--- Log for 30.04.108 Server: leguin.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 28 days and 18 hours ago 00.00.39 # http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=14064.msg112320#msg112320 00.01.53 Quit matsl (Remote closed the connection) 00.01.56 Join CyBergRind|w [0] (n=cbr@212.98.160.130) 00.02.33 Quit gregzx ("ChatZilla 0.9.81 [Firefox 2.0.0.14/2008040413]") 00.11.44 Join stripwax__ [0] (n=Miranda@87-194-34-169.bethere.co.uk) 00.16.38 Part Dhraakellian ("Meddle not in the affairs of ircops, for they are (not so) subtle, and quick to anger.") 00.17.35 Quit miepchen^schlaf () 00.18.30 Quit OlivierBorowski (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 00.19.09 Quit [CBR]Unspoken|w (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00.20.49 Join miepchen^schlaf [0] (n=miepchen@p54BF5AB4.dip.t-dialin.net) 00.22.26 Quit gevaerts ("bedtime") 00.23.00 Quit bluebrother ("leaving") 00.24.05 Join OlivierBorowski [0] (n=OlivierB@ANancy-157-1-134-116.w90-6.abo.wanadoo.fr) 00.24.15 Quit Nico_P (Remote closed the connection) 00.27.51 Quit OlivierBorowski (Remote closed the connection) 00.28.15 Join OlivierBorowski [0] (n=OlivierB@ANancy-157-1-134-116.w90-6.abo.wanadoo.fr) 00.29.54 Quit stripwax (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00.32.45 Quit stripwax__ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00.38.58 Quit tessarakt ("Client exiting") 00.40.22 Quit OlivierBorowski (Remote closed the connection) 00.40.46 Quit ompaul (Client Quit) 00.40.47 Join OlivierBorowski [0] (n=OlivierB@ANancy-157-1-134-116.w90-6.abo.wanadoo.fr) 00.46.01 Nick fxb is now known as fxb__ (n=felixbru@h1252615.stratoserver.net) 00.46.34 Quit jgarvey ("Leaving") 00.46.55 Quit ender` (" I'm a complex person. I have a real and an imaginary part.") 00.49.08 Join BigBambi_ [0] (n=Alex@rockbox/staff/BigBambi) 00.50.20 Quit BigBambi (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 00.52.21 Quit herrwaldo ("Konversation terminated!") 00.54.11 # shotofadds, preglow: Do you know if there's a reason not to enable interrupts in the D2 bootloader? It would remove a lot of #ifdefs... 00.55.20 Quit Rob2223 () 00.55.24 Join Mathiasdm [0] (n=Mathias@vpnh055.ugent.be) 00.56.11 Join Rob2222 [0] (n=Miranda@p4FDCCD47.dip.t-dialin.net) 00.57.42 Quit Rob2222 (Client Quit) 00.59.36 Join Rob2222 [0] (n=Miranda@p4FDCCD47.dip.t-dialin.net) 01.01.17 Quit DerDome ("Leaving.") 01.01.18 # well 01.01.24 # we generally don't enable interrupts in bootloaders 01.01.49 # and to be honest, i think we should keep it that way 01.02.00 # the fewer sources of bugs in bootloaders, the better 01.02.03 # IIUC, that's not true. e.g. all the Coldfire bootloaders enable interrupts, as does the m:robe 500 01.02.11 # really? 01.02.18 Quit Synergy6 ("Adios") 01.02.27 # i thought the coldfire bootloaders specfically didn't do it 01.02.32 # oh well, i haven't looked at those for a while 01.02.33 # I think all the ARM ones don't simply because they're all based on the ipod bootloader, which I never got around to enabling interrupts in (because they weren't needed). 01.02.41 # grep for "enable_irq" in bootloader/ 01.02.59 # oh, that just unmasks them 01.03.06 # it doesn't actually set up interrupt vectors and the like 01.03.31 Join Shaid [0] (n=adam@dsl-202-45-112-116-static.VIC.netspace.net.au) 01.03.38 Quit Shaid (Remote closed the connection) 01.03.39 # I know, but surely that's done as well? 01.03.53 # i don't think so, really 01.03.56 # and i don't see why 01.04.55 # I mean why would there be a call to enable_irq(), if interrupts aren't being used? 01.04.59 # shrug 01.06.47 Join Zarggg [0] (n=z@216-15-73-111.c3-0.eas-ubr6.atw-eas.pa.cable.rcn.com) 01.06.47 # And if we want bootloader USB on PP (maybe useful on some targets), we're going to need to enable interrupts. 01.07.13 # Well the M3 bootloader actually uses interrupts 01.07.22 # is the source complexity really that mcuh affacted by bootloaders not enabled interrupts? 01.07.47 # preglow: Look at adc-tcc780x.c for example - it's basically two different implementations (polling and interrupts) 01.08.04 Quit Zarggg (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 01.08.15 # linuxstb: well, that certainly is a good point 01.08.21 Join Zarggg [0] (n=z@216-15-73-111.c3-0.eas-ubr6.atw-eas.pa.cable.rcn.com) 01.08.46 # It needs both the tick timer and the iic2 interrupt for the ADC to work (reading battery voltage and most buttons) 01.08.55 # but no, i don't have anything about interrupt usage in bootloaders principally, just make it so unexpected interrupts don't hurt anything 01.12.44 # At least the way it's done currently on telechips, it's extremely safe - the dual-boot check is the first instructions in crt0.S, before anything else is done. So a broken bootloader will still be able to load the original firmware. 01.15.01 # Afaik all coldfire bootloaders at least rely on a working tick interrupt (for sleep()) 01.19.44 # god, that blink that happens when rockbox shuts down on nano is ugly... 01.22.58 Join Tatsh [0] (n=Tatsh_zz@129.63.59.179) 01.23.08 # anybody ever seen this menu on an iPod? 01.23.10 # it has these options 01.23.13 # 5 IN 1 01.23.14 # RESET 01.23.16 # KEY 01.23.18 # CHGRCUR 01.23.19 # REMOTE 01.23.20 # HP STAT 01.23.22 # IRAM3 01.23.24 # what is this? 01.23.32 # you could have put that all on one line... 01.23.33 # debug messsges 01.23.42 # diagnostic mode 01.23.48 # i thought so 01.23.51 # what triggered this? 01.23.54 # i left it in my bag all day 01.23.58 # you 01.24.21 # what button combination does this 01.24.25 # or << + center on most ipods iirc 01.24.37 # ah 01.24.38 # Tatsh: http://ipodlinux.org/Key_Combinations 01.24.54 # at least menu + select still reboots 01.24.56 # that's weird 01.24.58 # i never expected that 01.26.32 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 01.28.23 # oh well 01.28.28 # that killed my battery, now recharging ;/ 01.38.44 Quit Mathiasdm ("Yuuw!") 01.40.19 Quit OlivierBorowski (Remote closed the connection) 01.49.07 Quit spiorf (Remote closed the connection) 01.52.32 Quit Zarggg () 01.52.49 Join Zarggg [0] (n=z@216-15-73-111.c3-0.eas-ubr6.atw-eas.pa.cable.rcn.com) 01.58.44 Join Makuseru [0] (n=max@163.106.40.24.aeneasdsl.com) 01.59.28 # Does anyone know if someone is currently working on the Sansa M240 port? cant seem to find much information on it. 02.02.33 # I've been working on it for the last few days (a "version 1" m260). It's very similar to the Logik DAX player I've also been working on. 02.02.40 # oh ya? 02.02.43 # hows that going? 02.02.58 # Still early days (it doesn't do anything useful), but it's progressing. 02.03.02 Join jjrawr [0] (n=43b6f5d3@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-e8a2f27538939cab) 02.03.05 # i have a version 1 m240 that i would like to put rockbox on 02.03.24 # my main player is a Toshiba F series, and roxbox just runs amazingly on it 02.03.52 # i wish i knew more so i could help with the port, but im severly lacking in the programming area, ha 02.05.38 # I'm sure that when it comes to developing the flash (disk) driver testers with other capacity devices will be needed. 02.05.56 Quit XavierGr () 02.06.49 Quit dandin1 () 02.07.21 # linuxstb: well if theres anything you need testers for, ill be a lab rat 02.07.40 # i dont know how many times i've bricked my Toshiba trying things 02.07.59 # There's an m200 thread on the forums - I'll post updates and requests for testers there. 02.08.22 # ill be sure to check it out 02.08.28 Quit jjrawr ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)") 02.08.58 Join aliask [0] (n=chatzill@rockbox/developer/aliask) 02.13.22 Join zajacattack [0] (n=4261768b@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-a89ef59c07c83c43) 02.17.36 Quit bughunter2 ("Leaving.") 02.17.50 Part pixelma 02.24.59 Quit aliask ("ChatZilla 0.9.81 [Firefox 3.0b5/2008041514]") 02.26.41 Quit miepchen^schlaf (Connection timed out) 02.34.20 Join Shaid [0] (n=adam@dsl-202-45-112-116-static.VIC.netspace.net.au) 02.37.40 Join cool_walking_ [0] (n=notroot@203-59-129-195.perm.iinet.net.au) 02.39.59 Join needs [0] (n=42eac112@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-7447aec31a4745ea) 02.40.14 Join csc` [0] (n=csc@archlinux/user/csc) 02.40.29 # hey any one in here a techie at all? 02.40.39 # hi, i was looking at the Context Menu in my Toshiba Gigabeat F40, and i noticed it isnt like what appears in the manual, i only have the 02.40.48 # playlist option 02.40.52 Quit needs (Client Quit) 02.41.18 # no other options like copy, delete, create. how would i get that? 02.43.35 # The _CONTEXT_ menu changes with context. I take it you are not calling it while a file is selected in the file browser. 02.45.25 # cool_walking_: oh, ok. i get how to use it now 02.45.55 # Are you trying to create a playlist? 02.52.41 Join rockboy02 [0] (n=42eac112@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-2b4b6faf4516b069) 02.53.30 # does any one know how to run rockboy? 02.54.02 # i am having trouble and was wondering if any 1 knew anyhting at all... 02.54.37 Join rockboy19 [0] (n=42eac112@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-b5ffce592ccd9a88) 02.54.37 Quit rockboy02 (Client Quit) 02.55.05 Quit rockboy19 (Client Quit) 03.10.15 Join XavierGr [0] (n=xavier@rockbox/staff/XavierGr) 03.26.36 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 03.28.31 Quit DerPapst (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 03.37.02 Quit perrikwp ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") 03.41.08 Join tarbo [0] (n=me@unaffiliated/tarbo) 03.47.30 Join homielowe [0] (n=eric_j_l@66.183.89.40) 03.47.51 Quit homielowe (Client Quit) 03.51.24 Join JdGordon|uni [0] (i=768aa353@rockbox/developer/JdGordon) 03.59.08 Join m0f0x [0] (n=m0f0x@189-47-10-86.dsl.telesp.net.br) 04.05.11 Join jhulst [0] (n=jhulst@unaffiliated/jhulst) 04.24.05 Part Tatsh ("Lesbians lesbians lesbians") 04.26.47 # does anyone else wish rockbox had a proper random as well as the shuffle mode? 04.29.10 Quit jhulst (Remote closed the connection) 04.29.25 Join jhulst [0] (n=jhulst@unaffiliated/jhulst) 04.32.55 Quit EspeonEefi ("さよなら") 04.33.21 # * scorche quite likes rockbox's random and much prefers it over others 04.33.50 # if archos's is the true random...well...ugh 04.35.17 # well.. I changed from listening to only cds to just loading the whole DAPs content into one playlist and shufflnig it... in this case I wouldnt mind it repeating tracks and jumping around randomly 04.36.12 # "jumping around randomly"?....does it not do that now? 04.36.43 # no, now it shuffles the whole playlist and goes through the list in the expected order 04.37.00 # id like it to do a proper random selection for each track 04.37.04 # and how is that different than "jumping around randomly"? 04.37.14 # it just does the random bits beforehand 04.37.22 # with no repeat 04.37.30 # yeah.. 04.37.53 # im saying, with a long playlist, repeated shuffle is good 04.38.30 Quit jhulst (Remote closed the connection) 04.38.45 # archos's was horrible...it did what you ask, but due to the way it was done, you could never go back a track, etc 04.38.45 Join jhulst [0] (n=jhulst@unaffiliated/jhulst) 04.40.30 # I dont think thats a big deal if you use this mode though 04.40.39 # * JdGordon|uni definatly not suggesting replacing shuffle 04.49.06 Quit jhulst (Remote closed the connection) 04.49.21 Join jhulst [0] (n=jhulst@unaffiliated/jhulst) 04.58.26 Quit jhulst (Remote closed the connection) 04.58.41 Join jhulst [0] (n=jhulst@unaffiliated/jhulst) 05.04.59 Join Horschti [0] (n=Horscht@p4FD4E759.dip.t-dialin.net) 05.05.41 Join perrikwp [0] (i=9821707c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-e48c2c8b6d1f7128) 05.05.43 Quit Horscht (Nick collision from services.) 05.08.17 Quit XavierGr (Nick collision from services.) 05.08.30 Join XavierGr [0] (n=xavier@rockbox/staff/XavierGr) 05.09.02 Quit jhulst (Remote closed the connection) 05.09.17 Join jhulst [0] (n=jhulst@unaffiliated/jhulst) 05.20.33 Quit jhulst (Remote closed the connection) 05.20.48 Join jhulst [0] (n=jhulst@unaffiliated/jhulst) 05.26.40 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 05.30.34 Quit jhulst (Remote closed the connection) 05.30.49 Join jhulst [0] (n=jhulst@unaffiliated/jhulst) 05.35.34 Quit Horschti ("Snak 5.3.3 Unregistered copy. 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For long playlists, especially if the DB is not loaded to RAM, it would still be a not-good thing. 09.39.41 # linuxstb_: Debian 09.40.03 # Llorean: on DB initialization/update? 09.40.22 # Llorean: ah, nm... reread what you said 09.40.30 Join Davidz [0] (i=Davidz@60.166.108.159) 09.42.00 # lymeca: I don't know then. You should always get a /dev/sdX device... Are you sure you're looking at the right "X" ? 09.42.50 Quit AndyI (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 09.42.51 # and ipodpatcher can't do much fun on an HFS+ ipod anyway, can it? 09.43.21 # Yes, ipodpatcher itself supports HFS ipods. 09.43.30 # ah, cool 09.43.45 # (on request from IPL users) 09.44.06 Join bertrik [0] (n=bertrik@127-013-045-062.dynamic.caiway.nl) 09.44.17 # Not to mention that long ago there was some talk of giving iPodPatcher the option to convert them... 09.44.40 Join AndyI [0] (n=pasha_in@212.14.205.32) 09.44.58 # Most of the code to do that is already in SVN - it just needs testing and (probably) fixing. It's only for 512-byte sector ipods though. 09.44.59 Quit Rob2223 (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 10.01.13 Quit Shaid (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 10.03.24 # can someone test this with a hard disk target? http://pastebin.ca/1001695 ... it changes the playlist stuff to use the ata callback instead of polling ata_disk_is_active() to dump the cache control 10.03.41 # .... or should I just commit and hope it works? 10.05.26 # *tumble weeds*... 10.08.54 Quit GodEater (Remote closed the connection) 10.08.54 Quit perrikwp (Remote closed the connection) 10.11.27 Nick linuxstb_ is now known as linuxstb (n=linuxstb@rockbox/developer/linuxstb) 10.14.24 Part Davidz 10.14.34 Join Davidz [0] (i=Davidz@60.166.108.159) 10.14.36 Quit Davidz (Client Quit) 10.19.58 Join DerDome [0] (n=DerDome@dslb-082-083-236-082.pools.arcor-ip.net) 10.21.34 # linuxstb: I fixed that but now I try and format my 80GB to Fat32 with mtools 10.21.36 # mformat -t 2428 -h 255 -s 63 -S 2048 -M 2048 -F a: 10.21.40 # It complains: 10.21.48 # argssize must be less than 6 10.25.06 # lymeca: Checking the IRC logs for that error, you asked the same question on 14th April... Did you manage to recover your ipod, or is this a new one? 10.25.29 # This is a new one. 10.25.45 Join GodEater [0] (i=c2cbc962@rockbox/staff/GodEater) 10.25.57 # 5.5G 80GB that I just received today. 10.26.05 # This ia brand new install of Debian too 10.26.30 # So it's not my system's fault (unless the command I pasted it incorrect or Debian's mtools package is funky) 10.28.47 # Googling shows other people with the same error, but no solution... 10.29.54 # Is that command correct for GNU+Linux as well as Mac OS X? 10.30.00 # mformat -t 2428 -h 255 -s 63 -S 2048 -M 2048 -F a: 10.30.01 # ? 10.30.12 # mformat should be the same, no matter where it's running. 10.30.43 # How have you defined "a:" ? 10.31.15 # drive a: file="/dev/sdk2" 10.31.20 # in /etc/mtools.conf 10.31.26 # and /dev/sdk is my ipod 10.31.33 # I have a sdk and sdk1 and sdk2 10.31.40 # which means the MBR copy worked 10.32.11 # fdisk says: 10.32.12 # /dev/sdk1 1 4 128394 0 Empty 10.32.12 # /dev/sdk2 5 2432 78011640 b W95 FAT32 10.32.37 # That all looks correct. 10.32.48 Join homielowe [0] (n=eric_j_l@66.183.89.40) 10.33.09 Join niraj1234 [0] (n=nirajpro@220.227.156.151) 10.33.39 Quit niraj1234 (Client Quit) 10.35.03 Join EspeonEefi [0] (i=espeonee@CERULEANCITY.MIT.EDU) 10.37.50 # gggrrrrrr 10.39.13 Quit XavierGr (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 10.39.29 Join XavierGr [0] (n=xavier@rockbox/staff/XavierGr) 10.39.41 Join gevaerts [0] (n=fg@rockbox/developer/gevaerts) 10.41.34 # linuxstb, lymeca: There's a forum post about the very same problem. From the usage template that mformat prints it's easy to figure out what's wrong... 10.41.44 # The -s should be -n 10.41.57 # http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=16224.25;wap2 10.43.10 Quit DerDome ("Leaving.") 10.45.41 Join DerDome [0] (n=DerDome@dslb-082-083-236-082.pools.arcor-ip.net) 10.48.20 Quit cool_walking_ (Remote closed the connection) 10.48.23 # amiconn: Ah... So either it's a typo in the wiki, or mformat changed their parameters. 10.55.17 Join pixelma [50] (i=pixelma@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 10.58.12 Quit mnakifaec (Remote closed the connection) 10.58.20 Join homielowe_ [0] (n=eric_j_l@S0106001a70694b9a.no.shawcable.net) 10.58.29 Quit DerDome ("Leaving.") 10.59.28 Join homielowe__ [0] (n=eric_j_l@66.183.89.40) 10.59.46 Join mnakioopm [0] (i=0@86.122.116.44) 10.59.49 Quit homielowe (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 11.01.38 # * B4gder found this => http://www.rockbox.org/mail/archive/rockbox-archive-2004-07/0453.shtml 11.01.44 # a request for an M3 port 11.01.56 # took just a bit over 3 years to deliver ;-) 11.06.03 Join DerDome [0] (n=DerDome@dslb-082-083-236-082.pools.arcor-ip.net) 11.08.39 Quit linuxstb (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 11.10.47 Join aliask [0] (n=chatzill@rockbox/developer/aliask) 11.10.52 Join barrywardell [0] (n=barry@barry-workstation.ucd.ie) 11.11.20 Quit mnakioopm (Remote closed the connection) 11.13.42 Join lnakialin [0] (i=0@86.122.116.44) 11.16.03 Quit homielowe_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 11.18.45 Join OlivierBorowski [0] (n=OlivierB@ANancy-157-1-134-116.w90-6.abo.wanadoo.fr) 11.21.55 Join Agent [0] (n=chatzill@217.157.46.162) 11.22.37 Join desowin [0] (n=desowin@atheme/member/desowin) 11.26.23 Quit Agent (Client Quit) 11.26.49 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 11.40.27 Join mf0102 [0] (n=michi@85.127.21.196) 11.48.59 Join PaulJam [0] (i=PaulJam_@vpn-3034.gwdg.de) 11.50.22 Quit jhMikeS (Nick collision from services.) 11.50.28 Join jhMikeS [50] (n=jethead7@rockbox/developer/jhMikeS) 12.07.54 Quit XavierGr (Nick collision from services.) 12.08.07 Join XavierGr [0] (n=xavier@rockbox/staff/XavierGr) 12.09.17 Quit keanu (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 12.10.27 # how to I create a .voice file for the lang? 12.11.32 # It's an (A)dvanced build option, or in RButil, isn't it? 12.11.51 Join linuxstb [0] (n=linuxstb@rockbox/developer/linuxstb) 12.11.53 Quit petur ("connection reset by holiday") 12.13.22 Join daven_ [0] (n=daven@145.175.adsl.brightview.com) 12.13.38 # ta 12.15.00 # nope... /me fails 12.15.18 # I've done .voice files both ways, always English, so I know both have worked in the past. 12.15.33 # Which are you trying? 12.15.37 # where does the .voice end up? 12.15.45 # command line 12.15.56 # I seem to remember it just being right there in the build folder. 12.17.00 Quit MU{lappy} (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 12.17.05 # B4gder: will you reply the M3 guy that his request has been accepted? :) 12.17.19 # JdGordon: Did you do "make voice" instead of "make" ? 12.17.31 # bah, thanks 12.17.34 Quit daven (Nick collision from services.) 12.17.35 # * Llorean forgot to mention that 12.17.36 # thats not in the makefile help 12.17.38 # :( 12.20.38 Nick daven_ is now known as daven (n=daven@145.175.adsl.brightview.com) 12.21.49 # * JdGordon loves being able to take credit for other people's bug fixes 12.21.52 # :D 12.31.30 Join DerPapst [0] (n=Der_Paps@dhcp-25-244.fh-friedberg.de) 12.33.40 Join Synergy6 [0] (n=Synergy6@0-1b-24-4c-ae-79.hb.esol.dur.ac.uk) 12.33.56 Quit DerPapst (Nick collision from services.) 12.34.08 Join DerPapst_ [0] (n=Der_Paps@dhcp-25-244.fh-friedberg.de) 12.36.27 # jhMikeS: did you check out sdoyon's reply to your comments on his patch? 12.43.07 Quit DerDome (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 12.59.05 Join pondlife [50] (n=Steve@rockbox/developer/pondlife) 13.07.01 Nick fxb__ is now known as fxb (n=felixbru@h1252615.stratoserver.net) 13.09.23 Join CaptainSquid [0] (n=Miranda@proxy15.netz.sbs.de) 13.14.20 Quit AndyI () 13.15.23 Quit jhMikeS (Nick collision from services.) 13.15.29 Join jhMikeS [50] (n=jethead7@rockbox/developer/jhMikeS) 13.20.27 Join DerPapst [0] (n=Der_Paps@dhcp-25-244.fh-friedberg.de) 13.26.53 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 13.27.36 Quit DerPapst_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 13.39.04 Quit homielowe__ () 13.39.15 Quit Bagder (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 13.40.14 Join Bagder [241] (n=daniel@rockbox/developer/bagder) 13.45.20 Join Ragnor [0] (n=Ragnor@dslb-084-062-112-074.pools.arcor-ip.net) 13.46.16 Join Casainho [0] (n=chatzill@bl10-16-94.dsl.telepac.pt) 13.46.21 Quit Seed (Nick collision from services.) 13.46.25 Join Seedy [0] (i=ben@bzq-84-108-237-178.cablep.bezeqint.net) 13.49.58 # hello 13.51.41 # I would like to know If I can create wiki pages for the project RockboxPlayer, using "RockboxPlayer-JTAG", for example... using "RockboxPlayer-xxxx" ?? 13.51.51 # sure 13.52.30 # what is normaly done in this situation? 13.53.03 # pages are created with a common prefix, similar to what you said 13.53.21 # can you give an example? 13.54.05 # IaudioM3Info and IaudioM3HardwareComponents 13.54.21 # IaudioX5Info and IaudioX5HardwareComponents 13.54.24 # ah, okok, so I sould not use the "-" 13.54.40 # okok - thank you. 13.55.33 Quit crashd (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 13.56.03 Quit Casainho ("ChatZilla 0.9.81 [Firefox 2.0.0.14/2008040413]") 13.59.19 Join Thundercloud [0] (n=thunderc@resnet05.nat.lancs.ac.uk) 14.16.03 Join dabujo [0] (i=xx@p4FDB1A80.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 14.18.06 Quit Synergy6 ("Adios") 14.30.19 Quit aliask ("ChatZilla 0.9.81 [Firefox 3.0b5/2008041514]") 14.34.25 Quit dabujo (Connection timed out) 14.44.34 Join miepchen^schlaf [0] (n=miepchen@p54BF65F8.dip.t-dialin.net) 14.50.52 # is the virtuak hdd led supposed to indicate that the disk is spinning or that the disk is being read? 14.52.47 # Spinning, I'd think 14.56.19 Quit mf0102 (Remote closed the connection) 14.56.42 # really? I would have guessed only when read - or how does it work on flash targets? 14.57.41 # Good question! 14.58.11 # I'm pretty sure it's just on read/write. 14.58.43 # Since if you turn dircache off, and access the file browser it only shows briefly, I thought, even though the disk doesn't spin down for a few seconds. 14.58.56 # * Llorean could just pick up a player and check, but it's in the other room. 14.59.14 # I just checked with my H300 and it seemed to be on until spindown, but I might be wrong 14.59.36 # It was impressively hard to get a spinup to occur, I know that ;) 14.59.42 # Had to skip back lots 15.00.42 # yes, when turning of dircache the disk icon is only shown biefly 15.01.18 # Yes, far shorter than the 5s spindown time i've got set. 15.01.25 # * Llorean should probably shorten that. 15.01.26 # on my M5 it seems to only indicate the read. I use it in my WPS and it "turned off" when buffering was finished but the disk was spinning for a bit (of course) 15.01.41 Join LambdaCalculus37 [0] (n=44a0430f@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-8d09ef5e66833799) 15.01.45 # Ah, I'm talking about the status bar icon, same I assume.. 15.01.50 # Yes 15.02.14 # It is read/writem sorry 15.02.15 Join perrikwp [0] (i=9821707c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-9636f53220b3f69a) 15.02.30 # My spindown time (5 seconds) was too slow to tell. 15.02.48 # pondlife: i think on rebuffering the disk shuts down immediately after reading no matter what the disk spindown time is set to, so in that case there should be no difference. 15.02.53 Join domonoky [0] (n=Domonoky@rockbox/developer/domonoky) 15.03.00 # * Llorean wonders why the minimum spindown is 3 seconds. 15.03.08 # * pixelma goes looking for spindown time - uses the default 15.03.32 # * LambdaCalculus37 keeps his spindown time at 5 seconds 15.03.55 # which seems to be the default (i.e. same here) 15.03.57 # I had 5 seconds set, but as PaulJam said, it doesn't wait that long after buffering 15.04.03 # Mine was at the default, but since I use dircache I don't see any reason I shouldn't set it as low as it goes. 15.04.07 Quit perrikwp (Client Quit) 15.04.38 Join dabujo [0] (i=xx@p4FDB1971.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 15.06.07 # for me it seems to be 5 seconds from "buffering finished" with virtual led turning "off" until the disk stops spinning 15.08.01 # the build I'm running is a bit old though 15.09.40 Part LinusN 15.26.54 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 15.28.23 Quit DerPapst (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 15.31.52 Join DerDome [0] (n=DerDome@dslb-082-083-236-082.pools.arcor-ip.net) 15.35.50 Join perrikwp [0] (i=98214a02@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-06981f797092dd63) 15.35.59 Part pondlife 15.45.24 Join DerPapst [0] (n=Der_Paps@p5B23F22F.dip.t-dialin.net) 16.03.46 Quit PaulJam (".") 16.03.55 # any volunteers to finally rework batt_bench to not poll the disk? 16.04.06 Quit Ragnor (Nick collision from services.) 16.04.16 Join Ragnor [0] (n=Ragnor@dslb-084-060-181-079.pools.arcor-ip.net) 16.11.57 # barrywardell: hey, I found your splash image in the bootloader patch but its not in sync anymore and manaully patching the Makefile didnt seem to work... mind having a look at syncing it when you have some time? 16.14.38 Part B4gder 16.14.57 Join Nico_P [50] (n=nicolas@rockbox/developer/NicoP) 16.17.35 Quit CaptainSquid ("Miranda IM!") 16.23.33 Quit domonoky (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 16.25.03 Quit miepchen^schlaf (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 16.25.30 Join miepchen^schlaf [0] (n=miepchen@p54BF65F8.dip.t-dialin.net) 16.28.10 Join MTee [0] (n=MT@41.233.133.230) 16.35.54 Quit perrikwp ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") 16.42.20 Join mcuelenaere [0] (n=mcuelena@rockbox/developer/mcuelenaere) 16.42.39 Quit desowin ("KVIrc 4.0.0 Insomnia http://www.kvirc.net/") 16.43.02 Join desowin [0] (n=desowin@atheme/member/desowin) 16.44.35 Quit EspeonEefi ("さよなら") 16.44.36 Join midgey [0] (n=tjross@c-71-205-31-207.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) 16.44.53 Join KarlTPB [0] (n=3b5efaf6@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-d325f2982de15fa6) 16.47.29 Quit KarlTPB (Client Quit) 16.47.47 Join KarlTPB [0] (n=3b5efaf6@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-3288b64c04cc91c9) 16.49.15 # Hi I'm Karl 16.49.46 # * GodEater would never have guessed from the nick 16.50.38 # I was looking for someone to grant me write permission to wiki 16.50.50 # what's your wiki name ? 16.50.59 # KarlTPB 16.51.14 # you either didn't read the wiki name guidelines, or chose to ignore them 16.51.25 # we won't grant write permissions to a name like that 16.51.32 # it must be FirstnameLastname 16.52.05 # Ah, I'm sorry 16.52.26 # if you create another user with the right format name 16.52.26 # Should I create another account or I can edit my username? 16.52.34 # you'll have to create another 16.52.36 # Alright 16.52.45 # I'll grant it rights 16.53.56 # Okay it's done... My username is KarlAnderson 16.54.08 # My account is activated, by the way 16.54.38 # 'tis done 16.54.43 # you have permission to edit 16.54.59 # go forth and document :) 16.55.30 # Thanks 16.55.34 # no problem 16.57.43 Quit KarlTPB ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 17.02.08 Join CO-ke [0] (i=Boost@124.81.202.5) 17.02.49 # * linuxstb would have asked what edits he was planning to do... 17.02.49 # can ne1 help me? 17.03.12 # linuxstb: I guess it's a WPS 17.03.25 Join FOAD_ [0] (n=dok@dinah.blub.net) 17.03.39 # CO-ke: ne1 is not around at the moment (see topic ;) ) 17.03.41 # i installed rockbox to my ipod nano...n it failed 17.03.42 # CO-ke: i dont think "ne1" is around right now.. 17.03.47 # bah...beaten 17.04.21 # ne1 = anyone 17.04.22 # my bad 17.04.39 # CO-ke: then please say "anyone...we request that people use real english here ;) 17.04.40 # CO-ke: how did it fail and what generation Nano do you have? 17.05.23 # it's the 1st gen nano 17.05.28 # scor: sorry :P 17.05.47 Join mf0102 [0] (n=michi@85.127.21.196) 17.05.52 # it says fail to extract the files 17.06.04 Quit midgey () 17.06.18 # n now i cant even use the ipod....except the HD mode 17.07.49 # it's like the ipod has no firmware...it keeps booting the apple logo 17.08.04 # Did you read the manual? 17.08.16 # yes i did 17.08.18 # CO-ke: what are you using to install? 17.09.04 Join pondlife [50] (n=Steve@rockbox/developer/pondlife) 17.09.14 # i used the rockbox utility 17.09.25 # Nico_P: ping 17.09.30 # n chose the complete installation 17.09.50 # CO-ke: could you try installing the bootloader again and tell us exactly what it says? 17.09.58 # k 17.10.03 # and stop saying "n"...like i siad...real english here please ;) 17.10.53 # :) 17.11.11 # ok...fail to make directory 17.11.21 Quit gevaerts ("work->home") 17.11.43 # "unable to make directory" 17.12.31 # What OS are you running? 17.12.38 # Windows? OS X? Linux? 17.12.39 # xp 17.12.52 # Hello all 17.12.52 # With administrative rights? 17.13.06 # yes 17.13.45 # is rockbox's code in C or Cpp ? 17.13.54 # C 17.14.09 # With a little assembler here and there for some platform-specific bits. 17.14.28 # and optimization in a few places ;) 17.14.41 # hmmm...is it possible that the ipod is full may have caused this? 17.14.44 # how long does it normally take to learn assembler ? 17.14.49 # CO-ke: sure... 17.14.57 # Depends on how determined you are. :) 17.15.10 # well I 17.15.10 # MTee: for the most part, you dont really need to know assembly 17.15.15 # yeah, that's very much a "how long is a piece of string?" question 17.15.22 # MTee: That's like asking how long it takes to learn to speak English... 17.15.28 # scor: is there anyway i can fix this? 17.15.36 Quit atrus () 17.15.43 # CO-ke: put it in disk mode and delete some files 17.16.29 # Or if RBUtil isn't working for you, try the manual install method listed in the manual. 17.16.59 Quit FOAD (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 17.17.00 Nick FOAD_ is now known as FOAD (n=dok@dinah.blub.net) 17.17.06 # yeah yeah, I know it depends on plenty different things .. I meant as an average .. if I'm really determined, and let's say I'll work on it like full time .. then how long ? 17.17.10 # god: i'm in disk mode...but all the files look weird...and the size of some files are like 4gigs each 17.17.12 # LambdaCalculus37: that won't help if the ipod is full though... 17.17.38 # Co-ke: Sounds like your filesystem may be corrupted. 17.18.10 # Run CHKDSK /f on it from the command prompt. 17.18.18 # lambda: that's what i thougt too...i can't delete any of the files 17.19.18 # The drastic measure to take would be restoring your iPod in iTunes, then. 17.19.37 # I'd run the chkdsk /f first... 17.20.13 # GodEater: That's why I said it's the "drastic measure". 17.20.22 # lambda: itunes won't recognize the ipod :( 17.20.30 # CO-ke: chkdsk /f 17.21.09 # And tell us what it says. 17.23.17 # lambda: can't run... "dismounted the drive?" yes/no? 17.25.03 Join toffe82 [0] (n=chatzill@h-74-0-180-178.snvacaid.covad.net) 17.26.19 # What *exactly* does it say? "Dismounted the drive?" makes it sound like your PC's confused. 17.26.56 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 17.27.19 Quit desowin (Remote closed the connection) 17.27.21 # sorry ...i guess i'm a bit panicking :p 17.27.45 # it say the drive was used by another process 17.27.56 # CO-ke: Quoth Douglas Adams... "DON'T PANIC". 17.28.08 # lolz 17.28.25 # Close RBUtil and iTunes, then try again. 17.28.30 # wait... i did the check disk using the explorer 17.28.43 Join desowin [0] (n=desowin@atheme/member/desowin) 17.28.50 # itunes recognized the ipod 17.29.33 # i have to restore the ipod before i can use it 17.29.54 # Restore it, then. 17.30.22 # It's not the best solution, but it's the only solution when all other possible solutions have been exhausted. 17.31.56 # I still think the chkdsk will work 17.32.03 # provided all the itunes services are shut down 17.32.10 # means no music will disappear.... 17.32.14 # i guess so...i've always wanted to format it anyways 17.35.28 Quit MTee () 17.35.37 # JdGordon: Hi. I have done some work on resyncing that patch. I'll try to get something up later today 17.35.51 # * GodEater wonders why people are so keen on formatting their players 17.36.53 # barrywardell: Is the intention to commit? I've forgotten all the arguments about boot logos now... ;) 17.39.04 Join gevaerts [0] (n=fg@rockbox/developer/gevaerts) 17.39.24 Quit mf0102 (Remote closed the connection) 17.39.40 Join mf0102 [0] (n=michi@85.127.21.196) 17.40.58 # barrywardell: Does your patch require a copy of all the bitmaps in the bootloader directory? 17.41.31 # linuxstb: eventually I think it would be nice on sansa in particular 17.41.35 # Is that boot logo built into the bootloader? 17.41.42 # amiconn: yes 17.41.53 # Loading the bootlogo from disk is undesired 17.42.13 # Logo within bootloader might be okay, depending on the target's bootloader size constraints 17.42.22 # barrywardell: How does the transition from bootloader to main binary look? 17.42.23 # linuxstb: if (when) we replace the sansa bootloader completely, I think a bootlogo would be nice 17.42.26 # E.g. on H1x0/H300, it might be impossible 17.43.05 # amiconn: I agree. that's why it's included in the bootloader. I was considering including compression at some stage to allow it to fit bettter too 17.43.09 # That reminds me - I need to work on bitmap struct headers and a universal bitmap drawing function... 17.43.47 # linuxstb: fairly smooth. I think it looks well apart from the background changing (the bootloader currently sets the background to black) 17.44.21 # Then I will probably also add compressed bitmap support for colour targets (the nice lightweight and open UCL compression we already use for archos flash images and self-extracting images) 17.45.30 # amiconn: that would be great to have :) 17.46.36 # * pondlife wonders if bitmap resize is likely to be included... 17.48.37 # That's completely disjunct from those drawing functions 17.48.49 # Thought it might be. 17.50.13 # amiconn: Would that function just handle mono/native, or other depths? 17.50.33 # There are no other depths at the firmware level 17.51.10 # That's what I'm asking - if you want to change that. I assume the answer is no... 17.51.14 # It will handle mono/native/transparent 17.51.59 # OK. It's just that the word "universal" implied (to me) more... 17.52.46 # barrywardell: (repeat) Does your patch require a copy of all the bitmaps in the bootloader directory? 17.52.53 Join co-k3 [0] (i=Boost@124.81.197.131) 17.53.14 # sorry i got disconnected 17.53.14 # linuxstb: I see absolutely no reason to allow more than those formats for internal purposes 17.53.38 # amiconn: No, nor do I - I'm not suggested you add them. 17.53.52 # anyways...i'm restoring my ipod 17.54.08 # thanks you guys for helping me 17.54.15 # linuxstb: oh, sorry. missed that question. It expects a bitmaps directory structure like there is in apps already 17.54.33 # The "universal" part refers to the fact that there will only be one pair of lcd_bitmap()/lcd_bitmap_part() (right now there are 3 - the mentioned one, plus _mono and _transparent variants) 17.54.45 # So that needs fixing - assuming we don't want duplicated copies of all the bmps. 17.55.17 Join styleism [0] (n=styleism@87-194-104-214.bethere.co.uk) 17.55.30 # linuxstb: yes, probably best to fix it 17.55.34 # We also need another bitmap build fix, if we don't want to inflate the number of folders in svn 17.55.50 # Right now we have mono/native for main/remote 17.56.35 Quit fyrestorm (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 17.56.45 Join Davide-NYC [0] (n=chatzill@user-0cev9vm.cable.mindspring.com) 17.56.55 # With that unification, more variants will be added: transparent, and optional compression for native and the native part of transparent 17.57.07 # Oh, and not to forget greylib-native 17.57.18 # jhMikeS: ping 17.57.22 # can i sync my rockbox'd ipod using itunes? 17.57.57 # yes, but i am not sure why one would want to.. 17.58.12 # co-k3: If you wish, but then you're limited to music types itunes thinks your ipod can play, and you won't be able to use the file browser to view your files (itunes obfuscates the filenames) 17.58.16 Join fyrestorm [0] (n=fyre@cpe-68-173-171-53.nyc.res.rr.com) 17.58.18 # Davide-NYC: Hi! :) 17.58.26 # hello! 17.58.44 # co-k3: Plus anything purchased off of the iTunes store won't work in Rockbox due to DRM. 17.59.06 # LambdaCalculus37: they have drm-free files 17.59.26 # ic...any suggestion for a good, easy to use software? 17.59.52 # to anyone with a sansa c2x0 series player: please check to see if you can reproduce this recording problem: http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=16663.0 17.59.52 Quit CO-ke (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 17.59.54 # co-k3: well, that is getting a bit offtopic here, but i just use a file browser and manage it myself with folders 18.00.12 # Davide-NYC: Roger that; will do. 18.01.07 # scor: that would be the best for me then :) 18.01.16 # The forum user "lee321987" is reporting noise in his recordings with one (and not the other) c2x0 unit. After looking at the waveform I see a small DC offset. I hope this is not hardware revision related. 18.01.56 # meaning that I hope it is not a "hardware bug" in a certain portion of C2x0 series players. 18.02.01 Join faemir [0] (n=daniel@88-106-220-26.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) 18.02.02 # Over and out! 18.02.04 # :-) 18.02.17 Quit Davide-NYC ("ChatZilla 0.9.81 [Firefox 2.0.0.14/2008040413]") 18.02.18 # Davide-NYC: Mine's a c240; I just recorded a small MP3. Want me to send it to you? 18.02.23 # Oops. 18.02.43 # * LambdaCalculus37 will take a look at the MP3 during lunch 18.03.48 Join nplus [0] (n=npl@141.25.globcom.net) 18.06.43 # JdGordon: updated the patch ;) 18.08.04 Quit XavierGr (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 18.09.56 # linuxstb: my updated patch (bootlogo3) reads the bitmaps from the apps dir instead 18.11.52 # JdGordon: one caveat of the current patch. 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Windows mounts the two disks (internal and microSD) as two different drives, whereas Rockbox uses a Unix-style system of mounting the card as part of the filesystem of the main disk. 22.29.37 Quit ISPgeek () 22.30.45 Join ISPgeek [0] (i=ISPgeek@6532158hfc168.tampabay.res.rr.com) 22.33.10 Quit simonrvn ("reboot: new kernel") 22.36.02 Nick Bagder_ is now known as Bagder (n=daniel@1-1-5-26a.hud.sth.bostream.se) 22.36.59 Join barrywardell [0] (n=barrywar@rockbox/developer/barrywardell) 22.38.02 Quit ISPgeek () 22.38.11 Quit nplus (Remote closed the connection) 22.43.54 # linuxstb: I think I saw once that Rockbox played files from the internal memory (of my Ondio though) with a playlist that was made while those files where on a MMC and then cut from there. Wouldn't it need to skip the drive letter in order to make external playlists work at all? Isn't the problem rather that the files on an external memory get the referenced as e.g. /...? Maybe I'm misunderstanding though... 22.46.00 Join cpbills [0] (i=fool@71.89.134.11) 22.46.21 # just wanted to say thank you. rockbox rocks. 22.48.40 Join simonrvn [0] (i=simon@unaffiliated/simonrvn) 22.49.08 # Thank you. Have fun with it :) 22.49.25 # and i guess while i'm here; with the sansa e200 series, can you charge via usb to a computer and use rockbox at the same time? i suspect this might have to do w/ usb mode in the original firmware...? 22.49.41 # pixelma yes you have to change e.g. k:\ to /\ 22.49.49 # gevaerts: i am... it's very cool, and i was able to breathe some life into my 3rd gen ipod as well... no more itunes garbage... 22.50.37 # cpbills: If you hold Select while plugging in it will charge while staying in rockbox. At some point we'll probably also have native rockbox usb storage handling, but that's not finished yet 22.52.02 # gevaerts: excellent, thank you... i was looking in the docs for it... is it mentioned in there somewhere? 22.52.09 # gevaerts: On 3rd gen? That's PP5002... 22.52.16 # linuxstb I didn't expect it to work but would very much like it to work 22.52.30 # amiconn: different line. This is e200 22.53.02 # yeah, sorry for the confusion :) 22.53.29 # * amiconn wonders how much RE it would need to make USB work on 3rd Gen though 22.55.25 # when creating a playlist from a directory, it doesn't 'recursively' add other playlists, does it? just out of curiousity 22.55.42 # It does if you tell it to 22.55.47 # cpbills: I can't find the charge thing in the manual 22.55.47 # no 22.55.56 # sorry... 22.55.58 # It does not add other *playlists* 22.56.01 # I misread it 22.56.14 # amiconn: good, thanks :) 23.05.53 Join hopenglish [0] (n=4ce2c7b1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-706a3cbc06ed361a) 23.06.26 # iPod Video 30Gig. Database loading freezes... Any help? The iPod is blank... reformatted and from scratch. 23.08.24 # hopenglish: freezes in what way ? 23.09.42 # it says Database initializing... attempts to load files (several hundred) though, again, the device is blank. 23.10.10 # If I do a reset and attempt to initialize the device again, it seems another file gets added to the number. 23.15.25 # It's normal that it "finds" a lot of files. Those are the contents of .rockbox, but they end up being ignored since they are not audio 23.15.43 # so how long do I have to wait? 23.16.32 # I'm not sure... 23.17.30 Join linuxstb_ [0] (n=linuxstb@rockbox/developer/linuxstb) 23.17.34 Quit linuxstb (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 23.17.40 # Anyway, you shouldn't hard reset it. Just shutdown and restart is fine 23.17.52 Nick linuxstb_ is now known as linuxstb (n=linuxstb@rockbox/developer/linuxstb) 23.20.10 # thanks... 23.20.17 # I'm going to keep trying. 23.21.23 # I'm not really a database user, so I can't help much more. 23.23.16 # Interesting. lol. I don't need to use the database? 23.23.38 # It's only going to be used for several files as part of my company... 23.24.14 Quit toffe82 (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 23.24.35 # You can find your files both via the database and via the "Files" menu 23.26.23 # That makes sense... 23.26.27 # Excellent. 23.27.05 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 23.27.06 # This is for my company... So I and the rest of NuVision Technologies thank you... 23.27.42 # It's so simple, yet... I'm learning a lot of this technology on my own and sometimes I can't get my head around even the basic stuff. 23.29.44 Join lee-qid [0] (n=liqid@p54965D91.dip.t-dialin.net) 23.30.23 # I don't know if you have read the manual, but if you haven't I recommend reading it 23.32.31 Join lee-qid_ [0] (n=liqid@p54967CB5.dip.t-dialin.net) 23.33.44 # I've read bits and pieces of it... I do so much reading on a computer screen in a day through research and what not, that reading 150 pages straight through would make me blow a gasket. . 23.34.11 # I attempted to look through the database section but I must have missed the alternative of using Files. 23.34.13 # * gevaerts can understand that 23.35.16 Quit lee-qid_ (Client Quit) 23.35.56 # Our administrative assistant is pretty eco-conscious so I can't unfortunately print out every 150 pg manual that I need to read... Well, I could but not if I want to stay on her good side... I may start buying my own non-tree-killing paper and using that... 23.36.26 # eek..dont print it out! 23.36.44 Quit faemir (Remote closed the connection) 23.38.52 # What if I don't kill trees while doing it? Like recycled or tree-free paper? 23.39.04 # I may need to use this program quite a bit for my company... 23.43.34 # what'dya say, scorch? 23.44.21 # And then I'll go outside and plant a tree. 23.45.26 # I think it depends on what you need to do with it. If you only need the manual to get started, don't print it. 23.46.08 # If you need to have lots of different people use rockbox pretty in-depth, printing might make sense 23.46.35 # Or just point them to the URL of the online version... 23.47.00 # * gevaerts thinks that this is getting off-topic 23.47.20 Join Xerion [0] (n=xerion@cp198589-d.landg1.lb.home.nl) 23.47.48 # maybe... it's still about RockBox though... 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