--- Log for 27.05.108 Server: leguin.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: @logbot_ Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 24 days and 10 hours ago 00.00.13 Join linuxstb__ [0] (n=linuxstb@rockbox/developer/linuxstb) 00.12.45 # incompatible model usually means the plugin is for a different target 00.13.46 # well it was build in the same make command as all my other working plugins 00.13.47 # Hmm, that actually sounds like a useful extension for disktidy - cleaning up the mess of the respective OF 00.14.06 # i erased all my .rockbox stuff and build directory files to make sure 00.14.23 Quit linuxstb_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00.14.25 # amiconn: yup, especially when you use the apple firmware all the time to get decent USB support :) 00.14.38 # (I'm using that plugin as autostart.rock) 00.14.39 # I just use emergency disk mode 00.14.45 # it's slower 00.14.51 # Not on mini G2 00.14.55 # ah :) 00.15.48 # anyway, I was wondering if i'm missing some new required include/macro call/something that might scare rockbox when it tries runing the plugin 00.19.21 # In fact I use rockbox usb most of the time; edm for charging and only occasionally for data transfer 00.19.46 Join amaldo [0] (n=maldonad@pdpc/supporter/student/amaldo) 00.20.11 # The drawback is that it only works on the root ports and that there's sometimes a bus reset causing a few seconds delay, but apart from that it's working fine 00.20.34 # I had some partition corruptions a few days ago using the rockbox usb 00.24.13 Quit dabujo ("( www.nnscript.com :: NoNameScript 4.2 :: www.regroup-esports.com )") 00.24.48 Quit gregzx ("ChatZilla 0.9.82.1 [Firefox 2.0.0.14/2008040413]") 00.26.57 Join dan_a [0] (n=dan-mirc@217.23.173.156) 00.28.55 Quit ender` (" There is no reason anyone would want a computer in their home." -- Ken Olson, president, chairman and founder of DEC") 00.30.09 Quit DerDome (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00.31.30 Join Xqtftqx [0] (i=4cbd373c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-fd92db717b1c69a8) 00.32.30 # guys my gigabeat's hard drive wont show up under My Computer 00.33.01 # its in usb mode 00.33.43 # and i can see the firmware partion 00.37.07 Join Shaid [0] (n=adam@dsl-202-45-112-116-static.VIC.netspace.net.au) 00.40.50 Quit Xqtftqx ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") 00.45.37 Quit moos (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00.46.28 Quit Nico_P (Remote closed the connection) 00.49.40 Quit stripwax (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 00.53.58 Join saratoga [0] (n=9803c6dd@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-cc5d249adc9870a0) 00.54.50 Join saratoga2 [0] (n=9803c6dd@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-0b8c6d20e8cf02c5) 00.58.26 Quit herrwaldo ("Konversation terminated!") 00.59.00 Join PaulJam_ [0] (i=PaulJam_@vpn-3025.gwdg.de) 00.59.24 Quit saratoga ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)") 01.09.05 Quit knittl (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 01.10.35 Join moos [0] (i=moos@m198.net81-66-127.noos.fr) 01.14.17 Quit moos (Client Quit) 01.17.09 Quit PaulJam (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 01.17.32 Quit DerPapst (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 01.17.39 Join linuxstb_ [0] (n=linuxstb@rockbox/developer/linuxstb) 01.21.04 # any reason to believe there is line-in on the Sansa dock connector? 01.25.50 # there's a thread about the dock connector for the e200s on ABI. Doesn't mention line in at all. 01.26.25 Quit obo ("bye") 01.31.17 Quit linuxstb__ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 01.32.31 # Yea, but I was under the impression most knowledge on the hardware capabilities of the Sansas had trickled into the wild through Rockbox. 01.38.57 Quit roolku () 01.42.57 Quit dan_a (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 01.48.00 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 01.49.43 Quit Seed (Nick collision from services.) 01.49.49 Join Seedy [0] (i=ben@bzq-84-108-237-178.cablep.bezeqint.net) 01.55.52 Join goffa_ [0] (n=goffa@216.220.23.105) 02.01.11 Nick fxb is now known as fxb__ (n=felixbru@h1252615.stratoserver.net) 02.09.21 Quit goffa (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 02.09.35 Quit GaryOaks () 02.16.08 Join webguest46 [0] (n=a398666f@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-4254dd6250ac917e) 02.18.40 Join webguest23 [0] (n=a398666f@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-3c2b1b187d6e2422) 02.18.40 Quit webguest46 (Client Quit) 02.18.53 Join entropy8 [0] (i=4b6aa9bb@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-cf389d72cff66dd4) 02.21.46 # hello all, i am using an 80GB ipod video with rockbox Version: r15589-071111 but am having some trouble playing an ogg video file, can someone help? 02.22.28 # first off, you are using a very old version...secondly, rockbox doesnt play "ogg video" 02.22.47 Join cool_walking_ [0] (n=notroot@203-59-129-195.perm.iinet.net.au) 02.23.21 # i see, so 2 questions then, how often should i probably update my version of rockbox? and does rockbox only support mpeg 1 and 2 video? 02.24.42 # yes, only MPEG1/2 - see PluginMpegplayer wiki page. Update whenever you want - you can keep an eye on the changes and update for new features you like, or just update monthly, or whatever. 02.25.11 # thank you cool_walking_ much appreciated 02.25.14 # as often as you feel necessary (pay attention to the MajorChanges wiki page, however when asking for support, make sure you are running the current build....and he answered the second question 02.25.35 # thanks to you also scorche 02.25.59 Part entropy8 02.26.30 Part pixelma 02.26.56 Quit homielowe () 02.31.12 Join HP_Administrator [0] (n=chatzill@bas2-ottawa23-1128732081.dsl.bell.ca) 02.31.17 # Hello 02.34.35 Quit culture (No route to host) 02.35.26 # hello 02.36.02 Quit webguest23 ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 02.45.51 Quit csc` (Remote closed the connection) 02.48.57 Join csc` [0] (n=csc@archlinux/user/csc) 02.52.09 Join AmonB [0] (n=R@abo-162-22-69.bdx.modulonet.fr) 02.52.17 # hi everyone 02.55.17 Quit AmonB (Client Quit) 02.59.01 Join zeno_ [0] (n=andrew@c-75-70-202-80.hsd1.co.comcast.net) 02.59.07 Quit zeno (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 03.14.11 Join TaylorKillian [0] (n=Administ@wl198118.wright.edu) 03.24.03 # Is "assume no format tag = soundtracker" the right way to solve the soundtracker problem? 03.28.23 Join linuxstb__ [0] (n=linuxstb@rockbox/developer/linuxstb) 03.29.28 Quit HP_Administrator ("ChatZilla 0.9.82.1 [Firefox 3.0/2008051206]") 03.37.45 Quit PaulJam_ (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 03.41.06 Quit linuxstb_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 03.45.25 Quit Thundercloud (Remote closed the connection) 03.46.18 Join goffa [0] (n=goffa@216.220.23.105) 03.46.40 Quit goffa_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 03.48.02 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 03.50.34 Join Makuseru [0] (n=max@163.106.40.24.aeneasdsl.com) 03.50.59 Quit MethoS_ (Remote closed the connection) 03.55.08 Quit crope` ("Leaving") 04.04.38 Quit jeffdameth (No route to host) 04.07.20 Join jeffdameth [0] (n=jeff@dyndsl-080-228-180-045.ewe-ip-backbone.de) 04.07.44 Join iamabple [0] (n=a398666f@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-870bfedee237132e) 04.11.44 Quit TaylorKillian (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 04.21.52 Join JdGordon|uni [0] (i=768adc88@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-3beaca0e5fb9bb03) 04.23.08 Join jhulst [0] (n=jhulst@unaffiliated/jhulst) 04.24.00 # in quickscreen, pressing 'UP' doesn't select previous value. Isn't it a bug? 04.24.30 # yep 04.29.15 # okay, but QS_UP is not yet implemented, so i felt weird that 'Down' and 'Up' does the same thing. 04.38.08 # and one more thing:in option_select,c, option_select_next_val() seems to call a callback with an old value.. 04.38.23 # doesn't seems to causing a bug, but.. 04.39.40 # which callback? 04.40.17 # * JdGordon|uni needs to check the code... will do that tonight maybe 04.40.50 # option_callback, when 'apply' is true 04.41.52 # JdGordon|uni: Up is supposed to leave the quickscreen. 04.41.57 # Not select the previous value. 04.42.10 # Well, it depends on target, at least 04.42.28 Quit JdGordon|uni ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") 04.46.58 # who should i be talking to about questions with how the sim actually works? 04.47.16 Join miepchen^schlaf_ [0] (n=miepchen@p54BF7F9B.dip.t-dialin.net) 04.53.01 Join Shaid3 [0] (n=adam@dsl-202-45-112-116-static.VIC.netspace.net.au) 04.54.05 Quit fdinel ("Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org") 04.54.58 Quit miepchen^schlaf (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 04.57.11 Join linuxstb_ [0] (n=linuxstb@rockbox/developer/linuxstb) 05.05.02 Join mackes [0] (n=root@cpe-24-198-43-238.buffalo.res.rr.com) 05.08.00 Join homielowe [0] (n=eric_j_l@d205-250-152-29.bchsia.telus.net) 05.08.47 Quit linuxstb__ (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 05.09.30 Quit Shaid (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 05.09.31 Nick Shaid3 is now known as Shaid (n=adam@dsl-202-45-112-116-static.VIC.netspace.net.au) 05.17.04 Quit Horschti ("I got raided by the FBI and all i got is this lousy quit message") 05.18.23 Join Shaid3 [0] (n=adam@dsl-202-45-112-116-static.VIC.netspace.net.au) 05.18.41 Join TaylorKillian [0] (n=Administ@wl198118.wright.edu) 05.18.59 Quit iamabple ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 05.27.16 Quit jhulst ("Konversation terminated!") 05.30.34 Join JdGordon|uni [0] (i=768ae258@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-861957a21cc9b32c) 05.31.03 # saratoga2: depends on which part... 05.40.25 Quit Shaid (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 05.40.25 Nick Shaid3 is now known as Shaid (n=adam@dsl-202-45-112-116-static.VIC.netspace.net.au) 05.41.51 # JdGordon|uni: I'm not really sure what parts of the firmware folder get replaced by the stuff in uisimulator 05.42.00 # its not really clear to me how all of this fits together 05.42.52 # the Makefile is probabl;y the best place to start.. that will at least show the obviously non sim files... 05.43.39 # coming up on 11h30, give or take. Almost done with the second symphony of the second pass through the 10-symphony, 10h05 playlist 05.44.02 Quit mackes ("I'm quiting for now.") 05.45.17 Join nuonguy [0] (n=john@c-24-6-175-26.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) 05.48.06 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 05.52.46 Quit nplus (Remote closed the connection) 05.52.47 Join linuxstb__ [0] (n=linuxstb@rockbox/developer/linuxstb) 05.53.38 Quit scorche (Nick collision from services.) 05.54.26 Join scorche` [50] (n=scorche@rockbox/administrator/scorche) 05.56.26 # Dhraakellian: thats for what? 05.56.43 # battery runtime test, q6 Vorbis 05.56.49 # on what? 05.56.54 # ah, right 05.56.57 # sansa e200 05.57.10 # should get little over 12 on a e200 05.57.24 # actually.. 13 if your lucky 05.57.34 # goingg by my tests a while ago :p 05.57.47 # http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/SansaRuntime 05.57.55 # says something a bit longer, iirc 05.58.28 # did you get a chance to do the OF? 05.58.43 Quit csc` (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 05.58.57 # crikey.. 20h! 05.59.03 # * JdGordon|uni must have done it ages ago 05.59.04 # an e280 got 15-18h in late January using q8 05.59.19 # JdGordon|uni: but that's with FLAC 05.59.30 # true 05.59.32 # and, iirc, FLAC has the reputation of being extremely fast 05.59.42 # Vorbis, notsomuch 05.59.45 # the slow mp3 decoder on arm hurts battery life quite a bit on flash targets 06.00.21 # saratoga2: so you think I'll get shorter runtime when I do the V2 test? 06.00.31 # yes 06.00.45 # hmm... actually, V2 might well be higher bitrate than q6 anyway 06.00.48 # something like 2.4ma extra or so to decode V2 verses 200kbps Vorbis 06.00.55 # in terms of ABR, at least 06.01.05 # vorbis is getting close to running unboosted on PP 06.01.11 # *blink* 06.01.14 # unboosted? 06.01.50 Quit Makuseru (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 06.01.58 # should I upgrade to the latest version of the OF for the comparison with the V2? 06.02.22 # if you want 06.02.26 # i doubt it makes a big difference 06.03.06 # i'd actually expect vorbis to give better results then a comparable bitrate mp3 in the retail firmware 06.03.39 # and it looks like the OF actually has shorter battery life even for the same mp3 settings 06.03.42 # from the chart 06.03.55 # I decided to leave replaygain off 06.04.06 Quit n17ikh (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 06.04.26 # and -25dB really isn't well suited to environments with much noise at all 06.04.34 # replaygain isn't going to do anything 06.04.41 Join n17ikh [0] (n=n17ikh@c-76-23-106-132.hsd1.sc.comcast.net) 06.04.45 # I wouldn't want to listen to this outside 06.04.59 # so volume has little to no effect on battery life, then? 06.05.23 # it might have a tiny unmeasurable effect... 06.05.27 # the only non-default setting I have is that scrobbling was enabled 06.05.35 # on a flash-based player 06.05.35 Join Acamo [0] (n=4c5cb3d1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-ad5093d32bf6d0bd) 06.05.43 # hello? 06.05.48 # scrobbling will cause a bit more disk activity, but again, on flash, not much probably 06.05.51 # good to know about volume, though 06.06.04 # i think the DAC uses something like 2 ma when i tested 06.06.12 # though i didn't try adjusting the volume 06.06.38 # can i bug some one on the IRC with a question? 06.06.46 Quit linuxstb_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 06.06.46 # I figured that since the battery bench plugin was writing out to the flash every so often, a little scrobbling wouldn't hurt much more 06.06.57 # Acamo: dont ask to ask... just ask 06.06.57 # i guess in theory it can probably use a fair amoutn more, since they claim 2x 40mw amps 06.07.13 # ok 06.07.26 # Dhraakellian: you modified batt bench to work right? 06.07.37 # its bugged on flash targets 06.07.43 # i think thats fixed now 06.08.00 # oh? 06.08.02 # im trying to use the ipodpatcher to patch the bootloader so i can boot rock box but it keeps telling me that it cannot find the ipod 06.08.08 # JdGordon|uni: I didn't actually make any changes, given that there's a suggestion on the bug report that it be closed 06.08.16 # ok then 06.08.19 # Acamo: which ipod? 06.08.27 # 5g black ipod video 06.08.32 # 80g 06.08.44 # Acamo: are you sure it is not a classic? 06.08.47 Nick scorche` is now known as scorche (n=scorche@rockbox/administrator/scorche) 06.08.56 # "2008-04-11: A task closure has been requested. Reason for request: i think, that my batt_bench_v3 patch solves problem and also improves working under other (hdd based too) devices" -- http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/8070 06.09.04 # prety sure 06.09.35 # clasic didn't have video play back, and ive been watchign futurama on mine 06.09.51 # classic is the new ipod, and yes it supports video 06.10.00 # look on apple's website and figure out which one you have 06.10.01 # Dhraakellian: that closrure request is an odd way of saying "commit me.." its not saying the bug is fixed 06.10.13 # oh well i will try that 06.10.19 # JdGordon|uni: ah, okay. 06.10.30 # Acamo: does it looks like this? http://www.sakavan.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/10/ipod-classic-dimensions.jpg 06.10.44 # JdGordon|uni: well, at the worst, I'll have to sit through yet another day of Bruckner symphonies 06.10.53 # oh. poor. me. 06.10.54 # :) 06.11.06 # yes it looks exactly liek that, 06.11.24 # then i guess you don't have a 5G 06.11.24 # then it is not a 5g...it is a 6g otherwise known as the classic 06.11.38 # hmm 06.11.51 # JdGordon|uni: even if it is still affected by the bug, the battery benchmark will still give the total runtime, will it not? 06.12.05 # not sure... 06.12.07 # i wonder if ipodpatcher could be made to say "this is an ipod classic, don't ask for help" 06.12.18 # saratoga2: it would be nice... 06.12.20 # does the newer ipods all have different usb id's? 06.12.39 # so then there is no hope of me getting rockbox or even ipodlinux onto it 06.12.47 # bingo 06.12.54 # well.. not any time soon 06.12.55 # Acamo: not now, at least 06.13.04 # that realy blows 06.13.10 # donate it to a willing developer? 06.13.15 # Acamo: wait a sec though... you on linux? 06.13.22 # xubuntu 06.13.23 Quit miepchen^schlaf_ () 06.13.41 # Acamo: can you do sudo lsusb and show us the line for the ipod? 06.13.55 # sudo lsusb 06.13.59 # ok i will 06.15.44 # here we go| Bus 002 Device 015: ID 05ac:1261 Apple Computer,Inc. 06.16.02 # ok, thanks 06.16.09 # thats definatly a classic... 06.16.16 # * JdGordon|uni found the wiki page he was after 06.16.40 # are you guys developers? 06.16.43 # anyone else think ipodpatcher should say something like "an apple device has been found, but its not a known device, which means its not supported" 06.17.03 # yes 06.17.14 # that sounds like a useful message 06.17.33 Join csc` [0] (n=csc@archlinux/user/csc) 06.17.43 # "abandone hope of installign rockbox now and dont waste the rest of the day trying to fix it" would be a bit more fittign for me 06.17.49 # saratoga2: ha, just saw you suggested the same thing :) 06.17.56 # heh. 06.18.13 # * Dhraakellian really wouldn't have minded rockbox on teh soufflé 06.18.34 # does ipod patcher really check the usbids? 06.18.46 # i thought it was based on reading hte file system 06.19.06 # any devs out there who would want to work on a port to the old 0.5GB iPod Shuffles if only they actually had one? 06.19.30 # I still haven't quite decided what to do with teh Soufflé, now that I replaced it with the Sansa 06.19.30 # saratoga2: i'm not sure about ipod/sansa patcher, but rbutil does go of usb ids 06.19.37 # patchers could also 06.19.45 # Dhraakellian, as i recall, the shuffles are based on the sigmatel SOC, which does not have a free compiler 06.19.52 # ah, okay 06.20.03 Join Igbothom [0] (n=Hilton@office.quarkgroup.com.au) 06.20.10 # hmm 06.20.15 # mind you, shuffles would be an interesting target... 100% voice driven 06.20.15 # morn/evening all 06.20.24 # yeah 06.20.37 # which is why I really wouldn't have minded having rockbox on the thing 06.20.44 # have an issue with a Sansa E260 not wanting to boot back to the original firmware, therefore cannot ad/remove songs 06.20.52 # so how coudl i help in posibly ading support for the clasic? 06.20.55 # krazykit: same with the new ones? 06.21.10 # Igbothom: whats the problem? fades to white/black? 06.21.21 # Acamo: break the encryption, reverse engineer the OF 06.21.22 # Igbothom: check the wiki page for e200, theres instructions on how to fix a broken retail firmware 06.21.58 # Dhraakellian, if the new ones are different, i'd guess they're using the samsung SOC like the classics and nanos, but this is just speculation. i'd think the correct information is floating around somewhere 06.22.18 # jdgordon|uni and saratoga2 thanks - looking on the wiki now 06.22.51 # Doesn't Cowon also make a screenless player? I think I've seen a couple of my friends with little yellow things. 06.23.20 # * JdGordon|uni heading home 06.23.26 Quit JdGordon|uni ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") 06.26.27 Quit saratoga2 ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)") 06.27.45 # ok 06.28.17 # i will keep this user name goign to sleep now have work to do 06.31.00 Join raph1 [0] (n=raphi@pub082136112135.dh-hfc.datazug.ch) 06.39.42 Join einhirn_ [0] (n=Miranda@p5B030DF8.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 06.41.47 Quit einhirn_ (Client Quit) 06.48.13 Part raph1 06.53.13 Join GloomeRy [0] (n=GloomeRy@gloomery.kraslan.ru) 06.56.21 Nick JdGordon|zzz is now known as JdGordon (i=jonno@rockbox/developer/JdGordon) 07.06.51 Quit Acamo ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 07.13.39 Join linuxstb_ [0] (n=linuxstb@rockbox/developer/linuxstb) 07.15.56 Part toffe82 07.18.52 Join LinusN [0] (n=linus@rockbox/developer/LinusN) 07.26.40 Join lobf [0] (n=chatzill@ppp-69-236-48-49.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) 07.26.44 Quit BHSPitLappy ("Ex-Chat") 07.26.53 # hey there 07.27.25 # can anyone tell me why this thing has to catalogue my entire library whenever i select a song on shuffle? 07.27.45 Quit linuxstb__ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 07.28.02 # like, i want it to shuffle through my library, but if i think of a song i want to hear, i want it to play right then, not after it counts 6700 other songs 07.28.05 Quit m0f0x (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 07.29.20 # it doesnt... 07.29.50 # what have i done then? 07.30.40 # im not sure... youve got the database enabled, but I'm not really sure what your issue is 07.31.45 # perhaps i'll ask the forum 07.31.54 # you have any idea at all? 07.32.56 # yeah, your doing it wrong.... if you just want to ad a song to the playlist hold select on the song and go playlist > queue/insert next 07.33.55 Quit jhMikeS (Nick collision from services.) 07.33.57 # i was just selecting from my tracks menu 07.34.01 Join jhMikeS [50] (n=jethead7@rockbox/developer/jhMikeS) 07.34.15 Join m0f0x [0] (n=m0f0x@189-47-3-121.dsl.telesp.net.br) 07.34.37 # yes, doing that creates a new playlist and starts playng the track you selected 07.34.45 # thats why its scanning the files 07.35.28 # ah 07.35.57 # okay, but because of that you have to choose what you want to listen to beforehand if you don't want big pauses between songs 07.36.02 # or you can do party mode 07.36.06 # right? 07.36.08 # no 07.36.16 # JdGordon> yeah, your doing it wrong.... if you just want to ad a song to the playlist hold select on the song and go playlist > queue/insert next 07.36.42 # i read that... 07.36.49 # so do that then 07.37.11 # do i add my entire library to a playlist? 07.37.19 # if you like 07.37.19 # no.. 07.37.27 # because i want it to play through my whole library until i select a song specifically 07.37.37 # er, shuffle through my library 07.37.42 # lobf: whenever you are listening to music you are using a playlist 07.38.08 # do you understand what i'm trying to do? 07.38.35 # listen to everything shuffled then go to t apsecific song 07.38.47 # yes 07.38.58 # there you go then 07.39.45 # goodness, i was totally reading that wrong 07.39.48 # sorry, i see now 07.40.25 # oh, the battery's on it's last legs, but i'm playing it plugged into the computer and it keeps shutting off from low battery 07.44.10 # even though it's plugged in 07.48.07 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 07.52.31 Join theFATMAN [0] (n=aaron@76.7.180.127) 07.55.53 Part Igbothom ("Leaving") 07.56.19 # can i install rockbox on a sony walkman? model# NWZ S16F 07.57.08 # no 07.59.12 # JdGordon, in the future? 07.59.33 # who knows? 07.59.49 Part theFATMAN ("Ex-Chat") 08.00.14 Nick linuxstb_ is now known as linuxstb (n=linuxstb@rockbox/developer/linuxstb) 08.09.18 Join pixelma [50] (i=pixelma@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 08.16.00 Quit BigBambi (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 08.16.53 Join erika14212 [0] (n=IceChat7@pool-72-88-49-196.bflony.east.verizon.net) 08.17.16 Part erika14212 08.21.57 Join TaylorKillia1 [0] (n=Administ@wl198118.wright.edu) 08.21.57 Quit TaylorKillian (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 08.30.13 Join linuxstb_ [0] (n=linuxstb@rockbox/developer/linuxstb) 08.35.46 Join Mathiasdm [0] (n=Mathias@78-22-5-158.access.telenet.be) 08.39.56 Quit perrikwp ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") 08.44.19 Quit linuxstb (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 08.45.04 Join perrikwp [0] (i=4aa794a0@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-ef78c1e8e81289c7) 08.45.04 Join rph [0] (n=rph@c-71-62-76-186.hsd1.va.comcast.net) 08.47.13 # 'ello all 08.47.24 # hi 08.48.14 # was just prowling for a cool / helpful indie rock community, mind if i chill here for a while and watch whats said? 08.49.15 # well, this has nothing to do with indie rock ;) Look at http://www.rockbox.org/ 08.50.00 # ahh im really sorry, i saw this channel on another site and they aluded to it maybe im just wrong, ty anyway mark 08.50.07 # and if you just want to chat a bit please go to #rockbox-community 08.50.14 # although it's pretty quiet right now 08.50.16 # no problem 08.50.20 # take care 08.50.21 Part rph 08.54.06 Join petur [50] (n=petur@rockbox/developer/petur) 08.54.06 Join ender` [0] (i=krneki@foo.eternallybored.org) 08.56.45 Join Rob2223 [0] (n=Miranda@p4FDCE74A.dip.t-dialin.net) 08.58.01 Join davina [0] (n=davina@cpc1-sout6-0-0-cust616.sotn.cable.ntl.com) 09.07.06 Join Bagderr [0] (n=daniel@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-dcb7c92a5a11633b) 09.07.30 Nick Bagderr is now known as B4gder (n=daniel@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-dcb7c92a5a11633b) 09.14.33 Join yeahx [0] (n=aarond@74-61-4-123.sea.clearwire-dns.net) 09.15.23 Quit Rob2222 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 09.22.16 Join tvelocity_ [0] (n=tony@athedsl-392436.home.otenet.gr) 09.23.58 Quit jhMikeS (Nick collision from services.) 09.24.04 Join jhMikeS [50] (n=jethead7@rockbox/developer/jhMikeS) 09.24.31 Quit nuonguy ("This computer has gone to sleep") 09.25.18 Quit davina (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 09.25.39 Join stripwax [0] (n=Miranda@87-194-34-169.bethere.co.uk) 09.25.59 Join davina [0] (n=davina@cpc1-sout6-0-0-cust616.sotn.cable.ntl.com) 09.28.20 Join knittl [0] (n=knittl@193.170.135.169) 09.30.03 Quit davina (Remote closed the connection) 09.32.25 Quit stripwax (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 09.34.43 Join crash91 [0] (n=crash@41.232.205.37) 09.38.17 Quit tvelocity (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 09.42.53 Join DerPapst [0] (n=Der_Paps@dhcp-25-162.fh-friedberg.de) 09.46.39 Quit knittl (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 09.46.53 Quit m0f0x (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 09.47.12 Join m0f0x [0] (n=m0f0x@189-47-3-121.dsl.telesp.net.br) 09.48.10 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 09.50.18 Nick linuxstb_ is now known as linuxstb (n=linuxstb@rockbox/developer/linuxstb) 09.59.00 Quit jhMikeS (Nick collision from services.) 09.59.06 Join jhMikeS [50] (n=jethead7@rockbox/developer/jhMikeS) 10.00.29 Join webguest96 [0] (n=d9e1ee61@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-ecf2f36cfd1cb9d1) 10.00.34 Quit Shaid (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 10.01.36 Quit webguest96 (Client Quit) 10.07.22 # we should proceed to get rooms booked for devcon 10.09.30 # B4gder: hotel rooms or conference? 10.09.40 # hotel 10.11.58 # it seems we're 7 people interested to "band together on a cheap hostel" 10.14.29 # last time I stayed in a place called Pegasus Hostel 10.15.42 # * petur nods 10.16.41 # I submitted a query on citystay.de just now 10.17.16 # I'm preferring to find a single room for myself, but I'd like to try to book it somewhere where other people are staying (if reasonably possible) since I'm not familiar at all with the city and might find it a little easier this way. 10.27.18 Join GodEater [0] (i=c2cbc962@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-e2da8f18a80b4d32) 10.31.22 Join MTee [0] (n=MT@41.233.136.189) 10.31.31 # Hello! 10.33.33 Join DerDome [0] (n=DerDome@dslb-082-083-234-194.pools.arcor-ip.net) 10.34.14 # isn't there a 'seek' function in the mpeg player ? 10.34.18 Quit GloomeRy (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 10.34.23 # Yes. 10.36.50 # has it been implemented recently ? coz I installed rockbox about 5-7 months ago :) 10.37.16 # 5-7months is a loooong time in rockbox land 10.37.55 # * gevaerts can't even remember anything that happened in rockbox that long ago 10.38.31 # :D .. just noticed how long actually it is while writing .. !! 10.38.32 # MTee: You might want to check here to see what the major updates were http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/MajorChanges 10.38.44 # I believe it was around that time the wheel was invented 10.39.05 Join goffa_ [0] (n=goffa@216.220.23.105) 10.39.36 # emm .. maybe I just can't remember exactly when I installed it .. but I remember doing an impressive update 10.40.20 # anyways .. another quick ques .. do you need to know embedded programming to develop rockbox or just C ? 10.40.57 # define "embedded programming" :) 10.41.20 # That's a trick question, it has a space in it! 10.41.30 # 2008-02-10: Improved power management on PortalPlayer targets (iPods, Sansas, H10, etc...), resulting in increased battery life. 10.41.57 # so I'm guessing that means my battery test that I'm running right now will likely be much better than the ones listed on the wiki? 10.42.46 Part pixelma 10.42.57 # But seriously, rockbox is over 95% c, and you can basically ignore the rest for most things. The "embedded" bit is basically just being careful to write non-bloated code 10.43.28 # gevaerts, cool_walking : can't answer this ques. :) .. I can however say that I know C .. so do you recommend any further reading/learning ? 10.43.41 # if such is the case, given that I'm somewhere around 16h25 right now, I think I'd better just go to bed and not try to wait up for it to finish 10.44.27 # Dhraakellian: do you mean just listening to the music isn't worth staying awake for ? ;) 10.44.45 # thats actually what I got up for, but I cant get in the mood 10.44.52 # gevaerts: it's on the second pass through the playlist 10.45.26 # granted, I did doze off a bit this afternoon/evening and miss a couple of the symphonies the first time round 10.45.41 # but still, it's 4:45 here 10.46.29 # MTee: the main things are : cooperative threading, (sometimes) slow CPUs, no malloc(), and people shout at you if you waste RAM 10.47.20 Quit goffa (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 10.47.43 # I'd like to be in bed (and sleeping) before the sun comes up, and at about 16h30 now, even if I only get 18 hours out of the charge, that still puts me into daylight territory 10.48.18 # Ok, good night :) 10.48.29 # g'night/morning 10.49.10 # gecaerts : I see .. from what you said it's obvious that I still need to know a little bit more to start developing :D .. so is there a book/tutorial or something alike to refer to ? .. 10.50.21 # MTee: dive in, try to write your own plugin. Then you'll see and learn where you don't understand or know enough. 10.50.34 # * gevaerts agrees with B4gder 10.52.15 # pretty much reasonable .. ok then I will .. just after those darn finals end :S .. I'll go now, exam starts in 2hours! wish me luck :( 10.52.39 # I seriously doubt if anyone here learned this "embedded programming" thing from a book or a tutorial 10.52.44 # good luck :) 10.53.09 # * MTee says good bye 10.53.12 Quit MTee () 10.59.16 # * petur didn't even have C at school, just cobol, pascal and crap like that 10.59.52 # * petur quotes Manuel 'I learned it from a book' 11.00.56 Join Bjoern-Erik [0] (n=Bjoern@166.80-202-110.nextgentel.com) 11.01.24 Quit cool_walking_ (Remote closed the connection) 11.05.26 Quit yeahx () 11.06.57 Part B4gder 11.10.39 # How do I install SDL (for the sims)? 11.12.05 # for which OS? 11.12.45 # Ubuntu 11.13.13 # can't you find it in the package manager? 11.14.21 # would this be it? libsdl1.2debian - Simple DirectMedia Layer 11.14.43 # yes, sounds like it 11.15.20 # there's also -all, -alsa, -esound and -oss, should I get -all? 11.15.36 Join crope [0] (n=crope@dyn3-82-128-187-85.psoas.suomi.net) 11.16.05 # I don't really know, but you could try that. 11.17.18 # It still says i dont have it installed. I'll try checking in synaptic instead of using apt-cahce 11.17.22 # cache& 11.18.10 # Aha, found it in the wiki, you need libsdl-dev 11.31.32 Quit Kupo (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 11.32.42 Join PaulJam [0] (i=PaulJam_@vpn-3047.gwdg.de) 11.33.26 Quit DerPapst (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 11.37.54 # crash91: apt-get install sdl-dev 11.37.59 # libsdl-dev* 11.38.07 # crash91: apt-get install libsdl-dev 11.38.25 # JdGordon: Thanks, I did that :) 11.41.23 Quit linuxstb (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 11.48.14 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 11.51.07 Join mf0102 [0] (n=michi@85.127.182.43) 12.00.46 Join knittl [0] (n=knittl@193.170.132.194) 12.04.54 Quit homielowe () 12.11.51 # CityStay.de has an 8 bed room we can get for ~20 euros/person per night 12.13.44 Join Nico_P [50] (n=nicolas@rockbox/developer/NicoP) 12.13.55 # sounds reasonable 12.14.00 Join Haos32 [0] (n=haos32@238.41.117.87.donpac.ru) 12.14.38 # I think so too 12.14.55 # that is probably w/o breakfast? 12.15.01 # yes 12.15.10 # "We also offer a healthy breakfast with organic bread and milk for 4 euros" 12.15.47 # What else ? 12.15.55 # * gevaerts doesn't want _only_ bread and milk 12.15.57 # it doesn't say 12.16.37 # or we can have it together at the devcon place if possible (found that very enjoyable last time) 12.16.45 # Bagder: the 8 to 10 bed rooms here are 13 euro: http://www.pegasushostel.de/en/prices.html 12.17.47 # I wonder how that compares in regard to location/proximity to the devcon place 12.18.35 # if DerPapst also stays there we have two cars to transport everybody 12.18.49 # ah true 12.18.51 # $10 for bread and milk!!! 12.19.20 # but he's not on the list atm 12.19.28 # http://maps.google.be/maps?f=d&hl=en&geocode=&saddr=Str.+der+Pariser+Kommune+35,+berlin&daddr=Schicklerstr.+5-7,+D-10179+Berlin&sll=50.805935,4.432983&sspn=2.461226,5.767822&ie=UTF8&z=15 12.19.29 # Anyone know what packages I need to build the manual these days? 12.19.56 # wow, that hostel is very close to devcon location 12.20.18 # 2.4km is indeed not a lot 12.20.22 # * petur had just entered the stuff in maps... 12.23.10 # http://maps.google.be/maps?f=d&hl=en&geocode=&saddr=Str.+der+Pariser+Kommune+35,+berlin&daddr=Schicklerstr.+5-7,+D-10179+Berlin+to:Rosenstra%C3%9Fe+16,10178+Berlin&mra=pi&mrcr=1&sll=52.51627,13.428585&sspn=0.018516,0.045061&ie=UTF8&ll=52.517892,13.421946&spn=0.018515,0.045061&z=15 also has the citistay one 12.23.17 Nick fxb__ is now known as fxb (n=felixbru@h1252615.stratoserver.net) 12.24.37 # ok, I've mailed pegasus to see if there's room 12.25.41 Quit TaylorKillia1 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 12.25.53 Join TaylorKillian [0] (n=Administ@wl198118.wright.edu) 12.25.58 # it's a hostel, so don't expect a lot of luxury 12.26.16 # :-) 12.26.20 # What ? No room service and minibar with champagne ? 12.27.52 Join JdGordon_ [0] (i=jonno@c210-49-157-20.smelb1.vic.optusnet.com.au) 12.28.42 # not like the room petur and I had in sweden :) 12.29.10 # although sleeping on a sofa in the office was just as nice :) 12.29.23 # hey, we had a pool table in our 'room' 12.30.42 # pegasus doesn't mention any rules like at what times you can enter/leave 12.31.36 # * petur takes that back - 24 hours reception :) 12.32.27 # impressive: http://www.pegasushostel.de/en/hostel/service.html 12.33.18 # 'Free internet access' - we can have devcon in the room :) 12.33.39 # hehe 12.33.53 # lunch time.... 12.34.02 # Do they allow solder work in the rooms ? 12.35.27 # isn't soldering irons included in the service? 12.36.40 # irons for clothes I tihnk you'll find... 12.36.54 # Those aren't hot enough :) 12.38.15 # Just curious, when I run the simulator, it says "Looking for album art for and then "Album art found: cover.bmp", it prints the same message 6 times, but why would it do the check six times? 12.38.57 # different locations and filenames 12.39.07 # the AA wiki page says the order it looks for 12.39.24 # Oh, like cover.80x80.bmp 12.39.30 # yes 12.40.04 # Shouldn't it terminate the loop when it finds the most suitable bitmap? 12.40.44 Quit JdGordon (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 12.40.59 # Nvm..that was a stupid question. 12.41.34 Nick JdGordon_ is now known as JdGordon (i=jonno@rockbox/developer/JdGordon) 12.42.51 Join culture [0] (n=sam@cpc1-bele3-0-0-cust658.belf.cable.ntl.com) 12.42.53 Join jeffdamet1 [0] (n=jeff@dyndsl-091-096-047-112.ewe-ip-backbone.de) 12.57.41 Quit jeffdameth (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 13.03.14 Nick MilesAway is now known as Miles (i=[U2FsdGV@65.98.26.250) 13.10.13 # Does somebody know where I can find a compiler for ColdFire 5249(it's used in iriver players). I found a link on rockbox.org but it doesn't work :(. Also i didn't find anyting useful with google 13.11.55 # gcc is fine 13.12.01 # Haos32: we have a tool in the rockbox source tree to build such a crosscompiler 13.12.01 # we use it all the time 13.13.12 # 'all the time' ? 13.13.24 # Haos32: I'll look it up for you, but my browser is not cooperating 13.13.34 # * gevaerts almost never uses gcc while sleeping 13.13.50 # we being more than one you know 13.14.02 # * petur last ran rockboxdev.sh about a year ago 13.14.18 # Haos32: here it is: http://svn.rockbox.org/viewvc.cgi/trunk/tools/rockboxdev.sh?revision=17636&content-type=text%2Fplain 13.14.32 Part Haos32 13.14.35 # petur: I spoke of gcc for coldfire 13.15.04 # :p 13.16.39 # * gevaerts still isn't convinced. Who exactly is this "we" then ? 13.19.50 # is there any reason we dont have an option to turn off the LCD after some time (or have I missed it?) fine on mono targets you can sometimes read the screen without the backlight... but who cares about it updating while its in your pocket? 13.22.47 # I think somebody tried this and found the battery time gain to be almost none. Don't know what was disabled then (maybe just the LCD, not the paint code) 13.24.56 # according to kkurbjun there was quite a difference on the gigabeat 13.25.11 # but maybe it depends on the LCD panel 13.25.11 # oh... 13.25.54 # must be, unless the codec you use to test needs to boost 13.31.13 Quit lobf (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 13.36.43 Join pano [0] (n=pano@p5B164EDF.dip.t-dialin.net) 13.37.54 # does anyone know a guide guideline to compile rockbox yourself on ubuntu? The one on the rockbox site doesn't help me 13.39.14 Join Schmogel [0] (n=Miranda@p508C8640.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 13.39.21 # The one on the Rockbox site should have enough information. Where are you stuck? 13.39.25 # which one did you follow? i found the SimpleGuideToCompiling quite useful. 13.40.53 Quit Zarggg ("Pursued by a bear") 13.41.39 # * petur read that quit message as 'Persued by a beer' ;) 13.42.37 Join nplus [0] (n=nplus@141.25.globcom.net) 13.43.05 # pano: still there? 13.43.14 # yeah 13.43.35 # so, which guide did you look at? The SimpleGuideToCompiling? 13.43.53 Quit nplus (Remote closed the connection) 13.43.58 # http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/SimpleGuideToCompiling 13.43.59 # one moment please i'll see my bookmarks^^ 13.44.02 # ok 13.44.13 # ah wait, windows only :) 13.45.13 # This should be a better place to start: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/DevelopmentGuide 13.45.59 # yeah i tried the first one, thats where i have problem 13.46.45 # ah ok thanks the second link seems to be what i am looking for^^ 13.46.48 # thx! 13.48.05 # To build the crosscompiler with our tool you first need to download the source, so maybe that page could be rearanged a little bit 13.48.15 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 13.49.07 # i will try that one later at home 13.49.26 # ok, good luck 13.49.28 # i hope i will do everything right 13.49.31 # ^^ 13.49.43 # Are you planning to work on rockbox or just to apply some patched? 13.49.46 # patches 13.50.38 # i wanted to compile my own rockbox build with some patches 13.51.04 # because most prebuild rockbox build are really bloated with patches i don't really need 13.51.48 # would compiling it with less patches speed rockbox up a little? 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17.17.12 # so between 18h21 and 18h48 17.17.18 # flash-based player 17.17.26 # which player? 17.17.28 # no drive spin-up to watch for 17.17.39 # (if I'm understanding the issue correctly) 17.17.42 # e260 17.17.49 # I guess it did need to be patched afterall 17.18.34 # I don't really undestand what the problem is, but hopefully people working on the sansa know what's going on 17.18.56 # do you know the runtime you can get with the OF? 17.19.16 # haven't timed it yet 17.19.28 # now with OF, you have to manually time it, right? 17.19.47 Join Nico_P [50] (n=nicolas@rockbox/developer/NicoP) 17.19.52 # You could connect it to the line in of a PC and record 17.19.59 # :) 17.20.02 # ah 17.20.08 # gevaerts: nice idea 17.20.24 # and then just look for the silence at the end 17.20.55 # http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/SandiskE200BatteryMeasurements 17.24.02 Quit s3 (Remote closed the connection) 17.24.26 Nick crash91 is now known as spyro91 (n=crash@41.232.205.37) 17.24.35 Nick spyro91 is now known as crash91 (n=crash@41.232.205.37) 17.25.06 Part crash91 ("Ex-Chat") 17.25.26 Join mcuelenaere [0] (n=mcuelena@rockbox/developer/mcuelenaere) 17.26.37 Join DerPapst [0] (n=Der_Paps@p5B23CFF1.dip.t-dialin.net) 17.28.12 # Dose somebody going to the devcon euro intersted in working on the gogear hdd6330 (to dump the bootloader and find the key), I can send one via scorche 17.28.27 Join PaulJam_ [0] (i=PaulJam_@vpn-3102.gwdg.de) 17.28.56 # I don't have time to do :) 17.30.09 # I should spend my time on the meizu 17.31.01 Join PaulJam__ [0] (i=PaulJam_@vpn-3115.gwdg.de) 17.31.58 # who is the specialist of the mi4 format, Bagder are you interested ? 17.34.31 # Which target is LinusN going to work on? :) 17.34.49 Quit stooo ("Leaving.") 17.41.12 Join nuonguy [0] (n=john@c-24-6-175-26.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) 17.41.48 Join herrwaldo [0] (n=waldo@ip-81-11-224-247.dsl.scarlet.be) 17.44.37 Quit petur ("sports...") 17.48.21 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 17.49.41 Join yorky501 [0] (n=adam@client-82-25-178-139.brnt.adsl.virgin.net) 17.49.41 Quit mcuelenaere (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 17.51.03 # does rockbox reduce the functionality of ipods output port i.e using docking stations or fm transmitters etc? 17.51.14 Join Obsidian1 [0] (i=obsidian@gentoo-help.com) 17.51.19 Quit PaulJam_ (Connection timed out) 17.51.53 # I see that ffmpeg now has a git repository which is automatically synced with svn, maybe we could do something like that too? 17.52.04 Quit GodEater ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") 17.52.12 Quit PaulJam (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 17.53.04 # yorky501: Read this... http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IpodAccessories 17.53.45 # first off, it doesnt reduce anything...it is a complete replacement so any "reductions" are a case of something not implemented yet....secondly, some functionalities will work, while others will not...this is due to us outputting through the line out and not having a proper serial or AAP implementation yet 17.55.05 Join mcuelenaere [0] (n=mcuelena@rockbox/developer/mcuelenaere) 17.55.12 Quit mcuelenaere (Remote closed the connection) 17.55.18 Join mcuelenaere [0] (n=mcuelena@rockbox/developer/mcuelenaere) 17.55.41 Quit Horscht ("http://www.geisterfahrer.org") 17.56.18 # cool thanks for that 17.57.14 Quit ObsidianX (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 17.59.45 Join n1s [0] (n=nils@rockbox/developer/n1s) 18.00.37 Join knittl [0] (n=knittl@193.170.132.111) 18.00.42 Part yorky501 18.01.08 Join s3 [0] (i=Mi-Mi-M@AGrenoble-152-1-20-200.w82-122.abo.wanadoo.fr) 18.04.03 Join low_light [0] (i=c730190b@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-f44d589cd636892f) 18.05.08 Join Horscht [0] (n=Horscht@xbmc/user/horscht) 18.06.49 # toffe82: I'm making progress on the hdd1630 18.07.05 # low_light: How's it looking so far? 18.08.01 # got the BL & mi4 key. If I have time this afternoon, I should have a basic lcd driver 18.08.21 # low_light: Nice! Good luck! :) 18.09.29 # low_light: I wish my wife and kids let me more time ;) 18.10.07 Join luisbg [0] (n=luisbg@ubuntu/member/luisbg) 18.10.10 # hello all 18.10.28 # I wanted to know how much work would be involved in porting rockbox to the ipod classic 18.10.40 # low_light: I tried to install rockboon the sa9200, I installed the bootloader but after, how do you install the rockbox files ? 18.10.48 # rockbox ^^ 18.12.29 # luisbg: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/NewPort 18.13.03 # toffe82: make a normal build, rename rockbox.mi4 to FWImage.ebn and install that via recovery mode. It will reboot into Rockbox, and complain about not finding .rockbox. Plug in USB. 18.13.04 Quit mcuelenaere (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 18.13.20 # then copy the .rockbox/ directory 18.13.50 # in the 16mb partition ? 18.14.29 # No, with rockbox running, you'll get a mass storage device 18.14.51 # LambdaCalculus37, I was wondering why it was undeveloped... it seams the hardware is very different to the rest (which is ironic) 18.14.56 # ok, I was building the bootloader 18.15.08 # I have some education in electronics but very little in assembler 18.15.12 # I wonder if I could pull it off 18.15.24 # No one's stopping you from trying. 18.15.26 # I will try again 18.15.33 # toffe82: the bootloader doesn't do much until it figure out how to get it to coexist with the OF for dual boot 18.15.51 # ok 18.16.56 # low_light: if nobody want to try the hdd6330 at the devcon, would you like to have it to try ? 18.20.30 # toffe82: I can send you the bootloader I used to dump the 1630. It *should* work with the 6330 too. 18.21.02 Join mcuelenaere [0] (n=mcuelena@rockbox/developer/mcuelenaere) 18.24.46 Join culture [0] (n=sam@cpc1-bele3-0-0-cust658.belf.cable.ntl.com) 18.26.57 Quit DerPapst (Nick collision from services.) 18.27.10 Join DerPapst_ [0] (n=Der_Paps@p5B23CFF1.dip.t-dialin.net) 18.28.57 Quit amiconn (Nick collision from services.) 18.29.04 Join amiconn [50] (n=jens@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 18.30.38 Join case_ [0] (n=case@pdpc/supporter/student/case-) 18.30.44 # hi there 18.31.28 # how can i find which generation of iPod (nano?) the device I have on my desk is ? 18.31.34 # low_light: yes, I can try 18.32.30 # case_: google for pictures?...also, apple has a page somewhere 18.32.51 Join jeffdameth [0] (n=jeff@dyndsl-091-096-049-029.ewe-ip-backbone.de) 18.33.21 # ha, it's a 1gb, it should be a 1st gen nano... 18.34.03 # looks like that : http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1353#ipodnano 18.35.20 Join domonoky [0] (n=Domonoky@rockbox/developer/domonoky) 18.36.19 # what would you guys buy for a new Rockbox target? a touchscreen DAP (keeping in mind Rockbox doesn't have rather good touchscreen support) or a similar (cheaper) DAP (with the same chipset) without the touchscreen but with pretty unhandy buttons (regarding button placement)? I really can't decide.. 18.36.33 # ok, seems to be a good target for rockbox then :) i know what i'll do tonight :) 18.37.15 Quit culture (Remote closed the connection) 18.37.15 Quit mcuelenaere (Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer)) 18.37.20 Join BigBambi [0] (n=Alex@rockbox/staff/BigBambi) 18.37.41 Join bertrik [0] (n=bertrik@183-012-045-062.dynamic.caiway.nl) 18.38.00 Join mcuelenaere [0] (n=mcuelena@rockbox/developer/mcuelenaere) 18.45.42 Join inversions [0] (n=sam@cpc1-bele3-0-0-cust658.belf.cable.ntl.com) 18.47.20 Quit jeffdamet1 (Connection timed out) 18.47.46 # low_light: email me the bootloader ;) 18.48.54 Join bluebrother [0] (n=dom@rockbox/staff/bluebrother) 18.49.16 # what was the indication for a sansa v2? "Plays for sure"? 18.49.30 # audible support iirc 18.50.06 # bluebrother: Audible support and a 03.XX.XX firmware. 18.50.30 # ok, thanks. I knew about the firmware version but I can't see that from the picture ;-) 18.50.58 # bluebrother: Buying one online? :) 18.51.15 # just browsing ebay. Missed a c200 sunday :( 18.52.06 # I'd just keep an eye on woot.com 18.53.22 Quit DaCapn () 18.53.46 # they don't ship to outside the US unfortunately 18.53.58 # they had an e280 last week and an e260 a little over a month—ah 18.54.44 Join MethoS- [0] (n=clemens@host-091-096-211-208.ewe-ip-backbone.de) 18.55.15 # nevermind me, then... !;) 19.00.10 Quit LambdaCalculus37 ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") 19.00.54 Quit herrwaldo (Remote closed the connection) 19.02.57 Join LambdaCalculus37 [0] (i=44a0430f@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-1981b14ba7c7a8a6) 19.03.51 Quit mcuelenaere (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 19.05.38 Join herrwaldo [0] (n=waldo@ip-81-11-224-247.dsl.scarlet.be) 19.05.47 # JdGordon, I have a question about unregister_ata_idle_func, are you around? 19.06.00 Quit Horscht (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 19.06.00 # domonoky: what's the point in keeping the wave files used for talkfile generation? 19.07.24 Join davina [0] (n=davina@cpc1-sout6-0-0-cust616.sotn.cable.ntl.com) 19.08.07 # hm, i think i just copied all options from the normal voice script.. but its usefull for debugging problems :-) 19.08.11 Quit LambdaCalculus37 ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") 19.08.37 Join LambdaCalculus37 [0] (i=44a0430f@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-77df66b3719fb516) 19.12.33 Join Horscht [0] (n=Horscht@xbmc/user/horscht) 19.12.39 Quit Horscht (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 19.13.01 # well, when fixing the long filename bug I thought about removing it -- for debugging we can still enable it in the source 19.13.24 # maybe add a "extended" or "debug-enabled" configuration? 19.13.30 Join Horscht [0] (n=Horscht@xbmc/user/horscht) 19.13.38 # I don't think it's useful for most users 19.13.52 Part Horscht ("User was distributing pornography on server; system seized by FBI") 19.14.36 # jup, it could be removed.. 19.17.11 # domonoky: seen this thread? http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=17022.0;topicseen 19.19.01 # i havent seen this thread, but i know the problem.. unfortunatly i dont know whats wrong. All cutoff files i have decode fine with rbspeexdec, they are only cutoff in rockbox (target and sim) .. 19.23.23 Join Horscht [0] (n=Horscht@xbmc/user/horscht) 19.23.34 Quit midkay (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 19.24.59 Join crash91 [0] (n=crash@41.232.205.37) 19.27.46 Quit SgtPnkks ("Leaving") 19.28.08 Part Horscht ("electromagnetic radiation from satellite debris") 19.30.07 Join Lynx [0] (n=lynx@tina-10-4.genetik.uni-koeln.de) 19.31.34 Quit luisbg ("Leaving") 19.32.50 Quit knittl (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 19.32.52 Join SgtPnkks [0] (n=wangchun@74-137-160-38.dhcp.insightbb.com) 19.33.19 Join knittl [0] (n=knittl@193.170.132.111) 19.35.21 # pegasus hostel has an 8 bed room available still at least 19.38.21 Join Horscht [0] (n=Horscht@xbmc/user/horscht) 19.40.28 # I'd say go for it. We have seven names on the room-sharing list, so that one is almost guaranteed to be full 19.40.50 # yeah, I'll proceed with the booking later tonight 19.42.16 Quit Horscht (Client Quit) 19.43.27 # do they have an internet connection? 19.43.37 # yes 19.44.10 # "Free internet access" 19.44.51 Join gevaerts_ [0] (n=fg@195-144-092-133.dyn.adsl.xs4all.be) 19.44.59 Quit gevaerts (Nick collision from services.) 19.45.12 Nick gevaerts_ is now known as gevaerts (n=fg@195-144-092-133.dyn.adsl.xs4all.be) 19.45.21 # bbl 19.48.04 Join shotofadds [0] (n=rob@rockbox/developer/shotofadds) 19.48.22 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 19.49.51 Quit bluebrother ("bbl") 19.50.02 Quit TaylorKillian (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 19.50.57 Quit davina (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 19.53.44 Join Horscht [0] (n=Horscht@xbmc/user/horscht) 19.56.55 # anybody mind if I tweak the RGB colours used by zxbox? the current colours are really nothing like an actual Spectrum, and it's a simple fix 19.57.51 # Sure, go for it. :) 19.57.53 Join gregzx [0] (n=chatzill@dtf196.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) 19.58.31 # * LambdaCalculus37 thinks that zxbox on the Gigabeat models should be rotated 90 degrees; he's going to have a look at that when he gets a chance 19.59.35 # * shotofadds is rather impressed by zxbox on the D2. needs some changes for the touchscreen, but performance is good :) 20.00.51 Quit Lynx_ (Connection timed out) 20.00.51 Nick Lynx is now known as Lynx_ (n=lynx@tina-10-4.genetik.uni-koeln.de) 20.01.30 # I'm not sure whether to bother posting a patch for this: in zx_vid_16bpp.c, change N1 to 0xC0 and B0 to 0x00, and {0x15, 0x15, 0x15} to {0,0,0}. Bingo! 20.01.41 Join lee-qid [0] (n=liqid@p5496494E.dip.t-dialin.net) 20.01.41 Nick fxb__ is now known as fxb (n=felixbru@h1252615.stratoserver.net) 20.01.47 # zxvid_16bpp.c, even 20.02.27 # btw. these are the colours used by FUSE (free unix spectrum emulator) 20.04.30 Join fml [0] (n=4fd3f680@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-35903af6e73891b5) 20.05.02 Join obo [0] (n=obo@rockbox/developer/obo) 20.06.25 # Hello. I use cygwin under WinXP. Is the compiler package for coldfire avalable at http://download.rockbox.org/cygwin up to date? 20.07.36 # I once gor a warning that I have 3.4.5 but the recommended version is 3.4.6 20.07.57 # Bagder: heh...they even seem to have a conference room 20.08.23 Join midgey [0] (n=tjross@c-71-205-31-207.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) 20.10.07 # fml: afaik it should work ok 20.10.32 # n1s: it works, yes. 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Combined, they would result in a good thing IMHO 20.12.45 Join OlivierBorowski [0] (n=OlivierB@ANancy-157-1-129-241.w90-6.abo.wanadoo.fr) 20.13.57 Quit Horscht ("I got raided by the FBI and all i got is this lousy quit message") 20.14.00 # n1s: why is it available as a part of the official rockbox package then? 20.14.15 # because no one has made a newer package 20.15.18 Join Lars_G [0] (n=Lars@unaffiliated/lars-g/x-000001) 20.15.28 # I think I know the response to this but I ask anyhow 20.15.39 Part lee-qid 20.15.56 # does the sansa e200 lack the phisical phone plugedness sensor, or is it a software lack? 20.16.22 # Lars_G: I think it it was available rockbox would use it 20.16.34 # So I conclude it's just not there 20.16.45 Join Horscht [0] (n=Horscht@xbmc/user/horscht) 20.17.37 Quit fml ("CGI:IRC") 20.19.12 # Thanks 20.19.16 # * Lars_G bows and runs away 20.19.17 Part Lars_G 20.19.23 # I think the as3514 built into the sansas can actually detect a headphone, but it can only detect plugin, not plugout 20.22.50 Quit Mathiasdm ("Yuuw!") 20.25.32 Quit Dhraakellian (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 20.26.02 Quit krazykit (Remote closed the connection) 20.26.06 Join krazykit [0] (n=kkit@adsl-76-240-198-255.dsl.ipltin.sbcglobal.net) 20.27.29 Join DerPapst [0] (n=Der_Paps@p5B23CFF1.dip.t-dialin.net) 20.27.50 Join MethoS_ [0] (n=clemens@host-091-096-211-031.ewe-ip-backbone.de) 20.37.01 Quit SirFunk ("Ex-Chat") 20.38.47 Quit bertrik ("Leaving") 20.39.02 Quit sup () 20.41.34 Join mcuelenaere [0] (n=mcuelena@rockbox/developer/mcuelenaere) 20.42.51 Quit nuonguy ("This computer has gone to sleep") 20.42.59 Join Seldaek [0] (n=seld@crom.seld.ch) 20.43.21 # any idea whether the ipod video 60/80gb rockbox version works on the ipod120gb ? 20.43.36 # 160gb sorry 20.45.10 Quit MethoS- (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 20.45.13 Quit DerPapst_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 20.45.33 # the front page will tell you 20.46.17 # ahr, right, thanks 20.46.40 Quit tvelocity_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 20.46.42 # any idea when it might be supported? 20.47.09 # nope 20.47.28 Join tvelocity_ [0] (n=tony@athedsl-4399412.home.otenet.gr) 20.47.29 # if i brick my phone (cowon d2) trying to flash it, is it possible to fix? 20.47.48 # s/phone/mp3player :) 20.47.50 # errrr...how do you use a d2 as a phone? 20.47.50 Join SirFunk [0] (n=Sir@206-159-155-246.netsync.net) 20.48.05 # I've yet to see anyone successfully brick a D2 20.48.31 # but yeah, you can recover from bad flashes using tcctool 20.48.46 # good, thanks 20.49.00 Quit SirFunk (SendQ exceeded) 20.49.30 # * shotofadds wonders whether to commit that zxbox change and see if anyone notices... 20.49.38 Join SirFunk [0] (n=Sir@206-159-155-246.netsync.net) 20.54.58 Join NET||abuse [0] (n=luke@89.124.82.7) 20.55.18 # hey guys, i have an old creative zen 8GB (microphoto is the model name) 20.55.34 # any chance there's a rock box version for it? i don't see on the current builds page 20.55.39 # Nope. 20.55.52 # oh :( damn 20.55.58 Part Seldaek 20.56.00 # No one is working on a port for it. 20.56.20 # no demand? 20.56.31 # No, just no one working on it. 20.56.46 # The only "demand" comes from the owner of a device. 20.56.47 # http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/NewPort 20.56.58 # And that's because it's the owner of the device that does the dirty work. 20.57.22 Join dabujo [0] (i=xx@p4FDB16BF.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 20.57.56 Join ap0 [0] (i=kvirc@nfb68-1-88-169-81-101.fbx.proxad.net) 20.57.57 Quit ap0 (Client Quit) 20.58.00 Join svpe [0] (n=svpe@p549061A9.dip.t-dialin.net) 20.58.06 Quit Mouser_X (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 20.58.42 # ahh, ok 20.58.47 # just reading that, 20.59.08 # is there a page up about each model at all? As in, is there a way to check if anyone has done any of the work at all before? 20.59.27 # There's this: http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/TargetStatus 20.59.58 # But seriously, if you want a port that badly, be prepared to do a *lot* of hard work to make that port happen. 21.04.01 # ok, i can see a few zen entries there, but, not sure where to look, ok, i'll spend time researching and see where this one is at, if at all.. 21.04.03 # thanks for the pointers 21.04.11 Quit NET||abuse ("Leaving") 21.05.42 Join x1jmp [0] (n=x1jmp@frbg-4dbc5aeb.pool.einsundeins.de) 21.08.54 Quit crash91 ("Ex-Chat") 21.10.11 Quit desowin ("KVIrc 4.0.0 Insomnia http://www.kvirc.net/") 21.10.32 Join Mouser_X [0] (n=mouser_x@layl001.digis.net) 21.14.23 Quit midgey () 21.15.57 Join midgey [0] (n=tjross@c-71-205-31-207.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) 21.16.00 Join nedd1 [0] (n=john@nat/sun/x-644ea7ff84eaaf04) 21.16.32 Join desowin [0] (n=desowin@atheme/member/desowin) 21.24.30 Quit OlivierBorowski (Remote closed the connection) 21.25.38 Quit advcomp2019 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 21.25.53 Join advcomp2019 [0] (n=advcomp2@unaffiliated/advcomp2019) 21.27.39 Quit inversions (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 21.27.46 Quit markun ("leaving") 21.28.13 Join inversions [0] (n=sam@cpc1-bele3-0-0-cust658.belf.cable.ntl.com) 21.29.23 Join markun [50] (n=markun@rockbox/developer/markun) 21.30.35 Join pixelma [50] (i=pixelma@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 21.31.21 Nick Obsidian1 is now known as ObsidianX (i=obsidian@gentoo-help.com) 21.40.25 Join atrus [0] (n=atrus@d198-166-31-136.abhsia.telus.net) 21.41.32 Join linuxstb [0] (n=linuxstb@rockbox/developer/linuxstb) 21.44.36 Quit mcuelenaere () 21.48.23 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 21.53.03 # so the Devcon participants who want to stay in a hostel decided on the "Pegasus Hostel"? 21.53.16 Quit nplus (Remote closed the connection) 21.54.57 Quit atrus () 21.55.01 # i think it was more an executive decision because no one else chose anything 21.57.13 # that's on the way amiconn has to drive from his home to Devcon place... (probably mine too) 21.57.38 # not from my home but the place I'll stay in Berlin 21.57.48 # i take it that this is a good thing? 21.58.17 Quit LambdaCalculus37 ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") 21.58.46 # yeah, guess we can take another 2-3 people with us if necessary (but amiconn has the last word on this - he's the car driver :P ) 22.00.23 # any pubs nearby the hostel? ;) 22.00.45 # no idea (yet) 22.01.58 # i see there is a place inside the hostel, but no clue on how that is 22.03.17 # I think you'll find at least some along the "Karl-Marx-Allee", the next big street in northern direction 22.04.15 Quit svpe ("leaving") 22.04.43 Join Poison4 [0] (n=Owner@c-68-43-140-63.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) 22.04.43 Join mirak [0] (n=mirak@m29.net81-66-53.noos.fr) 22.05.09 # hello, does anyone know if there is an sdk for rockbox to make .rock files? 22.05.45 # * domonoky is fine with this hostel.. 22.05.46 # yes 22.05.49 # that would be the normal rockbox build tools 22.06.23 # Poison4: you cant make those .rock files alone, just build the complete rockbox with configure/make .. 22.06.58 # is there turorials on rockbox.org 22.08.03 # Poison4: take a look a rockboxs wiki, there are many doc for devs there.. 22.08.19 # s/doc/documents :-) 22.08.26 # pixelma: yeah, we're going with pegasus 22.08.55 # the flying horse? ;) 22.09.17 # * shotofadds takes the deafening silence about his zxbox change as a "yeah, commit it" :-) 22.09.28 Join bertrik [0] (n=bertrik@183-012-045-062.dynamic.caiway.nl) 22.09.41 # shotofadds: I don't think zxbox is the most popular plugin... 22.10.25 # linuxstb: really? I'd never have expected that.... 22.10.33 # Bagder: but nice to hear that everything is on its way :) 22.11.16 # yeps, I'm looking forward to it! 22.11.45 Quit inversions (Connection timed out) 22.13.09 # there should really be an avi plugin, so you dont have to convert to .mpg 22.13.18 # linuxstb: at least I've got my priorities right. I could be working on something no-one wants, like sound on the d2... 22.13.55 # Or a flash driver... 22.14.01 Quit zeno_ (Remote closed the connection) 22.14.15 # * linuxstb wonders how shotofadds will load all his .sna files 22.14.16 Join zeno_ [0] (n=andrew@c-75-70-202-80.hsd1.co.comcast.net) 22.14.52 # well, preglow's SD driver will be working soon ;) 22.15.18 # but seriously, the NAND driver is ok-ish if you know how to handle it... 22.15.21 # Poison4: you'd probably still have to convert the videos to adjust the resolution to the screen 22.16.00 # and .avi is just a container... 22.16.02 # * shotofadds prefers .tzx anyway 22.16.35 # Poison4: What device do you use Rockbox on? 22.16.42 # still, feel free to write one... 22.17.29 # or am I confusing it with something else? 22.17.45 # pixelma: No, you're right. 22.17.49 # pixelma: if you mean avi, no, it is a container 22.18.13 Quit mf0102 ("Ex-Chat") 22.19.16 # it is probably good that we _don't_ support any .avi files as that makes it very clear that you can't just copy any old video file over and expect it to work 22.20.49 # * shotofadds feels the need to write a 1-line .avi viewer: splash("RTFM!"); 22.21.04 # can avi contain an mpeg1/2 srteam? if yes, then supporting .avi might be possible without too much work. 22.23.51 # PaulJam__: But followed by many complaints that "my avi file doesn't work"... 22.24.51 # yeah, I think I'd rather have shotofadds' version 22.26.25 # shotofadds: curious...why is the touchscreen button stuff call touchpad? 22.26.56 Quit BlakeJohnson86 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 22.27.13 # I ask because the philips players I have (and the m:robe) have what I'd call a touchpad 22.27.42 # ^ m:robe 100 that is 22.28.21 # toffe82: here? 22.28.28 Join BlakeJohnson86 [0] (n=bjohnson@c-24-118-135-22.hsd1.mn.comcast.net) 22.28.47 # I was thinking of making a generic driver for touching, tapping, & sliding events 22.29.24 # Bagder: I have a new mi4 key & bootloader for the philips hdd1630 22.29.33 # ah, cool 22.29.56 # I'll can email it later 22.30.04 # please do 22.32.15 # Llorean: FYI: I'm booking a room at the pegasus hostel for the 7 persons 22.36.19 # yes 22.36.44 # I think low_light pretty much answered it with that mi4 info on the philips 22.37.17 # "it" being what I was gonna ask about 22.37.44 # Bagder: I still have to do it on the hdd6330 22.37.56 # ah, I didn't spot the different model number 22.38.34 # one is microdrive and the other one standard drive 22.38.44 # philips hdd1630 = 6GB mini2g clone 22.39.01 # philips hdd6330 = 30GB ipod video clone 22.39.08 Join Munkie [0] (n=alex@41.177.31.90) 22.39.10 # hey 22.39.31 # Bagder: if I don't make it , would you like to play with it at the devcon ? 22.39.43 # whats rockbox programmed in? 22.39.59 # toffe82: sounds like fun, sure 22.40.10 # Munkie: mostly C 22.40.40 # ok. where could i get the source code? 22.41.03 # Munkie: I'd recommend getting it from the svn server 22.41.55 # i just want to look at a few small apps.. check if i can see whats going on.. 22.42.30 # Bagder: if scorche|sh is still ok , I will send him the hdd6330 (and also the sa9200, and the hdd1630 if I can fix it) so you will have 3 philips gogear to play with 22.42.38 # Munkie: get the source archive at build.rockbox.org 22.42.52 # ty 22.43.05 # scorche might get a dap overload for his trip... 22.43.51 # low_light: If I'd written the code I'd have called it touchscreen, but JdGordon did the original implementation for the m:robe 500. 22.45.18 # ahhh...perhaps it would be best to switch notation...it is a touchSCREEN afterall 22.45.25 Quit x1jmp (Remote closed the connection) 22.46.27 # Bagder: yeah....i just hope i dont get trapped by customs ;) 22.46.44 # :) 22.47.21 # * scorche|sh searches for any such posession fee they will charge if they think you are going to be selling, but coulsnt find any 22.48.25 # toffe82: so how is the Gigabeat V?...is it working with the S?...what is required to get it so if it is not? 22.48.47 # I can send you the V too ;) 22.49.25 # * scorche|sh wonders if he will have any room for clothes 22.49.52 # the version of windows is the same as the S, but it needs the mod for the updater and also the security 22.50.11 # if somebody wants to do it 22.50.17 # what sort of "mod"? 22.51.05 # the updater for the S works is originally for the v30T, it doesn't work on the v30 (the one available in the US) 22.51.42 # is the reason known? 22.51.55 # and also there is to check the security hole 22.52.54 # I am the only one having a V30, and don't really test it, I only tried one time 22.54.42 # I have also a T400 if you want but this one is tricky , there is an updater for the T401, but not the t400 and it is a flash base so it is difficult to try something without the OF 22.55.19 # hrm...so we have not had code run on the V30 yet? 22.55.33 # no 22.56.26 # if somebpdy can check what did zunepet on the S and try to see if it is the same on the V, it should be easy 22.57.21 Quit Munkie () 22.57.59 # linuxstb:sansa e250 23.00.04 # low_light: In fact the ZVM port uses the word TOUCHPAD in the 'correct' sense. I guess "someone" should fix those 70-odd files... :/ 23.01.19 # is there anything more boring than moving? :/ 23.01.44 # yeah: debugging the d2 nand driver :p 23.01.47 # so scorche|sh , you want everything (gigabeat V30, T400, Gogear Sa9200, hdd1630 and hdd6330) ;) 23.02.08 # well, it's nice if you move to a better place :) 23.02.31 Quit domonoky (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 23.02.51 # shotofadds: i definitely think i disagree :> 23.03.30 # hehe, is that the sound of you volunteering? 23.03.36 # * preglow runs 23.03.52 # i've had a stint of disassembling, though 23.04.04 # trying to find what the d2 firmware does when init sd 23.04.05 # found anything interesting? 23.04.09 Quit linuxstb (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 23.04.24 # we'll, i've mapped out a bunch of sd code, but found nothing that seems to do what i want 23.04.24 Join linuxstb [0] (n=linuxstb@rockbox/developer/linuxstb) 23.04.37 # it seems to touch a gpioc pin, but that had no effect when i did so 23.05.11 # i probably won't have any rockbox time for a week or so now either 23.05.57 # btw, have you found where the equivalent of pcf_write is? 23.06.48 # any pcf communcation at all, really 23.07.08 # I'm beginning to think about inserting some code into "an appropriate point" in the OF, eg. to jump to a stripped-down bootloader which displays the current PCF registers, GPIO values, etc. Might this be worth persuing? 23.07.28 # yeah I have the pcf_write somewhere. what version of the OF are you looking at? 23.08.06 # toffe82: think i might skip on the T400, but otherwise and as long as devs are willing to have at the others, sure (i might try and find time for the V30) 23.08.52 # shotofadds: would be interesting 23.08.57 # shotofadds: 4.55 23.09.23 # scorche|sh: I will prepare them and send them at the end of the week , so you will have them next week, is that ok ? 23.09.47 # toffe82: sure...whatever works for you 23.10.40 # ok, mine is 4.52 but the routine is easy to find. At 0x200000d4 there are 4 BLs in a row. Right after that is a LDR PC, xxxx. Follow that, then... 23.11.47 # shotofadds: give bls in a row here :> but there is a jump sequence after that 23.12.01 # scorche|sh: and if somebody want to buy one, no problem ;) 23.12.25 # ..follow the first BL in that routine. There's a BL at the start, followed by what I believe to be the whole PCF init routine, starting with a test of GPIOB29. 23.12.36 # preglow: give/five? 23.12.42 # toffe82: eh?...i need to try and sell them too? =P 23.12.48 # shotofadds: five, yea 23.12.59 # :) 23.13.04 Quit gregzx ("ChatZilla 0.9.82.1 [Firefox 2.0.0.14/2008040413]") 23.13.08 # that ldr seems to jump to sdram init 23.13.37 # hmm. wait a minute, let me have a look at 4.55 23.13.38 # first bl in that routine again jumps to a spot that does some gpio stuff, by the looks of the addresses it uses 23.13.42 # scorche|sh: just joking but if really somebody wants one, no problem 23.14.01 # is it 0xF005A040 bit 29? 23.14.03 # toffe82: are you referring to devs or regular people? 23.14.29 # I was thinking devs 23.15.06 # shotofadds: ahh, later in that routine i see some very familiar 8 bit numbers 23.15.16 # fc, e8, f8, those look like voltage settings 23.15.59 # are there a lot of MOV R1, #0x10, MOV R0,#7, BL .... ? 23.16.18 # those are calls to i2c read/write (just don't ask me what the 7 is for) 23.16.30 # yeah, there are 23.16.38 # well you found it :-) 23.16.41 # so the call right after that is i2c read write? 23.16.45 # 7 might be pcf chip address? 23.16.51 # nope, 0x10 is. 23.17.08 # roit 23.17.19 # so the bl right after that is i2c_write? 23.17.27 # toffe82: hrm...so you mean to give devs interested in making the port the device, but if they want to pay, let them? 23.17.31 # eh. or _red 23.17.34 # _READ 23.17.54 # from the start of that routine.. it checks GPIOC29, then performs a read from PCF reg 2,3,4 23.18.02 # (R3 = count) 23.18.17 # riiight, this is the code you've disassembled 23.18.20 # and pastebinned me once 23.18.30 Join Dhraakellian [0] (n=ntryon@cpe-66-67-55-191.rochester.res.rr.com) 23.18.34 # yeah, you still got that? 23.18.37 # deed 23.18.48 # should make a good reference, then :) 23.19.23 Quit n1s () 23.19.24 # ..then reads reg 8, and write the value back to the PCF with bit 1 set. etc. 23.19.48 Join przemhb [0] (n=przemhb@chello089076178118.chello.pl) 23.19.51 # good 23.19.56 # i should be able to find most pcf comms, then 23.20.07 # that should reveal if sd needs some special massaging 23.20.19 # yeah, if it's not in this routine it should be easy to find. 23.20.37 # i wonder why they bitbang their pcf i2c, afaik the chip has i2c controllers 23.21.55 # it bit-bangs all i2c afaik. as do we. 23.22.18 # well, don't have much a choice, do we :> 23.22.37 # I wouldn't know... 23.23.54 # this tower is going to be massive this year.. 23.24.44 Quit Poison4 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 23.25.04 # preglow: I'm slightly intrigued why their startup code is structured differently between 4.52 and 4.55. You'd think that stuff would be pretty static. 23.25.51 # indeed 23.27.04 # amiconn: yesterday you have asked me about sim output regarding AC3 playback messages - I have tried it today - when I try to play one of the files causing problems console output show nothing new 23.27.24 # scorche|sh: show them, work on it, and if someone wants to keep it make him pay :) 23.27.35 Quit low_light ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") 23.28.45 Quit Arathis (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 23.29.09 Join captmonkey4777 [0] (n=captmonk@pool-72-78-142-62.phlapa.east.verizon.net) 23.29.32 # preglow: 0xf0052000,40,80? (just a wild guess ;) 23.30.25 # toffe82: i have no idea what they are worth, but alright... 23.30.52 # scorche|sh: I will let you know 23.31.34 # toffe82: have any more defunct boards around to send more thermistors from? I used the one off the tracing board. 23.32.00 # jhMikeS: I should have one or two more 23.32.24 # I will check 23.32.30 Quit dabujo (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 23.32.47 Quit captmonkey4777 ("Leaving") 23.35.25 # toffe82: if you don't want to send the whole board just a careful removal: http://jhmikes.cleansoap.org/TH_locator.jpg 23.36.05 Join k4y [0] (n=jackass@dsl-243-94-115.telkomadsl.co.za) 23.36.48 Join Zarggg [0] (n=z@216-15-73-111.c3-0.eas-ubr6.atw-eas.pa.cable.rcn.com) 23.37.36 # jhMikeS: did you find the reference of this thermistor ? 23.38.23 # scorche: read the log yesterday and wanted to add that I also get skipping of tracks (didn't find a thing in common for those yet) again. For me it was 2 tracks at once in a playlist on M5 (running a slightly older version, high 172xx) and once on the c200 (skipping one track, updated on Monday) 23.39.19 # toffe82: no, I did it experimentally so runs on more than one would add some accuracy and hopefully help to cancel component tolerance out 23.39.19 # interesting in the latter: it was the same track that regularly got skipped during the "skip 3rd song in a playlist" bug, even though it was not 3rd in this playlist but it's still 3rd in that directory/album 23.40.47 # hey, i was wondering if someone could give me some advice 23.41.47 # my iAudio X5 is dying and i'd like to get another HDD portable media device and run rockbox on it, could someone maybe suggest some devices that wouldn't be too hard to get hold of that rockbox currently works on (or are under heavy development and likely to work on in the reasonably near future)? 23.42.13 # when i say "too hard to get hold of" i really mean a device that i could buy retail (ie. not off ebay etc.) 23.42.13 Quit crope ("Leaving") 23.43.15 # i've been looking through the list of supported (and players being developed for) on the wiki but i'm not entirely sure which of these players is a good piece of equipment and which are still being produced 23.43.17 Join inversions [0] (n=sam@cpc1-bele3-0-0-cust658.belf.cable.ntl.com) 23.43.53 Quit desowin ("KVIrc 4.0.0 Insomnia http://www.kvirc.net/") 23.44.37 # k4y: no player is available new that currently runs rockbox really fine 23.44.48 # k4y, do you know what is wrong with x5? 23.46.19 # advcomp2019: the battery life is just really poor 23.47.00 # Bagder: that's a pity, really 23.47.09 Join einhirn_ [0] (n=Miranda@p5B03327D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 23.47.19 # k4y: yes, I think we all agree on that 23.47.43 # you know that you can get replacement battery if you like the x5 23.47.58 Part przemhb ("User is away.") 23.48.27 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 23.49.05 # advcomp2019: the X5 has some minor annoyances, if i could upgrade my experience that would be preferrable 23.49.28 # advcomp2019: also, i live outside of the US, so that might be hard for me to achieve 23.50.03 Join fdinel [0] (n=Miranda@modemcable097.232-203-24.mc.videotron.ca) 23.51.09 # out of the currently supported HDD players (that are reasonably [a year or two at the most] new), which are generally considered to be good players? 23.51.12 # replacement batteries should be available 23.52.34 # CameronSino JNC SSF-M3, 20G (PPCW0401, PPCW0504) 1100mAh 23.54.29 Join Absnthe [0] (n=Administ@ool-43561407.dyn.optonline.net) 23.54.39 Quit Schmogel (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 23.55.04 # jhMikeS: strange that there is no mention of a thermistor in the part list of the S 23.55.04 # k4y: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/BuyersGuide ? 23.55.35 # Dhraakellian: oh excellent, thanks 23.55.45 # toffe82: it's in the power block diagram 23.56.14 # what do I do if my ipod wont show up in ipodpatcher? 23.56.16 # yes but the part list doesn't show it, only standard resistor 23.57.05 # toffe82: it's obviously there and doesn't behave like a resistor at all :) 23.57.13 # Absnthe: what Ipod model exactly? 23.57.44 # I went with a SanDisk Sansa e260 a month or so (off of Woot.com, since I'm happily within the US). It's flash-based, but I plan on getting a microSDHC card within the next month or two, which should double, triple, or even quintuple the storage space, depending on what size I get 23.57.52 # I believe it is a 4G.