--- Log for 06.08.108 Server: calvino.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 4 days and 18 hours ago 00.00.31 Join MarcGuay [0] (n=chatzill@ip216-239-86-254.vif.net) 00.00.41 Join DaCapn [0] (n=dacapn@nemo.csn.tu-chemnitz.de) 00.02.16 Quit bertrik ("Leaving") 00.02.18 Join CyBergRind|w [0] (n=cbr@212.98.160.130) 00.03.24 # * amiconn wonders what feature petur is talking about 00.03.40 # ? 00.05.50 # The 'remote disabled' thing... 00.05.59 # ah 00.06.30 # in the rec screen, you can disable remote updating for those who still have noise 00.06.39 # something Mmmm added I think 00.06.51 # Ah, hmm, that thing 00.07.09 # it works 50% now: the list keeps getting updated, but only if you change something, so not too bad 00.07.15 Join neddy1 [0] (n=john@nat/sun/x-ef53f81f6c998216) 00.07.18 # I'll leave it like that for now 00.08.25 Join toffe82 [0] (n=chatzill@189.155.27.171) 00.08.30 # * petur puts up a new patch, notes there is a remaining issue and walks to the bedroom 00.08.38 Quit petur ("Zzzzz") 00.08.59 # petur: Testing rec_v16. 00.09.37 # Grr. :) 00.13.29 Join vort3x [0] (n=vortex@unaffiliated/dfa001) 00.13.53 # I find the filename looks a bit odd where it is now, but I understand your reasoning for it and can't think of anything better. 00.14.49 # User instinct says "I can select it, now what can I do with it?" 00.16.16 # it was a bit of a compromise. We discussed here that having the filename line in the static part takes away precious space on the 64 pixels high displays - and was disabled for those for this reason. In current SVN it is shown though (IMO a bug but if this screen goes anyway) 00.17.06 # Why is it selectable? 00.17.16 Quit ender` (" Good programmers treat Microsoft products as damage and route around them.") 00.17.17 # if it's in the list, it is your choice if you want to see that or some other lines in the list part. But I agree on the "selectable" 00.17.31 # it's not, but it could feel this way 00.18.01 # ^amiconn 00.18.42 # Maybe lists need a way to have 'disabled' items, in addition to the overall read-only list option 00.18.50 Quit cbr|w (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00.19.22 # Otoh it might be confusing if the bar suddenly disappears 00.19.43 # greyed out item? Would be an idea, at least on color targets. 00.20.03 # amiconn: and to select them makes them scroll... 00.20.21 # I think I'd prefer a greyed out item than one that vanises (like the "recent bookmarks" entry in the main menu) 00.20.22 # It doesn't need to be greyed out, just the selection bar wouldn't appear on it 00.20.24 # or at least it shoulf 00.20.29 # *should too 00.20.44 Quit robin0800 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00.20.45 # Greying out won't work on 1-bit displays 00.21.05 # I'd rather have an oddly selectable item than a disappearing item. 00.21.10 # yep, as I said: on color targets ... 00.21.25 # Wouldn't it make more sense to skip it, and select the next item, rather than making the bar disappear? 00.21.35 # thinking of the odd greys of the h100 it might also not be the best idea to use greys there. 00.21.38 # What about non-selectable, always scrolling, first item in list? 00.21.46 # Greying out has another problem: how do you derive the colour to use, with all the theming stuff? 00.21.53 # MarcGuay: the item wouldn't disappear just the bar 00.22.12 Quit ChanServ (shutting down) 00.22.14 Quit jgarvey ("Leaving") 00.22.23 # well, the bar could become an outline instead. That would make some "grey" even on b/w targets. 00.22.41 # could be problematic with too tiny fonts though. 00.22.50 Join Bensawsome [0] (i=Bensawso@c-71-235-222-135.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) 00.23.04 # s/outline/border/ 00.23.33 # There's another problem with making the bar disappear (or outline, whatever): how to handle the pointer cursor case? 00.23.49 # or gradient bars 00.24.38 # MarcGuay: hopefully such an item wouldn't be staticly on one line otherwise you will have the same problem again in the recording screen 00.26.14 # amiconn: Why not just skip the item and select the next? 00.26.17 # An always scrolling item would cause another problem wrt freezing the remote lcd 00.26.38 # I don't think there *has* to be a visual clue 00.26.40 # rasher: The list should still be navigatable the standard way 00.27.12 # If you just skip the disabled line, it would be unreadable if the list (e.g. in the recording screen) collapses to a single line 00.27.32 # I don't see how that makes any sort of sense. 00.27.39 Join ChanServ [0] (ChanServ@services.) 00.27.39 Mode "#rockbox +o ChanServ " by irc.freenode.net 00.28.12 # rasher: The recording screen patch uses a list for a lot of information 00.28.21 # Will Rockbox work with a hacked iPod? Like if I'm replacing the harddrive in iPod Mini 2gen with a CF-card? 00.28.22 Quit faemir (Remote closed the connection) 00.28.28 # Some line are read-only info, some others are settings (e.g. gain) 00.29.12 # I don't understand that collapsing thing either 00.29.39 # pixelma: Large font on a small screen (e.g. a user with low vision) 00.30.03 # What makes the line unreadable though? 00.30.16 # well, I think I slowly get it now 00.30.49 # Ah, I guess if you have multiple lines next to eachother 00.30.58 # rasher: The list code tries to keep the cursor visible. If the list only shows a single line, and it skips 'disabled' (read only) lines (our proposal) those lines would never become visible 00.31.02 # MarcGuay: the item wouldn't disappear just the bar --- I meant the bar, pardon my poor wording. 00.31.11 # s/our/your/ 00.31.25 # the problem is the case where the list is only one line high and there's one line not selectable... or? 00.31.57 Quit bluebrother ("need to get sleep now :o") 00.33.02 Join Zarggg [0] (n=z@65-78-69-194.c3-0.eas-ubr6.atw-eas.pa.cable.rcn.com) 00.33.54 # Zambezi: It should. Check out the hardware section of the docs index, there are a few pages dealing with that. 00.34.37 # It does. I have a mini 2nd Gen modded with a 32GB CF card, running rockbox 00.34.42 Quit herrwaldo ("Konversation terminated!") 00.35.28 Quit Nico_P (Remote closed the connection) 00.35.53 # The OF also works just fine with that (as far as I can test, i.e. just the gui) 00.36.02 # amiconn: That's exactly what I'm planning to do. 32 GB vs 4 GB will be a major difference. 00.37.08 # amiconn: I just need a heatgun to. I think the mod is possible to do even if I just made one tricky mod. 00.37.55 Quit ChanServ (shutting down) 00.38.16 Join ChanServ [0] (ChanServ@services.) 00.38.16 Mode "#rockbox +o ChanServ " by irc.freenode.net 00.39.27 Quit pbryan (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 00.40.28 # petur: Regarding the original comment for the recscreen, the status bar now enables and disables nicely. Thanks. 00.40.46 Join Thundercloud [0] (n=thunderc@84-51-130-71.judith186.adsl.metronet.co.uk) 00.45.33 Quit Lear ("ChatZilla 0.9.83 [Firefox 3.0.1/2008070208]") 00.47.05 Join krazykit [0] (n=kkit@host-69-145-35-234.static.bresnan.net) 00.49.59 Join WerderCanuck [0] (n=4643883c@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-5f8447cf8df49bcf) 00.50.34 Quit tehpaper (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 00.50.53 Join tehpaper [0] (i=UPP@653237hfc238.tampabay.res.rr.com) 00.51.35 # hi everyone. can somebody help me getting rockbox on my sansa c240? i use the rockbox utility, but when i select complete installation it downloads the bootloader but then i get an error, saying "failed to add bootloader" 00.53.11 Join jhulst [0] (n=jhulst@unaffiliated/jhulst) 00.55.54 Quit stripwax (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 00.56.30 # WerderCanuck: What is the original firmware version? 00.57.22 # the newest one 1.0.0.7 i think 00.57.44 # That one isn't recognised by the released version of rbutil/sansapatcher 00.57.58 Nick fxb is now known as fxb__ (n=felixbru@h1252615.stratoserver.net) 00.58.00 Nick fxb__ is now known as fxb (n=felixbru@h1252615.stratoserver.net) 00.58.04 Join pbryan [0] (n=pbryan@209.52.48.162) 00.58.08 # You will either need to build a newer version from the source, or downgrade the sansa firmware 00.58.25 # 1.00.07 or 1.01.07... ;) 00.58.52 Quit Nibbler (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00.59.05 # * pixelma adds a question mark 00.59.19 # not exactly sure how to check the correct firmware version in msc mode... 00.59.29 # It is in system somewhere 00.59.53 Join AhtiK [0] (n=ahti@88-196-185-130-dsl.rgu.estpak.ee) 01.00.13 # settings - system info 01.00.26 # (in the OF) 01.01.02 # 1.01.07 01.01.36 # So my previous comment applies 01.02.07 # how do i downgrade then? 01.03.03 # http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/SansaC200Port#Sansapatcher_isn_t_finding_my_c2 01.05.43 Join einhirn [0] (n=Miranda@p5B031DC5.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 01.09.48 Join n9xvt [0] (n=187be7e0@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-ac8b2273be889655) 01.10.21 # found a page omission,, 01.10.27 # http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/SpareParts 01.10.57 # missing sansa c series parts and wanted?,,maybe 01.11.23 # Well, it is a wiki so feel free, but until someone has some is there much point? 01.11.25 # n9xvt: the first person to have or want parts can add that 01.11.54 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 01.12.06 # understood,,srry 01.12.58 # i'm learning mre and moe lte time,,,lolz 01.13.07 # Please use proper English 01.13.31 # stupid wireless keyboard,, 01.13.58 # so, downgraded to 1.01.06 and connected in msc mode. just start the utility and select auto complete installation? 01.14.08 # Hopefully :) 01.15.10 # installation working now. thanks for your help BigBambi 01.15.19 # no problem, glad you got it working 01.15.34 # The next version of rbutil will work directly with 1.01.07 01.16.39 Join tessarakt [0] (n=jens@e180072121.adsl.alicedsl.de) 01.17.48 Nick Maha` is now known as maha (i=juma@gateway/gpg-tor/key-0xB9002659) 01.18.28 Join ahti_ [0] (n=ahti@88-196-185-130-dsl.rgu.estpak.ee) 01.18.46 Quit AhtiK (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 01.19.09 # anyone planning on a lang file cleanup before release? 01.20.29 # hmmm cant find my music... 01.20.45 # What USB mode did you copy it there in 01.20.56 # auto 01.21.02 # You need to do it in MSC 01.21.19 Quit nplus (Remote closed the connection) 01.21.31 # And don't put it in the music folder - the OF hides that everytime you boot it which is annoying 01.21.38 # Use anything else e.g. audio 01.21.52 # Or just set rockbox to show everything :) 01.22.03 # Or that 01.22.13 # Either way, music transferred in MTP won't show up 01.22.56 # no biggie, i'll just copy the music back to HD, delete and switch to msc 01.23.03 # ok well i'll have to register for wiki,,but tonight i've got a full plate,,just popped in to get the latest info-update-ed files,,, 01.24.27 # how do you set it to show everything?,,I just go find the stuff i want from "files" in the main menu? 01.24.43 # The manual will tell you that 01.24.51 # You want the file view setting 01.26.43 Quit ompaul (Client Quit) 01.34.55 Join m0f0x__ [0] (n=m0f0x@189-47-17-237.dsl.telesp.net.br) 01.36.21 Quit matsl (Remote closed the connection) 01.37.20 Nick m0f0x__ is now known as m0f0x (n=m0f0x@189-47-17-237.dsl.telesp.net.br) 01.42.27 Nick JdGordon|zzz is now known as JdGordon (n=jonno@rockbox/developer/JdGordon) 01.44.23 # do i have to boot into OF when im just charging? 01.44.33 Quit m0f0x_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 01.45.47 # pixelma: MarcGuay: imo if there is enough room for say 4 lines in the list part, the filename should go at the top of the screen and not in the list 01.50.04 # Anyone feel more qualified than I to start the WhyRealNames wiki page? 01.50.22 # BigBambi? MarcGuay? Both you two have a way with words. 01.51.54 # Soap: I'm just off to bed, but I'm travelling tomorrow so have lots of time to do stuff like that. I'll have a bash tomorrow if nobody already has 01.56.43 Join massiveH [0] (n=massiveH@ool-44c48a1e.dyn.optonline.net) 02.00.38 Quit krazykit ("dinnertime") 02.03.54 Part Strife89 02.06.23 Quit toffe82 (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 02.06.57 Join toffe82 [0] (n=chatzill@189.155.27.171) 02.18.37 Quit WerderCanuck ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 02.20.56 Quit DerDome ("Leaving.") 02.23.59 Quit tvelocity_ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 02.24.18 Join BHSPitLappy [0] (n=BHSPitLa@unaffiliated/bhspitmonkey) 02.24.58 Quit pbryan ("See ya.") 02.25.02 Join perrikwp [0] (i=4aa794a0@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-0f16165066e7e444) 02.25.20 Join tvelocity [0] (n=tony@athedsl-4409051.home.otenet.gr) 02.26.44 Quit n9xvt ("CGI:IRC") 02.32.52 Quit perrikwp ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") 02.37.54 Part pixelma 02.39.35 Join allele [0] (n=allele@CPE-69-23-137-242.wi.res.rr.com) 02.41.23 # llorean, you mentioned that plugins that take up too much ram will interrupt playback. would combining integers (instead of x and y int coord xxxyyy) reduce the amount of ram needed? 02.46.45 Quit Thundercloud (Remote closed the connection) 02.48.04 Nick fxb is now known as fxb__ (n=felixbru@h1252615.stratoserver.net) 02.51.20 # Zambezi, what part of the mod do you need a torch for? 02.51.49 # (Or do you mean "torch" an in what yanks call "flashlights")? 02.53.19 # allele: not enough to make a difference... and could make it worse 02.54.54 # fair enough, any other solutions out there that might help? 02.56.07 # I was thinking about the possibility of a pseudo swap file, but that's not good for flash based memory 02.56.57 # rasher, (or someone else) - can I have some context clues for attempting to translate "LANG_AGC_DJSET"? 02.57.22 # "DJ-Set (slow)" doesn't parse in my mind well. Trying to relay the context to a Japanese speaker. 02.58.41 # I guess, part of the question is - what is the difference between the "DJ-set" slow responding AGC setting and the "Live" slow responding AGC setting? 03.00.12 Quit tvelocity ("Αποχώρησε") 03.00.47 # Soap: I just said I need a heatgun, but I haven't looked on the details yet. I won't before I can afford to buy the CF-card. 03.03.07 # that's right - heatgun - what for? 03.03.12 Join Chronon [0] (i=vircuser@d23-104.uoregon.edu) 03.03.24 Join dude187 [0] (n=chris@cpe-75-187-51-53.columbus.res.rr.com) 03.03.26 Join Chronon_ [0] (i=vircuser@d23-104.uoregon.edu) 03.04.34 Join Chronos [0] (i=vircuser@d23-104.uoregon.edu) 03.04.55 Quit Chronon_ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 03.04.55 Quit Chronon (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 03.04.55 Quit Chronos (Connection reset by peer) 03.05.02 Quit maha (Remote closed the connection) 03.06.33 Join Chronon [0] (i=vircuser@d23-104.uoregon.edu) 03.06.49 Join maha [0] (i=juma@gateway/gpg-tor/key-0xB9002659) 03.07.38 # jdGordon: my plugin uses a couple fairly large matrices, do you think it would make a difference if I had each one in its own plugin and just called it from the main plugin? 03.08.10 Quit Schmogel ("Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org") 03.09.27 Quit einhirn (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 03.11.58 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 03.13.55 # Soap: Maybe it said Hot gluegun. That might explain it. ;-) 03.22.11 Quit massiveH ("Leaving") 03.27.13 Quit neddy1 (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 03.29.38 Quit dude187 (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 03.30.15 Join massiveH [0] (n=massiveH@ool-44c48a1e.dyn.optonline.net) 03.31.10 # allele: How much RAM does your plugin need? Do you get an error when you try and compile it? 03.32.36 # no, it compiles fine and runs fine, but its not able to play music while in use 03.32.52 Join neddy1 [0] (n=john@nat/sun/x-184dc85764b904b1) 03.33.36 # allele: Are you calling the function to use the audio buffer in your plugin? 03.34.05 # no, that could be my problem 03.34.22 # No, that's not the problem... If you're not calling it, audio playback should continue. 03.34.30 # oh 03.34.35 # Are you calling rb->yield() at all? 03.34.44 # no 03.35.30 # could that be it? 03.35.33 # Rockbox uses co-operative multi-tasking, so if you don't call yield (or sleep, or core functions which call either of them), then you will hog the CPU 03.36.24 # alright, I'll look into that then, thank you :D 03.36.57 Quit MarcGuay ("ChatZilla 0.9.83 [Firefox 2.0.0.16/2008070205]") 03.40.54 Quit neddy (Connection timed out) 03.43.17 Quit Zacam (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 03.45.14 Quit dabujo ("( www.nnscript.com :: NoNameScript 4.2 :: www.regroup-esports.com )") 03.59.37 Quit neddy1 ("Leaving.") 04.06.03 Part maha 04.14.48 Quit allele ("Java user signed off") 04.15.22 Quit Chronon ("Client exited") 04.15.40 Quit massiveH (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 04.19.17 Join massiveH [0] (n=massiveH@ool-44c48a1e.dyn.optonline.net) 04.40.54 Quit jhulst (No route to host) 04.45.29 Quit ZincAlloy ("CGI:IRC") 04.47.09 Join jhulst [0] (n=jhulst@unaffiliated/jhulst) 04.57.56 Quit avis (Remote closed the connection) 04.58.46 Join miepchen^schlaf_ [0] (n=miepchen@p54BF53A2.dip.t-dialin.net) 05.01.16 Quit midgey_ () 05.04.10 Join solexx_ [0] (n=jrschulz@e176102016.adsl.alicedsl.de) 05.06.24 Quit miepchen^schlaf (Connection timed out) 05.08.02 Join XavierGr [0] (n=xavier@rockbox/staff/XavierGr) 05.12.01 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 05.19.34 Quit solexx (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 05.24.55 Join nuonguy [0] (n=john@c-71-198-1-139.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) 05.40.26 Join MrWizeGuy1983 [0] (n=MrWizeGu@c-71-203-202-142.hsd1.tn.comcast.net) 05.40.50 # is this room for mp3 player support on linux? 05.41.53 # hm? 05.41.56 # not really 05.42.04 # oh, someone said i should go here 05.42.05 # oops 05.42.10 # any idea where i can go? 05.42.16 # it's for an alternative MP3 player firmware named Rockbox 05.42.26 # which for all I know is not Linux-based 05.42.33 # didn't know 05.42.42 # never mind 05.43.00 # any idea where i should go for help getting my mp3 player to work on ubuntu? the people in the ubuntu room didn't know 05.43.04 Quit Zarggg () 05.43.08 Quit Horscht ("Snak 5.3.3 Unregistered copy. 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See the first 2 phrases in the diff 09.44.49 # pixelma: Those are voice strings that shouldn't be there (because they aren't used) 09.47.36 # english.lang doesn't define a voice string for LANG_CONFIRM_SHUTDOWN 09.48.10 # oh, sorry then (to preglow too). Should've checked... 09.51.40 # Better to notify us of something that isn't a problem, that not notify us of something that is a problem 10.22.01 Join Zagor [242] (n=bjst@46.35.227.87.static.tab.siw.siwnet.net) 10.23.14 Join Thundercloud [0] (n=thunderc@84-51-130-71.judith186.adsl.metronet.co.uk) 10.26.16 Quit amiconn (Nick collision from services.) 10.26.22 Join amiconn [50] (n=jens@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 10.31.38 Join mf0102 [0] (n=michi@85.127.20.176) 10.41.22 Quit BigBambi (Remote closed the connection) 10.41.26 Join Vorador [0] (n=tomas@lan-84-240-35-19.vln.skynet.lt) 10.43.19 Quit Chronon ("Client exited") 10.50.50 Join mf0102_ [0] (n=michi@85.127.20.176) 10.51.01 Quit fyrestorm (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 10.52.36 Join fyrestorm [0] (n=fyre@cpe-68-173-172-243.nyc.res.rr.com) 10.59.20 Quit mf0102 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 11.08.17 Join robin0800 [0] (n=robin080@cpc2-brig8-0-0-cust394.brig.cable.ntl.com) 11.10.45 # charge_e200_17614.patch seems to be missing in the tracker can't find it in opened or closed patches 11.12.09 # robin0800: do you know which task it is supposed to be attached to? 11.12.10 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 11.12.56 Quit Vorador ("Ex-Chat") 11.13.36 # Batterry/charging 11.13.53 Quit mf0102_ ("Ex-Chat") 11.14.47 # i mean which task number 11.15.04 # It was a proof of concept perhaps the author's withdrawn it 11.15.17 # 17614 11.16.31 # there is no task number 17614 11.16.53 # did you mean svn revision? 11.17.24 # basically, where did you hear about this file and that it is supposed to be in our tracker? 11.19.20 # It was in patches I have the patch but it doesn't seem to work I was checking for an update before posting comments 11.22.20 # http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/8363 11.22.39 # just played around with some search strings 11.24.22 # pixelma: thanks 11.25.22 Join m0f0x_ [0] (n=m0f0x@189-47-7-88.dsl.telesp.net.br) 11.25.26 # thank you the other number is a revision number not the patch 11.25.46 # * pixelma hands robin0800 some punctuation 11.27.10 # What's wrong with that attachment? I can get it just fine 11.27.56 # he didn't find it when searching for the xyz.patch string 11.28.30 # maybe flyspray doesn't search the name of attached files 11.28.49 # No update, dosn't look like rockbox is going to have charging for the sansa any time soon 11.29.50 # the patch doesn't work or doesn't apply? 11.29.56 # No new patch maybe, but the latest comments show a clear plan, and are only five days old... 11.30.00 # Usb mass storage I tried as well, this also dosn't work 11.30.33 # tried in what way? What doesn't work? 11.31.39 Quit Thundercloud (Remote closed the connection) 11.32.06 # The Patch applies fine, no errors, Wps shows charging. Left on overnight no change in battery level 11.32.11 Join Thundercloud [0] (n=thunderc@84-51-130-71.judith186.adsl.metronet.co.uk) 11.32.20 # I mean Usb mass storage 11.33.35 Quit linuxstb (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 11.33.53 Join ChristopherW [0] (n=christop@ip68-3-217-146.ph.ph.cox.net) 11.36.06 # Usb mass storage, can be enabled, windows finds the two usb devices, is very slow to open the micro hdsc card and updating rockbox copying the .rockbox folder falls over and is slow 11.37.12 # So not exactly "doesn't work" then... 11.37.25 # Have you tried a different usb port? 11.37.27 Quit m0f0x (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 11.39.35 # gevaerts, no but I wired my front usb ports and they work perfectly, at fullspeed and never see any errors 11.40.10 Quit Thundercloud (Remote closed the connection) 11.40.25 # gevaerts,errors until this problem 11.42.29 # There still are some problems that make usb work badly with some usb ports. 11.43.25 Quit JdGordon ("Konversation terminated!") 11.44.02 Join menollo [0] (n=menollo@client107-14.hint.rug.nl) 11.45.01 Join Nalar` [0] (n=nalar@client107-14.hint.rug.nl) 11.46.16 # gevaerts,this patch FS#8562 - USB storage driver work, may help don't know 11.46.31 # No. Everything there is in svn 11.46.41 Join dabujo [0] (i=xx@p4FDB320C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 11.48.07 Join JdGordon [0] (n=Miranda@c210-49-163-174.smelb2.vic.optusnet.com.au) 11.49.24 # FS#8562 is not closed and don't think its been commited 11.49.48 # Look, I wrote the code, so I know what's been committed or not for this 11.50.49 # sudo su -l nalar 11.50.53 # gevaerts,sorry why is patch still open? 11.50.56 Quit menollo ("leaving") 11.51.32 # To have a place to put new experimental patches that try to solve these issues. No sense in opening new tasks every week 11.52.18 # gevaerts,so is this patch needed? 11.52.53 # There is currently no patch that contains code not in svn 11.53.06 Join AndyI [0] (n=pasha_in@212.14.205.32) 11.54.52 # gevaerts,so you only have to enable Mass Storage as per http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/PortalPlayerUsb#Enabling_mass_storage_support correct? 11.57.13 Quit DaCapn () 11.58.24 Join linuxstb [0] (n=linuxstb@rockbox/developer/linuxstb) 11.58.25 Join m0f0x__ [0] (n=m0f0x@189-47-8-55.dsl.telesp.net.br) 11.59.03 # Yes 12.01.27 Join einhirn [0] (i=Miranda@bsod.rz.tu-clausthal.de) 12.04.07 Quit Nalar` ("leaving") 12.04.22 Quit AndyIL (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 12.06.39 # fs#9245! 12.08.07 # Bagder: Yes, it looks good - I've a couple of very minor comments, but will try and commit tonight. 12.08.18 # very nice to see 12.09.27 Join DerDome [0] (n=DerDome@dslb-082-083-199-100.pools.arcor-ip.net) 12.10.24 Quit m0f0x_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 12.17.37 Quit nuonguy ("This computer has gone to sleep") 12.18.08 # rasher, I totally grok that "DJ-Set (slow)" is an AGC setting - how is it different than "Live (slow)"? 12.19.32 # Is the only difference the target headroom? 12.21.45 # I ask because I'm helping a friend with context for the Japanese translation. Looking over the manual again, I'm thinking perhaps the goal for the AGC settings should be as literal of a translation as possible and let the manual explain what they mean vs a "descriptive" translation - which makes my question null and void. 12.24.49 Quit ChristopherW (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 12.25.54 Join ChristopherW [0] (n=christop@ip68-3-217-146.ph.ph.cox.net) 12.27.36 Join Thundercloud [0] (n=thunderc@host81-132-215-132.range81-132.btcentralplus.com) 12.28.01 Quit einhirn (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 12.55.02 Join jmspeex [0] (n=jmspeex@modemcable112.109-81-70.mc.videotron.ca) 12.55.14 # preglow: ping 13.12.11 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 13.24.24 # Soap: I'm not a big fan of those AGC settings names either 13.24.52 # and, btw, do not let him translate the sysfont variants of them, they will be gone very soon :) 13.28.25 # petur: Regarding you remote freeze problem - do you think it would make sense to have a general lcd_remote_freeze(bool on) function? 13.28.46 Quit ctaylorr_ ("leaving") 13.29.11 # This would just make any lcd_remote_update[_rect]() call effectively do nothing (and issue an lcd_remote_update() on unfreeze) 13.29.31 # amiconn: yes, that would be a mich nicer solution. But not in this patch ;) 13.31.47 # ehm *much 13.31.50 # The same solution could be applied to the main lcd on archoses with radio (radio screen has a freeze option there, as the lcd updates interfere with reception: reportedly noticeable on recorder fm (samsung tuner), very noticeable on Ondio FM with samsung tuner, and sometimes noticeable on Ondio FM with philips tuner) 13.32.30 # didn't know that... 13.32.53 # The samsung tuner is very sensitive to interference, much more than the philips 13.33.18 # Ondio FM with old tuner is more affected than the fmrecorder because everything is packed more closely together 13.36.39 Quit Bensawsome ("The awsome is gone :(") 13.37.05 # The samsung tuner is so sensitive that it even picks up interference from the MAS PLL if the reception frequency is an integer multiple of it (usually 4x MAS_PLL_FREQ falls into the FM reception range). Due to this, the archos OF (and rockbox too) slightly shifts the mas pll frequency away if you tune to a multiple of it 13.37.30 # This causes a slight pitch shift if you then record from fm, but still better than having the interference... 13.37.47 # wow... 13.40.23 Join Bensawsome [0] (n=Bensawso@unaffiliated/bensawsome) 13.43.56 Join fdinel [0] (n=Miranda@modemcable204.232-203-24.mc.videotron.ca) 13.48.29 Join wpyh [0] (n=william@125.163.4.194) 13.48.50 # anyone working on the onda port? 13.49.02 # I've made some dicoveries regarding the vx767 13.54.41 # no one? ok 13.55.25 Join midgey [0] (n=tjross@c-71-205-31-207.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) 13.55.36 # mcuelenaere: the 65 MB device exposed by the vx767 is actually an IHFS image. I've looked at it and understood the format (except for some minor details). do you want to take a look? 14.02.36 Join Schmogel [0] (n=Miranda@p3EE23025.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 14.03.07 # mcuelenare: so if I'm right, the recovery procedure is as follows: 1. the device is plugged in in the "jz boot device" mode, 2. send some binary files to device (like the "usbtool 6" procedure, but I need to look at the logs first), 3. the device resets itself and comes up as a mass storage device, with a size of 65 MB, 4. write the IHFS image, 5. disconnect the device, it will boot from the IHFS image 14.03.21 # the IHFS image contains the same set of files as the firmware upgrade (HXF) file 14.03.44 # I've written a tool to split an IHFS image, but I haven't written one to create one yet :p 14.04.34 # and btw, I find that VirtualBox (the closed source edition) is useful in this case -- it can almost correctly emulate the usb, so I can examine and restore the device on Linux :) 14.05.43 Join MTee [0] (n=mtee@41.233.143.172) 14.14.09 # and one more thing: IHFS is actually more like an archive format (like tar) rather than a filesystem 14.20.32 Quit wpyh (Remote closed the connection) 14.22.10 Join wpyh [0] (n=william@125.163.4.194) 14.23.40 Join faemir [0] (n=faemir@88-106-180-165.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) 14.23.50 Quit wpyh (Client Quit) 14.28.21 Join mcuelenaere [0] (n=mcuelena@rockbox/developer/mcuelenaere) 14.28.27 # wpyh: very interesting :) 14.28.47 # bah he just left 14.37.14 Nick fxb__ is now known as fxb (n=felixbru@h1252615.stratoserver.net) 14.52.11 Quit nplus (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 14.52.29 Join nplus [0] (n=nplus@141.25.globcom.net) 14.56.52 Join jmworx [0] (n=jeval@mail.octasic.com) 14.56.58 # preglow: ping 14.58.58 # wpyh (if you read logs): does the IHFS resemble the HXF structure completely perhaps? if so, there are tools for it to extract and join in SVN.. 15.00.34 Join XavierGr [0] (n=xavier@rockbox/staff/XavierGr) 15.01.55 Join LambdaCalculus37 [0] (i=44a0430f@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-3622876eb774e740) 15.02.23 Join Horscht [0] (n=Horscht@xbmc/user/horscht) 15.12.15 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 15.37.34 Quit nplus (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 15.38.02 # jmworx: yo 15.38.42 # pixelma: like which? 15.38.44 # preglow: I'm trying to do some footprint reduction in Speex and I was curious to know whether you'd done anything for that 15.39.05 # jmworx: hmm, no, nothing you could reuse, speex is already plenty small enough for us :) 15.39.10 # preglow: ignore that 15.39.19 # pixelma: can do ;) 15.39.55 # preglow: in case it's useful, I'm also trying to have the modes "self-contained", i.e. to only allocate a single block 15.40.31 # this reminds me i haven't synced rockbox speex in a while 15.51.05 Quit goffa (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 15.51.13 Part tehpaper 15.52.15 Join goffa [0] (n=goffa@216.220.23.105) 15.56.28 Quit Horscht ("I got raided by the FBI and all i got is this lousy quit message") 15.59.00 Quit JdGordon (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 16.01.23 Join nplus [0] (n=nplus@141.25.globcom.net) 16.01.23 Join JdGordon [0] (n=jonno@c210-49-163-174.smelb2.vic.optusnet.com.au) 16.04.14 Join BigBambi [0] (n=Alex@rockbox/staff/BigBambi) 16.05.11 Nick JdGordon is now known as JdGordon|zzz (n=jonno@rockbox/developer/JdGordon) 16.09.01 # I have some questions regarding Rockbox's GPLv2 and Creative's copyright 16.09.10 # http://pastebin.com/d6ca060f3 is a copy of it 16.09.23 # look at 10. Decompiling, Disassembling, or Reverse Engineering 16.09.39 # they state "you may not decompile, (..) or engage in any other activities to obtain underlying information that is not visible to the user in connection with normal use of the Software" 16.09.48 # could this be a problem? 16.11.05 # for you as a person, maybe. 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If you want to cross-compile sansapatcher.exe from Linux, you need to the install the "mingw32" cross-compiler and then type "make sansapatcher.exe" 16.45.47 # petur: I searched a bit for sansapatcher but didn't find... 16.46.03 # webguest58: like linuxstb said, the README says it all 16.46.14 # linuxstb:ok, I'am reading 16.46.39 # petur: Perhaps the AGC modes should be named more descriptively, rather than with an example 16.47.22 # all is here, thanks to you 16.48.29 Join jvm_ [0] (n=jvm@g226142234.adsl.alicedsl.de) 16.48.44 # rasher: agreed - but will look at it after the recscreen changes, otherwise it is too many changes at once 16.49.13 # preglow: what did you do about disabling the encoder? 16.49.30 # (I'm currently adding a bunch of #ifdefs) 16.50.42 # hi. i tried to build rockbox from svn for an arm architecture (ipod nano); the uisimulator built successfully, but when i chose 'Normal', i get this error while compiling: /usr/local/arm-elf/lib/gcc/arm-elf/4.0.3/../../../../arm-elf/bin/ld: /home/jvm/Desktop/rockbox/build/apps/lang.o: Relocations in generic ELF (EM: 3); /home/jvm/Desktop/rockbox/build/apps/lang.o: could not read symbols: File in wrong format 16.51.03 # i would be grateful for any hints? 16.51.34 # Did you run make clean between the uisimulator and normal builds ? 16.51.42 # no. 16.51.44 # let me try. 16.52.30 # jvm_: it is best to build sim and target in different directories 16.52.59 Quit midkay (Connection timed out) 16.53.13 # petur, thanks for the info. maybe it would be a good idea to underline this a little bit more in the manual. 16.53.48 # manual or wiki? You can get wiki write access if you want ;) 16.55.53 # is that normal that I have warnings when building sansas bootloader? 16.56.07 # fresh svn, no patches 16.56.43 # webguest58: I don't think so: http://build.rockbox.org/dev.cgi 16.57.17 # webguest58: did you run configure before setting the PATH correctly ? 16.58.00 # I typed configure when I was in the good direectorie 16.58.25 Quit BigBambi (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 16.58.53 # errors in lcd_yux_420_lines function 16.59.00 # *yuv 16.59.56 # multiple definition of lcd_write_yuv_420_lines ... 17.00.51 Quit midgey () 17.01.10 Quit Nibbler ("Ex-Chat") 17.12.19 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 17.14.57 Quit Thundercloud (Remote closed the connection) 17.15.28 Quit pbryan ("See ya.") 17.18.00 Quit Horscht (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 17.18.51 Join Horscht [0] (n=Horscht@p4FD4C7CC.dip.t-dialin.net) 17.21.00 Join mazling [0] (i=largeear@host86-140-23-181.range86-140.btcentralplus.com) 17.21.51 Quit m0f0x__ (Client Quit) 17.22.03 Quit webguest58 ("CGI:IRC") 17.22.14 Join coatman [0] (n=root@ppp-70-246-139-237.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net) 17.23.23 Quit coatman (Client Quit) 17.24.16 Join coatman [0] (n=root@ppp-70-246-139-237.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net) 17.25.03 Join tvelocity [0] (n=tony@athedsl-4409051.home.otenet.gr) 17.26.28 Quit mazling (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 17.30.20 # jmworx: didn't do much but just stuff in a bunch of ifdefs myself 17.33.51 Quit Nico_P ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") 17.40.27 Join pbryan [0] (n=pbryan@209.52.48.162) 17.43.27 Join m0f0x [0] (n=m0f0x@189-47-8-55.dsl.telesp.net.br) 17.48.34 Join Nibbler [0] (n=Nibbler@HSI-KBW-091-089-240-203.hsi2.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de) 17.51.27 Quit MTee ("Java user signed off") 17.51.47 Join Thundercloud [0] (n=thunderc@84-51-130-71.judith186.adsl.metronet.co.uk) 17.55.36 Join Nico_P [50] (n=nicolas@rockbox/developer/NicoP) 18.01.28 Quit Schmogel (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 18.02.16 Quit coatman (Remote closed the connection) 18.04.30 Join coatman [0] (n=jacob@ppp-70-246-139-237.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net) 18.04.40 Quit coatman (Client Quit) 18.04.55 Join coatman [0] (n=coatman@ppp-70-246-139-237.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net) 18.06.34 Join herrwaldo [0] (n=waldo@ip-81-11-218-127.dsl.scarlet.be) 18.12.18 Join jvm__ [0] (n=jvm@e176230017.adsl.alicedsl.de) 18.14.58 Quit jvm__ (Client Quit) 18.15.45 Join Mathiasdm [0] (n=Mathias@vpna061.ugent.be) 18.16.51 Quit jvm_ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 18.20.57 Join miepchen^schlaf [0] (n=miepchen@p54BF77AD.dip.t-dialin.net) 18.21.37 Join bertrik [0] (n=bertrik@ip117-49-211-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl) 18.24.46 Quit petur ("work->home") 18.30.12 Join nuonguy [0] (n=john@c-71-198-1-139.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) 18.31.48 Join AhtiK [0] (n=ahti@88-196-185-130-dsl.rgu.estpak.ee) 18.34.05 Quit amiconn (" brb") 18.36.52 # ah yes gevaerts: there was someone (vitja) a couple of days agoo who asked for some USB porting help for the TCC7x targets (iAudio 7) 18.37.11 # I don't know if he still has problems or how far he got, but if he shows up.. 18.37.30 # Yes, linuxstb told me. 18.37.38 # ok 18.37.39 Join amiconn [50] (n=jens@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 18.43.35 # amiconn: Seen the updates in FS#9148? I'm pretty sure he's having some sort of multibyte problem with his TTS engine or Windows, but I can't quite grok what 18.44.29 # no 18.44.44 # Why the flaming hell does email notification from the tracker not work? 18.45.11 # I seem to be getting the mails 18.45.35 # works for me too 18.45.36 # Now he added escaping to voice.pl, which is likely to break other languages, I presume 18.45.46 # And I still don't understand what's going on, really 18.47.32 Quit coatman (Remote closed the connection) 18.47.59 Quit Bensawsome (Connection timed out) 18.49.20 # I don't understand it either. The change in sapi_voice.vbs would break it for all other languages as well 18.49.48 # Either his japanese.lang isn't utf-8, or japanese windows does something weird I don't know and can't verify either 18.50.57 # Windows (32 bit and up) always uses unicode internally, but UTF-16 18.51.21 # But we already handle that, right? 18.51.24 # Our voice files are UTF-8, and passing the strings from perl to vbscript auto-extends them to utf-8 18.51.30 # Err, utf-16 18.51.57 # * rasher checks the langfile he just uploaded 18.52.05 # But since windows doesn't know the source is utf-8, it expands the stuff as if it were iso8859-1 (or more precisely, win1252) 18.52.29 # Oh dear. Won't that be it, then? 18.52.49 # No, that's what UTF8decode() in sapi_voice.vbs is about 18.53.04 # But maybe Japanese windows doesn't assume win1252? 18.53.20 # Hmm 18.53.25 # Wouldn't be completely surprising, really 18.53.26 # But what does it assume, then? 18.53.36 # I wonder what russian windows does here 18.53.49 # The local character set, whichever that is? 18.54.06 # So far we had no report regarding sapi voice building not working for russian, afaik 18.54.13 # Has anyone tried? 18.54.54 # Also, given that russian is slightly less exotic, it's still somewhat plausible that windows might have different behavior in Japanese 18.55.04 # The weird thing is that while the windows console *can* handle utf-8, there is no way (I know of) to set utf-8 support anywhere else 18.55.55 # And for the windows console, you can only set utf-8 support via a program using it (that's what the win32 sims do), and the console must be using ttf fonts in order for utf-8 support to work 18.55.55 # The language file is certainly in UTF-8 18.56.10 # hmm 18.56.31 # I wonder what the extend-to-16-bit-on-passing does on japanese windows, then 18.56.35 # So I suppose we can quite safely assume that his windows is translating from something else? 18.56.59 # Maybe a few test-scripts are in order? 18.57.03 # I also wonder whether that behaviour can be changed, and how 18.57.51 # I'm not going to be much help there 18.58.19 # Should I go open a new task so we can track that seperately? 18.59.03 Join petur [50] (n=petur@rockbox/developer/petur) 18.59.55 # * rasher does so 19.00.39 # The escape idea is in fact not bad - it removes the uncertainty regarding charsets on string passing 19.01.19 # * rasher looks at it again 19.01.47 # Ah, he escapes to byte-values.. 19.02.14 # Yes, and then the change in sapi_voice.vbs makes sense. It's just not very elegant 19.02.25 # That's rather nasty, really :\ But if that's the only way we can be sure Windows gets the right values, I guess that's what we'll have to do 19.02.45 Join avis [0] (n=ident@pdpc/supporter/student/avis) 19.03.45 Join coatman [0] (i=coatman@ppp-70-246-139-237.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net) 19.04.04 Quit Horscht ("We don't make mistakes, we just have happy little accidents") 19.06.30 # rasher: Does perl have a function to convert utf-8 to utf-16? 19.06.41 # I should hope so 19.06.43 # This would save us quite some work in the .vbs 19.07.23 Join Horscht [0] (n=Horscht@xbmc/user/horscht) 19.07.42 # I do remember that Perl is too clever for its own good when it comes to characters sets though. It might not be as easy as it should be. I'll have a look 19.08.27 Quit miepchen^schlaf () 19.10.55 Quit m0f0x ("reboot") 19.12.09 # Ugh, I just discovered an old patch on the tracker that I should've fixed and committed ages ago, related to character sets 19.12.23 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 19.13.35 # Hmm, I wonder whether we can assume perl 5.8 or higher... 19.13.35 # amiconn: Wouldn't correct_string be a reasonable place to do character set conversion? That means we can do it as fine-grained as we like (this one in the tracker needs latin-1 for Viavoice on Linux) 19.13.53 Join OlivierBorowski [0] (n=OlivierB@sab57-5-88-179-80-205.fbx.proxad.net) 19.14.43 Join m0f0x [0] (n=m0f0x@189-47-8-55.dsl.telesp.net.br) 19.15.02 Quit nplus (Remote closed the connection) 19.15.14 # amiconn: it was released 6 before the Rockbox project started (or just about). I should hope people have updated by now. 19.15.30 # Scratch the 6 19.15.36 Quit linuxstb (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 19.15.43 # really? 19.16.20 Join nplus [0] (n=nplus@141.25.globcom.net) 19.17.01 # 5.8.0 2002-Jul-18 19.17.09 # Maybe I have my history wrong, but it was a LONG time ago at any rate 19.17.45 # That's three whole weeks after rockbox 1.0 19.18.23 # wow 19.18.37 # * amiconn thought it was newer, for some reason... 19.19.11 # My cygwin installation has perl 5.10.0 now, but I do update it frequently... 19.19.57 Join miepchen^schlaf [0] (n=miepchen@p54BF77AD.dip.t-dialin.net) 19.20.49 Join nplus_ [0] (n=nplus@141.25.globcom.net) 19.21.03 Quit nplus (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 19.22.42 # amiconn: Something like this: http://pastebin.ca/1093954 (untested, but the idea) 19.23.26 # I was thinking about using perl IO layers to set the encoding 19.23.38 # No additional module or function call needed for this 19.23.50 # But another layer of magic :\ 19.24.10 # If passing plain utf-16 to the script works, everything becomes simpler than it is now 19.24.33 # http://perl-xml.sourceforge.net/faq/#encoding_conversion 19.25.58 # I guess the encoding layer idea works, but "my" method allows us to do it per-tts (which is needed for FS#8589 which I stumbled over) 19.26.12 # That is, if it actually works. I've no idea if that's the case. 19.26.54 Quit Nibbler ("Ex-Chat") 19.26.55 # It could still be used per tts 19.28.21 # True. It's unlikely to be needed for a lot of cases anyway. 19.29.06 # Do you want to have a go at it? I don't have a setup to create SAPI voices, and I'm afraid of touching the .vbs anyway 19.29.47 # I'm trying it as we speak 19.30.04 # Bah, using // for a comment certainly won't work in vbs... 19.32.49 # Hmm, that doesn't work... 19.33.11 # * amiconn needs to read up a bit on vbscript and its standard io streams 19.33.22 Join bluebrother [0] (n=dom@rockbox/staff/bluebrother) 19.33.46 Quit jmworx (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 19.34.21 Join jmworx [0] (n=jeval@mail.octasic.com) 19.39.46 # It might be possible to do this using the FileSystemObject. It allows opening the standard streams in unicode mode 19.39.52 # * amiconn will try this 19.42.48 # there is something really weird going on in the viewport code... 19.42.58 Quit daurn (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 19.43.29 # after a few executions a certain call to clear_viewport() is no longer done 19.43.36 Join daurn [0] (n=daurnima@unaffiliated/daurnimator) 19.45.18 # after a gui_syncsplash(0,...) I do a set _viewport() and then clear_viewport() but the splash stays 19.45.35 Quit m0f0x (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 19.46.51 # lcd_update_viewport()? 19.48.35 # hmmmm 19.49.03 # (or the respective screen api thing) 19.49.16 # that's it probably... thanks 19.49.40 Join globi [0] (n=Drk@2001:470:1f12:d3:0:0:0:2) 19.50.07 # hi 19.53.07 # globi: Do you have a question? 19.54.01 # rasher: no 19.54.15 # This isn't a social channel. 19.54.43 # * petur looks at the other lurkers 19.55.02 # * gevaerts lurks innocently 19.58.43 Join snoh [0] (n=dave@cpc1-sout6-0-0-cust616.sotn.cable.ntl.com) 20.05.24 Join linuxstb [0] (n=linuxstb@rockbox/developer/linuxstb) 20.06.01 # hmmmm 20.06.22 # rasher: Perl seems to be unaware that the strings are utf-8 20.06.42 # Iiuc utf-8 is the standard encoding in perl, so I wonder why... 20.07.06 # amiconn: I guess it doesn't make assumptions for stuff it gets from the outside? 20.07.28 # I'm not sure how this works 20.07.28 # exactly 20.07.33 # use open IN => ':utf8'; 20.07.47 # etc 20.07.55 # Iiuc the line that reads the voice strings is for (`$cmd`) 20.08.11 # ...i.e. uses backticking and catches the command's stdout? 20.08.38 # And puts it in $_, one line at a time 20.08.43 # that works, but the line I just posted is needed to tell perl to treat the input as utf8 20.09.00 Nick nplus_ is now known as nplus (n=nplus@141.25.globcom.net) 20.09.00 # hmm 20.09.22 # But if I change this, other tts engines might break 20.09.44 Part pixelma 20.09.57 # I doubt it - the input won't change, Perl will just be AWARE that it's utf8, rather than blindly passing it along 20.10.06 # Again, iiuc. 20.10.08 # hmm 20.11.12 # rasher: But then it would need to know it should output utf-8 as well (by default - changeable per engine later) 20.11.47 # Won't it do that by default, then? I'm guessing here though.. 20.13.11 # Why would it do that by default for stdout, but not stdin? 20.13.36 # I guess these things can't be tested on a recent linux, as linux usually sets utf-8 anyway 20.13.58 # it's easy to change to any other charset in a terminal 20.14.17 # I mean encodig 20.15.26 # amiconn: Outputting is different from input, in that perl doesn't have to make assumptions for input. It can simply say "these are bytes, I don't know what they are", but for output, it will default to using UTF8 20.15.38 # If I do this, in addition to use binmode() to set the encoding for passing data to the vbscript, and using stdin in unicode mode within the vbs, UTF8decode() can go :) 20.16.28 # That is: use open IN => ':utf8'; at the top, together with the other use ... things 20.16.31 # what does LAN_CROSSFEED "Crossfeed" indicate? Is this the time between two songs where both are playing at the same time? 20.16.52 # binmode(*CMD_IN, ':encoding(utf16)'); in init_tts() for sapi 20.17.29 # ...and using FileSystemObject to get access to STDIN in unicode mode in the .vbs 20.18.13 # this whole menu confuses me, Settings->Sound Settings->Crossfeed, what is crossfeed? 20.18.29 # Now the questions are (1) whether this works on japanese windows and (2) whether this breaks other tts engines 20.18.30 # crossfeed blends some sound from the left channel into the right channel and vice versa 20.18.54 # ((2) could only be due to the use open IN thing) 20.18.56 # also what is dithering? Settings->Sound Settings->Dithering 20.19.03 # crossfade fades out the old song while fading in a new song 20.20.08 # bertrik: thank you. Can you explain what direct gain, cross gain, high frequency attentuation and high-frequency cutoff are? 20.20.20 # dithering adds a tiny bit of noise to improve effective resolution 20.21.16 # bertrik: sorry but that went way over my head 20.21.55 # num1, isn't it explained in the manual? 20.22.05 Join ompaul [0] (n=ompaul@gnewsense/friend/ompaul) 20.22.38 # * num1 goes to check the manual 20.24.55 Join coatman_ [0] (i=coatman@ppp-70-246-139-237.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net) 20.25.11 # And there's indeed a bug in the vbscript regarding the unknown vendor warning 20.25.19 # It has to be written to stderr, not stdout 20.27.07 Quit nuonguy ("This computer has gone to sleep") 20.27.28 Join frinkazoid [0] (n=waldo@ip-81-11-223-32.dsl.scarlet.be) 20.28.05 Join AceNik [0] (n=AceNik@117.98.96.246) 20.30.15 Quit globi ("Lost terminal") 20.30.51 Quit scorche (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 20.31.52 Quit herrwaldo (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 20.31.54 Join scorche [0] (i=Blah@rockbox/administrator/scorche) 20.33.27 Part AceNik 20.33.56 Quit mcuelenaere () 20.34.02 Quit bluebrother (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 20.35.25 Join wpyh [0] (n=william@125.163.18.123) 20.36.50 Join jhulst [0] (n=jhulst@unaffiliated/jhulst) 20.38.02 # mcuelenaere: how unfortunate :p 20.38.34 # mcuelenaere: I think I'd just put it on pastebin; here's the document describing the IHFS format: http://pastebin.ca/1094015 20.39.01 Join bluebrother [0] (n=dom@rockbox/staff/bluebrother) 20.39.51 # mcuelenaere: and here's the source for ihfs_split, the tool for splitting an IHFS image into files: http://pastebin.ca/1094017 20.42.35 Quit coatman (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 20.42.57 # mcuelenaere: regarding your question: HXF and IHFS are very different; I haven't read the source for HXFsplit, but I can see that it doesn't have the same logic / structure as IHFS... however, they are related (for example, the FW revision/timestamp), so I think it would be useful to have some kind of hxf2ihfs utility 20.43.27 Join AceNik [0] (n=AceNik@117.98.96.246) 20.47.00 # I've also experimented some more with the OF... it will complain if we try to reflash using the same firmware and refuse to flash it. however, I found that if I change the timestamp in the hxf file, then it will reflash the firmware. so I think the timestamp is used to identify same firmware versions and avoid flashing it twice 20.47.13 # sorry for my bad english, I'm very sleepy right now 20.47.43 # can anyone help me with a hardware problem i just need 5 minutes in private 20.48.24 Quit jhulst (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 20.48.45 Join jhulst [0] (n=jhulst@unaffiliated/jhulst) 20.48.53 # rasher: Could you perhaps check something for me (regarding the non-working notifications)? 20.49.10 # amiconn: I can try 20.49.53 # If you're logged into fs, you can edit your profile by clicking on your name. I'd like to know what 'Notify type' you have set 20.50.15 # amiconn: That's set to Email 20.50.32 # mcuelenaere: looking at the firmware flashing screen, I think there is even some kind of hxf2ihfs routine inside the firmware :p 20.50.33 # Interesting. Mine is set to 'None', which explains why I don't get emails. 20.50.35 # amiconn u have an h10 right ? 20.50.48 # amiconn: That would probably do it yes 20.51.01 # But I don't understand _why_ it's set to 'None'. It _definitely_ used to work earlier 20.54.21 # amiconn: I think the same happened to me - I used to have notifications set to email, then they stopped (probably about 6 months or more ago). But I didn't care, as I subscribe to the mailing list so get them all. Maybe the settings got reset as the result of a flyspray upgrade? 20.54.50 Part wpyh 20.55.41 Join jhulst_ [0] (n=jhulst@unaffiliated/jhulst) 20.55.54 Quit coatman_ ("See You All Later") 20.57.26 Quit AceNik ("Trillian (http://www.ceruleanstudios.com") 20.57.27 Join gromit`` [0] (n=gromit@ALagny-154-1-9-243.w83-112.abo.wanadoo.fr) 21.02.59 Quit Nico_P (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 21.05.26 Quit jhulst (No route to host) 21.05.46 Quit gromit` (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 21.08.35 # rasher: Patch is up now (I almost overlooked that you've moved the code part to a new task...) 21.09.55 # amiconn: I'll see what I can do to test it 21.10.01 Join mf0102 [0] (n=michi@85.127.20.176) 21.12.26 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 21.13.16 Join midgey [0] (n=tjross@c-71-205-31-207.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) 21.14.25 # Meh. 'svn diff' is clever enough to cope with both LF and CRLF formatted files. 'patch', however, is not 21.14.54 # amiconn: a buildlog with V=1 seems to suggest it's passing things correctly as UTF8. I can't test the actual voice file though, because I don't have a Danish tts 21.15.46 # Did 'patch' work for you? 21.15.54 # No problems there 21.15.58 # I get failed hunks... 21.16.19 # amiconn: did you try --ignore-whitespace? 21.16.23 Join jhulst__ [0] (n=jhulst@adsl-99-155-147-68.dsl.klmzmi.sbcglobal.net) 21.16.29 # Weirdness 21.18.00 Quit jhulst_ (No route to host) 21.19.08 # Ah, using --binary does the trick 21.19.18 # Weird, but if it works... 21.19.24 # * amiconn will add a comment 21.23.50 Join mcuelenaere [0] (n=mcuelena@rockbox/developer/mcuelenaere) 21.24.25 # rasher: V=1 is what I used to test my changes (building a german voice file), and the resulting voice file works properly (including the tts specific corrections) 21.24.41 Quit frinkazoid (Remote closed the connection) 21.25.08 # wpyh: damn, I missed you again :) 21.25.14 # (for the logs) 21.25.30 Join herrwaldo [0] (n=waldo@ip-81-11-223-32.dsl.scarlet.be) 21.27.57 Join Nibbler [0] (n=Nibbler@HSI-KBW-091-089-240-203.hsi2.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de) 21.28.25 # scorche: Interested? http://cgi.ebay.com/ARCHOS-JUKEBOX-5000-MP3-PLAYER_W0QQitemZ200243783126QQihZ010QQcategoryZ114618QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem 21.29.09 Quit LambdaCalculus37 ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") 21.38.29 Join pixelma [50] (i=pixelma@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 21.39.06 Nick courtc_ is now known as courtc (n=court@c-24-99-230-218.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) 21.49.09 # wpyh (logs): did you had a chance contacting your friend who's an ex-Ingenic employee? 21.52.30 Join Stevan` [0] (i=stevan@5.dollar.sucky.sucky.at.shellium.org) 21.52.57 Quit Nibbler (Remote closed the connection) 21.53.01 Part Stevan` 21.53.54 Join Nibbler [0] (n=Nibbler@HSI-KBW-091-089-240-203.hsi2.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de) 22.03.10 Join tessarakt [0] (n=jens@e180073200.adsl.alicedsl.de) 22.03.37 Quit jhulst__ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 22.14.17 # * petur crosses some fingers 22.16.48 Join jhulst [0] (n=jhulst@unaffiliated/jhulst) 22.17.23 # are the peakmeters still two lines in every case? 22.17.51 # sorry 22.18.12 # want it as a setting? 22.19.40 # \o/ green :) 22.19.54 # * petur now waits for the green delta 22.20.13 # it just feels like such a waste on the small screens/with a big font. I don't know, a setting isn't nice either 22.20.30 Quit bluebrother (Nick collision from services.) 22.20.35 Join bluebrother [0] (n=dom@rockbox/staff/bluebrother) 22.21.59 # * rasher wonders about the ZVM deltas 22.23.14 # something flipped over a boundary? 22.23.38 # meh, I thought the gain was more... 22.23.57 # Or some sort of host-dependent thing, check the ZVM 30GB further down 22.24.03 # seen those jumping in big steps lately (some alignment issue or so?) 22.24.04 # rasher: it's a known bug 22.24.33 Join Xerion_ [0] (i=xerion@82-170-197-160.ip.telfort.nl) 22.25.07 # pixelma: what do you suggest? Have single-line peakmeters if lcd height is below xx ? 22.25.46 # coldfire targets have the biggest binsize decrease 22.26.50 # petur: maybe not depending on lcd height but on how many lines fit 22.27.27 # (if that is possible) 22.27.46 # you mean if 4 fit, use 1 line for pm and 1 for list; if 5 fit use 1 for pm and 2 for list,... 22.29.19 # anyway, one of the reasons I stuck with 2 lines was because of the optional clipcounter in front of it ;) 22.29.46 # and what to do with the trigger bar? 22.30.25 # we will be in special screen positioning hell before we know it :( 22.34.26 # you should see them on the Archos screen (with nedore-9)... 22.34.48 # Shouldn't people in docs/MAINTAINERS be committers, ideally? 22.34.52 # or maybe on an Iriver remote (though these are at least a bit wider 22.34.55 # ) 22.35.21 # I guess it's not necessary for translation maintainers, it just feels a bit wrong. 22.36.00 # pixelma: I checked on my iriver remote and it looked fine 22.36.25 # I expect to get requests soon about doubling the height ;) 22.36.54 # have square peakmeters? :\ 22.37.11 # and nothing else on the screen? 22.41.14 # petur: imagine the 2 line peakmeters on the Iriver remote to only be 90 pixels wide with the same height, and you'll get a better idea on how they look on an Archos screen 22.41.47 Quit Xerion (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 22.41.47 Nick Xerion_ is now known as Xerion (i=xerion@82-170-197-160.ip.telfort.nl) 22.42.24 # does docs/MAINTAINERS also contain ports-in-progress? 22.45.06 # petur: I can understand the special casing argument though (same as with the filename line). It just looks wrong (to me) but ok... 22.45.36 # pixelma: I will certainly think about a solution 22.49.46 Join quigon [0] (n=Matias@200.61.187.185) 22.58.03 Quit petur ("*plop*") 22.58.39 Join GodEater__ [0] (n=ge@rockbox/staff/GodEater) 22.59.16 Quit GodEater_ (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 23.00.46 Quit JdGordon|zzz (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 23.01.36 Join AceNik [0] (n=AceNik@117.98.23.106) 23.03.41 Join tibaza [0] (n=edwardlu@69.241.19.12) 23.04.26 # rasher: Are there many translators in MAINTAINERS but not COMMITTERS? There are two ways to fix that... 23.05.04 # linuxstb: I just noticed the Finnish translator. I don't know if it's a problem, really. It just struck me as odd 23.05.13 # mcuelenaere: I don't think that would hurt... 23.05.19 # ok 23.05.25 # I agree, it does feel a bit odd. But not a big deal. 23.06.20 Quit num1 ("Leaving.") 23.06.29 Join RoC_MasterMind [0] (n=Free@c-24-127-250-250.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) 23.07.36 Quit tibaza (Remote closed the connection) 23.07.57 # added 23.10.34 Quit Seed (Nick collision from services.) 23.11.02 Join Seed [0] (n=ben@bzq-84-108-237-178.cablep.bezeqint.net) 23.12.29 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 23.13.06 Quit Seed (Nick collision from services.) 23.13.33 Join Seed [0] (n=ben@bzq-84-108-237-178.cablep.bezeqint.net) 23.14.39 Quit OlivierBorowski (Remote closed the connection) 23.18.25 Part AceNik 23.18.26 Quit Seed (Nick collision from services.) 23.18.59 Quit Mathiasdm ("Invisible Internet Project: http://www.i2p2.de") 23.24.04 Quit RoC_MasterMind ("Leaving") 23.25.35 # anyone knows where I can download this file: http://hcs64.com/rockbox/itdb2tc01.zip I'm getting an error as 23.25.35 # Bandwidth Limit Exceeded 23.26.19 # what is that? 23.27.02 # is a tool to convert an iTunde db to the database of RockBox 23.27.04 # look: 23.27.11 # http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/ConvertiTunesDBtoTagCache 23.28.11 Join jvm_ [0] (n=jvm@e176230017.adsl.alicedsl.de) 23.30.18 Join Bensawsome [0] (n=Bensawso@unaffiliated/bensawsome) 23.31.58 # quigon: well, you noticed the red note at the top of that page? 23.32.12 # let me see... hehe 23.33.03 # well, great, now I've to see where I find it. 23.33.25 # quigon: I don't think there exists an updated version 23.33.31 # and you don't really need one 23.33.52 # Do you think, that I can play the music with out that? 23.34.07 # rockbox can make its own db from the files you have, yes 23.34.32 # but the things, that this files has randoms names, and are writed in the iTunes DB 23.35.04 # yes, but you know what? the files still know the artist and title etc 23.35.14 # by shear magic I hear 23.35.23 # or was it id3 tags? 23.35.24 # yes, I'm seeing, I've it now 23.35.28 Quit Nibbler ("Ex-Chat") 23.35.45 # I don't know what I touch.... 23.35.50 # Bagder: no, Rockbox uses a crystal ball ;-) 23.36.08 # lol 23.36.14 # the very latest crystal ball technology is awesome! 23.36.45 # quigon: but really, how to make the db is described in the manual 23.37.07 # ok, thanks a lot! 23.37.17 Join BoD[] [0] (n=BoD@JRAF.org) 23.37.20 # of course this requires use of a crystal ball, but fortunately Rockbox is capable of doing that for you *g* 23.37.23 # Hello, World! 23.37.45 # hmm. There is no user world in this channel ... 23.37.47 # Hey can anyone explain to me this sentence on the CustomWPS page: "Note: Viewports can share identifiers so you don't end up with bloated code like %?C<%Vda%Vdb%Vdc|%Vde%Vdf%Vdg>. " 23.38.16 # how can a declaration identifier be shared? 23.38.31 # BoD[]: I guess it means you can define two different viewports with the same name 23.38.43 # i.e. it's not a unique identifier 23.38.58 # ok but then how is it displayed? 23.39.11 # %Vda will display all the "a" viewports 23.39.17 # ahhhhhh 23.39.23 # hmm 23.40.08 # I guess a positive example (i.e. what you _can_ do) would have been more useful than an example of what you can't do. 23.41.39 # guys, thanks for the help, I can hear all my Music now! 23.41.44 # may the force be with you! 23.42.09 Quit quigon ("chau") 23.42.22 # the thing I don't understand is that the content of the viewport is what is after the viewport display directive 23.42.35 # so if you display them all in one directive 23.42.41 # then what about the content? 23.42.55 Quit jmworx ("Ex-Chat") 23.43.41 # BoD[]: I don't understand what you don't understand... The content of a viewport is what is between two %V (or %Vl) tags. 23.43.54 # (or between a %V and the end of the .wps file) 23.44.39 # i want to develop a simple application for rockbox. any hints where i should start? 23.44.49 # I don't know I guess I'm just tired :) 23.44.52 # is there an api documentation somewhere? 23.44.52 # jvm_: apps/plugins/hello_world.c 23.45.17 # it's just I've been trying to have a viewport for album art and another one for no album art, and I can't make it work 23.45.18 # And the source to the other plugins, and maybe there is some info on the wiki. There is a GraphicsAPI wiki page. 23.45.26 # should be simple! 23.45.44 # I'll try again tomorrow 23.45.46 # BoD[]: Have you tried looking at other WPSs that have that feature? 23.45.52 # yes 23.46.08 # but they have severa %Vl|a and I don't get it :)) 23.46.12 # several 23.46.13 # what would i have to do to see the hello_world plugin in the rockbox menu? 23.46.20 Join safetydan [0] (n=evertond@rockbox/developer/safetydan) 23.46.41 # jvm_: Add "hello_world.c" to apps/plugins/SOURCES, then compile and install Rockbox. 23.46.59 # Or rather, helloworld.c 23.47.21 # thank you, linuxstb 23.48.15 # linuxstb, are the stdio file functions supported? 23.48.38 # open/read/write are 23.49.32 # You need to access all core functions via the plugin api - i.e. "rb->functionname();" See plugin.h for the available functions. We try to be POSIX compliant as much as possible. 23.49.55 Quit bertrik ("Leaving") 23.50.15 # If you look on the wiki, I think there are also one or two guides to writing plugins 23.52.51 # ok my viewport is working 23.52.57 # how does the file structure look like? i mean, if i do rb->open(path, flags), what does the path have to be to access the text file foo.bar in root? 23.53.34 # "/foo.bar" 23.53.37 # jvm_: / is root so /foo.bar 23.53.39 # thanks guys 23.55.06 # i saw /rocks/apps/dict.desc in the dict.c plugin. does this realy mean, that there has to be an rocks/apps/ directory, or is /rocks for example mapped to the rockbox data directory? 23.55.43 # "rocks" lives inside the .rockbox directory - I would expect the dict.c to specify that 23.56.09 # It does - ROCKBOX_DIR 23.56.24 # yeah, didn't look properly. 23.56.25 # okay. 23.57.20 # thanks linuxstb and safetydan, you were a big help. bye. 23.57.27 Quit jvm_ ("Leaving") 23.57.27 Quit jgarvey ("Leaving") 23.57.34 # * linuxstb awaits the patch