--- Log for 14.06.108 Server: zelazny.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 12 days and 19 hours ago 00.03.55 Quit bertrik ("zZz") 00.04.46 Quit Theo_ () 00.05.49 Quit Schmogel (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 00.08.09 Quit aaroe (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00.08.50 Join vort3x [0] (n=vortex@unaffiliated/dfa001) 00.11.31 Quit sarixe (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 00.12.20 Join sarixe [0] (n=sarixe@ool-43540968.dyn.optonline.net) 00.20.08 Join Nibbl [0] (n=Nibbler@e181126221.adsl.alicedsl.de) 00.23.11 Quit domonoky (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 00.32.11 Join linuxstb__ [0] (n=linuxstb@rockbox/developer/linuxstb) 00.43.04 Nick borges_ is now known as borges (n=bruges@e178025238.adsl.alicedsl.de) 00.45.00 Quit robin0800 (" HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- *I* use it, so it must be good!") 00.46.20 Quit linuxstb_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00.53.58 Quit Nibbl ("Leaving") 01.01.01 Quit borges (""<-- wenn der pathos überhand nimmt"") 01.03.36 # The irc log reader's svn revision highlighter is funny. It links the sh1 and arm general register names to an svn revision... 01.04.27 Quit BlakeJohnson86 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 01.04.28 Join dabujo_ [0] (i=xx@p4FDB1138.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 01.05.04 Join BlakeJohnson86 [0] (n=bjohnson@70-13-32-51.area2.spcsdns.net) 01.06.43 Nick fxb__ is now known as fxb (n=felixbru@h1252615.stratoserver.net) 01.06.46 Quit homielowe_ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 01.07.50 Join homielowe [0] (n=eric_j_l@d205-250-153-18.bchsia.telus.net) 01.10.35 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 01.13.07 Join linuxstb_ [0] (n=linuxstb@rockbox/developer/linuxstb) 01.15.04 Quit soap () 01.16.23 Quit mf0102_ (Remote closed the connection) 01.16.30 Quit neddy1 (Remote closed the connection) 01.16.42 Quit jhMikeS (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 01.16.58 Join jhMikeS [50] (n=jethead7@rockbox/developer/jhMikeS) 01.21.33 Quit dabujo (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 01.22.02 Quit EspeonEefi ("さよなら") 01.22.05 Join dabujo [0] (i=xx@p4FDB1FB4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 01.22.34 # When holding the menu button down on my ipod while connecting it to my computer in order to use it while charging, windows pops up with a request for a Rockbox mediaplayer driver - is there something I've missed because I haven't seen this being mentioned in the manual anywhere. 01.24.00 # aaroedk: just ignore it 01.24.16 Quit dabujo_ (Connection timed out) 01.24.22 # aaroedk: Rockbox on devices that need a software usb stack don't yet have one in Rockbox 01.24.42 # aaroedk: And that popup is a side effect of asking for charging but not having a proper stack 01.24.51 Join dabujo_ [0] (i=xx@p4FDB10CC.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 01.24.53 Quit linuxstb__ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 01.25.05 # BigBambi, ok no problem. I was just wondering if there was some fancy functionality I haven't discovered yet :) 01.25.50 # aaroedk: Hopefully in the future :) 01.26.36 # BigBambi, awesome :) 01.26.49 Join Soap [50] (n=Soap@rockbox/staff/soap) 01.30.59 Quit Rob2223 () 01.34.54 Join framo [0] (n=framo@ip-87-82-152-129.easynet.co.uk) 01.39.09 Part framo 01.41.09 Join framo [0] (n=gnicki@ip-87-82-152-129.easynet.co.uk) 01.41.24 # My God. I stand in awe of rockbox. It has every single feature I've been missing with the standard ipod firmware... It's simply made of win! 01.41.41 Quit dabujo (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 01.41.55 Part framo 01.42.15 # aaroedk: true :) 01.43.02 Join framo [0] (n=gnicki@ip-87-82-152-129.easynet.co.uk) 01.43.05 Quit dabujo_ (Connection timed out) 01.43.09 Quit framo (Client Quit) 01.43.40 # BigBambi, It sure is, but I've been nohing but amazed with it during this entire day where I've played with it. Just a small thing such it's possible to queue songs and using the ipod as a "jukebox" is something I've been looking for. It's going to be awesome for this year's Roskilde Festival :) 01.44.28 # ...and slap on a skin with clear colors and big font which makes it viewable when drunk along with the possibility to have it play while charging is going to guarantee music all night long :) 01.45.34 # :) 01.47.13 # BigBambi, I know that rockbox have been in development since 2001 and I assume that the developers know what they're doing but do crashes and fatal errors still occur on players such as my 5th generation ipod? 01.47.37 # it is possible 01.47.49 # From what I can read, everything runs pretty smooth, but I'd hate to bring this to 10 days of rock festival and have it crash and burn on the 2nd day leaving us with not alternative :) 01.47.55 # ipods are probably the worst supported targets 01.48.01 # They are? 01.48.09 # As they are undocumented, so reverse engineering hardware is dfficult 01.48.12 # pixelma: i do think the manual is getting a bit behind though with regards to some undocumented features and plugins =/ 01.48.22 # of course i can fix this as well, but i am just expressing a thought 01.48.41 # aaroedk: you can always just reset in the unlikely event of a crash 01.48.44 # yes, I know that 01.49.19 # BigBambi, ofcourse but what about the music I've put on it. I don't assume that the standard ipod firmware will accept it, will it? 01.49.32 # aaroedk: not if you copy and pasted 01.49.47 # But if you use itunes the rockbox database will index it if it is properly tagged 01.49.52 # BigBambi, ok, so still use the old transfer method and load it into the database? 01.49.58 # BigBambi :) 01.50.01 # scorche|sh: problem is that not enough people seem to care, also the developers who implement new features (even a simple text would be helpful sometimes) 01.50.04 # And when I say reset, you can just resest back into rockbox 01.50.29 # aaroedk: sure. Personally I would rather do anything than let itunes anywhere near anything I own, but heh 01.50.57 # BigBambi, you've actually just made me remember yet another question I had. Is it possible to still boot into the old ipod firmware if -god forbid! - something happens with rockbox? 01.51.01 # pixelma: indeed...i have half considered making people at least write a small blurb about it 01.51.06 Nick fxb is now known as fxb__ (n=felixbru@h1252615.stratoserver.net) 01.51.11 # aaroedk: yes, dual boot works by default 01.51.15 # pixelma: perhaps this can go on the DCE list 01.51.30 # aaroedk: check the manual for the key - I don't have an ipod and can't remember off the top of my head 01.51.41 # BigBambi, I share your oppinon, I just use Winamp to transfer my music instead. It seems that it's transfer works flawlessly with the rockbox db. 01.51.50 # scorche|sh: and not even documented plugins are up to date (thinking of the text viewer as a "nice" example) :\ 01.51.57 # aaroedk: The RB database is 'just a tag database 01.52.10 # BigBambi, oh ok... cool. Better make some notes about this so I'm prepared for the worst :) 01.52.13 # pixelma: did you want to add it to the DCE discussion list, or shall i? ;) 01.52.19 # So as long as the music is there, rockbox couldn't care less how it got there or what the filenames are 01.52.26 # scorche|sh: good idea, go ahead ;) 01.52.39 # BigBambi, true :) 01.52.55 # pixelma: perhaps after i finish this last stretch of work ;) 01.52.58 # Personally, I'm file browser all the way :) 01.53.13 # pixelma: i think we will almost need to have 2 days of discussion with all these topics 01.53.17 # BigBambi, so you simply just transfer them over and strictly use rockbox? 01.53.33 # aaroedk: yes (I don't have an ipod btw) 01.53.45 # aaroedk: but I do that on all my targets 01.53.55 # BigBambi, oh ye, you mentioned that - I forgot :) 01.54.20 # scorche|sh: yes, but also depending on the level of beer consumption ;) 01.55.00 # aaroedk: but I do have a few others :) 01.55.14 # BigBambi, well I stay away from iTunes to - luckily the winamp support is brilliant. But I think for now I'll transfer the ol' ipod-way just to have a backup during the festival in case lightning strikes :) 01.56.14 # aaroedk: So long as all the files are properly tagged (which isn't the same as the itunes database being up-to-date), and you are happy using the database, then yes, that'd work well :) 01.56.32 Join davina [0] (n=davina@cpc1-sout6-0-0-cust616.sotn.cable.ntl.com) 01.57.01 # BigBambi, Cool - rockbox truly is godsend for my needs :) Nothing else to do than play with it intesively untill the festival and get a good feel for it :) 01.57.36 # aaroedk: A fine plan:) - in addition to the fine manual :) 01.57.56 Join Rob2222 [0] (n=Miranda@p4FDCFAC0.dip.t-dialin.net) 01.59.05 # BigBambi, ye. Which actually leads to yet another wave of applauds from me. Once I started reading about installing new bootloader and so on, I really thought this would be a task with high risk and which demanded some technical finess. 01.59.22 # I was si surprised to find that the whole installation task was so userfriendly as it was. 01.59.53 # There's no reason for anyone NOT to use rockbox instead of the crappy and limited standard ipod firmware :) 02.00.12 # The ipods are very resilient - even if you do cock something up, short of taking a hammer to it, it is very difficult to do anything truly bad 02.00.20 # aaroedk: did you use rbutil? 02.01.26 # BigBambi, this 5th generation ipod is about to be brought along for it's 3rd Roskilde Festival - each of 10 days durations. It's really taken a beating and judging by the experior you really wouldn't think there would ever come music from it - but it just keeps on rockin' :) 02.01.40 # even more so now :) 02.01.54 # BigBambi, I actually meant to use the rbutil, but it complained about no themes being present so I just used the manual way. 02.02.27 # yes, for the 5th gen theme downloads via rbutil are currently disabled for download reasons 02.02.54 # BigBambi, ahh so that's why. Well, nevermind the manual install went smooth :) 02.02.58 # s/download/bandwidth 02.03.39 # they will be back up when the devs in question have some free time to transition the theme site 02.03.47 Quit Thundercloud (Remote closed the connection) 02.03.51 # BigBambi, ye I noticed that on the theme site - but what the hell, I don't need anything fancy. I've just gotten myself a theme with high-contrast colors and fonts large enough for blind people to read them so it's ready for the festival :) 02.03.59 # * BigBambi names no names :) 02.04.10 # * pixelma should ;) 02.04.15 # hehe 02.06.14 # although I also got an unfinished part for that (working with divs so it scales better to different screen resolutions but it has its downsides too) 02.09.37 Quit XavierGr () 02.12.40 Quit Hillshum (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 02.15.43 Quit perrikwp ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") 02.15.55 # Since you can import your ipod tracks to the rockbox db is there also a way to import your playlists? 02.16.02 # No. 02.16.23 # The Rockbox DB doesn't have any sort of playlist database. 02.16.35 # But there are tools to export iTunes playlists that might work, or so I've heard. 02.16.55 # Llorean, well I try to keep away from itunes so I guess I'll just have to redo them :) 02.17.29 # Just about any tool that can create M3U or M3U8 playlists will work fine, just point them at the files on the player. 02.17.59 # I read some directions in the forums but not sure if they still work (and I don't even have an Ipod) 02.18.45 Quit gregzx ("ChatZilla 0.9.82.1 [Firefox 2.0.0.14/2008040413]") 02.20.26 Join ompaul [0] (n=ompaul@gnewsense/friend/ompaul) 02.22.47 Quit davina (Remote closed the connection) 02.26.44 Quit herrwaldo (Remote closed the connection) 02.30.16 Quit Soap (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 02.34.05 Join Hillshum [0] (n=chatzill@75-165-246-127.slkc.qwest.net) 02.35.00 Join davina [0] (n=davina@cpc1-sout6-0-0-cust616.sotn.cable.ntl.com) 02.38.21 Nick jodedor is now known as vain (n=vain@adsl-75-45-221-114.dsl.sfldmi.sbcglobal.net) 02.46.52 Join homielowe_ [0] (n=eric_j_l@d205-250-153-18.bchsia.telus.net) 02.46.52 Quit homielowe (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 02.47.44 Join homielowe [0] (n=eric_j_l@d205-250-153-18.bchsia.telus.net) 02.47.44 Quit homielowe_ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 02.50.38 Join linuxstb__ [0] (n=linuxstb@rockbox/developer/linuxstb) 02.51.02 Part pixelma 02.51.42 Join soap [50] (n=soap@rockbox/staff/soap) 02.51.48 Quit Hillshum ("ChatZilla 0.9.82.1 [Firefox 2.0.0.14/2008040413]") 02.52.53 Quit kugel ("ChatZilla 0.9.82.1 [Firefox 3.0/2008052906]") 02.54.27 Quit ompaul (Client Quit) 03.02.03 Join wpyh [0] (n=william@th245062.ip.tsinghua.edu.cn) 03.03.56 Quit linuxstb_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 03.04.25 # I only got 21:30 in my second run :( 03.04.33 Join goffa [0] (n=goffa@216.220.23.105) 03.10.10 Quit aaroedk ("( www.nnscript.com :: NoNameScript 4.21 :: www.esnation.com )") 03.10.38 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 03.12.24 Join simonrvn [0] (i=simon@unaffiliated/simonrvn) 03.22.50 Nick vain is now known as jodedor (n=vain@adsl-75-45-221-114.dsl.sfldmi.sbcglobal.net) 03.25.23 Join perrikwp [0] (i=4aa794a0@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-a4f733b8d2ba93f7) 03.35.19 # is EmilyKelly here? 03.35.46 # (that's a WikiName btw since I don't know his/her nick) 03.36.38 Join linuxstb_ [0] (n=linuxstb@rockbox/developer/linuxstb) 03.38.17 Quit simonrvn ("bbiab") 03.39.13 Join simonrvn [0] (i=simon@unaffiliated/simonrvn) 03.43.47 Quit fdinel ("Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org") 03.46.49 # sorry, I found it now 03.47.13 # eeminy: are you there? thanks for the updates to the IpodConversionToFAT32 page, but I have a few questions for you :) 03.48.16 Quit linuxstb__ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 03.50.40 Join linuxstb__ [0] (n=linuxstb@rockbox/developer/linuxstb) 03.50.52 Quit davina (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 04.00.34 Quit BlakeJohnson86 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 04.01.26 Join BlakeJohnson86 [0] (n=bjohnson@70-13-32-51.area2.spcsdns.net) 04.01.30 Join nuonguy [0] (n=john@c-24-6-187-202.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) 04.03.51 Quit linuxstb_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 04.15.48 Join miepchen^schlaf_ [0] (n=miepchen@p54BF5AE3.dip.t-dialin.net) 04.20.16 Quit fyrestorm (Client Quit) 04.26.34 # Has anyone heard from rasher recently? Last I can find in the logs is 17/04/2008. 04.32.21 Quit miepchen^schlaf (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 04.32.44 Join joconnorwi [0] (n=jeff@adsl-99-141-51-172.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net) 04.33.05 Join fyrestorm [0] (n=fyre@cpe-68-173-163-56.nyc.res.rr.com) 04.34.45 # hello all! Can I get some suggestions of your favorite widescreen pmp? 04.35.50 # anyone? 04.38.51 # joconnorwi, this is an on-topic channel about rockbox. discussion about non-rockbox devices (except porting efforts) is offtopic here 04.39.25 # but, i'd like to use rockbox on whatever I get! 04.42.11 Part joconnorwi 04.43.17 Quit BigBambi ("Please insert girder") 04.43.40 Join BigBambi [0] (n=Alex@rockbox/staff/BigBambi) 04.50.00 Join homielowe_ [0] (n=eric_j_l@d205-250-153-18.bchsia.telus.net) 04.50.00 Quit homielowe (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 04.50.15 Quit homielowe_ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 04.50.44 Join homielowe [0] (n=eric_j_l@d205-250-153-18.bchsia.telus.net) 05.02.59 # there is no "widescreen" PMP supported by Rockbox., 05.04.11 Quit homielowe () 05.04.42 Join DuoMaxwel [0] (n=noemail@c-98-204-202-42.hsd1.md.comcast.net) 05.04.48 # hey everyone....having a weird problem 05.05.00 Quit perrikwp ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") 05.05.01 # i just installed rockbox on this sansa e280 and after plugging it in for the first time to my computer 05.05.09 # the top 2 lines of the lcd are cut off in rockbox 05.05.16 # and in the default firmware they are corrupt colors 05.05.18 # soap: Well, the c200 has a widescreen aspect ratio, color screen, plays video, and has removable storage. ;) 05.06.03 # DuoMaxwel: Did you follow the official install instructions from Rockbox.org, and not install anything else but what the manual says to? 05.06.15 # i used the rockbox utility 05.06.20 # and that's all i did to it 05.06.42 # i made the .rockbox folder hidden as i did to version.sdk and version.txt 05.06.56 # but i did that on my last e280 and it was fine 05.07.04 # The top two lines being like that is a very old bug that should be fixed, unless you're using an old bootloader. 05.07.20 Join perrikwp [0] (i=4aa794a0@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-8d971a673b43387e) 05.07.40 # i just uninstalled the bootloader to see if it goes away 05.07.47 # and its still the same 05.07.51 Join audijack_ [0] (n=audijack@i59F5425D.versanet.de) 05.08.06 Join linuxstb_ [0] (n=linuxstb@rockbox/developer/linuxstb) 05.08.20 # If it's happening without the bootloader installed, I can't see how it relates to Rockbox then. Without the bootloader installed, no Rockbox code runs. 05.08.46 # well yeah i figured =P 05.08.53 # any ideas on why it happened though? fauly lcd screen? 05.08.57 # it was fine up until pluggin it in 05.10.41 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 05.11.16 # on starting to the first sansa screen it doesnt have it...then afterwards it does 05.11.54 # any ideas...im starting to freak out that im goign to have to RMA it again 05.12.54 # You had RBUtil actually remove the bootloader, you didn't just delete .rockbox, right? 05.13.24 # sounds like you have an old bootloader because i remember that issue myself 05.14.07 # right Llorean 05.14.25 # i first removed rockbox by clicking remove rockbox, then removed the bootloader by clicking remove bootloader 05.14.51 # You might want to try updating or re-installing the original firmware. 05.15.16 # alright, ill grab it off of the sandisk site as soon as i retry installing rockbox 05.16.50 Join danielblanche54 [0] (n=daniel@67-225-1-220.sktn.hsdb.sasknet.sk.ca) 05.17.21 # Is there any way to turn off the "recording" section listed in the main menu of Rockbox (I'm using a 80GB iPod) 05.18.39 # Only by compiling a build without it 05.19.07 # Ok, thanks 05.19.19 Quit linuxstb__ (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 05.19.56 # Its just that whenever I accidentally go in there, it will disable sound output until it is restarted, and it gets slightly annoying, but thank you! :) 05.21.55 # Yeah, that's a bug that's been there for a very long time. =/ 05.22.23 Join Hillshum [0] (n=chatzill@75-165-246-127.slkc.qwest.net) 05.22.38 # May I ask why that bug is present. Is it known what is causing it/ 05.22.38 # ? 05.23.10 # Knowing what causes it, and knowing the right way to fix it are two different things. 05.23.31 # Personally though, I know neither. I think it's known what causes it, though. 05.24.01 # Yeah, I guessed as much. thank you for the answer, however. 05.25.09 Quit audijack (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 05.25.48 # and another thing, while I'm here. Is it possible to charge my iPod with rockbox while it is switched off and plugged into a wall outlet? 05.26.56 # it will turn on to charge\ 05.27.30 # im guessing he meant from rockbox 05.28.31 # in the Apple firmware it can stay in standby to charge, under rockbox it will boot up fully to charge. 05.28.47 # Llorean this is really confusing and doesn't make any sense 05.28.52 # I worded my original question very badly, sorry! 05.29.03 # i just updated the firmware (sandisk) and there's still those two lines that are corrupt on the leftand then black on the right 05.29.26 # when i first start it up they show up the regular color but then the whole screen shifts downwards and those top lines are corrupt 05.30.10 # danielblanche54: Rockbox doesn't have a standby mode. 05.30.28 # DuoMaxwel: Well, it's not really something we can help you with here. This channel is for support of the Rockbox software itself 05.31.09 # Thank you 05.32.27 # im going to try that sandisk connect recovery thing 05.36.06 Join BlakeJohnson87 [0] (n=bjohnson@70-13-32-51.area2.spcsdns.net) 05.36.06 Quit BlakeJohnson86 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 05.36.14 # Llorean: you spoke of a bug involving the top lines of the lcd screen..what did that regard? 05.36.30 # i googled for it but all i found was something on the ipod and its screen lines remaining on after turning the ipod off 05.36.39 Join mixfever [0] (n=mixfever@c-98-192-226-50.hsd1.md.comcast.net) 05.36.49 # DuoMaxwel: If you're having the problem without Rockbox installed, I don't see what it matters... 05.37.04 # You really need to be investigating Sandisk's support paths at this point. 05.39.07 # i dont know, the similarities seem a bit too similar 05.40.02 # What similarities? Our bug was a problem in _Rockbox_ initializing the hardware improperly. Your problem is somewhere in the Sandisk firmware. Even if the problem is the same, it's their firmware and not something we're here to fix. 05.44.03 # im trying a recovery mode reformat/firmware upgrade 05.44.19 # i know you aren't here to fix something...i was merely asking out of curiousity 05.44.22 # Please, take this to the off-topic channel. 05.47.14 Quit audijack_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 05.47.31 # Llorean: why am i being pushed off to the off-topic channel? 05.47.46 # As I've said a few times, the topic here is Rockbox... 05.47.52 Part danielblanche54 05.48.03 # I'm asking for a help regarding a problem that occurred while using rockbox 05.48.24 # Yes, but a problem we've established is not a Rockbox problem... 05.49.15 # Llorean, the c200 is 16:9? 05.49.43 # soap: Approximately. Closer to 16:9 than 4:3 05.49.50 # I think it's actually 16:10 05.51.03 # 15:9 I'll be 05.52.00 Join linuxstb__ [0] (n=linuxstb@rockbox/developer/linuxstb) 05.53.10 Join Megaqwerty [0] (n=Megaqwer@unaffiliated/megaqwerty) 05.55.31 # Could anyone here help me out? I'm trying to install rockbox on a first generation iPod nano, and the ipodpatcher is giving me: [ERR] Short read - requested 8388608 bytes, received 324096 any ideas? 05.55.32 Join Jonj20 [0] (n=4151da70@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-3aa3835502ddf03e) 05.56.16 # help 05.57.12 # Megaqwerty: does it always receive 324096 bytes, or does it change randomly? 05.57.24 # wpyh: I'll check, hold on 05.57.35 # hey can any 1 help me im tryin to install rockbox on my sansa m240 mp3 player 05.57.46 # wpyh: Yes, it always does. 05.58.03 # Megaqwerty: even after you unplugged and plugged in the nano again? 05.58.16 # wpyh: haven't tried that. Hold on. 05.58.54 # please can any 1 help me in new to rockbox 05.59.06 # Jonj: don't simply ask forh elp 05.59.07 # do some work 05.59.12 # go to the site 05.59.17 # AFAIK rockbox supports "Sansa c200, e200 and e200R series (not the v2 models)" (quoting www.rockbox.org) 05.59.18 # dont expect to be simply spoon-fed instructions 05.59.33 # wpyh...way to spoon feed him =P 05.59.48 # DuoMaxwel: sorry :) 05.59.55 # wpyh: Yes, even after unplugging, and plugging it back in. 06.00.02 # i no but im trying to install it on a m240 just with the source code 06.00.10 # * wpyh thinks it migt be a hardware issue 06.00.12 # Jon 06.00.21 # Megaqwerty: are you on Linux? 06.00.25 # wpyh: correct 06.00.26 # so you programmed your own drivers for the m240 and found a way to replace the source code? 06.00.36 # * wpyh wonders whether Jonj20 wants to port rockbox to m240 06.00.43 # Jonj20: You can't just install it and hope it'll work. You'll need to do a lot of programming first. 06.00.46 # yes 06.01.00 # Megaqwerty: IIRC ipodpatcher tries to read the fw partition... 06.01.08 # im just looking for pointers and tips thats all 06.01.19 # Jonj20: Also, since no port exists, you'll need to figure out how to install on it, since there isn't a method yet... 06.01.35 # can you do "dd if=/dev/sdb1 of=fwpartition" ? this is just checking to make sure linux can actually read it (change sdb1 to your fw partition) 06.02.04 # ok thnks and i no people done it before thats y im looking for help 06.02.06 # wpyh: yeah, I can read it, it mounts fine (that's how I got the .rockbox directory on there as per the manual) 06.02.31 # Megaqwerty: The one you mounted is the second partition right? the first partition is the fw partition 06.02.38 # wpyh: ah 06.02.45 # Jonj20: No, Rockbox has not been successfully installed yet. People have experimented with the hardware, that's it. 06.03.08 # wpyh: that might be it: dd: reading `/dev/sdb1': Input/output error 06.03.22 # o but didnt they get parts of it on there 06.03.35 # Megaqwerty: at which byte? 06.03.42 # it will error at the last byte :p 06.04.25 # wpyh: hold on, pastebin 06.04.32 # you can also see the output file, how bit is it? 06.04.34 # wpyh: http://paste2.org/p/38997 06.04.35 # *big 06.04.39 Quit linuxstb_ (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 06.05.02 # so can any 1 give me some pointers on how to experiment with it 06.05.14 # Jonj20: Please use real English in here. 06.05.20 # wpyh: it's 38.1MB 06.05.20 # The channel guidelines mention this. 06.05.28 # ok im sorry 06.05.45 # Megaqwerty: that sounds looks normal... 06.06.07 # ok here so can any one give me any pointers on how to experiment with it? 06.06.35 # Jonj20: What needs done depends on whether you have a v1 or v2 m200 series, but current status and areas of investigation are n the forum 06.06.38 # in 06.07.05 # ok thanks ill check them out 06.07.15 # hold on 06.07.20 # wpyh: thanks 06.07.41 # i got a version 1.3.0a 06.07.49 # Megaqwerty: can you please post the output of 'fdisk -l /dev/sdb' and 'sfdisk -d /dev/sdb'? 06.08.24 # and also the dmesg output after you plugged in the ipod (with the dd and ipodpatcher runs, etc) 06.08.35 # it will show up as errors if there's a hardware problem 06.08.36 # wpyh: http://paste2.org/p/39000 that's the first one 06.09.32 # wpyh: http://paste2.org/p/39001 the second 06.10.03 # ok... I'm beginning to think you have a hardware problem 06.10.10 # let's verify it by looking at dmesg :) 06.10.59 # http://paste2.org/p/39002 <--dmesg 06.11.22 Join toffe82 [0] (n=chatzill@adsl-75-23-148-24.dsl.frs2ca.sbcglobal.net) 06.11.45 # wpyh: oh, I didn't include the dd and ipodpatcher runs in that 06.11.56 # I'll do that now. 06.11.59 # you should ;) 06.12.09 # just unplug it, plug it in, then run ipodpatcher and dd 06.12.12 # then get the dmesg 06.12.40 # * wpyh wonders whether Megaqwerty unmounted the partition before unplugging, seeing that sdb became sdc 06.13.11 # wpyh: I thought I unmounted first 06.13.16 # but maybe not 06.13.43 # don't worry, I do that sometimes 06.14.40 # wpyh: here's the full thing: http://paste2.org/p/39003 06.15.01 # well...truncated to just the important stuff at least ;) 06.15.27 Quit Hillshum (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 06.15.30 # yeah, that confirms it 06.15.36 # wpyh: think I should run dosfsck on it? 06.15.38 # see the Medium Error messages? 06.15.49 # yeah 06.15.51 # it's not related to the FAT32 filesystem 06.16.04 # it's more of the flash chip inside 06.16.17 # now it may be 06.16.25 # 1. your computer usb port somehow broken 06.16.30 # 2. the data cable broken 06.16.39 # 3. nano's data port broken 06.16.43 # 4. the flash chip broken 06.16.57 # I'd check them out one by one 06.16.59 # :) 06.17.49 # wpyh: well, it runs the Apple fw fine, the cable lets me read the songs in Rhythmbox, and obviously this USB port lets me do all this...but I'll try plugging it into another port if you'd like. 06.18.58 # weird things happen :) 06.19.01 # wpyh: It's been an upstanding citizen other than not letting me play ogg/flac files (and you know...being proprietary) 06.19.23 # yes, test the items above one by one (don't mix them up) 06.19.24 # wpyh: no kidding...how could I verify that all this stuff is intact? 06.19.44 # you mean how test them? 06.19.49 # wpyh: yeah 06.20.02 # for example, for the cable you can get a friend's data cable and try 06.20.06 # make that 2 or 3 friends 06.20.16 # then do the same, one by one, for the other items 06.20.17 # :) 06.20.44 # so, for the nano's data port I have to find someone who will let me install rockbox on their iPod? 06.20.53 # no 06.20.57 # don't do that 06.21.09 # * wpyh thinks this talk should go to #rockbox-community 06.21.26 # wpyh: it's still tech support 06.21.47 # well, Llorean is here and I think this is ipod nano tech support rather than rockbox tech support :p 06.21.47 # but alright 06.24.15 # wpyh: What does me being here have to do with anything? 06.24.15 Quit Jonj20 ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 06.24.28 # * wpyh hides from Llorean 06.30.15 Join jick [0] (n=nosoccer@72-161-113-111.dyn.centurytel.net) 06.30.18 # heya 06.30.22 # ima in a huge hurry 06.30.42 Join mar1 [0] (n=mark@adsl-69-231-17-102.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) 06.30.50 # but how do you put video on an ipod first gen so you can play it? 06.30.56 # ipods suck 06.31.01 # overpriced 06.31.09 # mar1: That's off topic for this channel. 06.31.09 # for proprietary software 06.31.11 # create a folder in the ipods directory and upload the video in it 06.31.12 # oops 06.31.15 # sorry 06.31.28 # alright, thanks 06.31.35 # ok I just bought s sansa and want to try rockbox any helpers? 06.31.46 # where exactly in the directory? 06.31.50 # mar1: Have you simply tried the directions in the manual? 06.31.57 # jick: Anywhere, assuming you're using Rockbox. 06.32.02 # indeed 06.32.02 # no 06.32.05 # lol 06.32.07 # but i tried "anywhere" 06.32.12 # and it wont show 06.32.14 # is there anyone else who has a sansa in here? 06.32.29 # that has done it 06.32.32 # jick: Did you convert it as per the directions in the PluginMpegplayer wiki page? 06.32.39 # Assuming mpegplayer is even compiled for 1G 06.32.47 # mar1, yea but have you read the manual? 06.32.49 # yea you need to open the ipod up like a normal media disk and in the main directory create the video volder to host the videos in. 06.32.51 # mar1: Try the manual, as I said. It's quite simple 06.32.59 # ok ill look 06.32.59 # *folder 06.33.04 # mixfever: You don't need to create any folders, you can put them anywhere... 06.33.09 # but how do I backup the origional firmware? 06.33.10 # yea 06.33.20 # before I embark 06.33.22 # no i did not llorean, sorry. will .AVIs still work? 06.33.25 # but for oranization, just my thinking. sorry 06.33.36 # jick: No. It's an *mpeg* player. There are conversion instructions you need to follow 06.33.42 # thanks 06.33.48 # mar1, you do not need to since there is places to get the firmware 06.33.55 # mar1: You don't need to. Even if something goes wrong you can just download a copy to restore with. 06.34.08 # ohh I just go to mfg site if rockbox blowz 06.34.19 # so pretty much give it up if i have to get going now and go by the wiki later? 06.34.37 # jick: Yes. Conversion often takes quite a few minutes anyway. 06.35.02 # mar1: Please try to limit yourself to real words in here, as per the channel guidelines. 06.35.10 # ok 06.35.12 # blows 06.35.16 # It's been a while, but If you use Itunes wont that already put the firmware back on it when you make the connection? It's been a while since I have used itunes since I use Amarok on OpenSUSE 06.35.49 # mixfever: He's asking about a Sansa... 06.36.10 # ill go check the manueal and report back as if someone cares to hear how its going, sound good? 06.36.28 # (nods) :) ? 06.36.32 # yea? 06.36.37 # sound good? 06.36.38 # mar1: Please, just come back if you have questions. the channel's logged, and we don't need to fill them up. 06.36.45 # ok sorry 06.36.50 # im a minimalist too 06.36.54 # at times 06.36.57 Quit jick () 06.37.03 # Llorean, does Itunes still do that? 06.37.15 # mar1: Please, just read the channel guidelines. For example, we discourage short, broken lines and favour full sentences. 06.37.29 # mixfever: itunes can be used to restore an ipod, yes. 06.37.46 # But we have methods for restoring one without iTunes too. 06.38.10 # ok very well then I will not write short broken lines but I do not feel that I need to study guidelines before I chat that's like actually reading the text before you click I agree, who does that? 06.38.56 # mar1: Punctuation is also important. Consider reading the guidelines because if you continue to intentionally ignore them, I'll get tired of having you around. 06.39.26 # Nobody here is obligated to help you, and being disrespectful to the channel while still expecting your questions to be answered is silly. 06.41.17 Quit sarixe ("(EE) Failed to load "quit" module") 06.44.24 # ok I have an important question now, my sansa mp3 player reads Model:express on the back but it looks very similar to the c200 06.44.38 # is this a compatible device? 06.44.48 Quit mixfever (Remote closed the connection) 06.45.50 # No. 06.46.11 # so in theory what will happen if I put this software on it 06.46.19 # You can't. 06.46.35 # darn, I was looking forward to it 06.47.13 # so does anyone know where I can buy hardware that is compatible with your software or if I can request support for the express model 06.47.56 # mar1, ebay is a common source of rockbox -compatible players 06.48.12 # Requesting support doesn't really work. 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15.19.17 # excuse-me because my poor english 15.19.30 # who? me? 15.19.41 # yes 15.19.45 # you hg87 15.19.47 # from austria 15.19.52 # i am from brazil 15.20.05 # oh, that's far away from here. ;) 15.20.16 # what about this room 15.20.30 # i enter here because have many people online 15.20.44 # but only us talking here 15.20.46 # * domonoky points to #rockbox-community... please stay on-topic here 15.20.48 # this is the support and development channel for rockbox, it is logged and not intended for social talk. Try #rockbox-community 15.21.05 # tell me more about rockbox 15.21.09 # RatoLasteHara: have a look at /topic ;) 15.21.59 # wow nice 15.22.21 # i like open-source 15.22.46 # i use Linux since 2002 15.23.01 Join MethoS- [0] (n=clemens@host-091-096-213-090.ewe-ip-backbone.de) 15.23.07 Part RatoLasteHara ("Kopete 0.12.7 : http://kopete.kde.org") 15.23.35 # do i have to set the /dev/sdcX device for setting rockbox up with the rockbox utility, or the moutpoint from the ipod? 15.23.54 # hg87: the mountpoint.. 15.23.57 # it's the 5th generation, and the installation was first done on windows, but something is broken. 15.24.10 # domonoky: the problem is that the rockbox utility doesn't recognice the ipod. 15.24.18 # when i set the mountpoint there. 15.24.31 # hg87, are you running the rockbox utility as sudo/root? 15.24.42 # krazykit: ATM as user. 15.24.49 # krazykit: do i have to run that at root? 15.25.30 # the patchers (ipodpatcher and sansapatcher) need raw disd access, normally only root has this.. 15.25.42 # domonoky: thanks, i'll try that 15.25.50 # this patchers are used in rbutil for detection and bootloader install 15.26.20 # hg87, if you have sudo insatlled, just prepend sudo to how you started rockbox utility from the command line, ie sudo ./rbutil 15.27.01 # krazykit: i just didn't know that root access is required. :) 15.27.35 # are there german voice-files available which work with the actual rockbox versions? 15.28.03 # because the owner of this ipod is nearly complete blind, and audio output files would be a charm. 15.29.08 # hg87: i think rockbox provides only english voice files, maybe some users provide a german version. Otherwise you can use rbutil to generate your own voice file, in the language you like :-) 15.29.34 # domonoky: i saw that in the rockbox utility, and i think we'll do that 15.30.01 # instead of rbutil, the build system can also be used for voice generation... (if there are problems with usung rbutil).. 15.30.35 # domonoky: but rockbox itself is a charm for him, because you can set the size of the fonts. 15.32.08 # sure, rockbox has many blind users... 15.32.29 Part stooo 15.33.22 Quit petur ("router reconfig") 15.35.16 Quit Schmogel (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 15.36.29 Quit Buschel (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 15.37.16 Join linuxstb__ [0] (n=linuxstb@rockbox/developer/linuxstb) 15.38.17 # so, after a reset it worked to install rockbox successfully :) - thanks! 15.38.37 Join Schmogel [0] (n=Miranda@p3EE22031.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 15.41.30 Quit JdGordon (Remote closed the connection) 15.44.03 Join JdGordon [0] (n=Miranda@c210-49-157-20.smelb1.vic.optusnet.com.au) 15.49.13 Quit linuxstb_ (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 15.50.02 Join psiborg [0] (n=psiborg@flits103-221.flits.rug.nl) 15.53.12 Join cool_walking_ [0] (n=anthony@203.161.101.209.static.amnet.net.au) 16.00.32 Join moos [0] (i=moos@m198.net81-66-127.noos.fr) 16.02.54 Join kushal_12_27_200 [0] (n=kushal@c-67-173-249-88.hsd1.co.comcast.net) 16.07.31 Join sly-folf [0] (n=slywolf1@87-194-220-13.bethere.co.uk) 16.08.23 Join DerDome [0] (n=DerDome@dslb-082-083-207-026.pools.arcor-ip.net) 16.11.17 # will rockbox run on the Archos Av400? 16.12.31 # sly-folf: no, see rockbox front page for supported models.. 16.12.54 # ah well, just hoping! 16.13.24 # I'm getting tired of the origional user interface 16.15.45 # thanks 16.15.47 # Try pointing existing Av400 owners at Rockbox and hoping one of them is a developer and interested. 16.15.47 Part sly-folf 16.15.52 # or not 16.18.33 Join mf0102 [0] (n=michi@85.127.182.123) 16.21.48 Join linuxstb_ [0] (n=linuxstb@rockbox/developer/linuxstb) 16.22.36 Join Buschel [0] (n=AndreeBu@p54A3E456.dip.t-dialin.net) 16.22.47 Quit linuxstb__ (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 16.30.14 Quit mf0102 ("Ex-Chat") 16.30.34 Join mf0102 [0] (n=michi@85.127.182.123) 16.33.34 Quit kushal_12_27_200 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 16.35.26 Quit Schmogel (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 16.35.27 Quit BlakeJohnson86 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 16.36.26 Join BlakeJohnson86 [0] (n=bjohnson@70-13-32-51.area2.spcsdns.net) 16.36.57 Join Schmogel [0] (n=Miranda@p3EE22031.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 16.37.01 Join MethoS_ [0] (n=clemens@host-091-096-214-251.ewe-ip-backbone.de) 16.38.44 Quit XavierGr () 16.40.19 Quit K4rP4D (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 16.40.37 Quit linuxstb_ (Read error: 101 (Network is unreachable)) 16.40.51 Join linuxstb_ [0] (n=linuxstb@rockbox/developer/linuxstb) 16.41.17 Quit JdGordon (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 16.50.49 Quit MethoS- (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 16.51.33 Quit hg87 (Remote closed the connection) 16.55.22 Join domonoky1 [0] (n=Domonoky@g226199187.adsl.alicedsl.de) 17.00.38 Quit fdinel (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 17.01.01 Quit cool_walking_ (Remote closed the connection) 17.03.54 Join MethoS- [0] (n=clemens@host-091-096-214-251.ewe-ip-backbone.de) 17.09.32 Join BlakeJohnson87 [0] (n=bjohnson@70-13-32-51.area2.spcsdns.net) 17.09.32 Quit BlakeJohnson86 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 17.11.06 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 17.11.09 Quit linuxstb_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 17.11.17 Quit MethoS_ (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 17.12.00 Quit domonoky (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 17.19.06 Quit faemir ("Leaving") 17.21.31 Join PaulJam_ [0] (i=PaulJam_@vpn-3121.gwdg.de) 17.27.38 Join toffe82 [0] (n=chatzill@75.8.207.185) 17.27.51 Join Nibbler [0] (n=Nibbler@e181126221.adsl.alicedsl.de) 17.34.46 Join ender` [0] (i=krneki@foo.eternallybored.org) 17.35.36 Join faemir [0] (n=faemir@88-106-142-213.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) 17.38.28 Quit PaulJam (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 17.44.53 Quit mf0102 ("Ex-Chat") 17.56.06 Quit bertrik (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 18.03.59 Join nuonguy [0] (n=john@c-24-6-187-202.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) 18.04.46 Quit Schmogel ("Miranda IM! 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21.19.41 # For those who are interested (primarily linuxstb I guess who isn't here), I've just opened a ATMT MP170 21.19.55 # It is indeed almost identical to the Logik DAX 21.20.40 # what I assume is the DAB chip has different numbers though 21.23.16 Join petur [50] (n=petur@rockbox/developer/petur) 21.26.49 Part Llorean 21.28.18 Quit BlakeJohnson87 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 21.28.58 Join BlakeJohnson86 [0] (n=bjohnson@70-13-32-51.area2.spcsdns.net) 21.33.22 Join merbanan [0] (n=banan@83.233.163.252) 21.33.46 Quit Nico_P (Remote closed the connection) 21.35.35 # What is the preferred name formatting for wiki pages - I am creating one for the ATMT MP170 - do we prefer ATMTMP170Port or AtmtMP170Port or a different option? 21.37.59 # * BigBambi goes for the latter - it can be changed later if desired 21.57.17 Join midkay_ [0] (n=midkay@216-160-120-243.tukw.qwest.net) 22.04.44 Join gregzx [0] (n=chatzill@dro139.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) 22.07.52 Join saratoga [0] (n=9803c6dd@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-83b1a6a88ad5670e) 22.08.16 # Buschel: how did you get 12Mhz for Synth_full? 22.08.40 # commenting it out double runtime for me, indicating that it was using 50% of the total cpu time 22.09.12 Nick Horschti is now known as Horscht (n=Horscht@xbmc/user/horscht) 22.09.16 # oh i see you're counting dct32 and synthfull seperately, that makes more sense 22.09.23 Join PaulJam [0] (i=PaulJam_@vpn-3020.gwdg.de) 22.09.42 # saratoga: i commented out all the synth-stuff (synth_full1/2 and the small assembler macros) 22.09.55 # saratoga: after that a seocnd run with dct32 commented out 22.10.08 # yeah i must have commented out the entire funtion without thinking about dct32 22.10.20 # makes sense 22.10.30 # (in terms of the results) 22.10.43 # that would imply that theres some other functions out there using significant CPU time then 22.11.34 # also, i played around with scaling the D[] coefficients very hastily last night 22.11.58 # it's 6.6 for dct32 12 for synth (=~19MHz = 50%) + all the imdct-stuff 22.12.16 # the imdct stuff is fairly quick 22.12.23 # ~27% of runtime 22.12.30 # * Buschel slaps his CoolEdit 2000... 22.12.35 # so theres something else using another ~1/4 of the time 22.12.46 # maybe huffman decoding? 22.12.54 # bcause i didn't set ti ti internal 32bit precision i've lost 5 hours or so... 22.13.29 # saratoga: huffman + requantization 22.13.54 # huffman would be nasty to optmize, but requantization on wma could be speed up pretty easily with ASM 22.13.58 # do mad already have that? 22.14.22 Quit Mathiasdm ("Invisible Internet Project: i2p") 22.14.25 # saratoga: only had a quick look at it. my impressions was it's tableized 22.15.12 # regarding synthfull, i did something wrong and completely screwed up playback last night, but even so I'm pretty sure I was using 32x16=64 muls 22.15.17 # the speedup was less then impressive 22.15.44 # i'm actually wondering if it would be worth double checking that the MAC type multiplies actually get the speedup too 22.15.57 Quit midkay (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 22.16.07 # though it would be ridiculous if they did not 22.16.39 # saratoga: i played a lot with mpc today. all the mul/mla/smull/smlal stuff behaves as it should -- regarding cycles 22.17.23 # saratoga: when changing synth to 32bit a maximum gain of about 1.4 MHz could be reached 22.17.54 # saratoga: if you might allow distortion you may gain some additional 1-1.5MHz 22.18.24 # I think i saw an overall speedup of about 5% for the codec, though I can't promise the way i did it was optimal 22.20.33 # at least we must say the libmad guys (and everyone woh further tweaked it) did a good job so far :-) 22.21.43 # then why is it still so slow? 22.22.45 # when looking at the synth/dct32 i think because they did not allow themselves to drop precision 22.23.11 Quit AndyI () 22.23.42 # other then scaling the D coefficients to speed up muls, i'm not sure how else to trade precision for performance 22.23.58 # we could drop the 64 bit accumulators, but then we'd have to rescale after every mul 22.24.01 # sso. 22.24.04 # and that would eat up the gain 22.24.14 # but SSO didn't improve anything when I tried it 22.24.36 # all it does is save a few shifts, and those are so quick and so few they hardly matter 22.24.47 # i mean you do, what, 8 muls per shift ? 22.26.03 # but not in the asm'ed part. if you prescale subbandsamples in dct32 (32x each subband sample) and prescale D() (compile time) you'll still exchange smull with mul about 512 times per subband sample 22.26.07 Quit PaulJam_ (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 22.26.52 # you'll only need post scale the result itself, not after each mul 22.26.53 Join AndyI [0] (n=pasha_in@212.14.205.32) 22.27.01 # ah I see what you're getting at 22.27.57 # there are about 0.7 Mio mul/mla per channel and second of playtime in synth 22.29.11 # but you'll only need to add 0.0441 Mio post shifts and even lesser pre shifts in dct32 22.29.21 Quit Zom_ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 22.29.33 Join Zom [0] (n=zom@h-79-136-43-44.NA.cust.bahnhof.se) 22.31.47 Quit psiborg (Read error: 111 (Connection refused)) 22.35.44 # saratoga: did you take a look at the imdct factors? could these be downscaled for faster multiply? 22.36.57 Quit Zom (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 22.37.07 Join Zom [0] (n=zom@h-79-136-43-44.NA.cust.bahnhof.se) 22.42.12 # Buschel: I haven't looked at the IMDCT at all actually 22.43.12 # i really need to spend some more time on my GSOC project, but I'll try and look at it for a bit now 22.43.29 # the same for me and my family... 22.46.11 # Buschel: have you looked at DCT32? 22.46.28 # seems to me we could speed it up pretty easily just by truncating those trig constants 22.46.50 Join mf0102_ [0] (n=michi@85.127.38.145) 22.47.08 Quit joeblob (Remote closed the connection) 22.47.23 Join joeblob [0] (i=fook@joo.got.haxored.net) 22.48.14 # saratoga: that's not that easy. the results are used again for the next butterflies. you'll need to post sclae them immediately after the mul. this will eat the most the savings 22.50.20 # Buschel: don't the results of each multiply need to be rescaled already? 22.50.37 # though i guess digging through that asm to do so would be quite unplesant 22.51.05 # saratoga: you're right! 22.52.12 # saratoga: but the dct32 should not scale that much with mul-optimizations... only 0.1 Mio per second 22.54.01 # are you sure its that low? 22.54.12 # 80 muls per dct32 call 22.54.28 # and that produces 32 samples? 22.55.02 # yes, but there are also lots of rsb/add + shifts in it. as well as several ldr/str 22.55.24 # saratoga: look at the C code of the dct32 22.55.43 # that would imply we could save .44MHz if we used 16 bit muls 22.55.56 # though maybe its not worth trying to dig through all that asm for a half mhz 22.56.16 # but we do not know what impact this would have on the precision... 22.56.39 # i doubt it'd be that much 22.56.45 # the imdct is interesting in terms of performance 22.57.01 # 16 bit trig constants are generally enough, particularly for such a short transform length 23.01.51 Quit mf0102 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 23.09.16 # http://pastebin.ca/1048115 23.09.31 # the top-10 search phrases used to end up on www.rockbox.org 23.09.53 # during June 23.11.12 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 23.11.12 Join Genre9mp3 [0] (n=yngwiejo@rockbox/contributor/Genre9mp3) 23.12.43 Join webguest07 [0] (n=45e26b04@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-022c249ede2d51a8) 23.13.29 # does rockbox work on ipod 2nd gen 4gb nano? 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