--- Log for 05.03.108 Server: card.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 3 days and 18 hours ago 00.05.59 Quit BlakeJohnson86 ("Leaving.") 00.14.36 Join Zarggg [0] (n=zarggg@216-15-73-111.c3-0.eas-ubr6.atw-eas.pa.cable.rcn.com) 00.17.47 Join moos [0] (i=moos@m170.net81-66-158.noos.fr) 00.18.39 Nick mchua|away is now known as mchua (n=mchua@cpe-66-108-80-238.nyc.res.rr.com) 00.22.59 Quit Domonoky (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 00.24.08 Quit Kage ("return(EXIT_SUCCESS);") 00.26.08 Quit n1s () 00.35.23 Quit fehmicans (Remote closed the connection) 00.38.07 Quit Arathis ("Bye, bye") 00.38.32 # roolku: is dual boot already possible on the m:robe100 and if so how do you start into the OF? 00.40.43 # * amiconn would guess that it is possible, and works the same way as on H10 00.41.33 # maybe, but which button serves as "cancel" or "rewind" button here... 00.41.52 # pixelma: the bootloader hasn't been touched after the touchpad driver was written, so it needs a little work at least... 00.42.53 # not sure it is sensible to use the touchpad - maybe activate with the hold switch? 00.44.14 # so it's not implemented yet? 00.44.51 # just checking how easy it is to get it to work, but yes, right now not implemented 00.46.41 Join mud-rb [0] (n=jas6180@dialup-4.156.222.114.Dial1.Boston1.Level3.net) 00.46.56 # the Ipods use the hold swith for that bt since I don't have one I can't tell how I'd like it. I'm just gathering info for restructing the installation chapter of the manual 00.47.03 # s/bt/but 00.50.50 Join jas6180 [0] (n=jas6180@dialup-4.156.9.240.Dial1.Boston1.Level3.net) 00.51.03 Quit mud-rb (Nick collision from services.) 00.51.08 Nick jas6180 is now known as mud-rb (n=jas6180@dialup-4.156.9.240.Dial1.Boston1.Level3.net) 00.51.57 # The ipods only have it on hold because button detection in the bootloader isn't reliable 00.53.36 # It's nasty in several ways. First, plugging usb powers up the device even if hold is enabled, causing it to boot into the OF, hence requiring a reset to get back into rockbox 00.53.42 Quit tvelocity (Remote closed the connection) 00.54.21 # And since hold is also used for clearing settings (later in the rockbox boot sequence), timing is critical 00.54.29 Join corevette [0] (n=corevett@adsl-75-18-210-31.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) 00.56.16 # hm, it doesn't seem to work with the touchpad - presumably because you need to touch it after initialisation and before it is checked which is kind of difficult 00.56.33 # On 1st..3rd Gen and Mini 1st Gen, button detection is reliable so we could use buttons 00.56.48 # so I tried the power button which is the only physical button which works somewhat 00.58.37 # anyone on who works with usb? someone might want to look at firmware/usbstack/usb_core.c lines 477-481. i don't know how to fix it, but it's basically doing if(something) do_x(); else do_x(); do_y(); 00.58.50 # it boots the OF, but I only get a splash: !RETRY TO SYNCHRONIZE - I haven't used the OF, so I have no idea what this is about 00.59.09 # The later ones use the opto controller for the buttons. I'm not sure what the problem is. Could be either that the controller doesn't detect states, but only changes, so a button pressed before init won't be detected, or it has to do with the fact that the bootloader uses a polling driver, because we don't enable interrupts in the bootloader 00.59.58 # ...and that polling driver being unreliable for some reason 01.00.21 # yes, forgot about that - no interrupts no touchpad. 01.00.59 Join cool_walking_ [0] (n=root@203-59-129-195.perm.iinet.net.au) 01.03.03 Quit Nico_P (Remote closed the connection) 01.04.23 # okay, I seem to have deleted some relevant files for the OF. It also gives me the message when I rename it back, so not rockbox specific 01.04.29 # * roolku goes googling 01.10.55 Quit amiconn (Nick collision from services.) 01.10.57 # bah, something to do with the songdatabase out of sync, never mind. I think the power button is the best solution: short press to boot rockbox, long press for OF 01.11.01 Join amiconn [50] (n=jens@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 01.11.20 # bah, something to do with the songdatabase out of sync, never mind. I think the power button is the best solution: short press to boot rockbox, long press for OF 01.11.41 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 01.11.43 Quit waldo (Remote closed the connection) 01.11.58 # pixelma: btw does that mean you are editing the manual? 01.12.50 # haven't started the "real" work, just doing the research and thinking 01.14.24 Quit DaCapn (Remote closed the connection) 01.16.36 # but now, sleep 01.19.06 Part pixelma 01.24.51 Quit bruges_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 01.28.21 Quit shotofadds ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 01.38.11 Quit ompaul (Client Quit) 01.38.49 Join goffa [0] (n=goffa@216.220.23.105) 01.41.54 Quit perrikwp ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") 01.42.28 Quit Nevtus (Remote closed the connection) 01.44.34 Join Nevtus [0] (n=Nevtus@unaffiliated/nevtus) 01.47.30 Part toffe82 01.50.22 Quit tchan (SendQ exceeded) 01.50.44 Quit goffa_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 01.51.19 Join tchan [0] (n=tchan@lunar-linux/developer/tchan) 01.54.15 Quit 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04.39.37 Join DaCapn [0] (n=dacapn@c-76-105-220-239.hsd1.or.comcast.net) 04.44.38 Nick fxb is now known as fxb__ (n=felixbru@h1252615.stratoserver.net) 04.46.15 # JdGordon: What kind of patch? 04.48.05 # JdGordon: I'd be willing to test the patch for you. I have a Gigabeat F and a iPod Mini 1 Gen to test on. 04.49.50 # I'm reworking the way the lists are drawn 04.50.02 # bassically, if it works you shouldnt notice anything different 04.50.09 # * JdGordon porepares a patch 04.50.14 # o, ok 04.53.46 Join jas6180 [0] (n=jas6180@dialup-4.156.9.105.Dial1.Boston1.Level3.net) 04.55.21 # perrikwp: http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/8457#comment22125 04.55.51 Quit Neskaya ("leaving") 04.56.09 # ok give me a couple of minutes to get it working 04.56.14 Join webguest73 [0] (n=4c10ea95@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-19b2ab9c13049905) 04.57.17 # I'd be more interesting in you tyesting it on the ipod than the gigabeat because i've been testing on a colour target anyway 04.57.57 # hi guys i have a question i have been having problem installing rockbox on my ipod. i've never had this problem before and the last time you guys told me to restore my ipod and try again. i restored it and it still doesn't boot into rockbox. 04.58.48 # ok 04.59.49 # i really dont know what is going on. i used to have rockbox on my ipod the suddenly it just stopped wprking out of nowhere. 05.00.28 # i have been using it for about two years now. i have an ipod video with 30 gigs. 5th generation. 05.00.44 # please help. :) 05.00.56 Join Neskaya [0] (i=featherd@wiktionary/neskaya) 05.01.34 # you habnt given us much to work with... whats the actual proble? 05.02.09 # nite all :) 05.03.53 # I'm confused, does the cpchan custom build support album art? 05.04.14 # it would be pretty suucky if it didnt... seen as the official builds do 05.04.28 # THEY DO?! 05.04.41 # Is this a recent development? 05.04.45 # i cant boot into rockbox anymore it stays at the apple logo and i have no problem when intalling it manually with the rockbox utility tool. 05.05.50 # JdGordon: Ok it's loaded 05.06.09 # ok, have a play and let me know if anything looks funny 05.07.03 # two things look funny: 1. scrolling down the item selector goes down only to the second to last item then starts scrolling 05.07.52 # 2. same as last when scrolling up,but only goes up to the 3rd from top item and then starts scrolling 05.07.56 # how far did it used to go? 05.08.05 # niiko: Not that recent, see the MajorChanges wiki page 05.08.43 # if I remember correctly, i think it goes all the way to the last item, but i had better check 05.08.52 # it shouldnt have... 05.09.03 # iirc its always meant to be 2 or 3 off the top/bottom 05.09.08 # they should eb the same though 05.09.10 # ok 05.09.21 # let me check with the current build 05.11.13 Quit mud-rb (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 05.11.45 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 05.12.02 Quit soap (Remote closed the connection) 05.12.54 # ok, never mind about what I said, its functioning correctly, its just been a while since I have used the ipod 05.14.06 Quit webguest73 ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 05.15.04 Join soap [0] (n=soap@cpe-65-189-128-141.columbus.res.rr.com) 05.15.09 # no oddness with the colours? 05.16.05 # not on the ipod mini 05.16.16 # haven't tried the gigabeat yet 05.16.54 # good good... 05.17.11 # * JdGordon wonders if he can get soap and Llorean to test 8457 05.20.37 # will the official build of rockbox not accept album art with the filname "folder.bmp"? 05.20.45 # cover.bmp 05.20.54 # alright, thanks 05.21.14 # http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/AlbumArt 05.21.25 # for more information on naming/location 05.22.28 # JdGordon, will do - tomorrow 05.22.41 # Thanks, I was looking at it already but I wasn't clear on whether "cover" was the required name if I wasn't going to go with the other options... basically I was wondering if, failing everything else, it would look for any picture in the direction with the current song 05.22.45 Quit tedrock (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 05.22.48 Join tedr0ck [0] (n=tedrock@d235-159-75.home1.cgocable.net) 05.23.14 # soap: ok, although I'd really like to get it commited soon, tonight even... 05.23.47 # JdGordon: Problem on Gigabeat F 05.24.03 # icons do not line up with items in list 05.25.12 Join HellDragon [0] (i=jd@unaffiliated/helldragon) 05.25.27 # JdGordon, it's 11:30pm here - I gotta get to sleep - there is no way I can do it until 18 hours from now :( 05.25.52 # it also shows the scrollbar under the icons 05.29.04 Join troublehelix [0] (n=win@adsl-75-23-154-164.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) 05.29.09 # hi people =) 05.29.27 # hello washington! 05.29.32 # brb 05.29.59 # Sorry, reading the guidelines. brb. 05.32.25 # * scorche suddenly falls in love with troublehelix 05.32.25 Quit markun (card.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 05.32.25 NSplit card.freenode.net irc.freenode.net 05.32.25 Quit ctaylorr (card.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 05.32.25 Quit ndim (card.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 05.32.25 Quit crwll (card.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 05.32.25 Quit sneakums (card.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 05.32.25 Quit Isolinear (card.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 05.32.25 Quit Kohlrabi (card.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 05.32.25 Quit z35 (card.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 05.32.25 Quit Klowner (card.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 05.32.25 Quit jurrie (card.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 05.32.25 Quit Rob2222 (card.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 05.32.25 Quit hcs (card.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 05.32.25 Quit cool_walking_ (card.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 05.32.25 Quit fxb__ (card.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 05.32.25 Quit hachi (card.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 05.32.25 Quit Horscht (card.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 05.32.25 Quit gibbon_ (card.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 05.32.26 # eek....guess i shouldnt do that too often 05.33.12 NHeal card.freenode.net irc.freenode.net 05.33.12 NJoin ctaylorr [0] (n=ctaylorr@bas1-toronto43-1279529889.dsl.bell.ca) 05.33.12 NJoin ndim [0] (i=hun@moooo.n-dimensional.de) 05.33.12 NJoin crwll [0] (n=crawlie@a88-114-143-95.elisa-laajakaista.fi) 05.33.12 NJoin sneakums [0] (i=sneakums@jenny.ondioline.org) 05.33.12 NJoin fxb__ [0] (n=felixbru@h1252615.stratoserver.net) 05.33.12 NJoin hcs [0] (n=agashlin@rockbox/contributor/hcs) 05.33.12 NJoin Rob2222 [0] (n=Miranda@p4FDCF537.dip.t-dialin.net) 05.33.12 NJoin jurrie [0] (n=jurrie@adsl-068-209-041-021.sip.asm.bellsouth.net) 05.33.12 NJoin Klowner [0] (n=klown@71-217-238-142.dvnp.qwest.net) 05.33.12 NJoin z35 [0] (n=z@149.123.33.65.cfl.res.rr.com) 05.33.12 NJoin gibbon_ [0] (n=joel@195.182.2.234) 05.33.12 NJoin Isolinear [0] (n=A@c-71-236-163-66.hsd1.or.comcast.net) 05.33.12 NJoin hachi [0] (i=hachi@shego.kuiki.net) 05.33.12 NJoin markun [50] (n=markun@rockbox/developer/markun) 05.33.12 NJoin Kohlrabi [0] (n=Kohlrabi@frustrum.nosebud.de) 05.33.18 # Hah. Yea I'm cursed. 05.33.20 # scorche, can I ask you a question over in gsoc? 05.33.20 # troublehelix: sure 05.33.45 Quit Isolinear (Connection timed out) 05.34.19 # So yea, if I'd like to help out, which (inexpensive) players should I be looking at that I can test code on? 05.34.30 Join alienbiker99 [0] (n=alienbik@ool-44c126d4.dyn.optonline.net) 05.35.04 # I have an IRiver T30, but I think it's ancient at this point, and I wouldn't mind having new player. 05.36.16 # troublehelix: the sansa devices are pretty cheap...you just need to make sure you get a v1 05.37.59 # soap: :) 05.38.00 # What happens after v1? 05.38.18 # perrikwp: arg... are the icons larger than the font? 05.38.27 # troublehelix: the v2 devices that sandisk rolled out a few months ago have totally new hardware and a port hasnt been done yet 05.39.47 # troublehelix: you will have the best luck on a refurb (buy.com and woot have been selling them cheaply), however v2s could also be one of the bunch too...i think a few around here might have a v1 they will trade for a v2 though so they can work on the port 05.40.23 # scorche: Noted. You know, I actually borrowed a Sansa something-250 from a friend. 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( http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#privmsg )' 05.49.51 Join joshin_ [0] (n=joshin@VDSL-130-13-243-154.PHNX.QWEST.NET) 05.50.21 # I hope its an easy fix for you 05.50.29 # hopefully this is reproducable in the sim 05.50.38 # I havnt seen this behaviour before 05.50.46 Ctcp Version from freenode-connect!freenode@freenode/bot/connect 05.50.56 # bugger.. sim works fine 05.51.07 # you gonna be around for a while? 05.51.23 # about another hour or so 05.51.36 Join HellDragon_ [0] (i=jd@unaffiliated/helldragon) 05.51.36 Quit HellDragon_ (Client Quit) 05.52.16 # weird thing is that it works fine with the ipod 05.52.20 # righto, ill try finding the bug 05.52.23 # scorche: porting to another platform, porting as an app, or writing / fixing an ARM amulator all sound fun, but to be honest they all sound daunting. 05.52.35 # it looks like something isnt set up corectly on the gigf 05.52.41 # ok 05.53.42 Join mchua [0] (n=mchua@cpe-66-65-114-204.nyc.res.rr.com) 05.59.35 Quit niiko ("Leaving") 06.02.13 # perrikwp: arg, I have absolutly no idea why thats happening 06.03.33 # so it works on every other target? 06.03.44 # even the gigabeat f sim 06.04.53 # yep 06.05.19 # thats odd 06.06.31 # let me try compiling a sim, maybe its something wrong with my local svn, even though I patched a newly clean svn 06.13.16 # ok, now this really weird, the sim works, but the real target doesn't 06.13.28 # oh goody :p 06.16.33 Join argumentD [0] (n=argument@cpe-76-173-115-95.socal.res.rr.com) 06.23.53 Quit jas6180 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 06.26.40 Quit HellDragon (Client Quit) 06.31.02 Quit wisp_sh (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 06.31.53 Join HellDragon [0] (i=jd@unaffiliated/helldragon) 06.35.18 # JdGordon: I noticed another problem, I don't if this related to the patch or not, but when I try to disable icons, they don't go away. This happens in both the sime and the target. 06.44.21 Join lee-qid [0] (n=liqid@p54965376.dip.t-dialin.net) 06.54.27 Quit tedr0ck (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 07.11.48 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 07.12.46 # perrikwp: ah yes, fixing 07.16.06 Quit midgey () 07.20.06 Join LinusN [0] (n=linus@rockbox/developer/LinusN) 07.20.39 # well, I least one thing can be fixed 07.21.08 # and has been, ill update the patch in a few min 07.21.17 Join ol_schoola [0] (n=meatwad@c-67-167-20-91.hsd1.il.comcast.net) 07.21.25 # well, I can't test 07.21.48 # now, have to get to sleep, class in 8 hours 07.22.56 # hopefully you will find the other bug and also get that fixed too, good luck! 07.24.51 Nick perrikwp is now known as perrikwp|zzz (i=98214a13@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-8c45aa5556d0ceb7) 07.26.18 Quit lee-qid (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 07.36.29 Quit troublehelix ("Ex-Chat") 07.41.09 Join wisp_sh [0] (n=wisp@acct.icf.org.ru) 07.49.56 Part toffe82 08.03.41 Join 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08.42.29 # what do you want to know? 08.43.13 Quit |AhIoRoS| (Connection timed out) 08.43.16 # what could cause http://student.elon.edu/kperri/2.bmp on target.. 08.43.30 # sim works fine as does it work on every other target 08.43.52 # the icons are not aligned to the text row whcih is should be 08.44.19 # I can't think of anything right now 08.44.27 # JdGordon: Is this with viewports? 08.45.31 # yeah 08.45.33 # The Gigabeat has an asm-optimised lcd_bitmap_transparent_part() - looks like a bug there... 08.45.48 # I was scared it would be something like that :( 08.46.05 # there goes my plan of commiting in the next few days 08.46.32 # linuxstb_: Is that one from before viewports? 08.46.49 # Looks like it simply doesn't take account of viewports... 08.47.07 # amiconn: Yes 08.49.12 # * amiconn wonders why the gigabeat has that 08.49.25 # to get an extra 0.01%? 08.49.50 # The gigabeat, of all things, which is overpowered anyway.... 08.50.24 Quit magicthree (Connection timed out) 08.50.33 # Alos, gcc is quite good at optimising that kind of loops for arm (unlike other architectures) 08.51.17 Quit Llorean (Connection timed out) 08.51.36 # amiconn: I've always wondered the same, but never got around to benchmarking it to prove we can remove it (or implement it for other targets) 08.51.36 # so, can it be disabled untill fixed? 08.52.26 # It's trivial to fix, I'm doing it now. 08.52.33 # sweet, thanks 08.53.14 # are there any objections to commiting the list viewport patch without any customizability? 08.53.30 # * JdGordon fairyl sure there are no bugs left 08.53.49 # linuxstb_: I didn't even know that the gigabeat has that optimisation, until today.... 08.54.03 Quit pondlife (Connection timed out) 08.54.36 # I'm sure we've discussed it before... 08.55.02 # amiconn: any chance youll be able to test 8457 on your player sometime soonish? 08.56.18 # * JdGordon back in 20 08.58.16 # JdGordon: i think removing the customizability was a smart move 09.01.47 Quit thegeek_ (Success) 09.04.28 Join Mathiasdm [0] (n=Mathias@vpne199.ugent.be) 09.07.08 Join petur [50] (n=petur@rockbox/developer/petur) 09.11.53 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 09.12.58 # LinusN: although, its only ifdefed out.. unless I should pull the whole lot? 09.13.07 # * JdGordon would rather keep the code there 09.14.10 Join pondlife [50] (n=Steve@rockbox/developer/pondlife) 09.18.28 # JdGordon: personally, i would prefer to only commit live code 09.19.10 # i kind of like iterative development 09.32.53 Join Zagor [242] (n=bjst@46.35.227.87.static.tab.siw.siwnet.net) 09.40.00 # I would agree with LinusN - SVN will just get very messy if people commit code which isn't enabled/finished. 09.41.02 # 8457 has been updated, with the unused code removed, would really like to commit this... 09.41.58 # LinusN: can you cange a wiki account for me? 09.42.08 # RikaRika to NikitaDev 09.43.23 # JdGordon: What's the binsize change? 09.43.56 # havnt checked 09.46.36 Join cg [0] (n=cromos@88.193.143.80) 09.46.47 # 500 bytes on rec 09.49.11 # That seems a lot - why is the code so much more complex than currently? 09.50.54 # im hoping some of that is the viewport utility functions which I've added (nb lines and setup defaults) 09.51.42 # * JdGordon has a gander at the .map 09.51.54 # Could someone who knows document the viewport API on http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/ViewPorts ? 09.52.27 # Not the innards, just the API 09.52.41 # pondlife: This page describes (approximately) how they work - http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/ViewPortsDesign 09.52.50 # viewport.o only comes to 0x8c length 09.53.03 # 140 bytes 09.53.04 # Yes, but no API. 09.53.08 # pondlife: But I agree a formal API doc would be useful - I'll try and do it. 09.53.28 # I'd like to see a lot of API documentation... might start on it 09.53.43 # Very simple - one line per routine/property 09.53.56 # (or one paragraph, rather) 09.54.48 # markun: try now 09.55.37 # LinusN: thanks 09.56.12 # LinusN: Are we supposed to have only real names on the wiki? 09.56.16 # yes 09.56.20 # I suspect http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/CanonInteger isn't one 09.56.33 # pondlife: yes, we have hundreds of those 09.57.01 # those are spam attempts 09.57.15 # Why not remove them? 09.57.21 # BuyCheapAdipexOnline for example 09.57.30 # in http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/TWikiUsers 09.57.33 # because i have a life 09.57.37 # hehe 09.57.38 # believe it or not 09.57.47 # I'd do it if I could 09.58.01 # i am working on a script that makes this easier 09.58.03 # But maybe it's pointless 09.58.34 # the extra drawing logic for the viewport handling is only 200 bytes... 09.58.45 # * JdGordon not sure where the last 150 is 09.58.55 # the plan is to regularly remove old users that haven't contributed 09.59.09 # my script finds those 10.00.26 # all that is left is the actual removal of the users 10.01.11 # btw, work has begun on a completely new twiki 10.01.38 # Planning to move over only checked content? 10.01.45 # What do you mean by completely new? 10.02.27 Join skbohra [0] (n=bijolian@117.199.112.81) 10.02.54 # pondlife: we'll see 10.03.00 # i am interested in rockbox for gsoc 2008 10.03.15 # linuxstb_: a new version of twiki, with added features 10.03.24 # LinusN: But same content? 10.03.34 # any body else 10.03.35 # skbohra: Welcome. Do you have any projects in mind? 10.03.41 # Ah, I misunderstood... 10.03.42 # linuxstb_: yes 10.04.26 # linuxstb_ : i am totally new to rockbox but i am loving it i am passionate about it 10.04.46 # skbohra: If you're serious, we would suggest you download the Rockbox source code and start getting involved now. That will give you a big advantage when it comes to assessing applications. 10.05.27 # ok can u give me the link to source code 10.06.20 # alrighty, unless anyone is actually going to look at the patch today I'm going to commit it.. ok? 10.06.31 # skbohra: Use SVN - http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/SimpleGuideToCompiling 10.06.33 # A tarball is on the same download page as the binaries, or you can get it via SVN - http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/UsingSVN 10.06.47 Join Gibbed [0] (i=rick@pool-71-189-11-16.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) 10.06.49 Quit Rick (Nick collision from services.) 10.07.03 Nick Gibbed is now known as Rick (i=rick@pool-71-189-11-16.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) 10.08.30 # JdGordon: Are there any visible changes, or is it all behind-the-scenes? 10.08.54 # unless there are bugs I've missed (i dont tinhk so anymore) users wont see any change 10.09.03 # maybe a pixel or two off from svn... nothing major 10.09.50 # Then I say go for it... 10.10.06 # We can always revert ;) 10.10.11 # nd hope for nice deltas... 10.10.13 # (sorry, bad joke) 10.10.26 # pondlife: Yes, JdGordon will be sleeping soon... 10.10.40 # :D 10.10.50 # na, its only 8pm here... 4 hours at least to fix bugs 10.11.06 # There are some skilled people discussing the Meizu M6 port on meizume.com. I which they would post their info on the rockbox forums, but maybe I shouldn't care. 10.11.14 Join tvelocity [0] (n=tony@85.72.190.175) 10.11.17 # JdGordon: So you're not coming over to London on Thursday night? We arm-wrestle for red delta allowances. 10.11.26 # man, i wish i could come 10.12.17 # I kept losing and my punishment seems to be getting auto-dir change to work properly. 10.12.52 # * linuxstb_ is looking forward to seeing Shotofadd's D2 port 10.13.04 # * pondlife too 10.13.18 # thats why I want to finish up this viewport patch.... I want to fix up playlist so playback doesnt know when the playlist ends (because it never would) so this auto change nonsense would be removed 10.13.35 # .. i mean, playlist would handle that automagically, playback would be out of the picture 10.13.43 # Indeed. 10.13.56 # I'd still like to know why Lear changed playback.c for a bookmark fix. 10.14.09 # But I seem to be in a different time zone to him 10.14.19 # because playback is the basterd child which seems to get his grubby hands in everything! 10.14.20 # I'm sure it's a weakness in the playback API 10.14.37 # We have a playback API? ;) 10.14.42 # hehe 10.14.43 # JdGordon: you want the playlist to regenerate itself when changing directory? 10.15.06 # * linuxstb_ had better go to work 10.15.12 Quit linuxstb_ ("Leaving") 10.15.14 # * markun too 10.15.16 # sort of... I'm thinking a playlist which just keeps adding tracks automatically when a track is requested past the end 10.15.44 # my problem is dealing with the filename buffer when its near full but the playlist is almost finished 10.15.58 # I'd like playlists to be majorly revised. The connection between STOP and playback clearing is a pain... 10.16.01 # need to fiddle without stopping playback to move pointers around 10.16.34 # Generation of a new playlist should occur only when playback is explicitly started - i.e. the browsers should do it. 10.16.55 # of course, all this is only for when non stop playback is on... 10.17.24 # isnt that how it happens now? 10.17.29 # JdGordon: It would be nice if this could allow next track info to work across directories too 10.17.32 # Not quite 10.17.37 # It's a bit murky 10.18.06 # Probably just the UI, but I don't think I can stop playback then edit the current playlist 10.18.54 # Insert starts playback for example 10.18.56 Quit Mathiasdm ("Yuuw!") 10.19.00 # it would fix next track info across directories 10.19.24 # * JdGordon not convinced insert shouldnt start playback 10.19.34 # but yeah, I think thats more a UI thing 10.19.40 # And it clears the playlist too 10.20.25 # The "dynamic playlist" warning is inconsisent, so that doesn't help totally 10.20.54 # the whole playback UI needs reworking as well.. 10.21.19 # maybe all that is needed is an option "start playback on insert" and a "clear playlist" option? 10.22.00 # Maybe, but I'd like to think it's possible without an option. 10.22.04 Join convil [0] (n=chatzill@218.188.7.110) 10.22.17 # That usabillity study idea for GSoC perhaps? 10.23.42 # a usability study from GSoC would be an amazing project 10.24.00 # although, the result may not be very fun to fix up :p 10.24.13 # Hopefully it would result in simplification... 10.24.40 # * petur feels usability studies always end up being very much influenced by personal taste 10.24.49 # petur: amen 10.25.22 # in exactly the same way that some people deem some features "useless" 10.25.23 # could be a topic for devcon though ;) 10.27.32 # changing topics slightly... cabbiev2 should be renamed in the zip... probably to rockbox_defauit and the current rockbox_default should be rockbox_simple or something 10.37.04 # * JdGordon surprised to see cabbie doesnt enable the icons in the cfg 10.38.25 Join linuxstb [0] (n=linuxstb@rockbox/developer/linuxstb) 10.39.13 Join gevaerts [0] (n=fg@rockbox/developer/gevaerts) 10.40.06 # JdGordon: Don't forget FILES when you commit ;) 10.40.25 # thanks for the reminder 10.40.38 # * JdGordon was being a good boy and fixing 80 car width 10.41.39 # whats the command to fix the svn keywords? 10.41.44 # Check UsingSVN 10.43.27 # grrr.... but at least I now know where to find that damn command 10.55.19 # always good to hear things like: "Well that makes sense, but I removed Gigabeat Room and went to Rockbox. It was easy to install, and the new found freedom and flexibility makes the Gigabeat a fantastic player." 11.00.14 # * amiconn would expect a binsize decrease from using viewports in almost all places... :/ 11.01.05 # * JdGordon wonders why 11.01.15 # vp adds a layer to the drawing... 11.02.09 Join axionix_ [0] (n=axion@cpe-74-70-239-192.nycap.res.rr.com) 11.04.59 # vp should help to weed the conditionals that are scattered all over the gui drawing code now (like "if (statusbar_is_enabled) add_this_offset" "if (icons_enabled) add_that_offset" etc) 11.05.11 # weed out even 11.05.34 Quit mchua (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 11.05.45 # is the build time estimation bad or does it just take very long this time? 11.06.23 # the previous commits hadnt been "big" 11.06.31 # should i need an ipod to test rockbox 11.06.40 # amiconn: yeah. but that still happens and there is more struct assignemtns now 11.06.50 # skbohra: No, you can use any target, or the simulator 11.07.17 # ok 11.07.30 # JdGordon: Red... 11.07.48 # Although, just a bit 11.08.01 # arg, lame 11.08.12 # and im not freeking colourblind, nor am i running off... 11.08.24 # hehe 11.08.29 # and its _my_ target anyway so no big deal 11.08.45 # * JdGordon will get to that shortly 11.10.23 Quit axionix (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 11.11.03 # hehe the colour targets copped a beating! 11.11.13 Quit spiorf (Remote closed the connection) 11.11.56 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 11.11.58 # Maybe you can make that smaller?? 11.12.08 # :) 11.17.55 Part skbohra 11.19.04 # JdGordon: No increase for the Player is interesting... 11.19.14 # * JdGordon smiles at the sudden realisation that the touchpad code got simple :) 11.19.24 # amiconn: viewports are totally ignored for charcell 11.19.32 # Oh, why?? 11.19.50 # Viewports are also about code unification, imo.... 11.20.10 # 1) I dont have a player and cant be bothered trying to debug it in the sim, 2) I felt it was a massive waste with the 2 lines 11.20.24 # if you want to merge it back in with te bitmap code then go for it 11.21.10 # vp is about code unification, but the amount of #ifdef HAVE_LCD_BITMAP in the drawing funcitons would have been rediculously annoying 11.21.20 # huh? 11.22.23 # Ideally there would be no such ifdef in the gui functions, except some very special places like the actual icon drawing 11.22.58 # well, yes it could have, but that would waste heaps of bin 11.23.30 Join Thundercloud [0] (n=thunderc@resnet03.nat.lancs.ac.uk) 11.23.45 # all the title drawing code, colouring, line counting.. and then when bitmap gets customizing... not fun 11.25.30 # Colouring needs to be optional anyway 11.28.43 # * amiconn doesn't like this "lets make a special case" way of getting back with less thinking 11.29.03 # It makes things less flexible and *will* hit us later 11.33.19 Quit linuxstb (Remote closed the connection) 11.33.26 Join linuxstb [0] (n=linuxstb@rockbox/developer/linuxstb) 11.35.41 # JdGordon: Did you test changing the UI colours? 11.35.44 # (in the settings) 11.36.31 # no, I purposly left that for a seperate commit 11.39.01 # those settings are not the rgb hex value are they? they are just 0-128 (or whatever?) 11.39.19 # * amiconn thinks apps/gui/ should have no "bitmap" and "charcell" subfolders. That needs to be fixed - the sooner, the better 11.40.01 # JdGordon: That was my way of reporting a bug - if you change the colour settings, they are not reflected in the UI (apart from the status bar) until the next reboot. 11.40.17 # * JdGordon put them there purposly to replace apps/recorder and apps/player 11.40.50 # oh, your takling colour targets? 11.41.08 # Of course, why else would i mention the word "colour" ? 11.41.59 # I thought you were taling about greyscale for some reason :p 11.44.29 # fixed 11.45.10 # * JdGordon makes a not to fix settings_apply() tomorow to allow partial apply 11.45.48 # JdGordon: Those should be renamed, and some stuff moved out of them 11.46.10 # they should be moved into gui 11.46.17 # which is where all actual gui code should be... 11.46.52 # In fact, the only things which should remain there is bitmap loading, the target specific part of icon handling, and *maybe* the vkeyboard 11.47.17 # But the vkeyboard being different is mostly because of screensize, not a bitmap vs. charcell issue 11.47.50 # Radio and recording should be moved out there 11.48.00 Join goffa [0] (n=goffa@216.220.23.105) 11.48.12 # * JdGordon agrees 11.48.41 # the apps/ folder needs to be discussed at devcon i rekon 11.48.46 # the thing is a mess 11.52.32 # how can we handle charcell in a generic way in for example list.c? 11.53.45 # afaiu, list.c uses 3 viewports, of which 2 are to be ignored on the charcell targets 11.53.46 # how its done now.. list.c is split into drawing and movement/logic, which is the way I tihnk all screens should be coded 11.54.31 # an mvc approach? 11.55.24 # *quick check on wikipedia*... yeah 11.56.39 # :-) 11.58.03 # Which 2 viewports need to be ignored? 11.58.13 # I can only think of one - the scrollbar 11.58.13 # the scrollbar and the status bar 11.58.24 # eh, the title 11.58.37 # Ah, yes, the title 11.58.59 # But since the title is optional on bitmap as well, there shouldn't be a big difference 11.59.08 # and aren't the icons separate too? 11.59.18 # Charcell has list icons 11.59.52 # Just that the code that optionally inserts title can be ifdefed out on charcell, but not because it's charcell, rather because it's just 2-line 12.00.42 # so it's still ok to have charcell #ifdef's in the list code? 12.01.08 # or do you think it all should be handled at the viewport level? 12.01.53 # Ideally there should be no literal #ifdef charcell in the list code, but rather just a few that can be used to disable optional features (like the list title) 12.02.04 # in fact, i do think charcell is a special case nowadays 12.02.31 # I can imagine that the mrobe remote will have list titles permanently disabled too 12.02.41 # That's bitmap - but only 79x16 pixels 12.03.06 # yes, but thats the 2nd display so the code will need to be thee anyway 12.03.53 # Yes, but then that even means some extra code (main lcd supports optional title, remote lcd will have it always disabled) 12.04.58 Quit goffa_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 12.05.01 # ? no extra code... the code to decide weather to display the title is used on all screens now 12.05.29 # ok 12.06.33 # I don't understand what would be fundamentally different in list drawing between charcell and bitmap that warrants 2 separate implementation 12.06.57 # There's just a couple of (small) options that charcell doesn't have 12.07.02 # * JdGordon was trying to keep it simple 12.07.18 # Everything else should be identical 12.07.27 # * amiconn is also trying to keep things simple 12.08.40 Quit convil ("ChatZilla 0.9.81 [Firefox 2.0.0.12/2008020121]") 12.08.46 # * gevaerts points out that an object-oriented language would sove this, then runs and hides 12.09.21 # not everything of OO is bad, you know 12.09.22 # we should use python! 12.09.40 # * petur hits JdGordon with a beer bottle 12.09.46 # :) 12.09.53 # * gevaerts assumes that this was an empty bootle 12.09.56 Join scone [0] (n=79d2996f@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-f574cbd877fd4b54) 12.09.56 # thought you were a snake 12.10.08 # gevaerts: of course 12.12.18 # hey guys i was hopeing you could help me with this problem, yesterday i installed rockbox on my 5.5g 80gb ipod and all was fine, and i could switch between ipod firmware and rockbox by using the hold button/reset method. after that i installed a theme using ipodwizard, and now i can't boot back into rockbox even when ive reset the ipod. The rockbox files are still on the ipod in the .rockbox folder 12.13.31 # and by theme i mean a theme on the ipod firmware, not a rockbox theme. 12.13.46 # You'll need to reinstall the Rockbox bootloader - ipodwizard probably overwrote it. 12.15.08 # Will that overwrite what i've done with ipodwizard? Im not sure how this works, does rockbox actually modify the ipod firmware or does it create its own with minimal change to the ipod fw? 12.15.45 # The Rockbox bootloader is appended to the end of the ipod firmware, and the ipod told to run that first, instead of the ipod firmware. 12.16.14 # So in effect Rockbox will replace the existing firmware with a combination of that firmware and the bootloader. 12.16.58 # Okay cool so it shouldn't affect my theme. If your wondering why i care about the ipod theme, it's because i really just want to use Rockboy, and not the media features. thanks for your help. 12.19.21 Quit scone ("CGI:IRC") 12.28.08 # JdGordon: I'm trying to understand how your implementation is working... Is the list_draw() function called every time the user moves in the list? 12.28.09 # * petur votes to remove rockboy :) 12.28.41 # yes 12.29.03 # So why is the viewport initialisation in there? 12.29.36 # isnt it in list_init? 12.32.28 # I'm talking about all the code in list_draw that sets up the various viewports - I thought it would just draw into pre-arranged viewports 12.32.49 # Similarly, the title shouldn't need redrawing every time the user moves in the list. 12.37.20 # hmm.. /me sleepy 12.37.29 # but yeah, that could be fixed up 12.38.18 Join Arathis [0] (n=doerk@p508A7BF5.dip.t-dialin.net) 12.38.48 Join fasmaie [0] (n=yohann@c-98-216-170-85.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) 12.39.51 Nick JdGordon is now known as JdGordon|zzz (n=jonno@rockbox/developer/JdGordon) 12.43.35 Quit pikhq (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 12.46.25 Join axionix [0] (n=axion@cpe-74-70-239-192.nycap.res.rr.com) 12.59.09 Quit axionix_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 13.00.01 Join ch4os_ [0] (n=ch4os@unaffiliated/ch4os/x-059673) 13.05.28 Join skbohra [0] (n=bijolian@117.199.112.81) 13.08.23 Part skbohra 13.09.19 Join skbohra [0] (n=bijolian@117.199.112.81) 13.11.57 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 13.14.47 # "The Olympus m:robe 100 finds new life with Rockbox" 13.14.51 # http://www.dapreview.net/news.php?item.4241.5 13.18.48 Join roolku [0] (n=roolku@77-99-112-231.cable.ubr16.edin.blueyonder.co.uk) 13.19.32 # Bagder: The port started "years back" ? 13.19.46 # haha, yeah so they claim... 13.21.03 # We don't offer builds yet though? 13.21.27 # not officially no, but they are on the download server 13.22.01 # I think we just wait for a manual build 13.22.27 # Nice to see that blank square filled in on the current build download table... 13.22.37 Part skbohra 13.22.41 # indeed! 13.23.25 # What do you think about moving the source download to the top-left? I think people may miss it at the end. 13.23.56 # sounds like a good idea 13.25.11 # We don't recommend using tarballs anyway, do we? 13.25.12 # reload and have a look 13.25.38 # no we don't but some people can't reach svn from where they are 13.25.43 # Hmm, it splits the Archos targets though... 13.25.54 # and the irivers... 13.26.12 # Maybe revert... 13.26.24 # yeah 13.26.59 # let's add two new targets as then it'll go more to the left in the next row! ;-) 13.28.42 # JdGordon|zzz: (for the logs, unless you're reading in your sleep) - now you've added settings_apply() to the colour setting functions, you don't need to explicitly set the colour in those functions - it's done inside settings_apply() (so you can reclaim a little green...) 13.30.53 Join skbohra [0] (n=bijolian@117.199.112.81) 13.31.15 # any body tell where could i find source code for rockbox 13.31.52 # skbohra: That's a Google summer-of-code qualification task.... 13.31.57 # ;) 13.32.03 # hahaha 13.32.04 # amiconn: i've been looking at the sg_modes errors. I can't reproduce them with sg_modes -e /dev/sdc, but I can with sg_modes -e --hex /dev/sdc. Thing is, I get exactly the same on the OF and a random flash drive here. The traces also look similar on all of them. 13.32.05 # * Zagor faints 13.32.28 # i got it :) 13.32.41 # now i m qualified i guess 13.32.57 # Oh no, there are many more tasks we can invent... 13.33.16 # Next one would be compiling 13.33.33 # yes exaclty 13.33.57 # i got a .rockbox folder 13.34.22 # with so many folders in it 13.34.30 # like "compile the test_fps plugin, run it and post the results on the rockbox-dev list" ... 13.35.45 # "Top Tips March 2008" 13.35.50 # => http://www.custompc.co.uk/howtos/walkthru/601926/top-tips-march-2008/page1.html 13.36.09 # is it for me 13.36.13 # no 13.36.16 # for everyone! 13.36.24 # ok 13.36.48 # i will be applying for rockbox ! 13.36.51 # for sure 13.36.52 # * gevaerts already tried this "rockbox" thing 13.37.24 # And I'm still thinking about investing in new players ! 13.37.47 # a fair amount of Rockbox targets is healthy! 13.38.04 # * linuxstb isn't sure Mrs linuxstb agrees with that 13.38.15 # i m trying it with simulator 13.38.29 # * gevaerts doesn't have that problem ;) 13.38.40 # skbohra: Do you have any devices Rockbox runs on? 13.38.42 # I don't ask mrs Linuxstb either! 13.38.49 # :-P 13.39.03 Join pondlif1 [0] (n=Steve@cpc1-rdng11-0-0-cust362.winn.cable.ntl.com) 13.40.07 # i have a mp3 player 13.40.41 # but i have not tried on it 13.40.51 # What mp3 player is it? 13.41.12 # its a creative mp3 player 13.41.56 # * gevaerts thinks of another SoC test : describing which exact player you have 13.42.21 # "Creative" is a brand 13.42.43 Join agm3nt [0] (n=opera@bartek.tu.kielce.pl) 13.42.51 # skbohra: Exactly... 13.43.01 # Exactly. That doesn't tell much about rockbox compatibility 13.43.32 Quit fasmaie (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 13.44.12 # lemme me check .. 13.48.29 # creative fx 120, its not worth talking i know 13.49.34 # will it work on it 13.50.07 # not unless you work on making it happen 13.51.03 # ok 13.52.51 # where should i start from 13.53.21 # rockbox.org/wiki/NewPort 13.53.59 Quit pondlife (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 13.54.26 # ok 13.59.31 # it looks like very challenging task 13.59.41 # it is 14.02.13 # very very 14.02.32 # i should start from some easier task 14.02.35 # like? 14.03.54 # :) 14.04.48 # Rockbox is about 6 years old - all the easy tasks have been taken... 14.05.11 # What, like getting SWCODEC playback to be reliable? 14.06.38 # skbohra: Seriously, you should probably try and buy a player Rockbox runs on, start using it, find things you want to change, and change them... 14.07.10 Join midgey [0] (n=tjross@westquad-188-46.reshall.umich.edu) 14.07.38 # i will do that 14.08.31 # suggest me one in my budget $75 14.08.56 # Possibly a Gigabeat F from ebay 14.09.09 # ok i will see 14.09.23 # skbohra: One warning : once you start fixing something, you'll find other things that need fixing, which will lead to other things, so you can't actually ever use that player to listen to anything, since you're always testing 14.09.34 # * gevaerts knows that from experience 14.09.46 # should i use simulator for develpoing purpose 14.09.55 # * linuxstb finds Rockbox does everything he wants, and has done for years 14.11.07 # skbohra: that very much depends on what you are working on. If it's user interface or general playback related, you can use the simulator, but hardware-stuff (like USB work) requires hardware 14.11.33 # Hmm, should we allow a D2 into a Tower yet...? 14.11.51 # is it for me? 14.12.00 Quit Seedy ("cu, Andre") 14.12.02 # pondlif1: Of course... I'll be bringing my "targets" as well. 14.12.06 Join Seed [0] (i=ben@bzq-84-108-237-178.cablep.bezeqint.net) 14.12.34 # * linuxstb could probably build his own Tower-of-not-Rockbox :( 14.12.34 # Maybe we need to do 2 Towers.. one current and one for the future 14.12.46 # skbohra: if you ever meet other rockbox developers in person, yes. See http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/TowerOfRockbox 14.13.34 # * gevaerts looks forward to that. Building towers is fun 14.14.04 Part pondlif1 14.17.57 # its a great tradition 14.18.55 # rock box tower 14.19.48 # may be i'll be making mine one day 14.19.54 Nick fxb__ is now known as fxb (n=felixbru@h1252615.stratoserver.net) 14.20.22 # * gevaerts thinks that using a dock to stabilize the players is cheating 14.20.40 Quit Zarggg (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 14.21.52 # That reminds me... the christmas Tower of Rockbox there is still only 93% rockbox 14.23.24 # skbohra: This seems a good price for a Gigabeat F40 - http://cgi.ebay.com/Toshiba-Gigabeat-F40-40GB-Mobile-MP3-Player_W0QQitemZ320224581672QQihZ011QQcategoryZ73839QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem 14.23.44 Join pondlife [50] (n=Steve@rockbox/developer/pondlife) 14.23.55 # (assuming you're in the US, Canada or UK...) 14.24.06 # but i m from india 14.25.19 # still i m checking it 14.26.38 # * linuxstb is almost tempted at that price 14.27.39 # i think i will get one from local shop 14.28.13 # I haven't build a tower of rockbox yet, but I can stack things : http://www.evonet.be/~gevaerts/bottles.jpg 14.28.15 # None of the players Rockbox works on are manufactured any more, so they're not easy to find in shops. 14.28.45 # ! 14.28.52 # gevaerts: milk bottles??? 14.29.03 # * linuxstb wonders if petur is triggered by "bottle" 14.29.10 # petur: that was what the bet was about 14.29.53 # some of us must be working on newer products 14.30.16 # Yes, but a new port takes a long time - so by the time Rockbox is working, the player isn't available any more. 14.30.25 # (in general...) 14.30.53 # i think we need more contributors to solve this problem 14.31.18 # i myself come to know about rockbox only through gsoc 14.31.51 Join nplus [0] (n=nplus@141.25.Globcom.Net) 14.32.19 # i m getting excited about working on this project 14.32.23 Join jcollie [0] (n=jcollie@161.210.56.5) 14.34.58 Quit desowin () 14.37.19 Join TheBashar [0] (n=User@adsl-75-31-137-24.dsl.irvnca.sbcglobal.net) 14.38.02 Join skbohra_ [0] (n=bijolian@117.199.112.81) 14.38.48 # * linuxstb reads the "broken D2 thread" and would like to answer, but not sure where in the forums that thread belongs (but feels it does belong somewhere, as tcctool is a Rockbox tool...) 14.39.24 # skbohra is now skbohra_ 14.39.42 # :) 14.40.54 # there is some problem here with connection! 14.42.10 # i will apply as a student in gsoc 2008 14.42.21 # skbohra: time to register your nick and learn a bit about irc 14.42.40 # i guess i will be 14.43.25 # :) 14.44.40 # i m starting play with source code soon 14.46.21 # rockbox for every player 14.48.44 # what is needed to be selected in gsoc as a student application, 14.49.04 Join nicktastique [0] (n=nick@unaffiliated/nicktastic) 14.49.50 # response? 14.49.57 # 1) Patience... 14.50.26 # ok i m waiting 14.50.50 # 2) passion ! 14.51.54 # Well, the people that were chosen last year all came up with good, useful project ideas, and showed an understanding of the issues involved in implementing them. 14.52.43 Quit skbohra (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 14.54.44 # i have just started looking at the project 14.57.51 Quit kushal_12_27_200 ("This computer has gone to sleep") 14.58.27 # i am also having ideas i hate itunes 14.58.33 # * petur thinks that when we get selected for GSoC, students should prove to be able to compile rockbox and create simple modifications before getting accepted. 14.58.57 # must draft some rules... 14.59.37 # i will be doing that in time 14.59.58 Join desowin [0] (n=desowin@atheme/developer/desowin) 15.00.04 # skbohra_: nothing personal, I was just talking in general 15.00.22 Quit tvelocity (Remote closed the connection) 15.00.37 # :) 15.00.50 # it applies to me as well i know 15.01.14 Join mf0102 [0] (n=michi@85.127.180.200) 15.02.04 # i would love hack into source code as soon as possible 15.02.15 # Then start now... 15.02.29 # no time like the present 15.02.39 # just downloading the source code.. 15.03.02 # unless you're at work :( 15.03.15 # amen 15.03.16 # * GodEater looks round and realises he is at work too 15.04.29 # internet speed here sucks! 15.06.11 Join Horscht [0] (n=Horscht@xbmc/user/horscht) 15.06.13 Join LambdaCalculus37 [0] (n=44a0430f@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-ec8092aae87ff006) 15.07.19 # petur: Rules are good... Not just for the initial selection, but how we plan to assess students and the criteria for success/failure. 15.07.33 # Morning, all! 15.08.16 Join MethoS- [0] (n=clemens@pD955FFD2.dip.t-dialin.net) 15.11.59 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 15.14.58 Join pikhq [0] (n=pikhq@209.248.124.243) 15.16.03 Part TheBashar 15.20.38 Quit JamPSi ("omg") 15.41.04 # morning LambdaCalculus37! 15.42.08 # morning, markun! 15.49.15 # * LambdaCalculus37 has decided to take another try at hunting down the eCos source diffs for the Rio Karma 15.57.41 Join Nico_P [50] (n=nicolas@rockbox/developer/NicoP) 15.58.26 # pondlife: I went to the post office but they didn't have the package... I'll have to go back tomorrow :/ 15.59.34 Quit DaCapn () 16.00.46 # * petur is impressed that postal services in France are actually worse than in Belgium... 16.01.06 # yeah they aren't very good 16.02.23 Join DaCapn [0] (n=dacapn@c-76-105-220-239.hsd1.or.comcast.net) 16.03.30 # Nico_P: Since you were asking, depending on postal services, I should soon have a Gigabeat F, which might/should support USB host. I'm going to try to do something with that. 16.03.46 # gevaerts: nice :) 16.04.36 # For now I have got as far as downloading the specs, so don't expect it next week... 16.07.03 # gevaerts: Good luck with your work. :) 16.09.06 # * gevaerts hopes not to get stuck on too many issues that require reading disassembled OF code 16.09.11 Quit skbohra_ () 16.10.38 # * amiconn reminds gevaerts of the highspeed issue 16.11.23 Part agm3nt 16.11.58 # * gevaerts knows. It would be nice to get that fixed first 16.13.42 # And after Benjamin_L's problems yesterday, I'm not convinced any more that it's only high-speed... 16.14.06 Nick fxb is now known as fxb__ (n=felixbru@h1252615.stratoserver.net) 16.16.45 Join japc [0] (n=japc@194.65.5.235) 16.17.06 Nick fxb__ is now known as fxb (n=felixbru@h1252615.stratoserver.net) 16.17.55 # gevaerts: What do you think it can be, then? 16.21.12 # I think the possible causes are still the same, it's just that I thought that full speed wasn't affected 16.21.47 Quit corevette (Remote closed the connection) 16.22.08 Join corevette [0] (n=corevett@adsl-75-18-210-31.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) 16.23.13 # * LinusN fits an MK1011GAH (100GB, ZIF) in his H140 16.23.24 # The possible causes as far as I see them are : (a) wrong voltage on some regulator output, (b) some missing initialisation magic, or (c) (wild guess, because it doesn't work unboosted) some unexplained clock influence 16.23.53 # * gevaerts wonders what LinusN will call this new model. H200 ? 16.24.01 # whoa \o/ 16.24.03 # LinusN: :O Does it work? 16.24.25 # the USB connection works 16.25.04 # i am formatting it now 16.25.15 # * LambdaCalculus37 waits to hear good news 16.25.31 # LinusN: Does the MK1011 have those nasty largesectors? 16.25.33 # LinusN: but will it fit in the case? 16.25.34 # * XavierGr holds his breath and hopes that LinusN is doing a quick format :P 16.25.45 # amiconn: i don't know :-) 16.25.51 # petur: yes 16.26.09 # LinusN: Good news, might the same work for H340? 16.26.18 # pondlife: not sure 16.26.39 # if it works for H100 I can't guess why it shouldn't for H300 16.26.43 # I'm not familiar with the H140's innards 16.26.44 # the h300 has less space for the hard drive, afaik 16.27.16 # hmm if you remove the padding H300 has more space than H100 16.27.37 # XavierGr: it's not the height, it's the length 16.27.59 # LinusN: Doesn't the adapter add extra length to the overall hard drive? 16.28.08 # LambdaCalculus37: it does 16.28.12 # LinusN: you got the adaptor from the diuscussion in the ml? 16.28.19 # XavierGr: yes 16.29.02 # * LambdaCalculus37 will need backplates from H340s and the shell of an H140 before he can try any of this out 16.30.05 # LambdaCalculus37: that's why I could never stand the idea of buying an Hx20 instead of an Hx40 16.30.44 # XavierGr: you can always to the CF mod, then you even have plenty of space left over 16.30.45 # my H115 is really limited with the smaller case 16.30.57 # s/to/do 16.31.09 # petur: I am thinking to do that with my H115, though it is somewhat expensive 16.31.43 # prices will drop 16.35.43 Quit corevette (Remote closed the connection) 16.36.02 Join corevette [0] (n=corevett@adsl-75-18-210-31.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) 16.36.43 # hope so... a 32GB CF card is prohibitevely expensive, atm it is better to find a single platter disk 16.38.49 # ~140 EUR... 16.39.30 Join toffe82 [0] (n=chatzill@h-74-0-180-178.snvacaid.covad.net) 16.39.52 Quit wisp_sh (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 16.43.07 # XavierGr: When my friend bought the H120 on eBay, that's all they had at the time that he could afford. 16.43.17 # H140s tends to be overly expensive on eBay. 16.43.18 # the big disadvantage is that the OF doesn't like the CF, so you need a HDD if you ever want to flash a new bootloader (unless the h1x0 flashtool also works for h3x0) 16.44.30 Quit sbhsu (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 16.46.27 # It probably doesn't work as-is, e.g. because the flash size is different 16.48.27 # So it needs some work, which should probably be done with having access to a bdm 16.49.19 # :) 16.50.03 Quit Zagor ("Client exiting") 16.50.28 # hehe, rockbox works as-is on it, the sectors are 512 bytes 16.51.00 # Free: 93.1 GB :-D 16.51.15 # Is 100GB the largest ZIF drive easily available or are there larger? 16.52.32 Join n1s [0] (n=nils@nl104-209-105.student.uu.se) 16.53.08 # LinusN: wow, no space problems with the ZIF convertor? 16.53.16 # LinusN: Congrats to your H1100, H200 or however it should be called ;) 16.53.25 Quit mf0102 ("Verlassend") 16.53.33 # * linuxstb is awaiting a large drive (and a working port) for the gigabeast 16.53.52 # markun: not really, i removed the rubber thingy though 16.55.22 # H1A0? 16.55.43 # LinusN: Congrats, where did you get your HD and for how much? Also now that you confirmed that the adapter works maybe it is time to contact the guy from the ml and order a bunch of them? 16.55.43 # * linuxstb got that slightly wrong... 16.55.46 # linuxstb: That works. :) 16.56.17 # LambdaCalculus37: Not really, 100 is 0x64... 16.56.30 # so h164? :D 16.56.37 Join skbohra [0] (n=bijolian@117.199.112.81) 16.56.41 # or rather h0z164 16.56.46 # s/z/x 16.56.53 # * LambdaCalculus37 drinks more coffee 16.57.05 # XavierGr: i got it from a swedish web shop, http://www.dustin.se/DacsaPortal/?ProdID=5010126416 16.58.53 # in case people who are looking to be mentors havent seen it yet... http://code.google.com/p/google-summer-of-code/wiki/AdviceforMentors 16.58.54 # seems cheap considering the prices of 1.8 drives these days 16.59.31 # XavierGr: that's excluding VAT 17.00.27 # scorche: put that link in the wiki, if it isn't there yet 17.04.43 # heh, it fits with the rubber protection too 17.05.11 # * LinusN is happy 17.05.17 Join tvelocity [0] (n=tony@85.72.190.175) 17.05.51 # * scorche|sh adds the student advice link there too 17.06.27 # LinusN: ah the dreaded VAT! 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17.24.53 # so now it's time to get hold of a MK8009GAH and see how that works (1024 byte sectors) 17.25.33 # Looks like there'll be no Meizu M8s under the Xmas tree this year... =/ 17.27.14 Quit Arathis ("Bye, bye") 17.28.04 Join axionix [0] (n=axion@cpe-74-70-239-192.nycap.res.rr.com) 17.28.07 Part LinusN 17.29.08 Join DerDome [0] (n=DerDome@dslb-082-083-203-187.pools.arcor-ip.net) 17.29.22 # amiconn: I didn't see it, but I'm not surprised either 17.29.51 # I thought they had enough confidence to design their own players after the M6.. :( 17.30.56 # markun: And the sad part is that the M6 is a fine little player in its own right, and I thought that they'd continue in that direction. 17.31.05 # is there any photos of the hd adapter used by LinusN 17.31.42 # toffe82: you want to put a 80GB hdd in your X30? :) (or which X do you have?) 17.31.58 # ah wait, no adapter needed for that one 17.33.22 Join sbhsu [0] (n=a6530466@Zion.dorm.au.edu.tw) 17.36.03 # amiconn: btw, I begin to think that there are no chips on the back of the PCB, it's just a very compact design. 17.36.54 # the only thing I don't understand is why thy added the UDA1380 when a lot of sources claim that the SA58700 includes a wolfson core 17.37.10 # maybe it's optional 17.37.15 Join faemir [0] (n=daniel@85-211-114-251.dyn.gotadsl.co.uk) 17.37.31 # I've also seen it with SDRAM included, but the M6 has a separate 16MB SDRAM chip. 17.42.56 Quit XavierGr (Nick collision from services.) 17.43.07 Join XavierGr [0] (n=xavier@rockbox/staff/XavierGr) 17.47.10 # markun: What makes you think the M6 is their design? ;) 17.48.25 # linuxstb: because it's not a direct ipod clone :) 17.51.41 Join Arathis [0] (n=doerk@p508A7BF5.dip.t-dialin.net) 17.52.25 Join kushal_12_27_200 [0] (n=kushal@12.169.180.134) 17.52.26 Quit nplus (Remote closed the connection) 17.52.57 Join nplus [0] (n=nplus@141.25.globcom.net) 17.53.22 Quit linuxstb ("Client Exiting") 17.54.45 Quit kushal_12_27_200 (Client Quit) 17.56.21 Quit XavierGr () 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It seems that it decides (in the event loop) if a card is present by trying to mount it. This is problematic for usb, since (a) it shouln't be mounted at that time, and (b) usb makes it possible to format the card, so it doesn't have to be formatted at insertion. Can't this be handled the same way as in ata_mmc.c ? 18.53.12 # jhMikeS: if it wasn't clear, the problems occur if the user swaps cards while connected. 18.53.38 # * gevaerts hopes that jhMikeS reads the logs... 18.54.13 # * amiconn thinks that should be possible, and not even very difficult 18.55.05 # I have no sansa myself though. Perhaps I can have a look at the weekend 18.55.57 # Shouldn't it be possible for us to use it in little-endian mode though? Unless of course there's a good reason it's running in big-endian mode... 18.56.00 Quit Zom (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 18.56.00 # * amiconn should probably try to concentrate on *one* problem at a time 18.56.08 # I can do the changes, but I can't test on e200, and maybe there's a reason for the difference. 18.56.48 Join Zom [0] (n=zom@h-43-44.A166.cust.bahnhof.se) 18.56.53 # * linuxstb recalls some iriver ARM firmwares which were big-endian, but forgets the CPU 18.57.29 # I don't think there is an important difference. Just the actual port pin is different (A7 instead of L3), and the polarity is inverted 18.59.14 # I actually meant the difference between ata_mmc and ata-c200_e200. It's true that e200 and c200 don't really behave differently there, but maybe there are differences in bouncyness 18.59.33 # * gevaerts should learn to be more clear 19.00.16 # Hm, my e200 didn't reboot properly when I inserted the USB cable (with Rockbox running)... 19.00.28 # Of course the sansa should continue using the gpio interrupt. On SH1 we have to poll (within the tick task) 19.00.32 Nick mchua_away_test is now known as mchua (n=mchua@cpe-66-108-80-238.nyc.res.rr.com) 19.01.08 # Polling would work too, of course, but using the interrupt is better 19.01.15 # Lear: in what way ? 19.01.47 Join Arathis [0] (n=doerk@p508A7BF5.dip.t-dialin.net) 19.02.07 # Froze, with the wheel light on and dark-blue LCD (and no visible text). 19.03.13 # Tried again, and now it worked. 19.03.25 # OK, that's probably not my fault then. This seems to happen occasionally. You might see something on the screen if you put a strong light on it at the correct angle 19.03.42 # linuxstb: 200MHz ARM940T + 120MHz Calmrisc16 + DSP 19.04.45 # Lear: Do you think it's possible that the bookmark fix could be done external to playback.c? 19.04.49 # * Lear wonders why one would want to mix CPUs like that. 19.05.05 # * LambdaCalculus37 thinks that's an unusual combination 19.05.05 # amiconn: the debounce logic in ata_mmc does depend on using the tick task. I'm not sure how easy it is to do this reliably from the interrupt 19.05.14 # pondlife: Which one do you mean? The one where resume didn't work? 19.05.23 # Yes. Not that I've got much against it, but in theory there's no reason for playback to need fixing for a use case like this. 19.05.57 # Or does it fix a more general problem? 19.06.12 # Lear: apperently the Calmrisc is intended for audio decoding 19.06.14 Join gregzx [0] (n=chatzill@drf166.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) 19.06.49 # I'm struggling to get auto dir change fixed, and might need to mod the playback API a bit. Or at least understand what it's meant to do! 19.06.50 Nick mchua is now known as mchua_yum (n=mchua@cpe-66-108-80-238.nyc.res.rr.com) 19.07.56 # markun: So you're going to make it interesting and ignore the ARM? ;) 19.08.08 Join Arathis2 [0] (n=doerk@p508A5FEC.dip.t-dialin.net) 19.08.20 # no way :) 19.08.28 # I will try to make it as boring as possible 19.09.01 # maybe even switch to little-endian in crt0.S ? :) 19.09.10 # * gevaerts finds more code that he probably wrote while being asleep 19.09.36 # markun: Any idea if the calmrisc is big-endian? 19.09.36 Quit Arathis (Nick collision from services.) 19.10.06 # no idea yet 19.10.11 Nick Arathis2 is now known as Arathis (n=doerk@p508A5FEC.dip.t-dialin.net) 19.10.18 # I only disassembled the ARM part 19.10.30 # there is a lot of data of which some might be calmrisc, I didn't check 19.10.34 # Seems it's big-endian according to Bagder - the first google hit for "calmrisc16+endian" ;) 19.10.48 # there are many many firmware files, non of which is encrypted 19.10.49 # Ah now, it's from amiconn... 19.11.31 # s/now/no/ - http://www.rockbox.org/irc/rockbox-20050427.txt - 00.29.26 19.11.53 # Back when calmrisc16 was a Rockbox target. 19.11.54 # preglow suggested we could do just the fft's and mdct's in calmrisc for example 19.12.07 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 19.12.21 # the meizu also plays back monkey audio 19.12.33 # I can do some tests to see how much the DSP helps 19.12.53 # I would be curious to know if it can handle "insane" 19.13.03 # pondlife: But this really looked like a playback problem (not entirely sure why only this triggered it). What happened was that the thread told the codec to stop. Codec returned and the codec thread sent a stop message to the audio thread, then started playing the new track. The audio thread then processed the stop message... 19.13.17 # Ah, ok 19.13.38 # it looks like the Meizu has a bootloader in a 50KB ROM which can use the DFU USB protocol to flash the 1MB flash, so the firmware update should be pretty safe 19.14.14 # I suppose we can't do a normal resume during playback.... 19.14.16 # Nice. Is there some kind of usb-boot mode as well? 19.14.26 # (The first "thread" should be the "audio thread".) 19.14.31 # linuxstb: what do you mean? 19.14.34 # Yep, gotcha 19.14.37 # Thanks 19.14.59 # to load code directly into SDRAM? 19.15.09 # markun: I mean can the 50KB bootloader be used to load data into RAM and run it? 19.15.10 # yes 19.15.24 # no, I don't think so 19.15.46 # in DFU mode only 1 device showed up, which I guess is the 1MB flash 19.16.18 Quit ol_schoola (K-lined) 19.16.50 # it could be SDRAM from which the flashing is done, but my first guess was that it was flash. We'll have to see. 19.17.13 Part pondlife 19.17.23 # to bad the dump function of DFU-Util doesn't work, or else we could see it by looking at the file size. 19.18.19 Join ComposerDude [0] (n=Composer@12-219-101-35.client.mchsi.com) 19.18.56 # ComposerDude: Hi there! 19.19.07 # Is USB-DFU some kind of standard protocol? 19.19.24 # Hello LambdaCalculus37 19.19.37 # linuxstb: yes http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/USB_DFU 19.19.43 # http://www.usb.org/developers/devclass_docs/DFU_1.1.pdf 19.20.04 # markun: You were faster than me. :) 19.20.11 # :) 19.20.31 Quit LambdaCalculus37 ("CGI:IRC") 19.20.46 Join LambdaCalculus37 [0] (n=44a0430f@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-30aa61730a206303) 19.20.46 Join Domonoky [0] (n=Domonoky@e176249096.adsl.alicedsl.de) 19.22.07 # I went searching for rb's svn checkout, and I can't find it. 19.22.31 # ComposerDude: Hang on, I'll get you the link. 19.22.37 # Did you already install Subversion? 19.22.46 # I use tortoise svn. 19.23.00 # Less to think about. 19.23.13 # ComposerDude: take a look at the wiki "UsingSVN" i think 19.23.21 # ComposerDude: svn co svn://svn.rockbox.org/rockbox/trunk rockbox 19.23.22 # Thanks Domonoky 19.23.30 # And be careful about line-endings in your files... 19.23.51 Quit kies (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 19.24.29 # gevaerts: The debouncing would use the single-shot delays it is using now, operating it like a "retriggerable monoflop" 19.24.39 Join kies [0] (n=kies@adsl-76-199-1-132.dsl.chmpil.sbcglobal.net) 19.25.22 # markun: OK, so it seems different to what I was expecting... I hope the flash can take a lot of flashing... 19.25.51 # markun: Is there any encryption or similar hurdles to overcome? 19.26.13 # no encryption. Maybe a checksum somewhere. 19.26.29 # the biggest problem is that we don't have a datasheet of the SoC 19.26.33 # Do you actually have the player yet? 19.26.47 # markun what Soc ? 19.26.54 # amiconn: that would work 19.26.55 # no, it will be ordered this friday 19.26.59 # * linuxstb reads "Movie playback: AVI format" on the Meizu website... 19.27.15 # toffe82: SA58700 / S5L8700 19.27.15 Join XavierGr [0] (n=xavier@rockbox/staff/XavierGr) 19.27.34 # toffe82: are you going to check your russian datasheet sources? :) 19.27.36 # linuxstb: how helpful... 19.27.58 # Meizu ships their player with virtual dub 19.28.32 # some people were talking about rockbox as if it was a step back to play mpeg2 19.28.42 # maybe it is, but just a small one I think 19.29.02 # yes, but how I can find something if smasung syas : The data sheet of this product is either in preparation or is not effective yet. 19.29.28 # markun: I would like to see someone implement mpeg4 playback of some kind - just out of curiousity... 19.29.29 # toffe82: here's some info: http://www.samsung.com/global/business/semiconductor/support/brochures/downloads/systemlsi/audio_decoder_chip_datasheet_051103.pdf 19.30.13 # linuxstb: and let's put our mpeg videos in an AVI container so people stop complaining about the lack of AVI support :) 19.30.50 # ;) 19.33.21 Quit thegeek_ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 19.33.22 # Everyone complains about lack of AVI support as though AVI were a video codec itself. 19.33.32 # Doesn't anyone know that AVI is merely a container? 19.33.52 # Apparently they're too wise to use Wikipedia 19.34.42 # Apparently so, ComposerDude. 19.36.16 Join stripwax [0] (n=Miranda@87-194-34-169.bethere.co.uk) 19.37.14 Join moos [0] (i=moos@m170.net81-66-158.noos.fr) 19.37.32 Join axionix_ [0] (n=axion@cpe-74-70-239-192.nycap.res.rr.com) 19.37.46 Join thegeek [0] (i=thegeek@s220b.studby.ntnu.no) 19.38.01 # stripwax: Are you coming for b**r tomorrow? (avoiding triggering everyone...) 19.38.44 Join Mathiasdm [0] (n=Mathias@vpnj065.ugent.be) 19.39.25 # yay, b**r 19.40.03 # * Horscht puts b**r on highlight 19.41.04 # gevaerts: a failed mounting shouldn't hurt it since it may be reset and attempted again 19.45.36 Join petur [50] (n=petur@rockbox/developer/petur) 19.47.46 # gevaerts: a card is only actually initialized on first use anyway but mounting is the first use fwiw 19.49.53 Quit axionix (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 19.53.45 Join PaulJam [0] (n=PaulJam_@p54BCEA0D.dip.t-dialin.net) 19.54.51 # Out of curiosity, is linux the only possible build environment for rb? 19.55.05 Join jgarvey [0] (n=jgarvey@cpe-024-163-032-204.nc.res.rr.com) 19.55.06 Join lee-qid [0] (n=liqid@p5496759E.dip.t-dialin.net) 19.55.06 # markun: Are there any Creative ZEN Vision:M patches on flyspray? 19.55.22 # ComposerDude: No, you can build using Cygwin in Windows, or on OS X as well. 19.55.23 # linuxstb: I think he just posts them in the forum 19.55.24 # ComposerDude: OSX is fine, and you can use cygwin or a linux VM in windows 19.55.30 # markun: Hmm... 19.55.35 # http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=3320.msg117949#msg117949 19.56.28 # * linuxstb is surprised the forum-police hasn't asked him to post to flyspray 19.56.43 Quit nplus (Remote closed the connection) 19.56.45 # me too 19.57.00 Join MethoS- [0] (n=clemens@pD955FFD2.dip.t-dialin.net) 19.57.03 Quit ComposerDude ("ChatZilla 0.9.81 [Firefox 2.0.0.12/2008020121]") 19.57.21 Join nplus [0] (n=nplus@141.25.Globcom.Net) 20.00.47 Quit nplus (Remote closed the connection) 20.01.40 Quit PaulJam (".") 20.02.17 Quit Siku () 20.05.53 Quit japc (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 20.06.24 Nick mchua_yum is now known as mchua (n=mchua@cpe-66-108-80-238.nyc.res.rr.com) 20.06.52 Quit DaCapn (Remote closed the connection) 20.08.58 # jhMikeS: but if mounting fails, it won't broadcast SYS_HOTSWAP_INSERTED, so the usb storage driver can't use that to let the host know about it. 20.09.10 Join DaCapn [0] (n=dacapn@c-76-105-220-239.hsd1.or.comcast.net) 20.11.28 # gevaerts: so you're saying that it would be better to have SYS_HOTSWAP_INSERTED no matter what and SYS_FS_CHANGED only if mounted? Makes sense. 20.12.39 # jhMikeS: I think so, yes. 20.12.45 Join Siku [0] (i=Siku@e81-197-70-46.elisa-laajakaista.fi) 20.12.52 # * jhMikeS corrects himself and say SYS_FS_CHANGED for mount/unmount 20.13.44 Quit mchua (Remote closed the connection) 20.14.43 Join mchua [0] (n=mchua@cpe-66-108-80-238.nyc.res.rr.com) 20.14.48 # then effectively "queue_broadcast((ev.data) ? SYS_HOTSWAP_INSERTED : SYS_HOTSWAP_EXTRACTED, 0);" instead of the "if (action & ...)" would do the trick I think 20.15.35 # That should work I guess 20.16.48 Quit ch4os_ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 20.20.54 Join disorganizer [0] (n=5b11ede6@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-f3634f13b3794e62) 20.23.53 Quit MethoS- (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 20.25.14 Join Lukstr [0] (n=Lukstr@206-248-157-113.dsl.teksavvy.com) 20.28.28 Quit Lear ("ChatZilla 0.9.81 [Firefox 3.0b4pre/2008030206]") 20.31.42 Join spiorf [0] (n=spiorf@79.25.226.76) 20.35.14 Join thegeek_ [0] (i=thegeek@s220b.studby.ntnu.no) 20.36.56 # linuxstb: Wouldn't that be b33r? ;) 20.38.26 # jhMikeS: The way hotswap is intended to work is that the card driver always sends SYS_HOTSWAP_INSERTED / SYS_HOTSWAP_EXTRACTED on insertion / extraction, debounced, but independent of any mount / unmount action 20.39.22 # Mounting / umounting both need to send SYS_FS_CHANGED (that's the notification for the file browser) 20.39.27 # amiconn: the change I suggested would have it be consistent with that, correct? 20.40.37 # If the card is under usb thread control (be it hardware bridge or software stack), SYS_FS_CHANGED won't be sent, but the insertion / extraction events still must be sent 20.42.03 Join pixelma [50] (i=pixelma@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 20.42.43 # so it needs one more check for being under usb control and SYS_FS_CHANGED broadcast skipped? I'm guessing SYS_FS_CHANGED should be sent on disconnect in that case. 20.43.27 # It should not even try to mount when under usb control 20.43.56 # Also, the SYS_HOTSWAP_* events should be sent before mounting 20.45.34 # Since the thread receives the SYS_USB_* event, it shouldn't be difficult to keep track of that 20.46.11 Join bluebrother [0] (n=dom@rockbox/staff/bluebrother) 20.47.22 # jhMikeS: Btw, the hotswap detection seems a bit strange to me. Iiuc it does the debouncing on the queue, so that there is a race condition 20.48.17 # Ah, no, I misread 20.50.15 Quit thegeek (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 20.50.17 # I'm not sure why this queue_remove_from_head() in the callback is necessary though? 20.51.09 # Doesn't timeout_register() re-register without firing if it's called before the timeout times out? 20.52.12 # it does 20.52.34 # ok 20.53.48 # Wouldn't it be easier to make the timeout callback directly broadcast SYS_HOTSWAP_INSERTED or SYS_HOTSWAP_EXTRACTED, and then just react to those 2 events in the loop? 20.54.30 # This way the private event could be removed, and you don't need to check ev.data to decide whether to mount or unmount 20.54.53 # it's meant to avoid pointless broadcasting 20.55.03 # Why pointless? 20.55.19 # Those events should be broadcast anyway 20.57.33 # linuxstb, markun: I suggested opening an FS task to mcuelenaere 20.58.40 Quit Arathis ("Bye, bye") 20.59.17 Join Arathis [0] (n=doerk@p508A5FEC.dip.t-dialin.net) 21.00.42 # And this way the sd thread could even block during usb without negative side effects 21.00.46 # Nico_P: When? 21.00.54 Quit desowin (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 21.01.02 # linuxstb: just before I said it here... on the ZVM port thread 21.01.04 # The usb thread would still received the insetrion/extraction events 21.01.13 # s/received/receive/ 21.01.30 # *insertion even, grmbl 21.01.55 # Nico_P: OK, thanks. 21.01.57 # amiconn: I think it could be changed that way safely but the queue_remove_from head prevents insert (register), remove (regsiter), insert (register) from generating two "insert" events. 21.02.05 Join merbanan [0] (n=banan@83.233.242.28) 21.02.45 # Under what conditions would that happen? 21.03.02 Join robin0800 [0] (n=robin080@cpc2-brig8-0-0-cust498.brig.cable.ntl.com) 21.03.09 Join saratoga [0] (n=9803c6dd@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-a5511cbc8ae934f5) 21.03.36 # removal events could also flood the queue 21.03.53 # If I understood what you said, reregistering before the timeout wouldn't make it fire, so debouncing should continue to work like it does now 21.04.26 # That could happen when the thread was blocked on usb. I think if blocking until disconnect comes back, all insertion/extraction events have to be broadcast (since the user can swap several times) 21.04.29 # linuxstb: FS#8686 :) 21.04.36 # I think we should put a note about GSOC on the front page so that potiential students know about it and see the wiki page 21.04.42 # gevaerts: No it could not 21.04.44 # but removal is taken to be detect more quickly whereas insert is given time to settle 21.05.14 # usb_wait_for_disconnect() waits for the disconnect event only, and eats all other events which may queue up before that 21.06.30 # * gevaerts shuts up an goes back to his work to separata usb_core and the class drivers 21.06.54 # Well, I've never seen duplicated insertion or extraction events on Ondio, and hotswap is handled like I described there, the only difference being that debouncing is done in a tick task (no gpio interrupts which could be used) 21.07.22 # Although, there's another difference: debounce timeout is symmetric in the MMC driver (300 msec) 21.07.26 Quit Siku (Nick collision from services.) 21.07.32 Join Siku [0] (i=Siku@e81-197-70-46.elisa-laajakaista.fi) 21.08.08 # as long as it correctly handles violent bouncing of the card in and out of the slot by the user (such as not pushing it to the click point and the card pops out again) I'm happy 21.09.50 # I don't think that delaying the unmount a fraction of a second is problematic. The files aren't accessible anyway, the forced "unmount" is rather just a cleanup (closing open file handles to aviod confusion when a different card is inserted 21.10.03 # * amiconn can't type :\ 21.10.08 Quit disorganizer ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)") 21.10.27 Join Lear [0] (i=chatzill@rockbox/developer/lear) 21.12.07 # obviously not much can be done if the user really wants the card removed and something is being written, but that's just asking for trouble. 21.12.08 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 21.12.39 Join mf0102 [0] (n=michi@85.127.180.200) 21.13.07 # Nico_P: Tried to trigger that buffering bug (missing last 15-30 seconds of a track) today, but failed... Either it is gone (I used a slightly newer build when testing) or difficult to trigger. 21.13.20 # I guess the latter 21.13.36 # ah there ZVM patch is now on the tracker 21.14.23 # Me continually has triggered weirdness like unboosting the CPU in the middle of buffering (which seems to happen between tracks) 21.17.54 Join disorganizer [0] (n=5b11ede6@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-b63491756fb37c46) 21.18.26 # Loading SPC can causes continous disk activity even when buffering has completed. Now, I don't know for sure if this priority inheritance work is responsible because unlocking a mutex with that can cause a task switch (if the new owner is higher priority and that isn't explicitely disabled) and maybe it gets confused if that happens. 21.19.00 Join tessarakt [0] (n=jens@e180073209.adsl.alicedsl.de) 21.19.53 Join desowin [0] (n=desowin@atheme/developer/desowin) 21.20.22 Join TMM [0] (n=hp@ip565b35da.direct-adsl.nl) 21.26.56 Join juviwork [0] (i=sevaleca@68-250-44-53.ded.ameritech.net) 21.27.59 # jhMikeS: Sounds weird. 21.29.27 Quit argumentD (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 21.31.51 Quit stripwax ("Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org") 21.33.11 Quit robin0800 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 21.34.55 Join MethoS- [0] (n=clemens@host-091-096-215-086.ewe-ip-backbone.de) 21.34.58 # Any objections to make a struct usb_class_driver containing pointers to functions in usb_storage.c and/or usb_serial.c (or others,...), in order to make usb_core fully (or nearly) class-driver agnostic ? This would make adding more drivers later easier, and get rid of most #ifdefs in usb_core.c 21.41.27 # after having a quick look in there, that idea makes sense 21.43.53 # I'll go ahead then 21.44.26 Join stripwax [0] (n=Miranda@87-194-34-169.bethere.co.uk) 21.44.44 # GodEater/linuxstb - sounds good 21.44.46 # :) 21.48.06 # Ahh, someone gives praise on the m:robe 100 port: http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=5147.msg117989;topicseen#msg117989 21.50.08 # stripwax: You can make it? 21.50.15 # Yep 21.50.23 # An hour late as usual? 21.50.25 # ;) 21.50.28 # Yep :) 21.52.16 Quit nicktastique ("Leaving") 21.55.49 # * linuxstb reads about the braille keyboard/display idea on rockbox-dev and thinks that would be a nice project for SoC 21.57.14 Quit Lear ("ChatZilla 0.9.81 [Firefox 3.0b5pre/2008030506]") 21.57.16 # linuxstb: Brilliant idea, I say. 21.58.43 # Good night, everyone! 21.58.51 # * LambdaCalculus37 gets his coat and goes home 21.58.53 Quit LambdaCalculus37 ("CGI:IRC 0.5.9 (2006/06/06)") 21.59.25 Join Davide-NYC [0] (n=chatzill@user-0cev9vm.cable.mindspring.com) 22.04.41 Nick JdGordon|zzz is now known as JdGordon (n=jonno@rockbox/developer/JdGordon) 22.08.14 Quit merbanan (Remote closed the connection) 22.10.24 Quit tvelocity ("Αποχώρησε") 22.11.40 Join thegeek [0] (i=thegeek@s220b.studby.ntnu.no) 22.16.27 Quit cg (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 22.16.46 # does the recorder have some sort of software hold switch? 22.17.20 # yes 22.18.26 # well, then FS#1055 is already implemented. Or did I understand the request wrongly? 22.19.04 # iirc, the hold on recorder is only in the wps 22.19.42 # ok, so the task is still valid. 22.19.56 # * n1s is sensing some FS cleanup 22.20.05 # * bluebrother too and likes it 22.20.12 # I was about to say the same - a one-man tracker cleanup week 22.20.39 # Bagder: (i know im bugging you :p ) both my boxes are going 24/7 again. jdgordon.info:9822 and 9922 (9822 is the quad) if you wanna add hthem again 22.21.17 # I never removed the one I added 22.21.48 # still pointing to lost.lostlogicx.com is it? 22.22.14 # ah yes 22.22.20 # * JdGordon not there anymore :p 22.23.10 Quit thegeek_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 22.24.44 # can you make up a cname or something for the second host? 22.24.59 # it makes it a bit confusing if we use the same host name for multiple build servers 22.25.06 # as the logs don't show port numbers 22.26.15 # If you use ssh everywhere, you could use Host/Hostname settings and "pretend" they have different names 22.26.37 # * gevaerts doesn't know how the build servers are actually handled 22.26.45 # it does ssh and scp 22.28.01 # ok, just use 9922 then 22.28.06 # sorry, 9822 22.28.54 # I can in fact edit /etc/hosts on the build master and make up a name 22.29.02 # but it feels a bit too hacky 22.29.07 # Then something like http://pastebin.ca/929560 in your .ssh/config should work 22.29.19 # I've been trying to point out required clean up of the tracker's recording section but I always find that for some reason the request *could* be valid. 22.29.19 Join Febs [0] (n=chatzill@38.98.196.75) 22.29.40 # gevaerts: ah, nice! 22.29.45 Join cg [0] (n=cromos@88.193.143.80) 22.30.19 # * Davide-NYC Finds bugs reports from 2003 is particularly annoying. But what can you do? 22.30.26 # The Host bit also gets used as the key for the known_hosts file, so you won't get conflicts there either 22.30.41 # Davide-NYC: See if you can recreate them, and if not, close it. 22.31.42 # * linuxstb wonders what Davide-NYC was talking about... 22.32.16 Quit lee-qid ("aufwiederbyebientotsayonara") 22.32.30 # There's always some "far off in a corner" reason that I should not ask for them to be closed. Exaple: 1055 22.33.22 # That's a feature request, not a bug... 22.33.29 Join ompaul [0] (n=ompaul@gnewsense/friend/ompaul) 22.34.08 # * linuxstb starts to wonder if there's any point in feature requests at all... 22.34.45 # We do have soft hold on archos nowadays. The recording screen doesn't use it though. 22.34.46 # nowadays there's very little point 22.36.45 Quit FOAD ("I'll be back") 22.37.02 Join FOAD [0] (n=dok@dinah.blub.net) 22.37.18 # now that I think of it, is there any reason we don't use hold on h300 to prevent usb connect (for charging only)? The REC button is not nice at all (as it also triggers the recording screen - another unfortunate thing) 22.37.19 # wee \o/ 22.37.42 # wii? 22.37.55 # petur: Why only the h300? 22.38.01 # * amiconn just sped up greyscale updates on archos by ~55% 22.38.19 # 38fps for fullscreen now 22.38.21 # linuxstb: good question, others too I'd say 22.38.47 Join thegeek_ [0] (i=thegeek@s220b.studby.ntnu.no) 22.38.57 # * bluebrother wants a Wii :) 22.38.57 # (on recorder; Ondio is ~20% faster in the greyscale lib) 22.39.10 # petur: that is a great idea (hold+usb=charging only) This could also work for H1x0 22.39.27 # H1x0 doesn't have USB charging 22.39.46 # What happened to the idea of a prompt? 22.39.48 # It would in fact for all targets with USB power and a hold switch 22.39.57 # A prompt would be nasty 22.40.07 # * linuxstb recalls a discussion about a prompt but forgets the conclusion... 22.40.17 # * BigBambi hopes it was no :) 22.40.35 # * bluebrother would prefer the hold switch 22.40.56 # * amiconn could probably live with it 22.41.01 # Hold would be good 22.41.09 # Of course there are targets where we have to use a button 22.41.28 # sure 22.41.31 Join drkgeek [0] (n=a9cc761d@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-2860c6a01d53e6ab) 22.41.33 # Which targets have usb-charge but no hold switch? 22.41.43 # Recorder FM/v2 and the Ondios 22.41.59 # And I am deliberately talking about usb power, not usb charging 22.42.33 # The Ondios have no charging at all, as they are designed to run from non-rechargeable batteries, but they can still use usb power 22.43.30 Nick [omni]_ is now known as [omni] (n=omni@bestII.com) 22.44.26 # * linuxstb finds the previous discussion - 12.22.23 on 14 Aug 2007 22.44.43 # s/23/33/ 22.45.06 # Hey, I just compiled the latest build last night, I installed it (for the divice disable update) and nothing but music plays. (like no picture) says incompatible version. Whats up with that? 22.45.14 Quit kies (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 22.45.17 # linuxstb: you know you can actually link the time? :) 22.45.40 # pixelma: Yes, but I don't use the perl reader... 22.45.51 # mpegplayer is totally messed up now (menu's don't even draw the right color) :\ 22.45.57 # Please correct me if I am wrong: On an H1x0 target, if this idea were implemented, one could solder the charger jack pins to USB +5v and ground and dispense with a charger or a custom cable. Correct? 22.46.22 # linuxstb: I also only use it in case I want to use the links... 22.46.37 # In fact, the conversation started at 12.03, and my argument against the hold button was that it would confuse users who wonder why their computer doesn't detect their device. 22.47.14 # and it's freezing up when backing out of a submenu 22.47.18 # jhMikeS: So much for JdGordon's definition of bug free... :\ 22.47.32 # :P 22.47.58 # What does it mean when everything but music returns an (incompatible version) error? 22.48.06 # Didn't he just say "no known bugs" ? ... 22.48.24 # Davide-NYC: There was a discussion on this on the forums way back in the day, and there was the recommendation of some sort of capacitor (my memory is failing) inbetween 22.48.29 # But yes, I forgot to test the plugins today when I tried out the patch... 22.48.30 # "so unless any bugs show up users should not notice any difference. " 22.48.42 # drkgeek - sounds like you copied only the rockbox.model but not the plugings 22.48.45 # plugins 22.48.53 # drkgeek: it means that you need to extract the whole folder (as you only...what he said :) 22.49.08 # I compiled it myself last night. 22.49.10 # drkgeek - or you copied the rockbox firmware to the wrong location 22.49.24 # but the plugins to the right location ;) 22.49.34 # drkgeek: with patches? 22.49.34 # doesnt it overwright? 22.49.36 # jhMikeS: Is there anything special about mpegplayer's menus? Do other plugins with menus work? 22.49.42 # no it was default svn 22.49.58 # linuxstb: only the sys event handling but this shouldn't involve that 22.50.02 # drkgeek - if by "it" you mean "your computer" then that's something we can't answer for you.. 22.50.34 # (regarding overwriting - yes, you need to tell your computer to overwrite) 22.50.52 # I left some things on mysansa when I installed the new svn. 22.50.53 # drkgeek - you did a "make zip","unzip", right? 22.51.00 # yea I made zip 22.51.27 # drkgeek: I normally use the command-line unzip program - "unzip rockbox.zip -d /path/to/player/" 22.51.32 # and you unzipped it, and told it to overwrite everything? 22.51.34 # linuxstb: we could show a splash when charging-only mode is activaged 22.51.36 # * jhMikeS needs another plugin that uses submenus and returns to the parent menuy 22.51.38 # Yes 22.51.46 # bluebrother: I have a feeling of deja-vu... 22.52.13 # I got alot of errors during the compile/make zip 22.52.16 # jhMikeS - anything with audio menu? e.g. minesweeper/solitaire? 22.52.28 Join TheBashar [0] (n=User@adsl-75-31-137-24.dsl.irvnca.sbcglobal.net) 22.52.31 # the menus are the wrong color in pictureflow but no lockup 22.52.56 # drkgeek - um, well that's the problem then. if it failed to compile, then who knows what versions of everything you ended up copying over (or not copying over).. 22.52.57 # I'm using that command console for windows, cygin? 22.53.01 # and others 22.53.11 # try and "make" and fix the compilation errors first 22.53.14 # bluebrother: But yes, I think a splash would be useful - maybe something like "HOLD detected - charging only" 22.53.32 # "make clean", "make" if necessary 22.53.39 # yes, cygwin is what I use also 22.53.42 # I know very little outside what the tutorials tell me 22.53.58 # BigBambi: thanks, how do I search for that discussion? I'm using google (site specific) but I can't find it. 22.53.59 # any error in compilation means it didn't work. "make zip" after that point is futile 22.54.06 # linuxstb: The statusbar shows the usb charging icon... 22.54.07 # drkgeek: Assuming the unzip program is installed, and your device is E:\, you can type "unzip rockbox.zip -d /cygdrive/e/" 22.54.14 Quit thegeek (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 22.54.17 # ^ not if 'make' failed, right? 22.54.25 # amiconn: My point is that a use may not know _why_ the player didn't connect 22.54.30 # s/use/user/ 22.54.31 # Davide-NYC: I think it was back before the forums changed format, try searching just the archives in the forum search 22.54.33 # it didnt fail, it made it and claimed it was good 22.54.51 # bagder: could I send you a new m:robe 100 bootloader with dual-boot enabled for the download server? 22.54.53 # you just said you got a lot of errors during compilation/make zio 22.54.55 # zip 22.54.57 # which is it to be 22.55.08 # roolku: sure 22.55.08 Quit disorganizer ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)") 22.55.12 # A splash would be problematic (unless the gui does it in reaction to an event) 22.55.21 # It listed errors, but it said, "zip completed" or whatever 22.55.29 # nothing about failed 22.55.35 # ok, so the errors mean it didn't work. errors = failure 22.55.37 # linuxstb: did I propose that back that discussion too? ;-) 22.55.39 # ahh 22.55.46 # bluebrother: Yes ;) 22.55.50 # if "make" fails, don't "make zip", there's no point doing that. 22.55.54 # * bluebrother is currently doing too many things at once :o 22.56.06 # hehe, seems I still like my idea 22.56.07 # linuxstb: mpegplayer does use the callback mechanism so it's probably something there 22.56.09 Join kies [0] (n=kies@adsl-76-199-14-32.dsl.chmpil.sbcglobal.net) 22.56.14 # so, how do i Purge the svn to be perfect again? 22.56.36 # if you have a clean svn, you don't need to purge the source, just "make clean", "make" as I suggested should do the trick 22.56.40 # amiconn: the even in question, could that be USB 5V detect with the hold switch enabled? 22.56.41 # jhMikeS: So there are probably two issues - colours not being set properly in plugin menus, and the crash in mpegplayer? 22.57.00 # linuxstb: that's what I see right now 22.57.06 # drkgeek - any information you can provide as to what the actual errors actually were will, of course, help us answer your questions better .. ;) 22.57.29 Quit mf0102 ("Verlassend") 22.57.51 # I'm at school at the moment, but thank you for your help. goodbye! =) 22.57.56 # t'ra 22.57.57 # jhMikeS: Does mpegplayer use a lot of stack (in the thread displaying the menus)? 22.58.00 # I'll try make clean 22.58.16 # roolku: uploaded and replaced the old one 22.58.27 # if that doesnt help I'll go tutorail hunting 22.58.33 Quit drkgeek ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 22.58.45 # linuxstb: no more than anything else should. in fact the most stack-hungry screen (Set Start Time) works fine 22.59.00 # scorche|sh: ping 22.59.08 # * scorche|sh waves 22.59.29 # what sort of no-ipod-required projects are there 22.59.31 Quit Arathis ("Bye, bye") 22.59.54 # * jhMikeS will double-check with a clean build to check if it's his idiocy 23.00.14 Quit XavierGr (Nick collision from services.) 23.00.24 Join XavierGr [0] (n=xavier@rockbox/staff/XavierGr) 23.00.37 Part linuxstb ("Leaving") 23.00.53 # * amiconn made a slight mistake, speedup is "only" 50%, not 55% 23.01.16 Join linuxstb [0] (n=linuxstb@rockbox/developer/linuxstb) 23.02.04 # Lukstr: there really is quite a bit that one could do without a device...you might be better off asking "could i do ______?"...then again, i could see someone purchasing a cheap refurb sansa for $45 from the first $500 payment 23.02.35 Join kushal_12_27_200 [0] (n=kushal@12.169.180.134) 23.03.06 # BigBambi: I found the H1x0 USB charging Mod thread. It turns out that anything other than a wire may be superfluous. Good news! (maybe) 23.03.24 # scorche|sh: hm I don't have much desire for an mp3 player personally though, my little-itty-bitty 128mb one works fine 23.04.01 # * amiconn wonders how a real shaded cube in cube.rock would look 23.04.22 # Now that the greylib offers that many shades, this would be possible on all bitmap targets 23.05.12 Quit kushal_12_27_200 (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 23.05.47 # Only a cube? I'm sure you can manage more than 6 sides... ;) 23.05.49 # Lukstr: if you want to go by our idea list, i could see someone doing build overhaul, most of the "plugins" section, the infrastructure section, and can think of many other possible projects that could be done without a device 23.06.16 # will check it out 23.06.21 # linuxstb: Of course, although the current code requires the shape to be strictly convex 23.07.21 # It could e.g. cycle through the 5 platonic solids (in fact one of my old ideas) 23.08.01 # make a soft GL implementation! 23.08.16 # insert open where appropriate 23.10.13 # no but seriously the cube gets old quite fast ;D 23.11.53 Quit jcollie ("Ex-Chat") 23.12.03 # linuxstb: ok, the lockup doesn't happen with SVN but the color stuff still does. next I'll check to make sure to have a full update with my changed stuff. 23.12.04 # amiconn - hm, 'strictly convex' faces only, no? 23.12.09 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 23.12.25 # cycling through the ships from Elite (in a creative-commons kinda way) would be neat 23.14.59 Join ComposerDude [0] (n=Composer@12-219-101-35.client.mchsi.com) 23.19.02 # BTW, I used cabbiev2 on the gigabeat for the first time today, and notice it shows "kB/s" after the bitrate.... 23.19.16 Part juviwork 23.20.00 Quit corevette (Remote closed the connection) 23.20.10 # grepping the other .wps files in SVN, it seems that Kbps is most common, but also kbps, or k or K... 23.20.11 # linuxstb: It looks like my mpegplayer was just out of sync with things and no lockup now 23.20.19 # * Bagder enjoys seeing the creative patches showing up in fs 23.21.31 Join kushal_12_27_200 [0] (n=kushal@12.169.180.134) 23.21.44 # jhMikeS: OK, so that leaves JdGordon with the colour bugs? 23.21.53 # yep 23.22.15 # Couldn't http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/6990 be modded really simply to allow for the hold switch USB charging mod? If so what changes need to be made so that the HOLD switch engages USB chrging instead of the (current) REC botton? 23.29.08 Join corevette [0] (n=corevett@adsl-75-18-210-31.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) 23.29.20 Join |AhIoRoS| [0] (n=ahioros@201.226.58.34) 23.31.09 # Disregard previous idea. These are (slightly) different ideas. My memory is terrible. 23.33.11 # * linuxstb reads the google SoC timeline and didn't realise everything was happening so quickly - http://code.google.com/soc/2008/faqs.html#0.1_timeline 23.35.46 # linuxstb: our application is mostly ready to go, so it could probably be submitted today or tomorrow 23.36.00 # saratoga: Yes, I know. 23.36.16 # though i'd like to begin advertising on the front page before then so that people interesting in volenteering see the wiki page 23.36.35 Quit ompaul (Client Quit) 23.37.33 # It's good to see rb participating in SoC!:) 23.38.03 Quit moos (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 23.38.07 # ComposerDude: we did last year too ;) 23.38.49 # I'm having trouble with including m68k-elf-gcc in my environment... (rev: SoC... again!) 23.39.43 # HowToCompile in the wiki doesn't explain setting up the linux environment. 23.39.59 # ComposerDude: have you had a look at simply running rockboxdev.sh? ;) 23.40.18 Quit jgarvey ("Leaving") 23.40.37 # No, sir. 23.41.07 # ComposerDude: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/CrossCompiler#Step_2a_Automatic_build 23.41.54 Quit Domonoky (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 23.42.58 # Thanks, linuxstb :) 23.46.45 Quit faemir ("If debian was Arch then Ubuntu would own.") 23.55.49 Quit z35 ("Leaving") 23.57.02 Quit n1s () 23.57.18 # OK. I (mostly) finished my reorganisation of USB code. I still have to fix some coding style issues (mainly long lines), but anyone who likes to review code can have a go at the latest patch in FS#8562 (usb_cleanup.diff) 23.57.43 Quit gregzx ("ChatZilla 0.9.81 [Firefox 2.0.0.12/2008020121]") 23.58.22 Join Soap_ [50] (n=Soap@rockbox/staff/soap) 23.58.41 # I prefered putting it on FS first since I'd like to get some review first, before I commit something that lots of people disagree with.