--- Log for 01.02.108 Server: calvino.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 10 days and 13 hours ago 00.00.21 Quit kugel (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00.00.26 # crazy_bus: i believe rockbox detects whether you have radio or not 00.00.53 Quit Arathis ("Bye, bye") 00.01.07 # this player does have a radio inside it 00.01.38 # and you dont get radio in rockbox? 00.01.58 Join tvelocity [0] (n=tony@79.131.86.6) 00.02.03 # I only just unbricked it. I will now install rockbox 00.05.04 # i can't find anything in the manual about the game boy games 00.05.56 Quit LambdaCalculus37 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00.06.49 # pizza: well, i sure can... 00.06.50 Join LambdaCalculus37 [0] (n=chatzill@c-24-0-218-198.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) 00.07.06 # you may also want to look up what a "viewer" is 00.07.54 # how can I install rockbox is the main folder with music on it doesn't come up? This is using kubuntu 00.07.56 Join webguest12 [0] (n=d55988b9@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-4d63643a83126933) 00.08.04 Quit webguest12 (Client Quit) 00.09.17 # can you please tell me what section of the manual is on gameboy games 00.09.23 # I changed the usb moe and it now works 00.09.54 # pizza: http://download.rockbox.org/manual/rockbox-sansae200/rockbox-buildch10.html#x13-19300010.3.4 00.12.38 # i made a "ROM" folder in my root rockbox folder and the ROM folder has the game but how do I acces the file? 00.13.05 Quit lee-qid ("aufwiederbyebientotsayonara") 00.13.37 Quit Bagder (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00.14.05 Join jurrie [0] (n=jurrie@adsl-068-209-041-021.sip.asm.bellsouth.net) 00.14.56 # pizza, seriously, read the manual. the section was even linked for you. 00.16.07 # I cant seem to put rockbox on the file. It says Could not make folder /media/Sansa e260/.rockbox. 00.16.44 # crazy_bus, just unzip the build to /media/Sansa\ e260/ 00.17.12 # er, *what* says "could not make folder..." exactly? 00.17.32 Quit ompaul (Client Quit) 00.17.37 # I unzipped it and tried to cut/paste it to the proper place (konqueror) 00.17.53 # just unzip it directly 00.17.59 # I also tried to extract it to the proper folder directly but it wouldn't let me 00.18.11 # are you sure you have write permissions? 00.19.27 # it's set to owner: can view and modify permissions 00.23.20 Quit LambdaCalculus37 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00.24.34 # looks like it's a known problem. Looks like I will have to format it 00.25.40 # huh?!? 00.26.27 # http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=480927 00.27.14 # ok. It seems unplugging it and putting it back in seemed to fix it. So I can install rockbox now 00.27.44 # i was about to say, that sounds more like "ubuntu's automounter is too stupid to mount it right" than a real issue. 00.30.48 Quit ender` (" If I had only finished this sentence,") 00.32.24 Quit pizza ("Leaving.") 00.32.45 Join rock1 [0] (n=Amit_Kha@adsl-71-142-199-72.dsl.scrm01.pacbell.net) 00.33.08 Join ManarD- [0] (i=chickhun@89.43.175.47) 00.33.27 Quit jott (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00.33.52 Quit ManarD- (Remote closed the connection) 00.34.17 # I want my database to autoupdate when I add music, I go to settings and then to the database area and I set "automatically update" but when I add new music it does not automatically update, is there a way to fix this? 00.34.38 Join linuxstb [0] (n=linuxstb@rockbox/developer/linuxstb) 00.35.01 # rock1: Are you using a recent build? 00.36.33 Join BigBambi [0] (n=alex@rockbox/staff/BigBambi) 00.36.34 # oh, when I downloaded rockbox I got a "current" build 00.36.38 # would that be why? 00.38.18 # When I had downloaded I went to "released" then current build 00.38.28 # as you should 00.39.00 # * BigBambi comes in late and misses the problem 00.39.15 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 00.39.47 # rock1: your first reply sounded as if that was a few days ago, is that true and/or have you updated since then? 00.40.07 # maybe I just misunderstood though 00.40.32 # oh I want to have rockbox automatically update the database when I add new music I went to settings and I set the "autoupdate database" to "yes" but it wont auto update 00.40.49 # pixelma: I installed rockbox last night 00.42.00 # This morning when I added some music It wasnt working so I deleted the "database" files and they refreshed when I booted and showed the music but im just wondering if theres a way where I wont have to do that 00.43.13 # rock1: Did you reboot after adding the music? 00.44.01 # yes I rebooted after adding the music and it wasnt there, since the database files were there after I had accessed the database the first time I thought deleteing them would refresh it and show the music (which it did) 00.45.28 # Actually, you sort of need to reboot twice. First when you disconnect, Rockbox will boot - it will now update the database. After it's done (disk activity icon goes away), you need to reboot again, and *now* the music should be there. 00.45.56 # oh 00.45.59 # il ltry that 00.48.59 Join spiorf [0] (n=spiorf@host35-206-dynamic.16-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) 00.49.37 # awesome! 00.49.38 # it works 00.49.40 Join roxfan [0] (n=dunno@81.49-136-217.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be) 00.49.40 # thanks :) 00.50.05 # It's not completely intuitive, but it's done to avoid a loooong holdup when booting 00.50.18 Quit Rob2222 () 00.50.19 # ah 00.50.21 Part rock1 00.51.01 Quit einhirn ("Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org") 00.57.51 Quit weezerle ("...und tschüss!") 01.00.35 # preglow: http://pastebin.ca/886867 this is the mail i got (and the one I sent) 01.01.11 Join jhulst [0] (n=jhulst@unaffiliated/jhulst) 01.01.11 Quit crazy_bus (Remote closed the connection) 01.01.47 Quit scorche|w ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)") 01.02.15 Quit spiorf (Remote closed the connection) 01.04.52 Quit BitTorment ("SEGFAULT: shit!") 01.06.19 Quit n1s () 01.06.54 Quit roxfan2 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 01.08.29 Join spiorf [0] (n=spiorf@host35-206-dynamic.16-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) 01.09.36 Join crazy_bus [0] (n=philip@CPE-124-184-87-55.nsw.bigpond.net.au) 01.09.48 # I have folders on the e200. But half of them are missing in rockbox's file view. Why is this? 01.10.30 Quit ol_schoola_ () 01.13.28 Join jac0b [0] (n=jac0b@user-11201o8.dsl.mindspring.com) 01.15.16 Join Rob2222 [0] (n=Miranda@p54B0F0D3.dip.t-dialin.net) 01.15.23 # crazy_bus: I suspect they are marked as hidden 01.16.17 # how do you unmark them? 01.16.56 # to change the playlist folder do we put the entry in the config.cfg 01.19.35 # crazy_bus: Using your computer (Explorer, Nautilus, Konqueror -- your filemanager of choice). But the OF will re-hide them when booted. 01.21.21 # can you create folders that wont become hidden? 01.21.54 # yes 01.22.10 # Give them a different name 01.22.14 Quit JdGordon|w ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") 01.24.57 Quit Daniel_S ("CGI:IRC") 01.25.08 Quit tedrock (Client Quit) 01.26.28 # is there anyway to make kubuntu mount the player properly. It sometimes allows write access and sometimes doesn't 01.30.35 # ask kubuntu 01.30.51 # that is off topic here 01.31.11 # asking their now. Sorry for any bother caused 01.31.23 # no bother, just info : 01.32.37 Join fraseyboy [0] (n=poops@202-0-58-254.cable.telstraclear.net) 01.32.54 # Hi, another question, can I make a different font in the main menu than in the rest of rockbox? 01.32.59 # I want to make the menu text bigger 01.33.49 # Not possible. 01.34.04 # at this time. 01.34.21 # well, it is possible - depending on what you are calling the main menu. 01.34.31 # i mean 01.34.44 # the bit which has files, database, now playing, settings etc 01.34.58 # so the menu and the file browser. 01.35.17 # no I mean just the main part 01.35.27 # make the text bigger in the main menu which has all the items on it 01.35.34 # then when i click say 'database' the text is a different size 01.35.47 # oh - then no you can't do that at this point in time. 01.36.09 # aah ok 01.36.11 # while I didn't let rasher just keep it simple I don't know. 01.37.49 Part toffe82_ 01.40.30 Join Daniel_S [0] (n=57b0e6e0@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-cc8a34a88775236d) 01.40.40 Quit Daniel_S (Client Quit) 01.46.38 Join SacredTerror [0] (n=Miranda@pool-71-190-214-151.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) 01.46.41 Quit BigBambi (Remote closed the connection) 02.02.40 Join perrikwp [0] (n=chatzill@74.167.148.160) 02.07.11 # to change the playlist folder do we put the entry in the config.cfg 02.08.24 # Is there a way to change the button configurations? 02.11.34 # fraseyboy: sure...but you need to compile your own version 02.12.04 # arg 02.12.11 # so there isnt a plugin or anything? 02.12.19 # no 02.12.27 # I don't understand this commit from 29 Jan 06:57 02.14.30 # used to be two configs, now there is one. 02.14.37 # files that is. 02.14.44 # what file 02.15.20 # does this change where the playlists will be saved 02.17.33 Join courtc [0] (n=court@c-24-99-230-218.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) 02.18.43 Part pixelma 02.19.10 Join fenugrec [0] (n=ABC@206.167.203.215) 02.19.35 # soap: does this change where the playlists will be saved 02.19.56 # it can. You can change the path. 02.20.15 # where do I put that parameter 02.20.18 # in your .cfg file 02.20.20 # "use "playlist catalog directory:/path/to/Playlists" in the .cfg " 02.20.38 # I did that but it doesn't work 02.20.51 # pastebin your .cfg file. 02.20.54 # atleast in the sim 02.21.09 # I'll see ya after you test on target. 02.21.19 # I put that in there but it gets overwritten 02.21.28 # and pastebin your .cfg file. 02.21.45 Quit perrikwp ("ChatZilla 0.9.80 [Firefox 3.0b3pre/2008012904]") 02.24.44 Quit waldo (Remote closed the connection) 02.26.21 # Oh also, when my Gigabeat F20 is charging in the dock, it shows a little picture of a plug on the screen... Is there a way to get rid of that and make it so its off when its charging? 02.26.53 # no, we don't have control over that part of the gigabeat yet 02.27.01 # aw 02.27.03 # it's the bootloader written by toshiba 02.27.10 # hopefully soon 02.27.15 # yeah that would be good 02.27.19 # coz i have my gigabeat in my room 02.27.21 # beside my bed 02.27.29 # in the dock 02.27.33 # so its kinda annoying when trying to sleep 02.27.52 # you could pull out the charger 02.27.59 # You can't charge in Rockbox? 02.28.13 # Dunno 02.28.20 # that's also an option (hold MENU which docking) 02.28.27 # oh where is that? 02.28.42 # linuxstb: I'm redisinging the settings menu completely. I hope not too many people will get angry with me :) 02.28.51 # soap: just tried it on the actual player 02.28.53 # The main menu was already a bit of a struggle :) 02.29.25 # I wanted to have really really big text scrolling with big icons in the main menu, like the zun 02.29.26 # zune* 02.29.31 # soap: it does the same thing as the sim I put playlist catalog directory:/path/to/Playlists in the cfg file but RB overwrites the file 02.29.32 # but that aint possibel yet... 02.29.48 # markun: What do you mean by redesigning? Just moving the options, or something more radical? 02.29.55 # what directory are you trying to save playlists in, jac0b? 02.29.59 # linuxstb: moving, but quite a lot 02.30.12 # "/Playlists" 02.30.24 # I should go to sleep, but I can't stop :) 02.30.29 # so your .cfg contains the line "playlist catalog directory:/Playlists"? 02.30.35 # markun: I'll wait until I see the new arrangement before commenting ;) 02.30.36 # yep 02.30.46 # not "/path/to"? 02.31.31 # ? 02.31.39 # how about "playlist catalog directory:/Playlists/"? 02.31.51 # hold let me check 02.31.54 # I'm using quotes to designate explicit text. 02.32.09 # you said " I put playlist catalog directory:/path/to/Playlists in the cfg file" 02.32.20 # I know that but I have to put "/path/to" 02.32.54 # that would be wrong 02.33.06 # I am trying to save to "/Playlists" 02.33.10 # and since you won't pastebin your .cfg file I have no idea if you LITERALLY used "playlist catalog directory:/path/to/Playlists" or if you groked that line ment you should use "playlist catalog directory:/Playlists" in your situation. 02.34.17 # rgrok doesn't work well over IRC 02.34.52 Join BenniBoya [0] (n=chatzill@dsl-58-6-92-228.act.westnet.com.au) 02.35.19 # http://pastebin.com/d7588d8e4 02.35.46 Join Owner_ [0] (n=chatzill@h48.125.88.75.ip.alltel.net) 02.36.07 Quit fraseyboy ("( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 4.02 :: www.XLhost.de )") 02.36.23 # I tried in the sim with "playlist catalog directory:/Playlists/" didn't work 02.37.10 # tried a space after the colon like the other lines? I honestly don't know the answer. 02.37.30 # tried that earlier before I asked here 02.37.40 # you know what - this isn't a stock build. 02.38.02 # hey I have a Sansa 260ev2 is there any way I can put Rockbox on it? The Main site said not v2 but I googled it and some forums said i could with newest version before I brick my unit I wanted to ask the experts 02.38.03 # please don't ask for support of non-SVN stock builds here - this is part of the IRC guidelines. 02.38.49 # yes it is part of the stock build 02.39.14 # Owner_: The e260v2 isnt supported. Check the front page for a list of supported units. 02.39.19 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 02.39.28 Quit soap (Remote closed the connection) 02.39.35 # darn thats what I thought 02.39.57 # is there a time when it migt become supported? 02.40.02 # this patch did the same as the commit http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/7542 02.40.31 Join soap [50] (n=soap@rockbox/staff/soap) 02.40.41 # whoa Xchat crashed Gnome. 02.41.09 # Owner_: Maybe. It's impossible to tell at this poitn. 02.41.15 # Your .cfg file itself appears to claim to have been written by a non-stock build, jac0b 02.41.25 # ok thanks 02.42.22 # I know this is off topic but is their any other MP3 player open scoure frimware sites I can check out 02.42.46 # soap: okay I will try it with no patches 02.43.28 # so why did you tell me that .cfg file was from a stock build? 02.43.41 Join A [0] (n=459de62a@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-0b51d36fe099af5b) 02.44.31 # I thought you were talking about the playlist cfg thing not the actual build 02.44.42 # ok 02.46.23 Quit crazy_bus (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 02.46.42 # but unless I'm missing something - FS 7542 is NOT how JdGordon did it at all. 02.46.43 Quit Owner_ ("ChatZilla 0.9.80 [Firefox 2.0.0.11/2007112718]") 02.48.32 # okay 02.48.55 # I am going to try it on a stock build 02.49.12 # sim and actual player 02.50.38 # hey, if I wanted to load linux from the rockbox bootloader, how would it find linux.bin 02.53.13 # probably by making a conf file 02.53.37 # BenniBoya: It looks in the root of your FAT32 partition, if that's what you're asking. 02.53.57 # as far as I know, the linux.bin is loaded into a ext2 partion 02.54.01 # hmmmm... 02.54.16 # It's wherever your bootloader loads it from... 02.54.25 # +1 02.55.03 # ok i know what im gona do 02.55.16 # question... where can i find only the boot loader with a menu to select? i know somethings because i readed but where can i found that? 02.55.55 # loader2 02.55.59 # from ipodlinux.org 02.56.23 # With a nice IRC channel of their own - #ipodlinux... 02.56.26 # and for intalling? i have already rockbox 02.56.30 # its ok 02.56.38 # theres something on the site 02.58.57 Join crazy_bus [0] (n=philip@CPE-124-184-87-55.nsw.bigpond.net.au) 02.59.44 # ipod patcher dont launch on my ubuntu... 03.00.19 # "launch"?...how are you calling it? 03.00.40 # chmod +x ipodpatcher 03.00.41 # loader2 but me, i cant run ipodpatcher 03.00.49 # kk gonna try that 03.00.54 # i had that problem yesturday 03.00.54 # and how are you runnign it? 03.01.30 # i dont even know what that command does, but it worked for me yesturday 03.01.50 # you shouldnt be running commands if you dont know what they do.. 03.02.07 # some1 here was helping em along 03.02.09 # me 03.02.18 # think it was LinusN or amicon 03.05.11 # it dont run... 03.05.25 # ipodpatcher appear to be a script or something there 03.07.36 Quit BenniBoya ("ChatZilla 0.9.80 [Firefox 3.0b2/2007121120]") 03.08.12 # is it possible for rockbox to pick up a weaker signal than the original firmware. Because there is a lot of static on my e200 compared to my c100 using its original firmware 03.08.27 Join contxt [0] (n=jac0b@user-11201o8.dsl.mindspring.com) 03.08.36 Quit A ("CGI:IRC") 03.09.20 # *static on the fm radio 03.10.16 Quit jac0b (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 03.20.48 Quit cool_walking_ (""Miranda sucks ass"") 03.22.22 Join cool_walking_ [0] (n=cool_wal@203-59-129-195.perm.iinet.net.au) 03.28.40 # anyone around that can help me with this? I am getting some linking warnings that go along the line of: 'function' referenced in section '.section1' of /filename1/ defined in discarded section '.section2.function' of /filename2/. It appears that the functions (the IRQ and FIQ handlers) are being removed from the code and unused. I have tried setting some attributes like noinline and used but that does not seem to help. Does any 03.28.45 Join FOAD_ [0] (n=dok@dinah.blub.net) 03.30.14 # kkurbjun: __attribute__((used)) may help 03.31.20 # Is there anyway to move a podcast to a different folder once it's been fully listened to. As I don't want to listen to the same one twice 03.31.40 # jhMikeS, I tried that, it didnt' seem to help unforutnately 03.31.48 # I just found something that works though 03.32.03 Join Alonea [0] (i=1000@24-116-253-214.cpe.cableone.net) 03.32.17 # if I add in irq_handler: b irq_handler to ctr0.s it doesn't give me the warnings 03.32.28 # soap: what I miss? 03.34.53 # jac0b was having issues with the playlist directory setting in his .cfg file. 03.35.01 # kkurbjun: isn't the irq_handler reference in the vector table already? 03.35.09 # I wasn't 100% sure of what the line should look like in the .cfg file. 03.35.28 # yeah, but it's in the .vectors section.. I put the b instruction in the .text section in crt0.s 03.35.34 # I don't know why that worked though 03.36.22 Join AfroPick [0] (n=rtrdgfgd@c-76-110-218-40.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) 03.36.30 # Hey everyone, I have a HUGE problem. 03.36.50 # I installed rockbox on my 30GB iPod video. 03.37.05 # And now my computer isnt recognizing the iPod as being connected. 03.37.31 # Rockbox doesn't have it's own UMS feature yet, you need to use the Apple firmware to connect to the PC. 03.37.48 # Ok, how do I use the Apple firmware? 03.37.55 # Mine just booted up into the Apple OS for some reason. 03.37.56 # hold MENU+SELECT 03.38.15 # and flick the "hold" switch on as soon as it reboots 03.38.40 # Alright. 03.38.48 # And thatll boot me into apples firmware? 03.39.11 # Yep. Reboot it again without the hold switch on, and you'll go back to Rockbox. 03.39.22 # ah i see 03.39.25 # spiffy. 03.39.36 # Thanks a bunch dude, I thought i brokeded my iPod :D 03.39.50 # Also, when i try to play DOOM, is says its missing a base WAD. 03.40.06 # You should read the manual. 03.40.38 # That would probably help. 03.40.39 # Section 9.1.5. Doom 03.40.48 # Anyways, thanks soooo much for helping me. 03.41.18 # No problem 03.41.39 # jhMikeS, would gas optimize two b instructions in a row, does it do anything like that? I think my /solution/ will add in an extra instruction everytime an IRQ/FIQ occurs 03.42.43 Quit AfroPick () 03.43.01 # why is this nescessary? 03.43.55 # it won't optimize it and why would the 2nd one be reached? 03.45.08 Quit FOAD (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 03.45.09 Nick FOAD_ is now known as FOAD (n=dok@dinah.blub.net) 03.47.02 # if I don't include the extra b in crt0.s it makes the branch point to 0x0 03.47.15 # here, let me show you exactly what I'm talking about 03.48.08 Join perrikwp [0] (n=chatzill@74.167.148.160) 03.48.35 # I think the b instructions should just go at the start of crt0.S instead of being copied. 03.48.46 # http://pastebin.ca/887065 03.49.51 # the fiq_handler and irq_handler are near the bottom after the b main 03.51.10 # that shouldn't need the .vectors section at all I'd think 03.51.48 # I need to have the vectors and init.text section seperate from .text for linking 03.51.56 # because I will be starting from flash 03.52.06 # so init.text has to be linked to 0x0 03.52.17 # This is to flash a gigabeat F? 03.52.23 # and .text has to be linked to 0x3100000 03.52.25 # yes 03.53.22 # All b instuctions are relative anyway but ldr pc, =xxxx isn't 03.53.22 Join jcollie [0] (n=jcollie@dsl-ppp239.isunet.net) 03.54.15 # yeah, that's what I gathered from messing around with it, I should have been more clear, I am actually using the ldr instructions for irq handler and fiq handler 03.54.32 # could do mov pc, #0 too :) 03.54.50 # but if I take out the b instructions in .text it assembles it as ldr pc,=0x0 03.55.30 # which I don't want, I mean, I can get by without interupts and fiq's, that's what's happening now anyway, I'm just trying to understand why the assembler is doing what it is 03.55.35 # that's awful since 0x0 can be immediate data 03.55.37 # wll, the linker 03.56.17 # yeah, if interupts were enabled, and one occured, the whole thing woud reset 03.56.29 # assuming that the memory hasn't been remapped 03.58.01 Quit fenugrec ("Leaving") 04.01.18 # I also recommend setting all bits in INTMSK since that's the only true disable and the kernel starts taking over cpsr when you start calling it 04.02.21 # jhMikeS: does your most recent commit mean the first limitation listed on PluginMpegplayer is no longer valid? 04.02.29 # jhMikeS: this is the message when I take out the b section: http://pastebin.ca/887083 04.02.55 # I can add that 04.03.11 # I think the cpu resets with all the interupts masked by default 04.04.12 # I mean, it's not a huge penalty, but it's annoying none the less 04.05.34 # it does that when I add in a ,used also 04.06.03 # midgey: If that's the samplerate one, it's invalid now 04.06.18 # jhMikeS: yep, thats the one i was talking about 04.06.24 # * jhMikeS was going to do some editing soon 04.07.08 # it's saying .text is a discarded section? 04.07.40 # no, it's saying that the function in .text is discarded, the rest of the functions are showing up in bootloader.map 04.08.20 # functions in .text that is 04.08.43 # * scorche waves at kkurbjun 04.08.59 # * kkurbjun waves back 04.09.43 Quit tvelocity ("Αποχώρησε") 04.09.47 # * scorche nudges kkurbjun into #rockbox-community 04.15.06 # is bookmarking a file the only way to know if you've finished listening to a podcast. Or can rockbox delete or move a file after you've finished listening to it 04.16.28 # crazy_bus: you'll have to delete the file manually through the file browser 04.19.02 # is there anyway for rockbox to remove it from a playlist or flag it as being listened to so you don't have to delete it after every episode 04.23.14 # Doesn't the database have a way to filter files by "not listened to yet"? 04.25.38 # there seems to be one like that. But it mixes up music, podcasts and audiobooks 04.28.47 Quit Thundercloud (Remote closed the connection) 04.34.13 Quit aneka ("KVIrc 3.2.4 Anomalies http://www.kvirc.net/") 04.39.23 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 04.40.00 Quit crazy_bus (Remote closed the connection) 04.40.29 # jhMikeS: I think the irq_handler is still being removed 04.40.41 # even with that b instruction... 04.41.04 # or Im looking at the disassembly wrong, which may also be likely 04.43.29 Join Cruleworld [0] (n=josh@71.239.117.120) 04.44.17 # I'd think you'd have an undefined reference if it were actually being removed 04.44.49 # it's pointing to b3d8, and at that address I see bx lr 04.44.53 Part Cruleworld ("Leaving") 04.45.40 # and it turns out irq_handler is not showing in th emap 04.45.49 # just that one? 04.45.54 # are all functions supposed to be showing in the .map file? 04.46.01 # nothing static will 04.46.03 # irq and fiq 04.46.25 # it must be declared public 04.46.29 # other functions that I would 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I was just playing around with rockbox on my e260 and it crashed, and now I have no idea what to do. The e260 doesn't have a hard power switch as far as I know 09.27.04 # So I'm stuck with a blank screen and no way to turn it off 09.27.49 # hmmm we need a sansa FAQ page... 09.28.04 # petur: like this? http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/SansaFAQ 09.28.16 # but I couldn't find anyhing on resetting 09.28.26 # heh, it is missing from the FAQ listing 09.28.45 # Hold the power button for more than 15 secs iirc 09.28.50 # (have no sansa myself) 09.29.30 # Oh, thanks amiconn 09.29.37 # I had tried holding it down, but not that long 09.32.02 # Well, I guess that's that. 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Why do you care so much about the bootloader? 12.01.34 # =i was just interested 12.01.39 # ok :) 12.01.53 # BenniBoya: how about "apt-get install diff" 12.01.59 # ok 12.02.33 # and "apt-get install patchutils" 12.03.09 # i tried apt-get install patch and it said up to date 12.03.14 # would that be sufficient? 12.03.39 # think so 12.04.15 # i cant get diff 12.04.27 # its going to uninstall stuff like build-esentials 12.04.33 # because of updates 12.04.40 # is there a way fo installing it manualy 12.04.57 Join Axio [0] (n=Axio@alf94-1-81-57-140-233.fbx.proxad.net) 12.05.18 # actually ill just update it all 12.12.05 Quit GodEater (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 12.14.18 Join GodEater [50] (n=bryan@rockbox/staff/GodEater) 12.14.22 Join cool_walking_ [0] (n=anthony@203.161.101.209.static.amnet.net.au) 12.26.51 Part BenniBoya 12.27.26 Join moos [0] (i=moos@m253.net81-66-158.noos.fr) 12.28.23 Join webguest24 [0] (n=cba165d1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-99a1a4f1451a13db) 12.28.58 Join Arathis [0] (n=doerk@p508A4DCC.dip.t-dialin.net) 12.30.41 Quit webguest24 (Client Quit) 12.32.38 # markun: The recommended bootloader still sets full brightness, unless I missed something 12.32.49 # The svn bootloader sets minimum brightness 12.33.58 # amiconn: ok, that explains it then 12.37.46 Join Siku [0] (i=Siku@e81-197-68-206.elisa-laajakaista.fi) 12.39.14 Quit lee-qid (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 12.44.03 Quit contxt ("Ex-Chat") 12.56.37 Join Wyatt [0] (n=Wyatt@cpe-65-24-75-114.columbus.res.rr.com) 12.56.55 # rasher: the capitalization convention differs from translation to translation, how can we expect the person that updates english.lang to correctly fix all languages? 12.57.45 # oh, right, updating the source string 13.02.17 # Just real quick, does anyone know a way to easily break an SF2 soundfont into a patchset? 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It immediately shut down rockbox without saving a bookmark and loaded the original firmware. Is this a bug or is it meant to do it? 14.18.25 # and the player is on the latest firmware available! 14.19.15 # there was an open-jukebox project in the works for it, but it seems Novell have bought that, and you require username and password to login to it! 14.20.14 # crazy_bus: this is what it should do (automatically boot into the OF for USB connection). You can prevent this by holding select while plugging 14.21.55 # drazhar_: but are the firmware update files still available? They would be very useful if anyone wanted to do a rockbox port. 14.22.14 # eh, yeah somewhere 14.22.31 # http://www.advancedmp3players.co.uk/forum/index.php?showtopic=4965 14.22.36 # pixelma: thanks. 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Visit #hydrairc on EFNet") 15.02.08 # do you have a question? 15.03.08 Part LinusN 15.03.23 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 15.03.25 Join Domonoky [0] (n=Domonoky@92.227.37.245) 15.04.26 Join BigBambi [0] (n=86ceaf37@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-06eac27da7993d82) 15.10.06 Quit DefineByte ("Bye all") 15.15.24 # no and you ? 15.29.07 Join MethoS-- [0] (n=clemens@pD955B97E.dip.t-dialin.net) 15.37.28 Join barrywardell [0] (n=barrywar@dhcp-892b9b57.ucd.ie) 15.38.44 # even though i believe this is a hardware issue, i was wondering if someone else expeirnced a similar behaviour with the h300 non LCD remote. it happened twice, that when remote was connected that after some time (maybe an hour) the volume slowly starts to increase by itself. when pressing the remote volume buttons this stopped. 15.42.43 Quit MethoS- (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 15.51.50 Nick Mouser_X3 is now known as Mouser_X (n=mouser@layl001.digis.net) 15.56.13 Join xushi [0] (n=xushi@unaffiliated/xushi) 15.58.32 Part qru 15.59.05 # hi TiMiD[FD]! 15.59.29 # still not getting bored of Japan? :) 16.00.03 # hi ! 16.00.08 # no no ! 16.00.17 # a good country :) 16.00.54 # are you bored ? 16.01.09 # nope 16.01.12 Quit Zagor ("Client exiting") 16.01.27 # when you'll get bored come here ... 16.01.38 # ok ;) 16.04.00 Join lazka [0] (n=lazka@84.119.30.73) 16.05.39 # Would be nice to see another cf based target supported... (re the xclef 500) 16.06.02 Join jgarvey [0] (n=jgarvey@cpe-024-163-032-204.nc.res.rr.com) 16.08.57 Join scorche|w [0] (n=42c007b2@rockbox/administrator/scorche) 16.09.18 Quit BigBambi ("CGI:IRC") 16.09.46 Quit MethoS-- (Remote closed the connection) 16.10.18 Join tvelocity [0] (n=tony@79.131.113.4) 16.25.34 # Llorean: around ? 16.25.58 Quit CaptainSquid ("Miranda IM!") 16.27.08 Join pondlife [50] (n=Steve@rockbox/developer/pondlife) 16.27.56 # Does anyone else have problems viewing http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/MenuLayoutDiscussion ? 16.28.12 # pondlife: nope 16.28.22 Join conando [0] (n=john@dslb-084-060-172-215.pools.arcor-ip.net) 16.28.22 # pondlife: btw - did you get around to a reinstall of vmplayer yet 16.28.22 # It seems to be truncated here 16.28.24 # ? 16.28.33 # works ... 16.28.40 # GodEater: Not yet, no 16.28.48 # pondlife: which browser? 16.28.56 # I got another VM image to try from rasher btw... 16.28.58 # IE7 16.29.11 # It displays up to Discussion, but then stops 16.29.23 # Was working fine earlier, I added comments 16.29.24 # oh well if you will use these proprietary software solutions.... 16.29.25 # :) 16.29.44 # pondlife: tried a Ctrl-F5 yet ? 16.29.49 # Yes 16.29.59 # * GodEater exhausts his IE7 knowledge 16.30.13 # The source looks ok. 16.30.45 Join aneka [0] (n=kvirc@66.251.27.9) 16.30.47 # it is truncated in IE6 too, but works in FF... 16.31.06 # Hmm, what changed? 16.31.13 # I can't get to the diff link ;) 16.32.23 # Should the tags have corresponding s? 16.32.25 # there are a few lines that read "" which seem to be th culprit, let me 16.32.37 # try something 16.33.14 Quit jurrie_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 16.33.33 Nick fxb__ is now known as fxb (n=felixbru@h1252615.stratoserver.net) 16.34.21 # is that even a valid tag? Where do they come from and is it safe to just remove them? 16.35.48 # it's not a valid html tag certainly 16.35.55 # can't speak for wiki formatting though 16.36.11 # twiki's tagging system is horridly inconsistent if you ask me 16.37.58 # pondlife: works in IE6 again for me now, I just removed them 16.38.19 # Yep, thanks 16.38.57 Join axionix [0] (n=axion@cpe-74-70-239-192.nycap.res.rr.com) 16.39.40 # the history looks weird in FF though because it doesn't display the :) 16.41.07 Quit tvelocity (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 16.47.17 Part pondlife 16.52.49 # pixelma, Llorean : http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/8543 16.54.07 # TiMiD[FD]: Nice! Looks useful! 16.54.09 Quit axionix__ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 16.54.31 # LambdaCalculus37: uh ? 16.55.28 # The patch. 16.55.35 # ah ... 16.55.41 Join stewball`ghost [0] (n=WTFOMGBB@91.106.228.53) 16.55.47 # useful is not the word I would use but ... 16.56.03 # should solve some keymaps problems in the plugins 16.58.04 # Hmm, is fast forwarding broken currently (H300)? 16.59.28 # PaulJam, i sometimes encounter the same, esp. when using large playlists and shuffling i think, and usually a start/stop solves it (h340 here) 17.00.28 # when you arrow up/down, does the graph follow? 17.00.38 # volume graph/indication 17.01.35 # yes, a few seconds after i wrote this playback crashed (was hung in a loop?) and after restarting playback fastforwarding worked again. i'll see if i can reproduce this. 17.02.15 Quit defukt (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 17.02.38 # the progressbar moved, but it jumped bac to the current position when releasing the button. fastforwarding by small amounts (30s) still worked 17.03.25 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 17.05.21 # exactly 17.05.51 # if that happens here, i just wait - it's like it's still busy, updates later and then works fine again 17.06.19 # keeping on pressing buttons only puts them in the queue and will cause more delay in my experience 17.09.15 # do you know how to reproduce this? 17.11.42 # quickly skipping a couple tunes in a rather large playlist at random sure reproduces it here 17.12.15 # the the final tune tag pops up and previous tune keeps playing 17.12.24 # ah, i have 4s xfade too 17.12.54 # hmm, for me it happened on the first track of a quite short playlist (15 tracks) 17.13.31 # also if you wait a bit till all is settled? no more disk act. etc? 17.14.59 Quit TMM ("Ex-Chat") 17.15.40 # i don't think there was disk activity 17.15.57 Join broom [0] (n=c27f0812@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-fb669abd2fb22c8e) 17.16.47 # Recently there was some talk about the problems with disk spinning, spinlock etc. Has anything been found and problem solved? 17.17.19 # broom: a problem has been identified, but not solved yet 17.17.52 # GodEater: was it the thread sceduling? 17.17.58 # no 17.19.02 # What was it? And isn't the problem identifying 80% of the solution? 17.19.23 # it's to do with the way threads lock access to resources while they're running 17.19.37 # and no, identifying this problem hasn't suggested a solution yet 17.19.46 # not a simple one anyway 17.20.01 # it's especially obvious on multi-core targets 17.20.08 # single core targets don't suffer the issue as much 17.20.25 # preglow: I meant that they should fix the "" in all .lang files, so the translators aren't bothered with update notes 17.23.36 # (otherwise genlang would notice that the source has changed, and ask the translator to update) 17.23.36 # at0m|c: do you know if there is already a flyspray task for this problem? 17.24.03 # GodEater: 'as much' or 'at all'? 17.24.12 # "as much" 17.24.46 # i.e., they suffer them, but not noticealy to the end user 17.32.22 Join karashata [0] (n=Kimi@bas3-kitchener06-1096649533.dsl.bell.ca) 17.32.59 # GodEater: ?? It hasn't anything to do with spinlocking which only comes into play if two cores actually access a kernel object which doesn't happen in playback sine only one core is being used with one codec excepted. 17.33.00 # PaulJam, no idea 17.33.42 # jhMikeS: but what about during the dircache and database updates ? 17.34.24 # I thought this is what LinusN said was causing the issues ? 17.34.52 # ok, then i'll open a new task later. i think i have found a reliable way to reproduce this (skipping back or rewinding while rebuffering). 17.34.52 # still done only on CPU and so the corelock never blocks anything. the spin locking is only for mutual exclusion of two different processors. 17.35.16 Quit petur ("*plop*") 17.35.34 # and at that it is only held for a few microseconds 17.36.03 Join MethoS- [0] (n=clemens@pD955B97E.dip.t-dialin.net) 17.36.08 # jhMikeS: I must have missed this bit of the conversation 17.36.15 # so what's causing the issue then ? :) 17.37.14 # I'm not sure since I can't see the buffering behavior in real time. Perhaps the ata driver doesn't yield enough. 17.37.23 # jhMikeS, GodEater: there might be two or even more issues - I suffer the bug sometimes and only a light form on my c200 with definitely no dircache and no database updates involved 17.37.41 Join leftright [0] (n=d9e1ea9b@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-ff240f8dd3241c43) 17.38.01 Quit broom ("CGI:IRC") 17.38.49 # would removing ID3 V1 tags completely improve gaples playback ? 17.39.12 # leftright: not really 17.39.28 Quit XavierGr () 17.39.34 # I get the occassional bump in gapless albums, wondering if that might affect it 17.39.44 # the only thing that I use and which seems to make things worse is an album art WPS (just a play, I only have like 10 cover.bmps prepared though) 17.39.45 # GodEater: Any chance of posting video of the buffering screen while skipping around in it? :) 17.40.09 # jhMikeS: I thought of that, but I don't have a decent enough camera to make it legible :( 17.40.18 # I tried it already 17.40.45 Quit leftright (Client Quit) 17.41.55 Join XavierGr [0] (n=xavier@rockbox/staff/XavierGr) 17.42.12 # I'm still not totally clear on things. Is it the PCM that tends to empty out while filling? 17.42.47 # TiMiD[FD]: thanks for looking into it. :) But I imagined it a bit differently, seems like I'm unable to explain in short and clear enough words ATM - I try to think of something and maybe comment on the flyspray task. 17.43.19 # jhMikeS: it looks to me more like that the real and usefl buffers get crazy values 17.43.41 # either -ve or hugely +ve 17.44.08 # I don't think the kernel is responsible for that. 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Visit #hydrairc on EFNet") 19.16.49 # futurist: there are 4 screws in the battery compartiment, I assume those will give access? 19.17.35 # hum they didn't look like they actually had grooves, lemme check 19.17.55 Join karashata [0] (n=Kimi@bas3-kitchener06-1096649533.dsl.bell.ca) 19.18.00 # err hey aren't screws, they need an alan key of some kind 19.18.10 # they look to be torx 19.18.16 # * karashata nods 19.18.18 # very small ones 19.18.38 # either 5 or 6, can't remember exactly off the top of my head 19.18.40 # ones by the headphoen jack as well 19.18.48 # 6 19.18.58 # where on earth would i get such a tool and hwat is it called? 19.19.39 # if you get a precision torx set it should come with bits small enough for the H10 19.19.56 # and you can get something like that from any good hardware store 19.20.19 Join Buschel [0] (n=AndreeBu@p54A3E28B.dip.t-dialin.net) 19.25.05 # futurist: generally, for irivers there is misticriver forum which has some of "how to open" etc. tutorials. E.g. there is a sticky about disassembling a 20GB H10 (with pictures - http://www.misticriver.net/forums/h-10-h-20-series/ ) 19.27.43 Quit amiconn (" boot boot boot...") 19.27.47 Join JdGordon|w [0] (i=836b004b@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-a4ecba13625907d0) 19.29.13 Join futurist2 [0] (n=phileas@CPE0013464a2581-CM00137116d20e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) 19.31.14 Join jgay [0] (n=jgay@fsf/staff/jgay) 19.31.51 # hi, I was hoping to check out the the trunk of the source repository, but I am unable to find instructions on how to do so. 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Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org") 21.49.06 Quit moos (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 21.52.42 # hmm, looks like when you stop playback and then resume, that the queued track reappears in the playlist and this causes playback to reume at the wrong track. 21.56.11 Quit LambdaCalculus37 ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 21.56.38 Join MethoS_mobile [0] (n=clemens@pD955F57F.dip.t-dialin.net) 22.00.49 Join einhirn [0] (n=Miranda@p5B03146E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 22.02.32 Part avh22 22.06.52 # PaulJam: That sounds like a flyspray thing to me 22.07.36 # yes, ill open a task later. 22.09.27 Join kugel [0] (i=kugel@unaffiliated/kugel) 22.10.59 Quit einhirn ("Miranda IM! 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What revision do you run currently? 22.52.30 # pixelma: hey, do you have access to a archos player? 22.52.32 # JdGordon|w: I messaged to your home nick, since I though you wouldn't have time for me anyway if you're at work 22.52.48 # depends... 22.53.03 # JdGordon|w: Anyway, could you please take a look at my comment in lists using viewport as soon as you have time? 22.53.15 # JdGordon: a player in general yes, not teh Player though 22.54.01 # <|NSA|> pixelma: the one from the night last time i asked, i dont have the player with me atm but it was the one about 2 weeks after the patch that did something with the radio on the sansa 22.54.28 # <|NSA|> after listening to a station for about 10-20 minutes, it starts to lose the frequency 22.54.50 # <|NSA|> if i switch to another frequency and then go back its fine 22.55.20 # maybe you should file a proper bug report, giving as many details as you can 22.55.46 # pixelma: arg.. they didnt pick their target names very well did they :p yeah, I need someone to test the viewportr list patch on the player or ill commit and blame lack of testers if it breaks anything 22.55.47 # <|NSA|> could it be that the radio tower goes from being about 1/4 a mile away to about 1.5 miles, although i doubt that would matter? 22.56.12 # kugel: your aproach to do what? 22.56.57 # JdGordon: look at the file please, it basically puts the draw of every list element in a seperate function 22.57.13 # which returns more or less helpful values 22.57.24 # ok, ill look when iget home 22.58.04 # cool 22.58.27 Join Flamer [0] (n=zonnot1@CBL217-132-114-62.bb.netvision.net.il) 22.58.31 Join linuxstb_ [0] (n=chatzill@rockbox/developer/linuxstb) 22.58.39 # * JdGordon|w wonders how hard it would be to look at the patch on my phone in the bus on the way home :p 23.00.41 # some 1 is here? 23.00.58 # no, all 1s are out, only the 0s are here! 23.00.58 Join perrikwp [0] (n=chatzill@74.167.148.160) 23.01.13 # haha funny.. 23.01.32 # there might even be a 7 here if you look carefully enough 23.01.37 # my friend told me that you will divelop ruckbox OC for cearive zen vision : w is it true? 23.01.53 # rockbux** 23.01.59 # box** 23.02.00 # wtf is ruckbox OC? 23.02.15 # i ment rockbox 23.02.19 # Flamer: no it's not true, but some early attempts have been made 23.02.23 # <|NSA|> Flamer: wiki ports page 23.02.35 # what do you mean? 23.02.45 # what does who mean? 23.02.51 # NSA 23.03.09 # <|NSA|> on the wiki there is a page detailing the ports people are trying to make i thnk 23.03.24 # there's a thread the new ports area on the forums 23.03.24 # Flamer: Check out the thread in the New Ports section of the forum 23.03.32 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 23.03.33 # ok.. 23.04.34 # i see there jest zen vision:m 23.05.07 # I thought that was just another typo... 23.05.22 # I've not seen anyone mention a vision w porting effort 23.05.37 # Flamer: please stop butchering the english language 23.05.40 # meaning that you can be first! 23.05.51 # i am starting to hate the fact that i dont have any games and cool themes on my zen vision : w 23.06.35 # my english suck what i can do about it? 23.06.50 # <|NSA|> then buy an iphone? complaining in here will not get a port done. and jdgordon wanted you to read http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/IrcGuidelines 23.07.43 # I'd rather recommend a player that already runs rockbox fine 23.08.41 # i bought it 4 months ago.. 23.08.53 # :) 23.08.54 # Knowing it didn't have games and cool themes? 23.08.57 Quit petur ("gonne") 23.09.02 # rockbox existed then too... 23.09.26 # ok, i have to go bye bye.. 23.09.40 # thank you for help. 23.10.22 Part Flamer 23.14.34 # JdGordon: any idea of the binary impact from viewport lists? 23.15.08 # nope 23.15.22 # oh, i missed you last night... good luck with ms 23.15.52 # I'm guesssing it will be green for player and red for eveything else 23.16.50 # a glimmer of hope in an ocean of red 23.17.01 # yeah 23.17.10 # worth it though imo 23.17.23 # ... not that I ever really cared about the red :p 23.17.30 # i'm waiting to hear back from ms to see if i get to go out to seattle. i'm not sure how likely that will be 23.18.04 # were you planning on taking a look at customizable a statusbar as well? 23.18.52 Quit BitTorment (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 23.19.50 Join BitTorment [0] (n=martin@87-194-94-92.bethere.co.uk) 23.19.51 Join crzyboyster [0] (n=6210f03a@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-8dd4fad688055130) 23.20.10 # Will the unifont version of cabbie also be committed? 23.21.10 # midgey: eventually... I'm not sure how best to do it... im split between going the full wps style customization or just themable icons like the menus... 23.26.25 Quit jgarvey ("Leaving") 23.27.05 # So are there plans to commit the unifont version of cabbie 2.0 or to offer it as a seperate download? 23.27.33 # i had a look at it a while back and i had the same dilemma. i felt like wps-style would be nice, but it might be overkill 23.28.10 # crzyboyster: You only need to ask once 23.28.24 # it all depends on how flexible the wps parser is... and seen as we eventually want to be able to use that for the fm and rec screens its probably worth investigating 23.28.43 # And by putting it on the wiki (or soon the new rockboxthemes site) it will be available for download 23.28.50 # I think Nico had a look but dont remember how far he got 23.29.47 # Thanks for responding, guys! Take a look at http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=10030.msg113777#new Does it look alright to you? 23.31.55 Quit perrikwp ("ChatZilla 0.9.80 [Firefox 3.0b3pre/2008012904]") 23.32.42 # crzyboyster: Looks fine from that, but I would have to try on target to comment properly - they always look different 23.34.08 # Do yuo think that I should remove the "NEXT" image and put in the "Next Track:" text to be consistent with all the other ports? 23.34.40 # I'm not sure 23.35.03 # Consistency is good, but grey scale screens often benefit from a bit of breaking up 23.35.20 # What does it look like with the text instead? 23.35.33 # Let me get a screen... 23.40.22 # Here you go: http://aycu24.webshots.com/image/43263/2004753093264395359_rs.jpg 23.41.43 # crzyboyster: That is a massive sign saying, "temporarily unavailable" 23.42.35 # Loads fine for me... I will upload someplace else... 23.43.41 # works fine here too 23.44.27 # Here we are: http://img444.imageshack.us/img444/3645/dump080201163829ru0.png 23.44.51 # that one is fine 23.45.30 # Hmmm - I like that it doesn't look like another line of info with the bar not test, but I am all for consistency 23.45.37 # I remain not sure :) 23.46.35 # I personally like it as a lot of other ports have the info aligned/put in exactly like that 23.47.10 # And with the bar, there's a lot of empty space floating around 23.48.52 # yeah 23.49.02 # As I say, I have no strong opinion either way 23.49.39 # I'll remove the bar then for the sake of consistency. Anyone have problems with this? 23.49.51 # as an aside, i feel the gigabeat version of cabbie 2 needs a bit of work 23.50.04 Quit JdGordon|w ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") 23.50.16 # midgey: Yes, I agree. Maybe I'll fix that one up next? 23.50.18 # Yeah, the font is too small :P 23.50.28 # (I know others think it is too big) 23.50.46 # Does the helvR font family get bigger than that size? 23.50.56 # But I have my amended copy and I like that :) 23.50.58 Quit moos (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 23.51.07 # crzyboyster: Don't know, I use ter16 something 23.51.40 # switching to ter-u16b makes it a bit better 23.52.02 Quit mf0102 ("Verlassend") 23.52.27 # midgey: I switched to ter-u16b, altered the album art size a bit, cut some pointless info 23.53.11 # imo, if we want to display the time, seconds are a bit superfluous 23.53.16 # midgey: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/WpsGigabeatF#Cabbie_BB is my effort 23.53.55 # and actually I agree about the seconds, just didn't bother to remove them