--- Log for 08.08.108 Server: calvino.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 6 days and 18 hours ago 00.00.38 Quit Zagor ("Client exiting") 00.00.39 # Kols: yes, it must be fat for rockbox to work 00.00.50 # ah ok 00.00.58 # that will be the reason then 00.01.05 # Thanks for your help 00.01.21 # when you say fat, do you mean fat16[b]? 00.01.50 Quit snoh ("GNU/Linux the free alternative to Windows") 00.01.50 # It's just "FAT" in Partition Magic, but yeah I guess that's FAT16 00.02.00 # probably not 00.02.06 # FAT16 is centuries old 00.02.15 Join cbr|w [0] (n=cbr@212.98.160.130) 00.02.23 # fat32 won't work at all with rockbox? 00.02.33 # yes it works 00.02.50 # isn't fat16 limited to 4GB partitions? 00.03.00 # doesn't FAT16 have a upper drive limit of like 2.6GB or something? 00.03.09 # -drive+partition 00.03.16 # ok, n1s's answer above was vague (to me) about whether he was saying yes to ntfs vs. fat or fat vs. fat32 00.03.34 # well my player has 40GB 00.03.41 # and I'd like to use them ofc 00.03.45 # so, don't use FAT16 :) 00.03.50 # ok :) 00.03.51 # windows will use the "right" FAT version itself. But if it's larger than 32GB it will refuse formatting as FAT 00.03.55 # fat16 has an upper limit of 2GB (4GB only under win nt4) 00.03.57 # agaffney: fat32 00.04.03 # I know about fat16's filesystem size limits, so I guess it was a stupid question :) 00.04.35 # Rockbox supports fat32 on all targets, and fat16 only on targets where you can plug memory cards 00.04.56 # (Archos Ondio SP and FM, Sansa c200 and e200) 00.04.59 # I'd be really nice if Microsoft and OpenSource folks would work on a open next gen filesystem :I 00.05.13 # The fat specs are public 00.05.15 # I didn't think anyone would try to use fat16 on a 20GB disk (especially since rockbox does not by default support more than one partition on h300) ;) 00.05.24 # FAT isn't going anywhere, I guess 00.06.16 # it's working sufficiently for most cases and it itsn't too complex 00.06.23 # *isn't 00.06.27 # oh, can rockbox play embdedded cuesheets, btw? 00.06.52 # the 4GB upper limit for filesize is... enerving 00.07.10 # Kohlrabi: many more advanced filesystems are open source but FAT32 has some nice pros, of which simplicity and widespread support are important 00.07.39 # n1s: I know that there are many OS FSs, but Microsoft won't support them, I reckon 00.08.05 # I'd be really nice to not have to fallback to FAT32 for sharing files between OSes on a machine 00.08.06 # So .... does rockbox support FAT32? 00.08.11 # or big USB sticks 00.08.32 # Kols: Scroll 4 minutes back 00.08.36 # Kols: yes :P 00.08.37 # Kols: yes, on h300 that is the only filesystem supported 00.09.00 # okay, then I guess I'll have to re-flash it 00.09.40 # also: 00:00 Kols: yes, it must be fat for rockbox to work 00.10.02 # Kohlrabi: there's an ext2 IFS driver for windows, and linux can handle ntfs with ntfs3g quite nicely 00.10.35 # yup 00.10.36 Quit Rob2223 () 00.10.38 # Kols: the filesystem has nothing to do with the flash and I thought that from the context it was clear that fat == fat32 00.10.42 # bluebrother: But afaik you can neither boot linux from ntfs, nor windows from ext2 00.10.50 # * amiconn thinks that the 00.11.24 # s/the/this is getting ot/ 00.11.35 # no. But if it's only for sharing files between the OSes that shouldn't be a real issue 00.11.43 # n1s: I have it FAT32 formatted and I have the latest .rockbox, so what's left but flashing? 00.11.52 # bluebrother: didn't the Ext2 IFS driver fux0r up the ownership and access flags? 00.12.14 # don't really remember 00.12.20 # Kohlrabi: can't remember exactly, but this is now really getting ot :) 00.12.24 Join RoC_MasterMind [0] (n=Free@c-24-127-250-250.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) 00.12.25 # didn't boot into Debian in ages, anyway 00.12.29 # true :) 00.12.32 Quit RoC_MasterMind (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 00.12.37 # Kols: I though you said you had rockbox working before reformatting, the only thing that can remove the bootloader is "uppgrading" the original firmware 00.13.02 # yeah I had it working before formatting 00.13.23 # oh, can rockbox play embdedded cuesheets, btw? 00.13.28 # How did you reformat? Did you perhaps also recreate the partition? 00.13.34 # yes 00.13.55 # Did you make a primary partition, or an extended one with a logical drive? 00.14.22 Quit ender` (" Never trust a computer you can't throw out a window. -- Steve Wozniak") 00.14.50 # I made a primary NTFS, then re-formatted with FAT32 as a logical drive 00.15.06 # Rockbox only supports primary partitions 00.15.10 # I had had plans to install winXP to the player... 00.15.28 # ok, I'll check that 00.15.33 # why does reformatting change a primary partition to a logical one? 00.15.44 # It doesn't 00.15.54 Quit Nico_P (Remote closed the connection) 00.15.54 # but it seems some tool did. 00.16.02 # I deleted the partition inbetween 00.16.11 # and recreated it 00.16.42 # * amiconn still has that as a (moderate priority) todo 00.16.57 # okay, so I need a primary FAT32 partition 00.17.43 # Gonna try that tomorrow, thanks for your help everyone 00.18.53 Quit stripwax ("Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org") 00.18.56 Quit CyBergRind|w (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00.19.31 Join jac0b|w [0] (i=42200596@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-88e65ba0dc0ca28a) 00.20.11 # amiconn: to support logical drives? 00.20.11 # could I use cygwin to install the gigabeat S firmware 00.20.55 Quit itcheg ("IceChat - Its what Cool People use") 00.21.14 Quit Nibbler (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 00.21.33 # n1s: yes 00.22.25 # for the sake of completeness or some obscure usage scenario? :) 00.23.57 # We had some problem reports in the early days of the iriver port 00.24.35 # Obviously at least some irivers were shipped with the fat32 partition being a logical drive 00.25.14 # aha 00.28.59 # afruff23: if I see correctly, the volume bitmap's y-position (top left corner) should be at 49 but the viewport you're displaying it in is only 31 pixels high... The coordinates always count from the top left corner of the viewport the %xd tag of the bitmap is in 00.29.15 Part Bensawsome ("The awsome is gone :(") 00.30.09 Quit EspeonEefi ("さよなら") 00.30.23 Join Bensawsome [0] (i=Bensawso@unaffiliated/bensawsome) 00.32.18 Quit jgarvey_ ("Leaving") 00.33.15 Quit pbryan (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00.33.49 # pixelma, the viewport the volume is in includes text as well 00.34.26 # and? 00.34.36 # so, the coordinates are correct 00.35.09 # does the nk.bin that is on the site dual-boot? 00.35.30 # afruff23: I don't understand what you want to tell me with this 00.35.31 # opps its for the gigabeat s 00.35.42 # I don't udnerstand what you were trying to tell me 00.36.10 # the y positoin has no relaiton to the height of a viewport 00.36.26 # it has a relation to the y position of the viewport though 00.36.55 Join pbryan [0] (n=pbryan@nat/sun/x-167749697de920a4) 00.37.05 Quit safetydan (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00.38.18 # afruff23: see last note in http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/CustomWPS#Images and example 2 00.38.37 Quit Kols ("Hey Peer!") 00.39.08 # thanks 00.41.02 Quit n1s () 00.44.22 # I fixed it 00.45.17 Quit jac0b|w ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") 00.46.03 Quit bluebrother ("leaving") 00.46.31 Join Rob2222 [0] (n=Miranda@p4FDCE956.dip.t-dialin.net) 00.46.40 Join krazykit [0] (n=kkit@host-69-145-35-234.static.bresnan.net) 00.49.20 Join Zarggg [0] (n=z@65-78-69-194.c3-0.eas-ubr6.atw-eas.pa.cable.rcn.com) 00.49.43 Join jac0b|w [0] (i=42200596@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-7065fa4e1dd76f7b) 00.50.36 Join safetydan [0] (n=evertond@rockbox/developer/safetydan) 00.50.36 # I am setting up cygwin and I added the RB source but its asking for a FTP password 00.52.26 Quit tessarakt ("Client exiting") 00.53.46 # n/m now it says it can't get the setup.ini.sig file 00.54.38 Quit Llorean ("Leaving.") 00.56.50 # can anyone help me with this 00.57.40 Part toffe82 00.57.48 Quit jac0b|w ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") 00.58.27 Join jhulst [0] (n=jhulst@unaffiliated/jhulst) 00.58.42 Join Llorean [0] (n=DarkkOne@ppp-70-242-15-106.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net) 00.59.38 Join sitwon [0] (n=adam@pool-71-178-171-249.washdc.fios.verizon.net) 01.00.04 Part sitwon ("Leaving") 01.01.21 Quit Bensawsome (Nick collision from services.) 01.01.34 Join Bensawesome [0] (n=Bensawso@unaffiliated/bensawsome) 01.06.55 Join troy_ [0] (n=toppy@78.147.13.167) 01.07.22 Join ompaul [0] (n=ompaul@gnewsense/friend/ompaul) 01.08.11 Join n9xvt [0] (n=187be7e0@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-40415c8f45b67ffc) 01.09.28 # if i turn on mi player,,,go into files,,,select a random mp3,,listen to the first few seconds then press the next track button 4 times mi player locks up,, 01.11.24 # presing pause or menu makes the s/w go thru the motions but nothing,, same with next track or previous track,,the display changes but nothing from the player,, 01.13.08 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 01.14.25 # going into radio,,leaves me with nothing on the screen (just the status bar) nothing? 01.15.02 # n9xvt: You've left out several important things such as what SVN revision you're using and what player you're running it on 01.16.09 # sorry,,sansa c240,,,and18198-080805 01.17.00 # That's 20 revisions behind. While it's not likely to fix your problem, we do always ask that you be using the most recent download from the site. 01.17.40 # i had the installer do it yesterday? rockbox utility? 01.18.09 Quit faemir ("Leaving") 01.18.32 # We probably average about 10 versions a day, you should always update and see if it still happens with the most recent version before reporting a problem. 01.19.34 # i did not know that,,i thought it was only one,,wow,,let me get the latest thru the utility 01.20.09 # The manual describes the fact that there are many builds each day. 01.27.20 Join sentiao [0] (n=589f8f1a@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-e3851fdf3ccc7000) 01.28.10 # ok,,still a problem,, 01.28.36 Quit sentiao (Client Quit) 01.28.41 # Okay, now you'll need to explain what you mean by "go thru the motions" 01.28.47 # the only way to get it to play seems to be shut the unit off and turn it back on 01.30.24 # the track name changes but no playing,,press menu it displays the menu,,go into radio or select a file and it will go to while playing screen and play indicator will show playing but noactually doing it,,, 01.31.08 Join Sentiao [0] (n=chatzill@26-143-ftth.onsnetnuenen.nl) 01.31.20 # So the WPS updates to show the new track metadata? 01.31.25 # If you check the playlist viewer, what does it show? 01.31.35 Nick Sentiao is now known as Sentiao-zvm (n=chatzill@26-143-ftth.onsnetnuenen.nl) 01.32.03 Quit Sentiao-zvm (Client Quit) 01.32.09 Join icefart13 [0] (n=405c3a9d@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-fc37e8ddaca9da8d) 01.32.12 Join Sentiao-zvm [0] (n=chatzill@26-143-ftth.onsnetnuenen.nl) 01.33.05 # i dont use any playlist? (just directory under files) looking under playlist just shows tracks in directory 01.33.28 Quit ompaul (Client Quit) 01.33.34 # You didn't answer my first question yet. 01.33.52 # In the playlist, though, it should indicate which track is playing. I want to know if this changes when you try to change tracks in the filetree? 01.33.54 # what is the current stage of making the firmware work on the creative zen v plus. i read the wiki but i wondered about updates. im in the market for an 8 gig player but want the ability to browse my music through folders. i hate the current interface of most players 01.33.57 # Also, have you tried resetting your settings? 01.34.11 # icefart13: The wiki and forum thread are the most up to date. 01.34.30 # ok thank you for that 01.35.05 # yes the wps updates,,i can evan go into the files and select a different file and it'll show it on the wps,,,,no time or kbit info 01.35.34 # re-setting my settings? the theme/wps? 01.35.45 # No, all settings. 01.35.54 # There's an option to do so. 01.36.02 # Or you can plug in USB and delete config.cfg in the .rockbox folder 01.36.21 # is there any way i could help speed up developement on the zen v plus 01.36.44 # icefart13: Read the thread, and do anything that's not yet done by someone 01.37.12 # i have no coding skills i thought i could get the player and test out or somehting 01.37.25 Part pixelma 01.37.50 # The people who are doing the work own players to test on. Generally speaking we need workers, not testers. 01.38.14 # o well what language would i need to learn 01.38.40 # C and the appropriate ASM for the CPU in the device. 01.39.02 Quit matsl (Remote closed the connection) 01.39.08 # i'll delete the file and report back,,it may take me a few to put mi settings back,, or should i just try it without resetting mi settings? 01.39.48 # You should try it with cleared settings. 01.39.58 # ok 01.43.43 Join maffe [0] (n=Miranda@p5B04019B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 01.43.51 Join Zarathu [0] (i=zarathu@38.104.35.170) 01.43.51 Quit icefart13 ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 01.44.26 # Hi there. I'm trying to apply a patch; before I do anything stupid, do I need to apply this patch to the Rockbox source and then compile it or is it possible to patch files in my current Rockbox installation? 01.44.49 # Source and then compile 01.45.38 Join Thundercloud [0] (n=thunderc@84-51-130-71.judith186.adsl.metronet.co.uk) 01.47.15 # problem disappeared,,,possibly,,,corrupted conifg file? 01.49.52 # Llorean: Okay, I patched it. Though, I'm not seeing a ./configure script anywhere... 01.49.56 # Is there a "How to compile" page? 01.50.21 # Zarathu: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/HowToCompile 01.51.18 # now i am having other problems,,i was trying to adjust the backlight setting and it went blank,,wont turn back on,, 01.51.19 # n9xvt: No clue. If you get it back, figure out which setting(s) cause it and post a proper bug report please. 01.51.28 # You probably set the backlight to "off" 01.51.48 # Platform set to ipodvideo 01.51.48 # Enter size of your RAM (in MB): (Defaults to 32) 01.51.58 # How do I check out how much RAM my iPod has? 01.52.21 # If it was initially a 30gb one, it's 32mb, if it was initially a 60/80 it's 64mb 01.52.31 # If you don't know (refurbished, for example) choose 32 as it's safe. 01.52.38 # I put 64. 01.54.51 # if ya cant read the display how can ya turn on the backlight? i was just scroling thru the settings and it went out? it will turn on for booting up then just goes black? 01.56.34 # works fine if i have it plugged into usb? 01.56.41 # n9xvt: If you had just pressed the cancel button, or moved up or down one again it would've been fine 01.56.45 # Now you need to clear settings again. 02.00.52 Join decayedcell [0] (n=decayed_@60-241-92-53.static.tpgi.com.au) 02.06.41 Quit Bensawesome ("The awsome is gone :(") 02.07.02 Quit krazykit ("Connection reset by beer") 02.11.56 # ok the problem seems to be that config file,,the playback problems dont seem to be there,, 02.14.30 Join User401 [0] (i=User@dsl-trebrasgw1-ff8fc300-152.dhcp.inet.fi) 02.14.42 Quit User401 (Client Quit) 02.15.11 Join ze0 [0] (i=ze@cpe-75-82-143-231.socal.res.rr.com) 02.15.33 Quit pbryan (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 02.16.48 Join EspeonEefi [0] (i=espeonee@STRATTON-EIGHTEEN.MIT.EDU) 02.18.31 Quit Sentiao-zvm ("ChatZilla 0.9.83 [Firefox 2.0.0.16/2008070205]") 02.20.20 # thanks for you're help! i think thats done the trick,,now if only my clock would keep time! lol 02.21.45 Part decayedcell 02.22.49 Quit ze (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 02.22.49 Nick ze0 is now known as ze (i=ze@cpe-75-82-143-231.socal.res.rr.com) 02.24.42 Join pbryan [0] (n=pbryan@209.52.48.162) 02.32.46 Quit perrikwp ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") 02.35.05 Quit culture (Connection timed out) 02.42.33 # Llorean: Where can I get the arm-elf-gcc compiler? 02.42.44 # I only have the standard gcc and g++ for i386. 02.44.02 # should I include the font I sued with my Theme? the font is unifont.fnt and it is about 1.3 MB 02.45.06 # Zarathu: in the /tools folder theres a shell script called rockboxdev.sh or something that can install them for you. 02.45.09 # used* 02.45.35 # M'kie doke. 02.45.37 # Thanks. 02.45.39 # i'm talking about uploading to the WPS Gallery of course 02.49.03 # I guess not since it is included with the font package 02.49.57 Quit Strogg (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 02.50.52 Join Strogg [0] (n=jean@76.10.145.36) 02.57.28 Quit Lambdumb ("Leaving") 02.57.54 Quit Schmogel ("Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org") 03.03.37 # how do you check if a folder has a thumbs.db file? 03.03.48 Nick fxb is now known as fxb__ (n=felixbru@h1252615.stratoserver.net) 03.04.14 # afruff23: That's not exactly a Rockbox question, more of a basic computer use one. 03.04.17 # Besides, you just look. 03.05.36 # afruff23, The rule of thumb should be, IMHO, if the font is in the font pack do not include it. If the font is not in the Rockbox offered font pack, include it in your WPS .zip. 03.05.51 # ASSuming you have distribution rights to said font ;) 03.13.12 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 03.14.08 Nick drf|away is now known as drfsupercenter (i=your_mom@d14-69-192-60.try.wideopenwest.com) 03.15.03 Quit Thundercloud (Remote closed the connection) 03.17.29 Quit pbryan (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 03.21.43 Quit jhulst (No route to host) 03.23.33 Join jhulst [0] (n=jhulst@unaffiliated/jhulst) 03.23.55 # what about iconsets? 03.24.11 # specifically the tango 20x16x16 iconset? 03.24.48 # it has an appropriate license to grant me distribution rights 03.26.39 Quit XavierGr (Nick collision from services.) 03.26.52 Join XavierGr [0] (n=xavier@rockbox/staff/XavierGr) 03.27.52 # how do I get the HDD activity icon to show up on the UIsimulator, I have 2 Gb of ram if that matteers? 03.30.41 Quit linuxstb (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 03.30.50 Quit jhulst (Remote closed the connection) 03.35.01 Quit DerDome (Nick collision from services.) 03.35.02 Join DerDome1 [0] (n=DerDome@dslb-082-083-195-202.pools.arcor-ip.net) 03.35.06 # _I_ think iconsets should be in the .wps files, they are so tiny as to not matter, but I'm not sure of the general consensus. 03.35.14 Nick DerDome1 is now known as DerDome (n=DerDome@dslb-082-083-195-202.pools.arcor-ip.net) 03.36.21 # In my opinion every necessary part should be included if it's a "theme" 03.36.49 # Unless we want to create some sort of "Dependency checklist" for uploads to the new theme site. 03.36.53 # That might actually be handy, though 03.37.25 # You check off which iconset and font is required, and it links to them from the theme entry so people can download. You could even mark another theme as a dependency if you were just offering an alternate .wps file or alternate backdrop for an existing theme. 03.37.49 # But, for the moment, I say "include everything necessary" 03.41.06 Nick JdGordon|zzz is now known as JdGordon (n=jonno@rockbox/developer/JdGordon) 03.41.18 Quit HellDragon (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 03.41.34 # well, including a 1.3 MB font most people already have doesn't seem very smart 03.41.56 Join HellDragon [0] (n=jd@modemcable234.136-203-24.mc.videotron.ca) 03.49.41 # i don't have a clue what caused the problems i had but you've got it working right again,,,good night,, thanks 03.50.05 Quit cbr|w (SendQ exceeded) 03.52.54 Quit neddy (Connection timed out) 03.55.13 Join MarcGuay [0] (n=chatzill@ip216-239-89-188.vif.net) 03.58.32 Join jhulst [0] (n=jhulst@unaffiliated/jhulst) 04.01.01 # Llorean, even include fonts? Or should we assume one has already installed the font-pack? 04.03.58 # Soap: I consider fonts "official files" so they shouldn't be wrapped in. 04.04.04 # Much like the official iconset, etc. 04.04.14 # Even though it's an "extras" package, it's one handled for you, by the installer. 04.04.42 # ok - then we agree. 04.04.44 # By "everything required" I meant "everything required on top of a standard, full Rockbox install" 04.08.59 Quit n9xvt ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 04.11.22 Join snowveil [0] (n=snowveil@c-76-98-144-170.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) 04.11.34 # evening all 04.12.36 # I've run into an issue with the newest firmware/bootloader revision on rockbox for a Sansa e260 04.13.12 # when attempting to build my database, it takes tremendously long (eg, I'm built up to song 8 out of about two thousand after about 2 minutes of waiting) 04.14.36 # I updated because my prior revision, though working fine with normal playback, had some support issues with a new MicroSDHC card...it would repeat songs on the card multiple times in the database 04.15.37 Join miepchen^schlaf_ [0] (n=miepchen@p54BF584F.dip.t-dialin.net) 04.15.45 Quit miepchen^schlaf (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 04.17.51 Join nuonguy [0] (n=john@c-71-198-1-139.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) 04.20.27 Quit afruff23 () 04.23.16 # snowveil: By "newest" bootloader, do you mean you've compiled a new one from source? 04.24.38 # no, it's a pre-compiled version for linux 04.25.28 Join Lambduh [0] (n=Lambda@64.6.88.58) 04.30.56 Join n9xvt_ [0] (n=IceChat7@rrcs-24-123-231-224.central.biz.rr.com) 04.31.06 Quit MarcGuay ("ChatZilla 0.9.83 [Firefox 2.0.0.16/2008070205]") 04.35.39 # nevermind :) 04.36.06 # appears as though I must have recorded some audio with my microphone, and for some reason it was hanging up upon trying to add it to the database 04.36.20 # after deleting the voice files it appears to be working fine 04.37.10 Join jfm3 [0] (n=user@c-98-221-176-228.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) 04.38.19 # Hello #rockbox. I'm installing on a 4G ipod greyscale. Used rbutilqt. Error on boot is "can't find partition." Any help appreciated! 04.38.30 Quit maffe ("IRC ist obsolet!") 04.39.17 # jfm3: This usually means your iPod is improperly formatted or has a non-standard disk 04.40.05 # Llorean: disk should be the same as the one it came with, I can show you fdisk output if that helps. 04.40.21 # "should be the same as"? 04.41.02 # Barring space aliens visiting my wife's purse and replacing her old iPod disk, yes. 04.41.11 Quit nuonguy ("This computer has gone to sleep") 04.41.26 # If it's the original disk and you haven't reformatted, why didn't you just say "It's unmodified"? 04.41.45 # I'm sorry if I was confusing. 04.42.59 # I did reformat the disk with 'sudo mkdosfs -F 32 -S 2048 -n iPod /dev/sdb2'. 04.44.09 # That would be your problem. 04.44.28 # Why did you reformat it with 2048 sized sectors/ 04.44.29 # ? 04.44.44 # Because that's what the wiki said to do. 04.44.51 # Which page? 04.44.57 # As far as I know it only says to do that for 5.5G iPods. 04.45.51 # I see. I misread the instructions. Thank you very much for your help! 04.46.46 Join coatman [0] (i=coatman@ppp-70-245-240-193.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net) 04.49.32 # Okay, this iPod is now a Rockbox. Again, thank you very much. 05.05.23 Join solexx_ [0] (n=jrschulz@e176125073.adsl.alicedsl.de) 05.11.07 Quit Seed ("cu, Andre") 05.13.15 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 05.15.10 Join CaptainKewl [0] (n=jason@207-237-173-165.c3-0.nyr-ubr4.nyr.ny.cable.rcn.com) 05.15.51 Quit XavierGr () 05.21.47 Quit solexx (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 05.24.34 Join lumino [0] (n=7db2e193@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-90f5f63fc7d05cf7) 05.25.28 Quit lumino (Client Quit) 05.25.52 Join lumino [0] (n=7db2e193@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-6ca5f6afb14eace3) 05.26.17 # hello 05.27.01 # I was wondering if anyone could tell me about the status of the official boot loader that supports dual boot on iAudio X5 05.30.09 # There's not one 05.31.15 Quit fdinel ("Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org") 05.35.22 Quit Horscht ("electromagnetic radiation from satellite debris") 05.35.39 Join Bensawsome [0] (i=Bensawso@unaffiliated/bensawsome) 05.35.51 Join n9xvt [0] (n=IceChat7@rrcs-24-123-231-224.central.biz.rr.com) 05.38.56 Quit n9xvt_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 05.45.43 Quit lumino ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 05.45.49 Nick drfsupercenter is now known as drf|away (i=your_mom@d14-69-192-60.try.wideopenwest.com) 05.45.53 Quit snowveil ("Leaving") 05.46.43 Join jhulst_ [0] (n=jhulst@unaffiliated/jhulst) 05.48.58 Join perrikwp [0] (i=4ce20572@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-00f66f3ddf9efcb3) 05.54.19 Quit Zarggg () 05.58.57 Quit jhulst (No route to host) 06.02.43 Join rikai [0] (n=blah@unaffiliated/rikai) 06.06.23 # hm.... i was just looking at the rockbox site for sansa e200, everything in the status is checked off as good except for "USB handler (ALERT!) - The Sansa recognises when the USB has been plugged in, but does nothing more."...what exactly does that mean/entail? 06.09.01 # ah.. i should have read the faq :P 06.13.40 Join mrkiko [0] (n=mrkiko@host105-28-dynamic.20-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) 06.15.31 Join pbryan [0] (n=pbryan@S010600095baae0ff.vf.shawcable.net) 06.29.52 Quit midgey () 06.36.36 Quit m0f0x () 06.52.17 Join saratoga [0] (n=9803c6dd@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-cad893f5c430549c) 06.52.46 # linuxstb: (for the logs) would you take a look at FS#9205 and tell me if you think this is a parser problem? 06.55.10 Quit saratoga (Client Quit) 07.13.20 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 07.14.22 Join n1s [0] (n=nils@rockbox/developer/n1s) 07.19.20 Join johnson4 [0] (n=46432342@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-1eecaa4f9b6faf84) 07.19.43 # hi I have some questions about installing RB on a gigabeatS 07.20.39 # Be aware the Gigabeat S is not yet a supported target. While it's possible to install and use to an extent, it is still intended for developers at this time. 07.21.50 Part n9xvt 07.22.58 # I m having trouble with sendfirm, my player is not recognized. 07.23.18 # johnson4: what OS? 07.23.32 # ubuntu 07.23.36 # LIBMTP_Get_First_Device: No Devices Attached 07.23.41 # is the output 07.24.43 # does it show up in dmesg? 07.24.58 Join jhulst [0] (n=jhulst@unaffiliated/jhulst) 07.25.41 Join nuonguy [0] (n=john@c-71-198-1-139.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) 07.26.08 # n1s How do I check that? 07.26.47 # johnson4: type in 'dmesg' in a console after you have connected the gigabeat 07.27.08 # gigabeat is turned off at this piont? 07.27.49 # it can't really be connected and turned off. 07.28.22 Quit jhulst_ (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 07.28.24 # the OF should show it's "connected" screen 07.29.42 Quit CaptainKewl (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 07.29.46 # the player doesn't respond then plugged or unplugged 07.30.04 # no "connected" screen 07.30.28 # johnson4: it is started and running the original firmware? 07.31.03 # yes 07.31.35 Quit rasher (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 07.32.01 # odd, have it ever worked with this unit? also could you try different machines/ports? 07.32.54 # in windows it connects and syncs with WMP on the same machine 07.33.56 # very strange... does usb work for other devices on the port you are using? 07.34.34 # ok just restarted the battery switch and now see the connected screen, standby 07.36.38 Join rasher [0] (n=rasher@0x5550f5a3.adsl.cybercity.dk) 07.38.34 # starts to load RB , the screen shows "init complete filenot found" 07.38.46 # then shuts down 07.39.21 # Did you extract a build? 07.40.01 # http://build.rockbox.org/dist/build-gigabeats/rockbox.zip dloaded this one 07.40.43 # First, please use real words as per the channel guidelines. 07.40.48 # Second, where did you extract it to? 07.40.58 # johnson4: well, did you unzip it so that you have a .rockbox folder in the root of the gigabeat 07.41.00 # ? 07.41.51 # n1s: I think on first boot you actually don't extract it, due to that whole MTP thing 07.42.12 # Unless you boot into bootloader USB mode and then extract it 07.42.14 # I have not been able to see the drive on my pc 07.42.21 # Extracting it in the OF's USB mode, MTP, shouldn't work. 07.42.35 # johnson4: Well, why were you expecting Rockbox to boot if you hadn't finished installing it then? 07.42.39 # Llorean: yes, but the instructions clearly state that the first thing to do after bootloader install is to get into usb mode and extracting the zip 07.43.40 # n1s: That's kinda why I asked him where he extracted the .zip to. 07.43.52 # yea my next step would be getting into usb mode but the player shuts off almost immediatly after showing the message above 07.44.04 # n1s: Your question, on the other hand, didn't specify using bootloader USB so could've been misleading. 07.44.18 # johnson4: So plug in the cable quicker. 07.44.19 # johnson4: while it's off connect usb 07.45.04 # still turns off after showing the message 07.45.18 # Llorean: I often assume that people at least skim through the instructions :/ 07.45.39 # so that they would know the general steps they need to go through 07.46.49 # johnson4: As long as the cable's plugged in it should enter USB mode before it gets to that message 07.47.02 # johnson4: Could you test other devices to be sure the USB is working properly under Ubuntu for your PC? 07.47.24 # johnson4: Rockbox's USB mode can be a little sensitive to which port etc it used on your computer, might be worth trying different ones or doing whatever you did when it didn't connect earlier 07.47.41 # ok I willl try my F 07.47.45 # F10 07.49.09 Join LinusN [0] (n=linus@rockbox/developer/LinusN) 07.50.18 Join decayedcell [0] (n=decayed_@60-241-92-53.static.tpgi.com.au) 07.50.32 # Sorry, I should specify the message reads" Gigabeat S Rockbox Bootloader version: r##### Battery: 4.0v Init complete File not found" 07.50.36 # F10 works fine 07.54.19 Quit jfm3 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 07.56.17 # Is using sendfirm again a good idea or..... 07.56.36 # does the S bootloader still extract a .tar of the .rockbox directory ? 07.56.45 # cos then he could send it over MTP ? 07.57.20 # although unless the S suddenly became "supported" over night, I'm rather confused why we're bothering =/ 07.57.26 # johnson4: no need to resend nk.bin because you evidently have a working bootloader 07.58.13 # is it normal to see "File not found" until you have .rockbox in place? 07.58.17 # yes 07.58.52 # Just normally the player would stay turned on at that piont, correct? 07.59.09 # johnson4: no, it is normal that it shuts down 07.59.12 # I've no idea, I've never been in that situation with the S 07.59.33 # but it should enter usb mode if you connect usb while it's off 07.59.54 # unless it's connected, then it stays on? 08.00.50 # the screen changes if it has ented usb mode? 08.00.57 # yes 08.00.59 # entered 08.01.01 # ok 08.01.16 # the bootloader either 1) finds rockbox.gigabeat inside the .rockbox dir and starts that. 2) fails to find the file and shuts down 3) enters usb mode if usb is connected 08.01.52 # ok thanks, that is really clear, maybe I should reboot into Win XP and see if that helps 08.02.10 Part decayedcell 08.02.17 # * GodEater repeats his earlier question re: rockbox.tar 08.02.31 # * n1s doesn't know 08.04.29 Quit johnson4 ("CGI:IRC") 08.04.32 # it seems the tar code is still present, yes 08.04.50 # just in time for him to quit ;) 08.05.12 # i guess he'll be back if windows doesn't fix it :) 08.08.11 Join johnson4 [0] (n=46432342@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-7b476a127c37b1ac) 08.09.08 Join decayedcell [0] (n=decayed_@60-241-92-53.static.tpgi.com.au) 08.09.10 # no better in Windows..... 08.10.07 # are you back in linux again now ? 08.10.56 # An important question might be where he downloaded the bootloader from. Are there any without USB enabled? 08.11.18 # I think v4.0 has it... 08.11.58 # Well yes, any recent one should have it. 08.13.10 # in Windows right now 08.13.11 Quit miepchen^schlaf_ () 08.14.33 # The bootloader is a dual-boot that was emailed to me(I didn't compile it) and it was used before in another S60 successfully 08.15.03 Quit jhulst (Remote closed the connection) 08.15.07 # Why didn't you use the official one on the wiki? 08.15.41 # No dual boot but I may just do that next 08.15.57 # The official bootloader dual boots. 08.16.11 # * GodEater would STILL go down the route of the rockbox.tar file first 08.16.15 Quit coatman ("See You All Later") 08.16.39 # GodEater: That way will almost certainly work, but either way he should be using the current-version bootloader. 08.16.54 # * GodEater would rather not render his S unchargeable 08.17.09 # What would render it unchargeable? 08.17.20 # not having dual boot 08.17.27 # unless jhMikes suddenly fixed that ? 08.17.36 # Why wouldn't you have dual boot, though? 08.18.01 # has something changed recently and we're suddenly able to distribute the OF ? 08.18.11 # No. 08.18.21 # Im confused too 08.18.25 # But he said he had a bootloader. 08.18.30 # The current bootloader dual boots. 08.18.51 # I didn't realize he meant "I was emailed a copy of the OF with the bootloader already installed" 08.19.22 # if he has a dual booting bootloader, it means he has a bootloader which includes the OF 08.19.33 # See, that's not "a bootloader" any more. 08.19.37 # I would never have made that assumption. 08.19.49 # For me, a "dual booting bootloader" is "a bootloader with code to dual boot" 08.20.05 # For example, the X5 bootloader isn't a dual booting one. The patched one with code from the tracker is a dual booting one. Neither contains the OF. 08.20.29 # I got the nk.bin file and was told it was dual booting aka switch hold for OF or Rockbox 08.20.30 # As long as it's called "a bootloader", my instant assumption would've been it's referring to just the bootloader, not "an nk.bin file" or whatever. 08.20.48 # bootloader = bootloader.bin, firmware image = nk.bin 08.21.06 # the "bootloader" for the S, is one file called nk.bin, which either has the OF in it, or it doesn't AFAIK 08.21.32 # The "bootloader" for the S is the bootloader file which can then be inserted into nk.bin 08.21.46 # Otherwise the firmware partition on the iPod is "the bootloader" under the same kind of logic you just applied. 08.22.09 # yes, but to insert it into the nk.bin, you need to HAVE the nk.bin first - which he doesn't 08.22.15 # he now has one which already has it in 08.22.23 # Except he never mentioned not having it until *after* we got to this point. 08.22.32 Join Rob2223 [0] (n=Miranda@p4FDCD212.dip.t-dialin.net) 08.23.10 Quit safetydan ("Leaving.") 08.23.16 # There was no way I could possibly know he was referring to the bootloader merged with the OF as "a dual boot bootloader" rather than referring to merely "a bootloader capable of dual booting" 08.23.39 # Llorean: chill out - I never said you did!!! 08.23.49 # I'm calm. 08.24.00 # Note the lack of exclamation points. 08.24.42 # But it's probably something we should get terms for since "bootloader" shouldn't refer to both what you compile, and the post-merge nk.bin. 08.25.53 # johnson4: May I ask why you're dead-set on continuing with this despite being unable to compile, after being told it's not ready for non-developers? 08.29.45 # I managed to see gigabeatS in Window and moved .rockbox over there, Message now reads"init complete found rockbox binary. Moving.... returned -5 File not found" 08.30.22 # * GodEater gives up 08.40.12 Quit Rob2222 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 08.42.18 Quit amiconn (" reboot") 08.44.09 Quit johnson4 ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 08.44.39 Join vitja [0] (n=vitja@79.120.98.174) 08.47.14 Quit drf|away (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 08.53.17 Join drf|away [0] (i=your_mom@d14-69-192-60.try.wideopenwest.com) 08.53.56 Join ender` [0] (i=krneki@foo.eternallybored.org) 08.56.48 Join amiconn [50] (n=jens@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 08.58.58 Join foolsh [0] (n=foolsh@c-98-212-242-222.hsd1.il.comcast.net) 08.59.03 Nick JdGordon is now known as JdGordon|afk (n=jonno@rockbox/developer/JdGordon) 09.11.55 Join petur [50] (n=petur@rockbox/developer/petur) 09.12.06 Join herrwaldo [0] (n=waldo@ip-81-11-194-227.dsl.scarlet.be) 09.13.24 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 09.30.10 Join Nico_P [0] (i=53915df2@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-5311938386f75dcf) 09.30.22 Join walt [0] (n=dave@dslb-088-069-014-023.pools.arcor-ip.net) 09.33.13 Quit n1s () 09.38.16 Join linuxstb [0] (n=linuxstb@rockbox/developer/linuxstb) 09.42.20 Join AndyIL [0] (n=pasha_in@212.14.205.32) 09.43.53 Join snoh [0] (n=dave@cpc1-sout6-0-0-cust616.sotn.cable.ntl.com) 09.53.31 Quit AndyI (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 10.03.34 Quit GodEater (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 10.03.34 Quit Nico_P (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 10.03.34 Quit perrikwp (Remote closed the connection) 10.05.10 Part decayedcell 10.05.52 Join GodEater [0] (i=c2cbc962@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-78f0563310c2a2fc) 10.07.46 Quit snoh ("GNU/Linux the free alternative to Windows") 10.27.37 Quit amiconn (Nick collision from services.) 10.27.40 Join amiconn [50] (n=jens@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 10.29.51 # vitja: I heard you have some questions about USB? 10.32.03 Quit herrwaldo (Remote closed the connection) 10.32.42 Join herrwaldo [0] (n=waldo@ip-81-11-194-227.dsl.scarlet.be) 10.37.54 # * linuxstb points preglow to http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=18088.0 10.38.15 # gevaerts, yes I had 10.38.19 # I'm writting driver for tcc7xx 10.38.21 # now I have questions mostly on hardware 10.38.25 # then rockbox usbstack 10.38.33 # somewhy after reading few control packets, next one is read as wirst word copied count times 10.40.50 # I can't help much with hardware issues I'm afraid. While I do have a tcc7xx device (Logik DAX), I haven't looked very hard at it yet 10.42.05 Quit walt (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 10.43.43 # ok 10.44.04 Join pixelma [50] (i=pixelma@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 10.45.28 # If you put your code somewhere I can have a look later, but not right now as I'm a bit ill and not up to hard thinking 10.45.42 Join decayedcell [0] (n=decayed_@60-241-92-53.static.tpgi.com.au) 10.47.42 # I can send it by the mail, but it's very dirty for now 10.50.01 # As I won't look at it immediately anyway, maybe wait a bit. I'll let you know when I feel better, and maybe the code will be better by then as well 10.51.01 # ok 10.53.04 Part decayedcell 10.54.06 Quit nuonguy ("This computer has gone to sleep") 11.09.20 Join Seed [0] (n=ben@bzq-84-108-232-45.cablep.bezeqint.net) 11.13.25 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 11.16.13 Join Genre9mp3 [0] (n=yngwiejo@rockbox/contributor/Genre9mp3) 11.27.28 Join haganah [0] (n=dave@dslb-088-069-030-127.pools.arcor-ip.net) 11.29.41 Quit vitja (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 11.35.24 Join AndyI [0] (n=pasha_in@212.14.205.32) 11.41.47 Quit herrwaldo ("Konversation terminated!") 11.45.26 Join herrwaldo [0] (n=waldo@ip-81-11-197-235.dsl.scarlet.be) 11.46.23 Quit AndyIL (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 11.55.33 Quit herrwaldo (Remote closed the connection) 11.56.46 Join herrwaldo [0] (n=waldo@ip-81-11-197-235.dsl.scarlet.be) 12.12.21 Join [CBR]Unspoken|w [0] (n=cbr@212.98.160.130) 12.16.17 Quit Genre9mp3 (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 12.21.48 Join culture [0] (n=none@cpc1-bele3-0-0-cust658.belf.cable.ntl.com) 12.43.31 Join fixUp [0] (n=fixUp@host86-148-136-221.range86-148.btcentralplus.com) 12.44.19 # does anyone know if you have to put the iRiver H10 into UMS mode after a rockbox install to access it over usb ? 12.49.22 Quit troy_ () 12.49.32 Join mazling [0] (i=largeear@host86-149-16-31.range86-149.btcentralplus.com) 12.53.18 Quit parafin (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 12.56.22 Quit Bensawsome ("The awsome is gone :(") 12.59.24 Quit foolsh ("Ex-Chat") 13.05.19 Join Nico_P [0] (i=53915df2@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-2fa4505eb97976c8) 13.10.33 # fixUp: Yes, I think you do - Rockbox doesn't have its own UMS mode. But I think if you hold a button (maybe ON) whilst inserting the USB cable in Rockbox, it should reboot into the original firmware's UMS mode. 13.13.28 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 13.17.41 # You need to hold Select 13.18.02 # This is because then you can continue holding it to force the OF into UMS mode 13.18.21 Join Bensawsome [0] (n=Bensawso@unaffiliated/bensawsome) 13.18.33 # (H10 big and H10 pure only have MTP OF, which needs holding Select on boot to enter UMS mode) 13.18.51 Join einhirn_ [0] (i=Miranda@bsod.rz.tu-clausthal.de) 13.37.01 Join fdinel [0] (n=Miranda@modemcable204.232-203-24.mc.videotron.ca) 13.44.40 Join mcuelenaere [0] (n=mcuelena@rockbox/developer/mcuelenaere) 13.44.44 # we need this, word for word, in our forums too, I think it's brilliant : http://forum.handbrake.fr/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=2741 13.46.27 # ahaha 13.46.29 # lol 13.48.10 Join webguest22 [0] (n=7db2e193@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-8d595adc51c56467) 13.49.02 # Anyone know about the status of the boot loader for iAudio X5 that supports dual boot? 13.50.33 # it's still unofficial 13.52.58 # I know that it's yet to be implemented onto the official build, but should i expect it soon or is it still far away? 13.53.43 Join parafin [0] (i=parafin@paraf.in) 13.54.31 # well it's been unofficial for ages, and I don't know that anyone's worked on it recently, so I think the chances of it becoming official any time soon are slim to none 13.56.24 # It's just that I saw this post on iaudiophile http://www.iaudiophile.net/forums/showthread.php?t=8904&page=15 13.58.15 # as far as I'm aware, Llorean didn't manage to make any magic happen at DevCon 13.59.56 Join faemir [0] (n=faemir@88-106-180-165.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) 14.00.14 # linuxstb: thanks, It's working fine now 14.00.34 # Ahh.. what a shame, so I guess the only possible way to use dual boot would be to resort to the v2 boot loader? 14.00.59 Part haganah ("Konversation terminated!") 14.10.31 # webguest22: I'd come back when Llorean is around (about 5 or six hours from now), and ask him - he'll have a better idea than me 14.11.17 # webguest22: I don't think it's a problem - just install the unofficial dual-boot bootloader, then use official Rockbox builds as normal. 14.12.16 Join CaptainKewl [0] (n=jason@207-237-173-165.c3-0.nyr-ubr4.nyr.ny.cable.rcn.com) 14.13.34 Quit rvvs89 ("Lost terminal") 14.15.16 Join rvvs89 [0] (n=rvvs89@pdpc/supporter/active/rvvs89) 14.19.06 Quit lordpil (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 14.22.07 Quit Nico_P ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") 14.24.28 Quit fixUp (Client Quit) 14.29.00 Quit herrwaldo (Remote closed the connection) 14.31.10 Join Nico_P [0] (i=53915df2@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-863475291cd5b661) 14.32.15 Join herrwaldo [0] (n=waldo@ip-81-11-216-91.dsl.scarlet.be) 14.34.00 Quit daurn (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 14.35.01 # GodEater,linuxstb: thanks for the help 14.37.23 Join tvelocity [0] (n=tony@athedsl-4395608.home.otenet.gr) 14.39.45 Join zer0access [0] (n=krasikov@213.129.97.178) 14.56.18 Join LambdaCalculus37 [0] (i=44a0430f@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-ed90358b360d7d1e) 14.59.37 Join EleminoP [0] (n=EleminoP@adsl-76-214-145-25.dsl.ipltin.sbcglobal.net) 14.59.42 Part EleminoP 15.00.09 Join Xqtftqx [0] (n=tyler@cpe-76-181-19-107.columbus.res.rr.com) 15.03.32 Part Xqtftqx 15.07.22 Join Horscht [0] (n=Horscht@xbmc/user/horscht) 15.13.32 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 15.19.56 Join XavierGr [0] (n=xavier@rockbox/staff/XavierGr) 15.27.53 Quit rasher (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 15.28.45 Quit basti (Remote closed the connection) 15.46.47 # domonoky (logs): I suppose FS#9226 can be closed now that it's applied to the student's SVN? 15.47.40 Join Thundercloud [0] (n=thunderc@host81-132-215-132.range81-132.btcentralplus.com) 16.03.12 Join Arathis [0] (n=doerk@p508A4C3B.dip.t-dialin.net) 16.04.11 Join m0f0x [0] (n=m0f0x@189-47-67-123.dsl.telesp.net.br) 16.06.50 Quit mazling ("Inde da'covale misain ye; Caballien misain ye!") 16.07.31 Part LinusN 16.11.38 Quit CaptainKewl (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 16.15.26 # krz (if you read logs): I've posted a fix for current SVN to fix a compile error (FS#9254) 16.16.56 Quit Bensawsome (Nick collision from services.) 16.17.24 Join Bensawesome [0] (i=Bensawso@unaffiliated/bensawsome) 16.19.53 Quit GodEater ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") 16.20.01 Join mf0102 [0] (n=michi@85.127.20.176) 16.20.02 Join GodEater [0] (i=c2cbc962@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-76ecbfe1029cc1a1) 16.32.28 Join krz [0] (n=chatzill@mail.jvl.by) 16.32.34 # hi all 16.37.27 Join webguest26 [0] (n=600345ea@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-1c9ebaa0bf471523) 16.42.06 # krz: hi, did you see my message? 16.43.21 Quit BlakeJohnson861 ("Leaving.") 16.43.24 # mcuelenaere: jup, i saw. so, it was resolved in the revision by adding . seems it doesn't help for all 16.44.14 # weird 16.44.26 # perhaps it's my set-up 16.55.43 Join toffe82 [0] (n=chatzill@201.100.19.209) 16.56.09 Join crope` [0] (n=crope@dyn3-82-128-188-215.psoas.suomi.net) 17.00.27 Quit webguest26 ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)") 17.00.41 Quit Thundercloud (Remote closed the connection) 17.02.41 Quit petur ("connection reset by beer") 17.04.06 Join Kols [0] (n=Kolya@xdsl-84-44-194-175.netcologne.de) 17.05.09 Join jvm [0] (n=jvm@e179054019.adsl.alicedsl.de) 17.07.05 # hi. i tried add my own plugin to rockbox. i did a 'cp helloworld.c myapplication.c && echo myapplication.c > SOURCES' in apps/plugins directory, and executed 'make && make zip' in my build directory, but the new application didn't show up in the rockbox applications menu. do i have to do something else? 17.07.37 Join midgey [0] (n=tjross@c-71-205-31-207.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) 17.08.16 Quit webguest22 ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 17.09.35 Quit Nico_P ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") 17.10.29 Quit krz (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 17.13.33 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 17.18.17 Join webguest66 [0] (n=535b52f2@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-59ab09332a02057a) 17.18.28 # jvm: You need to add it to CATEGORIES (iirc) 17.19.42 # jvm: echo myapplication,apps >> apps/plugins/CATEGORIES 17.20.56 # webguest66, thanks. 17.20.59 # webguest66, it works :) 17.23.20 # \o/ 17.23.26 Quit webguest66 ("CGI:IRC") 17.24.49 Join webguest25 [0] (n=51427fcd@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-7c555a48ef23346a) 17.25.51 # jvm: what are you working on? 17.26.54 # With a nick like that... 17.27.31 # java :) 17.29.40 # webguest25, i want a simple application on my ipod which lets me manage my todo list. 17.30.08 # no java... 17.30.13 # like a calendar? 17.31.17 # thing that we already have on the tracker (don't know why it is still on the tracker and not in svn) 17.31.39 # mine should be a little bit more integrated with the calendar application i use on my desktop. 17.31.56 # i developed it for my own needs, it is cryptic but efficient ;) 17.32.10 # heh :) 17.32.24 # checked the one in the tracker? 17.32.28 # but not in a state that makes it likely to be useful for anyone. 17.32.31 # no, i didn't. 17.32.35 # where can i find it? 17.32.44 # let's see... 17.32.50 # webguest25: (1) There is a calendar in svn, but it's only for archos recorders. (2) The one in the tracker isn't committed because it doesn't accomodate small screens 17.33.05 # Ideally, someone should go ahead and combine them 17.34.03 # yeah, it shouldn' be hard to adapt for all targets 17.34.38 # linuxstb, you told me there was a "writing your own plugin" introduction in the wiki. 17.34.53 # linuxstb, i searched for it yesterday, but couldn't find one. 17.36.05 # jvm: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/HowtoWritePlugins 17.36.12 # jvm:http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/4760 17.37.45 # amiconn: that could be nice to have it merged before the coming release, but no one worked on it since a while 17.41.12 Quit webguest25 ("Back home") 17.41.36 # thank you both again. 17.50.23 Join perrikwp [0] (i=4ce20572@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-53fe9d6b4c98e7b6) 18.00.05 # i use malloc in my application; it works within the simulator, but when compling for the ipod, i get undefined reference to `malloc`; should i include some file, other than stdio? 18.02.37 Join midkay [0] (n=midkay@rockbox/developer/midkay) 18.09.57 Join Nibbler [0] (n=Nibbler@91-67-150-33-dynip.superkabel.de) 18.11.04 Join nuonguy [0] (n=john@c-71-198-1-139.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) 18.16.53 # Don't we do this already? http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=18090.0 18.18.13 Quit midkay_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 18.20.55 Part Zarathu 18.23.05 Join Lambdumb [0] (n=Lambda@64.6.88.58) 18.23.31 Quit Lambduh (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 18.26.06 Quit Arathis ("Bye, bye") 18.26.16 Join Bosley [0] (n=4ce5a14f@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-22062873a8379d65) 18.26.34 # hello anyone really good at making themes 18.27.02 # casue i dont understand how 18.27.08 Join SoapWork [0] (n=42c07542@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-b0b9775ab29e403f) 18.27.25 # Have you read http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/CustomWPS and http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/SimpleGuideToWPSMaking? 18.27.57 # i dont understand the tags 18.28.16 # before i got Rockbox i made themes with ipod wizard 18.28.41 # Forget everything about ipod wizard... 18.29.33 # ok 18.29.34 Join jgsprenger [0] (n=63e8f93f@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-db4d2c61bf59c294) 18.29.41 # i sortta understand how the tags work 18.29.43 Join Arathis [0] (n=doerk@p508A4C3B.dip.t-dialin.net) 18.29.47 # is there a list of possible tags somewhere 18.29.57 # The first link LambdaCalculus37 gave you 18.30.16 # i guess the main thing i need to know is how to place images i make 18.30.50 Quit jgsprenger (Client Quit) 18.31.03 Join Nico_P [50] (n=nicolas@rockbox/developer/NicoP) 18.33.43 Join miepchen^schlaf [0] (n=miepchen@p54BF6580.dip.t-dialin.net) 18.34.16 # actually that simple guide tells me everything i need to know 18.34.20 # now to get good at it 18.35.06 Quit Bosley ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 18.35.12 Quit jvm ("Leaving") 18.35.27 Join jvm [0] (n=jvm@e179054019.adsl.alicedsl.de) 18.37.31 Join mib_32k55ma0 [0] (i=cdcdc8ee@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-03a0a1cafba6cf33) 18.37.40 Quit HellDragon (Connection timed out) 18.38.18 # soap: Dude in the forums (thacrip) has an e200 according to his signature. 18.38.28 Nick mib_32k55ma0 is now known as MarcGuay (i=cdcdc8ee@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-03a0a1cafba6cf33) 18.38.51 # Though I guess he can assume that if it's only for the 5.5g, it will have a detrimental effect on his battery life. 18.39.09 # *5G 18.41.19 Join bertrik [0] (n=bertrik@ip117-49-211-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl) 18.42.36 Quit Nibbler (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 18.44.12 Quit MarcGuay ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") 18.46.09 # Why I ASSumed he had a 5G I'll never know. 18.48.29 Join linuxstb_ [0] (n=linuxstb@rockbox/developer/linuxstb) 18.48.51 # and I also thought I heard someone say that on swcodec targets using both bass and treble - would need as much power as using one eq band. But I'm not sure and don't know whether it applies to all swcodec targets (in the same amount) 18.50.40 Join stripwax [0] (n=Miranda@87-194-34-169.bethere.co.uk) 18.53.23 Quit linuxstb (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 18.53.57 Join maffe [0] (n=Miranda@p5B0418DE.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 19.01.54 # pixelma: This is correct for all swcodec targets which have to do treble/bass in software (those with hw treble/bass don't need extra cpu power for it, obviously) 19.03.08 Join rasher [0] (n=rasher@0x5550f5a3.adsl.cybercity.dk) 19.03.16 Join DivClass [0] (n=nobody@unaffiliated/snarfer) 19.03.50 Quit zer0access () 19.04.18 # aha, I see 19.05.25 Join dabujo [0] (i=xx@p4FDB194C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 19.09.15 # Of all swcodec targets, the following ones have hardware tone control (or at least sw tone control isn't enabled): Gigabeat F/X, S; Iriver H1x0, H300; iPod G4, Color, Nano, Video; Logikdax; m:robe 100, 500 19.09.47 # The others have sw tone control. Hwcodec targets all have hw tone control for obvious reasons 19.10.04 # so the safe rule of thumb is treble+bass = 1 eq band? And are the shelf filters any more efficient than the peaking filters? (I think I have the terms right) 19.10.32 # Afaik they aren't 19.10.59 # preglow should know the details 19.12.59 # amiconn, can you have a look at my battery bench plugin this weekend? 19.13.05 # the patch is at http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/9155 19.13.34 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 19.16.41 Quit perrikwp ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") 19.17.26 Nick linuxstb_ is now known as linuxstb (n=linuxstb@rockbox/developer/linuxstb) 19.22.05 Join tvelocity_ [0] (n=tony@athedsl-143555.home.otenet.gr) 19.25.53 Quit einhirn_ (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 19.34.16 Join ompaul [0] (n=ompaul@gnewsense/friend/ompaul) 19.36.38 Join neddy [0] (n=john@nat/sun/x-08db244393b73ca0) 19.37.03 Quit neddy (Client Quit) 19.37.46 Quit tvelocity (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 19.41.14 Nick fxb__ is now known as fxb (n=felixbru@h1252615.stratoserver.net) 19.44.00 Quit stripwax ("Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org") 19.47.57 Quit maffe ("IRC ist obsolet!") 19.48.43 Join maffe [0] (n=Miranda@p5B0418DE.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 20.03.54 Join petur [50] (n=petur@rockbox/developer/petur) 20.04.46 Quit DivClass (Remote closed the connection) 20.09.54 Join error1600 [0] (n=none@pool-71-245-180-251.pitbpa.fios.verizon.net) 20.10.04 Join Schmogel [0] (n=Miranda@p3EE219EB.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 20.12.02 Quit maffe ("IRC ist obsolet!") 20.12.51 Nick error1600 is now known as rawr (n=none@pool-71-245-180-251.pitbpa.fios.verizon.net) 20.12.56 Quit rawr (" Info~[v9.5]~ Released~[October 27, 2003]~") 20.17.24 Join Hillshum [0] (n=chatzill@75-165-246-8.slkc.qwest.net) 20.21.49 Join Bosley [0] (n=4ce5a14f@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-216b904ed59837cd) 20.22.12 Join HellDragon [0] (n=jd@24.203.136.234) 20.22.47 # hey people 20.22.54 # ive got three questions 20.22.59 # how do you make playlists 20.23.08 # how do you get the album art to show up 20.23.12 # and 20.23.33 # i actually forgot the last question 20.23.41 # Those sound like things that are in the manual 20.23.48 # And in the wiki. 20.24.24 # ehehe 20.24.34 # and is there a way to bypass rockbox and run the regualr firmware 20.24.52 # Also in the manual. 20.24.56 # Bosley: this is in the manual also; and depends upon your mp3 player model 20.25.07 # sweet thanks for the help 20.25.39 # Bosley: :) I would say you by experience that if you ask here for things in the manual you'll receive always the same answer. Sad but true. 20.26.08 # * LambdaCalculus37 thinks that if no one reads the manual, we'll never be able to get that movie adaptation deal on it ;) 20.26.15 Quit jvm ("Leaving") 20.26.43 # * gevaerts hopes for lots of special effects 20.27.12 # WPS screens come in to life in *FULL 3D!!!* 20.28.33 # pacbox extra datafiles condense from a magic cloud :) 20.34.15 # with full 5.1 surround sound 20.34.20 # i still dont understand how to make playlists 20.34.21 # Dolby 20.34.22 # from what i can tell you can either add an entire directory or all the songs on your mp3 player 20.34.39 # Bosley: What player? 20.34.53 # ipod 5.5 gen 30 gig 20.35.57 # long-press of the select button on a file or directory. 20.36.14 # the PDF version of the manual is very searchable, and there are lots of hits for "playlist" 20.36.58 Quit scorche|sh (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 20.37.11 Join scorche|sh [0] (n=scorche@squisch.net) 20.39.01 # Hillshum: thanks 20.39.38 Quit Bosley ("CGI:IRC") 20.40.14 Join Bosley [0] (n=4ce5a14f@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-b17be1306e4e0f93) 20.40.14 Quit Bosley (Client Quit) 20.40.21 Join n9xvt [0] (n=IceChat7@rrcs-24-123-231-224.central.biz.rr.com) 20.44.17 Join num1 [0] (n=brian@c-68-63-193-45.hsd1.az.comcast.net) 20.44.49 Join kugel [0] (n=chatzill@unaffiliated/kugel) 20.47.59 # The sansa e200 series uses NAND flash chips, 2/4/8Gb in size, is 8Gb the biggest chip available or does sandisk/samsung offer a chip of the same physical size/pin layout that is bigger? 20.49.25 # * LambdaCalculus37 shrugs 20.49.30 # Doesn't the Cowon D2 use bigger chips ? I seem to recall 16Gb 20.50.26 # Or even bigger. The 16 gigabyte version has 4 chips according to http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/CowonD2Info 20.50.55 # What about the Sansa View? There's a 32GB variation of that, but what are the chips used? 20.52.55 Join stripwax [0] (n=Miranda@87-194-34-169.bethere.co.uk) 20.53.25 # hm... it looks like all players use some combination of chips, there's no straight forward 16Gb chip 20.53.38 # * gevaerts fixes the CowonD2Info page. It was inaccurate by a factor of 8 for some numbers 20.53.50 # num1: Gb or GB? 20.55.10 # The e200v2 has two spots for flash on the PCB, my e260 has 1 20.55.56 # Doesn't the e200 have a daughtercard for flash? 20.56.03 # v1 20.56.58 # I _think_ that the larger e200s (like the 8GB) have to chips 20.57.02 # s/to/two/ 21.00.16 # Indeed. See http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/SandiskE200HardwareComponents#Sandisk_Flash 21.01.36 # IIRC all e200s have two chips 21.03.37 Quit kugel (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 21.04.38 # guess I was wrong 21.05.13 Quit EspeonEefi ("さよなら") 21.05.43 # gevaerts: Gigabyte, however it's capitalized 21.06.10 # num1: ok. In that case ignore everything I said about it :) 21.06.53 # gevaerts: Thank you for the information 21.09.23 # my v2 has 1 21.09.30 # e260 21.13.38 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 21.20.00 Join itcheg [0] (n=IceChat7@h-67-100-146-176.nycmny83.covad.net) 21.20.20 Join thegeek_ [0] (n=nnscript@s080a.studby.ntnu.no) 21.23.33 Part n9xvt 21.24.03 Quit itcheg ("Do fish get thirsty?") 21.25.44 Join itcheg [0] (n=IceChat7@h-67-100-146-176.nycmny83.covad.net) 21.29.30 Join bluebrother [0] (n=dom@rockbox/staff/bluebrother) 21.29.52 Quit Bensawesome (Connection timed out) 21.30.35 Quit stripwax ("Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org") 21.34.48 Quit thegeek (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 21.35.18 Join oofus [0] (n=chris@oofus.demon.co.uk) 21.35.41 # hmm 21.36.21 # While we can do 'make zip', 7zip, bzip2 etc, we can do 'make fullzip' only, but not e.g. full7zip ... 21.37.41 Join EspeonEefi [0] (i=espeonee@30-6-67.wireless.csail.mit.edu) 21.39.27 Join Injabie3 [0] (n=4644967b@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-9954bc0a206222b9) 21.39.36 # hello? 21.40.00 # * bluebrother waits untill silence comes back 21.40.04 # hello? 21.40.11 # silence: ping 21.40.23 # btw, who is hello? 21.41.10 Quit Injabie3 (Client Quit) 21.41.17 # :) 21.41.25 # o well 21.41.41 # always the same with those guys 21.42.17 # bluebrother: (I now saw you already posted there) but I wondered whether http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=18079.0 had something to do with your unicode commit. I just started wondering after reading today's new post in that thread. 21.42.48 # I wondered that too, but I somehow can't explain it. 21.43.21 # guess it would need some testing 21.46.37 # yep. The strange thing is that my commit only affects the file when opening it, so a possible issue should be present with the first file in the playlist, not all successive. 21.48.20 Join Pizza [0] (n=chatzill@adsl-76-215-33-88.dsl.ipltin.sbcglobal.net) 21.49.02 Join robin0800 [0] (n=robin080@cpc2-brig8-0-0-cust394.brig.cable.ntl.com) 21.49.28 Part Pizza 21.50.25 Join snoh [0] (n=dave@cpc1-sout6-0-0-cust616.sotn.cable.ntl.com) 21.55.12 Join coatman [0] (i=coatman@ppp-70-246-141-46.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net) 21.57.50 Nick oofus is now known as oofus[away] (n=chris@oofus.demon.co.uk) 21.59.23 Quit LambdaCalculus37 ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") 22.00.39 Join coatman_ [0] (i=coatman@ppp-70-246-141-46.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net) 22.11.03 Quit midgey () 22.12.23 Join stripwax [0] (n=Miranda@87-194-34-169.bethere.co.uk) 22.13.40 Quit stripwax (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 22.13.41 Join stripwax_ [0] (n=Miranda@87-194-34-169.bethere.co.uk) 22.16.11 Quit coatman_ ("See You All Later") 22.18.10 Quit coatman (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 22.21.46 Join rikai_ [0] (n=blah@unaffiliated/rikai) 22.24.29 Quit Arathis ("Bye, bye") 22.24.59 Quit tvelocity_ (Remote closed the connection) 22.30.30 Join BlakeJohnson86 [0] (n=bjohnson@70-14-53-19.area3.spcsdns.net) 22.33.42 Join tvelocity [0] (n=tony@athedsl-143555.home.otenet.gr) 22.34.29 Join thegeek [0] (n=nnscript@s080a.studby.ntnu.no) 22.36.55 Quit rikai (Connection timed out) 22.40.29 Join B4gder [241] (n=daniel@rockbox/developer/bagder) 22.44.40 Nick oofus[away] is now known as oofus (n=chris@oofus.demon.co.uk) 22.48.19 Quit thegeek_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 22.50.12 # * petur has another fight with the menu macros 22.56.54 Quit oofus (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 22.57.53 Quit Seed ("cu, Andre") 23.00.54 Join Zagor [242] (n=bjst@rockbox/developer/Zagor) 23.07.57 # * petur kicks the buildserver 23.08.39 Quit z35 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 23.09.03 Part pbryan ("Byeee.") 23.09.36 Join perrikwp [0] (i=4ce20572@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-2616505edb7acefd) 23.11.11 # be careful, it might kick back ;) 23.11.47 Join Seed [0] (n=ben@bzq-84-108-232-45.cablep.bezeqint.net) 23.12.55 # * amiconn joins petur in the kicking 23.13.21 # it's only the buildserver, not forehead ;-) 23.13.37 # * B4gder smacks someone else's forehead 23.13.37 # poor forehead, he gets slapped a lot 23.13.41 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 23.13.45 # * linuxstb notes the aggression and steps backwards 23.13.57 # * petur spots a typo and sighs 23.14.08 # * gevaerts hands forehead a beer 23.14.25 # * pixelma hands petur a 'w' 23.14.33 # * petur accepts 23.14.34 # * bluebrother wonders why the buildserver needs to get kicked again. Is it on strike for more beer? 23.14.36 # what about the build server... if it might kick back, i'm sure it'd like to kick back with a beer 23.15.09 # bluebrother: weird that 2 of us decided the build server should get beer at the same time :p 23.15.17 # hehe ;-) 23.15.39 # great minds think alike, especially about beer 23.15.51 # s/think/drink 23.16.14 # which reminds me to check when i need to bottle 23.16.33 # * gevaerts considers committing something with "#warning thanks for the beer" somewhere 23.17.09 # the beer plugin? 23.17.45 # hmmm a catalog of all different beers with their taste, composition,... 23.17.47 # #warning HELP I AM TRAPPED IN A ROCKBOX FACTORY 23.18.08 # s/FACTORY/BREWERY/, or it's OT :) 23.18.18 # heh 23.20.35 # * petur gives the buildserver an impatient look 23.21.18 # /me snaps with his fingers 23.21.29 # * petur hands B4gder a better stick 23.21.51 # no more beer for the buildserver! 23.22.11 # you sure it'll go on working if you do that? 23.22.23 Quit SoapWork ("CGI:IRC") 23.24.28 # alright then... no more beer for B4gder 23.24.44 # * petur wonders if that won't make things worse 23.24.50 # more? I didn't get any in the first place! 23.24.52 # you should offer the beer as a bounty 23.25.00 # * B4gder just had whiskey tonight 23.25.33 # so, what's up with the buildserver? 23.26.11 # look again! 23.26.18 # \o/ 23.26.27 Join Xqtftqx [0] (n=tyler@cpe-76-181-19-107.columbus.res.rr.com) 23.26.32 # my fingersnapping was a bit slow 23.26.39 # thanks 23.26.49 # now I can go in peace 23.26.53 Quit petur ("Zzzzz") 23.32.07 Part Kols 23.36.09 Join midgey [0] (n=tjross@c-71-205-31-207.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) 23.38.35 Quit bertrik ("Leaving") 23.41.08 Join Thundercloud [0] (n=thunderc@84-51-130-71.judith186.adsl.metronet.co.uk) 23.44.53 Quit ompaul (Client Quit) 23.50.25 Join thegeek_ [0] (n=nnscript@s080a.studby.ntnu.no) 23.50.37 Quit thegeek (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 23.51.21 Quit snoh (Remote closed the connection)