--- Log for 31.05.108 Server: leguin.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: @logbot_ Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 28 days and 10 hours ago 00.00.11 # pixelma, Yeah, but what about the volume? 00.00.19 # Being able to control volume in the menus would be nice... 00.00.28 # drfsupercenter: there aren't any free keys for that 00.00.35 # on the c200 you are (still) 00.00.37 # and hmm, Every time I run FreeDoom, it freezes. 00.00.41 # And I have to resort to yanking the battery out 00.00.45 # not with my changes though 00.00.46 # no you don't 00.00.47 # Is there some bug that makes Doom freeze? 00.00.56 # hold power for up to 30 seconds 00.01.02 # it is a hardware power off 00.01.04 # Hm 00.01.11 # I held it for a really long time, it didn't seem to work 00.01.17 # But that's not the point... why's it always crash? 00.01.20 # Is that a bug in the code/ 00.01.22 # *? 00.01.22 # did you time up to 30 seconds 00.01.27 # I've heard a few reports of doom freeze when run in rotated mode 00.01.28 # No. But it was more tha 10 00.01.33 # Yeah, and I run it in rotated mode 00.01.42 # drfsupercenter: I don't know - no devs really care about doom 00.01.43 # why would you not run it in rotated mode, LOL, you get so frickin stretched out that way 00.01.53 # (and I'm a Zune user so I'm used to rotating screens)_ 00.01.56 # Most devs consider audio functionality more important 00.02.23 # OK, I'm in Recovery Mode 00.02.26 # do I just copy firmware.mi4? 00.02.44 Join herrwaldo [0] (n=waldo@ip-81-11-202-130.dsl.scarlet.be) 00.02.45 Join SUSaiyan [0] (n=SUSaiyan@cc1335945-a.zwoll1.ov.home.nl) 00.02.56 # Also pribootLoader.rom 00.03.02 # OK 00.03.09 # do I need the font one? 00.03.45 # You can copy it, but I don't think it's really needed. 00.04.09 # OK 00.04.11 # I won't bother then 00.04.28 # Bagder: did you see my latest patch? 00.04.31 # (Ultimately, I only use rockbox so I don't care... I just can't stand it being in MTP mode and having to use a friend's computer to transfer music) 00.05.36 Quit n1s () 00.05.53 # yay, it works 00.06.10 # Now I have to reinstall Rockbox? 00.06.24 # Just the bootloader 00.06.30 # OK 00.06.36 # Good, I spent 15 minutes setting the settings LOL 00.07.29 Quit mcuelenaere (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 00.08.17 Quit bluebrother ("leaving") 00.08.25 # Oh, another question 00.08.38 # * BigBambi hopes it isn't in the manual 00.08.41 # on my e200, I tried to play some midis but it says I need to install the instruments... where do I get those from? 00.08.47 # .... 00.09.51 # What, is that in the manual? 00.10.00 # * gevaerts checks 00.10.03 # er, I thought so, but I'm just checking :) 00.10.33 Quit gromit`` (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00.10.48 Quit inversions (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00.11.03 # * BigBambi apologises 00.11.42 # drfsupercenter: my apologies, check out http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/PluginMidiPlay 00.11.44 Join mcuelenaere [0] (n=mcuelena@rockbox/developer/mcuelenaere) 00.12.43 # .tbz2? Is that some compressed format? 00.12.44 Quit mcuelenaere (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 00.12.52 # yes 00.13.10 # OK 00.13.15 # woah 21MB, that's huge... 00.16.12 # midis don't play too well on the targets with portalplayer CPU (like the v1 Sansas). Only simple ones, not too complex and only a few instruments are ok 00.17.36 # testing with the Sansa, heh 00.17.42 # and I gotta go, thanks for the help guys 00.17.50 # I'll probably have more questions later :) 00.18.18 # But I gotta say, I'm really impressed with Rockbox, it's at least 10x better than the original firmware (and the fact that it lets you access the filesystem and change stuff like the button light make it even better) 00.18.33 Nick drfsupercenter is now known as drf|away (i=your_mom@d14-69-192-60.try.wideopenwest.com) 00.19.58 Join mcuelenaere [0] (n=mcuelena@rockbox/developer/mcuelenaere) 00.20.36 Quit ender` (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00.23.10 # anyone against comitting this (touchscreen improvement) ? http://pastebin.com/d51ce33ab 00.25.45 Quit stoffel ("leaving") 00.32.11 Quit davina ("GNU/Linux the free alternative to Windows") 00.38.27 Quit miepchen^schlaf () 00.45.53 Join Horscht [0] (n=Horscht@xbmc/user/horscht) 00.46.30 Nick fxb__ is now known as fxb (n=felixbru@h1252615.stratoserver.net) 00.48.45 Quit dabujo ("( www.nnscript.com :: NoNameScript 4.2 :: www.regroup-esports.com )") 00.54.36 Join linuxstb_ [0] (n=linuxstb@rockbox/developer/linuxstb) 00.55.38 Quit linuxstb (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00.59.34 Quit jhMikeS (Nick collision from services.) 00.59.40 Join jhMikeS [50] (n=jethead7@rockbox/developer/jhMikeS) 01.01.00 Nick borges|afk is now known as borges (n=bruges@brln-4d0c3fcf.pool.mediaWays.net) 01.01.00 Quit mcuelenaere (Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer)) 01.06.09 Quit gregzx ("ChatZilla 0.9.82.1 [Firefox 2.0.0.14/2008040413]") 01.08.05 Quit faemir (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 01.09.19 Join miepchen^schlaf [0] (n=miepchen@p54BF72B2.dip.t-dialin.net) 01.16.49 Quit leox (Remote closed the connection) 01.19.34 Nick fxb is now known as fxb__ (n=felixbru@h1252615.stratoserver.net) 01.20.59 Quit obo ("bye") 01.23.57 Join Zarggg [0] (n=z@216-15-73-111.c3-0.eas-ubr6.atw-eas.pa.cable.rcn.com) 01.25.41 Join leox [0] (n=leox@165-162-114-200.fibertel.com.ar) 01.28.35 Quit einhirn_ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 01.29.27 Join stripwax [0] (n=Miranda@87-194-34-169.bethere.co.uk) 01.38.23 Quit linuxstb_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 01.38.27 Join linuxstb__ [0] (n=linuxstb@rockbox/developer/linuxstb) 01.41.26 Quit borges (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 01.42.33 Nick drf|away is now known as drfsupercenter (i=your_mom@d14-69-192-60.try.wideopenwest.com) 01.42.34 Part kkurbjun 01.45.14 Join borges [0] (n=bruges@brln-4d0c3fcf.pool.mediaWays.net) 01.45.49 Join ctaylorr [0] (n=ctaylorr@bas1-toronto43-1279396603.dsl.bell.ca) 01.50.09 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 01.55.26 Nick drfsupercenter is now known as drf|away (i=your_mom@d14-69-192-60.try.wideopenwest.com) 01.55.47 Join TaylorKillian [0] (n=tkillian@wl198075.wright.edu) 01.56.23 Quit PaulJam (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 01.56.42 Quit borges ("ChatZilla 0.9.82.1 [Firefox 2.0.0.14/2008040413]") 01.56.54 Join nuonguy [0] (n=john@c-24-6-175-26.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) 01.59.34 Quit DerDome ("Leaving.") 02.05.26 Part pixelma 02.19.57 Quit ctaylorr (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 02.30.49 Quit DerPapst_ (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 02.36.40 Join linuxstb_ [0] (n=linuxstb@rockbox/developer/linuxstb) 02.36.43 Quit linuxstb__ (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 02.40.37 Quit stripwax (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 02.42.29 Join kugel [0] (n=chatzill@unaffiliated/kugel) 02.42.53 # Slasheri: Ping. It would be nice if you can take a look at FS#7287 02.45.13 Quit kugel (Client Quit) 02.57.03 Quit herrwaldo ("Konversation terminated!") 03.08.44 Join ctaf [0] (n=ctaf@APoitiers-153-1-31-27.w83-200.abo.wanadoo.fr) 03.08.53 # hello 03.13.35 Quit TaylorKillian ("using sirc version 2.211+KSIRC/1.3.12") 03.19.02 # I want to port rockbox on a creative zen 03.19.15 # smbdy has information or work on it already? 03.28.19 Quit ch4os (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 03.31.58 Join secleinteer [0] (n=secl@adsl-70-237-226-48.dsl.stlsmo.sbcglobal.net) 03.32.41 # hi, does anyone know if a rockbox port for the creative zen is being worked on? 03.32.59 # i saw some stuff about a port for the zen vision m being worked on, but nothing about the creative zen 03.41.07 # hello 03.41.15 # i asked the same question 2 line above 03.41.33 # i'am interested in porting rockbox on it 03.42.10 # somebody successfully uploaded a slightly modified firmware on it 03.42.24 # it's a good thing to start hacking on it 03.44.11 Quit midgey () 03.45.43 Join midgey [0] (n=tjross@c-71-205-31-207.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) 03.50.10 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 03.57.29 Quit Thundercloud (Remote closed the connection) 03.58.01 Quit nuonguy ("This computer has gone to sleep") 04.03.07 # ctaf and secleinteer, the best bet is to go on the forums and look there 04.03.25 # there is a thread on the forum 04.03.27 # about that 04.03.56 # yea there is 04.04.46 # ctaf: can you give me a link? 04.05.04 # i'd like to help out in porting it as well 04.05.18 # http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=13462.15 04.05.29 # thx 04.05.31 # i'am creating a target in rockbox currently 04.06.06 # it seems the cpu is not supported by rockbox it's a stmp3760 04.06.15 # but there are stmp35xx that are supported 04.06.25 # there is a page on the wiki too 04.06.42 # http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/CreativeZEN 04.07.14 # ctaf: I thought the STMP35xx are not supported 04.07.29 # ctaf: because there's no recent enough compiler for it 04.08.21 # ouch 04.08.26 # and for the stmp3700? 04.09.23 # http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/SigmaTelSTMP3xxx 04.17.46 Quit AndyI () 04.19.41 # I don't know but there's a compiler for the STMP36xx: http://linux.sigmatel.com/ 04.30.31 # yep 04.30.37 # I found the LCD hourra 04.30.41 # \o/ 04.30.43 # it's a sansung 04.31.26 Join linuxstb__ [0] (n=linuxstb@rockbox/developer/linuxstb) 04.33.40 # ouch I forget to verify 04.33.57 # but maybe the 3700 series is not supported by arm-elf-gcc 04.41.37 Quit linuxstb_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 04.45.46 # I don't know, but maybe you can check :) 04.46.05 # ctaf: so the compiler's only made by sigmatel? 04.46.16 # no chance of a 3rd party writing one? 04.46.22 # i dont know enough 04.46.27 # hmm 04.46.36 # gcc may support it, but the cpu is really recent 04.46.47 # damn 04.47.05 Quit _vertic23 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 04.47.08 # so the 3600 and 3500 series's support is from sigmatel, righT? 04.47.29 # then maybe they will release the 3700 some time soon 04.48.07 # they sell a sdk to make mp3 player for 12000$ 04.48.10 Join vertic23 [0] (i=bla@d114236.adsl.hansenet.de) 04.48.13 # this one was released last september, so they may make it yet 04.48.13 # for the 3700 04.48.17 # yes I hope 04.48.23 # that's some bull 04.48.24 Quit miepchen^schlaf (Connection timed out) 04.48.28 # what's it called? 04.48.37 # the sdk 04.49.02 # a compiler and sample of a mp3 player including mp3 codec and GUI 04.49.15 # we need spec for each component too 04.49.18 # no, no, is there a commercial name for it? 04.49.20 # they seem hard to find 04.49.30 # i dont know 04.49.33 # damn 04.49.43 # but i want it if you find it :-) 04.49.43 # i could acquire it if i knew the name 04.49.51 # lol 04.49.57 # just need that name, and i will tell you whether it's available 04.50.11 # google it 04.50.13 # anywho, can't you just pull the player apart to check out the specs? 04.50.15 # ya i'm going o 04.50.16 # to* 04.50.20 # it dont remember where i saw it 04.50.32 # the pdf spec 04.50.49 # k 04.51.04 # i have the lcd and cpu sn 04.51.21 # but i need the spec to do a sample test program 04.51.30 Quit vertic23 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 04.51.50 # and a fucking compiler 04.51.53 # doesn't look like there's anything on first glance 04.51.58 # if it's called stmp3700 04.52.09 # but maybe gcc will to the work 04.52.16 # you said no support? 04.52.22 # I dont think it's called like that 04.52.26 # I dont say so 04.52.30 Join vertic23 [0] (i=bla@d187246.adsl.hansenet.de) 04.52.34 # k i'm sitll looking 04.52.47 # nothing with 'sigmatel' in the name 04.53.07 # but maybe there is no optimisation for that proc but the generated binary will work though 04.53.18 # hmm 04.53.21 # LMS250GF03 ? 04.53.24 # how much of a performance loss? 04.53.29 # what's that? 04.53.33 # we dont care at first 04.53.35 # the lcd 04.53.39 # I really need the spec 04.53.40 # kk 04.53.44 # for the whole thing? 04.53.49 # yep 04.54.04 # to know how it work 04.54.07 # check newegg? ;p 04.54.20 # damn, they don't have shit on this 04.54.35 # (i'am not a native english spoker, i dont understood the joke, too bad) 04.55.02 # lol kk 04.55.27 # newegg's a US site for buying tech stuff, they have 'specs' on each item they sell 04.55.36 # it'd be the first place i'd check 04.56.00 # oki 04.56.02 # checking 04.56.16 # i already looked lol 04.56.22 # ^^ " damn, they don't have shit on this" 04.56.52 Join _vertic23 [0] (i=bla@d054172.adsl.hansenet.de) 04.56.58 # do you have one of these already? 04.57.13 # by spec I mean something like that: http://www.neodns.co.kr/specpdf/tft/(SEC)LTV250QV-F0B.pdf 04.57.54 # yeah, i know, that's what the ";p" was for 04.58.10 # ok 04.58.11 # lool 04.58.15 # now I understand 04.59.51 # fuck it doesnt sound like a simple task 05.01.02 # hehe 05.01.04 # ofc it isn't 05.01.13 Join nuonguy [0] (n=john@c-24-6-175-26.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) 05.01.25 # making an OS for a hardware spec that's too new to have much support 05.01.34 # look at the ipod's 05.01.37 # and their rockbox support 05.01.46 # despite all the people interested 05.01.53 # it's still buggy 05.03.47 # lol 05.03.56 # i dont really know the state on the ipod 05.04.05 # it's ok, but there are problems 05.04.11 # least when i tried it out a while back 05.04.18 # but porting to new hardware is always hard 05.04.36 # now that my ipod's backlight is dead and i'm never going to touch another apple product, this creative looks real nice 05.06.04 Join ctaf_ [0] (n=ctaf@APoitiers-153-1-50-7.w83-203.abo.wanadoo.fr) 05.08.12 # i 'am tired 05.08.18 # i am going sleeping 05.08.20 # good night 05.09.58 # oups was here at first to have write access on the wiki, to add some information on the creative zen 05.10.06 Quit XavierGr () 05.10.10 # alright, cya 05.10.13 # somebody could set them form me? 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I turned my cousin on to Rockbox and recommended that he consider the iPod 5G since it can be Rockboxed. However, of all the targets I own, I use my iPod 5G the least because the builds have been very unstable for a long time. I'd like to get a stable build for him since he's not very technically inclined. Basically I just want no lockups and stable playback. 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But I had a play with the patch and it has redraw problems - when one of the viewports changes, sometimes neighbouring vanish too (or content in it). If fixes itself, when a complete screen redraw is needed (e.g. on track change) - I also saw this effect when only the condition is checked (without actually using a different viewport then) 10.21.12 # can you reply to the task wit ht e naughty wps? 10.21.14 # wanted to prepare a comment with screenshots for the tracker anyway, but that'll take a bit of time 10.21.30 # cabbiev2 is the only one using the %m tag which I want to remove 10.21.59 # although, maybe i can just fiddle with the viewport instead of removeing the tag complaetly 10.22.21 Quit midgey () 10.22.25 # I also thought about that - but the withdraw of it is that the number of viewports is limited 10.22.58 # JdGordon: When do you want to commit that patch to remove the margins? 10.23.00 Nick linuxstb__ is now known as linuxstb (n=linuxstb@rockbox/developer/linuxstb) 10.23.12 # viewports arnt all that expensvie.. doubling isnt a big deal 10.23.17 # linuxstb: when its finished :p 10.23.39 # the rec screen has issues whihc need to be addressed first 10.23.47 # JdGordon: IMO we should wait - to give people a chance to change all the WPSs that use %m. 10.24.02 # It would be a bad thing to suddenly break most WPSs... 10.24.47 # yes, but the %m was really put in as more of a hack to make people less reliant on patches... 10.25.20 # So? 10.25.40 # so its not a big deal pulling it out because is wasnt meant as a permanent solution 10.26.07 # regardless.. that patch cant be commited yet anyway 10.26.09 # I disagree. 10.26.36 # you'd be upset if the tag disappeared? 10.26.53 # No, but 99% of users will be complaining their WPSes no longer work.. 10.28.25 # ok, so ill put a curtosy email on the mailing lists 10.28.35 # IMO, the firstly there needs to be a usable replacement (such as your conditional viewports patch), then we advertise %m as deprecated and give people time to migrate WPSs, then we remove it. 10.28.45 # of course... 10.28.57 # 9027 depends on cond vp's which isnt ready yet also 10.29.40 # JdGordon: another problem I had: I wanted to have a shorter progressbar when album art is displayed and prepared 2 viewports and only used the progressbar tag in it. Thought when it uses one or the other viewport the progressbar (length) would change accordingly but this doesn't seem to work. Mostly it uses the longer one, I saw the shorter one once when the condition wasn't even true. I checked that the %pb tag uses the viewport width when not sp 10.29.53 # I'd like to get it all done in the next week though, week after that I have exams, then holiday, i dont have anything on this week 10.31.10 # pixelma: that might be a problem with the longer viewpoert isnt cleared so you need to put another vp there showing blank (of have the shorter one the whole width, but set the pb shorter 10.32.11 # there is a shorter one above it, I made sure that the whole screen is always covered without overlaps 10.33.05 # I can't make the progressbar shorter because you can't use it conditionally 10.33.34 # * JdGordon needs screenshots and/or the .wps 10.34.25 Join miepchen^schlaf [0] (n=miepchen@p54BF580C.dip.t-dialin.net) 10.37.46 # changing topics.. what does everyone think about 9053? mouting the sd cards using their volume name instead of 10.37.47 # ? 10.39.25 # the .wps is quite complicated because I wanted to test whether my idea worked. I started with only setting up the viewports using different background colours and without content and still have that file (already shows the vanishing neighbour vps though with content the problem changes a little depending on whether the content needs a redraw anyway, like scrolling lines). I think I'm going to attach all I got... I'd like to test the progressbar th 10.40.06 # you got cut off... "the progresbar th" 10.40.21 # progressbar thing in a simpler setup but that'll need some more time... 10.43.09 Quit Horscht ("I am root. If you see me laughing, you better have a backup") 10.45.23 Quit JdGordon ("Konversation terminated!") 10.47.26 # pixelma: Ignoring conditional viewports, can you have two progress bars, in different viewports? 10.47.36 Join JdGordon [0] (n=Miranda@c210-49-157-20.smelb1.vic.optusnet.com.au) 10.47.57 # hmm... haven't checked. I probably should try that first 10.49.25 # I guess that could be the problem 10.52.59 Quit lolmaus () 10.57.19 Join nplus [0] (n=nplus@141.25.globcom.net) 10.58.47 Join gregzx [0] (n=chatzill@dta85.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) 11.07.32 Quit gregzx ("ChatZilla 0.9.82.1 [Firefox 2.0.0.14/2008040413]") 11.07.59 Join gregzx [0] (n=chatzill@dta85.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) 11.09.09 Join DerPapst_ [0] (n=Der_Paps@p5B23DE21.dip.t-dialin.net) 11.10.13 Join webguest83 [0] (n=d9eb193f@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-a01f15af2488c354) 11.10.20 Nick axionix is now known as axi (n=axion@cpe-74-70-239-117.nycap.res.rr.com) 11.10.30 Nick axi is now known as axionix (n=axion@cpe-74-70-239-117.nycap.res.rr.com) 11.11.34 # pixelma: a problem how 11.11.34 # ? 11.13.23 # aren't the viewports all existent at any time, just some hidden and some visible? 11.15.04 Join bertrik [0] (n=bertrik@055-023-045-062.dynamic.caiway.nl) 11.15.13 Quit webguest83 ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)") 11.17.55 # seems you can have 2 progressbars at the same time but only at the dimensions of the first one, in different viewports you'll get the same progressbars at 2 different spots 11.18.38 # that's tested with an SVN sim 11.19.31 # ah, that sounds like a fairly likyl issue 11.19.48 # might have to move the progress bar info into the viewport struct 11.20.34 # I guess the code is probably not prepared to draw differently (advancing differently etc.)? 11.20.40 # * JdGordon thought you were answering my q on that volume mounting patch :p 11.21.18 # Putting the progress bar struct into the viewport would be bad imo 11.21.24 # why? 11.22.09 # (1) You would be reserving memory for something that's only needed in the wps. (2) It's inflexible. Who says you cannot have more than 1 progress bar per viewport? 11.22.10 # about the volume mounting patch... the idea is fairly old and I remember some discussions about it (maybe not here) but don't remember the outcome... 11.22.45 # amiconn: no... the wps viewport struict isnt the same as a regular vp struct 11.23.04 # wps { viewport { strct viewport, other stuff.... } } 11.23.07 # The viewport drawing code should be pretty much stateless, so I'd expect this problem to be repairable there 11.23.29 # * JdGordon rebooting 11.23.40 Quit JdGordon (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 11.24.00 # amiconn: I believe you were restricted to one progressbar in the screen before viewports 11.25.42 Join JdGordon [0] (i=jonno@c210-49-157-20.smelb1.vic.optusnet.com.au) 11.28.29 # yep, wps only lets you have 1 progress bar atm 11.28.40 # each %pb tag overwrites the previous 11.28.46 # JdGordon: IMO it would be wasteful to store the progressbar parameters in the viewport struct. Maybe they could just be stored in the token array. 11.29.58 # yeah, how many would we ever want? 2? 3? we could store them seperalty and store an index into an array of them in the token value... 11.29.59 # Although I'm not sure.... 11.31.11 Join inversions [0] (n=sam@cpc1-bele3-0-0-cust658.belf.cable.ntl.com) 11.31.40 # ill put a patch together quickly... shouldnt be difficult 11.32.15 # * pixelma wondered about viewports helping the progressbar handling (x-, y-position, length) in general but in the end thought it could be problematic in case the rest of the WPS only uses the "default viewport" 11.32.43 Join einhirn_ [0] (n=Miranda@p5B033603.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 11.32.47 # though that's only my current understanding of it... 11.35.29 # pixelma: quick manual opinion: what do you think of putting "Hold switch" "do something" in a button table? 11.36.49 Join FOAD_ [0] (n=dok@dinah.blub.net) 11.36.55 Join Arathis [0] (n=doerk@p508A394F.dip.t-dialin.net) 11.37.10 Join PaulJam [0] (i=PaulJam_@vpn-3040.gwdg.de) 11.42.52 Join faemir [0] (n=faemir@88-106-142-213.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) 11.43.17 # n1s: not sure what you mean... btw. just wanted to tell you about your commit that I didn't manage to use that button combo but reading the task, it seems possible with lots of practise.... 11.43.51 # pixelma: that button combo is the one in the keymap in the code at least 11.44.00 # I know 11.44.15 # I changed that in my keymap patch ;) 11.44.47 # about the hold thing I meant putting "Hold switch" in a key table (for rockblox where it is used to pause/unpause) 11.46.21 Quit SUSaiyan (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 11.46.30 Join SUSaiyan [0] (n=SUSaiyan@cc84863-b.zwoll1.ov.home.nl) 11.47.50 # hmm /me gets more and more annoyed with the wps code every time I look at it :p 11.49.19 Quit FOAD (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 11.49.19 Nick FOAD_ is now known as FOAD (n=dok@dinah.blub.net) 11.49.49 # n1s: hmm... thought about that this week too, when starting a zxbox.tex (e.g. the hold switch gives you the menu on Ipods there). I think "hold switch" is more accurate 11.50.22 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 11.50.27 # than "hold" what there is now (I think, haven't checked :D ) 11.50.44 # I'll go ahead then :) 11.52.07 Join stoffel [0] (n=sfr@p57B4CFDF.dip.t-dialin.net) 11.52.15 Join herrwaldo [0] (n=waldo@ip-81-11-194-110.dsl.scarlet.be) 11.53.52 Quit J-23 (Nick collision from services.) 11.56.07 # any x5 owners have opinions about FS#8654 ? is it a useful addition? 11.58.47 # where can i read about FS#8654? 11.59.14 # http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/8654 11.59.19 # thanks 11.59.33 # (FS# numbers refer to our tracker) 12.00.55 Quit nuonguy ("This computer has gone to sleep") 12.01.48 # i suppose that information could be useful if you're not too familiar with the device 12.02.33 # but it would be obvious to anyone who has used the player with the original firmware, no? 12.02.33 # Isn't that information really basic knowledge that you need to operate your x5? I really doubt that any x5 orwner doesn't know how to connect it to a PC. 12.03.48 # the h300 has 2 usb ports too and i don't remember anyone being confused by that 12.05.24 # there were some, but that had other reasons, because on the US models with us firmware this port was used for MTP, so some users switching to int firmware were confused. 12.06.03 Quit csc` (Remote closed the connection) 12.07.28 # pixelma: is it a valid assumption that youd use the same progressbar image allways, just display it differently? 12.09.06 # n1s: i guess it would be 12.09.15 # n1s: i read the original manual though :P 12.09.51 # I think we should reject it then as this has nothing to do with rockbox but is a hardware thing and we don't document that stuff 12.10.00 # I think I read some reports in the forums of people who used the wrong one... *shrug* (the M5 doesn't have a OTG port and you can use the side port normally, without subpack. The Cowon M5 manual states that you shouldn't connect through both ports at the same time... that's basic knowledge too) 12.10.24 # JdGordon: don't know 12.11.33 # %pb is the bitmap bar right? which tag is the old style one? 12.11.43 # no 12.13.03 # the %P tag is for loading the bitmap image, %pb shows it and you can define length and position with it and you can use this one without a progressbar bitmap and get a drawn one 12.13.21 # arr... ok 12.15.08 # this didnt turn out as easy as I tohught :p 12.15.16 # which I tried, all parameters of %pb are optional 12.20.19 Join davina [0] (n=davina@cpc1-sout6-0-0-cust616.sotn.cable.ntl.com) 12.21.11 Quit homielowe () 12.23.54 # BUGGER! 12.36.11 Join Horscht [0] (n=Horscht@xbmc/user/horscht) 12.37.58 Quit SUSaiyan (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 12.41.01 # JdGordon: didn' you change something in the radio screen this week? 12.41.09 # *didn't 12.41.55 # yeah, shouldnt have been anything noticable though 12.42.03 # why? 12.42.11 Join hannesd [0] (n=light@p5B161D24.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 12.42.34 # the OndioFM's radio screen doesn't show the prerecording time anymore 12.42.51 # arg 12.43.17 # put it on the tracker... im heading out in a few min 12.43.22 # this line replaced the peakmeters if you had a prerecording time set, now only the peakmeters vanish but you don't get the line 12.43.23 # ok 12.44.22 # my old revision 17631 still has it 12.45.24 # yeah, must have missed it with that textarea->vp patch 12.46.12 # hope I'll find the time for the tracker, have to get ready to leave myself :\ 12.47.39 # unless i come back drunk tonight i should remmeber :p 12.48.12 # hi, anyone using the ipod / nano/ mini / whatever here? 12.48.18 # i've got a nano 1g 12.48.19 # hmm... works now, weird 12.48.33 # and I must say, you devs must have put a lot of thought into that scrollwheel 12.48.50 # thanks :D 12.55.24 Quit nplus (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 12.56.28 Join mf0102 [0] (n=michi@85.127.182.43) 12.56.31 # JdGordon: seems you don't have to remember this, have fun drinking :P 12.56.36 Join nplus [0] (n=npl@141.25.globcom.net) 13.04.16 Quit n17ikh|Lappy (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 13.04.52 Join n17ikh [0] (n=n17ikh@c-76-23-106-132.hsd1.sc.comcast.net) 13.09.08 Quit linuxstb (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 13.14.38 Join linuxstb [0] (n=linuxstb@rockbox/developer/linuxstb) 13.35.36 Nick fxb__ is now known as fxb (n=felixbru@h1252615.stratoserver.net) 13.38.18 Join linuxstb_ [0] (n=linuxstb@rockbox/developer/linuxstb) 13.39.38 Quit stripwax ("Miranda IM! 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First of all: amiconn, thanks for fixing the iRiver LCD remote clock! Now, I still have an issue with it (FS#7278): I cannot use the volume up button on the remote as I *always* skip to the next directory then. 14.25.37 # I noticed that the bug report has been closed as it was associated with ageing remotes, but I don't think it is like this as it works with the original firmware. Is there any chance how I can help bugfixing it? 14.28.54 Join kushal_12_27_200 [0] (n=kushal@c-67-173-249-88.hsd1.co.comcast.net) 14.33.41 Join J-23_ [0] (n=aldwulf@a105.net128.okay.pl) 14.35.47 Join moos [0] (i=moos@m198.net81-66-127.noos.fr) 14.36.10 Quit das-perceptron (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 14.37.43 Part J-23_ 14.42.00 Join ctaylorr [0] (n=ctaylorr@bas1-toronto43-1279396603.dsl.bell.ca) 14.44.37 Quit kushal_12_27_200 ("Leaving") 14.54.15 Join Buschel [0] (n=AndreeBu@p54A3FB95.dip.t-dialin.net) 14.58.18 # bertrik: you havnt replied to the dev-ml thread? 14.58.43 # JdGordon: no not yet 14.58.56 # ok, as long as ou've seen it... 14.59.09 # Removing the panic is a very reasonable fix I think 14.59.19 # I wnder why its so bad if the event is sent if nothing is registered for it yet? 14.59.42 # "in case anything cares... blaa has just happened" 15.00.59 # * Buschel is puzzled by fs#9054... 15.01.01 # JdGordon: sorry, I don't understand what you mean 15.01.52 # the problem is its panicing if an event it triggered but there is no handler for it right? 15.02.14 # Buschel: if it matters, it happens on my h300 too. (also in the uisim) 15.02.32 Join DrMoos [0] (i=moos@m198.net81-66-127.noos.fr) 15.02.58 # hmm, i _really_ thought i had the latest mpc-changes on my ipod during vacation. this bug does not appear with my version. 15.03.10 # * Buschel does a clean build against headrevision now 15.03.29 Quit moos (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 15.04.30 # no, the problem was that the event could only be removed once. It practice it can get doubly removed: 1) automatically when the event is triggered and 2) explicitly with a call to unregister_ata_idle_func 15.04.34 # the bug is pretty sure connected to the seek buffer rework. the files are reported to stop at the end of the buffer size 15.04.39 Nick DrMoos is now known as moos (i=moos@m198.net81-66-127.noos.fr) 15.05.36 # * JdGordon gone again 15.05.55 Quit einhirn_ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 15.08.56 # PaulJam: as my build will take some more time -> is there any "codec failure" visible when the mpc files switches to next track? 15.09.59 # no, i haven't seen anything like that. the uisim doesn't output anything unusual either. 15.11.04 # it just switches to next track? is it dependent on whether seeking to this position (or nearby) or just doing plain playback? 15.11.31 Join kugel [0] (n=chatzill@unaffiliated/kugel) 15.11.38 # hmm, there seems to be a splash at the track transition, but it is way too fast to read it. 15.12.24 # Slasheri: Hi, have you read my message? 15.12.34 Quit ctaylorr (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 15.19.36 # pauljam: hmm, when using a downloaded r17670 it does not skip when first seeking above 3:34, play back some seconds, then seeking back to before 3.34 and let it play. testing plain playback now 15.19.49 # pauljam: on a 5.5G 15.19.56 Quit kugel (Nick collision from services.) 15.19.59 Join kugel_ [0] (n=chatzill@e178097070.adsl.alicedsl.de) 15.20.03 Nick kugel_ is now known as kugel (n=chatzill@e178097070.adsl.alicedsl.de) 15.22.27 # pauljam: still doesn't skip at 3:34 15.23.32 Quit Arathis (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 15.24.12 Quit kugel (Nick collision from services.) 15.24.15 Join kugel_ [0] (n=chatzill@e178112014.adsl.alicedsl.de) 15.24.18 Nick kugel_ is now known as kugel (n=chatzill@e178112014.adsl.alicedsl.de) 15.24.39 Join XavierGr [0] (n=xavier@rockbox/staff/XavierGr) 15.24.58 # Buschel: could it be the file? i only have one album in mpc. 15.25.33 # PaulJam: the bug reports says "all files" and i've heard the same of another rockbox user 15.26.02 # hmm, target dependent? 15.26.18 # have you tried the h300 uisim? 15.26.39 Quit amiconn (" Try HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <-") 15.27.10 # no. gott check the ipod video sim first 15.27.16 # *gotta 15.27.50 Quit moos (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 15.29.14 Join moos [0] (i=moos@m198.net81-66-127.noos.fr) 15.30.22 # pauljam: what duration are your files of? 15.31.34 # Buschel: the two files i tested were 5:43 and 5:05 15.35.22 # * Buschel is bulding the ipod video sim now 15.35.33 # *building 15.41.05 Quit davina (Remote closed the connection) 15.42.24 Join Schmogel [0] (n=Miranda@p508C91EC.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 15.42.55 Join davina [0] (n=davina@cpc1-sout6-0-0-cust616.sotn.cable.ntl.com) 15.47.58 # pauljam: found something while reviewing. can you rebuild and test with a small change? 15.48.09 # sure 15.48.54 # pauljam: ok. go to apps/codecs/libmusepack/mpc_decoder.c, line 1514 and comment it (d->SeekTable_Step = 1;) 15.49.20 Quit nplus ("Leaving") 15.49.32 Join nplus [0] (n=npl@141.25.globcom.net) 15.50.13 # ok, building 15.50.27 # great :o) my sim just finished -- checking 15.50.28 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 15.50.35 Quit miepchen^schlaf () 15.52.23 # pauljam: good news -> sim shows the failure 15.53.00 Quit Horschti ("I got raided by the FBI and all i got is this lousy quit message") 15.53.01 # looks like a out-of-bounds error that is not checked on my target 15.55.53 # Buschel: with the change it doesn't seem to happen anymore. 15.56.46 # :o) testing sim now 15.58.23 # works 15.58.28 # bad bug :/ 15.59.38 # pauljam: thanks for testing! 16.00.19 # you're welcome 16.02.30 Join GodEater [0] (n=ge@rockbox/staff/GodEater) 16.11.30 Join Horscht [0] (n=Horscht@xbmc/user/horscht) 16.20.52 Quit GodEater ("Leaving") 16.22.13 Quit Ragnor (Nick collision from services.) 16.22.24 Join Ragnor [0] (n=Ragnor@dslb-084-062-124-060.pools.arcor-ip.net) 16.22.47 Join roy_ [0] (i=user@dialup-4.155.129.115.Dial1.Baltimore1.Level3.net) 16.23.28 # awake? 16.24.18 # If you have a question, please just ask 16.24.33 # * gevaerts isn't awake yet. It's only 16:23 ! 16.24.55 # Yeah, it may be mid afternoon, but saturday precludes me being fully awake 16.25.19 Quit merbanan ("Leaving") 16.25.49 # i downloaded a simulator for the toshiba gigabeat s and i know that it is unfinished but still installable, wif i install rockbox will it have all functions as the simulator or is the simulator strictly based off what it would be, not what it is now? 16.26.39 # I haven't tried the sim, but on the build, sound works but charging does not, and battery life is not too good at the moment 16.26.49 # most plugins are fine too 16.27.22 # to charge i'd have to flip back to the original firmware? how hard is that? 16.27.33 # you turn hold on when booting 16.27.50 # does it reformat my media? 16.28.12 # the rockbox install? Not if you do the install properly 16.28.38 # But it can't play music put on in the OF anyway (I don't think) 16.28.59 # Still, a backup is a good idea - the port is still young and things can always go wrong 16.29.16 # rockbox can't? 16.29.18 # If the OF decides it needs recovering (unlikely but possible), it will force a format 16.29.26 # roy_: no, as MTP is stupid 16.29.59 # yeah, tell me about it. 16.30.25 # * gevaerts tells roy_ about it 16.30.30 # the install is a massive ball ache from anything but linux though 16.30.42 # from linux it is pretty straightforward :) 16.30.51 # although you will need to do some compiling 16.30.54 # yeah that could be a problem without linux... 16.31.51 # There is an installation page in the wiki, if you want to try - but we don't offer builds yet for a reason - it isn't complete, non-linux install is an arse, etc. 16.32.57 # yeah i know thats why, i just barely use the player anymore and i know i would use it if it didnt run the horrible original 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Why do you ask? 20.52.44 # a plugin I had was working until I reinstalled everything and got a fresh copy of rockbox 20.53.27 # I may have just made a mistake with it though, I changed something for sansa, so right now I'm compiling it for ipod nano to see if any errors turn up 20.54.27 # yeah for both I have conflicting types for 'plugin_start' 20.54.35 Join Arathis [0] (n=doerk@p508A45DD.dip.t-dialin.net) 21.05.35 # allele: yea, the arguments are constant now (i.e. const struct plugin_api* api, const void* parameter) 21.06.01 # kugel: yeah I just caught that, well that seems simple enough 21.06.36 # my other question is are floats useable in rockbox? 21.06.48 Quit Dhraakellian (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 21.06.59 Join saratoga [0] (n=9803c6dd@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-af697d4c030dc983) 21.07.05 Quit saratoga (Client Quit) 21.07.19 Join saratoga2 [0] (n=9803c6dd@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-31aefa1ef7b089df) 21.07.24 Quit XavierGr (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 21.07.55 # current rockbox targets have no floating point units, so using floats is generally discouraged, though in a plugin fp emulation is probably ok if you must use it 21.08.11 Join spiorf [0] (n=spiorf@host235-212-dynamic.20-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) 21.08.27 # usually though people use fixed point since its much faster then fp emulation 21.10.03 Join XavierGr [0] (n=xavier@rockbox/staff/XavierGr) 21.14.41 # so its safe to assume a couple extra multiplications and divisions by 100 are much better than just using a float? 21.15.17 Nick drf|away is now known as drfsupercenter (i=your_mom@d14-69-192-60.try.wideopenwest.com) 21.15.47 Quit fdinel (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 21.18.22 # allele: yes, but don't divide by 100, use shifts to divide by powers of 2 instead 21.19.08 # for instance, instead of x/100 do (x<<7) since theres no integer division hardware on any current rockbox targets either 21.19.45 # err x>>7 I guess 21.20.10 # alright 21.22.30 Join bluebrother [0] (n=dom@rockbox/staff/bluebrother) 21.22.45 Part Jon-Kha ("[IRSSI] not from concentrate") 21.22.58 Join jon-kha [0] (i=jon-kha@xdsl-83-150-91-127.nebulazone.fi) 21.24.04 Quit Schmogel (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 21.25.18 Join toffe82 [0] (n=chatzill@adsl-76-240-238-233.dsl.frs2ca.sbcglobal.net) 21.26.13 # You know, I thought of a feature Rockbox could add 21.26.18 # The ability to change ID3 tags from the player 21.26.25 # I know you can view them, and you can edit text, why not edit ID3s? 21.27.40 Join Schmogel [0] (n=Miranda@p508C91EC.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 21.28.39 Join robin0800 [0] (n=robin080@cpc2-brig8-0-0-cust394.brig.cable.ntl.com) 21.29.50 Quit Mathiasdm ("Yuuw!") 21.33.33 # drfsupercenter: its been requested before, see FS#5749 21.34.56 # what's FS# mean 21.35.20 # FS=FlySpray I think 21.35.54 # and then do we need to edit ogg tags too? 21.36.16 # drfsupercenter: on the left of every page are links for patches, bugs, and feature requests for flyspray, the bug tracker. Stick a FS number on the box underneath for a quick link 21.36.43 # wpyh: If you are going to add a tag editor, it should support all tags Rockbox does IMO 21.37.05 # OK 21.37.17 # And hm 21.37.23 # yup, and I think that's overkill for RB 21.37.27 # I installed that MIDI thing, but it keeps having buffer failures... is that a hardware problem? 21.37.30 # Or too many tracks on the MIDI? 21.37.34 # I mean that feature is not needed... 21.37.37 Quit lolmaus () 21.37.43 # drfsupercenter: pixelma told you last night 21.37.59 # Really? I don't remember 21.38.00 # drfsupercenter: midi playback does not work so well on the Sansa's at the moment 21.38.03 # Oh 21.38.47 # btw since the devs are here, I wanted to know whether new fonts will be accepted 21.39.02 Join tchan [0] (n=tchan@24.12.190.140) 21.39.02 Join MU{lappy} [0] (n=Militant@72.70.183.80) 21.39.03 # drfsupercenter: she also said if you want it to work well, to stick to simple tracks 21.39.10 Quit m0f0x ("test") 21.39.12 # OK, well I don't make MIDIs 21.39.16 # There's a free Chinese font at www.wenq.org 21.39.19 Join m0f0x [0] (n=m0f0x@189-47-30-130.dsl.telesp.net.br) 21.39.20 # wpyh: If they are appropriately licensed, sure 21.39.27 # There were some that worked, but ones with a bunch of tracks were epic failure 21.39.29 # and IMO it looks better than unifont 21.39.36 Quit XavierGr () 21.39.45 # wpyh: you could convert it to the rockbox format and stick it on the tracker, if the licence allows 21.39.56 # well, it's GPL 21.40.04 # that'll do 21.40.06 # I'll check whether it's GPLv2 or GPLv3 21.40.11 # ah yes 21.40.13 # OK :) 21.40.15 # a good point 21.41.08 # wpyh: heh, we'll have to rely on you - I have no hope with that website :) 21.41.31 # BigBambi: no prob :) 21.42.07 # Ah, the license they put on the website is GPLv2 21.42.10 # so it should be good 21.42.21 # here : http://www.wenq.org/index.cgi?GPL 21.42.22 # yes, that is cool 21.42.41 # and here's an english version of the website: http://wqy.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/enindex.cgi 21.43.14 # wpyh:http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/CreateFonts 21.44.30 # BigBambi: ok, thanks 21.45.25 # By the way, why don't we support vector fonts? (the only reason I can think of is the processing overhead) 21.45.40 Join linuxstb_ [0] (n=linuxstb@rockbox/developer/linuxstb) 21.45.51 # there you go :) 21.46.00 # oh :P 21.46.39 # ok, so if we include this Wenq font now, and they release a new version, will it be possible to update? I'm asking because this font seems to be updated quite regularly 21.46.55 # I read on the manual that "fonts rarely change.." so... 21.47.30 # yes, sure. You just need to get the attention of a dev with commit rights to commit it, and with a font it doesn't require a huge amount of review, so shouldn't be too much of a problem 21.47.44 # OK 21.47.45 # wpyh: they rarely change as nobody changes them :) 21.50.32 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 21.53.29 # Hi, I've downloaded the wenquanyi-unibit font (combination of unifont, fixed and wenquanyi-bitmap-song), then ran convbdf on it 21.53.38 # But there's this warning: Warning: DWIDTH spec > max FONTBOUNDINGBOX 21.54.00 # Is this serious? 21.55.33 # something along those lines rings a bell - I think I remember something coming up on the forums 21.57.36 Quit linuxstb (Read error: 101 (Network is unreachable)) 21.57.49 # Weird 21.58.11 # This is the "bounding box": FONTBOUNDINGBOX 16 16 0 -4 21.58.36 # And this are the two DWIDTH's available: 21.58.36 # DWIDTH 16 0 21.58.36 # DWIDTH 8 0 21.58.54 # I'd think they don't exceed the maximum FONTBOUNDINGBOX 21.58.59 # http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=10984.msg83708#msg83708 might help 21.59.06 # but I don't really know 22.02.33 Quit HellDragon (Nick collision from services.) 22.02.56 Join HellDragon [0] (i=jd@unaffiliated/helldragon) 22.03.28 # Thanks, I read the PDF 22.04.31 # But I don't see why convbdf should issue that warning 22.04.58 # I can't help I'm afraid, but hopefully somene who can will see the logs and answer 22.05.10 # ok :) 22.05.57 # maybe I'll just post it together with the warning message 22.06.31 Join midgey [0] (n=tjross@c-71-205-31-207.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) 22.08.51 Quit m0f0x (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 22.15.38 Quit kugel (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 22.16.20 Quit DerPapstr__ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 22.16.43 Join DerPapstr__ [0] (n=Der_Paps@p5B23D43E.dip.t-dialin.net) 22.17.00 Join m0f0x [0] (n=m0f0x@189-47-68-237.dsl.telesp.net.br) 22.18.26 Join kkurbjun [0] (n=kkurbjun@c-67-174-104-139.hsd1.co.comcast.net) 22.21.43 Quit stoffel ("leaving") 22.22.49 Quit midgey () 22.23.26 Join M1DLG_ [0] (n=m1dlg@bb-87-81-252-83.ukonline.co.uk) 22.29.27 Nick drfsupercenter is now known as drf|away (i=your_mom@d14-69-192-60.try.wideopenwest.com) 22.30.04 Join mcuelenaere [0] (n=mcuelena@rockbox/developer/mcuelenaere) 22.30.55 Quit Horscht ("I got raided by the FBI and all i got is this lousy quit message") 22.31.23 # Bagder: around? 22.31.29 # yeps 22.31.53 # you stated on the DevConEuro2008 wiki I should contact you regarding the hotel 22.32.02 # I suppose that's the best solution for staying in Berlin? 22.32.13 Quit moos (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 22.32.44 # well, "best" I don't know, but it's cheap and you'd get to enjoy our lovely company even more! ;-) 22.32.52 # :) 22.32.59 # well then, count me up :) 22.33.13 # ok, will you add yourself there? 22.33.20 # yep, no problem 22.33.27 # (and remove the offer since we're "full" now) 22.33.30 # Bagder: I got a bootloader build to compile for SDL, but I get no binary when its done 22.33.40 # any suggestion what i need to do ? 22.33.53 # i expected to get binary without the apps folder 22.34.12 # which i guess would be fairly useless, but would at least be a start 22.34.17 # saratoga2: and you have bootoutput and boottool specified in the configure? 22.34.27 # let me check 22.37.17 Join bertrik [0] (n=bertrik@055-023-045-062.dynamic.caiway.nl) 22.38.07 # Anyone familiar with fonts here? 22.39.49 # Bagder: what should boottool be for a sim build? 22.40.25 # saratoga2: I would say "cp" 22.40.40 # yeps, cp should be fine I think 22.41.22 # cp seems odd 22.41.26 # why is it needed? 22.41.44 # it copies build/apps/rockbox.bin to build/rockbox.YOURNAME 22.41.45 # only to match the current system 22.46.20 # this gives me an executable, but running it has no effect 22.46.31 # i expected to get at least something printed to the console or an error 22.46.49 # well, single-step with gdb or use strace to see what it does 22.48.56 # hmm dies with "Exec format error" according to strace 22.49.28 # perhaps I shoudl work on getting apps compiling rather then trying to do a bootloader build 22.50.35 # what does readelf yield on build/apps/rockbox.elf ? 22.50.46 # @saratoga2 22.51.16 Quit thegeek_ ("( www.nnscript.com :: NoNameScript 4.2 :: www.regroup-esports.com )") 22.52.33 # readelf: Error: rockbox.bin: Failed to read file header 22.52.44 # @mcuelenaere 22.52.50 # ah yes it's probably objdump'ed already 22.52.58 # no, rockbox.elf 22.53.14 # normally that shouldn't be objdump'ed 22.53.25 # (it wasn't when I experimented with the build system) 22.53.27 # right, the .bin is not the .elf 22.54.00 Quit nplus (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 22.54.19 # perhaps you could even just run it? (the .elf file) 22.54.54 # heres bootloader.elf, which is probably what you want: http://pastebin.ca/1035270 22.55.11 # ah sorry, yes bootloader.elf 22.55.23 # hmm 300 bytes 22.55.30 # it doesn't seem to contain any code? 22.55.58 # thats the only elf file i get 22.56.07 # something went wrong during linking I guess 22.56.59 # you could try opening librockbox.a with IDA and see if it was compiled correctly 22.57.55 # (if you don't have IDA, readelf seems to also support it) 22.58.31 # well, just 'nm librockbox.a' could be a start 22.58.45 Join kugel [0] (n=chatzill@unaffiliated/kugel) 22.59.03 # Slasheri: Ping :) 22.59.04 # librockbox.a contains a lot of functions and references to various files so i assume it compiled 22.59.41 # so it went wrong during linking perhaps 22.59.53 # is there anything using the code in the .a file then? 23.00.27 # * mcuelenaere curses Firefox 23.00.29 # since theres no actual binary linking the .a file, i guess not 23.00.38 # just the empty elf file 23.01.28 # well, bootloader.elf has it specified on the link line 23.01.48 # thus if anything used one of the functions in there, that object file should be used 23.02.08 # I'm not sure i follow 23.02.09 Quit allele ("Java user signed off") 23.02.44 # saratoga2: I think the problem is just that you have no code in SOURCES that gets used for your build 23.02.51 # in bootloader/ 23.02.57 # yes thats true 23.03.02 # :) 23.03.49 # so I'd need something like "ipod.c" or whatever for SDL 23.03.53 # yes 23.04.05 # a main() with some basic stuff in it 23.04.16 # ah did not notice main was in there 23.04.26 # the bootloader has printf right? 23.04.49 # I'm not sure exactly how universal that is 23.04.50 Join nplus [0] (n=npl@141.25.Globcom.Net) 23.05.02 # but yes, there is a printf() in there 23.09.48 Join homielowe [0] (n=eric_j_l@d205-250-152-29.bchsia.telus.net) 23.11.41 # adding a main() function causes bootloader.elf to be 75KB and contain a lot of functions when i use readelf, however rockbox.bin still isn't executable 23.11.47 # its just 24 bytes 23.11.58 # is the elf one executable? 23.12.39 # Killed 23.12.43 # yes, actually, and it prints "Killed" 23.12.57 # rather then the Hello World I'd put in main() 23.13.34 # the .bin file is the elf file converted with objdump and that won't work for the sim 23.13.49 # for fixing that, use the ZVM way and define USE_ELF="yes" 23.13.52 # in tools/configure 23.14.29 # mcuelenaere: that's not used for the bootloader... 23.14.46 # but I guess it could be made to 23.15.32 Quit spiorf (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 23.15.38 # just so i understand, typically the binrary is compiled in elf and then converted with objdump somehwo for use as bootloader? 23.15.50 # yes 23.15.51 Join spiorf [0] (n=spiorf@host71-214-dynamic.20-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) 23.16.21 # the bin is then typically converted into the final output using a particular tool 23.16.39 # and USE_ELF will jsut tell it to keep the bootloader.elf file as the binary? 23.16.44 # * linuxstb_ wonders why an SDL target would need a bootloader 23.16.47 Nick linuxstb_ is now known as linuxstb (n=linuxstb@rockbox/developer/linuxstb) 23.16.47 # Bagder: you're right about the USE_ELF, bootloader/Makefile has to be adjusted in order to do this 23.17.03 # linuxstb: ask JdGordon :) 23.17.10 # linuxstb: it's just for testing purposes I presume 23.17.24 # he thought it'd be an easier way to get the target tree stuff tested without having to worry about apps initially 23.18.49 # I think a better approach is to simply ifdef out a lot of the code you want to wait with from SOURCES 23.18.52 # BigBambi: I've created a new task: http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/9059 23.18.56 # in apps 23.19.20 # Would someone with commit permission please review it? 23.20.41 Join viagra [0] (n=d4dbd3b2@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-c06a07c02d1f7a94) 23.20.41 Quit viagra (Client Quit) 23.21.17 # Bagder: thats easy enough I suppose 23.38.00 Join PaulJam_ [0] (i=PaulJam_@vpn-3040.gwdg.de) 23.38.06 # By the way, any ideas how to convert pcf to bdf cleanly? 23.38.37 # I saw somewhere on the net that pcf2bdf "generates irresponsible values for FONTBOUNDINGBOX" 23.41.45 Join FOAD_ [0] (n=dok@dinah.blub.net) 23.42.03 Quit Bagder ("*plopp*") 23.42.51 Join Bagder [241] (n=daniel@rockbox/developer/bagder) 23.42.55 # Never mind, I found the bdf sources :) 23.46.26 Quit kugel (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 23.46.40 Join kugel [0] (n=chatzill@unaffiliated/kugel) 23.46.58 Quit DerPapstr__ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 23.47.13 Join DerPapstr__ [0] (n=Der_Paps@p5B23D43E.dip.t-dialin.net) 23.48.37 # Hi all, is there any way to attach large attachments on the tracker? 23.49.50 # I want to attach a font that is 5 MB (compressed), so it exceeds the 2 MB attachment limit 23.50.34 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 23.52.00 # I don't think so 23.52.56 # Well, then, any ideas how to submit such a font? 23.53.15 # sure ... post a link to some site were you uploaded it ;-) 23.53.19 # It's huge because it contains 4 different point sizes 23.53.27 # And for both regular and bold 23.53.30 # Oh, ok 23.53.40 # can't you just attach the different versions individually? 23.53.48 # Would the original website be accepted? They are hosting it at SF 23.54.00 Quit FOAD (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 23.54.00 Nick FOAD_ is now known as FOAD (n=dok@dinah.blub.net) 23.54.06 # I can't think of any reason why this wouldn't acceptable. 23.54.25 # bluebrother: do you mean attach the individual font files as per point size? 23.54.48 # yes -- or is it a single file containing several sizes? 23.54.49 # I'm new to FS, so I don't know whether the limit is a total limit or an individual-attachment limit 23.55.20 # It's multiple files: total of 8 files, with 4 point sizes and then regular and bold versions 23.55.29 # well, I never tried attaching that large files so I don't know. But my guess is that it's per attachment. 23.55.33 # OK 23.55.49 # I think I'd also post a link to the original website 23.55.54 # Thanks :) 23.56.02 Quit M1DLG_ ("Ex-Chat") 23.57.05 # a link to the original website is always a good thing IMO 23.58.52 # OK