--- Log for 15.04.108 Server: leguin.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 13 days and 18 hours ago 00.00.48 # anyone have experience with the ZIF to ATA adapters? 00.00.58 # BigBambi: From ~/rockbox/build folder, what's the command to compile sendfirm? 00.01.47 # LambdaCalculus37: It is in rockbox/utils/MTP 00.01.54 Join cbr|w [0] (n=cbr@212.98.160.130) 00.02.38 Quit matsl (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00.02.43 # just type make in there (you need to have thinhs like devel packages for libusb installed IIRC) 00.03.17 # No wonder it just borked on me. 00.03.27 # * LambdaCalculus37 goes to get the libusb dev packages 00.04.41 # Oops! Forgot libmtp-dev as well... should add that just in case. 00.05.30 # BigBambi: So gnomad2 can see the Gigabeat as well? 00.05.41 # yep 00.05.41 # I always thought that was meant for Creative devices. 00.05.49 # Originally 00.05.54 # * markun waves good night 00.05.57 # night 00.06.01 # markun: Good night! 00.06.11 # bonne nuit 00.06.23 # Bonne nuit to all... 00.06.54 # moos: a toi aussi :) 00.06.56 # * LambdaCalculus37 decides to apt-get install gnomad2 00.07.07 Quit domonoky (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 00.07.42 # markun: merci :) 00.08.46 # BigBambi: sendfirm is ready. Now for the bootloader. :) 00.09.00 # I need mknkboot as well, right? 00.09.04 # yeah 00.09.26 # You build the bootloader, patch nk.bin with it with mknkboot, then send the resulting file with sendfirm 00.10.01 # mknkboot.c is in rockbox/tools 00.10.16 Join Rob2222 [0] (n=Miranda@p4FDCED8F.dip.t-dialin.net) 00.10.16 # And maybe mknkboot 00.10.35 # I think that gets built for you 00.10.44 Quit petur ("*plop*") 00.10.55 # I see mknkboot already built in rockbox/tools. 00.11.05 # Now I need the required nk.bin 00.11.39 # It is in an archive linked from the wiki I think 00.12.43 # LambdaCalculus37: I can send it if you like 00.12.52 # BigBambi: Sure. 00.12.58 # OK, one mo 00.14.14 # Ah great, error on bootloader compile: http://pastebin.com/m13925cc 00.14.28 # Ah, I didn't realise you were using the web client 00.14.55 # LambdaCalculus37: PM 00.15.27 # jhMikeS was asking about people that tried to build current svn bootloader, good spot then? 00.16.15 # Guess so. 00.16.28 # * LambdaCalculus37 pokes jhMikeS 00.16.59 # Yeah, I built it a little while ago, but I don't think much has changed since then 00.17.07 # Actually, let me set my Gigabeat S in recovery mode instead. 00.17.24 # LambdaCalculus37: I'd do it in the OF 00.17.32 # It won't wipe everything that way 00.17.40 # Much cleaner 00.17.53 # BigBambi: There's nothing on here yet. 00.17.59 # It's totally empty. 00.18.08 # because his last ADC works regarding the warnings? 00.18.14 # But if you say so... :) 00.18.23 # Well, just might as well 00.18.58 Quit CyBergRind|w (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00.19.49 Quit amiconn (Nick collision from services.) 00.19.56 Join amiconn [50] (n=jens@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 00.20.26 # It's in recovery mode now. 00.21.33 # LambdaCalculus37: Did you see the PM? 00.21.53 # BigBambi: Yes, getting it now. 00.22.44 # I should have zipped it really 00.22.45 Quit John64_away ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 00.22.49 # oops 00.23.05 # Got it. 00.23.57 # Sending... 00.24.17 Quit gevaerts ("shutdown -h now") 00.25.57 # So now I figure click the battery off, click hold switch, turn battery on, right? 00.26.55 # Have you already copied over the rockbox.tar? 00.27.50 # Ah, right... doing now. 00.29.08 # * LambdaCalculus37 smacks gnomad2 00.29.39 # You probably need to disconnect then connect again 00.30.48 # Ah crap! 00.30.58 # * LambdaCalculus37 forgot to enable USB in his build 00.31.05 # * LambdaCalculus37 goes back to recompile 00.31.40 # What USB? 00.31.56 # It doesn't work on the beast yet... 00.32.14 # jhMikeS is working on it... 00.32.22 # * LambdaCalculus37 smacks forehead 00.32.26 # I know, but LambdaCalculus37 can't enable it now 00.32.27 Quit OlivierBorowski ("Konversation terminated!") 00.33.33 Join DerPapst [0] (n=DerPapst@p5B23C98B.dip.t-dialin.net) 00.33.59 # Do people ask about Rockbox on the Zune a lot? 00.34.06 # Periodically 00.34.11 # BigBambi: yup just for inform him... 00.34.32 # moos: :) 00.34.42 # What the hell? 00.35.08 # quoi? 00.35.28 # Never mind... gnomad2 briefly couldn't find any devices on the bus. 00.35.30 # I got it now. 00.35.37 # It does that a lot 00.35.42 Quit ZincAlloy ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)") 00.35.47 # * BigBambi points at MTP support in linux 00.35.55 Quit davina (Remote closed the connection) 00.36.12 # * LambdaCalculus37 managed to copy a rockbox.tar to the root of the beast 00.36.29 # what player ya got calc? 00.36.34 # cool, so turn the battery switch off then on, then turn on hold as it starts to boot 00.37.39 # r0rshach: Do you reeeeeeealy want to know? 00.37.54 Quit kushal_12_27_200 ("This computer has gone to sleep") 00.38.47 # BigBambi: Rockbox is successfully running on my Gigabeast! 00.38.56 # Cool 00.39.06 # Nice sight isn't it :) 00.39.13 # hehe :) 00.40.57 # * LambdaCalculus37 goes for internal fuel sources... dinner 00.41.01 Quit LambdaCalculus37 ("CGI:IRC 0.5.9 (2006/06/06)") 00.42.48 Quit DerDome (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00.44.10 # well so which flash target is better? 00.45.32 # Hillshum: The one that bears the closest resemblance to the longest piece of string 00.46.00 # Hillshum: It really depends on what you want, although I would take a Sansa over a Nano 00.47.11 # I'd give the Nano a slightly higher ranking personally 00.47.20 # Doesn't have the noise problem the Sansa has. 00.47.28 # i have a v2, i watch the port thread every day. i might sell it and get a v1 no nano for me i like the radio 00.47.38 # Llorean: True, but whether that bothers you depends on earphones 00.47.54 # And the sansa is storage expandable, has a radio and limited recording 00.48.06 # BigBambi: Quite true. It more or less is a clear case of "what you need it for" 00.48.11 Quit ender` (" In politics, absurdity is not a handicap. -- Napoleon Bonaparte") 00.48.12 # Indeed so 00.48.52 # even without the noise, the sansa's SQ is dreadful (imo of course) 00.49.01 Join boxerorange [0] (n=boxerora@mn-10k-dhcp1-7950.dsl.hickorytech.net) 00.49.09 Quit herrwaldo ("Konversation terminated!") 00.49.21 # I do have to admit to not having tried a nano for more than fifteen minutes at this point 00.50.03 # And I don't use my Sansa that much, so take what I say about SQ with a pinch of salt 00.50.19 # SQ? 00.50.31 # Sound Quality 00.51.29 # i like the fact that card slot+replaceable battery+rockbox= long lasting expandable player 00.52.01 # sound wise I prefer the OndioFM (which also has a radio, expandable memory and better recording possibilities) ;) of course it doesn't play as many formats 00.52.08 # plus i want tactile controls for blind usage of sansa 00.53.53 # pixelma: i did ask about RB targets, the OF has to be good for me buy one without RB 00.54.11 # Hillshum: The Ondio FM is a rockbox target... 00.54.15 # One of the oldest 00.54.17 Join Shaid [0] (n=adam@dsl-202-45-112-116-static.VIC.netspace.net.au) 00.54.28 # the OndioFM is a Rockbox target (and was well before the Sansas...) 00.54.30 # oh... but is it flash based? 00.54.31 # pixelma: my ears are agred with you :) 00.54.35 Quit Shaid (Client Quit) 00.54.54 # But it uses a hardware decoder, so can play MP3 and WAV only 00.55.03 # Hillshum: Yes, it is flash 00.55.03 # Hello everybody! 00.55.39 # i want WMA plus maybe AAC and vorbis 00.56.17 # Then it is a v1 e200 or c200 or a v1 nano 00.56.21 # Hillshum: yes, and what BigBambi said and it only has a small monochrome display. My point was only that there are other flash based Rockbox targets besides the Nano and the Sansas :P 00.56.54 # it's not an option if you want to play these formats of course 00.57.49 # BigBambi: You forgot MP2. Not very widespread in general, but people who directly record dap may find it useful 00.58.03 # s/dap/dab 00.58.05 # amiconn: Ah yes, thanks 00.58.14 # So I'm looking into coding for Rockbox and other similar things, could somebody point me in the direction of what languages to learn, other than C? 00.58.28 # And unlike all swcodec rockboxes, the archoses don't need to resample that(dab uses 48kHz sample rate) 00.58.36 # boxerorange: For rockbox, it is C and some ASM 00.58.56 # amiconn: So the hwcodec outputs at native sample rate? 00.59.10 # no monocrome for me (my Dad would have gotten me one for Christmas if he'd known they were still around. he didn't want me looking a pics and vids cause at his lawer job he sees to much porn and what not. but the only thing it that regards is the shuffle and that is for losers 00.59.12 # ) 00.59.35 # boxeorange: rockbox use plain C and some asm for few CPUs 00.59.46 # oops echo :) 01.00.09 # thanks a million! Because I'm looking into iPods specifically, are they just C? 01.00.21 # Rockbox is written for all platforms 01.00.22 # no target uses plainly c 01.00.31 # BigBambi: Yes. All standard rates are supported for mp2/mp3 and wav, and for the latter we could even support arbitrary sample rates with a (not very difficult) trick 01.00.36 # With device specific code for drivers etc., obviously 01.00.50 # amiconn: Cool, I didn't realise that, thanks :) 01.01.06 # (standard rates 8, 11.025, 12, 16, 22.05, 24, 32, 44.1 and 48kHz) 01.01.41 # * amiconn even used his archos recorder once to produce a 96kHz s/pdif signal for testing H1x0 s/pdif recording 01.01.45 # boxerorange: All targets use C + some asm, but to clarify what I said, other than hardware specific code rockbox is not target specific 01.02.14 # ok, thanks! 01.02.17 # * BigBambi realises that may not have in fact clarified anything, and gives up 01.02.28 Join cendres [0] (n=ashes@modemcable123.78-80-70.mc.videotron.ca) 01.02.35 # boxerorange: No probs :) 01.02.38 # Hillshum: monochrome display doesn't mean you can't watch jpgs or video too with Rockbox (it isn't as "nice" as in colur maybe but it works) 01.02.59 # Playing an 48kHz mp3 file with the mas overclocked to 200% speed (just the pitch screen set to 200%) 01.03.11 # haha :) 01.04.04 # still... 01.04.24 Quit ashes (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 01.06.11 Quit robin0800 (" HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- In tests, 0x09 out of 0x0A l33t h4x0rz prefer it :)") 01.06.15 Join DrMoos [0] (i=moos@m170.net81-66-158.noos.fr) 01.06.58 Quit moos (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 01.06.59 Nick DrMoos is now known as moos (i=moos@m170.net81-66-158.noos.fr) 01.07.03 # regarding ipod accessories (and on 5g/5.5g) - does rockbox detect the accessory connected via pin 10, before enabling any power to the accessory? Also, reading http://www.ipodlinux.org/Dock_Connector suggests that pin17 is unused, but I may be on crack 01.10.11 Quit mirak (Remote closed the connection) 01.15.55 Part toffe82 01.18.25 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 01.22.19 # pin10 / pin21 depending how you number the dock port pins. seems there's two references out there for ipod docks.. 01.23.23 Quit Makuseru (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 01.26.01 Join Mouser_X [0] (n=mouser_x@layl001.digis.net) 01.33.38 Quit DerPapst (Nick collision from services.) 01.33.41 Join DerPapst [0] (n=DerPapst@p5B23C98B.dip.t-dialin.net) 01.37.29 Join misterP [0] (n=sdfg9s@host81-155-21-94.range81-155.btcentralplus.com) 01.37.37 # hai guys 01.39.07 # anyone around able to help? my ipod nano has rockbox on with dual boot (the thing where you turn on 'lock' during start to boot up to standard software). traditionally i've not been able to add songs to the pod without booting to the standard software, is this common? 01.39.35 # Yes, rockbox on the nano does not yet have a USB mode 01.39.38 # second of all, booting to standard no longer allows me to load shizzle (it just says "no formatting" blah blah), and i'm pretty boned 01.39.50 # I have no idea what shizzle is 01.39.55 # anything 01.40.01 # because it thinks the drive is RAW 01.40.19 # misterP: Could you retype that sentence in English? 01.40.20 # as in, cant copy anything onto it 01.40.38 Quit stripwax ("Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org") 01.40.48 # as in, it doesn't recognise the nano is formatted and contains files any more 01.40.52 # So when in USM mode in the original firmware, you cannot copy anything to the drive? 01.40.57 # yes 01.40.58 # *USB 01.41.05 # What OS do you use> 01.41.06 # ? 01.41.08 # xp 01.41.18 # Does it get assigned a drive letter> 01.41.24 # yep 01.41.33 # "would you like to format" when double clicking 01.41.35 # Could you try running chkdsk on it? 01.42.06 # running 01.43.00 # file system is RAW 01.43.04 # cannot check RAW 01.43.15 # OK 01.43.30 # I hope you have a backup for what is on there :) 01.43.37 # pff just songs 01.43.40 # reformat? 01.43.48 # thing is it still plays the songs fine 01.43.54 # Really> 01.43.56 # so it's bullshit claiming the fat is dead 01.43.57 # That is odd 01.44.34 # So it sounds like it is the USB that is the issue 01.44.45 # Could you try a different cable or PC? 01.44.55 # i could, one mo 01.45.37 # * DerPapst successfully broke 1dtetris and don't know why... 01.45.51 # maybe i should get some sleep and try again tomorrow :-P 01.46.27 # 1dtetris? is that intentionally stupid? 01.46.32 # computer says no btw 01.46.37 # new cable new computer 01.46.40 # still xp 01.46.41 # hmmm 01.46.43 # still RAW 01.47.17 # gaynano is gay 01.47.24 # Don't do that please 01.47.39 # .. 01.48.14 # "Nano doesn't have USB mode" means you can't connect it via USB with Rockbox? 01.48.26 # boxerorange: Currently, yes 01.48.31 # misterP: I guess you could try reformatting it or restoring it in itunes, but it is very curious that Rockbox and the OF can still read the drive 01.48.48 # boxerorange: Although that is being worked on, and you can dual boot 01.49.23 # does the OF/rockbox and the USB operate on the same fat? 01.49.58 # sure 01.50.11 # The main OF and the Rockbox bootloader exist in a separate firmware partition 01.50.30 # only reason i could think that one is fine and other isnt 01.50.35 # however they read/use the same fat partition 01.50.36 # The main Rockbox lives on the main data partition, along with the music 01.51.02 # misterP: I guess it is possible that the OF has become corrupted 01.51.09 # Have you tried emergency disk mode? 01.51.13 # no 01.51.20 # That lives in flash and is a separate USB mode 01.51.27 # howto? 01.51.47 # misterP: I believe you reset with menu + select then immediately hold menu+play for disk mode 01.51.57 # But the keys should be in the manual 01.52.16 # correct 01.52.22 # the keys i mean 01.52.30 # *does* 01.52.30 # err.. no... 01.52.37 # didnt work first time 01.52.40 # *does again* 01.52.55 # menu + select for reset and select + play for diskmode 01.52.59 # ...good thing my friend ended up /not/ putting it on his nano 01.53.02 # DerPapst: OK, cheers 01.53.09 # boxerorange: Why? 01.53.19 # * BigBambi doesn't actually own an iPod 01.53.38 # No USB mode. He doesn't have FireWire and would be annoyed having to switch 01.53.57 # boxerorange: Rockbox will automatically reboot to disk mode on cable insert 01.54.05 # And it dual boots anyway 01.54.06 # what has firewire to do with that? 01.54.08 # do you mean reset first, then hold sel+play on bootup? 01.54.13 # misterP: yes 01.54.13 # because no joy with that 01.54.14 # ys. 01.54.15 # oh, I see. cool. 01.54.24 # misterP: The timing can be fiddly 01.54.34 # got it :D 01.54.37 # cool 01.55.19 # "disk is not formatted" 01.55.21 # :( boo 01.55.29 # Bizarre 01.55.46 # what's best first, itunes recover or format? 01.55.52 # i dont care about my songs 01.55.58 # Don't know to be honest 01.56.16 # kk i'll do itunes thang first 01.56.16 # if you'd like to sync/use iTunes I'd do recover, otherwise just format 01.56.26 # ? 01.56.43 # meh itunes not even installed 01.56.51 # misterP: If itunes restore doesn't work I doubt formatting will 01.56.59 # cba i'll just format 01.57.17 # You might want to ask on an Apple forum too, as this isn't actually a Rockbox issue 01.57.18 # do i risk bricking it by formatting first? 01.57.27 # no 01.57.35 # *formats* 01.57.36 # uPods are almost unbrickable 01.57.40 # iPods even 01.58.10 # if you see a white progress bar below a silver apple do not reset the iPod though 01.58.15 # that will brick it ;-) 01.58.24 # you said that as i clicked format 01.58.47 # misterP: You will only see that if itunes is reflashing it 01.58.55 # oh 01.59.36 # the OF will still be on there after format right? so now i just need to reinstall rockbox 01.59.44 # yes 01.59.46 # yeah 01.59.53 # If USB works again 01.59.55 # okie should be all good now, it recognises the new format 02.00.02 # cheers for your help guys 02.00.04 # cool 02.00.07 # no worries 02.00.09 # OF? 02.00.21 # original firmware 02.00.31 # I was close...thought it was official 02.00.39 # could be I suppose 02.01.25 # as a thanks, treat yourself to some cool music - http://www.deezer.com/track/28367 02.01.37 Join m0f0x [0] (n=m0f0x@189-47-78-208.dsl.telesp.net.br) 02.05.28 Join webguest80 [0] (n=58a10615@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-7618744409515098) 02.07.15 # Good night guys 02.07.24 Quit misterP () 02.07.26 # * BigBambi should go to bed too 02.07.31 # night all 02.07.45 # night BigBambi 02.07.47 # :-) 02.07.52 Quit moos ("Home-->Holidays in Morrococo") 02.07.55 # night 02.08.03 # * DerPapst follows 02.08.12 # Night all :-) 02.08.15 Quit DerPapst ("So Long And Thanks For All The Fish!") 02.09.52 Part r0rshach 02.10.17 # hi, is there a specialist about e200tool and pre-boot mode ? we finish with a "*DANGER*, player might not be bootable now! Please retry!" 02.10.44 # actions and logs are here : http://dormrf.free.fr/toutsansa/viewtopic.php?id=236&p=10 02.11.36 Quit PaulJam (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 02.11.54 # Three month that we try to save his sansa :/ 02.16.49 Join misterP [0] (n=sdfg9s@host81-155-21-94.range81-155.btcentralplus.com) 02.16.53 # hey again 02.16.55 # still here? 02.17.04 # I'm here. 02.17.45 # dunno if you're interested, but it seems to be able to access the USB on rockbox now.. 02.18.16 # just that bigbambi was saying it couldnt 02.18.31 # It can't 02.18.36 # right 02.18.42 # It automatically reboots to emergency disk mode 02.18.46 # ah 02.18.49 # Which is apple code 02.18.49 # it sounded like he was saying that it couldn't natively, but would detect being pugged in... 02.18.51 # didnt do that before 02.18.55 # and you beat me to it 02.19.08 # misterP: It was broken for a bit, so if you have just updated... 02.19.19 # awesome, saves me having to reboot every time 02.19.54 # * BigBambi really goes to bed now 02.19.55 # anyway, that's all i wanted to say, later 02.20.25 Join webguest72 [0] (n=83ac630f@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-9c37c04d6ce8ea30) 02.22.26 Part pixelma 02.23.05 # Hi Guys....just a quick question if possible.....I was wondering if I need to worry about the battery on my gigabeat....Ive had it for over three years now with no sign of battery decay.....always says I have 13hrs47min when fully charged....is this normal....does the battery life indicator on rockbox change when the battery is degrading???? please help....thanks chris 02.23.28 # hey hey! I threw my ipod 4g at the ground a couple times while it click of death resetting and was at that "sad folder", and now it's working and I was able to restore the apple firmware and now rockbox and I have no read errors so far! 02.25.44 # i'm pretty sure their "remaining time" number is generated from generic figures for usage of your ipod and corresponding battery life 02.26.19 # therefore it won't take into account the lower effectiveness of older batteries 02.26.33 Join cool_walking_ [0] (n=notroot@203-59-129-195.perm.iinet.net.au) 02.26.49 # ohhhh....thanks....i thought it was too good to be true 02.27.21 # wait a sec though 02.27.25 # just researching on their forums 02.27.31 # can I take my own measure of the time and set that as the time left indicator 02.29.32 Quit webguest80 ("CGI:IRC") 02.29.42 # still looking! 02.29.46 # i havent left you 02.34.36 # meh 02.34.39 # not much use to be found 02.35.31 # ok it calculates battery remaining based on voltage i'm thinking 02.35.42 # so yeah time remaining is standard 02.36.36 # still doesnt help :P 02.37.42 # ahhh.....thanks......can I change the voltage setting so it will think the time remaining is less....thinking I could time a full discharge and set that as the time remaining....any ideas 02.37.59 # ok 02.38.06 # if you go to settings 02.38.20 # then general settings 02.38.21 # yup 02.38.26 # then system 02.38.34 # then battery 02.38.35 # yep 02.38.59 # allows you to change the battery capacity in mAh 02.39.11 # cool...thanks 02.39.20 # I really appreciate the time 02.39.38 # I mean your time....parden the pun 02.40.00 # ;) 02.40.16 # thanks again 02.40.42 # do you know how to find mAh? 02.40.45 # cos i'm just finding it for you.. 02.41.37 # gone? 02.41.46 # cos there's a plugin you can use to generate a neat curve. 02.41.52 Join kushal_12_27_200 [0] (n=kushal@12.169.180.134) 02.43.22 Join gromit` [0] (n=gromit@ALagny-154-1-2-185.w83-112.abo.wanadoo.fr) 02.44.04 Quit EspeonEefi ("さよなら") 02.46.35 # nahh.....Im here and I dont know how to find my mAh 02.46.53 # which plugin???? 02.47.29 # is that battery bench 02.48.46 Quit webguest72 ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 02.48.56 # Bagder: Present? 02.49.26 # how can I download very, very old builds of Firmware? 02.49.53 Join venox [0] (n=luiz@200-96-1-138.ctaje701.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) 02.50.05 # hey there. I'm having crashes on my iPod nano. 02.50.15 # "Data abort at 00008630" 02.50.22 # First Gen? 02.50.31 # yes. 02.50.49 # What are you trying to do? 02.50.55 # while playing music 02.51.05 Join EspeonEefi [0] (i=espeonee@STRATTON-ONE-EIGHTY-EIGHT.MIT.EDU) 02.51.10 # is happens randomly? or when you first pick a song? 02.51.17 # randomly 02.51.37 # boxerorange: I don't think you can download very very old builds. You'll have to grab the old source from SVN and build it yourself. 02.51.49 # it started since I've updated rockbox today 02.52.01 Join Mentalhead [0] (n=betrayed@c-24-12-80-167.hsd1.in.comcast.net) 02.52.05 # oh fun... 02.52.09 # (I was running rockbox without updating for about a month) 02.52.26 # did you *just* update it? 02.52.39 # boxerorange: Why do you want a very very old build? 02.53.08 # I'd like to have the first build *ever* for 5th Gen iPod because I'd like to look at the source 02.53.20 # updated and changed the rockbox theme to the new default (cabbiev2) 02.53.27 # boxerorange: well then you'd need the source anyway... 02.54.05 # yeah 02.55.17 # venox: my best guess it that you should try and update to the current firmware 02.55.34 Quit misterP () 02.55.44 # where could I get the source? 02.56.26 # do you know how to use SVN? 02.56.50 # I don't even know what that is, actually. 02.57.36 Join webguest32 [0] (n=83ac630f@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-58c81c463b8e5cd1) 02.57.42 # Okay, then read http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/DevelopmentGuide 02.59.01 # Hi all....from the batteryBenchmark plugin, was wondering how to calculate the mAh from the voltage????? 02.59.07 # please help 02.59.09 # thanks 02.59.32 Quit Mentalhead ("........") 03.00.46 # I'm guessing I should download Subversion? 03.01.04 # It's included in Cygwin/VMware/etc instructions 03.01.34 # But not the linux ones.. are you on Linux? 03.01.41 # Vista :( 03.02.36 # Yeah then just pick one of Cygwin, coLinux or VMware, and follow the respective link under "Setup Your Environment" 03.02.54 # it seems to me that most of the commands/directions/etc are all Linux-based. 03.03.13 # Should I put linux on my computer or is Cygwin enough? 03.03.30 # Yeah, Cygwin, coLinux and WMware all give you a Linux or Linux-like environment 03.03.48 # You don't have to use pure Linux, Cygwin/etc is fine 03.04.43 # ok. I was reading about dumping drives and tried some commands in the command prompt with no success :/ then I realized I was dumb 03.05.20 # Don't worry, you're not the first 03.06.39 # That "dd if=blah of=blah" stuff won't work in Cygwin/etc though. That *does* need real Linux. 03.07.05 # any disto is fine though? 03.07.05 # or Mac OS X or BSD 03.07.08 # Yeah 03.07.33 # because I might grab the crappy computer in my room and split the HD because I don't use it for anything else 03.08.02 # ... provided you've got some easy way of installing packages, like Debian 03.08.21 # I've got a router with one more free port 03.08.25 Quit Nico_P (Remote closed the connection) 03.08.46 # I just mean if you're new to Linux, just choose something Debian-based so you can install stuff easily. 03.09.35 # err.. but this is going off-topic 03.10.44 # I'd probably just try Ubuntu, since I already know it fairly well 03.11.24 # Ubuntu's fine 03.11.35 # That's what I'm using 03.14.35 Join Bensawsome [0] (n=upirc@rrcs-71-41-37-37.se.biz.rr.com) 03.14.40 # lol 03.14.46 Quit Bensawsome ("Leaving") 03.15.25 # hello 03.16.00 # hi 03.18.26 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 03.18.38 # ok, downloading ubuntu now...will probably not be able to install/move computer until tomorrow 03.19.34 # ok 03.20.06 # but I think I'm going to get VMware and attempt a dump of my iPod 03.21.34 Quit Zom (Remote closed the connection) 03.21.45 Join Zom [0] (n=zom@h-43-44.A166.cust.bahnhof.se) 03.22.37 Quit webguest32 ("CGI:IRC") 03.22.39 Join javaman [0] (n=Yifu@c-68-84-62-252.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) 03.22.41 # I don't think that will work 03.22.52 # I'm not sure though 03.23.14 # Because VMware is running inside Windows, it might not have the direct access to the iPod disk that the dd command needs 03.23.27 # isnt there a mirror hosted by rockbox for the cygwin installation? 03.23.57 # i tryed www.rockbox.org but no work 03.24.16 # hm, that could be 03.24.34 # nvm i found it in wiki 03.25.16 # it will work, if you're just making an image of the hdd 03.25.24 # because of vmware's usb passthrough 03.25.36 # it'll be slow though, since vmware is just usb 1.1 03.25.45 # except in the newest version 03.25.55 # but why not just get dd for windows? 03.27.53 # is gcc 3.4.4-3 the latest? 03.28.20 Quit EspeonEefi ("さよなら") 03.28.37 Quit Rincewind ("bye") 03.28.47 # where could I get it? 03.29.27 # interesting. 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Do we not pick those up as yellow? 09.35.51 # Audio books require continuous attention (or pausing/unpausing all the time) 09.36.10 # pondlife: we should! 09.36.34 # what gcc? 09.36.49 # ah 09.36.54 # "gcc version 3.4.4 (cygming special, gdc 0.12, using dmd 0.125)" 09.37.10 # we don't clean the tools 09.37.21 # so they're not rebuilt every build! 09.37.41 # Hmm, is that why the builds are so fast? :) 09.37.41 # "make[1]: `scramble' is up to date. " in the build logs 09.38.04 # That's fair enough - it'll pick up updates. 09.38.09 # yes 09.38.12 # So we had a one-off yellow..? 09.38.31 # I guess, but I can't recall having seen that one 09.38.48 # I thought I fixed all the warnings when I did that commit work 09.39.19 Quit homielowe ("ChatZilla 0.9.81 [Firefox 2.0.0.12/2008020710]") 09.40.09 # Hopefully I just got rid of the gappy build table too... or pushed the gap to the bottom, at least. 09.40.28 # Ah, no... it extended further (for now). 09.41.07 # pondlife: it's also got a construct in dsp_process I'm not crazy about - function pointer is a better choice 09.41.20 # we need to get rid of the gap to stop me from thinking I need to do something about it ;-) 09.41.38 # B4gder: I'm sure I can find something in my pile-o-patches... :) 09.46.37 # Hmm, how about a tagnavi.config tweak to make it consistently use plural forms? Database > Album vs. Database > A to Z... > Albums has annoyed me for a while now. 09.46.54 # The ... is a bit annoying too. 09.47.00 # if we wanted the tools to rebuild at every commit, we'd need to change them to get built in the build dir too 09.47.09 # and I don't think we're ready for that 09.47.36 # Wooh, no (obvious) gap 09.52.52 # * jhMikeS doesn't like what that patch does to the DSP 10.03.19 # It works fine on H300 though 10.03.25 # Pity it's mono only... 10.04.06 # My main issue is the massive buffers and their removal from IRAM. 10.04.47 # Indeed. 10.05.06 # 150% speed + 66.6% pitch is quite fun. 10.05.34 # Not sure I'd want to listen to it like this often though 10.15.28 Quit fisherman (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 10.16.50 Quit JdGordon (Remote closed the connection) 10.17.03 Join JdGordon [0] (i=jonno@c211-28-93-8.smelb1.vic.optusnet.com.au) 10.17.06 Join DerDome [0] (n=DerDome@dslb-082-083-239-104.pools.arcor-ip.net) 10.22.39 Join tvelocity [0] (n=tony@79.131.72.83) 10.23.30 Join Zagor [242] (n=bjst@46.35.227.87.static.tab.siw.siwnet.net) 10.23.43 Quit mrkiko (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 10.30.19 Join ompaul [0] (n=ompaul@gnewsense/friend/ompaul) 10.39.04 Quit cool_walking_ (Remote closed the connection) 10.42.17 Join gevaerts [0] (n=fg@195-144-092-174.dyn.adsl.xs4all.be) 10.44.14 Join Mathiasdm [0] (n=Mathias@vpnj119.ugent.be) 10.49.30 Join mrkiko [0] (n=mrkiko@host177-100-static.32-88-b.business.telecomitalia.it) 10.58.14 Join DefineByte [0] (n=defineby@bb-87-81-195-5.ukonline.co.uk) 11.02.04 # quit 11.02.10 Part linux_manju 11.05.48 Join aliask [0] (n=aliask@rockbox/developer/aliask) 11.06.45 Nick fxb__ is now known as fxb (n=felixbru@h1252615.stratoserver.net) 11.08.24 # FUCK JOE BOROWSKI 11.08.34 # wrong channel 11.08.35 Part asdrubal 11.08.48 Quit XavierGr () 11.09.20 # common mistake... :-P 11.12.41 Join XavierGr [0] (n=xavier@rockbox/staff/XavierGr) 11.14.05 Quit Mathiasdm ("Yuuw!") 11.18.37 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 11.25.31 Join OlivierBorowski [0] (n=OlivierB@ANancy-157-1-87-182.w86-218.abo.wanadoo.fr) 11.33.02 Quit DefineByte ("Bye all") 11.33.25 Join Mathiasdm [0] (n=Mathias@vpna051.ugent.be) 11.36.46 # the noise level on the mentor list is... high 11.36.54 # gsoc mentor that is 11.40.27 # indeed 11.42.59 Join MethoS- [0] (n=clemens@host-091-096-212-092.ewe-ip-backbone.de) 11.44.04 # What are you complaining about ? There were at least three useful mails on it 11.45.26 # * gevaerts doesn't mention the 800+ less useful mails 11.46.10 # you should just read it on the google groups web application ... that way you don't get the spam in your inbox 11.47.02 # It doesn't reach my inbox, it goes straight to the gsoc mailbox 11.49.41 Join MethoS-- [0] (n=clemens@host-091-096-210-181.ewe-ip-backbone.de) 11.53.31 # is http://pastebin.ca/985801 in button.h not a good idea? (or more.. anoying checks which probably arnt going to be needed? making the file a bit iritating to read?) 11.55.26 # gevaerts: do you know which controller registers have to be set up for device mode and what values they should have? the module is in a default state on S. (I did get to a "USB device not recognized" point so far). 11.56.39 Quit Mathiasdm ("Yuuw!") 11.56.55 # jhMikeS: usb_drv_init() should handle that part 12.00.16 # jhMikeS: and that's called (indirectly) from usb.c, via usb_enable() and usb_core_init(). Do you already have a working usb_detect() ? If not, maybe just make one that always returns USB_INSERTED 12.00.26 # gevaerts: of course. I know it at least has to be explicitely switched to ULPI so I know the OF does not set up the controller for us. I thought you might be know enough to initialize it from scratch. 12.01.28 # jhMikeS: I don't see anything missing in usb_drv_init() 12.03.58 # The switch to ULPI mode is missing for one. (it is not by default) 12.04.28 # Yes, but apart from that 12.05.51 # jhMikeS: is PTW in PORTSC1 set correctly ? 12.08.57 # not sure 12.09.02 Quit MethoS- (Success) 12.09.27 # I think it must be 0 (8-bit) 12.10.14 # At least if I understood the block diagram correctly 12.12.56 # * jhMikeS will dump the reg contents again 12.13.08 Join mrkiko_ [0] (n=mrkiko@host177-100-static.32-88-b.business.telecomitalia.it) 12.13.21 Quit mrkiko ("Reconnecting") 12.13.59 Nick mrkiko_ is now known as mrkiko (n=mrkiko@host177-100-static.32-88-b.business.telecomitalia.it) 12.17.06 # the default values is CC000004 12.17.57 # * gevaerts checks what that means 12.19.31 # wow, a time stretcher 12.20.54 # the 8-bit interface is correct for the ISP1504 btw 12.21.12 # I think only PTS should be changed then 12.21.48 # What setting - 10 = ULPI? 12.22.02 # I would think so, yes 12.24.09 # ISP1504 says it's "UTMI+". I guess I'll try that too. 12.25.00 # preglow: where? 12.25.59 # jhMikeS: what does REG_HWGENERAL contain ? 12.26.06 Quit MethoS-- (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 12.26.26 # markun: 8894 12.27.04 # * jhMikeS will check that 12.27.12 # jhMikeS: at some point I think you'll also have to read REG_HWDEVICE to find out how many endpoints it supports. 12.29.16 Quit tedrock (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 12.31.14 # hah, it works great 12.33.12 Join tedrock [0] (n=tedrock@d235-144-17.home1.cgocable.net) 12.33.20 # cool 12.33.34 Join DerPapst [0] (n=DerPapst@dhcp-25-221.fh-friedberg.de) 12.33.42 # tried it on speech? 12.33.53 # yep 12.33.56 # sounds as i'd expect 12.34.10 # gevaerts: HWGENERAL = 0x000005c5, HWDEVICE = 0x00000011 12.34.31 # you get comb artifacs, but that's to be expected from a time stretcher for our use 12.35.09 # it'd primarily be a speech thing, it does some weird things to some music 12.35.18 # because of the combing artifacts, i'd wager 12.35.28 # Using ULPI it freezes, using UTMI/UTMI+ it never enters the usb screen. :\ 12.36.39 # yeah, it seriously messes up some frequencies 12.37.35 # preglow: It's pretty good though. 12.37.45 # yeah, decent enough 12.37.48 # You able to understand what it does? 12.38.00 # looking at it afterwards, but if it's wsola, i think i do anyway 12.38.13 # I think I might need quite a lot of reading to get there :/ 12.38.18 # nah, it's a simple scheme 12.38.30 # * pondlife is simple too 12.38.39 # you just overlap and add segments of the audio based on an auto-correlation analysis or something like it 12.39.02 # You lost me at about "segments" ;) 12.39.13 # it just isolates certain parts of the audio 12.40.07 # So, it needs to use a dedicated buffer for processing, and perhaps some optimisation, before it could be committed? 12.40.16 # i'll have a look at it later and know 12.40.27 # but yeah, it'll have to stop using the resampler buffer 12.40.40 # and i wonder if we should unify this and the old pitch changer 12.40.50 # perhaps make it a setting if you want this or that behaviour 12.40.57 Quit Zagor ("Client exiting") 12.40.59 # I think so. Although it'll need an option to persist the setting or not. 12.41.07 # sure, not a problem 12.41.23 # One thought I had earlier; how does dsp.c interact with voice? 12.41.25 # i think it should persist, really 12.41.28 # always 12.41.36 # i see no reason for anything else 12.41.38 # I wouldn't mind, but some people would 12.41.53 # pondlife: interact as in how? voice passes through it like any audio 12.42.06 # That's a pity, but unavoidable I guess 12.42.18 # ahhh 12.42.20 # no, we can fix that 12.42.25 # there are separate states 12.42.26 # We'd don't want to timestretch voice 12.42.38 # jhMikeS has done a good job of that 12.42.46 # I think of dsp as a mixer's channel strip, is that reasonable? 12.42.48 # time stretching piano is such a bitch :P 12.42.48 # i.e. dsp.c 12.42.49 # screwing it up? 12.42.56 # hehe 12.43.05 # pondlife: as of now that is a wee bit unreasonable, yes 12.43.15 # I mean, as a model to aim for... 12.43.17 # there is no point at all in stretching the voice 12.43.18 # but we'd like it to be that way some day 12.43.24 # * gevaerts is confused 12.43.25 # My expectations are realistic. 12.43.32 # LinusN: nah, people tend to speed up voice snippets manually anwyay 12.43.35 # anyway too! 12.43.50 # exactly 12.44.12 # The voice quality needs all the help it can get, not get butchered :) 12.44.13 # jhMikeS: those values don't seem to make sense... 12.44.22 # the "voice" he is referring to in the flyspray task is audiobooks 12.44.33 Join agm3nt [0] (n=opera@bartek.tu.kielce.pl) 12.44.39 # gevaerts: that's what they are though 12.44.53 # jhMikeS: Are you compiling with USE_HIGH_SPEED ? that might change some behaviour 12.44.58 # no 12.45.01 # arg.. crap... 12.45.05 # yes I'm fixing it... 12.45.15 # JdGordon: I knew you weren't colourblind :) 12.45.45 # stupid plugins are being compiled :'( 12.46.01 # HWDEVICE seems to indicate that there are 8 endpoints (which is great. PP only has 3) 12.47.37 # this thing does do some 64 bit maths, and that can be optimized 12.47.57 # ULPI/ULPI+ must be correct though because a wrong setting or the trasnceiver not CS'ed causing a hard lock 12.48.15 # *causes 12.48.25 # I agree there 12.48.29 Join Mathiasdm [0] (n=Mathias@238.131-136-217.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be) 12.48.38 Join PaulJam [0] (i=PaulJam_@vpn-3049.gwdg.de) 12.48.56 # now it connects (from the rb viewpoint) but never enters the screen and for some reason...I'm also not getting logf messages :\ 12.49.26 # which seems to just be something werid with logf itself here 12.49.57 # No usb screen means that either USB_STORAGE is not defined in usb_core.h (if you didn't change that, it is defined), or no control request comes in from the host 12.51.52 # * DerPapst seems to have finished his 2nd gsoc test app :-P 12.52.37 Join Mathiasdm2 [0] (n=Mathias@238.131-136-217.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be) 12.52.49 Quit Mathiasdm (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 12.53.47 # we have way too many plugins :p 12.54.40 # * gevaerts gets ready to play 12.54.52 # rockbox is all about games ;-) 12.55.55 # oops...no USB_STORAGE define :p 12.56.17 # Not really a problem, but then you won't get the usb screen 12.56.29 # Are you on linux ? 12.56.40 # no 12.56.59 # I try it with that enabled though and see what happens 12.57.47 # on windows I don't know where to look for information on how far it gets 13.02.52 # what sort of tool should I try to track down? 13.04.02 # I'm not sure. there are some software tracers, but I don't know how well they work before you have seen anything 13.04.29 # * gevaerts is spoiled by having access to hardware tracrs 13.05.06 # but if you get logf working, the logf output from usb_core.c should be interesting 13.05.34 # * jhMikeS can't imagine what was done here that it isn't working :\ 13.05.38 # * JdGordon hopes the d2 people dont decide to kill him :p 13.06.39 # * pondlife encourages the d2 people :p 13.07.00 # * gevaerts hands out pitchforks and flaming torches 13.07.08 # I've already had the Swedish hitman go for me. 13.07.31 # And for lesser crimes than a bit of red, I should add :) 13.07.48 # did he force you to listen to ABBA for a whole day? 13.07.51 Quit Mathiasdm2 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 13.08.05 # B4gder: Sadly not 13.08.22 # we need better trained hitmen! 13.08.31 # jhMikeS: If you want me to test some stuff under linux feel free to fire a patch off to me. 13.08.32 # * pondlife hopes he gets to do a "Ladies and Gentleman" post one day :) 13.08.41 # Oh, that sort of hit 13.09.54 # aliask - sure thing 13.10.41 # Not defining HAVE_USB_CHARGING should have no ill effect right? 13.10.58 # not as far as I know 13.11.07 # *HAVE_USB_POWER of course 13.12.15 Join Mathiasdm [0] (n=Mathias@238.131-136-217.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be) 13.12.30 # gevaerts: is there any udelay stuff in there (it won't work here) 13.12.44 # I made the reset a sleep but that's all 13.14.50 # there is an udelay in usb_init_device() 13.15.11 # Does current_tick work ? 13.15.13 # I made that sleep(HZ/20) already 13.17.01 # There's one more udelay, but that should never be reached (usb_drv_set_test_mode()) 13.18.40 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 13.19.05 # jhMikeS: Also avaliable for linux testing etc. if needed :) 13.19.18 # http://jhmikes.cleansoap.org/gigabeat-S-UMS.diff 13.20.00 # on it! 13.22.03 # oops, forgot svn up 13.22.11 # jhMikeS: What output would you like? 13.22.35 # BigBambi: dmesg output after pluging in would be useful 13.22.42 # righto 13.23.56 # gevaerts, jhMikeS: http://www.pastebin.ca/985870 13.23.59 # BigBambi: ask gevaerts what output is most useful. I don't even know what to look for. 13.24.46 # btw, MrH originally had udelays in the some timeout code which were replaced with counts. Those will definitely execute too quickly here. 13.24.58 # BigBambi: can you try with USE_HIGH_SPEED ? 13.25.06 # gevaerts: Sure, one mo 13.26.29 # jhMikeS: the current code loops until current_ticks has increased enough 13.26.59 # it's called in thread context? current_tick won't change if you're already in a handler. 13.27.24 # gevaerts: I'm getting "hub 1-0:1.0: Cannot enable port 3. Maybe the USB cable is bad?" - any ideas? 13.27.30 # the usb interrupt handlr doesn't wait at all 13.27.44 # aliask: can you try without a hub ? 13.28.01 # It's plugged straight into the motherboard. 13.28.13 # then maybe with USE_HIGH_SPEED ? 13.28.38 # in config-gigabeat-s.h? 13.29.21 # that's a good place to put it, yes 13.29.33 # gevaerts: http://www.pastebin.ca/985872 13.29.40 # That is with USE_HIGH_SPEED 13.29.51 # * jhMikeS should check the usb pll settings in the SoC too 13.30.32 # what is error -71? 13.30.55 # I _think_ timeout. Let me check 13.31.16 # quick reboot, one mo 13.31.28 Quit BigBambi (Remote closed the connection) 13.32.53 # protocol error 13.33.16 Quit mrkiko (Remote closed the connection) 13.33.18 Quit DerPapst (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 13.33.46 Quit axionix (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 13.33.47 # It basically means that the get_descriptor control request failed 13.34.20 # are just two buffers used with UNCACHED_ADDR? 13.35.10 Join BigBambi [0] (n=Alex@rockbox/staff/BigBambi) 13.35.23 Quit Mathiasdm (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 13.35.32 Join Mathiasdm [0] (n=Mathias@238.131-136-217.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be) 13.35.34 # Damn thing decided it needed to check my disks on start up 13.35.49 # yes and no. response_data and whatever descriptor is sent 13.35.59 # It's in only two places though 13.36.40 # td_array and qh_array? 13.36.52 # * gevaerts forgot about those 13.38.02 # Yes, in usb-drv-pp502x.c those are the only two uncached ones. You might try putting them in IRAM if you have some available 13.39.58 # * jhMikeS thinks he messed something up here 13.40.16 # Nice little bugette - when playback ends naturally, if you press PLAY again, you get a second chance to hear the last three seconds of the last track again. 13.40.38 # That'll be the index synchronising problem again, I guess. 13.41.27 Join Nico_P [50] (n=nicolas@rockbox/developer/NicoP) 13.41.50 # Nico_P: Hi, I just noticed a tiny bug... check the logs? 13.42.03 # ok 13.42.13 # Reaally tiny, honest. 13.42.58 # pondlife: oh yes, amiconn noticed it too 13.43.07 # I know why it occurs 13.43.10 # What's surprising is it won't do it a second time 13.43.27 # yes 13.43.37 # Resume position is saved before the index is increased? 13.43.47 # I need to refresh my memory, just a sec 13.44.22 # I guess it'lll be fixed if the playlist index only increases at WPS transition. 13.46.43 # pondlife: it's caused by playback.c:1982 13.47.34 # heh, I could have guessed it would be audio_check_new_track() without even looking 13.48.08 # :) 13.48.30 # because of that line, after the last track skip, playlist_end is false, which means audio_stop_playback will save resume info for a track instead of NULL 13.48.52 # the fix would be to remove that line, but there might be side effects on a codec change 13.49.00 # I still need to test 13.49.26 # playlist_end should be removed really 13.49.30 # I agree 13.49.49 # It's only tested in the one place. 13.49.51 # with the new "filling" state var, I was on the verge of removing it 13.50.15 # but I didn't fully understand it, so I decided to keep it to avoid adding new bugs 13.50.23 # I think I understand it much better now 13.50.28 # Isn't filling related to the buffering side, not the playback side? 13.50.40 # playlist_end is too 13.51.00 # it's set to true when the last track of the playlist is buffered 13.51.18 # Wacky 13.51.34 # It's only checked in audio_stop_playback() 13.51.39 # yes 13.52.00 # I think it's strictly equivalent to filling == STATE_FINISHED 13.52.22 # Ah, ok - so that test is stopping the codec when there's no more data? 13.53.02 # it's also supposed to have id3 == NULL when playlist_end is true 13.53.17 # That should all come out in the wash 13.53.24 # I hope so 13.53.43 # gevaerts: if it gets that far it means the ISR would have to be functioning? 13.54.01 # I want to fix the problem in audio_current_track for back skipping, and then go back to rewriting audio_check_new_track 13.54.18 # but I have less time for rockbox these days 13.54.30 # jhMikeS: not necessarily. It means that there is an electrical connection, 13.54.41 # Nico_P: It happens to us all :) 13.55.21 # I saw MarcGuay also reported a bug with my latest changes 13.55.36 # but I'm a bit worried at seeing the "full speed" there. It might mean the the phy (i.e. the isp1504) is not initialized properly 13.56.40 # Nico_P: Yes, but I can't repro that.. FLAC only I guess? 13.56.44 # maybe 13.56.46 # * pondlife has no FLACs 13.57.01 # I think I have some of amiconn's left on the video 13.58.30 # hmm yeah I got it to start skipping all tracks one by one 13.58.39 # gevaerts: It tries high speed. I thought the protocol itself dealt with the registers on that IC. In fact it says not to write them throught the ULPI window 13.59.20 # Nico_P: Maybe your ogg fix borked FLAC? 13.59.22 # jhMikeS: it shouldn't be needed, but for some unknown reason high speed doesn't work at all 13.59.25 Join PaulJam_ [0] (i=PaulJam_@vpn-3049.gwdg.de) 14.01.12 # pondlife: I think it's more likely to be with the buffering rework 14.01.30 # I had similar problems before but I thought I had fixed them... shouldn't be too hard to find though 14.01.33 # Probably, I was being hopeful 14.01.51 Join midgey [0] (n=tjross@westquad-188-46.reshall.umich.edu) 14.01.52 # It's working fine for MP3s here so please don't revert it all :) 14.03.49 Join knittl [0] (n=knittl@193.170.135.103) 14.10.40 Quit PaulJam (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 14.10.53 Join Thundercloud [0] (n=thunderc@84-51-130-71.judith186.adsl.metronet.co.uk) 14.10.56 Nick PaulJam_ is now known as PaulJam (i=PaulJam_@vpn-3049.gwdg.de) 14.17.39 # I actually get far enough that it fires an OTG interrupt if using ULPI 14.17.50 # but then it freezes 14.18.24 # Can you see what sort of interrupt (in REG_USBINTR) ? 14.19.32 # will check that 14.20.04 # it tries to enter the USB screen and freezes at that point 14.20.31 # no graphic (maybe just bad address access) 14.20.48 # If it tries to enter the USB screen, that means it got a correct packet from the host 14.21.03 # REG_USBINTR or REG_USBSTS? 14.21.39 # * jhMikeS will provide another patch to log 14.22.41 # REG_USBSTS. Sorry 14.22.59 # * gevaerts is using most of his brain elsewhere 14.23.33 # Nico_P: I got rid of playlist_end completely and it seems to still work.. have tried mp3/ogg only though 14.23.39 # http://jhmikes.cleansoap.org/gigabeat-S-UMS2.diff <= will lock the player :) 14.23.59 # jhMikeS: On it 14.24.36 # jhMikeS: revert the previous first? 14.24.38 # pondlife: there might be a few edge cases to check 14.24.44 # BigBambi: yes 14.24.45 # I'm sure there are... 14.24.48 # It might just be some mem access miscellany 14.24.49 Join michael1486 [0] (n=michael1@c-69-138-131-90.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) 14.24.52 # gevaerts, jhMikeS With or without high speed? 14.25.05 # beh try high speed :) 14.25.08 # Nico_P: Also, I'm only on a sim 14.25.08 # Can you do both ? 14.25.14 # sure 14.25.18 # Does anyone know who works/worked on rockboy? 14.25.34 # michael1486: nobody is 14.25.35 # jhMikeS: "no graphic" is probably the same problem as with icons and bitmaps in plugins 14.25.58 # really? 14.26.04 # yes really 14.26.12 # it's been at this state for a long time by now 14.26.36 # michael1486: Perhaps you would like to take it on? 14.26.57 # we have a vacancy in the rockboy department! 14.27.00 # i dont know much about it but i could try.... 14.27.26 Join Mathiasdm2 [0] (n=Mathias@238.131-136-217.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be) 14.28.01 # didn't kkburjun work on rockboy ? 14.28.48 # he did 14.28.49 # jhMikeS, gevaerts: With HIGH_SPEED: http://www.pastebin.ca/985926 - the player didn't lock up though 14.28.54 # and midgey did some too apparently 14.29.34 # 14 months since the last somewhat bigger change 14.29.39 # how hard is it to make a program work with greyscale? 14.30.17 Quit Mathiasdm (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 14.30.21 # michael1486: that's a very general question that can only get a very general answer 14.30.43 # "a program" being rockboy you mean? 14.30.52 Join n1s [0] (n=nils@rockbox/developer/n1s) 14.31.44 # Someone can close FS#7318 14.31.45 # BigBambi: did the screen switch? 14.31.47 Join Mathiasdm [0] (n=Mathias@238.131-136-217.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be) 14.31.52 # Nico_P: Shall I pop a patch up, or commit, or neither... 14.32.01 # jhMikeS: No 14.32.13 # yes. would it be hard to take a greyscale module and put it in rockboy? 14.32.22 # pondlife: I'd like to see the patch... does it fix the stop issue too? 14.32.25 # Yes 14.32.27 # It won't draw the transparent bitmaps though but the menu should disappear (does here) 14.32.41 Quit Mathiasdm (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 14.32.52 Join Mathiasdm [0] (n=Mathias@238.131-136-217.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be) 14.32.55 # gevaerts, jhMikeS And without HIGH_SPEED: http://www.pastebin.ca/985930 (still screen change/lockup) 14.32.56 # Nico_P: http://www.pastebin.ca/985931 14.33.02 # michael1486: I believe it already works on some greyscale targets 14.33.14 # jhMikeS: I'll try a full revert and repatch to make sure 14.33.15 # All that does is remove playlist_end, literally 14.33.32 # I've tried a playlist with ogg + mp3 + wma and all seemed fine (on sim) 14.33.45 # i mean for ipod.... 14.33.55 Quit Mathiasdm2 (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 14.34.01 # pondlife: yeah, I don't see why it wouldn't be fine 14.34.09 # * jhMikeS should probably fix the transparent bitmaps now 14.34.10 # pondlife: have you tried stopping manually? 14.34.13 # Yes 14.34.27 # michael1486: which ipod? 14.34.34 # Not tried auto-dir change yet.... 14.34.40 Quit aliask ("ChatZilla 0.9.81 [Firefox 2.0.0.13/2008032514]") 14.34.47 # mini 14.35.03 # Nor repeat 14.35.13 # BigBambi: are the first 4 lines from an OF connection ? 14.35.36 # michael1486: afaik the problem with the mini is, that noone implemented downscaling for screenresolution. 14.35.47 # gevaerts: Ah yes, might be 14.35.48 # Sorry 14.35.52 # pondlife: I had done the same change, and like you didn't see any problems. I guess you could commit 14.36.09 # Repeat works, I'll just try auto dir change. 14.36.10 # I forgot I reconnected inbetween and just copied from the end of the previous 14.36.13 # Any other cases? 14.36.25 # manual dir change, but I don't see why that would break 14.36.30 # couldent i take the greyscale module form mpeg player? 14.36.47 # Nico_P: You mean skip dir? That's fine 14.36.54 # BigBambi: are you using USE_HIGH_SPEED correctly ? 14.37.12 # pondlife: yeah, that's what I meant... I say commit then :) 14.37.25 # gevaerts: I put a #define USE_HIGH_SPEED in firmware/export/config-gigabeat-s.h 14.37.33 # ok. that should be fine 14.37.44 # * Nico_P goes to shower and will try to fix FS#8893 after that 14.37.48 # * gevaerts doesn't understand why it still always connects at full speed 14.38.01 # gevaerts: I'll try again just to make sure 14.38.23 # Nico_P: It's done... 14.38.59 # is there something that has to be changed in order for current_vp to be defined? 14.39.18 Join FOAD_ [0] (n=dok@dinah.blub.net) 14.41.58 # strange to have an undefined reference to it 14.42.01 # PaulJam, michael1486: Nobody implemented either general or special scaling routines for the greyscale ipod's pixel packing 14.42.34 # There are general scaling routines for colour, and special ones for iriver H1x0 + iaudio M5, and for archos recorder 14.43.00 # i can play movies on my mini though..... 14.43.14 # Sure 14.43.29 # * amiconn is mr. greyscale library 14.43.30 # the movies don't have to be resized/scaled 14.43.55 # no but i do it to save space.... 14.44.39 Join LambdaCalculus37 [0] (n=44a0430f@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-eac751462e519413) 14.44.56 Part B4gder 14.44.57 # i meant that you do the resizing on the pc, so rockbox doesn't have to do any resizing when playing back the video 14.45.28 # yes i have done itt with bigger movies but not the small ones... 14.46.05 # ah, nm, it was static'ed in lcd-16bit.c 14.46.17 # gevaerts, jhMikeS http://www.pastebin.ca/985944 14.48.14 # There is something wrong at the PHY level. It should _never_ detect or try low speed 14.48.31 Quit tedrock (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 14.49.35 # hmmm 14.50.56 Quit FOAD (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 14.50.57 Nick FOAD_ is now known as FOAD (n=dok@dinah.blub.net) 14.51.17 # jhMikeS: If you read the logs, I had mentioned that compiling a Gigabeat S bootloader from source had failed. 14.52.27 # LambdaCalculus37: I hadn't yet. BTW, what failed exactly? 14.52.42 # if it's logged i'll just look 14.52.53 # It's logged. I hope the pastebin is still there. 14.53.13 # jhMikeS: bootloader build failure for me: http://www.pastebin.ca/985948 14.53.40 # ah, that's np to fix 14.54.16 # config.h just isn't defining the presence of that kernel object 14.54.23 # BigBambi: Yes, that's the same error I got. 14.54.45 Quit Mathiasdm ("Yuuw!") 14.55.27 # smaller in mb not in resolution... 14.58.35 Quit miepchen^schlaf () 14.59.01 Join Rincewind [0] (n=Flubb@i528C390E.versanet.de) 15.01.31 # michael1486: if the resolution of the movie doesn't match the screens resolution, then the movie either gets cropped or doesn't fill the whole screen. mpegplayer doesn't do any scaling. 15.02.16 # too bad.... 15.02.35 # how hard would it be to do it from scratch? 15.03.15 # i guess that highly depends on your skills. 15.03.59 # i stink.....but i have c++ for dummies.....i might be able to do it............. 15.04.07 # michael1486: On the fly scaling would be pretty hard work for our limited CPUs.... 15.04.27 # what about modified roms? 15.05.21 # gameboy roms? 15.05.26 # And what about them? 15.05.45 # i doubt that this would work, rockboy just emulates the gameboy hardware. 15.06.00 # couldent you modify them to be greyscale/smaller? 15.06.38 # gameboy advance only has like 5 or 6 mgz.... 15.06.52 # Plus everything else 15.06.59 # Rubbish. The GBA is a 16 MHz ARM7 CPU. 15.07.06 # Emulation is very hard work 15.07.35 # i checked out the gba linux page.... 15.07.36 # michael1486: And what does size of the ROM itself have to do with anything? 15.08.10 # the smaller the size the less data to be processed... 15.08.34 # michael1486: No, that is irrelevant. 15.08.36 # Ummmm 15.08.57 # A Game Boy ROM can be 128KB is size. That doesn't mean "less data to be processed". 15.08.58 # well you could mod the pictures within the rom? 15.09.50 # is'nt the rom a compression medium? 15.10.46 # That doesn't change anything. 15.11.15 # michael1486: Before you say anything else, I suggest you go and read up more on the subject. 15.11.26 # you could mod the rom so you wouldent need to greyscale it.... 15.11.29 # sorrt 15.11.33 # sorry 15.13.00 # michael1486: Modding the ROM is *not* (I repeat... *is not*) going to change the fact that we still need a greyscale library for Rockbox. 15.13.43 # how could i get/make that? 15.13.49 Join ByeongKeon [0] (n=skysign@221.150.30.39) 15.14.30 Part LinusN 15.14.58 # The greyscale library is already in the source, but it's only needed for devices that have a greyscale or monochrome LCD. 15.15.28 # ok 15.15.33 # thanks 15.18.43 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 15.19.08 # * LambdaCalculus37 wants to get back to checking out the Gigabeat S work 15.20.38 # bye and thanks to all! 15.20.40 Part michael1486 15.24.07 Join Rince_ [0] (i=tiFaINqb@nat-wh-1.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de) 15.24.14 Nick shenson_not_here is now known as shenson (n=shenson@nat/redhat/x-8d2d9b67ba79f9d0) 15.27.04 Join PaulJam_ [0] (i=PaulJam_@vpn-3050.gwdg.de) 15.40.02 Quit Rincewind (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 15.43.23 Join Mathiasdm [0] (n=Mathias@vpnh168.ugent.be) 15.45.13 Quit PaulJam (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 15.46.45 # gevaerts : HI. 15.47.28 # hello 15.47.35 Quit midgey () 15.47.38 # gevaerts : I update my assessment. now, it can display P3 PPM file to LCD. 15.47.42 # gevaerts : I left URL(http://skysign.dyndns.org/ppmviewer April 15 1300 UTC.zip) on my application. 15.48.31 # ByeongKeon: thanks. 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Here's what Wikipedia has to say about this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infra-Red#Communications 17.37.26 # A little OT: I read that it's possible to record an IR signal as a WAV file and play it back on a DAP. Some people have tested this with Tamagotchi communication signals. Google for more info. 17.37.47 # * LambdaCalculus37 returns to our regularly scheduled program, already in progress. :) 17.39.05 Join herrwaldo [0] (n=waldo@ip-81-11-206-188.dsl.scarlet.be) 17.41.21 Quit MethoS-- (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 17.41.26 Quit petur ("gone for some sports") 17.41.39 Join MethoS-- [0] (n=clemens@host-091-096-212-205.ewe-ip-backbone.de) 17.44.08 # * pondlife wants to see the top row of the build table fill in as soon as the particular build is done... 17.44.16 # Instant red spotting 17.44.28 # None of this suspense 17.45.14 Join DerPapst [0] (n=Der@p5B23D898.dip.t-dialin.net) 17.46.45 # pondlife: The reds are declaring an error in line 343 of rolo.c. 17.47.00 # Not any more 17.47.46 # I mean, while the build is in progress, it would be nice if the top line (grey) could fill in block-by- block. Probably kill the build server bandwidth though :) 17.48.23 Join kugel [0] (n=kugel@unaffiliated/kugel) 17.48.55 Join pixelma [0] (n=d5494c7e@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 17.48.55 # Ah, no more red. :) 17.50.41 # Having mopped up that red, I am now in credit so can add my own red later... 798 points to spend, I reckon. ;) 17.51.13 # Have fun with them ;) 17.51.29 # I'll probably spend them on Archos sims (again) 17.53.29 Join TMM [0] (n=hp@c514753fe.cable.wanadoo.nl) 17.56.33 Quit pixelma ("CGI:IRC") 17.56.38 Join pixelma [0] (n=d5494c7e@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 17.57.44 Quit MethoS- (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 17.58.05 Join MethoS- [0] (n=clemens@91.97.240.149) 17.59.22 # amiconn: are you here? 18.02.00 # eek red 18.02.11 # Fear not 18.02.30 # You may have a (void)i that need an #ifdef still, but I did a quick mop 18.02.51 # pondlife: thanks. 18.03.05 # No worries, you have enough good work to do elsewhere anyway 18.03.20 # * jhMikeS had to haul out of here for a bit 18.04.54 Quit gevaerts ("work->home") 18.05.16 Join bluebrother [0] (n=dom@rockbox/staff/bluebrother) 18.07.33 # well one warning is back but it's not so bothersome I guess 18.11.15 Quit DerDome ("Leaving.") 18.12.12 Quit pixelma ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)") 18.14.38 Quit MethoS-- (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 18.14.42 Join MethoS-- [0] (n=clemens@91.97.241.146) 18.14.51 Join pixelma [0] (n=d5494c7e@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 18.16.08 # * jhMikeS finally figures out Nico_P make logf disabled by default in a logf build :\ 18.16.26 Join alphanumeric [0] (n=chatzill@c-71-199-117-222.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) 18.16.41 # sorry about that :/ 18.17.05 # :_) 18.17.10 Join DerDome [0] (n=DerDome@dslb-082-083-239-104.pools.arcor-ip.net) 18.17.39 Quit pixelma (Client Quit) 18.17.47 # Is there a place where I can watch the USB driver status besides reading through every single subversion change? 18.19.05 Join pixelma [0] (i=d5494c7e@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-9511aa3e420d64c1) 18.19.08 Part pondlife 18.19.39 # alphanumeric: svn log -r 17000:HEAD | grep -i usb 18.20.37 # bah, rockbox.org's webclient is less fun than ever by far (with a large gap)... count lag in minutes and unstable :\ 18.20.54 Join Bensawsome [0] (n=chatzill@63.239.117.66) 18.21.06 Part Bensawsome 18.21.17 # n1s: I don't understand that at all. Is that linux or can I use tortoiseSVN to do that? 18.22.46 # alphanumeric: you can enter that in a linux shell... (maybe you need rockbox svn checked out) 18.23.22 # pixelma: got my pm? 18.23.37 # n1s: oh, I'm on XP, so I don't think that will work without some sort of VM. 18.23.53 # you can also open the svn changelog page and use your browsers search function to search for the string usb 18.23.55 # if you need the actual status without a dev environment i don't think there's any other way than looking through the revisions on the webpage 18.24.12 # or use the command line svn client for windows in conjunction with grep from the gnuwin32 project. 18.24.15 # bluebrother: I do that all the time, I was just wondering if there was an easier way. 18.24.42 # but whenever it is enabled for official builds I am sure it will be mentioned at least in the MajorChanges page in the wiki 18.24.47 # oh, and using cygwin is also a possiblilty 18.24.51 # and probably on the frontpage 18.25.31 # n1s: okay thanks, n1s. I just love to watch the status, wish it had RSS or something on the SVN. 18.25.51 Quit cendres (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 18.25.56 # alphanumeric: I think there is an rss feed somewhere 18.25.58 # alphanumeric: there is an rss feed of the rockbox-cvs mailing list 18.26.42 # http://cia.vc/stats/project/rockbox/.rss 18.26.56 # awesome, thanks guys! 18.26.57 # * n1s googled "rockbox svn rss" 18.27.12 # * bluebrother points to http://dir.gmane.org/gmane.comp.systems.archos.rockbox.cvs 18.27.29 # sorry, I usually recognize it by the icon (since I didn't see it, I assumed it wasn't there). 18.27.41 Join ashes [0] (n=ashes@modemcable123.78-80-70.mc.videotron.ca) 18.28.58 # Again thank you guys so much. 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It's not enabled by -Wall or -Wextra apparently 19.19.28 # gcc explicitely states it supports void * artithmetic 19.20.03 Quit tvelocity (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 19.20.21 Join EspeonEefi [0] (i=espeonee@STRATTON-SEVEN-TWENTY-TWO.MIT.EDU) 19.20.21 # And downsizing to an unsigned value is well-defined, so warnings there can be annoying 19.21.51 Quit ch4os_ ("leaving") 19.21.56 # jhMikeS: I will try to do it tonight, you want 5v coming from the DC jack to the mc13783 ? 19.22.08 Quit mcuelenaere () 19.22.43 # no, it shows a 5V line coming from the mc13783 to a current limiter (VBUS). I suspect it's just an OTG host thing though. 19.22.58 # ok 19.24.26 Quit MethoS-- (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 19.24.30 Join MethoS-- [0] (n=clemens@91.97.240.229) 19.25.50 Join gevaerts_ [0] (n=fg@195-144-092-183.dyn.adsl.xs4all.be) 19.26.20 # jhMikeS: they could have used the usb from the mc13783 to make thing easier 19.28.25 # it doesn't support high speed though 19.28.38 Join Lear [0] (i=chatzill@rockbox/developer/lear) 19.28.42 Join Rince_ [0] (i=9pp03bMw@nat-wh-1.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de) 19.29.21 # toffe82: Also, knowing the power supply line of the ISP might tell something but I'm guessing it's powered. 19.30.04 # * jhMikeS needs to verify all the pins and pll's (tedious) :( 19.30.43 # the one to the current limiter just before the isp ? 19.31.25 # gevaerts: thanks, weird that not everything is added by -Wall... 19.31.29 # well, two: 1) The power supply to the ISP 2) The 5V to the current limiter (probably host-only) 19.31.54 # * toffe82 will put is 10x magnifier on to do that 19.31.58 # gevaerts_: what happened to the tests for SoC students? Isn't the period over? 19.32.11 Quit Rincewind (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 19.32.11 Join whoever_ [0] (n=whoever@77-57-204-28.dclient.hispeed.ch) 19.32.21 Join Rincewind [0] (n=Flubb@i528C34B8.versanet.de) 19.32.39 # It would suck to keep trying this only to find out the ISP supply must be switched on or something 19.32.49 Join barrywardell [0] (n=barrywar@rockbox/developer/barrywardell) 19.33.12 # :) 19.33.24 # hi together. on my iAudio I have a problem with my filesystem. So I want to format it. so can I just copy the files on iAudio, and format the FAT-System, and copy the files back to run rockbox on the system again? 19.33.33 Join ch4os_ [0] (n=ch4os@unaffiliated/ch4os/x-059673) 19.33.41 # Has there been any improvements to rockbox for iPod (Photo) in terms of battery life the last half year? 19.33.58 # UncleRemus: read the MajorChanges wiki page ... 19.34.02 # whoever_: yes 19.34.14 # whoever_: Just not in that order. :) 19.34.22 # LambdaCalculus37, what do you mean? 19.34.36 # I tried it and loved it, but the battery life was unfortunately too short. 19.34.37 # Wait... nevermind. Read it wrong. Sorry. 19.34.43 # n1s, are you shure? 19.34.50 # bluebrother: OK. 19.34.55 # so there can nothing happen? 19.35.04 # UncleRemus: did you read that page? There is an entry of the 10th of february this year ... 19.35.10 # whoever_: yes 19.35.10 Quit Rincewind (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 19.35.17 Join Rincewind [0] (n=Flubb@i528C34B8.versanet.de) 19.35.18 # thanks alot... - you are great:)! 19.35.28 # whoever_: Yes, back up, format as FAT32, then put everything back. 19.35.43 # ok 19.35.45 # Iaudios are actually more brick proof than ipods :) 19.35.47 # format as FAT32 19.35.56 # yep 19.35.59 # LambdaCalculus37, do I need a backup from a boot-sector or something like that? 19.36.05 # nope 19.36.08 # whoever_: No. 19.36.13 # Just back up your files. 19.36.19 # ok - tanks alot! 19.36.38 # and do you have a special trick for iAudios? with some setitngs or something like that? 19.36.54 # * LambdaCalculus37 doesn't own an iAUDIO 19.36.56 # is it better for the battery, if I have a small buffer-time? 19.37.17 Join cg [0] (n=cromos@dsl-olubrasgw1-ff8fc100-80.dhcp.inet.fi) 19.37.41 # whoever_: are you talking about the "anti-skip buffer" ? 19.38.11 # hmm... I'm talking about the time how many time of a song he take in the flash (or RAM:)?) 19.38.18 # (that was to n1s ) 19.38.56 # I'm sorry but I don't understand, could you rephrase that? 19.38.59 # bluebrother: Yes, I just saw it. Do you know anything more specific, is it worth the upgrade? Is it a major improvement? (thanks for the tip also) 19.39.02 # sorry, I'm German :) _ so I have a b ad english:D 19.39.04 Join linuxstb_ [0] (n=linuxstb@rockbox/developer/linuxstb) 19.39.25 # UncleRemus: yes, it's major. IIRC some other small improvements have happened over time too. 19.39.58 # It says "resulting in a large savings in power..." 19.40.00 # besides, the linked svn log message tells quite a bit 19.40.16 # Wohooo! Back to rockbox again! 19.40.32 # "we now appreach the OF runtime on several PP devices" 19.40.43 # try it yourself :) 19.40.48 # n1s, under settings > general settings > play back 19.40.49 Quit Rince_ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 19.40.56 Join Rince_ [0] (i=x3wEmiWX@nat-wh-1.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de) 19.41.03 # and yes - there I mean the anti-skip buffer :) - sorry, under gmerman it is different 19.41.03 # :) 19.41.11 # what does this buffer do:)? 19.41.16 Quit Mathiasdm ("Yuuw!") 19.41.28 Quit gevaerts (Nick collision from services.) 19.41.30 Nick gevaerts_ is now known as gevaerts (n=fg@195-144-092-183.dyn.adsl.xs4all.be) 19.41.43 # bluebrother: What is the linked svn message? 19.41.56 # Is it for main.c? 19.41.58 # whoever_: if you increase that rockbox will rebuffer _earlier_, so if it has trouble reading the HD it has more time, but this _decreases_ battery life 19.42.05 # s/life/time/ 19.42.16 # whoever_: it controls how much is always kept in buffer, so the higher it is, the earlyer the disk spins up again.. 19.42.24 Quit MethoS- (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 19.42.28 # UncleRemus: click on the entry on the MajorChanges page ... 19.42.35 Join MethoS- [0] (n=clemens@host-091-096-215-029.ewe-ip-backbone.de) 19.42.39 # bluebrother: the period is over, yes 19.42.41 Quit Rincewind (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 19.42.43 # ok - and which settings else safe the battery-life? 19.42.54 Join Rincewind [0] (n=Flubb@i528C34B8.versanet.de) 19.43.00 # (to all, special domonoky , n1s ) 19.43.44 # OK, yes that was what I was reading. Thanks for this, I'll install rockbox again 19.43.49 # UncleRemus: and the log message applies to all files that were committed in that revision 19.44.10 # * bluebrother goes pointing to http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/RockboxUtility ;-) 19.44.26 # the defaults are pretty efficient, all dsp things use a bit of battery, like eq crossfeed etc, naturally keeping the backlight on as little as possible and with low brightness helps 19.45.02 # gevaerts: any students pending? Are the results public? 19.45.10 # n1s, the backlight is on a optimum on my iAudio - but thanks alot:D 19.45.14 # bluebrother: we have one interview to go 19.45.20 # and i load the directory to the buffer - I think that helps' 19.45.33 # bluebrother: And taking a "Current Rockbox Build" will incorporate this, right? 19.46.03 # Yes 19.46.26 # whoever_: "directory cache" (as it is called in English) helps battery time _if_ you browse your files a lot 19.46.54 # I do that:) 19.46.57 # so thanks alot:) 19.46.57 Quit Rince_ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 19.47.13 Join Rince_ [0] (i=PVU7PvGH@nat-wh-1.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de) 19.47.25 # I love Rockbox - and i programmed my own WPS - btu I don't understand everything, so I'm very happy about this channel 19.48.08 Join FOAD_ [0] (n=dok@dinah.blub.net) 19.49.25 # Hmmm..."A wakeup operation is required before accessing the registers when the 19.49.25 # ULPI interface is operating in low power mode, serial mode, or car-kit mode." 19.49.34 Quit Rincewind (Nick collision from services.) 19.50.36 Quit linuxstb (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 19.51.14 Join Horscht [0] (n=Horscht@xbmc/user/horscht) 19.52.30 Quit Rince_ ("bye") 19.52.35 Join Rince_ [0] (i=A7GkvAT7@nat-wh-1.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de) 19.52.43 Join m0f0x [0] (n=m0f0x@189-47-51-52.dsl.telesp.net.br) 19.52.47 Nick Rince_ is now known as Rincewind (i=A7GkvAT7@nat-wh-1.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de) 19.57.55 Quit MethoS-- (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 19.58.10 Join MethoS-- [0] (n=clemens@host-091-096-211-126.ewe-ip-backbone.de) 19.58.38 Join homielowe [0] (n=eric_j_l@d205-250-150-38.bchsia.telus.net) 19.59.02 Join Rince_ [0] (n=Flubb@i528C34B8.versanet.de) 19.59.36 Quit thegeek (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 19.59.38 # jhMikeS: Thanks for fixing bootloader compiling on the gigabeaSt 20.00.25 # homielowe: np. does it still work? 20.01.09 Quit ch4os_ ("leaving") 20.01.10 # jhMikeS: Just compiled on ubuntu 7.10 and compiled clean without errors. 20.02.25 # now I'm wondering if it actually boots it :) 20.03.26 # jhMikeS: Not enough time to test here, maybe in seven hours :P 20.03.38 # * BigBambi will try 20.04.34 Quit homielowe () 20.04.51 Quit FOAD (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 20.04.52 Nick FOAD_ is now known as FOAD (n=dok@dinah.blub.net) 20.06.58 Quit perrikwp ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") 20.08.47 # jhMikeS: Yes, it still boots Rockbox 20.11.40 Quit raky (Remote closed the connection) 20.11.52 Join ch4os_ [0] (n=ch4os@unaffiliated/ch4os/x-059673) 20.12.20 Join PaulJam_ [0] (i=PaulJam_@vpn-3149.gwdg.de) 20.13.06 Join raky [0] (n=raky@92.116.156.176) 20.13.14 Quit Rince_ ("bye") 20.13.30 Quit XavierGr () 20.13.49 # BigBambi: nice. thanks for checking. 20.13.54 Quit Rincewind (Nick collision from services.) 20.13.57 # no problems 20.14.06 Join krz2 [0] (n=irc_by@turbo.sml.by) 20.14.17 Join Rincewind [0] (n=Flubb@i528C34B8.versanet.de) 20.14.42 Join ]3six5[ [0] (i=frye@adsl-065-007-255-200.sip.jan.bellsouth.net) 20.14.46 # <]3six5[> help! 20.15.04 # <]3six5[> sansa e260 ain't detecting sd cards 20.15.16 # What version of rockbox? 20.15.19 Quit MethoS- (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 20.15.24 # you are going to have to be a bit more descriptive of that.. 20.15.33 Join MethoS- [0] (n=clemens@dyndsl-085-016-160-237.ewe-ip-backbone.de) 20.15.38 # <]3six5[> r16873-080329 20.16.08 # * ]3six5[ shrugs 20.16.12 # <]3six5[> i just gots it 20.16.16 # Please update to the current build, try again, if it still doesn't work, give us more details 20.16.33 # <]3six5[> :o 20.16.51 # checking the debug screen might tell if it's not detecting or just not mounting 20.17.04 # Does the card work in the OF ? 20.17.20 # <]3six5[> cards work in my phone and in the card reader 20.17.29 # <]3six5[> dunno about the original firmware 20.17.40 # Any chance you could check? 20.17.49 # <]3six5[> i got this sansa pre-loaded w/ rockbox 20.18.00 # The manual will tell you that it can dual boot 20.18.18 # What size is the card ? 20.18.46 # <]3six5[> i've got a 2gb sd micros and a couple 4gb sdhc's 20.18.52 # <]3six5[> none of'm register 20.18.56 # a 4GB sdhc micro-sd card works fine here with v17121 20.19.06 # <]3six5[> ah 20.19.11 # ]3six5[: Could you answer jhMikeS's question above? 20.19.13 # <]3six5[> i gotta update this puppy 20.19.23 # * BigBambi gives up 20.19.29 # I would suggest to try the 2gb card in the original firmware first 20.19.31 # <]3six5[> i'm flippin through the debug now 20.19.38 # <]3six5[> where should i look exactly? 20.19.58 # @ all : can I publish a WPS when the background is under the Creative Common license? 20.20.05 Join perrikwp [0] (i=98213deb@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-84b28fef24111c5b) 20.20.19 # whoever_: So long as you fulfil all requirements of the licence, yes 20.20.45 # BigBambi, so i just have to name the creator of the background:)? 20.20.59 # <]3six5[> thank you much BigBambi for bringing the current build to my attention 20.20.59 # whoever_: If that is what the background licence says 20.21.08 # Rincewind: Here now 20.21.26 # ok - then I can - so I would do it - but I'm not sure if it is useful:D 20.21.36 # ]3six5[: No probs - we do ask you always update before requesting support in case a problem has already been fixed 20.21.48 # whoever_: If what is useful? 20.21.54 # my WPS:) 20.21.57 # amiconn: I'm eating at the moment. I send you a private message later 20.22.17 # whoever_: You never know :) 20.22.36 Quit raky ("Ex-Chat") 20.24.04 # BigBambi, you can look www.ruben-online.ch/1.bmp an www.ruben-online.ch/2.bmp 20.24.42 # whoever_: Looks good to me - I'm sure some people would appreciate it if you submitted it 20.25.12 # so I would try to can do it on the WPS-Page 20.26.11 # Sure, check the instructions on WpsGallery, then select the correct page for the theme 20.29.55 Join icemang [0] (n=ice@71-34-146-253.clsp.qwest.net) 20.30.12 # <]3six5[> hmm, updated, msd: not present 20.30.33 Join returntoreality [0] (n=linus@p5497D017.dip.t-dialin.net) 20.30.39 # ]3six5[: And does the Sansa firmware read the 2GB card? 20.31.11 Join uyriry686 [0] (n=ircap8@160.Red-88-18-16.staticIP.rima-tde.net) 20.31.14 # www.HOTTIES4FREE.tk XXX BRUNETTES 20.31.15 Part uyriry686 20.31.55 # * LambdaCalculus37 readies a 16-ton weight for the next spammer 20.32.05 # haha, i'm totally going to that website 20.32.08 # * icemang rolls eyes 20.32.13 Quit MethoS-- (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 20.32.49 Join MethoS-- [0] (n=clemens@host-091-096-211-083.ewe-ip-backbone.de) 20.33.12 # <]3six5[> umm.. 20.34.22 Quit alphanumeric ("ChatZilla 0.9.81 [Firefox 2.0.0.13/2008031114]") 20.34.41 # <]3six5[> give me a minute.. going to try to rebuild the file structure on that card. was mainly used for my phone 20.36.24 # <]3six5[> doh 20.36.38 # <]3six5[> #-o 20.36.38 # ? 20.36.48 # <]3six5[> the card wasn't going in all the way 20.36.51 # doh 20.36.54 # <]3six5[> lmao 20.37.01 # * icemang faceplams ]3six5[ 20.37.13 # <]3six5[> it would half click.. and it felt like it was securely in there 20.37.29 # let's not get excited 20.37.31 # * ]3six5[ blushes 20.37.34 # does it recognize the card now? 20.37.34 # <]3six5[> its reading it 20.37.36 # <]3six5[> yea 20.37.38 # awesome 20.37.41 # <]3six5[> <3 <# 20.37.46 # <]3six5[> thanks for all the help guys 20.37.58 # <]3six5[> i've never felt like such a newb 20.38.13 # can you all please stay within normal ascii, and pure english ? :-) 20.38.29 # <]3six5[> <3 20.38.33 # <]3six5[> ^heart 20.38.37 # <]3six5[> that is normal ascii 20.38.43 # could also be an ice cream cone 20.38.43 # ]3six5[: Stop it now 20.38.52 # <]3six5[> eek 20.38.53 # <]3six5[> ok 20.38.57 # hahaha 20.39.00 Join ZincAlloy [0] (n=d9eee3ea@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-5f9cbc482ca714de) 20.39.00 # This is an on-topic channel, lets keep it that way 20.39.00 # thanks #rockbox 20.39.02 Quit icemang ("Leaving") 20.39.03 # that is normal ascii.. 20.39.27 # ]3six5[: the issue is that some people read this channel using screen readers or translation software, and all these smiley-like things are hard on them 20.39.47 # <]3six5[> ah 20.39.48 # <]3six5[> ok 20.40.02 # as is :-) 20.40.12 # <]3six5[> i'll leave all my alt+4321 hexcode outta this chat then 20.40.30 Quit PaulJam (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 20.40.56 # <]3six5[> i look forward to helping the chat/project out how ever i can in the future 20.41.00 # <]3six5[> thanks again y'all 20.41.12 # no problems 20.41.51 # hmm, second crash today :( time to use the official build for a while. 20.43.02 # it would be nice if I could search the bug tracker by player type 20.45.18 # are there many bugs related to a specific player? 20.45.35 Quit barrywardell () 20.47.04 Join bluebroth3r [0] (n=dom@f053154152.adsl.alicedsl.de) 20.48.28 # PaulJam_: I don't know, at least some are specific, it's a bit hard to tell without opening a bunch of them 20.49.34 Quit bluebrother (Nick collision from services.) 20.49.37 Nick bluebroth3r is now known as bluebrother (n=dom@f053154152.adsl.alicedsl.de) 20.50.14 Quit MethoS- (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 20.50.28 Join MethoS- [0] (n=clemens@host-091-096-215-097.ewe-ip-backbone.de) 20.52.59 Join elinenbe [0] (n=elinenbe@209.196.192.8) 20.53.54 # bertrik: I don't think it would be too helpful, the very vast majority of tasks I've seen with the player type filled in have had it filled in by someone who doesn't know the bug is an issue on the software layer. 20.54.26 # It'd be much more useful if the tasks could have multiple players set and every commenter could add their player to the list if they were experiencing it, I suppose. 20.55.56 Quit MethoS-- (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 20.56.01 Join thegeek [0] (i=thegeek@s220b.studby.ntnu.no) 20.56.01 Join MethoS-- [0] (n=clemens@dyndsl-085-016-160-128.ewe-ip-backbone.de) 20.56.32 # ok, but we have advanced search by even more advanced properties now, like "reported version", "due in version" and "percent complete" 20.57.28 # "due in version" at least was used quite a bit when we were trying to hit a release. 20.57.45 # "Percent Complete" would've been relevant then too. 20.58.06 # And "reported version" would've become relevant immediately after said release if it hadn't failed. 20.59.08 Join OlivierBorowski_ [0] (n=OlivierB@ANancy-157-1-100-188.w86-218.abo.wanadoo.fr) 20.59.13 # a release is also a proposed topic for DevCon 21.00.18 # bluebrother: for the 3rd year in a row ;-) 21.00.40 # elinenbe: maybe it'll work for the third attempt? 21.00.44 # bertrik: I just think that, with the way the reported player works now, someone searching by it is going to often be mislead by the results they get (especially users) 21.01.17 # IMO a release would be good. I just don't see it approaching ... 21.01.34 # * bluebrother discovers some manuals being broken 21.02.44 # Llorean: ok sounds reasonable 21.03.52 Join lee-qid [0] (n=liqid@p5496753E.dip.t-dialin.net) 21.04.09 # * Nico_P agrees that a relase would be good 21.05.00 # * Llorean thinks his opinion on the matter is well known. :) 21.06.25 # Nico_P: I think you know the playback code the best, do you think it's (close to) good enough for a release? 21.06.48 # n1s: I think we're getting quite close 21.07.00 # Nico_P: I think the buffereing code needs to support (jpg) coverart in the ID3 tags ;-) 21.07.05 # * bluebrother starts to get confused by this stupid way the history works on cmd.exe :( 21.07.06 # I have a few bugfixes ready and a plan to rewrite audio_check_nex_track 21.07.12 # With the recent significant changes though, we're at a point where the status is somewhat unknown in terms of new problems that might show up over the next few days 21.08.01 # elinenbe: I don't think embedded jpeg coverart is a v3 requisite :P 21.08.16 Quit miepchen^schlaf () 21.08.20 Nick linuxstb_ is now known as linuxstb (n=linuxstb@rockbox/developer/linuxstb) 21.08.38 # I do think however that properly handling files where embedded jpeg coverart is present (by ignoring it) might be a requisite 21.08.44 # elinenbe: You're welcome to work on it, of course. :) 21.08.57 Quit krz2 (" ?") 21.09.24 # * gevaerts forgot about the "complaining==volumteering" part, and retracts his last statement 21.09.25 # gevaerts: I think in many cases we do ignore it, it's just cases where it's excessively large that are problematic so far? 21.09.59 # I think that with a stable playback engine for swcodec we can simply feature freeze for about 2 weeks, fix what we can and then release 21.10.40 # Llorean: the ones I have problems with are about 64k 21.11.06 # maybe we should try to fix some other annoyances as well ... but a stable playback engine it the most important. 21.11.19 # gevaerts: That sounds somewhat large to me. 21.11.39 # during that freeze we should also try to get devs updating / proof-reading the manual ;-) 21.11.44 # Maybe. I don't have any other files with embedded jpegs, so I can't really compare 21.12.14 # Several swcodec targets have more or less severe non-playback related problems 21.12.27 # bluebrother: my point is that we should _enter_ the freeze with a stable playback engine so that we have the base functionality already working well 21.12.36 Join pixelma [50] (i=pixelma@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 21.13.31 # speaking of buffering code: yesterdays improvements are pretty cool, but I think there is some weired stuff going on: when I change to an unbuffered album after turning the backlight on it still takes rather long to buffer. when I try to do the same thing immediately afterwards (keeping the backlight on by browsing files while waiting for the hdd indicator to disappear) the new track loads really fast. is this 21.13.33 Quit MethoS- (No route to host) 21.13.39 Join MethoS- [0] (n=clemens@91.97.240.40) 21.14.14 # ZincAlloy: your message was cut off 21.15.06 # n1s: indeed, that would be a good start. 21.15.23 # peaking of buffering code: yesterdays improvements are pretty cool, but I think there is some weired stuff going on: when I change to an unbuffered album after turning the backlight on it still takes rather long to buffer. when I try to do the same thing immediately afterwards (keeping the backlight on by browsing files while waiting for the hdd indicator to disappear) the new track loads really fast. is this 21.15.33 # did it come through this time? 21.15.42 # ZincAlloy: it's too long 21.15.43 # ZincAlloy: IRC has a line length limit... 21.15.46 # ZincAlloy: Not all of it - check the logs 21.15.57 # ZincAlloy: it was cut at "is this" 21.16.01 Quit OlivierBorowski (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 21.16.30 # ...a bug? 21.16.43 # it's a feature 21.16.52 # oh, cool 21.17.24 # sounds like spin-up time to me 21.17.29 # indeed 21.17.47 # I see.. 21.18.10 # let me try this again... 21.18.10 # I assume you are using a HD based target, no? 21.18.23 # yes, iriver h300 21.18.50 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 21.19.20 # the disk takes some time to spin up until the target can "use" it 21.19.22 # wow, several manuals seem to be broken since around 200 revisions :( 21.23.34 Quit returntoreality (Remote closed the connection) 21.23.39 # yeah, makes sense now. I didn't consider that the disk might still be spinning with no disc activity being indicated. thanks for the explanation! 21.23.46 # bluebrother: ? 21.24.04 # * Nico_P farked up a commit message 21.24.06 Join javaman [0] (n=Yifu@c-68-84-62-252.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) 21.24.23 # ZincAlloy: with a h300 you should be able to hear/feel the disk spinnign quite easily 21.24.24 Quit whoever_ ("Bin dann mal weg - allen noch 'nen schönen Tag") 21.25.29 # Nico_P: Ignore those pesky lines! 21.25.52 # n1s: the pegbox plugin broke several manual builds ... like recorder, h10 and others 21.25.56 # I think I inadvertantly changed something there 21.26.25 # does rockbox use sdl? 21.26.39 # if i was making a plugin could i make rockbox use sdl? 21.26.48 # n1s: yes, definitely, though my h300 is still rather quiet compared to others.. 21.27.10 # javaman: only the simulators use sdl 21.27.13 # javaman: No. But there is a Rockbox simulator that uses SDL (building Rockbox as a PC application) 21.27.18 # javaman: no. The sim is based on SDL but you can't use sdl functionality from plugins 21.27.27 # oh 21.27.59 # bluebrother: are you fixin manuals or should I? 21.28.28 # We really need a better way to know the manuals are broken... 21.28.38 # n1s: already committed ;-) 21.28.49 # Nico_P: what happened to your latest commit message? 21.29.01 # gr8 21.29.37 # but I agree that we need a better notification system for broken manuals. 21.29.42 # bluebrother: I think I inadvertantly modified the line I was supposed to ignore 21.29.46 Quit MethoS-- (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 21.29.56 Join MethoS-- [0] (n=clemens@host-091-096-209-031.ewe-ip-backbone.de) 21.30.30 # aah ... just realized what the french text means ;-) 21.31.46 # "I surrender"? 21.32.04 # that was probably politicaly uncorrect... 21.32.29 Join returntoreality [0] (n=o0j9u8@p5497D017.dip.t-dialin.net) 21.35.08 Quit perrikwp ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") 21.36.46 Quit returntoreality (Client Quit) 21.40.15 Quit ZincAlloy ("CGI:IRC") 21.41.21 # chinese bars ftw, im full 21.41.45 Join stripwax [0] (n=Miranda@87-194-34-169.bethere.co.uk) 21.42.34 Join miepchen^schlaf [0] (n=miepchen@p54BF545C.dip.t-dialin.net) 21.43.37 Join szlackoo [0] (n=szlacko@91.82.36.125.pool.invitel.hu) 21.44.38 Quit szlackoo (Client Quit) 21.45.59 Join gregzx [0] (n=chatzill@dtg135.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) 21.46.26 Quit MethoS- (Connection timed out) 21.46.34 Join MethoS- [0] (n=clemens@host-091-096-210-049.ewe-ip-backbone.de) 21.47.05 Quit lee-qid ("aufwiederbyebientotsayonara") 21.49.20 Join perrikwp [0] (i=9821698e@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-9f50c766d3df9a9c) 21.51.26 Quit simonrvn ("Changing server") 21.51.55 Quit Lear ("ChatZilla 0.9.81 [Firefox 3.0pre/2008041506]") 21.52.19 Join simonrvn [0] (i=simon@unaffiliated/simonrvn) 21.53.01 Quit BlakeJohnson86 (leguin.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 21.53.01 NSplit leguin.freenode.net irc.freenode.net 21.53.01 Quit Zarggg (leguin.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 21.53.01 Quit ze (leguin.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 21.53.01 Quit RoC_MasterMind (leguin.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 21.53.01 Quit BrianHV (leguin.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 21.53.01 Quit HEx (leguin.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 21.53.01 Quit daven (leguin.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 21.53.13 Join Zarggg_ [0] (n=z@216-15-73-111.c3-0.eas-ubr6.atw-eas.pa.cable.rcn.com) 21.54.27 NHeal leguin.freenode.net irc.freenode.net 21.54.27 NJoin daven [0] (n=daven@145.175.adsl.brightview.com) 21.54.41 Join PaulJam__ [0] (i=PaulJam_@vpn-3025.gwdg.de) 21.54.51 Join BrianHV [0] (n=bhv1@copland.brianhv.org) 21.54.52 *** Server message 505: 'logbot :Private messages from unregistered users are currently blocked due to spam problems, but you can always message a staffer. 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It worked fine the way it does right now for quite a while already :) 23.00.16 Join typhoon07 [0] (n=adam@client-82-2-50-167.brnt.adsl.virgin.net) 23.00.28 Quit Thundercloud (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 23.00.59 Join fml [0] (n=4fd3db8e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-537d34430c3a281f) 23.01.08 Join FOAD_ [0] (n=dok@dinah.blub.net) 23.01.39 # markun: ping 23.01.41 Part typhoon07 23.02.56 # fml: pong (but was about to go to bed) 23.03.51 Join Thundercloud [0] (n=thunderc@84-51-130-71.judith186.adsl.metronet.co.uk) 23.04.10 Quit low_light ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") 23.04.20 Join PaulJam_ [0] (i=PaulJam_@vpn-3068.gwdg.de) 23.04.31 # fml: I'll be back in a few minutes. If you have a question you can just ask it and I will reply when I get back. 23.04.31 # markun: ok. I wanted to ask something about nimbus-19 23.04.40 # what about it? 23.05.29 # markun: I've been thinking about making capitals one pixel wider. So that the gap between the legs (e.g. in H) has the same width as the legs 23.06.13 # fml: you can also talk to pixelma about it. I think she has done more recent work on the nimbus fonts. 23.06.22 # markun: wouldn't it look nicer then? And if the dap has a wide enough screen (ipods, but not sansa e200) it might be an improvement 23.06.47 # So we could have two versions of it: normal and wide 23.06.56 Quit stripwax ("Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org") 23.07.11 Nick shenson is now known as shenson_not_here (n=shenson@nat/redhat/x-8d2d9b67ba79f9d0) 23.07.19 # fml: could you maybe make this second version and make screenshots of with the same text to show us? 23.07.32 Quit mcuelenaere (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 23.07.53 # it's usually how font changes get decided 23.08.12 # markun: that's the problem. I've changed some letters to make a sample but can't call the sample window in FontForge. I don't know why. 23.08.14 Quit PaulJam_ (Client Quit) 23.08.31 # fml: but you could view a text in the rockbox sim 23.08.59 Quit elinenbe (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 23.09.08 # markun: yes, but that's much more hassle, and I'm lazy :-) 23.09.12 # otherwise I could do that, but not now 23.10.12 # The changes were really simple. Just make letters with vertical legs a bit wider. Was just an idea. 23.10.24 # Sure not now. Good night. 23.10.38 # can you put the font in the tracker when you are finished? 23.10.50 # then I can make the screenshots if you want 23.10.58 # and tell us which glyphs you changed 23.11.23 # good night 23.11.31 # markun: I just changed a couple of letters, the most obvious ones to get a first impression. But couln't get it :-) 23.12.12 Quit Hillshum ("ChatZilla 0.9.81 [Firefox 2.0.0.13/2008031114]") 23.15.39 Quit bughunter2 ("Leaving.") 23.16.21 # Bagder: has someone talked to you about adding the gigabeast to the build table? 23.16.29 # no 23.16.48 # then I am :) what do you think? 23.17.06 Quit FOAD (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 23.17.06 Nick FOAD_ is now known as FOAD (n=dok@dinah.blub.net) 23.18.53 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 23.19.04 Quit PaulJam (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 23.19.22 # will it be named Gigabeast in the table? *g* 23.19.30 Quit Thundercloud_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 23.19.55 # markun: (for the log): FS task added: FS#8899 (nice number, he-he) 23.21.16 Quit n1s () 23.21.21 Quit fml ("CGI:IRC") 23.21.36 # if it builds I see nothing against adding it 23.21.42 # all three builds? 23.22.04 # * DerPapst waits for a new and shiny svg :-) 23.22.42 # Bagder: at least the BL and the main bin build. the sim probably does too 23.23.13 Join elinenbe [0] (n=elinenbe@cpe-68-174-107-47.nyc.res.rr.com) 23.23.26 # do you want me to check? 23.23.48 # another 12 builds and the table doesn't fit on my screen anymore :-P 23.24.12 # * Nico_P still has room of he maximizes his browser window 23.24.21 # Nico_P: unless you feel like fixing reds ;-) 23.25.01 Part domonoky 23.25.15 # any point in collecting zips at this point? 23.25.23 # no 23.26.16 # ATM we send tars to the device 23.27.02 # nk.bin is the bootloader output filename, right? 23.27.15 Join tessarakt [0] (n=jens@e180077131.adsl.alicedsl.de) 23.27.30 # yes 23.28.08 Join linuxstb_ [0] (n=linuxstb@rockbox/developer/linuxstb) 23.28.28 # added! 23.28.50 # now commit something fun and let us see! 23.29.05 # :) 23.29.16 # * gevaerts thinks that DerPapst has a fun patch to commit 23.30.26 # 1D Tetris! http://pastebin.ca/986526 23.30.30 # :-P 23.31.12 # "Ladies and Gentlemen, we do not have sound, but we have a fun new game !" 23.31.55 # most users install rockbox because of the games anyways. so games >> sound. ;-) 23.32.05 # yes 23.32.32 # :/ 23.32.50 # sound is sooo 90s anyway, internet is the way to go these days! 23.32.55 # that's why BattleShip > new codec or other important core changes 23.32.57 # :-D 23.33.17 # DerPapst: that's _un_important core changes ;) 23.33.32 # uhh.. indeed 23.33.34 # :-P 23.34.18 Quit ompaul ("Leaving") 23.35.02 Join ompaul [0] (n=ompaul@gnewsense/friend/ompaul) 23.35.10 Quit HellDragon (Excess Flood) 23.36.09 Join HellDragon [0] (i=jd@unaffiliated/helldragon) 23.36.16 Quit davina (Remote closed the connection) 23.38.45 # DerPapst: it crashes on H320 23.39.15 # o.O 23.40.32 # where there any compiler warnings? 23.41.14 Quit linuxstb (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 23.41.22 # DerPapst: no 23.43.10 Join Thundercloud_ [0] (n=thunderc@84-51-130-71.judith186.adsl.metronet.co.uk) 23.43.11 # * Bagder forces a rebuild 23.43.23 # ah no need 23.43.54 # 79 builds now 23.44.32 # gevaerts: did it hang? or any other type of crash? 23.44.43 Quit Rincewind ("bye") 23.44.57 # I0B:Line-F at 00014878 23.45.51 # * gevaerts isn't used to coldfire crashes yet and has no idea what that means 23.46.02 # maybe the mapfile is of help... 23.46.09 Join TaylorKillian [0] (n=Administ@wl198118.wright.edu) 23.46.11 # runs fine on my iPod (5.5.G) 23.46.21 Quit EspeonEefi ("さよなら") 23.46.27 Quit DerDome (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 23.46.30 # hello all 23.46.34 # haven't tested on any other of my targets, however, they're all arms 23.46.37 # I doubt it. IIRC that's in ROM area, so a wrong pointer 23.46.47 # I know, that's why I tested h320 23.47.59 # did it instandly crash? 23.48.27 # pretty much 23.48.52 # did it draw anything before? i guess not. 23.49.12 Quit petur ("*plop*") 23.50.14 # If it did, it was fast enough not to show up 23.50.25 # mkay... 23.50.54 Quit gregzx ("ChatZilla 0.9.81 [Firefox 2.0.0.13/2008031114]") 23.52.00 # i only do 2 things with pointers. one is stolen, the other is not... ;-) 23.52.15 # What's the other ? 23.52.33 # a snprintf 23.54.19 # the snprintf looks ok to me 23.55.10 # adn the other is directly stolen from rockblox... 23.55.23 # the line right after the do { 23.57.33 # I'm building a h300 sim now, to see if it's something about this specific screen size 23.57.38 # * DerPapst has no idea and blames gevaerts h320 23.58.51 Quit bluebrother (Read error: 113 (No route to host))