. 20.03.07 # ah, well, I only use db 20.03.30 # then you only have spelling, i think.. 20.03.51 # well it'll do 20.04.06 # hm, boxes is one of the more basic themes right? 20.04.19 Join DerDome [0] (n=DerDome@dslb-082-083-208-053.pools.arcor-ip.net) 20.04.27 Join Nico_P [50] (n=nicolas@rockbox/developer/NicoP) 20.04.31 # * peppo has it mounted and can't check 20.04.55 # bah I'm lazy, sory 20.04.57 # sorry 20.05.57 # no help for lazyness here :-) 20.06.06 Join csc` [0] (n=csc@archlinux/user/csc) 20.06.11 Quit davina (Remote closed the connection) 20.06.34 # gah, editing prefs is heeelll 20.10.54 # okay let's see if I can make this modified Rockboxed display ~100px further down 20.12.42 # which one is the viewports patch this viewports_list.patch or this viewports-wps-v1.diff 20.12.50 Quit spiorf (Remote closed the connection) 20.15.31 Quit idnar (Nick collision from services.) 20.15.34 Join idnar_ [0] (i=mithrand@unaffiliated/idnar) 20.18.46 # I take back what I said earlier about the multifont patch not working 20.18.49 # it works 20.18.56 # meh, I just mess things up :/ 20.23.07 Quit jurrie__ ("Leaving") 20.27.32 Nick idnar_ is now known as idnar (i=mithrand@unaffiliated/idnar) 20.27.46 # viewports_list.patch is this a patch for viewports or a list patch 20.28.35 # What does the tracker entry say? 20.29.49 # viewports 20.30.05 # is there a general way to set position for most args? 20.30.13 # I have some %ia etc that I want to lower... 20.30.21 # but they're only specified as: 20.30.23 # %al %s%ac%?ia<%ia|%d2>%ar 20.30.23 # %al %s%ac%?id<%id|%d1>%ar 20.30.23 # %al %s%ac%?it<%it|%fn>%ar 20.30.28 Join jurrie [0] (n=jurrie@adsl-068-209-041-021.sip.asm.bellsouth.net) 20.30.31 # I want to get them ~80px down 20.30.56 # Either patch a build with viewports and move the viewport, or you're stuck just adding lines. 20.31.39 Join spiorf [0] (n=spiorf@host143-212-dynamic.20-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) 20.35.04 Quit ompaul (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 20.35.20 # ah, okay, so %ia|n|n|n| is not ok syntax :) 20.35.38 # the viewports_list patch in 8385 seems very simler to 8457 patch are they the same? 20.35.54 Quit stripwax__ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 20.36.01 Quit MethoS- (Remote closed the connection) 20.37.08 Quit magenpie (Remote closed the connection) 20.40.03 # * simonrvn resists correcting the spelling.. "resist, resist" 20.41.03 Join magenpie [0] (n=magpie@75.141.14.210) 20.41.45 # thanks everyone, I know have a theme that'll display id3 info on the working portion of my screen. 20.44.53 # good luck with that 20.48.19 Join brent0n [0] (n=brent0n@71-11-209-11.dhcp.ftwo.tx.charter.com) 20.49.39 # can anyone direct me to the rockbox installer? 20.49.44 # i can't find it. :( 20.50.51 # Brent - http://download.rockbox.org/rbutil/ But the Installation page in the manual should have told you. 20.51.45 Join ompaul [0] (n=ompaul@gnewsense/friend/ompaul) 20.54.34 Quit spiorf (Remote closed the connection) 20.55.39 Join spiorf [0] (n=spiorf@host143-212-dynamic.20-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) 20.57.40 Quit SiaS ("Nettalk6 - www.ntalk.de") 20.59.03 Quit stripwax ("Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org") 21.01.06 Join mhydronic [0] (n=asdf@r74-192-223-218.bcstcmta02.clsttx.tl.dh.suddenlink.net) 21.01.41 # why does rockbox seem to lag (so much more than ipod firmware) when advancing tracks? 21.03.58 # how many tracks are you skipping at one time, mhydronic? 21.04.29 # I ask, because if I understand the question correctly, you are describing a problem I don't suffer on my iPod. 21.07.20 # even just one 21.07.36 # perhaps it is the theme i am using? 21.07.42 # what theme do you use? 21.07.52 # and how full is your ipod? 21.08.06 # How full your iPod is won't affect anything 21.08.09 # k 21.08.10 # a variety of themes. When you say "lag" - you mean it takes a long time for the current track to stop and the next track to start? 21.08.27 # yeah 21.08.41 # and especially if i try to skip a couple of tracks 21.08.44 # As long as your next track is on buffer, it should be nearly instant. Official build, current SVN revision? 21.08.58 # svn? 21.09.12 # Up to date version. 21.09.22 # do i need to set up the buffer lengths? 21.09.40 # no, but how long are the tracks in question? 21.09.44 # (roughly) 21.09.54 # * Llorean wasn't actually answered, he notes. 21.10.09 # eh.. varies.. 2 - 9min 21.10.24 # llorean: its been a couple of days but in general that hasnt fixed this problem 21.10.54 # mhydronic: And an official version? 21.12.28 # what makes it official? i download it from rockbox.org 21.12.36 # under current build 21.12.50 # That's the important bit. Not one of the unsupported builds provided by other people. 21.13.03 # so is what im downloading official? 21.13.06 # What format is your music? 21.13.09 # mp3 21.13.16 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 21.14.02 # * Llorean couldn't say then 21.14.28 # what themes do you guys use? 21.15.11 Part peppo ("part") 21.15.43 # also, does this happen to you guys: when the backlight is off and you press play to pause it, it doesnt always work. sometimes, i really have to press it repeatedly to get it to pause 21.17.08 # rasher: the missing AA log is a nice idea :) 21.17.32 # It seems like something more suitable to an external app, or a "scanning" plugin to me. 21.17.42 # Something you can run over your collection, and it says "These don't have AA". 21.17.47 # Or even in the database generation. 21.21.02 Join Isolinear-BB [0] (n=Isolinea@m510e36d0.tmodns.net) 21.21.41 # mhydronic: and you are sure to not have the option on, to only turn lcd on,on first key press ? 21.25.07 Quit midgey () 21.26.40 # maybe my hdd has some bad sectors or something 21.26.58 # how quickly are you guys able to access your ipod when you plug it in? 21.29.47 # Domonoky: First Buttonpress Enables Backlight Only is set to No 21.30.14 Quit EspeonEefi ("さよなら") 21.34.07 # Maybe its just slow UI because of too many eq-bands/crossfeed and such? (Or has that been improved on PP targets?) 21.34.42 # i dont have any of that stuff enabled 21.37.00 Quit ch4os_ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 21.38.25 Join EspeonEefi [0] (i=espeonee@CERULEANCITY.MIT.EDU) 21.40.13 # soap: you really fast! it only takes you minutes to update your builds :) 21.40.23 Quit EspeonEefi (Client Quit) 21.40.38 # when I'm home 21.40.40 Join EspeonEefi [0] (i=espeonee@CERULEANCITY.MIT.EDU) 21.41.53 # well, at work the rockbox forums are blocked by our IT. 21.42.14 # it contains the bad word "mp3" 21.45.39 # soap: i noticed you commented in phk's forum about his phkAMP theme. have you used this theme? 21.46.09 # (not sure where this is going) but yes I have. 21.46.22 # that is one of the themes i experience the lag on 21.47.05 # you keep bringing up themes as a variable in this saga. Is there a theme with which you don't experience the lag? 21.47.33 # i havent toyed with it in a while.. but the default theme may have been a little quicker 21.47.39 # i just dont really like it ;) 21.48.13 # im not complaining. i like rockbox. was just curious if it was my ipod that was causing the delay or if there was some patch or something to fix it 21.49.20 Join TMM [0] (n=hp@ip565b35da.direct-adsl.nl) 21.55.21 Quit |AhIoRoS| ("Abandonando, see you http://ahioros.vidao2.com") 21.58.12 Join davina [0] (n=davina@cpc1-sout6-0-0-cust616.sotn.cable.ntl.com) 22.00.30 Join freqmod_nx [0] (i=freqmod@dhcp208-90.ed.ntnu.no) 22.00.45 # Llorean: Probably true, it's just a lot easier to do it where it's actually missing 22.17.59 Quit ompaul (Client Quit) 22.26.55 Join jhulst [0] (n=jhulst@unaffiliated/jhulst) 22.30.00 Quit Arathis ("Bye, bye") 22.34.10 Quit lee-qid ("aufwiederbyebientotsayonara") 22.35.29 # someone with an ax to grind write for wikipedia? 22.35.33 # "Also, artists whose names begin with "The" are listed incorrectly. [10]" 22.35.50 # from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SanDisk_Sansa#e200_series 22.36.03 # the part talking about rockbox. 22.36.56 # * amiconn returns 22.36.58 # jhMikeS: around now? 22.37.37 # soap: I interpret that as a comment about the OF... 22.39.00 # the footnote links to the Rockbox wiki. 22.39.32 # hm, the [10] links to #_note-8 ... 22.40.42 # Bagder: did you see the request for commit access for updating the russian translation? 22.40.49 # nope 22.41.02 # http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/8475 22.41.48 Quit Thundercloud (Remote closed the connection) 22.48.47 Nick parafin is now known as parafin|away (i=parafin@paraf.in) 22.49.51 Join crzyboyster [0] (n=6210f18f@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-290ab8ebdbb44bab) 22.49.51 # soap: does it also say there that because of rockbox, the sansa e200 is a product that one might actually consider buying? 22.50.51 Quit crzyboyster (Client Quit) 22.51.57 Join Mathias [0] (n=Mathias@d54C597B6.access.telenet.be) 22.57.39 Quit strawsbery (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 22.57.46 Join lee-qid [0] (n=liqid@p5496692B.dip.t-dialin.net) 22.57.47 Join strawsbery [0] (n=123@pool-71-251-166-233.bflony.east.verizon.net) 23.00.31 Join ch4os_ [0] (n=ch4os@unaffiliated/ch4os/x-059673) 23.05.36 Quit jac0b ("Ex-Chat") 23.08.02 Quit Isolinear-BB (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 23.09.40 Join weezerle [0] (n=weezerle@dslb-088-075-075-036.pools.arcor-ip.net) 23.09.44 Quit Mathiasdm2 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 23.10.09 Join uwe_ [0] (n=uwe@dslb-084-056-000-067.pools.arcor-ip.net) 23.13.13 Join karashata [0] (n=Kimi@bas3-kitchener06-1096649533.dsl.bell.ca) 23.13.18 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 23.22.48 Quit uwe__ (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 23.26.50 Part midkay ("Leaving") 23.26.53 Join midkay [0] (n=midkay@rockbox/developer/midkay) 23.38.53 # amiconn: indeed 23.48.29 # jhMikeS: Regarding r16104, I would like to know how important the ata_init serialisation is on a single core target, i.e. whether it should be ported to other "ata" drivers 23.49.49 Quit davina (Remote closed the connection) 23.50.26 # Btw, thanks for the Y-only mpeg decoding :) 23.51.05 # I checked elephants dream framerate (widescreen) on H180 and mini G2. ~38fps on H180, >130fps on mini 23.51.44 # That means a ~10% speedup on H1x0; I didn't measure on mini without that improvement 23.51.53 # those function do yields and sleeps so any thread that could access the disk and not have a public queue could be in the middle of a read/write when the USB is plugged so imo it's important to prevent that so one operation happens entirely before the other 23.53.13 Join crzyboyster [0] (n=6210f18f@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-d80e058768086858) 23.53.42 # Is it possible to have both album art conditionals and viewports support in a theme? 23.53.43 # I'm hoping to improve the Cr skipping but I'm doubtful that would be very measureable but it could just be simpler 23.53.53 # I was trying and it wouldn't work... 23.54.22 # jhMikeS: Llorean talked about encoding files without Cr entirely - is this something you know anything about? 23.55.13 Quit desowin () 23.55.33 # rasher: nothing I've looked into but I'm not aware that the standard supports it 23.56.54 Join Alonea [0] (n=chatzill@69.92.201.36) 23.57.58 Quit Domonoky (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 23.58.07 # Llorean: well, so far zeroing the drive on my gigabeat has seemed to fixed any system issues. 23.58.40 Quit ch4os_ ("Lost terminal") 23.58.50 # jhMikeS: Hmm. I didn't know that the usb code calls ata_init() - but it does so only after calling ata_soft_reset(), which is mutexed itself 23.58.50 # jhMikeS: Alright