--- Log for 20.06.108 Server: zelazny.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: @logbot Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 18 days and 18 hours ago 00.01.23 # q: I have a 5th or 5.5th gen iPod video here. how would I found out which one it actually is? trying to find the battery capacity in mAh for it... 00.02.48 # Armand`: perhaps by serial number from the ones listed on Apple's site? 00.04.02 Join webguest92 [0] (n=543b02e7@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-27a72518cf86e95a) 00.04.46 Quit webguest92 (Client Quit) 00.05.10 # You guys, it worked FLAWLESSLY. Perfect, and everything. I appreciate it. Im off now, i'll be back! Thank you again! 00.05.30 Join neddy [0] (n=john@nat/sun/x-93c544463132a986) 00.07.49 # apple's specs pages only seem to list play times... 00.08.09 Quit davina ("GNU/Linux the free alternative to Windows") 00.08.12 # Armand`: http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1353 00.08.46 # Booya! Found the backlight pin on the c100! Grunt-work pays off. 00.10.03 Quit bertrik ("bye") 00.11.19 # BigBambi: thanks. 00.11.41 # mine appears to be the late 2006 iPod video 80GB, still nothing on Apple's page on actual battery capacity... I could have sworn I found a page listing it somewhere, but I can't for the life of me remember wher it was 00.14.38 Quit SETH_HIKARU ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 00.15.42 Quit Zagor ("Client exiting") 00.16.11 Join BCM43 [0] (n=Simon@dyn-160-39-29-68.dyn.columbia.edu) 00.16.51 # anybody know about the Gigabeat S, and if it is woth an install to test for bugs? 00.17.17 # Hey can somebody help explain to me how to install a theme i downloaded? Do i just replace the .rockbox folder with the one i just downloaded? 00.17.56 # unzip the theme zip so its contents go to the player while keeping the structure. I.e. you'll get some additional stuff in the .rockbox folder 00.18.06 # BCM43: Not unless you are a dev yet 00.18.24 # It isn't complete, so pointing out bugs is a little pointless 00.18.26 # Unzip it to the sansa root folder? 00.18.27 # BigBambi: ok, do you know if it is being worked on? 00.18.30 # yes 00.18.37 # ok, thanks 00.18.38 # assuming the theme is made correctly 00.18.58 Nick Zarggg_ is now known as Zarggg (n=z@65-78-69-194.c3-0.eas-ubr6.atw-eas.pa.cable.rcn.com) 00.20.38 Quit Schmogel (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 00.21.15 # Okay i extracted it to the root folder, is that it? Just reboot and it will work? 00.21.31 # you need to select it....the manual should go over this 00.21.48 # no need to reboot 00.22.25 # bluebrother: well, being that it is on a sansa... 00.23.21 # Found it. 00.25.41 Join vertic23 [0] (i=bla@d191222.adsl.hansenet.de) 00.26.36 Quit DerDome ("Leaving.") 00.36.17 Quit PaulJam (".") 00.37.06 Quit petur ("Zzzzz") 00.37.12 Quit ender` (" Engineers think that equations approximate the real world. Scientists think that the real world approximates equations. Mat") 00.37.46 Quit mf0102 ("Ex-Chat") 00.38.19 Quit shotofadds (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 00.38.44 Join gorbath [0] (n=allyourb@adsl-76-242-55-38.dsl.sbndin.sbcglobal.net) 00.39.08 Part gorbath 00.39.31 Join gorbath [0] (n=allyourb@adsl-76-242-55-38.dsl.sbndin.sbcglobal.net) 00.40.41 Quit Armand` ("With nasty big pointy teef!") 00.43.46 Quit _vertic23 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00.46.43 Quit Fast2Cash (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00.49.59 Quit knittl (Remote closed the connection) 00.50.19 Quit bluebrother ("mibbit.com: 'nite") 00.52.17 Quit ompaul (Client Quit) 00.54.28 Quit Zom_ (Remote closed the connection) 00.54.39 Join Zom [0] (n=zom@h-79-136-43-44.NA.cust.bahnhof.se) 00.57.44 Join Shaid [0] (n=adam@dsl-202-45-112-116-static.VIC.netspace.net.au) 00.58.02 Join saratoga [0] (n=9803c6dd@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-81684cda4a156926) 01.00.17 Quit herrwaldo (Remote closed the connection) 01.09.05 Join MTee_ [0] (n=mt@41.233.152.103) 01.09.51 Quit Genre9mp3 () 01.13.40 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 01.15.03 Quit gregzx ("ChatZilla 0.9.82.1 [Firefox 2.0.0.14/2008040413]") 01.16.12 Quit MTee_ ("Ex-Chat") 01.17.13 Quit dionoea (Remote closed the connection) 01.19.52 Join iJason [0] (n=c35d1501@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-7054c7e98fed695e) 01.20.14 # Hi 01.21.49 # just wondering if Rockbox will ever appear on the iPod classic 01.21.57 # just wondering if rockbox will ever appear on the iPod Classic 01.21.59 # not as long as no one is working on it 01.22.04 # oh ok 01.22.41 # i had a 5g video but its dead 01.22.58 # i now have the 160gb classic 01.24.31 Quit Davizzl3 ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") 01.25.44 Join MTee_ [0] (n=mt@41.233.152.103) 01.27.27 Quit iJason ("CGI:IRC") 01.29.18 Nick fxb is now known as fxb__ (n=felixbru@h1252615.stratoserver.net) 01.33.11 Quit MTee_ ("Ex-Chat") 01.33.34 Join MTee_ [0] (n=mt@41.233.152.103) 01.33.37 Join dionoea [0] (n=dionoea@yop.chewa.net) 01.35.02 # could someone help me with arabic rendering ? 01.38.09 Quit vertic23 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 01.38.34 Quit EspeonEefi ("さよなら") 01.47.07 Join kushal_12_27_200 [0] (n=kushal@c-67-173-249-88.hsd1.co.comcast.net) 01.53.17 Join japc [0] (n=japc@bl7-79-97.dsl.telepac.pt) 01.57.38 Quit vort3x ("Leaving") 01.59.25 Join BHSPitLappy [0] (n=BHSPitLa@unaffiliated/bhspitmonkey) 02.02.47 Quit einhirn_ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 02.07.40 Join JdGordon|zzz [0] (i=jonno@c211-28-130-47.smelb2.vic.optusnet.com.au) 02.12.05 Join EspeonEefi [0] (i=espeonee@CERULEANCITY.MIT.EDU) 02.13.20 Join Fast2Cash [0] (i=iNFLUENC@76.29.61.203) 02.14.21 # Is anyone still on here willing to help with Rockbox install? 02.16.42 # Fast2Cash: I thought it was working... 02.17.45 # No it is 02.17.52 # But my girlfriend wants it too :D 02.18.02 # Wanna help? Shes gotta Sansa e200...not R. 02.18.11 # that is easier 02.18.25 # I downloaded the Rockbox utility downloader thing. 02.18.34 # You're good. Just run RB util. 02.18.53 # Well it says choose where its mounted. 02.19.05 # Does the auto-detect not work? 02.19.12 # And it says Drive K: and i choose auto-detect, it fails...and then i do it manually, and it STILL fails.c 02.19.35 # Fast2Cash: what version is the original firmware? 02.19.46 # Ah. Did you read the header on the e200 port page? 02.19.52 # Too slow. 02.20.14 # The version? 02.20.22 # Its v1 i checked. 02.21.02 # And i changed it to MSC. 02.21.50 # So you have it set to Sansa e200 on K: drive and you're choosing "Complete Installation"? 02.23.05 # The specific error message may be helpful. 02.23.37 # yes. 02.24.38 # Could not detect device, select manually. 02.25.12 # Do you see 2 drives mounted in exporer? 02.25.52 # *explorer 02.26.40 # What's the error when you set it manually and click "Complete Installation"? 02.27.40 # Manually it says "Not detected!" 02.27.55 # And now my pc isnt even recognizing it 02.28.38 Quit jeffdamet1 (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 02.30.35 # Im going to go try it at her house. 02.39.26 Quit pixelma (" night") 02.40.41 Quit Unixnut ("My damn controlling terminal disappeared!") 02.44.41 Quit inversions (Connection timed out) 02.46.53 Quit bughunter2 ("bye") 02.47.46 Join mrjohn [0] (n=be3b247b@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-b6119c1e0df6e2c8) 02.48.05 # what's the latest with the sansa express? 02.49.06 Quit kushal_12_27_200 ("Leaving") 02.49.21 # i think no one is working on it 02.49.42 # oh ok 02.50.19 # is the express' sound quality better than the e200? 02.51.28 # this isn't the right place to ask 02.52.17 # so what can i ask here 02.52.27 # rockbox stuff 02.53.01 # ok 02.53.01 # theres actually a handy rules link that popped up when you logged in 02.53.10 # and is in the topic too 02.56.14 # i missed it 02.56.40 # so who is the leader of this development 02.56.53 # of what development? 02.58.48 # rockbox 02.59.02 # we dont have a defined leader 02.59.11 # people work on what they wish to work on 02.59.28 # but shouldnt it have a bit more organization 02.59.40 # what do you mean? 03.01.12 # with a leader there would be more organization 03.01.24 # i still dont see what you are getting at 03.01.57 # with everyone doing anything they want.... somethings might take longer to do 03.02.09 # rockbox is cool nevertheless 03.02.35 # why would we force people to do something they dont wish to do?...it isnt like anyone gets paid 03.03.14 # u r not being forced 03.03.27 # but with a leader, u would be more organized 03.03.39 # more focused on specific goals 03.04.22 # If the leader doesn't have the ability to enforce dictates, he's just a guy who says "Dudes, you should be working on X" 03.04.27 # We've already got a few thousand of those. 03.05.22 # so it's more of a laissez faire approach 03.05.49 Quit thegeek (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 03.06.09 # well, this is an open source project being worked on by unpaid volunteers who come and go as they please 03.06.29 # interesting 03.06.43 # do you know how open source works? 03.07.48 # yes i do 03.08.49 Quit mrjohn ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 03.09.15 # To be fair, many projects do have a "head" who makes the final decisions about project direction 03.09.22 Join Broadcom [0] (n=Simon@dyn-160-39-29-68.dyn.columbia.edu) 03.09.38 Quit Thundercloud (Remote closed the connection) 03.09.50 # i have an e250 03.09.54 Quit tvelocity ("Αποχώρησε") 03.10.38 # Llorean: yes, but even then it is a "we will not accept X patch" sort of thing which we alreayd do and can be strengthenes by the board 03.10.55 # Yeah. But some also have roadmaps 03.11.05 # But it's still not leadership, just organization, I think 03.11.51 # indeed, but it is still a "Dudes, you should be working on X" sort of thing unless they say soemthing like "you will have commit access revoked if you do not do Y" 03.12.42 Nick mixfevers_ is now known as mixfevers (n=mixfever@c-98-192-226-50.hsd1.md.comcast.net) 03.12.51 Join [1]cool_walking_ [0] (n=cool_wal@203-59-129-195.perm.iinet.net.au) 03.13.30 Join Simonft [0] (i=Simon@dyn-209-2-228-55.dyn.columbia.edu) 03.13.43 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 03.13.59 # it depends on his definition of a leader, i suppose 03.14.15 Quit Zom (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 03.14.53 Nick mixfevers is now known as mixfever (n=mixfever@c-98-192-226-50.hsd1.md.comcast.net) 03.16.16 Quit mixfever ("Konversation terminated!") 03.16.28 Quit neddy ("Leaving.") 03.21.27 Quit MTee_ ("Ex-Chat") 03.26.50 Quit Simonft ("Leaving") 03.28.19 Join Zom [0] (n=zom@h-79-136-43-44.NA.cust.bahnhof.se) 03.28.46 Quit BCM43 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 03.29.56 Quit Broadcom (Connection timed out) 03.34.03 Quit saratoga ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 03.34.33 Join Zom_ [0] (n=zom@h-79-136-43-44.NA.cust.bahnhof.se) 03.46.06 Quit Zom (Connection timed out) 03.47.56 Quit gorbath () 03.50.19 Nick JdGordon|zzz is now known as JdGordon (i=jonno@rockbox/developer/JdGordon) 03.50.57 Join perrikwp [0] (i=d1a8d351@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-1b62370d76dd05e1) 03.55.51 Quit XavierGr () 04.07.05 Quit Shaid ("*toink*") 04.15.43 Join Thundercloud [0] (n=thunderc@resnet01.nat.lancs.ac.uk) 04.19.13 # is it possible to download flash video and convert it to play in rockbox? 04.20.09 # you might want to have a go at searching google for an "flv to speg2" convertor 04.22.22 # <[1]cool_walking_> *mpeg2 04.25.00 Nick Fast2Cash is now known as Kulsh123 (i=iNFLUENC@76.29.61.203) 04.25.25 # I downloaded a theme and installed it and its a little glitchy, help? 04.28.00 Join Lambdargh [0] (n=Lambda@64.6.88.58) 04.29.23 Quit Lambdumb (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 04.31.31 Quit perrikwp ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") 04.31.51 Quit nuonguy ("This computer has gone to sleep") 04.33.06 Quit Thundercloud (Remote closed the connection) 04.33.52 Join perrikwp [0] (i=d1a8d351@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-146dc2017d1ffdd5) 04.35.33 Quit perrikwp (Client Quit) 04.40.54 Join Zom [0] (n=zom@reactos/tester/Zom) 04.41.10 Quit Zom_ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 04.46.59 Part Llorean 04.50.48 Join miepchen^schlaf_ [0] (n=miepchen@p54BF6CAC.dip.t-dialin.net) 04.58.43 Join Shaid [0] (n=adam@dsl-202-45-112-116-static.VIC.netspace.net.au) 05.06.42 Quit miepchen^schlaf (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 05.13.47 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 05.16.14 Join perrikwp [0] (i=d1a8d351@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-c7d47fea6c0c9fbe) 05.17.02 Quit perrikwp (Remote closed the connection) 05.19.59 Quit fyrestorm (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 05.21.47 Join fyrestorm [0] (n=fyre@cpe-68-173-163-56.nyc.res.rr.com) 05.26.05 Quit Horscht ("We don't make mistakes, we just have happy little accidents") 05.27.30 Quit Zom (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 05.28.53 Quit MarcGuay ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") 05.32.37 Join Zom [0] (n=zom@reactos/tester/Zom) 05.41.32 Quit BHSPitLappy (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 05.51.30 Quit fdinel ("Miranda IM! 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Eventually someone will answer (not me, I don't know how to fix this) 12.43.46 # BuXY95: File View settings? 12.44.16 # (under general settings) 12.44.29 Join J-23 [0] (n=aldwulf@a105.net128.okay.pl) 12.44.36 Ctcp Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood 12.44.36 # * petur is just reading the manual 12.44.56 Join fyrestorm [0] (n=fyre@cpe-68-173-163-56.nyc.res.rr.com) 12.46.02 # well, actually, leaving the unit alone for 10 minutes solved the problem..... 12.46.24 # yeah, i have been RTFM, but no sign of ascending or descending order of file listing 12.46.54 # gevaerts: i should be working now too :) 12.47.13 # BuXY95: this seems to be a known issue. see http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/8949 12.49.04 # thank you, this is a perfect description of my problem. and a perfect remedy. cancel my last note about leaving it alone! 12.54.18 # bye 12.54.19 Quit BuXY95 ("CGI:IRC") 12.54.41 Join inversions [0] (n=sam@cpc1-bele3-0-0-cust658.belf.cable.ntl.com) 12.54.50 Join miepchen^schlaf [0] (n=miepchen@p54BF6CAC.dip.t-dialin.net) 12.58.48 Join DerDome [0] (n=DerDome@dslb-082-083-250-023.pools.arcor-ip.net) 12.59.03 Quit petur ("work->home") 13.08.48 Quit ali_as_ (Connection timed out) 13.11.43 Join PaulJam_ [0] (i=PaulJam_@vpn-3015.gwdg.de) 13.13.55 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 13.15.49 Join Thundercloud [0] (n=thunderc@resnet03.nat.lancs.ac.uk) 13.23.33 Join Schmogel [0] (n=Miranda@p3EE219CD.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 13.25.52 Quit PaulJam (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 13.30.07 Join stooo [0] (n=sto@y066163.dynamic.ppp.asahi-net.or.jp) 13.39.34 Join Bger [0] (n=Bager@78.90.78.107) 13.39.49 Quit Schmogel (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 13.40.06 Quit Bger (Client Quit) 13.41.32 Join Bger [0] (n=Bager@78.90.78.107) 13.46.07 Join wpyh [0] (n=william@th245022.ip.tsinghua.edu.cn) 13.48.48 Quit fyrestorm (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 13.52.44 Join fyrestorm [0] (n=fyre@cpe-68-173-163-56.nyc.res.rr.com) 13.52.58 Part stooo 13.58.55 # * preglow wonders if we'll ever have several nand chips in one dap... 14.00.36 # preglow: why not? 14.01.23 # think i'll leave that for then 14.01.29 # preglow: you mean mapped as several volumes ? 14.02.05 # * gevaerts considers that unlikely 14.02.10 # gevaerts: just thinking in the IF_MV2 sense of things, needing to pass a drive parameter 14.02.20 # gevaerts: me too, so i'll drop it in the actual nand backend 14.02.27 # should be a quick fix anyway 14.05.06 # Anyone here know what the internal audio format is in rockbox? s16? u16? 14.05.20 # depends on what level you mean 14.05.27 # after the decoder 14.05.28 # it's 32 bit ints all the way through dsp 14.05.39 # so 1 sample is 32 bits? 14.05.45 # the decoder can spit out s16 if it wants too, but it'll be converted to 32 bits 14.05.46 # (for each channel?) 14.05.47 # yeah 14.05.48 # yes 14.06.10 # thanks. 14.06.59 Join funman [0] (n=tg@ip545278d7.speed.planet.nl) 14.07.01 # hello 14.07.18 # preglow: funman is porting some rockbox decoder to VLC (for fixed pointed computing) and has issues 14.07.34 # noobness issues i believe ^^ 14.08.06 Quit Thundercloud (Remote closed the connection) 14.09.47 Quit fyrestorm (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 14.10.40 # I'm not sure which format does the wma decoder output (in apps/codecs/libwma) 14.10.52 Join tvelocity [0] (n=tony@athedsl-122898.home.otenet.gr) 14.11.23 # the asf container says it's encoded in 16bps, but maybe the codec does convert it 14.12.13 # in apps/codecs/wma.c decoded samples are given to ci->pcmbuf_insert() 14.13.02 # funman: wma outputs 32 bit ints, non-interleaved stereo 14.13.22 Join fyrestorm [0] (n=fyre@cpe-68-173-163-56.nyc.res.rr.com) 14.13.43 Join domonoky [0] (n=Domonoky@rockbox/developer/domonoky) 14.13.48 # fixed point format, Q30 14.14.05 # no wait, it's interleaved 14.14.47 # asf container can say what it wants, wma is a transform codec, so the output precision is whatever you want it to be, and we want it to be 32 bits 14.14.50 # i'm using mono atm to avoid this kind of questions, and reask myself them later 14.14.57 # good :) 14.15.24 # aah ok, it's clear now :) 14.16.25 Join ctaylorr [0] (n=ctaylorr@bas1-toronto43-1279530223.dsl.bell.ca) 14.19.12 # * preglow wonders where the lang file properties are set 14.20.36 # * preglow finds out 14.22.09 # HAVE_MULTIVOLUME seems to be used to decide if there is a memory card slot available. isn't this wrong? 14.22.24 # Yes 14.23.29 # I think HAVE_HOTSWAP is closer 14.23.51 Quit knittl (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 14.24.03 # main_menu.c seems to use HAVE_MULTIVOLUME to decide if it should print out some values gotten from mmc land 14.24.09 # * gevaerts thinks that this HAVE_MULTIVOLUME/HAVE_HOTSWAP thing should be part of the Big Ata Refactoring 14.24.42 # preglow: vlc uses Q28, I'll need to do some conversion in between 14.24.46 # I guess that needs to be HAVE_MMC 14.25.29 # funman: just a simple shift 14.25.39 # funman: we actually use q28 ourselves, but wma hasn't been fixed for that yet 14.25.52 # gevaerts: definitely 14.25.59 # oh ok 14.26.09 # gevaerts: we should also start treating memory cards equally 14.26.16 # damn I was going to do decimal conversions to understand the representation 14.26.17 # gevaerts: i don't see a reason not to, anyway 14.26.25 # isn't it used for the microSD card info too, not sure that matters 14.26.39 Quit Xerion (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 14.27.14 # Do the ondios use mmc internally too ? 14.27.46 # yeah 14.27.57 # more or less like sd is for sansas 14.32.09 # * gevaerts decides not to look into all this right now. 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I would appreciate a sample, I generate mines with ffmpeg 15.35.04 Quit DaCapn () 15.35.34 Quit kushal_12_27_200 ("Leaving") 15.36.28 Quit fyrestorm (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 15.38.10 Join fdinel [0] (n=Miranda@modemcable097.232-203-24.mc.videotron.ca) 15.39.12 Join saratoga [0] (n=9803c6dd@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-060fe8f974772d18) 15.39.23 # wma does work fine, I'm down to just 1 known problem sample 15.39.52 # though to be honest i don't think I've ever tried a V1 file, so no promises that it will do anything at all 15.40.27 # ok, then I suppose v2 files are more spread. 15.40.47 # what's the problem with your sample ? 15.41.36 # i've made something like a dozen fixes and it still clips 15.42.19 Join Thundercloud [0] (n=thunderc@resnet04.nat.lancs.ac.uk) 15.42.22 # i think it was made with a very special encoder, its quite different then all the other wma files people have reported prpblems with 15.42.45 Join Schmogel [0] (n=Miranda@p3EE219CD.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 15.43.21 # how does the ffmpeg decoder perform on it ? 15.44.30 # you mean encoder? 15.45.07 # nope, if the floating point ffmpeg decoder can decode it properly ^^ 15.45.41 # oh yeah it can 15.45.45 # well I found a sample rockbox can decode.. I will use that one 15.45.54 # you have ones it can't? 15.46.09 # if they're WMA V2 I want them 15.46.25 # it can but .. there's something going wrong 15.46.48 # like if it was using a wrong samplerate 15.47.05 # what samplerate are they? 15.47.11 # I tried several 15.47.15 # 44100 22050 11025 15.47.18 # mono / stereo 15.47.30 # I encode them with some recent ffmpeg 15.47.57 # its possible theres some issue with ffmpeg's files, i don't think its widely used so its unlikely anyone would have noticed 15.48.22 # sure, but I can't run windows media player or stuff ;) 15.49.03 # I'm using ffmpeg r13644 if it matters 15.49.22 # well if you've got a V2 file that doesn't work, send it to me and i'll look at it and tell you why 15.49.25 Join Xerion [0] (n=xerion@cp198589-d.landg1.lb.home.nl) 15.49.55 # do I send you one I did encode with ffmpeg ? 15.50.00 # ~6MB 15.50.11 # well 15.50.12 # 3.1 15.51.43 # asf stream debug: - codec[0] audio name:"Windows Media Audio V8" 15.51.46 # Oo 15.52.10 # thats probably a V2 file, no idea why it identifies as coming from the wma8 encoder though if its from ffmpeg 15.52.27 # if(enc->codec_id == CODEC_ID_WMAV2) 15.52.27 # put_str16(pb, "Windows Media Audio V8"); 15.52.52 # maybe a typo .. or maybe it's the commercial naming 15.54.41 # can I send you the file by mail ? 15.54.49 # yeah email is fine 15.55.00 # mgiacomelli at gmail 15.55.34 # if you're going to debug the codec, MS actually provides a bunch of WMA sample files produced with their encoder, I use those for testing 15.55.38 # I'll cut the first 500k 15.55.55 # don't cut it unless you have to 15.56.01 # http://www.mp3-tech.org/tests/wma9/index.html 15.56.09 # saratoga: I usually rip them from a windows xp install but I have none available 15.56.25 # saratoga: nothing interesting at the end of the file I guess 15.56.56 # testing with ffmpeg isn't the best idea since its based on the ffmpeg decoder, which is itself not 100% complete 15.57.19 # it also makes very odd choices about how to structure files that the MS decoder does not do 15.58.34 # you mean in ASF ? 15.58.34 # also where you the guy asking about assembly and portability the other day? 15.58.40 # nope 15.59.01 # weird someone came in the other day asked about wma, and left before I could answer 15.59.05 # I want to use the fixed point wma decoder in vlc 15.59.07 Quit fdinel ("Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org") 15.59.14 # he wanted to use it on the PSP 15.59.14 # started working on it yesterday only 15.59.43 # the ffmpeg decoder does odd things with the layout of wma frames and deciding which wma feature to use on which files 15.59.53 # anyway I need to step out for 30 minutes 16.00.00 # thanks for your help 16.00.07 # I send you the file 16.00.45 # * funman just notices 16.00.55 # you wrote the decoder for gsoc last year, didn't you ? 16.02.19 # actually I'll be around for a little while if you have questions about the decoder 16.02.26 # yeah i wrote a lot of it 16.03.36 # the sample is leaving 16.04.05 # well I never worked with audio decoding 16.04.12 Quit Schmogel (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 16.04.19 # so I still ignore a lot 16.04.47 # but at least I leaned the samples I was trying to use with my custom decoder can't be decoded by the original one, that's a first progress ;) 16.04.52 # learned* 16.07.49 # i've actually got a command line version of the decoder if that would help you debug 16.08.27 # though its quite messy and much, much slower so you must not use it in your actual port 16.08.57 # that'd be welcome :) 16.09.37 # my first goal is write a correct vlc plugin, which uses a correct/or not library (codecs/libwma in this case) 16.09.45 # second, fix the library if needed :) 16.22.29 Join neliel-tu-odersc [0] (n=ball@77.125.79.210) 16.22.30 # Xscript version 10.0a - by XCITE - get it at: www.xscript.2ya.com 16.23.20 # is there a rockbox version for the sansa fuze? 16.23.46 # probably no 16.24.16 # why probably? 16.24.30 # because I don't know. 16.24.47 # I checked it at rockbox.org, there is no Fuze port 16.24.55 # damn 16.25.16 # rockbox sounds cool 16.26.05 # funman: http://www.duke.edu/~mgg6/rockbox/wmadecoder.zip 16.26.05 Quit neliel-tu-odersc (Client Quit) 16.26.14 # all the models which Rockbox runs on are listed clearly on the front page of www.rockbox.org 16.26.20 # only C200, E200 and (testing) M200 are supported 16.26.30 # does VLC run on embedded devices? 16.26.33 # saratoga: thanks 16.26.36 # yes 16.26.39 # M200 is in development, not testing yet 16.26.46 # which CPUs? 16.27.04 # arm? 16.27.05 # Sansa Fuze sounds cool too ;) 16.27.19 # saratoga: http://hardware.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=08/05/28/2151215 I'm working for this company 16.27.33 # the one doing the port of vlc to this device 16.27.51 # (I'm at work right now) 16.28.02 # funman: the open neuros people have also ported the wma codec to neuros hardware 16.28.03 # saratoga: there's a version at least for the iphone 16.28.27 # saratoga: I wasn't aware ! 16.28.40 # you'll be using ARM and C5400 DSP then I presume? 16.29.31 # Why E200 v2 aren't supported? 16.29.53 # It's called something 6446 I presume 16.30.15 Join petur [50] (n=petur@rockbox/developer/petur) 16.31.11 # we provide ARM assembly optimized routines where appropriate, so performance should be fairly good on TI hardware, but for best battery life, you may want to use the DSP for various things 16.31.12 # J-23: because they're not the same as the E200 v1 internally 16.31.21 Quit EspeonEefi ("さよなら") 16.31.32 # What's the difference? 16.31.39 # pretty much everything 16.31.39 # everything is different 16.31.40 # saratoga: The device I got here has no battery :) 16.31.45 # ;/ 16.31.50 # oh then you won't need to bother 16.31.57 # the only similarity is the shell all the electronics sit in 16.32.21 # saratoga: where did you see a wma decoder for neuros CPU ? 16.32.51 # you should advertise Rockbox and incite people to donate RB :D 16.33.06 # donate RB ? 16.33.38 # J-23: donations aren't what drive the project (although people do donate already) 16.33.55 # developers wanted I guess ? 16.33.57 # funman: last fall one of their developers asked about it and eventually ported it 16.37.56 # GodEater: but when project is donated, developers can buy hardware and hack it. 16.38.09 # i don't think we buy hardware with donations usually 16.38.26 # not even beer... 16.39.11 # J-23: yes they can, if they want to - but most don't. Most developers already have more devices than we have ports for. 16.39.31 # the last thing they'll want to do is give themselves MORE work to do 16.40.09 # was just going to correct you: 'more devices than they have time for' 16.40.22 # that too ;) 16.42.10 # so they can buy unsupported devices and hack them. 16.42.21 # they already HAVE unsupported devices... 16.42.28 # ahh... 16.42.29 # what they need is TIME, and you can't buy that 16.43.06 # unless we have that much donations so some of us can code rockbox full-time :) 16.43.19 # so we need to send them to Mars, while traveling in space they will have time to hack players :D 16.43.43 # petur: doesn't rockbox then become a business, and get itself encumbered with more legal issues ? 16.43.49 # * petur puts J-23 with both feet on the ground again 16.44.02 # Maybe with donations you can sponsor physics researchs 16.44.05 # GodEater: probably :/ 16.44.12 # and find a way to extend time perception 16.46.28 # * GodEater thinks that while a Rockbox port is "up there" on his list of "very difficult things to do", finding a way to extend time is probably somewhat trickier still 16.47.01 # :) 16.48.06 # I am, of course, willing to be proved wrong :) 16.48.51 # Your 2 last sentences were distant from 10 minutes for me ! 16.49.32 # hahaha 16.49.50 # * GodEater is willing to accept donations for this amazing ability he has discovered 16.54.43 # * petur fetches a paperclip :/ 16.55.47 # H180 locked up again? 16.56.19 # h380... yes 16.56.40 Join perrikwp [0] (n=perrikwp@209.168.211.81) 16.57.59 Quit GodEater ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") 16.58.08 Join GodEater [0] (i=c2cbc962@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-0e0a3029b15d80a7) 16.58.57 # md5sum plugin is cool :) 17.00.34 Join nuonguy [0] (n=john@c-24-6-187-202.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) 17.02.09 # hmm 17.02.58 # I tried playing music with original firmware and now I think playing right sound channel only is player hardware defect 17.03.08 # it worked few weeks ago 17.09.36 # saratoga: good news! 17.09.59 # saratoga: I can play mono/wmav2 fine with VLC / while rockbox can not play this sample fine 17.10.10 # so I suppose the bug is in the asf parser 17.10.21 # and your decoder is fine 17.10.34 # I'll try to find some time to find the cause 17.12.13 # funman: is this the file you sent me? 17.13.49 # yes 17.13.59 Join dabujo_ [0] (i=xx@p4FDB1909.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 17.14.03 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 17.14.16 # I can play stereo also 17.14.26 # I have problems with multiple frames in one ASF packet 17.16.34 Join herrwaldo [0] (n=waldo@ip-81-11-195-122.dsl.scarlet.be) 17.19.27 Join Horscht [0] (n=Horscht@xbmc/user/horscht) 17.25.50 # funman: i fixed it in my test driver 17.26.12 # the problem is that that file has a very large number of payloads per file 17.26.31 # which causes the parser to fail unless you increase the amount of memory allocated 17.26.41 # is there a worst case ? 17.26.54 # or is the memory size just guessed out of the wild 17.27.07 Quit perrikwp (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 17.29.24 # just guessed 17.29.32 # we don't have the MS spec so who knows how big it can be 17.31.46 Quit dabujo (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 17.35.25 # asf2.0 spec is public but unfortunately you can't use it when coding open source 17.36.21 Join perrikwp [0] (i=d1a8d351@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-c64586d4ed4e18ed) 17.36.21 # since when can't one use a spec? 17.36.25 Join dabujo [0] (i=xx@p4FDB1BF4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 17.36.43 Join fyrestorm [0] (n=fyre@cpe-68-173-163-56.nyc.res.rr.com) 17.37.31 # since the licence you have to accept to read it says you should not publish software which let other people guess what is in the spec 17.37.37 # even though they can download it themselves .. 17.38.02 # of course the police is not gonna check if you have read it or not 17.38.22 # yes i've been complaining to a everyone in the MS codec group who will listen about that 17.38.40 # its quite silly now that they've given away the WMV spec to have ridiculous terms of the asf container 17.38.48 # but i guess one hand doesn't know what the others doing 17.38.53 # mms is also public now 17.39.01 # saratoga: yep 17.39.09 Quit dabujo_ (Connection timed out) 17.39.38 # linuxstb: whenever you're around I need to ask you about the asf parser 17.39.56 # it's bugging me also right now :) 17.40.33 # I have a file with 8 frames (say wma_decode_superframe_init()) in the 3716 bytes ASF packet 17.40.54 # but how do I know where in the 3716 bytes the 1st frame end ? 17.41.31 # apps/codecs/wma.c just seems to not seek and use the same buffer 17.41.32 # i don't think you can without decoding it 17.41.52 # once decoded, I only know how many decoded samples I have 17.43.27 # asf packets are time stamped, so generally one seeks by looking for the right asf packet 17.43.52 # since the data is huffman coded in the packets, I don't think theres any easy way to associate any given byte with a given wma frame or block 17.44.37 # and since wma is a transform codec, each decoded sample can be computed from the contents of more then 1 frame anyway 17.45.18 Join XavierGr [0] (n=xavier@rockbox/staff/XavierGr) 17.47.38 Join fdinel [0] (n=Miranda@modemcable097.232-203-24.mc.videotron.ca) 17.57.28 Nick Mathiasdm is now known as world (n=Mathias@78-22-5-158.access.telenet.be) 17.57.33 Nick fxb__ is now known as fxb (n=felixbru@h1252615.stratoserver.net) 17.57.34 Nick world is now known as Mathiasdm (n=Mathias@78-22-5-158.access.telenet.be) 17.57.48 # I must be tired ... 17.58.04 # I put a DEBUGF() in apps/codecs/wma.c and got nothing 17.58.14 # to confirm I put an abort() .. and it runs fine :( 18.01.25 # I hope a whole week end of being drunk will shed some light .. :) 18.03.05 Join stoffel [0] (n=sfr@p57B4FFC1.dip.t-dialin.net) 18.03.28 # thanks for the help saratoga 18.05.31 Quit funman ("leaving") 18.12.49 Join __Dragon__ [0] (n=__Dragon@fl-71-53-128-145.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) 18.12.49 Join jeffdamet1 [0] (n=jeff@dyndsl-091-096-035-029.ewe-ip-backbone.de) 18.13.27 # <__Dragon__> is there an ape.codec for rockbox? 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21.09.39 # nano displays very strange signes 21.09.54 # notpad on windows put the file in some kind of pagination 21.11.23 # please? 21.12.10 # the .lng file is likely not what you are after...have a look at the .lang files 21.12.25 Quit lawsuit ("QUIT") 21.12.29 # .lng is a binary... 21.12.50 # awww damn me 21.12.54 # thanks a lot 21.13.13 Join lawsuit [0] (n=vain@adsl-75-45-179-218.dsl.sfldmi.sbcglobal.net) 21.13.46 # doke, see http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/LangFiles 21.13.59 Join Lambduh [0] (n=Lambda@64.6.88.58) 21.14.06 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 21.19.37 Quit Mathiasdm ("Invisible Internet Project: http://www.i2p2.de") 21.22.21 Quit miepchen^schlaf () 21.22.40 Quit Lambdargh (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 21.25.23 Quit Zom (Remote closed the connection) 21.25.34 Join Zom [0] (n=zom@h-79-136-43-44.NA.cust.bahnhof.se) 21.27.30 Join MTee [0] (n=mtarek16@41.233.152.103) 21.27.58 # Hi all 21.32.31 # hi 21.32.33 # it's friday 21.33.50 Join mib_r6kvoxza [0] (i=d8ef4423@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-8f6871322523df05) 21.33.55 Nick mib_r6kvoxza is now known as MarcGuay (i=d8ef4423@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-8f6871322523df05) 21.35.18 # where's the code for the txt viewer ? 21.36.15 # MTee: /apps/plugins/viewer.c 21.38.08 Join bluebroth3r [0] (n=Dom@f053154162.adsl.alicedsl.de) 21.41.39 # PaulJam_:Thanks 21.44.51 Join mcuelenaere [0] (n=mcuelena@rockbox/developer/mcuelenaere) 21.46.14 # mcuelenaere: Is that Creative wiki page of any use? Just wondering if it should stay in the ghost-pile or be made more visible. 21.47.11 # MarcGuay: I suppose itsn't of any real use, it's intention was (like I said on the wiki) for a merge of different pages 21.47.20 Join hannesd [0] (n=light@p5B1616DC.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 21.47.46 # mcuelenaere: Alright, I'll just leave it be then. Seemed to me like most of the info was on the ZVM page anyway. 21.47.47 # but as the original author stopped maintaining it and I don't see the point of it, I suppose it could be removed 21.47.51 # indeed 21.48.12 # well, not all information is there actually 21.48.18 # but it should be all linked from there 21.48.40 # Looking at buying a broken Zen V Plus to crack open and poke at... 21.49.01 # :) shouldn't you first get your c100 running? 21.49.19 # mcuelenaere: ha... my mild ADD is creeping up... 21.49.54 # MarcGuay: ADD? Attention Deficit Disorder? 21.51.55 # mcuelenaere: Yeah I'm just kidding though... 21.53.12 # Evening all. I'm having a dopey day and need some help with my ARM code... 21.53.31 # This: http://pastebin.ca/1052111 is my current I2S FIQ handler, which works nicely. 21.56.51 Quit bluebrother (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 21.57.07 Quit tessarakt ("Client exiting") 22.01.58 Quit mcuelenaere (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 22.02.33 Join mcuelenaere [0] (n=mcuelena@78-21-189-187.access.telenet.be) 22.06.26 Quit bluebroth3r (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 22.08.13 # hmm, where was I? I want to update the code so that registers are only stacked when necessary, ie if more_data is called. 22.08.14 Quit mcuelenaere (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 22.08.55 # but, if I include the three commented-out lines, it starts sending data to the FIFO at about 200% speed. 22.09.05 # I can't figure it out :/ 22.09.15 Part Nash_Wolf 22.12.01 Join mcuelenaere [0] (n=mcuelena@78-21-189-187.access.telenet.be) 22.20.05 # Is it safe to say that the "charger_inserted" method in power-target.c is just checking to see if the USB cable has been inserted? 22.21.09 Join __Dragon__ [0] (n=__Dragon@fl-71-53-128-145.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) 22.21.22 Quit mcuelenaere (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 22.23.05 # does anyone here use any tools to help you read the code (like Doxygen for example ),or you just open an editor and dig through the code ? 22.23.18 # <__Dragon__> is there a video converter that will not cut off part of the video i can use so i can get them on my ipod photo? 22.23.59 Part J-23 22.24.23 # MTee: Notepad++ is free and makes things very readable. 22.24.30 # __Dragon__: see www.rockbox.org/wiki/PluginMpegplayer 22.25.08 Quit Genre9mp3 (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 22.25.10 # MTee: If you mean step-debugging I don't know of any. Unfamiliar with Doxygen. 22.26.52 # MarcGuay : I'm not familiar with Doxygen either .. I was just asking to see if there's such a tool, checking notepad++ now/ 22.29.20 Join mcuelenaere [0] (n=mcuelena@78-21-189-187.access.telenet.be) 22.29.32 # <__Dragon__> but will it cut off part of the video or will it resize it? 22.30.14 # There are various options on that page that will transcode and resize 22.30.22 # If you are using windows I suggest WinFF 22.30.31 # <__Dragon__> just installed it 22.31.05 # <__Dragon__> i had some problem converting once before; it ended up cutting part of the video 22.31.39 # You need to select the correct size to convert to 22.32.12 # * shotofadds hopes someone like amiconn or jhMikeS might see his question in the logs... 22.32.53 Join bluebrother [0] (n=Dom@f053154162.adsl.alicedsl.de) 22.35.04 # shotofadds: (I'm no expert in this, just trying to help :) ): you're sure this is conform GCC calling standards? 22.35.35 # s/):/) :/ 22.35.58 # mcuelenaere: it's using the naked attribute and taking advantage of the extra banked registers in FIQ mode. 22.36.19 # * gevaerts gets emo-sick from mcuelenaere's typing 22.36.24 # yes, but I'm talking about the pcm_callback call 22.36.43 # gevaerts: just a little mixup, the second emo wasn't meant 22.36.44 # the calls out should be fine - they're copied from the PP driver, and do work in the current version. 22.36.57 # ah ok, never mind then 22.37.17 # I just can't work out what would possible cause the behaviour I'm seeing 22.38.37 # BTW why would you stack r0-r3 twice? it is only used in the .more_data AFAICS 22.39.57 # ah never mind, got it 22.40.25 # <__Dragon__> it's not working 22.40.31 # yeah, the idea is to remove the top-and-tail ones 22.41.25 # shotofadds: you mean the first line and the one before "subs pc, lr, #4" or the other? 22.41.45 Quit lolmaus () 22.42.04 # <__Dragon__> blah that program doesn't work -.- 22.42.24 # mcuelenaere: what you said :) 22.42.39 # that way nothing is stacked unless more_data is called 22.43.12 # ah yes, I was just a bit confused 22.43.17 # * Bagder salutes committer #63 22.43.55 # yay! :) 22.43.58 Quit __Dragon__ ("IRC is just multiplayer notepad") 22.44.26 # * MarcGuay bows 22.44.32 # that was a short trial period on the ML...i ahdnt even noticed the mails ) 22.44.33 # :) 22.44.45 # Thanks folks. 22.44.57 # MarcGuay: eventful week for you :) 22.45.19 # scorche: I go back to work on Monday. 22.45.24 # * gevaerts joins the party 22.45.33 # MarcGuay: congrats! (BTW is it Marg or Marc?) 22.45.45 # Ask Badger. ;) 22.46.02 # * Bagder looks innocent and whistles 22.46.03 # Zing. 22.46.23 # alcohol doesn't affet me. noooo 22.46.24 # mcuelenaere: It's Marc. 22.46.24 Quit mcuelenaere (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 22.46.30 # haha can't even spell 22.46.50 # BaGDer: didnt notice ;) 22.47.16 Join mcuelenaere [0] (n=mcuelena@78-21-189-187.access.telenet.be) 22.49.08 # someone with a colour display Ipod around who could help me out real quick finding out the controls so I can describe them in the manual? Easiest if one could just try, the wheel position controls are not simulated and I can't figure out whether they completely override the ususal button defines (which are there too) 22.49.21 # in Rockboy... 22.52.44 Quit ompaul (Client Quit) 22.58.13 Join miepchen^schlaf [0] (n=miepchen@dslb-088-072-232-232.pools.arcor-ip.net) 23.03.21 # why doesn't the wiki allow you linking to %ATTACHURL%/some_html_page.htm ? ( returns with http://www.rockbox.org/nospam.html ) 23.04.25 # you just want to link to another site? 23.04.38 # no, %ATTACHURL% means it is an uploaded file 23.04.47 # I'm just updating the stats plugin to include recently added music files - what are people's thoughts on it also displaying video and image files? 23.04.47 # attached* 23.05.36 # pixelma: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/OndaVX747 (see "VX747writer's workflow is like this:" ) 23.06.48 Quit petur ("Zzzzz") 23.08.09 Quit miepchen^schlaf () 23.14.07 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 23.14.39 Quit mcuelenaere (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 23.17.29 Join Mathiasdm [0] (n=Mathias@78-22-5-158.access.telenet.be) 23.19.50 Join mcuelenaere [0] (n=mcuelena@78-21-189-187.access.telenet.be) 23.21.02 Join robin0800 [0] (n=robin080@cpc2-brig8-0-0-cust394.brig.cable.ntl.com) 23.24.38 # no-one with a colour display Ipod around 23.25.03 # pixelma: I'll get mine 23.25.20 # nice, thanks 23.27.11 # * gevaerts updates it first. r17188 is probably too old 23.27.24 # * bluebrother has some basic system info dialog for rbutil working 23.27.53 # gevaerts: that shouldn't matter for the Rockboy controls 23.28.16 # ok. I've never used rockboy before. I guess I'll need some kind of rom ? 23.28.36 # yeah... 23.29.21 # bluebrother: just for displaying system info, or for pointing out e.g. if people don't have sufficient rights 23.29.23 # +? 23.29.43 # the latter. Otherwise it would be pointless ;-) 23.29.52 # and for debugging with some additional stuff. 23.29.52 # I was guessing so? 23.30.00 # s/?/:) 23.30.25 # Nice work - could save a good few conversations here + forum 23.36.09 # BigBambi: shot here: http://www.stud.uni-karlsruhe.de/~uhcn/rockbox/rbutil/rbutil-sysinfo.jpg 23.36.39 # bluebrother: excellent :) 23.36.55 # it's w32 only, but that doesn't keep me away from finishing it ;-) 23.37.05 # any idea what system information else would be good? 23.37.24 Quit gregzx (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 23.37.24 # It will be nice to be able to say "do you have admin rights" "I don't know" "Click on sysinfo" :) 23.37.56 Quit mcuelenaere (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 23.37.57 # bluebrother: will it use it automatically if you try to write a e.g. Ipod bootloader without sufficient rights? 23.38.54 # no, not yet. My initial idea is to have it in the menu and if people have problems with rbutil ask them to post the sysinfo output somewhere. 23.39.11 # certainly a fine start 23.39.24 # extending it is always possible ;-) 23.39.32 # Is it possible to translate the VID and PID into known device names? 23.39.37 # but I should also finish my bootloader install rework. 23.39.54 # theoretically yes. But I don't know how I can do that using w32api 23.39.57 # So that we don't need to check a look up table manually to see if they have connected correctly 23.40.15 # perhaps internally in rbutil? 23.40.41 # So we know that an ipod colour has xxx and yyy and rbutil does a translation? 23.40.43 # hmm. Would be an option. But OTOH I'd like it better to grab the description from the device itself. 23.40.55 # not all players have unique PIDs 23.41.08 # OK 23.41.12 # and I'd prefer to not maintain another list. 23.41.35 # It would still help to check that there was e.g. an ipod connected at all and not just a usb keyboard for example 23.41.48 # sansa and ipods (I guess the most problematic users) aren't detected using PIDs anyway. 23.41.53 # OK 23.42.04 # yes, as they need admin/root for raw disk access 23.42.16 # I agree. 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