--- Log for 24.07.108 Server: verne.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 11 days and 16 hours ago 00.02.21 Quit Seed (Nick collision from services.) 00.02.29 Join Seed [0] (i=ben@bzq-84-108-237-178.cablep.bezeqint.net) 00.02.31 Join Acky [0] (n=omgwtfbb@cpc2-stok5-0-0-cust754.bagu.cable.ntl.com) 00.06.00 Quit xnyhps (verne.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 00.06.00 NSplit verne.freenode.net irc.freenode.net 00.06.00 Quit markun (verne.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 00.06.00 Quit freqmod_qu (verne.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 00.06.00 Quit shotofadds (verne.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 00.06.00 Quit Acksaw (verne.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 00.06.00 Quit TMM (verne.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 00.06.00 Quit dedebkgrn (verne.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 00.06.00 Quit daywalker (verne.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 00.06.00 Quit maraz_ (verne.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 00.06.00 Quit lostlogic (verne.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 00.06.11 NHeal verne.freenode.net irc.freenode.net 00.06.11 NJoin daywalker [0] (n=daywalke@ip-77-87-189-6.dnspower.de) 00.06.11 NJoin maraz_ [0] (i=maraz@xob.kapsi.fi) 00.06.11 NJoin lostlogic [50] (n=lostlogi@rockbox/developer/lostlogic) 00.06.11 NJoin dedebkgrn [0] (n=dedebkgr@206.251.250.217) 00.06.11 NJoin TMM [0] (n=hp@c514753fe.cable.wanadoo.nl) 00.06.11 NJoin markun [0] (n=markun@2001:610:1908:8000:250:daff:fe47:4a8f) 00.06.11 NJoin freqmod_qu [0] (n=quassel@2001:700:300:1800:213:d3ff:fee9:5ed0) 00.06.11 NJoin xnyhps [0] (n=xnyhps@2001:470:1f14:da:1:3:3:7) 00.06.11 NJoin shotofadds [0] (n=rob@rockbox/developer/shotofadds) 00.06.57 Quit desowin (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 00.10.27 Join barrywardell [0] (n=barrywar@rockbox/developer/barrywardell) 00.11.59 # I'm writing a plugin, and I'm including crc32.h, but I get a linker error saying undefined reference to crc_32 whenever I try to use it. 00.12.25 # I even tried #include "../../../firmware/include/crc32.h" but that didn't work either 00.13.09 # anything obvoius I'm missing? 00.13.25 # if it's a linker error then you're missing a library (sounds like crc_32) not a header file 00.13.38 Join bluebrother [0] (n=dom@rockbox/staff/bluebrother) 00.13.41 # You really, really shouldn't be including firmware headers in plugins. 00.14.30 # Llorean: should I copy the crc32.c source into my plugin directory? 00.16.27 # I mean, it works, but it seems like a bad idea to duplicate like that 00.16.45 Join MethoS- [0] (n=clemens@dyndsl-085-016-165-093.ewe-ip-backbone.de) 00.20.40 # you can't simply access functions from the core from plugins -- you need to use the api struct pointer. 00.24.09 # * num1 adds crc32 to the plugin api 00.33.35 Quit MethoS (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00.39.59 Quit bertrik (Remote closed the connection) 00.40.36 Quit sitwon ("Leaving") 00.41.15 Join Zarggg [0] (n=z@65-78-69-194.c3-0.eas-ubr6.atw-eas.pa.cable.rcn.com) 00.44.06 Join MethoS_ [0] (n=clemens@dyndsl-085-016-160-149.ewe-ip-backbone.de) 00.44.41 Quit stripwax ("Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org") 00.47.52 # * petur figures the peakmeter trigger code will need more rewriting but it won't be tonight... 00.50.33 Join rajihammr [0] (n=chatzill@nat2.srtnet.com) 00.50.49 # * petur puts up patch with latest state and runs off to bed 00.50.53 Quit petur ("Zzzzz") 00.51.03 # hey there 00.51.21 Quit MethoS_ () 00.51.22 Quit herrwaldo (Remote closed the connection) 00.51.26 Join MethoS_ [0] (n=clemens@dyndsl-085-016-160-149.ewe-ip-backbone.de) 00.52.21 # does anyone need a Sansa C250 for research to crack the firmware? ie who's working on it? 00.52.58 Quit jgarvey ("Leaving") 00.52.58 # rajihammr: check the New Ports forums -- there's a thread about the v2 sansas 00.54.31 Join nplus [0] (n=nplus@141.25.Globcom.Net) 00.54.34 Quit BlakeJohnson86 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 00.56.10 # thanks, I'm there, looking round 00.56.34 Join ComradeHaz [0] (i=Haz@85.234.136.4) 01.00.38 Quit MethoS- (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 01.02.08 Join BlakeJohnson86 [0] (n=bjohnson@c-24-118-135-22.hsd1.mn.comcast.net) 01.04.31 Quit bluebrother ("leaving") 01.06.14 Part rajihammr 01.08.18 Quit Nico_P (Remote closed the connection) 01.08.34 Quit Soap (Remote closed the connection) 01.13.19 Join Soap [50] (n=Soap@rockbox/staff/soap) 01.16.49 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 01.19.36 Join barrywardell_ [0] (n=barrywar@194.46.244.151) 01.23.29 Quit shotofadds (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 01.32.05 Quit barrywardell (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 01.38.23 Part toffe82 01.39.45 Quit perrikwp (Remote closed the connection) 01.42.39 Quit EspeonEefi ("さよなら") 01.52.12 Quit jfc (Remote closed the connection) 01.53.56 Part pixelma 01.56.12 Quit barrywardell_ () 02.00.23 Quit dedebkgrn (SendQ exceeded) 02.03.45 Join ReKleSS [0] (n=ReKleSS@d122-109-214-216.meb16.vic.optusnet.com.au) 02.06.06 Join EspeonEefi [0] (i=espeonee@CERULEANCITY.MIT.EDU) 02.09.35 Join Ghostface [0] (n=bla@d54C45920.access.telenet.be) 02.14.18 Join toffe82 [0] (n=chatzill@71.142.12.119) 02.14.37 Quit PaulJam (".") 02.15.13 Quit nplus (Remote closed the connection) 02.20.48 Quit Bensawsome ("The awsome is gone :(") 02.21.10 Quit Thundercloud (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 02.30.12 # i have a problem, i'm trying to install rockbox on my sansa c240 (v1) but the RB utility says "failed to load bootloader" when i try to install it 02.30.53 # i searched the forums/faqs but couldnt find an answer so im trying here... 02.31.13 # Ghostface, are you using mtp or msc mode? 02.31.15 # (i'm afraid of screwing up while doing manual install so i'd like to use that as last resort lol 02.31.29 # msc 02.31.54 # last time i tried installing, the sansaupdater software crashed 02.32.09 # so i kinda gave up because i got scared heh 02.33.35 # it is hard to mess up the sansas 02.34.19 # ok good :P 02.35.02 # any ideas or try manual install? 02.35.37 # try the manual install 02.35.39 Join fdinel [0] (n=Miranda@modemcable204.232-203-24.mc.videotron.ca) 02.38.41 Quit Zarggg () 02.38.58 Join Zarggg [0] (n=z@65-78-69-194.c3-0.eas-ubr6.atw-eas.pa.cable.rcn.com) 02.40.05 # Ghostface: I love the sansa because it has so many layesr of protection, even if the bootloader gets corrupted, there's still a way to fix it 02.40.37 # ye i read in sansafaq how to do reset 02.41.18 # still i dont like fiddling around too much tho, so wanted to try utility first ;) 02.42.35 # well 02.42.49 # manual didnt work either 02.43.09 # unzipped the .rockbox dir to root 02.43.22 # and ran the sansapatcher 02.43.26 # says: 02.43.38 Nick JdGordon|zzz is now known as JdGordon (n=jonno@rockbox/developer/JdGordon) 02.43.48 # [ERR] Failed to decrypt image, aborting 02.43.54 # [ERR] Install Failed 02.44.30 # im sure its a v1 player and its in msc mode 02.44.39 # latest firmware 02.51.26 Quit xnyhps ("Zzz...") 03.00.25 Quit MethoS_ (Remote closed the connection) 03.02.37 Join lee321987 [0] (i=chatzill@node101.39.251.72.1dial.com) 03.03.27 # i just installed Firefox 3...can anyone hear me? 03.04.43 # motd 03.07.18 Quit lee321987 (Client Quit) 03.07.42 Join lee321987 [0] (n=48fb2765@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-aabf977714c47929) 03.09.12 Quit lee321987 (Client Quit) 03.10.43 Quit faemir ("Leaving") 03.13.01 Join Bensawsome [0] (n=Bensawso@c-71-235-222-135.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) 03.13.28 Join Bagder_ [0] (n=daniel@1-1-5-26a.hud.sth.bostream.se) 03.14.13 Join perrikwp [0] (i=98212e1b@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-215c7dec7af8511c) 03.15.10 Join MethoS [0] (n=clemens@dyndsl-085-016-160-149.ewe-ip-backbone.de) 03.16.05 Quit culture (Connection timed out) 03.16.52 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 03.19.22 Join _Bagder_ [0] (n=daniel@1-1-5-26a.hud.sth.bostream.se) 03.22.42 # for anyone interested, probably found the solution : http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=16026.0 => downgrade firmware:p 03.26.37 Quit XavierGr () 03.30.48 Quit Bagder (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 03.31.15 Join Bagder [241] (n=daniel@rockbox/developer/bagder) 03.33.51 Quit thegeek_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 03.35.53 Quit Bagder_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 03.36.00 Quit DerDome (Nick collision from services.) 03.36.01 Join DerDome1 [0] (n=DerDome@dslb-082-083-199-184.pools.arcor-ip.net) 03.36.13 Nick DerDome1 is now known as DerDome (n=DerDome@dslb-082-083-199-184.pools.arcor-ip.net) 03.36.33 Join Bagder_ [0] (n=daniel@1-1-5-26a.hud.sth.bostream.se) 03.40.00 Join coatman [0] (n=Jacob@ppp-70-246-153-28.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net) 03.41.11 Quit DerPapst (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 03.44.20 Quit _Bagder_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 03.44.44 Join _Bagder_ [0] (n=daniel@1-1-5-26a.hud.sth.bostream.se) 03.49.29 Quit MethoS (Remote closed the connection) 03.51.31 Quit FOAD (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 03.52.24 Quit Bagder (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 03.52.46 Join Bagder [241] (n=daniel@rockbox/developer/bagder) 03.58.54 Quit Bagder_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 04.03.13 # Is that little Sansa chip in the c100/c200/m200/e200s called a "TriFlash"? "SD Controller"? "HARP Interface"? All of the above? 04.04.16 Quit Ghostface () 04.07.55 Quit _Bagder_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 04.09.49 Join Capn_Fish [0] (n=Capn_Fis@ktaylor.dsl.visi.com) 04.10.06 # I have some info you may want to add to your webpage 04.10.33 # On my H10 (not UMS, whatever the other one is), I got a "no partitions" error, which I finally solved 04.11.04 # You need to make a FAT32 patition (fdisk type c), and then it's recognized fine. 04.15.58 # Oh, then do a "mkfs.vfat /dev/h10deviceandpartition 04.15.59 # " 04.16.06 # Hope that helps somebody out 04.16.08 Part Capn_Fish 04.17.32 Join miepchen^schlaf_ [0] (n=miepchen@p54BF5470.dip.t-dialin.net) 04.17.44 Join massiveH [0] (n=massiveH@ool-44c48a1e.dyn.optonline.net) 04.25.28 Quit miepchen^schlaf (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 04.30.38 # MarcGuay: what little sansa chip? 04.31.59 # There's a little chip that acts as a SD interface to the memory. 04.32.33 # I'm trying to search around and have way too many terms to search with, trying to figure out what Sandisk might call it. 04.34.34 # are you talking about SDC1 chip? 04.34.41 # advcomp2019: That's my girl. 04.34.49 # I think it's just called an SDC-1 controller 04.35.22 # there's almost no info on it, except that it provides a switch between the SD and Flash for easier programming 04.35.47 # http://www.diamondpoint.co.uk/manuals/storage/kontron/M_chipDISK_SMI_SFLGM122.pdf chapter 4.1 04.38.06 # so I'd search for "flash controller" 04.45.16 Quit Battousai (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 04.45.32 Quit MarcGuay ("ChatZilla 0.9.83 [Firefox 2.0.0.16/2008070205]") 04.47.13 Join jhulst [0] (n=jhulst@unaffiliated/jhulst) 04.49.10 Join BHSPitLappy [0] (n=BHSPitLa@unaffiliated/bhspitmonkey) 04.49.17 Join Battousai [0] (n=bryan@maduin.southcape.org) 04.50.09 Quit neddy ("Leaving.") 04.53.02 Join RoC_MasterMind [0] (n=Free@c-24-127-250-250.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) 04.56.02 Join goffa [0] (n=goffa@216.220.23.105) 04.56.36 Join solexx [0] (n=jrschulz@e176100026.adsl.alicedsl.de) 04.57.06 Quit Zarggg () 05.03.39 Quit Bensawsome ("The awsome is gone :(") 05.04.37 Join Bensawsome [0] (n=Bensawso@c-71-235-222-135.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) 05.04.41 Join allele [0] (n=allele@CPE-69-23-137-242.wi.res.rr.com) 05.06.17 Join XavierGr [0] (n=xavier@rockbox/staff/XavierGr) 05.08.24 Quit Bensawsome (Client Quit) 05.13.32 Quit solexx_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 05.14.03 Quit massiveH ("Leaving") 05.16.53 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 05.17.52 # funny thing about my program, if I look up 20 entries in an array using a for loop I get a runtime error, but if I access each entry individually it works fine 05.18.52 # bugs like that usually mean there's a memory error somewhere 05.20.16 # well I'm pretty sure it wasn't accessing an out of bounds array, nonetheless, you mean the memory error would be in the plugin's programming, right? 05.20.24 # yes 05.21.08 # it usually means you're messing up somewhere else, and replacing your loop makes the bug show up 05.22.04 # alright, just making sure I'm not looking for something that isn't there 05.25.23 Quit fdinel ("Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org") 05.28.29 # oh, and got a 4gig microsd for my sansa e280r, works fantastic thanks to rockbox. now its just a matter of time until the 16 gig is released 05.33.11 Quit RoC_MasterMind ("Leaving") 05.42.13 Quit allele ("Java user signed off") 05.45.28 # allele: I think the biggest card suported by the sansa e280 hardware is 8gig 05.46.11 # it is anything SDHC...and he left 05.47.14 Join jfc [0] (n=john@dpc691978010.direcpc.com) 05.48.11 Join jfc^2 [0] (n=john@dpc691978010.direcpc.com) 05.49.56 Quit Horscht ("User was distributing pornography on server; system seized by FBI") 05.51.39 Join jfc^3 [0] (n=john@dpc691978010.direcpc.com) 05.51.51 Nick jfc^3 is now known as john (n=john@dpc691978010.direcpc.com) 05.53.44 Quit jfc^2 (Remote closed the connection) 05.53.44 Quit jfc (Remote closed the connection) 05.53.59 Nick john is now known as jfc (n=john@dpc691978010.direcpc.com) 05.55.08 Join daurn [0] (n=daurnima@unaffiliated/daurnimator) 05.58.04 Join geekjohn [0] (n=johnnybo@c-68-82-184-236.hsd1.de.comcast.net) 05.59.12 Quit Zom (Remote closed the connection) 05.59.23 Join Zom [0] (n=zom@h-43-44.A166.cust.bahnhof.se) 06.02.50 Join lee321987 [0] (i=chatzill@node78.34.251.72.1dial.com) 06.03.32 # hey Rockboxers. I just installed Firefox 3...can anyone hear me? 06.07.07 Quit lee321987 (Client Quit) 06.07.49 # that's the second time he hasn't waited long enough... 06.09.11 Join lee321987 [0] (i=chatzill@node78.34.251.72.1dial.com) 06.15.24 # hello 06.15.39 Quit lee321987 ("ChatZilla 0.9.83 [Firefox 3.0.1/2008070208]") 06.15.48 # ...... 06.15.53 Join lee321987 [0] (i=chatzill@node78.34.251.72.1dial.com) 06.16.02 Join webguest03 [0] (n=7df11fba@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-eea7d8a9ae087138) 06.16.42 Quit webguest03 (Client Quit) 06.17.12 # hello? 06.17.50 # Yes? 06.17.53 # lee321987, hello 06.18.21 # just re-registered with Nickserv -- just making sure you can see me 06.18.40 # lee321987: we have logs of the channel for that sort of thing 06.19.01 # Anyone using a MicroSDHC with a Sansa c200? 06.19.19 # lots are...if you have a specific question, it is better to simply ask that 06.19.44 # sorry 06.21.43 Quit geekjohn () 06.23.37 # is there a code to underline text here? 06.25.20 # lee321987: I don't see a need for on 06.25.30 # s/on/one 06.25.39 # ok. I'll use caps... 06.27.08 # on the Sansa c200's, when enabling mass storage ---- does the "2 bytes inserted" bug happen when copying from the player to the computer, or only when writing to the player? 06.30.53 Join Soap_ [50] (n=Soap@rockbox/staff/soap) 06.32.28 # [/u]underline[/u] 06.32.48 Join Genre9mp3 [0] (n=yngwiejo@rockbox/contributor/Genre9mp3) 06.33.11 # thanks guys 06.33.14 Quit lee321987 ("ChatZilla 0.9.83 [Firefox 3.0.1/2008070208]") 06.33.22 # lee321987: this isnt your test channel...what bu....ugh 06.37.13 Quit Soap (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 06.40.18 Join sarixe [0] (n=sarixe@ool-43540968.dyn.optonline.net) 06.41.44 Join troy_ [0] (n=toppy@78.146.181.90) 06.57.00 Join goffa_ [0] (n=goffa@216.220.23.105) 07.09.14 Quit coatman ("Leaving.") 07.09.59 Quit goffa (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 07.16.47 Join NotSoap [50] (n=Soap@rockbox/staff/soap) 07.16.54 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 07.18.43 Quit Soap_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 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Maybe you need to boot into the original firmware for USB connectivity? 13.06.59 # has the gigabeat even dualboot? 13.07.09 # I wouldn't know 13.11.30 # as far as I know, it does not 13.12.40 # indeed - just read it in the manual 13.13.53 # so, it should be a matter of just attaching it to usb 13.14.17 # webguest03: does it show up as a removable drive in windows explorer? 13.14.22 # its just that wmp already has all my playlists (my music is scatered all over my hardrive) if i didnt use wmp id have to go find each song and copy and paste 13.14.32 # yes shows up in windows explorer 13.14.49 # so it's a wmp issue 13.15.44 Join cpach [0] (n=FOO@c-224ae455.029-102-73746f34.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) 13.16.08 # it could be that WMP only works with MTP devices. 13.17.03 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 13.19.48 Join goffa [0] (n=goffa@216.220.23.105) 13.24.43 # linuxstb: ping 13.24.53 # amiconn: Hello 13.25.13 # Could you perhaps run test_fps.rock on your color, and tell me the values? 13.25.44 # I just want to know whether there's a speed difference between type 0 and type 1 13.25.59 # * amiconn is going to edit LcdFrameRate with his values 13.26.05 Join DerDome [0] (n=DerDome@dslb-082-083-199-184.pools.arcor-ip.net) 13.26.18 # Sure, I'll update LcdFrameRate as well. 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Does Sansa c240 support microSDHC? 14.11.16 # 'nvm 14.11.16 Part J-23 14.12.41 # cpach: Are you interested in FM radio or recording? Is a colour screen important? 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Other (also good) options would be the iaudio X5/X5V or iriver h340 - they have radios. 14.57.00 Quit MethoS- (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 14.57.36 # The F40 has a large colour screen and a very fast CPU, so Rockbox works well on it, including good video playback. 14.57.53 Join MethoS- [0] (n=clemens@host-091-096-214-117.ewe-ip-backbone.de) 14.57.59 # for pure music playback, I think the Gigabeat is the flagship DAP for Rockbox 14.58.38 # okey, thanks for the recommendation! 14.59.11 # cpach: Gigabeat F's tend to pop up on eBay often, so check it out. 15.00.33 Join tonsOfSparks [0] (n=Dima@adsl-68-92-62-148.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net) 15.02.21 # hey, everybody. I think I have an idea on how to make entering text on rockbox easier and more predictable. Who do i tell it to and how? 15.03.00 # my other problem is the I don't think I know nearly enough C to implement it myself. 15.03.17 # maybe the "feature ideas" section in the forums would be appropriate. 15.03.33 # true, thanks. 15.03.51 # i knew i wasnt the only one awate at 8 in the morning... 15.03.55 # tonsOfSparks: And better keep practicing your C skills. ;) 15.05.22 # lol. it's the summer, it's not like i have anything beter to do.... C, Calculus and Chemistry... so i don't have it all THat hard freshman year in college... 15.05.32 # lol the three c's 15.05.51 Quit MethoS_ (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 15.08.53 Quit rvvs89 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 15.10.24 # Have you at least been keeping up your C skills by studying Rockbox's source code? 15.12.26 Join ender` [0] (i=krneki@foo.eternallybored.org) 15.13.14 # * linuxstb points tonsOfSparks to http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/ 15.13.33 Nick k4y_ is now known as k4y (i=korpse@dsl-243-72-32.telkomadsl.co.za) 15.14.18 Quit Genre9mp3 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 15.14.22 Quit MethoS (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 15.17.06 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 15.26.34 Join DerPapst [0] (n=DerPapst@77.20.73.245) 15.29.11 # * amiconn wonders what makes GodEater call the gigabeat the flagship dap for music playback 15.29.52 # amiconn: It can handle most any codec you throw at it. 15.30.23 # Apart from high-levels of APE, what do the Coldfire targets struggle on? 15.30.37 # Maybe, but then e.g. the H1x0 is more flexible regarding outputs 15.31.11 # The Gigabeat doesn't have the hiss the H1x0 does on low impedance phones (at least that I've noticed) 15.31.20 # Which means it sounds much better if you like very low volumes. 15.32.03 # I don't know what makes the his appear or disappear. I can't notice it with my current earphones 15.32.28 # IMO, it's impossible to call any single player a "flagship", when the hardware is so different. 15.32.45 # I did notice though that the wolfson codecs don't like low impedance phones though. Almost no bass on 16 ohms 15.33.19 Quit Bensawsome ("The awsome is gone :(") 15.33.22 # On my 16 ohm phones on the H100 I can hear quite a hiss as I get within about 10-15 db of minimum volume. 15.33.41 # My current phones are 75 ohms 15.33.48 # Err, 64 ohms 15.33.50 # Mine are 32 ohms. 15.34.19 # I hear no hiss but lots of nice bass on my Gigabeast. 15.34.20 # My day-to-day ones are 32 and open. 15.34.39 # And I can't hear the hiss at all with them. 15.34.55 # * amiconn thinks it all depends on what properties you value most 15.35.26 # Probably very true 15.35.27 # No clear flagship, as linuxstb said 15.35.58 # I think though, the Gigabeat can be considered a flagship for another reason: It's easy to come by, cheap, and is capable of supporting all playback functions of Rockbox. 15.36.18 # But it depends on definition of "flagship" really 15.36.27 # Not so easy to get in europe 15.36.33 # Maybe something like "best buy for audio playback"... 15.36.47 # Seems like the Fs wre mostly sold in the US, and the Xs in japan 15.37.01 Join Bensawsome [0] (n=Bensawso@gateway.learn.k12.ct.us) 15.37.07 # Obviously then, we need to port to something widely available everywhere. 15.37.14 # amiconn: The X was also sold Down Under. 15.37.18 # It's way easier to find iaudios or ipods here than gigabeats 15.37.43 # At least in real shops, I haven't seen any iaudios in the UK. 15.38.27 # linuxstb: pixelma bought her M5 from the UK ... about the only place which sold M5s at that time... 15.38.34 # Apart from Apple, Sony and Samsung seem the main brands available (plus low-cost no-name flash players) 15.38.43 # M5L, to be precise 15.38.43 # amiconn: That wasn't a real shop though? 15.38.57 # No, an ebay shop 15.46.48 # "(8:10:29 AM) LambdaCalculus37: Have you at least been keeping up your C skills by studying Rockbox's source code?" Sorry, I don't think I have any C skills yet. I'm gonna be a freshman in college next year and have recieved no formal programming education yet, although, I have been dabbling in Java, and can write some simple but useful code in that. As far as C goes, the command line unit converter is about the apex of my "mad 15.47.31 Quit Llorean (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 15.47.46 Join rvvs89 [0] (n=rvvs89@bright-snat.ucc.asn.au) 15.47.55 Join Llorean [0] (n=DarkkOne@ppp-70-242-15-106.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net) 15.48.47 Join Bagder_ [0] (n=daniel@1-1-5-26a.hud.sth.bostream.se) 15.53.52 Quit Nibbler ("Ex-Chat") 15.56.40 Join MethoS_ [0] (n=clemens@host-091-096-215-018.ewe-ip-backbone.de) 15.57.11 Quit MethoS_ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 15.59.25 # "(8:13:18 AM) ***linuxstb points tonsOfSparks to http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/" OOOH! I JUST NOW GOT THAT! sorry, sometimes i forget to think on a global scale. oops. 16.00.15 # * LambdaCalculus37 points tonsOfSparks in the direction of our global scale... it's over there in the corner 16.01.47 # oh, i think i see it! but i can't quite reach it from Texas. N-O-O-O-O-O-O-O! 16.03.11 Join massiveH [0] (n=massiveH@pool-71-187-1-26.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net) 16.03.26 Quit Seed (Remote closed the connection) 16.03.55 Join Seed [0] (i=ben@bzq-84-108-237-178.cablep.bezeqint.net) 16.05.22 Quit Bagder (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 16.05.33 Quit ender` (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 16.09.34 Join ender` [0] (i=krneki@foo.eternallybored.org) 16.14.31 # okay, here's my big, revolutionary idea: http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=17885.0 16.14.32 # please loot at it and tell me what u think. 16.14.55 # * tonsOfSparks replaces loot with looK 16.15.08 # :-/ 16.16.13 # what target did you have in mind when creating this? 16.16.16 Quit MethoS- (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 16.16.18 # how this would work on others? 16.17.44 # i had the sansa c200 in mind, but it could realtively easily be adapted...o h wait.. nooooo. the iPod has less buttons. huh.. I would have to think about that. 16.18.23 # i'm sure it can be made to work on most other MP3 players 16.18.39 # it could work fine on ipod, I think, as you could scrollwheen to scroll "back-n-fourth" the "current letters" 16.18.52 # is there a good howto/doc for updating themes? 16.19.23 # tonsOfSparks: Remember, our current keyboard supports other languages with very different numbers of letters as well. 16.20.06 # * Nico_P wrote an experimental text entry plugin for the ipod, where the letters are arranged in a circle 16.21.45 # desowin: thanks for pointing that out. it's just one option. all i'm saying is that the current entry method can and needs to be improved. 16.21.59 # Nico_P, you are a genius 16.22.18 # * tonsOfSparks wished i had an iPod so I could try it out. 16.22.47 # hehe, thanks :) 16.23.02 # it's not that practical, but it's quite fun 16.23.06 # tonsOfSparks: Woot is selling iPod videos now. Go get one. :) 16.23.57 # Llorean: how about "long down" for a palette of accented letters.. or cyrillic whan it's supported ;-) 16.24.32 # LambdaCalculus37: <3 Thanks for pointing that out 16.24.51 # tonsOfSparks: Cyrillic is supported. 16.24.59 # Nico_p: how about setting the "arrow buttons" to jump to commonly used locations on the wheel. would that make it more practical? 16.25.21 # Llorean: nice. I didn't know that. how do u get to it? 16.25.55 # tonsOfSparks: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/LoadableKeyboardLayouts 16.26.06 # All unicode characters are valid. 16.26.21 # tonsOfSparks: you can actually get to any point of the circle by touching the wheel at the corresponding place. the display and the wheel are always "in sync" 16.26.52 # "LambdaCalculus37: tonsOfSparks: Woot is selling iPod videos now. Go get one. :)" I'm on a budget, and I just got my sansa like a week ago, but an Ipod is definately an option for later. 16.27.22 # Ack! US shipping only 16.28.02 # * tonsOfSparks begs Nico_P to post that on the forum thread I just started: http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=17885.0 16.29.27 Join xqtftqx [0] (i=4cbd373c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-67b3328332135208) 16.29.37 # thanks for that link, Llorean 16.29.44 # tonsOfSparks: You don't have to keep quoting the entire line I typed in. If you're responding, just direct it to me and I'll see your response. 16.29.52 Join toffe82 [0] (n=chatzill@h-74-0-180-178.snvacaid.covad.net) 16.30.08 # tonsOfSparks: it'll have to wait till this evening, I'm at work 16.32.56 # not even all Ipods have such a wheel though 16.33.17 # where you can get the current position 16.34.33 # yes, it's quite specific, and it was mainly an experiment 16.35.54 # tonsOfSparks: reading the rockbox source is a good way of learning C... that's how I did. 16.36.48 # combine with reading a book and you should quickly be able to make small hacks, then bigger ones, etc... 16.37.00 # * amiconn also had an idea for making the vkeyboard better adapt varying font sizes *and* need less buttons 16.37.13 # it's also very useful to have an editor that helps you navigate through code 16.37.22 # I agree with amiconn 16.37.36 # LambdaCalculus37: point taken. the noobometer reading for me has just dropped my 2 points 16.37.39 # I'd just make the picker area a single pane no matter how large it is relative to the display 16.37.52 # xqtftqx: he hasn't said his idea yet 16.38.11 # Then you can just go left / right / up / down and pick. No need for flipping through screens 16.38.18 # "amiconn: also had an idea for making the vkeyboard better adapt varying font sizes *and* need less buttons" 16.38.27 # thats what he said 16.38.29 # thanks, Nico_P I'll definately try that, and summer is a great time to do it. 16.38.54 # xqtftqx: What did you mean yesterday with "adding xbox 360 support to Rockbox" ? 16.39.13 # The position of the visible area relative to the whole picker would be indicated using "scroll" bars, and the cursor would stay in the centre of the display as long as possible 16.39.46 # Do you know how you can plug in a mp3 player to a xbox 360 and play music though the tv? i tried with rockbox and it was a fail, so i was wondering if anybody wants to help implement that feature 16.39.50 # This would at the same time allow nearly arbitrary loadable layouts 16.39.51 # how about voice recognition ;) 16.39.56 # amiconn: So, "move the text field" rather than "move the picker"? 16.40.04 # Llorean: Move both 16.40.15 # Well, you dont *have* to move the picker ever, if you want to keep it simple 16.40.24 # That is, picker stays in the centre as long as the field can move, then picker starts moving 16.40.28 # There's no reason the edge of the text field can't be within the screen, rather than at the edge of the screen. 16.40.29 # * tonsOfSparks asks amicon to post that on the forum thread 16.40.44 # petur: lol, good luck programming for that 16.40.49 # Why not have it the way it is in the OF of the ipod? One line of letters, and you go though them 16.40.56 # Llorean: There is at least one reason: showing as much of the area as possible all the time 16.40.57 # xqtftqx: As far as I know, the XBox 360 can work with Rockbox targets. I've watched videos off my Gigabeat. 16.41.11 # on the xbox? 16.41.13 # Yes. 16.41.25 # The XBox 360 is happy with media on UMS devices. 16.41.35 # xqtftqx: What device are you running Rockbox on? 16.41.41 # Gigabeat S 16.42.24 # I connect it and it gives me "No Videos, No Music, No Pictures Found" 16.43.04 # * Llorean just played music from his Gigabeat F 16.43.05 # That sounds like a question for an xbox support forum - your S is just an external hard disk (although it has two partitions - maybe that's the issue)... 16.43.17 # maybe 16.43.49 # it probly is, somebody needs to hide the firmware partion on the S, it just confuses people and can mess up a player 16.44.21 # Yep, thats the problem. i put a mp3 on the firmware partion and it found it 16.44.43 # Yes, I expect we probably will. But there are more important things to fix first, and only one person working on the port (I think) 16.44.49 # Does the S still boot if you change the partition type? 16.45.14 # not the "type" but make rockbox not mount it when you plug in the drive 16.45.15 # linuxstb: As well, keeping it visible right now makes it much easier to update the bootloader, etc. 16.45.37 # we chould add a setting in the system menu to enable/disable it? 16.46.05 # I'd just change the partition type of the firmware partition to the appropriate hidden fat variant 16.46.19 # but then its hard to update the bootloader 16.46.22 # amiconn: I'm pretty sure I tried that, and it didn't boot. But I can't recall for sure. 16.46.31 # without erasing data 16.46.50 # i can go edit it to not mount it on usb cable insert 16.47.37 # Well, rockbox usb could hide it dynamically (just translating sector 0 on read) 16.47.59 # Yes, I think jsMikeS may even have started work on doing that. 16.48.20 # dont you think not mounting it whould be easier, chould remount for firmware update 16.48.31 # Does rockbox usb work on the beast? I don't remember... 16.48.34 # where is jhMikeS these days btw? 16.48.37 # amiconn: Yes, quite well 16.49.14 # Nico_P: Im not sure, havent seen him around 16.49.16 Quit ReKleSS ("Leaving") 16.51.17 # xqtftqx: If a user is capable of configuring their OS to not mount it, then they're not going to be confused by it. It's all the other users we worry about (and users who can't change the host OS's behaviour - e.g. you with your xbox) 16.51.46 # Does the beast have bootloader usb? 16.51.57 # (i.e. rockbox usb in the bootloader) 16.52.03 # yes 16.52.11 # So we won't even need a setting.. 16.52.15 Join Thundercloud [0] (n=thunderc@84-51-130-71.judith186.adsl.metronet.co.uk) 16.52.17 # Hmmmm 16.52.25 # So when you insert in bootloader mode 16.52.27 # it shows firmware 16.52.33 # and when in normal interface 16.52.38 # Make main rockbox usb hide the firmware partition, and bootloader usb pass it as-is 16.52.42 # no firmware? im a little confused 16.52.48 # I'm opposed to bootloader USB starting by default, btw. 16.52.54 # amiconn: I thought about that - but that could be confusing as well (different devices appearing depending on whether you plug USB with the device turned on or off) 16.53.01 # I think the mode should be there, but should happen when a button is held down. 16.53.08 # good point 16.53.10 # To make "Car Adapter" mode more reliable with USB charging devices. 16.53.27 # Llorean: I agree, a setting is too clumsy 16.53.31 # Llorean, http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=17202.0 16.53.37 # linuxstb: If it required bootloader USB, which required a button held down, then you'd almost never see it by accident. 16.53.43 # Car adapter mode needs quite some thought on most targets.... 16.53.56 # massiveH: I don't have an H300. 16.53.56 # Llorean: Maybe 2 buttons? 16.54.10 # Llorean, the idea is the same, and can be applied to any target 16.54.15 # Llorean: Why does bootloader usb require a button to be held? Or are you suggesting that it should? 16.54.18 # xqtftqx: Unnecessary and makes it hard for people to do it intentionally. 16.54.26 # linuxstb: Suggesting it should (on all targets) 16.54.28 # Btw, I'm not talking about some fancy device translation. Just hide the firmware partition by changing a single byte in the mbr on the fly 16.54.37 # Isn't the issue the mis-detection of a PC-connection and a USB-charger-connection? 16.54.41 # linuxstb: Bootloader USB mode is, to me, a "recovery mode" if Rockbox USB isn't available. 16.55.03 # This way e.g. rbutil (or a knowledgeable user) could still access the firmware partition even if it's hidden 16.55.05 # linuxstb: In some cases car chargers will be mis-detected because they're poorly designed. Or because they're a USB hub charging a phone and other things too. 16.55.31 # Same, but some times i connect to bootloader mode because its more convient, aka im booting up the device and i plug in the cable at any time and dont have to insert it later 16.56.08 # xqtftqx: It wouldn't decrease convenience. If you don't have Car Adatper mode enabled, you'll still end up in USB if you plug it in early, just not bootloader USB. 16.56.49 # massiveH: As far as I know, no other bootloader on a swcodec target *has* a charging screen. 16.57.21 # Llorean, well, I only have the h300 to test on, so I have no idea what the bootloader looks like on other targets 16.58.01 # Llorean, that thread applies the idea that USB Bootloader is only entered when (on the H300) "MODE" button is held down 16.58.28 # That chould realy help with the S as well 16.59.26 # Looking, at this, it chould be ported easily 16.59.53 # xqtftqx: Do you mean "should" or "could" with that word? I've seen it more than once from you now. 16.59.55 # there are only a few changes to the bootloader code, it only reapplies the method of entering the "Original Firmware" 17.00.30 # but, not having a debugger unit for my H300, I was crossing my fingers when I reflahsed it, but it works perfectly fine 17.00.37 # Llorean: It chould and it should 17.00.40 # (there is a link to the patch in that thread) 17.00.46 # Yeah 17.00.48 # xqtftqx: "could", there is no "h" in the word. 17.01.06 # sorry 17.01.22 # http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/9202 17.01.51 # yeah, that is the patch I created, and it should be portable to other targts, but not having one, I have no way to test 17.02.17 # We need a sim for bootloaders 17.02.27 # Speaking of patches, I draw attention once again to FS#9199. 17.02.34 # xqtftqx: It wouldn't make any sense. 17.03.07 # xqtftqx, you would have to emulate the exact hardware in a player, not a real easy thing to do 17.03.13 # I guess 17.03.31 Quit EspeonEefi ("さよなら") 17.03.38 # it's pretty much easier to just get a debugger if all goes to hell with a flash 17.04.14 Quit Seed (Remote closed the connection) 17.04.30 # LambdaCalculus37: That should be commited, whould help spanish users 17.05.01 # xqtftqx: It's just a few of the missing strings in the translation. 17.05.36 # And, It should help 17.06.02 Quit Thundercloud (Remote closed the connection) 17.06.26 # LambdaCalculus37: Hi, the other day I said you that I'll look at it...very busy those days sorry, I'll take a look *now* :) and commit it 17.06.52 # moos: Okay. 17.07.05 # LambdaCalculus37: some of the strings aren't translated at all and for some the voice string is still the english one. 17.07.06 Join Seed [0] (n=ben@bzq-84-108-237-178.cablep.bezeqint.net) 17.07.20 Quit _idshark (Remote closed the connection) 17.07.42 Join idshark [0] (i=chainsaw@i.will.tell.u.some.hotstories.de) 17.07.55 # PaulJam: Yes, I know that. I was doing it from rasher's translation page, and I had to stop the translation because the boss was around. 17.08.34 # So I just generated a patch of what I had and put it up. I'll be getting the voice strings done when I have a little time. 17.08.40 # do you want to update it first? 17.08.50 # okay 17.11.05 # I wanted to precise in the comit message that the voice part will come later, but just rasher commited... 17.11.14 # invert last words :) 17.11.56 # Ooops, a bit trigger happy there 17.12.51 # Is there any minor things that need worked on in the gigabeat? ive got some time today 17.13.13 # gigabeat s* 17.14.11 # xqtftqx: Wanna look at the FM radio and TV out? 17.14.16 # rasher: do you keep the task open until future voice update or? 17.14.31 # TV out may be hard 17.14.33 # moos: hah, I just closed it, I guess I could re-open 17.14.44 # no problem 17.15.09 # just because i dont work with that stuff, i probly chould make it disable something on the screen just like "Hello World" or something 17.15.17 # I guess LambdaCalculus37 could create a new task for it 17.15.30 # LambdaCalculus37: if you want it re-opened, ping me. Or bother someone else if you fix the last issues and don't want to open a tracker entry 17.15.34 Quit faemir (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 17.15.39 # What task? 17.15.45 # rasher: Roger! 17.17.09 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 17.19.36 # is this Silicon Labs Si4700 FM chip used for any other target than the beast? canot remenber any... 17.20.40 # OMG! 17.21.02 # moos: I dont think so 17.21.24 # I haven't seen it anywhere else, either. 17.21.52 # And the related link in GigabeatSInfo is dead. 17.22.10 Join EspeonEefi [0] (i=espeonee@30-7-18.wireless.csail.mit.edu) 17.22.39 # http://octopart.com/info/Silicon+Laboratories/SI4700-B-EVB 17.23.48 # datasheet of the SI4700 are under NDA 17.24.34 # Dang 17.24.50 # but if you ask the good person you can get them ;) 17.25.05 # http://www.datasheet4u.com/html/S/I/4/SI4700_SiliconLaboratories.pdf.html 17.25.13 # Hmmmm, fmradio.exe in the extracted nk.bin may help us out 17.25.36 # * moos was editing the wiki page 17.26.03 # moos: Thats a lot of info there 17.26.32 # datasheet that is :) 17.26.35 # moos: this datasheet doesn't help so much, we have more interesting stuff 17.26.53 # anybody know the svn commit where the plugins where edited to work with the gigabeat? 17.27.15 # Salut, nice,does jhMikes have them? 17.27.39 # yes , me too :) 17.28.30 # *cough*share them*cough* 17.28.42 # never tried to dig on yet? Mikes seems to be buse with RL those weeks... 17.28.49 # busy 17.29.17 # Wasn't he also working on power management for the S? 17.29.50 # yup he had it almost working IIRC before he desapeared :( 17.30.36 # * LambdaCalculus37 wonders if JhMikeS' girlfriend had something to do with it ;) 17.30.59 # As in "relationship commitment". 17.31.41 # Anybody know his email? 17.32.11 # let just hopes for him that all goes well (sorry for off topic) 17.32.17 # xqtftqx: I do. PM 17.32.28 # Send him a email 17.32.34 # his email like most of our are in wiki... 17.36.11 # moos: I just sent him an email. 17.38.16 # he seems to folow the rockbox tracker, then I guess he will answer you very soon... 17.38.52 Join MethoS [0] (n=clemens@host-091-096-215-018.ewe-ip-backbone.de) 17.39.38 # toffe82: Do you have there devolpment Gui? 17.41.06 # xqtftqx: no 17.41.37 # Ill see if i can find it 17.42.33 Join faemir [0] (n=faemir@88-106-180-165.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) 17.42.50 Quit Nico_P ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") 17.43.56 Quit massiveH ("Leaving") 17.44.41 # Hmmm, this chip has signal strength meter in it. That chould be implemented into rockbox 17.47.57 # * LambdaCalculus37 reads the datasheet for the SI4700 17.50.04 # The Si4701 has symbol decoding, block synchronization, error detection, and error correction functions, as well. 17.50.19 # Heh... it can even display station identification and song information. :) 17.51.07 # RDS? 17.51.13 # Yes. 17.51.21 # nice 17.51.21 # And RBDS as well. 17.52.04 # Thats Wicked, you wonder why they didnt include that in the toshiba firmware 17.52.20 # Whats RBDS? 17.52.26 # xqtftqx: Because Toshiba didn't use the Si4701. They used the 4700. 17.52.56 Part tonsOfSparks 17.53.19 # Doesnt that mean we cant get RDS? 17.53.42 # Sadly, no RDS for us. :( 17.53.59 # :( We can have seek though 17.54.01 # oh 17.54.05 # Unless we ever get a target that happens to use the Si4701. 17.54.18 # probly not 17.55.50 # Does the Si4700 use the ground wire for the attena? 17.58.00 # No, not that I can see from the datasheet. 17.58.18 # what wire does it use? 17.59.04 # That's something the external wiring implements... not the chip itself 17.59.18 # hmmm 17.59.26 # posibly input in via the chip? 18.00.25 Join CrazyD [0] (n=vista@cpe-76-95-154-51.socal.res.rr.com) 18.01.08 # The chip just has an input for the antenna. How the antenna is actually implemented (dedicated or sharing the headphone wire) is up to the circuit designer 18.01.36 Part pixelma 18.01.37 # Ok 18.04.25 # check the block diagram 18.04.46 # ok... 18.04.47 # I think it use the ground from the headphones cable 18.04.57 # dang 18.07.09 # Is MaurusCuelenaere in here? 18.07.49 Quit petur ("work->home") 18.07.54 # He's still on holiday, I believe. 18.08.16 # Ok 18.08.19 # Can you spot him? 18.08.26 # * amiconn points xqtftqx towards http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IrcNicks 18.08.34 Join Nico_P [50] (n=nicolas@rockbox/developer/NicoP) 18.10.38 Quit xqtftqx ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") 18.22.03 Quit coatman ("Leaving.") 18.23.34 Join FOAD_ [0] (n=dok@dinah.blub.net) 18.23.59 Join coatman [0] (n=jacob@ppp-70-245-242-75.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net) 18.28.03 Join miepchen^schlaf [0] (n=miepchen@p54BF5470.dip.t-dialin.net) 18.28.53 Join bertrik [0] (n=bertrik@ip117-49-211-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl) 18.37.48 Join arohtar [0] (n=faemir@88-106-180-165.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) 18.38.14 Join domonoky [0] (n=Domonoky@rockbox/developer/domonoky) 18.40.57 Quit FOAD (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 18.40.58 Nick FOAD_ is now known as FOAD (n=dok@dinah.blub.net) 18.43.27 Quit Seed (Nick collision from services.) 18.43.28 Join Seedy [0] (n=ben@bzq-84-108-237-178.cablep.bezeqint.net) 18.50.02 Quit faemir (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 18.51.01 Join xqtftqx [0] (i=4cbd373c@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-7870827b6458651c) 19.01.19 Quit PaulJam (".") 19.08.26 # OK, ive got a idea 19.08.41 # what about porting new devolper platforms to rockbox? 19.13.02 # what do you mean by developer platform? 19.14.12 # Platforms, WHere code can from, Such as java. 19.15.41 # Allowing new ways to code for rockbox, example: somebody wants to code for rockbox, they know java, but not C. This whould allow them to write apps for rockbox without new coding knowledge 19.17.13 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 19.17.29 # That wouldn't be a development platform, but rather a java vm for rockbox 19.17.54 # Ok, but image it 19.17.55 # And java makes oooh so much sense on an embedded platform like those rockbox runs on 19.18.33 # Really, if someone understands the principles of programming, just another language isn't really difficult 19.18.43 # I guess so... 19.18.48 Join Seneca79 [0] (n=seneca@h081217132048.dyn.cm.kabsi.at) 19.19.28 Join tessarakt [0] (n=jens@e180071083.adsl.alicedsl.de) 19.19.52 Join bestwc [0] (n=bestwc@203.121.23.32) 19.20.46 # BTW, has anybody worked on the scumm vm port? 19.20.47 # Hum... 19.20.57 Quit dionoea (Remote closed the connection) 19.21.00 Join dionoea [0] (n=dionoea@yop.chewa.net) 19.21.48 # has karma-port already dead? 19.21.56 # karma-port? 19.22.07 # rio kar 19.22.23 # http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/RioKarmaPort 19.23.46 Join massiveH [0] (n=massiveH@pool-71-187-1-26.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net) 19.24.43 # oh its a DAP 19.27.41 # No, the Karma port is stalled. 19.28.03 Join petur [50] (n=petur@rockbox/developer/petur) 19.28.16 # That's because I haven't got much time to work on it these days, plus I have never been able to find the eCos source code from the Karma. 19.34.47 # I also would like to have an extra Karma as well. 19.42.34 Part Seneca79 19.43.50 Quit bestwc (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 19.44.51 Join bestwc [0] (n=bestwc@203.121.22.19) 19.50.16 Join obo [0] (n=robert@rockbox/developer/obo) 19.55.46 Quit sacarasc (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 19.55.49 Join sacarasc [0] (i=sacarasc@cpc1-kemp3-0-0-cust978.lutn.cable.ntl.com) 19.59.07 Join bestwc_ [0] (n=bestwc@203.121.22.112) 20.07.28 Join tictactatic [0] (n=tictacta@bas2-toronto06-1279472957.dsl.bell.ca) 20.07.39 Join PaulJam [0] (i=PaulJam_@vpn-3060.gwdg.de) 20.08.12 # hi there, i have a silly question (but haven't been able to find an answer anywhere) 20.08.19 # i have iaudio x5 20.08.58 # and am trying to record.... everything seems fine, but i can't find the recorded file anywhere 20.09.20 # rockbox version r18117 20.11.02 # The recording folder is configurable - I think the default is the root (top-level folder) of the disk. 20.14.57 Join jgarvey [0] (n=jgarvey@cpe-098-026-069-229.nc.res.rr.com) 20.18.00 # linuxstb: i'm looking in the root directory, but i can't find it :( 20.18.10 # how can you configure it? 20.18.35 Quit bestwc (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 20.19.14 # tictactatic: Make a new folder 20.19.15 # I think it's in the file browser "context menu" - long press on "select" when you have a folder highlighted in the file browser 20.19.27 # Create a folder for your recordings, then enter the context menu and select "Set as recording directory". 20.19.47 # thank you 20.19.51 # will try immediately 20.20.04 Quit xqtftqx ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") 20.21.23 Join hannesd [0] (n=light@p5B162183.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 20.22.49 # it worked, thanks 20.33.25 Quit coatman (Remote closed the connection) 20.37.28 Join bestwc__ [0] (n=bestwc@203.121.23.3) 20.37.42 Join sitwon [0] (n=adam@static-71-166-233-112.washdc.east.verizon.net) 20.38.51 # I have another question: is there a place where the recording function is described in detail? 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Subjective question: what device that I can buy new today would be best to (most important) run and (secondary importance) develop Rockbox on? 21.45.41 # Depends what you want 21.45.48 Join Radikll [0] (n=450e90e9@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-a20f32229d61135f) 21.45.54 # Have a look at www.rockbox.org/wiki/BuyersGuide 21.45.56 # hey 21.46.46 Join Bensawsome [0] (n=Bensawso@gateway.learn.k12.ct.us) 21.46.50 # i need some help with iboy 21.46.56 # ioy is ipodlinux 21.46.59 # BigBambi: Okay thanks that helps. Looks like none of the supported devices are in production. 21.46.59 # *iboy 21.47.01 # oh 21.47.07 # lol 21.47.13 # jfm3: Sadly not, although others are in development 21.47.22 # thanks 21.48.04 # does ipod linux work well on 5G ipods? 21.48.14 # I don't know, and that is off-topic for here 21.48.22 # ok 21.48.28 # i'll google it 21.48.33 # Rockbox also has a gameboy emulator - Rockboy 21.48.51 # yea but it's really slow for me 21.49.45 # is there a way to make rockboy work faster? 21.49.57 # Yep, improve the code 21.50.33 # ummm... i dont know if i can do that 21.50.52 Part jfm3 ("ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)") 21.54.09 Join bluebrother [0] (n=dom@rockbox/staff/bluebrother) 21.56.54 Join Strife89 [0] (n=michael@204.116.245.152) 21.57.50 Quit jgarvey (Connection timed out) 21.58.12 Join snoh [0] (n=dave@cpc1-sout6-0-0-cust616.sotn.cable.ntl.com) 22.00.05 Quit LambdaCalculus37 ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") 22.00.21 Quit jgarvey_ (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 22.02.06 # can you play music while playing gameboy games? 22.02.26 # No. 22.06.15 # Can I make recording on my 5G iPod? 22.07.15 # I don't know for sure. The answer is sure to be in the manual or the Wiki. (or someone else's head :p) 22.07.22 # My guess is: No. 22.08.05 # :'( 22.08.20 # i'll check the manual 22.09.06 Join herrwaldo [0] (n=waldo@ip-81-11-209-86.dsl.scarlet.be) 22.09.44 # I tried making a recording, but when I played it back all I got was a buzzing sound 22.10.16 Join robin0800 [0] (n=robin080@cpc2-brig8-0-0-cust394.brig.cable.ntl.com) 22.10.21 # Well, that would make sense, unless you added a supported microphone. ;) 22.11.36 # I believe the 5th gen does recording via a dock connector 22.14.49 Join webguest39 [0] (n=20616e8f@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-9483865aca918e23) 22.14.50 # The manual doesn't tell me how to make a recording, but it tells me what all the setting do xD 22.15.00 Join webguest22 [0] (n=ce2fdcc6@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-7db7c995e438d2fe) 22.15.09 Join jgarvey_ [0] (n=jgarvey@cpe-098-026-069-229.nc.res.rr.com) 22.15.17 # What about the Wiki? 22.15.26 # Hello 22.15.29 # ..... What the hey, I'll check. 22.15.35 # quick question re rockbox! 22.15.38 # webguest: hello :) 22.15.48 # sory to interupt 22.15.53 # hi 22.16.38 # hi.. i'm new to rockbox. just put it in my sansa e280 (version 1). I have a problem with FM presets - I add a preset file with my presets, but anything over 99.9 does not work 22.16.44 # Just wanted to ask if you think it is worth it to upgrad my Sanasa e200 to rockbox? 22.17.30 # Hi WG22... I just did today.... seems pretty good so far, i'm still getting used to the navigation. 22.17.38 # do you find it a lot better then what sansa has on the Sansa player? 22.17.42 # YES 22.17.44 Quit Bensawsome ("The awsome is gone :(") 22.17.51 # I never even tried the sansa stuff 22.18.01 # Trust me, it' 22.18.08 # it's better. :) 22.18.19 # i AM having a problem with FM presets, tho 22.18.30 # Check the scan mode. 22.18.32 # in what ways? I have read the docs etc. but just want to ask before I do it 22.18.39 # ----Region mode___ 22.19.03 # it does not seem to accept anything over 99.9... but i just signed on here 1 minute ago. 22.19.18 # i will try the region mode, etc. - thanks strife89 22.19.40 # Does the radio have a default region? 22.19.51 # Europe, I think. 22.20.04 # I had to set it to US, at any rate. 22.20.41 # ok.. i think i have it set to us/canada 22.20.41 Quit webguest22 ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 22.20.49 # lemme check it out 22.21.15 # Try a Scan For Presets if it fails. 22.22.36 # it doesn't 'fail'... just doesn't seem to know what to do with a channel over 99900000 22.22.49 # goes to lowest channel 870000 22.23.28 # * Strife89 shrugs helplessly. 22.23.38 # * Strife89 owns a Sansa c250. 22.24.21 # trying the scan thing 22.24.47 Quit faemir (Remote closed the connection) 22.25.11 # Radilll: http://www.rockbox.org/mail/archive/rockbox-archive-2007-06/0042.shtml 22.25.34 # Correction: Radikll: http://www.rockbox.org/mail/archive/rockbox-archive-2007-06/0042.shtml 22.26.10 # oh thanks :D 22.26.14 # well, scan does pick up the stations (plus a lot more that barely come in). I'll try saving that one and see what it look like 22.26.32 # webguest39: Good to hear. :) 22.29.30 # How can I update Rockbox when a new version comes out? 22.29.58 # unzip a new build, or use rbutil 22.30.12 # I'm pretty sure this is in the manual - have you read it yet? 22.30.17 # Radikll, just download from http://build.rockbox.org/ and extract .rockbox to your player... 22.30.29 Quit Vorador ("Ex-Chat") 22.31.14 # Radikll: It is in the manual - as requested in the guidelines, please read the manual before asking questions here that are covered in it 22.31.30 # I read some of the manual 22.31.40 # Please search/read it before asking questions 22.31.44 # now go back and read all. 22.32.13 # ok... 22.32.43 # It is *incredibly* annoying to repeatedly get asked questions that are in the manual, that people have spent a lot of time and effort writing 22.35.19 # * rasher thinks the radio mode shouldn't have a default region 22.35.35 # But rather if unset, should ask for region when the user enters it 22.36.02 # Much like the database works 22.36.15 Join hannesd_ [0] (n=light@p5B161CBE.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 22.36.34 # you are already asked for an auto-scan... 22.37.10 # rasher: couldn't it be part of rbutil installation process? 22.37.50 # bouck: That seems wrong. 22.37.56 # pixelma: It could ask for region at the same time 22.38.36 # maybe, yes 22.39.33 # rasher: maybe. But not 100% :-P rbutil could also ask about the preferred language. 22.40.17 # but it would be nice if you can "answer the questions" independently to e.g. set the region but not start an auto-scan in case you already copied an fmr file but didn't set it yet 22.40.29 # ok.. for my fm preset problem. I had it do an autoscan, then saved that and compared it to the file I built (edited from another city) - i needs another digit 22.40.40 # pixelma: in that case it wouldn't ask to scan for channels, would it? 22.41.12 Join faemir [0] (n=faemir@88-106-180-165.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) 22.41.41 # it now works. so it seems it needs 6 digits after the 'decimal' 22.41.46 # I'm not sure 22.41.48 # yes, it is in Hz 22.41.52 # bouck: I'm not a fan of moving configuration into rbutil. It creates an external dependency and complicates rbutil. Stuff like this should really Just Work, really. 22.41.56 # @webguest 22.42.43 # perfect. I had copied one from the list of presets for different cities and tried to build my own. the one that i copied from must not work either. (at least on a e280) 22.42.50 # * domonoky just heard his first sound out of his .sap (ASAP port) codec .. still a bit choppy and all metadata is fake.. but i have sound !! :-) 22.42.57 # congrats 22.44.55 # Do you guys new of any good websites to download Rockbox plugins and themes? 22.45.08 # know* 22.45.28 # all plugins are included, for themes take a look at the wiki.. 22.45.38 # ok 22.47.10 Quit webguest39 ("CGI:IRC") 22.48.15 Quit hannesd (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 22.48.16 Nick hannesd_ is now known as hannesd (n=light@p5B161CBE.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 22.48.54 Quit massiveH ("shoot, gotta run") 22.50.16 Quit bluebrother (Nick collision from services.) 22.50.21 Join bluebrother [0] (n=dom@rockbox/staff/bluebrother) 22.53.27 # hmmm... I'm doing screens[i].getstringsize() and although I'm pretty sure the remote is using sysfont, it looks like the value is the same 22.54.36 Quit MethoS (Remote closed the connection) 22.54.52 # bye thanks for the help 22.55.20 Join MethoS [0] (n=clemens@host-091-096-215-018.ewe-ip-backbone.de) 22.55.30 Quit Radikll ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 22.56.08 Join matsl [0] (n=matsl@host-90-235-9-86.mobileonline.telia.com) 22.56.58 # domonoky: Does ASAP have metadata? 22.57.32 # * petur runs it through GDB and confirms something is fishy 22.59.38 Quit sitwon ("Leaving") 23.00.31 # Llorean: not really, but some like duration,number of subsong.. 23.00.39 # Ah 23.00.49 # Are subsongs going to work like NSF? 23.01.35 # i dont know at moment.. we will see :-) 23.03.14 # hm, it seems it even has a tag for Author and name in the sap header.. 23.03.29 Quit bouck ("CGI:IRC") 23.06.02 Join ompaul [0] (n=ompaul@gnewsense/friend/ompaul) 23.07.33 # current recordingscreen rewrite gain = 1768 bytes :) 23.12.53 Quit Strife89 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 23.14.19 Quit matsl ("Leaving") 23.16.04 Join culture [0] (n=none@cpc1-bele3-0-0-cust658.belf.cable.ntl.com) 23.17.19 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 23.21.20 Join itcheg [0] (n=IceChat7@h-67-100-146-176.nycmny83.covad.net) 23.22.12 Quit domonoky (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 23.22.13 # bluebrother any chance to synch and commit? http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/5737?histring=sudoku 23.25.32 Join coatman1 [0] (n=Jacob@ppp-70-245-242-75.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net) 23.26.03 Quit hannesd (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 23.27.18 Quit bertrik (Remote closed the connection) 23.33.07 Quit snoh ("GNU/Linux the free alternative to Windows") 23.36.06 Join krazykit [0] (n=kkit@host-69-145-35-234.static.bresnan.net) 23.36.49 # itcheg: wow, that's quite a while ago since I made that. Will put it on my list of items to check ... 23.40.36 Quit fyrestorm (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 23.42.49 Join Dhraakellian [0] (n=ntryon@cpe-69-207-147-61.rochester.res.rr.com) 23.43.17 # okay, I'm planning to take another stab at doing a battery benchmark test on my e200 23.43.22 Quit coatman (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 23.44.03 # Which one of the following should I use to make the batterybench plugin work? http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/8070 http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/9155 23.45.38 Join fyrestorm [0] (n=fyre@cpe-68-173-172-243.nyc.res.rr.com) 23.46.02 Quit jgarvey_ ("Leaving") 23.51.56 Join safetydan [0] (n=evertond@rockbox/developer/safetydan) 23.52.50 Quit faemir (Remote closed the connection) 23.55.28 # * petur just updated 9208 and wouldn't mind if people would test it ;) 23.56.57 Quit desowin ("KVIrc 4.0.0 Insomnia http://www.kvirc.net/") 23.58.44 # * Dhraakellian sits and waits for gcc to finish compiling