--- Log for 23.05.108 Server: leguin.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: @logbot_ Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 20 days and 10 hours ago 00.00.14 # preglow: now you tell me after I spend a lot of time keeping them all up to date (bitmap strips etc.) 00.00.51 # *spent 00.00.53 # pixelma: time well spent anyway, if you ask me :) 00.00.57 # we could simply rename the fonts package to "extras" (or similar) and put all themes into it except for Cabbie. Maybe iCatcher. 00.01.05 # i don't think they'll be used less if they're not in the main zip 00.01.37 # it's not like i'm dictating the future anyway, it's just my opinion 00.02.34 # btw. all needed fonts for the shipped themes are included 00.02.36 Join AndyI [0] (n=pasha_in@212.14.205.32) 00.03.02 # ah, ok. I thought only the font for Cabbie is in. 00.05.04 # the 160x128 display targets include the most themes and e.g. an H120 zip comes with 3 fonts 00.05.05 # I wouldn't mind seeing a "themes" extras, where a selection of themes (more than we have now) are kept in SVN, *attempted* to be kept up to date (insofar as we accept bug reports on them if a commit breaks them) and are available as daily-built extras packages somehow, while only the default and maybe some "alternate default" (a theme that has a version for all targets) are included standard. 00.05.38 Quit linuxstb_ (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 00.06.48 Quit jgarvey ("Leaving") 00.07.11 # Of course, if the theme site runs a regular (daily? weekly?) checkwps, and rbutil scrapes it and has an "update" option to fill in missing or changed themes, an "extras" package is unnecessary. 00.07.21 Quit tvelocity ("Αποχώρησε") 00.09.19 Join Didder [0] (n=43b7e47f@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-70a5ea703048d861) 00.09.28 Quit bluebrother ("time for sleep") 00.09.39 # Can anybody help me with my Gigabeat F40? :3 00.10.24 # It refuses to play video, it just gives me a checksum error on a baby-blue background and refuses to start up until I reinstall Rockbox. :/ 00.10.31 Quit matsl ("Riece/3.1.2 XEmacs/21.5-b28 (fuki, linux)") 00.10.50 # (With MPeg Viewer; I used WinFF to convert them to Gigabeat F/X format for Rockbox) 00.10.58 Join Thundercloud [0] (n=thunderc@resnet16.nat.lancs.ac.uk) 00.11.06 # Ugh, I might just have to go back to my Nintendo DS for videos. >_> 00.11.36 # * Didder whistles. 00.12.14 Join Zarggg [0] (n=z@216-15-73-111.c3-0.eas-ubr6.atw-eas.pa.cable.rcn.com) 00.12.33 Join XQTFTQX [0] (i=40e9e3d2@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-73c47c888d9059b6) 00.13.25 # Guys, as i asked before, is it possible for the beast to record line in? 00.14.56 Quit ender` (" In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move.") 00.15.19 # the beast? 00.17.09 # better then a theme zip would be the new rockbox theme site up and running.. *hint at linuxstb__ * :-) 00.17.33 # Didder: gigabeast s 00.17.35 # gigabeat s... 00.17.43 # i suppose gigabeat f is a gigabeaft 00.17.44 # F series. 00.17.47 # gigabeast with a lisp :P 00.17.49 Quit csc` (Remote closed the connection) 00.17.49 # lol... 00.17.53 # GIGABEAST 00.18.42 # But yeah, when I ran an mpeg this morning, it immediately gave me the bad checksum boot error and I had to reinstall rockbox 00.18.44 # Ok, let me rephrase, on the gigabeat S, is it possible to add line in recording 00.21.28 Join jhulst [0] (n=jhulst@unaffiliated/jhulst) 00.22.32 # XQTFTQX, probably through the dock connector, but the relevant pins would have to be found first. 00.24.29 Quit AndyI (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00.24.42 Quit AndyIL (Connection timed out) 00.27.35 # krazykit: Okay, but isn't that line OUT? 00.27.42 # Im talking about the Gigabeat S! No F or X, theres no dock for the S 00.27.59 # but there is the connector 00.28.31 # What connector... 00.28.48 # 40 pins dock connector, the same you can find on the F 00.29.11 # Ok, but im asking is it possible via the headphone slot 00.29.22 Join pixelma_ [50] (i=pixelma@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 00.29.58 # XQTFTQX, i seriously doubt it. 00.30.00 # no 00.30.22 Quit pixelma (Nick collision from services.) 00.30.22 Nick pixelma_ is now known as pixelma (i=pixelma@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 00.30.26 # Why? 00.30.35 # no input 00.30.59 # for that, just a gpio for the remote 00.31.19 # Hmmm.... How is it possible with the ipod in ipod linux? 00.31.30 # not the same hardware 00.31.45 # Alright... 00.33.19 # the ipod as a line input on the headphone jack ? 00.33.38 # no...dock connector 00.34.09 # * domonoky thinks some ipods can record via the headphone socket.. 00.34.31 Join AndyI [0] (n=pasha_in@81.89.116.70) 00.34.49 # yar...not the new 5g and nano though 00.35.20 # * scorche|sh is just confusing people and goes back to work 00.35.31 # Well, im gonna see if i can do any work on the radio 00.35.46 # get it to work, or at least, somewhat work 00.43.44 Quit jhulst ("Konversation terminated!") 00.44.21 Quit domonoky (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 00.46.05 # Is it best to buy or to make your own Jtag? 00.48.23 Join AndyIL [0] (n=pasha_in@212.14.205.32) 00.49.27 Join bluefaith [0] (n=chatzill@81-208-60-196.ip.fastwebnet.it) 00.49.32 # Hello 00.50.00 # Is Rockbox known to work with the 3g Nano family models? 00.50.39 # no, as the front page states 00.50.54 # A bit strange... 00.51.09 # There is this model on the current build download page... 00.51.20 # that's the 3rd gen ipod, not the nano 00.51.26 Quit Didder ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 00.51.43 # Let me check ... 00.52.37 Quit XQTFTQX ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") 00.53.04 # Can you make it clear to me what does "G" stands for in a model name? 00.53.18 # generation 00.54.05 # So rockbox can't support the 3g models then? 00.54.27 # we support the 3rd generation ipods...we do not support the 3rd generation ipod nanos 00.54.59 Join Shaid [0] (n=adam@dsl-202-45-112-116-static.VIC.netspace.net.au) 00.55.04 # I'm a bit confused about all that "naming"... 00.55.27 # How Can I find precisely out what's my model is? 00.56.25 Quit obo ("bye") 00.56.54 # bluefaith, http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1353 00.57.02 # thank you 00.58.54 # Mine is nano 3g 00.59.03 # What a pitty :( 00.59.29 # There is such a nice girl I want to make this gift to :).... 01.00.06 # and she promised to go for dinner with me if I did .... 01.00.17 Quit gregzx ("ChatZilla 0.9.82.1 [Firefox 2.0.0.14/2008040413]") 01.00.28 # Then I failed straight on the battlefield...eh 01.01.11 Quit Nico_P (Remote closed the connection) 01.01.24 # 1) that is offtopic 2) that is a very bad deal 3) for the money you paid for that, you could get a much nicer "experience" with a "working woman" 01.02.29 # scorche What's you mean by "working woman" ...? 01.04.14 Quit DerDome ("Leaving.") 01.04.22 # She's going to end up crying in my arms - Which is not the worst thing...hmmm 01.04.56 Quit herrwaldo ("Konversation terminated!") 01.10.48 Nick fxb is now known as fxb__ (n=felixbru@h1252615.stratoserver.net) 01.13.15 Quit XavierGr (Nick collision from services.) 01.13.26 Join XavierGr [0] (n=xavier@rockbox/staff/XavierGr) 01.15.17 Quit XavierGr (Nick collision from services.) 01.15.28 Join XavierGr [0] (n=xavier@rockbox/staff/XavierGr) 01.15.45 Quit AndyI (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 01.16.02 Join AndyI [0] (n=pasha_in@81.89.116.178) 01.16.11 Quit Daishi (Remote closed the connection) 01.18.14 Quit XavierGr (Client Quit) 01.18.38 Quit dabujo ("( www.nnscript.com :: NoNameScript 4.2 :: www.regroup-esports.com )") 01.20.15 Join DerPapst [0] (n=Der_Paps@p4FC23034.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 01.24.00 Quit AndyIL (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 01.24.28 Part bluefaith 01.24.48 Join saratoga [0] (n=9803c6dd@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-01decc1c5ef74b4e) 01.25.11 Quit HellDragon (Client Quit) 01.25.21 # the WIN32 define in the Sim is just left over from the old win32 sim right? 01.27.53 Join HellDragon [0] (i=jd@unaffiliated/helldragon) 01.32.59 Join AndyIL [0] (n=pasha_in@212.14.205.32) 01.33.01 Quit moos ("Rockbox rules the DAP world") 01.36.17 Quit PaulJam (".") 01.37.32 Join mib_gcxzat [0] (i=826c116f@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-e2a04458032ef1bc) 01.38.24 # hey, i have a question about the gigabeat boot process, can you tell me if the following is correct? 01.39.19 # on power on the toshiba bootloader starts, then it executes fwimg01.dat, which loads the kernel (rockbox.gigabeat)? 01.40.56 # is /.rockbox/rockbox.gigabeat the kernel? 01.43.45 # i think it contains most of rockbox except the codecs and plugins if thats what you mean 01.44.19 Join DaCapn [0] (n=dacapn@c-67-170-177-22.hsd1.or.comcast.net) 01.44.47 Part toffe82 01.45.48 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 01.46.41 Quit AndyI (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 01.46.54 Join AndyI [0] (n=pasha_in@81.89.116.124) 01.47.33 Join jhulst [0] (n=jhulst@unaffiliated/jhulst) 01.51.47 # saratoga: alright, thats what i figures 01.51.51 # figured* 01.54.10 Join webguest39 [0] (n=4aaa3bc7@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-17da403ed4ff5f8d) 01.56.24 Quit AndyIL (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 01.56.42 Quit Llorean (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 01.57.46 Quit DerPapst (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 01.58.03 # Hi all. two weird things, before typing with the web client I noticed there was a command for a log bot? Two I tried to reply to a message from seritoga on the forums(sorry if I spelled it wrong) and it says I am not aloud to send private messages. Does my account have to be verified or somethig? 01.58.28 Join mackes [0] (n=root@cpe-24-198-43-238.buffalo.res.rr.com) 02.00.57 Join XQTFTQX [0] (i=40e9e3d2@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-587f6bb3a77d6a86) 02.01.08 Join Llorean [0] (n=DarkkOne@adsl-69-154-187-90.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net) 02.01.50 # Guys im having trouble adding some patchs, i get "patch installed correctly" or whatever, and i go to run whatever it edited and i get "Unable to load .rockbox/rocks/apps/*" 02.02.39 # XQTFTQX: Have you followed all the instructions in SimpleGuideToCompiling? 02.02.50 # Yep 02.03.12 Join buddelwilly [0] (n=buddelwi@catv-139-148.tbwil.ch) 02.03.17 # Well, there's a significant step between patching the file, and running the file, that you haven't mentioned. 02.03.26 # Does it build without errors and warnings? 02.03.31 # no errors 02.03.49 # And do you do "make zip"? 02.03.55 # yes 02.04.02 # Then, what is the exact error message you're getting. 02.04.23 Part buddelwilly 02.04.37 # yes 02.04.57 # whoops sorry, hold on a sex 02.05.01 # sec* 02.07.47 # "In compatible version" on my player and "Unable to load" in the simulator 02.08.39 Quit AndyI (Remote closed the connection) 02.09.01 Join AndyI [0] (n=pasha_in@81.89.116.124) 02.15.32 Quit jhulst ("Konversation terminated!") 02.18.23 Quit mib_gcxzat ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") 02.19.53 # webguest39: I think you need to have at least one post in the forums 02.20.09 # however, since I am here, you can just ask me without sending a message 02.22.36 Join Daishi [0] (n=daishi@ool-18be2452.dyn.optonline.net) 02.24.26 # seritoga: Ah, I already posted though, I am Big D. Wanted to apologize for my post, i was trying to suggest something and didn't consider it speculation Since the gigabeat s requires a format acording to another irc user. 02.27.21 # webguest39: you don't need to apoligize, i delete at least 1 or 2 posts a day from the new ports forum 02.27.39 Quit XQTFTQX ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") 02.28.19 # ah right. I'm off the IRC chanel then, I more prefer th eforum. Bye all 02.28.40 Quit webguest39 ("CGI:IRC") 02.28.40 Join kushal_12_27_200 [0] (n=kushal@c-67-173-249-88.hsd1.co.comcast.net) 02.30.43 Join ctaylorr [0] (n=ctaylorr@bas1-toronto43-1279529390.dsl.bell.ca) 02.31.14 Join ali_as_ [0] (n=as@ambix.plus.com) 02.35.08 Join toffe82 [0] (n=chatzill@ppp-71-130-76-52.dsl.frs2ca.pacbell.net) 02.37.24 Join fdinel [0] (n=Miranda@modemcable097.232-203-24.mc.videotron.ca) 02.39.17 Join cool_walking_ [0] (n=notroot@203-59-129-195.perm.iinet.net.au) 02.47.26 Quit Thundercloud (Remote closed the connection) 02.48.44 Join JdGordon|zzz [0] (i=jonno@c210-49-157-20.smelb1.vic.optusnet.com.au) 02.49.03 Nick JdGordon|zzz is now known as JdGordon (i=jonno@rockbox/developer/JdGordon) 02.58.58 Quit ali_as (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 02.59.35 Quit ctaylorr (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 03.02.14 Join Kornfan71 [0] (n=chatzill@cpe-24-210-150-61.woh.res.rr.com) 03.07.15 # Anyone know if scorche is on? 03.07.50 Join mib_qpxm7e [0] (i=826c116f@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-161e14179ddc8bab) 03.11.47 Part Kornfan71 03.15.03 Join ctaylorr [0] (n=ctaylorr@bas1-toronto43-1279529390.dsl.bell.ca) 03.19.38 Quit nedd1 ("Leaving.") 03.21.05 Quit BigBambi (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 03.21.42 Join BigBambi [0] (n=Alex@rockbox/staff/BigBambi) 03.28.38 Join jhulst [0] (n=jhulst@unaffiliated/jhulst) 03.36.22 # i dont suppose there are any wps ninjas around? 03.40.08 # if there are any sansa c200 ninjas around, I'd be very grateful :-) 03.40.41 # it looks like my c200 is unable to turn into a MSC device visible to my linux machine 03.41.00 # i've tried the usual "hold/rec + connect" trick to no avail 03.41.19 # a status line shows up saynig that the device apparently believes it's in MSC mode now 03.41.29 # says Mini-B->Device Mode 03.41.31 # JdGordon: i'm trying to setup an SDL target in tools/configure 03.42.07 # do you know where the gcc stuff is setup for the sim builds normally? 03.42.35 Quit sbk ("leaving") 03.42.50 # i'm not sure what to use for the GCCOPTS, etc 03.44.33 # oh theres a simcc() function for it 03.44.35 # nevermind 03.45.49 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 03.48.15 Part pixelma 03.49.43 # saratoga: hey, did you see that snippet in irc i linked you to during the week? 03.53.46 # JdGordon: yes, I've been working on implementing that idea 03.54.15 # cool :) 03.54.38 # i've looked at SDL, and for video and events, it seems remarkably simple 03.55.04 # i think its probably not too difficult to setup a "device" that targets SDL on my PC, which seems like a pretty good first step 03.55.19 # although i'm currently more or less lost reading the configure script 03.57.44 Quit mackes ("I'm quiting for now.") 04.01.04 # i was thinking of adding an "application\sdl" folder to the target tree and copying SDL stuff into there 04.01.41 # so that eventually there might be other support for native OS apis too (\osx,\wince,whatever) 04.02.25 # That seems pretty logical to me. 04.04.28 Join mackes [0] (n=root@cpe-24-198-43-238.buffalo.res.rr.com) 04.08.40 # have any of the other SOC students been around? 04.08.54 # I haven't seen them. 04.09.10 # me 04.09.17 Nick mib_qpxm7e is now known as TaylorKillian (i=826c116f@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-161e14179ddc8bab) 04.09.36 # * Llorean also hasn't specifically been looking for them. 04.11.03 # you're on the emulator project right? 04.11.11 # yup 04.11.27 # doin research on it right now 04.11.55 # which emulator are you leaning towards? 04.12.11 # i favored skyeye, but i think a few other good emulators also existed 04.12.29 # i like qemu because it seems to be more active 04.12.44 # although i might steal some stuff from skyeye 04.13.09 # i haven't heard of qemu, i'll look at it now 04.13.18 # does it emulate a specific arm SOC? 04.13.41 # it's pretty good, it emulates a whole bunch of platforms, x86, x86_64, mips, arm, etc 04.14.01 # saratoga: I'm not sure :/ 04.14.21 # my guess is no, it looks pretty generic 04.14.30 # yeah the page looks that way 04.14.33 Quit mackes ("I'm quiting for now.") 04.15.50 # anyways, i'm trying to get rockbox to at least load on it right now, but still trying to figure out rockbox internals 04.16.24 # like what file is the kernel, what the bootloader is, and what formats they are in, etc. 04.16.29 # i liked skyeye because it emulates specific arm processors and socs 04.16.47 # although obviously having solid emulation is most important 04.16.57 # yeah, i liked that about it also, but it seems pretty outdated 04.17.03 # how so? 04.17.18 # i only looked at it briefly, but it was updated a couple months back and supports a lot of cores 04.17.26 # it's been a long while since the last release 04.17.38 # last november? 04.18.01 # since its based on armulator, I would not expect the core emulator to be updated a whole lot, except to add new devices 04.18.17 # yeah 04.18.29 Quit ctaylorr (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 04.18.45 # i also couldn't find a whole lot of documentation on their site, which was a major turn off 04.18.55 Join csc` [0] (n=csc@archlinux/user/csc) 04.19.05 # the documentation has to be at least a couple years old 04.19.20 Join mackes [0] (n=root@cpe-24-198-43-238.buffalo.res.rr.com) 04.20.15 # anyways, i'm open to any of them 04.20.25 # i'm just in my discovery period right now 04.20.41 # trying to figure out which one will be easiest to work with 04.21.42 # i'd probably start by looking for a good emulator that could do some basic arm cpu like the arm7 or arm9 cores, and then trying to get linux running on it 04.22.16 # yeah, i've successfully gotten linux to work on the qemu arm processor 04.22.22 # ah good 04.22.49 # i forget what arm processor it said it was though... 04.22.51 # is it mostly a debugger or can it give some timing/profiling information? 04.24.08 Quit MethoS_ (Remote closed the connection) 04.24.43 # qemu? 04.24.57 # yeah 04.25.13 # qemu is a fully functional virtual machine, and it has a gdb interface 04.25.22 # i've run windows xp on it for a while 04.25.23 # might be fun to try some rockbox codecs on it under linux if it can give some timing information 04.25.42 # yeah, i haven't played around with the settings to much 04.26.06 # not to sure what it is capable of, but i do know it works pretty fast and accurate 04.26.20 # hopefully speed doesn't become too much of an issue 04.26.47 # I wouldn't imagine that it would 04.26.49 # i'd expect a modern processor to be faster running arm code then most of our targets 04.27.07 # but accuracy is nice 04.27.08 # yup 04.27.18 # Toni's emulator is fun to play with, but too incomplete to be very useful 04.27.35 # alright, it's doing an ARM9 processor right now 04.27.44 # does it say which? 04.28.15 # ARM926EJ-Sid 04.29.07 # gimme a sec, i got the source, I can look it up 04.30.03 # "In case of ARM, it can emulate an Integrator or a Versatile platform. The Versatile one is the most interesting as it includes a hard disk SCSI controller, an Ethernet card and a graphical display" 04.30.08 # sounds promising 04.31.07 # yeah, and like i said, we can borrow code from skyeye if needed 04.31.51 # the ARM926EJ is an ARMv5 part with an MMU, but i think its otherwise very similar to the ARM9TDMI used in the Gigabeat F and some of the potiential upcoming rockbox targets 04.32.02 Join linuxstb_ [0] (n=linuxstb@rockbox/developer/linuxstb) 04.33.43 Join Hillshum [0] (n=chatzill@75-165-239-125.slkc.qwest.net) 04.35.41 # TaylorKillian: for looking at rockbox, a good place to start might be one of the ARM processors in firmware/target/arm 04.36.32 Quit jhMikeS (Nick collision from services.) 04.36.34 # the sansa in particular, since its got fairly simple hardware, and theres already Toni's emulator which handles its display 04.36.38 Join jhMikeS [50] (n=jethead7@rockbox/developer/jhMikeS) 04.38.20 # alright, i'll take a look at that, thanks 04.39.13 # from the code, here is what is implemented (or partially implemented): ARM1026,ARM926,ARM946,TI915T,TI925T,PXA250,PXA255,PXA260,PXA261,PXA262,PXA270,PXA270_A0,PXA270_A1,PXA270_B0,PXA270_B1,PXA270_C0,PXA270_C5,ARM1136,ARM1136_R2,ARM11MPCORE,CORTEXA8,CORTEXM3 04.42.22 # linux on arm emulator in Qemu , just for info 04.42.31 # http://www.aurel32.net/info/debian_arm_qemu.php 04.43.47 Quit linuxstb__ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 04.44.10 Quit krazykit (Remote closed the connection) 04.44.14 Join krazykit [0] (n=kkit@adsl-99-155-236-59.dsl.ipltin.sbcglobal.net) 04.44.31 Join miepchen^schlaf_ [0] (n=miepchen@p54BF4242.dip.t-dialin.net) 04.44.35 # toffe82: thanks 04.53.13 Quit cool_walking_ (Remote closed the connection) 04.53.39 Join cool_walking_ [0] (n=notroot@203-59-129-195.perm.iinet.net.au) 04.59.31 Quit saratoga ("CGI:IRC") 04.59.50 Quit miepchen^schlaf (Connection timed out) 05.05.23 # What is the chance MSC mode will function as recovery mode on Sansa v2? 05.07.56 Quit AndyI (Remote closed the connection) 05.08.16 Join AndyI [0] (n=pasha_in@81.89.116.124) 05.15.03 # Hillshum: I don't think anyone can really say. 05.16.44 # hmm... because 1) Sandisk tried to hide all MSC on the e202 and 2)all tech calls say "use forced MSC" i really bet it will be so 05.22.16 Quit mackes (Remote closed the connection) 05.45.52 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 05.47.04 Quit vort3x (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 05.47.29 Join vort3x [0] (n=vortex@unaffiliated/dfa001) 05.51.31 Quit Hillshum ("ChatZilla 0.9.82.1 [Firefox 2.0.0.14/2008040413]") 05.57.33 Join SleepyFloyd [0] (n=Sleepy@p54AE48C9.dip.t-dialin.net) 05.57.54 Quit fdinel ("Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org") 05.59.16 Part SleepyFloyd ("Ex-Chat") 06.00.15 Quit AndyI (Remote closed the connection) 06.00.40 Join AndyI [0] (n=pasha_in@81.89.116.124) 06.05.52 Join woodensoul [0] (n=noneofya@pool-72-86-96-116.aubnin.fios.verizon.net) 06.06.35 # How's it hanging tonight? I've got a question about a recent bug. 06.06.39 Join mackes [0] (n=root@cpe-24-198-43-238.buffalo.res.rr.com) 06.07.51 # It's pretty nasty since it causes a total lockup. When queueing a track into a playlist, the lockup occurs towards the end of the queued track. 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It's short enough that it doesn't significantly increase message size. 10.31.11 Join linuxstb__ [0] (n=linuxstb@i-83-67-212-170.freedom2surf.net) 10.32.44 # ok, I've added it there now so let's see how it looks in use 10.34.06 Nick gevaerts_ is now known as gevaerts (n=fg@195-144-092-145.dyn.adsl.xs4all.be) 10.34.24 # It's shorter than some of the signatures some people on there have. 10.34.24 # I didn't add it for the dev list as I've seen less need there 10.36.22 # there are 930 subscribers of the users list btw 10.37.08 # Wow, not a small number. 10.42.56 Quit linuxstb (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 10.44.08 Quit ompaul (Client Quit) 10.45.05 Join tvelocity [0] (n=tony@athedsl-4420511.home.otenet.gr) 10.45.38 # I've noticed lately on my 80GB 5.5G iPod that the "background" dircache boot-time update seems to almost entirely crowd out all other I/O. 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Sometimes it's hard to determine if you should try to explain what "porting" is, or just say "No, Rockbox doesn't run on that player. Sorry." 12.00.53 Join ompaul [0] (n=ompaul@gnewsense/friend/ompaul) 12.03.06 # indeed 12.10.18 Join PaulJam [0] (i=PaulJam_@vpn-3060.gwdg.de) 12.20.18 Join MethoS- [0] (n=clemens@pD955C2E7.dip.t-dialin.net) 12.21.44 Join moos [0] (i=moos@m198.net81-66-127.noos.fr) 12.24.50 Join [CBR]Unspoken|w [0] (n=cbr@212.98.160.130) 12.28.52 Join Thundercloud [0] (n=thunderc@resnet20.nat.lancs.ac.uk) 12.30.59 Quit domonoky (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 12.32.25 Join n1s [0] (n=nils@rockbox/developer/n1s) 12.34.15 Part B4gder 12.35.13 Nick fxb__ is now known as fxb (n=felixbru@h1252615.stratoserver.net) 12.37.03 Quit CyBergRind|w (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 12.37.09 Join Nico_P [50] (n=nicolas@rockbox/developer/NicoP) 12.41.59 Quit DerDome (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 12.42.17 Join lorenzo_ [0] (n=lorenzo@host180-16-dynamic.11-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) 12.42.36 Join tvelocity_ [0] (n=tony@athedsl-4427041.home.otenet.gr) 12.42.44 Nick lorenzo_ is now known as DjLaurenz (n=lorenzo@host180-16-dynamic.11-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) 12.43.16 # hi 12.43.24 # is someone italian here? 12.43.49 # you ? 12.43.51 # * gevaerts hides 12.44.41 # what? 12.44.42 # Bagder: how many subscribers are there on the dev list? 12.44.58 # DjLaurenz: probably not, but maybe we can help you in English? 12.45.50 # yes 12.46.33 # i wish to know if i could help for porting of a t-logic mp3 player 12.46.38 # but i'm not a developer 12.47.33 Quit ompaul (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 12.50.41 # nothing? 12.50.52 # DjLaurenz, look at the newport wiki 12.51.43 # mmm... ok 12.53.08 # DjLaurenz: at bthis time of day most people are not very active 12.53.50 # i understand 12.54.21 # but i looked for "a help to help you" 12.54.49 # People in Europe are at work, and people in America are not awake yet (or only just) 12.55.06 # yes, it's true ;) 12.57.46 # Anyway, as advcomp2019 said, have a look at http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/NewPort first 12.58.43 # ok, 12.58.57 # but i can't use assemblers or similar... 12.59.01 # i repeat i'm not a developer 12.59.26 # but i wanted to know if there was a way to help for porting this mp3 player 12.59.29 Quit Mathiasdm ("Yuuw!") 12.59.38 Join Mathiasdm [0] (n=Mathias@78-22-5-158.access.telenet.be) 13.01.38 # DjLaurenz: the first steps (opening up your player, finding datasheets for the chips) can be done without programming 13.01.41 Quit tvelocity (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 13.01.41 Quit BlakeJohnson86 ("Leaving.") 13.02.02 # you could open the player and get scans or great photos of the insides 13.02.17 # As for Americans, a few of us (the dumb ones) haven't even gone to bed yet. 13.02.23 # markun, you was faster :) 13.02.27 # * Mouser_X realizes what time it is... 13.02.28 # :D 13.03.10 # ok, i try to open it 13.05.12 # you could also try to find other people with this player interested in such a port 13.05.35 # Mouser_X: east or west ? 13.05.43 # * gevaerts hopes "west" ... 13.06.03 # in italy nobody wants to do anything :D 13.07.13 # Between the West and the middle. 13.07.53 # It's not (yet...) light out! 13.13.31 # * gevaerts thanks desowin 13.13.51 # oops... wrong channel :( 13.13.51 # heh 13.15.51 Quit Mathiasdm ("Yuuw!") 13.16.00 Join Mathiasdm [0] (n=Mathias@78-22-5-158.access.telenet.be) 13.16.23 Quit Mathiasdm (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 13.16.25 Join Mathiasdm [0] (n=Mathias@78-22-5-158.access.telenet.be) 13.16.43 # hey 13.16.49 # i've opened my mp3 player 13.17.01 # there is a "hynix" chip :D 13.17.06 # never heard in my life :D 13.17.28 # hynix is ram or flash. 13.17.46 # ah ok 13.18.18 # there is also an "oki" chip 13.18.28 # DjLaurenz: do you have a digital camera so we can take a look? 13.18.36 # ah yes 13.18.41 # waita moment 13.22.29 Join PaulJam_ [0] (i=PaulJam_@vpn-3105.gwdg.de) 13.25.47 Quit Mathiasdm ("Yuuw!") 13.25.52 Join Mathiasdm [0] (n=Mathias@78-22-5-158.access.telenet.be) 13.27.58 Quit PaulJam (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 13.31.48 Join webguest29 [0] (n=5347c50a@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-faad7d9c58da5809) 13.33.30 Quit webguest29 (Client Quit) 13.35.55 Quit homielowe () 13.36.18 Join kugel [0] (n=chatzill@unaffiliated/kugel) 13.45.03 Join ompaul [0] (n=ompaul@gnewsense/friend/ompaul) 13.45.22 Quit MethoS- (Remote closed the connection) 13.46.00 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 13.47.43 # markun 13.47.47 # are you still there? 13.48.52 # DjLaurenz, you can just post the link then someone else might look at it too 13.48.59 # ok 13.52.02 # and I'm still here (from time to time) 13.52.42 # http://www.sendspace.com/file/8a114x 13.53.00 # i hope that quality photo is good enough 13.56.08 # * linuxstb hosts it here - http://www.davechapman.f2s.com/rockbox/100_1737.JPG 13.56.49 # wait, now i upload an archive with more photo 13.57.02 # DjLaurenz: the oki chip is the cpu 13.57.24 # * pixelma spots a very common tuner chip 13.57.54 # DjLaurenz, what is that oki chip L69Q??? 13.57.54 # What device is this? 13.58.02 # l69q6500 13.58.11 # Google gives a lot of hits for that number 13.58.20 # so, is it possible to create a rockbox firmware for this?L69Q6500 13.58.22 # s/a lot/6/ 13.58.23 # ;) 13.58.46 # http://www.sendspace.com/file/h0rbgu 13.59.05 # it is ARM7 or ARM9 from what oki site says 13.59.23 # looks more like ARM7 13.59.40 # i read only "ARM" with no number 13.59.44 # there are datasheets for a ML69Q6203 on their site 14.00.04 # * linuxstb just reached that page... 14.00.24 # this mp3 player has also a toshiba hard disk drive 14.00.36 # 20 gb 14.01.41 # that chip is an 120MHz arm 946e (with is v5te) not sure how similar they are though 14.01.55 # s/with/which/ 14.02.43 # DjLaurenz: It's possible to create rockbox firmwares for anything - it's just a matter of how hard it is... But if the CPU is ARM, and you can find a datasheet from OKI, it's _relatively_ easy.. But no port is simple. 14.03.10 # i understand 14.03.35 # Are there firmware updates available from the manufacturer ? 14.03.38 # i'd have to find datasheet of chip, or have you found it? 14.03.43 # This appears to be the page for that CPU - http://www2.okisemi.com/site/productscatalog/armsolutions/mcumpu/availabledocs/Intro-5435.html 14.04.05 # Assuming it's the "ML69Q6500" 14.05.17 # It seems pretty standard - 120MHz ARM9, 128KB of SRAM, 512KB embedded flash ROM, and embedded audio codec. 14.05.34 # http://www.datasheetarchive.com/ML69Q6500-datasheet.html 14.05.44 # However, "User Manual is available by contacting your local Oki Sales Office" 14.06.14 # OKI have a (320KB) datasheet here - http://www2.okisemi.com/site/productscatalog/mcumpu/availabledocs/custom_oki/OrderDocument/ML696500_Series.pdf 14.06.45 # ... which requires registration... 14.06.56 # arm really probably are exceedingly wealthy 14.07.08 # seems everybody are using their cores for embedded stuff 14.07.29 # if you want, i can register on the site and i'll send you datasheet 14.07.51 # The datasheet probably isn't that interesting - it's the "user manual" you will need. 14.08.13 Quit ali_as_ ("router reboot.") 14.10.19 # http://www.okisemi.com/eu/docbox/ml696200ds.pdf 14.10.40 # here there is some specification 14.12.38 Join ali_as [0] (n=as@ambix.plus.com) 14.12.58 # I've got that datasheet now, and it's not interesting - there's no information about the registers, just sales information and a physical description of the chip. 14.13.15 Join Zarggg [0] (n=z@216-15-73-111.c3-0.eas-ubr6.atw-eas.pa.cable.rcn.com) 14.14.52 # i've downloaded a more specific datasheet 14.18.26 # DjLaurenz: The "more specific" datasheet doesn't contained detailed information on the chip. OKI advertise a "user manual" on their site, which you need to contact their Sales office to receive. That's what you will need. 14.19.06 # ... 14.19.10 # i understand... 14.19.45 Quit kugel (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 14.20.07 Join kugel [0] (n=chatzill@e178073161.adsl.alicedsl.de) 14.20.52 # if i am at the right t-logic site.. looks like they might take other mp3 players and sell them as their own because there is a few that look like meizu mp3 players 14.23.25 Quit [CBR]Unspoken|w (Success) 14.23.35 # DjLaurenz: is there a way for you to contact other t-logic owners? (like a forum for example). Doing a port just for 1 person isn't a lot of fun. 14.24.07 # you have reason 14.24.14 # sorry, you're right... 14.24.23 # i don't know... 14.24.51 # some time ago, searching on google some information on my portable mp3 player 14.25.24 # i've seen that there aren't many people that use this mp3 player... 14.25.57 # considering that firmware of this mp3 player is a s**t 14.26.14 # and being a linux user (kubuntu) 14.26.37 # a friend told me about rockbox project 14.26.53 # and i've come here 14.29.37 # understood? 14.29.54 # DjLaurenz, do you have a photo of the outside or do you have model of the player.. i am just wondering if there could be another player that can can be the same 14.30.29 # model player is tl-255 14.30.55 # t-logic epos vision tl-255 14.31.17 Join MethoS- [0] (n=clemens@host-091-096-211-009.ewe-ip-backbone.de) 14.32.36 # you must know t-logic mp3 players here in italy, are the most used and convenient, but i don't know how many people have this model 14.34.10 Join courtc [0] (n=court@c-24-99-230-218.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) 14.34.13 Quit courtc (Client Quit) 14.34.26 Join [CBR]Unspoken|w [0] (n=cbr@212.98.160.130) 14.34.36 Join courtc [0] (n=court@c-24-99-230-218.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) 14.36.13 Quit [CBR]Unspoken|w (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 14.36.14 Join CyBergRind|w [0] (n=cbr@212.98.160.130) 14.37.00 Join BlakeJohnson86 [0] (n=bjohnson@c-24-118-135-22.hsd1.mn.comcast.net) 14.44.17 Quit CyBergRind|w (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 14.44.32 Quit kugel (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 14.44.36 Join CyBergRind|w [0] (n=cbr@212.98.160.130) 14.45.19 # hey, i want to say that if there are problems for porting this, don't worry 14.45.45 # i can use it like a normal hard disk drive but not a mp3 player 14.46.08 # ok? 14.46.26 # I don't understand 14.46.44 # why can't you use it as an mp3 player? 14.47.03 # the firmware doesn't play the files you upload in linux? 14.47.37 Quit CyBergRind|w (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 14.47.53 Join cbr|w [0] (n=cbr@212.98.160.130) 14.47.58 # because the original firmware is damaged 14.48.28 Join Genre9mp3 [0] (n=yngwiejo@rockbox/contributor/Genre9mp3) 14.48.29 # the player's OS doesn't start 14.48.36 # i've tried to re-upload 14.48.38 # strange 14.48.42 # but nothing 14.48.46 # But you can still attach it to your PC? 14.48.50 # yes 14.49.19 # kubuntu finds it like an external hard disk drive 14.49.21 # nothing more 14.49.43 # windows, too 14.50.12 # i thought that rockbox could be a solution 14.52.02 Quit cbr|w (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 14.52.20 Join cbr|w [0] (n=cbr@212.98.160.130) 15.01.23 # DjLaurenz: it could be, but might take some months of work 15.03.11 Join tvelocity__ [0] (n=tony@athedsl-02946.home.otenet.gr) 15.11.47 Join LambdaCalculus37 [0] (i=44a0430f@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-ba6fb596c16a85fd) 15.16.44 Quit tvelocity_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 15.24.08 Quit DjLaurenz (Remote closed the connection) 15.38.18 Join MethoS_ [0] (n=clemens@host-091-096-212-031.ewe-ip-backbone.de) 15.38.27 Quit ompaul (No route to host) 15.41.19 Join mrkiko_ [0] (n=mrkiko@host177-100-static.32-88-b.business.telecomitalia.it) 15.44.14 Quit tvelocity__ ("Αποχώρησε") 15.44.42 Join droetker [0] (n=christia@213.47.41.121) 15.45.33 Quit droetker (Remote closed the connection) 15.45.56 Join droetker [0] (n=christia@213.47.41.121) 15.46.02 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 15.46.24 # hi there! 15.46.51 # anyone here? 15.46.54 Quit daurnimator (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 15.47.06 Quit mrkiko (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 15.47.11 # 133 users. 15.47.19 # Do you have a question? 15.48.23 Nick mrkiko_ is now known as mrkiko (n=mrkiko@host177-100-static.32-88-b.business.telecomitalia.it) 15.48.41 Part droetker ("Konversation terminated!") 15.48.45 # I think he meant in the philosophical sense. 15.49.30 # ali_as: I only ask because a lot of people come in here thinking this is a social channel. 15.49.50 # Aha. 15.53.47 Join XavierGr [0] (n=xavier@rockbox/staff/XavierGr) 15.55.41 Quit MethoS- (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 15.57.12 Join MethoS- [0] (n=clemens@host-091-096-214-034.ewe-ip-backbone.de) 15.57.12 Join linuxstb_ [0] (n=linuxstb@rockbox/developer/linuxstb) 15.58.26 Join gregzx [0] (n=chatzill@dtf161.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) 16.03.40 Quit mrkiko (Nick collision from services.) 16.06.12 Join DerDome [0] (n=DerDome@dslb-082-083-207-227.pools.arcor-ip.net) 16.10.17 Quit desowin ("KVIrc 4.0.0 Insomnia http://www.kvirc.net/") 16.10.27 # when and why was the behaviour if the "create playlist" option changed that it now inserts the tracks to the playlist instead of replacing the whole playlist? 16.10.47 Quit linuxstb (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 16.11.48 Join Arathis [0] (n=doerk@p508A4D9A.dip.t-dialin.net) 16.12.23 Join Davide-NYC [0] (n=chatzill@user-0cev9vm.cable.mindspring.com) 16.12.36 # morning 16.12.48 # PaulJam_: I guess this is after r17603 16.12.55 # LambdaCalculus37: you around? 16.13.12 Join simonrvn_ [0] (i=simon@unaffiliated/simonrvn) 16.13.23 # Davide-NYC: Morning, dude! 16.13.40 # on the sansa c2x0, what are the specs on the recording? 16.13.52 # samplerate, bitdepth, etc 16.13.55 # Let me dig it out real quick. 16.14.02 # * LambdaCalculus37 reaches into his pack 16.14.11 Quit MethoS_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 16.14.15 # it only records at 22.05kHz 16.14.28 # at 16bit? 16.14.32 # Yes, on all formats. 16.14.34 # At 16-bit. 16.15.12 # OK. I was just forming an opinion an needed all the facts. I think it's pointless to worry about the DC offset on such a crappy ADC/ 16.15.37 # * Davide-NYC reminds that the c2x0 exhibits some wierd DC offset on audio recordings. 16.16.02 # Davide-NYC: Well, for more serious recording efforts, I'd certainly not use my c200, but it makes fine for a voice dictator. 16.16.03 # yes, e200 and c200 aren't very good recording devices 16.16.04 Join BuXY95 [0] (n=5b788d87@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-1aca9c09c73cc51c) 16.16.17 # hi guys, my rockbox just crashed 16.16.26 # Which device? 16.16.27 # iriver h120 16.16.40 # i was force updating the database 16.16.40 # Get a paper clip and push the reset button on the bottom. 16.16.56 # now it says: *PANIC* Write 38125 before data 16.17.15 # does it help anyone? :) 16.17.18 # Genre9mp3: i thought r17603 only touches the menu layout. i suspect r17352. will try in the uisim. 16.17.26 Quit Ragnor (Nick collision from services.) 16.17.36 Join Ragnor [0] (n=Ragnor@dslb-084-060-146-086.pools.arcor-ip.net) 16.18.06 # Davide-NYC: By the way, I also noticed the DC offset on a c200 recording. 16.18.34 # It came from a microphone recording. 16.18.57 # are thgere other inputs on a c2x0? 16.18.58 # * LambdaCalculus37 goes to see if he still has the file on his c200 or if he moved it off already 16.19.04 # The FM radio. 16.19.12 # And... yep, that's it. :) 16.19.16 # no DC offset from the radio? 16.19.33 # PaulJam_: oh yes, you are right 16.20.03 # Davide-NYC: Not that I've noticed, but I can take a look at the file later on tonight. 16.20.11 # can anyone explain what my error message is about? 16.20.27 # isn't there a dock also that allows for line-in? I think I saw such a thing advertised somewhere but don't remember if line-in was mentioned 16.21.26 # If the DC offset occurs only during mic recording, could there be hopes of a hardware mod to resolve it? 16.21.40 # can i help bugfixing with this error message?? 16.24.39 Part LinusN 16.24.52 # Davide-NYC: Perhaps. I can't say 100% for sure. 16.25.10 # But everything is always worth a try, right? ;) 16.25.23 Join simonrvn1 [0] (n=simon@219.214-ppp.3menatwork.com) 16.25.32 # If Rockbox keeps getting ported to crappy target with even crappier recording support (which I fully endorse, the more target supported the better) it might be a reasonable idea to try to implement an (optional) auto-DC-offset filter for recordings on targets that have the problem. 16.25.45 Quit simonrvn (Nick collision from services.) 16.25.50 Nick simonrvn1 is now known as simonrvn (n=simon@219.214-ppp.3menatwork.com) 16.25.56 # Over and out! :) 16.26.07 Quit Davide-NYC ("ChatZilla 0.9.82.1 [Firefox 2.0.0.14/2008040413]") 16.31.42 Quit petur ("stkov!") 16.36.23 Quit BuXY95 ("CGI:IRC") 16.37.27 Join toffe82 [0] (n=chatzill@h-74-0-180-178.snvacaid.covad.net) 16.43.18 # a dc blocker should be quick enough to code 16.44.09 Join PaulJam [0] (i=PaulJam_@vpn-3105.gwdg.de) 16.44.56 Quit stripwax (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 16.48.05 Quit simonrvn_ (No route to host) 16.50.44 Nick fxb is now known as fxb__ (n=felixbru@h1252615.stratoserver.net) 16.50.58 Join pixelma_ [50] (i=pixelma@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 16.52.56 Quit pixelma (Nick collision from services.) 16.52.56 Nick pixelma_ is now known as pixelma (i=pixelma@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 16.54.19 # preglow: You're going to go for it? 16.56.48 # well, not now, obviously 16.56.57 Quit pixelma (" HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- Go on, try it!") 16.56.58 # but if there happens to be demand for it 16.57.17 # * linuxstb_ demands a dc blocker 16.57.24 # * preglow drops everything 16.57.52 # * linuxstb_ googles to find out what a dc blocker is 16.58.10 # it just removes 0 hz from a signal 16.58.16 # in essence a simple highpass filter with a low cutoff 16.59.45 Quit Genre9mp3 () 17.00.16 Quit Makuseru (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 17.01.04 Join Makuseru [0] (n=max@163.106.40.24.aeneasdsl.com) 17.01.12 Quit PaulJam_ (No route to host) 17.01.47 Join BigBambi [0] (n=Alex@rockbox/staff/BigBambi) 17.02.14 Join daurnimator [0] (i=daurn@unaffiliated/daurnimator) 17.03.42 Nick fxb__ is now known as fxb (n=felixbru@h1252615.stratoserver.net) 17.08.13 Join maraz_ [0] (i=maraz@xob.kapsi.fi) 17.08.18 Quit maraz (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 17.08.34 Nick fxb is now known as fxb__ (n=felixbru@h1252615.stratoserver.net) 17.08.43 Join Genre9mp3 [0] (n=yngwiejo@rockbox/contributor/Genre9mp3) 17.14.41 Quit MethoS- (Remote closed the connection) 17.17.34 Quit Makuseru (Remote closed the connection) 17.21.27 Join MethoS- [0] (n=clemens@host-091-096-214-034.ewe-ip-backbone.de) 17.23.05 Join Brot1 [0] (n=Brot1@chello213047072106.wrn.surfer.at) 17.24.25 # hello, i have an iAudio X5L. Which bootloader should I download, because there is no explicit boatloader for the L-version. there are only x5_fw.bin and x5v_fw.bin 17.24.43 # x5_fw.bin is the one you want. 17.24.51 # LambdaCalculus37, thank you 17.25.09 # No problem. :) 17.25.44 # Be sure to read the manual carefully, and if there's anything that's particularly confusing, you can ask us about it. 17.29.45 # ok, thanks a lot.. 17.29.49 Quit Brot1 ("Leaving") 17.31.42 # * n1s wonders why the modplayer calculates the periodtable on init instead of using a precalculated one... 17.32.25 # and sintable, this has to take a while on some targets... 17.37.00 Join svpe [0] (n=svpe@p5490742C.dip.t-dialin.net) 17.45.46 Quit Mathiasdm ("Yuuw!") 17.46.04 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 17.46.05 Join danny_d [0] (i=97bc699c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-816a473cfeb46e22) 17.47.19 Quit danny_d (Client Quit) 17.47.22 Join mcuelenaere [0] (n=mcuelena@rockbox/developer/mcuelenaere) 17.49.22 # Good afternoon all 17.49.49 # TheGazR: Good afternoon! 17.49.56 # Have any luck recovering your player? 17.50.43 # Well, I haven't built my Jtag yet 17.50.47 # I've had exams today 17.50.52 # so not really done anything 17.51.00 # TheGazR: you have the components for it? 17.51.12 # Not yet! I know what to buy though :) 17.51.20 # nice :) 17.51.28 # Though, I spoke to my friend, and he said you can buy things like that on eBay? 17.51.37 # I think so, yes 17.52.29 # If you find the right seller, then yes you can. 17.52.40 # hmm, yeah! I did have a look, couldn't realy see anything that I needed 17.52.51 # But the best place is always a dedicated electronics shop. 17.53.36 Join jgarvey [0] (n=jgarvey@cpe-024-163-032-204.nc.res.rr.com) 17.54.24 # No reply for Aigo either; bastards! 17.55.46 # I took loads of pictures last night too, and stuck them on the Wiki, don't know if you guys saw :) 17.56.49 # I saw it :) 17.56.56 # I haven't checked them out, though 17.56.57 # Me too. :) 17.57.00 Join Mathiasdm [0] (n=Mathias@78-22-5-158.access.telenet.be) 17.57.34 # mm those are pretty clear 17.57.50 # BTW, I got a reply from a guy who made a bFLT loader for IDA 17.58.00 # bFLT is a file format made by Clinux 17.58.19 # but I'll upload the sources whenever he replies whether it's ok to publish them 18.00.03 # Yeah! For some crazy reason I could just not get decent pictures using my digital camera, they were coming out better on my camera phone. But when I cleaned the lens of the camera, they came out perfect D: 18.04.39 Join lee-qid [0] (n=liqid@p54965934.dip.t-dialin.net) 18.04.46 Join tvelocity [0] (n=tony@85.72.151.148) 18.08.04 # Are Jtags common in RockBox development? 18.08.51 # we use it for the gigabeat F 18.09.09 # The iriver H100 and H300 have JTAGs as well, don't they? 18.09.20 # not many devs have them 18.09.32 # So, if I use a jtag and it works, that's basically my failsafe for a bad flash? 18.09.35 # * LambdaCalculus37 also knows that some Creative devices (that he's seen, anyway) have JTAG 18.09.36 # jtag is also on the gigabeat S and V 18.09.42 Quit lee-qid ("aufwiederbyebientotsayonara") 18.09.42 # LambdaCalculus37: they have jtag ports 18.09.51 # not inherently a jtag :) 18.10.02 # Ahh. 18.10.04 Quit mcuelenaere (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 18.10.22 # LambdaCalculus37: You have to connect a jtag to the target in question 18.10.45 # LambdaCalculus37: also on the coldfire targets it is not jtag but bdm (Background debug mode) 18.11.04 Join linuxstb__ [0] (n=linuxstb@rockbox/developer/linuxstb) 18.11.16 Join mcuelenaere [0] (n=mcuelena@rockbox/developer/mcuelenaere) 18.11.37 # BigBambi, n1s: Thanks for clarifying for me. :) 18.11.55 # * BigBambi always loved the name BDM Wiggler 18.11.59 # It's a shame I don't think I'd be experianced enough to create a bootloader 18.12.07 Join bluebrother [0] (n=dom@rockbox/staff/bluebrother) 18.12.20 # Make my own magic button combination for modifying the room 18.12.23 # * n1s whispers 'learning bu doing' 18.12.29 # s/bu/by/ 18.12.36 # n1s: chinese whisper? :) 18.13.51 Join MethoS_ [0] (n=clemens@host-091-096-211-088.ewe-ip-backbone.de) 18.14.04 # well, I wouldn't know where to store it either, the flash rom is exactly the same size at the rom file 18.14.20 # There is probably some padding 18.14.23 # * n1s decides that the keybox plugin will not be endianness independent, at least not initially. Now to figure out if it will data abort on those targets, that do that 18.16.25 # bluebrother: you there? 18.16.39 # bluebrother: If you stop playback, then use insert, you get a new playlist 18.16.53 # bluebrother: If you pause playback, then insert will stick it in the existing one 18.17.17 Join Rincewind [0] (i=F8KLZyTp@nat-wh-1.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de) 18.17.36 Quit TaylorKillian (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 18.19.06 # BigBambi: yep 18.19.19 # bluebrother: that isn't what you seem to have said on the forum 18.19.24 # really? 18.19.30 # * bluebrother goes trying 18.20.20 # bluebrother: http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=16955.msg125785#msg125785 18.20.24 # Some new info on the S5L8450 (used in the iriver T series for example) http://iriver-t10.sourceforge.net/t10-hardware.html 18.22.20 # BigBambi: ok, edited my post accordingly. But don't you think that this is somewhat counter-intuitive? 18.22.34 # bluebrother: yes :) 18.22.45 # bluebrother: but it is what happens currently anyway :) 18.22.54 Join linuxstb [0] (n=linuxstb@rockbox/developer/linuxstb) 18.22.55 Quit jgarvey ("Leaving") 18.23.06 # Can ROCKbox handle m3us ? 18.23.09 # yes 18.23.11 # true. But we should think about making it more consistent. As I consider the current way inconsistent ;-) 18.23.14 Join miepchen^schlaf [0] (n=miepchen@dslb-088-072-207-107.pools.arcor-ip.net) 18.23.17 # bluebrother: I agree 18.23.28 # What about M3Us that are 1Mb large? 18.23.53 # bluebrother: there was an argument that went on for a few hours in IRC a while (month maybe) ago about that 18.24.10 # TheGazR: How many items do you have for it to be that big! 18.24.30 # TheGazR: But if you have set the max items in a playlist setting big enough, it should be fine 18.25.04 Quit linuxstb_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 18.25.39 # 15,876 18.26.18 # so you need to change the max items in playlist to at least 16,000, but yes, it should be fine 18.26.19 Quit amiconn (Nick collision from services.) 18.26.25 Join amiconn [50] (n=jens@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 18.27.02 # Cool :) 18.27.10 # Mind you, I'm thinking way ahead of myself 18.27.31 # Have to debrick this thing first 18.28.23 # That's going to be a job and a half 18.30.53 Quit MethoS- (Connection timed out) 18.31.44 # I do appreciate all the help you guys are giving though - I didn't think I would get anywhere near this amount of help :D 18.32.43 # man the cymbals are destroying this record :/ 18.32.54 # meh, wrong channel 18.32.59 Join Crash91 [0] (n=29e8cd25@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-0d13b88f8531e0f6) 18.33.18 Quit Crash91 (Client Quit) 18.34.19 Quit linuxstb__ (Read error: 101 (Network is unreachable)) 18.37.15 # offtopic: Who's idea was it to have doom on RB anyway? That's insane! 18.38.00 Quit MethoS_ (Connection timed out) 18.39.40 # TheGazR: the idea is pretty old... http://www.rockbox.org/doom/ :D 18.39.48 # that's so cool 18.39.59 # who's going to port Quake1 now that we have the beast? :) 18.39.59 # but it was kkurbjun who actually ported it 18.40.26 # markun: I've been toying with the idea but will probably not do it :P 18.40.40 # n1s: I believe it's written in C++, right? 18.41.09 # The gp2x port would probably be a good startingpoint 18.41.13 # "This is an april fools joke" :O 18.41.39 # markun: no, it's regular c, some ports use c++ however 18.41.56 # Quake 2 + 3 source is also available... 18.42.16 # When are we going to see Doom III ported to Rocbox then? :D 18.42.19 # markun: the "Pocket quake" port for pocket pc has at least a partial fixed point conversion too 18.42.45 # TheGazR: When id releases the engine source code under GPL? :D 18.42.59 # haha, groovy :P 18.43.06 # linuxstb: but q3 is useless in singleplayer so we need network support first! :) 18.43.31 # I hope I get some warning, I'll rip out my phenom and HD3850 and whack them into my reddmango ;) 18.48.37 # markun: What players use the Sigma EM85xx ? (I noticed you created a wiki page for it...) 18.51.03 # Mine does 18.54.07 # @Linuxstb 18.54.41 # Any others, though? 18.55.08 Quit Genre9mp3 () 18.55.45 # TheGazR: Is there a Rockbox wiki page for your device? 18.55.54 # Yeah 18.56.05 # http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/AngoraVX435 18.57.56 # * linuxstb links the two pages 18.58.02 Quit tvelocity ("Αποχώρησε") 19.00.01 # They're already linked 19.00.27 # Oh wait - Nevermind 19.00.28 Quit mcuelenaere (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 19.00.38 # Thanks :P 19.01.28 Join UncleRemus [0] (n=caj@78-69-154-184-no176.tbcn.telia.com) 19.02.22 Join nplus [0] (n=npl@141.25.globcom.net) 19.04.59 Join mcuelenaere [0] (n=mcuelena@rockbox/developer/mcuelenaere) 19.09.46 Quit miepchen^schlaf () 19.15.30 Join miepchen^schlaf [0] (n=miepchen@dslb-088-072-207-107.pools.arcor-ip.net) 19.16.20 Join csc` [0] (n=csc@archlinux/user/csc) 19.19.43 Join bertrik [0] (n=bertrik@180-013-045-062.dynamic.caiway.nl) 19.23.57 Join _hannes [0] (n=a@i59F7722B.versanet.de) 19.23.57 Quit mcuelenaere (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 19.25.50 # <_hannes> hello, i don't get the rockbox installation to work 19.26.07 # <_hannes> could someone help me please? 19.26.11 # what player do you have, did you use rbutil? 19.26.16 # <_hannes> 5.5g 80gb 19.26.33 # Are you certain it's an iPod video? 19.26.58 # <_hannes> yep 19.27.08 # <_hannes> i didn't use rbutil 19.27.12 # jwhat happens? 19.27.33 # Make sure by looking for your iPod on this chart: http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1353 19.27.43 # <_hannes> when i run the ipodpatcher it doesnt find the ipod 19.27.50 # <_hannes> ipod is in disk mode 19.28.21 Quit miepchen^schlaf () 19.28.49 Join neddy [0] (n=john@nat/sun/x-762ef45eb820ed26) 19.29.21 # <_hannes> its an ipod classic 80gb LambdaCalculus37 19.29.34 Join mcuelenaere [0] (n=mcuelena@rockbox/developer/mcuelenaere) 19.29.35 # Then you're out of luck. 19.29.47 # <_hannes> why? :D 19.29.48 # Rockbox doesn't run on the Classic. 19.29.54 # Not no way, not no how. 19.30.23 # <_hannes> will it in future support it? 19.30.32 # If someone works on it. 19.30.52 # <_hannes> well, thanks t.t 19.30.57 # if you look at http://oddco.ca/ZENscan.jpeg you see this like big metal covering, could it be possible that this is just to scare people away from removing it? 19.31.49 # mcuelenaere: That looks like a copper sheet to me. 19.32.11 # it is 19.32.15 # covered in plastic 19.32.20 Join ZincAlloy [0] (n=d9eedcce@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-82fe0ddda940e4a8) 19.32.29 # they took the trouble to make a hole in it for the little capacitor ... :) 19.32.40 # and for the main cpu 19.33.18 # looks a bit like some kind of shielding to me 19.33.27 # I think too 19.33.42 # they did the same on the ZVM (60GB) 19.33.45 # Yes, my Dell DJ had a similar copper sheet on the back of it as well. 19.33.52 # and on the ZVM, below it there are JTAG pins 19.33.53 # Underneath it, I found a JTAG port. 19.33.56 # :) 19.34.01 # s/port/pins 19.34.09 # :P 19.34.10 # s/below/underneath 19.34.11 # maybe it didn't pass EMC tests without the shield, so they added it as a quick fix 19.34.22 # you think so? on like all those targets? 19.34.27 Join AndyI [0] (n=pasha_in@81.89.116.210) 19.34.31 # why not? 19.34.41 # I don't know :) 19.34.43 # I think I should learn how to build a JTAG port for my Dell DJ. :) 19.34.45 # I'm just guessing 19.34.51 # and I for my ZVM :) 19.35.05 Join stripwax [0] (n=Miranda@87-194-34-169.bethere.co.uk) 19.35.23 # mcuelenaere: If you come to DCW, we could put our heads together to work on these Creative devices. :) 19.36.01 # mcuelenaere: I just noticed you updated the zen page, are you currently working on it? 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Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org") 20.39.39 Join TaylorKillian [0] (n=Administ@wl198118.wright.edu) 20.41.04 Quit amiconn (" rrreeebbbooottt") 20.41.30 # preglow: are you searching for something to test the mod codec? 20.42.25 Join toffe82 [0] (n=chatzill@h-74-0-180-178.snvacaid.covad.net) 20.43.31 # pixelma: I think he was looking at http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/9030 20.43.41 Join amiconn [50] (n=jens@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 20.44.53 # is it normal that some parts of the tracker give a blank page? (Tasklist, rockbox.org/tracker/, ...) 20.46.48 # bertrik: ah thanks. Btw. I reported a crash with one of my mods before the codec was committed (but if I remember correctly the crashes were at different addresses). 20.49.48 # mcuelenaere: something went wrong when PHP was upgraded some time ago 20.49.51 # mcuelenaere: no but it's a known issue 20.50.27 Quit daskhweg ("ivfn") 20.56.33 Quit LambdaCalculus37 ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") 21.00.28 # pixelma: no 21.07.04 # i just suspect the reporter has renamed his files to .mod without them actually being .mod 21.08.00 Quit Anakin (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 21.08.07 Quit TaylorKillian (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 21.08.12 Join anakiabpm [0] (i=0@86.122.116.44) 21.11.04 # can any e200 user confirm if doom is working fine? 21.13.39 Quit ap0 ("Bye.") 21.21.37 # weren't there reports about crashes specifically when using some rotated view in doom (on both portrait screen targets), though I didn't even know you could do that... 21.21.59 # preglow: did you see 9007 ? 21.22.42 # is rotated view a feature in svn? 21.23.08 # * bluebrother wants to close FS#8021 21.23.46 Join Xqtftqx [0] (i=40e9e3d2@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-913c34763572b21a) 21.24.18 # Hey guys, ive got my S hooked up to the F's Cradle 21.24.33 # I dont know if this helps but, only power in works, not line out or usb 21.26.05 # bluebrother: according to http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/8641 it is. Can't comment more... 21.31.49 # * gevaerts thinks that the default scroll speed is too high on h120 21.34.37 Join robin0800 [0] (n=robin080@cpc2-brig8-0-0-cust394.brig.cable.ntl.com) 21.36.59 # bluebrother: give me a mo to update and I'll test 21.38.40 # * BigBambi also has to go and get the wads :) 21.39.42 Join fml [0] (n=4fd3fd8c@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-c2d4473b38ab29c9) 21.40.10 # * fml wants to point the community at http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=16952.msg125812#msg125812 and bring up the discussion 21.40.44 # bluebrother: yes, it is fine 21.41.35 # close away 21.42.42 # Xqtftqx: we don't enable line out on the dac and i think the same goes for usb through the dock connector. 21.43.00 # Nico_P: the dev list has 444 subscribers atm 21.43.15 # not bead either 21.43.23 # *bad 21.43.30 # not at all, that's a large bunch 21.43.50 # That's five subscribers for every committer 21.44.30 # * BigBambi is one of those 21.44.50 # Not that I've ever sent anything, I could just as well read the archive on the site 21.44.57 # * gevaerts suspects that BigBambi is one of the 44 subscribers that aren't linked to a committer in that way :) 21.45.18 # BigBambi: thanks :) 21.45.52 # gevaerts: You mean you are rejecting our special bond? :( 21.46.05 # BigBambi: I could be wrong of course ;) 21.46.09 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 21.46.24 # gevaerts: tbh, I didn't quite understand what you meant 21.46.59 # There are 80 committers, so 5 subscribers per committer is 400 subscribers. That leaves 44 21.47.14 # aha 21.47.23 # yes, I'm one of the lost ones 21.49.48 # fml: I can see wanting to delete or rename the playing file for example 21.50.34 # BigBambi: but then you don't need "open with" ;-) 21.50.34 Quit mcuelenaere (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 21.50.48 # bluebrother: er, yes, good point 21.50.53 # bluebrother: exactly my thought. But aou're faster 21.51.03 # wouldn't it be better to just have an easy way to browse to the file? 21.51.13 # follow playlist :) 21.51.14 # i.e. like "browse to this file"? 21.51.28 # BigBambi: doesn't work for the database users ... 21.51.40 # bluebrother: ah, I forgot that, I never use the database 21.51.46 # well, in terms of "they won't go to the file browser" 21.51.59 # follow playlist itself should work just fine ;) 21.52.06 # * BigBambi needs to prioritise thinking over talking 21.52.16 # Is there a 'popup' menu in the database (like in the file browser)? 21.52.27 # fml: a context menu? 21.52.31 # there is a context menu, as in the file browser 21.52.42 # WIth "Open with..."? 21.53.21 # no, only "open with" 21.53.23 # but the context menu in the database contains only the playlist entry 21.53.28 # err, "playlist" 21.54.37 # bluebrother: why no "Open with"? 21.55.24 # fml: no idea 21.55.34 # They are also individual tracks so "Open with" would make sense IMHO 21.56.20 # But the thinking is the same: first you select a file and then do something with it. 21.57.42 # n1s: Why isnt it enabled 21.58.11 # Xqtftqx: it's a port in progress, it's not done yet... 21.58.20 # Xqtftqx: because the port is in the early stages, that isn't very important, and nobody has done it 21.58.24 # Xqtftqx: because it makes no sense without a line out jack :) 21.58.29 Join mcuelenaere [0] (n=mcuelena@rockbox/developer/mcuelenaere) 21.58.43 Quit mcuelenaere (Remote closed the connection) 21.58.47 # but seriously, what ^ they said i believe 21.58.53 Join mcuelenaere [0] (n=mcuelena@rockbox/developer/mcuelenaere) 21.59.01 # or that no one has a dock for the thing 21.59.11 Quit mcuelenaere (Remote closed the connection) 21.59.16 Join mcuelenaere [0] (n=mcuelena@rockbox/developer/mcuelenaere) 21.59.33 # Xqtftqx: get yourself a copy of the datasheet and start hacking! 21.59.43 # * BigBambi has some connectors for the beast accessories port courtesy of toffe82 22.00.03 # * bluebrother curses the number of different bootloader install methods 22.01.03 # n1s: where does the code for the context menu for the database reside? 22.01.05 # BigBambi: is there anything interesting that can be done through the dock connector? 22.01.19 # fml: I would look in onply.c 22.01.23 # n1s: Sorry, i though who ment "enabled" so it is there but disabled, sorry 22.01.24 # onplay.c 22.01.28 # n1s: for the S I'm not so sure - for the F/X (that it also fits), there is plenty 22.01.47 # n1s: I assume so too for the S, but I haven't seen any pinouts 22.01.50 # Isnt there a possibily of line in recording 22.02.36 # n1s: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/GigabeatCustomdock 22.02.52 # n1s: I'd like to add 'Open with' to the context menu of the database and remove it from the wps context menu 22.02.58 # Xqtftqx: the block diagram shows a line out connected to the dock connector, the only line in is connected to the fm chip though 22.03.23 # BigBambi: thanks, interesting stuff 22.03.30 # fml: ok... 22.03.51 # fml: 'Open with' is in the wps context menu for a reason... 22.04.24 # It allows to open the currently playing track in a plugin, e.g. the spliteditor 22.04.58 # n1s: Is it possible to come in from the fm chip and have rockbox read it? 22.05.07 # amiconn: yes, but that's almost the only plugin that can be used at that point. 22.05.25 # Xqtftqx: i don't understand the question 22.05.34 # amiconn: in that case, I'd treat is specially -- e.g. like "Add to fovourites" 22.05.50 # fml: you can also use it for 'properties' 22.05.55 # Right now, yes. But there's nothing that prevents other plugins to be started from there, e.g. a tag editor 22.06.03 # n1s: for line in, can rockbox read the fm chip input? 22.06.13 # n1s: isn't there 'Show id3 info' already? 22.06.22 # The fm chip input is called an "antenna" 22.06.26 # Xqtftqx: not currently but that is how fm radio is supposed to work 22.06.58 # fm puts out an analog signal into the codec which outputs it to the headphone jack (through hp amp) 22.07.15 # hmmm, maybe making the fm radio think its the radio, but its the line in 22.07.16 # fml: yes, but that doesn't show the same info 22.07.40 # Xqtftqx: that would require hw mods 22.09.07 # realy? the headphones work as a antena, but the recorder takes in the input from the headphone jack(where the fm frequency comes in), which is the line in, and the 22.09.21 # Xqtftqx: recording from radio should be possible if that is what you are asking (he says without checking the hardware - I'd be mightily surprised if you couldn't) 22.09.35 # Xqtftqx: It doesn't work that way 22.09.37 # Xqtftqx: antenna != line in 22.09.47 # Oh 22.10.01 # dont the headphones function as the antenna? 22.10.03 # petur: no i didn't 22.10.25 # n1s: but still most plugins are not applicable which renders the option almost useless. And if you want to see the properties (as in plugin) you can use the context mnu of the browser 22.10.25 # Xqtftqx: functioning as an antenna is in no way the same as a line in 22.10.29 # No. The ground of the headphone cable functions as the antenna 22.10.31 # you could input a signal using an fm (de)modulator (don't remember what you call them but the quality would probably suffer 22.10.38 Quit perrikwp ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") 22.11.05 # Antenna brings things in, the same with line in 22.11.24 # .... 22.11.25 # fml: yes but then you need to browse to the file, and with that reasoning we could remove almost all of the menu because the functionality is available elsewhere 22.11.31 # So does a postman... 22.11.39 # Xqtftqx: In no way in the same way 22.12.04 # Alright, 22.12.34 # * amiconn recommends Xqtftqx to look up the very basics of electronics, e.g. the difference between HF and NF, what FM means etc 22.12.53 # Sorry, i was confused, im more of a software guy 22.13.23 # n1s: also true. I'm frustrated by the fact that just one or two plugins/viewers can be applied. And also that they are not sorted alphabetically 22.13.50 Join tvelocity [0] (n=tony@athedsl-120943.home.otenet.gr) 22.13.55 Quit krazykit` (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 22.13.59 # i understand now it doesnt use the line out signal as the attena, it uses the ground 22.14.32 # fml: IMHO a bette rthing would be to implement some kind of filtering of the viewers list as it has become pretty long and as you say most viewers make no sense in most contexts 22.14.34 # n1s: for example, both 'view_shortcuts' and 'append_shortcut' are listed 22.14.37 # Xqtftqx: just imagine ... line in is a signal coming from a wire. FM (i.e. radio) comes from the air ... there _must_ be a major difference, mustn't it? 22.15.05 # i understand now, thanks 22.15.27 Join tvelocity_ [0] (n=tony@athedsl-4410429.home.otenet.gr) 22.15.35 # n1s: should we introduce 'supported extensions' for the viewers? 22.16.12 # That would be something for jdgordon! :-) 22.16.17 # fml: maybe that's a good solution 22.16.37 # fml: that is a pretty nice idea 22.16.41 # We have this now but in the other direction (extension->viewer) 22.16.51 # I definitely like the jdgordon part of the proposal ;) 22.17.06 # n1s: In particular, or just the someone else part :) 22.17.08 # Could the same file (viewers.config?) be used to deduce that? 22.17.12 # bah 22.17.27 # * preglow doesn't like duplicate code 22.17.45 Quit merbanan (Remote closed the connection) 22.17.59 # * would mean 'every extension' 22.18.17 # theres not that many 22.18.37 # (considering i have a lot of spare time) 22.19.59 # n1s: I think the information in viewers.config should be enough to filter the viewers list shown after 'Open with...' What do you think? 22.20.42 # n1s, fml: It is intentional that 'Open with...' show all viewer plugins independent of file extension 22.20.45 # fml: I haven't thought about it that much but it sounds like a good idea to me :) 22.20.53 # It's much more flexible this way 22.21.00 # i would hate limiting them to extensions 22.21.09 # amiconn: maybe flexible but still annoying 22.21.15 # annoying? 22.21.15 # the open with is exactly for overriding existing extensions 22.21.36 # amiconn: you mean as it is now? 22.21.43 # well, ok then, how about filtering when opened from the wps? 22.21.50 # fml: yes. 22.21.54 # n1s: why?? 22.22.01 # only and keep it as is in the fiel browser 22.22.05 Nick fxb is now known as fxb__ (n=felixbru@h1252615.stratoserver.net) 22.22.23 # I mean of course only the WPS context menu 22.22.35 # amiconn: because there is a big list of things that make no sense to open a music file with in that list 22.22.46 # In the file browser, all viewers should be displayed. You're right bagder 22.23.23 # I can see how it could make sense to limit the scope somewhat in the wps, but I can't say that I feel the work and extra code would be worth it 22.24.11 # that's because it wouldn't 22.26.18 # n1s: isn't there a similar problem in onplay code like one you've fixed recently? What if you're in the wps context menu and the track changes? I mean onplay.c:1187 22.27.57 # Bagder: the point in the WPS menu is IMHO that you can quickly do something sensible with the playing song. And that's only possible if the list is reasonably short and contains only items that really work with the file 22.28.40 # yes, I understand what your point is 22.28.57 # fml: a problem similar to what? 22.29.01 # my position still stands though 22.30.02 # n1s: IIRC a bug was fixed recenly. You could delete a wrong file or something like that. 22.30.04 Quit Horscht (Remote closed the connection) 22.30.18 Quit tvelocity (Connection timed out) 22.30.36 # fml: ah, no idea 22.30.39 # If the track changed while you're in the menu. I should look it up in the recent commits 22.30.59 Join Horscht [0] (n=Horscht@xbmc/user/horscht) 22.31.57 # fml: but since we are only supposed to use the menu for splitedit ( ;-) ) i think people will enter it while listening to a track and not in the transition... 22.35.39 Join Hilikus [0] (n=ROCKERO@69.157.170.238) 22.37.34 # hey guys, has any of you heard reports or bug fixes of repeated songs in a normal folder play? the WPS shows the song it is actually playing (the one that is repeating by mistake) and if you go to the file selection it shows the song it is actually playing BUT if you go to the playlist it shows its playing the song it SHOULD be playing but not the one it is actually playing 22.39.17 Join krazykit [0] (n=kkit@adsl-99-155-239-212.dsl.ipltin.sbcglobal.net) 22.42.58 Join TheNumber [0] (n=thenumbe@41.226.5.198) 22.45.28 Quit n1s () 22.45.47 # Hilikus: I've head of that issue a couple of times but I thought it's fixed. Do you have a recent build? 22.46.17 # no, thats why i was asking, to decide if i should bother to upgrade or not. my build is at least 6 months old 22.46.27 # but now that u said that i will update 22.46.31 # that's ages ... 22.46.32 # n1s: and editing a file is better accomplished on a PC 22.46.50 # thanks a lot bluebrother 22.46.51 # if you have issues you should always update first. You can always go back (simply backup the .rockbox folder) 22.46.56 # oh ok 22.46.59 # good to know 22.47.07 # Hello !!! 22.47.18 # that folder also contains your settings ... 22.47.32 # so nothing to fear about ;-) 22.47.35 # Hilikus: There are multiple builds per day, with issues being fixed all the time - looking for bugs in old code that may have been fixed isn't much fun 22.48.28 # oh, and we have a new default theme. 22.48.43 # i have it already, unless it was changed 22.48.52 # the yellow one? 22.48.57 # and black 22.49.03 # yes, its pretty cool 22.49.14 # yellow? It's black and white here *g* 22.50.09 # or red and black? 22.50.22 # hehe ... sometimes. 22.50.56 # * bluebrother considers getting a color target 22.51.05 # can somebody tell me how you view/edit bdf fonts? 22.51.17 # petur: you can use fontforge 22.51.17 # * gevaerts wants to know where bluebrother found a white screen 22.51.27 Join TaylorKillian [0] (n=Administ@wl198118.wright.edu) 22.51.57 # gevaerts: while the mini's backlight is blue it's a rather light blue. So it's kinda white 22.52.22 # the mini's backlight is blue? 22.52.54 Join kennyj [0] (i=kennyj@kyogi.net) 22.52.55 # is the album art resizing the pics or it's still todo? 22.53.01 # todo 22.53.02 # bluebrother: thanks, installing it now... 22.53.07 # ok 22.54.56 Quit kennyj_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 22.55.30 # petur: I used fontforge too though it sometimes annoyed me be scrapping my "encoding" lines, sometimes even only half of them, sometimes everything worked correctly... 22.55.38 # s/be/by 22.56.03 Join Arathis2 [0] (n=doerk@p508A3A9C.dip.t-dialin.net) 22.56.10 # I just want to check something regarding 9022 22.56.17 Quit Arathis2 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 22.58.09 # I'd guess that's more related to viewportification of the quickscreen (?) 22.58.23 Join shift_ [0] (n=shift@c211-28-56-74.frank1.vic.optusnet.com.au) 22.59.17 # I thought somehow that those arrows are icons and not related to a font 22.59.47 # hmm you're right.... silly me 23.00.01 # hello.. UISimulator... is a simulator, not an emulator right (i.e. it would not run the apple firmware through rolo, would it?) 23.00.26 # shift_: correct 23.00.32 # It is a SIM not EM 23.00.59 # =( ok 23.01.02 # pixelma: I saw them change when I changed font so my first thought was that they came from the font. Should have checked the code first... 23.01.42 # shift_: there is an arm emulator in svn though it's more dedicated to the sansa (and not complete at all) 23.02.10 # petur: maybe that's an issue that's most visible with some font sizes? 23.02.10 # and there is a GSOC project for an arm emulator 23.02.30 # pixelma: indeed 23.02.48 # only visible with some (1?) font 23.03.47 # the font on the picture looks more like nedore-9 (or -8) to me but it's quite blurry 23.04.40 # nope, nedore 8 & 9 are ok 23.04.54 # thanks 23.05.01 # but I can reproduce with starmap 23.05.12 Quit bertrik (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 23.07.21 # but starmap looks way differently, maybe it's even related to font and screen size? Unfortunately I can't check - the Ondio doesn't have the quickscreen 23.07.24 # * bluebrother does some preparation work 23.08.08 Join bertrik [0] (n=bertrik@180-013-045-062.dynamic.caiway.nl) 23.08.55 # pixelma: I think I already found the bug. if no scrolling it doesn't reserve space for the icons. It only does when calculating for the scrolling case. 23.09.03 # * petur goes fixing 23.09.47 # nice :) 23.11.54 Quit Arathis (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 23.12.01 Join Arathis [0] (n=doerk@p508A7848.dip.t-dialin.net) 23.12.14 # * petur discovers the fix is way simpler than he thought 23.17.28 Quit TaylorKillian (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 23.22.03 Join homielowe [0] (n=eric_j_l@d205-250-152-29.bchsia.telus.net) 23.24.59 Quit fml ("CGI:IRC") 23.25.59 Quit Mouser_X (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 23.33.53 Quit davina (Remote closed the connection) 23.35.40 Quit Xqtftqx ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") 23.36.35 Join Davide-NYC [0] (n=chatzill@user-0cev9vm.cable.mindspring.com) 23.38.02 # Please stop scolding me like a child. Re-read my comments and realize I agree with all responses written *except* that I do not need to police my language. This is not Disney and the word "crappy" is not that strong. 23.38.21 Quit Davide-NYC (Client Quit) 23.39.04 # * Bagder blinks 23.39.22 # There was nothing wrong with the language (IMO), just the sentiment 23.46.14 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 23.46.22 Join Luis [0] (n=4b4a1a57@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-af405be0b5a991c2) 23.46.30 # Hello 23.46.35 # Yo 23.46.55 # Hello? 23.47.12 # Hi Luis 23.47.32 # Hi 23.47.39 # I just installed rockbox 23.47.46 # and everything went great 23.47.54 # however, I found a small problem 23.48.13 # I installed rockbox in my Ipod video 23.48.37 # and I use an JBL speaker with a dock for the Ipod 23.48.57 # it has a remote that allows you to change the tracks and play/pause as well 23.49.12 # those work fine with the apple firmeware 23.49.37 # is there a way to patch rockbox to make this work? 23.49.40 Join SgtPnkks [0] (n=YourMom@74-137-160-38.dhcp.insightbb.com) 23.49.41 # Luis: Please try not to use the enter key as punctuation :) 23.49.50 # sorry 23.50.08 # Luis: There is a work in progress patch for support of accessories, but it is not complete 23.50.12 # JZ4730: http://www.ingenic.cn/eng/productServ/App/JZ4730/pfCustomPage.aspx & http://www.ingenic.cn/eng/productServ/clqDownload/lipContents.aspx doesn't this seem a nice target to develop on? :) only disadvantage is the slow chinese FTP 23.50.19 # question... just rockboxed my e280 and i want to transfer some ogg and musepack files... it won't let me 23.50.20 # oh I know nothing about that, but maybe someone else here does 23.50.38 # SgtPnkks: Then you're not in MSC mode. 23.50.39 # SgtPnkks: It is in MSC mode? If so, just copy and paste... 23.50.41 # SgtPnkks: use the USB mode from the original firmware to transfer files 23.51.02 Join simonrvn_ [0] (i=simon@unaffiliated/simonrvn) 23.51.07 # so i put them somewhere other than the music folder? 23.51.33 # I see. Is the patch usable although unstable? 23.51.59 # * petur wonders what's up with the ZVM delta... got some buffer on a 2K boundary or what? 23.52.11 # SgtPnkks: AFAIK, it doesn't really matter for rockbox where you put your music files 23.52.19 # Luis: No, it is incomplete from what I understand 23.52.22 # Luis: V 23.52.25 # dammit 23.52.26 # ah there it goes 23.52.29 # Luis: http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/8624 23.52.55 # SgtPnkks: be aware that everytime you boot the OF, it will hide the music folder 23.53.03 # Thank you. 23.53.08 # i'm so glad woot sent me a v1 and not a v2 23.53.10 Quit petur ("Zzzzz") 23.53.11 # So either use a different folder, or set Rockbox to show all files 23.53.14 # SgtPnkks: amen 23.53.16 # all my music is encoded in musepack 23.54.00 # petur: I don't know what's going on, especially since the ZVM60GB is unaltered; probably just a bad compile.. 23.54.06 # (for the logs) 23.54.49 # Luis: there is also http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/WebHome?topic=IpodAccessories 23.55.29 Join ctaylorr [0] (n=ctaylorr@bas1-toronto43-1279529390.dsl.bell.ca)