--- Log for 05.06.108 Server: zelazny.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 3 days and 18 hours ago 00.01.30 Quit Schmogel ("Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org") 00.01.56 Join [CBR]Unspoken|w [0] (n=cbr@212.98.160.130) 00.02.19 Quit davina (Remote closed the connection) 00.07.05 # Hi, I'm using rb's recording on my sansa for openstreetmapping. One thing that bugs me is that I can't easily decide if the device is recording or not. 00.07.23 # Are there any skins that give a clear indication of record/pause? 00.07.39 Quit bertrik ("bye") 00.08.17 Quit Laser87 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00.09.25 Join Laser87 [0] (n=jochen@p5B172CB8.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 00.10.49 # openstreetmapping? 00.11.14 # balug_ - do you not get the "while recording screen" ? 00.12.58 Join seisei [0] (n=48b1c3f6@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-2cad0ed047f009ac) 00.13.00 # I get the recording screen, no problem with that. But the only way to decide if it is recording is currently looking at the elapsed time and the size. 00.14.33 # balug_ - what theme are you using? I thought the default rockbox themes have a play/pause icon 00.14.37 # e.g. http://usuarios.lycos.es/delecami/WRS.pdf 00.14.54 # And this is a little awkward when walking thru the streets in the middle of the night. As the bottom of the screen is free, I'd like a nice big play / pause icon there. 00.16.19 # Yes, thats what I see. But the difference is only in like four tiny characters. Darn, maybe I'm getting old and loosing eyesight. 00.16.52 # Is there a way to format my m3u playlists in the Playlists folder to play the music loaded onto my ipod by itunes without having to reload the files directly into the Music folder? 00.18.10 Quit CyBergRind|w (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00.19.53 Quit keenox () 00.21.56 Join BigBambi [0] (n=Alex@rockbox/staff/BigBambi) 00.22.33 Join Dhraakellian [0] (n=ntryon@cpe-66-67-55-191.rochester.res.rr.com) 00.23.14 # balug_: there are plans to for the "wrs". The first goal is to make it use the user font, not the built-in small one. Work started but no-one can tell when that'll be in current builds 00.29.17 # pixelma: Thanks, good to know there is progress. Maybe I'll try to hack and change the background color or something. 00.30.58 # balug_: the colors should be changable through the theme settings, no hcaking needed 00.31.16 # colors = foreground and background 00.31.26 Part ganjaman 00.32.02 Join panic_help [0] (n=4b760c81@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-f7c36cdc668e747f) 00.32.37 # what does *PANIC* Event line full mean? 00.32.48 # n1s:guess he means that they should change on recording/paused state 00.33.11 # sansa E250 playin a standard unDRMed MP3 00.33.15 # ah, then hacking is needed 00.33.24 # do the bmp functions for rockbox allow the background of the bmps to be transparent 00.33.42 # panic_help: that something went very wrong and that you are probably using an old build as that bug is supposed to be fixed 00.33.49 # panic_help: how old is your build? 00.33.57 # 2 days 00.34.26 # balug_: I'm curious, how do you do openstreetmapping with an audio recorder? 00.34.28 # panic_help: what r number does it show when starting or in the "rockbox info" screen 00.34.58 # its my moms... and she just took it too play a game, one sec 00.35.54 # ok, slightly older... 17451 00.36.06 # ok, then update and it should be fixed 00.36.12 # ok, ty 00.37.00 Quit EspeonEefi ("さよなら") 00.37.03 # hey, anyone have an iSing from outrageous? 00.37.59 Quit hannesd (Read error: 148 (No route to host)) 00.38.11 # panic_help: I don't know what that is, but it sounds off topic 00.38.41 # its just a dap very similar too an archos, i was thinking about starting a port 00.39.03 # studio* dont know how i skipped that 00.39.38 # panic_help: In that case, OK :) 00.39.47 # which archos though? 00.39.54 # STUDIO 00.40.13 # OK, calm down 00.40.15 # oops, caps key >.> 00.40.27 # :) 00.40.54 Nick panic_help is now known as Gartral (n=4b760c81@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-f7c36cdc668e747f) 00.41.12 # Rockbox doesn't support that, so unless something like archopen has done any work (I don't know), it'd be a new port in the standard sense 00.41.33 Join Bensawsome [0] (n=Bensawso@c-71-235-222-135.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) 00.41.49 Quit n1s () 00.42.34 # BigBambi: ? 00.42.42 Quit ender` (" On the other hand, you have different fingers.") 00.42.59 # er, ignore me 00.43.10 # from the outside it has a headphone port, mic, mic in, line in (seperate from mic in), USB A to A and SD/MMC card slot, a hold mode and 11 buttons 00.43.22 Join SinthrillMeadear [0] (n=4c54e2aa@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-40d491284f365473) 00.43.31 # Gartral, pixelma: Sorry, I don't know what I was on about then 00.43.47 # the old Player with the charcell display is sometimes also called "Studio" 00.43.48 # Gartral, pixelma: The studio is very much working 00.43.51 # Nico_P: I walk along the road, gpx logger in pocket, and whenever I set a waypoint, I record a short message on the device. So I'm often pressing play/pause to switch. 00.45.02 # balug_: right. btw, are you the one who posted the FS feature request for an openstreetmap plugin? 00.45.22 # Nico_P: And sometimes I've noticed afterwards that I got out of sync and inverted the state. That I recorded everything but my message. Grmbl. 00.45.57 # I can see how that can be frustrating 00.46.04 # i just fixed the Arctic_Desert theme for the 5g Ipod. Can I get write permission for the wiki? 00.46.09 # Gartral: but the Player/Studio doesn't have an SD/MMC slot. And similarities in looks can sometimes be misleading, like e.g. the v2 sansas look the same as the v1 ones but have very different hardware inside. Do you know more about that device? 00.46.22 # Nico_P: No, but I had the same idea weeks ago. And it was the reason for me visiting the website tonight. And then I noticed that somebody else had this idea yesterday. Bugger :-) 00.47.56 # balug_: it actually seems feasible (don't know about the performance requirements, but I guess recent targets like the S will be able to handle it). I've started work on an sqlite port to rockbox, and from what I saw the data is available as an sqlite DB. 00.49.24 # Gartral: do you mean that thing http://news.softpedia.com/newsImage/It-039-s-Outrageous-Time-iSing-You-Sing-Everybody-Dance-2.jpg ?? 00.49.45 Part LinusN 00.49.54 Quit bughunter2 ("bye") 00.50.34 Quit Rob2223 () 00.51.04 # Nico_P: I think, the sqlite is just the way to trick the original iphone map application into using osm data. I would just have thrown a bunch of bitmap tiles in a dir structure. 00.51.24 Join peter-b [0] (n=peter_b@p5497B9E8.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 00.51.28 # ah, right 00.51.46 # I didn't read enough of the post the first time ;) 00.52.37 Quit PaulJam_ (".") 00.52.41 Quit peter_b (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 00.52.54 Quit perrikwp ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") 00.53.23 # Nico_P: How much effort would it be to write a small rb app that just knows about the dir structure, displays bitmaps and maps the keys to up, down, left and right scrolling? 00.54.02 # probably not too much actually 00.55.46 # I'll look into it. 00.56.00 Join Rob2222 [0] (n=Miranda@p4FDCE05E.dip.t-dialin.net) 00.56.32 # there's a wiki page on how to write plugins, and a helloworld example 00.56.51 # displaying a bitmap file is quite easy 00.59.48 Nick SinthrillMeadear is now known as CharlesMarquardt (n=4c54e2aa@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-40d491284f365473) 01.00.32 Join perrikwp [0] (i=d1a8d351@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-c65a4ce2959d3f88) 01.01.03 Quit seisei ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 01.01.05 Join Shaid [0] (n=adam@dsl-202-45-112-116-static.VIC.netspace.net.au) 01.03.16 Quit CharlesMarquardt ("CGI:IRC 0.5.9 (2006/06/06)") 01.03.49 Join CharlesMarquardt [0] (n=4c54e2aa@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-aab56cfa81810acc) 01.04.29 Quit herrwaldo (Remote closed the connection) 01.05.34 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 01.06.58 Join ubuntuuuu [0] (n=5439da76@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-575e52ea55c012f5) 01.07.13 Nick hd is now known as HellDragon (i=jd@unaffiliated/helldragon) 01.08.29 # Short question: I've set up everything in Ubuntu... and now i got a lot of "Warning differs ... signdness" 01.08.40 # Does that mean trouble ;-) 01.09.35 # (its so fast in comaprison to cygwin in nearly cant believe it) 01.10.20 # does that have anything to do with Rockbox? 01.10.27 Quit Gartral ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)") 01.10.31 Join SirFunk [0] (n=Sir@206-159-155-246.netsync.net) 01.10.45 # Yes.. the warnings are showing up during compile 01.13.12 Quit SirFunk (SendQ exceeded) 01.13.49 Join SirFunk [0] (n=Sir@206-159-155-246.netsync.net) 01.14.28 Quit robin0800 (" HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- Nine out of ten l33t h4x0rz prefer it") 01.14.57 Quit CharlesMarquardt ("CGI:IRC 0.5.9 (2006/06/06)") 01.16.10 Quit Laser87 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 01.18.15 Quit balug_ ("Ex-Chat") 01.19.04 # in ubuntu I've gotten tond of warnings about differs in signedness 01.19.19 # even using breezy badger 01.20.57 Join fdinel [0] (n=Miranda@modemcable097.232-203-24.mc.videotron.ca) 01.22.12 Join Laser87 [0] (n=jochen@p5B1723BA.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 01.25.46 Quit inversions (Connection timed out) 01.28.52 Quit SirFunk ("Ex-Chat") 01.29.00 Part toffe82 01.31.35 # so is that a problem... or just an important warning? 01.31.55 # they're warnings 01.32.09 # if it compiles fine, then they're not an issue. 01.35.33 Quit gregzx ("ChatZilla 0.9.82.1 [Firefox 2.0.0.14/2008040413]") 01.36.42 # fine.. so i am happy... 01.36.45 # THANKS 01.37.59 # hehe 01.38.13 # so anyone know anything about the rb bmp functions? 01.41.29 Quit DerDome ("Leaving.") 01.42.26 Quit Bensawsome ("The awsome is gone :(") 01.45.45 Quit knittl (Remote closed the connection) 01.48.53 Join miepchen^schlaf [0] (n=miepchen@p54BF437D.dip.t-dialin.net) 01.50.40 # well I answered my question about whether the bmps are transparent - no they are not 01.53.27 Nick Seedy is now known as Seed (i=ben@bzq-84-108-237-178.cablep.bezeqint.net) 01.54.04 Join jeffdamet1 [0] (n=jeff@dyndsl-091-096-042-127.ewe-ip-backbone.de) 01.54.12 # there's no alpha transperency in Rockbox if you mean that but you can "mark" parts transparent by using magenta - unless the bitmap is used as backdrop and only for colour targets. Some plugins use this in their graphics e.g. jewels 02.01.05 Quit ubuntuuuu ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 02.01.23 Join spiorf [0] (n=spiorf@host71-214-dynamic.20-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) 02.01.28 # o ok, thanks. I was planning on just breaking up the image into boxes where it would be solid, but this is much easier :D 02.04.46 Quit Nico_P (Remote closed the connection) 02.08.51 # 'icon' bitmaps too 02.10.59 Quit jeffdameth (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 02.11.44 Quit stripwax ("Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org") 02.12.03 Join toffe82 [0] (n=chatzill@adsl-71-132-86-197.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net) 02.17.37 Join SirFunk [0] (n=Sir@206-159-155-246.netsync.net) 02.18.20 Join Daishi [0] (n=daishi@ool-18be2452.dyn.optonline.net) 02.19.56 Quit dabujo_ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 02.29.59 Join petur [50] (n=petur@rockbox/developer/petur) 02.30.34 Quit XavierGr (Nick collision from services.) 02.30.45 Join XavierGr [0] (n=xavier@rockbox/staff/XavierGr) 02.31.57 # * petur offers drinks for everybody (beer, champagne, you name it) :D 02.33.47 # kid? 02.33.52 # yes 02.33.55 # \o/ 02.34.01 # congrats! 02.34.03 # first one ? 02.34.06 # it's a girl, name = Lotte 02.34.12 # yes, first one 02.34.41 # another future rockbox hacker? =P 02.34.55 # hehe 02.35.15 # if rockbox still exists in 15 years.. 02.35.26 # why not ;) 02.36.23 # petur: we demand pictures! 02.36.55 # * petur gets the card out of his camera 02.37.25 # congrats! 02.37.28 # although if you are exhausted enough, we can wait till tomorrow :) 02.38.00 # congrats - I always figured your avatar was one of your kids and you WTB time to spend with them. 02.38.23 # did you use Rockbox to tape the delivery? ;) 02.38.38 # soap: the avatar is actually a very old pic of me 02.38.43 # soap: a bit disturbing much? ;) 02.39.29 # to keep this on topic: in the hospital I played music using my h380 and an old radio with line-in 02.40.00 # future devs are on topic =P 02.41.20 # short nights are comings so you will have more time to dev , between two bibs ;) 02.43.03 # too many channels... my congratulation is in the other one ;) :) 02.43.49 Nick fxb is now known as fxb__ (n=felixbru@h1252615.stratoserver.net) 02.43.56 # thanks all... first pic is up: http://users.telenet.be/petur/lotte.jpg 02.44.51 Nick fxb__ is now known as fxb (n=felixbru@h1252615.stratoserver.net) 02.45.56 # wow...thats a lot of hair...dark stuff too 02.57.50 Quit Thundercloud (Remote closed the connection) 02.58.00 Quit spiorf (Remote closed the connection) 03.04.32 Part pixelma 03.05.38 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 03.18.56 Join cool_walking_ [0] (n=notroot@203-59-129-195.perm.iinet.net.au) 03.26.39 Join blackvd [0] (n=blackvd@c-76-103-131-141.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) 03.29.07 # I just used the gui installer for rockbox on my iriver H300. I see all the files have been downloaded to the root directory. I downloaded the firmware from iriver and had the installer patch it. however when I reboot it boots to the normal firmware? every time I rerun the bootloader install it says its up to date. 03.31.47 # hm ...now I'm getting Could not detect firmware type? 03.36.01 # ok so I downloaded the Korean 1.29 firmware and copied it to my iriver root dir ...selected install bootloader and pointed to the H300.hex file. Said every thing went fine. rebooted and still nothing? 03.39.47 # never mind forgot to flash >_> 03.40.11 Quit fdinel (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 03.42.11 Part blackvd 03.49.30 Nick fxb is now known as fxb__ (n=felixbru@h1252615.stratoserver.net) 04.10.04 Quit Naked (zelazny.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 04.10.04 NSplit zelazny.freenode.net irc.freenode.net 04.10.13 NHeal zelazny.freenode.net irc.freenode.net 04.10.13 NJoin Naked [0] (i=naked@naked.iki.fi) 04.10.42 Quit cool_walking_ (zelazny.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 04.10.42 Quit miepchen^schlaf (zelazny.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 04.10.42 Quit Xerion (zelazny.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 04.10.42 Quit tvelocity (zelazny.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 04.10.42 Quit k4y (zelazny.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 04.10.42 Quit thegeek_ (zelazny.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 04.10.42 Quit axionix (zelazny.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 04.10.42 Quit w0rd54 (zelazny.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 04.10.42 Quit advcomp2019 (zelazny.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 04.10.42 Quit daywalker (zelazny.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 04.10.42 Quit maraz_ (zelazny.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 04.11.04 NJoin cool_walking_ [0] (n=notroot@203-59-129-195.perm.iinet.net.au) 04.11.04 NJoin miepchen^schlaf [0] (n=miepchen@p54BF437D.dip.t-dialin.net) 04.11.04 NJoin Xerion [0] (n=xerion@cp198589-d.landg1.lb.home.nl) 04.11.04 NJoin tvelocity [0] (n=tony@79.131.100.138) 04.11.04 NJoin k4y [0] (n=jackass@dsl-243-94-115.telkomadsl.co.za) 04.11.04 NJoin thegeek_ [0] (i=thegeek@s220b.studby.ntnu.no) 04.11.04 NJoin axionix [0] (n=axion@cpe-74-70-239-117.nycap.res.rr.com) 04.11.04 NJoin w0rd54 [0] (i=blackdev@100mbit.top-site.us) 04.11.04 NJoin advcomp2019 [0] (n=advcomp2@unaffiliated/advcomp2019) 04.11.04 NJoin maraz_ [0] (i=maraz@xob.kapsi.fi) 04.11.04 NJoin daywalker [0] (n=daywalke@ip-77-87-189-6.dnspower.de) 04.13.45 Join BHSPitLappy [0] (n=BHSPitLa@adsl-66-141-166-195.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net) 04.16.54 # hmm... I notice that when I have my e200 plugged in with rockbox (charging only), the battery indicator climbs steadily and relatively quickly up to 100, but then it shortly starts dropping off quickly again 04.24.54 # petur: wow! Gongratulations for your cute baby girl. :D 04.26.34 # thnx 04.27.24 Join miepchen^schlaf_ [0] (n=miepchen@p54BF7BCC.dip.t-dialin.net) 04.29.59 Join johfiner [0] (n=18b01a7c@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-0e669fcfb32ace7a) 04.32.07 # so rockbox is frozen on my ipod photo with an error that was addressed in a recent build BUT the hard reset and shutdown will not work. do i have to wait until the battery dies? 04.32.37 # hard reset always works 04.32.59 # really? in the manual it says a hard reset is holding menu + pause, and that is not working 04.33.14 # if it doesnt, you either have a physically broken device, or are doing it wrong 04.34.01 # hold menu and the center button 04.34.08 # yeah i've done that 04.34.13 Quit nicktastic (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 04.34.16 # for like 3 seconds, and 30 seconds.... 04.34.24 # maybe it really is broken 04.34.47 # flick the hold switch on, then off, then hold the menu and center button for 30 seconds...take care not to move your fingers too much 04.35.28 # okay the problem is the user, of course, i apparently missed the flicking of the hold switch. that worked 04.35.35 # thank you! 04.35.38 # it isnt always required 04.35.46 # oh ok 04.36.17 # well thanks, i wish i would have done that a few hours ago 04.37.12 Join nicktastic [0] (n=nick@unaffiliated/nicktastic) 04.40.16 Quit johfiner ("CGI:IRC") 04.42.44 Quit miepchen^schlaf (Connection timed out) 04.50.35 # hello 04.50.38 # gevaerts here? 04.50.40 # n1s? 04.55.49 Join drfsupercenter [0] (i=your_mom@d14-69-192-60.try.wideopenwest.com) 04.55.50 Join EspeonEefi [0] (i=espeonee@STRATTON-FOUR-SIXTY-TWO.MIT.EDU) 04.56.05 # Anyway, I found that the CF card was the culprit 04.57.37 # I used a transcend cf card last night, TS8GCF133, and it didn't work 04.57.47 # now I tried using a sony 1G card, 66x, it works 05.02.45 Quit Horscht ("electromagnetic radiation from satellite debris") 05.03.54 Quit XavierGr () 05.05.40 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 05.07.24 Quit nedd1 ("Leaving.") 05.12.10 Part wpyh 05.13.20 Quit perrikwp ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") 05.14.20 Join perrikwp [0] (i=d1a8d351@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-ef11d1978bd7d403) 05.16.00 Join wpyh [0] (n=william@th245062.ip.tsinghua.edu.cn) 05.26.43 # does anyone know, how to force a 5.5gen iPod Video to use 512-byte sectors? 05.26.52 # Maybe edit the firmware / flash? 05.30.36 Join Gungnir [0] (n=chatzill@adsl-70-228-69-17.dsl.akrnoh.ameritech.net) 05.31.10 Nick drfsupercenter is now known as drf|away (i=your_mom@d14-69-192-60.try.wideopenwest.com) 05.34.29 # So, just to double-check what the site told me: If I've got a Sansa v2, I'm out of luck? 05.34.49 # ": Sansa c200, e200 and e200R series (not the v2 models) " 05.35.16 # wpyh: you could check the SVN logs for the day support for the 80GB model was added 05.35.23 # and simply undo that patch i guess 05.35.43 # i think that would force 512 byte sectors, but i've never looked at it 05.36.12 # Thought so. Thanks for answering. 05.36.22 Quit Gungnir ("ChatZilla 0.9.82.1 [Firefox 2.0.0.14/2008040413]") 05.37.07 # saratoga: I was wondering if I could patch the OF 05.37.28 # because if I put RB's bootloader into it, it doesn't even read the bootloader 05.37.41 # it just simply goes to the restore screen :( 05.37.44 # thats going to be an enormous amount of work 05.38.21 # but if you're really good at reading assembly you might figure out how it decides which sector size to use and patch it 05.38.35 # assuming its possible to patch that ROM code anyway 05.38.43 # * wpyh scratches head 05.39.06 # That's the problem, I don't know too much about assembly 05.39.18 # anyway, the problem is with CF card 05.39.36 # with sony's NCFB1G I can boot fine 05.39.47 # but with transcend's TS8GCF133 I can't boot 05.40.06 # the apple bootloader doesn't even recognize RB's bootloader 05.40.20 # I also tried iPodLinux's bootloader, and it didn't recognize it too 05.40.55 # But the weird thing is, when I put a new firmware updater in the fw partition, the ipod flashes itself, successfully 05.40.59 # Any ideas? 05.41.21 # get a CF card taht works and use that 05.41.51 # uh... that seems to be the *easiest* route 05.43.32 # does it load the bootloader at all or does it crash before transfering to it from the Apple firmware? 05.43.48 # how do I determine whether it crashed? 05.45.30 # I'm not familar with the ipod bootloader code, but i'd imagine you could figure it out with some debugging there 05.45.30 Join nuonguy [0] (n=john@c-24-6-175-26.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) 05.45.45 # maybe try printing from it's main() routine first thing and see if it works? 05.46.12 # um, let's see 05.46.55 # uh, let's do it step by step 05.47.03 # right now I'm using the working card (sony) 05.47.17 # I've put the BL and the 64MB build of RB 05.47.30 # then it boots and said "No partition found" 05.48.03 # No partition found" 05.48.05 # No partition found" 05.48.13 # well the first thing i'd do is try and figure out what software printed the "No partition found" message 05.48.27 # thats probably as good a place as any to look 05.48.37 # it's the RB bootloader 05.48.41 # ok 05.49.50 Join neddy [0] (n=john@nat/sun/x-809550579dc2cc4e) 05.51.34 Quit neddy (Client Quit) 05.57.20 Join morghanphoenix [0] (n=phoenix@97-113-102-3.tukw.qwest.net) 05.58.43 # I've got the installation utility downloaded, and my ipod mounted at /media/IPOD and the type selected, the iPod mounted and when I click complete installation it says no iPods found. 05.59.24 Quit perrikwp ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") 05.59.39 Join perrikwp [0] (i=d1a8d351@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-85608152e4f39ccf) 05.59.45 # any idea what I'm doing wrong? 06.00.46 # my permissions are fine as well, I can read and write the mount point, and I did a ipod reboot into disk mode like the manual says. 06.02.56 # morghanphoenix, what kind of ipod do you have? 06.03.05 # 5th gen video 06.03.15 Quit Zarggg ("Pursued by a bear") 06.03.20 # are you sure it's not a classic? 06.03.34 # and are you running rbutil as root / with sudo? 06.03.56 # It's the black one with mp4 video support. 06.04.12 # that also describes the classic. 06.04.29 # hmm, how do I find the difference? 06.04.41 # http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1353 06.05.48 # doesn't look like the classic comes in 80GB 06.06.00 # it does. 06.06.07 # http://ipodlinux.org/Generations#Sixth_Generation_.286G.2FClassic.29 may be more clear 06.11.02 Quit saratoga ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)") 06.11.17 Quit DerPapst (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 06.11.25 Quit allele ("Java user signed off") 06.11.37 Quit Laser87 (Read error: 101 (Network is unreachable)) 06.11.55 # still a bit fuzzy, but a google for model ma450ll seems to turn up classic, even though I coulda swore the box said 5th generation whe n I bought it last year. 06.12.34 Join Laser87 [0] (n=jochen@p5B17100A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 06.12.56 # does the ipod have rounded edges and a matte finish, or are they more square with a shiny finish? 06.14.35 # pretty shiny 06.15.00 # ah, on the seccond page. classics are matted 06.15.10 # so I guess it is a 5g 06.15.52 # so, are you running rbutil as root/sudo? 06.16.42 # there it goes :) Wasn't root :P now I feel dumb, didn't see it say I needed to be root anywhere. 06.17.11 # Will this blank me or do I still need to figure out how to get rid of those ipod photos that are on there somehow? 06.17.42 # extracting failed, unable to create a directory. 06.18.13 # what does "blank me" mean? 06.18.29 # rbutil will not format your device 06.18.41 # remove all the pictures and songs on there like itunes or is it just a firmware install 06.18.45 # ah 06.19.35 # there it goes, it unmounted and remounted as ipod-1 06.20.26 Quit petur ("Zzzzz") 06.21.05 # Figured it was time to try something different since I need to update my ipod again and don't want to convert 80gigs off oggs to mp3s like I did last time I updated the ipod 06.21.27 # transcoding is not good... 06.21.49 # (lossy to lossy of course) 06.22.00 Quit jhMikeS (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 06.23.46 # well, rockbox up and running. now I just need some wiki time to figure out how to use it. 06.24.05 # * morghanphoenix wonders how well doom will be playable on an ipod :) 06.28.08 Join Zarggg [0] (n=z@216-15-73-111.c3-0.eas-ubr6.atw-eas.pa.cable.rcn.com) 06.28.28 Quit Zarggg (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 06.29.37 Join Zarggg [0] (n=z@216-15-73-111.c3-0.eas-ubr6.atw-eas.pa.cable.rcn.com) 06.30.42 Join DaCapn [0] (n=dacapn@c-67-170-177-22.hsd1.or.comcast.net) 06.31.53 Join jhMikeS [50] (n=jethead7@rockbox/developer/jhMikeS) 06.32.09 Quit crope ("Leaving") 06.37.57 # thanks scorche|sh Got it up and running now, just need to read up on how to work it now :) 06.38.29 Join crope [0] (n=crope@dyn3-82-128-187-102.psoas.suomi.net) 06.44.25 Join brent113 [0] (n=brent113@63.224.195.247) 06.44.30 Quit brent113 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 06.44.38 Quit morghanphoenix ("Leaving") 06.47.57 Join pabs [0] (n=pabs@xor.pablotron.org) 06.49.50 Quit AndyI (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 06.50.56 Quit K4rP4D ("Leaving") 06.54.57 Join Bagderr [241] (n=daniel@rockbox/developer/bagder) 06.55.21 Nick Bagderr is now known as B4gder (n=daniel@rockbox/developer/bagder) 07.05.44 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 07.08.02 Quit wpyh (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 07.08.45 Join wpyh [0] (n=william@th245062.ip.tsinghua.edu.cn) 07.09.03 Part wpyh 07.09.06 Join wpyh [0] (n=william@th245062.ip.tsinghua.edu.cn) 07.09.16 Part wpyh 07.09.24 Join wpyh [0] (n=william@th245062.ip.tsinghua.edu.cn) 07.10.00 # does anyone know whether RB works on ipod video 5.5g 30GB? 07.10.40 Join AndyI [0] (n=pasha_in@212.14.205.32) 07.11.04 # it does 07.11.17 # as is mentioned on the front page of the site 07.11.47 # any problems with the 2048-byte sector size? 07.12.26 # problems as in how? 07.12.56 # as in the 5.5g 80GB model initially had problems booting 07.13.11 # initially? you mean many moon ago? 07.13.28 # yeah, many fullmoons ago.. 07.14.06 # those problems are fixed a long time ago 07.14.57 # ok 07.15.11 # so, was the problem in the 30gb model the same as the one in the 80gb model? 07.15.48 # I believe so 07.15.52 Join simonrvn_ [0] (i=simon@unaffiliated/simonrvn) 07.17.47 # well, then I don't understand the 64MB ram selection in the tools/configure script 07.18.13 # why would that be about the disk? 07.18.22 # AFAIK, the 5g-30GB and 5.5g-30GB models have 32 MB of RAM, and the 5g-60GB and 5.5g-80GB models have 64 MB of RAM 07.18.35 # exactly 07.18.37 # well, if I recall correctly it turns on some sort of switch 07.18.38 # RAM 07.19.35 # it makes rockbox use the suitable amount of memory 07.20.15 # oh 07.20.20 # I was hallucinating, sorry 07.20.42 # I thought I saw that the 64MB ram selection was used to determine the sector size... 07.20.48 # couldn't find it in the sources now 07.20.50 # sorry :( 07.20.56 Join peter__b [0] (n=peter_b@p5497918E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 07.21.18 Quit simonrvn (Nick collision from services.) 07.21.19 Nick simonrvn_ is now known as simonrvn (i=simon@unaffiliated/simonrvn) 07.21.45 # Can the amount of RAM not be detected at runtime? Just curious 07.21.56 # it can 07.22.08 # but nobody has yet done the necessary fixes to unify the builds 07.22.14 # Ah 07.22.32 # like now it runs the plugins at a fixed address and the end of RAM 07.22.42 # Ah 07.22.54 # at the end even 07.22.57 # 640Kb? 07.23.11 Quit peter-b (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 07.23.28 # B4gder: that would be cool to have :) 07.23.42 # yeps, I agree 07.24.05 Quit BHSPitLappy (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 07.24.29 Quit pabs ("curse you ssh-agent") 07.25.59 Join pabs [0] (n=pabs@xor.pablotron.org) 07.27.02 Join morghanphoenix [0] (n=phoenix@97-113-102-3.tukw.qwest.net) 07.27.52 # heh, only found one problem with rockbox so far, so many cool plugins I need to drop some of my music files to make space for it :) 07.28.25 # How small is your disk??? 07.28.29 # rockbox should take less space than one typical song 07.28.35 # yeah 07.28.50 # 80, it's not rockbox, it's the wads and the gameboy roms 07.28.58 # haha 07.29.52 # make way, floyd. the good dr. mario is in. 07.30.10 # heh 07.30.31 # Lufia, Final Fantasy Adventure, Zelda, Azure Dreams :) 07.30.48 # well.. I can imagine your ipod being a portable game device rather than music device... 07.30.49 # this is getting a bit off-topic... 07.30.59 # * wpyh shuts up 07.31.31 # yeah, the gp2x is my game device, I just thought it was nice that it worked in rockbox. 07.33.25 Quit morghanphoenix ("Leaving") 07.34.15 # B4gder, wpyh: Actually there were 2 problems regarding the G5.5. (1) The logical sector size of 2048 bytes. This was solved early, with a clever trick in the fat driver (after the first try was very unstable). (2) The physical sector size of 1024 bytes (80GB model only) 07.35.10 Quit thegeek_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 07.35.11 Quit axionix (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 07.35.25 # amiconn: OK, so rockbox sees the drive as 2048-byte sectors when it is booted up, right? 07.35.34 # no 07.35.48 # no? 07.35.54 # uh.. 07.36.07 # At the ata api level, a sector is always 512 bytes 07.36.31 # The ata driver handles the translation on the G5.5/80GB 07.37.07 # Handling the 2048 byte logical sectors is done by just splitting them into 4 * 512 byte 07.37.33 # so, for the 5g(30,60) and 5.5g(30), rockbox sees the drive as 512 byte sectors, while for the 5.5g(80) rockbox sees it as 1024 byte sectors? 07.38.10 # no 07.38.39 # All of rockbox always sees the drive as having 512 byte sectors, on all targets, except the ata driver itself 07.38.45 Quit Laser87 (Read error: 101 (Network is unreachable)) 07.39.21 # oh, ok 07.39.26 # I mean the ata driver 07.39.31 Quit Daishi (Remote closed the connection) 07.39.37 # what does the ata driver see, on the 5g and 5.5g ipods? 07.40.05 # The ata driver queries the disk (if support for large physical sectors is compiled in), and if sectors are larger than 512 bytes, splits them on read, and combines them on write 07.40.18 # ok 07.40.32 # This is done via a single-sector cache 07.40.54 Join Laser87 [0] (n=jochen@p5B1707AD.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 07.41.17 # ok, I understand the "translation" part now 07.41.34 # for the 80gb drive, I saw on toshiba's website / pdf that it has 512 byte sectors 07.41.36 # ...and it's the reason why *writing* in small chunks is slow in G5.5/80, because it means reading a 1024 byte physical sector, changing the appropriate partial 512 byte sector, and writing back 1024 bytes 07.41.37 # so that's false? 07.41.58 # The retail version most probably supports 512 byte sectors 07.42.09 # The problem is only with the oem version used in the ipod 07.42.36 # ok... how do I check whether it's 1024 or 512 byte sectors? 07.43.39 Join Buschel [0] (n=abc@p54A3DBDB.dip.t-dialin.net) 07.43.43 # The same way as ata.c does.... 07.44.36 # See ata.c lines 1214 ff 07.44.58 # ok, looking at ata_init() now 07.45.36 # ah, I see the DEBUGF lines 07.46.25 # is this done in the BL or the FW, by the way? I think it's in the BL, but then the configure script doesn't give an option for debug bootloader build 07.46.28 # saratoga: still there? 07.46.39 # wpyh: It's done in both 07.46.43 Join ender` [0] (i=krneki@foo.eternallybored.org) 07.47.05 # ok... 07.47.24 # Debug builds are only useful on targets where you can hook up gdb 07.47.34 # oh.. 07.47.47 # well, I see it now: MK8010GAH 07.47.50 # in the debug menu 07.49.12 Quit Seed (Nick collision from services.) 07.49.19 Join Seed [0] (i=ben@bzq-84-108-237-178.cablep.bezeqint.net) 07.50.15 Part toffe82 07.56.49 # amiconn: how do we know the sector size from the ata identify dump? 07.57.04 # I dumped it, then did "od -t x1 /tmp/identify_info.bin -v | cut -f 2- -d ' ' | grep ' ' | sed -e 's, ,,g' | hdparm --Istdin" 07.57.41 # here's the result: http://pastebin.com/m29a5682 07.59.37 Quit Laser87 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 07.59.59 Quit peter__b (Remote closed the connection) 08.01.35 Join Laser87 [0] (n=jochen@p5B170677.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 08.03.47 # are the wps filenames width x height or height x witdh? 08.05.25 # width x height is usually the standard for image sizes, I'd expect that to be the case here to 08.08.36 # thats what I thught.. just double checking... 08.10.35 # can somone with a c200 please dump a screenshot of what the cabbiev2 theme looks like with and without AA loaded? 08.11.46 Quit Seed (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 08.14.28 Quit miepchen^schlaf_ () 08.16.38 # saratoga: let us talk when you are awake again :) i'll be back again in about 10 hours 08.16.48 Quit Buschel () 08.23.42 # currently there is no way to define a wps viewport so it uses the themes colours without knowing the colours right? 08.24.15 Quit m0f0x () 08.29.09 Quit BigBambi (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 08.31.08 Join Bagder_ [0] (n=daniel@1-1-5-26a.hud.sth.bostream.se) 08.32.03 Quit shadghost (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 08.32.59 # wpyh: hdparm obviously doesn't know about the large physical sector feature 08.33.19 # I'd just open identify_info.bin in a hex editor and check the respective word 08.34.03 # oh.. 08.34.19 # which word is it? 08.34.31 # The same as the ata driver uses.... 08.34.38 # oh.. 08.34.51 # Word 106 (ata words, i.e. 16 bit) 08.36.44 # it's 0x0160 there 08.37.14 # oh, I see 08.37.26 Join petur [50] (n=petur@rockbox/developer/petur) 08.37.29 # it's not the little endian byte order, so it's 0x6001 08.37.39 Quit perrikwp ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") 08.37.50 # then as ata.c does, 1 << (0x6001 & 0x000f) becomes 0x02 08.38.03 # so the sector size would be 2 * 512 = 1024? 08.38.14 # Yes, the ata identify dumps are always written as big endian, in order to avoid confusion 08.38.18 # yes 08.38.24 # OK, thanks 08.38.27 Join Seed [0] (i=ben@bzq-84-108-237-178.cablep.bezeqint.net) 08.39.09 # now I (i'm using the hdd) commented out the #define MAX_PHYS_SECTOR_SIZE in export/config-ipodvideo.h 08.39.30 # and see that RB fails to boot now, it says no partition found 08.41.01 # Of course 08.41.25 # The disk reports an error if you don't read complete physical sectors 08.41.40 # oh.... I got it 08.41.42 # ...and that's what happens then since rockbox tries to read 512 byte sectors 08.42.04 # It already fails at the very start, when trying to read the mbr in disk.c 08.42.37 # it's weird though, since I found a usable CF card (sony NCFB1G) that can boot the OF just fine 08.42.46 # but fails to boot RB in the same way (no partitions found) 08.42.48 # any ideas? 08.42.55 Join davina [0] (n=davina@cpc1-sout6-0-0-cust616.sotn.cable.ntl.com) 08.44.46 # Debug... 08.44.53 # how? 08.44.57 Quit Seed (Nick collision from services.) 08.45.04 Join Seed [0] (i=ben@bzq-84-108-237-178.cablep.bezeqint.net) 08.45.19 Join Rob2223 [0] (n=Miranda@p4FDCF664.dip.t-dialin.net) 08.46.31 # How did you test, btw? Maybe the bootloader fails already? You need a current bootloader for proper CF support 08.46.53 Join goffa_ [0] (n=goffa@216.220.23.105) 08.46.56 # I got it off svn :) 08.47.07 # yes, I think it fails in the bootloader 08.47.33 Quit Laser87 (Read error: 101 (Network is unreachable)) 08.47.39 # The bootloader uses the same code for ata & fat as the main build, and the bootloader needs to load rockbox from disk 08.48.27 # I prepended "ipod.c: " to the message "No partitions found" in bootloader/ipod.c and it shows up 08.48.35 # which shows that it failed in the bootloader 08.48.40 # petur did the CF compatibility work 08.48.41 Quit Bagder (Connection timed out) 08.48.56 # ok 08.48.57 Join Laser87 [0] (n=jochen@p5B17010F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 08.49.00 # petur: you here? 08.49.50 # It's most probably another nasty deviation from the ata standard of your CF card 08.50.06 # btw, if I force the BL to use 2048 byte sectors, it works fine 08.50.11 # * amiconn is successfully running a 32GB CF card in his ipod mini 08.50.13 # * petur yawns and thinks 1.5 hours sleep is not enough anymore 08.50.29 # * wpyh wants that cardd 08.50.53 # petur: heard you're the one who did CF compatibility here 08.51.20 # hmmm amiconn knows at least as much as I on this topic (if not more) 08.51.41 # You did the whole debugging though 08.51.49 # ack 08.52.39 # wpyh: This one: http://www.transcendusa.com/Products/ModDetail.asp?ModNo=174&LangNo=0 08.53.38 # wpyh: maybe start by uploading a dump of the identify info to the wiki 08.53.40 # well, that's TS32GCF133, while my non-working-cf-card is TS8GCF133 08.53.42 Quit Seed (Nick collision from services.) 08.53.50 Join Seed [0] (i=ben@bzq-84-108-237-178.cablep.bezeqint.net) 08.54.10 # I certainly have no time at all, I shouldn't even be typing here :/ 08.54.29 # petur: one card (TS8GCF133) didn't work even with the OF, while another card (NCFB1G) doesn't boot RB properly 08.54.34 # ok 08.54.57 Quit Laser87 (Remote closed the connection) 08.55.06 # amiconn: regarding the cards, then I think the transcend cards can't handle sectors > 512 bytes 08.55.09 # what do you think? 08.55.25 # wpyh: on iriver, most cards don't work with OF 08.56.03 # petur: well, I put the BL on that transcend card but the ipod always says "restore with itunes" 08.56.10 # The apple OF doesn't seem to have problems with CF (only tried booting though) 08.56.12 # have you met this problem before? 08.56.26 # petur doesn't have an ipod 08.56.37 # amiconn: IIUC, the ipod mini only does 512 byte sectors 08.56.45 # no ipod here 08.56.47 # while I have a 5.5g ipod 08.56.51 # petur: ok... 08.56.55 # On ipod you need the correct partitioning 08.57.14 # amiconn: as in? 08.57.17 # ...plus the correct content of the firmware partition 08.58.06 # I'd use dd to copy the first few MB (mbr + whole firmware partition) to the card 08.58.30 # Then use a standard partitioning tool to delete the fat32 partition, recreate it with the correct size, and format 08.58.58 # No need to reinstall the bootloader this way if it was installed before 08.59.00 Quit goffa (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 08.59.51 # amiconn: did that, didn't work 09.00.51 # the ipod will still ask to restore via itunes 09.01.07 # weirdly, if I copy the firmware updater onto the firmware partition, the ipod will flash itself 09.01.13 # that means the firmware is ok, right? 09.01.16 Join pixelma [50] (i=pixelma@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 09.02.59 Quit Rob2222 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 09.03.20 # morning pixelma, I'm working on converting cabbiev2 to not use %m and its not as bad as I thought it might be... the %V syntax is too strict though which makes things irritating, but thats easy to fix 09.03.39 # * JdGordon isnt 100% sure there isnt a problem with stopping the scrolling though 09.05.48 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 09.06.25 # * petur runs away, back probably late at night.... 09.06.35 Quit petur ("laterz") 09.07.18 # JdGordon: too strict, how? 09.08.12 # how you have to put in values for each param... I'd like to just give it a x,y value and then it would use the rest of the viewports dimentinos for width, height. same for colours 09.08.53 # also, for height I'd like to put in something like 4L which would mean 4* line height so the font isnt fixed... 09.09.01 # that one probably wont happen 09.11.04 # another thing I've got annoyed at is image loading doesnt use the viewport x,y offests, not really major but again, something that could be changed 09.12.09 # I don't understand the last line 09.13.17 Quit Seed (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 09.13.54 # bitmaps are displayed relative to the viewport's upper left corner you have your "display image" tag in 09.14.41 # arg, yeah, thats what I meant... i need more caffeene :p yes, it works as expected 09.14.44 # * JdGordon disappears 09.18.09 # amiconn: you there? I found that with the sony cf card, the BL can read the mbr fine (all mbr info ok), but failed when mounting 09.29.01 # amiconn: ah, found it! 09.29.34 # I formatted the disk as FAT16, but export/ipodvideo.h doesn't define FAT16 support 09.29.50 # is there any reason that the iPod Video shouldn't support FAT16? 09.34.16 Join stripwax [0] (n=Miranda@87-194-34-169.bethere.co.uk) 09.34.49 # no 09.35.15 # well, apart from it being mostly useless for 99.5% of everyone 09.35.33 # well, people using cf cards (like me) can benefit a bit 09.35.43 Join bughunter2 [0] (n=Jelle@77.164.66.124) 09.35.45 # how much is the code overhead? 09.36.19 # otoh CF modders should be able to build rockbox too 09.36.42 # yeah, would be best if it can be configured easily 09.40.26 # Is there a way to replace the firmware partition with a bootloader completely (so we don't have to reply on the OF's bootloader)? 09.44.00 # what are sane default values for the fore/background colours for greyscale lcds? 09.44.12 # they arent stored in the theme at all are they? 09.44.20 # unlike 16bit lcds i mean 09.46.55 Quit stripwax ("Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org") 09.49.08 Quit [CBR]Unspoken|w ("!") 09.49.28 # default is black on white and I can't remember ever setting those. Before viewports in the wps you couldn't use other shades of grey anyways, haven't even tried with viewports yet though I like to try 09.50.29 # is it better to set the defaults then to black on white? or not allow them to be skipped? 09.52.36 # black is 0 white is 3? 09.55.06 # as far as I'm aware you still can't set anything else than black on white outside the wps, though "set foreground colour" etc. were only excluded for mono lcds in the langv2 update because it's probably doable one day... 09.55.53 # about the 0 and 3 - would have to try out which is which myself 09.57.22 Quit nuonguy ("This computer has gone to sleep") 09.58.39 Quit Shaid (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 10.00.52 Join [CBR]Unspoken|w [0] (n=cbr@212.98.160.130) 10.02.20 Join kretender [0] (n=Kaspar@215-119.77-83.cust.bluewin.ch) 10.02.33 # ok, code review question.... parse lists takes a list of types to pass in the form "ssdddg", now, ive changed it so it sets a bit in an int coresponding to each item in that string weather or not it was parsed OK... I have it so that first s would be bit (1<<0), 2nd is bit (1<<1) etc... it feels a bit backwards to me but makes everything easier... does that sound OK or should it be fixed? 10.09.06 # noone cares one way or the other? 10.23.04 Join std [0] (n=std@78.107.42.178) 10.25.41 Join desowin [0] (n=desowin@atheme/member/desowin) 10.27.12 # * wpyh busy hacking cf cards, sorry JdGordon 10.31.03 # Right now it's 10:30 am, but when you pinged me it wasn't 10.31.13 # wrong channel... 10.32.16 # sorry for noob question, i have no access to http now. does rockbox have any anti-theft abilities? 10.32.38 # sucha password at startup 10.32.41 # no 10.33.06 Join DerPapst [0] (n=DerPapst@p5B23FD2C.dip.t-dialin.net) 10.33.46 # std: what do you mean by "no access to http"? 10.34.21 # wpyh: probably 'no manual or wiki access' 10.34.33 # wpyh: only free IRC port opened for me 10.34.52 # so i can't search on rockbox's forum :( 10.35.13 # so you can only access the irc? 10.36.20 # ah, run your home ssh server on port 6667 and break out of that cage! ;-) 10.36.35 # * B4gder now goes somewhere else for OT 10.37.05 Join n1s [0] (n=nils@rockbox/developer/n1s) 10.37.09 Join PaulJam [0] (i=PaulJam_@vpn-3081.gwdg.de) 10.37.40 # B4gder: :) its only for few days 10.41.09 Quit [CBR]Unspoken|w (Connection timed out) 10.41.50 # but "no access to http" was the excuse that i didn't sought the forum for my question :] 10.41.52 # does anyone know where I can download older ipod firmware versions? 10.42.06 # question was about anti-theft system for rockbox 10.42.52 # maybe someone know this? 10.42.55 # std: what anti-theft system do you mean? 10.43.26 # wpyh: some kind of the access protection. like a password at startup 10.43.41 # wpyh: when the IPL server is back online again try http://ipodlinux.org/Apple_Updaters 10.43.51 # std: as JdGordon said, there isn't one. And I seriously doubt if that would help 10.43.53 # or use google cache 10.43.56 # std: That wouldn't help anything, because it's easy to circumvent 10.44.21 # hmm.. 10.44.30 # DerPapst: Thanks. (can't use google cache in China) 10.44.45 # And even if it weren't, a thief won't know in advance, so he will still steal it 10.45.18 # std: how does a password prevent someone from stealing the ipod? 10.45.24 # ah... then you have to wait i guess 10.45.43 # yeah 10.45.46 # * n1s is slow this early :) 10.46.32 # maybe put a sticker on it? "This ipod is password protected" :P 10.46.53 # n1s: :) but maybe an unusable device will be returned. for some reward 10.47.06 # DerPapst: but then it's the sticker working :) 10.47.22 # std: with subsequent arrest? 10.47.29 # i though that bootloader is the first code that receives control after startup 10.47.37 # anti-theft would make the thief throw it away instead of using it 10.47.40 # std: it will be sold on ebay a 'for parts' 10.47.58 # no gain for the original owner anyway 10.48.20 # std: all rockbox code on an ipod is stored on disk and is accessible through the emegency diskmode -> easy to circumvent 10.48.25 # not to mention that most concepts would be worked-around quite easily anyway 10.48.50 # unless... well, we edit the flash code 10.48.55 # n1s: the guiltly of returner has yet to be proved 10.48.58 # has anyone here ever done so? 10.49.40 # std: isn't possession of stolen goods illegal? 10.49.45 # okie, guys, you convinced me) 10.50.39 # n1s: one could say that it found the player on the street. isn't it? 10.50.45 # *he found 10.51.35 # ianal but i don't know if that matters 10.51.47 # also this is getting OT so lets stop here 10.51.58 Join DerDome [0] (n=DerDome@141.71.76.60) 11.01.22 Quit cool_walking_ (Remote closed the connection) 11.05.51 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 11.14.48 Join kennyj [0] (i=kennyj@kyogi.net) 11.17.38 Quit faemir ("Leaving") 11.18.24 Quit AndyI (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 11.21.59 Join faemir [0] (n=faemir@88-106-142-213.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) 11.23.53 Quit kennyj_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 11.36.05 Join PaulJam_ [0] (i=PaulJam_@vpn-3081.gwdg.de) 11.37.15 Join Nico_P [50] (n=nicolas@rockbox/developer/NicoP) 11.38.04 Join knittl [0] (n=knittl@193.170.135.184) 11.43.44 Join [CBR]Unspoken|w [0] (n=cbr@212.98.160.130) 11.43.49 Join CyBergRind|w [0] (n=cbr@212.98.160.130) 11.43.50 Join LinusN [0] (n=linus@rockbox/developer/LinusN) 11.44.06 Quit CyBergRind|w (Connection reset by peer) 11.46.02 Join AndyI [0] (n=pasha_in@212.14.205.32) 11.46.07 Quit DerDome ("Leaving.") 11.50.37 Join PaulJam__ [0] (i=PaulJam_@vpn-3081.gwdg.de) 12.01.04 Quit PaulJam (Connection timed out) 12.04.47 Join K4rP4D [0] (n=KrPD@unaffiliated/krpd) 12.05.03 Quit crope ("Leaving") 12.06.03 Join pixelma_ [50] (i=pixelma@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 12.06.31 Quit pixelma (Nick collision from services.) 12.06.31 Nick pixelma_ is now known as pixelma (i=pixelma@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 12.09.23 Quit PaulJam_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 12.12.57 Quit faemir ("Leaving") 12.21.45 Quit flynux (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 12.23.50 Join faemir [0] (n=faemir@88-106-142-213.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) 12.24.59 Join DerDome [0] (n=DerDome@141.71.76.61) 12.27.34 Join Seed [0] (i=ben@bzq-84-108-237-178.cablep.bezeqint.net) 12.31.26 # who the heck blurs part of a bug report screenshot coz they dont want the wps shown off yet?! 12.31.29 Nick PaulJam__ is now known as PaulJam (i=PaulJam_@vpn-3081.gwdg.de) 12.33.34 Join Thundercloud [0] (n=thunderc@resnet30.nat.lancs.ac.uk) 12.41.55 Join flynux [0] (n=flynux@2a01:38:0:0:0:0:0:1) 12.46.40 Quit desowin ("KVIrc 4.0.0 Insomnia http://www.kvirc.net/") 12.47.33 Quit Seed (Nick collision from services.) 12.47.41 Join Seed [0] (i=ben@bzq-84-108-237-178.cablep.bezeqint.net) 12.49.53 Quit AndyI (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 12.50.46 Join AndyI [0] (n=pasha_in@212.14.205.32) 12.52.19 Join inversions [0] (n=sam@cpc1-bele3-0-0-cust658.belf.cable.ntl.com) 12.54.12 # hi, i'm trying to investigate a bug with a patch (FS#7814) where the time display always disappears after some time on my H300. I have nearly no knowledge about how this low level/driver stuff works, so please bear with me if i ask something stupid. I did some experimenting and it seems as if a call to pcf50606_read(0x02) occassionally causes that register 0x10 of the PCF50606 chip gets modified.Almost everywhere else in the SVN code where pcf50606_ 12.54.12 # read* or pcf50606_write* is used for the iriver coldfire targets the fuction disable_irq_save() gets called before. So my question is: what does disable_irq_save() do and what could happen if pcf50606_read() is used without that? 12.55.02 Join Schmogel [0] (n=Miranda@p508C98E3.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 12.55.41 Quit GodEater ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") 12.56.17 # * JdGordon gets jhMikeS's attention to hopefully help PaulJam.... 12.56.45 Quit Seed (Nick collision from services.) 12.56.49 Join Seedy [0] (i=ben@bzq-84-108-237-178.cablep.bezeqint.net) 12.59.33 Join GodEater [0] (i=c2cbc962@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-77ccfa0b376069c0) 12.59.42 # PaulJam: Access to the pcf50606 on H300 needs to be protected from interrupts, because it is also accessed in interrupt context (button driver) 13.05.22 # amiconn: so using pcf50606_read() without disable_irq_save() and restore_irq() is a bad idea? 13.05.52 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 13.06.31 Join dabujo [0] (i=xx@p4FDB225E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 13.06.38 Join desowin [0] (n=desowin@atheme/member/desowin) 13.07.15 Quit JdGordon (Remote closed the connection) 13.09.54 Join JdGordon [0] (n=Miranda@c210-49-157-20.smelb1.vic.optusnet.com.au) 13.11.14 Nick fxb__ is now known as fxb (n=felixbru@h1252615.stratoserver.net) 13.19.28 Quit Seedy (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 13.20.28 Join Seed [0] (i=ben@bzq-84-108-237-178.cablep.bezeqint.net) 13.21.41 # JdGordon: btw, will you post an updated merged patch to FS#9051 ? 13.21.42 # PaulJam: Depends. If the access already happens in isr context, another disable/enable pair is useless (but it wouldn't hurt) 13.22.37 # amiconn: ok, thank you. i'll try if it fixes the issue. 13.27.17 Quit Seed (Nick collision from services.) 13.27.23 Join Seed [0] (i=ben@bzq-84-108-237-178.cablep.bezeqint.net) 13.33.45 # PaulJam: yes, eventually :p 13.34.16 # 9027 is also out of sync now, ill fix both a bit later tonight 13.36.48 Join raff [0] (i=raff@syloe.broker.freenet6.net) 13.37.10 Quit raff (Client Quit) 13.41.40 Join gregzx [0] (n=chatzill@dso100.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) 13.45.43 Quit DerPapst (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 13.53.53 Join jeffdameth [0] (n=jeff@dyndsl-085-016-237-214.ewe-ip-backbone.de) 14.05.48 Quit JdGordon (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 14.08.04 Join JdGordon [0] (i=jonno@c210-49-157-20.smelb1.vic.optusnet.com.au) 14.08.43 Join nplus [0] (n=nplus@141.25.Globcom.Net) 14.10.04 Quit jeffdamet1 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 14.19.11 Quit J ("leaving") 14.19.27 Join J [0] (n=john@cpc2-mfld9-0-0-cust297.nott.cable.ntl.com) 14.20.13 Join keenox [0] (i=keenox@89.47.115.83) 14.20.34 Quit jon-kha (Read error: 148 (No route to host)) 14.25.48 Join perrikwp [0] (i=d1a8d351@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-3cb5be5f204cf8dc) 14.28.35 Quit csc` (Remote closed the connection) 14.41.05 Part B4gder 14.43.36 # does anyone here hack cf cards too? or understand how it works? I need some help 14.45.55 # there's this pin 9 on the cf card, called the OE pin 14.46.03 # I mean, it carries the -OE signal 14.46.28 # the datasheet for my transcend card says that it needs to be grounded, in order to go to true ide mode 14.46.40 # Does anyone think it's safe to do so? 14.47.34 # I mean, is it safe to physically ground the pin? 14.54.48 # Is this Rockbox related? 14.57.44 # I think so, since I can't run RB on this CF card 15.00.21 # Are you running a new enough bootloader? 15.00.28 Quit DerDome ("Leaving.") 15.00.40 Quit Thundercloud ("Konversation terminated!") 15.01.02 # Yes, I'm running SVN 15.01.24 Join Thundercloud [0] (n=thunderc@resnet31.nat.lancs.ac.uk) 15.01.26 # Not build, bootloader. 15.01.36 # the problem seems to be that the BL itself is not loaded... the ipod just keeps on going back to the "restore with itunes" screen 15.02.09 # Then that's a problem with the apple flash loader, if you never get to the Rockbox bootloader. 15.02.12 # I got the svn repository, so it should contain the BL right? I built it myself 15.02.31 # um.. 15.02.34 # You have to build, and install, the bootloader separately 15.03.13 # yes, I did that 15.03.59 # Well, it's irrelevant, since apparently you're never getting to Rockbox code anyway, right? 15.04.09 # Yes and maybe 15.04.13 # I'm not sure 15.04.57 # Well, Rockbox certainly never says "Use iTunes to restore" 15.05.12 # I think the BL might have been loaded but somehow gets back to the flash code (is this possible?) 15.05.26 # right 15.05.54 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 15.06.26 # It's not really possible. What gives you cause to think that? 15.07.32 # Because the first time I load an Apple Firmware onto the Firmware partition, the ipod goes into the flashing mode 15.07.43 # And it flashes successfully (at least didn't give me any errors) 15.09.10 # But without installing Rockbox at all, you still get the "Use iTunes to restore" message? 15.09.17 Join LambdaCalculus37 [0] (i=44a0430f@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-1ece7e2587aa549f) 15.09.26 # I mean, every time I load an Apple Firmware, it does that. After it flashes itself, (I heard) that a flag is set in the Firmware partition, so it doesn't flash itself anymore 15.09.33 # Yes, I get that message 15.09.52 # Was thinking whether it was caused by the second partition not formatted correctly 15.10.32 # Yes, if it's not formatted correctly, the apple OS will give you that message 15.10.41 Quit inversions (Remote closed the connection) 15.11.08 # Yeah, so I was wondering whether it's caused by RB or by the apple fw 15.11.48 # If you don't install Rockbox, and it still happens, how could it be Rockbox's fault? 15.12.42 Quit dabujo (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 15.13.43 # you mean it couldn't be caused by RB's bootloader crashing or something? 15.14.21 # If Rockbox isn't installed... how could it crash? 15.14.23 Part LinusN 15.15.00 # I mean, there are two situations here 15.15.20 # wpyh: can you connect the CF to your computer? 15.15.35 # 1. Fresh installation of OF, it will flash the flash rom fine, then reboot and goes into the "restore with itunes " screen 15.15.56 # 2. Patch the FW partition with the BL then reboot and it goes into the "restore with itunes" screen 15.16.04 # wpyh: And thus, in 1), you know the Rockbox bootloader had nothing to do with it. 15.16.19 # JdGordon: Not right now. But.. would a CF card reader be fine? 15.16.19 # does anybody know a good (preferably free) usb monitoring tool? 15.16.24 # Since the in-flash bootloader always happens before Rockbox's bootloader, if it fails in 1), it's going to fail in 2) 15.16.31 # I can probably borrow it from someone 15.16.49 Quit jodedor ("QUIT") 15.16.55 # Llorean: that's one possibility, yes 15.17.24 Join jodedor [0] (n=vain@adsl-75-45-221-114.dsl.sfldmi.sbcglobal.net) 15.17.24 # I don't see how you could reasonable expect the Apple bootloader to un-fail once Rockbox is installed. 15.18.54 # wpyh: if you can get the CF adaptor, im pretty sure you can force ipodpatcher to install the bootloader onto it without a ipod actually connected... but if the OF flash loader wont play nice then your up shit creek... 15.19.37 # JdGordon: well, I can now actually install the BL already 15.19.53 # I was thinking whether this card needs to be forced into True IDE mode for it to work 15.20.18 # Llorean: ok, so it seems the problem is with the HW 15.20.29 # how do you know its installed? iirc ipodpatcher will say it worked even if it hasnt because of certain error 15.20.31 # sa 15.20.52 # Well, I ran ipodpatcher and it says it worked :p 15.21.08 # And if I run it with '-d' then it will delete the BL 15.22.02 # anyone interested in rockbox for greyscale ipods and want to commit FS#5282? 15.24.07 Nick JdGordon is now known as JdGordon|zzz (i=jonno@rockbox/developer/JdGordon) 15.25.28 # amiconn: using disable_irq_save() before and restore_irq() after the pcf50606_read() solved the issue with the disappearing clock for me. I was wondering if you could post a comment to FS#7814 pointing out the issues if you have time. I have trouble formulating a comment and you have much greater knowledge of this stuff, so you can explain it better. 15.25.56 # JdGordon: I have a 4G greyscale iPod, but it has a broken battery connector; thus I'd like to test it but can't. 15.27.54 Quit nplus (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 15.31.05 Join csc` [0] (n=csc@archlinux/user/csc) 15.33.23 Quit csc` (Remote closed the connection) 15.36.20 Join esperegu [0] (n=estasmi@145.116.11.111) 15.36.34 # any current players that run rockbox? 15.36.58 Join csc` [0] (n=csc@archlinux/user/csc) 15.37.03 # Just what's listed on the front page at http://www.rockbox.org 15.37.47 # LambdaCalculus37: that are old models right? 15.38.35 # Yep. 15.39.15 # Try eBay if you're looking for a Rockbox-compatible player. 15.44.29 Quit csc` ("As a precautionary measure for the preservation of hamsters, do NOT put them in the microwave...*poof*") 15.53.44 # the gigabeat F touchpad changes frustrate me a bit 15.54.26 # a lot of time I select the wrong item because it also senses "down" just before "select" 15.55.20 # markun: Are you talking about the changes jhMikeS made in r17656? 15.55.33 # yes 15.55.37 Quit keenox () 15.55.38 # markun: He made it optional 15.55.48 # Update to a newer build, and it'll default back to the old way, with the sensitive way as an option. 15.55.51 # then I need to update :) 15.56.06 # I already made the very same complaint. I *think* some touchpads are just more sensitive than others. 15.58.38 # Llorean: Has anyone else mentioned this? 16.02.49 # Mentioned what? 16.03.15 # There were bug reports of Rockbox being entirely unusable once the sensitive mode was the default. 16.03.23 # People were having troubles just being able to navigate. 16.05.13 # You may be right about some touchpads being more sensitive than others, though. But it's not *the* answer, of course. :) 16.05.41 Quit krazykit (Remote closed the connection) 16.05.46 Join krazykit [0] (n=kkit@adsl-76-240-219-159.dsl.ipltin.sbcglobal.net) 16.18.58 Join nplus [0] (n=nplus@141.25.Globcom.Net) 16.23.19 Join lolmaus [0] (i=lolmaus@83.167.114.28) 16.25.10 Quit Ragnor (Nick collision from services.) 16.25.20 Join Ragnor [0] (n=Ragnor@dslb-084-060-177-200.pools.arcor-ip.net) 16.36.14 # guys 16.36.33 # I've got a question here: why do we need to reboot after initializing the database? 16.41.24 Quit K4rP4D ("Leaving") 16.41.28 Join Mathiasdm [0] (n=Mathias@vpnh024.ugent.be) 16.44.00 # wpyh: Because there's no malloc. 16.45.09 # so we can only allocate memory at bootup? 16.45.22 # Basically, yes. 16.45.34 Join mcuelenaere [0] (n=mcuelena@rockbox/developer/mcuelenaere) 16.46.22 # (for the logs): I'll be unavailabe from 6/6 to 20/6 due to exams 16.46.24 # ok, thanks 16.46.49 # * wpyh admires mcuelenaere 16.47.00 # wpyh: Here's some more info: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/WhyNoMalloc 16.47.19 # mcuelenaere: Good luck on your exams. :) 16.47.22 # wpyh: :) are you the rockbox-aholic guy? 16.47.30 # LambdaCalculus37: thanks 16.47.50 # thanks 16.47.52 # yes... 16.48.15 # :) I know what's it like 16.48.47 # * wpyh whispers to mcuelenaere: ssh, Llorean is here 16.49.18 # ah yes, on-topic.. well then, I'm off 16.49.23 Quit mcuelenaere (Client Quit) 16.50.17 Join toffe82 [0] (n=chatzill@h-74-0-180-178.snvacaid.covad.net) 16.57.42 Join Horscht [0] (n=Horscht@xbmc/user/horscht) 17.02.21 Quit gregzx ("ChatZilla 0.9.82.1 [Firefox 2.0.0.14/2008040413]") 17.05.56 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 17.07.10 Quit Thundercloud (Remote closed the connection) 17.07.52 Join Thundercloud [0] (n=thunderc@resnet01.nat.lancs.ac.uk) 17.09.06 Join csc` [0] (n=csc@archlinux/user/csc) 17.09.18 Join gregzx [0] (n=chatzill@dso100.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) 17.10.14 # Hub-related USB bus resets are not triggered by the ATA or SD driver. 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Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org") 17.47.39 Join Schmogel [0] (n=Miranda@p508C98E3.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 17.49.29 Join borges|afk [0] (n=bruges@brln-4d0c2d77.pool.mediaWays.net) 17.49.59 Nick borges|afk is now known as borges (n=bruges@brln-4d0c2d77.pool.mediaWays.net) 17.52.59 # * dionoea just bough a sansa e260. firmware version is 01.01.11E 17.53.04 # does that mean that i'm lucky? 17.53.23 # (I was using mtp-detect and saw a string mentioning portalplayer ... which i wasn't really expecting) 17.53.32 # dionea: Very lucky. :) 17.53.41 # Rockbox that baby! 17.53.49 # Yay! 17.54.01 # (although I bough it to test mtp, so it won't be rockbox only) 17.54.58 Quit csc` (Remote closed the connection) 17.55.07 # dionoea: What else did mtp-detect reveal? 17.55.21 # (and the info screen on the device has a portalplayer logo) 17.55.35 # LambdaCalculus37: Nothing really intersting :) 17.55.55 # Other than the supported audio formats in the OF 17.56.03 # whiwh is what I was looking for in the 1st place 17.59.36 # Most DAPs play so few audio formats in their default firmwares. 18.00.03 # Which is bad for those of us who prefer free formats like Vorbis and FLAC... :) 18.00.15 # exactly :) 18.00.33 Join joeblob [0] (i=fook@joo.got.haxored.net) 18.00.52 # Most of my music is in vorbis ... and this one only does wma, mp3 and wav 18.00.55 Join thegeek_ [0] (i=thegeek@s220b.studby.ntnu.no) 18.01.35 # dionoea: Are you going to try to see some more about how MTP communicates with DAPs? There was a little talk yesterday about perhaps working on an MTP stack; check the logs. 18.02.03 # No, I'm mentoring a student implementing MTP support in VLC ... and I didn't have any MTP device :) 18.02.13 # Ahh. 18.02.25 # So it's MTP support on the other end ... and no low level stuff since libmtp already does that for us. 18.04.37 # Ahh, now I see what you're talking about: http://www.rockbox.org/irc/log-20080604#14:14:45 18.04.48 # I missed that little bit on the logs yesterday... ;P 18.05.19 # ;) 18.06.25 # what does the "installer" option in configure mean? (as opposed to normal firmware and bootloader) 18.06.47 # That option doesn't exist in ipod or archos recorder builds. 18.08.29 # Hmm, good question. Never saw the "installer" option, or I didn't pay attention to it. :) 18.08.29 Join herrwaldo [0] (n=waldo@ip-81-11-210-237.dsl.scarlet.be) 18.08.54 # make install "installs" a simulator build if you've compiles a sim 18.09.36 # that's not the same as the "installer" option in tools/configure is it? 18.09.48 # * DerPapst not sure and shuts up 18.09.55 # I know about "make install"; but not about this "installer" option. 18.10.09 # * LambdaCalculus37 usually runs "make && make install" 18.11.48 # Yay! I've got rockbox runing. That was one unexpected surprise. 18.12.11 # Is USB http://www.rockbox.org/irc/log-20080604#14:14:45 18.12.14 # http://www.rockbox.org/irc/log-20080604#14:14:45 18.12.17 # oops 18.12.27 # stupid touch pad. 18.12.37 # :P 18.12.46 # So I was going to ask: Is USB support safe on the e200s ? 18.12.59 # (I had some corruption issues on the iPod Video 30G) 18.13.00 # did you enable it? 18.13.05 # Nope 18.13.18 # I enabled USB on my iPod and c200. No problems here. 18.14.16 # Run ../tools/configure, and edit the Makefile; at the EXTRA_DEFINES line, add -DUSE_ROCKBOX_USB. 18.14.17 Join domonoky [0] (n=Domonoky@rockbox/developer/domonoky) 18.14.20 # Then save and make. 18.14.21 Part domonoky 18.14.34 # Btw, the new default theme looks good. Congrats to whoever made it. 18.14.38 # * LambdaCalculus37 knows that he just gave instructions for USB 1.1 speed 18.15.53 # isn't hi speed mode stable enough to use? 18.15.59 # *high 18.16.44 # Ask gevaerts. 18.16.50 # gevaerts: ping! 18.17.42 Join domonoky1 [0] (n=Domonoky@e179222134.adsl.alicedsl.de) 18.17.57 Nick Seedy is now known as Seed (i=ben@bzq-84-108-237-178.cablep.bezeqint.net) 18.18.13 # dionoea: pong 18.19.03 # Is High Speed USB reliable on Sansa e200? 18.19.31 # * dionoea just got a new one ... and was lucky enough to have it be one of the old versions. 18.19.36 Join Buschel [0] (n=abc@p54A3F22B.dip.t-dialin.net) 18.19.53 # Good question... 18.20.13 # ;) 18.20.20 Join morghanphoenix [0] (n=phoenix@97-113-102-3.tukw.qwest.net) 18.21.00 Quit Horscht ("IRC is just multiplayer notepad") 18.21.04 # * gevaerts sidesteps the question 18.21.22 # I'll give it a try then ;) 18.21.24 # USB is pretty reliable if you don't have hubs in between (with hubs it depends) 18.21.30 # am I reading this right? Rockbox scans the drive for tagged files rather than using the ipod database thing right? So could I just drop my files onto the hard drive and force a scan of the drive rather than do an ipod update? 18.21.35 # The sansa ata/flash driver however... 18.22.12 # Yes, we don't read the iPod database at all. As long as your files are tagged properly, they'll show up in the Rockbox database. 18.22.37 # And you can simply just copy files onto your iPod in the style of an external hard drive. 18.22.49 # Nice, copy only, I can get rid of all those kpod files and make a directory that actually makes a bit of sense :) 18.22.54 # gevaerts: other question, can rockbox expose the microSD card's content instead of the internal flash through USB? 18.23.34 # but it doesn't support the id3v2 in-tag jpeg album art does it? 18.23.51 # If you want (and if you don't mind copying all of the music over again ;)), you can delete the iPod_Control folder from your iPod, then copy all of your music into a new folder structure of your choice. 18.23.53 # dionoea: yes. Now the interesting bit : on my c250 the microSD has guaranteed data corruption after copying a few hundred MB over USB. Internal is much better 18.24.20 # morghanphoenix: No, Rockbox only supports album art in bitmap format. 18.24.27 # dionoea: However, c200 and e200 seem to behave differently here, so I don't know what your experiences will be 18.24.40 # See this page: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/AlbumArt 18.24.55 # dionoea: I saw you mentionned corruption issues on ipod earlier. What sort of corruption ? 18.24.55 # Yeah, the ipod dbase is all mp3 reencodes of ogg files, I need to redo all the files anyways. 18.25.21 # morghanphoenix: Bad idea, going lossy to lossy like that. :) 18.25.37 # Why not rip as FLAC and then you can transcode those to MP3? 18.25.47 # Lossless to lossy is a better idea, IMHO. 18.25.48 # yeah, all the discs are long gone, and the ipod needed mp3. 18.25.50 # gevaerts: the FAT partition was all messed up because of illegal filenames ... which must have been due to corruption 18.25.58 # I don't know if it was using a recent rockbox build though 18.26.03 Join Horscht [0] (n=Horscht@xbmc/user/horscht) 18.26.27 # morghanphoenix: Not anymore, it doesn't. ;) 18.27.08 # Then again, I haven't touched my iPod's OF in... jeeze, I don't know how long! 18.27.13 # don't happen to know where all those pictures from the ipod got dumped do you. I no longer have a windows computer to reset the ipod with and there are lots of pictures on there. 18.27.28 # What model? 18.27.29 # dionoea: hm. I wouldn't expect that sort of corruption. 18.27.51 # 5 or 5.5 18.28.36 # Search through the iPod_Control folder on the root of the hard drive for any picture files, then move them all into a separate folder on your iPod (e.g. Pictures). 18.28.49 # there's a photos folder, but it only has a db file and a folder for thumbs with a few .ithumb files in it 18.28.52 # dionoea: We had that with experimental patches, but those versions didn't appear in svn, and that was long before high speed support 18.29.31 # Hum, maybe it was an old weird version of rockbox runing :) (not with any usb patches though) 18.30.02 # Where is the microSD exported? Doesn't looks like /dev/sdb2 is the microSD 18.30.23 # Or is that default disabled in the code due to the corruption issues? 18.30.39 # No. That's the firmware partition. microSD should be /dev/sdc 18.30.52 # hum ... doesn't show here 18.31.02 # * gevaerts guesses. gentoo or ubuntu ? 18.31.06 # Does it need a special kernel option to have 2 devices on the same usb connection 18.31.11 # debian but custom kernel 18.31.26 # what about all the db and ithumb files? they're pretty damn big 18.32.00 Join midkay_ [0] (n=midkay@216-160-120-243.tukw.qwest.net) 18.32.35 # dionoea: You need either CONFIG_SCSI_MULTI_LUN=y, or (but I'm not sure about this one) set the max_luns parameter for scsi_mod to a sane value 18.32.56 # What does cat /sys/module/scsi_mod/parameters/max_luns give you ? 18.33.07 # 1 18.33.12 # should I try setting it at 2 ? 18.33.34 # Yes (or higher) 18.34.37 # Looks like it worked. 18.34.38 # Thanks 18.34.52 Quit amiconn (Nick collision from services.) 18.34.59 Join amiconn [50] (n=jens@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 18.35.22 # You'll need the same thing if you ever want to use a multi-card reader 18.36.03 # I'll just enable the SCSI_MULTI_LUN option in my kernel 18.36.42 # modules.conf (or wherever that is these days) can also help 18.37.46 # I have scsi builtin my kernel ... so I don't know if that would work. Maybe as a kernel option in grub. 18.38.14 # maybe 18.39.07 # Does USB charging work ok on e200 in rockbox? 18.41.23 Join domonoky [0] (n=Domonoky@rockbox/developer/domonoky) 18.42.49 # * gevaerts is no charging specialist 18.43.32 # I don't think so. It might charge a bit, but it won't charge fully and it will be slow (unless I'm not following developments properly) 18.44.19 # So that means that you need to switch to OF to charge? 18.44.29 # Best thing to do for now. 18.44.52 Quit morghanphoenix ("Leaving") 18.48.06 Join pondlife [50] (n=Steve@rockbox/developer/pondlife) 18.48.54 # PaulJam: Did I update http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/7814 suitably? 18.49.19 # I note that the pcf50605 RTC code isn't disabling IRQs though. 18.50.33 Quit DaCapn () 18.51.31 Quit midkay (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 18.51.52 Quit tvelocity (Remote closed the connection) 18.55.29 # pondlife: in your patch could you check the rtc_check_alarm_flag() function? it seems to return before setting the old irq level. and for h300 you define HAVE_RTC_ALARM twice. but apart from that i think i basically did the same changes. 18.56.21 Join tvelocity [0] (n=tony@79.131.100.138) 18.56.24 Join bertrik [0] (n=bertrik@206-015-045-062.dynamic.caiway.nl) 18.57.05 # Thanks, just fixing... 18.57.33 Quit domonoky1 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 18.58.34 Join miepchen^schlaf [0] (n=miepchen@p54BF7BCC.dip.t-dialin.net) 19.03.00 # pondlife: another thing: you sometimes use restore_irq() and sometimes set_irq_level() . was that intended? 19.03.22 # No... ;) 19.04.41 Quit vort3x (Connection reset by peer) 19.04.58 Join vort3x [0] (n=vortex@unaffiliated/dfa001) 19.05.35 # disable_irq_save()/restore_irq() is preferred, I'd think? 19.05.58 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 19.07.26 # pondlife: i don't know. 19.09.45 # OK, updated patch is there. 19.10.26 # The const police are itching to raid rtc_write_datetime(), but some targets update the buffer in place :/ 19.16.13 Join BigBambi [0] (n=Alex@rockbox/staff/BigBambi) 19.20.46 Join Daishi [0] (n=daishi@ool-18be2452.dyn.optonline.net) 19.21.32 # pondlife: btw, can't check if the alarm still works with these changes because i still use the official bootloader, so could you test that when you have access to yout h300 again? 19.21.50 # Yes, I guess so. 19.21.50 Join kretender [0] (n=Kaspar@215-119.77-83.cust.bluewin.ch) 19.22.06 # I'm still running an RTC alarm patched bootloader from a year ago. 19.22.18 # I guess that will work.. 19.24.53 # pondlife: Why should the pcf50605 rtc code disable interrupts? 19.25.17 # I don't know if it should. 19.25.24 # It is only necessary if the pcf5060x is accessed from within isr context as well 19.25.37 # That happens on H300 (and X5 and M5), but not on ipods 19.25.47 # The pcf50605 code isn't used for keys at all then? 19.26.19 # No, the buttons are hooked up very different in ipods and other pp targets 19.26.53 # I was more thinking of a pcf5060x, not any particular target. 19.27.48 # No target having pcf50605 uses it for button reading 19.28.05 Join saratoga [0] (n=9803c6dd@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-6bba13f83dafb17e) 19.28.57 # In fact it can't, because the 50605 has no adc, unlike the 50606 19.29.09 # That's a good reason. 19.29.14 Quit fpletz (Remote closed the connection) 19.29.24 Join fpletz [0] (n=fpletz@franz-pletz.org) 19.30.24 # (except batvolt) 19.36.51 Join tvelocity_ [0] (n=tony@athedsl-4405390.home.otenet.gr) 19.41.33 # do MACs on coldfire's EMAC unit operate at 32x32=64 precision or something else? 19.43.07 # 32x32+48->48 19.43.10 # See coldfire manual 19.43.39 # ah that makes more sense 19.44.14 Quit EspeonEefi ("さよなら") 19.44.28 Join wpyh [0] (n=william@th245062.ip.tsinghua.edu.cn) 19.47.21 Quit pondlife ("Leaving.") 19.48.08 Join crash91 [0] (n=crash@41.232.206.14) 19.49.00 Nick fxb__ is now known as fxb (n=felixbru@h1252615.stratoserver.net) 19.50.35 Join gevaerts_ [0] (n=fg@195-144-092-165.dyn.adsl.xs4all.be) 19.50.51 Quit gevaerts (Nick collision from services.) 19.50.56 Nick gevaerts_ is now known as gevaerts (n=fg@195-144-092-165.dyn.adsl.xs4all.be) 19.51.15 Quit tvelocity (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 19.56.43 Join bluebrother [0] (n=dom@rockbox/staff/bluebrother) 19.57.28 Quit tvelocity_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 19.58.02 Join tvelocity_ [0] (n=tony@85.72.142.61) 19.59.33 Join mf0102 [0] (n=michi@85.127.182.43) 20.00.12 Join XavierGr [0] (n=xavier@rockbox/staff/XavierGr) 20.11.05 Join webguest64 [0] (n=428db23b@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-ac2049f067ce3b36) 20.13.09 # I cannot play music on my ipod using rockbox, it shows the song playing but no sound, it says missing codec/ no rockbox directory : installation incomplete 20.13.46 # it says what it sees 20.14.02 # that means you probably didn't install Rockbox correctly 20.14.22 # did you build it yourself or download a binary? 20.14.35 # I just downloaded the program 20.14.44 # webguest64: make sure you have a ".rockbox" dir in the root of your player .. 20.14.50 # webguest64: which program? 20.15.05 # i think i know where i went wrong 20.15.13 # and missing coded means that you have not a build properly extracted to the player, only the binary 20.15.17 # *codec 20.15.26 # i copied the files from .rockbox not the file 20.15.31 # eh? 20.15.43 # You should extract the zip file directly to your player 20.16.06 # * bluebrother points to http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/RockboxUtility 20.16.09 # So that, as domonoky said, you end up with a .rockbox directory at the highest (root) level 20.16.35 # and Rockbox is not a program. It's a firmware ... 20.16.42 # along with "notes" "calender" ect 20.16.47 # wpyh: regarding your ipod scrollwhell issue. you may change "if (status & 0x40000000)" to "if ((btn==BUTTON_NONE) && (status & 0x40000000))" in firmware/target/arm/ipod/button-clickwheel.c, function ipod_4g_button_read() 20.16.48 # Note the full stop in front - it is important 20.17.10 # use Rockbox Utility -- it's much easier. 20.17.11 # webguest64: I still don't know what you did - make life easy for you and us and use rbutil as bluebrother said 20.17.13 # Buschel: I'll make note of that 20.17.35 # thanks 20.17.44 # wpyh: this should avoid scrollwheel activity while button presses 20.17.53 # Oh 20.18.09 # Actually I found that the scrollwheel already works 20.18.32 # I mean, it works as expected 20.18.46 # hmm. Do we intend to provide 64bit binaries of sansapatcher again? 20.19.03 # I would imagine ideally so 20.19.09 # I tried this: 1) hold down the play button, while 2) scrolling up and down 20.19.14 # along with 64bit rbutil 20.19.16 # the result: RB powers down 20.19.17 # I see no reason not to. 20.19.21 # just needs someone to build it :) 20.19.25 # BigBambi: would be nice too. 20.19.39 # we are also missing a OS X build of current rbutil :( 20.19.54 # yes, not so easy to sort that 20.20.45 # Buschel: so my click wheel problems must be related to something else (don't know what, yet) 20.20.51 # We need an OS X-using kind soul to provide that for us. 20.21.21 # btw, who is the webmaster (the one who manages the website and wiki) around here? 20.21.36 # I think the wiki could be improved somewhat 20.21.42 # wpyh: Bagder_ , LinusN and Zagor are the head honchos 20.21.55 # wpyh: ok, if you've still have suggestions about some issue in the scrollwhell driver -> ask :) 20.22.01 # ok, thanks 20.22.05 # Buschel: ok :) 20.22.22 # for example, http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/RockboxUtility redirects to http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/RockboxUtility 20.22.22 # * bluebrother remembers his suggestion regarding diffstat and stylesheets for the website 20.22.35 # wpyh: then change it - it is a wiki.... 20.22.45 # it would be better if it behaves like Wikipedia 20.22.48 # ignore me 20.22.51 # That is normal 20.22.59 # it is just a shortcut for typing 20.23.06 # wpyh: well, it's at least nice we have this shortcut using /wiki/ 20.23.41 # this issue has been talked about earlier. Unfortunately it doesn't seem to be easily possible to make the URLs nicer 20.23.46 # yes, but using mediawiki I can make the pages appear as /wiki/Article, and doesn't change the address bar contents to /wiki/index.php?Article 20.23.55 Join EspeonEefi [0] (i=espeonee@30-7-18.wireless.csail.mit.edu) 20.24.01 # oh... 20.24.16 # but this isn't mediawiki ;-) 20.24.38 # the pros and cons of different wiki software has also been discussed IIRC 20.24.46 # check out the logs to be sure... 20.24.53 # ok 20.25.07 # I'm not suggesting we change to a different wiki software though :) 20.25.21 Quit Daishi (Remote closed the connection) 20.25.38 # if you figure how to make the links nicer please tell ;) 20.25.59 # well, I've only set up mediawiki before :p 20.29.39 Join stoffel [0] (n=sfr@p57B4FDAF.dip.t-dialin.net) 20.32.03 # ok I have it working, thanks much. But another question, I just started computer programming using C++, is there a way to make a C++ program for rockbox? 20.32.15 # great :) 20.32.18 Quit Lear ("ChatZilla 0.9.82.1 [Firefox 3.0/2008052906]") 20.32.22 # No, only plain C. 20.32.24 # I think C++ is not supported, but the devs can answer that 20.32.32 # * wpyh is slow on keyboards... 20.32.45 # RButil is in C++. 20.32.53 # * LambdaCalculus37 looks to bluebrother for the answer 20.33.13 # But Rockbox itself is plain C with some assembler for platform-specific bits. 20.33.21 # rbutil is c++ using Qt4 20.33.28 # I think RBUtil is in C++ purely because of the Qt dependency 20.33.49 # well, theoretically you could write plugins in c++. But there's no stdlib available, so ... 20.33.58 # I am using Dev C++ as a compiler, can i use that at all 20.34.03 # wpyh: that's a bit of a chicken and egg reasoning 20.34.20 # gevaerts: uh... no? 20.34.33 # webguest64: you can use devc++ to build c++ programs. You can't use any host compiler to build binaries to run on a Rockboxed device 20.34.34 # sorry i have no clue , just checking 20.34.53 # webguest64: Windows or Linux? 20.35.00 # webguest64: if you know c++, I think you know c 20.35.05 # wpyh: there's another reason: the "original" rbutil was based on wxwidgets and its original author, Cassandra, choose c++ for it. 20.35.21 # wpyh: you're aware that c++ is not just only a superset of c? 20.35.30 # wpyh: (not that I know about it...). As far as I know RBUtil follows a "standard" c++/qt design. If it were "just for qt", you could do a c-style thing with some bindings 20.35.30 # LambdaCalculus37: I think devc++ is windows only 20.35.40 # bluebrother: oh, I thought it was because it used Qt 20.36.00 # no we ported it to Qt later. 20.36.00 # webguest64: Some pages for you: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/DevelopmentGuide and http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/CrossCompiler 20.36.08 # well, I heard that before, but I think C++ is more complex than C, so you can take your C++ knowledge, shape it a bit, and then start writing C code 20.36.08 # :D 20.36.10 # rbutil was c++ before it used Qt.. :-) 20.36.21 # oh.. 20.36.25 # Also http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/HowToCompile 20.36.33 # * bluebrother notices domonoky being slow today ;-) 20.36.35 # btw I've never used RBUtil :p 20.36.49 # wpyh: then you should! Go! Now! ;-) 20.36.54 # * domonoky is slow, but coded on both versions of rbutil :-) 20.37.02 # hehe 20.37.14 # * bluebrother takes the blame for killing rbutil wx 20.37.25 # bluebrother: I was a bit afraid it would mess up with my setup 20.37.37 # RBUtil is GUI-only, right? 20.37.49 # yes. But there's a cli interface patch in the tracker 20.37.57 # wpyh: i started a cli version of rbutil, its in the tracker... 20.38.04 # too slow again.. :-/ 20.38.25 # we're currently doing some code cleanup ... eventually we can have two versions rather easily 20.38.33 # (or at least I hope so ;-) 20.38.36 # ok 20.38.36 # * LambdaCalculus37 gives domonoky some coffee for caffeine 20.38.47 # so is it a library/interface design? 20.38.59 # not yet. 20.39.00 Quit BigBambi (Remote closed the connection) 20.39.11 # ok, but a CLI is nice :) 20.39.23 # * wpyh never gets sudo/su with GUI right 20.39.43 Join BigBambi [0] (n=Alex@rockbox/staff/BigBambi) 20.39.49 # need to adjust xhost? 20.40.06 # xhost? 20.40.06 Quit BigBambi (Remote closed the connection) 20.40.21 # * wpyh wonders what happened to BigBambi (or his computer) 20.40.25 # wpyh: feel free to improve the cli patch, its probably a bit outdated... and i dont have enough time to work on it.. 20.40.48 # domonoky: I probably don't have enough time either, but I'll take a look 20.41.28 # wpyh: beware that I'm currently rewriting the bootloader installation stuff. Things will change quite a bit 20.41.59 # I'll just take a look, won't change anything there 20.42.06 # I've got a lot in my TODO anyway :p 20.42.15 # * bluebrother wouldn't mind someone updating the patch 20.42.47 Quit toffe82 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 20.44.47 # by the way, I'm still searching for a compatible cf card for my ipod video 5.5g 20.44.58 # has anyone here successfully done such a mod? 20.45.45 # you're aware there's a wiki page about CF mods? 20.46.36 # yes, but I didn't find a compatibility list for the 5.5gen ipod 20.46.47 # it only talks about the cf card adapter 20.48.14 Join pixelma [50] (i=pixelma@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 20.50.13 Join BigBambi [0] (n=Alex@rockbox/staff/BigBambi) 20.50.14 Join BigBambi_ [0] (n=Alex@rockbox/staff/BigBambi) 20.50.34 # domonoky: I figures that designer added some weird html for the longer labels -- but it also works if you use only tags. 20.51.05 # I'm going to change that (it also makes those labels use the default font size which is a bit bigger than currently used) 20.51.24 # jup change it, it got probably in by accident.. 20.51.53 # I think it got added by using the "edit rich text" menu. I believe it was me who did that ... 20.52.53 Join tvelocity [0] (n=tony@athedsl-121769.home.otenet.gr) 20.55.50 Quit BigBambi_ ("Please insert girder") 21.06.02 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 21.06.25 Quit webguest64 ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)") 21.07.18 Quit tvelocity_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 21.14.23 Join simonrvn_ [0] (i=simon@unaffiliated/simonrvn) 21.14.44 # I added some card information on the CFModGuide page. 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And do you promise not to spam? ;) 22.37.41 # i wanted to add some pics of the x20 pcb 22.37.49 Join shotofadds [0] (n=rob@rockbox/developer/shotofadds) 22.37.51 # i'll not spam 22.37.54 Quit shotofadds (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 22.38.52 # i think i'll add the pics tomorrow 'cause it's pretty late now 22.39.39 # are you in charge of the wk 22.39.44 # wiki pages? 22.41.27 # not really, but I can add you to the list of people with "write access". Speaking of which you should now be able to edit pages 22.41.38 # thanks 22.41.47 # i just checked and it works 22.42.42 # can i add the pics directly to the wiki page or i can use only links? 22.43.27 # i must go 22.43.30 # bye bye 22.43.37 Quit keenox () 22.44.56 # that was quick... 22.47.17 Quit SUSaiyan` (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 22.49.30 Join linuxstb [0] (n=linuxstb@rockbox/developer/linuxstb) 23.04.19 Quit Mathiasdm ("Yuuw!") 23.06.07 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 23.10.27 Quit Buschel () 23.16.06 Join gregzx_ [0] (n=chatzill@dsk109.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) 23.16.08 # Buschel: yeah I want to look at mp3 23.16.20 # i read through the spec and the mad source code 23.16.29 # going to try some improvised profiling tonight 23.16.47 # seems to me the issue is probably the excessive use of 64 bit ints 23.17.16 Quit gregzx (Nick collision from services.) 23.17.18 Nick gregzx_ is now known as gregzx (n=chatzill@dsk109.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) 23.17.59 Quit esperegu_ ("esperanto: http://startu.net http://www.kurso.com.br") 23.21.08 Quit mf0102 (Remote closed the connection) 23.21.47 # anyway i need to go out for a while, probably have questions for you later 23.25.45 Quit bluebrother ("leaving") 23.27.42 # Are the sansa and the ipod connectors the same? 23.27.48 Join ompaul [0] (n=ompaul@gnewsense/friend/ompaul) 23.28.28 # (the 2 small dents on the side of the ipod one are a bit small than the sansas... but otherwise they look really similar) 23.29.08 # dionoea, they pinout is different, so you shouldn't plug one into the other 23.29.09 Join gregzx_ [0] (n=chatzill@dry94.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) 23.29.12 Quit gregzx_ (Client Quit) 23.29.36 # ah ok, that's what I wanted to check before trying it out :) 23.31.43 Join enginerd [0] (n=407c962a@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-567e4ce75c469c35) 23.33.11 Quit enginerd (Client Quit) 23.33.13 # also something I noticed when using the sansa with rockbox (not sure if it does it too with the OF): when you use a key it creates some noise in the headphones. could be some kind of interference in the circuit I guess. 23.34.43 Quit Sakui ("Lost terminal") 23.38.10 Quit Schmogel (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 23.46.25 Quit gregzx (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))