--- Log for 21.05.108 Server: leguin.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: @logbot_ Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 18 days and 10 hours ago 00.00.00 Quit domonoky (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 00.00.12 Quit gevaerts ("bedtime") 00.00.23 # * amiconn is slightly confused about bertrik's commit message 00.01.19 # lowercase() ;) 00.01.41 # No, the 20:20 one 00.02.05 # The message says the opposite of what actually happened in the code re the macro 00.02.30 # ah, yes i saw that too but checked the diff before the message :) 00.02.56 # anyway there's yellow for the player build now, but he left 00.07.21 # Bagder: is the core language set to spanish? 00.07.48 # yeah, but I'll check some more tomorrow, time to get some sleep for me now 00.08.42 Join MethoS- [0] (n=clemens@dyndsl-085-016-162-190.ewe-ip-backbone.de) 00.12.59 Quit leox (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 00.13.51 Quit bluebrother ("leaving") 00.15.53 Quit BigBambi_PC (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 00.21.19 # hmpf 00.24.37 Join knitt1 [0] (n=knittl@193.170.134.96) 00.28.25 Quit MethoS_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00.29.27 Join kn1ttl [0] (n=knittl@193.170.134.96) 00.30.40 Quit shotofadds ("Leaving") 00.30.55 Quit knitt1 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 00.31.49 Join leox [0] (n=leox@165-162-114-200.fibertel.com.ar) 00.37.33 Quit n1s () 00.37.38 Join knitt1 [0] (n=knittl@193.170.133.88) 00.41.25 Quit linuxstb (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00.41.39 Join linuxstb [0] (n=linuxstb@rockbox/developer/linuxstb) 00.46.09 Quit frinkazoid ("Konversation terminated!") 00.46.40 Quit Horscht ("I got raided by the FBI and all i got is this lousy quit message") 00.47.29 Join Horscht [0] (n=Horscht@xbmc/user/horscht) 00.48.12 Join brianetter [0] (n=god_of_m@24-116-242-160.cpe.cableone.net) 00.50.09 # is the gigabeat U 201 supported (use another build for gigabeat X or F?) 00.52.19 # all supported devices are listed on the frontpage. 00.52.24 # brianetter: no, it isn't. only players listed on the frontpage are 00.52.35 # k, just making sure... 00.52.37 # * scorche|sh twiches at DerPapst 00.52.42 # brianetter: btw, the tracker isn't the place for such questions 00.53.12 Part brianetter 00.53.28 # Nico_P: Hey, have you had time to review my patch (FS#8335), I'm asking since I don't think I'm going to do more 00.53.41 # kugel: no, I haven't had time 00.53.47 Quit kn1ttl (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00.53.49 Join goffa [0] (n=goffa@216.220.23.105) 00.53.55 # Ok, no hurry 00.59.30 Join kn1ttl [0] (n=knittl@193.170.133.88) 01.01.49 Join Renfield [0] (n=Renfield@c-75-67-251-218.hsd1.nh.comcast.net) 01.04.41 Quit ender` (" error compiling committee.c: too many arguments to function") 01.06.36 Quit obo ("bye") 01.10.44 Join SirFunk [0] (n=Sir@206-159-155-246.netsync.net) 01.12.57 Quit knitt1 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 01.13.48 Quit dabujo ("( www.nnscript.com :: NoNameScript 4.2 :: www.regroup-esports.com )") 01.16.45 Join Shaid [0] (n=adam@dsl-202-45-112-116-static.VIC.netspace.net.au) 01.20.26 Quit kn1ttl (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 01.25.27 Join tvelocity [0] (n=tony@athedsl-4420511.home.otenet.gr) 01.25.39 Quit gregzx ("ChatZilla 0.9.82.1 [Firefox 2.0.0.12/2008020121]") 01.33.43 Quit Nico_P ("bed time") 01.37.20 Quit AndyI (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 01.41.01 Join TheGazR [0] (i=TheGazR@jwad-resnet-30870.d.port.ac.uk) 01.41.58 Join linuxstb_ [0] (n=linuxstb@rockbox/developer/linuxstb) 01.42.00 Quit courtc (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 01.43.16 Join Alexanderr [0] (n=Shrimpyd@209.62.171.144) 01.43.26 # Am I to understand that I have to request permission to use the twiki in here to add details of a new port? 01.43.29 # Hey you guys, noobie here. Just have a few questions. 01.43.58 # Number 1, I have an i-pod nano 2nd generation. Would putting rockbox for the Ipod nano 1st generation be bad? 01.44.32 # you can't do that anyway. 01.44.42 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 01.44.49 # TheGazR, yep. what's your wiki name? 01.45.07 # Krazy, were you talking to me? 01.45.19 # Alexanderr, yes. 01.45.34 # Is it different to the name I signed up with on the forums? (If not, I'll have to sign up to the wiki) 01.45.49 # you have to sign up seperately for the wiki 01.45.59 # Ok, I'll do that now. Thank you very much :) 01.46.00 Quit MethoS- (Remote closed the connection) 01.46.01 # Krazy, what is preventing me from doing it? 01.46.15 Join AndyI [0] (n=pasha_in@212.14.205.32) 01.46.42 # Alexanderr, ipodpatcher should complain about no ipods found. 01.47.25 # If I were to try it and something go wrong, would it be reversable? 01.47.47 # don't bother trying. it won't work. the 2g is completely different hardware. 01.48.19 # Is it reversable though? ;) 01.49.37 # unzipping the build is. ipodpatcher should flat-out refuse to do anything, though, so you can't alter your ipod anyway. 01.49.58 # Not to sound pushy Alexanderr, but you have came here for help, and are going against what you're being told 01.50.03 # Seems a bit strange to me :) 01.50.22 # Oh, and I have done that now Krazykit; my username is GaryOakley 01.51.16 Part pixelma 01.51.53 Join Thundercloud [0] (n=thunderc@resnet24.nat.lancs.ac.uk) 01.52.05 # Haha Yeah gazr, sorry. :P 01.52.18 # TheGazR, all set. you should have write permissions now :) 01.52.57 # No need to appoligise to me. I came here asking for help too. But I dunno, you wouldn't go into a mechanic and tell them they are rebuilding your car all wrong, so :p 01.53.17 # "What do you MEAN I can't have a v8 in my Beetle?!" 01.53.37 # exactly ;) 01.53.54 # "I want the petrol tank on the passanger seat! I hate my wife..." 01.54.12 Quit stripwax (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 01.54.20 Quit linuxstb (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 01.55.16 # Oh, and thank you very much Krazykit :) Much appreciated 01.56.44 # Alexanderr: When we say it wont work, we mean "It won't work."...you can go ahead and try if you dont believe us as the tools wont work at all...embedded development is very different from software where things might work, but the producer wont tell you it will...everything has to be made to work with each individual player taking into account any differences 01.57.19 # Thanks for explaining scorche, I see what you mean. The bootloader wouldn't recognize it. 01.57.32 # Do you know of any cool things that I can do to my Nano 2nd gen? 01.57.50 # nope...and even if i did, that would be off-topic in this channel 01.58.05 Join Steiner192 [0] (n=57d36111@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-bb1532b9aff33ad4) 01.58.17 # hi all ive got a problem with my rockbox 01.58.24 # anyone wanna help? 01.58.32 # Steiner192, just ask 01.58.38 # not if you arent going to tell us what the problem is ;) 01.58.42 # Okay thanks all. 01.58.44 Quit Alexanderr () 01.59.01 # ive installed rockbox, its all okay, ive updated the database, wont shut down now 01.59.16 # keeps hanging at the shutting down screen, ive got iaudio x5l 01.59.32 # re-installed it like 5 times yet no charm :p 01.59.53 # before i added songs to the database it would shut down 02.00.12 # so eh, anyone? :p 02.00.39 Join simonrvn [0] (i=simon@unaffiliated/simonrvn) 02.01.10 Join fdinel [0] (n=Miranda@modemcable002.173-131-66.mc.videotron.ca) 02.01.12 Quit tvelocity (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 02.02.10 # am i the first with that problem? :p 02.04.43 # Steiner192, please have patience. answers aren't instant. 02.05.16 # okay :) 02.05.41 # i was hoping that it was a common problem and someone had a magical solution :p 02.06.40 # i havent heard of it, but if you stick around, perhaps someone else has... 02.06.54 # just to make sure, you are using the latest official build, yes? 02.07.10 # got that 02.09.55 Quit Mathiasdm ("Yuuw!") 02.14.30 # hmm reinstalled again 02.14.38 # building the database now takes a whole lot longer 02.14.44 # lets pray and hope :D 02.18.05 Quit moos ("Rockbox rules the DAP world") 02.20.00 # seems to work now 02.20.02 # strange 02.23.31 Join neddy [0] (n=john@nat/sun/x-013826d4605ee8fe) 02.24.26 # Steiner192, glad we could help :) 02.25.40 Join culture_ [0] (n=sam@79.97.22.57) 02.27.28 Join elcaste [0] (n=elcaste@201.216.146.49) 02.27.51 # hello 02.28.00 # is there anyone here that could help me? 02.28.57 # we might find it a bit hard to do so if you havent said what you need help with... 02.30.08 # oh 02.30.09 # sorry 02.30.20 # well.. i have been trying to install rockbox on my ipod 02.30.32 # but i get ipod not found 02.30.55 # which ipod do you have? 02.31.20 # classci 80g 02.31.33 # ...did you happen to look at the front page and the list of devices that rockbox works on?...it is right front and center 02.34.33 # what do you mean? 02.34.48 # well.. mine would be a 5th generation classic 80gig 02.34.50 # www.rockbox.org look at the table below the huge logo 02.34.57 # elcaste: classic is the 6th generation 02.35.03 # there is no 5g classic 02.35.16 # there is either the classic (aka 6G) or the 5G 02.35.18 # what makes you think it is the 5th generation? (i am honestly curious about this) 02.35.43 # note how it says "(not the Shuffle, 2nd/3rd gen Nano, Classic or Touch)" 02.35.49 # oh 02.35.52 Join master_of [0] (n=dannydut@pool-71-246-224-12.washdc.fios.verizon.net) 02.35.58 # daaaamn it.. 02.36.15 # so then i have a 6th gen classic 80gig.. 02.36.21 # i bought it in 2007 tho... 02.36.24 # a year ago.. lol 02.36.35 # november.. 02.36.37 # elcaste: identify your iPod here: http://ipodlinux.org/Generations 02.36.41 # how many people agree that a rockbox build for the ipod touch/iphone would be awesome? 02.36.47 # i do.. 02.36.51 Quit culture (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 02.37.03 # good then you can make it for me. lol 02.37.25 Nick master_of is now known as danny_d (n=dannydut@pool-71-246-224-12.washdc.fios.verizon.net) 02.37.39 # danny_d: that comment was a bit useless.. 02.37.46 # yeah... 02.37.51 # mine is a 6th generation :( 02.38.09 # elcaste: but seriously, what makes you think it was a 5th generation?...i am curious as it seems others think that too, and i dont get why 02.38.10 # i know. im just mad that my 2nd gen mini broke 02.38.12 # damn..i have the .ipg archives for the games.. 02.38.21 # because.. at the firmware download page 02.38.28 # danny_d: well, that doesnt help 02.38.28 # scorche: they look similar. 02.38.28 # there is a firmware for an 80gig ipod.. 02.38.29 # whats .ipg 02.38.49 # and according to me.. theres only 1 version of 80gig.. 02.38.55 # but know i see it isnt.. :) 02.39.05 # there is a 5th gen 80gig 02.39.08 # elcaste: oh...so you went by size and just assumed it was 5th gen and didnt see the "not the classic" part? 02.39.15 # yes there is 02.39.25 # danny_d: it is offtopic...thats what ;) 02.39.25 # yeah.. kinda that.. 02.39.30 # i skipped the classic thing. 02.39.43 # "elcaste damn..i have the .ipg archives for the games.." 02.39.45 # .ipg is the format of the games for the ipod 02.39.49 # oh 02.39.53 # ha 02.39.59 # its the game.. 02.40.04 # * scorche|sh sighs 02.40.05 # I Pod Games 02.40.16 # just that for you to be able to pass it to the ipod.. you need to verify it.. 02.40.20 # well via itunes.. 02.40.21 # wow way to make me feel retarded 02.40.27 # if i had rockbox.. something else would be 02.40.45 # :s know any way scorche? 02.40.51 # nope 02.41.24 # damn... so if i want bomberman on my ipod i need to or either search for a good hax.. or wait for rockbox work on classic, or buy it... 02.41.35 Quit Makuseru (Remote closed the connection) 02.41.56 # rockbox working on g6 ipods? 02.42.00 # i suppose, but if you arent talking about rockbox, then itis offtopic here 02.42.05 # no. 02.42.15 # is it on that list that i asked you to look at earlier? 02.42.27 # buy it. then you can play it this milleninum 02.42.54 # did anyone happen to get the free Hitman movie off iTunes? i did. it happened about a week ago. there were two listing for it in the browse section: free and Buy 02.43.06 # pretty crappy movie 02.43.08 # danny_d, that's offtopic. 02.43.10 # but free 02.43.12 # lol 02.43.17 Join Makuseru [0] (n=max@163.106.40.24.aeneasdsl.com) 02.43.21 # danny_d: seriously...this is liek your 3rd warning to stay on topic 02.43.26 # k 02.43.52 # how long do you think it would take for rockbox be able to be installed on 6g ipodsż? 02.43.55 Join BHSPitLappy [0] (n=BHSPitLa@unaffiliated/bhspitmonkey) 02.43.58 # elcaste, there is no timeline 02.44.19 # elcaste: well, at current rates, an infinite time (there isnt anyone working on it) 02.44.21 # encryption has to be cracked before. and that might never happen 02.44.22 # rockbox ports are made by interested owners in their free time, so it's impossible to say when it might be ported. as it is, no one is working on it. 02.44.30 # ill just be glad when the Gigabeat S is fully supported! 02.44.36 # elcaste: until builders can get a deep look at the current firmware 02.44.45 # danny_d: it is much more than that 02.44.51 # * DerPapst thinks the beast works pretty well already 02.44.58 # does it? 02.44.59 # and it wont happen by itself 02.45.00 Join linuxstb__ [0] (n=linuxstb@i-83-67-212-170.freedom2surf.net) 02.45.08 # scorche: how much more? 02.45.20 # battery life could be better.. and maybe some keymaps.. but it's usable already 02.45.23 # i dont have one, i have a F, waiting untilll S is fully supported to buy one 02.45.34 # danny_d: it is a lot of work that is currently being done by no one 02.45.42 # get one as long as they're available and cheap 02.45.57 Join webguest93 [0] (n=450c98f9@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-dc71ac95b558494e) 02.46.03 # how much do they run for? 02.46.22 # yeah but instead of updating unpopular builds, they should focus on newer models 02.46.58 # danny_d, who? there is no rockbox "team" 02.47.15 # got mine for ~90USD a 60GB one 02.47.17 # danny_d: i disagree...doing something that helps one device is not nearly as nice as something that effects all devices....people do what they want to work on 02.47.38 # danny_d: rockbox would be useless on any new devices if it was not stable first 02.48.14 # danny_d: if you think progress isn'T fast enough get some clue and join development :-) 02.48.48 # DerPapst: wow, ill probably pick one up then. where did you get it from? 02.48.59 # US ebay 02.49.05 # if i made a build, i wouldn't build it just so i could make an unpopular build. i would rather contribute to the project by making popular builds for popular models 02.49.18 # support request: when playing the asteroids game, my sansa e200 dropped back to the sandisk bootup screen, and is unresponsive to button presses or attaching to computer 02.49.32 # DerPapst: what kind of battery life is it getting? 02.49.57 # haven't mesured. but i guess less than 10hours 02.50.05 # thats still not bad 02.50.22 # my T is getting about 12-14 02.50.30 # in the OF? 02.50.39 # (cont) not some 10 year old mp3 player that very little if not no one uses 02.50.42 # im sorry, but "OF"? 02.50.50 # originial firmware? 02.50.54 # yes 02.50.58 # no, in rockbox 02.51.14 # * DerPapst didn't know rockbox supports the T 02.51.30 # haha 02.51.31 # my bad 02.51.33 # F 02.51.33 # danny_d: you arent making any sense...no rockbox target is 10 years old and we have devices that are quite popular 02.51.38 # heh.. ok :-) 02.51.42 # lol 02.51.45 # Archos Recorder v1 for example. 02.51.46 # is there a T? 02.51.57 # iirc yes. 02.52.07 # danny_d: which is not 10 years old....are you suggesting we should just drop it for no reason? 02.52.08 # ah, well i have a F40 and i LOVE rockbox on it 02.52.12 # the batteries in the gigabeats are ways to smal imo 02.52.52 # no i am not suggesting dropping it, but instead do fewer new builds and turn the work towards supporting more devices 02.53.00 # danny_d: rockbox is mostly the same across all targets...most changes affect most of the devices 02.53.47 Quit ch4os (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 02.53.49 # and builds are made for every checkin. by some powerful buildservers automated. so no waste of time there 02.53.55 # danny_d: you still arent making any sense...so we shouldnt make efforts to fix bugs and make rockbox more stable so that we can instead port a very buggy firmware with very few features to many many devices? 02.54.37 # i think im misunderstanding. changes are given to every device? not built individualy? 02.54.53 # < scorche|sh> danny_d: rockbox is mostly the same across all targets...most changes affect most of the devices 02.54.58 # yes. one cange many builds 02.55.16 # oh. i feel like a jackass 02.55.21 # now 02.55.42 # lol 02.55.55 # they share the GUI and playback system (swcodec) but have a different "driver layer" 02.56.01 # perhaps you should bother to find out a bit more about things before you try to argue things about them 02.56.25 Quit linuxstb_ (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 02.57.17 # so from what you people are saying, there is no stable version for any device? 02.57.44 # There is very little "stable" software in the world. 02.57.50 # there is no bugfree software 02.58.13 Quit Thundercloud (Remote closed the connection) 02.58.21 # bugfree software is a developers fantasy 02.58.45 # even hello world programs can be buggy if the compiler messes something up 02.59.18 # the Archos Recorder v1 is alittle over 6 years old. oops 02.59.30 # according to wikipedia 02.59.36 # < scorche|sh> perhaps you should bother to find out a bit more about things before you try to argue things about them 02.59.39 # ;) 02.59.42 # yes 02.59.52 Quit perrikwp ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") 02.59.58 Join perrikwp [0] (i=4aa794a0@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-86f82885313fe874) 03.00.19 # I have a random question about Rockbox if I may? 03.00.48 # no. questiontime is over for today 03.01.06 # Aww, please :'( ;) 03.01.08 # has story time begin? 03.01.19 # begun? 03.01.21 # * DerPapst points to the "do not ask to ask" rule in the irc guidelines 03.01.31 # k 03.01.47 # scorche thank you a lot for your help 03.01.52 Quit mrkiko (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 03.02.05 # The device I will try and get RockBOX ported to over the summer currently has a remote control, if drivers were coded properly, would the rockBOX build be able to support it? 03.02.13 # now i will stop wasting time on installing rockbox on a 6th generation.. 03.02.20 # laters take care 03.02.24 Part elcaste 03.02.30 # TheGazR: yes. rockbox already supports remote controls 03.02.36 # Ahh, sweet 03.02.59 # for iAudio and iriver 03.03.17 # and gigabeat 03.03.20 # you "just" have to write the driver for it :-P 03.03.45 # I was a little worried. My device has so many extra gadgets, video out for instance, it's going to be a nightmare writing drivers for handling it all :( 03.03.53 # it supports remotes with display and without 03.03.53 Quit webguest93 ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 03.04.16 # but no video out. 03.04.25 # what device is it? 03.04.52 # the angora vx435? 03.04.55 # Well, it's some dodgy Japanese one called Reddmango Angora vx435 03.04.57 # Yeah 03.05.03 # How did you know? 03.05.13 # the forums? 03.05.16 # crystal balls n stuff 03.05.26 # i added your name to twiki and just saw the thread in the forums :) 03.05.37 # yeah, well spotted :) 03.06.04 # i must say, best of luck! it looks like a nice device. 03.06.05 # Not many people seem to have the device, so it's going to be a busy summer for me I guess 03.06.40 # Thank you! yeah! It was an excellent price Ł50 ($100) it has a 120Gb HDD too, but absolutely dire firmware 03.08.05 # Hey. 03.08.26 # Hello 03.08.38 # I just purchased a Samsung P2. Looks like there isn't current work going on to develop Rockbox for that platform. 03.09.50 # There's some mention that it is similar to the Cowon D2. 03.09.58 # But the LCD screen is different. 03.10.13 # * DerPapst hopes for TheGazR that this thing doesn't have stupid encryption... 03.10.51 # How would I obtain the documentation for this device? 03.11.29 # angenehme nachtruhe! 03.11.33 Part danny_d 03.11.57 # Did I say something stupid? 03.12.13 # Please be patient Renfield 03.12.41 # Derpapst: I'm confused :S :P 03.12.49 # Oh. I just didn't know what danny_d said. 03.13.19 # TheGazR: never devices tend to have encrypted firmwares making it hard to port rockbox to them if not impossible 03.13.26 # *newer 03.13.56 # Renfield: something like "good night" 03.14.11 # yeah, if my German is what it used to be, he is saying sleep well 03.14.31 # Oh. 03.14.55 # * DerPapst should probably go to bed too. 03.15.00 # already 3:15am 03.15.17 # Derpapst: That's not good news to hear. I hope for my sake it doesn't. Is there any way to tell? 03.15.39 Join dsh-1 [0] (n=daishi@ool-18be2452.dyn.optonline.net) 03.15.49 # depends on your device. can you copy the firmware of this thing? 03.15.51 # It's such a good device, and it has so much potential, that it's just all being wasted by god-awful firmware 03.16.15 # I have managed to download a firmware version off the internet 03.16.36 # I don't know if I can copy the firmware directly from the device or not though 03.16.48 # It doesn't have a bootloader mode that I am aware of 03.16.49 # and maybe run it through a disassembler.... valid arm code good, weird looking one stoping to disassemble after some instructions -> bad 03.17.32 # you shoudl check if it has some kind of recovery mode incase something wents wrong 03.17.38 # I did a brief google search for a .bin dissembler, I couldn't find anything 03.18.16 # my god, that spelling was awful, I appoligise, disassambler* 03.19.03 # arm-elf-objdump 03.19.20 # and if you're rich enough IDA Pro :-P 03.21.04 # heh! That's a laugh, I'm a student 03.23.15 # well. then arm-elf-objdump :-P 03.26.17 # Where do I find that? A google search wasn't much use 03.26.21 # Is it freeware? 03.26.31 # Or is it something that's linux based? 03.27.22 Quit yoyoned ("Leaving.") 03.27.34 Join saratoga [0] (n=9803c6dd@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-781a5e5135809076) 03.27.44 Quit saratoga (Client Quit) 03.27.51 Join saratoga33 [0] (n=9803c6dd@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-9fcbc524e035c730) 03.28.59 # TheGazR, it's in svn, in the utils/ directory 03.29.03 Join saratoga [0] (n=9803c6dd@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-bb3e1adbad1476a3) 03.29.12 # it belongs to the gnu c compiler 03.29.29 Quit saratoga (Client Quit) 03.29.35 Join saratoga55 [0] (n=9803c6dd@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-81ded966eb0738d9) 03.29.48 # just svn co rockbox and run tools/rockboxdev.sh to compile the toolchain 03.30.10 # Ok, 03.31.03 # * DerPapst hopes he didn't say sometjhing entirely wrong :-) 03.31.14 # or better yet read teh developers wiki: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/ObjdumpGuide 03.31.37 Join amdgoon [0] (n=amdgoon@142.13.141.11) 03.31.59 Part amdgoon 03.32.07 Quit Steiner192 ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 03.32.35 Join amdgoon [0] (n=amdgoon@142.13.141.11) 03.32.51 Quit saratoga33 ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)") 03.37.03 # I just have a horrible feeling that it's going to be a complete disaster trying to port RB to this device. 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09.16.14 # front page... 09.16.24 # we want mail! 09.16.36 # Ah, my RSS reader hasn't picked it up yet. 09.16.56 # "ladies and genetlemen... we apparently have a new port that is working that none of us knew about!.. uh.. congrats?!" :D 09.17.12 # He's been updating in the forums. 09.21.42 Join Horschti [0] (n=Horscht@p4FD4ED4D.dip.t-dialin.net) 09.21.57 # I guess noone here has had a play with the trigger screen patch? 09.22.28 Quit Horscht (Nick collision from services.) 09.25.21 Join cuanva [0] (n=a8d1612a@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-350cd0b172970878) 09.25.25 # sorry, no time at all :( 09.26.19 Quit cuanva (Client Quit) 09.27.08 # no worries 09.32.17 Join MU{lappy} [0] (n=Militant@pool-72-70-183-80.hrbgpa.fios.verizon.net) 09.32.18 Quit davina (Remote closed the connection) 09.35.22 Join ender` [0] (i=krneki@foo.eternallybored.org) 09.38.23 Quit m0f0x ("bed") 09.40.10 Join XavierGr [0] (n=xavier@noname-213.5.185.93.acn.gr) 09.41.51 # why dont the talk functions check to make sure voice menus is on instead of the calling funcitons? 09.44.52 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 09.45.15 Quit homielowe () 09.45.50 # JdGordon: I moved those checks inward somewhat a while back - I can't remember why but I think there was a reason... 09.46.45 # If you do dig in there, make sure you respect the temporary voice disabling stuff (for recording, mainly)... 09.47.05 # so it should be checking to make sure we want to voice? 09.47.26 # I'd be happy for all such checks to be internal to the voice code, if possible. 09.47.51 # Higher levels/UI should be able to call regardless 09.48.35 # It may be that there's a talk API that's used by both file spelling and voice menus, and won't know the context... can't remember 09.48.57 # agreed, just thought it was wierd it was talking when the setting was disabled in some new code 09.49.17 # Where is this? 09.52.29 Join J [0] (n=john@cpc2-mfld9-0-0-cust297.nott.cable.ntl.com) 09.55.42 # fs#8989, calls to talk_id... 09.55.48 # anyway, i gtg now 09.55.57 # OK 10.03.10 # JdGordon: that's because the talk functions don't know what is being voiced, the "voice menus" and "voice directories" settings are separate 10.03.48 # so talk_id() can be called to voice a menu item, or to spell a file name 10.04.06 # so it won't know which setting to check 10.04.21 # that's why the check isn't performed in talk_id() 10.24.34 Quit nuonguy ("This computer has gone to sleep") 10.32.18 Join gregzx [0] (n=chatzill@dtg129.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) 10.32.19 Quit austriancoder ("Lost terminal") 10.32.44 # Quick lang question - if I want to change the word "Playback" to be "Playback Settings", and I change the english.lang and , do I need to update all other lang files too? 10.32.46 Join gevaerts [0] (n=fg@rockbox/developer/gevaerts) 10.33.13 # Or is the ID enough to tie them together? 10.33.23 # pondlife: No, you rather should *not* do that 10.33.43 # So... what should I do? Add a new block? 10.34.14 # LANG_PLAYBACK is only used in the one place. 10.36.36 Quit cool_walking_ (Remote closed the connection) 10.37.28 Nick Horschti is now known as Horscht (n=Horscht@xbmc/user/horscht) 10.42.46 # You should only change english.lang if you're not going to update the translations for real 10.43.19 # being different from english.lang is the hint for the translator that the phrase has changed 10.45.31 # OK, so I should just update english.lang then, as the phrase has changed slightly. 10.45.34 # ? 10.45.55 # yes 10.47.58 Join Arathis [0] (n=doerk@p508A707E.dip.t-dialin.net) 10.49.28 Join gregzx_ [0] (n=chatzill@dtg129.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) 10.50.50 Quit gregzx_ (Client Quit) 10.50.52 # Hmm, we have two menus - playlist_options and playlist_settings... 10.50.54 # jhMikeS: ffs? 10.53.00 # * pondlife took a while to realise that ffs probably isn't an expression of annoyance here. 10.54.23 # Flash File System? 10.54.37 # find first set bit (in constant time) 10.55.48 # that big red delta is a big oops (stack size increase for testing got left) :p 10.56.27 # :-) 10.57.54 Join borges [0] (n=bruges@brln-4d0c3ebd.pool.mediaWays.net) 11.00.53 Join desowin [0] (n=desowin@atheme/member/desowin) 11.01.06 Quit Seed (Nick collision from services.) 11.01.14 Join Seed [0] (i=ben@bzq-84-108-237-178.cablep.bezeqint.net) 11.06.01 Join pixelma [50] (i=pixelma@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 11.07.28 Quit gregzx (Connection timed out) 11.13.52 Join Stickman [0] (n=Miranda@82.152.82.149) 11.23.58 # pixelma: Would you like to try http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/9019 on one of the more limited-buttoned targets some time? 11.30.23 Join DerDome [0] (n=DerDome@dslb-082-083-226-206.pools.arcor-ip.net) 11.34.56 Join moos [0] (i=moos@m198.net81-66-127.noos.fr) 11.39.58 # pondlife: yes, I'd like to try on my Ondio 11.40.47 # I didn't add a "Quick Screen" option, do you think that would be worthwhile for button-limited targets? Or should the inclusion of Playback Settings cover enough? 11.42.30 # I didn't understand that part of proposal. What would a "Quick Screen" option do? 11.42.38 # Show the quick screen! 11.42.47 # A slow quick screen, if you will 11.43.01 # I don't like the idea much to be honest 11.43.18 # But thought you might find it useful - my targets all have enough buttons. 11.44.53 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 11.46.33 # so that would only be an "option" for targets without the quick screen? Or rather only for the Ondio... (because the player can't have a quick screen anyways). It would also be WPS quick screen only then and thinking of it... the quick screen is not included in the Ondio builds currently. I don't think that's worth it. 11.47.41 # I agree 11.48.04 # Thanks for your input though 11.49.45 # and I lived without the quick screen for so long and since the addition of the "Insert Shuffled" on directories don't miss it much - more like forgetting all the time that this thing exists when I use one of my other targets which came all way later. Having the playback option in the WPS context menu is enough (in my eyes and by the sounds of it, will try) 11.51.21 # I'll give it a couple of days before I commit it (while I buy some armour to protect me against the 6 study mode/EQ fans)... 11.51.40 Join dabujo [0] (i=xx@p4FDB2504.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 11.53.39 Join TaylorKillian [0] (n=Administ@wl198118.wright.edu) 11.53.46 Join Sjano [0] (i=Sjano@217-132-139.211310.adsl.tele2.no) 11.53.50 # hi 11.54.00 # lo 11.54.22 # how can i add, edit and remove music in the rockbox database? 11.57.03 Quit Arathis ("Bye, bye") 11.59.29 # Sjano: re"initialise" or "update" it. Maybe enable the "auto-update" but that's said to only work reasonably fast with dircache enabled and the database loaded to RAM. I don't know what you want to edit... 12.01.06 # edit id tags on the music 12.01.14 # and also: what player do you have? 12.01.22 # ipod v5 60GB 12.01.58 # Sjano: there's no ID3 editor in Rockbox, you can only do that from a PC 12.02.14 # i tried to update database, but it just didn't do anything but taking a long while. 12.02.31 # Sjano: the onlly id tag that you can edit "on the fly" is the rating info one, no more 12.03.47 # how can i see the location of the music? since my ipod has like 7000 files and the rockbox finds like 9500 music files? and most of them are songs i've deleted and duplicates 12.03.56 # that's not an ID3 tag though, only stored in Rockbox's database 12.04.40 # Sjano: like pixelma said you, that need an update 12.05.32 # Sjano: in the WPS context menu there is an option to view track info, one entry shows you the path too. 12.06.08 # Update rockbox itself? but i think i got the latest,,,, and update database? well, it doesn't find anything new or update the id tags i've made on files... in other words it dont work 12.06.36 Nick fxb__ is now known as fxb (n=felixbru@h1252615.stratoserver.net) 12.07.11 # Sjano: you can try to delete the database files stored on the .rockbox folder, and then recreate a new one.... 12.07.17 # where do i find wps context menu? 12.07.34 # you might want to empty the recycle bin (or run the disktidy plugin). Maybe read the manual a bit... ;) 12.07.41 # * moos points to Snajo the rockbox manual ;) 12.10.59 Join ReKleSS [0] (n=ReKleSS@122.109.208.109) 12.13.08 Join tvelocity [0] (n=tony@athedsl-4420511.home.otenet.gr) 12.18.35 # anyone opposed to commiting the mod codec? 12.19.26 # The actual codec one? 12.19.30 # yes 12.20.12 # I've got no lined up objections, at least. 12.20.24 # preglow: please do 12.20.49 # * pixelma only hopes that committing it, gives more incentive to improve it 12.21.04 # i'll commit it soon if there are no objections, i'm aware it has issues, but those will be easier revoled when it's in 12.21.11 # pixelma: let's hope so 12.21.20 #