--- Log for 30.05.108 Server: leguin.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: @logbot_ Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 27 days and 10 hours ago 00.00.12 Quit DerPapst (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 00.00.27 Join DerPapst [0] (n=Der_Paps@p5B23C7A4.dip.t-dialin.net) 00.02.12 Join [CBR]Unspoken|w [0] (n=cbr@212.98.160.130) 00.02.59 # Hello. My Problem is: rockbox on an iPod Video (30 GB) and after shutting down and restarting after some time the battery is always empty. Any ideas? (r17397-080506) 00.09.35 # Lucky_: Do you mean, when you turn it on again you get a battery low warning? 00.09.47 # it seems to consume (a lot of) energy when turned off 00.11.25 # Llorean: no, it just wents off or does not even start 00.12.15 # Llorean: if i hear for example with a full loaded iPod a few minutes and turn it off and on the next day the battery is (nearly) empty 00.13.18 # how is the overall performance of the battery? how much runtime do you get in rockbox or the apple os? 00.13.59 # but if I keep it running or use the default firmware the battery lives a few hours, so the battery itself isn't the problem 00.15.19 # Lucky_: Have you tried running a benchmark on the battery? 00.15.32 # PaulJam: I didn't look at a clock but I think the battery could play about 5 hours or so 00.15.34 Join Zarggg [0] (n=z@216-15-73-111.c3-0.eas-ubr6.atw-eas.pa.cable.rcn.com) 00.15.37 # Llorean: no 00.15.56 Quit mirak (Remote closed the connection) 00.16.02 # Llorean: because I did not suspect the battery itself 00.16.24 # Very old batteries may trigger Rockbox's "low power" warning on spinups. 00.16.33 # but I could 00.16.57 Quit nedd1 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00.17.12 # it's not a warning it is really empty. sometimes it powers off at the bootloader 00.17.45 # does it help you if I run an benchmark on the battery? 00.18.02 # Lucky_: there's probably a hard low voltage poweroff function 00.18.30 # A battery benchmark would give us some clues. 00.18.34 # n1s: and that means? 00.18.37 # Lucky_: how many hours do you typically get out of a fully charged battery? 00.18.51 Quit CyBergRind|w (Connection timed out) 00.19.11 # Lucky_: if the power controllign chip's low voltage limit is triggered it will cut the battery power, no warning 00.21.22 # n1s: I didn't time the hours but I could take the exact time tomorrow 00.21.33 # n1s: a few hours 00.22.09 # Lucky_: I'm asking because significantly shorter runtime is a sign of battery decay 00.22.48 # so if you get ~ half of the runtime of a new battery i'd say it might need to be replaced 00.23.12 # n1s: the problem isn't a short runtime the problem is that it seems to loose energy during poweroff 00.23.14 Join kkurbjun [0] (n=kkurbjun@c-67-174-104-139.hsd1.co.comcast.net) 00.24.12 # Lucky_: _both_ shortened runtime and sudden voltage drops are a sign of a worn out battery, if you are experiencing one, it makes sense to look for the other 00.24.40 Quit Arathis ("Bye, bye") 00.27.03 # n1s: okay I could benchmark the exact time tomorrow and I can try to write a statistic of the energy with the benchmark plugin. I could try a few situations like playing until poweroff; playing, short poweroff, playing; playing, longer powerff, playing and so on. but it will take a few days 00.27.03 Quit n1s () 00.28.01 Quit petur ("Zzzzz") 00.30.17 Quit Nico_P (Remote closed the connection) 00.38.20 Quit faemir (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00.39.44 Quit obo ("bye") 00.44.49 Join r4v5 [0] (i=r4v5@loliserv.org) 00.46.29 Join votetrev [0] (n=trev@host-56-58-107-208.midco.net) 00.46.40 # http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/DevelopmentGuide has a 404 link to "contributing" in the last section. 00.47.54 Quit votetrev (Client Quit) 00.48.17 Join votetrev [0] (n=trev@host-56-58-107-208.midco.net) 00.50.45 Quit votetrev (Client Quit) 00.51.36 Quit ender` (" The last time someone listened to a Bush, a bunch of people wandered in the desert for 40 years.") 00.52.20 Join votetrevx [0] (n=trev@host-56-58-107-208.midco.net) 00.52.24 # hey guys 00.53.44 Quit nuonguy ("This computer has gone to sleep") 00.54.13 Quit herrwaldo ("Konversation terminated!") 00.54.15 # anyone know if its possible to play files back at like 1.5x speed 00.54.19 # using rockbox 00.54.44 # click-hold to bring up settings 00.54.45 # "pitch" 00.54.52 # it goes up to 200% 00.55.10 # but it shifts pitch; i don't think there's resampling to just time-stretch though 00.55.15 # What he means is "hold select to bring up the context menu" 00.55.37 # Of course, this depends on your player, not every player has it mapped to that, so see your manual for specifics. 00.56.53 Join linuxstb__ [0] (n=linuxstb@rockbox/developer/linuxstb) 00.56.59 Quit linuxstb_ (Read error: 101 (Network is unreachable)) 00.58.07 # ok 00.58.09 # awesome thanks guys 00.58.23 # thank you Llorean, those were the words i wanted to say but expressed better 00.58.29 # i have a 5.5 gen ipod 00.58.44 # i dont really mind pitch shift to much 00.58.49 # its the information i need to consume at a faster rate 01.02.33 Join midgey [0] (n=tjross@c-71-205-31-207.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) 01.05.48 Join PaulJam_ [0] (i=PaulJam_@vpn-3027.gwdg.de) 01.07.16 Quit ompaul (Client Quit) 01.07.49 Join Shaid [0] (n=adam@dsl-202-45-112-116-static.VIC.netspace.net.au) 01.19.31 Quit gregzx (Connection timed out) 01.21.57 # i hope this is developer-channel appropriate. afaict the beast DAC only supports 44.1KHz w/ the current code. 1) am i correct about that? 2) if so, how hard is it expected to be to extend that (ie, how likely is it that i could help change that, as somebody who's mostly-python-but-has-some-C) 01.22.48 # Rockbox itself only plays back to analog outputs at 44.1 on all the swcodec targets. 01.23.54 Quit PaulJam (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 01.26.35 Join nuonguy [0] (n=john@c-24-6-175-26.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) 01.26.50 # heh. sorry if that's documented somewhere. i missed it, i'll just continue resampling everything. 01.27.57 # Well, it's something that we (generally) want fixed, where output can be anything that the hardware itself supports, but there's no framework for this yet. 01.28.06 Quit HellDragon (Client Quit) 01.29.41 Join HellDragon [0] (i=jd@unaffiliated/helldragon) 01.31.30 # it seems like there's the beginnings of one, since there was stub code for changing samplerate in the beast driver, and it just doesn't do anything? the whole solution would be much bigger than just handing output, though, i'd think... :/ 01.32.02 # Well, changing the sample rate of the DAC is just a part of it. 01.32.10 # i'd imagine there's be some sort of business of setting sample rate/format for the next track, and then have it actually applied at an on-track-change trigger? 01.32.58 Quit PaulJam_ (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 01.33.15 # Yeah, if I understand correctly. The playback engine is geared right now to all data in the PCM buffer being 16-bit, 44.1khz, and all played data is resampled to this during/after decoding. 01.34.48 Nick fxb is now known as fxb__ (n=felixbru@h1252615.stratoserver.net) 01.36.01 # are the decoders expected to do that themselves, or do they decode data as it's encoded, and then pass the buffer to some unified resampling handler? 01.36.26 # if not done very carefully, the results will be horrible anyway not to mention samplerate switching during playback can sound outright nasty on some targets so gapless between files of differing samplerates will be impossible and muting between tracks needed 01.38.11 # dsp.c does the resampling btw on the 32-bit output samples 01.38.39 Quit Zarggg ("Pursued by a bear") 01.40.44 # instead of a on-track-change trigger, though, a sort of tagged-buffer setup might work, w/ buffers having a very brief header w/ their output settings, and the output driver doing whatever is necessary when it gets a buffer w/ changed options 01.41.04 # assuming the data from the next track will always be in a completely different buffer :/ 01.42.45 # and yeah, gapless would pretty much have to break on rate/format transitions. i don't *think* many albums would cause trouble there? 01.44.13 Join miepchen^schlaf_ [0] (n=miepchen@p54BF7F30.dip.t-dialin.net) 01.49.05 Quit dan_a (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 01.49.39 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 01.50.46 Quit tedrock () 01.53.08 # whats up with the attachment on the Wiki webhome page? 01.53.37 # it was added by unknown user and there is no history of it being added that I saw 01.53.38 # is tools/songdb.pl what i'd want to look at if i want to add db-update-on-transcode to my python transcode script? 01.58.39 Quit miepchen^schlaf (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 02.00.40 Quit DerPapst (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 02.00.55 Join DerPapst [0] (n=Der_Paps@p5B23C7A4.dip.t-dialin.net) 02.06.04 Part pixelma 02.08.13 Join DPi1 [0] (n=danny@209-150-54-42.c3-0.nwt-ubr3.sbo-nwt.ma.cable.rcn.com) 02.08.30 # Hey, does rockbox aim to do a stable release? 02.09.06 Join BHSPitLappy [0] (n=BHSPitLa@adsl-66-141-166-195.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net) 02.09.13 # MU{lappy}: I think it's horribly, horribly out of date. 02.09.40 # look at the C stuff, then? 02.10.03 # Best bet, yeah 02.10.42 # The database code should be standalone enough that making a small c app to do it should be reasonable. I think it used to be possible to compile one, but that build is probably broken. 02.10.56 # is rockbox aiming to have a stable release ever? 02.11.05 # i can still *read* C... too much python has pretty much ruined me for *writing* it :/ 02.12.07 # DPi1: Exactly one person has entered the channel since last time you asked that. 02.14.07 # well there are 130 people in here 02.14.51 # My point is that if nobody answers, and the situation doesn't change, there's no point in asking again. Your question doesn't disappear. 02.16.02 # Anyway, doing a quick google search will give you information about the last attempt Rockbox made for a release, and searching the site for "release" will get you more information. 02.16.19 # ok 02.16.21 # thanks 02.17.11 Nick DPi1 is now known as DPic (n=danny@209-150-54-42.c3-0.nwt-ubr3.sbo-nwt.ma.cable.rcn.com) 02.18.00 # ah, apps/tagcache.* is where i want to look, then. assuming i don't get bogged down in other transcoder details first. thanks. 02.21.37 # Llorean: am i doing research for something you know the answer to? I did a search from the site but it just came up with old email archives talking about a v3 release in 2006 02.23.08 Join cool_walking_ [0] (n=notroot@203-59-129-195.perm.iinet.net.au) 02.25.24 Part DPic 02.34.19 Join toffe82 [0] (n=chatzill@ppp-71-138-19-232.dsl.frs2ca.pacbell.net) 02.41.37 Join DaCapn [0] (n=dacapn@c-67-170-177-22.hsd1.or.comcast.net) 02.56.25 Join Mouser_X3 [0] (n=mouser_x@layl001.digis.net) 02.56.31 Quit votetrevx (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 02.56.35 Quit Mouser_X (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 03.04.58 # hrm. will rockbox even reread the on-disk db if i modify it from the PC while plugged in? 03.07.21 Quit goffa (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 03.10.28 Join Zarggg [0] (n=z@216-15-73-111.c3-0.eas-ubr6.atw-eas.pa.cable.rcn.com) 03.11.16 Nick JdGordon|zzz is now known as JdGordon (i=jonno@rockbox/developer/JdGordon) 03.16.45 Quit inversions (Connection timed out) 03.20.09 # whats the wps tag to show/hide the statusbar? 03.21.08 Quit DerPapst (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 03.21.12 # MU{lappy}: no idea, but that'd be pretty trivial to fix if there was a need 03.35.21 # hrm, since there seems to be *some* support for a pc database tool, i'd imagine it should? but i was really just seeing if anybody already knew. i'll see if i can find anything definitive in the src 03.36.46 Join drf|away [0] (i=your_mom@d14-69-192-60.try.wideopenwest.com) 03.36.57 # So, this is the official Rockbox channel, eh? 03.37.15 # development. there's another one for community. 03.37.28 # I just bought a Sansa e280 (original, not a v2) from www.woot.com a few days ago - Computer sees it in MSC mode but the installer can't find it, even in manual select 03.37.31 # Oh. 03.37.39 # Well I got a few ideas for stuff anyway :P 03.38.15 # On the Sansas, (I have a c250 with Rockbox), it would be nice if you could see the current song in the list when pressing enter, rather than it always going to the very beginning of the list (kinda like the existing firmware) 03.39.05 Nick drf|away is now known as drfsupercenter (i=your_mom@d14-69-192-60.try.wideopenwest.com) 03.39.44 Join votetrev [0] (n=trev@host-56-58-107-208.midco.net) 03.41.30 # drfsupercenter: I've never had a problem installing rb on my e200's 03.41.36 # Hm 03.41.43 # e280 is still considered a e200, right? 03.41.47 # yes 03.41.52 # OK 03.41.59 # Well I see "Sansa e280 (M:)" 03.42.14 # but using the auto-installer it says "no sansas found", even when I selected type e200 and drive M: 03.42.22 # I'd try it manually but I'm afraid to break something./.. 03.42.48 # your definatly sure its a v1? 03.42.51 # Yes 03.42.55 # firmware is 01.00.something 03.43.17 # ... yah, but what's the hardware version? 03.43.17 # drfsupercenter: you need to dl and run sansapatcher 03.43.36 # How do I find the hardware version? 03.43.43 # and o.o, sansapatcher is for manual, right? 03.43.51 # I installed it fine on my c250 with the auto-installer 03.43.52 # http://download.rockbox.org/bootloader/sandisk-sansa/sansapatcher/win32/sansapatcher.exe 03.43.53 # there's something with current rbutil that wasn't detecting the sansa until after i ran sansapatcher on it. 03.43.58 # Oh 03.44.00 # lemme try then' 03.44.05 # http://download.rockbox.org/bootloader/sandisk-sansa/e200/PP5022.mi4 03.44.06 # that i don't know, but the v1/v2 thing is about different revisions of the hardware, isn't it? 03.44.14 # btw, how do videos work on Rockbox? 03.44.21 # put them in the same directory then run sansapatcher.exe 03.44.22 # Is it sideways like normal? (I like that feature, I'm a Zune user) 03.44.23 # MU{lappy}: yes, but firmware 3.x versus 1.x is how you ID the hardware 03.44.38 # ah, ok. then he should be good 03.44.40 # JdGordon: you don't even need the firmware to run sansapatcher, i don't think 03.44.56 # * JdGordon isnt sure what version is compiled in for that build.. 03.45.06 # fair enough 03.45.19 # and speaking of Sansas, there's no way to force a e250 v2 to load in MSC, right? I tried the thing about turning lock on and holding rewind, but it just showed the lock symbol... 03.46.44 # i thought there was a mentioning of a way 03.46.55 # Not for v2 at least 03.47.00 # I tried what the site said, it didn't work.. 03.47.10 # and I hate having to use my mom's computer to transfer stuff 03.47.18 # MTP mode is stupid, thank god the e200s have an option o wi 03.47.20 # *to switch 03.47.46 # drfsupercenter: update the firmware, maybe 03.48.04 # update? or downgrade? LOL 03.48.12 # And heh, now the e280 worked, after I ran sansapatcher 03.48.15 # whatever. sidegrade 03.48.16 # * drfsupercenter is doing a full install 03.48.22 # But can you run v1 firmware on a v2? 03.48.27 # you're moving diagonally across mutually broken firmwares 03.48.30 # (I really don't care what Sansa firmware, since I use Rockbox LOL) 03.48.35 # no, they're different machines 03.48.47 # i'm saying on the v2 devices wikipage, it says " 03.48.51 # "As of Firmware version 03.01.14A, you can go to Settings/USB Mode and select between three options: "Auto Detect", "MTP" (Media Transport Protocol), and "MSC" (USB Media Storage Class Device aka USB Drive). " 03.49.03 # Let me see what I have 03.49.16 # wait I can't ATM, I only have one cable 03.49.20 # i don't know what you have but there are a bunch of fws floating around if you need to sidegrade 03.49.21 # (too lazy to open the new one) 03.49.24 # OK 03.49.29 # i don't know, mtp being a file-oriented rather than block-oriented protocol has definite advantages 03.49.39 # Can yo uboot the normal firmware from the player without plugging it in? 03.49.40 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 03.49.47 # yes, hit the power button 03.49.50 Quit votetrev (Remote closed the connection) 03.49.51 # but that's probably off-topic in here 03.49.53 # ... 03.49.54 # That boots Rockbox 03.49.58 # I didn't see an option to boot it 03.50.04 # I mean the normal firmware 03.50.06 Join votetrev [0] (n=trev@host-56-58-107-208.midco.net) 03.50.06 # power + rewind 03.50.11 # That didn't do anything 03.50.13 # I'll try it again though 03.50.26 # it makes a black screen 03.50.26 # Oh 03.50.27 # I see 03.50.28 DBUG Sent KICK drfsupercenter to server 03.50.28 # thanks 03.50.28 Kick (#rockbox drfsupercenter :No flooding!) by logbot_!n=bjst@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-0b6290880621a923 03.50.29 Join drfsupercenter [0] (i=your_mom@d14-69-192-60.try.wideopenwest.com) 03.50.39 # >_> so what if I talk fast 03.50.56 # talk fast, just press return less 03.50.56 # OK, wtf 03.51.03 # My firmware is apparently 01.01.05P 03.51.14 # yes, you have a v1 device with that firmware and rockbox installed 03.51.21 # That's supposedly less than 03.01.14A... they added that feature rather than removed? 03.51.24 # you should have a menu option for msc mode 03.51.31 # It says "v2" on the battery cover... is that an error then? 03.51.37 # And no, there's no option 03.51.41 # doesn't matter what teh cover says 03.51.48 # only the firmware determines what you have 03.51.49 # LOL 03.51.55 # Stupid refurbished stuff 03.52.10 # But point being, there's no selection. It's determined by your Windows Media Runtime. 03.52.14 # woot or whoever just takes a stack of sansas and puts them together from whatever working parts they have 03.52.19 # Yeah 03.52.34 # The c250 was from buy.com 03.52.38 # it was just refurbished 03.53.09 # Anyway, though, you're saying just upgrade firmware? How do I tell which one I have, there's like 6 03.53.12 # All very similarly named 03.53.29 # hang on, i'll see what i have, which definitely does have the feature 03.53.41 # http://files.zefie.com/PMP/sansa/c200/v1/firmware/1.01.00/ <-- That list 03.53.48 # All I see is the firmware and model number 03.54.00 # not the fancy terminology that site uses 03.54.16 # hm, would it be P1 since mine has a P in it? That'd be my best guess 03.54.52 # ohhhh you're talking c200s. 03.55.02 # Yes 03.55.09 # the c280 works fine, that has an option 03.55.14 # i'm not sure about mtp/msc in the c series. i apologize, i must have misread the c-to-e topic switch 03.55.17 Join m0f0x [0] (n=m0f0x@189-47-62-78.dsl.telesp.net.br) 03.55.22 # Heh 03.55.36 # when you get a chance, look at the firmware version of the c280, and then install that version on the other? 03.55.41 # Well if I do indeed have v1 (based on the 01 in the firmware), then that firmware change should work... 03.55.44 # but which one do I need? 03.55.46 # brb 03.57.08 Join jdcx95 [0] (n=jim@pool-72-76-20-37.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net) 03.57.54 Join linuxstb_ [0] (n=linuxstb@rockbox/developer/linuxstb) 04.00.09 Quit votetrev (Remote closed the connection) 04.00.26 Join votetrev [0] (n=trev@host-56-58-107-208.midco.net) 04.00.35 Join dan_a [0] (n=dan-mirc@217.23.173.156) 04.01.25 Join votetrevx [0] (n=trev@host-56-58-107-208.midco.net) 04.02.20 # JDGordon: in place of scramble, what does the sim run to make a binary? 04.09.04 Quit dan_a () 04.09.38 Quit linuxstb__ (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 04.11.58 # saratoga: you need to fix the extratools line in configure... scramble isnt needed 04.12.07 # genericbitmaptools should be all thats needed 04.13.47 Join Davide-NYC [0] (n=chatzill@user-0cev9vm.cable.mindspring.com) 04.16.15 Quit Thundercloud (Remote closed the connection) 04.18.38 Quit votetrev (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 04.24.50 Join goffa [0] (n=goffa@216.220.23.105) 04.25.43 Join votetrev [0] (n=trev@host-56-58-107-208.midco.net) 04.31.46 # so..... 04.31.54 # rockbox fat32? 04.32.57 # What does "bidirectional scroll limit" mean? 04.33.07 # I'm trying to make the scrolling go in one direction only... 04.33.15 # set it to 0 then (i tihnk) 04.33.28 # its the length a line should be so it goes both ways... 04.34.44 Join miepchen^schlaf [0] (n=miepchen@p54BF72B2.dip.t-dialin.net) 04.35.32 # but what's the percent mean 04.35.39 # like the 100%, is that 100% the width of the screen? 04.36.30 # not sure... probably explained in the manual 04.37.12 # got my 100 gb drive and i need to format it 04.37.22 # i've got cfdisk seeing it 04.37.24 Quit votetrevx (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 04.38.01 Join Mouser_X [0] (n=mouser_x@layl001.digis.net) 04.38.22 Quit Mouser_X3 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 04.40.37 Quit homielowe (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 04.40.45 Join homielowe [0] (n=eric_j_l@d205-250-152-29.bchsia.telus.net) 04.41.45 Join toffe82_ [0] (n=chatzill@ppp-71-142-15-43.dsl.frs2ca.pacbell.net) 04.44.03 Join ctaylorr [0] (n=ctaylorr@bas1-toronto43-1279396603.dsl.bell.ca) 04.44.50 Quit votetrev (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 04.47.05 Join linuxstb__ [0] (n=linuxstb@rockbox/developer/linuxstb) 04.48.00 Quit Davide-NYC (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 04.48.51 Quit linuxstb_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 04.50.46 Quit miepchen^schlaf_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 04.53.59 # Hmm 04.54.07 # Why do Sansas only support 22kHz for recording? Is that a hardware limitation? 04.54.13 # (I noticed the recordings suck no matter what firmware you use) 04.54.52 Quit nuonguy ("This computer has gone to sleep") 04.55.39 # I believe it's a hardware limitation 04.55.49 # That sucks 04.56.05 # My old RCA thumb-drive style player had awesome 44.1kHz recordings 04.56.13 # it's just only 1GB and recording as PCM WAV on a Sansa would be cook 04.56.14 # *cool 04.56.50 # Hmm 04.56.55 # Videos aren't showing up in Rockbox 04.56.59 # does it not support videos yet or something? 04.57.27 # look up mpegplayer in the wiki 04.57.36 Quit toffe82 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 04.58.05 # mpeg? 04.58.07 # so no mjpeg? 04.58.15 # (though that's fine, mjpeg and Sansa Media Converter suck) 05.00.25 # no 05.00.36 # Hm 05.00.37 # drfsupercenter, could you please stop using the enter so much too 05.00.49 # the wiki page you are looking for is PluginMpegplyer 05.00.54 # I can't find a download link... only a patch or something 05.00.56 # OK 05.01.08 # advcomp2019, sorry, I've been using IRC for 5 years and always talk like that... I'll try though 05.01.11 # what do you want to download? 05.01.48 # well.. i hope its fat32... copying files to it now 05.01.51 # the thing that lets me plays videos 05.01.53 # -s 05.01.58 # it comes with Rockbox like the rest of the plugins 05.02.14 # really...read that wiki page 05.02.20 # should have an f100 if i can get the case closed 05.03.13 # What wiki page? 05.03.21 # I just went to rockbox.org and searched for mpegplayer... 05.03.29 # search the manual. 05.03.44 Join homielowe_ [0] (n=eric_j_l@d205-250-152-29.bchsia.telus.net) 05.03.50 Quit homielowe (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 05.04.23 # drfsupercenter: hitthe wiki button...then paste the name of the page that i said in the box at the top...hit enter 05.04.33 Join linuxstb_ [0] (n=linuxstb@rockbox/developer/linuxstb) 05.04.37 # s/button/link 05.04.46 Quit linuxstb__ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 05.06.01 # OK 05.08.48 # Oh, so I just have to have mpeg? 05.08.53 # Does it matter if it's mpg1, mpg2, etc? 05.09.08 # did you read the page?...it answers that 05.09.09 # oh duh it says 05.09.12 # Yeah, I skimmed LOL 05.10.03 Quit Zarggg ("Pursued by a bear") 05.11.08 Quit perrikwp ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") 05.11.24 # Anyone know the resolution for the e200s? 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to have the gbsystem dir intact 06.09.06 # if you can mount it i'd just reinstall rockbox 06.09.09 # and hope that fixes it 06.09.19 # well that's the problem 06.09.26 # can't get it to boot into rockbox 06.09.51 # get a system error 000000020 or something like that 06.10.46 # i dunno if i needed to format it in windows 06.12.49 # did you install the rockbox bootloader and all that 06.13.05 # yeah 06.13.25 # that's the gbsystem right? 06.14.44 # i think its fwing or something like that 06.15.02 # yeah 06.15.47 # maybe check the wiki and google to find out what that error means and go from there 06.16.08 # yeah working on that too 06.17.53 # Did you turn off the battery and back on after installing the bootloader? 06.18.00 # Using the tiny switch. 06.18.02 # yep 06.21.17 Quit saratoga ("CGI:IRC") 06.21.54 # i'm wondering if it can recognize fat32 formatted from linux 06.22.19 Quit miepchen^schlaf () 06.25.53 Join BlakeJohnson86 [0] (n=bjohnson@c-24-118-135-22.hsd1.mn.comcast.net) 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12.23.49 Part lolmaus 12.23.54 Join lolmaus [0] (i=lolmaus@83.167.114.28) 12.27.00 Join Nico_P [50] (n=nicolas@rockbox/developer/NicoP) 12.28.09 # Why is there no manual for Cowon M3? :( Am i a complete loser? 12.29.14 # I would like to look through the history of changes. Is there one? 12.30.30 # For a history of changes, see the small links under the "Subversion" table on the homepage of the website. 12.31.04 # Or for major changes only (updated manually) - http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/MajorChanges 12.33.23 # and I'm sure you can join in and help us get the things done to make the M3 manual complete 12.34.27 # lolmaus: there's no manual for the M3 yet because it is problematic and will probably take a long time to adapt the current style (of button tables mostly) to the M3 remote and main player input - the remotes haven't been considered in the other manuals yet 12.35.00 Part B4gder 12.35.05 Join desowin [0] (n=desowin@atheme/member/desowin) 12.35.05 # Oh 12.35.16 # linuxstb, thx 12.35.33 # pixelma, so much trouble with the fact that some buttons are on the remote? 12.36.59 Quit japc_ ("Ex-Chat") 12.37.51 Join vort3x [0] (n=vortex@unaffiliated/dfa001) 12.39.24 # we will probably need another column for the remote buttons or something (in places where both is possible) and somehow, somewhere need to explain the remote and its buttons etc. I don't even know whether there is a "plan" or list of things that need to be done for it 12.41.07 # but it's important for the M3... 12.43.49 # lolmaus: The manual is written in latex with a lot of macros to automatically adjust things for the capabilities/layouts of different players etc. Those all need to be adjusted etc. for the M3 12.44.34 # lolmaus: It isn't just a case of writing it - that would be easier the first time but keeping all the manuals up-to-date if they were independent would be even more difficult than it is now 12.47.23 Quit Miles (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 12.48.18 Join tvelocity_ [0] (n=tony@85.72.141.176) 12.50.42 Quit Nico_P (Remote closed the connection) 12.52.41 # Is amiconn the one who codes the M3 part? 12.52.52 # I've talked to him when i first tried Rockbox 12.53.10 # I failed to use it 'cause there was a screen ripple bug 12.53.24 # amiconn said he was going to fix that next 12.53.30 # I wonder if he had 12.54.21 # http://svn.rockbox.org/viewvc.cgi?view=rev;revision=17621 12.58.34 # pixelma, and it's already in the latest build? 12.58.43 Quit ender` (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 12.58.43 Join ender` [0] (i=krneki@84.255.206.8) 12.58.48 # if it's commited, then yes 12.59.12 # because there're automated builds on commits, which doesn't take long, thanks to build farm 12.59.13 # How to find out whether it is? :) 12.59.46 # latest available build is r17660 - the fix was in r17621 (r = revision) 12.59.49 # you go into current build page, and check the rNUMBER here under your target 13.00.12 # if it's higher than commit you want (in this case 17621), then yes, it's included 13.00.23 # and viewvc (what I linked) only knows about things that changed in svn... 13.00.34 # (unless it wasn't later reverted, but that's unlikely to happen) 13.00.58 # or should I say "was" instead of "wasn't"? 13.01.55 # Great, thank you ^_^ 13.02.34 # desowin, you should say either "unless it was" or "if it wasn't" i think :) 13.02.46 Quit tvelocity (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 13.03.06 Join miepchen^schlaf [0] (n=miepchen@p54BF72B2.dip.t-dialin.net) 13.04.54 Quit midgey () 13.06.55 # Sorry for a lame question, i've failed to find any guidelines how to set up the TSS Engine and the LAME Encoder. 13.08.00 Quit Arathis ("Bye, bye") 13.08.22 Join Arathis [0] (n=doerk@p508A3CFE.dip.t-dialin.net) 13.09.01 Join ctaylorr [0] (n=ctaylorr@bas1-toronto43-1279396603.dsl.bell.ca) 13.09.36 # you mean TTS for the voice UI? And do you just want voice to speak menu items etc. or also talk clips for your files? Also, the lame encoder won't help you for voice on an M3 13.10.42 # I dunno. There's a "TSS and Encoder" tab in the Rockbox utility and i don't know how to set it up. 13.12.05 Quit miepchen^schlaf () 13.12.14 # It says "Configuration INVALID (=)" 13.13.00 Join fdinel [0] (n=Miranda@modemcable097.232-203-24.mc.videotron.ca) 13.13.57 Join linuxstb_ [0] (n=linuxstb@rockbox/developer/linuxstb) 13.14.40 # lolmaus: what OS are you on? 13.14.55 # pixelma, XP SP3 13.15.23 Quit linuxstb (Nick collision from services.) 13.15.29 Nick linuxstb_ is now known as linuxstb (n=linuxstb@rockbox/developer/linuxstb) 13.16.28 Join AndyI [0] (n=pasha_in@212.14.205.32) 13.17.20 Join miepchen^schlaf [0] (n=miepchen@p54BF72B2.dip.t-dialin.net) 13.19.03 # and do you have any tts engines installed on your computer? Just tried with rbutil 1.0.5 and my M5 and here's what I had to do (also XP SP3 and SAPI tts engine installed) to get a valid configuration at least: press "change" and in the next window chose "SAPI TTS engine" from the engine dropdown list and "Rockbox speex encoder" from the encoder one. 13.20.40 Quit fdinel ("Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org") 13.21.44 # if you just want to try how voice works in the menus you could simply download the voice file from rockbox.org ("Daily builds and Voices" from the current build page) 13.22.57 Join Thundercloud [0] (n=thunderc@resnet13.nat.lancs.ac.uk) 13.25.26 # or chose "Install voice file" in rbutil, I think it'll just download the file too 13.27.13 Quit ctaylorr (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 13.28.49 Quit ch4os (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 13.33.57 Join ch4os [0] (n=ch4os@unaffiliated/ch4os/x-059673) 13.35.30 # Why does M3 manual has to have a separate table for remote buttons? All remote buttons clone the ones on the body. 13.38.33 # wrong 13.39.20 # amiconn, hi! ^_^ 13.39.32 # I've just installed the latest build into my M3 13.39.34 Part rooaus 13.39.52 # I've still got some screen ripple. A little. Mostly when reading from the HDD. 13.40.17 # Ooooh and i've also catched the blank screen. :( 13.40.29 # Dam' :( 13.41.10 # amiconn, the blank screen bug means that i still can't use Rockbox. :( 13.43.35 # I've got screen ripple while playing and then the screen goes blank. The device continues to work, everything fine, the backlight is okay, but the screen is blank. :( 13.45.10 Quit feisar (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 13.49.55 Join feisar [0] (i=jljhook@irkki.fi) 13.49.56 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 13.50.43 Join Miles [0] (i=[U2FsdGV@65.98.26.250) 13.53.22 # * amiconn waited almost a week before committing the fix for the iaudios, and only got positive reports so far 13.54.25 # amiconn, so i'm just a loser with no chance to have a rockbox on my M3? 13.57.46 Join DerDome [0] (n=DerDome@dslb-082-083-224-231.pools.arcor-ip.net) 14.02.53 Join Horscht [0] (n=Horscht@xbmc/user/horscht) 14.04.51 Join TaylorKillian [0] (n=tkillian@wl198075.wright.edu) 14.05.52 # LinusN: I had a question for you if you have time 14.06.01 Join Seed [0] (n=ben@bzq-84-108-237-178.cablep.bezeqint.net) 14.06.48 # I just want to confirm that fwimg02.dat is the bootloader and rockbox.gigabeat is the kernel 14.06.48 Quit jdcx95 (Remote closed the connection) 14.07.24 # I've been trying to launch rockbox on qemu with little success 14.08.43 Join Zarggg [0] (n=z@216-15-73-111.c3-0.eas-ubr6.atw-eas.pa.cable.rcn.com) 14.09.05 # TaylorKillian: FWIMG01.DAT is the bootloader 14.12.39 # what does fwimg02.dat do? I know that is what rockbox replaces 14.13.31 # jjust looked it up, i see i'm mistaken 14.14.30 Join domonoky [0] (n=Domonoky@rockbox/developer/domonoky) 14.14.41 # I'm not an expert on the gigabeat, but there is an initial bootloader in flash ROM, which I assume then loads fwimg01.dat, which (when Rockbox is installed), loads the rockbox.gigabeat file. 14.15.19 # alright, thats what i was thinking, thanks 14.16.17 # i have gotten qemu to load rockbox.elf and not crash, but thats about all i can get out of it 14.17.06 # not even the bootloader will continue without crashing 14.17.11 # How much of the gigabeat's hardware is emulated? I assume you've at least mapped some RAM? 14.18.46 # I'm not all that sure. I know the cpu should work well enough, and it isn't complaining about the memory 14.19.10 # i have looked at the rockbox.map file, but I'm not quite sure how to apply that 14.20.47 # The linker files are probably easier to understand - see firmware/target/arm/s3c2440/app.lds 14.21.21 # alright, I'll take a look at those, thanks 14.23.48 # do you know if rockbox is based off any other distrobution? linux for example. or is it build from the ground up? 14.24.29 Quit Seed (Remote closed the connection) 14.25.20 Quit Horscht ("We don't make mistakes, we just have happy little accidents") 14.25.32 # From the ground up. 14.25.33 # TaylorKillian: rockbox is not based on linux, its built from scratch.. 14.26.58 # alright 14.26.59 Join crash91 [0] (n=crash@41.232.205.37) 14.28.20 Join Seed [0] (n=ben@bzq-84-108-237-178.cablep.bezeqint.net) 14.28.35 Quit domonoky (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 14.28.51 Quit Seedy (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 14.29.50 Join Horscht [0] (n=Horscht@xbmc/user/horscht) 14.31.07 Join dabujo [0] (i=xx@p4FDB1F09.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 14.31.43 Join Schmogel [0] (n=Miranda@p508C95EC.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 14.43.13 Join mf0102 [0] (n=michi@85.127.182.43) 14.54.05 Quit DerDome ("Leaving.") 14.54.50 Quit s3 (Remote closed the connection) 14.55.58 Join s3 [0] (i=Mi-Mi-M@AGrenoble-152-1-36-123.w82-122.abo.wanadoo.fr) 14.56.24 Join svpe [0] (n=svpe@p5490473B.dip.t-dialin.net) 14.58.30 # #wikipedia-de 14.58.38 # oops ;) 15.02.07 Join Arathis2 [0] (n=doerk@p508A394F.dip.t-dialin.net) 15.04.53 Quit Seed (Remote closed the connection) 15.04.53 Join Seed [0] (n=ben@bzq-84-108-237-178.cablep.bezeqint.net) 15.20.11 Part LinusN 15.20.59 Join linuxstb_ [0] (n=linuxstb@rockbox/developer/linuxstb) 15.21.54 Quit Arathis (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 15.22.28 Quit crash91 ("Ex-Chat") 15.24.01 Quit Arathis2 ("Bye, bye") 15.24.28 Quit linuxstb (Nick collision from services.) 15.24.29 Nick linuxstb_ is now known as linuxstb (n=linuxstb@rockbox/developer/linuxstb) 15.29.38 Join LambdaCalculus37 [0] (i=44a0430f@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-d12c39183d74cec5) 15.40.06 Join theli_ua [0] (n=theli@92.112.31.206) 15.41.20 Join borges|afk [0] (n=bruges@brln-4d0c3fcf.pool.mediaWays.net) 15.50.00 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 16.00.04 Join DerPapst [0] (n=Der_Paps@p5B23DC83.dip.t-dialin.net) 16.00.23 Quit mf0102 (Remote closed the connection) 16.04.54 Join nplus [0] (n=nplus@141.25.Globcom.Net) 16.05.17 Part theli_ua 16.10.07 Join theli_ua [0] (n=theli@92.112.31.206) 16.10.29 Quit Nibbler (Remote closed the connection) 16.21.30 Quit s3 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 16.22.20 Quit Ragnor (Nick collision from services.) 16.22.30 Join Ragnor [0] (n=Ragnor@dslb-084-062-095-081.pools.arcor-ip.net) 16.29.43 # jhMikeS: Ping! 16.31.38 # petur: i was just wondering, do you still work on the h300 bootloader problems? I'm getting more and more tempted to try an unofficial one with RTC wakeup but i would really prefer to use an official one. 16.32.22 Join kugel [0] (n=chatzill@unaffiliated/kugel) 16.32.28 # album art seems to be broken on the sim 16.33.04 # PaulJam: I'd like too :/ I think the bootloader on the CFMod wiki page contains the RTC alarm 16.34.31 # nevermind! 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I could test but hoped that someone who knows the code could just tell me :) 18.37.10 # pixelma: Well, its true for %C so im guessing %pb as well, ill test it if you give me a min 18.38.45 Quit Schmogel ("Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org") 18.42.49 # pixelma: It _should_ be relative to the viewport, and I'm pretty sure it is. If not, then it's a bug (IMO). 18.43.15 # positioning seems to be alright but not sure about the length 18.43.47 # * pixelma needs to test in a different sim 18.43.51 # pixelma: It is relative, just checked. 18.45.17 Quit goffa (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 18.46.59 # pixelma: It acts normally, just the coordinates are relative..the width/height/length etc. are all normal. 18.49.24 # ok, I see now 18.52.08 Quit DaCapn () 18.52.42 # crash91: concerning you latest forum post, could you paste the .wps file somewhere? i think those lines are caused by some wps tags which shouldn't display any text, but still clear the line on the display. i think %C is one of those. for me it helped to insert blank lines, so the tags that don't dilplay text are "below" the visible area. 18.52.43 # thanks for testing and the answer 18.53.27 # PaulJam: Refresh the page. 18.53.42 # pixelma: you're welcome 18.54.36 Join Schmogel [0] (n=Miranda@p508C95EC.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 18.54.51 Quit desowin (Remote closed the connection) 18.57.53 Quit Zarggg (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 19.00.15 Quit merbanan ("Leaving") 19.03.49 Join bertrik_ [0] (n=bertrik@055-023-045-062.dynamic.caiway.nl) 19.09.58 Quit crash91 ("Ex-Chat") 19.17.33 Join desowin [0] (n=desowin@atheme/member/desowin) 19.17.46 Join midgey [0] (n=tjross@c-71-205-31-207.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) 19.18.51 Quit Arathis ("Bye, bye") 19.19.02 Join BigBambi [0] (n=Alex@rockbox/staff/BigBambi) 19.19.42 Quit Horscht ("I got raided by the FBI and all i got is this lousy quit message") 19.20.23 Join stripwax [0] (n=Miranda@87-194-34-169.bethere.co.uk) 19.20.57 Join bughunter2 [0] (n=Jelle@77.164.66.124) 19.21.30 Quit bertrik (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 19.27.39 Join archos_6000 [0] (n=4a5f7f65@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-aa38852fb838b279) 19.28.01 Join borges|afk [0] (n=bruges@brln-4d0c3fcf.pool.mediaWays.net) 19.28.30 # hi all, can someone please point me to the most up to day information on flashing rockbox to an archos player (old version, only 6GB) 19.28.39 # date* 19.29.01 # all i see is thi http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/BootBox 19.30.53 # Wow, that page needs a serious re-write. 19.31.03 # Do you have Rockbox already flashed onto the player? 19.31.12 # I *think* the RomBox wiki page is more up to date, but I keep hearing that descriptions of the Archos flashing procedure need to be updated (and don't know much about it myself unfortunately) 19.31.30 # that applies to the manual as well, I believe 19.31.39 # pixelma: A lot of the pages are marked in big red letters that the information contained within is seriously out of date. 19.31.55 # no i only added archos.mod and .rockbox to my device 19.32.08 # but i want to get rid of archos firmware 5.06 and only use rockbox 19.32.18 Quit svpe ("leaving") 19.32.52 # right now I am dumping all the data on my archos player to my laptop...it's going to take another 45 min... 19.32.53 # archos_6000: Did you already check whether your box is flashable? 19.33.12 # amiconn, how do i do that? 19.33.18 # Flashing it won't influence any data on the hdd 19.33.27 Join wpyh [0] (n=william@th245062.ip.tsinghua.edu.cn) 19.33.46 # according to the manual (http://download.rockbox.org/manual/rockbox-player/rockbox-buildch10.html#x13-17300010.5) it talks about flashing it 19.33.59 # i know but if the flash fails then I won't be able to access the data 19.34.32 # System -> Debug -> View HW Info 19.35.00 # If you see Flash M=?? D=??, then you can't do it. 19.35.02 # i'm in usb mode right now, I will check that out as soon as I can :) 19.35.10 # Okay. 19.35.48 # hi, i have a question about the ipod video 80g port 19.35.51 # The walk through the various items until you see "Flash:" 19.36.17 # There are either some values displayed, or just ??,?? 19.36.22 # wpyh: Go ahead and ask. 19.36.29 # I noticed an empty page on the wiki 19.36.35 # If you only see the question marks, you're out of luck and the thing isn't flashable 19.36.40 # about the problems porting RB over to the video 19.36.53 # I mean video 5.5G 80GB model 19.37.06 # This is the page: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IpodEightyGB 19.37.08 # That page is old and holds no meaning anymore. 19.37.21 # That was before we could figure out how to access the disk on the 80GB models. 19.37.28 # Rockbox works just fine on them now. 19.37.35 # Yeah, so I looked at the older revisions to find that the disk access was done in 1024 byte blocks 19.37.39 # Yeah 19.38.00 # Anyway, I'm new here, and I didn't search the archives, so... 19.38.04 # So you can install and enjoy Rockbox with no worries. :) 19.38.08 # It *is* done in 1024 byte blocks, because the hdd in the G5.5/80 requires it 19.38.18 # (drive firmware shortcoming) 19.38.30 # I'm thinking of buying one now, but I'm planning to swap it out with a CF card 19.38.31 Quit desowin ("KVIrc 4.0.0 Insomnia http://www.kvirc.net/") 19.38.48 # I'm wondering whether it will work... 19.39.04 # why get an 80 with its quirks, and not a 30 that is cheaper 19.39.06 # Um, so Toshiba didn't release a firmware to fix this? 19.39.23 # It isn't a bug in that sense 19.39.28 # Because the 80 GB model (supposedly) has better battery life and better screen? 19.39.42 # It should, although if you want to go CF anyway you probably should start from the 30GB model 19.39.49 # The 30GB models were slightly revised to have the better screen as well. 19.39.51 # BigBambi: It's just a limitation though :) 19.39.53 # It's slimmer and cheaper 19.40.16 # wpyh: is the battery any bigger? The 80 has more memory for buffering that is pretty inconsequential if you are going to swap for flash 19.40.22 # If you want looong runtimes, ipods aren't for you anyway 19.40.32 # I live in China, so I'll check the local availability :) 19.40.44 # I'm buying secondhand :) 19.41.00 # * BigBambi has something at the back of his mind that says the 80s do in fact have larger batteries 19.41.02 # BigBambi: I heard that the battery is bigger 19.41.14 # ok... 19.41.14 # wpyh: make sure you don't get a Classic 19.41.17 # but as amiconn says, if you want battery life, don't go ipod 19.41.19 # BigBambi: They have a slightly higher capacity. 19.41.30 # Yeah, I don't like the Classic's design anyway 19.41.35 # LambdaCalculus37: ok, cheers 19.41.54 # wpyh: And it doesn't work with Rockbox anyway. 19.42.07 # Nah, the battery life is not why I go for ipods; it's why I wanted a 80 GB model instead of a 30 GB one 19.42.18 Quit miepchen^schlaf () 19.42.23 # Yeah, I heard that the Classic's FW is encrypted 19.42.31 # wpyh: If we may be a bit bold for a moment? Can I recommend a player? 19.42.43 # Wonder whether it's the same encryption as the Nano 2G 19.42.55 # LambdaCalculus37: OK :) 19.43.17 # Why not look for a Toshiba Gigabeat F or S series instead? 19.44.06 # You get good capacity, very good battery life, and no silly proprietary USB "dock" connector. 19.44.08 # Ah, I considered that option, but didn't find *any* of them online, for sale, here in China. 19.44.17 # Not even eBay? 19.44.51 # I saw a few on Taobao, but they don't seem good (the place's full of tricksters) 19.44.58 # um... I didn't look on eBay :P 19.45.25 # Here, we're mostly trading stuff on forums and BBS's (you know, the telnet type...) 19.45.34 Join gevaerts_ [0] (n=fg@195-144-092-169.dyn.adsl.xs4all.be) 19.46.04 # But since you mentioned it, I will keep an eye on those models 19.46.28 # Ah gevaerts has come 19.46.34 Quit gevaerts (Nick collision from services.) 19.46.37 Nick gevaerts_ is now known as gevaerts (n=fg@195-144-092-169.dyn.adsl.xs4all.be) 19.46.51 # gevaerts: are you the one working on the USB driver for the Meizu players? 19.47.17 # wpyh: I'm the one _planning_ to work on that, yes :) 19.47.34 # I'll be back when I can check my FW information thanks :) 19.47.38 Quit archos_6000 ("CGI:IRC 0.5.9 (2006/06/06)") 19.48.02 # Oh, so that's just a plan :) 19.48.21 # I also have Meizu players, so I'm actually looking forward to those ports 19.48.42 # Do you happen to run Linux? 19.48.45 # wpyh: Download the Rockbox source code and join the fun... 19.48.55 # LambdaCalculus37: What's the typical gigabeat runtime? 19.49.08 # wpyh: yes, why ? 19.49.12 # Btw, it seems my mini's runtime got a lot better by going CF 19.49.21 # linuxstb: I've downloaded it, compiled it, ran it on my H10, then sold the H10 because I didn't like it... :p 19.49.23 # * amiconn needs to measure 19.49.53 # gevaerts: because I run (almost) exclusively linux, and I can't do the DFU thing to flash the FW on Linux 19.49.56 # amiconn: JdGordon|afk reported a very large increase after going cf on his mini 19.50.04 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 19.50.08 # amiconn: how much better? with OF? with RB? 19.50.19 # amiconn: I don't have an F (my girlfriend's getting one soon), but until jhMikeS gets proper power management working on the beast, I'm only getting around 5-6 hours of runtime. 19.50.47 Quit nplus (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 19.50.50 # wpyh: RB of course. The OF is completely useless for me 19.51.25 # amiconn: oh :) Maybe you can put the results up on the BatteryRuntime page 19.51.49 # Yeah. With the original microdrive I got around 9 hours 19.51.56 # (it's a 2nd Gen Mini) 19.52.19 # gevaerts: have you found a way to use the DFU tool on Linux? 19.52.34 # No, but I also haven't really looked yet 19.52.39 # gevaerts: because if I try some test code, I'd most certainly have to use it 19.52.41 # ok 19.52.51 Nick fxb is now known as fxb__ (n=felixbru@h1252615.stratoserver.net) 19.53.14 # I've tried it using QEMU running Win XP 19.53.18 # I used the USB passthrough 19.53.38 # but QEMU crashed when I clicked the "Download" button 19.53.49 Join linuxstb_ [0] (n=linuxstb@rockbox/developer/linuxstb) 19.53.52 # any ideas? 19.54.19 # LambdaCalculus37: does the power management have a large impact? 19.57.50 Join votetrev [0] (n=trev@host-56-58-107-208.midco.net) 19.58.33 Quit tvelocity_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 19.58.55 Quit Schmogel (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 19.58.59 Join shotofadds [0] (n=rob@rockbox/developer/shotofadds) 19.59.11 Join tvelocity_ [0] (n=tony@79.131.66.152) 19.59.42 # linuxstb: out of interest how much was your M200? do you reckon an M230 (512Mb) for £15.51 delivered is good value? 20.00.57 # My 4GB (M250) was £19.99, plus about 1.99 postage IIRC 20.01.19 # I'm thinking the smallest capcity possible might help us with the NAND issues...# 20.01.31 # where was that from? 20.01.37 # I have the second smallest capacity... the m240. 20.01.44 # bigpockets.co.uk - I've just checked, and they don't have it any more. 20.02.34 # * linuxstb_ checks his device and sees it is an m260 (which is the 4GB) 20.02.35 Join Schmogel [0] (n=Miranda@p508C95EC.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 20.02.54 # Matching model numbers with capacity is obviously beyond Sandisk... 20.02.59 Part votetrev 20.03.19 # shotofadds: http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/offer-listing/B000CDGW8Y/ref=sr_1_olp_1?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1212170558&sr=1-1 20.03.19 # I found one gigabeat (maybe the F series) for 600 RMB (~$90) but it couldn't charge 20.03.23 # m250 should be 2GB then, to match the sandisk model numbering scheme 20.03.33 Quit stripwax (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 20.03.45 # wpyh: The battery might be old. But you can replace them. 20.03.53 # and another gigabeat (F20 I think) for 1000 RMB (~$110) @_@ 20.04.12 # the seller says that the charging circuit may be broken 20.04.21 # amiconn: The m200 series are 230 (512MB), 240 (1GB), 250 (2GB), and 260 (4GB). 20.04.38 # He says "it can only be used while connected to power" 20.04.59 # LambdaCalculus37: The e200 and c200 series use the exact same scheme... 20.05.01 # And I also found a bunch of gigabeat U series, which I think is not supported (at all) 20.05.06 Quit linuxstb (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 20.05.14 Nick linuxstb_ is now known as linuxstb (n=linuxstb@rockbox/developer/linuxstb) 20.05.30 # x30 (512B), x40 (1GB), x50 (2GB), x60 (4GB), x70 (6GB) and x80 (8GB) 20.05.44 # Not all series are available with all capacities of course 20.05.48 # wpyh: No. Just the F/X series, plus the S is "almost" supported. (the S works quite well, but the port is very new). 20.06.17 # I didn't find an S series here... 20.06.34 # I think they're even rarer than the F. 20.06.34 # well, I'm actually from Indonesia, so I'll try to look for one while at home 20.06.46 # The install method for the S is rather daunting at this time. 20.06.46 # I'm in China only formy undergrad 20.06.55 # ok 20.07.05 # LambdaCalculus37: "daunting"? 20.07.56 # Yes, because you have to compile it yourself, plus patch an original firmware file with the Rockbox bootloader, then upload it to the device somehow (the S is MTP only), and also send a rockbox.tar file to it as well. 20.07.56 # I might put in an order from here: http://www.somersetcameras.co.uk/products/sandisk-m230-512mb-mp3-player/1437/ 20.07.58 Join bluebrother [0] (n=dom@rockbox/staff/bluebrother) 20.08.08 # it's almost certain to be a v1 at that capacity/price 20.08.08 # * LambdaCalculus37 takes a breath 20.08.39 # LambdaCalculus37: No, the rockbox.tar step isn't needed any more - the Rockbox bootloader has a UMS driver. 20.08.53 # linuxstb: Ah yes, that's right. :) 20.08.56 # But right now I must dash. Real Life wins again... 20.09.07 # Been a while since I last did an initial install. :) 20.09.24 # See ya, shotofadds! 20.09.33 Quit shotofadds ("Leaving") 20.09.36 # LambdaCalculus37: well, the only "daunting" part is transferring the fw to the device which is MTP only 20.09.43 # :) 20.09.51 # Not the compiling and patching part? :) 20.09.54 # linuxstb: oh 20.10.20 # Uh, compiling is only ../tools/configure right? Then make 20.10.32 # patching, well just cat x | patch for me :p 20.10.45 # wpyh: The S installation is documented here - http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/GigabeatSInstallation 20.10.57 # linuxstb: Thanks 20.11.00 # Can Rockbox charge on the S yet? I haven't been following the commits... 20.11.16 # I don't have it and can't find it here in China, but I'm quite interested anyway :) 20.12.18 # linuxstb: No, not yet. jhMikeS has been doing some power management commits, but charging isn't working yet. 20.12.40 # He's only been making the commits so that he can better understand how it works, as the comments state. 20.13.23 # That's also why he told me to stick with a dual-booting bootloader for now. 20.14.39 # By the way, about the ipod video 80 GB: is it detected by determining the IPod version, or by determining the disk type/model/firmware? I can't seem to find it in the sources. 20.17.54 Join miepchen^schlaf [0] (n=miepchen@dslb-088-074-052-044.pools.arcor-ip.net) 20.25.12 Nick amishfury__ is now known as SgtPnkks (n=wangchun@74-137-160-38.dhcp.insightbb.com) 20.25.55 Join obo [0] (n=obo@rockbox/developer/obo) 20.30.24 # hi wpyh! 20.30.36 # markun: hi too :) 20.38.32 Quit Mouser_X (Nick collision from services.) 20.41.28 Join archos_6000 [0] (n=4a5f7f65@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-31bf5dcd8cb8971f) 20.42.36 # hi all i'm trying to find resources on flashing my archos player (6gb) version and i checked my HW INfo and see FLash: BF, D6 20.46.56 Quit archos_6000 ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 20.47.28 # Well, I was about to say that he was in luck. 20.49.48 Join desowin [0] (n=desowin@atheme/member/desowin) 20.52.15 Quit nuonguy ("This computer has gone to sleep") 20.53.59 Join inversions [0] (n=sam@cpc1-bele3-0-0-cust658.belf.cable.ntl.com) 20.57.08 Join gregzx [0] (n=chatzill@dta85.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) 20.57.50 Nick bertrik_ is now known as bertrik (n=bertrik@055-023-045-062.dynamic.caiway.nl) 21.07.38 Join mcuelenaere [0] (n=mcuelena@rockbox/developer/mcuelenaere) 21.18.40 Quit midgey (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 21.21.50 Quit bughunter2 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 21.23.16 Quit Mathiasdm ("Yuuw!") 21.25.34 Join midgey [0] (n=tjross@c-71-205-31-207.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) 21.32.38 Quit LambdaCalculus37 ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") 21.33.58 # linuxstb: at what dir is that download currently? 21.36.17 # It appears to be finished... Downloaded: 3,836,171,524 bytes in 2427 files 21.36.32 Quit SirFunk (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 21.36.32 Join DerPapst_ [0] (n=Der_Paps@p5B23F8F5.dip.t-dialin.net) 21.36.40 # wow, nice 21.36.49 # 4gigs of data.. 21.37.00 # is that including 2soc & 4hw? 21.38.22 Join SirFunk [0] (n=Sir@206-159-155-246.netsync.net) 21.38.55 # mcuelenaere: No, I'll start those now. 21.39.07 # * linuxstb discovers the c100 has the same LCD as the c200... 21.39.19 # ok thanks; now where are you going to upload these files? 21.39.48 # I've no idea... It will take about 3 days to upload that anywhere... 21.40.21 # hmm I think there are some redundant files in there, maybe it could get compressed a bit 21.40.24 # but still, it is huge 21.42.26 # The 01linux directory is 3.6GB 21.42.53 # has summer-of-code started yet? 21.42.59 # And about 1.7GB of that is the toolchain 21.43.11 # bertrik: I think it officially started last Monday 21.43.24 # are those (3d party) tools that big? or is that just the source of the linux kernel? 21.43.30 # But I think some of our students are still doing their exams... 21.43.43 # ok, nice to hear 21.45.27 # mcuelenaere: http://www.davechapman.f2s.com/rockbox/3sw-ls-LR.txt 21.45.56 # linuxstb: 3 days? o.O 21.46.52 # amiconn: Maybe... It's been a while since I uploaded anything that large. 21.47.14 # * amiconn would estimate 1 day for uploading 4 GB via his connection 21.48.58 # linuxstb: perhaps only the really interesting files should get uploaded? ie the docs and the patches against linux/celinux/µcos/... ? 21.50.05 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 21.52.00 # * linuxstb likes how the documentation for ecos from that ftp site starts - "1. Download GNU toolchain source code from Internet and build it"... 21.58.19 Quit DerPapst (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 21.59.02 Quit borges|afk (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 21.59.22 Quit bertrik ("bye") 22.00.03 Join borges|afk [0] (n=bruges@brln-4d0c3fcf.pool.mediaWays.net) 22.02.35 # * pixelma thinks its weird that you can simulate the hold switch in the sim (so the status shows up in the statusbar and the WPS) without the other keys being "deactivated" 22.09.56 Join stoffel [0] (n=sfr@p57B4D9B1.dip.t-dialin.net) 22.15.18 # it'd be fun to add a mips target... 22.16.33 # hmm anyone familar with the sim & touchscreen support ? (TOUCHPAD_POINT) 22.16.56 # Bagder: it would require a toolchain update to all build servers 22.17.04 # yeps 22.17.14 # well, to all that want to build mips at least 22.17.22 # BTW, the C54xx would require that too :) 22.17.27 # build servers can opt-in for particular archs 22.17.34 # ah I didn't know that 22.18.45 # I have even been offered a Jz4740 player for free/Rockbox development :) 22.18.55 # ah, nice 22.21.37 Join nedd1 [0] (n=john@nat/sun/x-bc93bacc9cfcb307) 22.28.23 Nick drf|away is now known as drfsupercenter (i=your_mom@d14-69-192-60.try.wideopenwest.com) 22.32.38 Join goffa [0] (n=goffa@216.220.23.105) 22.37.53 Join Mathiasdm [0] (n=Mathias@78-22-5-158.access.telenet.be) 22.42.08 Quit mf0102 ("Ex-Chat") 22.43.07 Quit mcuelenaere (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 22.44.35 Quit goffa_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 22.46.28 Join guru [0] (n=gurudude@66.226.208.211) 22.46.34 # wats up newbie 22.46.48 # im looking to upgrade my video ipod 30 gig 22.46.50 # help please 22.47.55 # hello 22.48.23 Join mcuelenaere [0] (n=mcuelena@rockbox/developer/mcuelenaere) 22.48.37 # if you have a (rockbox related) question just ask. 22.48.42 Join Horscht [0] (n=Horscht@xbmc/user/horscht) 22.48.53 # well im trying to find out more about rockbox and how it works 22.49.10 # "help please" but haven't asked a question yet? Interesting. 22.49.28 # * bluebrother points to http://www.rockbox.org :) 22.50.02 # so lets sit here all day and look at a blank screen ok thats fun NOT@ 22.51.14 # guru: Do you actually have a question, or are you trolling? 22.51.29 # BigBambi: don't feed the trolls! ;-) 22.51.33 # d'oh 22.52.28 # i just wanted to know how good is rockbox 22.52.33 # er, very 22.52.49 # you are in the Rockbox irc channel, what do you expect? 22.52.53 # well, this is a channel about Rockbox. What exactly do you expect? People telling you it's crap? 22.52.54 # right 22.52.56 Nick drfsupercenter is now known as drf|away (i=your_mom@d14-69-192-60.try.wideopenwest.com) 22.53.42 # guru, i think rockbox is great if that is what you want to know 22.53.57 # if i lost rockbox will it clear any of my stuff of my ipod? 22.54.03 # eh? 22.54.11 # load 22.54.16 # No 22.54.27 # You should check out the manual... 22.54.32 # does it come with some themes and stuff 22.54.36 # yes 22.54.40 # im looking for that now on the site 22.54.57 # i need the loader and the progarm for my 30 gig right? 22.55.10 # The manual has install instructions... 22.55.17 # * bluebrother wonders what "loader" and "program" exactly means ... 22.55.27 # do you have the link? 22.55.37 # website -> manual? 22.55.42 # The link "manual" on the left of every page? 22.55.48 # nice 22.55.49 # thanx 22.55.49 Quit Mathiasdm ("Yuuw!") 22.55.59 # seems websites are _really_ hard to read. *sic* 22.56.58 # yep real hard to read blue ball 22.57.25 # guru: behave please 22.57.59 # I said when i came in here im a newbie cut me some slack i didn't know about the site 22.58.09 # thanks for your help bigbambi 22.58.13 # guru: We just ask that you read a little :) 22.58.18 # guru: no problem 22.58.29 Quit nedd1 ("Leaving.") 22.58.33 # i understand just didn't know about the site 22.58.40 # hehe, ok 22.59.06 # how often do they do updates? 22.59.18 Quit miepchen^schlaf () 22.59.32 # guru: have you read the channel topic? 22.59.42 # guru: There are many per day 23.00.35 Quit ompaul (Client Quit) 23.02.54 Join Guest27359 [0] (n=gurudude@66.226.208.211) 23.03.59 Quit Guest27359 (Client Quit) 23.10.06 Join midgey_ [0] (n=tjross@c-71-205-31-207.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) 23.10.06 Quit midgey (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 23.11.25 Join midgey [0] (n=tjross@c-71-205-31-207.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) 23.11.25 Quit midgey_ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 23.13.06 Join DarrenCT [0] (n=darren@adsl-69-230-189-72.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) 23.17.20 Part DarrenCT 23.21.28 Join przemhb [0] (n=przemhb@chello089076178118.chello.pl) 23.22.54 Quit guru (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 23.24.35 Quit mcuelenaere (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 23.24.47 Quit lolmaus () 23.25.32 Quit Horscht ("I am root. If you see me laughing, you better have a backup") 23.26.23 # hi 23.26.57 # hello preglow 23.27.07 # oops przemhb 23.30.06 # jhMikeS: we were once (2007.12.11) discussing line-in gain for H10 tuner. I have prepared a patch recently. Could you take a look on it and commit it? FS#9024 23.30.25 # hi advcomp2019 23.31.07 Join mcuelenaere [0] (n=mcuelena@rockbox/developer/mcuelenaere) 23.32.14 Quit Schmogel ("Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org") 23.33.51 Nick drf|away is now known as drfsupercenter (i=your_mom@d14-69-192-60.try.wideopenwest.com) 23.38.05 Join fdinel [0] (n=Miranda@modemcable097.232-203-24.mc.videotron.ca) 23.43.30 # Hey, anyone here know how to update the firmware on a Sansa c200? 23.43.39 # The sansa patcher only installs the Rockbox bootloader... 23.44.52 # drfsupercenter: just unzip the new build to the root of the c200, overwriting the existing install 23.45.04 # Or better still, use rbutil 23.45.14 # Even better, read the manual - it tells you this 23.45.42 # hm 23.45.53 # I'm talking Sandisk firmware, not Rockbox firmware 23.45.59 # then that is off topic 23.46.07 # This is #rockbox 23.46.23 # I know 23.46.30 # Then why did you ask? 23.46.34 # but I figured that updating the firmware to allow Rockbox and updating the firmware are the same process 23.46.42 # no... 23.47.03 # can rbutil do anything with Sansa firmware? 23.47.09 # You don't update the firmware to install rockbox, you patch the existing firmware with the Rockbox bootloader 23.47.11 # What do you mean by "updating the firmware to allow Rockbox" ? 23.47.12 Quit desowin ("KVIrc 4.0.0 Insomnia http://www.kvirc.net/") 23.47.21 # drfsupercenter: no, it is for *rockbox* 23.47.44 # Uh, never mind 23.47.54 # Let's just say that my Sansa has old firmware that won't let me select between MTP and MSC 23.48.01 # Someone told me yesterday to get this firmware upgrade 23.48.05 # I have the file, but don't know what to do with it 23.48.27 # I ran sansapatcher with that .mi4 file in the folder, but it didn't upgrade anything 23.48.36 # The SansaFAQ wiki page might tll you, if not ask Sandisk - I'm sure they give instructions on how to update their own firmware 23.49.00 # http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/SansaC200Port#No_MSC_Mode 23.49.25 # there you go :) 23.50.05 # "Try rolling back the Sansa firmware to an older version. Download version 1.01.00 from here (choose the letter version that matches your existing firmware). The files are compressed in .7z format; you can download 7-Zip to open them. Now enter Recovery Mode and upgrade the firmware. (Info gathered from here)" 23.50.06 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 23.50.09 # I have that firmware, but hm 23.50.10 # wtf is recovery mode 23.50.18 # I'm not asking, I'm thinking out loud 23.50.18 # LOL 23.50.19 Join desowin [0] (n=desowin@atheme/member/desowin) 23.50.19 # drfsupercenter: why not read the link 23.50.48 # drfsupercenter: then please don't - this channel is logged and people don't want to have to trawl through pointless waffle to get to the useful bits 23.50.55 Quit desowin (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 23.50.57 # OK 23.51.14 # OK, well on topic with Rockbox - Do any of the betas let you change what keys do what? 23.51.23 # As some of the default key allocations suck IMO 23.51.26 # what betas? 23.51.34 Join miepchen^schlaf [0] (n=miepchen@dslb-088-072-193-077.pools.arcor-ip.net) 23.51.38 # If you mean in Rockbox, no, you need to edit the code 23.51.38 # Build 23.51.38 # w/e 23.51.49 # technical terms are importasnt to get right 23.52.13 # LOL 23.52.16 # drfsupercenter: just be careful with recovery mode. Only copy files that the instructions tell you to copy, don't get creative if something is not clear 23.52.21 # OK 23.52.28 # well, how easy is it to modify rockbox code? 23.52.34 # You have to edit the code then compile to change keys - I agree that some of the current c200 keymap is rubbish, and pixelma has written a patch that vastly improves it, that I can't remember the number of 23.52.59 Part przemhb 23.53.06 # drfsupercenter: Incidently, what is funny? If we don't use the correct terms, we get confused, and that way badness lies 23.53.07 # Well the e200's is worse 23.53.17 # the e200 is much better IMO 23.53.22 # I just bought a e280 and the whole scroll wheel vs. buttons are weird 23.53.29 # But there's no way to adjust the volume when in the menu... 23.53.35 # drfsupercenter: but feel free to change it for your own personal build 23.53.44 # I also don't like how pressing Power shuts the song off, why can't it do what the c200? 23.53.51 # How easy is it to do that without breaking something? 23.53.56 # drfsupercenter: very 23.54.00 # drfsupercenter: Incidently, what is funny? If we don't use the correct terms, we get confused, and that way badness lies <-- I just LOL at everything, bad habit 23.54.07 # Hm, is it in binary, or like written out somewhere 23.54.13 # no, it is source 23.54.18 # what OS are you using? 23.54.28 # XP 23.54.41 # http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/SimpleGuideToCompiling 23.54.43 # That link redirects me to Sansa Store... not what I need 23.54.49 # no, it doesn't 23.54.52 # it can be tricky to get everything working as intended when editing the keymap files 23.55.11 # drfsupercenter: http://forums.sandisk.com/sansa/board/message?board.id=c200&thread.id=372&view=by_date_ascending&page=3 23.55.31 # pixelma: can be, but you can't ever really break anything 23.55.43 # i think the old e200 keymap was ok but the new e200 keymap is lots better 23.55.47 # that's true, 23.55.54 Join einhirn_ [0] (n=Miranda@p5B032356.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 23.57.01 # and hmm 23.57.14 # pixelma: I still think you ought to go ahead with the c200 as is :) 23.57.29 # One suggestion I have, is to have it so when you press enter to go to the song list, it highlites the song you're listening to so you don't have to start at the top of the list every time 23.57.41 # given nobody else seems to have taken an interest, and in my mind whatever the shortcomings, it is much better than the existing one 23.57.53 # drfsupercenter: turn follow playlist on 23.58.11 # Where is that at in Rockbox? 23.58.22 # the manual tells you 23.58.27 # *please* read it 23.58.46 # OK