--- Log for 01.03.108 Server: zelazny.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: @logbot Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 16 days and 13 hours ago 00.00.03 # snowwee, at about 1:04-1:06 you see it's a video beeing played 00.00.22 # snowwee, no, i said your ipod, only the original apple firmware works. no alternate firmwares exist for that ipod. 00.00.36 # fcuk :/ 00.00.53 # in future maybe be some alternative 00.00.55 # os? 00.01.05 # unlikely 00.01.16 # they did a proper job this time, I've been told 00.01.18 # well, one cant say either way 00.01.22 # ...today 00.02.10 # lImbus: well, it hasnt really been researched in depth...who knows what someone might find if they looked into it deeper? 00.03.13 # of course 00.03.17 # could happen 00.04.09 Join argumentD [0] (n=argument@ip8061f51a.host.ucla.edu) 00.04.35 # why when i try to 00.04.38 # update ipod i have 00.04.43 # This version of the ipod software (1.1) is the current version 00.04.50 # but i think 1.1. is not newest version 00.05.07 # snowwee: this channel is about rockbox and rockbox only 00.05.19 # snowwee: ask apple, we are only interested in rockbox here.. 00.05.32 # ok.. 00.07.14 Quit Zarggg (Connection reset by peer) 00.07.38 Join Zarggg [0] (n=zarggg@216-15-73-111.c3-0.eas-ubr6.atw-eas.pa.cable.rcn.com) 00.09.24 # I reckon there are a LOT of fake "hacked" iphone videos on youtube 00.09.36 # pixelma: The playback_update_lpo_late.patch on http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/8455 fixes the double-skip. I don't know if it still fixes the problem though (not yet). 00.10.29 # lImbus: the best is mentioned on the GoldenQuotes wikie page =) 00.10.34 Quit Domonoky_ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 00.10.46 # pondlife: will try 00.11.05 # I'm about 2 tracks from a rebuffer :) 00.11.20 # hehe, funny page, thanks marianna 00.11.27 # s/marianna/marianne 00.11.41 # I need to see if auto change dir is working still too... I bet it's borked. 00.12.42 # pondlife: do I need to revert the old patch, the newer looks so short... 00.12.49 # Yes 00.12.57 # This is a patch against current SVN 00.13.17 # The old patch was two parts, I was trying them both at once. 00.13.27 # ok 00.13.38 # I've split them out now - one has no effect but does make the code simpler. 00.13.40 Quit argumentD (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 00.14.01 Quit snowwee ("« Taip" sc®ipt - Rock Edition » « http://taip.xxi.lt »") 00.17.20 Quit MethoS- (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00.17.41 Join MethoS- [0] (n=clemens@pD955CAE5.dip.t-dialin.net) 00.18.05 # pixelma: Looks good - it rebuffered ok... 00.18.28 Quit Febs (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00.25.57 # Auto-change dir seems to work still, I think I'll get committing 00.27.18 Join gevaerts [0] (n=fg@rockbox/developer/gevaerts) 00.28.14 Quit BlakeJohnson86 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00.29.08 # pondlife: what about manual track skip? (still have 2.5 tracks to go...) 00.29.17 # Seems fine to me 00.29.38 # I skipped madly forward and backward, across directories too. 00.29.51 # My main limitation is that all tracks are CBR MP3 00.30.01 Quit MethoS-- (Read error: 101 (Network is unreachable)) 00.30.02 # So other formats might reveal more 00.30.12 # mine are vbr mp3s 00.30.22 Join MethoS-- [0] (n=clemens@pD955D0F0.dip.t-dialin.net) 00.31.28 Quit stripwax ("Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org") 00.32.01 # I think I could also test with some aacs but not sure if the problem occured in that folder before (I had at least one of the others that worked correctly yesterday) 00.32.26 # I suspect it'll happen most with FLACs 00.34.12 # hmm... took my 2 wavs off last weekend (wasted quite some space if you only have about 3GB storage...) 00.34.25 # :) 00.34.36 # Hmm, the build table diffs aren't working... http://build.rockbox.org/cvsmod/chlog-20080229T183555Z.html for example... 00.35.25 # gevaerts already mentioned that earlier 00.36.10 Quit Arathis ("Bye, bye") 00.37.38 Join tessarakt2 [0] (n=jens@e180067051.adsl.alicedsl.de) 00.39.09 Join ompaul [0] (n=ompaul@gnewsense/friend/ompaul) 00.41.34 # pondlife: test was successfull :) 00.41.50 # OK, try some other skipping etc. to break it. 00.41.57 # I've committed it anyway... ;) 00.43.04 # Bagder, do you want to log in to my build server manually like you did last time to test before the first build goes red ? 00.43.28 # pondlife: yes, already saw. Manual track skipping is alright too - manual dir skip too - for auto-change directory I have to enable the setting first 00.44.48 # lImbus: you haven't checked out svn in the home dir 00.45.18 # well 00.45.22 # I did it in ~ 00.45.29 # but it created ~/trunk 00.45.34 # I did not dare to move it 00.45.41 # I'll do 00.46.19 # lImbus: and I find no ccache... 00.46.30 # ah, yes 00.46.31 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 00.46.38 # I wanted to add that yet 00.47.30 Quit MethoS- (Connection timed out) 00.47.34 # pondlife: auto-change dir when it reached the end of the playlist by playing (forwarded in the last track) worked alright but I was able to confuse it when I manually skipped forward from the beginning of the last track in the directory 00.47.54 # Hmm, I tried that 00.48.28 # I went from the last track in one dir into the first track in the next and back again, many times. 00.48.33 # Worked ok 00.48.39 # it plays but somehow this last track is now the first track in the new playlist (maybe the one that should actually play is missing) 00.49.31 # Bagder, both fixed now 00.49.50 # except that I do not find where to specify ccache in acbuild, as the wikipage says 00.49.51 # pixelma: Sorry, can you come up with a "recipe". 00.50.41 # when I skip forward (to the 2nd) and back again it still plays this track, the playlist looks alright though. I think it doesn't happen every time... 00.50.41 # hmpf 00.51.27 # e.g. Skip to the last track, then skip forward again.? 00.52.25 # There can be a few seconds delay while buffering catches up, but I can't get it out of sync. 00.53.24 Quit tessarakt (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00.53.49 # The init sequence that low_light pasted seems to be missing some bits 00.53.54 Join MethoS- [0] (n=clemens@pD955CA4B.dip.t-dialin.net) 00.53.55 # pondlife: seems I can repeat it now by quickly skipping to the last track and then one more 00.54.33 # If I do that I end up on the first track of the next dir 00.54.36 # What do you get? 00.55.02 # lImbus: the svn checkout still isn't fine, "svn up" in the home dir doesn't work 00.55.18 # strange 00.56.06 # Is that the moved checkout? 00.56.45 # pondlife: I get the last track of the previous folder showing as first track of the new playlist (e.g. next folder has 8 tracks, it'll be the first track of 8, the real one doesn't play then i.e. it'll go on correctly with track 2) 00.57.11 # On Sansa? 00.57.25 # I'm only using the sim at the moment 00.57.36 # ^this is how it shows in the WPS and what is playing, playlist looks ok - yes on my c250 00.58.29 # where does the svn-client store meta-data ? 00.58.41 # I wonder if the remaining special case for auto-change dir is actually required any more? 00.59.03 # It should be handled by the playlist code alone 01.00.09 # Could you perhaps see if the same problem happens without that patch (or last commit)? 01.00.26 # I've got to go now, but will check the logs 01.00.29 # sure 01.01.32 # lImbus: in .svn 01.01.52 # that's what I expected 01.01.58 # but there was no 01.02.11 # anyway, I think I found my initial mistake 01.02.46 # * lImbus is currently checking out with the tiny little dot as last char in the command... 01.03.17 # and now it already created a .svn 01.03.18 # fine 01.03.22 # just taking one more minute 01.03.44 # pondlife: but thanks for the nice improvement already, wouldn't have noticed the auto-change dir thing because I usually don't use this feature... :) 01.04.19 Quit tessarakt2 ("Client exiting") 01.04.33 Quit xnyhps ("Zzzzz....") 01.04.56 Join corevette [0] (n=corevett@adsl-75-18-210-31.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) 01.05.07 # Bagder: now there be light, err, build :)# 01.06.10 # yeps, things look good 01.06.26 # allright 01.06.29 # thanks for assistance 01.06.39 # I will refine the BuildServer-Page now 01.06.46 # and wait for the next commit 01.06.52 # :) 01.07.03 # Bagder: can you check what's wrong with the commit links from the build table? 01.07.16 # yeah, I fixed them already 01.07.24 # just waiting for a commit to confirm 01.07.42 # I see 01.07.59 # it was the switch to the single svnlog script that broke it 01.08.02 Quit amiconn (Nick collision from services.) 01.08.08 Join amiconn [50] (n=jens@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 01.08.47 Quit merbanan (Remote closed the connection) 01.11.44 Quit MethoS-- (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 01.11.58 Quit pondlife ("Leaving.") 01.12.24 # Bagder, wiki page updated to my content 01.14.27 Join MethoS-- [0] (n=clemens@pD955D4B7.dip.t-dialin.net) 01.15.42 # pondlife (for the logs): same thing happens without the patch, revision 16454 01.17.07 Join TMM [0] (n=hp@ip565b35da.direct-adsl.nl) 01.20.35 Join fasmaie [0] (n=yohann@c-98-216-170-85.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) 01.24.24 Join argumentD [0] (n=argument@cpe-76-173-115-95.socal.res.rr.com) 01.27.41 Part toffe82 01.27.49 Quit gevaerts ("going to sleep") 01.30.21 # [ÿmaxkelley][n=max@cpe-74-69-17-126.rochester.res.rr.c][n/a]0 01.30.21 # [ÿmchua ][n=mchua@cpe-66-108-80-238.nyc.res.rr.com ][n/a]0 01.30.28 Quit argumentD ("BitchX-1.1-final: just when you thought it couldn't get any better") 01.32.15 # allright, me also needs to go to bed 01.32.21 # CeBIT is far too close :( 01.32.40 # good night fellas, I'll monitor the build logs tomorrow 01.32.49 Quit lImbus (" zzZZzz") 01.32.55 Quit MethoS- (Read error: 101 (Network is unreachable)) 01.33.13 Quit faemir (Remote closed the connection) 01.33.52 Join MethoS- [0] (n=clemens@pD955E8A4.dip.t-dialin.net) 01.42.14 # limbus' server failed... 01.42.25 # the sdl builds 01.43.19 Quit waldo (Remote closed the connection) 01.43.20 # * Bagder removes sim builds from it for now 01.52.16 Quit MethoS-- (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 01.52.19 Join TheBashar [0] (n=User@adsl-75-31-137-24.dsl.irvnca.sbcglobal.net) 01.54.07 # My c250 is playing a large playlist in shuffle mode. It was doing fine for 20 minutes but now has started playing only the first 30s-1m of a song before skipping to the next track. Anybody ever heard of this problem before? 01.54.24 Join lImbus [0] (n=lImbus@port-83-236-56-225.dynamic.qsc.de) 01.54.39 # :( 01.54.44 # forgot aboud sdl :( 01.54.59 Quit MethoS- (Read error: 101 (Network is unreachable)) 01.55.18 # TheBashar: Are you using a current SVN build? 01.55.33 # Llorean: Yes, from yesterday. 01.55.43 # that's not current 01.55.49 # LOL 01.55.57 # When I say "Current SVN build" I mean "the build at the link titled 'Current Build'" 01.56.28 # Llorean, no it's about 14 hours old. 01.56.32 # It's not a laughing matter. 01.56.42 # There are often a wide range of changes in one day's time. Or in this case half a day. 01.56.49 # Several of them have been playback related. 01.57.10 # Llorean: Do you recommend trying the current and checking back. 01.57.17 # It's important to be reporting with a current build, because we tell you clearly in the guidelines to do so, and sometimes we'll assume you actually know to. So if you report a bug that should be fixed, we'll think the fix didn'tw ork. 01.57.36 Join webguest20 [0] (n=4a8e5fd8@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-0a0b3f1cd39b7a1e) 01.58.28 # TheBashar: I don't "recommend" it. We require you be running it, so we know it's an actual current bug. 01.59.04 # Make sure to use the "Current Build" link and not the archived Daily build, too. 01.59.27 # Llorean: I was really asking "has anybody heard of this problem" so then I could take the next step. 01.59.35 # why isnt the pong multipulse patch being commited??? 02.00.09 # TheBashar: Why not verify that the bug's still around *before* asking if people have heard of it? 02.00.33 # Often there will be several variants of a single problem, depending on playback habits. And the fix will clear up all of them, even ones we haven't heard about yet. 02.00.35 Quit DerDome ("Leaving.") 02.00.39 # webguest20: Which flyspray number? 02.00.59 # Llorean: Didn't seem like the appropriate order to me when working off a < 24 hours old build. But now I know better. 02.01.21 # The playback code has gone under significant work in just the last 4 hours. 02.02.41 # TheBashar: there's been a fix of a playback bug 1.5 hours ago... 02.02.41 Quit ompaul (Client Quit) 02.03.05 # maybe it's affected the behaviour you saw too 02.03.37 # pixelma: Yes, I saw that in svn but the description didn't sound the same. I'll give it a go once the build tree turns green. 02.04.07 # TheBashar: You're not using a sim build, those errors won't affect you 02.04.13 # Llorean, 5855 flyspray 02.04.35 # Llorean: ? 02.04.51 # pixelma: All the red in the build table only relates to sim builds. 02.05.24 # oh, the red in the build table... didn't see that 02.06.00 # 5855 02.06.07 # 5855 02.06.15 # webguest20: You said that already, stop spamming 02.06.43 # My guess is that it hasn't been committed because it's not particularly interesting to any core dev, and right now it's very hard coded. 02.06.51 # It seems like it should be optional. 02.09.50 # the sdl on my build server is fixed now, the wiki page mentions it 02.09.58 # i'll really go to bed now :/ 02.10.09 # good night² 02.10.17 Quit lImbus (" ->off") 02.10.52 Join argumentD [0] (n=argument@cpe-76-173-115-95.socal.res.rr.com) 02.11.51 Part pixelma 02.15.44 Join major_works__ [0] (n=chatzill@ool-45745dcc.dyn.optonline.net) 02.15.45 Nick major_works__ is now known as major_works (n=chatzill@ool-45745dcc.dyn.optonline.net) 02.16.40 Quit x1jmp (Remote closed the connection) 02.34.08 Quit major_works_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 02.38.00 Quit mf0102 ("Verlassend") 02.38.15 Quit n1s () 02.39.23 Quit mchua (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 02.40.49 Quit argumentD ("My damn controlling terminal disappeared!") 02.45.09 Join Strife89 [0] (n=cc74f598@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-2df9807f7bfe17de) 02.46.10 # Would someone help me figure out if I've coded a few C lines correctly? 02.46.35 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 02.46.38 # (I'll submit them if someone says yes, but not before then.) 02.47.09 Quit major_works ("ChatZilla 0.9.81 [Firefox 2.0.0.12/2008020121]") 02.47.42 # #rockbox-community 02.53.19 Join BigMac [0] (n=Me@c-67-189-253-195.hsd1.ct.comcast.net) 02.53.43 # Anyone?...... 02.54.27 # Strife89: If nobody answers, nobody answers. Just have patience, but this isn't really a generic C help channel, so i hope you're asking rockbox specific questions. 02.54.37 # Sorry. 02.54.51 # How the heck do I go over to #rockbox-community. 02.54.53 # ? 02.55.11 Mode "#rockbox +o scorche " by ChanServ (ChanServ@services.) 02.55.16 # Same way you always pick a channel in IRC... 02.55.25 Mode "#rockbox +b *!*4a8e5fd8@* " by scorche (i=Blah@rockbox/administrator/scorche) 02.55.25 Warn Banlist contains 18 bans! 02.55.31 Kick (#rockbox webguest20 :Kick!) by scorche!i=Blah@rockbox/administrator/scorche 02.55.33 # Which I know nothing of how to do. 02.55.35 # Another piece of information Google is good for. 02.55.44 Mode "#rockbox -o scorche " by ChanServ (ChanServ@services.) 02.56.19 # Fine, fine, I'll Google it..... 02.56.33 Quit Strife89 ("CGI:IRC") 02.56.43 Join Strife89 [0] (n=cc74f598@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-591ce5054c72c784) 02.59.38 Join z35 [0] (n=z@149.123.33.65.cfl.res.rr.com) 03.02.00 # Aha.... 03.03.56 # ? 03.04.33 # Oh, Llorean sent me to research my own question. 03.05.27 # Mainly because the guidelines for the channel tell you to search first... 03.06.30 # Sorry. :-[ 03.08.05 Quit ol_schoola () 03.09.10 # Rokbox question: isn't there an MIDI to WAV plugin? 03.09.59 # No. 03.10.08 # There's a MIDI playback plugin that could be modified to be one. 03.10.25 # I'm using the playback plugin now. 03.10.47 # I understand it's slow (ish) on Portal Player targets. 03.12.06 Join Nico_P [50] (n=nicolas@rockbox/developer/NicoP) 03.12.23 # I get a number of buffer misses when a lot of instruments play at once, but other than that, it runs well. 03.17.28 Quit Nico_P (Remote closed the connection) 03.48.38 Nick fxb is now known as fxb__ (n=felixbru@h1252615.stratoserver.net) 03.50.48 Quit Strife89 ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 04.06.56 Quit HellDragon () 04.07.08 Join HellDragon [0] (i=jd@unaffiliated/helldragon) 04.07.21 Quit fasmaie (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 04.09.57 Quit keanu (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 04.10.15 Join quaal [0] (n=rodney@pool-96-228-165-104.tampfl.fios.verizon.net) 04.10.35 # why is it that i have to restart my ipod like 1/3 times because the top button fails to turn it on 04.10.39 # have an ipod video 04.11.56 Quit XavierGr ("rb->sleep(HZ*36*(10^3));") 04.14.44 # I've always used the middle button (Select) 04.15.16 # I was not aware the middle button would cause the iPod to boot. 04.15.51 # i said the top button 04.15.54 # menu i think 04.16.16 # yea, s/middle/Menu/ the second time I said it. 04.18.33 # and these microscopic fonts are ridiculous 04.18.42 # who would use this 04.19.21 # There's a wide selection of available fonts. 04.19.30 # did you install the font pack as mentioned in the install instructions? 04.20.02 # pretty sure 04.20.06 # i have a whole list of them 04.20.23 # i like snap but wish i could make it a larger size 04.20.28 # did your iPod video default to a microscopic font? 04.20.49 # yep 04.20.53 # rockbox default is pretty micro 04.21.20 # only ones that are really useable, like when driving a car is profont 22+ 04.21.30 # so the fact a microscopic font is provided as an option is a problem? 04.21.36 # quaal: When did you first install Rockbox? 04.21.46 # Llorean, couple months ago maybe 04.21.57 # Ah, you're not talkign about the current default then 04.22.00 # that font is no longer the default. 04.22.23 # oh. 04.22.28 # didnt know it updated that often 04.22.32 # guess i'll try to upgrade 04.22.45 # Rockbox is updated several times a day, usually 04.22.51 # orly 04.23.02 Join XavierGr [0] (n=xavier@rockbox/staff/XavierGr) 04.23.04 # it doesn't. But a couple of months is a very long time - especially in iPod land lately. 04.23.16 # well 04.23.25 # all i know is this is my first and last apple product 04.23.27 # By "it" I think soap means "the theme or appearance" 04.23.34 # you will get 50% better battery life, likely. 04.24.03 # really? 04.24.05 # thats good to hear 04.24.23 # you're waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay behind. 04.24.45 # yea looks like select turns it on also 04.25.09 # i have rockbox version r15981-071230 04.25.52 # looks like r16460 is the latest 04.29.12 Join perrikwp [0] (i=4aa794a0@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-ff985e0dc4a7da4d) 04.30.39 Quit quaal (Remote closed the connection) 04.41.40 Join Davide-NYC [0] (n=chatzill@user-0cceqdv.cable.mindspring.com) 04.46.39 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 04.49.54 Quit sneakums ("Reconnecting") 04.49.58 Join sneakums [0] (i=sneakums@jenny.ondioline.org) 04.52.14 Join jcollie [0] (n=jcollie@dsl-ppp239.isunet.net) 05.00.20 DEBUG Received signal 15 (SIGTERM), terminating 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But they differ on word 63: 0007 <-> 0407: my drive here now says it is in multiword dma mode 2. Could it be setting pio mode fails? 11.02.42 # Don't know if the original dump came from you or was made when booting with the released bootloader (now booting using the svn one) 11.06.01 # I don't think that matters 11.08.37 # svn bootloader no longer boots my h380, but adding loads of printf inbetween suddenly makes it boot 11.08.43 # some timing issue 11.09.38 Join ender` [0] (i=krneki@84-255-206-8.static.t-2.net) 11.09.50 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 11.11.11 Join JdGordon [0] (n=jonno@rockbox/developer/JdGordon) 11.11.59 # Regarding your identify dump collection - the dumps weren't really meant for that. You need to clearly mark whether the dump is from a big endian or a little endia target 11.14.33 # On a related matter - 32GB CF cards are available for just ~130 EUR, so I might end up ordering one 11.17.04 Join wisp_sh [0] (n=wisp@node-29-1.adsl.tula.net) 11.18.27 # amiconn: beware of the speed... those cheap cards are slooooow 11.18.40 Join lee-qid [0] (n=liqid@p54964AAA.dip.t-dialin.net) 11.19.33 # btw, the identify info is already endianness-corrected, so I do not understand your previous remark 11.21.53 # Transcend 133x 11.22.08 # hmmm should be fine then 11.22.50 # The identify info is read into ram in host-endian order 11.22.59 # identifiy_info is an array of short 11.23.37 # right 11.23.53 # My quick hack just dumps that to a file, so on little endian targets, the bytes are pairwise swapped 11.24.32 # ok, I'll fix the dump code 11.24.57 # Big endian targets need no action, i.e. no extra code 11.25.10 # I have an idea how this could be done without too much ifdefing 11.25.26 # well then you fix it ;) 11.28.02 Join Domonoky [0] (n=Domonoky@f051110157.adsl.alicedsl.de) 11.28.20 Join TheBashar [0] (n=User@adsl-75-31-137-24.dsl.irvnca.sbcglobal.net) 11.30.22 # My c200 is repeatedly experiencing FS#8455. Any devs online that could suggest helpful debugging steps? 11.30.58 # Forgot to mention I'm running current build. 11.45.51 # petur: Actually it's really simple; I can just use ecwrite() (originally added by Slasheri for the database) 11.46.34 # Already tested it; works fine 11.47.18 # nice 11.47.37 # committed 11.47.54 # I probably have some RB time this afternoon to look at my h380 boot problem 11.50.22 # Shall I put identify dumps of all my ata based devices in the wiki? (they're all hdd though) 11.50.54 # yes, would be nice 11.51.27 # right now it looks like the patch should work fine, must just be sure we don't disable powermanagement on hdd devices 11.52.32 # I wonder why (1) the CF cards violate the specs, claiming to support powermanagement and when trying to set it, return with an error and (2) why it doesn't recover from that error 11.53.37 # There is at least one report from a user who put a CF card into a mini and got ata error -80, but he says both OF and ipodlinux work fine 11.54.37 # Ipodlinux doesn't seem to care much about power consumption, so I think they just don't touch the powermanagement setting, but I would expect the OF to use it when available 11.55.01 # * n1s throws an empty bottle at the playlist code 11.55.37 # Well, unless the iPod Mini OF doesn't do it, because the microdrive probably behaves similar to real CF 11.55.58 # Would be interesting to see whether the OF of a fullsize iPod can handle CF 11.56.09 # This disk spinning on trackchange only happens when playing playlists, not dirs... 11.56.42 # amiconn: why do you say it doesn't recover from the error? Rockbos doesn't, but if I only log errors it works fine. It doesn't recover from the soft reset though... 11.57.29 # Even less understandable... Iiuc, soft reset is a mandatory feature 11.58.02 Join Mathiasdm [0] (n=Mathias@d54C597B6.access.telenet.be) 11.58.16 # n1s: Hmm, that would explain why I never saw that effect. But I don't think the playlist code is the culprit, as *iirc* it doesn't do that either on hwcodec 11.59.15 # there are two resets, we use the soft one, the other one is of course similar to hard reset and requires reconfiguration 11.59.19 # I think it's a quite new bug or would like to think so, running the sim it opens the next file in the playlist on trackchange even if it is in the buffer... 11.59.49 # Then it's most probably a buffering bug 12.00.46 # petur: Did you try the latter? 12.01.01 # no 12.01.17 # the nano suffers the same 12.01.28 # Maybe the "soft-soft" reset on the problematic CF cards actually behaves like the one that does require reconfiguration 12.01.35 # I know 12.01.50 # to be tested... 12.02.38 # The nano essentially *is* a CF based target. Just without the standard package around the flash chips 12.03.15 # So if we find a proper fix, the nano hack can go away too 12.09.02 Join khali [0] (n=syndre@c-68-43-117-81.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) 12.11.18 # * n1s files an FS task 12.14.36 # the nano also identifies as 044A so my patch in the tracker should already work for it 12.18.57 # I've moved the real HDDs to the end of the table, and added the ST660211FX so far 12.19.27 # How does that patch distinguish CF and HDD? 12.22.24 # right now it treats 044A as CF (no power management and no soft-reset) 12.23.17 # might have to add 848A 12.23.21 # My MK8007 dump differs for identify_info[83] ... 12.24.18 Nick fxb__ is now known as fxb (n=felixbru@h1252615.stratoserver.net) 12.24.33 # it does? 12.24.47 # 7D09 instead of 7F09 12.24.57 # That's a reserved bit... 12.25.19 Quit XavierGr (Nick collision from services.) 12.25.30 Join XavierGr [0] (n=xavier@rockbox/staff/XavierGr) 12.25.41 # different firmware versions maybe? 12.25.59 # possibly 12.26.46 # mine says BG001D 12.27.20 # Adding 848A would be bad. The Mini's microdrive also has that 12.27.32 # I know 12.28.13 # so far, all 848A CF cards have 0 in words 82/83, just don't know about the softreset on those cards 12.28.53 # hmmm except my sandisk 1GB 12.31.20 # * petur walks away for a while - back in an hour 12.32.29 Join Buschel [0] (n=AndreeBu@p54A3DBAB.dip.t-dialin.net) 12.36.15 Join moos [0] (i=moos@m170.net81-66-158.noos.fr) 12.47.02 # Would it make sense to start a SansaAccessories page? There aren't a lot around, but I figure we might as well document what works and what don't anyway 12.48.16 Join fehmicans [0] (n=canavar@88.253.9.76) 12.51.16 Quit desowin (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 13.02.44 Join Davide-NYC [0] (n=chatzill@user-0cceqdv.cable.mindspring.com) 13.02.47 Join nick89 [0] (n=nick89@58.174.38.229) 13.03.09 # petur: ping 13.03.27 # Davide-NYC: * petur walks away for a while - back in an hour 13.03.31 # That was 30 minutes ago. 13.03.40 # rasher: thanks 13.06.03 Join Nico_P [50] (n=nicolas@rockbox/developer/NicoP) 13.06.15 Join waldo [0] (n=waldo@ip-81-11-224-110.dsl.scarlet.be) 13.06.33 Join MethoS- [0] (n=clemens@pD955CB6E.dip.t-dialin.net) 13.08.57 Join kushal_12_27_200 [0] (n=kushal@12.169.180.134) 13.09.54 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 13.15.28 Join desowin [0] (n=desowin@atheme/developer/desowin) 13.19.32 Quit MethoS- (Remote closed the connection) 13.22.49 Quit nick89 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 13.26.00 Join Arathis [0] (n=doerk@p508A68D4.dip.t-dialin.net) 13.31.43 # Davide-NYC: pong 13.33.00 # petur: I've added my collection now. I also sorted the table as follows: First all CF cards, alphabetically, then all HDDs, alphabetically, with a slight exception for Toshiba: those are sorted by generation (last digit) first 13.33.02 # * petur sees his time guessing was accurate.. exactly on hour 13.33.30 # wow, nice table... thanks 13.34.11 # Identify words 7 and 8 might be interesting. They are labels as "reserved for assignment by the CF association" in the ata specs 13.34.39 # All true haddisks show 0000 0000 there. The Mini's microdrive, however, does not 13.35.22 Quit jurrie_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 13.35.36 # my a-data also shows different values 13.36.32 # Of course, that's a CF card... 13.36.43 # But the ST660211FX also has non-zero values there 13.36.54 # microdrive 13.37.04 # CF interface, HDD inside 13.37.23 # maybe it does its own powermanagement? 13.38.00 # Not even CF interface. F-FLEX. 13.38.02 # regarding soft reset: the CF spec says no soft reset after sleep is required, the first command wakes it up 13.38.13 # Yes, and the ata specs demand it 13.38.50 # oh I can test that on my H10 :) 13.41.04 # * petur builds for H10 without soft reset 13.42.30 Join ompaul [0] (n=ompaul@gnewsense/friend/ompaul) 13.44.12 Join desowin_ [0] (n=desowin@atheme/developer/desowin) 13.44.37 Quit desowin (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 13.44.52 # * Davide-NYC back from breakfast 13.45.25 # you need me to do any testing with my CF cards? I saw something about endian-ness... 13.46.05 Part TheBashar 13.47.49 # amiconn: my H10 seems to work fine without the soft reset 13.47.50 Join roolku [0] (n=roolku@77-99-112-231.cable.ubr16.edin.blueyonder.co.uk) 13.49.00 Join tvelocity_ [0] (n=tony@79.131.106.102) 13.49.08 # bah, the H10 is not usable without dircache... bloody slow disk 13.50.06 # #elif (LCD_WIDTH == 128) && (LCD_HEIGHT == 64) 13.50.07 # rockblox_background.128x64x1.bmp 13.50.15 # oops :) 13.57.21 # n1s: hey, I had a suspicion it was dircahce causing extra disk accesses... nice to see thats definatly a cause 13.58.14 # JdGordon: it only happens when dircache is disabled 13.58.55 # n1s: thanks for the bug report 13.59.18 # np 13.59.27 # I'm guessing its because of the dircache thread in playlist.c.. i havnt had time to investigate it though 13.59.27 # thanks for all the fixin' 14.00.06 # Nico_P: queueing up a song during the last few seconds of playback seems to confuse things 14.00.37 # I guess the workaround is to stop doing anything when less than 10 seconds remain 14.02.11 Join jurrie [0] (n=jurrie@adsl-068-209-041-021.sip.asm.bellsouth.net) 14.02.24 # maybe a related thing http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=15722.msg117349#msg117349 (I can confirm this) 14.02.37 Quit gibbon_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 14.03.42 # rasher: thats a pretty nasty work around 14.03.59 Join Febs [0] (n=chatzill@207-172-204-33.c3-0.rdl-ubr4.trpr-rdl.pa.cable.rcn.com) 14.04.00 Quit tvelocity (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 14.04.12 Join jhulst [0] (n=jhulst@unaffiliated/jhulst) 14.04.17 # JdGordon: I wasn't being terribly serious 14.06.17 Quit desowin_ (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 14.08.12 # meh 14.09.07 # petur: CF does not require a reset for wakeup, but it doesn't prohibit it either. So what the heck is wrong with that?? 14.09.20 # you tell me 14.10.54 Join gevaerts [0] (n=fg@rockbox/developer/gevaerts) 14.10.57 Join desowin [0] (n=desowin@atheme/developer/desowin) 14.12.47 # petur: Hmm, it would be helpful if you (or anyone with a CF card) could extend the table by 2 columns (only applying to CF cards): whether the card fails on soft reset, and whether it fails on setting power management 14.13.13 # I have a suspicion what might be going on... 14.15.27 Join H8ff0000 [0] (n=chatzill@ool-18b9da53.dyn.optonline.net) 14.15.51 # Hi. 14.16.47 # I was hoping someone could help me with something. 14.18.13 # next door on the left... 14.18.25 # I have an Ipod Video 30GB, used Rockbox Utility, complete installation went smooth. Went to install a theme by unzipping the theme directly to the root of the Ipod. 14.18.50 # And it isn't in the Theme List. I'm assuming I did this wrong. 14.19.45 Nick JdGordon is now known as JdGordon|zzz (n=jonno@rockbox/developer/JdGordon) 14.20.51 # H8ff0000: did you keep the dir structure from the zip so everything went inside the .rockbox dir? 14.21.35 Join faemir [0] (n=daniel@85-211-221-203.dyn.gotadsl.co.uk) 14.22.04 # Would people say it's better to update daily or not? 14.22.21 # I unzipped it directly to the root of the Ipod. In the root of the Ipod I see a folder for the theme. 14.23.24 # Inside of the glassONgustav folder is a .rockbox folder 14.23.26 # H8ff0000: then it didnt work correctly, the theme zip should have a .rockbox folder with the theme inside.. 14.23.30 # H8ff0000: that's wrong, you should use some "unzip to..." feature and point it to the root of the player , no drag and drop etc 14.24.14 # I didn't drag. 14.24.38 # But I think I see whats wrong now. 14.25.31 # just add the .rockbox folder to the root of the Ipod, correct? 14.26.39 # petur: Word 7 and 8 are the sector count for CF. The ata specs say that a device that either has word 0 set to 0x848a (CF signature), or has word 83 bit 2 set to 1 implements the CFA feature set 14.27.54 # H8ff0000: you should already have a .rockbox directory there, possibly hidden 14.27.59 # Now, if the 2 "industrial" cards in the list (which specify neither) do *not* fail at reset and power management, I think we have a solution 14.28.03 # I do 14.28.38 # amiconn: those cards are at work :( 14.28.53 # when i unzipped the theme zip to the root of my player, it gave me a folder called gustavONglass. inside of that folder is another folder, .rockbox 14.28.54 # (in fact, they are from a customer) 14.28.55 # That is, if this way of detection don't cause increased power consumption on Mini and H10 small (with disk poweroff *disabled* for testing) 14.29.19 # s/don't/doesn't/ 14.29.29 # H8ff0000: the just move the .rockbox dir one up, or rextract it with a sane zip util :-) 14.30.16 Quit desowin (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 14.30.19 # * gevaerts wonders why so many unzippers are insane. Remember forgetting to tell pkunzip to handle directories ? 14.30.43 # amiconn: I already changed my code to check words 7 and 8... :) 14.31.10 # Why not just dump the info? 14.31.20 # eh? 14.32.18 # Thanks a bunch 14.32.47 # I thought you mean for testing cards at work (iirc you said yesterday that you display the values in the bootloader) 14.33.34 # And those 'simple tech', 'memory corp' and 'toshiba industrial' cards have no associated dumpfile 14.33.50 Part H8ff0000 14.34.04 # because I need to reformat them to FAT32 and copy rb on them. At work they are fat16 and work related stuff on them 14.34.25 # Then compile rockbox and the bootloader with fat16 support... 14.34.25 # maybe I should do the dump... 14.34.54 # where is FAT16 enabled? 14.35.12 # #define HAVE_FAT16SUPPORT 14.35.19 # in the target config file 14.35.43 # gotcha 14.35.51 # In SVN it's defined for Ondios and Sansas 14.38.34 Join desowin [0] (n=desowin@atheme/developer/desowin) 14.39.02 Quit jurrie (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 14.39.54 # it's a real pita that the OF doesn't like the CF card :( 14.40.04 # * petur gets his spare hdd 14.40.53 # So the iriver OF seems to have the same problem as rockbox... 14.41.14 # it says CHECK HDD 14.41.36 # and once booted, if you browse is shows some garbage 14.46.51 # ok, new bl flashed, I'll get a dump of those cards on monday 14.51.31 # * gevaerts checks ebay to get some more devices for testing. Why do people pay such insane prices ? 14.52.59 # hmmm current svn bootloader hangs on bootloader usb on my h380 :/ 14.54.19 Join Horschti [0] (n=Horscht@p4FD4CDA9.dip.t-dialin.net) 14.55.03 Quit Horscht (Nick collision from services.) 14.56.56 # petur: shoot me an email of you need me to do anything with CF cards, etc. 14.57.08 # good luck! 14.57.10 # it's ok 14.57.10 Nick fxb is now known as fxb__ (n=felixbru@h1252615.stratoserver.net) 14.57.25 Quit Davide-NYC ("ChatZilla 0.9.81 [Firefox 2.0.0.12/2008020121]") 15.04.26 Quit desowin (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 15.05.18 Join bluebrother [0] (n=dom@rockbox/staff/bluebrother) 15.06.28 Quit Domonoky (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 15.07.33 # bluebrother: we have vid/pids for e200v2 15.08.27 # rasher: noticed it. Will check how to integrate that best. 15.09.22 # as we can identify all players by vid / pid we could add a notification upon startup if an unsupported player is found 15.09.41 # or no supported player. As we don't need to identify the player exactly at that stage 15.09.55 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 15.11.40 Join fasmaie [0] (n=yohann@c-98-216-170-85.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) 15.11.55 Join blithe [0] (n=blithe@stiletto.djblithe.com) 15.11.55 Part fasmaie 15.12.33 # hmmm I get I04:IllInstr at 003F3002 in the bootloader from time to time. the map file says this is near remove_from_list_tmo (threading code) 15.16.36 # errr make that add_to_list_tmo 15.18.54 # 'near' doesn't tell much, as the map file doesn't show static functions, and also the entries aren't in order 15.19.20 Join BigMac [0] (n=Me@c-67-189-253-195.hsd1.ct.comcast.net) 15.19.41 # * gevaerts prefers objdump --syms|sort 15.21.38 # If you found the module where the crash happens: (1) calculate offset_in_module = crash_address - module_start_address. (2) do [arch]-elf-objdump -d [module].o >[module]_dis.S (3) Open the disassembly in an editor, and go to offset_in_module 15.22.17 # Then you know the exact function, and if you try to follow the instruction flow, even the line of C code within that function 15.22.39 # testing a new build so it needs to crash again 15.22.44 # Just take care that gcc does some instruction reordering at higher -O levels 15.23.44 # If I add a printf() at the start of init_and_check() then my bootloader doesn't hang... 15.23.47 Join sarixe [0] (n=sarixe@68.239.138.73) 15.24.50 Join Honkboy [0] (n=stefan@dslb-084-056-111-058.pools.arcor-ip.net) 15.25.27 Join tvelocity__ [0] (n=tony@athedsl-112221.home.otenet.gr) 15.27.25 # * petur wonders why his h380 needs some delay before performing ata hard reset 15.28.36 # argh.. still hangs 15.29.09 # Hmm, 003F3002 is at the end of ROM. I wonder why the bootloader is jumping there... 15.29.24 # It's nowhere within the bootloader 15.29.52 # it is a modified bootloader, not complete svn! 15.31.06 # still 15.31.54 # The bootloader is running from iram afaik, i.e. addresses are in the 0x400xxxxx range 15.32.50 # is the code copied to iram? I thought it just ran out of flash 15.33.52 # Hmm, I thought it is copied... I might be wrong though 15.34.25 # brb 15.37.21 # * amiconn gone 15.37.29 Quit sarixe ("(EE) Failed to load "quit" module") 15.38.40 Part Honkboy ("Leaving.") 15.40.46 # I've been thinking about the problem where rockbox goes into USB mode when plugged in to a wall charger. I think the correct solution is to stay in "normal" mode (i.e. UI functional and disk usable) until the OS does SCSI commands. At that point, rockbox switches to USB mode. Until is done, TEST_UNIT_READY returns FAIL. This behaviour is similar to that of a disk that can't do anything until it has finished spinning up, so OSes should handle it c 15.40.54 # ...cleanly. 15.41.25 Quit tvelocity_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 15.42.06 Quit tvelocity__ (Connection timed out) 15.44.12 # A similar approach would be to use ALLOW_PREVENT_MEDIUM_REMOVAL for this, but I think it's harder to get right, and it forces us to present removable devices. OTOH this approach would make it possible to go back to "normal" mode without unplugging, or even (with (maybe lots) more work) to handle different disks separately (i.e. allow to play music from internal storage while the OS is using the sd card) 15.44.46 Quit BigMac (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 15.45.28 Join Lear [0] (i=chatzill@rockbox/developer/lear) 15.48.00 # We can use ALLOW_PREVENT_MEDIUM_REMOVAL anyway to indicate to the user if it's safe to unplug. This would obviously require some UI work 15.49.39 Quit jcollie (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 15.56.38 Quit fehmicans (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 15.58.47 # * Bagder adds sdl builds on limbus' server again 16.01.02 Join mf0102 [0] (n=michi@85.127.180.200) 16.02.43 Join sarixe [0] (n=sarixe@pool-68-239-138-73.nwrk.east.verizon.net) 16.02.56 Quit sarixe (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 16.13.24 Join Llorea1 [0] (n=DarkkOne@adsl-64-149-229-195.dsl.hstntx.sbcglobal.net) 16.14.35 Quit kushal_12_27_200 ("This computer has gone to sleep") 16.15.41 Join toffe82 [0] (n=chatzill@ppp-69-238-94-48.dsl.frs2ca.pacbell.net) 16.17.11 Quit bluebrother (Remote closed the connection) 16.17.14 Join bluebrother [0] (n=dom@rz-du-phx-130-88.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de) 16.19.34 # Some people don't understand rockbox licensing very well : http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=15724.0 16.21.52 Join BigMac [0] (n=Me@c-67-189-253-195.hsd1.ct.comcast.net) 16.24.14 # well, where can I buy it then? 16.24.16 # ;) 16.25.17 # * gevaerts sells a license for the full version to Horschti for loads of money 16.25.58 # i want it, too, i want it too! :) 16.26.20 # * gevaerts smells business 16.26.38 # yay, business 16.27.08 Quit japc (SendQ exceeded) 16.29.04 # It does feel a bit weird to have this developer badge right above my post count of 3 16.29.15 # heh 16.31.14 Quit Llorean (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 16.32.16 Join japc [0] (n=japc@bl8-2-148.dsl.telepac.pt) 16.34.34 Nick Horschti is now known as Horscht (n=Horscht@xbmc/user/horscht) 16.36.00 Join RoC_MasterMind [0] (n=Free@c-71-203-172-58.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) 16.38.22 Quit jhulst ("Konversation terminated!") 16.41.03 Quit bluebrother (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 16.45.55 Quit khali () 16.52.50 # I sent a polite reply to the reporter of BigBambi. 16.53.12 # As I removed his post? 16.53.26 # soap: Who was it from? 16.54.24 # I've just got a couple of entirely random PMs from him too 16.54.44 # Ah no, different person 16.55.35 # heh, actually same person hates me for two different things now :) 16.58.17 # * gevaerts admires people who can handle this kind of forum users for months or years without getting burned out 16.58.18 Join kushal_12_27_200 [0] (n=kushal@12.169.180.134) 16.59.36 # gevaerts: For me it is just trying not to reply immediately when someone says something that makes me cross (although I don't always manage that)! 17.01.09 Quit kushal_12_27_200 (Client Quit) 17.01.36 Join kushal_12_27_200 [0] (n=kushal@12.169.180.134) 17.03.13 # BigBambi: reply a bit more to his posts, maybe he'll go away ;-) 17.03.28 # I'll give it a go! 17.05.57 Quit corevette (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 17.07.28 Join Domonoky [0] (n=Domonoky@f051110157.adsl.alicedsl.de) 17.08.09 # gevaerts: Haha, he has blocked PMs from me :) That just means he will get no explanation when his random posts get deleted :) 17.08.43 # His choice I guess 17.08.59 # who was it? 17.09.16 # Horscht: Just someone in the forum 17.09.39 # Who took offence at one of my replies, and me deleting first an abusive then an irrelevant post 17.09.56 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 17.10.18 # oh, generic forum troll, then? 17.10.36 # on his way 17.10.37 # * gevaerts waits for BigBambi to delete yet another post 17.11.37 # Febs: you there? 17.11.50 # * petur wonders if gevaerts is also forum mod already 17.11.50 # gevaerts: done! 17.12.00 # petur: He is developer, yes 17.12.23 # ah, it is a profile thing 17.12.59 # Different groups give different badges and different powers, e.g. admin, global mod, developer, expert 17.14.00 # I do think I'd better leave modding to others though. People might find it strange if their posts get moved or removed by this 3-post newbie 17.14.29 Quit miepchen^schlaf (Connection timed out) 17.14.40 # They don't know who deletes it 17.14.46 Join miepchen^schlaf [0] (n=el_miep@p54BF420A.dip.t-dialin.net) 17.15.00 # And you clearly aren't a newbie in that sense as you are good enough to have commit rights! 17.15.22 Join Atari_ [0] (n=chatzill@62-31-47-192.cable.ubr05.dals.blueyonder.co.uk) 17.15.27 # just "quiet" 17.15.31 Nick Atari_ is now known as Acorn (n=chatzill@62-31-47-192.cable.ubr05.dals.blueyonder.co.uk) 17.15.54 # They do know who sends them the polite PM though, and they probably don't know what these "commit rights" are 17.16.19 # allows you to commit crimes, durrr 17.16.41 # hmm, are there any downsides to charging using usb (h300), is it bad for the player or battery life in any way? 17.16.41 # Like crashing Vista and OSX ? 17.17.04 # OSX crashed as well= 17.17.24 # goddamnit, 90% of the time i want to hit ?, i hit = instead 17.17.27 # gevaerts: True, but I still wouldn't worry. 17.19.10 # USB storage crashes OSX 10.5, yes. I don't really know why right now (I thought I knew, but I fixed that, and it still doesn't work) 17.20.03 # It looks like your latest scsi work made detection on windows a lot faster 17.20.28 # (if it works at all, i.e. when connected to the root hub) 17.20.32 Quit Acorn ("ChatZilla 0.9.81 [Firefox 2.0.0.12/2008020121]") 17.20.46 Join mchua [0] (n=mchua@cpe-66-65-114-204.nyc.res.rr.com) 17.20.47 # gevaerts: another reason for me to not upgrade to Leopard... 17.21.18 # amiconn: that's good news. As far as I know SCSI should now be correct 17.24.05 # Unfortunately I did not find anything in the apple diskmode inits that fixes the apparent signal quality issue 17.24.51 # My local version has no #if CONFIG_CPU == PP5020 anymore though 17.26.05 Quit RoC_MasterMind ("Leaving") 17.26.50 # I think it's best to just commit that change. I have it here as well. 17.30.49 Join tvelocity [0] (n=tony@athedsl-4407241.home.otenet.gr) 17.38.16 Join Ohm [0] (n=gandhi@85.8.4.38.static.se.wasadata.net) 17.38.59 # Llorea1: I spoke to the people in my course that are doing an alternative design for the rockbox playlist creating/editing 17.39.12 # It's not only that #if removed, but also a bit of cleanup 17.39.14 # they'll come here and make the results available for you when they're done 17.39.55 # but now i gotta hop out 17.39.57 Part Ohm 17.41.42 # amiconn: I commited the #ifdef removal. Hardware initialization is not really my area of expertise anyway, so I'll leave it to you. 17.45.10 # gevaerts: it doesnt seem that my ipod 5th gen charges while in rockbox usb mode. i dont know if its because the battery is dying on me or because if its just cause usbstack isnt completed. clarify? 17.45.38 # currently using my gf's ipod nano with it and charging has been fine 17.46.02 # Afaik we don't control the battery charger, so the charging current will just be ~100mA 17.46.27 # ...which isn't much more than what the device consumes while operating. So it will charge, but very slowly 17.46.53 # amiconn: my battery drains out though 17.46.59 # so it must be the battery itself? 17.49.32 # fyrestorm: the USB stack runs with the CPU "boosted", i.e. at maximum clock frequency (because otherwise high speed doesn't seem to work). That's combined with disk activity if you are actively copying files, and (maybe) backlight, depending on your settings. If it really only charges at 100mA, I wouldn't be surprised if it drains. 17.50.30 # It shouldn't drain very fast though 17.51.07 Join Zarggg [0] (n=zarggg@216-15-73-111.c3-0.eas-ubr6.atw-eas.pa.cable.rcn.com) 17.51.42 # * gevaerts currently doesn't know much about charging though 17.52.20 Part Daisuke_Laptop ("Konversation terminated!") 17.52.24 Quit BlakeJohnson86 ("Leaving.") 17.57.20 Quit Arathis ("Bye, bye") 17.58.07 Quit blithe (card.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 17.58.07 NSplit card.freenode.net irc.freenode.net 17.58.12 Quit Lear ("ChatZilla 0.9.81 [Firefox 3.0b4pre/2008022906]") 18.02.39 Join blithe [0] (n=blithe@67.18.176.106) 18.02.42 *** Server message 505: 'logbot :Private messages from unregistered users are currently blocked due to spam problems, but you can always message a staffer. Please register! ( http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#privmsg )' 18.06.02 Quit DaCapn (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 18.06.07 Part Buschel 18.06.16 # gevaerts: Sorry I haven't been around the last couple of days - will it still be useful for me to do those tests on my ipods? 18.08.26 Join ffm [0] (n=ffm@unaffiliated/ffm) 18.09.01 # linuxstb: Yes. We still don't have a direct comparison of PP5020 and 5021/22 for signal quality, so they will be useful 18.10.15 # Can you remind me what you wanted? Build with high-speed USB and then do a large read test and see how many resets? 18.10.26 # gevaerts: backlight is off and no disk activity is happening while its plugged in 18.10.47 # Are there any plans for a port to the Rio Cari? 18.11.42 # linuxstb: something like that. If possible, try different USB ports to find the one with most resets, and do the comparison on that one. If the hypothesis is right, you'll get way more resets on the 5g than on the 4g 18.14.30 # fyrestorm: All I know for sure is that my sansa c250 doesn't discharge while connected. As I said though, I'm not a specialist on this. 18.14.39 # gotcha 18.14.48 # once i get the new battery for my 4th gen 18.14.59 # im gonna order a new one for the 5th 18.15.46 # fyrestorm: if it charges in the OF, the battery should be fine 18.15.55 # yeah 18.16.08 # ffm: the ports are started by interested users or owners of a device, it is not planned. Never heard about a Rio Cari port (never heard the name) but to be sure you could search in the "new ports" section of our forums or ask around in a Rio forum or so 18.16.49 Join argumentD [0] (n=argument@cpe-76-173-115-95.socal.res.rr.com) 18.17.13 # gevaerts: trying to make a database in rb drains it out though, someone here told me the battery was going out, so i was wondering if the two were connected in some way 18.17.24 Join nplus [0] (n=nplus@141.25.Globcom.Net) 18.18.16 # once i get a new one i'll be able to check it out :) 18.20.26 Quit mf0102 ("Verlassend") 18.22.22 Quit SirFunk (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 18.23.03 Join SirFunk [0] (n=Sir@206-159-155-246.netsync.net) 18.24.43 Join hannesd_ [0] (n=light@p5B160070.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 18.25.33 Quit ompaul (Remote closed the connection) 18.26.32 Join LeGreffi3R [0] (n=greffier@89.156.165.221) 18.26.38 # hello there 18.26.57 # I've got kind of a weird trouble... 18.28.00 # I used my ipod as an installation disk (so i put another bootloader) since then i can't seem to get the rock box on... 18.28.15 # i have the apple exclamative folder 18.28.33 Join Arathis [0] (n=doerk@p508A68D4.dip.t-dialin.net) 18.28.56 # i tried every ipodpatcher/dd/rbutils/ (did i miss one?) 18.29.02 Quit hannesd (Connection timed out) 18.29.02 Nick hannesd_ is now known as hannesd (n=light@p5B160070.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 18.29.15 # but no way , the ipod doesn"t boot 18.29.33 # (i have no itunes to make a factory reset) 18.31.44 Join Buschel [0] (n=abc@p54A3DBAB.dip.t-dialin.net) 18.32.36 Join monkeysareusforu [0] (i=monkeysa@c-71-202-163-195.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) 18.32.47 # hey guys 18.33.11 # anyone there? :\ 18.34.05 # pixelma: kk. Is progress being made on the iPod port in the enc firmwares? 18.34.17 # monkeysareusforu, please read the guidelines linked in the topic 18.34.28 # LeGreffi3R, you tried doing the ipod manual restore, you mean? 18.35.06 # i tried several dd and script 18.35.09 # ffm: haven't heard of anyone working on it 18.35.10 # on the ipod 18.35.31 # i think a restore should be the pretty much the same :/ 18.35.54 # pixelma: ah. Any idea how I could get starting working on it? 18.36.12 # LeGreffi3R, did you do this process: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IpodManualRestore 18.36.36 # can you guys hear me? 18.36.52 # monkeysareusforu, yes. ask your question 18.36.58 # no krazykit, just a part of this :) 18.37.01 # thanks 18.37.02 # ffm: no idea 18.37.05 # i give it a try... 18.37.14 # i am having trouble playing video files on rockbox for ipod 5.5, 30gb 18.37.32 # scorche|sh or scorche ping 18.37.35 # it says video file is no file, and i cant even play mp3s after, have to reboot in order to play mp3s 18.37.44 Quit Beta2K ("My damn controlling terminal disappeared!") 18.38.08 Join PaulJam [0] (n=PaulJam_@p54BCF674.dip.t-dialin.net) 18.38.35 # i converteded avi file to mp4 and h264, and still no go ; ; 18.38.54 # monkeysareusforu, http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/PluginMpegplayer 18.38.56 Join ZeroRules [0] (i=Red-X4@77.124.1.195) 18.38.59 Quit blithe (card.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 18.39.09 # rockbox ONLY supports mpeg1 and mpeg2 video, monkeysareusforu 18.39.30 # Does somehere use the PictureFlow plugin? 18.39.45 Join linuxstb_ [0] (n=linuxstb@rockbox/developer/linuxstb) 18.39.46 # 0.o thanks 18.40.00 # thought it also played mp4 like ipod, thanks a bunch though 18.40.01 # * petur thinks ata-iriver.c lines 39/41 are a bit confusing thanks to a missing 0 18.40.35 # Guys how long does it take to the PictureFlow plugin to first load? 18.41.29 # know a really good freeware program to convert batches of files to mpeg-2? lol 18.41.41 # Guys how long does it take to the PictureFlow plugin to first load? 18.41.45 # monkeysareusforu, there is a link to winff on that wiki page we linked 18.41.58 # ZeroRules, have patience in waiting for an answer. we saw the question the first time. 18.41.59 # you are my hero 18.42.05 # ZeroRules: this depends on the number of albums and if the database is loaded to ram. 18.42.07 NHeal (timeout) card.freenode.net irc.freenode.net 18.42.12 # gevaerts: Hmm, I've done some tests with my 5g (copying about 400MB), and no resets at all so far... I'm now trying with a larger directory. 18.42.24 # but on avrage.. 18.42.26 # gevaerts: And as I write that, I get a reset... 18.42.42 # ZeroRules: on my h300 it usually takes 3-5 minutes (i think) 18.42.51 # but on the first time? 18.43.11 # linuxstb_: is that using high-speed ? What USB port are you using ? (front, back, laptop, hub...) 18.43.22 # ZeroRules: Took 5 mins or so on my F60 18.43.51 # mine was working for over an hour and nothing happaned.... what should I do? 18.44.06 # ZeroRules: Does album art work proerly in the WPS? 18.44.22 # and did the database initialise properly? 18.44.36 # no idea, i started the plugin and it got stuck on the prepering artwork screen 18.44.53 # So did you already initialise the database? 18.44.57 # ZeroRules: did you initialise the database at all? 18.44.57 # yes 18.45.01 # yes i did 18.45.31 # completely with a rebootß 18.45.32 # what do u mean? 18.45.37 # s/ß/? 18.45.39 # oh yeah 18.45.45 # it worked just fine 18.46.01 # So you can browse the database, play music from it etc? 18.46.06 # yes 18.47.11 Join onakikfkf [0] (i=0@86.122.116.44) 18.47.30 Quit monkeysareusforu () 18.47.41 # any ideas? 18.47.50 # and the other question: does your album art show up in the WPS? 18.48.03 # what do u mean by that? 18.48.10 Quit gnakikmak (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 18.48.40 # In the WPS, do you see album art 18.49.22 # just as an indicator to make sure that your album art is stored correctly - it should also work in a while playing screen with album art 18.49.57 # gevaerts: Yes, it's with high-speed (-DUSE_HIGH_SPEED), and it's a front USB port on my Desktop. It seems to be resetting more now though - 5 times in about 4 minutes (whilst copying a 1GB directory). I'm just repeating the test again 18.50.35 # i looked in my .rockbox/wps folder and found no album art.. 18.51.01 # linuxstb_: maybe you're just lucky to have good quality wiring to your front ports 18.51.05 Quit linuxstb (Nick collision from services.) 18.51.10 Nick linuxstb_ is now known as linuxsbt (n=linuxstb@rockbox/developer/linuxstb) 18.51.13 Nick linuxsbt is now known as linuxstb (n=linuxstb@i-83-67-212-170.freedom2surf.net) 18.51.23 # ZeroRules: try reading www.rockbox.org/wiki/AlbumArt 18.51.59 # 1) You need albumart for pictureflow to work 2) Album art doesn't go in the /.rockbox/WPS 18.52.01 # gevaerts: How often have others been reporting resets? 18.52.02 Join Arathis2 [0] (n=doerk@p508A5279.dip.t-dialin.net) 18.53.11 # so where does it go to? 18.53.22 # ZeroRules: try reading www.rockbox.org/wiki/AlbumArt 18.53.26 # krazykit> seems worst 18.54.10 # i wasn"t finished, i had to unmount (to format sdb2 as fat32) , now he just boot and fail endlessly 18.54.10 Quit BigMac (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 18.54.19 # linuxstb: I get 5 to 15 per 100MB on c250. amiconn got dozens from browsing the filesystem on a mini 2nd gen 18.54.29 # (and the drive make an anormal noise :/) 18.54.50 # LeGreffi3R, an abnormal noise? um, could you try to describe the noise? 18.55.08 # like he read, but with a click 18.55.30 # I don't think it's a big deal, he just worked 2 minutes ago 18.55.35 # gevaerts: OK, I'm getting nowhere near that many. 5 for the first test with 1GB of data, and 3 resets when I just repeated the test.. 18.55.41 Quit kushal_12_27_200 ("This computer has gone to sleep") 18.56.05 # krazykit> now i can't shut it down, can't mount it, he just goes up and down... 18.56.10 # gevaerts: But I'll give my ipod color a go now, see if that's noticably different. 18.56.24 # linuxstb: just to make sure, that's reading ? 18.56.55 # LeGreffi3R, you should be able to boot it into emergency disk mode (the instructions ought to be in the wiki or manual; i'm not familiar enough with the ipod to know off the top of my head) 18.56.57 # gevaerts: Yes 18.57.15 # linuxstb: ok. Let's see what the 4g does 18.57.15 # gevaerts: (with Linux as host OS) 19.00.12 # linuxstb: for some reason your nick already made me assume that 19.02.17 # gevaerts: Just confirming... 19.02.51 # Anyway, host os shouldn't matter. It's just that linux makes it much easier to count these resets than windows 19.04.09 Part ZeroRules 19.04.27 Join maxkelley_ [0] (n=max@cpe-74-69-17-126.rochester.res.rr.com) 19.04.28 Quit maxkelley (Connection reset by peer) 19.04.37 Join robin0800 [0] (n=robin080@cpc2-brig8-0-0-cust498.brig.cable.ntl.com) 19.05.31 # gevaerts: So far, no resets on my Color... 19.06.03 Quit Arathis2 ("Bye, bye") 19.06.31 # linuxstb: if that keeps up, we have two conclusions : (a) you have excellent front-side ports, and (b) the hypothesis that this is a PP5020 vs PP502[12] issue gets a lot stronger 19.07.57 # damn it , it's not in lsusb anymore? 19.08.04 # what the hell with this? 19.08.24 # gevaerts: Just got the first reset - about 800MB into a 1GB transfer... 19.09.14 Quit Arathis (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 19.09.54 Join Arathis [0] (n=doerk@p508A66C1.dip.t-dialin.net) 19.09.57 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 19.10.17 Join BigMac [0] (n=Me@c-67-189-253-195.hsd1.ct.comcast.net) 19.10.30 # LeGreffi3R: Have you forced your ipod into disk mode? 19.10.49 Join BlakeJohnson86 [0] (n=bjohnson@c-67-190-234-51.hsd1.mn.comcast.net) 19.11.03 # yeah here it is 19.11.17 # linuxstb: I suggest you do it twice (same as the video). If you get only 2 or 3 in total (vs 8 for the video), I think the difference is likely to be significant. 19.11.38 # i'm so angry... 19.11.59 # gevaerts: Yes, I'm running it again now 19.12.52 # gevearts: is high speed now working for the combination of ipod and windows? 19.15.18 Join dandin1 [0] (n=dandin1@bas7-ottawa23-1088827693.dsl.bell.ca) 19.16.08 # Buschel: I think for windows we only have signal quality issues left, which seem to depend on PP5020 vs PP502[12]. PP5020 seems to work pretty well, PP502[12] seems to work well if you have good USB ports. 19.17.42 # * gevaerts is going to have dinner now 19.21.58 # i get the message "connect to itunes" , unlike half an hour ago , i had a progress bar with black background and a apple... 19.23.51 Join DaCapn [0] (n=dacapn@c-76-105-220-239.hsd1.or.comcast.net) 19.24.09 # LeGreffi3R: That progress bar is the Apple firmware trying to reflash itself - you should do as it tells you (insert a charger) 19.24.29 # insert a charger? 19.24.32 # LeGreffi3R: If you interrupt that flashing process (e.g. with MENU+SELECT to reset), then badness happens... 19.24.42 # i saw that :) 19.25.42 # got it! 19.25.46 # at last :/ 19.27.25 Join x86ia [0] (n=chatzill@189.156.229.30) 19.27.29 # i didn't interupt 19.27.39 # it went again in up and down 19.28.13 # i noticed there are two 5G firmware on the german sit 19.28.17 # *site 19.28.20 Join gregzx [0] (n=chatzill@aaun185.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) 19.28.40 # Which German site? 19.28.49 # http://www.felixbruns.de/iPod/firmware/ 19.29.04 # Well, that isn't much to do with here 19.29.50 # BigBambi: The IpodManualRestore wiki page links there 19.29.57 # Oooops 19.30.00 # * BigBambi apologises 19.30.27 Join blithe [0] (n=blithe@67.18.176.106) 19.30.27 Join Roswell [0] (n=443483ce@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/session) 19.30.27 # LeGreffi3R: I think the duplicate firmwares are the same. No idea why Apple publish them with different numbers... 19.31.27 Quit Roswell (Client Quit) 19.33.08 # oh damn this i got the itunes screen again... 19.33.25 # gonna try another with itunes 19.33.41 # (thank you apple for your so great software...) 19.33.46 # :( 19.38.44 Join quaal [0] (n=rodney@pool-96-228-165-104.tampfl.fios.verizon.net) 19.38.51 # anyone know where to get new themes/fonts for rockbox 19.39.08 # i like the theme that comes on the new version but it seems like it and all the others are created for miniature fonts 19.39.08 # quaal: use rbutil? 19.39.30 # rbutil can get (some) themes but it gets you all the fonts that you need. 19.39.36 # whenever i use a font that is usable from several feet it makes the screen look retarded 19.39.49 # quaal: www.rockbox.org/wiki/WpsGallery or http://rockbox-themes.cleansoap.org/ 19.40.14 # or make your own? 19.40.58 # cool i'll check these out 19.40.59 # thanks 19.42.08 Quit Mathiasdm (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 19.42.41 # got it working, thank you :) 19.44.03 # LeGreffi3R, good to hear :) 19.45.12 Quit ffm ("Leaving.") 19.46.35 Part Llorea1 19.49.06 Quit advcomp2019 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 19.55.36 Join Beta2K [0] (n=Beta2K@cerberus.drazof.com) 19.56.15 Quit Nico_P (Remote closed the connection) 19.58.43 Quit XavierGr () 19.59.56 # Is eq.c the source for the parametric EQ? 20.00.23 # hmm 20.00.31 # if they can scroll the next song in the playlist 20.00.46 # it should also be able to scroll the current song? 20.01.02 # yes 20.01.08 # Does the line have %s in it? 20.01.30 # i havent checked the theme's code 20.01.32 # just loaded it 20.01.33 # the car theme 20.02.03 # well, if the line is longer than the screen and isn't scrolling, first thing to do is check if that line is set to scroll in the .wps file 20.02.17 Quit dionoea ("Lost terminal") 20.02.25 # The theme author may have forgotten, or even not wanted it to scroll 20.02.34 # i see 20.02.36 Join dionoea [0] (n=dionoea@yop.chewa.net) 20.03.00 Join XavierGr [0] (n=xavier@rockbox/staff/XavierGr) 20.04.01 # Wouldn't suprise me if it's not suposed to scroll... 20.04.34 # yea guess it isnt 20.05.17 # think i found one i like more anyway 20.05.18 # simplex2 20.05.36 # I'm trying to figure out why playback stops when USB is plugged in with the appropriate button held. I can't find anything in usb.c to cause that. Are there any playback experts around ? 20.07.51 # hmm 20.08.03 # i think i fixed that problem after installing rockbox on my ipodvideo 20.09.17 # nope guess not 20.09.25 Nick maxkelley_ is now known as maxkelley (n=max@cpe-74-69-17-126.rochester.res.rr.com) 20.09.28 # guess its only when i plugin to the car charger 20.09.41 # gevaerts, what platform, what RB version? 20.10.05 # I just did it on my Gigabeat v16457 and it works 20.12.11 # Beta2K: I'm working on the USB stack for portalplayer based DAPs. I'm using a sansa c250 myself, but others have reported the same on ipod when using the new stack 20.12.41 # what button am i supposed to press to make the playback continue when i plug it in to computer 20.13.11 # quaal: which player ? 20.13.18 # ipood video 20.13.23 # Aye, explains why my gigabeat works :) 20.13.34 # quaal: menu 20.13.41 # k 20.13.55 Quit Arathis ("Bye, bye") 20.14.47 # seems like it worked for me 20.14.57 # it went into this menu thing though that i had to get out of 20.15.22 # but at least its not on the DO NOT DISCONNECT screen 20.16.40 # quaal: Please take a look at the manual 20.16.47 # It tells you things like that 20.20.29 Join Mathiasdm [0] (n=Mathias@d54C597B6.access.telenet.be) 20.20.44 Join MrMessy [0] (n=alan@host86-139-173-66.range86-139.btcentralplus.com) 20.21.14 Quit MrMessy (Client Quit) 20.23.50 # * gevaerts probably found it. Silly mistake 20.26.24 Join ompaul [0] (n=ompaul@gnewsense/friend/ompaul) 20.28.50 Join ryran [0] (n=ryran@adsl-157-83-251.clt.bellsouth.net) 20.30.07 # linuxstb: did you get more resets ? 20.30.55 Join Arathis [0] (n=doerk@p508A66C1.dip.t-dialin.net) 20.32.31 Quit Mathiasdm ("Yuuw!") 20.33.16 # gevaerts: Yes, my Color seems to be resetting about the same amount as the video did - with 5 or 6 tests, the resets ranged from 2 to 6 per test. 20.34.28 Join Llorean [0] (n=DarkkOne@ppp-70-243-42-226.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net) 20.35.55 # linuxstb: interesting. I think it means that (a) the signal quality is the same for both, or (b) your USB ports are too tolerant to test this properly. 20.39.59 # linuxstb: I think it's probably both, so what we're looking for to get signal quality right is not PP5020 vs PP5022 but H10 vs ipod vs sansa. 20.40.43 Join ndim [0] (i=hun@moooo.n-dimensional.de) 20.40.45 # My two ipods are my only PP targets, so I can't compare with anything else... 20.42.13 # I'm just combining what you see with what amiconn sees on mini 2nd gen vs H10. It's still guessing of course 20.47.52 Quit mchua ("Holy shiny distraction, Batman!") 20.51.26 Quit Arathis ("Bye, bye") 20.52.31 Join desowin [0] (n=desowin@atheme/developer/desowin) 20.52.38 # gevaerts, It would cause no harm, and might be useful to collect data on motherboard USB chipsets as well? Even going with the signal quality hypothesis perhaps some chipsets deal with a poor signal better than others? 20.54.02 Quit gregzx (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 20.56.24 # soap: the big problem with that is that to get meaningful results IMHO you really have to change one parameter at a time, including the exact player used (battery can still be a factor as well), and (maybe) the cable. 20.57.09 Join ryran_ [0] (n=ryran@adsl-157-83-251.clt.bellsouth.net) 20.57.20 # unless your sample size is large enough. Who knows what patterns might emerge? 21.01.37 Quit ryran_ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 21.01.58 Join ryran_ [0] (n=ryran@adsl-157-83-251.clt.bellsouth.net) 21.02.05 Quit PaulJam (".") 21.02.49 Quit ryran_ (Client Quit) 21.03.26 # That's true of course. But can we get a sample big enough ? The "real" solution would of course be to jus do the official USB electrical tests, but that requires equipment that I doubt many people have available (i.e. a multi-GHz sampling rate scope) 21.03.51 # gevaerts: What else do you need? 21.04.08 # Where are you physically located? 21.04.59 # BigBambi: not much, just some software to put the device in test mode which you can download 21.05.23 # I have multi GHz scope, but how do you connect it? 21.05.55 Join Mathiasdm [0] (n=Mathias@d54C597B6.access.telenet.be) 21.07.09 Quit Buschel (Remote closed the connection) 21.08.04 # BigBambi: good question. You'll also need some kind of adapter (the one I can access at work is already set up for that), but I'm not sure how/where to get it. Have a look at http://www.usb.org/developers/docs/#comp_test_procedures for the exact procedures. I guess we don't have to do everything exactly, just a visual comparison with the OF should be sufficient 21.08.39 # soap: I'm in Belgium (near Hasselt) 21.09.03 # that rules out me getting you a Mini G1 quickly. 21.09.25 # Note that I haven't tested the test mode properly yet. I'll do that on monday. 21.09.26 # Well, I have access to multi GHz oscilloscopes and delay/pulse generators, so if there is way to attach them I'd be happy to try 21.09.58 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 21.10.33 # gotta reboot for some tests, be back in a bit. 21.10.35 # BigBambi: I guess stripping a cable to access the leads would be sufficient for our purposes, but I know next to nothing about this (I get some help from someone at work on this) 21.10.59 # Yes, that would be doable 21.11.08 Quit soap () 21.11.30 # Looking at the docs I think I would need instructions along the lines of strip this cable, connect this wire to here etc. 21.12.49 # probably not particularly feasible unless we find someone who does it day in day out 21.13.26 Quit Mathiasdm ("Yuuw!") 21.14.00 # Hmm, there look to be some intermediary PCBs as well 21.14.58 # I guess we mainly have to look at D+ and D-, which are green and white. 21.16.12 # I'm not sure if we need that PCB. Aftr all, we just want to know if it "looks ok", not if it is really perfect in every way. 21.16.27 Quit ryran (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 21.16.37 # yes, true 21.16.43 # But we probably need someone who does this kind of thing regularly to be sure 21.17.07 # That's just it, I could look at the signal, but I wouldn't know what I was looking at :) 21.18.58 # Well, I guess we can assume that the OF is OK (or nearly), so we compare... USB specifies a set of test modes (that's what this bit of software is for) to get a repeatable signal, so OF and rockbox should really look exactly the same. 21.19.11 Quit nplus (Remote closed the connection) 21.19.36 # I'll report monday night if the testmode support works. It doesn't make much sense to do much more before that. 21.20.19 # BigBambi: Supposing you could do these tests, what players can you check ? 21.21.18 # Only E260 (and eventually gigabeat S). 21.21.32 # What kind of data are you guys looking for? 21.21.51 Join soap [50] (n=soap@rockbox/staff/soap) 21.21.51 # gevaerts: Let me know if I can help, I'm more than happy to try :) 21.22.11 # Beta2K: USB signal quality 21.22.33 # I've got a 100MHz scope I can take captures with 21.22.38 # Beta2K: it looks like our usb stack has signal quality problems on some players, less so on others, and we are trying to find out some more data 21.23.02 # Beta2K: From what gevaerts said I think you will need a GHz scope 21.23.06 # hum 21.23.09 # Beta2K: USB high speed is 480 MBit, so I doubt you can get very far with that 21.23.15 # Oye, 2.0 not 1.1 21.23.36 # Although 1.1 might of course also show the problem 21.23.52 # * gevaerts checks the scope requirements for 1.1 21.24.23 # 1.1 is 11MBit so 22Mhzish 21.25.41 # Sponsored Links 21.25.53 # * gevaerts makes another paste error... 21.25.58 # hehehe 21.26.08 # * BigBambi stops trying to decipher gevaerts' comment :) 21.28.12 # They specify two possile scopes, both 1GHz+. If our problems are just signal level, and not noise, I guess 100MHz would be plenty for full speed. What players do you have access to ? 21.29.07 # Gigabeat F and I should be able to track down a iPod 21.29.21 # Gigabeat F doesn't use the new stack 21.29.26 # I know 21.29.50 # So using it to look at signal strength problems with the new stack is not so useful then 21.29.50 # I'll grab a friends ipod and grab some captures 21.29.58 # What kind of capture do you want? 21.31.10 # Any point in a data stream? 21.31.41 # We want to know if the signal looks the same in the OF as in rockbox (levels, edge sharpness,...). USB specifies a test mode that can get you a repeatable signal, which you can pu 21.31.54 Quit keanu|afk (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 21.32.03 # My backspace and enter are too close together... 21.32.14 Join keanu|afk [0] (n=keanu@unaffiliated/keanu) 21.32.47 # You can put the device in test mode using software which is at http://www.usb.org/developers/docs/#comp_test_procedures (we probably want TEST_PACKET) 21.32.55 # gevaerts: whilst you are moving them you should remove that shortcut to halt you have too :) 21.34.09 # That's actually more realistic :-) Some more command history configuration should fix that I guess 21.34.21 Quit robin0800 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 21.35.35 Quit BigMac (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 21.36.18 # off 21.36.24 Part x86ia 21.36.38 Quit soap () 21.36.40 # Beta2K: I'm not sure if the test mode works properly in the current rockbox code (not really tested yet) 21.38.48 Quit miepchen^schlaf (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 21.39.04 # regarding sansa e200 starnge noise - could anyone familiar with this port check if buffers doesn't cover with some audio hardware registers/cache? I get very specific noise when copying file 21.39.30 Join Buschel [0] (n=abc@p54A3DBAB.dip.t-dialin.net) 21.39.59 Join miepchen^schlaf [0] (n=el_miep@p54BF420A.dip.t-dialin.net) 21.40.13 Join soap [50] (n=soap@rockbox/staff/soap) 21.40.51 # and that noise seems to be different when copying different files 21.49.02 # So anyone around know much about the parametric EQ? 21.49.52 # Beta2K: that's preglow's area 21.52.22 Quit Thundercloud (Remote closed the connection) 22.00.44 Quit seraph ("Ex-Chat") 22.02.20 # Ok 22.04.49 Quit TMM ("Ex-Chat") 22.05.01 Quit dandin1 () 22.07.35 Part Llorean 22.07.54 Join keanu [0] (n=keanu@unaffiliated/keanu) 22.09.32 Quit keanu|afk (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 22.11.16 Join kushal_12_27_200 [0] (n=kushal@12.169.180.134) 22.12.20 Quit soap (Remote closed the connection) 22.18.44 Mode "#rockbox -bb *!*4a8e5fd8@* *!*@99.242.23.210 " by ChanServ (ChanServ@services.) 22.18.44 Mode "#rockbox -bb *!n=Apoligym@74-142-86-22.dhcp.insightbb.com *!*42f95557@* " by ChanServ (ChanServ@services.) 22.18.44 Mode "#rockbox -bb *!*4a8e5616@* *!*@161-151-58-66.gci.net " by ChanServ (ChanServ@services.) 22.18.44 Mode "#rockbox -bb *!*chatzill@189.156.233.119 *!i=4208ae1*@* " by ChanServ (ChanServ@services.) 22.18.44 Mode "#rockbox -bb *!n=Alias777@*.hsd1.il.comcast.net *!i=52058c5c@* " by ChanServ (ChanServ@services.) 22.18.44 Mode "#rockbox -bb *!*@71-221-178-4.bois.qwest.net *!*18eddffa@* " by ChanServ (ChanServ@services.) 22.18.44 Mode "#rockbox -bb *!*@250-223-237-24.gci.net *!i=CC@64-251-150-231-cablemodem-roll.fidnet.com " by ChanServ (ChanServ@services.) 22.18.44 Mode "#rockbox -bb *!?=jimmy@201.163.76.110 *!*n=there@*.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com " by ChanServ (ChanServ@services.) 22.19.30 # oh spring cleanup 22.19.54 # it is good to clear it out every now and again 22.20.21 # people tend to stop trying after a few weeks of being banned, and you never know what happens with IPs... 22.20.31 # indeed 22.23.56 # "the most recent build took 4mins 19secs" <= coolness 22.25.49 # for *every* target? 22.26.07 # that was the 71 builds, all targets 22.26.53 # so just few seconds per build, wow 22.27.07 # we have 18 fine servers now 22.27.42 Join keanu|afk [0] (n=keanu@unaffiliated/keanu) 22.27.46 Join corevette [0] (n=corevett@adsl-75-18-210-31.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) 22.27.52 Join Arathis [0] (n=doerk@p508A66C1.dip.t-dialin.net) 22.28.10 Quit keanu (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 22.32.27 Join soap [50] (n=soap@rockbox/staff/soap) 22.33.25 Join gibbon_ [0] (n=joel@195.182.2.234) 22.34.48 Join hannesd_ [0] (n=light@p5B160070.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 22.35.54 Quit fyrestorm (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 22.38.18 # petur: Leading zeroes... 22.39.20 # hrrr 22.39.32 # yes, leading zeroes :) 22.46.55 Join Llorean [0] (n=DarkkOne@adsl-64-149-229-195.dsl.hstntx.sbcglobal.net) 22.49.21 Join TheBashar [0] (n=User@adsl-75-31-137-24.dsl.irvnca.sbcglobal.net) 22.50.01 Quit hannesd (Connection timed out) 22.50.01 Nick hannesd_ is now known as hannesd (n=light@p5B160070.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 22.51.10 Join keanu [0] (n=keanu@unaffiliated/keanu) 22.51.36 Quit keanu|afk (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 22.57.14 Nick JdGordon|zzz is now known as JdGordon (n=jonno@rockbox/developer/JdGordon) 23.03.24 Join advcomp2019 [0] (n=advcomp2@unaffiliated/advcomp2019) 23.03.51 # Bagder, would any more servers be useful? 23.04.12 # sure, as long as they're fast 23.05.42 # 2ghz G5 fast enough? 23.05.59 # I'd guess so 23.07.41 # Are the requirements for a server documented somewhere ? 23.07.55 # Yeah 23.07.57 Quit cg (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 23.08.04 # Bagder: once I get my boxes im 2 servers will be at jdgordon.info:9922 and :9822 23.08.15 # 99 will be the quad core again 23.08.17 # gevaerts: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/BuildServer 23.09.17 Quit XavierGr (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 23.09.20 Join newToRockbox [0] (n=598a6c09@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-38d7cc6f0922cc10) 23.09.30 # JdGordon: great! 23.10.00 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 23.10.20 Quit newToRockbox (Client Quit) 23.10.22 # oooh, quad :) 23.12.37 # btw, you can check the build times in the build table to get a feel for what the performances are for the existing servers 23.14.18 # quad core is so 2007. I want octalcore! 23.16.31 Quit nicktastique (Remote closed the connection) 23.16.54 Quit ompaul (Client Quit) 23.17.46 Quit ch4os_ ("Lost terminal") 23.17.49 # I have a core2 duo 1.8 GHz on an ADSL connection (about 400kbps uplink I guess) that I can put a chroot on. 23.18.06 Join fyrestorm [0] (n=fyre@cpe-68-173-160-247.nyc.res.rr.com) 23.18.38 # Bagder: we gonna try with the mac? 23.19.33 # if it builds fine, why not? 23.20.18 # Is the bootloader built with make all? 23.20.36 # it has those empty object messages... but if thy show up as warning they can be fixed properly anyway 23.22.46 Nick fxb__ is now known as fxb (n=felixbru@h1252615.stratoserver.net) 23.23.31 Join dandin1 [0] (n=dandin1@bas7-ottawa23-1088827693.dsl.bell.ca) 23.24.08 # Beta2K: you need to select bootloader at configure time 23.24.16 Join tessarakt [0] (n=jens@e180067051.adsl.alicedsl.de) 23.24.52 # Ok 23.24.55 # Thanks :) 23.28.32 Quit japc (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 23.29.25 Join cg [0] (n=cromos@88.193.143.80) 23.30.56 # Bagder: I'll look into setting up a build server here, but I first have to work out some security considerations (it's not in a DMZ, and I don't really like the idea of giving someone I don't personally know access to my network, so it needs some work) 23.31.52 # fair enough, just let me know if/when you get something up! 23.34.22 # Roflol, I don't believe it! 23.34.53 # * amiconn digged in the uclinux sources to check whether/how they detect the difference between hdd and cf, and found this: 23.35.18 # http://cvs.uclinux.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb.cgi/uClinux-2.4.x/drivers/ide/ide-probe.c?rev=1.17;content-type=text%2Fplain , function drive_is_flashcard() 23.35.39 Join webguest54 [0] (n=542d961f@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-5761251493ba5f09) 23.35.42 # hahaha 23.35.58 # They actually check for the model name, unless the card has the proper CF signature 23.36.26 # well, that code is ancient 23.36.38 # "Mar 05, 2003" 23.36.58 Join Yallii [0] (n=yalcin@ip33-5-212-87.adsl2.versatel.nl) 23.37.17 Quit webguest54 (Client Quit) 23.37.19 # You could improve on that by 'printf("Press menu if you have a CF card, power if you have a hard disk");' 23.37.23 Quit Arathis ("Bye, bye") 23.38.45 # hey 23.38.57 # what does it mean when a codec is converted to "fixed point" 23.39.03 # Bagder: I can't find any newer code in uclinux though. I also could not find browseable linux (non-uc) sources 23.39.23 # well, that's the 2.4 kernel in uclinux 23.39.29 # they also have a 2.6 tree 23.39.36 # which is bound to be newer 23.40.17 # No 2.6.x here: http://cvs.uclinux.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb.cgi/ 23.40.23 # http://lxr.linux.no/linux+v2.6.24.3/drivers/ide/ 23.40.29 # amiconn: then it's broken 23.40.47 # Yallii: It means most / all of the relevant math is performed using fixed point math rather than floating point data types. 23.40.50 # since if you download a uclinux dist, you get both 2.4 and 2.6 trees included 23.41.05 Quit argumentD ("My damn controlling terminal disappeared!") 23.41.29 # 0x848a = CompactFlash device 23.41.34 # These are *not* removable in Linux definition of the term 23.41.38 # Llorean: a positive thing, right? 23.41.40 # http://lxr.linux.no/linux+v2.6.24.3/drivers/ide/ide-probe.c#L228 23.41.59 # traces of the older logic I guess 23.42.13 # Yallii: In reference to Rockbox, yes. The devices can't really do floating point calculations fast at all, so it's necessary for realtime operation. 23.42.42 # or perhaps not... 23.43.04 Join fehmicans [0] (n=canavar@88.253.9.76) 23.43.20 Quit moos ("Go to party, good night") 23.44.00 # amiconn: I had come across that code too but didn't stand still too long, looked quite silly 23.44.00 # Llorean: I did some googling concerning Realaudio and Rockbox and came across an IRC log where it was mentioned by linuxstb that the realaudio cook decoder was converted to fixed-point 23.44.00 # No CF detection there (apart from using the signature to decide whether it's removable) 23.44.36 # * amiconn will have a look into the new ide-disk.c, to check how they do suspend now 23.44.36 # Llorean: I'm not 'educated' enough to figure out what that means though ;-) 23.44.54 # * petur gtg 23.44.59 Quit petur ("gonne") 23.45.03 Quit kushal_12_27_200 ("This computer has gone to sleep") 23.46.42 # Imho this linux driver code is quite difficult to understand compared to rockbox 23.48.48 # Yallii: It just means it's converted to fixed point. We can't use it because of licensing concerns. 23.50.50 # Llorean: distributing it as the whole package or actually using it? 23.51.41 # Distributing it as part of Rockbox. 23.52.11 # is there a possibility for me to add it to my own player then? 23.52.25 Quit Zarggg (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 23.52.52 # If you're aC programmer and have time to do the necessary work, I don't see why not. 23.53.17 # you might have gathered that I'm not a programmer at all ;-) 23.53.25 # thanks for the answers 23.53.25 Join argumentD [0] (n=argument@cpe-76-173-115-95.socal.res.rr.com) 23.53.44 Quit keanu (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 23.54.13 Join keanu [0] (n=keanu@unaffiliated/keanu) 23.57.59 Quit Yallii () 23.58.43 # Is there a API doc pertaining to things like checking button bresses?