--- Log for 18.05.108 Server: leguin.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot_ Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 15 days and 10 hours ago 00.00.16 # BigBambi: you can do it somewhere at least but i don't remember... 00.00.21 # BigBambi: Using a _PRE macro should fix that problem 00.01.05 # amiconn: So what would that line look like? If I have #define VIEWER_AUTOSCROLL BUTTON_PLAY and I want autoscroll to happen only when play isn't used in a combo? 00.01.08 Join fyrestorm [0] (n=fyre@cpe-68-173-171-53.nyc.res.rr.com) 00.01.38 # First, you need to check whether another target already uses VIEWER_AUTOSCROLL_PRE 00.01.38 Quit Nico_P (Remote closed the connection) 00.01.44 Quit bertrik ("bye") 00.02.00 Join CyBergRind|w [0] (n=cbr@212.98.160.130) 00.02.07 # If this is not the case, you need to add the code to handle it 00.02.22 Quit linuxstb (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 00.02.23 # aha, the ondio does 00.02.28 Join linuxstb [0] (n=linuxstb@rockbox/developer/linuxstb) 00.02.39 # so just do #define VIEWER_AUTOSCROLL_PRE BUTTON_PLAY 00.02.39 # Then you would set #define VIEWER_AUTOSCROLL_PRE BUTTON_PLAY and #define VIEWER_AUTOSCROLL (BUTTON_PLAY|BUTTON_REL) 00.02.49 # amiconn: awesome, thanks 00.02.58 # yes, I see it in the ondio one 00.03.03 # thanks very much 00.03.22 Join dabujo [0] (i=xx@p4FDB0C98.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 00.05.50 Quit davina (Remote closed the connection) 00.07.20 Join Rob2222 [0] (n=Miranda@p4FDCFFF3.dip.t-dialin.net) 00.11.51 # right, gcc3.4 ices in a couple of places when building with profiling :) 00.11.58 Join spiorf [0] (n=spiorf@host126-226-dynamic.25-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) 00.12.42 # Bagder: do you think it is too early to add the S as a target to flyspray? 00.13.09 # If anyone would like to look at a quick add missing buttons for text viewer on the S: http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/9004 00.13.10 # the addresses generated by the profiler on arm look like garbage anyway 00.14.46 # interstingly, it claims two functions use 80% of total ticks, though i dont know which they are 00.17.51 # saratoga: which codec? 00.17.58 Quit cbr|w (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00.18.06 # n1s: still mp3 00.18.26 Quit fyre^OS (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 00.18.34 Quit crope` ("Leaving") 00.18.47 # i'm testing vorbis on my h320 now 00.19.13 # hope it works better on coldfire 00.23.14 # I have init complete and file not found after install the nk.bin on the S ? 00.23.25 Quit Rob2223 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00.23.37 # toffe82: Yes, that seems to happen sometimes for an unknown reason 00.23.42 # toffe82: in the rockbox bootloader? 00.23.55 # yes 00.24.04 # and the system reboot 00.24.09 # last svn 00.24.35 Quit bluebrother ("leaving") 00.24.43 # I try again 00.25.07 # toffe82: I experienced that once. I did a full recovery and reinstall of the OF, then a reinstall of Rockbox, and it worked... 00.25.36 # ok 00.25.41 # I try that 00.26.42 Join Xqtftqx [0] (i=4cbd373c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-fed29e04fd5ac0f7) 00.27.01 # Hey guys, does video output on the beast work yet? 00.27.09 # Xqtftqx: no 00.27.22 # Thats what i though, does any target support video out? 00.27.48 # Xqtftqx: Not yet, no 00.27.57 # Alright, thanks 00.28.05 # Xqtftqx: Did you see I put a patch on the tracker for the text viewer 00.28.17 # saratoga: seems to work ok on coldfire 00.28.20 # No i didnt, ill go look now 00.28.31 Quit saratoga ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)") 00.28.54 # http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/2648 is that it? 00.29.15 # no... What is the date on that one! 00.29.31 # idk, thats the only once for text viewer i see 00.29.40 # .... 00.29.43 # 9004 00.29.44 Quit petur ("*plop*") 00.29.48 # Has anyone seen our two "new" students recently? Reading the SoC timeline, this is the "community bonding period" before coding starts on 26 May... 00.29.59 # Xqtftqx: You really should try reading things 00.30.08 # Xqtftqx: The one you linked was from 2005 00.30.19 Quit advcomp2019 (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 00.30.27 # ... 00.30.35 # BigBambi: Whats the link? 00.30.43 # I told you - 9004 00.30.52 # Oh sorry 00.31.40 # Thanks BigBambi 00.31.42 Quit desowin ("KVIrc 4.0.0 Insomnia http://www.kvirc.net/") 00.32.50 # Hey BigBambi If i compile this can i just override the .rock file in the viewers folder and not reinstall rockbox totaly 00.32.57 # good night 00.32.59 Quit Buschel () 00.33.10 # Xqtftqx: you need to compile everything 00.33.21 # I understand 00.33.23 # Xqtftqx: But yes, you can just copy over the new .rock 00.33.32 # Alrighty 00.33.58 # BigBambi to save me the time can you send me the rock? or no... 00.34.19 # yes, hang on 00.34.35 # Thanks, i dont want to download the Wmware thing on this laptop 00.35.59 Quit Falafel (" HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- s0 d4Mn l33t |t'z 5c4rY!") 00.36.30 # Xqtftqx: http://aeparker.com/files/viewer.rock 00.37.17 # Thanks 00.38.50 # Xqtftqx is having trouble downloading 00.38.59 # nvm i got it 00.40.34 Quit Xqtftqx ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") 00.42.58 Join linuxstb_ [0] (n=linuxstb@rockbox/developer/linuxstb) 00.43.50 Quit linuxstb (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 00.45.07 Nick linuxstb_ is now known as linuxstb (n=linuxstb@rockbox/developer/linuxstb) 00.45.24 Join Xqtftqx [0] (i=4cbd373c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-e662f89cf943fd72) 00.45.45 # BigBambi, i cant open any text files, i get "INcompatible Version" 00.45.59 # then you need to update the whole build 00.46.15 # Dang 00.46.48 # Im just gonna grab the viewer.rock form build 00.47.04 # I dont need line up and down now, ill do it later 00.49.50 # grrrr, even old one doesnt work 00.50.23 # Xqtftqx: If you update to latest SVN the one I sent should work 00.50.54 # Alright ill try, whats the link again? Sorry i lost it 00.51.03 # Xqtftqx: Look in the IRC logs 00.51.18 # Ok.... 00.51.55 Quit BlakeJohnson86 ("Leaving.") 00.52.13 # I have to go guys gettin something to eat 00.52.16 Quit Xqtftqx ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") 00.56.32 Join Xqtftqx [0] (i=4cbd373c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-03596ccbd5f4e977) 00.56.50 # BigBambi i cant find it in the logs, 00.57.01 # http://www.rockbox.org/irc/log-20080517 , its not in there 00.57.36 # Xqtftqx: That is yeserday only 00.57.48 # oh, wheres today's 00.58.08 # Nevermind i found it 00.58.10 Quit Xqtftqx (Client Quit) 00.58.23 Join BlakeJohnson86 [0] (n=bjohnson@c-24-118-135-22.hsd1.mn.comcast.net) 01.05.32 # about 50% of the ticks spent in tremor are in mdct... (however the profiler deinlines functions and that makes them drop into dram) 01.08.08 # Is the tracker down or something? 01.08.24 # ah, ok, working again 01.09.12 Quit n1s () 01.19.11 # some problem on a s30 and a s60 ??? 01.20.05 Quit nuonguy ("This computer has gone to sleep") 01.20.17 # the of formware boot ok with the lock on, and when booting rockbox , file not found ?? 01.20.32 # firmware ^^ 01.21.45 Quit gevaerts ("bedtime") 01.24.28 Join linuxstb_ [0] (n=linuxstb@rockbox/developer/linuxstb) 01.25.14 Quit moos (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 01.25.21 Quit BHSPitLappy (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 01.30.03 Quit domonoky (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 01.36.11 Quit linuxstb (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 01.37.02 Quit BlakeJohnson86 ("Leaving.") 01.43.02 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 01.47.10 Join advcomp2019 [0] (n=advcomp2@unaffiliated/advcomp2019) 01.47.53 # USB problem on the s30, the usb works only to update the firmware after it doesn't work, even in the OF 01.48.16 # toffe82: Could you rephrase, I didn't quite understand 01.48.38 # this S30 has a problem with the usb 01.48.48 # That one specifically? 01.48.55 # I can only update the firmware 01.49.09 # when I am on the OF , it didn;t connect 01.49.18 # the s60 is working now 01.49.33 # Rockbox USB shouldn't affect the OF though 01.49.40 # yes 01.49.55 # but even without rockbox, it doesn't work 01.50.04 # ah, gotcha 01.50.54 Quit ender` (" All power corrupts, but we need electricity.") 01.51.10 # but it is strange , what is the difference in the management of the usb when you update adn after ? I have to send it to gevaerts or Bertrik :) 01.51.26 # linux or windows? 01.51.46 # windows, linux from the virtual machine is the same 01.53.59 # and I don't think I have another board to replace it :( or perhaps I load direct to the hard drive :) 01.54.09 # but no usb 01.54.18 # :/ 01.59.50 Quit obo ("bye") 02.01.04 Nick fxb is now known as fxb__ (n=felixbru@h1252615.stratoserver.net) 02.09.52 Join BlakeJohnson86 [0] (n=bjohnson@c-24-118-135-22.hsd1.mn.comcast.net) 02.14.38 Nick JdGordon|zzz is now known as JdGordon (i=jonno@rockbox/developer/JdGordon) 02.19.44 Join x0rg62 [0] (n=x0rg62@ALille-256-1-77-95.w90-34.abo.wanadoo.fr) 02.19.46 # hello 02.20.02 # is the archos 104 supported by rockbox ? 02.22.59 # nope 02.23.12 # Only the players listed on the front page of www.rockbox.org 02.23.33 # :( ok 02.26.11 Quit dabujo (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 02.35.30 Join jpt1 [0] (n=jpt9@pool-68-163-195-179.bos.east.verizon.net) 02.35.37 # hey. 02.35.55 # does anyone know any good HDD-based rockboxable players that are reasonably easy to obtain? 02.36.06 # (preferably non-iPod) 02.38.58 # depends what you want 02.39.09 # Check www.rockbox.org/wiki/BuyersGuide 02.39.21 # but all are now discontinued 02.39.35 # any progress on newer devices? 02.39.42 # If you don't want radio/recording, gigabeat F in my view 02.39.48 # I have a Sansa e250R, and I absolutely love it, but I'd love to have more space on it. 02.39.54 # If you do want radio and esp. recording, iriver H100 02.39.54 # (for radio shows and audiobooks, mostly.) 02.40.38 # The gigabeat F often crops up cheap on ebay 02.40.53 # jpt1: get a 6/8gb microsd for it if thats enough 02.40.59 # not really... 02.41.17 Join linuxstb__ [0] (n=linuxstb@i-83-67-212-170.freedom2surf.net) 02.41.20 # well, I'd probably have to end up getting multiple cards, and then I'd have to juggle them and get a case that holds them... 02.43.17 Quit XavierGr () 02.49.24 Nick linuxstb__ is now known as linuxstb (n=linuxstb@i-83-67-212-170.freedom2surf.net) 02.49.44 Quit linuxstb_ (Nick collision from services.) 02.57.52 Quit jhMikeS (Nick collision from services.) 02.57.58 Join jhMikeS [50] (n=jethead7@rockbox/developer/jhMikeS) 03.00.25 Part jpt1 03.02.29 Quit herrwaldo (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 03.02.54 Quit jhMikeS (Nick collision from services.) 03.03.00 Join jhMikeS [50] (n=jethead7@rockbox/developer/jhMikeS) 03.03.55 Join nuonguy [0] (n=john@c-24-6-175-26.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) 03.15.12 # Is there a program that can be used to simulate what a .wps would look like without having to put it on the player yet? That'd make creating and testing them a lot easier. 03.16.09 # rasher.dk/rockbox has prebuilt simulators for all targets 03.16.38 # thanks :) 03.18.12 Join nick89 [0] (n=nick89@58.174.38.229) 03.19.04 Quit nick89 (Client Quit) 03.19.47 # I just have to get Darwine working again... 03.25.04 Join tedrock [0] (n=tedrock@d235-156-24.home1.cgocable.net) 03.28.17 Join linuxstb_ [0] (n=linuxstb@rockbox/developer/linuxstb) 03.28.54 # ugh, it's not working in darwine. 03.29.14 # guess i have to try parallels... *shudder* 03.30.09 Quit spiorf ("Non so cosa voglio, ma lo riconosco se lo vedo") 03.33.15 # Biiaru, or just build an OSX simulator. 03.34.15 Quit fdinel (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 03.36.19 # krazykit: I have no idea how I would go about doing that anyway. 03.36.27 # apparently the osx sim wont start, but i havnt had time to investigate 03.36.58 # Biiaru: you need xcode and sdl installed 03.37.20 # Well, I have XCode installed. Not so sure about libSDL. 03.37.34 # I might... it's been a long time since I've had to compile anything that used SDL. 03.40.19 Quit linuxstb (Read error: 101 (Network is unreachable)) 03.43.06 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 03.51.48 Quit DerDome (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 03.53.18 Join DerDome [0] (n=DerDome@dslb-082-083-205-042.pools.arcor-ip.net) 04.01.47 Quit bughunter2 ("Leaving.") 04.13.30 Join DrMoos [0] (i=moos@m198.net81-66-127.noos.fr) 04.15.47 # ok, can some explain that build error? 04.15.49 # /path/to/rockbox/build/apps/plugins/HTML_Parser.o: In function `html_parse': 04.15.51 # HTML_Parser.c:(.text+0x48c): undefined reference to `memcpy' 04.17.09 # simulator works 04.17.35 Join atrus [0] (n=atrus@d198-166-31-136.abhsia.telus.net) 04.19.00 Join BHSPitLappy [0] (n=BHSPitLa@unaffiliated/bhspitmonkey) 04.20.49 Quit DerDome (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 04.22.54 Join linuxstb__ [0] (n=linuxstb@i-83-67-212-170.freedom2surf.net) 04.23.08 Nick linuxstb__ is now known as linuxstb (n=linuxstb@i-83-67-212-170.freedom2surf.net) 04.23.10 Quit linuxstb_ (Nick collision from services.) 04.23.16 # kugel: Add "MEM_FUNCTION_WRAPPER(rb);" to the top of HTML_Parser.c - after the line static const struct plugin_api* rb; 04.23.17 # kugel: iiuc gcc uses it internally sometimes 04.23.56 # I used sizeof(), can that be related? 04.25.25 # guess not, other plugins use that too 04.25.29 # I think the most common cause is where you have initialised local variables - gcc will use memcpy to copy it onto the stack 04.27.09 Quit DrMoos ("good night") 04.27.41 # nutty idea #9999: The plugin API pointer should be in the plugin header and be initialized by the loader instead of passed as a param then it's initialized before ever running it 04.29.03 # Guys, that didn't help 04.29.46 # Now I get additionally this: http://pastebin.ca/1021539 04.30.50 # struct plugin_api* rb; MEM_FUNCTIONS_WRAPPERS(rb); 04.31.23 # I have: static const struct plugin_api* rb; 04.31.25 # MEM_FUNCTION_WRAPPER(rb); 04.31.30 # add the "S" :) 04.31.42 # ahhh 04.32.35 # meh, next time I don't copy and paste. My text editor's auto completition would have made me typed the S 04.34.03 # Thanks, that did the job 04.35.39 Join perrikwp [0] (i=4aa794a0@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-8917bd30faf7be92) 04.37.56 Join RoC_MasterMind [0] (n=Free@c-71-203-172-58.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) 04.40.28 Quit m0f0x (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 04.48.46 Quit leox (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 04.57.47 Quit nuonguy ("This computer has gone to sleep") 04.59.18 Join miepchen^schlaf [0] (n=miepchen@p54BF5EA8.dip.t-dialin.net) 05.02.46 Quit kugel ("ChatZilla 0.9.82.1 [Firefox 3.0b5/2008050509]") 05.05.24 Join BlakeJohnson87 [0] (n=bjohnson@c-24-118-135-22.hsd1.mn.comcast.net) 05.06.07 Quit miepchen^schlaf_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 05.10.36 Join leox [0] (n=leox@165-162-114-200.fibertel.com.ar) 05.16.58 Quit DerPapst (Nick collision from services.) 05.17.10 Join DerPapstr__ [0] (n=Der_Paps@p5B23DA62.dip.t-dialin.net) 05.17.54 Quit RoC_MasterMind ("Leaving") 05.18.47 Quit BlakeJohnson86 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 05.23.32 Join linuxstb_ [0] (n=linuxstb@rockbox/developer/linuxstb) 05.24.37 Join feyd2blak [0] (n=d201c5f5@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-405e28751bb780db) 05.24.54 Join chuklz [0] (n=dhuehner@69.37.212.60) 05.25.57 Part chuklz 05.26.09 Join feyd2blak_2 [0] (n=d201c5f5@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-38278832e95f158e) 05.27.06 Join chuklz [0] (n=4525d43c@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-c093fc2451f1bb4a) 05.27.49 # hi guys....I installed the gigabeat release yesterday, seems the centre of the cross/keypad no longer pauses....anyone experienced this?????/ 05.28.19 Join internode [0] (n=user@c-71-203-172-58.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) 05.29.08 # if you could help me with install walkthrough, i might be able to help 05.29.28 # if you can help me with install walkthrough, i might be able to help 05.29.35 Quit chuklz (Client Quit) 05.29.35 Quit feyd2blak ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)") 05.30.50 # oh ok....downloaded the rockbox.zip from the current build site "http://www.rockbox.org/daily.shtml" then replaced my .rockbox folder with the new .rockbox.... 05.30.55 Quit internode (Remote closed the connection) 05.35.46 Quit linuxstb (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 05.35.46 Quit feyd2blak_2 ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 05.43.08 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 05.45.43 Join feyd2blak [0] (n=d201c5f5@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-6bbb3f1397110a1c) 05.47.02 # Hi guys...please help...since updating yesterday my gigabeat now has the centre of the keypad s a menu return instead of pause....is this the correct behaviour???? 05.48.51 # anyone out there..... 05.49.08 # is it too early in the morning..... 05.49.23 Quit tedrock () 05.49.29 # its 2pm in here in Australia 05.52.00 # this chan is predominatly europe and usa... 05.52.16 # and its not 2pm anywhere in au yet :) 05.55.52 Quit Zarggg_ ("Pursued by a bear") 05.56.09 Join Zarggg [0] (n=z@216-15-73-111.c3-0.eas-ubr6.atw-eas.pa.cable.rcn.com) 06.03.16 Join jhulst [0] (n=jhulst@unaffiliated/jhulst) 06.20.09 # Hey JdGordon, are you a gigabeat owner???? 06.21.20 Join MethoS [0] (n=clemens@dyndsl-085-016-164-207.ewe-ip-backbone.de) 06.21.33 # have some patience.. 06.21.36 # Anyone a gigabeat owner????? 06.22.06 # < scorche|sh> have some patience.. 06.22.40 # sorry....used to MSN.... : ) 06.23.07 # I'm not 06.25.27 # cool...thanx....I'm backtracking through the changelogs to see if I can find when the last change to gigabeats controls happened.... 06.26.15 # wasn't Davide Gentile's change....the day before buggers the pause as well 06.30.55 # how long ago was your last upddate from? 06.32.13 # probably mid April....just tried the 30th April build and the pause is the same.... 06.33.30 # I'll try further back.... 06.37.55 # Just tried the 17th April build and the same thing happens.... 06.42.21 # feyd2blak: There was a Gigabeat keymap change back in August 2007 that switched the functionality of the "A" button and the "Select" button as referenced here http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=12407.0 06.43.14 # thanks perrikwp....I'll have a look now... 06.43.56 # feyd2blak: So the "A" button now pauses and the "Select" button brings you back to the last menu you were previously in 06.47.13 # cool, thanks again perrikwp....I'll get used to it.... 06.47.42 # feyd2blak: your welcome 06.49.29 # oh...i just thougt of something....cn the buttons be changed in the theme files, .wps???? or is it hard coded???? 06.51.09 Join desowin [0] (n=desowin@atheme/member/desowin) 06.51.50 # feyd2blak: It's hard-coded, in order to change what the buttons do, you would have to edit the source code and compile your own build 06.54.40 # cool....thanks again perrikwp 07.01.11 Quit feyd2blak ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 07.06.47 Join csc` [0] (n=csc@archlinux/user/csc) 07.08.06 Join m0f0x [0] (n=m0f0x@189-47-5-149.dsl.telesp.net.br) 07.17.27 Quit mackes ("I'm quiting for now.") 07.33.12 # I wonder why we have a wikipage listing what we all have 07.36.11 # to show off? 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10.21.51 # n1s: 10.22.47 # http://pastebin.ca/1021697 10.24.43 # wierd :p 10.29.39 # n1s: sorry, no idea... the root menu uses that macro and works fine so its not obvious what it could be.. and I have a bloody assingment to do cant spend much time on rb untill wedndesday 10.30.21 # ok, thanks for looking at it anyway :) 10.31.03 Join Mathiasdm [0] (n=Mathias@78-22-5-158.access.telenet.be) 10.31.10 Join homielowe [0] (n=eric_j_l@d205-250-152-29.bchsia.telus.net) 10.32.19 # I wouldnt expect the audio icon... 10.32.58 # Icon_Menu_functioncall would be possible... no idea where the audio one comes from though 10.50.24 Join tessarakt [0] (n=jens@e180064043.adsl.alicedsl.de) 10.54.56 Quit Zom (Remote closed the connection) 10.55.07 Join Zom [0] (n=zom@h-79-136-43-44.NA.cust.bahnhof.se) 10.57.30 Join mcuelenaere [0] (n=mcuelena@rockbox/developer/mcuelenaere) 10.58.53 # linuxstb__: the main difference between the 30 and the 60GB ZVM build are the firmware files (ie the header is different) + later there will be an other USB driver (which supports USB host mode) 10.59.00 Join davina [0] (n=davina@cpc1-sout6-0-0-cust616.sotn.cable.ntl.com) 11.11.51 Quit nuonguy ("This computer has gone to sleep") 11.13.27 Quit linuxstb__ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 11.13.34 Join linuxstb__ [0] (n=linuxstb@i-83-67-212-170.freedom2surf.net) 11.17.55 Nick linuxstb__ is now known as linuxstb (n=linuxstb@i-83-67-212-170.freedom2surf.net) 11.18.13 # mcuelenaere: Thanks - I found the discussion in the logs... 11.18.36 # linuxstb: the one between me and amiconn? 11.18.48 # Yes 11.22.31 # amiconn: sorry, you guys were right and I completely understood this guy: http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=16878.0 11.22.42 # understood -> misunderstood 11.24.52 Join ender` [0] (i=krneki@foo.eternallybored.org) 11.31.11 Join pixelma [0] (n=Marianne@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 11.36.27 # JdGordon: re. your forum post, preventing the OF database update does not work on the c200... 11.36.47 # at all? 11.36.59 # i mean.. its meant to? 11.37.18 # yes, because the c200 OF updates its database after USB disconnect (without rebooting) 11.37.29 # and not on USB connect 11.37.52 Quit amiconn (" HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <-") 11.37.56 # ah ok 11.39.12 # the Rockbox bootloader does not have a chance to zero the bits (or what it was) to prevent that but the write protect system folder works great - it's not preventing the update but shortening it to a few seconds 11.40.24 Nick fxb__ is now known as fxb (n=felixbru@h1252615.stratoserver.net) 11.42.39 Join spiorf [0] (n=spiorf@host126-226-dynamic.25-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) 11.43.09 Join Nico_P [50] (n=nicolas@rockbox/developer/NicoP) 11.43.15 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 11.48.23 Quit Horscht ("IRC is just multiplayer notepad") 11.48.52 Join Horscht [0] (n=Horscht@xbmc/user/horscht) 11.49.22 Join herrwaldo [0] (n=waldo@ip-81-11-223-95.dsl.scarlet.be) 11.50.27 Quit herrwaldo (Remote closed the connection) 11.50.31 Join MethoS_ [0] (n=clemens@dyndsl-085-016-163-237.ewe-ip-backbone.de) 11.53.46 # JdGordon: is your H300 working again now? 11.53.56 # pixelma: Have you thought any more about committing the c200 keymap changes, or are you still looking for more input? 11.54.08 # pixelma: i can charge it.. whats up? 11.54.35 # mind taking a look at the e.g. the star plugin menu (and FS #8998)? 11.55.05 # yeah, I saw that... ill get to it some time this week... doubtful before wed though 11.55.21 # thanks :) 11.55.40 Join herrwaldo [0] (n=waldo@ip-81-11-210-9.dsl.scarlet.be) 11.55.47 # although, I rekon I know hat the problem is so might be a quick fix 11.55.50 Join frodon [0] (n=frodon@unaffiliated/frodon) 11.56.40 # hello, i'm having some rockbox issue (i'm new user) on my sansa c200, any of you can provide some support ? 11.56.42 # BigBambi: I would want more input because there's still some problems/inconsistencies with it (in my own opinion) but it seems there is none... 11.57.21 # Yes, I was thinking given the lack of input, and that even with those inconsistencies the new map is a million times better than SVN... 11.57.41 Quit mcuelenaere (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 11.58.01 # frodon: welcome, we can only answer that question if you tell us more about your problem... ;) 11.58.03 # pixelma: Committing it is normally the only way to get people to test things.... 11.58.29 # pixelma: I guess I'd just like to see it in, and people have had *loads* of time to object 11.58.54 # BigBambi: I would have hoped that more people will look at it, since more developers now have a c200... 11.58.55 # * linuxstb can't see how anything could be worse than the current mappings... 11.58.59 # Small improvements can still be made afterwards, but it looks like nothing is going to happen... 11.59.06 # * BigBambi is with linuxstb 11.59.07 # thanks pixelma, i successfully installed rockbox through the usility but it seems that database initialization do not end 11.59.22 # pixelma: I know, but they haven't 11.59.38 # it stops after seeing 712 file and stay there 11.59.51 # linuxstb, BigBambi: do you mean all parts or just some? 11.59.56 # frodon: do you have any embedded album art 12.00.11 # possible 12.00.19 Join dabujo [0] (i=xx@p4FDB3158.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 12.00.30 # you mean cover pictures in album folders right ? 12.00.37 # pixelma: I'd put it all in, but at a minimum WPS/menu/file browser stuff 12.00.54 # pixelma: I'm less concerned about recording/fm as I use it less 12.00.57 # linuxstb, BigBambi: but I'd like to finish my sokoban changes first, everything's prepared now... 12.01.23 # pixelma: Oh, and virtual keyboard definitely, the current map for that makes me scream 12.01.31 # frodon: I mean album art in the tags 12.01.56 # then no 12.01.58 # frodon: Usually when the database gets stuck scanning it is on an unusual tag 12.02.06 Join pixelma_ [0] (n=Marianne@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 12.02.31 Quit pixelma (Nick collision from services.) 12.02.32 Nick pixelma_ is now known as pixelma (n=Marianne@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 12.02.48 # frodon: You could try a binary search - remove half your music and check, still a problem another half and check, etc, to see if you can find a problem file, then we can investigate that 12.03.12 # hum, all my tags are rather standard and works on other portable devices i have 12.03.21 Join domonoky [0] (n=Domonoky@rockbox/developer/domonoky) 12.03.23 # this is strange 12.03.57 # frodon: It could well be a bug in rockbox, but it would help in discovering and then fixing that bug if we knew which file was casuing the problems so we can check it out 12.04.01 Join Buschel [0] (n=abc@p54A3EB73.dip.t-dialin.net) 12.04.27 # http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=15678.0 here it says that files transferred in MTP mode can be an issue 12.04.49 # and it is what i did 12.05.02 # ah yes, I'd use MSC all the way 12.05.04 Join SaadSaeed [0] (n=chatzill@58.27.145.184) 12.05.11 # yo' 12.05.42 # where to set it in rockbox ? 12.05.43 # im looking for some feedback from rockboxers who have installed this firmware on a 6th gen ipod 12.06.01 # frodon: You use the Sansa firmware USB at the moment, so set it in there 12.06.14 # SaadSaeed: Rockbox doesn't work on 6th gen iPods 12.06.23 # no i use rockbox now 12.06.34 # noooOOoooOOooooOOooo 12.06.39 # frodon: Rockbox does not have a USB mode on the c200 12.06.51 # frodon: You have to use the Sansa firmware to transfer music 12.07.13 # SaadSaeed: The players it works on are listed on the front page of www.rockbox.org 12.07.15 # BigBambi: isnt iPod Video 60/80GB 6th gen? 12.07.19 # no 12.07.22 # 5.5 gen 12.07.31 # The 6th gen is the Classic 12.07.34 # so how to proceed, i guess it's trivial but i don't know 12.07.49 # BigBambi: any ports in the pipeline? 12.07.53 # frodon: In the Sansa firmware, set MSC mode then transfer your music like that 12.08.06 # SaadSaeed: Nope. Ports are done by interested owners 12.08.24 Quit einhirn_ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 12.08.28 # SaadSaeed: And the Classic has both an encrypted firmware, and completely new undocumented hardware 12.08.31 # BigBambi, you got me wrong, how to boot the sansa firmware now that i have rockbox ? 12.08.51 # ah shrugs... 12.08.52 # frodon: That is in the manual, but this time you hold left while it is booting 12.09.05 # ok thanks 12.09.20 # i am too late to catch on with the ipod (been using my trusty JBR 20 since a long time ago) 12.09.25 # does anyone know how many cycles a "mul" and "mla" take on an arm7? 12.10.35 Quit MethoS- (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 12.12.15 Join merbanan [0] (n=banan@83.233.163.48) 12.12.17 # Buschel: google tells me its 1 cycle for Mul and 2 for mla :-) 12.12.50 # domonoky: can we trust google? ;) 12.12.59 # http://infocenter.arm.com/help/index.jsp?topic=/com.arm.doc.ddi0337e/BABBCJII.html 12.13.03 Quit homielowe () 12.13.23 # hmmph read the ipod classic article on wikipedia 12.13.27 # says the same thing 12.13.36 # thx for the help BigBambi 12.13.37 Join gevaerts [0] (n=fg@rockbox/developer/gevaerts) 12.15.15 # * bertrik is confused by pluginlib_actions 12.15.59 # your unfortunatly not the only one :( 12.16.18 # * JdGordon is happy to admit he got that one wrong 12.16.18 # * SaadSaeed still keeps hopes up 12.16.47 # Buschel, domonoky: Are you talking about arm7tdmi (which is armv4) ? IIUC, that table shows armv7 - a high-end ARM architecture. 12.17.27 # pixelma: star was a stupid mistake and fixed.. the others im not so sure about... the best thing to do is almost hide the statusbar like star does... 12.17.43 # ups, i always get cought by those strange arm version numbering... 12.17.44 # linuxstb: yes, i am talking about arm7tdmi and Smul, Smla... 12.17.54 # Buschel: http://infocenter.arm.com/help/index.jsp?topic=/com.arm.doc.ddi0337e/BABBCJII.html 12.18.47 # pixelma: or get the colours from the curent theme 12.19.17 Quit spiorf (Remote closed the connection) 12.25.47 Join spiorf [0] (n=spiorf@host126-226-dynamic.25-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) 12.29.31 Quit MethoS_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 12.29.59 # Buschel: http://www.eecs.umich.edu/~panalyzer/pdfs/ARM_doc.pdf < this is better for Arm7tdmi, but no exact cycle counts... it depends on pipelining... 12.30.50 # and on the values you multiply, because it has early termination... 12.32.43 Join linuxstb_ [0] (n=linuxstb@rockbox/developer/linuxstb) 12.37.04 # pixelma: easy fix for the remaiing plugins.... change the 4th parameter of rb->do_menu() to false.... (if you have time and an itching to fix them...) 12.37.10 Quit linuxstb (Nick collision from services.) 12.37.11 Nick linuxstb_ is now known as linuxstb (n=linuxstb@rockbox/developer/linuxstb) 12.37.40 # ok i reloaded all my music in MSC usb mode, will see if it was the problem (database currently creating) 12.41.41 Join DerPapst [0] (n=Der_Paps@p5B23C1F1.dip.t-dialin.net) 12.48.32 Quit tessarakt ("Client exiting") 12.50.41 Join mcuelenaere [0] (n=mcuelena@rockbox/developer/mcuelenaere) 12.52.23 Join Lear [0] (i=chatzill@rockbox/developer/lear) 12.54.11 Quit Lear (Client Quit) 12.54.13 Quit pixelma (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 12.54.38 Join pixelma [0] (n=Marianne@p57B9E5CF.dip.t-dialin.net) 12.55.27 # * Buschel is confused about all these dependencies for cycle count of mul and mla 12.55.48 # seems like mul can be assumed to use 2-3 and mla 3-4 cycles 12.55.57 Join Lear [0] (i=chatzill@rockbox/developer/lear) 13.00.16 Join DerDome [0] (n=DerDome@dslb-082-083-205-042.pools.arcor-ip.net) 13.00.18 # but this contradicts several asm-optimizations that were made in yuv-conversion for example. 3 adds instead of mul (both multipliers zero for bits 31-8). 13.00.34 Quit DerDome (Remote closed the connection) 13.00.43 # this implies that mul is more expensive than 3 cycles 13.00.47 # ?? 13.01.10 Join pixelma_ [0] (n=Marianne@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 13.01.15 Join MrPopov [0] (n=d52fb4c6@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-30cd0968ab939e58) 13.01.38 Join DerDome [0] (n=DerDome@dslb-082-083-205-042.pools.arcor-ip.net) 13.01.50 # hey there 13.02.06 Join amiconn [50] (n=jens@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 13.03.10 Quit pixelma (Nick collision from services.) 13.03.10 Nick pixelma_ is now known as pixelma (n=Marianne@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 13.03.10 # i got a question concerning my e250 v2: is there any possibility to enqueue songs to my playlist, while I'm listening to it? 13.03.30 # MrPopov: Rockbox doesn't run on the v2 13.03.45 # oh! 13.03.48 # not good 13.04.26 # does rockbox have that feature? 13.04.30 # yes 13.07.15 # any chance rockbox might be available soon for the v2? 13.07.39 # Ports are done by interested owners 13.07.40 # or what other player would you recommend that supports rockbox? 13.07.53 # A few people have started looking - check out the New Ports forum 13.08.17 # www.rockbox.org/wiki/BuyersGuide 13.08.26 # hmm, when taking into account 50% of the multipliers are signed -> mul = ~4 cycles, mla = ~5 cycles. does this match what experienced asm-coder expect? 13.08.36 # *coders 13.09.26 # BigBambi, i have still the same issue reuploading all in MSC mode, except album art what could cause tag recognition problem ? 13.09.27 Join mf0102 [0] (n=michi@85.127.21.196) 13.09.28 # thanks 13.09.31 Quit JdGordon ("Konversation terminated!") 13.09.55 # any other opinions about my new sokoban graphics (posted a link yesterday here)? 13.09.58 # frodon: I don't know, you could do a binary search to identify the problem file 13.10.31 # what do you call a binary search ? 13.10.33 # frodon: Have you checked your disk for errors? e.g. with "chkdsk /f" ? 13.11.03 # did a dosfsck with no pb 13.11.15 # Buschel: mul can be 2..5 cycles depending on the operand where early terminations is implemented, mla and (s|u)mull are 3..6 cycles, and (u 13.11.20 Join opaaliola [0] (n=opaaliol@b-177-161.dsl.ipy.dnainternet.fi) 13.11.25 # |s)mlal is 4..7 cycles 13.11.34 Join JdGordon [0] (n=Miranda@c211-28-93-8.smelb1.vic.optusnet.com.au) 13.11.54 # Early termination is only implemented for one of the operands iiuc, but I don't know for which one 13.11.56 # frodon: I explained abinary search before, check the IRC logs 13.12.20 # frodon: A binary search is where you split your files into two halves. Test each half on your player, and if one half works, you know the problem file is in the other half. Repeat... 13.12.38 # Signedness doesn't matter, as early termination works for both all-zero and all-one bytes 13.12.55 # yep, i will found the problematic album but not the solution 13.13.24 # You have found the problematic track? 13.13.27 # frodon: The best solution is to make an example problem file available to a dev, so we can investigate and fix the bug in Rockbox. 13.13.47 # pixelma: I'm not a fanatic sokoban player, but I think the new ones look better 13.14.00 # pixelma: I much preferred your new graphics 13.14.16 # linuxstb, sure i was currently trying to do this 13.14.21 # cool, thanks. Will prepare a commit then 13.14.30 # could you point me where to fuill a bug report ? thanks 13.14.47 # frodon: there is a link marked bugs on the left of www.rockbox.org 13.14.56 # hi all! my 1st time here. sorry for commotion guys :) tell me should i really install rockbox in my video iPod? :D hav only read about it but i don't really know anything yet. 13.15.13 # opaaliola: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/WhyRockbox 13.15.14 # opaaliola: What answer do you expect in the rockbox IRC channel? :) 13.15.25 # haha 13.15.29 # who knows ;D 13.15.51 # opaaliola: Do you like itunes? 13.16.17 # maybe yeah. i use macintosh and itunes works well in here :) 13.17.39 # Then maybe Rockbox isn't for you - it basically ignores itunes... You also need to convert your ipod to "FAT32" format in order to use Rockbox. But Rockbox is easily uninstalled if you don't like it. 13.17.50 # and it dual boots 13.18.18 Part SaadSaeed 13.20.37 # is it really easy to remove? and if I want my pod back to basic apple-based software, it's not a hard stint? 13.20.38 Quit merbanan (Remote closed the connection) 13.20.48 # yes, it is easy 13.20.51 Quit JdGordon (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 13.21.07 # ok 13.22.09 # rockbox urers usually are windows or linux users I think ;) mut maybe I wouldn't be the only mac-guy here 13.22.25 # no, you are not the only mac person 13.22.31 Join lee-qid [0] (n=liqid@p5496758B.dip.t-dialin.net) 13.22.46 Join JdGordon [0] (i=jonno@c211-28-93-8.smelb1.vic.optusnet.com.au) 13.23.59 # BigBambi you mentioned about the dual-boot. Could I have more info about it somewhere? 13.24.08 # opaaliola: yes, in the manual 13.24.13 # k, thx 13.25.02 Quit MrPopov ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 13.27.28 Join linuxstb_ [0] (n=linuxstb@rockbox/developer/linuxstb) 13.29.41 Join austriancoder [0] (n=austrian@rockbox/developer/austriancoder) 13.30.24 # ok problem is not in tag 13.30.41 # if if update database by small parts it works like a charm 13.33.31 Quit linuxstb (Nick collision from services.) 13.33.33 Nick linuxstb_ is now known as linuxstb (n=linuxstb@rockbox/developer/linuxstb) 13.43.19 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 13.49.21 Join moos [0] (i=moos@m198.net81-66-127.noos.fr) 13.53.56 Join crope` [0] (n=crope@dyn3-82-128-186-233.psoas.suomi.net) 13.55.36 Quit Buschel () 13.55.44 Quit opaaliola ("Nähdäänpä taas ->") 13.55.54 Join K4rP4D [0] (n=KrPD@unaffiliated/krpd) 13.59.15 # hmmm, can't use queue_wait_w_tmo with argument ticks=TIMEOUT_BLOCK ? 14.03.43 Quit Horscht ("Snak 5.3.3 Unregistered copy. Evaluation period is over. 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Thanks for using Snak.") 14.05.34 # bertrik: Just use queue_wait() then... 14.07.42 Join XQTFTQX [0] (i=4cbd373c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-db9385005d069e8b) 14.08.23 # Is it possible to edit the gigabeat s bootloader to check for a file and if its there, boot into the orginal firmware? 14.11.32 # XQTFTQX: dual boot already works by booting with hold on... 14.11.58 # amiconn: ok, I'll do that, just seems that there's quite a bit of redundancy in various parts of the code, because there's both functions that block and functions that take a timeout argument 14.12.06 # I understand, i want to know if i can use the bootloader to check for a file, insted of using hold 14.12.20 # XQTFTQX: theoretically I guess so 14.12.40 # whould i need to edit the bootloader file or mknkboot? 14.13.47 # bertrik: There are often functions which are cut-down versions of more generic ones 14.14.09 # Actually this makes sense, because a function with fewer arguments needs less code to call it 14.14.32 # yeah, but they may need an additional if to decide which function (timeout or block) to call 14.14.51 # The effect is most noticeable when crossing the 4-argument boundary on SH1 and arm 14.14.54 # and I guess it increases the binsize 14.16.00 # Functions up to 4 arguments use regparms on those platforms 14.16.15 # ok, I wasn't aware of that 14.17.40 # I think I'll experiment a bit with it and see if it makes a difference 14.31.32 Quit XQTFTQX ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") 14.35.19 Join Horscht [0] (n=Horscht@xbmc/user/horscht) 14.41.55 Quit linuxstb (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 14.43.16 Join linuxstb [0] (n=linuxstb@rockbox/developer/linuxstb) 14.45.34 Quit mcuelenaere (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 14.45.55 Quit thegeek_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 14.48.26 Part x0rg62 14.52.05 Join mcuelenaere [0] (n=mcuelena@rockbox/developer/mcuelenaere) 15.01.30 Join ctaylorr [0] (n=ctaylorr@bas1-toronto43-1279533069.dsl.bell.ca) 15.01.52 # can someone with a m:robe100 try FS#9008 ? 15.11.28 # mcuelenaere: none of your apps.lds changes should effect the mr500 yeah? 15.12.42 Quit lymeca_ ("...and don't forget: 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0 !") 15.19.14 Quit mcuelenaere (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 15.19.58 Join bughunter2 [0] (n=Jelle@ip565fbeaa.direct-adsl.nl) 15.24.16 Quit perrikwp ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") 15.24.26 Join mcuelenaere [0] (n=mcuelena@rockbox/developer/mcuelenaere) 15.28.37 Join Xqtftwqx [0] (i=4cbd373c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-64da544ec3c43743) 15.28.49 # \name Xqtftqx 15.29.15 Part Xqtftwqx 15.29.20 Join Xqtftwqx [0] (i=4cbd373c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-64da544ec3c43743) 15.30.51 Quit Lear ("ChatZilla 0.9.82.1 [Firefox 3.0/2008051206]") 15.31.16 # JdGordon: normally, no 15.31.42 # not having much luck booting a regular build and trying to work out why 15.31.47 # bootloader build is fine 15.32.40 # hmm, maybe it's related to crt0.S? 15.32.50 # but I shouldn't have touched that either on the mrobe 15.33.36 # what's the latest build which works? 15.33.53 # no, I've changed my mind.. ive got debug lcd_printf's working 15.34.30 # one nice thing about the huge lcd is lots of room for debug lines :) 15.34.33 # :P 15.34.56 Join kugel [0] (n=chatzill@unaffiliated/kugel) 15.35.02 # crashing in audio_init() 15.36.27 # did you apply patches to your build? 15.36.44 # no, svn build 15.38.37 # where in audio_init() does it crash? 15.40.10 # dunno... finding out now... 15.40.23 # I've added about 20 printf() lines :( 15.40.27 # * JdGordon needs jtag 15.40.33 # :) 15.43.20 Join merbanan [0] (n=banan@83.233.163.48) 15.43.23 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 15.44.04 Join LambdaCalculus37 [0] (n=1800dac6@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-3da6278c4c1a85e7) 15.44.33 # linuxstb: Around? 15.44.34 Quit mcuelenaere (Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer)) 15.45.40 # yay infinite loop! 15.45.53 # LambdaCalculus37: Yes 15.46.18 # linuxstb: Got my m240 in the post yesterday. 15.46.27 # Which version? 15.46.29 # Original firmware version is 2.2.5A. 15.46.47 # I think that's a v1 then. IIRC the v2's OF is 4.x.x 15.47.45 # This is definitely a v1. 15.48.32 # It says "REFURB" on the bottom by the battery compartment. 15.49.22 # I'll try using tcctool to load something into it later. 15.49.27 Join mcuelenaere [0] (n=mcuelena@rockbox/developer/mcuelenaere) 15.49.51 # JdGordon: infinite loop where? 15.50.21 # LambdaCalculus37: If you wanted an easy task to help with the port, you could try to get the Sim building, and improve the keymappings... 15.50.33 # linuxstb: Yes, sir! :) 15.50.48 # mcuelenaere: setting the line in volume! 15.50.57 # it was my bad.. I stupped up adding vlume control 15.51.10 # I'll be back later on... need breakfast. 15.51.19 # * LambdaCalculus37 goes to have breakfast 15.51.20 Quit LambdaCalculus37 ("CGI:IRC 0.5.9 (2006/06/06)") 15.52.28 # does gcc not like having two files in different directories with the same filename? 15.53.37 # BigBambi why dont you commit the gigabeat s keymaps for the beast? 15.53.46 # for the text viewer 15.53.55 # Xqtftwqx: Because I don't have commit access :) 15.54.17 # Xqtftwqx: I'm sure someone will get to it, and if not I'll bug someone 15.54.29 # lol, yeah 15.56.08 # Im still puzzled while doom works in the simulator but not the real build 15.56.09 Quit mcuelenaere (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 15.56.13 # why* 15.56.34 # mcuelenaere: come baaaack! 15.56.51 # The sim and the target are *very* different environments 15.57.14 # It is a SIMulator not an EMulator 15.57.37 # Ohhhh, i see i was confused, I was thinking a emulator 15.57.45 # BigBambi: where is your patch? 15.57.53 # moos: 9004 15.58.07 # moos: It is just for the text viewer 15.58.13 Quit krazykit (Remote closed the connection) 15.58.19 # BigBambi: I'll take a look and commit it 15.58.20 Join krazykit [0] (n=kkit@ppp-70-225-141-204.dsl.ipltin.ameritech.net) 15.58.21 # moos: Adds some missing keympas, and frees up the volume keys 15.58.26 # moos: Thanks very much 15.58.36 # no problem 16.00.13 # anyone got an email address for mcuelenaere? 16.00.56 # pm him on the forums? 16.02.27 Join Arathis [0] (n=doerk@p508A4FDE.dip.t-dialin.net) 16.02.41 Join mcuelenaere [0] (n=mcuelena@rockbox/developer/mcuelenaere) 16.02.47 # BigBambi: seems nice 16.02.54 # cool :) 16.03.00 # JdGordon: back :) 16.03.08 # i got values for you 16.03.09 # * mcuelenaere blames my internet connection 16.03.18 # his* 16.03.20 # * JdGordon nearly went blind reading them off ?:p 16.03.22 # moos: I had amiconn's advice for the PRE stuff so should be OK (and I did test of course) :) 16.03.36 # BigBambi will that patch fix the keympas for the dict? does it use the text viewer as base? 16.03.49 # Xqtftwqx: no, just the text viewer 16.03.57 # What is up with dict (I don't use it) 16.04.03 # hold on 16.04.06 # JdGordon: could you pastebin them? 16.04.16 # on the way 16.04.44 # mcuelenaere: http://pastebin.ca/1021881 16.04.52 # * DerPapst doesn't even know how dict works :-P 16.04.54 # lol @ that loop in tsc2100.c :P 16.04.54 # hope thats ok, the names were too annoying to get 16.05.35 # no problem, they are in the order as in debug-dm320.c ? 16.05.43 # DerPapst: same 16.05.46 # :) 16.06.04 Join jpt9 [0] (n=jpt9@pool-68-163-195-179.bos.east.verizon.net) 16.06.06 # mcuelenaere: not sure.. read em straight off the debug screen.. so whatever spits them out there 16.06.07 # hey. 16.06.23 # Xqtftwqx: dict looks OK to me, there is only one key defined (for quit), and that is back 16.06.36 # I'm having a problem installing the latest voice files on my Sansa E250R using rockbox utility on Vista. 16.06.54 # It's trying to download "sansae200--english.voice". 16.07.00 # it gets a 404. 16.07.12 # My dicts not working, every word i lookup i get "(slang) a neibor" 16.07.22 # I haven't really been paying attention to the messages before, but I imagine it should probably be "sansa-e200-english.voice"? 16.07.39 # Xqtftwqx: Is that the exact error? 16.08.16 # its not a error, its what the definition says 16.08.19 # for every word 16.08.30 # Im doing a reboot of rockbox, that may fix it 16.08.32 # That sounds like a problem with your dictionary file 16.08.43 # What dictionary file are you using? 16.08.47 # its wierd, it wasnt happening before 16.09.18 # A reboot fixed it 16.10.01 # Nope theres no keymaps for the dict either 16.10.15 # wow, Olympus just leaves almost all clocks on on their m:robe 500.. 16.10.26 # moos: thanks 16.10.35 # I'll shut the flyspray 16.10.35 # BigBambi: no problem 16.10.40 # done too :) 16.10.48 # cool :) 16.11.11 # Maybe I'll reopen it then shut it :) 16.11.13 # JdGordon: mm I suppose these values are without the DSP patch applied? 16.11.22 # BigBambi: Ill add keymaps for the dict 16.11.25 # yeah, svn 16.11.27 # BigBambi: hehe :) 16.11.32 # Xqtftwqx: What keymaps? 16.11.41 # Theres no keymaps for scrolling in the dict 16.11.50 # mcuelenaere: I'm not sure if karl or cat have done any clock fiddling 16.11.53 # Xqtftwqx: there isn't for any target that I can see 16.12.00 # Realy? 16.12.07 # look in dict.c 16.12.30 # Hmm theres not, thats wierd 16.12.34 # JdGordon: they must have, otherwise the DSP would be runned without a clock? 16.12.48 # pluginlib_actions? or however thy're called 16.13.01 # Xqtftwqx: look at line 270 16.13.38 # Oh, hmmm 16.13.56 # also 322 16.14.12 # It isn't just a case of adding keymaps, you will need to extend the plugin 16.14.28 # Yeah i see that now 16.14.59 Quit mf0102 ("Ex-Chat") 16.15.03 Quit Ragnor (Nick collision from services.) 16.15.13 Join Ragnor [0] (n=Ragnor@dslb-084-060-185-009.pools.arcor-ip.net) 16.17.43 Quit spiorf (Remote closed the connection) 16.23.47 Part frodon ("Ex-Chat") 16.25.07 Join obo [0] (n=obo@rockbox/developer/obo) 16.27.39 Quit mcuelenaere (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 16.28.28 Join DrMoos [0] (i=moos@m198.net81-66-127.noos.fr) 16.28.47 Join DJF6 [0] (n=irc@84-105-201-37.cable.quicknet.nl) 16.29.02 Quit moos (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 16.29.08 Nick DrMoos is now known as moos (i=moos@m198.net81-66-127.noos.fr) 16.29.19 # hey. 16.29.21 # BigBambi, if i want to rearange a menu where is that stored? 16.29.39 # Xqtftwqx: main menu or a plugin? 16.29.52 # Main Meny 16.29.55 # Menu* 16.29.59 # is there any way to get an actual speech synthesizer on rockbox? 16.29.59 # I don't know for the core 16.29.59 Join gregzx [0] (n=chatzill@drg39.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) 16.30.11 # Dang 16.30.13 # jpt9: It's possible if someone writes/ports one 16.30.25 # Xqtftwqx: Do you mean in the source? 16.30.29 # Xqtftwqx: Try greping the source 16.30.31 # I think someone was working on eSpeak; that would be quite cool (I love the British voices) 16.30.38 Quit gregzx (Remote closed the connection) 16.30.41 # Yes the source 16.30.56 # jpt9: There was something on the tracker, but there was a v2 vs v3 GPL issue IIRC 16.30.57 # Xqtftwqx: apps/root_menu.c 16.31.05 # Thanks Kugel 16.31.05 # ah. 16.31.12 # that's annoying... 16.31.21 # how about Festival Lite or something? 16.31.50 # If the licence is compatible sure, but someone needs to port it 16.32.45 # Xqtftwqx: You only need line 392+ 16.32.51 # K thanks 16.33.14 # Xqtftwqx: &menu_ is the settings item, before you ask 16.33.20 Join mcuelenaere [0] (n=mcuelena@rockbox/developer/mcuelenaere) 16.34.09 Quit ctaylorr (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 16.36.22 # Can i change the name? Like change Database to Music? 16.36.53 # Xqtftwqx: You can do that just in a lang file I believe 16.37.06 # Alright Thanks 16.37.14 Join JdGordon_ [0] (i=jonno@rockbox/developer/JdGordon) 16.37.56 # Can i add a menu item? Like that opens a location in the file browser 16.37.58 # Xqtftwqx: alternatively you can change line 351 to say ID2P(LANG_MUSIC) instead 16.38.27 # Xqtftwqx: Yes you can (you can do nearly anything) 16.38.42 # How whould i do that* 16.39.50 # Xqtftwqx: take a look at http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/6988 16.40.18 # Ok thanks 16.43.24 Quit JdGordon (Nick collision from services.) 16.43.26 Nick JdGordon_ is now known as JdGordon (i=jonno@rockbox/developer/JdGordon) 16.44.52 # can somebody send me the s simulator? the site doesnt load 16.45.00 # nvm i got it 16.46.21 Quit mcuelenaere (Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer)) 16.46.58 Join XavierGr [0] (n=xavier@rockbox/staff/XavierGr) 16.47.40 Join thegeek_ [0] (i=thegeek@s220b.studby.ntnu.no) 16.49.15 # whould removing * remove that entry? 16.50.27 # yesm but thats not a good idea 16.51.23 # Why? 16.54.19 Part jpt9 17.00.39 Join goffa_ [0] (n=goffa@216.220.23.105) 17.10.25 Join gregzx [0] (n=chatzill@drg39.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) 17.14.13 Quit goffa (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 17.14.58 Quit Mathiasdm ("Yuuw!") 17.15.59 Join perrikwp [0] (i=4412a2b6@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-e65413d2cec95d2f) 17.18.06 Join Thundercloud [0] (n=thunderc@resnet04.nat.lancs.ac.uk) 17.19.28 Quit Xqtftwqx ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") 17.21.20 Join csc` [0] (n=csc@archlinux/user/csc) 17.25.12 Join KarlTPB [0] (n=3b5ef648@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-4a95572218d4a6a0) 17.25.17 # are scrollbars supposed to not fill their blank area with a solid colour? 17.25.33 # Hi I'm Karl 17.25.46 # Just came here for some quick help 17.26.06 Nick JdGordon is now known as JdGordon|zzz (i=jonno@rockbox/developer/JdGordon) 17.26.15 # KarlTPB: you need to ask a quetion forst 17.26.18 # *first 17.26.19 # good night JdGordon|zzz 17.26.22 # :-) 17.26.32 # I'm able to compile rockbox just fine, but checkwps is giving me some errors 17.26.53 # This is the message that gets displayed: 17.27.01 # In file included from apps/recorder/bmp.c:36: firmware/export/debug.h:25: error: parse error before "ATTRIBUTE_PRINTF" firmware/export/debug.h:25: warning: data definition has no type or storage class firmware/export/debug.h:27: error: parse error before "ATTRIBUTE_PRINTF" firmware/export/debug.h:27: warning: data definition has no type or storage class make: *** [checkwps] Error 1 17.27.32 Join toffe82 [0] (n=chatzill@70.235.224.243) 17.28.07 # I'm using revision 17564 17.28.18 # KarlTPB: Which target are you interested in? 17.28.50 # I'm interested in compiling the tool for ipodvideo 17.29.00 # Are you using cygwin? 17.29.00 Quit kugel (Remote closed the connection) 17.29.00 # I get errors in D2 and mrobe 500 but the others work 17.29.10 # but the error occurs for every target for me 17.29.27 # Yeah, I'm using cygwin 17.29.49 # Someone else reported that bug, but I don't think it's been fixed yet. 17.29.59 Join kugel [0] (n=chatzill@unaffiliated/kugel) 17.30.16 # Ah, okay 17.30.38 # I couldn't find it in the bug tracker though 17.30.39 # preglow: what scrollbars are you talking about? 17.30.49 # KarlTPB: It's an issue specific to cygwin. 17.31.01 # Oh I see 17.31.39 # Are any precompiled binaries available? 17.32.15 # I can probably build one for you... 17.32.35 # KarlTPB: I'll put one up now if you like 17.32.36 # Alright, thanks. I need one for ipodvideo though. 17.33.37 # http://aeparker.com/files/checkwps.ipodvideo 17.33.40 Join BlakeJohnson86 [0] (n=bjohnson@c-24-118-135-22.hsd1.mn.comcast.net) 17.34.13 # KarlTPB: http://www.davechapman.f2s.com/rockbox/checkwps-ipodvideo.zip 17.34.21 # hehehe :) 17.34.25 # a competition :) 17.34.31 # * linuxstb called his .exe though... 17.34.35 # Haha, thanks to both of you 17.34.51 # Yeah I noticed 17.34.53 # yeah, mine was a native linux one :) 17.35.02 # KarlTPB: I'd go with linuxstb 17.35.15 # * linuxstb notices BigBambi built a Linux binary... 17.35.31 # Haha, yeah 17.35.32 Quit faemir (Remote closed the connection) 17.35.33 # linuxstb: yes, it twigged afterwards what cygwin meant 17.35.52 # KarlTPB: That binary doesn't need cygwin - it's a normal win32 (console) .exe 17.36.08 # You run it from a normal command prompt. 17.36.36 # Thanks for letting me know. 17.37.14 # I'll leave now, thanks guys 17.37.30 Quit Horscht (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 17.37.54 Join Horscht [0] (n=Horscht@p4FD4C8BC.dip.t-dialin.net) 17.38.48 Quit KarlTPB ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 17.42.29 # pixelma: the "deleting..." progress bar seems to be a scrollbar in disguise, and backdrops seem to show through the unfilled area, at least on h1x0 17.43.24 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 17.44.09 # just tried to build checkwps 17.44.11 # failed 17.44.22 # on what? 17.44.47 # they build fine for me (xcept d2 and mrobe 500) on linux 17.45.08 # on a svn it works 17.45.16 # I guess many warnings though 17.45.39 Quit austriancoder (Remote closed the connection) 17.45.42 # except for the errors with d2 and mrobe 500 no warnings 17.45.43 # BigBambi: 32 or 64 bit? 17.45.46 # 32 17.46.03 # I guess it's 64bit issue then (the warnings) 17.46.24 # * linuxstb thinks these 64-bit users need to start submitting patches... ;) 17.47.40 # What was the command to make gcc print warnings in English? 17.47.57 # LANG=CC? 17.48.05 # yea, seems to do the job 17.48.16 # kugel: I think so, maybe use export LANG=CC to make the setting stick 17.48.27 # all those warnings seems to be the same actually: ../../apps/gui/wps_parser.c:1530: warning: cast to pointer from integer of different size 17.48.39 Quit bughunter2 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 17.49.04 Quit BlakeJohnson87 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 17.49.35 # line 1530 is: char *wps_buffer = (char *)plugin_get_buffer(&buffersize); 17.51.02 # char *wps_buffer = (char *)((long)plugin_get_buffer(&buffersize)); kills the warnings 17.51.26 # at least on my system, I'm not sure if it'd be proper fix 17.52.16 # int64_t also works 17.53.38 # That seems odd - plugin_get_buffer returns (void*), so you shouldn't even need the (char*) cast there (IIUC). 17.55.47 # are you sure? 17.56.07 # No, that's why I said "IIUC". 17.56.21 # I get a warning if I remove it: warning: initialization makes pointer from integer without a cast 17.58.26 # But: (from plugin.h) void* (*plugin_get_buffer)(size_t *buffer_size); 17.58.28 # I think I found the problem of usb on my S but I need some information to tes it : where is the usb detect in the code, I need to force usb on with a sequence of button 17.58.51 # and off also 17.59.52 # firmware/target/arm/imx31/gigabeat-s/usb-imx31.c 18.00.07 # ok 18.00.13 # And firmware/usb.c 18.01.31 Quit perrikwp ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") 18.01.49 # I think that the fuse for the usb detect is blown so the firmware doesn't see a connection but the upodatye force the usb on so it works 18.02.28 # the beast seems to be pretty fragile... 18.02.49 Join bluebrother [0] (n=Dom@f053152113.adsl.alicedsl.de) 18.03.22 Quit kugel (Remote closed the connection) 18.03.25 Quit nplus (Remote closed the connection) 18.03.35 # Bagder: can we get m:robe 100 as target in the tracker? 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19.44.08 # customised in what way? 19.44.41 # Hm. Basically, I want to weight how frequently different directories are played from, and play several tracks consecutively, until a time limit is met, then switch to the next directory (chosen randomly) 19.44.55 # blimey 19.45.07 # I can't help I'm afraid, but have fun :) 19.45.09 # I do it on my desktop with a simple python script, but I'm wanting to port it to rockbox 19.45.15 # Eh, ok; thanks :) 19.45.50 # I see two possible approaches - hacking rockbox itself (judging by how often 'shuffle' appears in the code, that'll be a handful and a half), or adding a plugin to generate playlists, as far as I can see 19.51.13 # llingvo, Have you thought about modifying the "random folder advance" plugin for your purposes? 19.52.09 # soap: nope, because I didn't know of it; I'll look at it. Thanks! 19.52.10 # That could easily address the "how frequently different directories are played from" issue - on the "random time in one directory before skipping to another directory" issue I think you would need to think along another line. 19.52.40 # Perhaps a plugin to "prebuild" playlists weighted to your specifications. 19.52.48 # soap: hm... the way I'm addressing it with my desktop code is to have it as a soft lower limit - basically, each time a track finishes playing, I check whether I've exceeded the time, and if so, switch directories 19.53.00 # hmm.. yeah, that's roughly what the direction I was tending towards 19.53.52 # I understand that - but w/o modifying playback code you can't easily do that. The exact same result could be achieved by doing all the random decision making /before/ a playlist is started. You could do that through a plugin. 19.54.51 Join BHSPitLappy [0] (n=BHSPitLa@unaffiliated/bhspitmonkey) 19.56.45 # llingvo: creating a playlist based on a playcount search might also be something like that. 20.00.06 # I would say the best method for tackling it is some sort of playlist generation plugin. It'd probably be the most flexible way (and possibly least difficult to boot) 20.00.24 # markun, the reason I asked (in the wrong channel) earlier if the forum poster assertion that volume reduction in the digital domain increases distortion was because "use the EQ preamp as a way to cap volume" is the "standard answer". I was under the belief that digital volume reduction would only decrease signal to noise ratio - not add additional distortion - but didn't want to say such to the poster out of fear I was incorrect. 20.00.26 Join einhirn_ [0] (n=Miranda@p5B03218D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 20.02.10 # soap: very same reason I didn't post a response. 20.03.54 Quit Mathiasdm ("Yuuw!") 20.21.57 Join saratoga [0] (n=62e14d04@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-8dc1162435d47f76) 20.22.34 # soap: using preamp to reduce volume cuts off bits at the bottom of each sample, which realistically are always noise unless you're cutting off a lot of bits 20.23.03 # it shouldn't have any perceptable impact on quality 20.23.36 Quit merbanan (Remote closed the connection) 20.23.57 # saratoga: Well the comparison is with actual volume reduction anyway. 20.31.18 Quit spiorf (Remote closed the connection) 20.31.55 Join bluebrother^ [0] (n=Dom@f053154049.adsl.alicedsl.de) 20.32.08 Quit bluebrother (Nick collision from services.) 20.32.12 Nick bluebrother^ is now known as bluebrother (n=Dom@rockbox/staff/bluebrother) 20.38.22 # typo police raid... 20.38.30 # oh? 20.39.04 Part pixelma 20.39.24 # See last 3 commits 20.43.44 # shameless commit count increase :P 20.43.47 # Llorean: mind if I delete the tech support stuff from the S thread? 20.44.20 # saratoga: If you do, PM him to explain why, and with the gist of the last messages 20.44.29 # saratoga: Wait and make sure he sees my last mention for him to post elsewhere. 20.44.59 # But yeah, if he manages to realize to post elsewhere, or ignores it, just nuke all of the off-topic stuff in the thread 20.45.03 # I thought the "tech support requests will be deleted" post was pretty clear 20.50.18 Quit sarascle ("ChatZilla 0.9.82.1 [Firefox 3.0/2008051206]") 20.53.02 # sort of made some sense of the profile resutls on ARM for mp3 20.53.18 # synth_full uses 45% of the total run time of the codec 20.53.56 Quit amiconn (" Einrichten von Fenster RF Dienstpackung 3 ...") 20.56.20 # it also says "III_decode" which is the entrance point of the codec uses 35%, which can't be right 21.00.05 # saratoga: well, synth_full makes sense, that's the smull/smlal hellhole 21.04.19 Join gromit` [0] (n=gromit@ALagny-154-1-44-191.w83-200.abo.wanadoo.fr) 21.05.11 # unfortunately its all asm already 21.05.39 # though its half ldr's, which seems odd not to use ldm 21.23.03 Join mf0102 [0] (n=michi@85.127.21.196) 21.23.14 Nick linuxstb_ is now known as linuxstb (n=linuxstb@rockbox/developer/linuxstb) 21.23.24 Quit n2aag (Remote closed the connection) 21.23.28 # preglow: Any interesting D2 progress? 21.26.19 Quit XavierGr (Nick collision from services.) 21.26.30 Join XavierGr [0] (n=xavier@rockbox/staff/XavierGr) 21.33.50 Quit gromit` (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 21.34.16 Join Buschel [0] (n=abc@p54A3EB73.dip.t-dialin.net) 21.35.10 # Buschel: you seen http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=16911.msg0#new 21.35.40 # potential old version being removed issue? 21.36.04 # * Llorean was waiting for Buschel to show up to point him at that very thread and ask about it. 21.36.30 # hehe :) 21.42.12 Join dabujo [0] (i=xx@p4FDB3158.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 21.43.29 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 21.45.26 # just saw it and responded -- imho two things are possible: sv4/5/6-files or the change in the seeking. 21.46.01 # Foobar shows stream version... 21.46.22 # sv4/5/6 will switch to the next file. if the whole folder is of such files the hdd will always load the next... 21.47.02 # that's why i didn't remove but #undef'ed the code 21.48.03 # if so it will be no fun to merge the sv4-6 code into the sv8 stuff... 21.48.08 # but let's see 21.48.49 Join Mainiak_Blaniak [0] (n=daniel@d-216-246-140-100.cpe.metrocast.net) 21.51.52 # saratoga: your profiling on mp3 has similar results as i had yesterday. in fact the dewindowing (synthfull1, synthfull2 and the EVEN/ODD-macros) is quite optimized. 21.53.20 Quit Mainiak_Blaniak ("Leaving.") 21.54.58 Join gromit` [0] (n=gromit@ALagny-154-1-44-191.w83-200.abo.wanadoo.fr) 21.55.38 # Buschel: how much CPU time did synthfull use? 21.56.02 # the rockbox profiler says 45%, but i'm not sure i believe it 21.56.22 # saratoga: i remember 13MHz for synthfull + macros and 6MHz for dct32 21.57.01 # saratoga: from 37MHz overall 21.57.36 # maybe the number i got for the profiler is for synth_full and evereything it calls (including dct32) 21.58.29 # sounds reasonable 21.59.01 # you've got results for imdct + imcdt-window + anti-alias? 21.59.11 # (all asm'ed though) 22.03.00 Quit Horscht ("I am root. If you see me laughing, you better have a backup") 22.03.49 Quit Lear ("ChatZilla 0.9.82.1 [Firefox 3.0/2008051206]") 22.07.29 Join linuxstb_ [0] (n=linuxstb@rockbox/developer/linuxstb) 22.09.55 Join culture [0] (n=sam@79.97.22.57) 22.11.13 Quit nplus (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 22.12.55 # Buschel: I've got the output of GCC's profiler, but some doubt about how to interpret the addresses for functions it reports (some match objdump,. but not the .map) 22.13.15 Join nplus [0] (n=nplus@141.25.globcom.net) 22.13.54 # saratoga: can you match the most consuming parts following synthfull? 22.14.36 # Buschel: http://pastebin.com/m7cf1b8db 22.14.58 Join BuXY95 [0] (n=5b788d87@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-c8eff66e9117084b) 22.14.58 # hi people! 22.15.33 # is it possible to fine-tune somehow the quartz oscillator of the iriver ihp120 22.16.19 # BuXY95: why would you want to? 22.17.17 # BuXY95: I don't know, but I do know that some RTCs indeed support something like that. 22.17.31 Quit llingvo ("Leaving") 22.17.58 # my problem is that recording audio with iriver and video with a DV camcorder, when i put the 1 hour reels together, there is almost half second difference in length! :( 22.20.00 Quit linuxstb (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 22.21.56 # so the iriver is recording slower than my camcorder 22.21.59 # BuXY95: its probably going to be a lot easier to just resample the audio 22.22.20 # or insert some duplicate frames in the video... 22.24.15 # *sigh* 22.25.43 Join mcuelenaere [0] (n=mcuelena@rockbox/developer/mcuelenaere) 22.25.56 Quit mcuelenaere (Remote closed the connection) 22.26.02 Join mcuelenaere [0] (n=mcuelena@rockbox/developer/mcuelenaere) 22.27.29 Join pixelma [50] (i=pixelma@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 22.33.47 # saratoga: III_decode does the demuxing and requantization? 22.34.02 # saratoga: or is it the imdct-stuff? 22.34.14 Join quest23 [0] (n=IceChat7@70-239-181-47.lightspeed.snantx.sbcglobal.net) 22.34.38 # im having problems getting pacman to work...any help? 22.35.56 # anyone there? 22.35.56 # quest23: have you dumped the files correctly from your pacman machine? 22.36.02 # ? 22.36.10 # the roms for pacman 22.36.27 # what player, what problems, what information did you read so far? 22.36.30 # You can check the MD5 sums of your dumped files against the values on the Pacbox page in the wiki 22.36.35 # i put them in the .rockbox/pacman folder like it said 22.36.40 # if thats what you mean 22.36.50 # i read the manual 22.37.17 # quest23: and you have _all_ the files the manual says you need? 22.37.25 # yes 22.37.34 # what player do you have? 22.37.51 # ipod 5 video 22.38.32 # i go to the game and it says no roms in .rockbox/pacman 22.39.17 # i checked and they are there...maybe i got bad files...not sure...but they are the same as the ones in the manual 22.39.43 # quest23: have you compared md5 sums like BigBambi suggested? 22.40.21 # md5 sum???where do i see that info..i see it in the manual...but the roms i got i dont see that info... 22.40.59 # well, you need some program that calculates it, I'm sure google can help you find one 22.41.25 Join amiconn [50] (n=jens@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 22.42.03 # pacman.6e file type 6e does that look right 22.42.13 # or do i need to do something to them first 22.42.47 # * Buschel really needs to generate some >1 hour mpc-file 22.42.49 # quest23: Why not do what is recommended... 22.43.26 # quest23: Giving us random information that we didn't ask for is just going to make this take longer, and be more frustrating for both sides, because until you check the md5sums we simply won't know if the files are right. 22.43.58 # k...sorry..didnt see thatline...doing that now...my apologies 22.44.38 Join kugel [0] (n=chatzill@unaffiliated/kugel) 22.44.46 # * kugel keeps typing i.e. instead of e.g :/ 22.44.58 Join petur [50] (n=petur@rockbox/developer/petur) 22.45.01 # http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/9010 22.45.09 # Buschel: I'm not too familar with the mad code so i'm not sure 22.45.26 # hmm, when i do uint16 x = y; whereas y is uint32 and larger than max_uint16 (e.g. 70000). what is the result of x? 22.45.32 # kugel: Pasting random tracker tasks into the channel doesn't do much good... 22.45.54 # kugel: I don't see the i.e. :) 22.45.59 # will it be saturated to max_uint16 or does it wrap around to e.g. 70000-65535 22.46.10 # Buschel: I'd expect it to wrap 22.46.11 # Buschel: I think it truncates without saturation 22.46.11 # it's not random. It's an issue I noticed today and allready talked about that with linuxstb_ 22.46.21 # BigBambi: I do 22.46.29 # kugel: check again 22.46.34 # ah ok :) 22.46.35 # kugel: It's random if you just sign into the channel and paste it, without perhaps giving some sort of context. A conversation from hours ago hardly qualifies as context. 22.46.40 # hehe 22.46.58 # amiconn/saratoga: hehe, two people, two answers 22.47.01 # Llorean: I got it 22.47.18 # Buschel: It's essentially the same 22.47.24 # answe 22.47.25 # r 22.47.31 # oops 22.47.39 # * Buschel again read too fast -- mea culpa 22.47.52 # Llorean: But maybe I posted that "randomly" in the hope someone would correct my i.e. ;) 22.48.01 # BigBambi: thanks 22.48.06 # hehe :) 22.48.21 # ok...checked the md5 sum info for pacman.6e and it matches the one in the manual... 22.48.40 # quest23: You need to check all the files, not just one. 22.48.48 # k 22.49.36 # for a configure script, whats the command to tell it where to look for required header files? 22.50.24 Quit BlakeJohnson86 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 22.51.06 # saratoga: Try "configure --help" 22.51.26 Nick linuxstb_ is now known as linuxstb (n=linuxstb@rockbox/developer/linuxstb) 22.52.15 # linuxstb: I checked that, and the obvious --includedur= option doesn't seem to be working 22.52.21 # does checkwps define SIMULATOR ? 22.52.21 # so i assume i don't understand something 22.53.09 Join BlakeJohnson86 [0] (n=bjohnson@99-203-33-42.area2.spcsdns.net) 22.54.00 # n1s: It doesn't seem to. I can't recall if there was a reason for that... 22.54.26 # well, keep up the good work, make us some cooooool rockbox stuff :) 22.54.27 # bye 22.55.33 Quit BuXY95 ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 22.58.46 Join dan_a_ [0] (n=dan-mirc@217.23.173.156) 22.58.52 # linuxstb: well, that warning kugel posted is weird, i get it too if i build checkwps but not if i build a sim and imho it makes no sense 23.03.24 # n1s: No, I don't understand either. I don't think it can make a difference, but plugin_get_buffer is defined in checkwps.c - it doesn't use the core's version of that function. But the type is the same. 23.05.20 Join m0f0x [0] (n=m0f0x@189-47-26-195.dsl.telesp.net.br) 23.05.33 # buschel thinks mpc's seeking code fails on large files right now as the seeking allocates 4byte per frame. the failing file has >137000 frames. before my cleaning up the allocated buffer size was truncated via uint16 (to about 7000 *4 bytes). 23.05.44 # needs some check... tomorrow 23.05.55 Quit saratoga ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)") 23.07.50 Quit nuonguy ("This computer has gone to sleep") 23.08.15 Quit petur ("*plop*") 23.09.31 Quit Buschel () 23.11.00 # I wonder who decided it was a good idea to translate the gcc output... Any tips on getting that back to English? 23.12.00 Quit lee-qid (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 23.12.13 # by setting LANG? 23.12.25 # or possibly unsetting it 23.12.44 # make LANG=C 23.12.49 # ok...got all the right files for pacman now..one was wrong...replaced it...still no work..any ideas??? 23.13.12 # if you don't want to unset your machines localization 23.13.15 # Bagder: bluebrother: thanks 23.13.21 # n1s: Regarding my tracker post? 23.13.29 # kugel: yes 23.13.48 # yea, I wondered that too, but then I remered that bluebrother once told me to do LANG=CC :) 23.14.12 # remembered 23.14.32 # most distros should have the setting in /etc/sysconfig/i18n or similar (unless that changed ... /me should update his outdated distro ;-) 23.14.36 # kugel: do you only get warnings and a working checkwps? it errors out on a bunch of undeclared stuff and incomplete types 23.15.09 # bluebrother: any idea where that is set for regular rockbox builds? 23.15.35 Join _w0rd54 [0] (i=blackdev@100mbit.top-site.us) 23.15.43 # n1s: LANG is a system setting, so the rockbox build system doesn't touch that. 23.15.47 # n1s: it's compiling, but not working 23.15.54 # get "WPS parsing failure" 23.16.12 # I know it worked with that "fix" I mentioned in the tracker 23.16.20 # bluebrother: but if i build a sim i get output in english, building checkwps the output is in Swedish... 23.16.32 Quit dan_a (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 23.16.46 # that's strange. 23.18.01 Quit davina (Remote closed the connection) 23.18.28 Join Mathiasdm [0] (n=Mathias@vpne085.ugent.be) 23.18.46 # nevermind....got pacman working!!!!!!thanks n1s and Llorean for your help 23.19.10 Quit quest23 ("REALITY.SYS Corrupted: Re-boot universe? (Y/N/Q)") 23.19.47 # n1s: Have you tried "LANG=CC ./buildall.sh"? That works for me 23.19.57 Quit Arathis (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 23.20.26 # kugel: yes, that works but i wonder why a sim build does not need that 23.20.55 # n1s: doesn't need what? 23.21.12 # setting LANG to get english output 23.21.24 # I'm not entirely sure, but afaik when I compile sim it's german too 23.22.12 # kugel: it's LANG=C. Otherwise you'd set some unknown language (and thus default to english too) 23.23.53 # bluebrother: I was pretty sure you said LANG=CC some time ago when I asked in the first place 23.24.17 # But if LANG=C is better, then I'll use that of course :) 23.24.25 # aha! the rockbox Makefile sets LANGUAGE=english and doing a 'LANGUAGE=english ./buildall.sh' does indeed give english output 23.24.32 # then I either mistyped or you remembered wrong ;-) C is the default language, CC is usually the C compiler ;-) 23.25.02 # Rockbox makefile does such stuff? Ouch. 23.25.29 # bluebrother: i think that's a leftover from when you could select the default language when compiling 23.25.37 # exactly 23.25.56 # we had such a thing? Can't remember ... 23.26.03 Quit domonoky (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 23.26.04 # we did for quite some time 23.26.42 # seems I never noticed. But I prefer to have my development machine running english anyway. 23.27.28 Quit desowin ("KVIrc 4.0.0 Insomnia http://www.kvirc.net/") 23.27.31 Join Horscht [0] (n=Horscht@xbmc/user/horscht) 23.28.59 # "removed the language choice, now always uses english built-in" 2 years, 4 months ago 23.29.15 Quit XavierGr () 23.29.32 Quit Horscht (Remote closed the connection) 23.30.22 # ah -- I think that's around the time I got involved. 23.32.45 Quit w0rd54 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 23.32.58 # it was introduced 5 years, 7 months ago 23.33.28 Join Horscht [0] (n=Horscht@xbmc/user/horscht) 23.33.30 Quit BlakeJohnson86 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 23.34.05 # hmm, checkwps thinks it has tagcache for some reason and that's why it fails to build here... 23.34.18 Join BlakeJohnson86 [0] (n=bjohnson@99-203-33-42.area2.spcsdns.net) 23.34.58 # n1s: it fails to build for you? 23.35.27 # kugel: do you only get warnings and a working checkwps? it errors out on a bunch of undeclared stuff and incomplete types 23.35.48 Quit homielowe () 23.35.50 # oh sorry, I only read the first part :( 23.36.04 # but it builds for me 23.36.18 # but it doesn't work 23.36.41 # does it work with the warning fix you put in the tracker task? 23.36.58 # yes 23.37.23 # * kugel probably should've added that 23.37.32 Quit bluebrother ("time for a reboot") 23.38.59 Quit bertrik ("bye") 23.39.35 # meh, a svn up solved the define problem... 23.39.43 # wait, I just tried it again, and now it worked 23.42.23 # n1s: So, it works. Not sure why I got "WPS parsing failure" before. I used the same wps 23.42.35 # ok 23.43.04 Quit jhMikeS (Nick collision from services.) 23.43.10 Join jhMikeS [50] (n=jethead7@rockbox/developer/jhMikeS) 23.43.33 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 23.43.33 # this looks like a gcc bug to me... 23.50.25 # storing the result in a intptr_t and then casting that to (char*) does not give a warning... 23.52.14 Quit mcuelenaere () 23.52.48 # n1s: and why does not reproduce the error? 23.53.05 # add "the sim" 23.58.40 Join biertrinken [0] (n=biertrin@p5497A3F3.dip0.t-ipconnect.de)