--- Log for 08.06.108 Server: zelazny.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 6 days and 18 hours ago 00.01.07 Join fyre^OS [0] (n=fyre@cpe-68-173-163-56.nyc.res.rr.com) 00.02.07 Quit fyrestorm (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 00.05.37 Join PaulJam_ [0] (i=PaulJam_@vpn-3008.gwdg.de) 00.09.33 Quit PaulJam (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 00.10.23 Quit moos ("Rockbox rules the DAP world") 00.10.40 Join webguest34 [0] (n=bd9ccc55@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-293a8c355e5e20ab) 00.10.56 Quit bertrik ("bye") 00.11.55 Quit webguest34 (Client Quit) 00.16.56 Join shot0fadds [0] (n=rob@rockbox/developer/shotofadds) 00.21.34 Quit davina (Remote closed the connection) 00.22.40 Nick drf|away is now known as drfsupercenter (i=your_mom@d14-69-192-60.try.wideopenwest.com) 00.26.45 Join m0f0x [0] (n=m0f0x@189-47-20-100.dsl.telesp.net.br) 00.30.29 Quit m0f0x (Client Quit) 00.33.40 Quit shotofadds (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00.37.59 Join domonoky [0] (n=Domonoky@rockbox/developer/domonoky) 00.39.27 Nick shot0fadds is now known as shotofadds (n=rob@rockbox/developer/shotofadds) 00.45.06 Quit nicktastic (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 00.49.53 Quit gregzx (Connection timed out) 00.50.41 Join shot0fadds [0] (n=rob@rockbox/developer/shotofadds) 00.59.44 Quit ompaul (Client Quit) 01.01.05 Join gregzx [0] (n=chatzill@drj57.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) 01.07.19 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 01.08.51 Quit shotofadds (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 01.16.16 Nick drfsupercenter is now known as drf|away (i=your_mom@d14-69-192-60.try.wideopenwest.com) 01.18.30 Quit gregzx ("ChatZilla 0.9.82.1 [Firefox 2.0.0.14/2008040413]") 01.19.16 Quit fyre^OS (Client Quit) 01.19.43 Join fyrestorm [0] (n=fyre@cpe-68-173-163-56.nyc.res.rr.com) 01.20.30 Quit homielowe () 01.21.46 Quit domonoky (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 01.22.16 Quit fyrestorm (Client Quit) 01.22.48 Quit ender` (" My force-field generators will be located inside the shield they generate. -- Evil Overlord List #246") 01.23.28 Quit shot0fadds ("Leaving") 01.28.14 Quit faemir ("Leaving") 01.33.43 Nick drf|away is now known as drfsupercenter (i=your_mom@d14-69-192-60.try.wideopenwest.com) 01.41.46 Join Buschel_ [0] (n=AndreeBu@p54A3D521.dip.t-dialin.net) 01.41.46 Quit Buschel (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 01.46.42 Quit mf0102 ("Ex-Chat") 01.51.11 Join Buschel [0] (n=AndreeBu@p54A3D521.dip.t-dialin.net) 01.56.51 Quit dabujo (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 02.02.28 Quit Buschel_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 02.03.30 Join stooo [0] (n=sto@y066163.dynamic.ppp.asahi-net.or.jp) 02.05.54 Join csc` [0] (n=csc@archlinux/user/csc) 02.16.57 Quit stooo ("Leaving.") 02.27.53 Join petur [50] (n=petur@rockbox/developer/petur) 02.28.36 Join nuonguy [0] (n=john@c-24-6-175-26.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) 02.33.38 # * Buschel is really helpless about some asm :/ 02.34.01 # i don't know what's going wrong 02.46.11 Join wpyh [0] (n=william@th245062.ip.tsinghua.edu.cn) 02.47.03 Part toffe82 02.50.44 Quit PaulJam_ (".") 02.59.35 Quit Nico_P (Remote closed the connection) 03.00.30 Quit petur ("Zzzzz") 03.02.00 Join toffe82 [0] (n=chatzill@adsl-71-132-87-60.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net) 03.07.23 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 03.12.41 # * Buschel is such a horse :/ 03.12.45 # took me 2 hours now 03.13.12 # would have been better to take a look at the arm asm documentation before 03.15.32 Nick sbhsu_ is now known as sbhsu (n=a6530466@Zion.dorm.au.edu.tw) 03.17.09 # this is for MPC? 03.17.18 # yes, the dct32-stuff 03.19.44 Quit herrwaldo ("Konversation terminated!") 03.40.35 Join advcomp2019_ [0] (n=advcomp2@unaffiliated/advcomp2019) 03.40.58 Quit advcomp2019 (Nick collision from services.) 03.41.11 Nick advcomp2019_ is now known as advcomp2019 (n=advcomp2@unaffiliated/advcomp2019) 03.42.34 Nick JdGordon|zzz is now known as JdGordon (i=jonno@rockbox/developer/JdGordon) 03.43.42 Quit BlakeJohnson86 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 03.54.48 Join phish [0] (n=phish@64.178.148.100) 03.55.51 # Does rockbox support a NTFS formatted drive? 03.56.08 # no? 03.57.27 # no. 03.57.42 Nick fxb is now known as fxb__ (n=felixbru@h1252615.stratoserver.net) 04.01.33 Join phenobitch [0] (i=juma@gateway/gpg-tor/key-0xB9002659) 04.01.50 Part phenobitch ("Leaving") 04.04.54 # meh, i can't speak for other targets, but beast won't even get as far as the bootloader anyway if you reformat the storage partition 04.05.15 # unless i'm just missing exactly the right parameters for mkdosfs 04.19.31 Quit blo0dy (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 04.20.51 Part Buschel 04.24.47 Join miepchen^schlaf_ [0] (n=miepchen@p54BF74AF.dip.t-dialin.net) 04.34.48 Join homielowe [0] (n=eric_j_l@d205-250-152-29.bchsia.telus.net) 04.38.42 Quit miepchen^schlaf (Connection timed out) 04.40.39 # http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/asiapcf/05/30/japan.closet.ap/index.html 04.40.46 # saratoga2, fine fine response, but I think you just guaranteed another post by cool walking. ;) 04.40.58 # er what, this isn't the chan i was in! ignore that :p 04.42.18 # soap: I suppose if the original post were *slightly* different, saying "your only options for an assured ability to use Rockbox" instead of just "your only options" there wouldn't be as much room for quibbling. 04.46.10 Join BlakeJohnson86 [0] (n=bjohnson@99-200-178-61.area2.spcsdns.net) 04.47.51 Quit EspeonEefi (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 04.50.19 Quit desowin (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 04.54.19 Quit krazykit (Remote closed the connection) 04.54.22 Join krazykit [0] (n=kkit@adsl-69-219-233-76.dsl.ipltin.sbcglobal.net) 04.58.45 Join EspeonEefi [0] (i=espeonee@CERULEANCITY.MIT.EDU) 05.01.28 Quit nuonguy ("This computer has gone to sleep") 05.07.24 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 05.19.13 Part homielowe 05.43.44 Join blo0dy [0] (i=chainsaw@i.will.tell.u.some.hotstories.de) 05.46.46 Quit Thundercloud (Remote closed the connection) 05.53.35 Nick drfsupercenter is now known as drf|away (i=your_mom@d14-69-192-60.try.wideopenwest.com) 05.55.19 Join homielowe [0] (n=eric_j_l@d205-250-152-29.bchsia.telus.net) 06.02.28 Quit fdinel ("Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org") 06.11.47 Join cpu98 [0] (n=de6c4252@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-4f23b47256b12d17) 06.11.55 Quit cpu98 (Client Quit) 06.11.56 Join {Nathan} [0] (n=nathan@oh-69-69-47-242.dyn.embarqhsd.net) 06.12.11 # <{Nathan}> How can I put my Ipod into sleep mode or completely off? 06.12.48 Quit BlakeJohnson86 ("Leaving.") 06.13.10 # rockbox does not have a sleep mode. the manual covers how to turn off the ipod 06.15.15 Join BlakeJohnson86 [0] (n=bjohnson@99-200-147-200.area2.spcsdns.net) 06.24.18 Join nuonguy [0] (n=john@c-24-6-175-26.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) 06.40.26 Quit Xerion (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 06.40.32 Join Xerion_ [0] (n=xerion@cp198589-d.landg1.lb.home.nl) 06.40.46 Nick Xerion_ is now known as Xerion (n=xerion@cp198589-d.landg1.lb.home.nl) 06.51.08 Quit perrikwp ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") 06.52.31 Part toffe82 07.05.50 Join BlakeJohnson87 [0] (n=bjohnson@99-200-147-200.area2.spcsdns.net) 07.05.50 Quit BlakeJohnson86 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 07.07.25 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 07.08.40 Quit Seed (Nick collision from services.) 07.08.46 Join Seedy [0] (i=ben@bzq-84-108-237-178.cablep.bezeqint.net) 07.17.50 Quit BlakeJohnson87 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 07.19.07 Join BlakeJohnson86 [0] (n=bjohnson@99-200-147-200.area2.spcsdns.net) 07.23.13 Quit saratoga2 ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)") 07.26.20 Join wehn_ [0] (n=wehn@ppp59-167-99-212.lns3.bne1.internode.on.net) 07.40.06 Join BlakeJohnson87 [0] (n=bjohnson@99-200-147-200.area2.spcsdns.net) 07.40.06 Quit BlakeJohnson86 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 07.51.41 Quit wehn_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 08.32.57 Quit BHSPitLappy (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 08.34.10 Quit advcomp2019 (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 08.34.15 # morning 08.35.59 Join advcomp2019 [0] (n=advcomp2@unaffiliated/advcomp2019) 08.41.30 Join Rob2223 [0] (n=Miranda@p4FDCEF89.dip.t-dialin.net) 08.46.24 Quit JdGordon ("Konversation terminated!") 08.54.45 Quit nuonguy ("This computer has gone to sleep") 08.59.38 Quit Rob2222 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 09.02.35 Quit BlakeJohnson87 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 09.03.02 Join BlakeJohnson86 [0] (n=bjohnson@99-200-147-200.area2.spcsdns.net) 09.06.07 Join Mathiasdm [0] (n=Mathias@78-22-5-158.access.telenet.be) 09.07.29 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 09.11.42 Join audijack [0] (n=audijack@i59F5457C.versanet.de) 09.13.48 Join jeffdamet1 [0] (n=jeff@dyndsl-085-016-232-230.ewe-ip-backbone.de) 09.17.30 Join AndyI [0] (n=pasha_in@212.14.205.32) 09.29.02 Quit jeffdameth (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 09.52.59 Join Schmogel [0] (n=Miranda@p508C9767.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 09.57.17 Join fml [0] (n=4fd3e7ab@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-51801e7d910a1215) 09.59.10 Join bertrik [0] (n=bertrik@174-032-045-062.dynamic.caiway.nl) 10.03.57 Join PaulJam [0] (i=PaulJam_@vpn-3010.gwdg.de) 10.05.40 Join unpaidbill [0] (i=bill@zeus.barlamenterprises.com) 10.05.53 # yo 10.06.29 # does rockbox allow me to copy mp3s directly onto the ipod, or do i still have to use itunes? 10.07.59 # unpaidbill: if you can install and run rockbox on your ipod then you can forget itunes. You'll just have another drive to copy files to. 10.08.02 Join ompaul [0] (n=ompaul@gnewsense/friend/ompaul) 10.08.37 # excellent. even if rockbox is skinned with a bunch of goatse images, it's worth using just for that reason alone. 10.08.41 # thanks! 10.08.41 Quit Schmogel (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 10.20.34 Join std [0] (n=std@78.107.42.178) 10.22.34 # unpaidbill: although some people dislike it exactly for this reason too 10.23.21 # markun: well, reading the Golden Quotes I think that kind of behaviour is common, no? 10.23.47 # wpyh: some also dislike it because of the bag-of-shit sound :) 10.24.24 # * wpyh runs behind a sofa 10.24.29 Join einhirn_ [0] (n=Miranda@p5B0330E1.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 10.24.33 # * wpyh comes out again 10.25.09 # well, some people expect RB to actually sound *better* than the OF 10.45.27 Join SliMM [0] (n=SliMM@62.217.213.161) 10.45.32 # hello 10.45.43 # how do I create a font for rockbox 10.45.44 # ? 10.46.11 # actually, how do I convert a TTF for use with rockbox? 10.46.34 # maybe you find something here: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/CreateFonts 10.46.39 # SliMM: you can use a tool called otf2bdf or use a font editor 10.46.55 # thank you 10.46.57 # but conversion from TTF doesn't always look very good (usually it doesn't) 10.47.18 # markun: and what other options do I have? 10.48.52 # SliMM: because there's no translucency / alpha blending 10.48.59 Quit audijack ("Trillian (http://www.ceruleanstudios.com") 10.49.00 Join tri170391 [0] (n=tri17039@125.234.45.20) 10.49.02 Join audijack [0] (n=audijack@i59F5457C.versanet.de) 10.49.09 # so the fonts will appear more like "cookie crumble fonts" 10.49.13 Part tri170391 10.49.38 # wpyh: yes, I figured that out, but how can I make fonts look better 10.49.50 # the fonts already there look quite well 10.50.35 # Try bitmap fonts 10.51.46 # do you think DejaVu has a bitmap version along with the true type? 10.53.34 # I know it's a bit off-topic, but where's the fonts folder in linux? 10.55.45 # What info is shown in the 'Rockbox Info' screen about the drives? "Free/Total" or ''Occupied/Total"? 10.56.27 Quit miepchen^schlaf_ () 10.56.58 # SliMM: Ah, DejaVu -> that would be best drawn using AA 10.57.28 # I don't know whether there's any, but right now we don't have that support 10.57.39 # wpyh: I can't argue with that, but most fonts would 10.58.00 # wpyh: I haven't found any support for that 10.58.13 # Yes, right now we don't have support for "AA" fonts 10.58.15 # :) 10.58.18 # wpyh: and I think it's rather impossible for some targets 10.58.32 # i think ther is a patch on the tracker 10.58.52 # PaulJam: that sounds interesting 10.59.31 # Yes, for monochrome targets it may be impossible 10.59.43 Join davina [0] (n=davina@cpc1-sout6-0-0-cust616.sotn.cable.ntl.com) 10.59.49 # PaulJam: which FS task is it? 11.00.12 # wpyh: :)) I was reffereing to slow targets, like my iPod Video 11.00.22 # 8961 11.00.27 # referring * 11.02.01 # I'll stick to aliased fonts for now, my iPod works slowly enough 11.02.07 # :P 11.02.57 # OK, thanks 11.03.07 # SliMM: is it a 5.5gen iPod or a 5gen iPod? 11.03.16 # 5 11.04.23 # wpyh: this should do it: http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/8877 11.07.11 # Uh, SliMM: the screenshot in that tracker item shows the '0' being ugly 11.07.19 # maybe this font is best rendered with AA after all 11.07.19 # :) 11.07.32 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 11.07.34 # Anyway, yeah, my 5.5gen iPod also renders very slowly 11.08.26 # and I think you should use convttf for the purpose of converting the fonts if possible: http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/8961 11.08.41 Quit tvelocity (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 11.09.20 Join tvelocity [0] (n=tony@athedsl-113588.home.otenet.gr) 11.17.55 Quit fml ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)") 11.18.54 Join dabujo [0] (i=xx@p4FDB2E02.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 11.19.05 Nick Horschti is now known as Horscht (n=Horscht@xbmc/user/horscht) 11.22.07 Join wehn_ [0] (n=wehn@ppp59-167-99-212.lns3.bne1.internode.on.net) 11.33.27 Quit std () 11.35.10 Join ender` [0] (i=krneki@foo.eternallybored.org) 11.36.35 Join miepchen^schlaf [0] (n=miepchen@p54BF74AF.dip.t-dialin.net) 11.50.24 Join fyrestorm [0] (n=fyre@cpe-68-173-163-56.nyc.res.rr.com) 12.05.54 Join herrwaldo [0] (n=waldo@ip-81-11-200-253.dsl.scarlet.be) 12.06.08 Join desowin [0] (n=desowin@atheme/member/desowin) 12.07.27 Join gregzx [0] (n=chatzill@drj57.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) 12.08.37 Quit nplus (Remote closed the connection) 12.08.38 Join PaulJam_ [0] (i=PaulJam_@vpn-3015.gwdg.de) 12.11.18 Join nplus [0] (n=nplus@141.25.Globcom.Net) 12.11.24 Join stoffel [0] (n=sfr@p57B4E3F2.dip.t-dialin.net) 12.11.32 Join Nico_P [50] (n=nicolas@rockbox/developer/NicoP) 12.15.12 Join moos [0] (i=moos@m198.net81-66-127.noos.fr) 12.15.44 Quit Rob2223 () 12.17.06 Quit AndyI (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 12.18.05 Join AndyI [0] (n=pasha_in@212.14.205.32) 12.24.41 Join Rob2222 [0] (n=Miranda@p4FDCEF89.dip.t-dialin.net) 12.27.03 Quit PaulJam (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 12.31.30 Quit miepchen^schlaf () 12.33.49 Quit gregzx ("ChatZilla 0.9.82.1 [Firefox 2.0.0.14/2008040413]") 12.34.26 Join gregzx [0] (n=chatzill@drj57.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) 12.49.35 Quit stoffel ("leaving") 12.51.51 Join Horschti [0] (n=Horscht@p4FD4EE43.dip.t-dialin.net) 12.52.35 Quit Horscht (Nick collision from services.) 12.57.39 Join merbanan [0] (n=banan@83.233.243.146) 12.58.18 Join domonoky [0] (n=Domonoky@rockbox/developer/domonoky) 13.03.23 Quit Rob2222 () 13.03.32 Nick fxb__ is now known as fxb (n=felixbru@h1252615.stratoserver.net) 13.05.40 Part phish 13.07.36 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 13.14.23 Quit tvelocity (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 13.14.52 Join tvelocity [0] (n=tony@79.131.108.139) 13.21.15 Join miepchen^schlaf [0] (n=miepchen@p54BF74AF.dip.t-dialin.net) 13.25.08 Join Buschel [0] (n=abc@p54A3FA44.dip.t-dialin.net) 13.29.10 Nick Horschti is now known as Horscht (n=Horscht@xbmc/user/horscht) 13.29.58 # am i the only one with problems with the pc-sim (ipod video)? it starts and shows some internal error 13.30.45 Join spiorf [0] (n=spiorf@host71-214-dynamic.20-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) 13.32.17 # * Buschel would like to use the sim would for some vast printf-debugging 13.34.08 # in which environment do you try to run the sim? i think audio in the vmware image is broken 13.34.25 # PaulJam: win2k 13.34.43 Quit K4rP4D (Remote closed the connection) 13.35.01 # PaulJam: if i remove the .rockbox folder it basically starts 13.35.39 # (with some error message and without any plugins or themes of course) 13.36.40 # you could try this (assuming you use the vmware image): http://www.rockbox.org/irc/log-20080606#20:10:24 13.38.44 # hmm, my problem sounds different -- the sim worked before. and it doesn't crash on trying to playback a track -- it even doesn't load and start 13.39.18 # ok, i thought maybe voice tries to playbac at startup 13.41.13 # weird... hopefully i can track it down... 13.42.22 # * Buschel wants to try to insert/adapt an existing fast dct asm-optimized into mpc 13.42.39 # but for this i need to check what the C-version of this fast dct does 13.42.46 Join Sin [0] (n=vis@121.245.188.34) 13.43.23 # Buschel: and whats the error ? 13.43.24 # yesterday i started to translate mpc's dct into asm. hard work and the function will get quite large 13.43.36 # Buschel: what source revision do you use? 13.44.00 # PaulJam: r17703 13.44.33 # domonoky: i am not on my dev-pc right now. so, i cannot say exactly. i just thought it might be known... 13.46.08 Join fdinel [0] (n=Miranda@modemcable097.232-203-24.mc.videotron.ca) 13.47.17 # is the location of the .rockbox-folder for sim the same? or was this changed? 13.47.40 Join shiftplusone [0] (n=shiftplu@c211-28-56-74.frank1.vic.optusnet.com.au) 13.48.16 Join petur [50] (n=petur@rockbox/developer/petur) 13.48.38 # Buschel: did you do a "make install" after building the sim ? 13.48.57 Join K4rP4D [0] (n=KrPD@unaffiliated/krpd) 13.49.23 # domonoky: no, only "make zip", unzip in the standard folder and copy the .exe 13.49.39 # domonoky: good hint, i'll try this next time i'm on my dev-pc 13.49.51 Join faemir [0] (n=faemir@88-106-142-213.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) 13.51.28 # then you probably made something wrong there :-) standard way is to run "make && make install && ./rockboxui --background" :-) 13.52.00 # well, i am not perfect ;-) 13.52.07 # thanks for your help 13.56.04 # what version of gcc and binutils am I supposed to have to compile properly? 13.56.28 # I am getting some compile errors I didn't get before. 13.57.06 # ah... 4.1.2 13.57.16 # * 4.0.3 13.57.46 # shiftplusone: if you use "rockboxdev.sh" it will build you the correct compilers and binutils.. 13.58.26 # nuh, I'm on gentoo so I'd rather do it the more gentoo-ish way. 13.58.42 # (the more time consuming one) 13.58.49 # then dont complain if you get problems.. :-) 13.59.29 # shiftplusone: the version you need depends on the architecture you are building for 13.59.46 # Difference between complaining and asking if anyone is aware of such problems and how to overcome them (not up to that stage until I make sure I have the right version of everything) 13.59.50 # be aware also that various patches are needed 14.00.06 # the rockboxdev.sh is much easier 14.00.28 Join Rob2222 [0] (n=Miranda@p4FDCEF89.dip.t-dialin.net) 14.00.29 Quit Rob2222 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 14.00.37 # shiftplusone: Sure, but if you don't use it I suspect much of the help will be related to research it yourself or use the known working method supplied 14.01.04 Join Rob2222 [0] (n=Miranda@p4FDCEF89.dip.t-dialin.net) 14.01.15 # BigBambi, the method is supplied on the same page the script is on. 14.01.30 # Well, it tells you what you need 14.01.30 # hi, is there anyone here familiar with the ipod firmware partition format? the ipl website is down... 14.01.33 Quit K4rP4D ("Leaving") 14.01.43 Join Sjano [0] (n=opera@117.81-166-241.customer.lyse.net) 14.01.51 # shiftplusone: What I mean is, it is up to you to get them built correctly with the required patches etc 14.01.53 # hello 14.02.03 Join Thundercloud [0] (n=thunderc@resnet01.nat.lancs.ac.uk) 14.02.07 # BigBambi, not a problem. 14.02.31 # Is there a way to update rockbox on my ipod? or do i just install the new one over the old? or uninstall the old then install the new one? 14.02.44 # wpyh: just ask your question... (ipod have two partitions, first firmware, then a fat32 for the data) 14.02.55 # Sjano: just extract the new build over the old one 14.03.02 # Or even easier, use rbutil 14.03.04 # yes, and I'm asking about the first partition (the fw partition) 14.03.10 # Sjano: just install rockbox again... (no need to install the bootloader again) .. 14.03.19 # As I understand it, there are a few sections in the partition 14.04.16 # Now, ipodpatcher patches the firmware partition so that our BL gets run by the flash rom 14.04.26 # For me, this dos not work with one CF card 14.04.38 # (I did the CF card mod) 14.04.56 # domonoky: thanks 14.05.24 # But the fact is, the flash rom can be flashed: Put a fresh firmware update into the fw partition, and upon reboot the ipod will flash itself 14.05.54 # if i use rbuild, will it delete my old fonts themes and so on? 14.06.32 # you mean rbutil, and no 14.06.35 # Sjano: no, rbutil will just extract a new rockbox.zip on your player, all extras will stay intact-- 14.06.45 # And if I understand it correctly, the code there (for flashing the flash rom) will be executed 14.07.12 # thanks again :D 14.07.17 # so in my theory if we can put our BL in place of the flash image, we can make the flash rom run it 14.07.28 # wpyh: as far as i know ipod dont do flash upgrades. the firmware is on the disk, not in flash.. 14.08.12 # Well, there is a flash rom that runs and loads the OF. This flash rom is inside a flash chip 14.08.32 # wpyh: sure, but thats probably only a bootloader.. 14.08.47 Join pmac135 [0] (n=PMAC@ool-45738f56.dyn.optonline.net) 14.08.55 # Yes, I think that's a bootloader 14.09.22 # btw... is building rockbox with CFLAGS like -O2 reasonable/beneficial/possible? 14.09.26 # wpyh: but what do you mean with ipodpatcher didnt work on your cf disk ? 14.09.40 # hello everyone, what's it take to get into decoding firmware? i want to make progress on the sansa e200 v2 port 14.09.51 # Oh, ipodpatcher works 14.10.20 Quit Sin ("Leaving") 14.10.21 # but after rebooting, the ipod won't boot neither the OF or RB 14.10.35 # shiftplusone: rockbox build system uses -O2 where it helps (ie some codecs and plugins)... enabling it generaly is probably not good.. 14.11.11 # wpyh: but the OF works with the CF disk ? 14.11.12 # domonoky, ah, didn't know it has been done. thank you. 14.11.51 # no, the OF doesn't work with the CF 14.13.47 Join Seldaek [0] (n=seld@crom.seld.ch) 14.14.32 # wpyh: then it could be you CF card which misbehaves, some CF cards dont support the ATA standard fully... 14.19.08 Join mf0102 [0] (n=michi@85.127.182.43) 14.19.23 # Yes, I think the CF card is the culprit here, because another CF card can boot just fine 14.19.51 # So what I'm trying to find out is, how come the flasher code can run, while the OF can't? or even RB 14.20.30 # I've been going through the dev pages and wasn't able to find anything on getting the ipod to interact with other devices (eg, computer, accessories). Any help? 14.21.15 Quit gregzx ("ChatZilla 0.9.82.1 [Firefox 2.0.0.14/2008040413]") 14.21.38 # shiftplusone: rockbox doesnt support apple accessories (noone has figured out how the serial port work on the ipod)... 14.23.29 # domonoky, ok, I thought it would be a matter of disassembling the original firmware passing it through something like IDA and seeing how they do it.... but I am clueless when it comes to assembly. 14.23.42 Quit einhirn_ ("Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org") 14.24.16 # shiftplusone: yes, thats a way to find out, but it isnt easy and nobody has done it .. :-) 14.24.34 # isn't there a work-in-progress patch for accessory support? 14.25.10 # didn't ipodlinux have some ipod-to-ipod module? 14.25.46 # i think its known in older ipods (1st & 2nd gen) but i am not sure.. 14.26.16 # shiftplusone: maybe this could be of interest for you: http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/8624 14.27.36 # that tracker entry sounds promising.. :-) so i take back my words .. :-) 14.27.50 # PaulJam_, ah thanks a lot. 14.35.37 # where could i find the commands as database.ignore and how to delete database and so on? i've searched the wiki, but cant seem to find it again 14.38.40 # Sjano: have you looked in the manual? and the wikipage named "DataBase" should contain much useful information too. 14.47.53 # i've searched databse on the wiki, found a page, but didn't contain the answers i was looking for 14.48.11 # if you ment this http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/DataBase 14.49.10 Join jeffdameth [0] (n=jeff@dyndsl-091-096-060-123.ewe-ip-backbone.de) 14.52.35 # Sjano: so what exactly are you looking for? usage of database.ignore /-unignore and how to initialize etc. are explained in the manual. 14.53.46 Join johan___ [0] (n=chatzill@c-6f46e555.186-14-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) 14.54.01 Nick johan___ is now known as jswetz (n=chatzill@c-6f46e555.186-14-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) 14.56.08 # hmm.... found the manual.... but can't seem to find what to files to delete to delete the database files to rebuilt it.... is it all database files in .rockbox? 14.56.50 Quit Buschel () 14.58.40 # the database files are the *.tcd files in the .rockbox directory, but if you are running a current build (from today!) it should be sufficient to select "initialise now" in order to rebuild the database. 14.59.55 Quit jeffdamet1 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 15.02.38 Join lachlan123 [0] (n=7a681d3e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-368cd8cc3a279d33) 15.02.56 Quit lachlan123 (Client Quit) 15.03.05 Join lachlan123 [0] (n=7a681d3e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-461181465523eb13) 15.04.35 # wow, the ipod 5.5 port has gotten 100x better since i used it last 15.05.13 # big thanks to all the developers:) 15.07.20 # is there any way to know what version of sansa you're buying from a store ? or is there a way to downgrade it to v1 if it's a v2? 15.07.33 # because I don't want to buy that if I can't run rockbox on it 15.07.39 Join nicktastic [0] (n=nick@unaffiliated/nicktastic) 15.07.41 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 15.08.19 # and yet, it's the only player that's rockbox-compatible that I can find in stores:/ 15.08.39 # excepted for the ipod but I won't touch that 15.08.58 # Seldaek: the general rule is that if it mentions Audible support on the packaging, it's probably v2 15.08.58 # the v1 and v2 players differ in hardware, so there is no way to downgrade. the only reliable way to tell if it is v1 or v2 is by looking at the firmware version. 1.xxx =v1, 3.xxxx )v2 15.09.50 # yeah I've seen that PaulJam_, but when buying online that's not really an option :/ 15.10.40 Join borges [0] (n=bruges@brln-4d0c1052.pool.mediaWays.net) 15.10.55 # Unfortunately all other ways are hit-and-miss 15.10.58 # gevaerts: don't see that in the specs but I don't have the packaging :/ 15.11.46 # any clue where I could get some other compatible player in europe ? I know about the ihp120's on ebay US but that kinda sucks with the shipping fees 15.12.14 Quit bertrik (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 15.12.54 Join bertrik [0] (n=bertrik@174-032-045-062.dynamic.caiway.nl) 15.14.37 Quit lachlan123 ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 15.14.39 # Seldaek: I would say that ebay (somewhere in europe) is probably your best bet, but if I were you I'd first narrow down the possibilities a bit. h120 and sansa are pretty different ;) 15.15.08 # well the h120 I trust it because I have one, but the hd seems dead 15.15.28 # but $200 is too much for that old black&white screen thingy 15.15.38 # Then why don't you just get a new HD ? 15.15.51 # Seldaek, there is new ports that is being worked on that might be a good idea 15.15.57 # Seldaek: have you thought of replacing the HD? or even better: do the CF mod. 15.16.26 Join K4rP4D [0] (n=KrPD@unaffiliated/krpd) 15.16.43 # CF mod? will look into that, but replacing the hd, yeah I thoguht of it, the thing is that even without that dead HD (if that's indeed what's wrong), it is kinda falling apart 15.17.18 # I'm forced to use the optical out because the other out-jack is completely dead (shortcircuit/bad contact) 15.17.30 # and I don't know how much time the optical will last.. 15.18.02 # so I don't really want to invest in a new hd + screwdrivers if it's ruined anyway 15.18.08 # OK, that's a good reason ;) 15.18.21 # not sure what are the prices for those hd.. any clue ? 15.19.47 # advcomp2019: and yes the new ports is an option as well, but since there is no summary page with all the ports and their status.. I kinda gave up on that, looking in the forum isn't always clear if you don't know shit about C/ASM/chip talk :) 15.21.12 # hm yeah there is kind of a summary in fact 15.21.24 # I'll have a look at those players 15.22.45 # i think the cowon d2 is coming along very good.. not sure how much they have left myself tho 15.24.37 Join borges_ [0] (n=bruges@e178017152.adsl.alicedsl.de) 15.25.30 # is there two versions of it ? pricing seems weird 15.26.22 # anyway they're quite expensive:/ 15.26.46 # I don't get why they can't make a simple old fashioned player that would be cheap 15.27.16 # There are tons of cheap, basic players. 15.27.32 # But you're not going to find any if you're just trying to find players that run Rockbox. 15.27.34 # color display etc.. I just want music dammit:) 15.27.49 # yeah that's the problem Llorean 15.28.05 # I want decent hardware but to listen music, not watch movies and whatnot 15.28.14 # * moos points Seldaek the old archoses ;) 15.28.35 # couldn't find any 15.28.42 # Are you checking ebay? 15.29.22 # a bit, I grown desperate searching through all the battery replacements and protection covers though 15.29.31 Join stooo [0] (n=sto@y066163.dynamic.ppp.asahi-net.or.jp) 15.29.37 # Most players Rockbox runs on, you'll have to find used. 15.30.55 # that's why, it's maybe better to chek new ports (like previously advised) /me thinks to gigabeats 15.31.44 # The problem with new ports is that it may be up to a year before the player you've bought is stable. Or never. 15.31.55 # For a "simple" music player, I'd just recommend the Gigabeat F. 15.32.13 # Works now, can be had at decent capacities for very fair prices, and very stable for a Rockbox target. 15.32.19 Part stooo 15.32.20 # yup, sure there still are 15.32.49 # * moos is happy anyway with his beast :) 15.33.42 # thanks to jhMikeS for his crazy works (while we are here ;) 15.34.20 # Yeah, but with the Gigabeat S you're paying more for features he's not interested in, anyway. 15.35.28 # seriously the S aren't so expensive if you spot a nice bid on ebay or such 15.35.56 # * moos did ;P 15.38.44 # no gigabeat S on ebay atm it seems anyway 15.40.16 # Most gigabeat S sellers don't sell outside the US 15.40.32 # moos: They aren't expensive, but they do cost more than the F, and he'd be paying a premium for unwanted features 15.41.43 # well I could live with video playback if it doesn't cost too much :p 15.42.11 # Do you need recording ? 15.42.13 # and monster CPU, and radio and USB host... :) 15.42.23 # no, recording I really don't care 15.42.38 Quit borges (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 15.43.05 # * gevaerts asks because the gigabeat F doesn't have it (no radio either) 15.43.10 # Seldaek: and radio? 15.43.15 # yeah exactly 15.43.31 # radio don't care either 15.43.47 # I had all that on my H120, never used it after the first "try everything" day 15.44.07 # F indeed seems to be the better candidat then :) 15.45.11 # indeed. The F seems to be built especially for you (except for that colour screen and fast cpu that are only used for video...) 15.45.21 # :-) 15.45.56 Join hannesd [0] (n=light@p5B160577.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 15.46.31 # got a iAudio M3 on ebay for 70euros 15.46.32 # There aren't as many of them on ebay as ipods, but if you check regularly you should be able to get one for a decent price 15.46.36 # not sure how good that is 15.47.33 # iaudios made few good things 15.48.01 # the iaudio M5 have the better runtime 15.48.12 # moos: The M3 has good runtime too 15.48.25 # It's basically an M5 without a screen. 15.48.31 # I thinks so too, since no LCD :) 15.48.31 # without a primary screen, rather, just a remote 15.49.22 # and for me the iaudios have one of the best sounf quality 15.49.26 # sound 15.49.34 # Unfortunately, rockbox can play video on that remote ;) 15.49.38 # oh right, I missed the "no screen" part.. :p 15.49.40 # * moos made the hypothesis they shared the same hardwares 15.50.09 # hehe gavaerts :) 15.50.23 # Seldaek: make sure the remote is included. Otherwise it's pretty useless I think 15.50.39 # yeah it is, but no screen bothers me a bit 15.51.09 # the iaudios remote are way better than the irivers one if you ask me (I have both) 15.51.21 # even if ther eis one on the remote, to browse 20gigs it's a must to have some kind of real screen 15.51.54 # The remote is a real screen... 15.52.36 # yup but small :) 15.53.14 # 128x96 15.53.17 # Larger than the c200 15.55.04 # * moos go back to Roland Garros 15.55.56 # * gevaerts finds two gigabeat F20s on ebay 15.56.14 # * Llorean is using his F40 right now. 15.57.16 # gevaerts: US I assume? 15.57.23 # Seldaek: one US, one Ireland 15.57.31 # really? 15.57.40 # why is this crap not finding it here 15.57.51 # Seldaek: objects 160247270600 and 120269885630 15.57.55 # I'm looking worldwide for "gigabeat F" 15.58.09 # thanks 15.58.24 # Or if you like broken ones : 260248317976 (UK) 15.58.34 # no I already have that ;) 15.59.04 # * gevaerts usually just searches for gigabeat and wades throught the skins and batteries 15.59.51 # so much for trusting ebay's search eh 16.00.08 # "gigabeat 20gb" finds both though 16.00.20 # but gigabeat 20 does not.. 16.00.21 # People are really bad at putting decent model information on ebay. Try finding a 1st gen ipod mini some day 16.01.07 # * gevaerts decides to curb the trend towards off-topicness 16.01.34 # Hello... I was using the gentoo crossdev utils before and had trouble compiling.... I was told not to complain unless I use rockboxdev.sh, I did and I am getting the exact same errors... http://pastebin.com/m3eab4ed8 16.01.51 # 16.02.21 # For which player are you compiling ? 16.02.29 # 26 16.02.31 # ipod 2g mini 16.02.41 # make 16.02.46 # *wrong window 16.02.50 # * gevaerts tries 16.03.37 # No patches, used SVN to check out the source? 16.03.49 # yup, latest SVN, no patches. 16.04.43 Quit jswetz (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 16.06.18 Join crash91 [0] (n=crash@41.232.212.130) 16.06.44 # infact I was compiling fine until I ran svn update. 16.07.09 # gevaerts: well thanks for the ebay thingies, I'll try and get one of those unless you wanted to? 16.07.41 # Seldaek: no. I already have an F20 and an F60, so I'm happy :) 16.08.10 # no rockbox trouble? 16.09.00 # No. Both work perfectly 16.10.10 # shiftplusone: current svn builds fine here 16.10.53 # shiftplusone: Can you run 'svn stat' from the checkout root to see if it's really clean ? 16.10.53 # shiftplusone: you could try 'make clean' and/or run configure again. 16.12.36 # I've been messing with the rockboy code to get it working on my greyscale... and it was working just before... I will get those files again to double-check. 16.13.49 Quit Thundercloud (Remote closed the connection) 16.16.23 Join PaulJam [0] (i=PaulJam_@vpn-3101.gwdg.de) 16.17.08 # gevaerts: can those F's read videos ? 16.17.36 # Seldaek: yes (mpeg1/2) 16.18.04 # heavy movies then I guess 16.18.18 # not sure what's the compression ratio on those 16.18.52 # sure... now it builds >.> sorry to make a fuss. 16.18.55 # and anyway having to reencode is annoying so I guess I won't bother 16.19.13 # Compression is decent 16.19.24 Join stoffel [0] (n=sfr@p57B4E3F2.dip.t-dialin.net) 16.19.56 # You'll pretty much always have to reencode for a portable device, since they tend to have processors too slow to decode as large an image as most videos tend to be. 16.20.42 # aye I guess 16.21.41 # will have to make myself some virtualdub scripts, or are there decent apps that do it out there ? 16.22.03 # * gevaerts recently dowloaded 8GB of videos that are 320x240 mpeg1, so he doesn't always agree with that 'you have to reencode anyway' thing 16.22.06 # (don't hesitate to tell me if I have asked enough questions for today:) 16.23.12 # Have a look at http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/PluginMpegplayer for more information than you'll ever need 16.23.34 # okay thanks 16.23.40 Quit PaulJam_ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 16.24.43 # anyway I'll stop reading things because otherwise if I lose the ebay bids I'll have to cry :) 16.25.15 # There will be others 16.25.33 # yay... and the grayscale patch for rockboy still works =) 16.26.02 # aye but I've a few 10hour long train rides coming in the next two months so I'd like to get my broken player replaced asap 16.26.18 Join mackes [0] (n=root@cpe-24-198-43-238.buffalo.res.rr.com) 16.26.50 # last time my harddisk froze on bootup and I was forced to wait for the battery to fail (~15hrs) to shut it down 16.27.18 # There should be a reset button somewhere (in a small hole) 16.27.26 # and then a few months later it just stopped booting, it seeks endlessly 16.27.42 # doing that nice *tik*tik*tik* noise 16.28.18 # 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I've just had an interesting thought: seeing as the m:robe 100 is now supported, I wonder how getting one of these and switching the 5gb micro drive for a 32Gb one would go... 18.22.14 Join Zarggg [0] (n=z@216-15-73-111.c3-0.eas-ubr6.atw-eas.pa.cable.rcn.com) 18.23.18 Join m0f0x [0] (n=m0f0x@189-47-37-78.dsl.telesp.net.br) 18.26.15 Quit wehn_ () 18.26.26 Join wehn [0] (n=wehn@ppp59-167-99-212.lns3.bne1.internode.on.net) 18.26.54 # wehn: If you mean for a cf card, then various people have already done this with e.g. the ipod mini 18.28.51 Quit mackes ("I'm quiting for now.") 18.32.21 Join toffe82 [0] (n=chatzill@ppp-71-130-79-14.dsl.frs2ca.pacbell.net) 18.34.17 # It would probably work then, i'll try it if I find any cheap about the place. 18.38.36 Quit houbysoft ("bye || http://funghos.googlecode.com || http://houbysoft.xf.cz") 18.38.37 Quit Zarggg ("Pursued by a bear") 18.44.02 Join BHSPitLappy [0] (n=BHSPitLa@adsl-65-69-152-118.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net) 18.50.33 Join jswetz_ [0] (n=chatzill@c-6f46e555.186-14-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) 18.50.46 Quit jswetz (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 18.50.59 Nick jswetz_ is now known as jswetz (n=chatzill@c-6f46e555.186-14-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) 18.51.44 Quit wehn (Connection reset by peer) 18.52.09 Nick drfsupercenter is now known as drf|away (i=your_mom@d14-69-192-60.try.wideopenwest.com) 18.52.12 Quit Thundercloud (Remote closed the connection) 18.52.52 Join Zarggg [0] (n=z@216-15-73-111.c3-0.eas-ubr6.atw-eas.pa.cable.rcn.com) 18.54.53 Join wehn [0] (n=wehn@ppp59-167-99-212.lns3.bne1.internode.on.net) 18.55.42 Join PaulJam_ [0] (i=PaulJam_@vpn-3056.gwdg.de) 18.57.57 Quit SliMM (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 18.58.15 Join MethoS- [0] (n=clemens@91.97.241.152) 18.58.57 Join XavierGr [0] (n=xavier@rockbox/staff/XavierGr) 19.02.20 Join PaulJam__ [0] (i=PaulJam_@vpn-3035.gwdg.de) 19.07.47 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 19.09.46 Quit csc` (Remote closed the connection) 19.11.43 Join einhirn_ [0] (n=Miranda@p5B0320D9.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 19.16.56 Join DrMoos [0] (i=moos@m198.net81-66-127.noos.fr) 19.18.14 Quit moos (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 19.18.42 Quit PaulJam (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 19.19.38 Join jeffdameth [0] (n=jeff@dyndsl-080-228-183-113.ewe-ip-backbone.de) 19.19.47 Quit PaulJam_ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 19.20.23 Part Sjano 19.20.59 Part jswetz 19.31.01 Quit desowin (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 19.34.57 Quit jeffdamet1 (Connection timed out) 19.36.25 Join efyx [0] (n=efyx@lap34-1-82-224-140-171.fbx.proxad.net) 19.38.26 Quit BlakeJohnson86 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 19.38.58 Join MethoS_ [0] (n=clemens@91.97.241.169) 19.39.13 Join BlakeJohnson86 [0] (n=bjohnson@99-200-147-200.area2.spcsdns.net) 19.43.45 Join Thundercloud [0] (n=thunderc@resnet05.nat.lancs.ac.uk) 19.44.49 Join desowin [0] (n=desowin@atheme/member/desowin) 19.45.57 Join allele [0] (n=allele@CPE-69-23-137-242.wi.res.rr.com) 19.47.18 # do I have to edit any makefiles to include bmps I added to rockbox's source for plugins? 19.48.14 # allele: no, but you need to edit SOURCES in the bitmaps dir 19.48.50 # ok, thanks 19.49.46 # <{Nathan}> Is there a way to completely turn off my Ipod with rockbox? The closest thing I've seen is just rockbox turning off the backlight for the LCD. 19.50.12 # {Nathan}: press and hold PLAY 19.50.36 # <{Nathan}> Nico_P: that just reboots it, it goes straight back into rockbox that way 19.50.48 # which generation? 19.50.54 # is your ipod plugged in? 19.51.01 # <{Nathan}> 4th generation, Ipod photo 19.51.02 # <{Nathan}> 20GiB 19.52.37 Join Buschel [0] (n=abc@p54A3EE46.dip.t-dialin.net) 19.53.41 Join Christoffer [0] (n=anon@62-197-175-112.ktab.customers.dnainternet.fi) 19.53.51 Join gevaerts_ [0] (n=fg@195-144-092-190.dyn.adsl.xs4all.be) 19.54.22 # {Nathan}: is your ipod plugged in? 19.54.23 Quit gevaerts (Nick collision from services.) 19.54.25 # Yo =) Any specific reason why Ipod Nano 2nd/3rd gen is not supported and any idea when it will be? 19.54.28 Nick gevaerts_ is now known as gevaerts (n=fg@195-144-092-190.dyn.adsl.xs4all.be) 19.54.55 # <{Nathan}> Nico_P: no, it's not plugged in. 19.55.19 # Christoffer: Apple has taken active measures to prevent running 3rd party firmware, and so far their measures are working 19.56.01 # ok, so there is no way to get FLAC playing in a newgen Nano? 19.56.45 Quit desowin ("KVIrc 4.0.0 Insomnia http://www.kvirc.net/") 19.56.48 # no 19.57.10 # ok, thanks for the help =) 19.57.38 Part Christoffer 19.57.43 Quit MethoS- (Connection timed out) 19.58.00 # ok thanks, I think I'm able to add in my bmp's now :D next step: figuring out how to use them :-D 19.58.46 Quit EspeonEefi ("さよăȘら") 19.59.36 Join kugel [0] (n=chatzill@e178115145.adsl.alicedsl.de) 20.05.16 Join Ynzu [0] (i=Ynzu@v165.ip4.netikka.fi) 20.05.35 # hehe 20.10.37 Quit efyx (Remote closed the connection) 20.12.54 Join jeffdamet1 [0] (n=jeff@host-091-096-149-182.ewe-ip-backbone.de) 20.16.04 Join EspeonEefi [0] (i=espeonee@STRATTON-THREE-THIRTY-SIX.MIT.EDU) 20.19.45 Join MethoS- [0] (n=clemens@dyndsl-085-016-166-117.ewe-ip-backbone.de) 20.24.27 Join musically_ut [0] (n=Utkarsh@c66-235-43-166.sea2.cablespeed.com) 20.26.11 Join toffe82_ [0] (n=chatzill@75.8.206.254) 20.26.40 Quit toffe82 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 20.26.42 Quit jeffdameth (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 20.26.47 Nick toffe82_ is now known as toffe82 (n=chatzill@75.8.206.254) 20.26.55 # Hi. I was considering buying an iRiver and use Rockbox on it to allow me to scrobble my plays in Last.fm. So I wanted feedback on how good this feature is. 20.27.15 # The scrobbling for iPods is terrible, and work on Zenses for Zune scrobbling has stopped. 20.27.46 # So iRiver + Rockbox look like a silver way out ... if it will not be a pain doing it, that is. 20.28.10 # So does anybody use last.fm scrobbling + iRiver + Rockbox? 20.32.10 Quit XavierGr () 20.32.10 # where can i dl 'pacroms'? 20.33.14 # Ynzu: From my understanding you can get them from your very own pacman machine. Nobody on this channel knows of any other way to get them 20.33.50 # ah 20.34.37 # damn this supports flac aswell nice 20.34.54 Join desowin [0] (n=desowin@atheme/member/desowin) 20.36.59 Join thegeek_ [0] (n=nnscript@s080a.studby.ntnu.no) 20.37.09 # musically_ut: I know that people do use it, but I'm not a scrobbler myself 20.37.32 # gevaerts, Doesn't look like that at all, does it? :) 20.38.29 Quit MethoS_ (Connection timed out) 20.38.44 # musically_ut: rockbox+qtscrobbler for scrobbling (but it's quite self-advisterment... ;) ) 20.39.08 # desowin, doesn't hurt at all. 20.39.12 # Checking it out now. 20.39.50 # musically_ut: It works fine 20.40.15 # musically_ut: Make sure you get a iriver model that works with Rockbox (H100, H300, H10) 20.40.28 # for the bitmaps in rockbox, are you unable to use numbers as the image name? 20.40.39 # Or any of the other supported players... 20.40.56 # BigBambi, I was wondering what is the max capacity I can get there ... the max I can find is 40Gb H300, but I already have ~30Gb of music ... 20.41.20 # And looks like Qtscrobbler is OK+ for me ... I'll do anything to scrobble my tracks :) 20.41.40 Quit MethoS- (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 20.41.56 # musically_ut: 40 GB H340 or H140 unles you change the hard drive 20.42.13 # * musically_ut whistles at the idea of changing the HDD 20.43.38 # musically_ut: have a look at http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/BuyersGuide, there are several supported players that are available with more than 40GB 20.43.53 # or am I getting errors because I'm not using the 16 colors? 20.44.01 # gevaerts, Thanks! 20.45.07 # Only two, iPod and Coown. :-\ 20.45.15 # *Cowon 20.45.23 # Also the gigabeat F 20.45.24 # Toshiba too 20.45.33 # BigBambi, you were saying something about changing HDD for iRiver? 20.45.54 Join toffe82__ [0] (n=chatzill@adsl-76-240-238-14.dsl.frs2ca.sbcglobal.net) 20.47.32 # http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/HardDriveReplacement 20.48.23 # Up to 80 GB for the iriver (starting from a 40GB - case is different size), unless you try an adaptor 20.48.33 Join balleyne [0] (n=balleyne@CPE001d7e686f31-CM00195efba7ac.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) 20.49.06 # BigBambi, looks interesting. 20.49.15 # Let me compare prices for a second. 20.50.24 # musically_ut: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/ZIFToATAAdapter 20.52.05 # * musically_ut is rubbing hands together .. and pinging old friends and encouraging them to try this out before him :D 20.58.00 Quit toffe82 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 20.58.08 Join fml [0] (n=4fd3c198@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-c09544cb445457cb) 20.58.10 # hehe well I think it took me an hour, but I got my bmp's to be included when compiling rockbox :D 21.00.40 # Hello. I tried to transfer files to my Sansa c200 (with OF's USB). I had a SDHC card inserted, and the player didn't boot. After shutting it off and removing the card everything went ok. Is this known and normal/expected behaviour? 21.00.50 Join jeffdameth [0] (n=jeff@dyndsl-091-096-053-161.ewe-ip-backbone.de) 21.04.54 # I'm having trouble getting my 3rd Gen iPod to boot Rockbox consistently (i.e. most of the time). It usually freezes at the Rockbox splash screen, though occasionally it actually boots. Any advice? 21.05.44 # balleyne: what version of rockbox? 21.06.41 # 13938-070720 (trying to update it now... ) 21.06.47 # .... 21.07.01 # That is over 10 months old 21.07.10 # This problem was fixed a long long time ago 21.07.51 # you should update the bootloader too 21.07.53 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 21.08.11 # ok, thanks, that's great news 21.09.09 # And next time, please update first - you are over 10 months and 3000 versions out of date - things get fixed all the time and we don't want to waste time hunting down fixed problems 21.09.56 # <{Nathan}> Is there a way to completely turn off my Ipod with rockbox? The closest thing I've seen is just rockbox turning off the backlight for the LCD. When I press and hold play, it just reboots. 21.10.11 # {Nathan}: It should shut down when you do that 21.10.27 # Sounds like there is some other issue 21.10.31 # BigBambi: part of the problem is that it won't boot into the Apple firmware anymore (hence my renewed interest in getting Rockbox to run)... can I update the firmware+bootloader if I get it to boot in Rockbox, or is there some reason I need to use the Apple firmware (i.e. not overwriting files while they're in use...)? 21.10.43 # balleyne: use disk mode 21.11.05 # balleyne: Rockbox has no USB on ipod - you can't use it to update from 21.11.19 # (or firewire - I can't remember which the third gen is) 21.13.56 # (about c200): it stpped with rockbox boot screen still visible. Is it the OF that failed? 21.13.59 # BigBambi: right. was reading that on the wiki. damn. Whenever I try to boot the Apple firmware, it just resets itself before getting past the Apple logo. Am trying disk mode, but without much luck... 21.14.20 # disk mode is in flash, so unless you have a hardware problem should always work 21.14.25 Quit fml ("CGI:IRC") 21.14.39 # However, it can be tricky to not wobble fingers etc 21.15.58 Quit jeffdamet1 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 21.16.00 Join borges_ [0] (n=bruges@brln-4d0c1052.pool.mediaWays.net) 21.16.02 # BigBambi: ah, sweet, ok, figured it out. I started holding the buttons too late at first. 21.16.17 # BigBambi: Thanks. Will try to update to the latest Rockbox now! 21.16.22 # cool :) 21.19.54 # BigBambi: blech, I guess disk mode might not work with USB if the iPod came with Firewire? Don't have firewire on this laptop... I'll have to try another machine upstairs 21.20.11 # BigBambi: thanks again though, think I can figure this out now 21.20.18 # disk mode should work with whatever connection the ipod has I would have thought 21.20.27 # balleyne: good luck :) 21.22.39 Join SUSaiyan` [0] (n=SUSaiyan@cc84863-b.zwoll1.ov.home.nl) 21.25.04 Join tvelocity_ [0] (n=tony@athedsl-142340.home.otenet.gr) 21.32.26 Quit SUSaiyan (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 21.36.51 Quit balleyne ("Leaving") 21.38.04 Quit hannesd (No route to host) 21.41.51 Quit tvelocity (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 21.42.00 Join amiconn [50] (n=jens@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 21.42.34 Quit BHSPitLappy ("Ex-Chat") 21.46.36 Quit merbanan ("Leaving") 21.55.17 Quit PaulJam__ (".") 21.56.39 Quit fdinel ("Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org") 22.03.57 Join {Nathan}_ [0] (n=nathan@oh-69-69-47-242.dyn.embarqhsd.net) 22.09.46 Join hannesd [0] (n=light@p5B160577.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 22.15.19 Quit {Nathan} (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 22.16.52 # http://rca.vmk.zhdk.ch/blog/articles/2008/06/06/a-five-year-old-modern-portable-audio-player/ 22.24.14 Join {Nathan} [0] (n=nathan@oh-69-69-47-242.dyn.embarqhsd.net) 22.27.45 Quit hannesd (No route to host) 22.32.30 Quit einhirn_ ("Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org") 22.35.05 Join BlakeJohnson87 [0] (n=bjohnson@99-200-147-200.area2.spcsdns.net) 22.35.05 Quit BlakeJohnson86 (Connection reset by peer) 22.35.33 Quit {Nathan}_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 22.42.08 Quit allele ("Java user signed off") 22.45.28 Join LeoD [0] (n=LeoD@eta-ori.net) 22.45.57 # hey 22.46.14 Join archet45 [0] (n=Jay@c-71-194-239-55.hsd1.il.comcast.net) 22.46.18 # whats up guys 22.46.40 # I restarted my iPod G5 after having initialized the database... 22.46.49 # now it says "data abort at 000447788 (0)" 22.46.57 # any idea what could be going wrong? 22.47.37 # will atapwd.exe remove an ata password for a hitachi drive that was locked by an xbox? 22.48.59 # archet45: welcome to #rockbox 22.49.11 # archet45: that sounds like something to ask Hitachi about 22.49.44 # sorry, i was searching everywhere on google and it looked like what you guys had to offer was what i needed, i see now that it isnt 22.49.48 # LeoD: data abort is a crash, so it's a bug in Rockbox 22.49.56 # ok 22.49.58 # archet45: it's a tool we've usde in the past 22.50.01 # anything I can do to workaround it? :| 22.50.16 # anyone think the ipod 6g will be able to have rockbox on it anytime soon or ever? 22.50.29 # I guess I'll try reinstalling rockbox 22.50.30 # LeoD: upgrade? fix the bug? downgrade? 22.50.42 # aye :) 22.50.57 # archet45: not soon, possibly never 22.51.08 # huh, I restarted again and now it's "committing database [1/9]" 22.52.26 # but it hangs. 22.53.19 Quit borges_ ("ChatZilla 0.9.82.1 [Firefox 2.0.0.14/2008040413]") 22.54.39 # archet45, lookat this page http://www.rockbox.org/lock.html might help 22.55.12 Join MethoS- [0] (n=clemens@host-091-096-211-126.ewe-ip-backbone.de) 22.55.24 # robin0800, thats the page that sent me here :) 22.57.11 Quit ompaul (Client Quit) 22.57.46 Join balleyne [0] (n=balleyne@CPE001d7e686f31-CM00195efba7ac.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) 22.58.01 Quit MethoS- (Remote closed the connection) 22.58.52 # archet45, well probably no more info from rockbox then 22.59.01 # BigBambi: just wanted to say thanks again. Had to wait awhile to get enough battery charge to do the update, but reinstalling/upgrading the bootloader fixed the issue of the Apple firmware not booting, and the current build of Rockbox seems to be working fine. :) 22.59.57 # hey, whats the current word on the sansa e200 port of rockbox? 23.00.07 Join fdinel [0] (n=Miranda@modemcable097.232-203-24.mc.videotron.ca) 23.00.10 Join MethoS- [0] (n=clemens@host-091-096-211-126.ewe-ip-backbone.de) 23.00.28 # the current word is ... moo 23.00.47 # were you wanting something more specific perhaps? ;-) 23.00.52 # v_v 23.01.22 # yeah.. i just wonder why v2 is so much different to decode than the v1 firmware? 23.01.36 Quit kimc (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 23.01.39 # 1) it's not "to decode" and 2) it's a completely different player 23.02.28 # alright.. im just curious, i feel like the info i find is somewhat vague and distant for the v2 23.02.47 # join in and help and it might happen sooner! 23.03.06 # yeah, i know, thats what i was going to ask.. where to get started or at least some info? 23.03.35 Quit Buschel () 23.03.49 # the forum thread, the v2 page at daniel.haxx.se and the rockbox wiki pages 23.04.09 # imho 23.04.16 Quit Mathiasdm ("Yuuw!") 23.04.33 Quit balleyne ("Leaving") 23.04.52 Quit jhMikeS (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 23.05.18 Quit K4rP4D ("Leaving") 23.05.24 # alright. im thinking about calling up the tech guys soon and seeing how much info i can milk out 23.05.40 # theyre supposed to keep hush about secret techniques, yeah? 23.05.58 # which tech guys? 23.07.15 # who you would call if you had say, hardware problems 23.07.15 Quit dabujo (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 23.07.36 # i know a few days ago, my sansa was completely being misread by my comp for no reason, and i didnt have any options 23.07.47 # there are no drivers to repair, and the sansa worked fine on another comp 23.07.52 Join Horscht [0] (n=Horscht@xbmc/user/horscht) 23.07.54 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 23.08.05 # eventually it just.. started working again but making up stories could get you somewhere 23.08.12 Part LeoD 23.09.00 # to how their file format is created? 23.09.17 # I doubt the tech guys you'd reach even know or would be able to find out 23.09.34 # no, not quite like that.. just getting the foot in the door for how they access such info 23.09.36 # but perhaps I'm just negative 23.09.36 # * gevaerts guesses that pmac135 hopes to get recovery modes 23.09.40 # exactly.. 23.09.55 # I'm quite sure there are no recovery modes to speak of 23.10.21 # isnt that kind of... reverse engineering then, why would they have it in v1 and not in v2 at all? 23.10.29 # There might be some that require soldering 23.10.47 # pmac135: because v2 is a totally new thing and they couldn't carry those things over anyway 23.11.09 # and perhaps even because the modes of the v1 caused to my trouble 23.11.21 # s/to my/so much 23.12.08 # what do you think they do with players they acquire after troubleshooting doesnt work? 23.12.18 # like.. a special program they only have? 23.12.22 # jtag perhaps 23.12.54 # mhmm, possible (i love wikipedia...) 23.13.36 # couldnt hurt to call them, maybe in a day or two 23.13.40 # i wonder if i just flat out ask.. 23.13.42 # haha. 23.14.14 # :-) 23.14.21 # lol my sansa died 23.14.56 # that's funny to you? 23.15.07 # yep 23.15.27 # what do i do now 23.15.50 # find a screwdriver and take the battery on and put it on again? 23.15.55 # *off 23.15.58 # no 23.16.04 # hold power for 15 secs 23.16.20 # oh 23.16.22 # that worked 23.16.24 # nice 23.16.30 # but I really don't understand why you need to shut off something that "died" 23.16.42 # undead 23.16.51 # well to be exact it froze 23.16.56 # and had just some pixel shit 23.17.19 # i just dl'd daily build zip and moved it manually and it happened when i turned it on 23.17.28 # i guess its better use that utitity instead 23.18.05 Quit Thundercloud (Remote closed the connection) 23.21.11 Quit bertrik ("moo!") 23.22.34 Quit drf|away (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 23.23.20 Quit domonoky1 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 23.25.27 Join MethoS_ [0] (n=clemens@dyndsl-085-016-167-115.ewe-ip-backbone.de) 23.29.24 Join jfc [0] (n=john@dpc691978010.direcpc.com) 23.30.25 Join archet46 [0] (n=Jay@c-71-194-239-55.hsd1.il.comcast.net) 23.40.13 Quit BlakeJohnson87 ("Leaving.") 23.40.17 Join Evilnick [0] (n=chatzill@user-0cdfl0l.cable.mindspring.com) 23.41.08 Quit MethoS- (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 23.46.57 Quit archet45 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 23.50.20 Join Thundercloud [0] (n=thunderc@resnet08.nat.lancs.ac.uk) 23.51.51 Quit mf0102 (Remote closed the connection)