--- Log for 27.04.108 Server: leguin.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 25 days and 18 hours ago 00.00.11 Quit futurist2 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00.02.06 Join cbr|w [0] (n=cbr@212.98.160.130) 00.06.08 Join futurist2 [0] (n=phileas@CPE0013464a03d5-CM00111ae6c2c0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) 00.06.48 Quit davina (Remote closed the connection) 00.08.22 Join fyre^OS [0] (n=fyre@cpe-68-173-171-53.nyc.res.rr.com) 00.11.11 Quit domonoky (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 00.17.52 Quit fyrestorm (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00.18.09 Quit futurist (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00.18.14 Quit CyBergRind|w (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00.18.34 Join futurist [0] (n=phileas@CPE00134645d9ab-CM001371142bc8.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) 00.26.58 Quit futurist2 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00.32.19 Join futurist2 [0] (n=phileas@CPE00134645d95b-CM0011aea49e8e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) 00.38.24 Join juzz [0] (n=juzz@static230-179.adsl.no) 00.38.28 # hi ppl 00.39.04 # how is the development on the Samsung P2 goind? 00.40.30 # You can probably find the most up to date information in the forum thread about it 00.42.15 # could you link me? im not that good looking up at the rockbox forum 00.42.29 Quit futurist (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00.43.01 # It's in the "New Ports" section. Each port in progress has a thread there 00.44.50 Join Kamilah [0] (n=Kamilah@67-85-21-190.adsl.terra.cl) 00.45.04 # ok.. thank you 00.45.12 Part Kamilah 00.47.51 # no news about rockbox for P2 on the forums.. :( 00.48.02 # i really do want rockbox.. 00.48.17 # Then there probably is no progress unfortunately... 00.49.44 # are you one of the developers of rockbox.. ? 00.49.52 Join simonrvn [0] (i=simon@unaffiliated/simonrvn) 00.50.09 # Yes. 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Is this patch ok to upload? http://130.89.160.166/rockbox/rockbox-multilibs-arm-elf-gcc-4.0.3.diff 10.58.01 Join futurist [0] (n=phileas@CPE00134645d9ab-CM001371142bc8.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) 11.00.43 Join Mathiasdm [0] (n=Mathias@78-22-5-158.access.telenet.be) 11.01.14 Join DerDome [0] (n=DerDome@dslb-082-083-239-064.pools.arcor-ip.net) 11.01.50 # markun: Why do we need big-endian arm targets? 11.04.13 Join desowin [0] (n=desowin@atheme/member/desowin) 11.06.51 Join davina [0] (n=davina@cpc1-sout6-0-0-cust616.sotn.cable.ntl.com) 11.08.32 Join bertrik [0] (n=bertrik@127-013-045-062.dynamic.caiway.nl) 11.09.12 Quit futurist2 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 11.09.25 Join futurist2 [0] (n=phileas@CPE00134645d95b-CM0011aea49e8e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) 11.12.06 Join hannesd [0] (n=light@p5B160579.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 11.13.57 Join domonoky [0] (n=Domonoky@rockbox/developer/domonoky) 11.15.40 # linuxstb: because the meizu bootloader expects our code to be big-endian. 11.16.17 Nick fxb is now known as fxb__ (n=felixbru@h1252615.stratoserver.net) 11.16.24 # markun: default_interrupt() i mean (look in any of the system-target .c files) 11.16.30 Join stripwax [0] (n=Miranda@87-194-34-169.bethere.co.uk) 11.16.35 Join herrwaldo [0] (n=waldo@ip-81-11-208-110.dsl.scarlet.be) 11.17.03 # linuxstb: do you think is it possible to just have the first branch in the interrupt and the first instruction it jumps 11.17.20 # be big-endian and then switch to little-endian mode? 11.18.01 # (sorry for the strange sentence, was editing it and pressed enter by accident) 11.18.17 # JdGordon: thanks 11.19.21 Quit futurist (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 11.19.28 Join futurist [0] (n=phileas@CPE00134645d959-CM0012c9a9ae36.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) 11.22.53 # markun: Maybe. I'm thinking that maybe some of the asm-optimised ARM code will be assuming little-endian, so it could complicate things to support both modes. I don't know though. 11.23.04 Quit amiconn (" blb") 11.24.02 Join ender` [0] (i=krneki@foo.eternallybored.org) 11.24.21 # linuxstb: that's also what I think 11.25.00 # But maybe there is a reason Meizu chose big-endian mode... 11.25.02 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 11.25.20 # for now I'll just compile my meizu testcode in big-endian and then we can try to work around it later 11.25.41 # Yes, it's probably too early to decide. 11.25.45 # maybe they chose big-endian mode because the calmrisc is also big endian 11.25.57 # Ah, that would make sense. 11.26.17 # Do they share RAM? 11.26.40 # they have some memory mapped registers to communicate 11.26.56 # but I didn't really look into it yet 11.30.19 Quit futurist2 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 11.42.13 Join gevaerts [0] (n=fg@rockbox/developer/gevaerts) 11.43.32 Quit desowin (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 11.49.15 Quit miepchen^schlaf () 11.55.42 # linuxstb, I'm extremely confused with the start of a firmware, LDR PC, =0x20000060, an unconditional jump to SDRAM, I don't get it, how can the sdram be setup and working? 11.57.17 # luck ? 11.57.19 # It's initialised by the boot-rom code embedded in the tcc SoC 11.57.21 # * gevaerts runs away 11.57.54 # Where does the SDRAM config value come from and how is the code copied to SDRAM? 11.58.26 # I can't see anything like that in the chip datasheet. 11.58.45 # I don't know how it happens in NAND boot mode, but in the USB boot mode (i.e. tcctool), it's transferred over USB to the device as part of the header. 11.59.03 # ali_as: BTW, what target are you investigating? 11.59.31 # This is on my K3, but also on some poor chaps iriver x20 came in yesterday having bricked it. 12.00.17 # Couldn't use tcctool as we couldn't find an SDRAM config value to use. 12.00.32 # None of the existing ones worked? 12.00.58 # Some devices have different USB PIDs in usb boot mode, so you would need to edit tcctool to try them. 12.01.13 # The chip is an 8200. b051. 12.02.20 # I've looked at trying to make a generic value using the datasheet and guessed numbers but hard to come up with plausable values for sdram refersh rates. 12.03.36 # I think he's damaged the circuitboard trying to solder a switch to the bootstrap points (His last email this morning) so he may not be able to try anything else. 12.04.03 # But infuriating the firmware doesn't seem to contain the sdram value. 12.09.04 # nanok, about the sansa v2's, I don't know what exactly the current stumbling block is, as far as I can see on bagders site lack of recovery mode could be it 12.09.37 # What's tcctool? 12.10.09 # J-23: A tool that communicates with Telechips CPUs in "usb boot mode" 12.10.22 # linuxstb: thanks. 12.13.25 Join DerPapst [0] (n=Der_Paps@p5B23E8E1.dip.t-dialin.net) 12.13.49 # the ifp sim isnt being built anymore? 12.14.48 # right 12.20.32 Join futurist2 [0] (n=phileas@CPE0013464a03d5-CM00111ae6c2c0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) 12.22.59 Quit gregzx ("ChatZilla 0.9.81 [Firefox 2.0.0.14/2008040413]") 12.26.12 Join dabujo [0] (i=xx@p4FDB3CEA.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 12.33.33 Quit futurist (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 12.33.47 Join futurist [0] (n=phileas@CPE00134645d98f-CM0012c90feb0c.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) 12.41.56 Quit futurist2 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 12.43.56 Join futurist2 [0] (n=phileas@CPE00134645d95b-CM0011aea49e8e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) 12.51.44 Join borges [0] (n=bruges@brln-4d0c0d48.pool.mediaWays.net) 12.51.48 Quit borges (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 12.55.31 Quit futurist (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 12.55.38 Join futurist [0] (n=phileas@CPE00134645d9ab-CM001371142bc8.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) 12.57.28 Quit Mathiasdm ("Yuuw!") 12.57.51 Join Mathiasdm [0] (n=Mathias@vpnj089.ugent.be) 12.58.20 Quit Mathiasdm (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 13.01.05 Join Mathiasdm [0] (n=Mathias@78-22-5-158.access.telenet.be) 13.02.26 Quit Mathiasdm (Client Quit) 13.04.57 Quit futurist2 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 13.05.26 Join futurist2 [0] (n=phileas@CPE00134645d9ab-CM001371142bc8.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) 13.07.59 Join Mathiasdm [0] (n=Mathias@78-22-5-158.access.telenet.be) 13.16.30 Quit futurist (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 13.16.33 Join instinct- [0] (n=none@p5B0CBBB2.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 13.16.38 # hi everyone 13.17.58 # Anyone knows if it is possible to find out if a Sansa280 is v1 or v2 by the model number ? been googling since a while without getting smarter 13.18.32 # Maybe it's possible, but I never heard of a way to do this 13.18.34 # do you have the device in your hand? 13.18.44 Join amiconn [50] (n=jens@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 13.19.30 Join Lear [0] (i=chatzill@rockbox/developer/lear) 13.19.40 # sadly not. Am looking into buying a new player as my elio is slowly dying, so i was looking to find a way to buy a v1 as i'd love to use rockbox 13.19.52 # * n1s sees great things on the frontpage :) 13.19.57 Join krz|afk [0] (n=irc_by@turbo.sml.by) 13.20.52 # * gevaerts agrees 13.22.54 # jhMikeS is a machine 13.23.38 Join Arathis [0] (n=doerk@p508A431D.dip.t-dialin.net) 13.25.04 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 13.25.17 Join miepchen^schlaf [0] (n=miepchen@p54BF4116.dip.t-dialin.net) 13.27.02 # hm. The v2 has microSDHC and the vendor lists MicroSD only and no audible support...but might be just copy/paste *sigh* 13.28.45 # instinct-: you cant really tell unless the device is in your hand, sadly 13.29.18 Join desowin [0] (n=desowin@atheme/member/desowin) 13.29.33 # domonoky: you really around? 13.29.48 # * domonoky nods 13.30.25 # according to the sandisk forums the packaging is different. so i might switch onlineshop and pay a tad more to talk to a sales person before hmm 13.31.02 # The packaging is different, but some of the packages are mixed up 13.32.15 # dang 13.32.27 # domonoky: saw your edits on the DevConEuro page. Do you need more info about how to get to the location etc.? 13.32.29 # so i might just risk it and send it back if it's the wrong one i guess. 13.33.15 # Luckily laws allow a reasonless return with moneyback when ordering online 13.34.04 # Why reasonless ? "I don't want SDHC" is a perfectly good reason :) 13.34.09 # pixelma: i think i will find it.. there are already directions from the main-station to DevCon, and google maps also helps.. :-) 13.37.12 # lol 13.37.34 # domonoky: as you wish. If your train takes the east-west route through Berlin it might be a bit more comfortable to only get out at Ostbahnhof but Hauptbahnhof is quite ok in any case. 13.38.03 Quit Lear (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 13.38.19 # probably west > east though :) 13.38.40 # jup :-) 13.39.17 # jhMikeS: nice commit! :-) 13.39.53 # jhMikeS: ping... 13.40.10 # oddly enough there are two different product codes for the 8GB one, tho i didnt find any info what is actually different. 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(I can't find one in the sim) 14.16.23 Quit Mouser_X (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 14.16.54 # I only know that it's not optical (don't have a Recorder V1 myself) 14.17.07 # OK 14.17.20 # it's not? I thought it was... :-) 14.17.26 # I'm doing a quick ammendment to the manual to include the H1x0 optical out setting 14.17.30 # and yeah I have one somewhere... 14.17.40 # optical? 14.17.47 # And I want to check if I need to mention ot for the recorder or not as well :) 14.17.52 # well, I've never used it 14.17.54 # s/ot/it 14.18.08 # amiconn uses it, so... 14.18.11 # I've never used it, but *someone* once said it was coax 14.18.17 # And I seem to recall it was someone who'd actually know 14.18.36 # The question is mainly is there a menu option for it. If there is, it should be in the manual and I might as well add it while I'm at it 14.18.46 # It's coax, and it's always on 14.18.57 # amiconn: Thanks very much :) 14.19.37 # It costs practically no power to leave it enabled (unlike the LED for optical s/pdif), so an option is unnecessary 14.20.07 # * amiconn uses it quite often at home 14.20.44 # I use the optical on my h1x0 quite a bit at home too 14.21.36 # How do I do a diff of one file only? 14.21.51 # svn diff [file] 14.21.58 # thanks 14.26.32 Join MU{lappy} [0] (n=Militant@pool-72-70-183-80.hrbgpa.fios.verizon.net) 14.26.48 # pixelma: Seeing as you are here, fancy a quick manual patch: http://www.aeparker.com/rockbox/optical.diff I used opt{h1xx} as I couldn't spot one for optical output 14.33.17 # BigBambi: spdif_power is the feature you want 14.33.29 # amiconn: Ah thanks 14.33.33 # I'll change it 14.34.27 # BigBambi: sorry, seems I can't do that ATM - not at home and I don't have access to my remote "environment" currently 14.34.42 # Don't worry, I'll stick it on flyspray 14.34.44 # build environment that is 14.35.59 Quit DerPapst (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 14.36.24 Join DerPapst [0] (n=Der_Paps@p5B23E8E1.dip.t-dialin.net) 14.38.59 # Is it just me, or are the FS rss2 feeds for opened tasks and edited tasks the same since a few days ? 14.39.57 # BigBambi: in case you wonder, should be one of the UseOptions that you can use for 'opt'ing that's automatically generated from the languages' features.txt (you should have a features.tex in the manual build directory somewhere which list's them) 14.40.18 # eh... 14.40.22 # *lists 14.40.28 # pixelma: thanks 14.40.38 Part J-23 14.41.20 Join J-23 [0] (n=aldwulf@a105.net128.okay.pl) 14.41.34 # do any targets allow you to set a 0.5dB volume increment? or are all only in 1dB steps? 14.41.59 # neither, afaik 14.42.03 # http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/8941 if anyone fancies a quick manual thang 14.42.20 # Most are in 1dB steps, but some are in 1.5dB steps afaik 14.44.12 Join Arathis [0] (n=doerk@p508A431D.dip.t-dialin.net) 14.45.11 # * gevaerts test-builds the manual 14.45.31 Join miepchen^schlaf_ [0] (n=miepchen@p54BF4116.dip.t-dialin.net) 14.46.02 # BigBambi: "allow digital connection" or "allow a digital connection" ? 14.46.33 # er, allow a digitial connection or allow digital connections 14.46.33 Join futurist2 [0] (n=phileas@CPE00134645e8d1-CM0012c9ab589a.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) 14.46.37 Join faemir [0] (n=faemir@88-106-220-26.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) 14.46.39 # but the first is better 14.46.52 # * BigBambi slaps head 14.46.55 # * gevaerts assumes that you can only have one connection at a time 14.46.56 # gevaerts: thanks 14.47.00 # gevaerts: yep 14.47.17 # but allow digital connections could also be used in a general sense 14.47.24 # but the first is better 14.47.27 # Actually the Player is such a case. The DAC only allows 1.5dB steps (and at the lowest levels even 3dB steps). 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However, I don't think just using several smaller steps will get rid of clicks/pops 15.07.24 # crikey! 15.07.51 # It may reduce them though. Making the transition click free requires zero-crossing detection and/or smooth gain change 15.09.34 # JdGordon: could you have a look at the touchscreen keymap changes in FS#8708 and see if they're ok for your music:wardrobe? ;-) 15.10.46 # yep, although I rekon go for it and we can fix them later if needed 15.12.32 # bin chop chop... :/ 15.13.17 Quit faemir ("Leaving") 15.13.55 Join faemir [0] (n=daniel@88-106-220-26.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) 15.17.19 Join futurist [0] (n=phileas@CPE00134645d969-CM000f9fa62b04.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) 15.23.19 Quit Mathiasdm ("Yuuw!") 15.25.07 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 15.28.13 Quit futurist2 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 15.28.17 Join futurist2 [0] (n=phileas@CPE00134645d9ab-CM001371142bc8.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) 15.32.58 Join einhirn_ [0] (n=Miranda@p5B030674.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 15.36.43 Quit einhirn_ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 15.37.59 Join mr_pink [0] (n=pete@pjrh2.caths.cam.ac.uk) 15.38.33 Quit futurist (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 15.38.58 Join futurist [0] (n=phileas@CPE00134645d9ab-CM001371142bc8.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) 15.40.11 # n1s: hah, nice green delta row indeed! 15.41.43 # oh bloody hell... /me didnt see the ci failed message :( 15.41.52 # wondering where the heck a commit got to :p 15.43.27 Quit houbysoft (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 15.49.23 Quit futurist2 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 15.49.25 Join futurist2 [0] (n=phileas@CPE00134645e8d1-CM0012c9ab589a.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) 15.50.01 Quit Hillshum ("ChatZilla 0.9.81 [Firefox 2.0.0.14/2008040413]") 15.56.56 # linuxstb: back again 15.57.10 # * JdGordon confused 15.57.29 Join houbysoft [0] (n=houbysof@30.255.broadband5.iol.cz) 15.58.45 Quit futurist (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 16.02.16 Join futurist [0] (n=phileas@CPE00134645e8d1-CM0012c9ab589a.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) 16.09.24 Join keenox [0] (i=keenox@89.47.115.83) 16.14.19 Join Nico_P [50] (n=nicolas@rockbox/developer/NicoP) 16.14.51 Quit futurist2 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 16.18.01 Join nplus [0] (n=npl@141.25.globcom.net) 16.18.47 Quit DerPapst (Nick collision from services.) 16.18.58 Join DerPapst_ [0] (n=Der_Paps@p5B23E8E1.dip.t-dialin.net) 16.20.57 Quit Nico_P (Remote closed the connection) 16.21.11 Join futurist2 [0] (n=phileas@CPE00134645d959-CM0012c9a9ae36.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) 16.31.29 # Buschel: I was wondering why there is a need for an accessory power setting - doesn't the Apple firmware do that automatically? 16.33.36 Quit FOAD ("I'll be back") 16.33.39 Quit futurist (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 16.33.46 # linuxstb: I think so, I do not know whether this power supply is switched by the OF or if it's always on 16.34.12 Join futurist [0] (n=phileas@CPE00134645d9ab-CM001371142bc8.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) 16.34.23 # linuxstb: also I wanted to have the significant power savings in snv for all non-accessory users 16.34.57 # linuxstb: of course we should try to find a automatic solution for the future and remove the setting then 16.34.59 # It just seems the wrong approach to me - unless we know that it can't be determined automatically. 16.35.18 Join FOAD [0] (n=dok@dinah.blub.net) 16.35.19 # We normally avoid these kinds of temporary hacks. 16.37.24 # How significant is the power saving? i.e. how much does it add to a runtime time? 16.37.31 # well, jsut thought it would be a good idea to have the power savings for the users until the automatic detection has been found. 16.37.40 # ~1.5mA on my 5.5G 30GB 16.37.57 # problem is that such a solution kind of lessens the chances of a proper fix surfacing 16.38.00 # What's that in terms of a runtime test? 16.38.53 # about 30-50min 16.39.14 Join jpt9 [0] (n=jpt9@machamp-229.dynamic.rpi.edu) 16.39.18 # Hey. 16.39.31 # What exactly does the "Custom View" database option do? 16.39.39 # It just brings up a blank menu on my Sansa. 16.39.50 # preglow/linuxstb: if not wanted the patch can be easily removed 16.40.23 # Buschel: I don't know what others think, but if you had asked before committing, I would have said not to commit.... 16.41.07 # well, i'm a bit torn on what to think. the ipods are hard targets to reverse-engineer 16.41.30 # and this does provide a battery usage benefit, which we much appreciate 16.41.57 # now that it's in, i think it can stay in, but a proper solution would be very nice 16.43.00 # I just think that the ability to save that power should motivate someone to do it properly. Now that motivation is far less... But if others are happy, I'm not going to argue about it. 16.43.26 # Do we know what accessories (which work anyway in Rockbox) need that power? 16.43.33 # in fact, my motiviation to do it the right way is not less than before :) 16.43.56 # any idea how retailos deals with accessory power? 16.45.02 # linuxstb: i only know about the mentioned FM-transmitter for sure. i've borrowed some a2dp adaptor for reverse engineering. 16.45.12 # * Buschel hopes this adaptors behaves similar 16.45.21 # a2dp? 16.45.52 # some bluretooth profile -> Advanced Audio Distribution Profile 16.45.59 # *bluetooth 16.47.00 # for now I know that GPIO-detection only works when power suppy is active and that the accessory detect in the PCF-chip does not seem to be used 16.47.12 Quit futurist2 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 16.47.23 # as the accessories are codec via resistors I guess that there si some ADC involved 16.47.29 # *is 16.48.09 # I seem to recall something about 16.48.14 # oops... 16.48.42 # I seem to recall something about devices requesting power via the Apple Accessory Protocol, but I could be mistaken - I can't find reference to it here - http://ipodlinux.org/Apple_Accessory_Protocol 16.48.44 # * Buschel forgot to mention that his a2dp adaptor does not give any changes in GPIO even if the power supply is active 17.20.39 Nick Horschti is now known as Horscht (n=Horscht@xbmc/user/horscht) 17.22.37 Join futurist2 [0] (n=phileas@CPE00134645d98f-CM0012c90feb0c.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) 17.25.11 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 17.28.06 Join Mathiasdm [0] (n=Mathias@78-22-5-158.access.telenet.be) 17.29.18 Join ap0 [0] (i=kvirc@nfb68-1-88-169-81-101.fbx.proxad.net) 17.33.20 Join bluebrother [0] (n=Dom@rockbox/staff/bluebrother) 17.33.50 # domonoky: what do you think about FS#8939? 17.34.19 # * domonoky will take a look... 17.34.46 Quit futurist (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 17.34.50 Join futurist [0] (n=phileas@CPE00134645e8d1-CM0012c9ab589a.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) 17.35.42 # * bluebrother notices that the OP added another comment ... 17.38.10 # * domonoky thinks such thinks doesnt belong into rbutil... maybe ipodpatcher could have a switch to override the safety checks, but that should only for advanced users, so no gui for it.. :-) 17.38.16 # well, that went well ! 17.38.22 # at last I score some points 17.38.22 # s/thinks/things 17.43.48 Quit futurist2 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 17.50.10 Join DerPapst [0] (n=Der_Paps@p5B23BE01.dip.t-dialin.net) 17.51.36 Quit ap0 ("Bye.") 17.53.15 Join [Viaken] [0] (n=david@adsl-153-153-133.cha.bellsouth.net) 17.53.38 # * bluebrother just added another comment to that task 17.53.50 # * linuxstb too... 17.54.05 Join bughunter2 [0] (n=Jelle@ip565fbeaa.direct-adsl.nl) 17.54.20 Join ThibG [0] (n=thib@abo-108-239-68.guy.modulonet.fr) 17.55.06 # <[Viaken]> I'd like to convert this wavpack file to speex in Linux. How do I decode the wavpack? 17.55.34 # [Viaken], it'd be better to ask your distribution's channel, as this isn't really rockbox-related 17.57.54 Quit Arathis ("Bye, bye") 17.59.36 # Too bad I can't try touchscreen's driver... The bootloader says "Read failed (image)" 17.59.46 # (Cowon D2, SVN version) 18.00.15 # ThibG: you need to read the Known Problems on the CowonD2Info wiki page 18.00.37 # unzip rockbox.zip again, boot the OF, then try again 18.01.22 # oh, ok 18.03.14 # <[Viaken]> krazykit: I suppose, sorry. 18.03.29 # <[Viaken]> Just thought there'd be more chance of someone knowing in here. 18.03.50 # [Viaken]: you can try #rockbox-community thoguh 18.03.58 # *though 18.04.45 # <[Viaken]> ah 18.04.58 # wow, windows is nice. Fatal errors during compiling rbutil using msvs -- stdbool.h and stdint.h are not found :/ 18.05.34 # as long as compiling rbutil doesn't lead to a BSOD.... 18.05.34 # ok, it works :) 18.06.48 # no, building isn't successful due to that errors. 18.07.16 # * bluebrother considers such a compiler environment broken 18.08.18 Quit instinct- () 18.08.26 # why do you want to compile it with msvs anyway? 18.08.31 # oh, the displayed time isn't the same that the official firmware's one at all :P 18.08.52 Join austriancoder [0] (n=austrian@rockbox/developer/austriancoder) 18.09.16 # Hi all.. If somebody can find to check my patch, I would be very happy http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/7138?getfile=16491 18.10.02 # DerPapst: well, I'm interested in the impacts of doing so. And it's working without patching Qt now. 18.10.52 # ah. 18.11.31 Join pandrew [0] (n=andrew@79.114.47.102) 18.11.33 Quit DerPapst_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 18.13.02 # it also seems building is noticably faster than with MinGW. Not that it's too much of an issue. 18.13.44 # the touchscreen works fine, it'll be better if used like a mouse, but it's very usable now :) 18.14.01 # austriancoder: it seems your patch assumes a target will have software tone controls if they aren't in hardware 18.14.07 # bluebrother: rbutils Http cant cope with URLs with whitespaces in the query... the query needs a "toPercentEncoding(query)" .. 18.14.08 # i don't know if that always will hold 18.14.39 # domonoky: hmm -- interesting. I thought I fixed the whitespace issue recently. 18.15.34 # the URL path is percentEncoded, the query isnt.. do you want to fix ? or should i ? .. 18.15.37 # ThibG: right now it's a good compromise that lets you use most of the plugins etc. the clock works for some people (me!) but not others. it'll be fixed eventually... 18.16.15 # shotofadds, ok... But it's quite strange... Shouldn't be all D2 quite similar? 18.16.32 # who knows ;-) 18.16.37 # I'll take a look. 18.18.37 # preglow: for the current devices its okay.. 18.18.47 Nick fxb__ is now known as fxb (n=felixbru@h1252615.stratoserver.net) 18.19.29 # austriancoder: 'd like it better if you could link the comment and not the patch, makes it easier to grasp the idea what the patch should do 18.20.37 Join futurist2 [0] (n=phileas@CPE00134645d959-CM0012c9a9ae36.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) 18.20.37 # It's maybe because of the official firmware's version? I have 3.54... 18.21.43 # ThibG: nope, myself and preglow are both using v4.55. mine works (partly) but his doesn't... 18.22.08 # ok 18.22.39 # * shotofadds is glad to have got some green back :) 18.22.57 # pixelma: okay.. the patch introduces AUDIOHW_CAPS which are used to get known what the audio codec can do in hardware, e.g. set bass. Now audiohw.h converts this CAPS into defines. These defines will be used in sound.c to see if we must use dsp to change e.g bass or if we can do it in hardware. This patch also moves mas35xx specific code for bass und treble into /firmware/drivers/audio/mas35xx.c and it fixes an probelm with 18.22.57 # wm8751 that we can use current_xxx * 10 in sound.c for every target 18.23.04 # shotofadds: does tcctooling rockbox.bin work reliably for you? sometimes i seem to have broken nand access 18.23.31 Quit bughunter2 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 18.23.53 # can you describe what you mean by 'broken nand access'? 18.25.03 Join purpleposeidon [0] (n=neptuna@adsl-75-62-6-60.dsl.snfc21.sbcglobal.net) 18.25.09 # What's the best mp3 player to get? 18.25.15 # shotofadds: no theme gets loaded, no visible directory structure, etc 18.25.46 # hm... is UMS supposed to work (read only, yeah) at the moment? 18.25.54 # no 18.26.03 # you should expect little to work at the moment, heh 18.26.05 Join mtrckbx [0] (n=4bafe6a4@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-2a45ef180ae595af) 18.26.20 # preglow, ok :) 18.26.27 # In terms of ease-to-install rockbox and functionality? 18.26.28 # preglow: it's probably "the usual" problem, but because you're not running the bootloader it doesn't display the errors. 18.26.40 # shotofadds: ahh, makes sense 18.26.54 # eg, no CRC check on the main image 18.27.12 # btw 18.27.15 # I really need to do some work on the NAND driver... 18.27.43 # purpleposeidon: Depends what functionality (in terms of what the hardware can do) you want... 18.28.04 # however, your work is impressive and I'm afraid I can't contribute to it :( 18.28.21 # shotofadds: what is the boot procedure thus far? internal boot rom -> firmware image, which jumps straight to rockbox check before doing anything else? 18.28.25 # But I'll try Rockbox from time to time :) 18.28.46 # * domonoky has the first part for AlbumArt in rbutil running... :-) (i can now fetch and display AA images from Amazon) 18.28.55 # Anybody else having trouble downloading the iRIver firmware (nonUSversions) for the iRiver H320 from the website suggested in the manual? The manuak claims that sevral version are supported, but the only file file I can download successfully is version 1.31K (which does not seem to be supported). 18.29.01 # preglow: yep, that's right. 18.29.12 # shotofadds: so nothing in the way of hardware gets touched before we're run, really? 18.29.51 Quit Buschel (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 18.30.02 Join stuntmaster [0] (n=stunt296@bas3-montreal45-1178044893.dsl.bell.ca) 18.30.10 # Hi. 18.30.10 # preglow: not unless the boot ROM does any initialisation, but I'd have thought that's unlikely. 18.30.17 # agreed 18.30.22 # Got a question. 18.30.47 # domonoky: do you really think such a feature should be in rbutil? Wouldn't it be better to leave that for some media player software (like amarok ...) and just convert the images? 18.31.00 Quit futurist (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 18.31.11 # domonoky: Then I take back my comment about not adding ipod restore facilities to rbutil in order to keep things simple and focused... 18.31.29 # shotofadds: is the firmware located on the nand as well, or is there some other rom chip? 18.31.51 # shotofadds: oh, and btw, if i want to update the bootloader, i need only do the "1" stage of firmware updating, yeah? 18.31.53 # make it an albumart plugin for rbutil :-P 18.31.54 # there's a nand boot area at the end of the (first?) bank. the boot ROM loads it from there. 18.32.05 # yeah. 18.32.06 # When playing GBC roms, I switch to the "Menu"(which has Save Game, Load Game, Options) with the "Hold" key and then I take my iPod off "Hold" but I still can't move my cursor. The only thing I can do is lock it again or reboot with "Menu + Middle button". Any help? 18.32.35 # making it a plugin to rbutil would be possible.. at moment its still very expermimental.. 18.32.39 # mtrckbx: I managed to get H300(jp)_V129.zip about a month ago 18.32.43 # I'm out for the night now. Back tomorrow.... 18.33.15 # at moment its still very expermimental.. <-- What? GBC emulation? 18.33.37 # gevaerts, did you get it from one on the links suggested on the rockbox website? 18.33.45 # stuntmaster, that was aimed at someone else 18.33.50 # I know. 18.33.52 # >_> 18.33.56 # stuntmaster: no my Albumart experiments in rbutil.. 18.33.59 # linuxstb: btw, what happened to the idea to allow ipodpatcher converting from macpod to winpod? 18.34.03 # mtrckbx: good question. I might have got it by looking aroung on the iriver website 18.34.08 # bye, and thanks again :) 18.34.18 # Anyways, does anyone know how to fix my problem? 18.34.48 Quit shotofadds ("Leaving") 18.34.58 Quit ThibG ("Quitte") 18.35.14 # bluebrother: iirc it works for all iPods with a sectorsize of 512bytes 18.35.37 # linuxstb: if ipodpatcher can do a ipod restore, i may even include it into rbutil :-) 18.36.22 # ok gevaerts, thanks, I will poke around a bit on the iRiver website. In the meantime, anybody else having trouble with the links suggested in the IRIver h320 manual for the firmware download? I can't even get to the mirror. 18.36.59 # rasher's site seems to be down, yes 18.37.58 # mtrckbx: try http://www.iriver.com/support/down_view.asp?idx=767 18.40.57 # thanks gevaerts, i also went and found it myself. Does it matter which version I use (EU,JP,KR)? 18.41.56 # I don't think so, at least not if you only use rockbox 18.43.16 # I only intnend to use rockbox. I am assuming the others will not neccessarily be in english. 18.45.10 # I have 1.29J and it seems to be in english 18.45.29 # I would guess the EU version has a good chance of supporting English... 18.46.04 # * gevaerts just updated some of the links 18.47.20 Join davina^ [0] (n=davina@cpc1-sout6-0-0-cust616.sotn.cable.ntl.com) 18.50.39 # gevaerts, thanks, I will either try the J version or the EU version. The only reason I was steering away from the EU version is that there is a warning about incorrect version idetification on the Rockbox website, but it seems like the file may have just been named incorrectly? 18.52.38 # No idea. I removed that bit while updating the link just now though (that warning was 3 years old and the link changed...) 18.53.07 Join futurist [0] (n=phileas@CPE00134645d969-CM000f9fa62b04.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) 18.53.20 Quit davina (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 18.53.31 Nick [Viaken] is now known as Viaken (n=david@adsl-153-153-133.cha.bellsouth.net) 18.54.24 # * gevaerts decides to re-add that warning... The iriver website calls it 1.29 as well on most of the page 18.55.17 Quit keenox () 18.57.18 Join Mouser_X [0] (n=mouser_x@layl001.digis.net) 18.58.15 # Does the Cowon D2 have no real buttons? 18.58.43 # sure.. it has three 18.59.51 # labeled "-", "M" and "+" oh and it as hold and power on 3-state-button 19.00.29 # Is there a reason for fwpatcher being windows-only ? 19.01.02 # gevaerts: fwpatcher is outdated, use rbutil :-) 19.01.45 Quit Mathiasdm (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 19.01.52 # * gevaerts tries, but he will unset DISPLAY first :) 19.01.54 # i wonder because of the latest commit. for some modules it removes all buttons in a plugin and leaves a #elif CONFIG_KEYPAD == COWOND2_PAD stub there. 19.02.47 # maybe touchmaps will be used? 19.02.59 Quit ompaul (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 19.03.18 Quit futurist2 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 19.03.30 # they will but for example in flashlight.c it's just empty. that doesn't feel right 19.04.19 # gevaerts: there was a patch in the tracker for a command line fwpatcher on linux ... it basically is a few steps using scramble. 19.05.02 Join keanu [0] (n=keanu@unaffiliated/keanu) 19.05.30 Join futurist2 [0] (n=phileas@CPE00134645d969-CM000f9fa62b04.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) 19.05.32 # fwpatcher is nativ windows gui, the console way for patching involves 3 steps with scramble + ? .. dont know the exact details anymore.. 19.06.49 # * gevaerts decides to dislike rbutilqt 19.07.18 # Maybe it's fine for people who like GUIs, but... 19.07.29 # use the cli vresion :-P 19.07.31 # * domonoky invites gevaerts to improve it... 19.08.13 # there is also a rbtutil cli patch on the tracker.. but it isnt really finished.. 19.08.16 # domonoky: I'm probably the worst person to improve it. Other people won't like it any more then :) 19.08.59 # gevaerts: fwpatcher is windows only because winapi was the only gui programming i did when i wrote it 19.09.35 # preglow: good reason I guess :) 19.09.47 # gevaerts: what do you dislike about rbutil? 19.10.25 # fwpatcher was also fine with wine 19.11.28 # * bluebrother dislikes winapi 19.11.36 # especially after having some Qt work ;-) 19.12.13 # bluebrother: hard to say. It doesn't play really nice with my WM 19.12.30 # interesting. What WM are you using? 19.12.35 # bluebrother: but you're probably best of to disregard anything I say about GUIs... 19.12.39 # bluebrother: ion2 19.13.05 # hmm, never tried that. Maybe I should check it -- if only to have looked at it once ;-) 19.14.02 # One issue I have is that if I click "install bootloader", it opens a progress window, and then a dialog to tell me that the bootloader is already up to date 19.14.35 # But this dialog is bound to the main window, and by then the progress window is in front, so I don't see that dialog 19.15.17 Quit futurist (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 19.15.28 # * gevaerts should have disliked rbutil when bluebrother and domonoky were not around ;) 19.16.22 # sounds like something we should make nicer 19.16.53 # I'm not sure if that's easy to do properly 19.17.57 # at least it's good to know about this. IMO rbutil should work as good as possible regardless of WM or OS. 19.19.51 # gevaerts: Do other qt apps have similar issues for you? 19.19.55 # One solution could be to integrate the progress window in the main window 19.20.43 # linuxstb: hard to say. I don't often use qt apps 19.20.44 Join Lear [0] (i=chatzill@rockbox/developer/lear) 19.22.48 # gevaerts, all your previous help is much appreciated. I have followed the installation instructions to a T for my iRiver H320 yet when I rebooted it the IRiver spalsh screen is not presented. Is there a way to switch from one firmware to another. 19.22.55 # Another part of my dislike is just that it does things that I personally want cli tools for 19.23.31 # mtrckbx: I think you'll need someone else now. I have a h320, but I'm not a specialist on it 19.24.00 # mtrckbx: So Rockbox is working on your h320? 19.25.11 # Well, I am not sure, that is the problem. I loaded the Rockbox firmware and patched the iRvier firmware to include the bootloader but get no sign of Rockbox when I boot. 19.25.15 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 19.25.21 # So what do you see? 19.26.15 # A screen that showsthe number of folders/files the volume, etc. 19.26.52 # I've no idea what screen that is... I also don't own an H320 though... 19.27.19 Join futurist [0] (n=phileas@CPE00134645d95b-CM0011aea49e8e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) 19.28.18 Join rotator [0] (n=e@rockbox/developer/rotator) 19.28.35 Quit amiconn (" HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- The future of IRC") 19.28.47 Join midgey [0] (n=tjross@c-71-205-31-207.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) 19.29.39 # I am going to try the firmware upgrade again, I feel as though I saw some discussion of needing to do this twice? 19.30.00 # So you're still in the original iriver firmware? 19.30.11 # That did it, update firmware twice. 19.30.44 # Now I am presented with the Rockbox spalsh screen. 19.31.54 # H300s running the US firmware need to be flashed twice. If you are running Korean, European, or Japanese, flashing once is all that's needed. 19.32.13 Join ZincAlloy [0] (n=d9eedb0a@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-dcb6fb8e1102a551) 19.32.46 Join gevaerts_ [0] (n=fg@195-144-092-152.dyn.adsl.xs4all.be) 19.33.37 # domonoky: just added the percent encoding to httpget. I hope that class is getting mature now ;-) 19.33.50 # Got it midgey, thanks. I saw that information somewhere on the Rockbox website but not in the H320 instruction manual, I think that that info should probably be added somewhere it is possible that I just missed it though). 19.35.16 # Presumably the US firmware doesn't overwrite parts of the flash to preserve the DRM key. Once you've flashed to another firmware region, the firmware will flash the entire hex file. 19.38.03 # so, I want to add language_strings to the plugin API. language_strings is an array of pointers 19.38.16 Quit futurist2 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 19.38.54 # bluebrother: what do you think about separating gui and non-gui code in rbutil ? 19.38.54 # would i put "const unsigned char **language_strings;" at the end of the plugin_api struct in plugin.h? 19.39.17 # midgey: yes I'd say so 19.39.23 # domonoky: I was thinking about that myself. I hope the bootloader rework will get us somewhat into that direction 19.39.58 Join Nico_P [50] (n=nicolas@rockbox/developer/NicoP) 19.40.14 Quit faemir (Remote closed the connection) 19.40.22 # Bagder: and how would I add that to plugin.c? i keep getting warnings 19.40.49 # at some point (still quite a lot of work until then) create a folder "gui" and put everything that includes QtGui in that folder. All other classes should only rely on QtCore 19.41.31 # midgey: language_strings is a "extern unsigned char *language_strings[];" 19.41.38 # bluebrother: So a command-line version would still need Qt? 19.41.40 # bluebrother: yes, that would be nice 19.41.43 # so you should make the plugin struct member that same type 19.42.12 # linuxstb: yes, but only QtCore.. (everything uses QString and alike) 19.42.16 # linuxstb: yes, as all classes heavily rely on that. But only on the non-gui parts of Qt 19.43.01 # OK, but that doesn't sound like a nice abstraction of GUI code - if the non-gui code relies on the GUI toolkit... 19.43.33 # well, Qt isn't that much of a GUI toolkit anymore -- it has two parts, and you'll only need the non-gui one 19.43.35 # linuxstb: it relies on the non-gui part of Qt.. 19.44.41 # so you won't link against QtGui anymore -- no GUI parts in the binary :) 19.44.51 # What does QString do? Doesn't the C++ stdlib have a string object? 19.45.37 # * linuxstb isn't sure what he's arguing about... He can't change Qt... 19.45.41 # QString has much more member functions (convinience) and it integrates into Qts Object model.. 19.46.21 Quit gevaerts (Nick collision from services.) 19.46.25 Nick gevaerts_ is now known as gevaerts (n=fg@195-144-092-152.dyn.adsl.xs4all.be) 19.46.33 Part pixelma 19.47.02 # also a good thing of using QtCore is the multiplatform ability... 19.47.09 # * gevaerts thinks that if you use Qt, it makes sense to use it all the way 19.47.40 Join kkurbjun [0] (n=kkurbjun@c-67-174-104-139.hsd1.co.comcast.net) 19.50.06 Quit jpt9 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 19.51.42 # bluebrother: where do you think is work need to seperate GUI from core more ? 19.54.31 # some of the install functionality is still quite mixed. We should have something like the zip installer class -- but on more places. 19.54.50 # like creating a class that only does the talkfile stuff. And another one for the GUI 19.55.47 Join neptunepink [0] (n=neptuna@adsl-75-62-6-60.dsl.snfc21.sbcglobal.net) 19.55.59 # * domonoky thought he had a Non-gui talkfile creator... 19.56.13 # * bluebrother checks the talkfile stuff to prevent telling nonsense 19.56.56 # * domonoky sees that talkfile.h and voicefile.h only includes QtCore.. :-) 19.57.00 # ok, I take the talkfile back. Seems I mixed things up :( 19.57.16 Join futurist2 [0] (n=phileas@CPE00134645d9ab-CM001371142bc8.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) 19.57.21 # i just want something to work on, so no worries.. :-) 19.57.42 Join Yesil [0] (n=kisfm@88.245.231.246) 19.57.47 # ah, that's the reason you're doing AA stuff? ;-) 19.57.47 Part Yesil 19.58.04 # :-) 19.58.14 # * gevaerts is looking around in rbutil and got stuck :( 19.58.38 # hmm, browsing the rbutil source with vs2005 is neat -- if you have a project file 19.59.03 # I can't get out of the speex settings dialog 19.59.24 # gevaerts: tell us where you got stuck.. :-) 19.59.45 # we should make the voice stuff less configureable -- you can't use mp3 clips on players except the archos anymore 20.00.16 # I chose the Rockbox Speex Encoder and clicked on "Configure Enc". It opened the speex settings dialog, but none of the buttons in there work 20.00.48 # * gevaerts suspects some weird Qt<->ion2 interaction 20.00.52 Quit midkay ("Leaving") 20.01.03 # * domonoky got the same yesterday, it was because i used Qt4.4 dlls with a Qt4.3 non-static rbutil... 20.01.44 # Well the good news is I fixed what i broke and now plugins work on the sim again (hurray!). So far, strings accessed with the ID2P() macro work but the str() macro doesn't work yet. So basically, I have localized splashes in plugins. 20.02.29 Quit suom1 (Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer)) 20.02.32 Join tessarakt [0] (n=jens@e180072165.adsl.alicedsl.de) 20.02.56 # Since my build-ninja skills are lacking, dep-plugins needs to be editted by hand and my code is scattered with random junk and debug stuff 20.03.02 Join petur [50] (n=petur@rockbox/developer/petur) 20.03.07 # * gevaerts has only one version of qt installed, and built against that one 20.05.26 # Making rbutil use only one window with lots of different panels would solve all my problems, but it would probably be horrible on smaller screens and have a worse UI for "normal" WM users 20.06.17 Join midkay [0] (n=midkay@rockbox/developer/midkay) 20.06.31 Join ompaul [0] (n=ompaul@gnewsense/friend/ompaul) 20.07.44 Quit purpleposeidon (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 20.08.24 # domonoky: if you're looking for work, you could pick up the cli again ;-) 20.08.47 Quit futurist (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 20.08.55 # maybe put it in a subfolder "cli". I guess you'll find out where more separation is needed. 20.09.24 # and once that is done we can move all gui stuff to a "gui" folder and leave the pure classes in the main folder. 20.10.35 # true, maybe i should pic up the cli version again.. trying to make a better cli ui... 20.11.07 Join faemir [0] (n=daniel@88-106-220-26.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) 20.11.41 # you could leave out the bootloader stuff for now until I get the rework finished. 20.11.46 Join suom1 [0] (i=suom1@irssi.mobi) 20.12.23 # I just tried with metacity. It gets stuck in the same plave 20.12.26 # s/v/c 20.14.47 # one other thing I think we could consider is putting some default configurations on the player -- i.e. present the user some presets (like "Ipod-like usage", "file based", "database useage") and create a configuration based on that. 20.15.04 # maybe also include the language setting -- could get reused in the voice dialogs. 20.16.27 Join Mathiasdm [0] (n=Mathias@vpnb047.ugent.be) 20.18.13 Join naes [0] (n=naes@c-75-75-93-157.hsd1.va.comcast.net) 20.20.08 Join |AhIoRoS| [0] (n=ahioros@201.226.58.34) 20.21.48 Join futurist [0] (n=phileas@CPE00134645e8d1-CM0012c9ab589a.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) 20.22.52 # soap: so what you're saying is that with a recent build with USB enabed the disk doesn't spin down any more while connected ? 20.23.53 Join atrus [0] (n=atrus@d198-166-253-216.abhsia.telus.net) 20.25.24 Quit austriancoder (Remote closed the connection) 20.32.49 Quit futurist2 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 20.32.56 # correct - will update and verify now 20.34.49 # * gevaerts is trying as well 20.34.52 # gevaerts, happy to bisect - what do you want? 20.35.18 Join futurist2 [0] (n=phileas@CPE00134645d98f-CM0012c90feb0c.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) 20.35.32 # Seems to be there in 16970... 20.39.30 Join lee-qid [0] (n=liqid@p549665FB.dip.t-dialin.net) 20.39.39 # domonoky: oh, just found the "make backup before installation" idea again ... 20.39.57 # :-) 20.39.59 # the implicit "it" (being there) being the (proper) spin-down or the bug? 20.40.17 # so there is still enough work ;-) 20.40.31 # the bug 20.41.41 # if it helps at all, the disk continues to spin (Windows XP) even after "safely remove"(ed) 20.42.22 # (no hub) 20.43.20 # Now testing 16279 20.44.05 # In Ubuntu, the drive icon does not show, though the drive continues to spin 20.44.11 # 16279 is buggy as well... 20.44.53 # and again, drive spins even after unmounting 20.45.14 # So bisection won't help much. I can guarantee that 16278 does not have the bug 20.45.56 Quit futurist (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 20.45.57 Quit Xerion (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 20.46.04 Join futurist [0] (n=phileas@CPE00134645d95b-CM0011aea49e8e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) 20.46.19 # also (5th Gen) the player won't mount twice. 20.46.46 # How do you unmount ? 20.46.53 Join Xerion [0] (n=xerion@cp198589-d.landg1.lb.home.nl) 20.47.01 # It detects USB insertion and goes to USB mode, eject it, unplug it, use it, yadda yadda yadda, plug it in again the drive spins for a second and nothing happens. 20.47.15 # ok. Try lsusb 20.47.17 # I unmount by right-clicking the drive in Gnome and selecting "unmount" 20.47.31 Join countrymonkey [0] (n=4b05639a@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-d073d92e111df877) 20.48.41 # I am googling lusb 20.48.54 # I occasionally have that bug as well. No real idea what causes it. running lsusb makes the device enumerate properly 20.49.39 Quit mtrckbx ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 20.50.12 # Could 8916 be checked? 20.50.30 Quit FOAD ("I'll be back") 20.50.45 Join FOAD [0] (n=dok@dinah.blub.net) 20.50.45 Quit Xerion (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 20.51.23 Join Xerion [0] (n=xerion@cp198589-d.landg1.lb.home.nl) 20.51.38 # ok, google and I still can't figure out how to "use lusb" 20.52.12 # just run lsusb from a shell 20.52.20 # soap: it's "lsusb" 20.52.31 Quit stuntmaster () 20.52.50 Quit Jon-Kha (Remote closed the connection) 20.53.23 # * bluebrother wonders how confusing mentioning a number like countrymonkey did will become once FS tasks are 5 digit like revision numbers ... 20.53.25 # THAT might be why ;) 20.54.21 # ok, I expect "Bus 008 Device 012: ID 05ac:1209 Apple Computer, Inc." indicates linux sees my iPod even if it isn't mounted as a drive? 20.54.37 # yes 20.54.39 # bluebrother: Maybe we should poke Zagor to skip to something like 80000 for the FS numbers... 20.54.57 # soap: yes. The issue is that it sometimes needs to be triggered by lsusb before it will appear 20.55.05 # * gevaerts found the bug. It's in ata.c 20.55.14 # and then skip revisions 80000 to 160000? ;-) 20.55.42 # negative numbers for FS ? 20.55.46 # Well, they're not yet. How is that patch? And I'd like to be the permanent chinese translator... 20.56.21 Quit futurist2 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 20.56.21 # countrymonkey: you are reversing a german translation? 20.57.13 Join futurist2 [0] (n=phileas@CPE00134645d98f-CM0012c90feb0c.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) 20.57.13 Quit Xerion (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 20.57.33 # I 20.57.55 Join Xerion [0] (n=xerion@cp198589-d.landg1.lb.home.nl) 20.58.23 # When I made that patch, there was a source string mistake in deutsch.lang. In fact, the mistake is still there. 20.58.37 # This patch fixes it. 21.01.09 # Any ata specialists around ? 21.01.32 # Is it a bug or a feature that when charging in USB my config request to display the battery as a percentage in the status bar is ignored and instead the battery percentage is shown graphically? 21.02.00 # a feature of course 21.02.04 # * gevaerts runs away 21.02.11 # countrymonkey: ok sorry, I'm no translation expert 21.02.21 # JdGordon is the man I would suspect would know about this feature. 21.03.11 # Could it be committed? I think you have commit power. 21.04.22 # The usb spindown issue is because (from my quick reading of the source) ata.c handles the spindown timeout in its event loop, and while usb is connected it doesn't handle events 21.05.17 # makes sense to me. 21.05.21 # ;) 21.07.11 Quit futurist (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 21.07.24 # countrymonkey: yes I can. Who normally decides about stuff like this? 21.08.00 Join futurist [0] (n=phileas@CPE00134645d969-CM000f9fa62b04.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) 21.08.06 # At least this bug explains why my ipod actually looses charge while connected. boosting + spinning disk can probably get near 100mA 21.08.15 # I don't know. About 2 months ago I would say rasher and moos, but lately that doesn't seem to be the case. Now it seems like it is more free-floating in whose decision this is. 21.09.45 # petur, markun: what do you think about FS#8916? I think it looks OK. 21.12.38 Quit |AhIoRoS| (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 21.12.40 # How do I apply for svn access? 21.13.34 Quit houbysoft ("http://funghos.googlecode.com") 21.13.52 # soap: I probably can fix this myself, but (a) not now, and (b) I'm really nervous about touching ata.c without fully understanding it. 21.13.58 Join |AhIoRoS| [0] (n=ahioros@201.226.58.34) 21.14.24 # * gevaerts doesn't want to break disk access for everyone except the sansas 21.15.25 # Totally understand - thank you for your time gevaerts 21.16.04 Join corevette [0] (n=frewsxcv@adsl-75-35-112-15.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) 21.16.16 # I will try to get hold of someone who knows this tomorrow 21.16.18 # has anyone seen this? https://www.mishare.com/howto.html 21.16.37 # no 21.18.48 Quit futurist2 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 21.20.47 Join Jon-Kha [0] (i=jon-kha@xdsl-83-150-91-127.nebulazone.fi) 21.22.40 Quit ZincAlloy ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)") 21.22.42 # Interesting, but I don't think it will work with rb unless we can find a way to get it to store on the disc area all the time. 21.25.19 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 21.26.28 Join futurist2 [0] (n=phileas@CPE00134645d959-CM0012c9a9ae36.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) 21.26.46 Join mf0102 [0] (n=michi@85.127.182.34) 21.26.50 Quit mf0102 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 21.28.47 # why would it not work with a Rockbox'd iPod? 21.29.47 # Assuming your music is in the iTunes database. 21.29.51 # I guess you couldn't use it as source because of the playlist format (i.e. not using itunesdb) 21.29.58 # ;-) 21.30.26 # but has anyone watched the linked video? They tell it's only full speed :o 21.31.00 # but but but - what's faster than "full speed" ahead Captain? 21.31.28 # soap: easy, high speed and super speed :) 21.31.46 # bluebrother: yes, looks ok 21.32.14 # markun: I guess you meant bertrik? 21.32.24 # eh, yes :)_ 21.33.07 # gevaerts: there's super speed? Is that with usb 3.0? 21.33.25 # bluebrother: yes. At least if my memory is not totally broken 21.33.45 # After that they'll have to get creative :) 21.33.54 # Ok, I'll commit FS#8916 21.33.58 # linuxstb: Well, hrrm... 21.34.01 # ludicrous speed 21.34.15 # light speed 21.34.31 Nick neptunepink is now known as purpleposeidon (n=neptuna@adsl-75-62-6-60.dsl.snfc21.sbcglobal.net) 21.35.13 # MP3, OGG, that voice interface would be nice.... hrrm 21.35.15 # mindboggling speed 21.35.41 # higher speed ? 21.36.02 # So I guess an iPod, an iAudio, a Gigabeat, or a Sansa. 21.36.33 # Or an iriver... 21.36.41 # Err, iPod/Gigabeat/Sansa. 21.36.42 # gevaerts: well, the naming is a bit strange already, even without super. 21.36.53 # but I can think of hyper ;-) 21.37.04 # Well, they have some funny thing in the Real Time Clock row. But I don't know what I'd care about that for.. 21.37.05 Quit futurist (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 21.37.41 # And then, which one is easiest to install from linux? 21.40.03 # All players are pretty much as easy as each other to install. 21.40.23 # * bluebrother points to Rockbox Utility ;-) 21.43.39 Quit mr_pink () 21.56.16 Join futurist [0] (n=phileas@CPE00134645d959-CM0012c9a9ae36.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) 21.58.04 Quit lee-qid ("aufwiederbyebientotsayonara") 21.58.14 Join lee-qid [0] (n=liqid@p549665FB.dip.t-dialin.net) 22.03.14 Quit countrymonkey ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 22.04.19 Join countrymonkey [0] (n=4b05639a@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-0db46d7c4b800156) 22.06.33 Join gwon [0] (n=d45466ec@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-568b3d7df60967fc) 22.06.42 # How would I apply for svn access so I can post updates to apps/lang myself? Right now there are about 7 lang updates and I could commit them if I had access. 22.08.18 Quit futurist2 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 22.08.26 # evening all. I'm looking for a bit of advice. I like the look of rockbox, and so want to grab a music player capable of having rockbox installed on it. Is there a model of ipod/mp3 player that people recommend? 8GB+ a bonus (if there is discussion about this elsewhere, please point me in the right direction) 22.08.30 Join futurist2 [0] (n=phileas@CPE00134645d959-CM0012c9a9ae36.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) 22.09.16 # RB has a buyer's guide on the wiki. 22.09.23 # gwon: take a look at: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/WebHome?topic=BuyersGuide 22.10.11 # brilliant! thanks for that 22.12.49 Quit gwon ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 22.12.57 # incredible. Error C2062 in winnt.h (!) 22.13.58 # countrymonkey: there is no way to applying for svn access. Usually you get access offered. 22.14.07 # Argh, all of them are discontinued 22.14.50 Part J-23 22.15.38 Quit nplus ("Leaving") 22.16.10 Quit futurist (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 22.16.47 # I guess eBay is the way to go 22.17.40 Join amiconn [50] (n=jens@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 22.19.33 # I just remembered: I often get the error "Panic! Event not known" when trying to shut down my ipod 5.5G 80GB 22.20.21 Join futurist [0] (n=phileas@CPE0013464a03d5-CM00111ae6c2c0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) 22.20.39 # Horscht: from now on you will know which event :) 22.20.53 # well, I know :p 22.21.21 # I just haven't found any consistency, though. 33% of the time it does that 22.22.03 Join davina [0] (n=davina@cpc1-sout6-0-0-cust616.sotn.cable.ntl.com) 22.23.42 # hmmm, I get a feeling that there's a lot of unnecessary #includes 22.25.31 Quit Lear ("ChatZilla 0.9.81 [Firefox 3.0pre/2008042305]") 22.31.29 Quit davina^ (Connection timed out) 22.32.32 Quit futurist2 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 22.35.32 Quit countrymonkey ("CGI:IRC") 22.35.33 Part Viaken ("Ptwang!") 22.36.17 Join futurist2 [0] (n=phileas@CPE00134645d959-CM0012c9a9ae36.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) 22.38.07 Quit bluebrother ("Verlassend") 22.41.49 # soap: It's a well thought feature that the battery display in the status bar is always shown graphically while charging. 22.42.30 # ok 22.43.40 # The charging animation would look really weird numerically. It would cycle 33->66->100 continuously... 22.44.57 # it uses different colour shades on at least some targets when graphical too 22.45.02 # I agree that even-shifting numbers would look odd, but perhaps "CHG" could be displayed. Not that it matters. 22.45.02 # which makes it clearer that it's charging 22.45.24 # preglow: Yes, but (1) that is now and (2) how would you represent that numerically? 22.45.24 Join pixelma [50] (i=pixelma@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 22.45.39 # amiconn: i would't try to show it numerically 22.46.07 # i can see no way to do so without being confusing 22.46.31 Part naes ("Ex-Chat") 22.46.34 # preglow: That was rhetorically, to pinpoint *why* the battery display is always graphical while charging... 22.46.47 # ahh, i didn't realize it was 22.47.50 Quit futurist (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 22.48.33 Join futurist [0] (n=phileas@CPE00134645d9ab-CM001371142bc8.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) 22.50.59 Join NotSoCreative [0] (n=som@80-240-220-47.dnat.migtel.ru) 22.51.04 # hi guys 22.51.20 # can anybody help me with rockbox?) 22.51.30 Join bluebrother [0] (n=dom@rockbox/staff/bluebrother) 22.51.33 # If you ask a question, sure 22.51.46 Join einhirn_ [0] (n=Miranda@p5B0336DD.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 22.52.39 # i have iPod video, and previously I had lots of music, am i able to convert lousy iTunes dir struc to normal structure? 22.52.50 # itunes doesn't bend that way 22.53.06 # but the itunes directory structure can be used by rockbox directly 22.53.31 # given that your music has correct tags you could use one of the mass tagger / renamer tools to do that. 22.54.36 # ok, and how can i achieve old tracks to delete them from the rockbox db? 22.56.37 # bertrik: how sure are you about the correctness of those lang changes by Harry Tu? 22.57.14 Quit midgey () 22.58.27 Quit |AhIoRoS| (Connection timed out) 22.59.07 # is there any apps 2 control the rockbox db? 22.59.53 Quit futurist2 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 22.59.55 Join futurist2 [0] (n=phileas@CPE00134645d969-CM000f9fa62b04.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) 23.01.21 # control? 23.01.39 # delete tracks for example 23.01.50 # petur: not completely sure, but I don't speak/read chinese so I trust him to know better than I do. Also I asked markun (who did previous commits on the chinese lang files) and it looked OK to him too. 23.01.58 # which couldn't be achieved through the file system 23.02.01 # markun: Did you ever fix your UIE linking problem? I'm getting the same problem on my DAX... 23.02.59 Mode "#rockbox +o scorche " by ChanServ (ChanServ@services.) 23.03.04 # bertrik: well his patches are not always errorfree iirc, so I'd rather have them committed by somebody who can verify them 23.03.18 # * petur looks at scorche 23.03.22 Mode "#rockbox +b *!*phileas@CPE00134645d969-CM000f9fa62b04.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com " by scorche (n=scorche@rockbox/administrator/scorche) 23.04.12 Mode "#rockbox -o scorche " by ChanServ (ChanServ@services.) 23.04.47 # Is it possible to charge the H340 via USB? 23.04.53 # Probabyl not? :( 23.04.57 # yes 23.04.57 # probably* 23.05.01 Quit pixelma (" reboot") 23.05.01 # oh 23.05.03 # how? 23.05.23 # hold REC while inserting the cable 23.06.06 # nice, thanks :) 23.06.17 # btw, what exactly is "Car-Adapter-Mode"? 23.06.30 # it could be you have to set the usb mode in the OF to desktop (not hub) 23.06.59 # car-adapter-mode is to power up/down with external power 23.07.20 # Kohlrabi: http://download.rockbox.org/manual/rockbox-h300/rockbox-buildch7.html#x10-1210007.6.7 23.07.24 # doesn't work on iriver because it stays in the bootloader 23.09.30 Quit futurist (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 23.09.31 Quit domonoky (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 23.09.39 Join futurist [0] (n=phileas@CPE0013464a03d5-CM00111ae6c2c0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) 23.10.46 # or with the official bootloader it loads the OF (at least on h300) :P 23.11.47 Mode "#rockbox +o scorche " by ChanServ (ChanServ@services.) 23.12.04 Mode "#rockbox +b *!*phileas@*.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com " by scorche (n=scorche@rockbox/administrator/scorche) 23.12.20 Mode "#rockbox -o scorche " by ChanServ (ChanServ@services.) 23.13.00 # ok, thank y'all 23.13.09 # linuxstb: Double check that you really have an UIE() for your target... 23.13.58 # tell me plz, what should I do to delete tracks from my iPod? if theese tracks are itunes dirs? 23.16.23 Quit Xerion (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 23.17.51 Quit n1s () 23.18.10 # answer me plz 23.18.28 # amiconn: It's present in the compiled firmware/system.o 23.18.44 # please follow our channel guidelines and use real words. While some acronyms are accepted in this channel "plz" isn't. 23.18.52 Quit EspeonEefi ("さよなら") 23.19.23 Quit futurist2 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 23.19.38 # oh sorry 23.19.56 # petur: OK, I'll be more careful next time and double-check it with more/other people first 23.20.40 # and for your file, those are simply files. Do however you like. 23.20.53 # i understand 23.21.09 # if you just delete the files itself they will still show up on the OF -- Apple relies fully on their database. 23.21.28 # linuxstb: Well, something must be wrong with that symbol and/or the other object file(s) referencing it 23.21.32 Quit davina (Remote closed the connection) 23.21.33 # if you don't want to use the Apple firmware anymore at all you can simply delete the iTunes_Control folder. 23.22.26 # i need a utility that could convert iTunes_control F01, F02,etc to normal directories... 23.22.35 # You could compare with other, working arm builds. Maybe you need an underscore, like on SH1? I wonder how that problem is solved on the D2 though... 23.23.00 # linuxstb: Is this with plain svn? 23.23.41 # NotSoCreative: I answered that earlier -- if those files are tagged properly you can use one of the mass rename tools that are around. 23.24.10 # can you name a couple of them? 23.24.40 # amiconn: No, it's not SVN. I just fixed it by comparing with the Gigabeat F crt0.S - that has a "UIE: b UIE" line, which isn't in the D2's crt0.S 23.24.48 # http://www.google.com can tell you. IIRC there is also a wiki page -- UsefulTools or similar. 23.25.20 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 23.25.47 # linuxstb: Hmm? That's the stub version for bootloaders. The main build should of course have a real UIE() 23.26.47 # Hmm indeed... 23.28.03 # I thought STUB was defined for the GDB stub? 23.28.27 # But you're right that that was the wrong "fix" for me... 23.29.37 Join wariskampar [0] (n=4df9d8fa@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-5ed66e3edbd5e27b) 23.30.09 Join jhulst [0] (n=jhulst@75-128-122-8.dhcp.aldl.mi.charter.com) 23.31.02 Quit wariskampar (Client Quit) 23.31.48 Quit bertrik ("bye") 23.43.05 Quit amiconn (Nick collision from services.) 23.43.12 Join amiconn [50] (n=jens@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 23.45.20 Join dabujo_ [0] (i=xx@p4FDB3CEA.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 23.45.26 Quit dabujo_ (Remote closed the connection) 23.46.58 Quit amiconn (Nick collision from services.) 23.47.01 Join amiconn [50] (n=jens@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 23.47.20 # jhMikeS: hmm, i think i like this template structure approach 23.48.39 # jhMikeS: might even generate prettier code, since the c compiler understands how the offsets work... 23.50.41 Quit bluebrother ("leaving") 23.51.36 Join pixelma [50] (i=pixelma@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 23.52.00 Quit petur ("*plop*") 23.52.00 # preglow: works nicely so long as gcc doesn't do something weird :) 23.53.14 # jhMikeS: has it so far? 23.54.02 Quit faemir (Remote closed the connection) 23.54.04 # preglow: no. 23.54.44 # Hmm, seems system.o wasn't being linked at all - the .c code in my build wasn't calling any functions in it, just crt0.S 23.54.45 # it aligns unpacked data to natural size (as I imagine it must) 23.55.19 Quit futurist (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 23.55.25 Join gregzx [0] (n=chatzill@dsp161.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) 23.57.12 Quit rotator () 23.58.36 # * amiconn agrees about the better optimisation part, but not about the 'look nicer' part