--- Log for 24.04.108 Server: leguin.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 22 days and 18 hours ago 00.00.12 Join Thundercloud [0] (n=thunderc@resnet09.nat.lancs.ac.uk) 00.01.31 Quit davina ("GNU/Linux the free alternative to Windows") 00.02.03 Join cbr|w [0] (n=cbr@212.98.160.130) 00.04.39 Join Rincewind [0] (i=6bscqnci@nat-wh-1.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de) 00.05.12 Quit Rince_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00.05.44 Join Mouser_X [0] (n=mouser_x@layl001.digis.net) 00.06.31 # much better now :) 00.13.59 Quit Rincewind ("bye") 00.15.46 Quit DerDome ("Leaving.") 00.18.32 Quit CyBergRind|w (Success) 00.26.23 Quit amiconn (Nick collision from services.) 00.26.30 Join amiconn [50] (n=jens@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 00.32.46 # I was wondering, if the driver generates one (1) BUTTON_SCROLL_UP or BUTTON_SCROLL_DOWN event, does that scroll one item up/down? 00.33.30 # * pixelma wonders if she should prepare the new flashlight plugin for the Ondio backlight mod (officially) 00.34.03 Quit ompaul (Client Quit) 00.34.10 # doesn't hurt probably 00.34.21 # go ahead ;) 00.35.13 # * petur wonders where his BUTTON_SCROLL events are going to :( 00.35.22 # it's only compiled in with HAVE_BACKLIGHT so it would only be another keymap definition 00.35.24 # * BigBambi quietly (and non-too seriously) grumbles about Rockbox using British English and a flashlight being called a torch in that, 00.36.35 # one possible addition could be to save the last used color 00.37.03 # * amiconn wonders why sansa recording doesn't offer agc 00.37.10 Quit freqmod_n (Remote closed the connection) 00.37.25 # * petur will use this plugin a lot next winter to find the lock on his bike 00.37.48 # amiconn: gain steps too big? 00.38.06 # 1.5 dB ... 00.38.24 # a bit big, yes 00.38.42 # I'd think that's ok 00.38.43 # guess no-one bothered because you can't do high quality recording with it anyways? 00.39.08 # Well, I'd never use agc for high quality stuff anyway, however, for voice it would be useful 00.39.18 # should we enable it for all targets with rec gain settings (except the silly 0/20db) 00.39.48 # * petur uses AGC_SAFETY for all his concert recordings and highly recommends it 00.40.22 # * amiconn doesn't record concerts 00.41.12 # I'd expect the built-in mic to produce complete crap at usual concert volume levels 00.42.45 # * bluebrother rearranges the bl installer uml 00.45.09 # * pixelma missed that the keymap definitions are only for targets with colour display 00.45.40 # ah yes indeed they are, sorry 00.46.06 Quit OlivierBorowski (Remote closed the connection) 00.46.25 # so no problem here, sorry for the confusion :) 00.46.25 Join Shaid [0] (n=adam@dsl-202-45-112-116-static.VIC.netspace.net.au) 00.46.30 Quit knittl (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00.46.53 # petur: There are certainly a few things missing for non-colour (and partially also colour) targets in flashlight.c 00.47.16 # brightness setting? 00.47.28 # For greyscale, it should also temporarily remove a backdrop and set the background to white 00.47.51 # * bluebrother wonders if we could force all people adding new plugins also writing a new manual entry 00.48.00 # but I guess that's impossible 00.48.06 # bluebrother: good idea 00.48.07 # It should probably also check the display inversion setting, and disable it, except for m:robe 100, where it should enable it 00.48.26 # bluebrother: would be nice at least 00.48.37 # Yes, and set brightness to maximum where available 00.48.46 # yep. 00.48.47 Join Leperkawn [0] (n=chatzill@68-188-192-35.dhcp.mrqt.mi.charter.com) 00.48.52 # amiconn: brightness is already set to max 00.48.59 # ah ok 00.49.12 # I was thinking of having buttons inc/dec it 00.49.16 # improve the torch by allowing to set the brightness? 00.49.27 # yes 00.49.32 # * bluebrother too slow at this time of day :o 00.49.42 # * petur just woke up 00.49.58 # wow ... what timezone you're in? 00.50.07 # gmt+2 00.50.08 # petur: But that doesn't help if e.g. the m:robe's lcd is black (because it's normally black - either we need to fill the whole lcd, or use the invert setting to make it "white" (i.e. red)) 00.50.22 # amiconn: yes 00.50.27 # I'll have a lok 00.50.31 # *look 00.50.55 # * amiconn should start woring on screenshot/sim lcd colour unification 00.50.58 # *working 00.51.12 # This will include simulation of 'invert' 00.51.25 # bluebrother: I'm usually more awake at night then during the day, even if I have a normal daytime job... 00.51.25 # petur: I thought so, but I'm in the same TZ :o 00.52.13 # you need to tell me how to manage a daytime job and still having energy hacking at nights ;-) 00.53.17 # sleep from time to time ;) 00.53.42 # at work? Wouldn't work. 00.54.28 # I have somebody here at home who drags me to bed on some nights ;) 00.54.55 # more like kicking really 00.55.06 # hehe ... maybe I'd need somebody for this? 00.55.45 # get married 00.56.21 # I think "find a girl" comes first. And that's quite a heavy task ... 00.56.59 # I've heard they bite 00.57.11 # ouch. 00.57.17 Part perrikwp 00.57.18 # true 00.57.21 # -holds up wrist with bitemark- 00.57.27 Join perrikwp [0] (i=98216d18@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-8eb6188db56f2a20) 00.57.52 # * gevaerts decides to be careful 00.58.01 Quit desowin ("KVIrc 4.0.0 Insomnia http://www.kvirc.net/") 00.59.03 # amiconn: greyscale is for LCD_DEPTH > 1, right? then the plugin already clears backdrop and sets white background for those 00.59.41 # * bluebrother decides to go for sleep now (even without someone kicking) 00.59.52 # * petur kicks anyway 00.59.59 # * Hillshum kicks too 01.00.13 Quit bluebrother ("nite guys, I feel kicked :)") 01.00.19 Quit ender` (" error compiling committee.c: too many arguments to function") 01.00.41 # always nice when ender leaves... 01.00.42 Join cendres [0] (n=ashes@modemcable123.78-80-70.mc.videotron.ca) 01.00.44 # petur: hmrm, missed that... 01.01.21 # I'll add the invert though, good find... 01.01.21 # petur: Is 'Whilte' a colour? ;) 01.01.22 Quit herrwaldo ("Konversation terminated!") 01.01.56 # (aka typo in line 170) 01.02.36 # * amiconn spots completely unnecessary usage of 'float' :( 01.02.39 Join csc` [0] (n=csc@archlinux/user/csc) 01.02.46 # * petur can't be bothered to check the patches in the tracker to find out who made the typo 01.02.49 Quit stripwax ("Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org") 01.03.23 # amiconn: yes 01.05.16 Quit ashes (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 01.05.58 # Imho that should have been a commit blocker... 01.06.32 # really? 01.06.35 # yes 01.07.17 # Using 'float' on an embedded system without fpu needs *very* good reasoning, imho (e.g. a calculator needs it, obviously) 01.07.48 # it will get fixed faster once committed then if it sits and rots in the tracker 01.08.05 # and being a plugin I thought this was ok to do later 01.08.07 # Although it's not performance critical here, using float bloats the binary 01.08.39 # I wouldn't have committed it if it were in the core 01.08.45 Join ashes [0] (n=ashes@modemcable123.78-80-70.mc.videotron.ca) 01.09.28 # Well, large plugins are also not nice. They all add up in the .zip, for instance 01.10.09 # as long as the intent is to fix it, i don't see a problem with commiting it 01.10.11 # Another reason is that others often use existing plugins as examples 01.10.40 # * petur adds a TO DO comment 01.10.51 # strictly for plugins, of course, floats should never happen in the core 01.12.06 # They also shouldn't appear in plugins except where strictly necessary, imho, e.g. becaus eof the example effect 01.12.44 # ok ok... it's a work in progress, calm down 01.13.36 # * amiconn often reacts like this as he knows that 'intermediate' solutions tend to stay way longer than planned :/ 01.14.16 # Not a rockbox specific phenomenon... 01.16.34 Join cendres_ [0] (n=ashes@modemcable123.78-80-70.mc.videotron.ca) 01.16.38 # Check flashlight.rock size for H300, and compare e.g. to dict.rock and stats.rock (which are of similar complexity...) 01.16.59 # speaking of something rotting in the tracker... (though I had one added comment yesterday, thanks BigBambi :) ) 01.16.59 # yeeeees I got the point 01.18.26 Quit cendres_ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 01.18.45 Join cendres_ [0] (n=ashes@modemcable123.78-80-70.mc.videotron.ca) 01.19.40 Quit cendres (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 01.20.12 Quit cendres_ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 01.20.27 Join cendres [0] (n=ashes@modemcable123.78-80-70.mc.videotron.ca) 01.21.15 # I'd welcome if some more people with c200s could try out FS#8824 and comment on (would be thankful for new ideas, regarding some unsolved issues and inconsistencies) 01.23.11 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 01.27.10 # * gevaerts can't really try this out now. 01.28.01 # I use my c250 mostly for usb testing these days, which means I can't keep files on it for a long time, which means I don't use it for playing... 01.28.45 # * amiconn now realises what he forgot 01.29.03 Quit ashes (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 01.29.04 # Should have built with usb support for my c240 01.29.29 # heh, and you asked yesterday about "all the forgetting" :P 01.29.57 # This was the first build for my own c200... 01.30.43 # * gevaerts is curious how the c240 wil behave with this torture device amiconn calls a hub 01.30.56 # Well, you said NEC is ok 01.31.04 # Did you find a similar hub? 01.31.33 # I have two at work with the same VID/PID 01.31.49 Quit tvelocity (Remote closed the connection) 01.32.27 # They don't seem to cause problems with my c250. I havne't tried my ipod yet (will try tomorrow) 01.33.20 Join jerichokb [0] (n=josh@82-45-217-98.cable.ubr05.dals.blueyonder.co.uk) 01.33.39 # But there are still issues : USB is supposed to work with a device behind 5 hubs. I got lots of resets with ony 3 (but it still worked). I forgot to test that with the OF though 01.34.04 # * gevaerts packs his ipod and his c250 so he can test a bit more tomorrow 01.34.12 # hi guys, i think i've got myself into a bit of a muddle with my ipod nano 01.34.20 # Sometimes usb seems to behave a bit strange if you even try to get near the allowed cable lengths 01.34.41 # rockbox seems to think i've got every song on my ipod 4 times over 01.35.02 # gevaerts: but USB won't power all 5 hubs, they need their own 01.35.08 Quit vedlith (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 01.35.18 # I know of the following setup: (root hub) -- 4.5m -- (repeater) -- 5.0m -- (4-port hub) -- 2 printers 01.35.48 # Hillshum: of course. Finding enough power sockets is the biggest challenge for those tests ;) 01.35.54 # Sometimes the PC just doesn't want to communicate with either printer. Unplugging and replugging the whole setup (at the root hub) makes it work again 01.36.15 Join Seldaek [0] (n=seld@crom.seld.ch) 01.36.20 # my database info looks like this: initialised: Yes , DB Ready: No , RAM Cache: No , RAM: 0/0 B , Progress: -1% (4497 entries), Curfile: --- , Commit Step: 0 , Commit Delayed : no 01.36.59 Join saratoga [0] (n=9803c6dd@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-63196876653dcbbe) 01.37.05 # jerichokb: did you try a complete "initialize now" or just updated? 01.37.29 # howdy, my iHP120's HDD just died on me after a few years of good service.. any idea what's the closest match to that in the new stuff ? the iAudio X5's I think are pretty similar (although newer/better), but I'm not sure about the rest.. 01.38.05 # * amiconn thinks the H120 is better than the iaudios (except in size) 01.38.06 # bah, the mrobe-100 sim doesn't simulate lcd invert 01.38.39 # petur: Check 50 minutes back in the log... 01.38.46 # Seldaek: you could replace the HD 01.38.50 # i initilised it the first time, then ran into problems when i tried putting more files on/taking some off. i've tried both initialize now and update now, and have had the 'committing database' msg a few times, but nothing changes 01.38.53 # amiconn: well I was really happy with it.. I just want an music player that can run rockbox well enough with 20-40gigs. 01.39.01 Join saratoga2 [0] (n=9803c6dd@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-4114f88622f7466c) 01.39.27 # amiconn: sorry, completely missed that 01.39.44 # gevaerts: yeah I guess, but even then, the jacks were a bit fucked up (only the optical out still working without shortcircuits) 01.39.53 # Seldaek: just for playing ? If you don't need recording or a radio, lots of people seem to be happy with a gigabeat F 01.40.00 # jerichokb: I'd probably try deleting the database files (all the *.tcd files in the .rockbox folder and the initialise again) 01.40.00 Quit cendres (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 01.40.10 # ok, will try that - thanks. 01.40.18 # gevaerts: I'll definitely try and open it and smash the hard disk a bit before buying anything new though 01.41.13 # gevaerts: gigabeat F.. thanks, I'll have a look, I don't need recording indeed, just mp3 playback and opened USB-disk capability (not like those Sony crap if you see what I mean) 01.41.28 # * Hillshum loves smashing stuff 01.41.45 # see www.smashmyipod.com 01.42.01 Quit saratoga ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)") 01.42.09 # well I meant smash it gently see if it helps to repair it :P 01.42.18 # Of course, you can try to find another H120. There's currently a seller on ebay who has lots of them new in box 01.42.31 # US? 01.42.44 # Yes 01.42.59 # that's not good :) 01.43.03 # * gevaerts ordered one. Luckily he ships everywhere 01.43.32 # wow $150 01.44.02 # * amiconn wonders why the sansa's internal flash and card slot disappear & reappear several times in windows when using rockbox usb 01.44.48 # gevaerts: c240 has the same problem as the mini when connected to the hub 01.44.53 # Seldaek: lots of people seem to like the H120 01.45.13 # yeah it's strong and nice imo 01.45.31 # unfortunately that keeps prices high 01.45.38 # I know some people that have gone through 2-4ipods during my h120's life 01.46.08 # oh well my "wow $150" was not meant that way:) I think it's pretty cheap compared to what I paid for mine 01.46.42 # amiconn: I'll try to look into those TXFILLTUNING options tomorrow. 01.46.44 # pixelma: building database, but it seems to be going a lot slower than the first time i did it. is this a bad sign or am i just being paranoid and impatient? 01.46.58 # Seldaek: gigabeat F is much cheaper (but probably not as solid) 01.47.03 # I'd need some US guy to ship it for me as a gift though, but thanks for the pointer gevaerts, I'll definitely consider it.. 01.47.07 Quit EspeonEefi ("さよなら") 01.47.23 # So it looks like a PP5020 vs. PP5022 problem to me 01.47.38 # gevaerts: What ipod do you have, again? 01.47.46 # video 5G 01.48.09 # * gevaerts needs a PP5020 device 01.48.11 # Hmm, so that's effectively also PP5022 01.48.41 # PP5020 is the one that works on my hub, btw 01.49.45 Join Leperkawn_ [0] (n=chatzill@68-188-192-35.dhcp.mrqt.mi.charter.com) 01.50.44 # Do you happen to have more hubs around ? I'd like to know how PP5020 behaves if you use more than one 01.51.16 # jerichokb: it's a full rebuild so it sure takes longer than an "update now", don't know about the initialising. You didn't delete the database.ignore file in there too by chance? 01.51.48 # pixelma: nope, pretty sure just *.tcd 01.51.55 Join Chronon [0] (i=vircuser@d23-104.uoregon.edu) 01.51.59 # could be a reason why it takes longer, otherwise it doesn't do harm. Ok 01.52.13 # cheers :) 01.52.48 # gevaerts: No, I only have this one hi-speed hub. It's this one, btw: http://www.transcend.de/Support/DLCenter/index.asp?LangNo=20&ItemID=TS0MHUB4EU&axn=SRH1_RLT&DLKeyWd=hub 01.53.27 # There's an unpowered usb1.1 hub built into my monitor though... 01.53.42 Join eluria [0] (n=wouter@70-152.surfsnel.dsl.internl.net) 01.53.53 # 1.1 won't tell us much 01.54.23 # * gevaerts also has only one hub at home. Luckily at work there are boxes of them 01.55.04 # hi, i'm wondering if there is a place where i can check how portage to 2nd gen nano's is going? 01.55.24 # eluria, there's a thread in the New Ports forum, but nothing's happenening. 01.55.39 # ok thanks 01.55.48 # so you don't reckon there will be one any time soon? 01.55.56 # not unless someone works on it 01.56.03 Join perrikwp|work [0] (i=98214a13@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-f0ff1fe034888a90) 01.56.19 # i have no idea how complex the code is but i might be interested 01.57.09 # are there really big obstacles to overcome for that particular port or just many small issues? 01.57.12 # the code isnt quite the issue 01.57.33 # undocumented hardware and encrypted firmware spring to mind as obstacles. 01.57.52 # ahh how nice ;) a real challenge then 01.59.23 Join ashes [0] (n=ashes@modemcable123.78-80-70.mc.videotron.ca) 01.59.25 # does the firmware use symmetric or asymmetric encription? 02.00.42 Quit gevaerts ("sleeping is boring, but doing without it isn't easy") 02.02.57 # Afaik nothing is known apart from the fact that the firmware is encrypted 02.05.15 Quit Leperkawn (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 02.05.18 # * amiconn ->sleep(HZ*21600); 02.09.02 Quit Hillshum ("ChatZilla 0.9.81 [Firefox 2.0.0.14/2008040413]") 02.10.32 # jerichokb: is it still initialising? 02.11.03 # pixelma: yes, only at 64...i'm pretty sure there's around 400 tracks on there 02.11.29 # that doesn't sound right 02.12.15 Nick fxb is now known as fxb__ (n=felixbru@h1252615.stratoserver.net) 02.14.48 # bah 02.15.20 # jerichokb: I only have 2 ideas what could be wrong. Sometimes it's choking on bad tags of some files (e.g. too large) - or together with the fact that you had a few entries before for each song it could also be filesystem errors. 02.16.02 # has anyone dumped the firmware from the ipod classics and nanos? 02.17.05 # pixelma: hmm, bad tags doesn't sound likely as it was coping fine with much the same songs. 02.17.37 Join webguest96 [0] (n=4463d237@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-4f8463406ab54d07) 02.18.01 Join jhulst [0] (n=jhulst@unaffiliated/jhulst) 02.18.48 Join e280R_Man [0] (n=426172e7@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-1d3bbb1c48fb8edb) 02.19.36 Quit webguest96 (Client Quit) 02.19.40 Join webguest02 [0] (n=4463d237@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-68a72fdfde656cb2) 02.20.19 # jerichokb: you could check the filesystem for errors (chkdsk on windows, don't know what tools are there on linux etc.). Hope someone else could help you as I need to get some sleep too 02.20.41 Join cool_walking_ [0] (n=notroot@203-59-129-195.perm.iinet.net.au) 02.20.56 Quit webguest02 (Client Quit) 02.21.15 # pixelma: cheers for your help so far (fsck on linux, iirc) 02.21.23 # yeah, fsck 02.21.25 Join linuxstb [0] (n=linuxstb@rockbox/developer/linuxstb) 02.22.05 # ok, good luck 02.22.10 # thanks! 02.22.21 Part pixelma 02.26.06 Quit Thundercloud (Remote closed the connection) 02.34.01 # * petur got the proof that fixing something quickly ends up taking more time :( 02.38.32 Quit petur ("all is green again... Zzzzzz") 02.38.45 Part Chronon 02.41.19 Nick Leperkawn_ is now known as Leperkawn (n=chatzill@68-188-192-35.dhcp.mrqt.mi.charter.com) 02.42.47 Quit e280R_Man ("CGI:IRC") 02.42.58 Quit ctaylorr (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 02.46.16 Quit perrikwp|work ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") 02.47.26 Join simonrvn [0] (i=simon@unaffiliated/simonrvn) 02.49.42 Quit saratoga2 ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 02.55.45 # Oh yeah, I have the inductive proof to that lying around here somewhere 03.15.28 Join midkay_ [0] (n=midkay@71-35-98-10.tukw.qwest.net) 03.23.16 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 03.25.26 Join ctaylorr [0] (n=ctaylorr@bas1-toronto43-1279529172.dsl.bell.ca) 03.25.42 Quit Nico_P (Remote closed the connection) 03.30.18 Quit Lucifer_pen ("Core dumped!") 03.32.03 Quit midkay (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 03.39.27 Quit scorche (" rawr...that is all...rawr") 03.44.54 Quit Leperkawn ("ChatZilla 0.9.81 [Firefox 2.0.0.14/2008040413]") 03.47.21 Join EspeonEefi [0] (i=espeonee@CERULEANCITY.MIT.EDU) 03.51.22 Quit jhulst ("Konversation terminated!") 03.51.28 Quit ctaylorr (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 03.52.10 Join RunningUtes [0] (n=Michael@65-103-93-47.sxcy.qwest.net) 03.52.53 Part RunningUtes 03.53.40 Join DerPapst [0] (n=Der@p5B23E1C5.dip.t-dialin.net) 03.58.01 Join webguest57 [0] (n=403e8a66@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-a11c948b7249f664) 03.58.01 Quit leox (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 03.58.25 Quit webguest57 (Client Quit) 03.58.45 Join webguest45 [0] (n=403e8a66@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-ed91675b8a696330) 03.58.55 Quit webguest45 (Client Quit) 04.02.16 Join scorche [50] (n=scorche@rockbox/administrator/scorche) 04.12.03 Join m0f0x [0] (n=m0f0x@189-47-7-105.dsl.telesp.net.br) 04.16.02 Join leox [0] (n=leox@165-162-114-200.fibertel.com.ar) 04.20.25 Join Rob2223 [0] (n=Miranda@p4FDCD95F.dip.t-dialin.net) 04.20.27 Quit amiconn (Nick collision from services.) 04.20.34 Join amiconn [50] (n=jens@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 04.28.26 Quit perrikwp ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") 04.33.11 Join goffa_ [0] (n=goffa@216.220.23.105) 04.39.07 Quit Rob2222 (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 04.43.55 Join jhulst [0] (n=jhulst@unaffiliated/jhulst) 04.44.24 Quit m0f0x () 04.47.51 Quit goffa (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 04.53.50 Join perrikwp [0] (i=98216d18@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-fcd2eec9c253cb54) 04.53.55 Join miepchen^schlaf_ [0] (n=miepchen@p54BF7CAE.dip.t-dialin.net) 04.56.57 Join tedrock [0] (n=tedrock@d235-144-17.home1.cgocable.net) 05.00.15 Nick midkay_ is now known as midkay (n=midkay@71-35-98-10.tukw.qwest.net) 05.00.53 Quit miepchen^schlaf (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 05.10.09 Quit Horscht (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 05.13.43 Join Horscht [0] (n=Horscht@xbmc/user/horscht) 05.23.20 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 05.37.22 Join cendres [0] (n=ashes@modemcable123.78-80-70.mc.videotron.ca) 05.39.42 Join toffe82 [0] (n=chatzill@189.164.244.99) 05.44.41 Quit DerPapst (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 05.47.24 Quit ashes (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 05.50.31 Quit Horscht ("Snak 5.3.3 Unregistered copy. 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I hacked together a fixed point version in 10 minutes 09.07.03 # Need to test compile 09.07.59 # amiconn: yes, I was about to, but I didn't really like the operation so I killed it anyway. White and red is (imho) the colors one needs so this implementation is way easier. 09.08.25 # so: I do not want a fixed point implementation of the previous version ;) 09.10.03 # Why red? 09.10.23 Quit ompaul (Client Quit) 09.12.33 Quit Rob2223 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 09.14.15 # night vision 09.15.35 # if you use red light in the dark your night vision will remain pretty good, if you use white you'll see nothing for the first 5 minutes ;) 09.16.24 # arg, how to you get gdb to jump to continue to the next line of code? 09.20.30 Join ch4os_ [0] (n=ch4os@unaffiliated/ch4os/x-059673) 09.20.41 # petur: I didn't test the plugin yet, but lcd_set_invert_display() requires an lcd_update() afterwards on most targets, as the comments in the target lcd-*.c say 09.20.56 # ouch :( 09.20.58 # Also, m:robe 100 is mono, hence won't see the fix 09.21.59 # lcd_set_invert_display() exists for all bitmap depths (although for some targets it's empty - unrelated to depth but to knowledge about the lcd controller) 09.22.15 Quit atrus (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 09.22.45 # euh, the call is there for all targets that have the dfeine, not just 1+ bit 09.22.50 # *define 09.23.26 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 09.23.28 # Umm, too many #ifdef error ;\ 09.23.58 # but the update is missing, that's true 09.24.03 # hrm.. what's this 'Accessory Power Supply' ? Power supply for ipod's accessories ? 09.24.12 # * petur has no svn access at work :( 09.25.06 # Bger: Yes 09.27.00 # petur: Eh, sorry, I confused something... 09.27.13 # * amiconn obviously not fully awake yet 09.27.30 # * B4gder orders a large coffee for amiconn 09.27.32 # lcd_set_invert_display() doesn't require lcd_update() - confused it with lcd_set_flip() 09.27.42 # phew... 09.30.07 # Slasheri: you round? 09.31.10 # So all is well, and the remaining question is whether I should scrap the fixedpointified hue code. 09.32.11 # you can add it and use up/down keys to switch between fixed color and variable color modes ;) 09.33.50 # imho the limited fixed colors are fine. The provious one even had a bug, you couln't get to white light again 09.34.20 # That should have worked... 09.34.40 # SON OF A .... 09.34.41 # I tried it on h300, it didn't 09.34.43 # h goes 0..360 in the original code, modulo 365 in steps of 5 09.35.00 # 0 means white, 5...360 means a hue of 0..355 09.35.12 # yes, but it responds to key press and release 09.35.31 # It shouldn't react to releases 09.35.39 # That's a bug, of course 09.35.43 # that was one of my fixes... 09.35.57 # do any targets not use 4 bytes for long or 2 bytes for short? 09.36.33 # JdGordon: Simply, don't rely on such assumptions 09.36.46 # They will break, e.g. in 64 bit sims 09.36.47 # its not my code... 09.37.00 # this is why my comp couldnt build the databse 09.37.10 # structec.h is full of such assumtopnms 09.37.13 # assumptions even 09.38.05 # Well, in that case - all current targets have 8 bit char, 16 bit short, 32 bit int and 32 bit long 09.38.09 # it needs to be fixed properly, but not sure if its worth building it for targets if that assumption is actuall valid 09.38.33 # Use the appropriate fixed size types where necessary 09.38.48 # (u)int32_t and friends 09.43.23 # is it likely to cause problems if I change long to int32_t in the tagcache structs? 09.43.44 # worst case is things get truncated on 64bit sim right? 09.43.46 # someone willing to commit 2 translated strings to the bulgarian language ? (http://gurch.cjb.net/web/bulgarian.diff.gz) 09.44.29 # i.e http://pastebin.ca/995522 09.47.58 # * JdGordon feels like he isnt going to get an answer :/ 09.48.18 # JdGordon seems ok, at least to me 09.48.38 # and ill commit that diff in a sec 09.49.45 # at least this wouldn't change anything on the targets (if sizeof(long)==sizeof(int32_t)) 09.51.06 # well yeah, thats what I figure 09.53.29 Quit Shaid (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 09.58.45 # JdGordon: nope, that should be fine (and in fact a good thing to do) 09.58.58 # that way we would guarantee tagcache binary compatibility 09.59.40 # ideally structec shuold be fixed to remove the assumption... 10.00.11 # was there a reason you went with long instead of int anyway? 10.21.24 Join pixelma [50] (i=pixelma@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 10.22.58 Join knittl [0] (n=knittl@193.170.135.34) 10.28.33 Part eluria ("soms ook..") 10.30.22 Join gevaerts [0] (n=fg@195-144-092-175.dyn.adsl.xs4all.be) 10.44.00 Join theli_ua [0] (n=theli@92.112.10.199) 10.53.06 Join desowin [0] (n=desowin@atheme/member/desowin) 10.54.53 Quit linuxstb (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 10.56.22 Quit cool_walking__ (Remote closed the connection) 11.10.56 Quit DaCapn (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 11.23.28 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 11.25.26 Join linuxstb [0] (n=linuxstb@rockbox/developer/linuxstb) 11.45.37 Join DerPapst [0] (n=Der@p5B23E132.dip.t-dialin.net) 11.49.14 Join internet_ [0] (n=internet@i577B4619.versanet.de) 11.50.46 Part internet_ ("Konversation terminated!") 11.53.22 Nick fxb is now known as fxb__ (n=felixbru@h1252615.stratoserver.net) 11.54.18 Join OlivierBorowski [0] (n=OlivierB@ANancy-157-1-16-165.w86-204.abo.wanadoo.fr) 11.59.11 Quit goffa_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 12.08.02 # jhMikeS: you had a look at sdoyon's patch? it's really more your area than mine 12.11.20 Join webguest11 [0] (n=5467466d@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-0153c515ad6f06fe) 12.14.48 Join studente23 [0] (n=john454@81-208-106-67.ip.fastwebnet.it) 12.15.06 # * studente23 says Hello! 12.17.35 # hi 12.17.56 Join kugel [0] (n=kugel@unaffiliated/kugel) 12.18.20 # Ahh, my click-on-4weeks-crash is gone 12.18.51 # It seems that the ubuntu firefox extension was causing it 12.19.00 Join mf0102 [0] (n=michi@85.127.182.34) 12.20.32 # is it normal that only my database settings were not saving when I shutdown my rockbox ? 12.21.12 # webguest11: how do you shutdown rockbox, and what settings weren't saved? 12.22.19 Join Nico_P [50] (n=nicolas@rockbox/developer/NicoP) 12.23.20 # holding the play button (i use a Ipod 5G). And for the configuration it is : "Load to RAM", "Gather Runtime Data" and "Auto Update" 12.27.06 # and the language also 12.28.12 Join chro [0] (n=cdbfc2a4@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-fa86249a22232018) 12.28.28 # webguest11: so basically it doesn't save any settings? 12.28.33 # sorry, all the config are cleared 12.28.37 # but sometimes no 12.28.46 # (the old button is not on) 12.29.07 # i have heard similar reports on ipod 5.5G 12.29.41 # what happens if you remove config.cfg? 12.31.42 # all configuration are cleared 12.32.13 # (settings are now saved in config.cfg and not in the firt partition of Hdd ???) 12.33.38 Quit chro ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)") 12.34.34 # webguest11: that was a looooong time ago :-) 12.34.50 # webguest11: now, does it save the settings if you change them? 12.35.34 # sorry it was a long time that my ipod are broken, apple send a new one yesterday 12.37.06 # settings seems to be saved, but my database are broken, i have to rebuild it 12.38.41 # working, settings are saved but i don't understand why they weren't 12.40.03 # nether do i 12.40.08 # neither, even 12.44.57 Part studente23 12.45.18 # LinusN: do you have a rockbox version with the "serial port driver for ipod" patch older than the r17193 ? I see that since this revision the power supply for accessory can be enable so i would like to test it 12.46.11 # webguest11: no i haven't, and the accessory power changes allowed it to be disabled rather than enabled, it is on by default 12.51.58 # I missed that commit... I can't recall the Apple firmware having such an option... 12.52.22 # i dislike that commmit very much 12.52.25 # it shouldn't be an option 12.52.42 # there has to be some way to detect an accessory another way 12.53.09 # Exactly. 12.53.55 # I think it's not a bad idea until we know how to do that detection though 12.54.01 # it's a few more mA saved 12.54.33 # I didn't think Rockbox did temporary hacks... 12.54.37 # i guess so, i just hope someone will look into it 12.54.46 # linuxstb: a good point... 13.00.58 # JdGordon: yes, long was used because it should be always 32 bits 13.08.39 Quit webguest11 ("CGI:IRC") 13.15.38 Join styleism [0] (n=styleism@87-194-104-214.bethere.co.uk) 13.23.33 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 13.24.56 Join hofmann [0] (n=c223db67@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-308627455f5ee6ca) 13.25.57 # hey all, just wondering if the apple warranty is compromised by installing rockbox on an ipod? 13.29.24 # hofmann: I don't think they will be happy if you send it in for repair with rockbox on it 13.31.08 Join Bensawsome_ [0] (n=upirc@72.10.125.130) 13.31.09 # hofmann: if you want to be sure, you'll have to ask apple 13.31.24 # hmmm... theres a bad sector on the hard drive, and i can't seem to get windows to ignore it when transferring music... i checked with apple and theres still a few months of warranty left so i'm gonna take it in to a apple store later today 13.31.39 # that not good 13.32.11 # but still macs rule :D 13.32.14 # hofmann: If I was you I would remove Rockbox - a restore with itunes is probably the cleanest way (and something the Apple Store would probably do anyway) 13.32.28 # Bensawsome_: you're wrong ;) 13.32.40 # UR FACE IS WRONG! 13.32.42 # lol 13.33.01 # yeah... that's what i was planning... i have to travel like 100 miles to glasgow to go to the store so i'm gonna be bored out of my mind on the bus :( lol 13.33.07 # ah well, thanks guys 13.33.22 # * gevaerts remembers that Ur is an antique city, and can't imagine what it's doing here... 13.33.34 # lol 13.34.14 # OMG 13.34.45 # Bensawsome_: please use real english words here, and try to stay on topic 13.34.58 # o ya......... 13.35.03 # i mean oh ya.... 13.35.06 # lol 13.35.42 Quit Bensawsome_ ("Leaving") 13.36.03 Join DerDome [0] (n=DerDome@dslb-082-083-249-231.pools.arcor-ip.net) 13.36.21 # see you guys soon, keep up the good work 13.37.52 Quit hofmann ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 13.43.22 Quit DerPapst (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 13.45.08 Join ali_as_ [0] (n=as@ambix.plus.com) 13.49.02 # * petur wonders how badly Bagder is getting on the nerves of the neuros guys 13.50.57 # * gevaerts guesses : 42 13.50.58 Join mcflow [0] (n=mcflow@88-134-3-18-dynip.superkabel.de) 13.51.15 # * gevaerts runs away 13.51.31 # I'm their prime annoyance every time they start talking on new open things ;-) 13.51.39 # yay! 13.51.51 # * pixelma sees gevaerts running again 13.53.34 # * gevaerts tries to keep fit 13.53.44 Join XavierGr [0] (n=xavier@rockbox/staff/XavierGr) 13.54.51 Quit ali_as (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 13.58.13 Quit styleism (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 14.04.11 Quit Seldaek ("Offline") 14.05.29 Join OlivierBorowski_ [0] (n=OlivierB@ANancy-157-1-33-238.w81-50.abo.wanadoo.fr) 14.06.56 Join nplus [0] (n=npl@141.25.globcom.net) 14.12.53 Join Mathiasdm [0] (n=Mathias@vpnb123.ugent.be) 14.13.33 Quit knittl (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 14.14.17 Join knittl [0] (n=knittl@193.170.135.34) 14.14.19 Quit knittl (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 14.16.12 Join Thundercloud [0] (n=thunderc@resnet14.nat.lancs.ac.uk) 14.16.32 Join PaulJam [0] (i=PaulJam_@vpn-3062.gwdg.de) 14.23.12 Quit OlivierBorowski (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 14.32.10 Quit mcflow (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 14.33.46 Join mcflow [0] (n=mcflow@88-134-3-18-dynip.superkabel.de) 14.37.01 Join Arathis [0] (n=doerk@p508A7EA3.dip.t-dialin.net) 14.39.37 Quit ashes (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 14.41.32 Part B4gder 14.48.10 Quit mcflow ("Leaving.") 14.52.07 # who was interested in disktidy? /me forgot which dev i was talking to yesterday :p 14.52.44 # derpapst and lambdacalculus have been poking at it 14.53.20 # I've just put together a nice UI for customizing the files which are removed 14.53.29 # hoping to show it to someone before putting it on the tracker 14.53.46 # rockbox reads the 'band' tag for album artist too, but I can't find it in the source, did 'grep -r "\"band\"" *') 14.54.01 # s/,/(/ 14.55.39 Join LambdaCalculus37 [0] (n=44a0430f@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-49632e128f2d7950) 14.56.14 # Where is it? 15.01.50 Join Crash91 [0] (n=29e8cc35@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-234ac2c26bac2025) 15.07.19 Quit OlivierBorowski_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 15.12.50 # kugel: Which tagging format are you talking about? 15.13.10 # id3v2 15.13.23 # Then you want to look at firmware/id3.c 15.13.28 # I did 15.13.33 # There's no band 15.13.49 # ID3 doesn't use full names, it uses short abbreviations (iiuc) 15.13.50 # as I said, grep -r "\"band\"" *' gave no results 15.14.08 # however, albumartist and ensemble were found 15.21.45 Join RoC_MasterMind [0] (n=Free@c-71-203-172-58.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) 15.22.53 Quit RoC_MasterMind (Client Quit) 15.23.37 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 15.24.44 # * JdGordon decides to update the disktidy patch instead of trying to get someone to look at it in the channel :p 15.31.47 # * LambdaCalculus37 looks at JdGordon's handiwork 15.33.23 Quit DerDome ("Leaving.") 15.40.46 Part jerichokb ("Back to the real world, unfortunately") 15.40.56 Join Dauerbaustelle [0] (n=jonas@hbrn-4dbcc1fc.pool.einsundeins.de) 15.41.09 # Hello, whats the name of rockbox standard theme? I want it back ;) 15.41.33 # Cabbie 2.0 15.41.37 # thx 15.41.47 Quit Dauerbaustelle (Client Quit) 15.43.41 Join goffa [0] (n=goffa@216.220.23.105) 15.46.25 # * petur hopes he will not meet Dauerbaustelle when driving to Devcon 15.47.47 Quit Crash91 ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 15.50.39 Join DerPapst [0] (n=Der@p5B23E132.dip.t-dialin.net) 15.51.06 # linuxstb: No idea regarding the band tag? 15.51.51 # kugel: What ID3v2 tag are you using for "band" ? 15.52.06 # band is the tag 15.52.10 Join GPL [0] (n=rgd@hst-241-40.splius.lt) 15.52.28 # mp3tag uses/used band for album artist 15.52.57 # "band" isn't the name of the tag. 15.53.12 # so album artist? 15.53.14 # It will be something like "TPE2" 15.53.26 # hmm, I don't know 15.53.46 # I just enter band and the album artist in mp3tag 15.54.39 # You need to use a tag editor that shows you the real tag names (maybe just a hex editor would help). Then you can see how Rockbox deals with them. 15.54.49 # JdGordon: can't say i like disktidy being a viewer 15.55.10 # why not? its more to save you having to chose the files every time 15.55.10 # Ah ok, I didn't know of that internal real tag names 15.56.39 # JdGordon: just doesn't sound very intuitive to have a disk tidy plugin work that way 15.56.58 # and i like to keep things intuitive so rockbox doesn't become something that relies even further upon the manual 15.57.31 # chose no then when it asks if you want to save and you'll never know its a viewer 15.57.33 # my friend tried to install rockbox into his ipod 5.5 gen but failed. ipodpatcher.exe did not find his ipod. and when he tried to format his ipod on windows he got "read only device" error. 15.58.00 # so, is his 5.5 realy supportded? 15.58.10 # JdGordon: right, i've probably overlooked the finer details on how it works. i'll give a test later 15.58.22 # GPL: Is it indeed a 5.5G iPod? 15.58.44 # Plastic front and shiny back? 15.58.49 # Or metal front and shiny back? 15.58.59 Part LinusN 15.59.55 # preglow: the viewer part only preloads the files to remove.. it doesnt automatically remove anything, if thats what your worried about 16.00.00 # it still puts you in the menu 16.00.16 # LambdaCalculus37, if i am correct - black plastick front and metal back 16.01.02 # JdGordon: nah, wasn't worried about that, just worried about it being hard to understand how an otherwise simple plugin should be used 16.01.24 # JdGordon: your disktidy version is missing the wildcard stuff right now? 16.01.30 # yes 16.01.32 # ok 16.02.02 # GPL: Did he run ipodpatcher with admin rights in Windows? 16.02.52 # LambdaCalculus37, i guess so, but i will ask him about it next time, thanks. 16.04.36 # JdGordon: then {"._", false, false} doesn't make sense because macosx doesn't create any files with exactly this name :-P but the wildcard thing should be easy to add. 16.04.37 # amiconn: which viewport bugs? 16.04.40 # I wonder if the album art location is saved in the database files 16.05.08 # DerPapst: ah, dont use osx enough to know that :p (and you got pm...) 16.08.24 # GPL: All right. Make sure he doesn't have an iPod Classic, because then he most definitely can not run Rockbox. 16.08.49 # kugel: I dont tinhk it is... 16.09.14 # LambdaCalculus37, what is the number for "Classic"? 16.09.29 # JdGordon: Would be nicer if it would, right? 16.09.40 # yes 16.10.59 # GPL: 6th Gen. It's what Apple sells now. 16.11.32 Quit EspeonEefi ("さよなら") 16.11.39 # The Apple firmware is all new, and the front face is made of anodized aluminum. 16.13.22 # LambdaCalculus37, and is there a posibility that sooner or later rockbox will be available fro gth gen? or does any architecture of 6th gen restricts something? 16.13.36 # *for 6th gen 16.13.38 # always a possibility 16.15.10 # Someone has to figure out the encryption on the Apple firmware as well. 16.16.03 Part theli_ua 16.35.56 Join adiamas [0] (n=adiamas@12.193.211.18) 16.36.06 Join Bensawsome-clie [0] (n=upirc@72.10.125.130) 16.37.28 Quit adiamas (Client Quit) 16.37.30 Quit HellDragon (Connection timed out) 16.37.55 Quit cbr|w ("!") 16.43.30 Join courtc_ [0] (n=court@c-24-99-230-218.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) 16.44.39 Quit courtc (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 16.49.19 Quit corevette (Remote closed the connection) 16.52.25 Join DaCapn [0] (n=dacapn@c-67-170-177-22.hsd1.or.comcast.net) 16.52.53 Quit Bensawsome-clie ("Leaving") 17.01.45 Quit GPL ("Išeinu") 17.02.02 Part pixelma 17.02.46 Quit kugel ("ChatZilla 0.9.81 [Firefox 3.0b5/2008041515]") 17.06.52 Join Bensawsome-Clie [0] (n=upirc@72.10.125.130) 17.16.04 Join sitwon [0] (n=adam@static-71-166-233-112.washdc.east.verizon.net) 17.19.17 # is the audiobuffer zeroed or anything on boot up? 17.19.44 # no 17.22.19 Part Bensawsome-Clie 17.23.38 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 17.24.35 Nick fxb__ is now known as fxb (n=felixbru@h1252615.stratoserver.net) 17.25.11 # JdGordon: would that be useful? 17.25.48 # probaly not.. just making sure its not whats causing my problems 17.25.49 Join dabujo [0] (i=xx@p4FDB39CA.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 17.28.41 Quit XavierGr (Nick collision from services.) 17.28.51 Join XavierGr [0] (n=xavier@rockbox/staff/XavierGr) 17.32.59 Join dandin1 [0] (n=anon2155@bas7-ottawa23-1088834715.dsl.bell.ca) 17.36.54 Join Bensawsome-Clie [0] (n=upirc@72.10.125.130) 17.38.04 Quit gevaerts ("work->home") 17.39.37 Part Bensawsome-Clie 17.40.13 Nick fxb is now known as fxb__ (n=felixbru@h1252615.stratoserver.net) 17.43.51 Join mcuelenaere [0] (n=mcuelena@78-21-185-185.access.telenet.be) 17.45.28 # hi, could someone with a GCC 4 X86 compiler check this patch against current SVN and see if it gives warnings? http://pastebin.com/d295132a8 17.48.29 Quit mcuelenaere (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 17.49.41 Quit Thundercloud (Remote closed the connection) 17.50.21 Quit Nico_P (Remote closed the connection) 17.53.37 Quit Xerion (" ") 17.53.43 Join mcuelenaere [0] (n=mcuelena@rockbox/developer/mcuelenaere) 17.56.25 # amiconn: mind a pm? 17.56.33 Join Thundercloud [0] (n=thunderc@resnet17.nat.lancs.ac.uk) 17.59.30 Quit desowin (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 18.05.29 Join gevaerts [0] (n=fg@195-144-092-175.dyn.adsl.xs4all.be) 18.05.33 Quit petur ("work -> rain -> home :(") 18.10.21 Join w1ll14m [0] (n=William@dhcp-077-249-150-171.chello.nl) 18.10.41 # hi :) 18.11.04 # * gevaerts waves 18.11.23 # * w1ll14m waves back 18.11.30 # o/ 18.11.51 # * w1ll14m \o --> DerPapst 18.12.58 # my stupid windows dies today 18.13.08 # s/dies/died/ 18.13.28 # so i guess it needs a reinstall 18.13.50 # it was after installing ms vstudio 2005 + platform builder :| 18.14.16 # * gevaerts points people to #rockbox-community 18.15.50 Join domonoky [0] (n=Domonoky@rockbox/developer/domonoky) 18.18.23 Nick w1ll14m is now known as w1ll14m|aw (n=William@dhcp-077-249-150-171.chello.nl) 18.20.56 Join pixelma [0] (i=HydraIRC@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 18.22.13 Join faemir [0] (n=faemir@88-106-220-26.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) 18.22.24 Join EspeonEefi [0] (i=espeonee@STRATTON-THREE-FORTY-FOUR.MIT.EDU) 18.22.32 Quit mcuelenaere () 18.23.27 Join miepchen^schlaf [0] (n=miepchen@p54BF7CAE.dip.t-dialin.net) 18.28.09 Join herrwaldo [0] (n=waldo@ip-81-11-210-89.dsl.scarlet.be) 18.28.25 Join K4rP4D [0] (n=KrPD@unaffiliated/krpd) 18.30.53 Join lee-qid [0] (n=liqid@p54966A35.dip.t-dialin.net) 18.31.13 Quit leox (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 18.31.29 Join leox [0] (n=leox@165-162-114-200.fibertel.com.ar) 18.36.02 Quit advcomp2019 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 18.36.16 Join advcomp2019 [0] (n=advcomp2@unaffiliated/advcomp2019) 18.36.40 Quit mf0102 ("Verlassend") 18.40.43 Join desowin [0] (n=desowin@atheme/member/desowin) 18.40.47 Quit linuxstb (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 18.44.09 Quit pixelma (" Try HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <-") 18.45.30 Join BigBambi [0] (n=Alex@rockbox/staff/BigBambi) 18.48.07 Join bertrik [0] (n=bertrik@127-013-045-062.dynamic.caiway.nl) 18.48.24 Join bluebrother [0] (n=dom@rockbox/staff/bluebrother) 18.49.21 # hmm. When uninstalling on the H10 pure, does the firmware file needs to be renamed to H10EMP.mi4 again? Or is H10.mi4 sufficient? 18.55.31 Quit simonrvn ("bbiab") 18.57.38 Join pondlife [50] (n=Steve@rockbox/developer/pondlife) 18.58.08 # Who's behind rockbox-themes ? 18.58.56 # Could I suggest that the many links to the daily build page ("Any recent daily build") are changed to point to the current build... 18.59.51 # rockbox-themes will be replaced "shortly" .. :-) 19.00.13 # Well, take that as a suggestion for the replacement... ;) 19.00.33 # * domonoky hints scorche .. :-) 19.01.16 # dont hint me...the burden has shifted onto linuxstb 19.01.36 # at least the burden of making the site 19.01.41 # * domonoky hints linuxstb.. :-) 19.02.15 # * pondlife hints pondlife by accident 19.02.30 Quit Arathis ("Bye, bye") 19.05.23 Join simonrvn [0] (i=simon@unaffiliated/simonrvn) 19.06.08 Join Bensawsome-Clie [0] (n=upirc@72.10.125.130) 19.07.54 Nick Bensawsome-Clie is now known as Bensawsome-Sony (n=upirc@72.10.125.130) 19.08.54 Nick Bensawsome-Sony is now known as Bensawsome-Clie (n=upirc@72.10.125.130) 19.10.00 Join linuxstb [0] (n=linuxstb@rockbox/developer/linuxstb) 19.11.11 Quit Bensawsome-Clie ("Leaving") 19.11.15 Join Sjano [0] (n=gfh@117.81-166-241.customer.lyse.net) 19.22.47 Join ompaul [0] (n=ompaul@gnewsense/friend/ompaul) 19.23.06 Part pondlife 19.23.37 Join Horscht [0] (n=Horscht@xbmc/user/horscht) 19.23.41 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 19.28.16 # * LambdaCalculus37 is doing some work for a Gigabeat S manual 19.30.14 Join testor [0] (n=testor@lib5.music.utoronto.ca) 19.30.25 # what is the best mp3 player for use with rockbox? 19.30.27 Join gevaerts2 [0] (n=fg@195-144-092-130.dyn.adsl.xs4all.be) 19.30.43 # testor: Depends what you want 19.30.48 Join gevaerts4 [0] (n=fg@195-144-092-130.dyn.adsl.xs4all.be) 19.30.52 # testor: Check out the BuyersGuide on the wiki 19.30.56 Quit gevaerts4 (Client Quit) 19.30.56 Quit gevaerts2 (Client Quit) 19.30.59 Join gevaerts_ [0] (n=fg@195-144-092-130.dyn.adsl.xs4all.be) 19.31.11 # oh neat 19.31.27 Quit gevaerts (Nick collision from services.) 19.31.34 Nick gevaerts_ is now known as gevaerts (n=fg@195-144-092-130.dyn.adsl.xs4all.be) 19.33.11 Join Bensawsome-Clie [0] (n=upirc@72.10.125.130) 19.33.37 Join gregzx [0] (n=chatzill@drf90.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) 19.33.39 Quit desowin ("KVIrc 4.0.0 Insomnia http://www.kvirc.net/") 19.33.56 Join Nico_P [50] (n=nicolas@rockbox/developer/NicoP) 19.39.31 # Nico_P: I'm starting a little initial work on the Gigabeat S manual. 19.39.40 # nice :) 19.40.42 # We can cheat a bit and use Gigabeat F screen caps on certain spots, can't we? 19.40.59 # We just need a screen cap of the Gigabeat S main menu and specific features to it. 19.41.02 # No you can't ! 19.41.10 # * gevaerts dislikes cheating 19.41.13 # LambdaCalculus37: of course. most of it will be the same 19.41.43 # i guess all will be the same... 19.41.48 # Nico_P: How should I label each of the buttons? 19.42.14 # LambdaCalculus37: I'd say the window is MENU, and the other one is BACK 19.42.27 # the other ones are pretty straightforward 19.42.38 # * Nico_P goes to have dinner 19.42.53 # Play/Pause, RW, FF, Vol Up/Down, and POWER. 19.43.32 Nick w1ll14m|aw is now known as w1ll14m (n=William@dhcp-077-249-150-171.chello.nl) 19.43.49 # yep :-) 19.44.18 # I need keymaps for all of the plugins on the beast. 19.44.25 # and hold :-) 19.47.48 Quit bertrik (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 19.48.02 Join mcuelenaere [0] (n=mcuelena@rockbox/developer/mcuelenaere) 19.51.38 Join in-ferno [0] (n=3ef170ea@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-ecc257541bb440a2) 19.51.57 Part jcollie ("Ex-Chat") 19.53.42 Quit in-ferno (Client Quit) 19.54.49 Join fyrestorm [0] (n=fyre@cpe-68-173-174-251.nyc.res.rr.com) 19.56.08 # is the buyer's guide totally up to date or should i also look at other models? 19.58.39 # testor: the most up to date list of players with working rockbox is on the front page 19.59.11 Join pixelma [50] (i=pixelma@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 19.59.20 Quit davina (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 19.59.20 Quit spleenk (Remote closed the connection) 19.59.32 Join spleenk [0] (i=torstehe@leopard.stud.ntnu.no) 19.59.43 Quit Mathiasdm ("Yuuw!") 19.59.48 Join davina [0] (n=davina@cpc1-sout6-0-0-cust616.sotn.cable.ntl.com) 20.00.11 # ok 20.00.26 # and, i'm having trouble finding this out: is there some way to read pdfs inside rockbox? 20.00.44 # No 20.01.35 # Plain text files only. 20.02.06 Join kugel [0] (n=chatzill@unaffiliated/kugel) 20.03.02 # ok. i'll see if any of them do it in their native os i guess 20.03.43 # Even if some can do it, I think it's unlikey 20.04.08 # very unlikely 20.04.10 # ... unikey to work well. pdf files define the page size, and you only have a small screen 20.04.18 # except for maybe the ipod touch ? 20.04.55 # anyway, who would want to view pdf's on their mp3 player ? 20.05.05 Quit XavierGr (Nick collision from services.) 20.05.07 Quit perrikwp ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") 20.05.16 Join XavierGr [0] (n=xavier@rockbox/staff/XavierGr) 20.07.25 # * DerPapst raises hand 20.07.31 # but only simple ones 20.07.40 # I'd suggest using html instead ;-) 20.07.44 # hmm ... :) 20.08.18 # my pda has some adobe reader... also 320x240 screen tho 20.08.27 # never used it 20.08.36 # anything simple (but not as simple as plin text) is fine 20.08.53 # about the S' keypmap, I think the 'back' button should allow going back in menus and the browser (currently it doesn't) 20.08.53 # :) 20.09.34 # Nico_P: i'm all for it. :-) 20.10.11 # Nico_P i agree 20.10.30 # that would ease navigation i think 20.10.48 # omg 20.10.58 # i just found out how dead my ipod 60GB harddisk is 20.11.04 # :( 20.11.13 # lol 20.11.36 # Nico_P: I agree, too. 20.11.49 Quit tedrock () 20.11.49 Quit Bensawsome-Clie ("Leaving") 20.12.21 Join ZincAlloy [0] (n=d9eedc99@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-f3e123433c1ebeec) 20.12.33 Quit fyre^OS (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 20.12.56 Join bertrik [0] (n=3e2d0d7f@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-7a7c5f0ce28d97d1) 20.13.03 # what does the 'available' column in the buyersguide mean? 20.13.39 # That shows if you can still buy them in a local shop or now. 20.13.44 # s/now/not 20.14.13 # Is that still accurate ? 20.15.37 # testor: All the currently working players are no longer produced 20.15.44 # gevaerts: Doubt it, I'll go and look 20.16.58 # I'm just going to change them all to some - they are gettable, but not so easily 20.17.24 Join perrikwp [0] (i=98214cf4@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-5ab7bab0a110eba4) 20.19.09 Quit perrikwp (Client Quit) 20.19.56 Quit testor ("http://irc.netsplit.de/") 20.20.14 Nick fxb__ is now known as fxb (n=felixbru@h1252615.stratoserver.net) 20.22.26 Join tedrock [0] (n=tedrock@d235-144-17.home1.cgocable.net) 20.22.38 Quit tedrock (Remote closed the connection) 20.24.03 Join Lear [0] (i=chatzill@rockbox/developer/lear) 20.24.32 Join markl554 [0] (n=chatzill@71-82-95-109.dhcp.aldl.mi.charter.com) 20.25.21 # hey sweet.....just browsing irc and i stubmle in to the rockbox channel 20.26.05 # anyone here know how for the creative zen port is? 20.26.36 # if anyones awake..... 20.26.38 # how for? 20.26.52 # ah you mean far? 20.26.57 # sorry how far? 20.27.00 # yes 20.27.01 # no idea 20.27.11 # I think the forum thread has all the progress 20.27.17 # markl554: Check out the thread in the New Ports forum 20.27.21 # hmmm....... 20.27.25 # http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=3320.0 20.27.44 # yes....it does but seeming i kinda stubled in here i just figured i'd ask 20.27.55 # markl554: You can read as well as I 20.28.25 # * gevaerts organises a contest to test that 20.28.32 # thanks 20.28.38 # gevaerts: hehe :) 20.30.45 Join jgarvey [0] (n=jgarvey@cpe-024-163-032-204.nc.res.rr.com) 20.32.12 # * ender` yawns 20.33.41 Join Mathiasdm [0] (n=Mathias@vpne108.ugent.be) 20.36.23 Part markl554 20.38.39 Join perrikwp [0] (i=98214cf4@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-9c3ddce2b6bc37d6) 20.40.06 Quit bertrik ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)") 20.40.53 # amiconn: ping 20.50.56 Join bluebroth3r [0] (n=dom@f053152201.adsl.alicedsl.de) 20.52.40 Join DerDome [0] (n=DerDome@dslb-082-083-249-231.pools.arcor-ip.net) 20.55.38 Quit Mathiasdm ("Yuuw!") 20.58.10 Quit Battousai (Remote closed the connection) 21.02.21 Part Sjano 21.02.25 Join Battousai [0] (n=bryan@maduin.southcape.org) 21.05.12 Quit simonrvn (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 21.08.43 Quit bluebrother (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 21.10.08 Quit w1ll14m (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 21.11.17 Quit ompaul (No route to host) 21.14.49 # pixelma: Around? 21.15.57 Quit spleenk (Remote closed the connection) 21.16.15 Join spleenk [0] (i=torstehe@leopard.stud.ntnu.no) 21.18.27 # yes 21.19.17 Quit toresn ("leaving") 21.19.31 # LambdaCalculus37? 21.19.53 # pixelma: I volunteered to work on the manual for the Gigabeat S. 21.20.07 # I need a vector drawing of the S for the manual. 21.21.03 Quit XavierGr (Nick collision from services.) 21.21.16 Join XavierGr [0] (n=xavier@rockbox/staff/XavierGr) 21.21.36 Join ThibG [0] (n=thib@abo-108-239-68.guy.modulonet.fr) 21.21.38 # DerPapst: pong 21.21.53 # Hi 21.21.57 Join bertrik [0] (n=bertrik@127-013-045-062.dynamic.caiway.nl) 21.22.54 # LambdaCalculus37: you don't _need_ one for a start - you mean it would be nice though... :) 21.23.19 # I have a Cowon D2 (4GB). Can I try the rockbox port without any risk of bricking my D2? 21.23.25 # pixelma: Yes, that's what I meant. :) 21.23.42 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 21.23.59 # I'll take needed screencaps, but I think we can get away with using the screencaps from the Gigabeat F on the S manual. 21.24.16 Quit perrikwp ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") 21.24.19 # I'll just take one of the FM radio (when it's ready), and the main menu. 21.24.28 Join hannesd [0] (n=light@p5B1632A4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 21.26.09 # LambdaCalculus37: will look into it but it wouldn't have top priority currently 21.26.41 # pixelma: No problem. 21.26.50 # The manual's going to take some time, anyway. 21.27.09 # We still need to get a final installation solution to describe. 21.27.31 # All I'm going to do for now is lay out some new Gigabeat S-specific pages. 21.28.23 Quit Nico_P (Remote closed the connection) 21.32.14 Join ebag4 [0] (n=c6245f0b@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-a1b2a7739aeb765c) 21.32.16 Quit ebag4 (Client Quit) 21.33.51 Join perrikwp [0] (i=98216d18@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-c1675d17bab0488c) 21.34.02 Join dabujo_ [0] (i=xx@p4FDB057C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 21.34.04 Quit ZincAlloy ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)") 21.36.18 Join ZincAlloy [0] (n=d9eedc99@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-a9fe9acd15c9b49c) 21.37.41 # So, is trying Rockbox safe on a cowon D2? 21.38.38 Join Nico_P [50] (n=nicolas@rockbox/developer/NicoP) 21.40.05 # ThibG: it seems that noone who knows is here currently. Doesn't the forum thread about the D2 have that information ? 21.40.09 Join n1s [0] (n=nils@nl104-208-53.student.uu.se) 21.42.52 # amiconn: mind a pm? 21.43.52 Quit perrikwp ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") 21.44.20 Quit spleenk (Remote closed the connection) 21.44.31 Join spleenk [0] (n=torstehe@leopard.stud.ntnu.no) 21.44.40 # Oh! I haven't found that information right now, but I've read that rockbox tools can unbrick a D2 :) 21.44.41 # LambdaCalculus37: the S seems to have a weird cross (not a touch thing like the F, right?). What's it made of? 21.45.22 # pixelma: Tactile buttons. 21.45.33 # pixelma: transparent plastic 21.45.46 # aha 21.46.06 # * LambdaCalculus37 likes the buttons much more than the touchpad cross on the F 21.49.33 # * amiconn would also prefer these buttons over the gigabeat f/x touch thingy, but still doesn't want a gigabeat 21.50.33 Join perrikwp [0] (i=98216d18@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-ace23e25a08fc2c1) 21.51.00 # is that a separate button in the center of the cross? 21.52.07 Quit dabujo (Connection timed out) 21.52.23 # LambdaCalculus37: tactile? they don't seem tactile to me? 21.52.37 # they are physical buttons 21.52.41 # pixelma: yes 21.52.48 # ZVM keymap works! :) 21.52.57 # \o/ 21.53.03 # mcuelenaere: congratulations :) 21.53.08 # gevaerts: where's the smile? 21.53.17 # yes. the s has "real" buttons 21.53.19 # :) 21.53.38 # Nico_P: I didn't feel like looking for it. I should really make a macro :) 21.53.51 # mcuelenaere: good work! 21.53.59 Nick bluebroth3r is now known as bluebrother (n=dom@f053152201.adsl.alicedsl.de) 21.54.03 # wow, there are so many settings.. :) 21.54.41 # \?/ 21.55.01 # * LambdaCalculus37 smacks himself awake a bit 21.55.33 # Man, I should stop talking when I'm tired. :) 21.55.56 # Nico_P: Yes, you're right. :) 21.57.12 # * Nico_P leaves 21.57.13 # mcuelenaere: Are you going to commit to SVN soon? 21.57.25 # yes, I believe so 21.57.35 # first some little cleanups, and then I'll do my first big commit :) 21.57.56 Quit LambdaCalculus37 ("CGI:IRC") 21.58.03 # LambdaCalculus37: just read you volunteering about the manual. You're aware how the screenshot inclusion works? 21.58.45 # oh, just missed him. 22.01.51 Quit Lear ("ChatZilla 0.9.81 [Firefox 3.0pre/2008042407]") 22.03.46 Join simplyshooting [0] (n=478f9d41@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-cb9c869b57a2ea67) 22.04.14 Quit simplyshooting (Client Quit) 22.06.23 Join OlivierBorowski [0] (n=OlivierB@ANancy-157-1-134-116.w90-6.abo.wanadoo.fr) 22.08.36 # let's hope I didn't break the m:robe 500 target.. 22.10.33 Join fml [0] (n=4fd3c873@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-aa9d1523b4284cfc) 22.11.14 Quit fml (Client Quit) 22.11.50 Join fml [0] (n=4fd3c873@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-a1acf853a4a27d34) 22.12.46 # We'll know soon ;) 22.13.01 # just 2 more minutes... :) 22.14.34 # Hello. I think the new flashlight plugin is a good thing! Wouldn't it be a good idea to make it sitchable with a button. I.e. it would go off if you press and hold a button and goes on again once you release it. 22.15.21 Quit perrikwp ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") 22.15.35 Join perrikwp [0] (i=98216d18@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-e93f760890647c9b) 22.17.09 # wow, not a single extra red or yellow :) 22.17.19 # * linuxstb wonders why there are three identical core_sleep() implementations (for TCC78xx, IMX31L and DM320) 22.17.25 # mcuelenaere: cool, congrats :) 22.17.27 # I even fixed a M:robe 500 yellow :p 22.17.43 # congratulations :) 22.18.30 # thanks :) 22.18.53 # Another question about flashlight (out of curiosity): are there two options on m-robe: red and white? He-he... 22.19.45 # * gevaerts guesses not 22.20.17 Quit OlivierBorowski ("Konversation terminated!") 22.20.24 # shouldn't that rather be red and black? ;-) 22.21.32 # Yes, I wonder how "red" on mrobe looks like 22.21.34 # bight black to light the room 22.22.23 # hehe 22.22.26 # * gevaerts will use his sansa and an mrobe on his bicycle 22.22.44 Join OlivierBorowski [0] (n=OlivierB@ANancy-157-1-134-116.w90-6.abo.wanadoo.fr) 22.22.48 Join ompaul [0] (n=ompaul@gnewsense/friend/ompaul) 22.23.29 # gevaerts: sansa on the front, mrobe as a rear? 22.23.43 # fml: would you advise the reverse ? 22.24.28 # hmm. My m:robe seems to not like the usb connection but only displays a charging screen. Does anybody know why this happenes? 22.24.54 # forgot to enable usb? :-P 22.24.54 # could this be caused by a rather flat battery? I thought I charged it ... 22.25.23 # Not impossible, but I doubt it 22.25.57 # no, that was OF directly after bootup 22.25.58 # linuxstb: IMX31L definitely has had one for some time (first thing I ever did) 22.26.09 # But seriously: how do you find the idea of switching off the light when a button is pressed (not quitting the plugin!) 22.26.29 # * jhMikeS totally misread linuxstb's statement :p 22.26.53 # fml: sounds like a nice idea to me. 22.27.35 # jhMikeS: nice to have a proper rtc driver for the S :) 22.27.44 # fml: good idea indeed. 22.27.49 # "why there are three indentical" != "if there will ever be" *lol* 22.27.59 # jhMikeS: did you have a look at sdoyon's patch? 22.28.03 # does the flashlight plugin has any buttons at all (except quitting the plugin)? 22.28.06 # preglow: which? 22.28.10 # s/buttons/controls/ 22.28.13 # jhMikeS: i think he mailed you directly with the entry 22.28.25 # at least you're listed in the to: 22.28.30 # * jhMikeS tries to get out of lazy mode and check email 22.28.42 # Or the opposite: the light is on only if a button is pressed. This is like a keylock with an LED inside. You know what I mean? 22.29.05 # yep. 22.29.11 # You could switch between those modes with the hold switch on targets that have it 22.30.20 Join |AhIoRoS| [0] (n=ahioros@201.226.58.34) 22.30.23 # * gevaerts expects the flashlight plugin to be the most complex of all plugins real soon now 22.30.39 # gevaerts: yes, I think there are enough buttons. Left/Right are for switching colors, another one for turn the light on/off, another one for quitting the plugin. And the rest can be used for mode. 22.31.21 # amiconn: seen FS#8920 ? 22.31.22 # gevaerts: he-he. With possible colors configured in xml! 22.31.37 # * gevaerts runs away 22.32.34 # preglow: I can't seem to find it 22.34.24 # ANother question: shouldn't all "good" plugins also properly quit if USB is detected? 22.34.26 # jhMikeS: FS#8918 22.35.01 # fml: the flashlight plugin is evil, so it doesn't need to do that ;-) 22.36.42 # bluebrother: if it's really evil it should display a splash "HA-HA-HA, I'M EVIL" when USB is detected and the NOT enter the usb mode! 22.37.19 # nice idea. Maybe even "I'm an evil flashlight plugin virus"? 22.37.34 # bluebrother: could you check if the configuration dialogs for tts/enc in rbutil works for you ? (i somehow cant close this dialogs again) 22.38.39 # jhMikeS: really, fs #8918 anyway 22.38.45 # domonoky: you're referring to the sub dialogs for TTS / Encoder? 22.38.51 # jup 22.39.01 # works fine for me. 22.39.04 # preglow: looking now. 22.41.58 Quit fml ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)") 22.42.33 # * jhMikeS thinks "do {...} while(0)" is a bit quaint when "({...})" does the job and looks cleaner 22.44.10 # n1s: I know the bug, although I didn't knwo the report. However, that's only an intermediate fix 22.44.29 # jhMikeS: agreed :) 22.44.47 # jhMikeS: Indeed :) 22.44.54 # you can't return a value from the former either iiuc 22.45.19 # amiconn: ok, seemed liek a simple fix, hate having those rotting away in the tracker 22.46.10 # n1s: A proper fix requires making the headphone detection settings item dynamic, i.e. show it on 2nd Gen, but not 1st Gen 22.46.54 # Hmm, and somehow I can't find an actual patch attached....? 22.47.34 # ah, so it fixes the detection not working on 2g but the setting is still there on 1g. I think the poster never intended to post a diff but more saying "change this to that" 22.47.35 # toffe82: pong (for the logs and yes, it's a long turnaround time :) 22.47.53 # Hmm, probably. 22.48.41 # Wile I knew about that bug, I didn't bother fixing it so far because there are more important things to fix on 1st/2nd Gen (i.e. suspend) 22.49.26 # amiconn: be mindful about the S since it will benefit from suspend implementation too 22.49.50 # Suspend itself is very target specific anyway 22.49.55 # bluebrother, domonoky: With the 1.0.5 version of RButil I'm still getting .voice files where a large portion of the strings are cut off before the end. Is this known? 22.50.18 # The necessary powermanagement and shutdown handling rework is generic though 22.50.28 # Llorean: this is known, and i think its a bug in rockbox, not rbutil... but i am not sure.. 22.50.37 Quit bertrik ("bye") 22.51.06 # * amiconn doesn't get cut off voice strings 22.51.16 # domonoky: I know other people who've reported the problem have claimed other voice files (not made with rbutil) don't show the problem 22.51.21 # amiconn: I doubt all the needed power management will be shareable when dealing with putting the core in state retention mode and handling the PMIC 22.51.21 # * amiconn uses cygwin+sapi5 to generate the voice files though 22.51.25 # But I haven't got that far in testing yet. 22.51.49 # Fs#8066 22.52.19 # i have a broken talkfile to test, but it decodes fine with rbspeexdec.. 22.52.42 # Llorean: can you check if the clips are also cutoff if you have music running ? 22.52.59 # jhMikeS: That's th etarget specific part of course. What I mean is restructuring the shutdown handling so that ata waits until other threads have saved settings, backlight and lcd are put in a defined state, and no thread "just ends" 22.53.35 # domonoky: I will check this later, but my problem is with the .voice file (which may or may not be a different issue) 22.54.08 # All threads must enter well defined states, from where they can return to normal operation 22.54.08 # What's strange is that it's inconsistent which strings get cut off and which don't. 22.54.21 # Ones that end with "ing" for example never do. Ones that end with quieter sounds do. 22.54.27 # I thought maybe it would have to do with wavtrim 22.54.53 # Llorean: very possible, the silence detection is pretty crude iirc 22.55.03 # amiconn: I think I'll have to handle charger insertion (interrupts can wake it and put it back in a sleep mode to kick the PMIC into full charging). 22.55.08 # i also first though about wavtrim, but there are also cutoff talkfiles, and they dont use wavtrim.. 22.55.10 # This will also benefit normal shutdown, as it will reduce the hackshness 22.55.28 # n1s: I tried changing the threshold a lot in both directions and it didn't seem to affect the way the file sounded at all. 22.55.33 Quit Thundercloud (Remote closed the connection) 22.56.01 # The suspend mde itself isn't very difficult on 2nd Gen, although it's a little more than just running the PP at 32kHz 22.56.27 Join Thundercloud [0] (n=thunderc@resnet22.nat.lancs.ac.uk) 22.56.35 # Llorean: is it inconsistent between voice files or does the strings that are cut off change while using a single one? 22.56.55 # The Wolfson and LCD need to be put into suspend, and the RAM needs to be put in low-power self-refresh mode, during which it becomes inaccessible. 22.57.13 # This means all code that has to run during suspend needs to be in iram 22.58.07 Quit Thundercloud (Remote closed the connection) 22.58.50 Quit |AhIoRoS| (Remote closed the connection) 22.58.51 # Fortunately only very little is needed. The wake-up check can be polled (the intc wakes up the core when an enabled interrupt arrives, even if interrupts are disabled at the arm core level) 22.59.15 # ...and buttons use GPIO 23.00.01 Join Thundercloud [0] (n=thunderc@resnet22.nat.lancs.ac.uk) 23.00.01 Join Chronon [0] (i=chronon@c-24-20-117-106.hsd1.or.comcast.net) 23.00.56 Quit gregzx ("ChatZilla 0.9.81 [Firefox 2.0.0.14/2008040413]") 23.01.52 # Hm... I'm going to sleep... I'll test rockbox on my D2 soon :) 23.03.49 # n1s: Always the same strings with my testing so far (though domonoky has reminded me of an important case I entirely forgot to test) 23.06.30 # jhMikeS: any opinions on the patch? 23.07.12 # preglow: I want to apply it to the tree and have a look first. From the diff it looks good but it's not as clear that way. 23.07.40 # indeed 23.08.56 Join corevette [0] (n=corevett@adsl-75-18-204-59.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) 23.10.44 Quit hannesd (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 23.12.45 # preglow: looks fine in the voice_thread.c area 23.12.59 Quit lee-qid (Connection timed out) 23.14.03 # though maybe queue_lock should be talk_queue_lock (to avoid future kernel conflicts) 23.15.01 Join kerframil [0] (n=kerframi@gentoo/user/kerframil) 23.16.36 Quit ThibG ("Quitte") 23.18.28 Quit domonoky (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 23.23.43 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 23.25.28 Quit homielowe () 23.27.09 Join hd [0] (i=jd@unaffiliated/helldragon) 23.27.31 Join ThibG [0] (n=thib@abo-108-239-68.guy.modulonet.fr) 23.27.38 # Err... 23.27.58 # I've bricked my D2! tcc didn't found it, but it's broken now! 23.28.29 # * linuxstb thought ThibG was going to sleep... 23.28.48 # I'm not :) 23.28.50 Quit dabujo_ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 23.29.41 # * jhMikeS thinks something's keeping ThibG awake 23.29.58 # * bluebrother suspects it being a D2 23.30.06 # Ok, my D2 boots, with the magic little button 23.30.27 # * linuxstb suspects it might not in fact be bricked... 23.30.37 # however, tcctool don't find it 23.31.00 # yep :) 23.31.09 # What OS are you using? 23.31.23 # linux ( debian testing ) 23.32.37 # When you attach your D2 in usb-boot mode, do you see it appear in dmesg? Does "lsusb -v" show it? 23.33.59 # oh, root sees it, not my normal user 23.35.19 # Running it with root, I have : [ERR] usb_set_configuration failed (-110) 23.35.32 Quit mcuelenaere (Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)) 23.38.01 # unplugging/plugging works 23.39.05 Join cakofony [0] (n=cakofony@rrcs-70-62-125-133.midsouth.biz.rr.com) 23.39.10 Quit BlakeJohnson86 ("Leaving.") 23.39.44 # I just bought an ipod nano 3rd generation with a broken screen for $5, is there any way to get rockbox working on it? 23.40.21 # What is this supposed to say after « Sum: 2E48F11 » ? 23.40.25 # From what I read, there isnt, but I saw a vid on youtube of somebody with it working 23.40.38 Join homielowe [0] (n=eric_j_l@66.183.89.40) 23.41.13 # cakofony: what you read is correct 23.41.14 Quit ZincAlloy ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 23.41.50 # gevaerts: is there anything I could use that reads out song names for me? How should I use it w/o the screen? 23.42.06 # I can use it how it is, just like a shuffle... 23.42.09 # cakofony: blind and hoping you hit the correct menu 23.42.41 # lol 23.43.02 Join jhulst [0] (n=jhulst@unaffiliated/jhulst) 23.43.53 # oh, nice, I have RockBox working :) 23.44.02 # I'll try it, good bye :) 23.46.05 # Hm, before I leave... Is rockbox supposed to be bootable without USB? 23.47.00 Quit homielowe () 23.47.58 Quit bluebrother ("leaving") 23.49.33 Part cakofony 23.52.17 Quit ThibG ("Quitte") 23.55.12 # jhMikeS: well, feel free to comment on the task 23.55.25 # i haven't really tried the patch yet either 23.55.45 # ahh, you have, i see 23.55.58 # hehe 23.56.09 # a couple times