--- Log for 22.05.108 Server: leguin.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: @logbot_ Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 19 days and 10 hours ago 00.00.10 Join dabujo [0] (i=xx@p4FDB2256.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 00.00.43 Join BlakeJohnson86 [0] (n=bjohnson@c-24-118-135-22.hsd1.mn.comcast.net) 00.01.56 Quit Xqtftqx ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") 00.02.12 Join CyBergRind|w [0] (n=cbr@212.98.160.130) 00.02.26 Quit davina (Remote closed the connection) 00.03.23 Quit miepchen^schlaf () 00.04.31 Join gregzx [0] (n=chatzill@dtl230.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) 00.06.07 Join miepchen^schlaf [0] (n=miepchen@p54BF52F1.dip.t-dialin.net) 00.06.13 Join linuxstb_ [0] (n=linuxstb@rockbox/developer/linuxstb) 00.06.20 Join fml [0] (n=4fd3dae6@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-9fdaf3470cc01f92) 00.06.43 Quit linuxstb (Nick collision from services.) 00.06.47 Nick linuxstb_ is now known as linuxstb (n=linuxstb@rockbox/developer/linuxstb) 00.07.23 # bluebrother: coming back. Is it possible to tell whether the selected DAP type in the RbUtil matches the connected dap? 00.07.27 Part toens 00.08.37 # I think it's possible. How the auto detect would work otherwise? 00.08.41 # fml: depends on. If it's a player with a unique USB PID then it's possible without any trouble 00.09.09 # if not you need to look more detailed. I.e. scan for specific files / partition layout 00.10.04 # and this scanning can take a few seconds. But it could be done in prior to installing anything 00.11.07 Nick JdGordon|zzz is now known as JdGordon (i=jonno@rockbox/developer/JdGordon) 00.13.25 # bluebrother: in my case, auto detect worked Ok, and this would prevent installing a wrong build (e200 on h120) 00.14.18 Join bluebroth3r [0] (n=dom@rockbox/staff/bluebrother) 00.14.27 Quit bluebrother (Nick collision from services.) 00.14.31 Nick bluebroth3r is now known as bluebrother (n=dom@rockbox/staff/bluebrother) 00.14.41 # fml: sorry, cardbus crashed my box :( 00.15.04 # JdGordon: DerPapst said that the bug report I filed was for you 00.15.16 # yeah, just saw it 00.15.22 # ill look into it today 00.16.03 # JdGordon: the solution could be to switch the icons on and restore the original state when exiting the plugin. Just the first thought of mine. 00.16.39 # yep, might have to do that 00.17.08 # ...if that also would work on daps with small screens 00.17.44 Quit fml ("CGI:IRC") 00.18.35 Join nedd2 [0] (n=john@nat/sun/x-75085328c28d0cdd) 00.18.48 Quit petur ("Zzzzz") 00.18.49 Quit nedd2 (Remote closed the connection) 00.19.11 Quit [CBR]Unspoken|w (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00.19.46 Join nedd2 [0] (n=john@nat/sun/x-5f45f6092653cb6d) 00.21.59 Join AceNik [0] (n=AceNik@117.98.65.232) 00.22.15 # uys is high-speed usb faster of full-speed 00.22.21 # or? 00.22.42 Quit dabujo (Connection timed out) 00.22.44 # "uys" ? 00.22.47 Quit nedd2 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 00.22.54 # guys* 00.22.55 # high speed is faster 00.23.04 # ok 00.23.27 Quit ender` (" I went to a restaurant that serves "breakfast at any time." So I ordered French Toast during the Renaissance.") 00.25.32 Quit SirFunk (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 00.25.35 Join nedd2 [0] (n=john@nat/sun/x-4b3feba9c3882fec) 00.26.12 Quit MethoS- (Remote closed the connection) 00.26.44 Join SirFunk [0] (n=Sir@206-159-155-246.netsync.net) 00.28.17 # scorche|sh: I just committed a small change. During autodetection the tree is now disabled (i.e. greyed out) 00.28.19 Join MethoS- [0] (n=clemens@pD955C535.dip.t-dialin.net) 00.28.56 # optimally it would show a centered splash in the tree view, but now it's time for some sleep. At least there is some feedback now ;-) 00.30.00 Quit bluebrother ("leaving") 00.33.47 Quit obo ("bye") 00.33.57 Join csc` [0] (n=csc@archlinux/user/csc) 00.37.35 Quit AceNik ("Trillian (http://www.ceruleanstudios.com") 00.38.38 Join grimbeorn [0] (n=WP-Gast@217-162-108-65.dclient.hispeed.ch) 00.38.41 # web 00.39.41 Quit herrwaldo ("Konversation terminated!") 00.39.57 # rockbox 00.40.26 # grimbeorn: can we help you? 00.41.22 # yes 00.42.02 # take these pills 3 days a day after meals.... that should sort you out 00.42.12 Part domonoky 00.42.29 Join sneakums [0] (i=sneakums@jenny.ondioline.org) 00.43.01 # thanks, Dr. JdGordon 00.45.12 Quit moos ("Rockbox rules the DAP world") 00.45.52 Join einhirn_ [0] (n=Miranda@p5B0317F7.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 00.46.05 # where can I get those pills? and what are they called? 00.46.16 # on topic please 00.46.46 # well, JdGordon started this conversation 00.46.55 # so lets end it now 00.47.17 # maybe JdGordon has something to add? 00.47.30 # grimbeorn: seriously now... 00.47.38 # ok 00.52.06 Part grimbeorn 01.00.11 Join fdinel [0] (n=Miranda@modemcable097.232-203-24.mc.videotron.ca) 01.02.38 Join midkay_ [0] (n=midkay@70-58-84-219.tukw.qwest.net) 01.02.45 Join Llorea1 [0] (n=DarkkOne@adsl-69-154-187-90.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net) 01.03.50 Quit fdinel (leguin.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 01.03.50 NSplit leguin.freenode.net irc.freenode.net 01.03.50 Quit BlakeJohnson86 (leguin.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 01.03.50 Quit m0f0x (leguin.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 01.03.50 Quit FOAD (leguin.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 01.03.50 Quit DerPapst_ (leguin.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 01.03.50 Quit Thundercloud (leguin.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 01.03.50 Quit midkay (leguin.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 01.03.50 Quit Llorean (leguin.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 01.03.50 Quit daywalker (leguin.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 01.03.50 Quit lostlogic (leguin.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 01.04.04 Join Thundercloud [0] (n=thunderc@resnet04.nat.lancs.ac.uk) 01.04.04 *** Server message 505: 'logbot_ :Private messages from unregistered users are currently blocked due to spam problems, but you can always message a staffer. 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im trying to add a patch and i get "File to patch:" and i dont know what to do 01.42.52 Quit robin0800 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 01.42.57 Quit daywalker ("ZNC by prozac - http://znc.sourceforge.net") 01.45.09 Join JdGordon|uni [0] (i=768ae056@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-435e50ebac427cc9) 01.45.14 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 01.45.24 Quit DerPapst (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 01.45.48 Join DerPapst [0] (n=Der_Paps@p5B23DF4F.dip.t-dialin.net) 01.49.32 # Hey, DerPapst 01.49.47 # Turns out, the firmware WASN'T encrypted 01.49.53 # good :) 01.50.10 # Though, I have had a very stressful day, but finally I feel that the Wiki is complete 01.50.16 # http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/AngoraVX435 01.52.23 # I can't find the datasheet for one chip though :'( 01.52.39 # that's not so good :-/ 01.53.47 # but somehow I've managed to find all the rest with lots of help from mcuelenaere today 01.54.16 Join linuxstb_ [0] (n=linuxstb@rockbox/developer/linuxstb) 01.55.43 Join Davide-NYC [0] (n=chatzill@user-0cev9vm.cable.mindspring.com) 01.55.59 # Oi! 01.56.10 Quit Nico_P (Remote closed the connection) 01.56.23 Quit linuxstb (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 01.56.23 # There are nicer ways to come into a chat room Davide 01.56.25 # Question: In five words or less, what is the MOD codec? 01.56.58 # Hello TheGazR, no worries mate, folks know I mean no harm. 01.57.00 # a sequenced music format codec 01.57.13 # do I win a prize? 01.57.14 # Thanks Shaid. 01.57.40 # um, my thanks? 01.57.45 # :-) 01.58.09 # will that keep me warm at night? 01.58.36 # I think that is conversation for #rockbox-community 01.59.15 # DerPapst: Any ideas how I could make this mo'fo fail-safe? 02.00.23 # For about 5 hours we were trying to work out how to change the rom file 02.00.34 # In the case of a bad port 02.00.49 # how is the firmware stored, and is there some kind of failsafe mode incase it becomes corrupted? 02.01.22 Quit jhMikeS (Nick collision from services.) 02.01.28 Join jhMikeS [50] (n=jethead7@rockbox/developer/jhMikeS) 02.01.39 # How the firmware is updated now: I stick a file on the hard disk, open it using the navigating mode on the device, and ti does the rest 02.01.47 # and I couldn't find a fail-safe mode 02.03.03 Quit DerDome ("Leaving.") 02.03.10 # I should probably put those details on the Wiki realy 02.03.12 # +l 02.03.17 # probably 02.03.24 # and perhaps an image of the actual device 02.04.06 # Shaid: not sure if that wouldn't violate the copyright 02.05.19 # TheGazR: honestly, i have no idea.... the only suggestion i could do is to try it out. e.g. try to figure out the firmware file format. 02.06.25 # and then try to create a firmware with some arm assembly to sleep 5 seonds which then jumps to the firmware 02.08.30 Join inigomontoya [0] (n=621cdcfd@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-f167f9a673b6ec26) 02.09.37 Quit JdGordon|uni ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") 02.11.07 # The firmware file format is .bin 02.12.58 # and 0x0 is already an arm instruction? 02.14.40 # I don't know 02.15.26 Quit Xqtftqx ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") 02.15.40 Join JdGordon|uni [0] (i=768ae056@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-e4158be09feabf7c) 02.15.44 # seems not 02.15.59 # so you have to figure out the format. 02.16.03 Nick midkay_ is now known as midkay (n=midkay@70-58-84-219.tukw.qwest.net) 02.16.16 # like if there are any headers, what they mean, checksums etc 02.16.54 Join homielowe [0] (n=eric_j_l@d205-250-152-29.bchsia.telus.net) 02.17.14 # well, I ran the bin file through IDA Pro, and got lots of information 02.19.39 # ah ok. 02.20.37 Quit JdGordon|uni (Client Quit) 02.25.05 Quit nedd2 ("Leaving.") 02.28.30 Nick borges is now known as borges|afk (n=bruges@brln-4d0c9c49.pool.mediaWays.net) 02.30.04 Join mackes [0] (n=root@cpe-24-198-43-238.buffalo.res.rr.com) 02.30.40 Join cool_walking_ [0] (n=notroot@203-59-129-195.perm.iinet.net.au) 02.33.34 Quit homielowe () 02.34.02 Join homielowe [0] (n=eric_j_l@d205-250-152-29.bchsia.telus.net) 02.34.07 Join SirFunk_ [0] (n=Sir@206-159-155-246.netsync.net) 02.37.29 Nick Llorea1 is now known as Llorean (n=DarkkOne@adsl-69-154-187-90.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net) 02.42.05 Quit inigomontoya ("CGI:IRC") 02.43.22 Quit nedd1 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 02.45.27 Quit SirFunk_ ("Ex-Chat") 02.48.53 Join SirFunk_ [0] (n=Sir@206-159-155-246.netsync.net) 02.50.28 Join toffe82 [0] (n=chatzill@adsl-71-154-235-247.dsl.frs2ca.sbcglobal.net) 02.50.37 Part pixelma 02.51.09 Join DaCapn [0] (n=dacapn@c-67-170-177-22.hsd1.or.comcast.net) 02.51.49 Quit SirFunk (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 02.54.37 Join daywalker [0] (n=daywalke@ip-77-87-189-6.dnspower.de) 02.55.11 Quit einhirn_ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 03.11.42 Quit Rob2223 () 03.12.33 Nick SirFunk_ is now known as SirFunk (n=Sir@206-159-155-246.netsync.net) 03.12.50 Quit SirFunk ("Ex-Chat") 03.13.06 Join SirFunk [0] (n=Sir@206-159-155-246.netsync.net) 03.18.18 Quit XavierGr (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 03.18.39 Quit gregzx ("ChatZilla 0.9.82.1 [Firefox 2.0.0.14/2008040413]") 03.23.56 Join Rob2222 [0] (n=Miranda@p4FDCC14F.dip.t-dialin.net) 03.27.07 Join vcardenas [0] (n=be185ea2@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-19a57802894e2a7d) 03.32.35 Quit vcardenas ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)") 03.45.15 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 03.45.58 Join Kornfan71 [0] (n=chatzill@cpe-24-210-150-61.woh.res.rr.com) 03.49.47 # Hey, I'm getting an odd error message on Rockbox on my Sansa e200. Anyone care to explain it? 03.50.29 # * scorche gazes into his crystal ball to find out the error message 03.50.40 # =P 03.50.54 # Data Abort at 00008000 (0) 03.51.46 # it means that there was a data abort at that specific memory location...it is a bit useless to you, although do you have a way to reliably reproduce it? 03.52.16 # possibly. It happened over and over again while playing one certain song. 03.52.29 # couldnt make it stop...happens about 21 seconds in 03.52.48 # and I had it happen before...about 21 seconds into ANOTHER song 03.52.56 # each and every time you play that song? 03.53.19 # Last I checked...I can look again if you want 03.53.26 # please do 03.53.29 # alright brb 03.54.46 # this time it happened about 13 seconds in...same song 03.55.18 # totally locks up...takes a 10 seconds power button hold to make it turn off 03.55.30 # have you tried updating to the current build and then trying?? 03.56.08 # this last time I used a 17xxx it had a bug w/ the previous button...so im on..... 03.56.20 # 16906 03.56.27 Quit linuxstb_ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 03.56.33 # please try with the latest build 03.56.44 # alright...gimme 7 minutes 03.57.00 # that build is around 700 revisions old.. 03.57.06 Quit MethoS- (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 03.57.11 # yeah... 03.58.15 # i reverted to a older version awhile ago... 03.58.15 Join linuxstb_ [0] (n=linuxstb@rockbox/developer/linuxstb) 03.58.40 # thought it was more stable....irony 03.58.55 # not necessarily 03.59.51 # night al 03.59.52 # l 04.01.55 # ok trying again 04.03.02 # data abort at 00008D28 (0) 04.03.14 # can you host the file somewhere? 04.03.18 # different but.....about 25 seconds 04.03.34 # you mean the song? 04.03.38 # yes 04.03.51 # ack....email would be easiest... 04.04.35 Quit Thundercloud_ (Remote closed the connection) 04.05.06 # you good w/ that? 04.06.57 Quit culture_ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 04.07.08 Join culture [0] (n=sam@79.97.22.57) 04.07.10 # scorche:is it ok if i email it to you? 04.07.36 Quit daywalker ("ZNC by prozac - http://znc.sourceforge.net") 04.07.39 Join daywalker [0] (n=daywalke@ip-77-87-189-6.dnspower.de) 04.11.12 Join JdGordon|uni [0] (n=768aa360@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-15e2bb213fcd1841) 04.12.52 Join jhulst [0] (n=jhulst@unaffiliated/jhulst) 04.13.50 Quit perrikwp ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") 04.15.37 Join fdinel [0] (n=Miranda@modemcable097.232-203-24.mc.videotron.ca) 04.16.21 # anyone here with the sansa m200 v2 series ready for electronic probing? :) 04.20.10 Join perrikwp [0] (i=4aa794a0@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-63a5920fb32141c2) 04.21.25 Quit DerPapst (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 04.22.31 Part Kornfan71 04.25.43 Quit cool_walking_ (Remote closed the connection) 04.33.26 Join Kornfan71 [0] (n=chatzill@cpe-24-210-150-61.woh.res.rr.com) 04.33.53 # scorche you there? 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I just converted over to Ubuntu from OS X and I am having trouble finding software that will convert avi files to mpg so that rockbox can read them. I have a pc and if anyone here can point me in the right directiong that would be very great. Thanks. 06.46.42 # the pluginmpegplayer wiki page has the info 06.46.42 Quit alcholica (Client Quit) 06.47.21 # http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/PluginMpegplayer#How_To_Encode_Files 06.48.36 # he/she left hehe 06.53.06 Quit Naked (leguin.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 06.53.06 NSplit leguin.freenode.net irc.freenode.net 06.53.06 Quit feisar (leguin.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 06.53.12 Quit Slasheri (leguin.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 06.53.12 Quit Jon-Kha (leguin.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 06.53.12 Quit suom1 (leguin.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 06.53.12 Quit inakilbol (leguin.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 06.53.12 Quit Ave (leguin.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 06.53.12 Quit sneakums (leguin.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 06.53.12 Quit crope` (leguin.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 06.53.12 Quit perrikwp (leguin.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 06.53.12 Quit super_ (leguin.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 06.53.12 Quit ch4os (leguin.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 06.53.12 Quit parafin (leguin.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 06.53.12 Quit Overand (leguin.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 06.53.12 Quit DataGhost (leguin.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 06.53.32 NHeal leguin.freenode.net irc.freenode.net 06.53.32 NJoin feisar [0] (i=jljhook@irkki.fi) 06.53.32 NJoin Naked [0] (i=naked@naked.iki.fi) 06.53.32 Join super [0] (i=super@c80-217-96-162.bredband.comhem.se) 06.53.32 NJoin inakilbol [0] (i=0@86.122.116.44) 06.53.32 NJoin super_ [0] (i=super@c80-217-96-162.bredband.comhem.se) 06.53.32 NJoin perrikwp [0] (i=4aa794a0@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-63a5920fb32141c2) 06.53.32 NJoin crope` [0] (n=crope@dyn3-82-128-185-80.psoas.suomi.net) 06.53.32 NJoin sneakums [0] (i=sneakums@jenny.ondioline.org) 06.53.32 NJoin DataGhost [0] (i=dataghos@unaffiliated/dataghost) 06.53.32 NJoin ch4os [0] (n=ch4os@unaffiliated/ch4os/x-059673) 06.53.32 NJoin Overand [0] (i=overand@pdpc/supporter/active/Overand) 06.53.32 NJoin Ave [0] (i=ave@a91-152-238-56.elisa-laajakaista.fi) 06.53.32 NJoin parafin [0] (i=parafin@paraf.in) 06.53.32 NJoin Jon-Kha [0] (i=jon-kha@xdsl-83-150-91-127.nebulazone.fi) 06.53.32 NJoin suom1 [0] (i=suom1@irssi.mobi) 06.53.32 NJoin Slasheri [0] (i=miipekk@rockbox/developer/Slasheri) 06.55.07 Quit simonrvn (Remote closed the connection) 07.01.11 Join simonrvn [0] (i=simon@unaffiliated/simonrvn) 07.04.56 # Davide-NYC: hey 07.05.17 # Bad news... After using the trigger feature (with aptch number 3) and making a recording I am no longer able to playback anything on the player even after a reboot. I just keep getting a codec failure. I think the file is not being written correctly to disk. 07.05.43 # I can playback the file file from my pc using USB mode. 07.06.19 # FWIW I use a fairly non-standard target: H1x0 with CFMod and RTC 07.07.03 # thats odd.. and totoally gucked up :) and im not sure how this could have done it... but ok 07.07.28 # I just unmounted the drive from bootloader USB mode and got an ATA error -80. 07.07.44 # let me try this on my other target. (same mods unfortunately) 07.08.10 Quit super_ (Connection timed out) 07.09.51 Quit linuxstb_ (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 07.10.39 # JdGordon: There's also lack of remote button suport. *although* the remote induces noise in a recording so shouldn't be used for recording anyways, although I may be taking a purist approach that others do not take. 07.12.20 Join linuxstb [0] (n=linuxstb@rockbox/developer/linuxstb) 07.24.39 # JdGordon: Good news for you (bad news for me) there is something wrong with my CF card. When using my other CFMod+RTC H120 the patch works fine. 07.24.58 # oh well... 07.25.24 # im probably going to commit that patch tonight though, but ill remember to fix the remote keymap (por at least add it) before hand 07.25.33 # What do you think should be done about remote buttons? Some folks don;t care about a little interference. 07.26.03 # the stop icon in the trigger screen doen't update either. 07.26.06 # if they want to use them i wont stop them 07.26.15 # :-) 07.26.49 # Has there been any discussion about separating the core audio code from the UI code recently? 07.27.13 # your talking about the recording screen proper? 07.27.27 # Yes 07.27.31 # nup 07.27.51 # I tihnk petur hinted he might do it.. but dunno 07.28.06 # It would be a great step towards improving the WRS. 07.28.39 # yep 07.29.17 # If there's anything else you want me to test just holler. 07.29.39 # I'm a very willing tester when it comes to all things recording. 07.30.40 # Urghh, I now have a message on my primary H120 that says "no partition found". Any ideas? 07.31.40 # cf is dead> 07.31.41 # ? 07.32.10 # I'll attempt a re-partition, reformat. See if that helps. 07.32.33 # I want to remind you that there are three remotes for the iriver H1x0 and H3x0 series. 07.33.03 # Of course you do not have to consider the LCD-less remote, but the joystick one should not be forgotten. 07.33.12 Nick fxb__ is now known as fxb (n=felixbru@h1252615.stratoserver.net) 07.35.48 Join neddy [0] (n=john@nat/sun/x-e38d7c1ce1ff7b51) 07.36.57 Nick fxb is now known as fxb__ (n=felixbru@h1252615.stratoserver.net) 07.38.13 Quit simonrvn ("poi1341gh") 07.38.55 Quit Davide-NYC (leguin.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 07.38.55 NSplit leguin.freenode.net irc.freenode.net 07.38.55 Quit daywalker (leguin.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 07.38.55 Quit lostlogic (leguin.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 07.38.55 Quit BlakeJohnson86 (leguin.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 07.38.55 Quit toffe82 (leguin.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 07.41.34 Join ompaul [0] (n=ompaul@gnewsense/friend/ompaul) 07.45.22 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 07.47.04 Join BHSPitLappy [0] (n=BHSPitLa@unaffiliated/bhspitmonkey) 07.49.46 NHeal leguin.freenode.net irc.freenode.net 07.49.46 NJoin Davide-NYC [0] (n=chatzill@user-0cev9vm.cable.mindspring.com) 07.50.15 # JdGordon: Bad news, it happens on both targets. 07.50.22 # (sorry) 07.50.28 # no it doesnt! 07.50.36 # *this isnt a bug* 07.50.42 # * JdGordon waves hand wierdly 07.50.53 # These are not the droids I'm looking for? 07.51.05 # * Davide-NYC I could have sworn! 07.51.59 # I can test on an unmodded H140 tomorrow if you think it'll reveal something CF specific. 07.52.17 Join peter_b [0] (n=biertrin@p5497BBB6.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 07.52.28 # more likely some wierd playback issue.... can you try with svn? 07.52.45 # there is a tiny bit of alogic changed in the patch, but 99.9% of it is ui 07.52.55 # you mean just a plain vanilla curent H120 build? 07.53.13 # yes, 07.53.23 # you did a full rebuild and install right? 07.53.56 # wait. 07.54.11 # I'm using the pre7 bootloader and I'm booting from RAM. 07.54.24 # * Davide-NYC wants to die from embarassment. 07.55.24 # mo0ning 07.55.37 # morning 07.55.53 # Davide-NYC: You tested both test builds on your h1x0? 07.56.06 # yessir 07.56.32 # but I'm not booting from the right place. 07.56.33 # Your comment doesn't state which one you tried, and whether just one of them or both fix the problem 07.56.34 NJoin daywalker [0] (n=daywalke@ip-77-87-189-6.dnspower.de) 07.56.34 NJoin BlakeJohnson86 [0] (n=bjohnson@c-24-118-135-22.hsd1.mn.comcast.net) 07.56.34 NJoin lostlogic [50] (n=lostlogi@rockbox/developer/lostlogic) 07.56.37 Join pondlife [50] (n=Steve@rockbox/developer/pondlife) 07.57.02 # * amiconn is talking about the remote lcd problem in case that was unclear 07.57.26 # none of my testing thus far (today) is relevant. 07.58.00 # I've been booting from RAN instead of HD the whole time. 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(I can't remember) 08.01.07 # I have no idea 08.01.14 # hold switch. 08.01.22 Quit BHSPitLappy (Remote closed the connection) 08.01.22 # * amiconn uses plain bootloader v6 08.02.00 # If the remote is working fine in SVN for you, all slowed down test builds are guaranteed to work as well 08.02.41 # The testing needs to be done on units where the remote doesn't like the high transfer speed 08.03.01 # amiconn: I think you are confused as to what I am testing here. 08.03.04 # My H180 is working fine with svn too - that's why I was calling for testers 08.03.19 # I'm testing out JdGordon's recent trigger menu patch 08.03.22 # I am referring to your comment here: http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/8840 08.04.04 # Oh. Yeah I had no problems with wither remote type. 08.04.14 # *either 08.04.43 # I just have to remember to change my boot option when I do patch testing. 08.05.32 Join Rob2223 [0] (n=Miranda@p4FDCDB50.dip.t-dialin.net) 08.07.18 # JdGordon: The patch seems to be a OK! \o/ It is my brain that requires some serious patching. 08.07.31 # I must now sleep. Later. 08.07.38 Quit Davide-NYC ("ChatZilla 0.9.82.1 [Firefox 2.0.0.14/2008040413]") 08.09.02 Quit peter__b (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 08.11.53 # player is the only target without recording or quickscreen isnt it? 08.12.46 Nick Bright-SUSaiyan is now known as SUSaiyan (n=SUSaiyan@cc84863-b.zwoll1.ov.home.nl) 08.13.34 # hmm... one of the ondios doesnt record does it :/ 08.17.13 Quit miepchen^schlaf_ () 08.23.34 Quit Rob2222 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 08.24.00 Join simonrvn [0] (i=simon@unaffiliated/simonrvn) 08.24.48 Quit BigBambi (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 08.27.41 # JdGordon: Yes, the SP 08.27.53 Quit ompaul (No route to host) 08.28.22 Join crwl [0] (n=crawlie@a88-114-143-95.elisa-laajakaista.fi) 08.28.23 # The Ondios have no quickscreen either. 08.28.58 # * amiconn wonders in what way the quickscreen is related to the recording screen though 08.33.12 # they both share code from option_select which nothing else use 08.33.12 # s 08.34.20 Join aliask [0] (n=chatzill@rockbox/developer/aliask) 08.36.56 Join ompaul [0] (n=ompaul@gnewsense/friend/ompaul) 08.38.09 Quit aliask (leguin.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 08.38.09 NSplit leguin.freenode.net irc.freenode.net 08.38.09 Quit daywalker (leguin.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 08.38.09 Quit lostlogic (leguin.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 08.38.09 Quit BlakeJohnson86 (leguin.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 08.42.41 Quit JdGordon ("Konversation terminated!") 08.43.52 Join linuxstb_ [0] (n=linuxstb@rockbox/developer/linuxstb) 08.44.57 Quit linuxstb (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 08.45.35 NHeal leguin.freenode.net irc.freenode.net 08.45.35 NJoin aliask [0] (n=chatzill@rockbox/developer/aliask) 08.45.35 NJoin daywalker [0] (n=daywalke@ip-77-87-189-6.dnspower.de) 08.45.35 NJoin BlakeJohnson86 [0] (n=bjohnson@c-24-118-135-22.hsd1.mn.comcast.net) 08.45.35 NJoin lostlogic [50] (n=lostlogi@rockbox/developer/lostlogic) 08.47.49 # ah 08.52.01 Join davina [0] (n=davina@cpc1-sout6-0-0-cust616.sotn.cable.ntl.com) 08.52.34 Join spiorf [0] (n=spiorf@host126-226-dynamic.25-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) 08.56.36 Join ender` [0] (i=krneki@foo.eternallybored.org) 08.59.03 Join LinusN [0] (n=linus@rockbox/developer/LinusN) 09.00.06 Join Mathiasdm [0] (n=Mathias@78-22-5-158.access.telenet.be) 09.08.53 Join culture [0] (n=sam@79.97.22.57) 09.09.49 Join tvelocity [0] (n=tony@athedsl-4420511.home.otenet.gr) 09.17.02 Quit spiorf (Remote closed the connection) 09.19.56 Join JdGordon [0] (n=Miranda@c210-49-157-20.smelb1.vic.optusnet.com.au) 09.20.50 Join petur [50] (n=petur@rockbox/developer/petur) 09.23.15 Join stripwax [0] (n=Miranda@87-194-34-169.bethere.co.uk) 09.23.22 Quit stripwax (Client Quit) 09.23.25 Quit Horscht (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 09.23.41 Join Horscht [0] (n=Horscht@p4FD4FDE6.dip.t-dialin.net) 09.23.49 Join J [0] (n=john@cpc2-mfld9-0-0-cust297.nott.cable.ntl.com) 09.24.48 Quit Mathiasdm ("Yuuw!") 09.33.12 Quit aliask ("ChatZilla 0.9.82.1 [Firefox 3.0b5/2008050509]") 09.45.25 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 09.48.44 Quit nuonguy ("This computer has gone to sleep") 09.50.40 Join linuxstb__ [0] (n=linuxstb@i-83-67-212-170.freedom2surf.net) 09.55.24 Quit Shaid (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 09.57.55 Join ender1 [0] (i=krneki@foo.eternallybored.org) 09.59.13 # Anyone object if I commit the revised WPS context menu (http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/9019) ? 09.59.58 Join mrkiko [0] (n=mrkiko@host177-100-static.32-88-b.business.telecomitalia.it) 10.00.55 # Sounds useful. 10.01.17 # I think I'll just do it and await any flak. 10.02.01 Join Mathiasdm [0] (n=Mathias@78-22-5-158.access.telenet.be) 10.02.55 # 'tis done. 10.03.19 Join [1]ender [0] (i=krneki@foo.eternallybored.org) 10.04.11 # What! What were you thinking!? This is horrible! 10.04.13 # :P 10.04.45 Quit linuxstb_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 10.05.17 # Heh, you had 4 whole days to vote on it... and I didn't even hang up the "Beware Of The Leopard" sign. 10.06.27 Quit perrikwp ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") 10.08.13 # I've been out of the loop for way more than 4 days... 10.08.30 # I'll stop now. 10.12.15 Join linuxstb_ [0] (n=linuxstb@rockbox/developer/linuxstb) 10.13.21 # pondlife: I predict a good deal of flack, and at least one feature request, probably about 3, to bring back EQ 10.14.11 # Llorean: Are you sympathetic to that request? It's in Sound Settings.... 10.14.17 # No. 10.14.20 # I'm not in the slightest. 10.14.28 # I'm the one who first explicitly stated EQ should not be in that menu. 10.14.29 # Well that makes two of us. 10.14.58 # I just expect a *lot* of people who don't follow development are going to be caught off guard by its disappearance, and probably some will think it's a bug. 10.15.20 # then they should pay more attention to the commit log ;) 10.15.25 # Yes 10.15.28 # and irc... 10.15.28 Quit ender` (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 10.15.35 # EQ? What's that? :P (I never use it.) 10.15.46 # Well, according to a custom build author at iAudiophile, nothing useful or interesting has happened in Rockbox since March anyway 10.15.49 # I think I've asked around enough to pre-publicise this change. 10.16.08 # That's ok, he/she can use a March build if he desires. 10.16.09 # Llorean: What?! What about MOD support? 10.16.17 # (I find that worthy of note.) 10.16.25 # pondlife: You've covered your ass, though one might say "just barely". I personally set the minimum boil time as "1 week", but I think this qualifies as a fix rather than a feature change. 10.16.37 # Mouser_X: This was shortly before MOD support. 10.16.51 # That just means they're impatient then. 10.16.56 # Should have waited. 10.17.04 # But after improvements to WMA, fixes to metadata on buffer, the removal of a disk spinup every track change if dircache was off (disabling dirache being nice for the lower memory of those targets), etc.. 10.17.58 # Llorean: My hacking time is somewhat limted, I probably could have waited for the next window. But the change was approved by 70%+ of voters and I didn't think that likely to change. 10.18.43 # Figured it's going to upset people whether I do it now or next year. 10.18.47 # pondlife: Yes. And the justification for it is rock solid. I think it's fine. 10.20.08 Quit ender1 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 10.20.51 # Unbelieveably, I seem to have once again killed the build server... Bagder?? 10.22.32 # * pondlife suspects there's a line in the build scripts .... "if ($COMMITTER!='pondlife' ) dobuild();" 10.22.42 # (in some made-up scripting language) 10.25.13 Quit linuxstb__ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 10.26.10 Quit ompaul (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 10.26.29 # Then again, it'll probably just get edited back in for custom builds, and a large portion of users will never know it's gone. 10.26.49 Quit Mathiasdm ("Yuuw!") 10.27.16 # What's the main driving feature behind custom builds now? Multifont? 10.27.50 # I would think that album art and viewport support in SVN have reduced their use (or production) a little. 10.29.54 Join Mathiasdm [0] (n=Mathias@78-22-5-158.access.telenet.be) 10.29.58 # Bagder: ping 10.30.38 # pondlife: Well, the person at iAudiophile's main reason for it is that viewports can't be inside conditionals. 10.30.57 # Which would, I think, be resolved if you could have viewports conditionaled based on Album Art, and Pause. 10.36.33 # poor pondlife, builds realise its such a terrible commit its refusing to do the build :D 10.36.59 # JdGordon: Actually, it might just have indigestion from your last 2 commits ;) 10.37.10 # touche! 10.37.49 Quit Mathiasdm ("Yuuw!") 10.38.58 # is there any technical reason we cant allow viewports to be set up and enabled/disabled by a conditional? 10.39.09 Join DerDome [0] (n=DerDome@dslb-082-083-198-184.pools.arcor-ip.net) 10.39.10 Quit DerDome (Nick collision from services.) 10.39.11 Join DerDom1 [0] (n=DerDome@dslb-082-083-198-184.pools.arcor-ip.net) 10.39.14 # Seriously, given that I only commit about once every month, it's unlucky that my past 3 commits have all apparently killed the build server.. 10.39.19 Nick DerDom1 is now known as DerDome (n=DerDome@dslb-082-083-198-184.pools.arcor-ip.net) 10.39.23 # or is it more of a case that we dont really wont it? or noone has done it? 10.39.23 Quit DerDome (Client Quit) 10.39.31 # JdGordon: They're processed at parse-time, rather than display time. Maybe that's a flaw that should be fixed... 10.39.39 Join DerDome [0] (n=DerDome@dslb-082-083-198-184.pools.arcor-ip.net) 10.39.58 # i.e. the current implementation basically treats the WPS as many WPSs, one per viewport. 10.40.58 # Isn't that a good thing (e.g. for a WPS-style status bar)? 10.41.13 # IMO we need conditional viewports though - to fully replicate the scrolling margins capabilities. 10.41.38 # Did any more progress get made on a customisable status bar, btw? 10.41.52 # proccessed how? 10.42.02 # * JdGordon needs to check out the wps code 10.42.17 Join Mathiasdm [0] (n=Mathias@78-22-5-158.access.telenet.be) 10.42.51 # customisable SB wont be usable properly untill the entire UI can be drawn in a viewport instead of assuming it has the whole screen 10.43.07 # we are almost there... 10.43.12 # What's remaining? 10.43.21 # rec, fm are the main ones 10.43.24 # Ah, ok 10.43.55 # JdGordon: They're turned into viewport structs immediately, and not stored as tokens in the WPS token data. Each viewport contains "start" and "end" pointers into the token data, and the "wps_draw" function (or whatever it's called) simply iterates through all viewports, displaying all lines in that viewport. 10.43.58 # Of course, those could perhaps be WPS-ified too... 10.44.04 # * linuxstb_ has to run 10.45.46 # linuxstb_: (for the log i guess..) couldnt a flag be added to the viewports to display them or not which would be set by a conditional... the only issue here is that the viewport would have to be drawn after the conditional (or worse case it gets done next redraw) ? 10.46.36 # * JdGordon rebooting 10.46.46 Quit JdGordon (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 10.49.34 Join JdGordon [0] (i=jonno@c210-49-157-20.smelb1.vic.optusnet.com.au) 10.51.41 # * JdGordon reckons it could be done 10.52.58 # Darn tootin'! 10.53.12 # whats the viewport token tag? 10.55.24 # * JdGordon bbl 11.03.11 Quit linuxstb_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 11.03.46 Join ompaul [0] (n=ompaul@gnewsense/friend/ompaul) 11.03.50 Join Bagderr [0] (n=daniel@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-dcb7c92a5a11633b) 11.04.02 Quit ompaul (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 11.04.06 Quit Horscht ("I got raided by the FBI and all i got is this lousy quit message") 11.04.17 Nick Bagderr is now known as B4gder (n=daniel@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-dcb7c92a5a11633b) 11.04.41 Join ompaul [0] (n=ompaul@gnewsense/friend/ompaul) 11.12.35 Join moos [0] (i=moos@m198.net81-66-127.noos.fr) 11.15.13 Join tedrock [0] (n=tedrock@d235-156-24.home1.cgocable.net) 11.17.10 Quit m0f0x () 11.18.46 Join PaulJam [0] (i=PaulJam_@vpn-3075.gwdg.de) 11.21.02 Quit mrkiko (Remote closed the connection) 11.23.28 Join dabujo [0] (i=xx@p4FDB201F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 11.23.40 Join fml [0] (n=4fd3d39b@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-f4ae057469245824) 11.23.56 # Is the build server down? 11.25.05 # why? 11.25.18 Join ompaulafk [0] (n=ompaul@gnewsense/friend/ompaul) 11.25.31 # it hasnt picked up the latest commit 11.25.33 Quit ompaul (No route to host) 11.26.54 # it does have a bug which makes it miss commits occasionally 11.28.18 # JdGordon: and a nice one! 11.32.06 Quit ompaulafk (Client Quit) 11.35.08 Join ompaul [0] (n=ompaul@gnewsense/friend/ompaul) 11.39.52 Join lee-qid [0] (n=liqid@p549664C8.dip.t-dialin.net) 11.43.56 # B4gder: It always seems to miss my commits... 11.44.23 # now is that a coincidence or not? B-] 11.44.39 # * pondlife is naturally paranoid - please don't stoke it... ;) 11.45.02 # sorry, the voices in my made forced me to type that 11.45.02 # The delta table looks a bit confused too... 11.45.12 # * B4gder can't type head 11.45.29 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 11.45.46 # why's the delta table confused or how? 11.47.22 Quit Makuseru (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 11.47.43 Join Makuseru [0] (n=max@163.106.40.24.aeneasdsl.com) 11.48.28 Join desowin [0] (n=desowin@atheme/member/desowin) 11.52.18 # B4gder: in the uclinux source tree of sigma I have found some patch conflicts from an atmel related patch. Strange. 11.53.06 # well, hardly a surprise that may not at all be the actual code they use... 11.53.13 Join DerPapst [0] (n=Der_Paps@p5B23CBAC.dip.t-dialin.net) 11.54.04 # I wonder why they applied an atmel patch in the first place. 11.54.28 Join Horscht [0] (n=Horscht@xbmc/user/horscht) 11.54.43 # can't that be from the source where they got the uclinux tree from? 11.55.32 # perhaps 11.56.15 # uclinux is very commonly cloned and developed on elsewhere 11.56.27 # so there are a bazillion of very similar ones 11.56.33 # that hardly ever merge 11.56.59 Quit Makuseru (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 11.57.18 Join Makuseru [0] (n=max@163.106.40.24.aeneasdsl.com) 12.00.14 Join Buschel [0] (n=AndreeBu@p54A3ECDE.dip.t-dialin.net) 12.08.43 Join linuxstb_ [0] (n=linuxstb@rockbox/developer/linuxstb) 12.09.21 Join pixelma [50] (i=pixelma@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 12.11.11 Join ali_as_ [0] (n=as@ambix.plus.com) 12.11.39 Quit tedrock () 12.16.27 Quit gevaerts (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 12.19.17 Join crash91 [0] (n=crash@41.232.205.37) 12.20.55 Quit crash91 (Client Quit) 12.20.56 # JdGordon: I noticed that in your rectrigger diff there is also a change in the Id line of the c200 keymap file. With my keymap patch(es) I had that too and been told now that this is because there is an additional : in it in SVN which doesn't belong there. Do you think it's worth it to fix it seperately beforehand? 12.21.29 Join TMM [0] (n=hp@c514753fe.cable.wanadoo.nl) 12.22.02 Join PaulJam_ [0] (i=PaulJam_@vpn-3063.gwdg.de) 12.22.12 Quit fml ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)") 12.23.00 Join gevaerts [0] (i=51f206a8@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-f8752c7bd59b2155) 12.23.01 Join Nico_P [50] (n=nicolas@rockbox/developer/NicoP) 12.23.49 Join MethoS- [0] (n=clemens@pD955DC86.dip.t-dialin.net) 12.33.46 Nick linuxstb_ is now known as linuxstb (n=linuxstb@rockbox/developer/linuxstb) 12.36.07 Join fml [0] (n=4fd3d39b@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-508c2b0870319531) 12.38.05 Quit ali_as (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 12.39.23 Quit Horscht ("User was distributing pornography on server; system seized by FBI") 12.39.57 Quit PaulJam (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 12.41.23 # damn, i forgot one usecase when reworking the mpc buffered seek :( 12.41.28 # need to do an update 12.42.47 Join bliv [0] (n=d31eb734@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-f61bd0fa805f6954) 12.42.53 # hi 12.43.09 Quit bliv (Client Quit) 12.43.53 Join bliv [0] (n=d31eb734@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-9a86e59c29732faf) 12.44.02 # hi 12.44.16 # hey 12.44.44 # i have a problem using pictureflow on h320. You reckon you might be able to help? 12.45.30 # as you can see, we're many people here quite possibly someone can help 12.46.07 # Cool thanks, it says "could not allocate temporary buffers" 12.46.28 # do you have music playing? 12.46.33 # bliv: did you stop playback? 12.46.51 # hmm mayhmm yes' 12.49.04 # Kk thanks that worked. Now i just have question marks. However i see album art in WPS 12.51.15 Join crash91 [0] (n=crash@41.232.205.37) 12.51.52 # How to you reset database? 12.51.57 # *do 12.52.53 # bliv: Long press database and select Initialize 12.53.23 # bliv: Long press the select button i mean 12.54.14 # Thanks mate 12.54.41 # bliv:Yw 12.55.18 # bliv: you need to restart for the database to completely finish rebuilding. 12.55.57 # Oh btw if i use Media Monkey is there any way to transfer my ratings of songs over to Database? 12.56.14 # bliv: Depends on what player you have. 12.56.20 # h320 12.56.31 # crash91: ? 12.56.50 # pixelma: Recent and Ratings dont work on the sansa.. 12.56.52 Join Thundercloud [0] (n=thunderc@resnet09.nat.lancs.ac.uk) 12.57.07 Quit ompaul (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 12.57.22 # So can it be done? 12.57.31 # oh wait...You cant transfer ratings in any case...I dont think so. 12.57.45 # damn kk thx alot 12.57.55 # crash91: what should be different on Sansa? 12.58.06 # anytime in the future ? :P 12.58.58 # pixelma: Sorry i got a bit muddled, but IIRC Recent items in database work on the ipod, but not the sansa. 13.00.24 Quit lee-qid ("aufwiederbyebientotsayonara") 13.01.12 # Buschel: Regarding r17604, does this mean there's no maximum filesize for seeking in MPC, but the granularity can decrease a lot in excessively large files. 13.01.24 # Llorean: yes 13.01.37 # Specifically, if I were to be seeking in say an 18 hour audiobook, would I be looking at a very low granularity? 13.01.49 # Is it linear, I suppose. 13.02.01 # crash91: works on my c250... would have surprised me if not 13.02.06 # yes, it is linear. but at least it is working now 13.02.09 # Er, very "poor" since I guess "low" vs "high" could be confusing. 13.02.13 # Are there plans to improve it, then? 13.02.15 # So is their anyway to transfer my ratings from Media MOnkey to my Player OR at least edit ratings on the computer for rockbox. 13.02.43 # pixelma: Well, I have an e250. 13.03.01 # again: what should be different there? 13.03.09 # Llorean: if you want fast seek -> no. musepack sv7 is not streamable, you'll have to step through the stream 13.03.56 # =/ 13.04.10 Quit bliv ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 13.04.13 # I mean people shouldn't be using mpc for audiobooks anyway. 13.04.28 # pixelma: Well last i checked it doesnt work but I have absolutely no idea why. 13.04.49 # crash91: If the setting's there, but it doesn't work in current SVN releases, why haven't you filed a bug report? 13.05.43 # I guess it was a user error then because it uses the same code after all 13.06.42 # Llorean: why is this a problem? ogg files are just like this and there we don't even try to build a seek table 13.06.53 # and ogg is used for audio books 13.06.56 # Ive just checked, nothing is listed in Recently played and everything is in "Never played" 13.07.14 # preglow: Well, I didn't know Ogg is like this. 13.07.16 # crash91: do you have "gather runtime data" enabled? 13.07.37 # pixelma: Aha, that must be it. No, i didnt 13.08.03 # Llorean: it is, you have to step through each ogg packet looking for a specific granulepos when seeking 13.08.04 # Llorean: one of the main disadvantages of sv7 mpc is that you cannot sync on frames. that's why the seeking is quite difficult. sv8 corrects this 13.08.07 # bluebrother: the selected device is not visible after you click on e.g. 'Install Rockbox' 13.08.35 # Buschel, preglow: Well I guess accurate to within 8 seconds on the longest files *I* could imagine using isn't too bad. 13.08.53 # it's as accurate as you want, i'd imagine, it just means it's slightly slower 13.09.06 # you can still seek more accurately, the seek table just gives you a good early estimate 13.09.10 # Well, it's as accurate as you want if you compile a customized build of Rockbox. 13.09.12 # i don't know if this is how we do it for musepack now, of course 13.09.52 # i doubt we deal with this properly even for mp3, where the seek table is tiny 13.09.55 # and inaccurate 13.09.57 # Seems like "expected differences in codec behaviour" might belong in the manual, now I think of it. NSF's strangeness with subtracks, for example. Or codecs that don't seek (the same way as others) 13.10.35 # we'll pretty much always have notable differences 13.10.41 # so yeah, i guess some manual mention should go in 13.11.16 Join EspeonEefi [0] (n=espeonee@c-75-66-48-243.hsd1.tn.comcast.net) 13.11.17 # SID has subtracks. Another reason why I'd like them to stop playing infinitely. 13.12.15 Quit BlakeJohnson86 ("Leaving.") 13.12.30 # Mouser_X: But that requires some form of external metadata, doesn't it? 13.12.43 # not the subtracks, but proper track lengths do 13.12.59 # i wonder if that text file might be massagable into something that rockbox can read faster 13.13.06 # Well yes, but without proper track lengths it's difficult to do anything reasonable with the infinite looping. 13.14.29 # hopefully mod won't loop infinitely too someday soon (the old codec could find the track ending so it must be doable) 13.16.27 # it is doable, but it will sometimes miss 13.16.38 # it basically just finds the spot in the mod that loops back 13.16.47 # and that isn't the right spot in some mods 13.16.59 # so this detection will actually render some mods unplayable 13.18.37 # i guess codec settings are inevitable 13.19.44 # Many modplayers are able to detect the proper end (e.g. DeliPlayer), so it's definitely doable 13.20.19 # hmm... IIRC some mods also looped infinitely with the old codec but I can't remember that it skipped too early (have not tested a large amount though, about 100) 13.20.21 # NSFs only play for 2 minutes, and then skip to the next song on the subset. Or you could "seek" to the next song in the subset by holding previous/next. If you have "repeat 1" on, it will play every song in the subset infinitely. You can skip to the next song by pushing previous/next (no holding necessary). 13.21.12 # If it's NSFe, then it can have specific track times. 13.21.40 # SID could be done the same way (excluding the way that NSFe works of course). 13.21.41 # amiconn: sure, we could always sequence through the entire file for a long time, then employ pattern recognition :) 13.23.31 # As it stands right now, I find SIDs to be essentially useless. All I ever hear is the first song in the file looped too many times, and then I skip to the next file (not the next song in the file). 13.24.14 # (Could just be me, but I haven't figured out the exact time necessary to hold the button to skip to the next song in the subset.) 13.25.33 # Thus, if I am to do this, I need to take the DAP out of my pocket, turn off hold, and watch what I'm doing. This gets to be entirely frustrating, if I am to attempt doing this for every song in the SID. 13.25.50 # * pixelma wonders if the mod codec gets a correct "slot" in the WPS codec conditional, only tested with plain displaying the codec which worked correctly 13.26.27 Quit jhMikeS (Nick collision from services.) 13.26.27 # While I agree that NSF isn't perfect (there are some that don't even play through once in 2 minutes), it's better than SID. 13.26.33 Join jhMikeS [50] (n=jethead7@rockbox/developer/jhMikeS) 13.26.55 # And you can always turn on "repeat 1" if you want to make sure you hear the whole thing. 13.27.10 # how on earth do they have multiple SIDs in one file? 13.27.23 Quit Thundercloud (Remote closed the connection) 13.27.23 # Multiple songs in one SID file. 13.27.38 # is there then a TOC somehow? 13.27.58 # multiple sids in one file is perfectly standard 13.28.06 # songs 13.28.31 # standard how? isn't sids just the songs in 6502 assembly? 13.28.57 # standard as in half of all sids files i've ever listened to have had multiple tracks in them 13.29.05 # i don't know how it's done technically 13.29.34 # i guess you'll see it more often in games than in scene stuff 13.29.37 # I just can't think of any original c64 way that ws done 13.29.48 # sidplay did it 13.29.52 # afaik 13.30.00 # If a SID is at all like an NSF, then it's actually a collection of data. An NSF is created from a NES ROM, removing the cruft that is unecessary for audio. A SID, if pulled from a Commadore 64 program, could be the same way. 13.30.04 # sure, but I speak of the actual binary data 13.30.07 # But I don't actually know how SIDs are done. 13.30.17 # Mouser_X: sids and nsfs work the same 13.30.40 # most sane game formats do, with the odd exception 13.30.43 # * B4gder is the author of a SID editor and playback routine 13.30.45 # like .gym 13.30.50 # back in the days 13.30.58 # B4gder: which is why it surprises me you haven't heard of it :> 13.31.00 # GYM is very different. That's a logged format. 13.31.13 # preglow: as I say, that's not related to the actual binary 13.31.19 # which is why I'm curious 13.31.24 # hmm 13.31.27 # GYM (and VGM) has more in common with streamed formats than (most) emulated formats. 13.31.34 # someone somehow must add meta data 13.31.43 # i've coded a sid loader myself, and now that i think of it, i can't remember having seen any details on this 13.32.03 # long time ago, though 13.32.25 # B4gder: The only metadata I know of for SIDs is some nasty database type of thing... I'm really not sure though. 13.32.50 # anyone think i can persuade the "rockbox player" people to stuff a 6581 in there? :> 13.33.05 # well, I can't rule out that a large chunk of facts may have fallen out of my brain 13.33.43 Join gregzx [0] (n=chatzill@dtl230.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) 13.33.57 Quit Mathiasdm ("Yuuw!") 13.34.03 # preglow: PSF doesn't contain all the songs in one file. Though, for those xSF formats that are based on ROMs, most contain the songs in the xSFLIB file... 13.34.39 # Sorry, off-topic. I'll stop. 13.34.41 # psfs still use the sid scheme, though 13.34.49 # How so? 13.34.52 # they're programs 13.35.24 # i wonder how many logged formats there are, and why someone started using that scheme at all 13.35.59 # True. But if they're PSF (as opposed to miniPSF), they only contain 1 song. The miniPSFs also contain only one song, but there's enough data common between the various PSFs, that it saves on space to have all that common data in the xSFLIB file. 13.36.46 # The only logged formats I know of are VGM, GYM, and SPU (which is logged PSX stuff). 13.37.24 # pixelma: meh, I'm not one to care about how small a commit is.. (look at my last diff....) 13.39.08 Join xou [0] (n=niko@f054102003.adsl.alicedsl.de) 13.39.43 # Sorry to have gotten into that... I only intended to explain how NSF currently worked, and that SID would benefit from doing the same. 13.39.53 # indeed 13.40.02 # we should figure out a consistent way to do sub tracks, though 13.40.22 # i guess we already handle it with cue sheets 13.40.33 # (Though, it seems that some have argued that the current NSF implementation needs to be "fixed." True or not, that wasn't what I was talking about.) 13.41.05 # hi, is it safe to remove the Folders iPod_Control, Contacts etc from my iPod nano if i am sure i am never going to use the iPod firmware any more? 13.41.54 # preglow: Would cue sheets work for subtracks in NSF/etc. Just a cue sheet listing how long each track should play? 13.41.56 # xou: yes 13.42.01 Part crash91 ("Ex-Chat") 13.42.17 # Llorean: i don't really know how the cuesheet stuff works internally 13.42.18 # ok, thanks! 13.42.19 Join Horscht [0] (n=Horscht@xbmc/user/horscht) 13.42.23 # Even if NSF needs to be fixed, I say that getting SID to follow its lead for now (and fix it later with NSF) would be good. 13.42.43 # *fix it and NSF 13.42.44 # pixelma: you around? 13.43.01 # somewhat 13.43.30 # whatcha rekon aobut the 2 line settings? commit as is and see what people that actually use the screen say? 13.43.30 Join returntoreality [0] (n=linus@p5497DE4D.dip.t-dialin.net) 13.44.15 Quit xou ("using sirc version 2.211+KSIRC/1.3.12") 13.44.22 # Llorean: There's an implementation for NSFs (and GBS, and a few others) that use M3U files to specify time, tracks, titles, etc. 13.44.40 # (I prefer NSFe, but other do not. I'm not sure why.) 13.44.56 # JdGordon: I couldn't test on the target with the smallest screen... didn't hurt me on M5. Haven't tested on c200 yet but probably should as that has a small screen too 13.44.57 Quit fml ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 13.45.32 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 13.45.58 # 2 line setting? 13.46.07 # in the rec trigger screen 13.47.16 # roit 13.47.42 # thats a "yep, go for it... I wont notice the diffrenrce" ? 13.48.04 # that's a "i hardly ever even enter the recording screen, and wouldn't be able to give a helpful comment" 13.49.13 # I've have been in the recording screen, but only by mistake ;-) 13.49.38 # i've noticed that the recording screen does tend to have rather a lot of its own solutions to things, though... 13.50.05 # not so nice... with the font I use on the c200 I get 5 lines in the scrollable settings part, so it is comparable to the Archos screen... and it feels like the space is wasted, probably because the c200's screen is more a "widescreen" 13.50.20 Join BlakeJohnson86 [0] (n=bjohnson@c-24-118-135-22.hsd1.mn.comcast.net) 13.51.58 # the thing that could bother someone who uses triggered recording regularly most is that you need to scroll for adjusting the thresholds ("for at least" is between the two and is important too) 13.53.05 Quit DataGhost (Nick collision from services.) 13.53.13 Join DataGhost [0] (i=dataghos@unaffiliated/dataghost) 13.53.53 # FS#8078 has a method for splitting NSFs. 13.54.18 # I think HCS didn't commit it though, because such playlists can't be created from on-target. 13.54.42 # (Though, the code might not be clean either.) 13.55.06 # its just... to put it back on one line it will be a bit hacky, unless i can do each line like "trigger: off" (i.e the value isnt right aligned) 13.55.41 # mod codec in a WPS conditional works btw... now to update the included themes that have codec bitmaps... 13.55.51 # * JdGordon realised his tree is clean so leaves this for later and gets onto conditional viewports 13.58.43 # JdGordon: couldn't it use 2 viewports? I could imagine putting it on one line without the right alignment of the value quite well unless the line has to scroll (which I know it does on the Archos screen for some settings, at least in German) :\ 13.59.12 # Mouser_X: i'd say any solution that requires you to create playlists on a computer is unacceptable 13.59.14 # well, I'm trying to use the standard list code... 13.59.41 # preglow: Understandable. I only bring it up as a possible solution. 14.00.07 # (Perhaps a method could be devised to allow creation of such playlists on target. A plugin or something?) 14.02.19 # IMO, that sounds reasonable. Implement specialized playlists for SIDs, NSFs, ect, and a plugin that can create said playlists. 14.02.55 # How are cue sheets made (if NSFs turn out to be handled in that manner)? 14.03.21 # Nico_P: you round? 14.03.32 # yes 14.04.20 # got a min for some wps fun? 14.04.34 # sure 14.05.12 Join Mathiasdm [0] (n=Mathias@78-22-5-158.access.telenet.be) 14.05.44 # Mouser_X: why would we want to involve playlists? 14.05.49 Join leftright [0] (n=d9e1ee2e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-ee6a6c79b1b19d55) 14.06.13 # I want to add a tag "%Ve|blaa|yes" which you could stick in a conditional.. what it would do is tell the rest of th code to ignore a vieport or not.. problem is in get_token_value() you dont have access to the origional wps text do you? would the only way to do this is like images and give it a letter and set it up during the parsing stage? 14.06.19 # i really think we should treat subtracks as first-class citizens, that is asking for complexity issues 14.06.29 # should NOT treat them as... 14.06.51 # my kingdom for writing skills 14.07.02 # preglow: I am not at all familiar with cue sheets honestly. Playlists are one method I'm familiar with. 14.07.28 # (This is why I asked how cue sheets are created. Can they be made on-target?) 14.07.56 # preglow: Hi, I have an album which has bumpy track transitions, would you be interested in it for gapless trouble shooting purposes ?, the album isn't supposed to be gapless but perhaps it is a good example of bad track transitions. 14.08.11 # its mp3 14.08.44 # JdGordon: no, there's no access to the original text. maybe giving a letter could work 14.09.48 Join nplus [0] (n=npl@141.25.globcom.net) 14.11.11 # would anyone else be interested in this album with bumpy track transitions ? 14.11.18 # * Buschel is such a horse.... 14.11.20 # found the bug 14.11.35 # heh 14.11.49 Join borges|afk_ [0] (n=bruges@brln-4d0c388b.pool.mediaWays.net) 14.12.05 Quit leftright ("CGI:IRC") 14.12.37 Join leftright [0] (n=d9e1ee2e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-a1f50e307f816e23) 14.12.48 Quit leftright (Client Quit) 14.13.12 Join leftright [0] (n=d9e1ee2e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-9bb18cee64fe27cc) 14.14.00 # leftright: what kind of file? 14.14.20 # I thought he said it was MP3. 14.14.38 # urmm, its a album with 5 mp3 tracks 14.14.43 # leftright: sure i'll take it 14.14.53 # ok should I pastebin it ? 14.15.06 # leftright: pastebin an album??? is that possible? 14.15.07 # er rather "yousendit" 14.15.20 # do whatever you wish, dcc/email/upload 14.15.26 # heh.. maybe base 64 encoded :-P 14.15.43 # and rot13 encrypted! 14.16.26 # i prefer blowfish-encrypted data by carrier pigeon, but i realize i can't have everything my way 14.16.43 # preglow: would you mind giving me an email address that I can use for yoursendit please 14.16.48 Quit Mathiasdm ("Yuuw!") 14.18.45 Quit Zarggg ("Pursued by a bear") 14.21.05 Quit borges|afk (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 14.21.48 Quit homielowe () 14.26.04 # * JdGordon doesnt get the wps stuff :/ 14.26.51 # what don't you get? 14.27.23 # everything :p 14.27.29 # also, im pretty tired 14.28.38 # arg, bbs 14.29.15 Join domonoky [0] (n=Domonoky@rockbox/developer/domonoky) 14.29.15 Quit domonoky (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 14.31.08 Join domonoky [0] (n=Domonoky@rockbox/developer/domonoky) 14.32.58 Part B4gder 14.34.38 Quit domonoky (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 14.34.55 Join stooo [0] (n=sto@y066163.dynamic.ppp.asahi-net.or.jp) 14.36.20 # yop@ 14.36.27 Join domonoky [0] (n=Domonoky@rockbox/developer/domonoky) 14.36.29 # preglow: gotta run and yousendit has turned out to be complicated, will send the album in a few days time, Many Thanks. 14.36.33 Quit leftright ("CGI:IRC") 14.38.17 Quit returntoreality (Remote closed the connection) 14.41.01 Quit domonoky (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 14.41.16 # * Buschel hopes to have everything solved now and will leave for free day now :o) 14.41.18 # bye 14.41.25 Quit Buschel () 14.42.59 Join domonoky [0] (n=Domonoky@rockbox/developer/domonoky) 14.44.11 Join ompaul [0] (n=ompaul@gnewsense/friend/ompaul) 14.50.37 Quit ompaul (SendQ exceeded) 14.57.53 # Nico_P: shouldnt gwps_common.c:1993-1999 be outside the for (v = 0; v < data->num_viewports; v++) loop? 14.58.11 Quit nplus (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 14.58.37 Quit stooo (Remote closed the connection) 15.00.57 Join nplus [0] (n=npl@141.25.globcom.net) 15.02.31 Join stooo [0] (n=sto@y066163.dynamic.ppp.asahi-net.or.jp) 15.06.58 # I dont suppose anyone is around that would whip up a really quick wps which they want to conditionally show a viewport? 15.08.50 Join ompaul [0] (n=ompaul@gnewsense/friend/ompaul) 15.10.03 Join LambdaCalculus37 [0] (i=44a0430f@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-bd9d40e6ca645e87) 15.18.27 # Nico_P: linuxstb: whatcha rekon? http://pastebin.ca/1025855 adds an option extra field thingy to the current %V which if used it defaults to hiding the viewport until %Ve... 15.18.42 Quit gregzx ("ChatZilla 0.9.82.1 [Firefox 2.0.0.14/2008040413]") 15.27.32 Quit dabujo (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 15.28.03 Join dabujo [0] (i=xx@p4FDB201F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 15.30.26 Join crash91 [0] (n=crash@41.232.205.37) 15.30.48 Join gevaerts_ [0] (n=fg@195-144-092-135.dyn.adsl.xs4all.be) 15.32.58 Quit gevaerts ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") 15.33.20 Nick gevaerts_ is now known as gevaerts (n=fg@195-144-092-135.dyn.adsl.xs4all.be) 15.34.09 Quit nplus (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 15.34.31 Join nplus [0] (n=npl@141.25.globcom.net) 15.38.05 # :'( Why am i being told "No Token" !? 15.38.40 # "Failed parsing on line 3 : Invalid parameter list for token 7: "No token"", line 3 is... "%V|6|0|208|176|1|000000|B6C6E5|0|" 15.41.52 Quit Makuseru (Remote closed the connection) 15.42.08 Join XavierGr [0] (n=xavier@rockbox/staff/XavierGr) 15.42.21 # the last 0 belongs to your changes? 15.42.55 Join Makuseru [0] (n=max@163.106.40.24.aeneasdsl.com) 15.42.59 Quit pondlife (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 15.43.48 # yes 15.43.58 # im trying to make that extra one optional 15.45.35 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 15.51.43 # unclosed conditional? 15.52.59 # question? ;) 15.53.26 # arg, my parsing is broken... but im getting closer 15.58.58 Quit spleenk (Remote closed the connection) 15.59.36 Join Arathis [0] (n=doerk@p508A55E8.dip.t-dialin.net) 16.04.42 Join spleenk [0] (i=torstehe@leopard.stud.ntnu.no) 16.11.33 # it almost works :D 16.11.47 # Yay! :D 16.12.24 # getting closer! 16.13.33 # * LambdaCalculus37 gets the confetti ready 16.15.43 # Nico_P: I'm gonna need your help here.... (if youve got a minute) 16.16.42 Part stooo 16.19.55 # and its now working! excpet with a nasty issue which I'm not sure how best to fix it 16.20.25 # * JdGordon checks how images are done 16.21.35 # hmm.. images are always redrawn! 16.21.37 Quit Ragnor (Nick collision from services.) 16.21.47 Join Ragnor [0] (n=Ragnor@dslb-084-062-120-234.pools.arcor-ip.net) 16.22.43 Quit ali_as_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 16.23.16 Quit crash91 ("Ex-Chat") 16.25.27 Quit DerPapst (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 16.26.49 Part LinusN 16.28.55 # * JdGordon is getting himself very confused 16.29.36 # I need to set some flag saying that the viewport was previously hidden but now its visible so redraw the whole thing (and other way around) but not sure how to 16.39.44 Join shrizza [0] (n=grimm@p2187-ipad02yosemiya.okinawa.ocn.ne.jp) 16.40.17 # So, just wondering if the iPod CPU frequency scaling bug has actually been fixed yet. 16.40.46 # Without significantly compromising battery life, of course. 16.41.44 # looooooong time ago....try a new build and see ;) 16.45.39 # * JdGordon back to almost getting it working 16.45.51 Nick fxb__ is now known as fxb (n=felixbru@h1252615.stratoserver.net) 16.45.59 # damn logic errors and it being 12.50am :p 16.48.58 # * JdGordon freeking kicks ass! 16.51.24 Join toffe82 [0] (n=chatzill@h-74-0-180-178.snvacaid.covad.net) 16.52.31 # Successfully manage to give myself a reddmango paperweight, go me! 16.53.55 Join DerPapst [0] (n=Der_Paps@dslb-084-059-015-086.pools.arcor-ip.net) 17.00.07 # amiconn: is bmp drawing "expensive" once you have the bmp in a buffer? 17.01.09 Quit ompaul (Client Quit) 17.03.30 # Nico_P: pixelma: linuxstb: (anyone else interested!) FS#9027 17.07.25 # JdGordon: will this work within alternating sublines? 17.07.43 # one way to find out.... 17.07.57 # it should... 17.08.12 # ok 17.08.28 # test it out and let us know? :) 17.09.25 Join Thundercloud [0] (n=thunderc@resnet11.nat.lancs.ac.uk) 17.09.52 # i'm already compiling an uisim 17.10.58 # was my explanation understanable? 17.12.22 # i guess. i'll ask if i have additional questions or if something doesn't work as expected 17.13.27 # ask away... but its after 1am here so im heading to bed.. eventually :p 17.14.11 # well, i also have a flyspray account. so i don't think this will be a problem 17.18.18 Quit nplus (Remote closed the connection) 17.28.23 Join nplus [0] (n=nplus@141.25.Globcom.Net) 17.28.27 Quit nplus (Remote closed the connection) 17.29.40 # Would you consider a device to be bricked if it does something? 17.30.49 # depends on the something.. 17.30.57 # Bricked usually means "unrecoverable", so you first have to try a lot of things 17.31.07 Nick JdGordon is now known as JdGordon|zzz (i=jonno@rockbox/developer/JdGordon) 17.31.09 # * gevaerts can't suggest things unfortunately 17.31.17 # What exactly happens ? 17.31.36 # well, I misunderstood something that was said, now I turn on the device, and the only thing that happens is the hard disk starts spinning 17.31.47 # JdGordon: are the Viewports still not allowed to overlap even if only one of them is shown at a time? 17.32.15 # What happens if you plug in the usb cable ? (both before the device starts, and after) 17.32.45 # nothing 17.32.55 # JdGordon|zzz: sorry, I was sleeping 17.34.02 # What did you do to get it like this ? 17.35.01 # well, it's highly embarrising, but: I told last night to test a bad flash 17.35.17 # so I figured a bad flash to be turning the device off mid-flash 17.35.27 # so I did that :S 17.36.44 # ouch :( 17.37.22 # feel like a right idiot, heh 17.37.47 # Do they have some sort of support line or email ? 17.37.49 # I'm just clinging onto hope that there's something I can do 17.37.53 # I've sent an email 17.43.39 # Let's hope that there is some sort of magic key combo 17.44.03 # linuxstb: is the logik dax build supposed to compile ? 17.44.24 Join perrikwp [0] (i=4aa794a0@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-e89ae13a5b86c18e) 17.44.27 # Yeah! I hope so 17.45.16 # Is it still under warranty ? (except that you opened it of course, that could be tricky...) 17.45.33 # It is still under warrenty, but I opened it 17.45.35 # yeah :P 17.45.36 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 17.46.02 # It's my own fault! I was an absolute idiot! and now I'm left with a 120Gb laptop hdd at best (Unless I can find a fix) 17.46.24 # gevaerts: No, I don't think it does. I've only been working with the bootloader so far. 17.47.07 # Serves me right for buying cheap devices with dire firmware really :P 17.47.20 # linuxstb: The bootloader doesn't compile either. It complains about missing VOLUME_MIN and VOLUME_MAX in sound.c 17.47.31 # That must be new... 17.48.18 # The easiest fix would probably be to not compile sound.c for bootloader builds. 17.49.38 # Probably. The bootloader doesn't really need sound 17.50.12 # I think sound.c is compiled to do the hardware init 17.50.45 Join mcuelenaere [0] (n=mcuelena@rockbox/developer/mcuelenaere) 17.51.06 # gevaerts: I don't know about the Logik DAX, but I was able to compile an m200 bootloader with no problems. 17.51.12 # It doesn't seem to matter. If I don't compile sound.c the bootloader build completes 17.51.23 # Compiling a build just needed me to "make bin" instead of just "make". 17.52.19 # When was that ? The VOLUME_MIN and VOLUME_MAX was added about a week ago 17.53.10 # gevaerts: On Monday, when I uploaded those photos of the bootloader running on my m240. 17.54.39 Join n1s [0] (n=nils@rockbox/developer/n1s) 17.54.40 # * gevaerts thinks that DAB is a good reason to support usb audio 17.58.25 Join gregzx [0] (n=chatzill@dtg237.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) 18.05.52 Join jasondazed [0] (n=62df340c@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-b4f909624357b2ac) 18.08.48 Nick fxb is now known as fxb__ (n=felixbru@h1252615.stratoserver.net) 18.11.00 # Does anyone happen to know if Rockbox will support .m4b encoded files? 18.11.16 # It already does. 18.11.28 # hmm, when did the "open with..." menu item get removed from the wps context menu, and should it be put back or removed from the manual? 18.11.35 # Ok, thanks 18.11.41 # As long as the files are DRM-free. 18.11.45 Quit toffe82 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 18.12.06 # n1s: Umm, it needs to be restored 18.12.37 # It's needed e.g. for the spliteditor 18.12.37 # amiconn: ok, I'll look into it 18.12.44 Join dan_a [0] (n=dan-mirc@217.23.173.156) 18.14.35 # gevaerts: Maybe it's simpler just to fix sound.c for the DAX, so we don't clutter up the files with more #ifdefs. The linker will probably ignore all of sound.o for the DAX anyway. 18.15.02 # ^for the DAX bootloader 18.17.53 Join Mathiasdm [0] (n=Mathias@78-22-5-158.access.telenet.be) 18.19.20 Join bluebrother [0] (n=dom@rockbox/staff/bluebrother) 18.19.44 Quit petur ("work->home") 18.22.37 Join nplus [0] (n=nplus@141.25.Globcom.Net) 18.23.34 Join pondlife [50] (n=Steve@rockbox/developer/pondlife) 18.24.01 # n1s: I never saw Open With in the WPS context menu... 18.24.24 # pondlife: i think it was gone before your patch 18.24.46 # Phew 18.24.57 Quit amiconn (Nick collision from services.) 18.25.00 # What did it do? Let you play the track again? 18.25.03 Join amiconn [50] (n=jens@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 18.25.53 Quit jasondazed ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 18.26.33 # open the regular open with menu for the current file allowing opening it with a viewer like splitedit, properties, etc 18.26.44 # i checked in your manual patch btw 18.27.48 # I saw, thanks 18.28.25 # * pondlife must get Cygwin building manuals again. 18.28.28 Quit Mathiasdm ("Yuuw!") 18.28.36 Join PaulJam__ [0] (i=PaulJam_@vpn-3063.gwdg.de) 18.28.41 Join Mathiasdm [0] (n=Mathias@78-22-5-158.access.telenet.be) 18.29.55 # pondlife: what did you do to it? 18.30.11 # Reinstalled Windows :/ 18.30.23 # ...and everything else. 18.30.27 Quit borges|afk_ (Connection reset by peer) 18.30.46 # Wish I'd taken notes on what I did now.. 18.31.43 # do you have all the packages (e.g. the unicode one too)? 18.33.07 Quit nplus (Remote closed the connection) 18.34.45 Join nplus [0] (n=nplus@141.25.Globcom.Net) 18.35.33 Join herrwaldo [0] (n=waldo@ip-81-11-201-218.dsl.scarlet.be) 18.35.47 Join parafin|away [0] (i=parafin@parafin.dialup.corbina.ru) 18.36.25 Quit parafin (Read error: 101 (Network is unreachable)) 18.37.46 # linuxstb: you're right. Sound needs to work eventually anyway 18.37.47 Quit csc` (Remote closed the connection) 18.38.31 Join nuonguy [0] (n=john@c-24-6-175-26.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) 18.41.59 Join miepchen^schlaf [0] (n=miepchen@p54BF7483.dip.t-dialin.net) 18.42.02 Quit linuxstb (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 18.43.56 Quit DaCapn () 18.44.04 Join linuxstb [0] (n=linuxstb@rockbox/developer/linuxstb) 18.44.17 Quit Mathiasdm ("Yuuw!") 18.45.14 Join Mathiasdm [0] (n=Mathias@78-22-5-158.access.telenet.be) 18.46.05 Quit PaulJam_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 18.48.31 Quit JdGordon|zzz (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 18.51.31 Join csc` [0] (n=csc@archlinux/user/csc) 18.53.18 Quit nplus (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 18.56.01 Join merl1 [0] (i=cz@ukato.freeshell.ORG) 18.56.18 Join BigBambi [0] (n=Alex@rockbox/staff/BigBambi) 18.56.45 # Is there any documentation for Rockbox's sourcecode ? 18.57.01 Join ali_as [0] (n=as@ambix.plus.com) 18.58.07 Quit mcuelenaere ("bye") 18.58.26 # merl1: Not really, although the Rockbox wiki has some documentation about various things. There's a "for developers" section. 19.00.01 Join shift_ [0] (n=shift@c211-28-56-74.frank1.vic.optusnet.com.au) 19.01.03 # hello.... I have just replaced some parts of my 2 ipod mini (both second gen)... then on both of them the scrollwheel, including action button stopped working. 19.01.14 # the thing is when I press the action button the ipod turns on 19.01.36 # and when I hold menu and action it reboots.... but withing rockbox or iPL loader... nothing =/ 19.02.05 # then one of them started working like new =/... would anyone know what might have 'caused it and how I could fix the other one? 19.02.46 Join bertrik [0] (n=bertrik@226-015-045-062.dynamic.caiway.nl) 19.02.55 # *caused 19.04.21 # can't get to diag or disk mode while booting either. =( 19.05.43 # ok... I guess that's a bit of a vague problem. 19.06.12 # Are there any new ports of rockbox being worked on which would support any new devices (that are still in production)? 19.06.38 Join Genre9mp3 [0] (n=yngwiejo@rockbox/contributor/Genre9mp3) 19.06.59 # There are several ports in progress, yes 19.07.58 # ok phew... 'cause I have been checking the site and haven't been able to see anything about new ports... so I felt a bit like rb was dying out =( 19.08.35 # It'll die with the heat death of the universe. :) 19.08.44 Quit parafin|away ("So long and thanks for all the fish") 19.08.46 Join parafin [0] (i=parafin@paraf.in) 19.09.23 # shift_: Take a look here: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/TargetStatus 19.09.33 # Have a look at http://daniel.haxx.se/blog/2008/05/09/more-fresh-rockbox-targets/ as well 19.10.40 # ah... all but dying =). 19.11.46 Part pondlife 19.11.53 # I really need a new mp3 player (whatever left of my ipod is going to die soon) and I have got quite attached to rockbox but haven't been able to find any targets still in production. 19.12.35 # Porting time seems to be longer than the market time these days 19.14.04 # are the ports being worked on in the svn tree? 19.15.26 # They are. 19.16.03 # But they're not 100% ready for release yet. 19.16.18 # Have a look at the build table: http://build.rockbox.org/dev.cgi 19.18.23 # thank you. 19.18.35 # it shows all builds that are currently in SVN, some of which do not show up on the current rockbox builds page 19.20.10 Join ap0 [0] (i=kvirc@nfb68-1-88-169-81-101.fbx.proxad.net) 19.22.31 Quit ap0 (Client Quit) 19.22.35 # hopefully i'll be able to write something usefull after i've done embedded programming next year =/ 19.22.56 Quit linuxstb (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 19.23.26 # or does it take more than a basic embedded programming uni course? 19.23.35 # Why not now ? I'd guess that most rockbox developers have never had an embedded programming course 19.23.39 # oh yes, I think embedded programming experience helps a lot with a project like rockbox 19.24.20 # not now 'cause the most i've done in assembly was "Hello world!" and didn't get much past pointers and linked lists in C. 19.24.42 # Rockbox is written primarily in C, with some assembly for platform-specific performance bits. 19.24.43 # * gevaerts is no good at assembly either 19.24.49 # Someone knows where is the id3 support files in rockbox's sourcecode ? 19.24.55 # shift_: The vast majority of rockbox is in plain C, not ASM 19.25.24 # Yeah, I am downloading the source now to have a look at how much of it I won't get. 19.26.54 # the wiki seems to have heaps of dev documentation as well =) 19.27.03 # The best way to get started is probably to find some bug that annoys you and fix it 19.27.08 Join mcuelenaere [0] (n=mcuelena@rockbox/developer/mcuelenaere) 19.27.27 # the battery life 19.27.34 # IMO writing a plugin is easier as a start. 19.27.52 # the nature of bugs usually makes them somewhat troublesome to catch ;-) 19.28.09 # * gevaerts wouldn't have picked battery life as the first thing to fix 19.28.17 # i have written 'plugins' before... I had a new text input thing for my ipod where it turned the scroll wheel into a mobile -phone style input. 19.28.38 # gevaerts: it's the only thing that annoys me. >.> 19.29.03 # poor battery life is not really a bug, it's more a lack of a feature :P 19.29.09 Quit DerPapst (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 19.29.30 # more lack of knowledge 19.29.31 # which takes up the most power, reading the disk, decoding the audio or... something else? 19.29.50 # "yes" :) 19.30.22 # * gevaerts isn't too familiar with power management actually 19.31.34 # I think it can vary a lot between players and I don't know of any systematic research into that 19.31.53 # AFAIK the backlight is a big consumer of power 19.32.11 # shift_: Are you talking about the iPods in general? 19.32.49 # LambdaCalculus37: Yeah... but especially my one. 19.32.52 # =) 19.33.22 Quit kennyj_ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 19.33.26 Join kennyj [0] (i=kennyj@kyogi.net) 19.33.32 # shift_: the minis? 19.33.37 Quit Arathis ("Bye, bye") 19.33.43 # yeah 19.34.23 # Well, I have a video and two 4th gens (grey and color). Out of those three, my video has the best battery life. 19.34.42 # I can get roughly 11 hours on it, while I get about 6-7 hours with the 4th gens. 19.34.57 # 11 hours =O 19.35.15 Quit merl1 ("merl1 has no reason") 19.35.22 # shift_: But not all of the iPods have the same battery life. 19.35.50 # is it possible to power off some elements completly (hd,display), right now? 19.36.03 Nick pabs_ is now known as pabs (n=pabs@xor.pablotron.org) 19.36.08 # shift_: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IpodPort 19.36.10 # shift_: they are 19.36.30 # shift_: The display takes bugger all compared to the backlight, which has a time out 19.36.53 # shift_: And the hard drive does power down (as far as I am aware on all targets) 19.37.04 # (*hard disk targets) 19.37.11 # The display on the iPods never really "turns off". 19.37.24 # LambdaCalculus37: But backlight does 19.37.34 # And the display is not very hungry 19.38.52 # BigBambi: That's the good part. :) 19.39.39 # shift_: If you really want to get another target with good battery life and hard drive space, why not consider a non-iPod target? 19.40.07 # shift_: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/BuyersGuide 19.40.23 # LambdaCalculus37: I did, I just couldn't find any of those on ebay and none of them are in production. 19.40.58 # shift_: Oh? The Gigabeat models turn up frequently on eBay. 19.41.12 # shift_: Where are you located? USA? Europe? 19.41.21 # Australia 19.41.31 # Ack! 19.41.48 # Why the 'Ack!'? 19.42.19 # * gevaerts assumes that LambdaCalculus37 has an innate fear of Australians 19.42.30 # * LambdaCalculus37 speaks to JdGordon, doesn't he? :) 19.42.44 # From a safe distance :) 19.42.48 # lol 19.42.51 # More like "Crap, can't do anything at this point" type of "ack". 19.43.07 # shift_: Try sellers that'll ship overseas. 19.45.33 # Might just go for one of the targets in development 19.45.39 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 19.46.36 # Try for a Gigabeat S. 19.46.42 # You'll love it. :) 19.46.52 # * LambdaCalculus37 proudly holds his up 19.47.01 # * bluebrother wonders if it's possible to get one at an affordable price 19.47.17 # bluebrother: they go cheaply on ebay periodically 19.47.35 # bluebrother: I think toffee said he missed a S60 for 62 USD the other day 19.48.20 # wow, that's cheap. ebay US? 19.48.22 # I'll just not worry about it for now and wait till the ipod is gone beyond repair. 19.48.27 # bluebrother: I assume so 19.48.47 # it's always this annoyance with shipping and possible taxes :( 19.49.43 # bluebrother: shipping is bugger all (12 usd or so via a friend), and even if you have to add taxes onto that, 20% is still only another 12 usd 19.50.24 # how safe is the rockboxdev.sh script? 19.50.31 # so call it 90 usd tops = 55 euros isn't too bad 19.50.36 # shift_: er, very? 19.50.49 # shift_: It just builds the cross compilers with the correct patches 19.51.46 # ok good enough for me.... was just asking incase it had a tendency to overwrite current compiler or important libs or whatnot. 19.52.12 # It only installs the cross compilers, it doesn't touch your native compiler 19.52.22 # in fact, it needs it to compile the cross compilers 19.52.47 # You can always change 'prefix="/usr/local"' to something else near the top 19.53.22 # * gevaerts thinks that rockboxdev.sh is perfectly safe. Nobody has uttered threats against it recently 19.53.26 # nuh nuh, I trust it... Just a bit cautious towards scripts. 19.53.43 # shift_: you can always read it and check first.... 19.55.11 # or run it inside of a chroot'ed environment 19.55.53 # bluebrother: I was about to, then figured instead of being paranoid... i'd just ask. 19.55.56 # BigBambi: done. 19.56.34 Quit shrizza () 19.56.49 # You mean ask the people who wrote it if they added backdoors ? 19.57.04 # * BigBambi keeps an eye on gevaerts making dodgy commits that adds rm -rf / to rockboxdev.sh 19.57.21 # * gevaerts hands shift_ a tutorial on safe paranoia 19.57.59 # heh 19.58.29 # how do you make a "ls"-tree in Linux? 19.58.58 # ls -R ? 19.59.10 # yes, but I want something prettier :) 19.59.25 # tree? 19.59.33 # some tree, which uses like the characters | and - 19.59.44 # like in dos, I believe it is called dirtree 19.59.59 # * bluebrother repeats: tree? 20.00.11 # tree - list contents of directories in a tree-like format. 20.00.44 # bluebrother: sorry, I didn't get it; but tree isn't available in the VMWare image :( 20.01.25 # mcuelenaere: hehe, saying that is quite a bit confusing 20.01.37 # :) 20.01.44 # http://mama.indstate.edu/users/ice/tree/ 20.01.58 # bluebrother: thanks 20.02.03 # at least according to my package manager 20.02.24 # apt-get in the current VMware image isn't really supportive.. 20.03.19 # yeah...i need to make a new image... 20.04.01 Quit kennyj (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 20.04.02 # * mcuelenaere really likes tree, just one .c file to compile :) 20.07.21 Join kennyj [0] (i=kennyj@kyogi.net) 20.09.45 Join linuxstb [0] (n=linuxstb@rockbox/developer/linuxstb) 20.11.16 Quit neddy (Remote closed the connection) 20.11.24 Quit nuonguy ("This computer has gone to sleep") 20.11.45 Join nuonguy [0] (n=john@c-24-6-175-26.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) 20.11.45 Quit nuonguy (Client Quit) 20.14.01 Join nplus [0] (n=npl@141.25.globcom.net) 20.20.48 Join PaulJam [0] (i=PaulJam_@vpn-3050.gwdg.de) 20.21.36 Quit Mathiasdm ("Yuuw!") 20.22.12 Join obo [0] (n=obo@rockbox/developer/obo) 20.23.59 Join kennyj_ [0] (i=kennyj@kyogi.net) 20.27.31 Nick fxb__ is now known as fxb (n=felixbru@h1252615.stratoserver.net) 20.27.36 Join Aeronth [0] (n=flyff@pingouin-kun.net1.nerim.net) 20.27.47 Quit XavierGr () 20.27.53 # Hello. 20.28.33 # hello. 20.29.58 # Hem, I got a little problem here : Win XP doesn't recognize my ipod mini while running Rockbox 20.30.18 # I searched on the forums but I didn't find any relevant answer 20.30.44 Join XavierGr [0] (n=xavier@rockbox/staff/XavierGr) 20.31.05 # That's because Rockbox doesn't have a completely working USB stack yet. 20.31.12 # does it reboot into usb mode? 20.31.36 # Itunes doesn't work. 20.31.46 # well, that doesn't tell anything. 20.32.02 # Hem, yes 20.32.11 # No it doesn't. 20.32.28 # Aeronth: Manually enter disk mode - http://www.ipodlinux.org/Key_Combinations or start the original Apple firmware before attaching USB. 20.33.48 Join bluebroth3r [0] (n=dom@rockbox/staff/bluebrother) 20.33.53 # does someone has a compiled version of flathdr ? (can be found in elf2flt package from µClinux) 20.33.56 # Wow, thank you very much. 20.34.20 Quit bluebrother (Nick collision from services.) 20.34.23 Nick bluebroth3r is now known as bluebrother (n=dom@rockbox/staff/bluebrother) 20.34.41 Quit XavierGr (Client Quit) 20.34.46 Quit kennyj (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 20.38.08 # Haha, that's it. I forgot to upload the .rockbox folder... 'works fine now, thanks again ! 20.38.56 Quit PaulJam__ (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 20.40.52 Quit dan_a (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 20.41.22 Quit simonrvn ("Reconnecting") 20.41.34 Join simonrvn [0] (i=simon@unaffiliated/simonrvn) 20.44.36 Join vort3x [0] (n=vortex@unaffiliated/dfa001) 20.47.35 Join hoh [0] (n=o7o@84.55.63.2) 20.48.57 # ui button behaviour question, sansa e260 here, if during playback i go into main menu/settings or something and press power button, both playback stops and it goes one level up, aint that confusing? 20.50.59 Quit Genre9mp3 () 20.51.04 Join SD[x] [0] (n=chatzill@65.169.200.113) 20.54.23 Quit SD[x] ("ChatZilla 0.9.82.1 [Firefox 2.0.0.14/2008040413]") 20.55.18 # gah... I keep fiddling with it, but the scrollwheel doesn't work... would anyone have any possible explanations why i can turn the ipod and and reset it using the scrollwheel, but not anything else? 20.56.14 # Did you check the ribbon cable for the scroll wheel and make sure it's properly seated on the board? 20.56.37 # 'tis 20.57.21 # hoh, that is normal with the keymap that is on the e200 series 20.57.23 # it might be damaged somewhere though... but then why would the same buttons that switch it on not work once (and while) loading. 20.57.24 Join spiorf [0] (n=spiorf@host126-226-dynamic.25-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) 20.58.40 # shift_: You're in luck... http://www.ifixit.com 20.58.50 # They sell parts for iPods, and ship overseas. 20.59.43 # I am not =(. the scrollwheel from the other ipod doesn't work on this one either 20.59.59 # mother board damaged? O_o 21.00.07 # Perhaps. 21.00.31 # advcomp2019: but why is it so confusing? inside system and plugins it just goes one level up and stops playback when the parent is the main menu 21.00.42 # otherwise it doesnt 21.00.46 # in settings it always stops 21.04.38 # are you comparing it to OF then? 21.05.26 # no, im saying its incosistent 21.05.33 # inconsistent* 21.08.40 Join Mathiasdm [0] (n=Mathias@78-22-5-158.access.telenet.be) 21.14.27 # it is not a bad deal with me 21.17.15 Quit TaylorKillian (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 21.17.23 Quit Thundercloud (Remote closed the connection) 21.22.15 Quit hoh ("Ex-Chat") 21.22.23 Quit desowin ("KVIrc 4.0.0 Insomnia http://www.kvirc.net/") 21.22.53 Join desowin [0] (n=desowin@atheme/member/desowin) 21.26.09 # does speex only use .spx as an extension, or are there variations? 21.26.33 Join petur [50] (n=petur@rockbox/developer/petur) 21.26.39 # BigBambi: Just .spx AFAIK. 21.26.44 # cheers 21.27.10 # * LambdaCalculus37 goes to consult with the Great God of All Knowing, Wikipedia 21.27.32 # I was right... .spx only. 21.27.41 # coolio 21.28.06 # * gevaerts prepares a counterexample 21.29.58 # uh-uh ... found a bad thing(tm) in rbutil :o 21.30.20 # * BigBambi is updating the stats plugin with mising audio types, and elso adding videos and images to the stats - do people think things like sid and mod should go in with music, or in a separate category? 21.30.35 # Music. 21.30.42 # me too 21.30.43 # it allows patching a h300 hex even when the device is h100. 21.30.59 # bluebrother: Uh oh, not good! 21.31.38 # And for images, jpg and jpeg only, or add in bmp for the targets that have rockpaint? 21.31.42 # it even produced a new hex file. Let's hope people are cautious enough until bootloader rework is finished 21.32.13 # bluebrother: will the OF not reject it? 21.32.23 # BigBambi: no idea. 21.32.32 # * BigBambi isn't willing to try :) 21.32.32 # I'd rather not try it ;-) 21.32.49 # besides, my h120 doesn't have the OF anymore anyways 21.32.55 # mine neither 21.33.14 # but rbutil should reject that. At least checksumming after patching should. 21.33.23 # How does a JTAG work? 21.33.38 # BigBambi: bmp is opened by a viewer plugin (rockpaint), is it not? 21.33.51 # bluebrother: yes, it certainly should - I was just thinking in the meantime 21.34.05 # LambdaCalculus37: yes, which is why I wasn't sure whether to include it 21.34.34 # TheGazR: depends. JTAG itself is only the hardware interface -- check for IEEE 1149.1 21.34.38 # TheGazR: Wikipedia's got a good article with links on it: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JTAG 21.35.12 # usually the term refers to a debugger (as those usually use the JTAG interface), but the protocol on top of it is hardware dependent 21.35.16 Quit spiorf (Remote closed the connection) 21.35.50 # Ok, looks like it's my only hope of reviving this device, so :( 21.36.38 # * bluebrother wonders what target TheGazR is talking about 21.36.57 # I bricked my mp3 player earlier, I need to get the bin file in the flash memory again :( 21.37.42 # TheGazR: are you sure JTAG is the only way? 21.38.10 # * bluebrother still wonders ... 21.38.20 # Well, I've been in a lengthy discussion with Mcuelenaere, and we're not sure 21.38.41 # TheGazR: if it ain't possible to access the flash directly through JTAG, it should be possible to put code in SDRAM AFAIK (which could flash the chip) 21.38.51 # TheGazR: do you have a JTAG adapter and a connector on your target? 21.38.51 Quit n1s () 21.39.07 # Neither, I was just curious 21.39.54 # TheGazR: http://mediagate.pbwiki.com/MG35Hardware -> scroll to JTAG header J7; does the picture looks a bit like your board? 21.39.56 # I'm not that familiar with JTAG, but I was under the impression that most flashes didn't have a TAP, so usually you use the boundary scan chain of the processor connected to the flash to talk to the flash 21.40.39 # it's a very tricky procedure and probably require custom software 21.42.10 # bluebrother: new port, see yesterday's logs 21.42.46 # pixelma: the GoGear? 21.43.10 # Mcuelenaere: No 21.43.32 # I think I just don't want to accept the fact that I utterly screwed my device :( 21.44.25 # TheGazR: perhaps there's a possibility you could access the device through serial 21.44.32 # see http://mediagate.pbwiki.com/Debricking 21.44.57 Join XavierGr [0] (n=xavier@rockbox/staff/XavierGr) 21.45.16 # no, the AngoraVX435, there's a wiki page about it 21.45.27 # ^ bluebrother 21.45.42 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 21.46.19 # "EM85xx Bootloader v1.0.0 (Nov 14 2006 16:29:33)" is in the firmware 21.46.47 # so if you could find some serial pins (and with a bit of luck) you can debrick your fw using the method described on the URL I gave you above 21.48.18 # never heard of that 21.49.04 Quit nplus (Remote closed the connection) 21.51.48 # :'( :P 21.51.53 # TheGazR: can you (again) open up your player and search for a 10pin or 6pin serial? 21.52.06 # a bit like at http://mediagate.pbwiki.com/MG35Hardware#SerialheaderJ9 21.52.06 # yeah 21.52.24 # there should somewhere be one 21.52.30 # or do you have some kind of dock? 21.52.40 # I couldn't see anything like that 21.52.42 # before 21.53.09 # taking apart now 21.53.50 Quit _w0rd54 (Remote closed the connection) 21.55.02 Join parafin|away [0] (i=parafin@parafin.dialup.corbina.ru) 21.55.15 Join nedd1 [0] (n=john@nat/sun/x-d63340955b314c03) 21.55.19 Quit parafin (Nick collision from services.) 21.55.24 Nick parafin|away is now known as parafin (i=parafin@parafin.dialup.corbina.ru) 21.57.03 # No, there isn't anything 21.57.17 # does HAVE_LCD_BITMAP include only targets that are both SWCODEC and have LCD_SSD1815? i.e. of the HWCODEC targets are all those that don't have LCD_SSD1815 charcell? 21.57.59 # TheGazR: no mention of "D" (with the quotes) ? 21.58.04 # near the EM85xx chip 21.58.20 Quit LambdaCalculus37 ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") 21.58.50 # BigBambi: I think so. Why? 21.59.15 Join w0rd54 [0] (i=blackdev@100mbit.top-site.us) 21.59.22 # No, I can't see anywhere 21.59.26 Join Xqtftqx [0] (i=4cbd06f4@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-40d173765d706112) 21.59.56 # TheGazR: you can't see any pads? 22.00.13 # BigBambi: Also, I thought Speex was in an Ogg container, hence .ogg would be valid. IIRC, Rockbox will play .ogg files containing Speex. 22.00.14 # linuxstb: I'm trying to check for targets that have some form of video playback (either mpg or rvf). As mpeg player is built for al swcodec, and rvf for LCD_SSD1815, it would be easier to just check for LCD_BITMAP instead if it did the same job 22.00.19 # Guys is it possible for line in recording on the beast? 22.01.00 # At the bottom of the board there are 5 circles in a |-| sort of shape 22.01.21 # ;-; 22.01.23 # if you like 22.01.25 # back or front? 22.01.28 # back 22.01.28 # Can't you just take a photo or make a scan of the PCB and post a link? 22.01.41 # There are photos up I think :S 22.01.53 # BigBambi: Yes, that check is now (or soon will be) wrong - the m200 and Logik DAX are swcodec and have the LCD_SSD1815 22.02.13 # linuxstb: OK - for the speex thing I'm just adding missing extensions to the stats plugin, so ogg is already there (albeit for vorbis or speex) 22.02.14 # TheGazR: you made a scan yourself, didn't you? 22.02.16 # BigBambi: All swcodec targets have (or can have) mpegplayer, and are also bitmapped 22.02.26 # Does anybody know if line in recording is possible on the beast? 22.02.30 # All bitmapped hwcodec targets have video.rock 22.02.37 # Yeah, they didn't come out very well though 22.02.41 # * preglow wonders how mpegplayer looks on c200 22.02.42 # The best one I took is 22.02.57 # BigBambi: .ogg isn't the only example. e.g. .m4a and .mp4 can both be either AAC or ALAC 22.03.15 # linuxstb: will the m200 and DAX have either video.rock or mpegplayer? 22.03.34 # linuxstb: yep, just so long as all the extensions are there - it is just for a total count of music files 22.03.51 # http://gazr88.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/DSC00047.JPG 22.03.53 # BigBambi: I'd expect mpegplayer 22.03.59 # amiconn: thanks 22.04.13 # Could that be it (Next to the button) 22.04.24 Join einhirn_ [0] (n=Miranda@p5B032674.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 22.04.32 # TheGazR, i think by the buttons 22.04.47 # bertrik: http://godevelopments.net/rockbox/images/e235_board_front.jpg & http://godevelopments.net/rockbox/images/e235_board_back.jpg 22.05.03 # They're powerful enough to decode mpeg video, and mpeg video will achieve lower bitrates than rvf 22.05.21 # at the edge of the board 22.05.24 # amiconn, linuxstb: So for having any form of video playback, I'm save with LCD_BITMAP, but LCD_SSD1815 will soon not be a good check for rvf? 22.05.26 # I count six of them 22.05.27 # The greylib (or a greylib-like technique) are needed for both 22.05.29 # s/save/safe/ 22.05.51 # I count six too 22.06.00 # BigBambi: Check for hwcodec *and* LCD_BITMAP - that means video.rock 22.06.07 # only 5 are required for JTAG, right? 22.06.08 # it has the text: 1S behind it 22.06.09 # amiconn: OK, thanks 22.06.14 # Likewise, swcodec *and* LCD_BITMAP means mpegplayer 22.06.24 # 1S3* 22.06.35 # amiconn: great, thanks very much 22.07.18 # TheGazR: now the fun part starts: try figuring out which is which :) 22.07.53 # preglow: mpegplayer looks ok on the c200, better than expected even though the display itself is not the best 22.08.05 # TheGazR: could you follow the traces of those pads and look where they end? 22.08.15 # I could try 22.08.31 # A magifying glass would be most useful right now 22.08.49 # maybe IS2 is the serial port? 22.09.02 # preglow: On c200, mpegplayer has definitely no framerate problem wrt decoding, and the lcd controller is also fast enough to handle smooth playback at that resolution, even though the LCD1 bridge is way slower than the LCD2 bridge 22.09.11 # (top left, on the back of the board) 22.09.26 Quit Xqtftqx ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") 22.09.37 # preglow: it's just "widescreen" ;) 22.09.40 # bertrik: you mean above the power connector? 22.09.44 # That's the power connector 22.09.51 Join courtc [0] (n=court@c-24-99-230-218.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) 22.10.22 # there are 4 of them.. 22.10.53 # and serial needs 4, doesn't it? 22.11.24 # just 3 I would guess, GND, RX, TX 22.11.56 # http://mediagate.pbwiki.com/MG35Hardware#SerialheaderJ9 -> on the picture I see GND, TXD, RXD & VCC 22.14.13 # On the back it's the power connector 22.14.39 # above it 22.15.05 # from the looks of it it's where the power connector is soldered in 22.15.21 Join fml [0] (n=4fd3cfc4@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-00bb8bacae202b6d) 22.15.46 # ah yes of course :) 22.16.10 # I think there's two possibilities 22.16.16 # Where we first looked 22.16.22 # 1s3 22.16.49 # and if you look on this picture: http://godevelopments.net/rockbox/images/e235_board_front.jpg 22.17.03 # If you look bottom left, you can see where it loooks like a connector should go 22.17.18 # Hello. I think 'Open with...' in the wps context menu makes no sense 22.17.26 # TheGazR: that's a lot of connections.. :) 22.17.34 # Yeah 22.17.51 # So I'm thinking it's 1s3 :S 22.17.59 # 90% of the entries can'r cape with music files 22.18.07 # where is the power connector? 22.18.23 # On the back 22.18.55 Quit bughunter2 ("bye") 22.19.32 # 1J1? 8J6? 22.20.48 # and what about those big pads on the back, in the middle left? 22.21.20 # That's what I was refering to earlier 22.21.30 # ah ok 22.21.31 # Bertrik: 8j6 22.22.02 # And 1s2 is the battery connector 22.22.02 Quit fml ("CGI:IRC") 22.23.04 # the player has 2 line out? or a line in and out? 22.23.36 # ok, in that case I think 1s3 is the prime suspect for either a serial or jtag port 22.23.53 # I guess JTAG 22.25.12 # A/v Out (For connecting to a TV) and a Y/U/V Out 22.25.13 Quit mcuelenaere (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 22.25.39 Join Daishi [0] (n=daishi@ool-18be2452.dyn.optonline.net) 22.29.12 Join mcuelenaere [0] (n=mcuelena@rockbox/developer/mcuelenaere) 22.29.42 # Welcome Back 22.36.34 Join MethoS_ [0] (n=clemens@pD955E5DF.dip.t-dialin.net) 22.38.02 Quit desowin ("KVIrc 4.0.0 Insomnia http://www.kvirc.net/") 22.40.13 Join matsl [0] (n=matsl@1-1-4-2a.mal.sth.bostream.se) 22.40.27 Join mcuelenaere_ [0] (n=mcuelena@rockbox/developer/mcuelenaere) 22.40.28 Quit mcuelenaere_ (Remote closed the connection) 22.40.35 Quit mcuelenaere (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 22.40.46 Join mcuelenaere [0] (n=mcuelena@rockbox/developer/mcuelenaere) 22.40.52 Quit mcuelenaere (Remote closed the connection) 22.41.00 Join mcuelenaere [0] (n=mcuelena@rockbox/developer/mcuelenaere) 22.41.11 # * mcuelenaere has trouble connecting 22.42.41 # domonoky: why isn't iriver bootloader installation reusing the code from tools/iriver.c? It looks being mostly duplicated to me 22.43.26 Join jgarvey [0] (n=jgarvey@cpe-024-163-032-204.nc.res.rr.com) 22.43.33 # oh, its a long time since i built this... i have to check the source.. :-) 22.43.38 Quit matsl (Remote closed the connection) 22.43.40 Join linuxstb_ [0] (n=linuxstb@rockbox/developer/linuxstb) 22.44.10 # well, as I want to minimize dependencies upon the GUI during bootloader rework I'll most likely change that. 22.44.26 # requires some small changes to iriver.c too, but that shouldn't be a real issue 22.45.11 Join matsl [0] (n=matsl@1-1-4-2a.mal.sth.bostream.se) 22.45.46 Quit matsl (Remote closed the connection) 22.48.08 Join toffe82 [0] (n=chatzill@h-74-0-180-178.snvacaid.covad.net) 22.48.46 Join matsl [0] (n=matsl@1-1-4-2a.mal.sth.bostream.se) 22.49.10 Join homielowe [0] (n=eric_j_l@d205-250-152-29.bchsia.telus.net) 22.49.26 Quit courtc ("Lost terminal") 22.49.55 # bluebrother: i cant find where it uses iriver.c, it seem i rebuilt everything of iriver.c in irivertool.h/cpp 22.50.21 Quit MethoS- (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 22.51.13 # * domonoky read it the wrong way... i probably rebuilt it completly, because of the outputs... 22.53.35 Quit linuxstb (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 22.54.52 # yeah ... but I want to minimize dependencies on the gui logger ;-) 22.55.18 # anyway, do you / we have broken firmware files around to trigger the error checks in irivertools.cpp? 22.57.42 Quit bertrik ("reboot") 22.58.46 # pixelma: very widescreen, i'd imagine :P 22.59.08 # yes aspect ratio wise :P 22.59.44 Quit einhirn_ (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 23.00.34 Join bertrik [0] (n=bertrik@226-015-045-062.dynamic.caiway.nl) 23.02.48 Join AndyIL [0] (n=pasha_in@81.89.116.225) 23.10.08 # anyone familiar with scramble.c / iriver.c around? 23.13.02 Quit AndyI (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 23.13.27 Quit petur ("*plop*") 23.15.17 Quit Aeronth (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 23.15.18 Join sitwon [0] (n=adam@static-71-166-233-112.washdc.east.verizon.net) 23.15.28 # join #apache 23.15.38 Quit bertrik ("Ex-Chat") 23.15.40 # sorry 23.15.54 Quit mcuelenaere () 23.16.38 Quit Mathiasdm ("Yuuw!") 23.21.34 Quit vort3x ("Leaving") 23.21.56 Join vort3x [0] (n=vortex@unaffiliated/dfa001) 23.26.11 Quit Horscht ("http://www.geisterfahrer.org") 23.29.17 Quit sitwon ("Leaving") 23.33.35 Nick [1]ender is now known as ender` (i=krneki@foo.eternallybored.org) 23.40.13 # eh... a missing space behind the " leads to weird result :\ 23.40.52 # when committing... 23.42.22 Join sbk [0] (i=kbs@205.209.190.117) 23.42.30 # pixelma: I bet the first file after that wasn't committed 23.42.47 # yes, but it is in the commit message 23.43.09 # that behaviour is quite explainable (and logic) 23.45.34 # still annoying ;) 23.45.45 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 23.45.45 # Is there some magic way to get my sansa express to connect in MSC mode? I'm using linux, and I've been a happy rockbox user on the express for several months. However, now when I connect it, the battery charging indicator comes on, but it stays disconnected. No messages show up in kern.log. The sansa is still set to connect in MSC mode 23.46.26 # sbk: Where did you get a version of Rockbox for the Sansa Express? 23.46.50 # from rockbox.the system still comes up, let me get a version number out of it... 23.46.59 # I updated it maybe a couple of weeks back 23.47.01 # sbk: do you perhaps mean an e200? 23.47.07 # pixelma: just let svn invoke a simple editor ;-) 23.47.10 # pixelma: yes, indeed 23.47.17 # sbk: The e200 is not the express. 23.47.22 # my mistake, apologies 23.47.25 Quit itcheg (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 23.47.37 # bluebrother: is that possible in cygwin? 23.47.52 # sbk: Just follow the instructions to boot it into the original firmware when you need USB access 23.48.14 # sure ... I just think you're restricted to a simple text-only editor. But I don't see why one would need a GUI editor for typing the commit message ;-) 23.48.39 # I'm pretty sure it just runs Nano if available. 23.49.08 # Llorean: by original firmware, do you mean the sansa-delivered os/etc? I've updated the bootloader itself of course, and I'm able to boot into the original sansa user interface etc 23.49.12 # sbk: do you have a microSD inserted? This sometimes happens to me with my c200 23.49.16 # sbk: Yes. 23.49.19 # you can set the editor executable in ~/.subversion/config. Check for editor-cmd 23.49.23 # pixelma: no -- no microsd 23.49.44 # and if that isn't set $EDITOR is used 23.49.56 Join Horscht [0] (n=Horscht@xbmc/user/horscht) 23.49.59 # Llorean: got it. Im currently indeed in the sansa os -- but it's unable to connect via USB 23.50.17 # nano might be a nice editor for this task to try. 23.50.28 # fwiw, the sansa version is 01.01.00P 23.53.47 # bluebrother: I could also just have hit enter without specifying the files (no other changes in my wps dir)... ;\ 23.53.57 Join linuxstb__ [0] (n=linuxstb@i-83-67-212-170.freedom2surf.net) 23.54.32 Quit davina (Remote closed the connection) 23.56.39 # oh well... commit_count ++ :P 23.57.28 # * preglow feels we can remove some of the bundled wpses 23.57.39 # like boxes, i don't believe too many people use it