--- Log for 11.08.108 Server: calvino.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 9 days and 18 hours ago 00.02.48 Join svens [0] (n=svens@84-75-240-133.dclient.hispeed.ch) 00.04.55 # hello all. everytime i rebuild my rockbox and copy it to my player the config.cfg gets overwritten. is there a way to set a 'default' config.cfg which gets included when doing 'make zip' ? 00.05.43 # config.cfg does not get overwritten by installing a new build 00.06.11 Join CyBergRind|w [0] (n=cbr@212.98.160.130) 00.07.12 Quit midgey () 00.07.22 # hmm. my language settings are being resetted everytime i copy my new build to the ipod. maybe it's an ark issue ? 00.07.44 Quit [CBR]Unspoken|w (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 00.08.20 Join midgey [0] (n=tjross@66-227-210-181.dhcp.trcy.mi.charter.com) 00.10.08 # do you have the hold switch enabled when connecting to USB? 00.14.59 # no. i've now made some changes to tools/buildzip.pl which should now include my config.cfg. thanks 00.15.46 # Isn't there something like "fixed.cfg" anyway? 00.15.56 # in a usual zip, config.cfg is not included and so can't overwrite your old one 00.15.58 Join jhulst_ [0] (n=jhulst@unaffiliated/jhulst) 00.17.14 # svens: there are two possibilities: (1) you enable the hold switch when booting. This will reset the settings. (2) you have problems with your filesystem ... 00.17.40 Quit snoh ("GNU/Linux the free alternative to Windows") 00.19.32 Quit mf0102 (Remote closed the connection) 00.22.04 Quit matsl ("Leaving") 00.23.24 Quit miepchen^schlaf () 00.24.31 Quit bluebrother ("leaving") 00.25.22 Quit kushal_12_27_200 ("Leaving") 00.25.37 Join miepchen^schlaf [0] (n=miepchen@p54BF43F3.dip.t-dialin.net) 00.26.17 Quit svens (Remote closed the connection) 00.31.10 Quit ender` (" Variables won't. Constants aren't.") 00.32.44 Quit n1s () 00.35.00 Quit midgey () 00.35.15 Quit herrwaldo ("Konversation terminated!") 00.42.42 Quit coatman ("See You All Later") 00.43.55 Join saratoga [0] (n=9803c264@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-a1152b2c18f1d059) 00.44.33 # can things in the codeclib allocate IRAM, or does that have to be done in the codec itself and passed in? 00.52.58 Join PAssanger [0] (n=neowolf@62.13.173.87) 00.53.07 # hi 00.53.33 # someone can say me 00.53.49 # if rockbock will be prot in samsung yp-u3j 00.53.50 # ? 00.53.57 Quit jhulst_ (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 00.56.45 # ? 00.57.18 # PAssanger: I dont think anyone has mentioned working on it 00.58.25 Quit bertrik_ ("Leaving") 00.58.32 Join reacocard [0] (n=reacocar@rccy-06-1010.dsl.iowatelecom.net) 00.58.35 Quit Psycownage () 00.58.43 # then, i never see rockbox ion my mp3 player? 00.58.48 # :( 00.59.01 # saratoga: The codeclib is statically linked with each codec, so I would expect it to be able to use IRAM. 00.59.14 # PAssanger: well you're welcome to work on it, but otherwise I wouldn't expect much movement 00.59.32 # PAssanger: Someone may come along and do it, but those people are rare. If you want Rockbox, your best bet is to buy a supported player. 00.59.47 # linuxstb: so if I allocate a lookup table in IRAM in the codeclib it doesn't use space for codecs that don't access the lookup table? 01.00.25 # saratoga: Yes - if it's in its own .c file, then the linker can strip it out for codecs that don't use it. 01.00.52 # Anyone tried building the cross compilers with mingw? 01.01.20 # linuxstb: good to know 01.01.49 Quit PAssanger () 01.02.50 # saratoga: The only complication will be if you want it in IRAM for some codecs, and not others. Maybe you'll need to define it twice, with different names (in different .c files, or with some Makefile/pre-processor magic to compile it twice from same source) 01.02.52 Join jhulst_ [0] (n=jhulst@unaffiliated/jhulst) 01.03.56 # linuxstb: I'm just thinking of the IMDCT trig tables, and those should always be in IRAM on all targets, so that shouldn't be an issue 01.14.42 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 01.15.35 Join DerDome [0] (n=DerDome@dslb-082-083-205-188.pools.arcor-ip.net) 01.16.23 Nick Guest51933 is now known as fyrestorm (n=fyre@cpe-68-173-172-243.nyc.res.rr.com) 01.16.25 Quit fyrestorm ("Reconnecting...") 01.16.36 Join Guest51933 [0] (n=fyre@cpe-68-173-172-243.nyc.res.rr.com) 01.17.23 Quit jhulst_ (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 01.21.57 Quit Guest51933 ("you have taken the first step to making new errors") 01.23.04 Join fyrestorm [0] (n=fyre@cpe-68-173-172-243.nyc.res.rr.com) 01.29.27 Join jhulst_ [0] (n=jhulst@unaffiliated/jhulst) 01.30.04 Join Yondering [0] (n=Timo@pppoe-133-061.wcta.net) 01.35.38 Quit stripwax (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 01.35.45 # hmm I think I bricked my sansa =p 01.36.41 # Yondering, what is it doing 01.37.26 Join testfire [0] (n=josiah@nj-71-53-8-35.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) 01.38.15 # advcomp2019, I had rockbox working on it, but it wouldn't boot back into the sansa OS to connect via usb the way it's supposed to.. tried updating it per instructions (recovery mode, etc..) now it just hangs on the 'sandisk' splash screen when I try to start it. I've been trying the instructions on the unbricking page repeatedly for a while now.. 01.38.25 # Hey guys, just installed rockbox and none of the themes are showing there playback themes... 01.39.21 Quit nplus (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 01.39.28 # advcomp2019, I'm not positive I have the correct bin files to reinstall sansa and try again. =/ 01.40.36 # testfire, there is broken themes 01.40.45 # I can connect in recovery mode still, but copying the .mi4 file over does nothing. 01.40.58 # advcomp2019: How can I fix this? 01.41.57 # testfire, you need to edit the theme or look for a newer theme 01.42.27 # advcomp2019: I installed all of the themes provided in the rockbox utility... 01.43.39 # Yondering, weird that recovery mode did not fix that issue 01.43.53 # advcomp2019, yeah :=/ 01.45.32 # testfire, there is a thread on the forums on how to fix it or you can read the wiki about themes to fix it 01.45.56 # Ok, I'll look for it... 01.47.02 # incidentally, happen to know of a good 4gb or larger (prefer flash-based) mp3 player that'll handle mp3 & ogg? 01.47.21 # sansa e260? 01.48.23 # testfire, I just bricked a 260 01.48.26 # ;) 01.48.41 # That sucks... what version was it? 01.48.51 # I was lucky to get v1 01.49.00 # rhapsody.. =/ it's a v1 though 01.49.01 # Yondering, have you tried recovery mode again with the sansa.fmt file 01.49.08 Join fyre^OS [0] (n=fyre@cpe-68-173-160-5.nyc.res.rr.com) 01.49.11 # yes, advcomp2019 01.49.18 # several times =/ 01.49.38 # Yondering: I just did that with my e260 and it fixed it right up... 01.49.50 # Yondering: are you using linux? 01.49.55 # yes 01.50.09 # What does it do when you try to boot it up? 01.50.17 # hangs on the splash screen 01.50.28 # the sansa scree? 01.50.36 # first one.. sandisk 01.50.45 # oh :( 01.51.12 # oki.. touch/media/16_format/sansa.fmt? 01.51.34 # yup 01.51.57 # and disconnecting.. ok, says formatting.. 01.52.04 # advcomp2019: do you have a link for the theme help? 01.52.16 # Yondering: okay let it sit till it's done 01.52.23 # testfire, will do. 01.52.26 # then take lock off and turn on 01.53.39 # testfire, here is the thread from the forum: http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=17507.0 01.54.05 Join nplus [0] (n=nplus@141.25.Globcom.Net) 01.54.09 # advcomp2019: TY 01.54.54 # upgrade finished.. resetting.. 01.55.18 # nada =/ 01.55.49 # Yondering: that really should have worked :( 01.56.05 # I think there is a tool for windows to restore it 01.56.14 # I have been fiddling with it for a while now.. tried a few diferent mi4 files trying to recover it 01.56.52 # where did you get them from? 01.57.44 # http://forums.sandisk.com/sansa/board/message?board.id=e200&message.id=3975#M3975 01.57.55 # hm, wrong link. 01.58.00 # http://daniel.haxx.se/sansa/mi4.html 01.58.08 # and one from sandisk 02.00.32 # Well It's a good thing e260's are kind cheap now... 02.01.22 # well.. wasn't all that cheap when I bought it, but I don't think I'll be buying another. 02.01.46 # I got mine the day it was listed on newegg.com.. 02.02.23 # advcomp2019: thats Greek to me... 02.03.27 Quit fyrestorm (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 02.03.44 # testfire, that is why i said you might want to find newer themes if you do not know is going on 02.04.11 # I got some off of rockbox themes and they are the same :( 02.04.24 # advcomp2019: where can I find "New" themes? 02.05.39 # there is theme in a wiki page on rockbox 02.06.33 # http://www.rockbox-themes.org/index.php?res=176x220x16 ? 02.06.47 Part iamben 02.07.10 # not that page 02.08.19 # badabing.. no fsckin idea what I did differently, but I got it working now. 02.08.28 # I'm having a terrible time trying to locate the page you mentioned :( 02.08.44 # thats great Yondering! 02.09.12 # now to see if I can throw rockbox on it correctly this time ;) 02.09.47 Join ackers [0] (n=Becks@80-235-149-109.cable.ubr22.newt.blueyonder.co.uk) 02.09.56 # Yondering: Do you use the rockbox utility? 02.10.46 Join Plouj [0] (n=Plouj@red.cs.yorku.ca) 02.10.50 # hi guys, it's me again 02.11.43 # testfire, it wasn't working for me before.. tried a manual installation. I'm going to try the utility this time. 02.11.49 # what player would you recommend that I look for if I want a combination of good rockbox support with a good set of features? 02.11.53 # (player features) 02.13.26 # ah 02.13.36 # * Plouj reads the Subjective Discussion in the BuyersGuide 02.13.53 # I use Ubuntu Linux and it works fine for me... 02.14.28 # Plouj: The Sansa e200 line seems to be a good choice... 02.15.03 # i have question.... if rockbox was added to sansa clip what would be different? 02.16.01 Join sin613 [0] (n=pbarton@h108.147.135.98.ip.windstream.net) 02.16.17 # The clip doesn't have much in the way of hardware does it? 02.17.43 # what do you mean? 02.18.07 Join midgey [0] (n=tjross@66-227-210-181.dhcp.trcy.mi.charter.com) 02.18.24 # the clip is the same hardware as teh V2 sansa, except that I think it doesn't have any DRAM 02.19.11 # is that a good thing or a bad thing? 02.19.12 # I really want to see a port for the view, then I'll be getting a new MP3 player... 02.19.36 # probably means you wouldn't be able to run Rockbox on it without a lot of work 02.19.59 # unless i'm remembering wrong 02.20.08 # does anyone know of any projects of writing Free Software firmware for any in-production players? 02.20.42 Join jfm3 [0] (n=user@165.230.132.126) 02.20.44 # i don't think anyone is working on the View, theres no datasheet for the CPU and it doesn't seem to be all that different then the V2 E series 02.21.07 Part jfm3 ("ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)") 02.21.09 # testfire, here is the themes that is newer(i hope): http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/WpsSansaE200 02.21.14 # Plouj: this is a rockbox channel 02.21.36 # advcomp2019: thanks! 02.21.39 # saratoga: so...? 02.23.53 # read the IRC guidelines at the site 02.23.58 # hehe.. awesome. Now it won't boot rockbox or sansa. This rocks. 02.26.20 # yeah pictures online don't show any DRAM on the Clip 02.31.13 Part sin613 02.32.21 Join coatman [0] (i=coatman@ppp-70-246-133-173.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net) 02.33.58 Quit saratoga ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 02.34.03 Quit coatman (Client Quit) 02.34.07 Join coatman [0] (i=coatman@ppp-70-246-133-173.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net) 02.41.13 Nick JdGordon|zzz is now known as JdGordon (n=jonno@rockbox/developer/JdGordon) 02.45.49 Join Xqtftqx [0] (n=tyler@d233-64-210-227.dnv.wideopenwest.com) 02.45.54 Nick ackers is now known as MyRightTesticle (n=Becks@80-235-149-109.cable.ubr22.newt.blueyonder.co.uk) 02.46.09 Join m0f0x [0] (n=m0f0x@189-47-0-10.dsl.telesp.net.br) 02.46.55 Nick MyRightTesticle is now known as ackers (n=Becks@80-235-149-109.cable.ubr22.newt.blueyonder.co.uk) 02.48.44 Quit DerDome ("Leaving.") 02.55.14 Part Xqtftqx 02.56.34 Quit mcuelenaere () 03.04.25 Part pixelma 03.06.47 Quit jhulst_ (No route to host) 03.09.23 Quit num1 (Excess Flood) 03.09.52 Join num1 [0] (n=brian@unaffiliated/num1) 03.11.20 Nick fxb is now known as fxb__ (n=felixbru@h1252615.stratoserver.net) 03.12.11 Quit anathema (Connection timed out) 03.14.46 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 03.15.19 Part ackers 03.20.16 # are there docs on the rockbox tagcache DB structure anywhere? or is the source code the only reference? 03.30.25 # only the source code 03.30.45 # thought as much >.< 03.31.21 # I'm trying to make a taccache updater in python, so I can update the DB from the host machine instead of having rb do it on boot 03.31.26 # reacocard: but if you figure something out please don't hesitate to write a wiki page so we have at least some docs 03.32.09 # i certainly will, ive already got a fair bit of it figured out, its mainly the structure of the main index that is giving me trouble now 03.32.26 # here's what I have: http://pastebin.ca/1165432 03.32.30 # reacocard: that's a great idea! if you get anything please send me the code I'd use that constantly 03.33.15 # so right now I can read the _[0-8] DBs pretty well, but how the main DB relates to these I dont know 03.33.29 # num1: if it gets anywhere ill send it to the mailing list 03.52.56 Quit goffa_ (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 03.53.18 Quit Thundercloud (Remote closed the connection) 03.55.17 Join goffa [0] (n=goffa@216.220.23.105) 04.01.06 Quit efyx (Remote closed the connection) 04.06.53 Quit Bensawsome ("The awsome is gone :(") 04.10.41 Join coatman_ [0] (i=coatman@ppp-70-246-133-173.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net) 04.13.33 Join Bensawsome [0] (n=Bensawso@unaffiliated/bensawsome) 04.13.44 Quit jfc (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 04.15.04 Quit coatman (Nick collision from services.) 04.15.09 Nick coatman_ is now known as coatman (i=coatman@ppp-70-246-133-173.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net) 04.15.32 Quit coatman (Client Quit) 04.15.38 Join coatman [0] (i=coatman@ppp-70-246-133-173.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net) 04.17.15 Join jfc [0] (n=john@dpc691978010.direcpc.com) 04.18.09 Nick HellDragon is now known as EmoDragon (n=jd@Wikipedia/HellDragon) 04.20.55 # Anyone know Mark Coleman's IRC / Forum nick? 04.21.38 Part testfire 04.22.30 # He slapped a CC license notification on one of the graveyard themes (X5 - Pulse) - but didn't update the .wps file or anything else... 04.28.10 Join BlakeJohnson86 [0] (n=bjohnson@c-71-63-161-27.hsd1.mn.comcast.net) 04.30.23 Join jhulst [0] (n=jhulst@unaffiliated/jhulst) 04.37.34 Quit BHSPitLappy (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 04.40.08 Join miepchen^schlaf_ [0] (n=miepchen@p54BF5419.dip.t-dialin.net) 04.45.53 Join saratoga [0] (n=9803c264@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-79189ba12b7fd6a6) 04.46.32 # would it be easy to update rbutil to detect the ipod classic and report that its unsupported 04.47.41 Join BHSPitLappy [0] (n=BHSPitLa@unaffiliated/bhspitmonkey) 04.50.07 Quit erram_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 04.53.11 Quit miepchen^schlaf (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 04.55.51 Quit midgey () 04.59.36 Join midgey [0] (n=tjross@66-227-210-181.dhcp.trcy.mi.charter.com) 05.00.06 # saratoga: I think we don't know if there's anything that distinguishes them yet. 05.00.24 # I imagine there must be, since iTunes can distinguish, but we need to know what it is too. 05.06.31 Nick EmoDragon is now known as hd (n=jd@Wikipedia/HellDragon) 05.06.51 Join solexx [0] (n=jrschulz@e176119022.adsl.alicedsl.de) 05.12.50 Quit midgey () 05.14.32 Quit tvelocity (Remote closed the connection) 05.14.50 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 05.16.40 Quit jhulst (Remote closed the connection) 05.21.27 Join jhulst [0] (n=jhulst@unaffiliated/jhulst) 05.24.04 Quit fdinel (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 05.24.10 Quit solexx_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 05.33.20 Join midgey [0] (n=tjross@66-227-210-181.dhcp.trcy.mi.charter.com) 05.35.12 Join erram [0] (n=erram@cpe-70-114-41-70.satx.res.rr.com) 05.35.52 Quit midgey (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 05.35.58 Join midgey [0] (n=tjross@66-227-210-181.dhcp.trcy.mi.charter.com) 05.36.24 Quit midgey (Client Quit) 05.48.01 # hey could I get write access to the wiki? I'd like to start documenting the rockbox DB format, as I now have a lot of it figured out. wikiname is ArenOlson 05.49.02 Quit Horscht ("electromagnetic radiation from satellite debris") 05.51.49 # ok.. I think I've done this so many times I've managed to confuse myself. Trying to unbrick an e260r again.. anyone about? 05.54.40 # reacocard: done 05.54.49 # saratoga: thanks 05.55.05 # Yondering: you're probably not going to have much luck finding anyone at this hour 05.55.15 # saratoga, thanks anyway :) 05.55.23 # that said, everything is on the wiki and Daniel's page, so I'd start reading through all that 05.55.29 # should be able to figure it out from that 05.56.03 # yeah.. I've been digging through it.. trying to follow the unbrick page as close as I can.. this thing is acting weird though. sometimes it does what the wiki says, sometimes not. 05.56.03 Quit saratoga ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 05.59.00 # Yondering, are you using the right firmware 05.59.18 # advcomp2019, near as I can tell :( 06.02.23 # Yondering, are you using this file: http://daniel.haxx.se/sansa/e200/rhapsody/rhapsody-1.0.2.31.zip 06.02.58 # advcomp2019, I've tried that one once before I think.. if you believe it's the right one I'll stick with it. 06.03.40 # the e200 and e200R firmware is different that is why i asked 06.04.53 # ok.. I downloaded that one again, to be sure it's right.. separate directory.. 06.05.41 # just says upgrade finished, resetting.. turn it on again and.. the same. 06.07.50 # ok.. are you sure it is an e200R? 06.09.14 # positive.. the reason I wanted to try rockbox in the first place was to get rid of rhapsody bugging me all the time when I just wanted to play my own files. ;) 06.10.07 # o ok i was just checking 06.10.37 # np :) 06.10.41 Join Nic [0] (n=chatzill@bas3-toronto12-1088945995.dsl.bell.ca) 06.11.09 # I think I messed it up with e200tool actually. 06.11.31 Quit hannesd (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 06.11.33 # the sansa.fmt trick doesn't seem to want to work. 06.11.40 # you used the e200tool on what OS 06.12.07 # linux 06.12.37 # o ok good 06.12.39 # I wonder if I tried to use the wrong image with it..? 06.14.32 # trying one now... http://daniel.haxx.se/sansa/e200/BL_SD_boardSupportSD.btl 06.15.09 # that is the e200r bootloader 06.15.44 # should be the proper one to use then, correct? 06.16.05 # yea 06.18.20 Quit Nic ("ChatZilla 0.9.81 [Firefox 2.0.0.16/2008070205]") 06.22.00 # ok.. recovery mode.. copy pp5022.mi4 and BL_SD_boardSupportSD.btl, and create sansa.fmt, correct? 06.23.59 Quit Zarggg () 06.25.30 # cool.. that worked. 06.29.55 Quit coatman ("See You All Later") 06.30.01 # Yondering, is it working now then? 06.30.33 Join JdGordon|phone [0] (n=zsirc@dyn-118-139-1-19.its.monash.edu.au) 06.31.03 # advcomp2019, yes.. back to factory setup on it, thanks.. now to see if I can get rockbox working properly once & for all. I've written the recovery steps down if I screw it up again. Thanks again. 06.31.50 Quit m0f0x ("sleep") 06.32.56 # hmm actually.. this thing isn't harassing me any more about rhapsody. I wonder if it'll play ogg without rockbox.. 06.33.39 # i dont think the sansas can play ogg.... 06.34.10 # didn't think so either.. throwing some on it now to test 06.35.32 Nick num1 is now known as num1_ (n=brian@unaffiliated/num1) 06.37.28 # JdGordon|phone, the only one i know that can is the sansa clip 06.37.48 # if it doesn't.. I'll just keep tinkering with rockbox. Had it working once before but couldn't boot back to sansaOS or connect with usb the first time. The second time around I couldn't boot either sansa or rockbox. ;) 06.38.41 # hmm copy a directory with ogg files and they disappear. interesting. ;) 06.39.32 # the sansa firmware will not read oggs unless you use rockbox 06.40.00 # ok. I just hope I can get installed properly for once. 06.40.21 # Will iPod Nano 3gen be supported in the future? Is it on the todo-list or is it just difficult to make for various reasons? 06.41.15 # Yondering, if you follow the steps right it should work 06.41.29 # It would be awesome with a iPod Nano and relacing the memory from 4 GB to 32 GB. 06.41.39 # And then have Rockbox. 06.41.51 # advcomp2019, that's just it, lol.. I thought I was following the steps. :) 06.41.52 Quit JdGordon|phone (Remote closed the connection) 06.42.03 # Zambezi, there is no one working that one so not sure when it will happen 06.42.18 # if you want 32GB flash then get a sansa v1 and wait for 32GB microSDHC cards to come out 06.44.26 # 32gb.. that's a lot of music. 06.44.29 # Galois: And rob and bank so I can afford it? :-P 06.45.56 # the most affordable choice for rockboxable flash memory is probably the 2GB sansa e250 on froobi.com for $30, plus an 8GB microSDHC from amazon for another $30 06.47.58 # I have just 4 GB now. I have an iPod mini 2gen so I just need a gluegun and a flashcard. There's 32 GB. 06.48.39 # hmm 10g for $60, eh? that's not bad at all. 06.50.59 # Holly f! I think a store mispriced a memorycard. Or what do you think about a CF-card 32 GB for 10 dollars? :-D 06.53.22 # CF is one of those huge flash cards right 06.53.39 Quit jhulst (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 06.53.41 # could not find rockbox bootloader. =/ 06.53.46 # This discussion of memory cards and prices isn't really relevant to Rockbox development or support. 06.54.40 # hm - can't load rockbox.mi4 - file too big - can't load rockbox.e200 - file not found? 06.55.10 # Yondering, you did not put the .rockbox in the right location or did not put it there 06.55.23 # advcomp2019: That wouldn't explain "file too big" 06.55.25 # I cp -r .rockbox mnt/ 06.55.52 # as per instructions, exactly 06.56.06 # Yondering: What instructions are you following, exactly? 06.56.17 # http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/SansaE200RInstallationFromLinux 06.56.22 # Llorean, o i saw the file not found first 06.57.21 # Yondering: And your players is mounted at mnt/? 06.58.05 # * Llorean wonders who wrote those instructions, as they seem really kinda roundabout 06.58.14 # ~/rhapsody/rockbox/mnt 06.58.20 # Yondering: Okay, what did you mean by "could not find rockbox bootloader"? 06.58.37 # that's what it says on the screen when I turn it on ;) 06.59.11 # hang on.. will get you the entire text.. gonna take me a moment 06.59.35 # That means you haven't installed something exactly as directed, though I don't know what as I'm rather curious what's giving that message. 06.59.48 # The Rockbox Bootloader is basically the first thing run, so there would be nothing before it to give that message. 07.01.58 # Rockbox boot loader Version: 4.0 Sandask Sansa e200 Partition 0: 0x0B 3184 MB Partition 1 0x04 20MB mi4 size: 0 can't load rockbox.mi4 File too big Can't load rockbox.e200 File not found 07.02.07 # flashes that for a moment and shuts down 07.03.10 Join perrikwp [0] (i=18d26cb4@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-95401ded17ea9f3a) 07.04.05 # So nothing that says "could not find rockbox bootloader" 07.04.09 # Those messages come from the bootloader. 07.04.20 # sounds like the rockbox build you downloaded was a bad download or you have a corrupted file system on sansa 07.04.22 # Check your Rockbox.mi4 file and compare it to the one in the archive. 07.05.14 # this was freshly downloaded, is there a list of md5 checksums I can compare? 07.05.14 Quit vort3x (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 07.05.38 # No. 07.05.49 # Just compare it with the one still inside the archive, or redownload the archiver and compare. 07.05.52 Join vort3x [0] (n=vortex@unaffiliated/dfa001) 07.06.04 # ls 07.09.03 # oh well, I'll have to make another stab at it later :) thanks. 07.14.39 Quit perrikwp ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") 07.14.51 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 07.17.36 Join perrikwp [0] (i=18d26cb4@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-57456d5728c13c13) 07.17.53 Quit perrikwp (Client Quit) 07.21.09 Join OlivierBorowski [0] (n=OlivierB@sab57-5-88-179-80-205.fbx.proxad.net) 07.23.22 Quit OlivierBorowski (Remote closed the connection) 07.24.10 Join einhirn [0] (i=Miranda@bsod.rz.tu-clausthal.de) 07.29.31 # aw, cool. got it working now, copied the files with a file manager instead of a terminal window. don't know why that would have made a difference, but I'm not complaining. 07.33.46 # thank you again for all the help, advcomp2019 and Llorean! 07.38.11 Join LinusN [0] (n=linus@rockbox/developer/LinusN) 07.41.41 Join hannesd [0] (n=light@p5B160042.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 07.45.58 Part toffe82 07.56.45 Quit Yondering ("Leaving") 08.12.31 Join vitja [0] (n=vitja@79.120.98.174) 08.17.18 Quit miepchen^schlaf_ () 08.22.39 Quit Battousai (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 08.23.14 Part safetydan 08.24.51 Join Battousai [0] (n=bryan@maduin.southcape.org) 08.44.11 Join snoh [0] (n=dave@cpc1-sout6-0-0-cust616.sotn.cable.ntl.com) 09.00.03 Join Rob2223 [0] (n=Miranda@p4FDCE37C.dip.t-dialin.net) 09.03.19 Join ender` [0] (i=krneki@foo.eternallybored.org) 09.10.17 Join petur [50] (n=petur@rockbox/developer/petur) 09.14.52 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 09.18.17 Quit Rob2222 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 09.20.48 Join Psycownage [0] (n=Philip_j@user-5af2b3b4.tcl127.dsl.pol.co.uk) 09.22.03 Quit BHSPitLappy (Remote closed the connection) 09.23.37 Quit snoh (Remote closed the connection) 09.25.41 Join pbryan [0] (n=pbryan@S010600095baae0ff.vf.shawcable.net) 09.25.42 Part pbryan ("Byeee.") 09.59.41 Quit nplus (Remote closed the connection) 10.06.11 Join Bagderr [0] (n=daniel@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-eb83d35b18db377c) 10.06.36 Nick Bagderr is now known as B4gder (n=daniel@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-eb83d35b18db377c) 10.17.30 Join Nico_P [0] (i=53915df2@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-1598420318605c3a) 10.20.02 Quit Nico_P (Client Quit) 10.20.49 Join Nico_P [0] (i=53915df2@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-3177392a006a2628) 10.24.19 Join pixelma [50] (i=pixelma@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 10.26.29 Part Psycownage 10.29.39 Quit amiconn (Nick collision from services.) 10.29.46 Join amiconn [50] (n=jens@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 10.43.23 Quit EspeonEefi (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 10.44.30 Join EspeonEefi [0] (i=espeonee@18.95.1.65) 10.45.42 # LinusN: I removed his post and asked him politely in PM to repost it in English. 10.46.43 # btw, how do i re-read the forum rules once i have registered? 10.47.19 # btw. it was meant as a helpful post 10.47.21 # The forum rules aren't actually in that initial screen, it's more or less just a disclaimer and a reference to the rules post. 10.47.45 # pixelma: i'm sure it was 10.48.18 # As far as I know you can only re-read the agreement by logging out and clicking "Register" 10.48.21 # though he could have included a translation (pointing to the forum guidelines and the thread in the new port section) 10.48.27 # But I think I only added one sentence to it. 10.48.34 # Llorean: that's not very good 10.49.13 # LinusN: The forum guidelines themselves are in the announcement forum. 10.49.56 # The agreement is just an agreement to follow the posted guidelines, and a disclaimer saying that we (the host) don't validate posts, don't promise that anything posted will verifiably be true, etc, etc. 10.51.18 # As I said at devcon, I'd like to tidy up the rules. Make them more user friendly, less "long and boring" and easier to respond to positively. 10.51.31 # ah, yes 10.51.34 # But haven't gotten around to it obviously. =/ 10.52.14 # :-) 10.54.02 # Llorean: talked with the floss guys yet? 10.55.45 # B4gder: They haven't contacted me again, so no arrangement ever got made beyond the agreement to do it. So I don't know. 10.55.53 # aha 11.00.58 # I've sent a follow up, though, so I guess we'll see 11.14.54 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 11.17.27 Quit nuonguy ("This computer has gone to sleep") 11.18.40 Join J-23 [0] (n=aldwulf@a105.net128.okay.pl) 11.25.32 Quit XavierGr () 11.25.41 Join n1s [0] (n=nils@rockbox/developer/n1s) 11.27.48 Quit reacocard (".") 11.30.03 Quit vitja (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 11.33.42 Join tonz [0] (n=d517d69a@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-7860cc05f94941f3) 11.36.22 # hey folks, first of all rockbox rocks ;) but lately, well it is present since months, the file ordering changed on my rockboxed iriver h120 the directories are orderd in reverse starting with z, the files seem to be okay ... what can i do? i want the directories to be in alphabetic order, starting with A 11.36.55 # There's a setting that controls the sort order - maybe it's been changed accidentally? 11.37.29 # yeah, tried that, but this only lets me choose between time and alphabetic order 11.37.47 # And if you choose alphabetic order, it doesn't work? 11.38.15 # sond related to FS#8949 11.38.35 # it works, but it orders from z to a, which is not what i want 11.38.54 # s/sond/sounds/ 11.39.57 Quit J-23 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 11.40.24 # thanks n1s 11.40.31 # that helped a lot 11.40.32 # :) 11.41.13 # bye folks 11.41.18 Quit tonz ("CGI:IRC") 11.41.42 # was that sarcasm? 11.41.50 # * linuxstb scratches head 11.42.10 # my detector stated to blink too... 11.42.14 # r 11.46.02 Quit Nico_P ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") 11.47.01 Join mcuelenaere [0] (n=mcuelena@rockbox/developer/mcuelenaere) 11.50.11 Join DerDome [0] (n=DerDome@dslb-082-083-229-000.pools.arcor-ip.net) 11.59.23 Join vitja [0] (n=vitja@79.120.98.174) 12.00.37 Join mf0102 [0] (n=michi@85.127.20.140) 12.20.14 # vitja: Hi, I thought you were on vacation? ;) 12.23.44 # linuxstb, no I' 12.23.57 # I'm just going tomorrow 12.24.35 # last steps with multimeter 12.25.44 # I've just been looking at your latest iaudio patch - it's looking good, but I have a couple of very minor questions/comments... Firstly, why did you make the change to tools/configure to change the $tool variable to use the telechips format for the main Rockbox binary? 12.26.17 # hmm cause it doesn't work the old way 12.26.26 # The pcm-tcc7xx.c should be named pcm-telechips.c - to be consistent with the other -telechips.c files, but I can fix that when I commit. 12.26.32 # vitja: What didn't work? 12.27.30 # linuxstb, -add i7 -tcc=crc work for me 12.28.11 # linuxstb, rename that of course and initial values should be added for other ports 12.28.30 # linuxstb, and there are some problems with FIQ on tcc77x for me 12.29.24 # How are you loading the main rockbox binary? 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That's no good! ;) 15.17.14 # no, more like RAM usage 15.17.28 # Ahh. 15.18.54 Quit Lambduh ("Leaving") 15.26.17 Join itcheg [0] (n=IceChat7@h-67-100-146-176.nycmny83.covad.net) 15.31.51 Quit Nico_P ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") 15.37.38 Join avis [0] (n=ident@pdpc/supporter/student/avis) 15.42.21 Quit Davide-NYC ("ChatZilla 0.9.83 [Firefox 3.0.1/2008070208]") 15.46.19 # anyone wanna have a quick look at a fixme I found in playlist.c:2076? 15.56.24 # haha, this fixme is almost excatly 2 years old! 15.56.26 # to the day! 15.57.24 # Haha! 15.57.28 # r10544 | miipekk | 2006-08-12 21:00:39 +1000 (Sat, 12 Aug 2006) 15.57.32 # Long time to wait! :) 15.58.15 # Damn, over 8000 revisions ago, too! 16.07.05 # does anyone have an opinion on the bookmark file? 16.09.30 Quit einhirn ("Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org") 16.15.30 # can bookmarks only be used with dirplay?! 16.16.18 Part LinusN 16.18.57 Join avis- [0] (n=ident@99.162.206.96) 16.29.57 Join luckz [0] (i=luckz@luckz.de) 16.30.40 # I have rockbox on my X5L as of about two years ago. just recently I did my first update in around 9 months and used rbutilqt.exe to install the newest bootloader and rockbox version. now, my rockbox has issues shutting down/starting again - after I shut it down and when I turn it on again, no matter if that's a minute or a week later, it most of the time shows "shutting down..." in the display and I have to hold the power button for a while to be able to start pro 16.30.49 # in the display and I have to hold the power button for a while to be able to start properly <- cutoff, I suppose 16.32.00 Quit avis (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 16.33.14 # luckz: it's not a problem http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=18066.0 16.33.44 # ohhh 16.33.59 # okay, so I just have to hold down the on button longer, alright. 16.35.03 # rockbox can actually play video well now? 16.35.16 # last i checked (like a year ago) it was still pretty crappy on video 16.36.16 # do people use bookmarks to bookmark inside the current track? or inside the track inside the playlist? or is there no real difference? 16.36.30 # Quazgaa: What device do you use Rockbox on? 16.36.42 # x5 16.37.13 # Quazgaa: Then I would expect Rockbox's video playback to be quite good. 16.37.34 # when i tested it it could do 15 fps with no sound 16.37.59 # Quazgaa: Now it's 32fps with sound - http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/PluginMpegplayer 16.38.11 # nice 16.42.47 # JdGordon: a bookmark is really within a specific song in a particular playlist 16.43.44 # hmmm 16.49.20 # there was some discussion about bookmarks during devcon, must be in one of the recorded meetings 16.51.55 # I've got some motivation so i want to fix them (2nd time lucky :p ) im at a brick wall because I have no idea how they should be stored/named... 16.52.22 # dirplay and m3u playlist bookmarks are easy... but inram playlists? where should they be saved, and what name? 16.52.32 # open the keyboard? that slows the whole thing down... 16.53.18 Join toffe82 [0] (n=chatzill@h-74-0-180-178.snvacaid.covad.net) 16.54.38 # JdGordon: usually they are saved in the parent dir with the name of the dir the file you were playing 16.55.34 # but a playlist with random tracks? 16.55.55 # I was tihnking adding a .rockbox/bookmarks/ folder and either asking the user, or..? 16.56.22 # i have no idea, i don't use the feature :P 16.57.04 # neither :p I just know its not done nicely 16.57.24 # If a bookmark is "a position in a song, in a particular playlist", then shouldn't saving a bookmark also save the playlist (if it's an in-ram playlist)? 16.58.00 # The bookmarks contains that info 16.58.05 # *bookmark 16.58.28 # well, the way I would change it is to just copy the .playlist_control file and add the resume info to the end of that, so it will work for any type of playlist 16.59.05 # in my test it didnt even let me create a bookmark if it wasnt a dirplay playlist 16.59.18 # A bookmark file can contain multiple bookmarks 17.00.05 # ? 17.02.47 # amiconn: ... explain? 17.05.16 # * amiconn wonders what explanation is needed 17.05.28 # * GodEater does too 17.05.42 # A .bmark file can contain more than one bookmark. 17.05.57 # i.e. more than one resume point 17.06.19 # and when you open it, you see a list of all those points that you can choose from. 17.06.29 # Referring to different playlists, or just different points in the same playlist? 17.07.44 # I think the same, I'm not sure how you'd place a bookmark from more than one playlist in the same .bmark file 17.07.50 # but don't quote me on that 17.08.06 # I don't use the feature very often at all 17.08.22 # is that part of bookmarks really important? 17.08.33 # Iirc the .bmark file contains one line per bookmark, i.e. in theory the playlists could be different 17.09.09 # JdGordon: I don't know as I don't normally use bookmarks, but for those who do, backwards compatibility might be important 17.09.37 # well, what I'm suggesting would kill backward compatibility anyway 17.11.06 # I don't think it would make sense to throw away the multiple marks per bookmark file at all 17.11.14 # when I *have* used it, that's a particularly good feature 17.11.48 # Same here. It's very useful on audio books and radio plays. 17.12.03 # when the playlist is only one file though? 17.13.08 # well, I guess it could be kept, but we still have the problem on how/where to save the .bmark file 17.15.00 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 17.15.17 Join jhulst [0] (n=jhulst@unaffiliated/jhulst) 17.16.25 Join linuxstb_ [0] (n=linuxstb@rockbox/developer/linuxstb) 17.16.31 Quit linuxstb (Nick collision from services.) 17.16.33 Nick linuxstb_ is now known as linuxstb (n=linuxstb@rockbox/developer/linuxstb) 17.20.46 # are bookmarks added to the exsisting bmark file (if there is one) automatically? 17.23.41 # Yes. 17.24.31 # ok 17.32.49 Join herrwaldo [0] (n=waldo@ip-81-11-223-59.dsl.scarlet.be) 17.35.46 # Does replaygain works on the sansa E ? I looks like it doesn't or I copy the wrong files on my sansa ? 17.36.46 # toffe82: It should work the same on all swcodec targets. 17.37.08 Join hannesd_ [0] (n=light@p5B161F36.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 17.37.34 Join nuonguy [0] (n=john@c-71-198-1-139.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) 17.37.42 # strange, I will check my files because I have a big differenc in level from one song to another and I didn't have it with the gigabeat X 17.37.56 Part B4gder 17.39.25 Quit faemir (Remote closed the connection) 17.42.59 Join saratoga [0] (n=9803c6dd@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-182a0cca111fd9c6) 17.43.24 # toffe82: i've also noticed some replaygain weirdness lately 17.43.48 # but have been too busy to investigate 17.46.24 Quit Thundercloud (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 17.46.41 Join XavierGr [0] (n=xavier@rockbox/staff/XavierGr) 17.48.05 Join faemir [0] (n=faemir@88-106-250-119.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) 17.48.50 # JdGordon: did you listen to the bookmark/playlist related parts of the devcon meetings? 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Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org") 21.21.26 # LambdaCalculus37: ah, so m4a and m4p for aac and m4a and m4b for alac? 21.22.57 # umm s/m4p/mp4/ 21.23.13 # n1s: I was about to say... :) 21.23.54 # n1s: .m4b files are audio books. I don't know if they come in lossless files as well, so you can just add them under AAC. 21.27.08 # so all three for both aac and alac then? 21.28.06 Join tzafrir_laptop [0] (n=tzafrir@local.xorcom.com) 21.30.28 # n1s: For lossless, exclude .m4b until it's confirmed that there are lossless audiobooks. 21.31.11 # Isn't .m4p protected files? 21.31.34 # Yeah, they are, and therefore shouldn't be listed to avoid confusion. 21.31.57 # ok, gotcha, I got these combinations from id3.c but i guess both alac and aac use the same metadata parser so maybe that decides which codec to load. 21.32.07 # rasher: good point 21.33.07 # also we don't recognize m4p only mp4 21.33.30 # s/only/but/ 21.34.50 # I decided to not list ape at all for the targets where it isn't realtime on any compression level 21.35.20 # Ah. So AAC:[m4a,m4b,mp4] Alac:[m4a]? 21.35.23 Quit Bensawsome (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 21.35.38 # Wait, AAC:[m4a,m4b,mp4] Alac:[m4a,mp4]? 21.36.27 # that's what i was going for, yes 21.37.07 # Do we accept raw aac or alac? 21.37.55 # neither are listed in filetypes.c so i don't think so 21.38.33 Quit tessarakt (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 21.39.05 Join tessarakt [0] (n=jens@e180076020.adsl.alicedsl.de) 21.44.04 # Has anyone looked at FS#9209 recently? I attached a patch which allows the md5sum plugin to be interrupted. It also increases the size of the read buffer to 16KB (from a measly 512 bytes) which improves the performance considerably 21.44.42 # hi, how can I tell a sansa V1 from V2? 21.44.53 # http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/SansaFAQ#Which_Sansa_models_does_Rockbox mentions V2 as unsupported? 21.45.07 # Are those different models? Same device with a different firmware? 21.45.27 # no completely differnt hardware 21.46.06 # With unfortunately the same outer shell, so basically the only way to tell them apart is firmware version 21.46.16 Join efyx [0] (n=efyx@lap34-1-82-224-140-171.fbx.proxad.net) 21.46.46 # Any idea how can I be sure to buy a V1 device? Or those are unlikely to be available anymore 21.48.38 # There may still be some around, but if you buy new you're pretty likely to get a V2 21.50.59 Join ackers [0] (n=Becks@80-235-149-109.cable.ubr22.newt.blueyonder.co.uk) 21.51.27 # Or try here: http://www.froobi.com/SanDisk-Sansa-e280-8GB-MP3-Media-Player-Factory-Recertified_p_78-32283.html 21.58.48 Quit LambdaCalculus37 ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") 22.00.07 Join felix [0] (n=53b0222e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-93d45e778a8ccb23) 22.03.16 Quit felix (Client Quit) 22.03.35 Join felix [0] (n=53b0222e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-1a43f38a1247c043) 22.04.34 Quit felix (Client Quit) 22.05.12 # does anyone know what key to use to turn off the ipod simulator? or is it jsut closing the window? 22.06.38 Join stripwax [0] (n=Miranda@87-194-34-169.bethere.co.uk) 22.06.56 Join Nico_P [0] (i=52e4fb59@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-dc33df3bfaf73bb9) 22.10.05 # reacocard: just close the window. The simulator doesn't simulate shutdown afaik 22.10.13 # reacocard: yeah, just close the window 22.10.33 # alright, thanks 22.11.44 Quit ackers (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 22.12.00 # n1s: .aac is a raw AAC stream, and pretty much nothing decodes those, so we shouldn't list that extension 22.12.58 # saratoga: ok, thanks for clarifying 22.14.10 # petur, do you think FS#9227 is ready to commit? 22.14.18 Quit Stephencc ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 22.17.30 # oh, I just recently discovered the related bug report and thought that it only applied to hwcodec targets based on Marc Guay's comment and so only tested on my Ondio 22.17.44 Quit Nico_P ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") 22.21.04 Join nplus [0] (n=nplus@141.25.Globcom.Net) 22.21.39 Join nplus_ [0] (n=nplus@141.25.globcom.net) 22.21.43 Quit nplus (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 22.21.53 Nick nplus_ is now known as nplus (n=nplus@141.25.globcom.net) 22.22.00 # bertrik, sure.... 22.22.07 # gtg anyway 22.22.17 Quit petur ("*plop*") 22.22.33 # pixelma: could you look at fs#9266 when you have time? 22.25.11 Quit stripwax ("Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org") 22.28.35 Join EspeonEefi [0] (i=espeonee@30-6-67.wireless.csail.mit.edu) 22.30.56 # n1s: yes, will do in a bit 22.34.12 Part tzafrir_laptop ("Leaving") 22.34.17 Join ahti_ [0] (n=ahti@88-196-185-130-dsl.rgu.estpak.ee) 22.36.23 Quit neddy (Remote closed the connection) 22.37.00 Join Thundercloud [0] (n=thunderc@84-51-130-71.judith186.adsl.metronet.co.uk) 22.38.00 Join bluebrother [0] (n=dom@rockbox/staff/bluebrother) 22.49.20 # n1s: one thing from reading the diff - wavplay is not a hwcodec thing. The Player can't play wavs because of its MAS type. You could use the "masf" feature instead 22.49.40 Quit AhtiK (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 22.53.56 # and while you're at it - the "mp3" in the hwcodec player table is not wrapped in a \fname{} and hence looks differently. I would think it's better if it would use \fname too and also mentioned .mp2 22.54.29 # I meant the "supported file types" table there 22.55.13 Quit herrwaldo (Remote closed the connection) 22.57.56 Quit Hadaka (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 23.03.17 # n1s: other than that it looks good... only one other suggestion: maybe link the second table in the swcodec player manuals from the "various" line in the former so that one can easily see that there is additional information somewhere? 23.08.14 Join einhirn [0] (n=Miranda@p5B030F09.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 23.10.46 Join neddy [0] (n=john@nat/sun/x-f70126563bd9408a) 23.15.07 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 23.16.12 # rasher: is it normal that the new Rockbox header does not get picked up by genlang (doing a "manual" update)? 23.16.48 Join Hadaka [0] (i=naked@naked.iki.fi) 23.20.09 Quit solexx ("leaving") 23.20.29 # pixelma: Yeah, right now genlang strips ALL comments. It should probably be modified to allow comments on the first lines 23.20.42 # Or only strip comments with 3 #s 23.23.26 # aha, ok. I just need to be a bit careful with that for the moment so it doesn't vanish again. 23.26.22 Join herrwaldo [0] (n=waldo@ip-81-11-204-253.dsl.scarlet.be) 23.26.27 Join ackers [0] (n=Becks@80-235-149-109.cable.ubr22.newt.blueyonder.co.uk) 23.26.37 Join Dave2 [0] (i=Dave2@freenode/staff/dave2) 23.27.38 Join stripwax [0] (n=Miranda@87-194-34-169.bethere.co.uk) 23.28.03 Quit ackers (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 23.29.14 Quit jgarvey ("Leaving") 23.31.52 # Hm 23.32.00 # Can anyone tell me the buttons for a-b mode? 23.32.05 # I can't find in the manual 23.32.11 Join JeffreyRodriguez [0] (n=JeffreyR@c-76-109-18-212.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) 23.32.30 # Play + Left / Right (h100) 23.32.35 # for e200 please :) 23.32.44 # I'll try it anyway 23.32.56 # I'm pretty sure it's in the WPS button table now 23.33.07 # Hello all :) 23.33.30 # pixelma: I can't spot it (http://download.rockbox.org/manual/rockbox-sansae200/rockbox-buildch4.html#x7-510004.3.1) 23.33.37 Quit tecnmmag (K-lined) 23.33.58 # Just signed up and was wondering if anyone could assign me wiki write permissions 23.34.24 # created an Ipod Video theme to share 23.35.08 # pixelma: Found it, in keymap-e200.c... 23.35.17 Quit flssrswkgd (K-lined) 23.35.24 Join Bensawsome [0] (n=Bensawso@unaffiliated/bensawsome) 23.36.09 # pixelma: genlang should be fixed now 23.36.33 # JeffreyRodriguez: is your nick the same as your real name? 23.36.51 # kugel: it's in the general settings chapter, part of the repeat mode description 23.36.54 # yes 23.37.31 # thought it said use real name somewhere when I signed up must have been opposite since looks like no one else is lol 23.37.53 # pixelma: Ah. Well, I expecpted to be in the wps keymap description (too) 23.38.05 # no. You need to use a real name in the wiki, but not in the forums or on irc. 23.38.06 Join matsl [0] (n=matsl@1-1-4-2a.mal.sth.bostream.se) 23.38.15 # ahh ok 23.38.30 # ok, you should have write permissions now 23.38.37 Join obo [0] (n=obo@rockbox/developer/obo) 23.38.37 # Sweet thanks :) 23.38.41 Join |obo| [0] (n=obo@70-140-190-194.lightspeed.hstntx.sbcglobal.net) 23.38.47 # you're welcome 23.38.55 Quit |obo| (Client Quit) 23.38.59 Join safetydan [0] (n=evertond@rockbox/developer/safetydan) 23.39.22 # kugel: it's not just a simple button (combo) press for all targets 23.39.39 # from the WPS I mean 23.39.53 # pixelma: I understand, but for those, it should appear there too 23.39.56 # rasher: thanks :) 23.40.21 # * bluebrother awaits a manual patch from kugel :P 23.40.57 # grr 23.41.06 # Maybe. 23.41.13 # hehe :) 23.41.17 # ;) 23.42.51 # Has anyone seen buschel lately? 23.45.06 Join LambdaCalculus37 [0] (n=LambdaCa@c-24-0-218-198.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) 23.49.36 Join MarcGuay [0] (n=chatzill@ip216-239-76-165.vif.net) 23.50.45 # Any particular reason for the Merchandise wiki page being "deleted"? Seems to still be active... 23.52.06 # the above being directed at rasher, or Llorean I suppose... 23.52.33 Quit joshin (Remote closed the connection) 23.52.37 Join joshin [0] (n=joshin@VDSL-130-13-185-112.PHNX.QWEST.NET) 23.52.38 # MarcGuay: Huh, Llorean told me it was closed - didn't bother to check 23.53.18 # rasher: Okay. I might not have checked closely enough myself. Just saw the product listings... 23.54.22 # MarcGuay: Yeah, no idea. I guess Llorean is needed to settle this 23.55.00 Quit Schmogel (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer))