--- Log for 18.07.108 Server: verne.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 5 days and 16 hours ago 00.02.33 Join ipod [0] (n=4a245d5f@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-36f0e82ea9b315e2) 00.02.52 # hello 00.03.01 Join Genre9mp3 [0] (n=yngwiejo@rockbox/contributor/Genre9mp3) 00.03.08 # can sumone help me wit putting themes on my ipod 00.03.13 Join sitwon [0] (n=adam@pool-71-178-11-192.washdc.fios.verizon.net) 00.03.50 # shotofadds: yeah, things are definitely going slower than i'd like, but there's not much to be done about it 00.05.05 # is anyone there 00.05.10 # ipod: What's the problem? 00.05.27 # anywho, i'm off for an early plane. talk to you in about a week (or sooner, if i can find a nice wlan...) 00.05.28 # i cant get themes on my ipod to show right 00.05.37 # ipod: they are likely broken 00.05.53 # preglow: have a good trip! 00.05.55 # i got them off rockbox.org 00.06.26 # btw what u mean broken 00.06.43 # ipod: There were some changes to Rockbox recently which broke most themes. Not all of them have been fixed yet - you could help... 00.06.43 # ipod: yes...those are user-maintained themes (assuming you mean the ones on the wiki) 00.07.12 # yea 00.07.14 Join davina [0] (n=davina@cpc1-sout6-0-0-cust616.sotn.cable.ntl.com) 00.07.26 # how could i he;p 00.07.29 # help 00.07.45 Join jhulst [0] (n=jhulst@unaffiliated/jhulst) 00.08.19 Quit hannesd (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 00.08.56 # ipod: Edit the .wps files (they are text files you can change with any text editor) to update them to work with recent changes. This forum post (very briefly...) describes the changes - http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=17507.0 00.08.56 Quit ipod ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 00.09.03 # Or not... 00.09.47 # great help he was. 00.16.05 Quit davina (Remote closed the connection) 00.18.21 Join davina [0] (n=davina@cpc1-sout6-0-0-cust616.sotn.cable.ntl.com) 00.18.49 # it looks like it's not possible to read the battery voltage during charging on sansa c200, but I can get an idea of the charging current 00.19.14 Quit shotofadds (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 00.19.42 Quit ChristopherW ("Leaving.") 00.20.01 Quit davina (Client Quit) 00.20.37 Quit Horscht ("I got raided by the FBI and all i got is this lousy quit message") 00.22.36 Join ChristopherW [0] (n=christop@ip70-162-55-91.ph.ph.cox.net) 00.22.46 Join PaulJam_ [0] (i=PaulJam_@vpn-3083.gwdg.de) 00.24.50 Quit massiveH ("Leaving") 00.26.51 Join BlakeJohnson861 [0] (n=bjohnson@72-56-206-103.area2.spcsdns.net) 00.29.00 Quit EspeonEefi ("さよなら") 00.34.47 Join Zarggg [0] (n=z@65-78-69-194.c3-0.eas-ubr6.atw-eas.pa.cable.rcn.com) 00.38.32 Join jhulst_ [0] (n=jhulst@unaffiliated/jhulst) 00.38.49 Quit jhulst (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00.39.02 Quit obo ("bye") 00.41.24 Quit BlakeJohnson86 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00.41.58 Quit PaulJam (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00.42.10 Quit Nico_P ("bed time") 00.43.08 Quit PaulJam_ (".") 00.45.28 Join Ebert [0] (n=EbErT@adsl-219-240-120.asm.bellsouth.net) 00.47.24 Quit Lear ("ChatZilla 0.9.83 [Firefox 3.0.1/2008070208]") 00.47.54 Join jhulst__ [0] (n=jhulst@c-71-205-165-118.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) 00.53.57 Quit ChristopherW ("Leaving.") 00.54.09 Quit Nibbl (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 00.56.06 Join LocalToast [0] (n=chatzill@c-98-214-83-229.hsd1.il.comcast.net) 00.56.19 # I have a question 00.56.37 # Actually I don't. 00.56.40 Part LocalToast 00.57.56 Join krazykit [0] (n=kkit@host-69-145-35-234.static.bresnan.net) 00.58.26 Join Horscht [0] (n=Horscht@xbmc/user/horscht) 00.58.59 Quit ompaul (Client Quit) 00.59.07 Join ChristopherW [0] (n=christop@ip70-162-55-91.ph.ph.cox.net) 01.00.31 Quit jhulst_ (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 01.04.00 Quit ChristopherW (Client Quit) 01.05.22 Quit DataGhost (Nick collision from services.) 01.05.29 Join DataGhost [0] (i=dataghos@unaffiliated/dataghost) 01.06.53 Join EspeonEefi [0] (i=espeonee@CERULEANCITY.MIT.EDU) 01.07.22 Join fdinel [0] (n=Miranda@modemcable204.232-203-24.mc.videotron.ca) 01.08.49 Quit Genre9mp3 () 01.08.58 Join ChristopherW [0] (n=christop@ip70-162-55-91.ph.ph.cox.net) 01.09.09 Part ChristopherW 01.13.42 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 01.17.26 Join Johan [0] (n=chatzill@kkr-94-56-233-83.3.cust.bredband2.com) 01.21.21 # yo! who is responsible for the meizu port? 01.22.00 # i've been reading up and would like to help 01.22.23 Quit tarbo (Remote closed the connection) 01.22.23 # I think markun is working on it 01.22.34 # no one is "responsible", but if you read the thread in the New Ports forum, that should give you a hint as to what needs to be done 01.22.36 Join tarbo [0] (n=me@unaffiliated/tarbo) 01.24.35 Quit avis ("Leaving") 01.24.54 Join Thundercloud [0] (n=thunderc@84-51-130-71.judith186.adsl.metronet.co.uk) 01.28.51 Part pixelma 01.32.27 Quit bertrik (Remote closed the connection) 01.40.47 Quit Johan ("ChatZilla 0.9.83 [Firefox 3.0.1/2008070208]") 01.46.08 Join massiveH [0] (n=massiveH@pool-71-187-1-26.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net) 01.49.58 Join Johan [0] (n=chatzill@kkr-94-56-233-83.3.cust.bredband2.com) 01.53.17 Quit Johan (Client Quit) 01.53.35 Join LambdaCalculus37 [0] (i=40f1258c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-e60fc71a924fb5c1) 01.54.00 Join avis [0] (n=ident@pdpc/supporter/student/avis) 01.55.15 Quit krazykit ("Connection reset by beer") 02.01.30 Part Ebert 02.08.31 Quit saratoga ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 02.10.53 Join Lars_G [0] (n=Lars@ippool.ifxnetworks.com.ve) 02.10.56 # Hey all. 02.11.31 # Question, there is still no easy way to autosave position of podcasts/audiobooks even in queue mode. right? 02.11.50 Quit LambdaCalculus37 ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") 02.12.12 Quit tvelocity (Remote closed the connection) 02.16.17 # http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/CodecPerformanceComparison updated with today's build on iriver h340 02.17.30 # Btw another question, trying to build rbutil but rbutilqt is crying there's no rbspeex, but in ../tools/rbspeex it's compiled.... 02.19.17 Nick JdGordon|zzz is now known as JdGordon (n=jonno@rockbox/developer/JdGordon) 02.22.28 Join Rob2223 [0] (n=Miranda@p4FDCCEEF.dip.t-dialin.net) 02.32.49 # Hmm ok I had to regen Makefile 02.32.57 Quit Zarggg (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 02.41.08 Quit Rob2222 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 02.47.27 Quit herrwaldo ("Konversation terminated!") 02.49.54 # Ay there any easy way to convert an hfs ipod to an fat ipod from linux? 02.50.27 # Btw nice cleanup on the page's lefthand menu. 02.50.58 Quit massiveH ("Leaving") 02.51.36 # Oh i found the wiki article. let me read it 02.53.12 Join sarixe [0] (n=sarixe@ool-43540968.dyn.optonline.net) 02.56.39 Join BlackHawk [0] (n=BlackHaw@dof3.kyla.fi) 03.08.17 Quit HellDragon (No route to host) 03.10.06 Join HellDragon [0] (n=jd@modemcable234.136-203-24.mc.videotron.ca) 03.11.42 Join swears [0] (n=nnscript@ool-4356d08b.dyn.optonline.net) 03.12.12 # Can someone help me with editing a .wps file? 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I've got a big problem here 08.12.22 # i tried to uninstall rockbox to come back to the original firmware but now its all messed up and won'T load 08.13.07 # What played did you have, what steps did you perform to uninstall it, and what happens now? 08.13.28 # Llorean Sansa e260 08.13.45 # To Uninstall it, simply deleted the .rockbox folder 08.14.03 # You need to uninstall the bootloader to. 08.14.17 # Turn off your player, then plug in USB while it's off, then uninstall the bootloader. 08.14.25 # well it won't let me detect it with my computer unless it's on recovery mode 08.14.55 # Did you turn off your player, and plug it in while turned off? 08.15.12 # yes 08.15.19 # it just freezes on the "Sandisk" screen 08.15.30 # So you couldn't use USB at all with Rockbox installed? 08.15.33 # I also tried to put a file named "sansa.fmt" while in recovery mode 08.15.37 # yes I could 08.15.43 # Wait. 08.15.48 # until I lamely attempted to uninstall it 08.15.48 # You did stuff in recovery mode already? 08.15.54 # Sigh 08.16.04 # Experimenting is just going to make things worse. 08.16.04 # yes...that's what I found on the net to recover the firmware.... 08.16.04 # :S 08.16.13 # Removing the .rockbox folder just means it won't boot Rockbox any more. 08.16.17 # yes that's what I see 08.16.21 # You should've still been able to dual boot into the original firmware. 08.16.25 # But you broke that somehow 08.16.32 # ...yeah........ 08.16.56 # Now you need to put a clean firmware PP5022.MI4 in recovery mode. 08.17.11 # Wow, WMA speedup on PP5002 is even higher than on the other mentioned targets :) I measured ~30% speedup (152.7% -> 197.2% with my only wma file) 08.17.26 # Llorean ok...and how do i do this ? 08.17.51 # W4RP3D: Uhm? You already put a sansa.fmt on it, it's the same thing except you need a firmware file. 08.18.07 # You can use the official firmware update while in recovery mode, I believe. 08.18.12 # oh ok 08.18.16 # u mean the sansa updater ? 08.18.17 # amiconn: I believe he mentioned AAC can be improved similarly. 08.18.27 Join Rob2222 [0] (n=Miranda@p4FDCE286.dip.t-dialin.net) 08.18.31 # W4RP3D: I don't know what it's called, I don't use the original firmware... 08.18.42 # Also, please use real words while you're in our channel, no "u" or such 08.19.09 # ok no problem 08.20.31 # Llorean the updater software doesn't seem to work in recovery mode 08.20.45 # Llorean is there any place where I can find the firmware file ? 08.20.59 # W4RP3D: Probably linked from the SansaFAQ in the wiki 08.24.00 # Llorean As I can read in the wiki...i need to copy a .mi4 file ...but where can i find this file ? 08.24.41 # W4RP3D: I've told you I haven't needed to do this... I'm sure there's somewhere in the wiki that tells where they can be found. 08.25.09 # Llorean OK 08.29.13 # Llorean ! I Got IT ! :D 08.29.33 # o_O 08.29.46 # Using the Unbrick your Sansa e200 section 08.33.23 Quit GodEater ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") 08.34.32 # Well Thanks a lot for the Tips ! Have a good night ! 08.35.30 Quit W4RP3D () 08.35.36 Quit Rob2223 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 08.36.57 Part Dhraakellian ("Meddle not in the affairs of ircops, for they are (not so) subtle, and quick to anger.") 08.40.19 Join GodEater [0] (i=c2cbc962@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-3f64f4519afc9bf9) 08.57.27 Join ompaul [0] (n=ompaul@gnewsense/friend/ompaul) 08.58.54 Join saratoga [0] (n=9803c50e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-49af037da7f99a3e) 08.59.34 # the speed up from the new IMDCT on coldfire was much less on the official test samples then what PaulJam found with his test sample 08.59.41 # i see a few different sine/cosine value tables that some of the codecs use. sbagen.c generates a sine lookup table using sin(), i'm imaging a plugin port would just want to use a pre-coded sine table? 08.59.46 # i wouldn't have expected so much variation 09.00.09 # yes don't call sin in a loop 09.00.26 # either call it when you init everything to generate a lookup table, or just put the lookup in the code 09.03.12 # MU{lappy}: How much precision do you need? 09.03.30 # There's already a simple lookup-based fixed point sine implementation in the plugin lib 09.04.33 Nick JdGordon is now known as JdGordon|afk (n=jonno@rockbox/developer/JdGordon) 09.04.42 # i must've missed that, there's no "sin" or "sine" in plugin.h 09.04.57 # plugin *lib* 09.05.18 # No such thing in the core, as it's not needed there 09.06.14 # apps/plugins/lib/fixedpoint.[ch] 09.07.17 Join petur [50] (n=petur@rockbox/developer/petur) 09.09.59 Join davina [0] (n=davina@cpc1-sout6-0-0-cust616.sotn.cable.ntl.com) 09.13.05 # i'm looking now. sbagen uses it to generate pure tones, and there may be a number of them playing at any given time. is fsincos fast enough to use directly for synthesis, or should i be building a larger lookup table w/ it so that lookups can be direct instead of w/ rotation and iterative refinement? 09.13.55 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 09.16.01 Quit cool_walking_ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 09.16.23 # depends how often you're going to call it 09.16.36 # its quite slow, but if you only call it a few times per second it shouldn't matter 09.17.26 # a number of times per *sample*, so i'm thinking the best plan is to use it to build a lookup table as in the original src. 09.18.43 Quit davina (Remote closed the connection) 09.30.18 Quit ompaul (Client Quit) 09.40.40 # is there anybody with a CF modded h1x0 willing to put his bootloader online? 09.48.37 Join Nico_P [0] (i=53915df2@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-16fc23533bc2098d) 09.50.03 Join pixelma [50] (i=pixelma@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 10.07.02 Join bertrik [0] (n=bertrik@245-013-045-062.dynamic.caiway.nl) 10.08.01 Quit bertrik (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 10.10.05 # did anyone ever look at Tremorlo? 10.11.29 # its got its own ARM ASM optimized MDCT 10.11.45 Join bertrik [0] (n=bertrik@245-013-045-062.dynamic.caiway.nl) 10.12.22 # actually its got a lot of ARM ASM code 10.15.29 Join gromit` [0] (n=gromit@ALagny-154-1-68-187.w86-203.abo.wanadoo.fr) 10.15.41 Quit avis ("Leaving") 10.15.58 Join avis [0] (n=ident@pdpc/supporter/student/avis) 10.17.47 Join obo [0] (n=522e52e0@rockbox/developer/obo) 10.18.34 Join Horschti [0] (n=Horscht@p4FD4DA33.dip.t-dialin.net) 10.18.34 Quit saratoga ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 10.19.18 Quit Horscht (Nick collision from services.) 10.27.24 Join stumo [0] (n=7cbe4346@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-163954fd2fbc1ab3) 10.28.59 # Is there anyone here who can help me claim back soe of the RAM on my V1R in the latest daily builds, it only has 1.1Mb for mpeg buffer. 10.29.15 # soe=some 10.30.53 # Do you have either "directory cache" or "load database to RAM" enabled? (I'm not even 100% sure you can do both of those on Archos...) 10.32.59 # I will just check now, thanks. 10.33.43 # oh, where do I find those settings? 10.34.09 Join desowin [0] (n=desowin@atheme/member/desowin) 10.34.35 Quit bertrik (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 10.34.51 # linuxstb: you can't load the database to RAM on the Archoses, not so sure about dircache 10.35.03 # pixelma: I wasn't sure... 10.35.17 # I can't find dircache anywhere yet. 10.35.21 Join davina [0] (n=davina@cpc1-sout6-0-0-cust616.sotn.cable.ntl.com) 10.35.27 # I think it's something like System -> Disk 10.35.52 # (if it exists on Archos...) 10.36.13 # No only spindown shows there. 10.36.50 # But even if I do find it, are we talking about a gain of half a meg? like I get with an old version 2.5? 10.37.07 Join bertrik [0] (n=bertrik@245-013-045-062.dynamic.caiway.nl) 10.37.28 # Did you flash v2.5 ? (i.e. rombox) 10.37.29 # stumo: do you have - cuesheet support or lastfm support enabled (I believe they need a lot of RAM) and what's your "max files in directory" settings? 10.38.16 # max files is set t o150, I don't even know what lastfm is. 10.39.15 # and yes I did flash 2.5, but I have since flashed a recent daily. 10.40.15 # for what it's worth, I have about 1.29 MB of free buffer on my OndioFM which has a bit less settings and a bit smaller firmware file with a 1 week old build 10.40.35 # I found lastfm and it is set to "no" 10.41.12 # No dircache and no db-in-ram on archos 10.41.24 # Make sure you don't have insane limits set 10.41.32 # do you use the voice UI? 10.42.01 # Especially 'max files in dir' is memory hungry 10.42.18 # just checking now.... 10.42.31 # already said that it is set to 150 which doesn't seem insane to me 10.43.19 # mine is set to 100 10.43.37 # I have max playlist set to 11000 10.45.15 # I'm up to 1.368MB now, still would like a couple of hundred more k really. 10.46.31 # I think I get 1.8MB with v2.5 flashed - I know things have come a long way since then, but for general mp3 playing I need to maximise the buffer. 10.47.19 # Because the disk is spinning up and down every 20-30 seconds, whic hcan't be good. 10.48.46 Quit Horschti ("We don't make mistakes, we just have happy little accidents") 10.49.30 # At this stage I'm thinking to reflash 2.5 for general duties, then load a late daily if I need to do some of the cool extra stuff, does that sound like a good plan? 10.49.41 # you can't really compare running version 2.5 from ROM with running a recent version from RAM 10.50.06 # stumo: do you use the database? 10.50.16 # No I flashed a recent one. 10.51.10 # I tried the database, but it is kind of too slow to be useful, and it locks-out the device while it "commits" if you switch off then on for ages. 10.51.33 # I have 80GB of mp3s. 10.52.24 # If I understand correctly (I'm sure pixelma or amiconn will correct me), recent Rockbox versions for the AJBR are too big to be flashed - so you would have flashed a compressed version of the firmware, which is then copied to RAM and executed from there. 2.5 would have run directly from ROM. 10.52.44 # yes, but you didn't flash a recent version to ROM (this would mean using the rombox.ucl which is not present in recent builds because Rockbox became to big). Are you able to compile your own builds? 10.52.46 # So you don't gain RAM by flashing - just a faster boot time. 10.52.50 Join Divadmils [0] (n=60e400a3@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-0e51e3358eb2f9a8) 10.53.17 # wats up guys 10.53.33 # any talk yet of a build for Sansa Fuze? 10.54.03 # pixelma: not set up to build anymore, I'm the guy who has been away for 4 or so years who you helped out last week. 10.54.05 Quit Divadmils (Client Quit) 10.54.09 Join Divadmils [0] (n=60e400a3@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-220704aa5dd008bb) 10.54.30 # any talk yet of a build for Sansa Fuze? 10.54.36 # Divadmils: There has been talk I think, but probably not much more than that. The "New Ports" forum should contain any news. 10.54.48 # okay thanks 10.56.09 # pixelma: I flashed "rockbox.ucl" which was in the .rockbox dir, then I deleted the ajbrec that was in the root dir. I used the fancy new installer program to update to the latest daily - very slick. 10.57.32 # so if what linuxstb said about it being decompressed into RAM then I'm kind of grasping aren't I? 10.57.38 # stumo: I was asking because there is a way to build Rockbox without the database to make it small enough for rombox but this means you need to compile your own 10.57.50 # I want to add embedded lyrics viewing. Do we have some simple text viewing 'widget' used anywhere? 10.58.26 # markun: Just the list widget I think - but that might be enough for you... 10.58.44 # linuxstb: yes, should work 10.59.23 # pixelma: Oh cool, so if I get set up to build I can gain a decent chunk of buffer, and keep the cool features that I actually use then. Is it just a #define for the database support? 10.59.30 # markun: Isn't there already a plugin for that (sncviewer or something)... ? 10.59.58 Quit k4y (Nick collision from services.) 11.00.08 Join k4y_ [0] (n=jackass@dsl-243-98-197.telkomadsl.co.za) 11.00.41 # linuxstb: I could take a look at that yes :) 11.00.59 # I'll try to quickly finish this and then look at their implementation 11.01.19 # stumo: yes (and without the database). See http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/RomBox , should give you an overview 11.01.26 # markun: How are you handling memory allocation? 11.02.12 # linuxstb: I was hoping it would not be a problem because of MoB 11.02.14 # linuxstb, markun: I believe there were 2 related patches in the tracker 11.02.55 # pixelma: thanks for your help.. again. Cheers. 11.04.52 # I'm thinking of creating a wiki page about sansa c200 and e200 charging, any suggestions for a good page name? how about simply SansaCharging? 11.05.13 Join num1 [0] (n=brian@c-68-63-193-45.hsd1.az.comcast.net) 11.06.01 Quit stumo ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 11.08.56 # about the fuze..why cant some1 create a downgrader to flash the firmware to a version 1 then simply create a build for it? 11.09.06 # or make a custom firmware? 11.11.01 # Are you volunteering? :) 11.11.30 # it seems simple enough until you get into the actual process :/ 11.11.56 # no one has been able to crack this firm yet 11.13.56 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 11.16.01 Quit Divadmils ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 11.16.29 Join webguest22 [0] (n=60e400a3@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-3a783f7f51783150) 11.16.31 Quit webguest22 (Client Quit) 11.16.40 # Which target was Divadmils talking about? 11.16.42 Join Divadmils [0] (n=60e400a3@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-335757da0806119b) 11.16.59 # The Sansa Fuze isn't the same hardware as any supported targets. 11.17.08 # I don't see what a "downgrader" would be, or do. 11.17.42 # yea but u could replace it with the firmware from an older model 11.19.10 # The hardware is entirely differen.t 11.19.16 # Any other firmware wouldn't be able to control it. 11.20.20 # true 11.20.39 # just throwin out suggestions 11.21.26 # not to point out my ignorance, but why do you need to change the firmware? 11.21.29 # I mean no offense, but why not do some research and then perhaps come up with a reasonable plan. Throwing out random suggestions that make no sense at all isn't going to do anyone any good. 11.22.17 # i was thinkin that if u use a different firmware then it would be easier to creat a build for it 11.22.25 # guess not :) 11.22.42 # Rockbox doesn't use any part of the original firmware. 11.23.29 # yes i know but it would be easier to find the recovery mode making it easier to do a trial and erroe scenario 11.23.32 # The only time the original firmware matters, at all, is figuring out enough of its upgrade process so we can get it to upgrade to our own code. If there were a way to "downgrade" it, why wouldn't we just downgrade it to our own code anyway? 11.23.38 # error 11.24.27 # so i guess we gotta wait for an upgrade before anything can be done? 11.24.34 # No. 11.25.00 # There doesn't need to be an official upgrade for someone to figure out how to get it to run our own code. 11.25.02 Quit davina (Remote closed the connection) 11.25.10 # What needs to happen is people actually working on it. 11.25.16 Quit midgey () 11.25.25 Join davina [0] (n=davina@cpc1-sout6-0-0-cust616.sotn.cable.ntl.com) 11.25.37 # Pure and simple: There really aren't many, or possibly any, Vuze owners doing much in the way of real investigation. 11.25.55 # true. but wouldnt it take less time if there were an official upgrade 11.26.01 # yea your right 11.26.05 # no 11.26.19 # An official upgrade might make it take less time, or it might not. 11.26.26 # oh 11.26.30 # It entirely depends on the hardware and software decisions made. 11.27.03 # I guess you could reverse the official upgrade to see how the update is done, but it's just a different way of solving a problem, both require people working 11.27.33 # so if we look at an older model like the e200 it wouldnt tell anything bc its different hardware? 11.27.40 # right 11.27.47 # gotcha 11.28.17 Join ap0 [0] (i=kvirc@nfb68-1-88-169-81-101.fbx.proxad.net) 11.28.21 Quit ap0 (Remote closed the connection) 11.28.35 Join faemir [0] (n=faemir@88-106-180-165.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) 11.29.09 # if u had to guess how long do u think it would take to do after an official upgrade comes out? 11.30.05 # I have no expertise or even minor dabbling in the area, but I'd guess a month or two if you had some dedicated people working on it 11.30.39 # num1: if sandisk has some didicate people working on it you mean 11.30.39 # the problem is finding people willing to put time into it 11.30.52 # ah never mind :) 11.31.58 # a month or two is incredibly optimistic - even for targets where we have full hardware documentation, it's about a year to get a functioning port going 11.33.12 # i just checked the site and they have an upgrade already..http://www.sandisk.com/Retail/Default.aspx?CatID=1376 11.33.28 # Divadmils: It doesn't matter. 11.33.30 # its the firmware updater 11.33.35 # why not? 11.33.37 # As I tried to say, there's nobody working on it. 11.33.44 # oh right 11.33.58 # Even if there were, there's absolutely no guarantee an update will reveal anything useful. 11.34.00 Join PaulJam [0] (i=PaulJam_@vpn-3071.gwdg.de) 11.34.16 # then i better get started huh? 11.34.22 # Divadmils, you seem to really want this, I wish you much luck 11.34.24 # If you want to see a port happen, find somewhere where people already own the player, and try to get them interested. 11.34.38 # i own one 11.34.45 # Generally speaking, work gets done by people who already like the player. 11.34.49 # then you're halfway there :D 11.34.50 # and my friend has one too 11.35.29 # Divadmils: this is a good place to start: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/NewPort 11.35.54 # okay 11.36.50 # how long does it usually take to build the cross-compiler? 11.37.06 # the script's been running on my comp for a good 10 mins now 11.37.12 # depends on the speed. 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It's some additional strings for the Spanish translation. 15.05.30 Quit Hidden (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 15.06.08 Quit sdubois92 ("leaving") 15.14.00 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 15.21.25 # LambdaCalculus37: I will have a look at it a bit later; when I will have few minutes (I'm working) 15.24.01 Quit amiconn (Nick collision from services.) 15.24.06 Join amiconn [50] (n=jens@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 15.26.05 Nick Lear is now known as Lear_ (i=chatzill@rockbox/developer/lear) 15.26.07 # LambdaCalculus37: Bookmarks also need to know which file to resume, and as I understand it they do that at the moment by going to an index for a file with a directory 15.26.34 # If you have added or deleted files before the file to resume, the index will point at the wrong file 15.26.43 Nick Lear_ is now known as Lear (i=chatzill@rockbox/developer/lear) 15.26.43 # * BigBambi hopes he isn't talking rubbish here 15.27.31 # moos: Hi. I was wondering why you closed this task - http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/8965 - IIUC, it should be trivial to sync it to preglow's changes 15.27.57 # BigBambi: Well, yes and no. :) Directory resume is index based, but it does also check the name, and if there's a mismatch, it tries to find the right file by name. 15.28.05 # ah OK 15.28.11 # * BigBambi adds that too 15.28.17 # BigBambi and Lear: Thanks for explaining it. :) 15.29.17 Join kushal_12_27_200 [0] (n=kushal@c-67-173-249-88.hsd1.co.comcast.net) 15.29.39 Nick Lear is now known as Lear_ (i=chatzill@rockbox/developer/lear) 15.37.59 Quit Thundercloud (Remote closed the connection) 15.40.06 # linuwstb: indeed, I will reopen it hen and have a look at it if I can change it while on it 15.40.18 # linuxstb sorry 15.41.09 # moos: OK, no problem. 15.41.55 # thanks to pointed it 15.59.38 Join domonoky [0] (n=Domonoky@rockbox/developer/domonoky) 16.00.16 Join fdinel [0] (n=Miranda@modemcable204.232-203-24.mc.videotron.ca) 16.02.09 Quit XavierGr (Nick collision from services.) 16.02.21 Join XavierGr [0] (n=xavier@rockbox/staff/XavierGr) 16.04.31 Quit obo ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 16.08.46 Nick Lear_ is now known as Lear (i=chatzill@rockbox/developer/lear) 16.09.12 Join obo [0] (n=522e52e0@rockbox/developer/obo) 16.10.40 Join jgarvey [0] (n=jgarvey@cpe-098-026-069-229.nc.res.rr.com) 16.11.50 # bleh, my sansa e260 froze again 16.12.09 # this time, it froze in the middle of playing a MP3, but the "now playing" screen shows that it's right at the end of the previous song 16.12.21 # and that the song it froze in the middle of is the next song 16.12.37 # the only controls that work are hitting a button to turn the screen on 16.12.43 # and holding power for 10s to force a poweroff 16.22.06 Join Cripps [0] (n=Cripps@entropy.qnx.com) 16.25.13 # agaffney: do you know how to reproduce this behaviour? 16.25.50 # unfortunately, no 16.25.56 # it keeps freezing like this at random times 16.26.15 # it did it with a build from 5-6 weeks ago and a build from about a week ago 16.26.53 # Have you checked your disk for errors (e.g. using something like chkdsk or fsck) ? 16.27.26 # yes, with both 16.27.34 # chkdsk on windows shows everything's fine 16.27.50 # fsck.vfat complains about the MBR not matching the backup but never actually fixes it 16.28.07 # and then exits with some error about a value being different than what it expected at some location 16.28.11 # very vague 16.28.17 # and never an opportunity to fix 16.28.46 # Are you using "chkdsk /f" ? (I'm not sure what that does, but it's what I've read other people suggest) 16.29.06 # yes 16.29.18 # on windows, 'chkdsk /f' shows everything's clean 16.29.24 # btw, /f just tells chkdsk to fix the problems 16.29.30 # instead of just telling you about them 16.32.58 # What exactly are you doing? i.e. how do you select the MP3s to be played? 16.36.51 # Database -> All Artists -> All Tracks 16.36.58 # and then hit the Play button 16.37.14 # I did that yesterday 16.37.20 # turned it off and on a few times 16.37.23 # skipped a few songs 16.37.31 # normal use 16.39.52 # agaffney: please place complete thoughts on one line...it is much harder to read when you are using the enter button as punctuation 16.40.05 # heh, sorry 16.40.12 # I'm usually much better about that 16.40.28 # I'm usually the one yelling at other people about that ;) 16.40.47 # well... 16.41.45 # is the ipod video with the 80Gig drive supported/usable? On the device chart it only lists the 40/60 Gig models of the "iPod Video" (aka iPod gen 5); 16.42.23 # Cripps: I think you may be confused a little bit. 16.42.28 # Cripps: what's the link you're looking at ? 16.42.37 # The iPod video is available in 30, 60, and 80GB capacities. 16.42.54 # here: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/DeviceChart and here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IPod 16.43.23 # * GodEater will update the chart 16.43.31 # oops, : %s/40/30/ 16.43.36 # ;) 16.43.41 # hmm, no I won't 16.43.45 # * LambdaCalculus37 will do that 16.43.48 # LambdaCalculus37 bet me to it ;) 16.43.51 # agaffney: Saying "normal use" doesn't help us... I'm trying to find a pattern in your so-called "random" crashes (random is very hard for computers to do...) 16.43.53 # s/bet/beat 16.44.04 # :) 16.44.06 # thanks 16.45.03 # linuxstb: like I said, my normal use is to start with "Database -> All Artists -> All Tracks", select a song, and just let it play, ocassionally skipping a song or two here or there. I'll also turn it off and leave it in my car and turn it back on and hit play when I get back in the car 16.45.15 # linuxstb: that's pretty much the full extent 16.45.20 # GodEater: Done. 16.45.41 # I did a database update yesterday after removing some music, but I had this problem before the database update 16.46.11 Quit kushal_12_27_200 (No route to host) 16.46.17 # there you go Cripps, it's now official ;) 16.46.24 # thanks for pointing out our error for us 16.46.43 # GodEater, any way I can help :) 16.46.56 # agaffney: When do the problems appear? e.g. always after you resume the playlist (pressing play after turning back on), or before that, or both? Is it ever in the first couple of songs you play, or later? 16.47.19 # linuxstb: I don't think it's ever happened on the first song after a resume 16.47.25 # it's always after a few songs 16.47.31 # this morning, it was after 10-15 16.47.57 # Cripps: Just curious... is your iPod indeed an iPod video? Or is it an iPod Classic? 16.48.03 # agaffney: What about before the resume? i.e. between the time you first create the playlist, and when you power off? 16.48.11 # linuxstb: and it doesn't always freeze on a particular song 16.48.21 # I can turn it off and back on, and play that song again without issue 16.48.31 Join midgey [0] (n=tjross@c-71-205-31-207.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) 16.48.32 # LambdaCalculus37, I don't have one yet ... I'm scoping out an investment before I buy one ;) 16.48.48 # linuxstb: not entirely sure, since I don't create a new play list often, but I don't think it's happened then 16.49.07 # Cripps: Just a heads up, then... the new iPod Classics are incompatible, so go onto eBay and get an iPod video. 16.49.31 # LambdaCalculus37, yeah, I sort of figured I'd have to go out and find an older device,. 16.49.33 # I'd by something other than an ipod to use Rockbox on 16.49.39 # *buy 16.49.51 # BigBambi's right, Cripps. 16.49.51 # BigBambi, any suggestions of something with similar storage capacity? 16.50.07 # * LambdaCalculus37 whips out his Gigabeat S60 16.50.10 # Cripps: The gigabeat F60 16.50.12 # I've got an iAudio X5 right now, but it's got some issues. 16.50.22 # (or when it is better supported the S60) 16.50.22 # Cripps: What's wrong with your X5? 16.50.36 # The X5 is better for Rockbox than an iPod 16.50.39 # LambdaCalculus37, hold on and I'll finish typing it ;) 16.50.49 # agaffney: What bitrate are your mp3 files? Are they generally quite low (e.g. 128kbps)? 16.51.05 # I've got an iAudio x5 (the 20Gig model) running rockbox (r17058-080409), and my display has an odd sort of corruption. Yesterday my display started "rolling" horizontally, and then switched to just a plain grey, resetting the device hasn't fixed it, and I can't tell if it's just the firmware because I haven't had the opportunity to replace it with the cowan firmware yet. 16.51.17 # *poof* a pre-typed description of the problem :P 16.51.29 # That's an old build 16.51.31 # Have you tried updating your build? 16.51.33 # linuxstb: it's a mix...CBR 128, CBR 196, and VBR 16.51.40 # It is always worth trying with a new one first 16.52.01 # But yes, you need to check if it is there in the OF too 16.52.06 # BigBambi, k. Well, that'll have to wait until I get home and find the AC adapter first. 16.52.32 Join EspeonEefi [0] (i=espeonee@30-7-18.wireless.csail.mit.edu) 16.52.41 # Cripps: Have you looked at www.rockbox.org/wiki/BuyersGuide 16.52.41 # the issue has happened before, but iirc, it's *magically* resolved itself. 16.52.53 # Without changing build? 16.52.57 # BigBambi, I actually didn't know that page existed, so I'll go look at it. 16.53.08 # BigBambi, yeah, without changing build. 16.53.22 # buying a new target seems an extreme way to fix what could be a software issue 16.53.34 # Yes, I'd check the OF first 16.53.43 # yeah, but I'm also keeping my eye out for something with more storage space anyways. 16.53.44 # If it is a Rockbox issue, it is fixable :) 16.53.50 # yep :) 16.53.58 # you don't need an AC adapter "just" the subpack and an USB cable to update the Rockbox build but it indeed sounds more like a hardware issue 16.54.00 # Cripps: you could always just upgrade the hard drive in the device 16.54.31 # pixelma, right ... the AC adapter is only needed for the bootloader ... silly me. 16.54.48 # GodEater, know any docs for how to do that with the x5? 16.54.57 # Cripps: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/HardDriveReplacement 16.55.19 # agaffney: What I think could be useful is if you copied about 20 random files into a directory by themselves, and then (using the file browser) played that directory of files (without shuffle), and see if you can recreate the problem. My guess is that there is something Rockbox doesn't like about some of your files, and it also depends on how that file is buffered in RAM (which depends on it's position in a playlist). So when you resume 16.55.19 # a track that froze, it's being loaded at the start of the buffer, and works fine there. 16.55.53 # Cripps: And I'm sure you can find stuff on google for what you have to do to open, if there is any odd firmware steps etc 16.56.18 # BigBambi, yeah, that shouldn't be an issue, thanks. 16.57.26 # damn ... no drives large enough, small enough, in a 50 pin connector :/ 16.57.53 # People have used an adaptor in a gigabeat F, but I have no idea if there is enough space in a X5 16.58.14 # Cripps: http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=17683.0 17.00.04 # BigBambi, I don't think there's enough room in the x5 ... in the x5L there would be (sacrificing one of the battery cells), but I don't have one o dems :( 17.00.23 # It wouldn't surprise me, no 17.00.46 Quit petur ("connection reset by beer") 17.04.20 # linuxstb: this one sounds "fun" :) 17.04.30 # :o 17.04.44 # I just updated the build, and it worked. 17.04.46 # agaffney: Yes, that's one way to describe Rockbox's playback code... 17.04.46 Join toffe82 [0] (n=chatzill@h-74-0-180-178.snvacaid.covad.net) 17.04.55 # :D 17.05.02 # linuxstb: heh 17.05.27 # BigBambi, thanks for the help :) 17.05.42 # * Nico_P confirms: playback code is pure fun 17.06.07 # Nico_P: How's your "no buffer" hack coming along? 17.06.08 # * Cripps confirms that inline asm is fun 17.06.09 # Cripps: No problems 17.06.53 # linuxstb: it plays OK, but will eventually crash 17.07.08 # I've only spent two short evenings on it 17.07.51 # How long does it work before crashing? Can it play more than one track? 17.08.13 # yes... I think the issue is with file descriptor abuse 17.09.45 # the thing is it wastes much of the data it reads from the disk/flash 17.10.03 # at least that's what I saw with MP3 17.11.27 Quit midgey () 17.13.38 Quit Nico_P ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") 17.14.03 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 17.14.45 # on the docsindex there is a link to the flyspray how to, and a link to a description of flyspray, but there is no link to flyspray in either of those docs; How can I access/search through flyspray? 17.17.32 # Cripps: It is the bugs and patches links on the left of the page 17.18.09 # BigBambi, thanks. 17.18.53 # agaffney: A playback bug was fixed a week ago... Is your build before or after that? 17.19.26 # probably just before 17.20.19 # Lear: how long did this playback bug exist, because I've been seeing this problem for 6+ weeks 17.21.26 # Quite some time. I don't remember exactly when I first saw it, may have been a couple of months ago. 17.21.44 # well, I'll definitely try updating today then 17.21.49 # I'd be quite happy if that fixed it 17.22.08 # other than these freezes, I'm loving rockbox 17.22.51 # Lear: do you know what revision that bug was fixed in? 17.22.59 # r18009 17.24.27 # hmm, I never said what svn revision I was using with the update from a week ago 17.24.33 # but I know it was very low 18000 17.24.38 # perhaps 18005-ish 17.25.08 # actually, I'll just check :P 17.25.51 # hmm, I'm currently running 18009 17.25.57 # * linuxstb forgot to say the old line of "please check with the latest build"... 17.26.30 # I just wish this was easily reproducible, so I could quickly check if a build fixes it :P 17.29.05 # I just updated to r18085 and I'm just going to let it play 17.29.25 Join Nico_P [50] (n=nicolas@rockbox/developer/NicoP) 17.32.09 # If the bug is similar in nature (a corrupt buffer handle), a custom build with some validation code could help. 17.35.07 Join MethoS- [0] (n=clemens@host-091-096-212-228.ewe-ip-backbone.de) 17.35.07 Join Rasi [0] (n=carnager@e181160193.adsl.alicedsl.de) 17.35.09 # hi 17.35.18 # does rockbox support the sandisk e260 player? 17.35.27 # its not mentioned on the webpage.. only the e200 17.35.31 Part Cripps ("Leaving") 17.35.36 # That is the e200 series 17.35.40 # http://www.rockbox.org 17.35.42 # so it works? 17.35.44 # cool 17.35.45 # Yes. 17.35.50 # can i flash it from linux? 17.35.52 # As long as it is v1 17.35.54 # yes 17.36.03 # Rasi: What is the firmware version on your Sansa? 17.36.16 # Rasi: The manual is a lovely thing, hand crafted with the sweat of ages 17.36.51 # Rasi: Fermented in fine oak barrels throughout the fields of Europe and the U.S... ;) 17.37.35 # wow, I want _that_ manual. 17.37.49 # not this crummy wiki thing. 17.37.59 # massiveH: Luckily for you, even after all this effort, we give it away 17.38.06 # v03.01.11e 17.38.12 # thats the firmware 17.38.19 # It is quite hidden though, under the manual link of every page 17.38.26 # Rasi: That is a v2 and won't work 17.38.31 # damn 17.38.38 # * massiveH goes in search of "The Manual" 17.38.50 # any chance it might one day? 17.38.58 # Rasi: When people work on the port. 17.39.07 # Sure, if interested owners do the work 17.39.22 # I would say it probably will be, but no guarantees on that, or when 17.44.42 Quit Llorean (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 17.45.50 Join Llorean [0] (n=DarkkOne@adsl-70-241-16-179.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net) 17.50.56 Join Rasi_ [0] (n=carnager@e182049016.adsl.alicedsl.de) 17.51.45 Quit BigBambi ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") 17.52.25 Join MethoS_ [0] (n=clemens@dyndsl-085-016-160-093.ewe-ip-backbone.de) 17.54.49 Quit GodEater ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") 18.01.30 Quit Rasi (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 18.06.27 # hi 18.06.37 # it's so quiet in here 18.06.38 # anyway 18.07.03 # can we attach images directly in the wiki, instead of linking to other websites? 18.07.13 # and before someone asks for clarification, 18.07.38 # I mean is it better to attach directly, or better to link to other websites? 18.07.51 # I think it's better to attach the images directly because then we have a static archive 18.08.07 # this is especially important for pictures of players' internals 18.08.34 Quit MethoS- (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 18.09.22 # it depends...something like player's internals should definitely be attached (was that really worth 8 lines?) 18.13.00 # ok :) 18.13.12 # as for your question: definitely 18.13.13 # :D 18.13.25 Join Mathiasdm [0] (n=Mathias@vpne088.ugent.be) 18.16.05 # I want to upload photos for Onda players: VX757, VX767 and VX777 18.16.13 # should I create a new page for each? 18.20.26 Join nplus [0] (n=nplus@141.25.Globcom.Net) 18.23.55 # wpyh: If they're really similar to one another, that may be a waste. You could put them on one page. Something like "OndaVXHardwareInfo" would work. 18.24.54 # LambaCalculus37: good idea 18.25.10 Join Spindizy [0] (n=spindizy@et-0-2.gw-nat.slr.lxa.oneandone.net) 18.26.10 # Hell everyone, I have a question. I upgraded my ipod nano to the daily build of rockbox.. and of course.. my themes broke.. Downloaded new themes, still broke.. I cant figure out what I need to change in order to fix them (Not a retard, but just never messed with themes..) Any ideas? 18.26.34 # hm... maybe OndaVX7x7 is better 18.27.15 # ? 18.27.25 # Spindizy: There have been some changes to the WPS syntax. Basically, we now have conditional viewports. 18.27.36 Join MXIIA [0] (n=mxiia@c-71-57-152-118.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) 18.27.51 # Spindizy: http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=17507.0 18.27.54 # You can either go look for themes that have been fixed, or read this page: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/CustomWPS and follow along. 18.29.02 # what software is the wiki using? 18.32.55 # Jesus.. Ive been to the CustomWPS page.. and unless im missing something blatantly obvious.. I dont know what im supposed to be changing in the theme itself.. I have also downloaded themes from www.rockbox-themes.org that say they work with any daily build.. They still dont work right. 18.33.23 # ive been using rockbox for over 3 years now. 18.33.29 # ive just never made a theme for it. 18.34.21 # Quite personally.. I think this is going to hinder rockbox's progress with "Mainstream" individuals.. People want to download things and have them work.. 18.34.28 # This is quite frustrating. 18.34.30 # heh 18.35.08 # yea, I tried some themes from that site... glitchy... I've used RB for about a month now :p 18.35.36 # Really tho, None of the themes I like, work.. And I redownloaded them ALL.. They still dont work. 18.36.21 # there were some changes to the wps code in rockbox lastly, so those themes need to be updated... 18.36.41 # and who cares about "mainstream" ? :-) 18.36.55 # The community should, honestly. 18.36.59 # Spindizy: almost all themes on that site are broken (and can't be updated currently). On the WpsGallery page in the wiki you are more likely to find a working theme 18.37.12 # Thanks PaulJam_ 18.37.36 # and the rockbox-themes site still awaits his successor ... *hint to linuxstb? * 18.38.22 # linuxstb? 18.38.42 # oh nvm 18.39.40 # heh 18.43.05 Quit Vorador ("Ex-Chat") 18.44.42 # Welp, PHK1, Cabbie3nano, and Aurora_EN all DO NOT work from the wpsgallery page. 18.44.58 # the only working one I found that I can stand comes with it now.. and thats cabbiev2 18.45.07 # so I guess thats what Im stuck with for now. 18.45.14 # cabbie3 works on mine 18.45.16 # is there a wiki page describing the changes made to WPS format? 18.45.21 # it is relatively simple to fix them... 18.46.25 # it is relatively simple to fix them for someone that "understands" the change.. I first of all, do not understand exactly what changed in the syntax.. and 2ndly.. im at work.. I dont have time to go thru it.. and im busy after work.. I dont have time to do it. So it may be simple for you to do it. but currently, for me it is not. 18.46.30 # scorche|sh: not neccessarily. if the WPS contains %m tags it might not be trivial to fix. 18.46.55 Quit obo ("CGI:IRC") 18.47.07 # Quite personally, I think this was a very irresponsible codebase. decision 18.47.27 Join robin0800 [0] (n=robin080@cpc2-brig8-0-0-cust394.brig.cable.ntl.com) 18.48.24 # Why would you impliment a change thats going to break 95% of the themes out there.. and especially not provide some sort of method to fix it OTHER THAN "Go read the wiki" 18.48.35 # I mean, if there was a conversion tool that could handle the easier fixes 18.48.40 # I'd be cool with it. 18.48.51 # but I dont even see that. 18.48.56 # and that sorta pisses me off. 18.49.02 # Spindizy: not necessarily, by changing the format they might have increased speed, ease of use (have you evere tried to write one...), code size, there's plenty of reasons 18.49.23 # Doing any of the above mentioned would be worth changing the format IMO 18.49.32 # No, i havent tried to write one.. thats the whole reason im here.. because if i had i'd probably be fixing my themes. 18.50.00 # Here, which one specifically are you trying to use? I'll see if I can fix it up for you 18.50.08 # It would be worth it for you num1.. but its not worth it for people who hate apple firmware and want to use something better, but dont have the foggiest clue how to change anything in a theme file. 18.50.17 # Spindizy: there is a perl script to fix the progressbar syntax available: http://svn.rockbox.org/viewvc.cgi?view=rev;revision=17759 18.51.03 # num1: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/viewfile/Main/WpsIpodNano?rev=1;filename=Aurora_EN.zip 18.51.06 # but that will only fix the theme if it doesn't contain additional %m tags 18.51.25 # well.. thats a start at least. 18.51.37 # * Spindizy wonders if he installed perl in cygwin. 18.52.18 # im honestly really surprised one of the community script kiddies hasnt written something in VB to do this yet. 18.52.55 # im gonna step outside for a second.. I appreciate the help num1.. i'll be back in 10. 18.52.59 # i don't think here are many "script kiddies" around 18.53.11 # where'd you find that? do you have a file that has the wps and not just screenshots? 18.53.27 Join DaCapn [0] (n=dacapn@nemo.csn.tu-chemnitz.de) 18.53.52 # hey the screenhot looks kinda cool though... 18.55.02 # o... ignore my last question... I was just being an idiot :D 18.55.03 # Spindizy: projects move to new formats/methods/etc all the time...i dont see why you are having such an issue with it...this is just an adjusting period...viewports is a pretty big change that can enable people to do much more 18.55.24 Join shotofadds [0] (n=rob@rockbox/developer/shotofadds) 18.55.27 Join midgey [0] (n=tjross@c-71-205-31-207.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) 18.55.28 Quit shotofadds (Connection reset by peer) 18.55.41 Join shotofadds [0] (n=rob@rockbox/developer/shotofadds) 19.01.00 Quit moos (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 19.02.37 # omg.. i work with f'ing idiots. 19.04.29 # scorche|sh: I have a problem with anything that breaks something thats worked for 3 years.. and theres no good fix for it. 19.05.06 # well, I don't have a nano to test this on, but try http://pastebin.com/d4ab5c1f7 as your "Auroa EN.wps" and see what happens 19.07.05 Join GodEater [50] (n=bryan@rockbox/staff/GodEater) 19.07.12 # (If Spindizy declares that it works can I have wiki write permision to update the wps?) 19.07.49 # getting it now. 19.08.14 # num1: what is the name of that file supposed to be? 19.08.45 # num1: Did you register on the wiki already? 19.09.26 # Spindizy: so should we not ever move to new, better systems?...it isnt really something that is scriptable 19.09.28 # save it as "Aurora EN.wps" and replace the Aurora EN.wps that's already in the there at .rockbox/wps/ 19.09.39 # yea, I just did, as BrianCloutier 19.10.40 # num1: unfortunatey the theme doesn't seem to be under a license that allows modification. :( 19.11.04 # PaulJam_: well, it can be modified...it just cant be distributed in a modified state ;) 19.11.14 # what about letting him post a link to his fix? 19.11.49 # he can put a patch up, sure...or tell people how to modify it 19.11.55 # * shotofadds thinks these broken and unmodifiable themes could be moved to a "ThemesGraveyard" page to avoid confusing people in future 19.12.08 # * LambdaCalculus37 seconds shotofadds' idea 19.12.20 # * scorche|sh looks over at linuxstb 19.12.31 # he's got quite an audience now :p 19.12.39 # i know how he feels 19.12.40 # ;) 19.12.41 # * LambdaCalculus37 gives scorche|sh a pointy stick 19.12.53 # Ignore my ignorance PaulJarn, it looks like it's not under a license at all 19.13.46 Join BigBambi [0] (n=Alex@rockbox/staff/BigBambi) 19.14.06 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 19.15.22 # you most certainly fixed it num1 19.15.24 # good job. 19.15.42 # Spindizy: Thank you, I hope you enjoy using it 19.16.00 Quit MethoS_ (Remote closed the connection) 19.16.01 # i do, the only glitch is, theres some stacked stuff in the upper left. 19.16.17 # and one thing is 19.16.19 # the progress bar. 19.16.21 # is at the top 19.16.28 # instead of at the bottom where its supposed to be 19.16.28 # Spindizy: can you describe that more clearly? 19.16.36 # the progress bar starts behind the battery icon 19.16.37 # heh 19.16.43 # Spindizy: So you're saying I didn't fix it? :D 19.16.57 # Well 19.16.59 # it loads. 19.17.03 # but its got bugs :) 19.17.40 # lol, here, let me take another look, can you send me a screenshot of the new 'buggy' version or describe exectely what's stacked? 19.17.41 # Spindizy: please dont use the enter key as punctuation...it makes things harder to read and just fills up the logs 19.18.04 # Sorry. 19.18.05 # s/exectely/exactely 19.18.36 # s/exactely/exactly 19.19.04 # num1: instead of being in the lower middle of the screen, the progress bar starts in the upper middle.. behind the battery icon. 19.19.56 # the progress bar runs right thru the middle of the words "Now Playing" 19.20.24 Join miepchen^schlaf [0] (n=miepchen@p54BF7769.dip.t-dialin.net) 19.21.30 Quit davina (Remote closed the connection) 19.23.44 # Spindizy: try the following, open the .wps file with a text editor and replace the line starting with %pb with the following: %pb|ProgressBar.bmp|8|86|159|8| 19.23.55 # Is the progress bar the only thing that's wierd? 19.24.04 # seems to be. 19.24.05 Join davina [0] (n=davina@cpc1-sout6-0-0-cust616.sotn.cable.ntl.com) 19.24.48 Join moos [0] (i=moos@81-66-127-198.rev.numericable.fr) 19.25.14 # yeah, that fixed it num1 19.25.57 # so, my question is.. how trivial of a fix was that. 19.26.48 # Trivial enough that *anyone* who wanted to could fix it. 19.26.54 # lol, that was an incredibly trivial fix, but it allowed you to have multiple (up to 3) status bars on the same WPS, along with 24 viewpoints 19.27.17 # yeah, I just double checked it, %pb|ProgressBar.bmp|8|86|159|8| is what you should use 19.27.55 # well, now that I have your fix.. and the origional, I can diff them and see what you did.. So that when I get some time i'll try to fix my own. 19.28.14 # lol, it's a two line difference Spindizy 19.28.14 # your help is much appreciated :) 19.28.39 # either way, thanks. 19.29.28 # for my brain, its easier to see it laid out like that, then spend a bunch of time reading up on the new syntax and guessing. 19.29.41 # Spindizy: No problem, just try to bash the system a little less next time please, the developers think very carefully about every decision they make, especially ones that change formats like this 19.30.20 # im not bashing the system.. I bashed ONE decision. Overall, im happy with rockbox.. thats why I get so excited about it when things dont work. 19.30.42 # LambdeCalculus37: Did you reach a decision on the Wiki write permission? I'm pretty certain you can post a modified copy, or there's no copyright notice in the wiki right now 19.30.54 # Im still not happy with a decision that breaks things like this.. because Ive turned on a lot of people to rockbox, who will have no idea how to fix that. 19.31.36 # I understand why the decision was made, i just think it could possibly have been made a little more elegant. 19.31.36 # num1: I think you should try contacting the original author of the WPS and asking them if it's okay to post a modified version, just to be safe. 19.31.58 # LambdaCalculus37: okay, will do 19.34.18 Join Mathiasdm2 [0] (n=Mathias@vpnb195.ugent.be) 19.37.59 # LambdaCalculus37: I just checked there's no e-mail address on his user page, and I don't know enough arabic to find his address on his personal page 19.38.20 # s/his/'the person who made the wps' 19.38.48 # Hmmm... 19.40.05 # Spindizy: how could it have been made more elegantly? 19.40.22 # How about doing as __ suggested and posting a link or providing instructions on fixing it inline with the screenshots 19.40.48 # num1: there are lots of instructions how to fix it in the forums 19.42.05 # num1: You have write permission now. Make sure to mention that you updated the theme to use conditional viewports when you post it up! 19.42.33 Join pedrov [0] (n=pmauduit@dyn-83-156-114-58.ppp.tiscali.fr) 19.42.47 # LambdaCalculus37: why? there are no cond VPs in thet theme. 19.42.50 # fdinel: hi :) 19.42.51 Quit Mathiasdm2 ("Invisible Internet Project: http://www.i2p2.de") 19.43.14 # PaulJam_: Oh, right. Sorry. :P 19.43.25 # hey pedrov how are you :) 19.43.28 # num1: Make that "Updated to use new WPS syntax". 19.43.38 # fdinel: fine :) 19.44.00 # pedrov & fdnel: This isn't a social channel. Take the social talk elsewhere. 19.44.12 # LambdaCalculus37: ok, sorry 19.44.26 Quit davina (Remote closed the connection) 19.46.51 # LombdaCalculus37: alright, thanks 19.46.56 Quit Lear ("ChatZilla 0.9.83 [Firefox 3.0.1/2008070208]") 19.47.19 Join davina [0] (n=davina@cpc1-sout6-0-0-cust616.sotn.cable.ntl.com) 19.47.49 # * LambdaCalculus37 hands num1 a tab key 19.49.44 Join fml [0] (n=4fd3ebc5@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-acfe91385ece62be) 19.50.49 Quit Mathiasdm (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 19.51.38 # Hello. The CustomWPS page in the wiki states that e.g. the label for the repeat mode (%mm) gives the values 0 to 4. But in the code (in gwps-common.c), one is added to the setting's current value. Doesn't that mean the the values returned by the tag is 1 to 5? 19.52.58 # I'm asking because I try to update the patch in FS#8965. 19.55.07 # Nico_P: have you had a chance to look at FS#9197? 20.00.19 Join GodEater_ [0] (n=uw@rockbox/staff/GodEater) 20.00.31 # fml: only a quick glance. I'll check it more seriously this weekend hopefully 20.01.03 Join obo [0] (n=robert@rockbox/developer/obo) 20.02.10 # Nico_P: ok. Do you have admin rights in FlySpray? Could you reopen FS#8965. I requested to close it but it can actually still be used (I'll provide a patch soon). 20.03.42 # fml: you could make a test WPS containing a %mm tag to find out. 20.05.10 Join sitwon [0] (n=adam@68-247-174-32.area3.spcsdns.net) 20.05.38 Join Vorador [0] (n=tomas@84.240.35.19) 20.08.55 # PaulJam_: I think I'm right. The string and num values returned are 1 based (in all tags). The wps displaying code assumes so. 20.09.58 # But it's weird: if I use the new %ms tag in a conditional everything works as expected. But if I use it 'naked' (i.e. %ms) I get a seg fault (in the sim). 20.11.35 # Same with other tags, e.g. %mm 20.12.18 # here too. i guess noone notices since it doesn't make sense to use them not in a conditional 20.16.12 # PaulJam_: can you read C code? I think the code in gwps-common.c (e.g. line 1145) is weird. If intval is NULL, the *intval isn't changed but then is written to buf. I think both statements should be protected, i.e. we need {} 20.19.04 # i can read it. not sure if i understand it, though :) but i can take a look 20.21.17 # fml, i think you are right, it would access the null pointer in the snprintf it surely segfaults (on sim).. 20.23.09 # domonoky: yes, that's wrong but that's not the cause of the seg fault. How are the settings stored? I.e. if we have the values 1, 3, 5, 10, is the actual value of the setting 0, 1, 2, 3 (i.e. the index in the list of possible values) or the value itself? 20.24.48 Join jac0b|w [0] (n=d043a7c2@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-260ff3e3b836de89) 20.25.03 # hm, i dont really know how they are stored..but accessing a NULL pointer is always bad, so *someone* should commit a fix :-) 20.25.10 Quit jac0b|w (Client Quit) 20.25.48 Join jac0b|w [0] (i=d043a7c2@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-64d84d2ea9808502) 20.26.05 Quit GodEater_ () 20.26.18 Join GodEater_ [0] (n=uw@rockbox/staff/GodEater) 20.29.07 # settings.h tells me these settings begin counting with 0. 20.29.50 Quit miepchen^schlaf (Remote closed the connection) 20.30.30 Join miepchen^schlaf [0] (n=miepchen@p54BF7769.dip.t-dialin.net) 20.34.15 # I've tried and found out that skip_length is stored as a value, not as index 20.35.35 Join advcomp2019_ [0] (n=advcomp2@unaffiliated/advcomp2019) 20.36.15 # fml: concerning the %mm tag, i think line 1146 should be: snprintf(buf, buf_size, "%d", global_settings.repeat_mode); 20.36.16 Quit advcomp2019 (Nick collision from services.) 20.36.23 Nick advcomp2019_ is now known as advcomp2019 (n=advcomp2@unaffiliated/advcomp2019) 20.36.36 Quit GodEater_ () 20.37.38 # PaulJam_: no I think it's correct. gwps-common awaits it 1-based. 20.38.18 Join neddy [0] (n=john@nat/sun/x-5c19ee2f087ea36d) 20.41.22 Join ap0 [0] (i=kvirc@nfb68-1-88-169-81-101.fbx.proxad.net) 20.41.25 Quit ap0 (Client Quit) 20.42.39 # well, it doesn't segfault anymore when i use that. but Nico_P and JdGorddon are the WPS experts. and i'm not too god at C. 20.42.47 # *good 20.45.11 # i thought when "intval" is a null pointer then "snprintf(buf, buf_size, "%d", *intval);" would be bad. 20.45.25 # Do you use it in conditional or naked? 20.45.39 # PaulJam_: that would still be bad and needs a fix 20.46.24 # just %mm (not as a conditional) 20.57.48 Join GodEater_ [0] (n=ge@rockbox/staff/GodEater) 20.59.18 Quit sitwon ("Leaving") 21.00.51 # PaulJam_: it doesn't crash here but I get garbage with %mm :-/ 21.00.58 Quit jac0b|w ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") 21.05.13 Quit robin0800 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 21.05.15 Join robin0800_ [0] (n=robin080@cpc2-brig8-0-0-cust394.brig.cable.ntl.com) 21.09.19 Join petur [50] (n=petur@rockbox/developer/petur) 21.14.07 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 21.23.04 Quit robin0800_ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 21.23.05 Join robin0800 [0] (n=robin080@cpc2-brig8-0-0-cust394.brig.cable.ntl.com) 21.26.12 Quit GodEater_ (Remote closed the connection) 21.28.28 Nick Rasi_ is now known as Rasi (n=carnager@e182049016.adsl.alicedsl.de) 21.29.48 Quit rvvs89 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 21.37.07 Join borges|afk [0] (n=bruges@e178041196.adsl.alicedsl.de) 21.37.58 Quit robin0800 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 21.37.59 Join robin0800_ [0] (n=robin080@cpc2-brig8-0-0-cust394.brig.cable.ntl.com) 21.39.44 Join DrMoos [0] (i=moos@81-66-127-198.rev.numericable.fr) 21.40.23 Quit moos (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 21.43.03 Join rvvs89 [0] (n=rvvs89@bright-snat.ucc.asn.au) 21.54.34 Quit LambdaCalculus37 ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") 22.03.15 Quit jgarvey ("Leaving") 22.09.22 Join merbanan [0] (n=banan@83.233.242.107) 22.14.19 Quit Acksaw (Connection timed out) 22.15.41 # Hello. Could a FS admin reopen the task FS#8965 please? 22.17.24 # done 22.17.48 # I remember that Moos got told to reopen it, seems he forgot 22.19.53 Join borges|afk_ [0] (n=bruges@e178041196.adsl.alicedsl.de) 22.19.57 Quit borges|afk (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 22.20.00 Nick borges|afk_ is now known as borges|afk (n=bruges@e178041196.adsl.alicedsl.de) 22.20.08 Nick borges|afk is now known as borges (n=bruges@e178041196.adsl.alicedsl.de) 22.20.54 Join Acksaw [0] (n=omgwtfbb@cpc2-stok5-0-0-cust754.bagu.cable.ntl.com) 22.22.43 # petur: thanks. I've put the patch in. 22.23.21 Join shot0fadds [0] (n=rob@rockbox/developer/shotofadds) 22.23.31 Quit shotofadds (Nick collision from services.) 22.23.39 Nick shot0fadds is now known as shotofadds (n=rob@rockbox/developer/shotofadds) 22.27.31 # fml: are you sure you posted the correct patch? 22.29.01 # PaulJam_ : no! :-) 22.30.21 # PaulJam_: updated 22.31.04 Join Acky [0] (n=omgwtfbb@cpc2-stok5-0-0-cust754.bagu.cable.ntl.com) 22.31.38 # anyone ever gotten an abort while building rbspeexenc? 22.31.44 Quit miepchen^schlaf () 22.31.45 Join Luigi12 [0] (n=Luigi12@145.12.114.207.static.charm.net) 22.32.15 # midgey: you? 22.32.42 # does rockbox support any filesystems besides FAT32? 22.32.51 # i've been hacking up espeak to get it working on mac and i somehow broke my build environment 22.32.55 # Luigi12: no 22.33.05 # midgey: thanks 22.33.13 # FAT16 ;) 22.33.16 # well, do we support FAT16 or FAT12 on sd? 22.33.29 # linuxstb: :) 22.33.47 # Luigi12: It's considered a _lot_ of work for very small gain. 22.33.56 # midgey: FAT16: yes, FAT12: no 22.34.16 Join miepchen^schlaf [0] (n=miepchen@p54BF7769.dip.t-dialin.net) 22.34.45 Join Divadmils [0] (n=60e400a3@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-4480a80be5dc1802) 22.35.05 # interesting. The reason I ask is I use Linux, so my music is stored on ext3 which supports a few chars in filenames that FAT32 doesn't ", \, : , and ? namely, and I'm trying to figure out an easy way to get those files onto the system. NTFS or ext3 would make it trivial of course.. 22.35.57 # Luigi12: I recommend writing a script to remove the offending characters 22.36.50 # num1: yep, I will have to do that, just need to figure out how 22.36.54 Quit sarixe ("Were you expecting something more witty than this?") 22.38.19 # Luigi12: I would recommend for'ing all the files in the directory, and mv'ing them to a place specified by sed, which replaces the chars with _ or sumthing 22.38.28 # i am sure scripts are around on the internet somewhere, but this is getting a it offtopic here 22.39.14 Quit davina ("GNU/Linux the free alternative to Windows") 22.40.12 Quit Divadmils ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 22.43.42 Quit faemir ("Leaving") 22.43.52 Join Thundercloud [0] (n=thunderc@84-51-130-71.judith186.adsl.metronet.co.uk) 22.47.48 Quit Acksaw (Connection timed out) 22.49.05 Quit XavierGr (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 22.50.24 Join faemir [0] (n=faemir@88-106-180-165.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) 22.53.59 Quit Vorador ("Ex-Chat") 22.55.42 Part Luigi12 23.01.15 Join GodEater_ [0] (n=ge@rockbox/staff/GodEater) 23.04.04 Quit massiveH ("Leaving") 23.05.44 # PaulJam_: how did you spot the wrong patch? 23.06.05 # i looked at it? 23.06.36 # PaulJam_: ah, I thought by the file name :-) 23.13.18 Quit petur ("Zzzzz") 23.14.09 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 23.17.45 Quit domonoky (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 23.19.34 Quit fml ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 23.20.11 Join Nibbl [0] (n=Nibbler@91-67-150-33-dynip.superkabel.de) 23.33.02 Quit pedrov ("leaving") 23.39.00 Quit Bensawsome ("The awsome is gone :(") 23.42.46 Quit merbanan (Remote closed the connection) 23.45.24 Join Bensawsome [0] (i=Bensawso@c-71-235-222-135.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) 23.47.12 Part Seldaek 23.47.29 # bah, the e260 froze again 23.47.34 # I just left it playing all day 23.47.40 # after updating rockbox today 23.47.54 # the display shows that it's 2s from the end of song 54 in the playlist 23.49.36 Join Keripo [0] (n=Keripo@CPE001111e441f8-CM001a6680d4fe.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) 23.51.22 # Hello, I'm planning on buying a new 8GB Sansa e200 (from a Future Shop sale) and I was wondering what the chances are that it is a Rockbox compatible V1 23.51.34 # 50/50 23.51.39 # the v1 is and the v2 isn't (yet) 23.52.13 Quit k4y (Nick collision from services.) 23.52.21 Join k4y_ [0] (n=jackass@196-209-91-138-tpr-esr-2.dynamic.isadsl.co.za) 23.53.13 # No way to tell apart other than inspecting the box (or the player itself)? 23.53.33 # you have to look at the firmware version on the player 23.53.47 # all new e200s that are being shipped aren't all V2s? 23.54.09 # if it's new, it's likely v2 23.54.29 # alright, makes sense. Thanks. 23.57.48 # Keripo: If the box mentions audible support, it's definitely a v2 23.57.52 # I think there are other clues like audible support for v2's but the only sure way to be sure is by looking at the firmware version 23.58.27 # Sansa's with Rhapsody can also be V2s? 23.58.40 Join PaulJam [0] (i=PaulJam_@vpn-3008.gwdg.de) 23.58.49 # If it doesn't mention Audible support, there's a good chance it's a v1 (but you might still get unlucky and get a v2)