--- Log for 19.04.108 Server: leguin.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 17 days and 18 hours ago 00.00.12 Join DerPapst [0] (n=Der@p5B23EA57.dip.t-dialin.net) 00.01.54 Join CyBergRind|w [0] (n=cbr@212.98.160.130) 00.03.21 Join tessarakt [0] (n=jens@e180074128.adsl.alicedsl.de) 00.05.26 Join Zarggg [0] (n=z@216-15-73-111.c3-0.eas-ubr6.atw-eas.pa.cable.rcn.com) 00.06.22 Join linuxstb_ [0] (n=linuxstb@rockbox/developer/linuxstb) 00.09.22 Quit sitwon ("Leaving") 00.09.30 Quit linuxstb (Nick collision from services.) 00.09.32 Nick linuxstb_ is now known as linuxstb (n=linuxstb@rockbox/developer/linuxstb) 00.12.01 Quit ompaul (Client Quit) 00.15.23 Quit DavidS1 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00.19.12 Quit [CBR]Unspoken|w (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00.19.28 Quit tvelocity ("Αποχώρησε") 00.23.08 Quit rockbox-domonoky (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 00.23.13 Quit amiconn (Nick collision from services.) 00.23.19 Join amiconn [50] (n=jens@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 00.26.48 # gevaerts: there? 00.26.53 # BigBambi: yes 00.27.50 # I just wan t to double check what I need to do to the beast to make linux see it (I've been skimming the logs - my parents are visiting, hence lots of beer but little Rockbox time) 00.29.08 # You have a S60, right ? Same as Nico_P ? 00.29.20 # Yep, 00.30.48 Join TaylorKillian [0] (n=Administ@wl198118.wright.edu) 00.31.30 # OK. download http://www.evonet.be/~gevaerts/gigabeat-S-mbr-fixed 00.31.44 # * petur discovers a channel without nanok :) 00.32.18 # then plug in the beast and check what device it is... 00.32.49 # OK, I see jhMikeS has commited USB work, so I just need to build that 00.33.21 # BigBambi: there is more. The actual problem is in the partition table, so you need to fix that anyway 00.33.27 # OK 00.34.08 # gevaerts: sdb 00.34.14 # So once you plug it in (ant it is recognized) : dd if=gigabeat-S-mbr-fixed of=/dev/sdb 00.34.15 # gevaerts: I realize the fix is a good idea, but since I'm on Windows, I don't have to worry about it for now, right? 00.34.34 # Mouser_X: windows seems not to care about this issue 00.34.49 # gevaerts: done 00.34.49 # Good. I'll ignore its existence for the time being then. 00.34.53 # reboot? 00.34.57 # BigBambi: now unplug and replug 00.35.22 # gevaerts: \ô/ 00.35.25 # Success! 00.35.39 # great :) 00.35.45 # * BigBambi bows down at gevaerts' feet :) 00.36.02 # This is fricking awesome 00.36.10 # BigBambi: it just changes two bits 00.36.17 # Is that it? 00.36.33 # So the S partition table has two bits set wrongly? 00.36.49 # Yes. The bootable flag must be 0x00 or 0x80, and the S has 0x01... 00.36.58 # ffs 00.37.02 # (and there are two partitions, so that's two bits) 00.37.12 # So windows is just more lax about it? 00.37.33 # Yes. They can afford to be, they only support one or two partition table types 00.37.39 # I still wonder why, never seen it before. maybe a bug in the gigabeat format routine? 00.38.08 # It's just another symptom of the beast being Windows only 00.38.43 # that flag only matters when booting, it is ok for an OS to ignore it on normal access 00.38.56 # That table also isn't meant to be used from a PC, so even if they know it, it's probably not worth fixing for them 00.39.35 # In other news, along with the parents my c240 arrived today :) 00.39.51 # Awesome. 00.39.53 # So which were you happiest about ? 00.40.06 # beast usb by far :) 00.40.07 # * Mouser_X would be happiest about USB support on the S... 00.40.21 # * gevaerts meant c240 or parents :) 00.41.22 # gevaerts: hehe, In that case, parents. I already have a load of targets, and I haven't seen the folks in ages 00.41.37 Join shrimants [0] (n=chatzill@baits-212-132.reshall.umich.edu) 00.41.59 # does rockbox support video playback/video podcasts yet? 00.42.05 # yes 00.42.09 # If it is MPEG1/2 00.42.30 # see www.rockbox.org/wiki/PluginMpegplayer 00.42.37 # whats the difference between mpeg 1/2 and the later releases? 00.42.43 # eh? 00.42.48 # They are different formats 00.42.54 # See the link I posted 00.43.02 # i think i asked a really stupid question 00.43.04 # lol nvm 00.43.09 # heh :) 00.44.47 # awesome. i was hoping i wouldnt have to stick to ipod's stock OS. its giving me problems with gapless playback 00.44.47 # It's my turn for a stupid question now 00.44.59 # go for it 00.45.00 Join TMM [0] (n=hp@c514753fe.cable.wanadoo.nl) 00.45.08 Quit TMM (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 00.45.29 Join TMM_ [0] (n=hp@c514753fe.cable.wanadoo.nl) 00.46.11 # gevaerts, jhMikeS: After jhMikeS's latest commits, I'm assuming I don't need to patch for beast USB. However, from the export/config-gigabeat-s.h it looks like I need to uncomment the defines for USB - do I uncomment everything under "/* enable these for the experimental usb stack */"? 00.46.27 # * gevaerts loos 00.46.34 # s/s$/ks/ 00.47.35 # BigBambi: they seem to be enabled already 00.48.00 # * BigBambi slaps forehead 00.48.09 Quit Mouser_X (Nick collision from services.) 00.48.10 # gevaerts: Er, yes, they do 00.48.20 Join Mouser_X [0] (n=mouser_x@layl001.digis.net) 00.48.22 Nick TMM_ is now known as TMM (n=hp@c514753fe.cable.wanadoo.nl) 00.48.24 # gevaerts: I said it was a stupid question :) 00.48.25 # cheers 00.49.04 # ugh it seems that today is the day that in my "study break" i get to fill in the holes for my music library 00.49.09 # album art and everything 00.50.21 # what is the required line width for rockbox code? 00.50.29 # well thanks for the help 00.50.31 # adios 00.50.31 Quit shrimants ("ChatZilla 0.9.81 [Firefox 2.0.0.14/2008040413]") 00.50.44 # saratoga: 80 00.50.58 # see DOCS/CONTRIBUTING 00.51.04 # wow thats really small 00.51.34 # live with it or get beaten up hy the rockbox hitmen 00.51.37 Join spiorf [0] (n=spiorf@host176-218-dynamic.30-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) 00.51.43 # *by 00.52.15 # Actually, it's not always required. You're allowed to make shorter lines ;) 00.52.29 # i like 100-120 character lines 00.52.38 # but then i've got a widescreen monitor so maybe thats part of it 00.52.57 # Maybe rotating it helps ? 00.53.16 # saratoga: plenty of space to put other stuff next to it 00.55.12 # hmm no one look at the wma codec 00.55.16 # you might not like what you see 00.56.48 Quit DerDome ("Leaving.") 00.56.50 # also another dumb question: in c is it required to put "LL" after a constant if you explictly declare it to be a long long? 00.58.11 # Well, you are not required to change formatting of imported code from other projects. Doing that would make it hard to incorporate improvements and fixes later 00.58.21 # Depends. If it doesn't fit into an int, you need the LL 00.59.26 Quit petur ("Zzzz") 00.59.51 # i've rewritten so much of the wma codec its basically mine now 01.00.03 # the hard part is bringing the ffmpeg code up to where the rockbox stuff is 01.00.41 Quit gevaerts ("sleeping time") 01.04.03 # Mouser_X: Do you mind if I do it tomorrow? I have to get some sleep now 01.04.09 # NP 01.04.19 # I've waited this long. What's anotehr day? 01.06.19 # FS#7488 is just amazing 01.06.30 # i've now patched 5 seperate bugs using that file 01.06.37 # and its still not quite decoding right 01.07.04 # Heh. 01.08.51 # additionally if anyone still has WMA problem samples at this point, i'd love to see them 01.08.55 # i'm down to just 1 01.09.10 # Not bad. 01.09.22 # (Pretty good actually.) 01.10.04 # yeah i'm pretty happy 01.10.16 # that one problem sample just has a very minor glitch sound 01.16.12 Join tapiocapudding [0] (n=chatzill@208.248.14.207) 01.16.22 # hey there 01.16.30 # i've got a problem with the pacbox plugin... 01.16.50 # it complain's i've got no roms in .rockbox/pacman, but i have something that should be roms 01.17.24 # i have pacman.6e, .6h, .6f, and .6j 01.17.51 # if these are the wrong files, can someone please direct me to somewhere where i can find the right ones? I've been looking for a while now. thanks. 01.18.30 # oh btw i would look on the page for it in the plugin index but i can't seem to get to that page... the browser confirms it exists but never loads it... 01.18.33 Join MethoS- [0] (n=clemens@host-091-096-209-178.ewe-ip-backbone.de) 01.20.26 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 01.22.04 # tapiocapudding: it is working for me http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/PluginPacbox 01.22.35 # umm, sorry, but i think i went over this - i can navigate to the page but my browser can't load it. I'll try again, if it makes you happy. 01.23.29 # I had to try 2 times before it loads 01.23.35 # ok 01.23.37 # it works now 01.23.42 # missing .5e and .5f 01.24.38 Quit tessarakt ("Client exiting") 01.27.45 # * amiconn is somewhat puzzled by the occasional crashing PP5002 builds. 01.28.31 # While cache line length is supposedly 16 bytes, I can only make it crash for one possible alignment in a 32 byte block 01.28.55 # That's why I thought my first fix worked back then 01.29.51 # I guess it's influenced not only by line length, but also by whether the next line is already cached or not 01.30.43 # jhMikeS: ping 01.34.08 Part toffe82 01.42.33 Join BlackChaos [0] (i=BlackCha@ool-182cdaac.dyn.optonline.net) 01.50.02 # umm..pong? 01.50.13 # bit late eh? 01.50.16 # anyways bye 01.50.29 Quit tapiocapudding ("going to go do something away from the computer...EGAD!") 01.54.45 Join stripwax [0] (n=Miranda@87-194-34-169.bethere.co.uk) 01.59.29 Quit MethoS- (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 02.03.59 Join stripwax_ [0] (n=Miranda@87-194-34-169.bethere.co.uk) 02.04.05 Quit stripwax (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 02.05.14 Quit spiorf (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 02.06.33 Quit sbhsu (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 02.06.44 Join sbhsu [0] (n=a6530466@Zion.dorm.au.edu.tw) 02.10.06 Join _jhMikeS_ [50] (n=jethead7@rockbox/developer/jhMikeS) 02.10.11 Quit jhMikeS (Nick collision from services.) 02.14.16 Join stripwax [0] (n=Miranda@87-194-34-169.bethere.co.uk) 02.21.47 Join linuxstb_ [0] (n=linuxstb@rockbox/developer/linuxstb) 02.22.08 Join sk [0] (n=sk@c-67-167-117-152.hsd1.il.comcast.net) 02.23.11 Quit waldo ("Konversation terminated!") 02.25.30 Join toffe82 [0] (n=chatzill@ppp-69-238-94-176.dsl.frs2ca.pacbell.net) 02.33.45 Quit stripwax_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 02.35.55 Quit linuxstb (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 02.40.25 Join Thundercloud [0] (n=thunderc@84-51-130-71.judith186.adsl.metronet.co.uk) 02.46.10 Join BHSPitLappy [0] (n=stephen@adsl-65-64-200-149.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net) 02.53.19 Quit stripwax ("Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org") 02.57.51 Part pixelma 03.05.40 Quit markun (Remote closed the connection) 03.05.47 Join markun [50] (n=markun@rockbox/developer/markun) 03.06.13 Join Reinhart2 [0] (i=wizard@chime.student.utwente.nl) 03.06.27 Quit Reinhart_ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 03.13.03 Quit Thundercloud (Remote closed the connection) 03.13.20 Join DavidS1 [0] (n=Tordre@n099h024.wsr.mun.ca) 03.18.09 Quit linuxstb_ (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 03.18.17 Join linuxstb_ [0] (n=linuxstb@rockbox/developer/linuxstb) 03.20.27 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 03.27.50 Quit linuxstb_ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 03.27.52 Join linuxstb__ [0] (n=linuxstb@i-83-67-212-170.freedom2surf.net) 03.28.00 Nick linuxstb__ is now known as linuxstb (n=linuxstb@i-83-67-212-170.freedom2surf.net) 03.31.03 Quit DavidSG (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 03.42.56 # :-( 03.48.18 # ? 03.50.53 # quite drunk, nevermind me 03.51.09 # heh ;-) 03.54.15 Join Twilt [0] (i=18482eb4@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-f2bd6f5ead84a15b) 03.54.43 # Hello can somebody tell me how to load themes in rockbox. 03.55.08 # the manual can 03.56.27 Quit DavidS1 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 03.57.29 # Okay... 03.57.49 # How do I dual boot rockbox and my original sansa e250 frimware? 03.58.08 # *cough* manual 03.59.25 # ... 03.59.46 # get the pfd and search for key words. 03.59.49 # never mind I found it. You have to push |<< to go to the original firmware from rockbox 04.00.02 # i'm sure you'll find the answer of almost all of your questions 04.00.03 Quit Twilt ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") 04.00.18 # ah well 04.01.17 Quit BlackChaos ("Leaving") 04.02.31 Join DerPapst_ [0] (n=Der@p5B23EF63.dip.t-dialin.net) 04.02.33 Quit DerPapst (Nick collision from services.) 04.02.35 Nick DerPapst_ is now known as DerPapst (n=Der@p5B23EF63.dip.t-dialin.net) 04.04.08 Join FOAD_ [0] (n=dok@dinah.blub.net) 04.13.19 Join linuxstb_ [0] (n=linuxstb@rockbox/developer/linuxstb) 04.20.25 Quit FOAD (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 04.20.25 Nick FOAD_ is now known as FOAD (n=dok@dinah.blub.net) 04.25.44 Join ragsagar [0] (n=root@59.93.40.42) 04.25.54 # anyone 04.26.07 # tried rockbox in philips gogear?? 04.26.24 # are you hoping it would "just work"? 04.26.40 # dont knnow ") 04.26.43 # :( 04.27.22 Quit linuxstb (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 04.27.22 # well, it wont...rockbox needs to be ported to each device specifically...it really is a much more complex process than that 04.27.26 # but rockbox is not available specific for gogear 04.27.54 # correct 04.28.20 # wat abt trying one for a similar player?? 04.28.27 # is that a bad idea?? 04.28.38 # and how would you "try one"? 04.28.40 # there will be difference in its hw isnt it?? 04.30.47 # installing rockbox for a player that is similar to that of gogear! 04.31.10 # so everyone else is sleeping online?? 04.31.39 Join homielowe [0] (n=eric_j_l@d205-250-150-38.bchsia.telus.net) 04.31.48 # ragsagar, lots of people are away from their computer sometimes 04.31.51 # but how could you install rockbox? 04.32.09 # ::D 04.32.26 # but now most of them are away 04.32.41 # check out the NewPort wiki page....really...it isnt that easy 04.33.08 # so i will wait till the rockbox guys releases one for goear isnt it?? 04.33.49 # it if happens, sure 04.34.08 # ok thanx man! 04.40.44 Quit troy_ (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 04.42.48 Join myk_robinson [0] (n=myk@69.42.45.6) 04.43.17 Quit TaylorKillian (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 04.49.14 Part ragsagar ("Leaving") 04.50.02 Join noneed [0] (n=no@cpe-76-186-86-19.tx.res.rr.com) 04.51.12 # Does anyone know if you install Rockbox onto your Ipod if an alpine head unit will still be able to controll the player or if it will treat it as a standard mp3 player 04.53.24 Join ctaylorr [0] (n=ctaylorr@bas1-toronto43-1279529172.dsl.bell.ca) 04.55.12 # might want to search the IpodAccessories page, the forums and the IRC logs 04.55.44 Quit myk_robinson (Remote closed the connection) 04.55.57 Join MU{lappy} [0] (n=Militant@pool-72-70-183-80.hrbgpa.fios.verizon.net) 04.56.54 # not sure if anybody else has tried, but clearing the bootable flag via fdisk on my S60 makes USB MSC work in linux, and does not appear to break OF or rockbox 04.59.10 # similar things have been tested yesterday/today. 04.59.40 Join DerPapst_ [0] (n=Der@p5B23F80A.dip.t-dialin.net) 04.59.42 Quit DerPapst (Nick collision from services.) 04.59.44 Nick DerPapst_ is now known as DerPapst (n=Der@p5B23F80A.dip.t-dialin.net) 05.00.10 # http://www.rockbox.org/irc/log-20080418#16:17:59 05.05.05 Join webguest99 [0] (n=3cb066a4@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-a13fb63c03d7f21c) 05.10.17 Join TaylorKillian [0] (n=Administ@wl198118.wright.edu) 05.11.27 Join DaCapn [0] (n=dacapn@c-76-105-220-239.hsd1.or.comcast.net) 05.15.06 Quit webguest99 ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 05.16.18 Join lando___ [0] (n=lando@c-66-176-46-197.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) 05.18.20 # so i see. maybe somebody should mention in the wiki. doesn't seem a big enough thing to be worth my asking for write privileges. 05.19.40 # Does anyone know if you install Rockbox onto your Ipod if an alpine head unit will still be able to controll the player or if it will treat it as a standard mp3 player 05.20.31 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 05.22.55 # noneed: you asked that before...did you search for your answer like i asked? 05.24.06 # i had already searched before i asked in IRC 05.24.21 # if you don't know i'll continue my search throughout the web 05.26.14 Quit noneed () 05.27.07 Quit lando__ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 05.43.32 Quit Veight (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 05.44.24 Quit DerPapst (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 05.47.38 Quit Mouser_X (Nick collision from services.) 05.47.46 Join Mouser_X [0] (n=mouser_x@layl001.digis.net) 05.58.08 Part wpyh 06.00.12 Quit javaman (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 06.10.49 Quit XavierGr () 06.11.33 Join XavierGr [0] (n=xavier@rockbox/staff/XavierGr) 06.14.15 Quit EspeonEefi ("さよなら") 06.14.34 Join jhulst [0] (n=jhulst@unaffiliated/jhulst) 06.21.36 Quit Chronon ("ChatZilla 0.9.81 [Firefox 2.0.0.13/2008031100]") 06.22.28 Join kkurbjun [0] (n=kkurbjun@c-67-174-104-139.hsd1.co.comcast.net) 06.26.18 Quit jhulst (Remote closed the connection) 06.27.48 Join jhulst [0] (n=jhulst@unaffiliated/jhulst) 06.27.51 # anybody notice that latest build r17164 is broken for gigabeat f40? Songs don't play, and the buffering thread is at 0 for all of them 06.28.27 Join boxerorange [0] (n=boxerora@mn-10k-dhcp1-7950.dsl.hickorytech.net) 06.31.28 # Anybody got a f40? 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The intermediate might need 64 bits though. 13.13.31 # It's not 100% precise either way, because each clock switch takes time (typically 250..500 us on PP, and typically 2ms on coldfire), during which the CPU is running from the base clock (24MHz for PP, 11 MHz for coldfire) 13.17.34 Join DerPapst [0] (n=Der@p5B23F80A.dip.t-dialin.net) 13.18.07 # so, I'll just keep it -- it's just easier to directly see the MHz instead of using my calculator each time 13.18.31 # * amiconn thinks his suggested calculation would be better 13.18.56 # You can even display it with higher precision this way, e.g. by displaying a kHz value 13.19.44 # maybe i'll submit a "optimization" later this weekend 13.20.08 # * Buschel just will fix the red today as he has got some visitors over weekend 13.20.42 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 13.21.32 # Maybe I'll try this - it might even end up with less code if the required libgcc routines for 64 bit math are already linked anyway (which is rather likely on swcodec) 13.21.50 # feel free to change 13.22.42 Join DerPapst_ [0] (n=Der@p5B23F80A.dip.t-dialin.net) 13.22.44 Quit DerPapst (Nick collision from services.) 13.22.46 Nick DerPapst_ is now known as DerPapst (n=Der@p5B23F80A.dip.t-dialin.net) 13.23.02 Join gevaerts [0] (n=fg@195-144-092-142.dyn.adsl.xs4all.be) 13.28.54 Join dabujo [0] (i=xx@p4FDB2C48.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 13.29.46 # MU{lappy}: still there ? 13.30.30 Quit jhMikeS (Nick collision from services.) 13.30.36 Join jhMikeS [50] (n=jethead7@rockbox/developer/jhMikeS) 13.31.25 Quit TaylorKillian (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 13.32.51 Join Thundercloud [0] (n=thunderc@resnet30.nat.lancs.ac.uk) 13.34.24 # BigBambi: ping 13.39.48 Join gregzx [0] (n=chatzill@drl26.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) 13.43.00 Join herrwaldo [0] (n=waldo@ip-81-11-209-92.dsl.scarlet.be) 13.43.01 # gevaerts: There seems to be a ping filter installed in here now ;( 13.44.10 # * gevaerts guesses that lots of people suffer from the RL-disease 13.45.47 Quit Buschel () 13.45.47 Part mcflow 13.49.20 Quit Thundercloud (Remote closed the connection) 13.52.01 Join Nico_P [50] (n=nicolas@rockbox/developer/NicoP) 13.53.23 Join Thundercloud [0] (n=thunderc@resnet31.nat.lancs.ac.uk) 13.56.55 Join tvelocity [0] (n=tony@ppp251-54.adsl.forthnet.gr) 14.05.31 # gevaerts: my beast is an S30 14.06.15 # but apparently the S30 and the S60 have the same partition table :) 14.06.23 # ? 14.07.02 # I was referring to what you asked BigBambi yesterday evening (I'm reading the logs) 14.07.16 # How can they have the same partition table ? 14.08.06 # hmm then maybe BigBambi has an S30 now :) 14.08.26 # but I seemed to remember that the second partition was defined bugger than the disk 14.08.37 # s/bugger/bigger 14.09.07 # That can't be right... 14.09.34 # * Nico_P checks his partition table 14.12.31 # well my current partition table says the second partition is ~28 GB, so if BigBambi is using the same table, he's now got an S30 14.14.11 # * gevaerts probably made a mistake somewhere when sending this partition tableto BigBambi... 14.15.06 # Nico_P: I prepared a small change to the picture flow plugin to fix a cpu boost problem, can you have a look at it? 14.15.15 # sure 14.16.36 # it's here: http://pastebin.ca/989484 14.17.31 # bertrik: could you describe the issue it fixes? 14.17.38 # the problem was in case the plugin exited with an error, it never reached the cpu_boost call but did reach the cpu unboost call, resulting in unboosted playback 14.17.50 # ah, right 14.18.27 # by placing the cpu_boost() calls right around the call to main, it's guaranteed to always be boosted/unboosted symmetrically 14.19.05 # the other thing it fixes, is a missed call to cleanup if write_pfconfig fails 14.23.18 # bertrik: feel free to commit :) 14.23.31 # Nico_P: ok, I will :) 14.24.36 Join DerPapst_ [0] (n=Der@p5B23F80A.dip.t-dialin.net) 14.24.38 Quit DerPapst (Nick collision from services.) 14.24.40 Nick DerPapst_ is now known as DerPapst (n=Der@p5B23F80A.dip.t-dialin.net) 14.27.37 Join fehmicans [0] (n=canavar@88.252.148.89) 14.30.58 Part pixelma 14.32.18 # * amiconn binchops through the .text section on PP5002 14.32.57 # * gevaerts hopes that there will be something left after all that chopping 14.39.52 # making stuff static and/or const? 14.40.32 # No, searching for the spot where alignment makes some builds hang 14.41.36 # hello 14.41.41 # scorche|sh scorche 14.42.05 # i need to get in touch with midkay as soon as possible.. does anyone have any ideas on how i could accomplish that? :P 14.50.04 Join menollo [0] (n=817d6b0e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-403cd7febf88a3f5) 14.50.59 Quit DerPapst (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 14.52.34 Join DerPapst [0] (n=Der@p5B23F80A.dip.t-dialin.net) 14.53.03 Join denes [0] (n=denes@pool-4083.adsl.interware.hu) 14.53.24 # i've a old pc (pentium 2,4 ghz) with a 100 mbit up/down connection.. It can be used as rockbox buildserver.. what do I have to do? I've the elf compiler (by running rockboxdev.sh)... 14.54.35 # I think you need to talk to Bagder for that. IIRC he's away until tonight or tomorrow 14.55.15 # ok, i will ask him later :) thanks 14.57.06 # You might want to check things described on http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/BuildServer 14.57.55 Quit Zarggg (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 15.01.15 Join bertrik_ [0] (n=bertrik@162-023-045-062.dynamic.caiway.nl) 15.05.40 # Hi! I want to edit the wiki, namely this page: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/SamsungSA58 15.05.55 # because there is no such thing as sa5840 afaik 15.06.00 # but there is s5l840f 15.06.12 # which is waltz 15.07.02 # and s5l840f is calmrisc16+calmdsp2424, without any arm core 15.07.29 # see web.interware.hu/rudas/dbalatoni/S5L840F.pdf 15.07.49 # What's your wiki name ? 15.08.14 # a player using this chip: Perception Digital / MyMusix PD-205 / Nexx NF-250 15.08.19 # gevaerts: DenesBalatoni 15.08.51 # for info about this player see: web.interware.hu/rudas/dbalatoni/pd205.html 15.09.09 # this is about the information I want to include in the wiki 15.09.26 # s/about/roughly/ 15.09.39 # also it might be worth mentioning s5l8424 15.09.54 # OK. you should have access now. Just promise not to spam ;) 15.10.00 # which is an updated version of waltz with more sram, etc. 15.10.21 # gevaerts: thanks, than I will update the SamsungSA58 page! :) 15.16.02 Quit bertrik (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 15.17.23 Quit desowin ("KVIrc 4.0.0 Insomnia http://www.kvirc.net/") 15.17.53 Join desowin [0] (n=desowin@atheme/developer/desowin) 15.19.48 Nick bertrik_ is now known as bertrik (n=bertrik@162-023-045-062.dynamic.caiway.nl) 15.20.39 Join webguest34 [0] (n=4fa61124@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-0c405fd716533cc7) 15.20.44 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 15.22.02 # i just installed rockbox through rockbox utility , now when i reset my ipod i have to choose bewtween disk mode , aple os , and sleep 15.22.20 # eh? 15.22.28 # that sounds more like Loader 2 15.22.33 # and not the rockbox bootloader 15.22.59 # i did the full install from rockbox utility 15.23.57 # how should i continue from there ? 15.24.14 # but you have a blue window with these 3 options and a green selectionbar? 15.25.08 # yes thats true 15.25.10 # thats all i see 15.25.15 # have you tried to install iPodLinux before or after that? 15.25.35 # because that is the iPodLinux bootloader. 15.25.47 # i tried to but it didnt work 15.25.54 # it said that it couldt find the ipdo 15.25.58 # *ipod 15.26.03 # and i guess that is the last thing on earth the rbutility is going to install 15.26.29 # what should i do ? 15.26.47 # try to rerun rbutility 15.26.59 # and do what ? uninstall ? 15.27.02 # may i ask what method you used to install iPL? 15.27.03 # and reinstall ? 15.27.10 # just reinstall 15.27.32 # webguest34: do you have itunes installed ? If so, you might try to restore the ipod first from there. That will get it in a known and consistent state. 15.27.48 # yes man i have 15.27.58 # if there is a SURE way to make it work , please tell me 15.28.13 # the restore with itunes will wor 15.28.16 # *work 15.28.30 # ok i will do that right now 15.28.34 # and then reinstall rockbox with rbutility 15.28.41 # all data will be lost right ? 15.28.49 # * gevaerts doesn't know 15.28.50 # may i ask again how you tried to install iPodLinux 15.28.52 # yes 15.28.59 # it will format the iPod 15.29.30 # there is not exact answer because i tried many different things from both mac and win 15.29.36 # and its a complete mess 15.29.43 # so i think restore would be a good idea 15.29.53 # it also deletes bootloader right ? 15.30.08 # i guess you used iPLs bloody forums :-/ 15.30.09 # yes 15.30.20 # yea... 15.30.26 # ok i cant do it now i gotta go 15.30.28 # but 15.30.32 # to sum up 15.30.36 # i should restore 15.30.37 # * DerPapst should delete the entire forums 15.30.59 # and then run therockbox utility again ? 15.31.06 # restore, use rbutility and if you wnat iPL use the wiki and not the forums 15.31.12 # yes 15.31.36 # no i dont want ipl 15.31.47 # i think the itulity has one of its own right ? 15.32.00 # what? 15.32.29 # if i restore ipod , and then fully install from the rbutility 15.32.37 # i will have bootloader right ? 15.33.06 # yes 15.33.15 # Yes. Make sure you use the latest version though 15.33.57 # ok 15.34.14 # and then i can install games ? 15.34.26 # All games are included 15.34.58 # when you say all ? 15.34.59 # for some you need roms though 15.35.51 # * gevaerts lets DerPapst explain :) 15.35.52 # when i do full instalation from rbutility there are games also included ? 15.35.59 # yes 15.36.04 # everything in SVN is ionstalled 15.36.10 # *installed 15.36.22 # but for the gameboy emolator you need roms 15.36.24 # is there chess also included ? 15.36.34 # just tell me that please if u can 15.36.34 # they obviously don't ship with rockbox 15.36.52 # yes. Have a look at the manual. It lists all included games 15.36.52 # * DerPapst isn't aware of chess 15.37.05 # yes there is 15.37.16 # there's chess ? !!! 15.37.23 # wow thank you for leting me know 15.37.23 # yes 15.37.52 # * DerPapst never played it becuase he's to stupid for it 15.38.18 # well i play it for years 15.38.25 # and im sure im more stupid than you 15.38.27 # * gevaerts played some chess a long time ago, but he was never very good at it 15.38.50 # hehe 15.38.54 Quit UncleRemus (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 15.39.10 # everything is a matter of practice my friend... 15.39.22 # another question 15.39.22 # * gevaerts knows :) 15.39.37 # if the installation includes games then why in the tab extras it says install games ? 15.40.05 # Some of the games (doom, the gameboy emulator,...) need extra datafiles to be useful 15.40.27 # ah ok 15.40.39 # when i do the clear installation i wont see the same bootloader right ? 15.40.45 # I think it's about those. 15.40.51 # with disk mode and apple os 15.41.00 # this is loader 2 15.41.09 # rbutility doesn'T install loader 2 15.41.30 # it has its own or somehting ? 15.41.51 # yes 15.41.57 Join UncleRemus [0] (n=caj@78-69-154-184-no176.tbcn.telia.com) 15.42.02 # rockbox uses its own bootloader 15.42.13 # ok 15.42.23 # i just restored the ipod 15.42.32 # should i update firmware form itunes ? 15.42.34 # *from 15.42.46 Quit menollo ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)") 15.43.28 # ah actually it has the latest version 15.43.34 # 1.3 15.44.00 # the version of the OF doesn't matter 15.44.08 # I myself have 1.2.1 installed 15.44.30 # ah ok 15.44.55 # i started rbutility full instalation , it prompted me that the bootloader is already installed 15.45.01 # i chose to replace 15.45.07 # right ? 15.45.53 # tha last part says , getting themes information , error : no themes found 15.45.59 # and i can press ok only 15.46.03 # is this a bad thing ? 15.46.29 # is it an ipod video? 15.46.34 # yes 15.46.40 # then that is expected 15.46.50 # ok 15.47.34 # ok i restarted the ipod and see rockbox menu 15.47.53 # great :) 15.47.56 # Files , Database , Resume PLayback and such 15.48.01 # this is ok ? 15.48.31 # yes 15.48.47 # congratulations, you've successfully installed Rockbox 15.48.48 # where are the games ? :P 15.48.50 # :-) 15.48.56 # In "plugins" 15.48.56 # plugins -> games 15.48.58 # thank you so much 15.49.09 # that was by far the best help i ever got from irc 15.49.11 # seriously 15.49.19 # keymaps etc, can be found in the manual 15.49.37 # ok from now on i think i can read the manual and dont bother u guys any longer 15.51.04 # just one last thing , how can i choose if i want to boot in rockbox or the normal ipod ? 15.51.57 # as soon as you turn it on, flick the hold switch into the "on" position to boot the OF 15.52.18 # OF ? 15.52.40 # to return from the OF to rockbox, press select + menu for 20 seconds 15.52.47 # Official Firwamre 15.52.48 # of = original firmware 15.53.38 Join UncleRem1s [0] (n=caj@78-69-154-184-no176.tbcn.telia.com) 15.53.50 # ok 15.53.53 # thanks again guys 15.54.08 # you saved a lot of hours..... 15.54.10 # bye 15.54.10 # jhMikeS: ping 15.54.41 Join mrkiko [0] (n=pv@adsl-ull-85-33.47-151.net24.it) 15.54.44 # jhMikeS: unping (I misread the code...) 15.54.46 # webguest34; bye 15.55.40 Quit webguest34 ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 15.57.24 Quit Mathiasdm ("Yuuw!") 15.58.07 Join Mathiasdm [0] (n=Mathias@vpne214.ugent.be) 15.58.11 # * DerPapst wonders how brickable the beast is... 15.59.16 # DerPapst: do you have an ipod video that you're not afraid to open ? If so, I think you should be able to use that to access the beast disk in case of disaster 15.59.45 # yep... 15.59.48 # that would work 16.00.04 Join zubair_ [0] (n=xerxes@59.178.41.170) 16.00.18 # i have like 3 different nk.bin files now and i don't know which of them to use for mknkboot 16.00.22 # ;-) 16.02.43 # * DerPapst decides to wait for an owner of a rockboxed beast. 16.03.09 Join Bi-noix [0] (n=Binoix@nor75-3-82-226-37-131.fbx.proxad.net) 16.03.13 Part Bi-noix ("Leaving") 16.03.21 Part zubair_ ("Leaving") 16.03.50 Quit UncleRemus (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 16.07.05 Join zubair_ [0] (n=xerxes@59.178.41.170) 16.08.22 Quit UncleRem1s (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 16.08.56 Join UncleRemus [0] (n=caj@78-69-154-184-no176.tbcn.telia.com) 16.18.09 # DerPapst: the beast is hard to brick AFAIK 16.18.29 # and with a video to use as HD enclosure, you're pretty safe 16.18.29 # good :-) 16.18.35 # do you need help? 16.18.39 # yes :-) 16.18.56 # I'm all ears 16.19.05 # 2 questions. i have like 3 different nk.bins. which one do i use? 16.19.28 Join cruakk [0] (n=jp@bdv75-1-81-57-102-102.fbx.proxad.net) 16.19.40 # you can use the one from the bootloader build directly, or you can use mknkboot to patch an OF nk.bin 16.19.41 # one ships with gbv_update_1_5_jp.exe 16.20.25 Join UncleRem1s [0] (n=caj@78-69-154-184-no176.tbcn.telia.com) 16.20.40 # Hi 16.20.49 # that one would probably do. I can't remember where I got the one I'm using, but its md5 is fb76b0025cd6bd2cc7512620ebf30b81 16.22.22 # DerPapst: but the worst case scenario with using sendfirm with an invalid nk.bin is having to use the restore mode to send another one 16.23.08 # would someone be interested in the donation of an archos jukebox fm recorder circuit board ? 16.23.19 # if that can be of use 16.23.38 # the syncatx for mknkboot is: mknkboot $NK_ORIG bootloader/bootloader.bin $NK_OUT 16.23.53 Join DerPapst_ [0] (n=Der@p5B23F80A.dip.t-dialin.net) 16.23.55 Quit DerPapst (Nick collision from services.) 16.23.57 Nick DerPapst_ is now known as DerPapst (n=Der@p5B23F80A.dip.t-dialin.net) 16.23.58 # * Nico_P wonders how he could possibly have misspelt syntax so badly 16.24.20 # ? 16.24.34 # it will go to the trash can then 16.24.39 # cruakk: there are only very few people active right now... 16.24.40 # i've used nk_orig.bin in GigabeatSRecover together with mknkboot 16.24.54 # Nico_P: got disconnected. i'll try the md5 sim 16.24.56 # *sum 16.25.13 # DerPapst: I don't think you missed anything I said 16.25.22 # gevaerts ok, you think that it can be of help to the dev team / someone from the rockbox community ? 16.25.55 Quit ompaul (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 16.26.01 # cruakk: where are you from? 16.26.03 # cruakk: I think there's not much development left to do on archos devices 16.26.04 Join ompaulafk [0] (n=ompaul@gnewsense/friend/ompaul) 16.26.07 # * DerPapst read the logs ;-) 16.26.11 # markun france 16.26.21 # Nico_P okay, that's what I was thinking 16.26.25 # un compatriote! 16.26.32 # Nico_P hh :) 16.26.40 Join w1ll14m [0] (n=william@dhcp-077-249-150-171.chello.nl) 16.26.48 # * gevaerts expects them to start singing the Marseillaise now 16.27.01 # lol gevaerts 16.27.04 Quit ompaulafk (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 16.27.05 Quit ctaylorr_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 16.27.08 Join FOAD_ [0] (n=dok@dinah.blub.net) 16.27.31 Join ompaul [0] (n=ompaul@gnewsense/friend/ompaul) 16.28.06 # ok le vieil archos la belpou ^^ 16.28.24 # have a nice evening everyone 16.28.36 # merci :) 16.28.41 # and thank you for rockbox 16.28.42 # :) 16.29.03 # DerPapst: I have to leave but I shouldn't be too long (and I'm sure you'll be fine) 16.29.15 # bleh.. md5 is missing in cygwin and i can't find the package o.O 16.29.18 Part cruakk 16.29.28 # Nico_P thanks 16.29.39 # what is the hacked updater btw? 16.30.00 # the hacked updater is used to send a firmware file using windows 16.30.12 # don't worry too much about the MD5. there are other versions that work ok too 16.30.29 # ok 16.30.53 # but where is the hacked updater? or can i use sendfirm from windwos too? 16.31.31 # is it gbv_update_1_5_jp.exe? 16.31.53 Quit UncleRemus (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 16.31.55 Quit zubair_ ("Leaving") 16.32.24 # derpapst is this about Gigabeat S ? 16.32.29 # yep 16.32.31 # ahh 16.32.32 # nice 16.32.41 # i just installed rockbox 30 mins ago ;) 16.32.54 # on the beast? 16.33.02 # i think the gbv_update_1_5jp.exe isn't patched 16.33.07 # yeah on Gigabeat S 16.33.14 # ums seems to work in windows 16.33.17 # :D 16.33.26 Join domonok1 [0] (n=Domonoky@92.228.11.2) 16.33.32 # i hate mtp .... 16.33.37 # hehe :-) 16.33.45 # maybe you could use the gigabeatSrestore.zip ? 16.33.53 # how did you transfer the nk.bin? 16.33.57 # it contains *original* 16.34.01 # i used sendfirm 16.34.09 # used a linux machine 16.34.15 # ah ok 16.34.34 # after that i used wmp11 to transfer rockbox.tar 16.34.45 # the rb bootloader does the rest 16.35.06 # only the i2c is needed for audio, doesn't work yet.... 16.35.13 # * gevaerts spots lots of beast owners... 16.35.19 # i wish i'd new how to write these 16.35.25 # knew* 16.35.48 # ok... i have a correct nk.bin file now. 16.35.48 # Is someone willing to test if the beast still boots if the first partition is set tto type 0x1b (hidden FAT32) ? 16.35.49 Join phinze [0] (n=phinze@pcp027324pcs.jesres.mu.edu) 16.36.02 # i will.... 16.36.08 # howto ? 16.36.21 # fdisk 16.36.21 # There is a risk that you need "heavy" recovery afterwards... 16.36.27 # heavy means ? 16.36.41 # get the disk out and repartition it in an ipod ? 16.36.49 # That's worst case, yes 16.37.04 # for example. don't know if the recovery mode still works then 16.37.17 # it seems recovery images are on partition1 16.37.22 # c: 16.37.24 # meh 16.37.31 # guess they won't work after that 16.37.57 # The thing is that we would like the firmware partition not to be mounted by default, to prevent accidents later 16.38.08 # i understand ;) 16.38.28 # i will get an image of my boot sectors + partition table, then image of xda1 (via dd) 16.38.35 Quit FOAD (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 16.38.35 Nick FOAD_ is now known as FOAD (n=dok@dinah.blub.net) 16.38.46 # so i will beable to restore with ipod video as they have emergency diskmode in flash 16.38.50 # While you're at it, you can also reset the bootable flags correctly from within fdisk. That will make it work properly in linux 16.39.00 # Yes. If you do that, you're safe 16.39.20 # gevaerts, can you explain a little more about these bootflags ? 16.39.28 # you mean remove the bootflag from partition0 ? 16.39.32 # c 16.39.46 # mh... nk.bin and nk_orig.bin in GigabeatSRecover are the same... good to know :-P 16.40.10 # i think you could replace both with the *new* brewed image 16.40.33 # worst case, i could send you an hd image of my gigabeat, and replace it from an ipod video 16.40.55 Quit mrkiko ("Lost terminal") 16.41.00 # it's time to get my linux pc back ti the living room :) 16.41.14 # w1ll14m: the issue is that the bootflags are wrong. They should be 0x80 (bootable) or 0x00 (non-bootable), but they are 0x01, which linux doesn't like 16.42.48 # w1ll14m: if you're in linux fdisk, "a 1 a 2" should clear them both, and then it should work 16.43.24 # * DerPapst grabs usb cable, charger and the beast 16.43.46 # ok.... 16.43.57 # connecting linux pc now 16.44.30 Join DerPapst_ [0] (n=Der@p5B23F80A.dip.t-dialin.net) 16.44.32 Quit DerPapst (Nick collision from services.) 16.44.34 Nick DerPapst_ is now known as DerPapst (n=Der@p5B23F80A.dip.t-dialin.net) 16.48.10 # When checking for album art, any opinions against using album artist, if available, rather than "plain" artist? 16.49.00 # * gevaerts doesn't understand the question, but since he doesn't use album art, that's not important 16.49.19 Quit domonoky (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 16.50.23 Join bughunter2 [0] (n=Jelle@ip565fbeaa.direct-adsl.nl) 16.50.51 # * gevaerts hates usb problems that go away once you try to trace them 16.53.15 # One of the files Rockbox looks for is ./rockbox/albumart/-..bmp. Artist and title comes from the tag, but there are two possible artists, "normal" artist and "album" artist. 16.53.35 # gevaerts... 16.53.39 # i'm creating a backup now 16.53.47 # good idea ;) 16.53.53 # dumping sda to file 16.54.08 # as it doesn't detect the partitions 16.54.17 Quit DerPapst (Nick collision from services.) 16.54.19 Join DerPapst_ [0] (n=Der@p5B23F80A.dip.t-dialin.net) 16.54.28 # Yes. That's what the bootable-resetting should fix 16.54.31 # is it known how to write the i2c drivers ? 16.54.45 # aha 16.55.07 Quit Adys (Remote closed the connection) 16.55.12 Join robin0800 [0] (n=robin080@cpc2-brig8-0-0-cust394.brig.cable.ntl.com) 16.55.26 # Lear: I think that makes sense 16.55.26 # my beast asks me to update or restore the Portable Media Center using some PC program. shall i ignore this? 16.55.40 # i'll try it first with a loop 16.56.01 # Lear: yes it makes sense, but what if the album artitst isn't set? it would be better to use the artist in that case 16.57.50 Join Adys [0] (n=Adys@unaffiliated/adys) 16.58.02 # * DerPapst_ grabs the beasts manual.... 16.58.39 Join DerPapst [0] (n=Der@p5B23F80A.dip.t-dialin.net) 16.59.42 # * DerPapst notices that the quckstart is larger than the manual. 16.59.58 # lol 17.00.31 # and the dude i got the beast from forgot to ship the a/v cable 17.01.40 # lol 17.01.46 # i have a nice av cable here :) 17.02.23 Join mcflow [0] (n=mcflow@88-134-3-18-dynip.superkabel.de) 17.03.15 # backup is still being created 17.03.17 Join mcuelenaere [0] (n=mcuelena@rockbox/developer/mcuelenaere) 17.03.25 Quit mcuelenaere (Remote closed the connection) 17.03.39 # ok i ask again... the beast displays a yellow triangle with a 2 inside and asks to be updated or restored with some program (Portable Media Center). Shall i ignore this? 17.03.55 # nope 17.04.04 Join mcuelenaere [0] (n=mcuelena@rockbox/developer/mcuelenaere) 17.04.07 # use the updater you GigabeatSRestore 17.04.18 # you should beable to restore it 17.04.29 # i used that.. Before i droped the new nk.bin in there. 17.04.37 # hmmm then use the old ones 17.04.43 # and then it jumped to the /2\ 17.04.45 # it should get you back to stock 17.05.07 Quit spiorf (Remote closed the connection) 17.05.17 # well i don't want to restore it. I'm still trying to install the rb bootloader 17.05.24 # i know.... 17.05.33 # but it will atleast get your device working again.... 17.05.35 # hold on 17.05.42 Quit petur ("switching....") 17.05.48 # it didn't stop working yet :-/ 17.05.51 Join petur [50] (n=petur@rockbox/developer/petur) 17.06.35 # ok, changed the bootflags 17.06.35 # i made the nk.bin thingy with mknkboot and droped the new nk.bin file in GigabeatSRestore 17.06.56 # mknkboot nk.bin bootloader.bin new_nk.bin 17.06.59 # then i connected the best in recoverymode to my pc 17.07.06 # yes, i know 17.07.11 # *beast 17.07.11 # ok just checking.... 17.07.18 # should create a good image... 17.07.30 # I'm not sure the hacked V updater can be used to send a modded nk.bin 17.07.31 # it displayed a !1\ before 17.07.39 # might be that the updater doesn't flash the image as this image should be flashed 17.08.00 # then i ran the exe, it did some magic and bow the beast shows the /2\ 17.08.10 Quit RoC_MasterMind (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 17.08.31 # * DerPapst still doesn't know where the hacked updater is. 17.08.36 # hmmmm 17.08.43 # is this the one in GigabeatSRestore? 17.08.57 # yes 17.09.07 # ok. 17.09.20 # the wiki page doesn't explicitly say that... 17.10.09 # gevaerts, changing the boot flags works fine here 17.10.18 # system boots normal and rockbox 17.10.28 # linux can read partitions now 17.10.32 # also mount them correctly 17.10.33 # w1ll14m: great. Now the partition type for partition 1... 17.10.44 # Step 3 for the windows instructions say that you have to use the hacked gigabeat updater (the one in GigabeatSRestore). 17.10.52 # I did that. 17.10.52 # Nico_P: Yes, of course. Hence the "if available" part. :) 17.11.08 # Lear: sorry, I read too fast 17.11.21 # which one >? 17.11.25 # which type ? 17.11.31 # 1c ? 17.12.04 # gevaerts, 1c ? 17.12.08 # 1b 17.12.10 # but it doesn't say that i shall unplug the cable 17.12.25 # ok testing 17.12.36 # The original (at least on the S30) seems to be 0b, so the "hidden" variant is 1b 17.12.39 # it asks for a resore or update of the Portable Media Center. 17.13.47 # hmmm it seems gigabeat is not booting anymore 17.14.28 # emergency restore still works 17.14.31 # ncie 17.14.32 # nice 17.14.55 # meh. unplugging now 17.15.17 # gevaerts, changing to 1b gave me semi-brick gigabeat S 17.15.25 Join RoC_MasterMind [0] (n=Free@c-71-203-172-58.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) 17.15.28 # still beable to do EmergencyRecovery tho 17.15.28 # works 17.15.30 # :) 17.15.43 # w1ll14m: thanks. That means that we have to think of a different solution to hide that partition 17.15.48 # DerPapst: Congrats :) 17.16.00 # gevaerts, indeed 17.16.02 # well it isn't bricked so... 17.16.02 # I just installed rockbox on my toshiba gigabeat f40, can I remove the folders on the disk like "demo_music, gbsystem, and update"? 17.16.10 Join BuXY95 [0] (n=5400bafc@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-423d08f00b4f411d) 17.16.14 # i don't know if i actually installed the bootloader or now 17.16.22 # RoC_MasterMind: you can't remove the GBSYSTEM folder 17.16.22 # *not 17.16.24 # RoC_MasterMind: gbsystem must remain 17.16.32 Join Zarggg [0] (n=z@216-15-73-111.c3-0.eas-ubr6.atw-eas.pa.cable.rcn.com) 17.16.45 # K 17.16.50 # derpapst: power on gigabeat, instant switch on hold 17.16.52 # then wait 17.16.59 # if that gets accidentally removed, what happens? 17.17.04 Quit DerPapst_ (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 17.17.23 # RoC_MasterMind: if you don't plan on ever using the original firmware again then you can replace GBSYSTEM with a dummy folder we made for faster booting. 17.17.35 # ahh 17.17.47 # if you remove it by accident you can also use our dummy folder 17.19.14 # RoC_MasterMind: if you remove it by accident, try to not shutdown the player and restore as fast as possible. If not, there are instructions at http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/GigabeatFXPort 17.19.31 # thanks 17.20.45 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 17.21.54 Join bluebrother [0] (n=Dom@rockbox/staff/bluebrother) 17.24.19 # hmm, is it possible to permanently brick an e200? I.e. no recovery possible using e200tool? 17.24.47 # I think it might be possible by writing the i2c rom 17.26.36 # gevaerts, is it possible to 'corrupt' some sectors from usb transfers, that can be used to make sdx1 unreadable ? 17.26.46 # w1ll14m: no 17.26.53 # to bad... 17.26.53 Quit lastebil_ (Read error: 101 (Network is unreachable)) 17.27.01 # Why ? 17.27.25 # it would show up as a partition anyway 17.28.24 # I have started using the latest rockbox on an iPod Photo. There seems to be several power issues, the most troublesome is that it seems not to be able to "Initiate db" even though the batteries are fully loaded. Is this something anyone recognizes? Is there some workaround? Even if the machine is charging it sometimes just shuts down after a while when it reinitializes. 17.28.50 # w1ll14m: I think I see what you're getting at. You can basically do anything you like with the disk data before it goes to the host 17.28.54 Quit Horscht (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 17.29.06 # hmmm rewrite partitiontable from software ? 17.29.21 # and let the machine think it's connected to xda with 1 partition ? 17.29.22 # couldn't I restore the correct i2c rom using e200tool if it's broken? 17.29.28 Join Horscht [0] (n=Horscht@p4FD4FE79.dip.t-dialin.net) 17.29.58 # Not 'rewrite' as such, just lie about it. We could detect that the host is reading the partition table (sector 0) and set 1b from software 17.30.14 # that is what i meant ;) 17.30.19 # bluebrother: no idea. 17.30.28 # my english isn't that good ;) 17.30.55 # w1ll14m: it's an option (and probably the best one), but I would have liked to avoid it. 17.30.59 # well, this could be a 'workaround' for the partition1 showing up 17.31.11 # gevaerts, i understand :) 17.31.17 Quit phinze (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 17.31.33 # but as you say, it is probably the best option we have 17.31.55 # or we should reverse engineer the primary boot image to support hidden partitions, but that would become a little hard i guess 17.32.29 # s/boot image/Gigabeat boot loader/ 17.32.34 # We will need an option to disable this from within rockbox, to be able to update the bootloader and to be able to use fdisk properly 17.33.14 # that is indeed that should be changable from within rockbox 17.33.35 # don't mind the grammar in the line ^^ 17.33.41 # * gevaerts decides that someone who owns a beast should implement this 17.34.09 # * w1ll14m agrees, but w1ll14m needs to learn more about c 17.34.49 # I did big parts of the USB mass storage thing, but if someone wants dirty workarounds, he'll have to implement them himself ;) 17.35.20 # or just the way around.... just be carefull with the c partition.... 17.35.36 # you can remove it, but you'll need to restore your gigabeat again using emergency restore 17.35.39 # * DerPapst has no idea how to transfer the new nk.bin to the beast and tries to compile libmtp in cygwin now... 17.35.48 # derpapst... 17.35.49 Nick fxb is now known as fxb__ (n=felixbru@h1252615.stratoserver.net) 17.35.51 # That will cause lots of support overhead 17.36.04 # overwrite all bins in the gigabeat update folder with nk_new.bin 17.36.19 # i did. 17.36.25 # except recovery.bin 17.36.32 # then ran the batchfile ? 17.36.44 # gevaerts, true 17.36.46 # bertrik: ping 17.37.00 # gevaerts: hallo 17.37.30 # bertrik: I have a USB trace here with IN tokens to EP 80 (i.e. endpoint 0). Does that make sense to you ? 17.37.56 # w1ll14m: but that restores the beast, not install the bootloader or am i wrong? 17.38.14 Quit returntoreality (Remote closed the connection) 17.38.36 Join lastebil [0] (n=truck@cube.lomal.la) 17.38.37 # that installs the image (including new bootloader which should be in nk.bin you created) 17.38.50 # gevaerts: I guess those are requests where the host expects data from the device 17.38.52 # meh... 17.38.56 # thanks :-P 17.39.01 # :) 17.39.16 # what do you find unusual about it? 17.39.45 # bertrik: yes, but I see no corresponding SETUP 17.40.04 Join denes_ [0] (n=denes@pool-1502.adsl.interware.hu) 17.40.05 # wait... but it uses nk_orig.bin, not the nk.bin i made. 17.40.07 # ok that's weird 17.40.31 # gevaerts: when does this happen? 17.40.34 # OK. So it's not just me :) 17.41.15 # It's always near the resets when I use a hub 17.41.20 # meh... libmtp doesn't compile :-/ 17.42.26 # DerPapst: got problems compiling libmtp in cygwin? 17.42.35 # yepo 17.42.43 # try http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=3320.msg104451#msg104451 17.42.47 # worked for me some time ago 17.44.18 # well i can't even compile libmtp 17.44.29 # cygwin ? 17.44.35 # bertrik: forget about it. There is a SETUP... 17.44.42 # yes 17.45.08 # derpapst, i don't know if you would beable to use mtp within cygwin 17.45.30 # w1ll14m: I think I got it working some time ago 17.45.38 # gevaerts: is it a specific setup request that always goes wrong? or is it more random? 17.45.59 # mcuelenaere, you could be right 17.46.05 # derpapst, you want my image ? 17.46.11 # it contains bootloader 0.7 17.46.15 # for rockbox 17.46.28 # asuming you have the 30GB version 17.46.32 # bertrik: It's not the setup that goes wrong. I was mislead... 17.46.36 # i don't think there's a difference 17.46.52 # DerPapst: if you're running on WinXP/WinVista with MTP support, you could try CreativeWizard 17.46.53 # * gevaerts is trying to find out why using a PP device behind a hub doesn't work properly 17.46.56 # anyway I though setup requests are only done just after enumeration and the rest of MSC communication was done using bulk 17.47.00 # i have a 60GB version 17.47.11 # it seems that the update uses pmcboot_secure.bin or pmcboot_secure_update.bin to write firmware 17.47.16 # and i have nk.bin with booloader v0.0000007 17.47.24 # what is your filesize derpapst ? 17.47.40 # bertrik: it is enumeration, after MSC decides to reset the device. I'm trying to find out _why_ it decides that 17.47.52 # my filesize is 13.351.383 17.48.28 # w1ll14m: it renames nk.bin (the one i created) to nk_updater.bin and doesn'T do anything with it anymre 17.49.19 Join javaman [0] (n=Yifu@c-68-84-62-252.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) 17.49.31 # rename nk.bin nk_updater.bin 17.49.32 # rename nk_orig.bin nk.bin 17.49.32 # rename pmcboot_secure.bin pmcboot_secure_updater.bin 17.49.32 DBUG Enqueued KICK w1ll14m 17.49.32 # copy nk.bin pmcboot_secure.bin 17.50.05 # yes... it does all the magic with nk_orig.bin and not with nk.bin 17.50.17 Join coax [0] (i=exis3@unaffiliated/coax) 17.50.20 # so the files nk.bin nk_orig.bin pcmboot_secure.bin are all the newly created nk.bin 17.50.28 # here... 17.50.35 # and it installs rockbox bootloader 17.51.03 # WHere is information on what kind of formats rockbox will play for video? I have a bunch of divx but I can convert with ffmpeg and was wondering exactly what rockbox supports. 17.52.23 # RoC_MasterMind: in short, MPEG 1/2. Details at http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/PluginMpegplayer 17.54.14 Quit Lear ("ChatZilla 0.9.81 [Firefox 3.0pre/2008041417]") 17.55.25 Quit denes (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 17.56.10 Join DerPapst_ [0] (n=Der@p5B23F80A.dip.t-dialin.net) 17.56.12 Quit DerPapst (Nick collision from services.) 17.56.14 Nick DerPapst_ is now known as DerPapst (n=Der@p5B23F80A.dip.t-dialin.net) 17.56.59 Quit DerPapst (Client Quit) 17.57.10 Join DerPapst [0] (n=Der@p5B23F80A.dip.t-dialin.net) 18.00.38 # w1ll14m: no, not here. nk.bin is the one i made. then there is nk_orig.bin which is the one that came in the rar. the script first renames nk.bin to nk_updater.bin and then it renames nk_orig.bin to nk.bin. so it doesn't use the new nk.bin at all. 18.00.38 # when the updater gets executed nk.bin (without bootloader) and pmc_boot.secure are the same. 18.03.36 # *pmcboot_secure.bin 18.04.23 # thanks gevaerts 18.06.50 # .. finally... 18.07.23 # *PANIC* Unhandled IRW in irq_handler 18.07.26 # fun ;-) 18.07.34 # *IRQ 18.07.58 Quit Mouser_X (Nick collision from services.) 18.08.07 Join Mouser_X [0] (n=mouser_x@layl001.digis.net) 18.08.57 Join toffe82 [0] (n=chatzill@adsl-75-12-168-253.dsl.frs2ca.sbcglobal.net) 18.09.08 # yay rockboxed gigabeast! 18.10.00 # yay! 1dtetris on gigabeast :-D 18.10.17 # DerPapst: I think jhMikeS was looking into that 18.10.31 # Can someone with a beast, linux and a USB hub check if it really works properly ? Connect it through the hub, and then "dd if=/dev/sdb of=/dev/null bs=128k count=8000". Then check if the dmesg output doesn't have resets 18.11.46 Join barrywardell [0] (n=barrywar@rockbox/developer/barrywardell) 18.12.54 # heh.. usb didn't initialize correctly the frist time... 18.13.10 # DerPapst: that seems to be expected 18.13.22 Quit gregzx ("ChatZilla 0.9.81 [Firefox 2.0.0.14/2008040413]") 18.13.29 # ah. ok 18.15.22 Quit gromit` (leguin.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 18.15.22 NSplit leguin.freenode.net irc.freenode.net 18.15.22 Quit ze (leguin.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 18.15.22 Quit Battousai (leguin.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 18.19.20 # amiconn: here? 18.19.40 Quit HellDragon (Remote closed the connection) 18.19.56 Join hd [0] (i=jd@unaffiliated/helldragon) 18.20.32 # gevaers: in "void usb_core_transfer_complete(int endpoint, bool in, int status, int length)" what does the "int status" do? 18.20.47 # gevaerts* 18.21.03 NHeal leguin.freenode.net irc.freenode.net 18.21.03 NJoin ze [0] (i=ze@cpe-75-82-143-231.socal.res.rr.com) 18.22.00 NJoin Battousai [0] (n=bryan@maduin.southcape.org) 18.22.04 # mcuelenaere: status==0 means that the transfer succeeded. !=0 means that it failed. I don't think that anything uses the exact value 18.22.30 # ok 18.23.02 Quit BuXY95 ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)") 18.23.36 # Nico_P: ping 18.23.41 # pong 18.23.59 # and if bool in = true, this means a host->device package, right? 18.24.00 # you are hosting GigabeatSRecover.rar right? 18.24.05 # yes 18.24.30 # mcuelenaere: "in" is relative to the host, so in=true is device->host 18.24.30 # could you add bat file called install.bat with this content please? http://pastebin.ca/989677 18.24.57 Quit bertrik (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 18.25.02 # isn't something similar in there already? 18.25.09 # mcuelenaere: it's like that to match the usb spec usage, not to deliberately confuse people ;) 18.25.17 # this is needed to install the modified nk.bin file to the beast. 18.25.33 # Nico_P: no. the one in there restores the beast 18.25.37 # ah 18.25.38 # gevaerts: ok, but it *is* confusing me all the time ;) 18.25.44 Ctcp Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood 18.25.44 # * gevaerts understands 18.26.05 # but if I understand correctly, IN is always device->host and OUT host->device? 18.26.10 Quit w1ll14m (Nick collision from services.) 18.26.15 # Maybe we should rename it to 'send' throughout the code 18.26.20 # mcuelenaere: yes 18.26.26 # I think sometimes it is called send 18.26.35 Join w1ll14m [0] (n=william@dhcp-077-249-150-171.chello.nl) 18.26.44 # Nico_P: if you could do so it would be really cool. I'd update the installation instructions for windows users since they're a bit confusing. 18.27.08 # DerPapst: I suggest attaching the batch file to the wiki page 18.27.21 # or that way... 18.29.04 # gevaerts: is there a big difference between usb_drv_send() and usb_drv_send_nonblocking() i.e. can I use the same implementation for both functions? 18.29.25 # * DerPapst would like to spam rockbox' wiki and needs write permission :-) 18.30.04 # DerPapst: what's your wiki name? 18.30.41 # AlexanderPapst 18.31.49 # did you already register? 18.33.14 # mcuelenaere: basically I think you could use the same implementation, but I'm not entirely sure. You need to call usb_core_transfer_complete() once the data is transfered, 18.33.41 # ok, the usb_core_transfer_complete() thing is already done 18.33.42 # mcuelenaere: yes.. there was a small problem with the activation url and my email client :-P 18.34.18 # DerPapst: ah I see, well you can start spamming now ;) 18.34.38 # woohoo, thanks :-) 18.34.42 # * DerPapst searches some ads 18.34.53 # look at the front page ;) 18.36.11 # * DerPapst decides not to like TWikis markup language :-) 18.36.22 # you'll get used to it 18.37.01 Quit Mathiasdm ("Yuuw!") 18.37.05 # i probably don't do very much work here. still busy with iPLs wiki ;-) 18.41.24 # now i know where this weird WPS syntax comes from... It's a fork of TWikis parsing engine :-D 18.42.27 # Derpapst, there could be a possibility that we could steal some imx31 code from u-boot 18.42.58 # i've read that they had some work done on the imx31 core 18.43.02 # i'm checking it now :) 18.45.58 # mcuelenaere: can you use DMA for usb transfers ? 18.47.53 # gevaerts: I even didn't got further than EP0SETUP packages :( 18.48.10 # hmm....rockbox won't play this video I just transcoded with VLC on my gigabeat f, I followed the mpegplugin guidelines...I am using a ubild from april 1 because the build I tested yesterday doesn't play music (broken). Anybody using a gigabeat with a recent build that works with video? 18.48.15 # gevaerts: I can only receive the first one, further than that I can't get 18.48.22 # mcuelenaere: I meant 'does the controller support dma' :) 18.48.29 # ah :) yes it does 18.48.44 # it even supports some direct connection to the HDD 18.48.55 # and then you can access the HDD through the USB's registers 18.48.55 # Ok, so eventually you can support the nonblocking ones 18.48.56 Join phinze [0] (n=phinze@pcp027324pcs.jesres.mu.edu) 18.50.06 # so blocking means "the transferring of data is done by the CPU" while nonblocking means it is done by the DMA controller? 18.51.09 # mcuelenaere: no. blocking just means "this call will only return once the entire transfer is done". On the ARC controller both are done using DMA, but the blocking case has a wait 18.51.38 # ah, so I have to block that call 18.51.48 # that's interesting 18.51.54 # because right now, I'm not doing it 18.51.54 # mcuelenaere: have a look at prime_transfer() in usb-drv-arc.c 18.52.00 # could that cause problems? 18.53.04 # it could cause problems I guess, although you could do a short udelay() to temporarily work around them 18.53.14 Quit DerPapst (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 18.53.24 Join DerPapst [0] (n=Der@p5B23F80A.dip.t-dialin.net) 18.53.38 # I think udelay() isn't implemented on my target 18.54.09 # If you get an IN control transfer (such as the very first one), you need to first send the requested data back, and once that's done you send an empty packet as an ACK. If those overlap you could be in trouble 18.54.25 # my rockbox also has a huge echo on the voices and sometimes the voices are quiet...is this some kind of sound plugin or EQ I might have turned on? 18.55.01 # gevaerts: my only current way of debugging, is printf() but it seems I'm doing those things you say in the correct order 18.55.25 # although I should receive an interrupt after I've sent the data from the USB chip, which I'm not getting 18.55.41 # sent the data to the host* 18.56.54 # I would concentrate on that interrupt 18.57.18 # that's what I was doing for the past week, but I haven't found the problem 18.57.31 # now I'll try your wait-hint 18.58.50 # * gevaerts tries the sansa OF through a hub to see if he's not just wasting his time... 18.59.57 Quit Adys (Remote closed the connection) 19.00.04 # is there a nice way to link to an anchor on the same page with TWiki? 19.00.35 # like [[#Anchor|desc]] in mediawiki 19.01.12 # maybe [[{PAGENAME}#Anchor|desc]] where {PAGENAME} is the page name? 19.02.02 # the link syntax is a bit different... i hope "(download [[#Gigabeat_V_Firmware_Update_1_5][below]])" works 19.03.20 # I think it should work, yes 19.03.36 # ok. i'll try. 19.07.19 # anybody notice that recent gigabeat f40 builds either the music doesn't play (yesterday's build), or voices are muddled (4/11 and 4/1)? 19.10.10 # RoC_MasterMind: which build exactly for yesterday ? 19.11.24 # not exactly sure, I tried a differnet build almost immediately because it wouldn't decode any music files. I installed it about midnight or 11 PM EST last night. 19.12.18 Join bertrik [0] (n=3e2d17a2@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-79638e84fd90cac1) 19.12.36 Quit phinze (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 19.13.14 # really weird, I've had problems with rockbox before ont he 4g ipod but it was like crashes or not enough CPU when scrolling through a song list to keep the current song playing 19.13.32 # I just reset the settings on it, and it's still muddy....the voices are between really faint and distorted. 19.13.45 # same thing on a different set of headphones 19.15.55 # RoC_MasterMind: I'm now trying 2008-04-18 17153 on my F20, and it works fine 19.16.03 Join gromit` [0] (n=gromit@ALagny-154-1-2-185.w83-112.abo.wanadoo.fr) 19.18.00 # I am trying latestr17173, will plug it into better speakers, see if maybe it's the ear-buds fault (two pairs though?) 19.19.44 Join z35 [0] (n=z@149.123.33.65.cfl.res.rr.com) 19.20.47 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 19.21.29 # that's weird 19.21.57 # when i plug my compuiter speakers in, I can't scroll and rokcbox UI goes unresponsive as long as they are plgged in...hmm.. 19.23.39 # some thing on a differnet set of speakers...that's weird 19.24.47 # * gevaerts doesn't know anything about the gigabeat unfortunately 19.26.22 Quit bertrik ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 19.26.49 Join Adys [0] (n=Adys@unaffiliated/adys) 19.29.03 Quit jcollie (leguin.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 19.29.03 NSplit leguin.freenode.net irc.freenode.net 19.29.52 # RoC_MasterMind: do you have the cradle ? you can try via the line out 19.30.58 NHeal leguin.freenode.net irc.freenode.net 19.30.58 NJoin jcollie [0] (n=jcollie_@dsl-ppp239.isunet.net) 19.31.02 Join ]RowaN[ [0] (i=a2b0y@82-44-85-240.cable.ubr10.nmal.blueyonder.co.uk) 19.32.25 # it's soo weird...it's like I'm outside a concert, and I can hear the music, but the voices are muddy 19.32.29 # I'll try that 19.33.47 # <]RowaN[> is there a guide somewhere for replacing the Sansa OF bootloader with the Rockbox bootloader? iev been looking in the wiki but i cant find anything 19.34.30 Join webguest19 [0] (n=d429f2e7@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-ed544ac82f33b6f8) 19.36.01 # ]RowaN[, i don't think it's documented anywhere, but it's likely been mentioned in IRC, so you could search the logs 19.36.24 # this might be a stupid question... but how can we test if the i2c driver is working ? 19.36.27 # RoC_MasterMind, are you sure it's not the files? i just updated to the same revision and i don't see these symptoms. 19.36.46 Quit mcuelenaere () 19.37.28 # <]RowaN[> thanks krazykit but i dont think theres a irc search function, without manually trauling through day by day 19.37.46 Quit barrywardell () 19.37.59 # <]RowaN[> next question, how can i reopen a bug that has resurfaced (wps bug)? i cant seem to find any entity for my old bug report, closed or otherwise 19.38.07 # it's the the files...i got the cradle figured out, it's the headphone jack on the player 19.38.14 # audio is fine through the cradle 19.38.17 # great 19.38.29 # i suspected it was that as soon as I tried the other set of headphones 19.38.33 # ]RowaN[, there is such a function. i think it's just google search site:rockbox.org/irc searchstring 19.39.13 # <]RowaN[> oh, neat 19.39.26 # *it wasn't the files 19.40.18 Join nsfx [0] (n=psi@pool-96-242-44-59.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net) 19.41.19 # Nico_P: for the S do you need to use mknboot or just use the nk.bin created by the make ? 19.41.46 # toffe82: either. it depends on whether or not you want dual boot 19.41.56 # ok 19.42.08 # according to the wiki just the nk.bin if you don't want to dual boot 19.42.14 # i recently upgraded rockbox to the latest build and now the screen seems to flicker.. this is on an iriver 120 19.42.16 # the rockbox-only nk.bin will load much faster 19.42.22 # any idea why this would happen? 19.43.06 # ~300KB vs. ~13MB 19.43.08 # ;-) 19.44.55 Quit cbr|w ("!") 19.45.02 # * DerPapst previews changes 19.45.38 # I got an error on the sendfirm but the player received the file 19.46.02 # that's normal because the player shuts down early 19.46.11 Join hannesd [0] (n=light@p5B160F61.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 19.46.12 # it makes libtmtp belive there was a problem 19.47.38 # * Nico_P is still hesitant as to whether he'll try to write a windows version of sendfirm 19.50.00 # somebody tried to load the file from within the vmware machine ? 19.50.12 # I think jhMikeS did 19.50.55 # do I have to mount the player, it is connected but doesn't show up 19.51.12 # under linux? 19.51.48 # yes 19.52.22 # you need to alter the partition table a bit for the partitions to show up correctly 19.52.31 # ok 19.52.42 # is it an S30 or an S60? 19.54.46 # toffe82: just run fdisk on it. 19.54.48 # toffe82: fdisk: a 1 a 2 w 19.54.59 # going to windows :) 19.55.05 # scary 19.55.23 Join bertrik [0] (n=bertrik@162-023-045-062.dynamic.caiway.nl) 19.55.32 Join DerPapst_ [0] (n=Der@p5B23F80A.dip.t-dialin.net) 19.55.34 Quit DerPapst (Nick collision from services.) 19.55.36 Nick DerPapst_ is now known as DerPapst (n=Der@p5B23F80A.dip.t-dialin.net) 19.55.57 # yay, editied my first rockbox wiki page :-P 19.56.11 # DerPapst: Congrats! 19.56.23 # ;-) 19.56.38 # was a long time ago... i created the RockboxSync page on wiki 19.57.21 # still.... i want to know how i can test if a i2c driver is working..... is there a way to se that in debug screen ? 19.57.28 # TWiki is not very userfriendly.. 19.57.39 # it's not so hard to understand 19.58.07 # if you are used to mediawiki it's a pretty bad experience imo 19.58.14 # hehhee 19.58.34 # however i hope i didn't mess up :-P 19.58.57 # :) 19.59.04 # DerPapst: nice. the page is clearer now :) 20.00.09 Quit TMM (Client Quit) 20.00.28 # * petur wonders about the change to http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/DevConEuro2008 by kugel... did I miss something again? :/ 20.01.52 # crystalball magic? 20.02.07 # * gevaerts is confused too 20.02.37 # did he just edit the wrong line there? 20.03.15 # he isn't even near bagder 20.03.51 # it's possible though. I do remember him saying he couldn't attend on the 27-29 20.04.03 # Bagder? 20.04.08 # no, kugel 20.04.11 # ah 20.04.23 Nick fxb__ is now known as fxb (n=felixbru@h1252615.stratoserver.net) 20.04.30 # * DerPapst wonders if he should add himself just because he owns a missing target 20.04.59 # http://www.rockbox.org/mail/archive/rockbox-dev-archive-2008-04/0073.shtml 20.05.44 # so bagder is getting kugels abitur this day? :-P 20.05.51 # we could always move to the next weekend (5-6 july) if that is still ok for amiconn and everybody else... 20.06.06 Quit A-4 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 20.06.09 # I transfer the file via windows and now the bootloader says me no partition ?? 20.06.23 # which bootloader? 20.06.49 # rockbox 20.07.01 # strange 20.07.06 # v 00007 20.07.52 # I had 2 partition showing on windows, I transfer the rockbox file and restart and now I have this 20.09.30 # I really don't know what could be going on here, sorry 20.09.30 Join mib_t5qk1i [0] (i=47cbac3a@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-3966488727fcf398) 20.09.39 # * Nico_P has to leave 20.10.16 # toffe82: mbr broken? 20.10.17 # uh-oh, I get an error when I try to uninstall rockbox bootloader using rockbox utility (can't find the original firmware). I did not delete the GBSYSTEM folder. 20.11.01 # now it doesn't show up the no partition, but I have pb with the usb , I have to reboot my computer I think 20.11.43 Quit jcollie (leguin.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 20.11.43 NSplit leguin.freenode.net irc.freenode.net 20.11.57 # toffe82: try connecting again. There is an occasional problem with the first connection 20.13.43 NHeal leguin.freenode.net irc.freenode.net 20.13.43 NJoin jcollie [0] (n=jcollie_@dsl-ppp239.isunet.net) 20.17.36 Join phinze [0] (n=phinze@pcp027324pcs.jesres.mu.edu) 20.18.32 # I have a problem with the battery, I let it charge and try later 20.20.06 # * gevaerts wants to know why this driver works with hubs for imx32 but not for pp502x 20.20.33 Part nsfx 20.21.04 # gevaerts: was the latest SVN tried with hubs? 20.21.20 # jhMikeS: I tried it on PP 20.21.45 Join TaylorKillian [0] (n=Administ@wl198118.wright.edu) 20.22.39 # jhMikeS: I do think that a longer test is required for imx31 though 20.23.01 # specify "longer test"? 20.23.32 # I usually test on pp by copying about 2GB with dd 20.24.08 # then what? 20.24.09 # my c250 "works" with a hub, but gets resets now and then. My ipod video doesn't work 20.24.24 # compare files? 20.25.14 # No. I haven't actually seen any data corruption over usb, just very unstable connections. If it copies 2GB without any usb resets, I think it's fine 20.25.51 # so watch the logf while doing it? 20.26.12 # That's one way. The other way is to use linux and check the dmesg output 20.26.39 # where do you copy the rockbox.tar ? the same partition as the nk.bin ? 20.26.41 # I'm using emulation for that though 20.26.49 # toffe82: no, the 2nd one 20.27.20 # The third way would be to compare speeds with and without the hub. If they are more or less the same, it's probably fine 20.27.48 # oh no! I used toshiba's gbformat to format my gigabeat f40, but the bootloader is still the rockbox bootloader....how do I manually remove the rockbox bootloader? The rockbox utility refuses to do it 20.28.02 # On linux, with my c250 average speed is 4.2 MB/s without a hub, and about 1MB/s with a hub 20.28.05 # jhMikeS: I tried but it doesn't do any thing ?? 20.28.33 # /content/0b00/00 20.28.54 # I just extract zips to it now though 20.29.30 # ok 20.29.48 Quit webguest19 ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)") 20.29.59 Join TMM [0] (n=hp@c514753fe.cable.wanadoo.nl) 20.32.17 # gevaerts: enabling logf in the drv is enough (iow no "usb bus_reset" should be seen)? 20.32.44 Part toffe82 20.33.03 Nick Bagder_ is now known as Bagder (n=daniel@1-1-5-26a.hud.sth.bostream.se) 20.33.31 # jhMikeS: yes, except right at the start where two are expected during connect and enumeration 20.36.18 # has to be one solid 2gb file or is a bunch of flacs enough? 20.37.08 # * jhMikeS can copy the rockbox VM over to it :) 20.37.12 # a bunch of files should be fine 20.37.33 Join toffe82 [0] (n=chatzill@adsl-75-12-168-253.dsl.frs2ca.sbcglobal.net) 20.40.15 # gevaerts, do you know how to test if an i2c driver works 20.40.26 # w1ll14m: no 20.40.30 # * gevaerts only knows usb 20.40.54 # gevaerts, damn i'm playing around with a little i2c... but i don't know much about testing it in rockbox 20.41.10 Join Zagor [242] (n=bjst@46.35.227.87.static.tab.siw.siwnet.net) 20.41.44 # gevaerts, do you know who knows about i2c drivers ? 20.42.34 # * gevaerts is pretty new to the project and doesn't know that sort of thing yet 20.42.41 # aha 20.43.03 # i'm not new to the project, i did some pp502x speedhacks.... 20.43.24 # i let my ipod run at 100.8 Mhz, but i don't know how i2c is used in rockbox 20.44.26 # things get messed up if watching connections from a screen that doesn't allow the USB screen (like logf) 20.44.48 Join saratoga [0] (n=9803c50e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-d1cbfd155d54b734) 20.45.35 # Maybe just dump logf to a file after the connection ? 20.45.48 # is there someway to do a Load Multiple in ARM using half words (16 bits)? 20.46.01 Join m0f0x [0] (n=m0f0x@189-47-52-154.dsl.telesp.net.br) 20.46.25 Join mib_8x8q8l [0] (i=47cbac3a@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-581e021699f6b5bf) 20.46.51 # wow, this is sad. I can't remove the rockbox bootloader so I can ship my player back. 20.47.21 # There is no fwimg01.dat.orig (thanks rockbox utility), and the GBSYSTEM files that come with the gigabeat room software don't remove the rockbox utility either. 20.47.27 # mib_8x8q81, which player do you have ? 20.47.34 # toshiba gigabeat f40. 20.47.37 # ahhh 20.47.37 # gevaerts: that's what I'm doing. this things copying pretty darned quick though. 20.47.52 # mib_8x8q81, have you tried a emergencyrepair ? 20.48.03 # I can access usb mode fine. 20.48.21 # Where are those instructions though? 20.48.40 # hmmm i'm pretty new to the gigabeat scene, just got my gigabeat today 20.48.42 # gigabeat s 20.48.43 Join bluebrother^ [0] (n=Dom@f053154094.adsl.alicedsl.de) 20.48.48 # where are you going to ship a Gigabeat back to? 20.49.05 # I was hoping the gbformat would make it go back to factory default, but it didn't. it just erased the drive (fine), but not the rockbox bootloader. 20.49.12 # I bought it on ebay earlier this week. 20.49.31 # which one is the default os ? 20.49.35 # rockbox or retail ? 20.49.40 # rockbox has been. 20.49.58 # hmm ... 20.50.04 # i don't think you can dual boot the Gigabeat F 20.50.15 # that's fine. 20.50.21 # I only want to single boot the original firmware now. 20.50.41 # Unless there is some kind of comcast world where "no dual-boot" means "impossible to return to original firmware" 20.50.46 # w1ll14m: I think you can test i2c by scanning all addresses and seeing if there's a device that returns an ACK 20.51.45 # w1ll14m: you mentioned emergency repair? 20.52.14 # mib_8x8q8l: if you can access the disk, you can restore the original firmware. I don't know the details, but I'm sure someone can help you 20.52.25 # Help! 20.52.44 Quit bluebrother (Nick collision from services.) 20.52.49 Nick bluebrother^ is now known as bluebrother (n=Dom@rockbox/staff/bluebrother) 20.53.37 Join DerPapst_ [0] (n=Der@p5B23F80A.dip.t-dialin.net) 20.53.39 Quit DerPapst (Nick collision from services.) 20.53.41 Nick DerPapst_ is now known as DerPapst (n=Der@p5B23F80A.dip.t-dialin.net) 20.53.57 # mib_8x8q8l, the details for the emergency repair mode are on the gigabeat f's wiki page 20.56.08 # gevaerts: 2GB copyied at ~4MB/s and gave no bus resets 20.56.15 # I don't see the word emergency anywhere on that page, and the "open it-- Gigabeat Recovery Procedures" aren't applicable because I can access it over USB, my problem is I cannot factory reset it or remove rockbox bootloader. 20.56.18 # bertrik: how to scan all addresses ? 20.56.28 # I just see the two from connect 20.56.46 # krazykit: I assume you mean http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/GigabeatFXPort 20.56.53 # mib_8x8q8l, ah, the open it was the emergency repair. all you need to do is copy over the original system files to the gigabeat. 20.56.55 # jhMikeS: great. Maybe copy in the other direction to make sure ? 20.57.00 # mib_8x8q81: you lost the gbsystem right ? 20.57.09 # No 20.57.11 # It's there. 20.57.20 # but filled with dummy files ? 20.57.54 # There's also a GBSYSTEM i have as part of the gigabeat room software on the PC, but when I copy those files over as in the instruction manual to do a factory reset (toshiba directions), I still get rockbox bootloader and then it turns off. 20.58.16 # I did a gbformat according to the toshiba manual 20.58.17 # mib_8x8q8l, did you copy the system files, then flip the battery switch off and on? 20.58.51 # I can try it again, but I think I did. 20.59.10 # mib_8x8q81: i'm out of ideas as i don't own a gigabeat 20.59.23 # s/gigabeat/gigabeat f/ 21.00.05 # mib_8x8q8l: did you first move the GBSYSTEM on the player out of the way before copying the new one to it ? 21.00.21 Join Gartral [0] (n=Gartral@adsl-75-33-87-18.dsl.bcvloh.sbcglobal.net) 21.00.35 # same thing, rockbox bootloader then it turns off because it can't find rockbox software. 21.00.40 # I overwrote it. 21.00.47 # made backups ? 21.00.54 # of the *original* files ? 21.00.59 # yeah 21.01.03 # w1ll14m: if a device sees it's address on the i2c bus, it acknowledges by pulling low the SDA line after seeing the address, your i2c driver should be able to detect this. For testing purpose you can probably just hack one of the debug screens to iterate over all i2c addresses and do a simple i2c read and show the result. 21.01.05 # those were erased when I did gbformat. 21.01.19 # w1ll14m: do you know the address of one of the devices on the i2c bus you're testing? 21.01.54 # hi all... i made a discovery, theres a neat similarity between ipod 4th gen and sansa.... they use the same adaptor on the usb cable, but the Ipod i have is fryed, would someone please check if the pinout is the same? 21.01.54 Quit denes_ (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 21.02.09 # Gartral, the pinout is different. 21.02.12 Join denes_ [0] (n=denes@pool-1032.adsl.interware.hu) 21.02.20 # bertrik: i have 3 possible options: 0x43f80000, 0x43f98000, 0x43f84000 21.02.26 # ohh... damn 21.02.28 # so it's really not recommended to plug one into the other. 21.02.42 # mib_8x8q8l: try the following : connect, rename gbsystem on the player to something else, then copy the gbsystem from the gigabeat room software to the player, then reset 21.03.52 # w1ll14m: those are possible addresses of the i2c master controller, right? 21.04.07 # yeah 21.04.43 # but do you know the i2c address of a device on the i2c bus? 21.04.44 # bertrik: http://www.pastebin.ca/989809 21.05.08 # bertrik, not really i'm pretty new to this stuff ;) 21.05.12 # anyone want an ipod 20gig hard drive? 21.05.24 # bertrik: so i'm trying to gain some more experiance 21.05.58 # gevaerts: same thing, rockbox bootloader 21.06.22 # Is the bootloader in the GBSYSTEM folder or somewhere else? on the ipod 4g it was on a special partition, it wasn't a file. 21.06.23 # It gets a little hard if you have too many unknowns ... 21.06.45 # Do you know how to talk to the i2c master controller? 21.06.55 # I checked what's on the gigabeat with what the gigaroom GBSYSTEM's folder ships with an the files are all the same (md5 check). 21.07.23 # bertrik: i found on the net that u-boot has some code for imx31 i2c 21.07.23 # Does the rockbox bootloader modify GBSYSTEM? 21.07.24 # (BTW, I've worked with i2c devices, but I am new to reverse-engineering DAPs) 21.07.54 # bertrik, aha :) 21.07.59 # the fact that rockbox utiltiy did not make a backup was real nice 21.08.15 # fw01img.dat.orig not found it just says 21.08.34 # mib_8x8q8l, it may have been installed manually by the previous owner. 21.09.43 # it seemed to be factory defaults when I got it, it was on the gigabeat software and had nothing on it 21.09.58 # mib_8x8q8l: the bootloader does not modify files, and is only in gbsystem 21.10.08 # I used rockbox utiltiy to install, and then rockbox utility failed to uninstall the bootloader 21.10.30 # betrik: here are some files that i found... directly from the git tree of u-boot 21.10.30 # http://www.pastebin.ca/989815 21.10.34 # mib_8x8q8l: if the gigabeat room copy is not correct, then my guess is that it was put there _after_ you installed rockbox 21.10.40 Quit Adys (Remote closed the connection) 21.10.42 # Well then maybe toshiba is lying and those aren't the original firmware files it has in the program files folder, maybe it just copied what was on my player 21.10.46 # w1ll14m: I think I would implement the i2c bus scan and then simply try the three different addresses you mentioned 21.10.57 # oh yes, I installed gigaroom just now to fix it 21.11.11 # gevaerts: still a clean run 21.11.39 Join Adys [0] (n=Adys@unaffiliated/adys) 21.11.50 # w1ll14m: aha, the i2c_probe function looks very useful 21.11.59 # mib_8x8q8l: I think your best bet is to wait a bit and ask again in a few hours if someone has an original fw01img.dat, or maybe ask on the forums 21.12.09 # bertrik: nice, i'm trying to understand that function now 21.12.19 # jhMikeS: great. So now tell me why it doesn't work as well on portalplayer ;) 21.12.53 # gevaerts: why would a bus reset occur (from USB spec perspective) 21.12.53 # argument chip should be a number in the range 0-127 21.13.29 # mib_8x8q8l, i have an original fwimg01.dat, but not the other files if you'd like it 21.14.03 # the thing is I don't know for sure but I don't think the gigabeat room copy was there after I installed the program but before I opened it 21.14.06 # jhMikeS: it'a basically the fallback method of resetting a connection if something goes wrong. In this case I suspect that prime_transfer() sometimes fails 21.14.14 Nick fxb is now known as fxb__ (n=felixbru@h1252615.stratoserver.net) 21.14.27 # Is there a response period? 21.14.28 # krazykit: sure I'll give it a try. 21.14.52 # ...a period after which the controller would think the device isn't responsding? 21.14.59 # mib_8x8q8l, http://biomoose.com/files/FWIMG01.DAT.ORIG 21.15.33 # I assume when I put that on the player that I remoe the .orig right? 21.15.45 # correct. 21.15.51 # jhMikeS: depends. the device has to respond to any request within a number of microseconds (not sure how much exactly), either with data or with a NAK (meaning :no data right now) 21.16.16 Join [CBR]Unspoken|w [0] (n=cbr@212.98.160.130) 21.16.54 # jhMikeS: what I see with a tracer is that sometimes that NAK response suddenly doesn't come any more. If that happens too often, the host resets the bus 21.17.37 # betrik: i'll be playing around a little bit more ;) 21.17.38 # thanx 21.17.41 # hmmm...microseconds you say? without preemptive threads we can't guarantee latencies that would be measure at that magnitude. 21.18.11 # jhMikeS: sure, but the controller handles that. If it doesn't have data yet, it sends a NAK 21.18.41 # ok, so were not in a rush to respond on the SW side. (just ruling this possibility out ) 21.18.41 # * preglow hears preemptive 21.19.02 # * gevaerts sends preglow back to sleep. Nothing interesting :) 21.19.40 # * jhMikeS has some other motivations to implement it (like handling critical system tasks in thread context) 21.19.40 # w1ll14m: good luck. by the way, I would call i2c_init with the lowest possible speed to make sure that bus speed is not a problem 21.20.38 # I think that on the SCSI level, the response times are very long, on the order of seconds or so 21.20.47 # jhMikeS: what I saw in the trace is that the host tries to send a new SCSI command and gets a NAK back. It then switches to PING packets (those basically ask if the device is ready to receive data) and gets NAK back correctly 21.20.50 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 21.21.01 # are -> are allowed to be 21.21.31 # After a while, (20 PINGs or more), it suddenly doesn't get a NAK back any more. After three of those it gives up 21.21.35 # preglow: is there a load multiple instruction on arm that works with 16 bit values instead of 32 bit ones? 21.21.36 # ok, has anything been verified about the registers on PP? 21.22.13 # * gevaerts isn't sure what jhMikeS means 21.22.47 # The PHY setup or whatever else can be configured. 21.23.00 Join auntieNeo [0] (n=rewt@71-209-50-226.bois.qwest.net) 21.23.32 Part auntieNeo 21.23.37 # The thing is that all this only goes wrong if it's connected behind a hub. 21.24.30 # hmmm 21.24.31 # If I use a direct connection, and if I put all USB related data in IRAM, it works perfectly 21.24.38 Join homielowe [0] (n=eric_j_l@d205-250-150-38.bchsia.telus.net) 21.25.10 # * gevaerts unfortunately can't commit the IRAM fixes yet. They are a bit too intrusive right now 21.25.47 # The only thing I can think of is that something isn't serviced quickly enough. 21.26.05 # perhaps adding a hub exacerbates some timing issue 21.26.27 # That's my guess too, but I can't see anything obvious in the trace 21.26.31 # do USB hubs buffer and retransmit packets or are they pure analog? 21.26.41 # the 'beast hardly does anything in ticks and such so interrupt latencies will be very short 21.27.01 # They buffer and retransmit 21.27.40 # * gevaerts isn't entirely sure about that... 21.27.58 # They are allowed to slow down the packet anyway 21.29.01 # why do they talk about EPSETUP_STATUS_EP0 being time critical in the docs? 21.29.19 Part Gartral 21.30.29 # I'm not sure, but there are no setup packets anywhere near the time when the problem occurs 21.30.30 # * jhMikeS thinks to move usb_drv_int to the head of the dispatch routine (worth a try) 21.30.48 # saratoga: nah, the 32 bit ones is all there is 21.31.09 # saratoga: only way is to repack the 16 bit values in 32 bit regs 21.31.44 # preglow: can i do packed multiplies on ARM? i think no, but i'm not sure 21.32.22 # gevaerts: maybe it's still an issue in the way interrupts are handled or the order in which interrupt bits are cleared 21.32.28 Join Rincewind [0] (n=Flubb@i528C31BD.versanet.de) 21.34.02 Join tvelocity_ [0] (n=tony@ppp156-84.adsl.forthnet.gr) 21.34.09 # thank you krazykit...that worked! 21.34.45 Join DerPapst_ [0] (n=Der@p5B23F80A.dip.t-dialin.net) 21.34.47 Quit DerPapst (Nick collision from services.) 21.34.49 Nick DerPapst_ is now known as DerPapst (n=Der@p5B23F80A.dip.t-dialin.net) 21.35.07 # jhMikeS: moving usb_drv_int to the top doesn't change anything 21.35.08 # gevaerts: once you have the IRAM stuff sorted out, would it be possible to enable USB for the ipods at least? 21.35.55 # saratoga: I want to test if the IRAM thing also solves the SD problem on sansa. After that we have to decide how serious the hub issue is 21.35.57 # gevaerts: ok. what exacly went into IRAM 21.36.17 # jhMikeS: td_array, qh_array and the transfer buffers 21.36.41 # hmmm...write buffering effects perhaps 21.37.19 # The issue is that I had to rearrange IRAM. Easy on PP5022, since there are 32k unused, but I don't know how to do this cleanly on PP5020 21.38.08 # you can't just overwrite the codec IRAM? 21.38.36 # * jhMikeS suggests flush_icache in usb_drv_send(_nonblocking) and invalidate_icache in usb_drv_recv (both before prime_transfer) as a control check 21.39.16 # saratoga: not on our arms 21.40.04 Quit tvelocity (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 21.41.07 # hmm, actually, the gigabeast cpu can 21.42.56 Quit mib_8x8q8l ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") 21.43.02 # jhMikeS: doesn't help. Those actually seem to make it worse 21.44.37 Join Pichet_Goulu [0] (n=Pichet_G@158.184-244-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be) 21.44.38 Nick Pichet_Goulu is now known as Pichet (n=Pichet_G@158.184-244-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be) 21.44.45 # hi 21.45.00 # * jhMikeS wants a check with an explicit memory mapping for physical ram 21.45.03 # hmm. The change on the DevConEuro2008 page kugel made clearly should show up after his name, shouldn't it? 21.45.29 # besides, his name appears twice on the list ... 21.46.01 # hi Pichet, have a question? just ask 21.48.34 Quit RoC_MasterMind ("Leaving") 21.48.44 Quit nplus ("Leaving") 21.48.46 # yes i ve got a question , i saw here a "patch for RB" ( http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/8642 ) i ve got a sansa and i want to know how can i "run" this patch ? i updated my bootloader and my .rockbox with rbutilqt and it said that my BL is already up to date ( sorry for my bad english ) 21.49.32 # you can't "run" patches. 21.49.53 # those are changes against the source code, i.e. you need to build Rockbox yourself to use them 21.50.40 # yes, but i have to "compile" my own build or copy new rockbox r17172 ? 21.50.44 # gevaerts: I'll make up a patch if you want to check that. 21.50.55 # jhMikeS: sure 21.52.02 # first I have to make sure it actually doesn't just outright crash like that :) 21.52.46 # Pichet: yes you will have to compile and install your own bootloader. As far as I understand this can be slightly dangerous, so I wouldn't try it if you're not comfortable with compiling. 21.52.58 # * gevaerts would just complain and get on with life in that case :) 21.53.25 # bertrik: thanks for your answer 21.53.32 Join tessarakt [0] (n=jens@e180072059.adsl.alicedsl.de) 21.54.25 Quit Pichet ("ChatZilla 0.9.81 [Firefox 2.0.0.14/2008040413]") 21.54.27 # Pichet: that patch was accepted as part of r17172 21.54.38 Join Pichet_Goulu [0] (n=Pichet_G@158.184-244-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be) 21.54.40 Nick Pichet_Goulu is now known as Pichet (n=Pichet_G@158.184-244-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be) 21.55.04 # saratoga: it's a bootloader patch, so it will be a while longer before you actually get it by default 21.55.10 # o sorry, in that case my answer may not have been applicable 21.55.21 # Pichet: that patch was accepted as part of r17172 21.55.42 # you do not need to apply it, however it will not take effect until you have installed it using sansapatcher as detailed in that task 21.56.07 # it will also disable recovery mode on teh Sansa, which is why it is not enabled by default yet 21.56.20 # saratoga: yes but is it "dangerous" for my sansa ? 21.56.28 # or he can wait until the next release of rbutil that contains this bootloader, right? 21.57.00 # Pichet: depends how comfortable you are with linux and the manufactor modes on the sansa 21.57.26 # Pichet: it's safe in the sense that it will be recoverable, but dangerous in the sense that recovering is not necessarily easy 21.57.40 # saratoga: i think i will wait :p thanks 21.58.07 # eventually we'll get our own USB in the bootloader and it will become much safer 21.59.56 Quit markun (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 22.01.51 Quit m0f0x () 22.01.57 Quit denes_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 22.01.57 # gevaerts: http://jhmikes.cleansoap.org/who-know-what-will-happen.diff 22.02.11 Join denes_ [0] (n=denes@pool-4146.adsl.interware.hu) 22.02.48 # * gevaerts gets nervous from that filename :) 22.03.05 # H10 runs ok with it 22.03.06 Quit hannesd (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 22.04.00 Quit BlakeJohnson86 ("Leaving.") 22.06.42 # no difference 22.07.23 # interesting 22.07.55 Quit Zagor ("Client exiting") 22.08.17 # Does the H10 work properly behind a hub ? 22.09.00 Join barrywardell [0] (n=barrywar@rockbox/developer/barrywardell) 22.09.04 # I have to switch it to not be removeable or the computer with one wants drivers 22.09.05 # bertrik: rbutil doesn't contain the bootloaders, it gets them directly from the download page 22.09.30 # bluebrother: ok, thanks for clearing that up for me 22.10.17 Join markun [50] (n=markun@rockbox/developer/markun) 22.10.27 # I guess we'll know shortly 22.11.21 Join corevette [0] (n=corevett@adsl-75-18-204-217.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) 22.11.48 # bertrik: you're welcome :) 22.12.41 Quit Pichet ("ChatZilla 0.9.81 [Firefox 2.0.0.14/2008040413]") 22.14.12 Join Llorea1 [0] (n=llorean@adsl-70-242-5-141.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net) 22.14.26 Nick Llorea1 is now known as OtherLlor (n=llorean@adsl-70-242-5-141.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net) 22.15.53 Quit Rincewind ("bye") 22.16.45 Quit homielowe () 22.18.18 Quit corevette ("Leaving") 22.19.49 Join spiorf [0] (n=spiorf@host176-218-dynamic.30-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) 22.20.05 # gevaerts: was I supposed to check the 'beast behind a hub in that test? 22.20.15 Quit phinze () 22.20.57 # jhMikeS: yes 22.21.49 # oops...ok, I'll go over to that machine and check H10 and 'beast. 22.24.35 Join pixelma [0] (n=57b9d39b@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 22.25.55 Join corevette [0] (n=corevett@adsl-75-18-204-217.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) 22.26.29 # jhMikeS: UMS is enabled by default in the Gigabeast bootloader, or do I have to define something? 22.27.36 Join phinze [0] (n=phinze@pcp027324pcs.jesres.mu.edu) 22.31.49 # Llorean: As far as i tested i need to enable the rockbox USB stack 22.32.13 # #define USE_ROCKBOX_USB 22.32.13 # #define USE_HIGH_SPEED 22.32.20 # w1ll14m: I KNOW that you normally need to enable it. 22.32.32 # ok, then i've said nothing ;) 22.32.52 # But the commit message is a little strange. 22.33.25 # It doesn't say "UMS for the Gigabeat S port" but specifically for the bootloader, and since it's an unreleased port so far, and the UMS makes it much easier on the developers, I was uncertain if it was perhaps enabled for now for their work. 22.33.51 # Those are already defined in config-gigabeat-s.h 22.34.01 # I just noticed that 22.34.39 # * DerPapst already enjoys gevaerts' and jhMikeS' hard work :-) 22.35.08 # * w1ll14m too 22.35.53 # i'm playing a little with i2c now, i hope i can brew something.... but i'm not very experianced with c 22.35.56 Join gregzx [0] (n=chatzill@dte54.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) 22.45.20 Quit barrywardell () 22.45.21 Quit ompaul (Client Quit) 22.50.48 # how is a splash made with a call to gui_syncsplash finally cleared from the screen? 22.52.20 # jhMikeS: Is there anything special to do to get the UMS-enabled bootloader to work? My S isn't connecting. 22.52.31 # gevaerts: H10 got a couple "no prime" and one reset. Win2k on that machine doesn't like the partitions either apparently. 22.53.14 # Llorean: no though the glitch with first connect makes it difficult to use now. You do see "Waiting for USB" right? 22.53.17 # how do you make a bootloader in vmware? 22.53.41 # jhMikeS: Yes. 22.53.47 # jhMikeS: Glitch with first connect? 22.55.07 # Sometimes the first cold plug 1) doesn't connect at all 2) doesn't connect high speed. It appears hardware related since a misconnect in the bootloader will let a connect in the firmware succeed. 22.55.34 # jhMikeS: I think the "no prime" is actually what causes the problem. If you get three in a row, you get a bus reset 22.55.58 # svn up 22.56.00 # meh 22.57.09 Part mcflow 22.57.30 # jhMikeS: So basically bootloader USB is somewhat unlikely, since it's always "cold"? 22.59.24 # Llorean: It hits for me more often than not 22.59.56 # Hm, I only tried three times, with three failures. 23.02.35 # on the cold connect, the bus resets never happen 23.03.36 # am I correct in assuming that rockbox for the ipod video does not contain an FM Tuner? 23.04.08 # * jhMikeS wonders why he has an S30 with a radio 23.04.15 # Horscht: no 23.04.23 # not even with the radio remote? 23.04.30 # Horscht: the ipod doesn't support something like that 23.04.40 # thus it's not compiled in 23.04.41 # Horscht: We don't have accessory support. 23.04.45 # DerPapst, no as in "no tuner" or as in "no, you're wrong§? 23.04.54 # no tuner 23.05.06 # * Horscht goes crying to his mommy 23.05.16 Join Mouser_lnX [0] (i=cf9bb003@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-df2fef7d37655f67) 23.05.20 # the tuner is in the accessory 23.05.25 # jhMikeS: Is my Gigabeast supposed to show up as two disks? 23.05.34 # Llorean: yes 23.05.37 # Okay 23.05.46 # or actually, as two partitions 23.06.02 # Gotcha 23.06.05 # on windows it gets two drives anyway 23.06.30 # So, when I try "./sendfirm nk.bin" what I get is this: error while loading shared libraries: libmtp.so.6: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory 23.06.36 # What am I missing? 23.06.59 # (I'm on the Linux machine right now, and thus using Mibbit.) 23.06.59 # I think you did it wrong 23.07.31 # oh, nvm (I seemed to remember seeing XP in the logs or something) 23.07.36 # Mouser_lnX: no linux oxpert but i think libmtp is missing 23.07.40 # *expert 23.07.49 # you have to install it 23.08.01 # or compile it yourself 23.08.15 # I thought I did install it... 23.08.23 # It used Synaptic. 23.08.39 Join thgz [0] (n=thgz@dsl-lprgw5-fe5fdc00-169.dhcp.inet.fi) 23.09.06 # jhMikeS: You're right, I've attempted to do this in WinXP, but I've never had success with that. 23.09.19 # Thus, I'm using someone else's Linux laptop. 23.09.58 # It's a PITA but noone I've walked through it has failed to have it work so I'm guessing a step was missed. 23.09.59 # Hi. How about an idea where when moving or copying a file or folder, rockbox could copy or move (depending what the User was selected) the talk file also if it exists. 23.10.06 # If I'm missing libmtp, and I thought I installed it (I could have sworn that's what I installed), how do I verify that I do, or do not, have it? And if I don't have it, how do I get it? 23.10.18 # * DerPapst wonders why matrix,demos is in the wrong position in apps/plugins/CATEGORIES 23.10.26 # Mouser_lnX: ls -l /usr/lib/libmtp* 23.10.56 # thgz: Sounds like a good thing to put on the Feature Request tracker. 23.11.37 # Ok. I've thinking to make a feature request entry for that, but first suggested in IRC. 23.12.05 # It looks like I have libmtp.so.5 installed, and not .so.7. I didn't see any .7 to install. 23.12.06 # gevaerts: in any case I got noprime and bus reset without the hub on H10 at hs 23.12.25 # as well as with the hub...nothing really was different 23.12.36 # jhMikeS: I forgot that the IRAM patches aren't committed yet... 23.12.43 Join pixelma_ [0] (n=pixelma@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 23.12.46 # * gevaerts will work on that tomorrow 23.13.00 Part thgz 23.13.57 # Actually, this sendfirm that Llorean sent me is looking for libmtp.so.6. The one that BigBambi sent me is looking for .7. 23.14.04 # * jhMikeS gets a queazy feeling thinking that just masks some trouble :\ 23.14.25 # Can anyone lead me to a way to install libmtp.so.6 or .7? 23.15.35 # (Or put together a sendfirm that looks for .5?) 23.15.46 Quit pixelma ("webclient") 23.16.27 Nick pixelma_ is now known as pixelma (n=pixelma@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 23.16.33 # Mouser_lnX: I'll try building a statically linked sendfirm 23.17.56 # That'd be appreciated. 23.18.22 # dcc ? 23.18.22 # Mouser_lnX which libmtp.so.? do you have installed on your system ? 23.18.45 # so.5 23.19.16 # gevaerts: I'm on mibbit here. It be best (for me) if you put it up on stashbox.org 23.19.24 # OK 23.19.27 # If you don't like that idea, DCC it to mouser_x 23.19.33 # ln -s /path/to/libmtp.so.5 /path/to/libmtp.so.6 23.19.47 # that might beable to help you 23.20.22 # Mouser_lnX: http://www.evonet.be/~gevaerts/sendfirm 23.20.43 # Thanks. 23.20.52 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 23.21.13 Quit desowin ("KVIrc 4.0.0 Insomnia http://www.kvirc.net/") 23.21.19 Quit spiorf (Remote closed the connection) 23.21.45 Join spiorf [0] (n=spiorf@host176-218-dynamic.30-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) 23.22.56 Join mf0102 [0] (n=michi@85.127.182.34) 23.23.24 # FS#8909 yay! 23.29.02 # DerPapst: I don't get it 23.29.07 # is there a point to the game? 23.29.24 # No. 23.29.37 Join m0f0x [0] (n=m0f0x@189-47-65-205.dsl.telesp.net.br) 23.29.42 # haha, ok.. 23.30.22 # * gevaerts thinks that it's a great minimal game, and that it should be included for that reason 23.30.34 # It's very zen. :-P 23.31.04 # sure there is. if you need more training before playing rockblox this plugin is for you :-) 23.31.20 # :) 23.31.39 Join sitwon [0] (n=adam@pool-71-178-171-19.washdc.fios.verizon.net) 23.32.11 Join BlakeJohnson86 [0] (n=bjohnson@c-24-118-135-22.hsd1.mn.comcast.net) 23.32.41 Quit davina (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 23.32.45 Quit sitwon (Client Quit) 23.33.20 Join davina [0] (n=davina@cpc1-sout6-0-0-cust616.sotn.cable.ntl.com) 23.37.38 # DerPapst: if should really run on the Player too if 2D Rockblox can (http://download.rockbox.org/manual/rockbox-player/rockbox-buildch9.html#x12-1170009.1.4) ;) 23.39.09 # Does anyone actually play that ? 23.39.23 # pixelma: o.O 23.41.05 # gevaerts: I tried at least, not so bad but there is a gap between the characters which is a bit misleading. Fun to see though :) 23.41.27 # So I finally got nk.bin sent to my Gigabeat. The screen has changed, and now there's a progress bar at the bottom. However, it's not moving. 23.42.02 # And only a very tiny little bit seems to have changed color right near the begining of the bar. 23.43.50 # saratoga, thank you for mentioning the temp sensor. I hadn't forgotten about that - but I wasn't honestly sure what would happen in regards to it. I was hopeful I could scare him off the topic ;) 23.44.15 # * gevaerts mentionned explosions. Maybe that will help 23.44.58 # Shouldn't my beast be doing something now? 23.45.46 # it should. but i have nearly no beast experience 23.46.05 Quit m0f0x ("brb") 23.46.07 # How long did it take you to put new firmware on? 23.46.24 # It's been at least 5 minutes since I sent the nk.bin file... 23.46.40 # (And still no progress on the bar.) 23.46.45 Join m0f0x [0] (n=m0f0x@189-47-65-205.dsl.telesp.net.br) 23.46.47 # ~12seconds may 23.46.50 # *max 23.46.59 # it seems like starting the controller, shutting it down, and restarting it gets rid of the 1st connect glitch 23.47.28 # jhMikeS: If that was directed at me, I'm still waiting for the thing to update its firmware. 23.47.51 # well, to all that know what I'm referring to anyway :) 23.47.56 # Should I just turn it off, and hope I didn't brick it? 23.48.28 # jhMikeS: Can that just be done as a step in the bootloader, then? 23.48.29 # is a faulty update bad? or can it be fixed? 23.48.58 # I have no idea. Nor do I know why it's not working. 23.49.25 # Llrorean: maybe or perhaps I can just turn it off, reset it and turn it back on in usb_drv_init 23.49.38 # Mouser_lnX: do you have an ipod video? 23.49.46 # Nope. 23.50.05 Join matsl [0] (n=matsl@1-1-4-2a.mal.sth.bostream.se) 23.50.10 # mmhh. is there an ZIF to IDE converter? 23.50.14 # * DerPapst googles 23.50.26 # However, considering that I've been waiting to fix this since Wednesday, I'm considering buying a ZIF adapter... 23.50.27 # * bluebrother hands jhMikeS a tab button :) 23.50.53 # * Mouser_lnX hates MTP devices with a passion. 23.50.54 # * jhMikeS forgets about the tab thing 23.51.21 # in fact, never uses it (for lack of a developed reflex) 23.51.55 # except on the debian command line where it rules all 23.52.45 # jhMikeS: on PP it enables the controller in usb_init_device() and disables it again immediately 23.52.55 # Mouser_lnX: at least it exists http://www.span.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=8932&c=102&t=side_right1 23.53.20 # jhMikeS: you indent manually? 23.53.37 # Mouser_lnX: however i'd say ask someone with a beast how to restore it incase the "flashing"? went wrong 23.54.48 # bluebrother: I use the tab key and it makes spaces but no auto-indent 23.55.32 # I do that similarly -- but no tab reflex? /me is surprised 23.55.33 # gevaerts: I'm actually talking about putting it in run mode for a brief period and then turning it off 23.55.54 # bluebrother <= tab-completed in IRC client :) 23.56.08 # \o/ 23.56.21 # DerPapst, gevaerts, jhMikeS, Mouser_lnX 23.56.29 # Hmmm? 23.56.29 # jhMikeS 23.56.42 # ^ training :-P 23.56.47 # * jhMikeS is just tab-completing thing :) 23.56.49 # uh-uh, what have I done (caused)? 23.56.51 # +s 23.57.10 # * gevaerts wondered why jhMikeS talks to himseld ;) 23.57.21 # s/seld/self/ 23.58.21 # jhMikeS: It needs that much ? 23.58.54 # * gevaerts thinks that someone needs to go over the iMX31 manual again to check if everything in the USB driver is correct 23.59.00 # gevaerts: it's completely disabled by default and cold. retailos doesn't do anything with it before rb.