--- Log for 25.08.108 Server: kornbluth.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: @logbot Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 4 days and 4 hours ago 00.01.38 Join Casainho [0] (n=chatzill@89-180-69-153.net.novis.pt) 00.02.39 Join CyBergRind|w [0] (n=cbr@212.98.160.130) 00.04.20 Quit bluebrother ("duck and cover") 00.12.27 Nick oofus is now known as oofus[away] (n=chris@oofus.demon.co.uk) 00.16.51 # hello again :-) 00.17.28 # I have a question about RB bootloader: is really need to use RB kernel on bootloader? 00.18.02 # is possible to launch RB firmware without initialize RB kernel? 00.18.54 Quit [CBR]Unspoken|w (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00.19.14 Quit snoh (Remote closed the connection) 00.19.24 # Bagder: are you there? 00.19.26 # you mean init the BSS or what is "initialize" in this context? 00.21.16 # Bagder: well, I have one bootstrap, I could have another bootloader like the RB one, but based on bootstrap... 00.22.09 # I would like to know if for launching RB firmware the important it to mount the FAT partition and read the RB firmware.... 00.22.20 # since the rb bootloader may get too big, why not stat with bootstrap loading the rb bootloader? 00.22.25 # start 00.23.26 # no, rockbox cannot have opinions from where you load it before you have started it 00.23.39 # yes, bootstrap loads bootloader.... but, the bootloader could be based on bootstrap code and not on RB bootloader code - and why? because bootstrap code is done, and maybe is simple to add it FAT library and ATA 00.23.48 # but putting it on the fat fs is how we do on all targets of today 00.24.12 # bootstrap is done sure but bootloader is done as well 00.24.30 Quit bertrik ("Leaving") 00.24.52 # bootloader is done not for this ARM at91sam9260 00.25.02 # no, but for several other ARM based ones 00.25.05 # but bootstrap is 00.25.13 # yes, but that lacks a lot of other stuff instead 00.25.31 # stuff, as what? (sorry, I ignore) 00.25.40 # and we want bootloaders to share code with other bootloaders of course 00.26.03 # stuff like fat, display code, buttons 00.26.26 Quit robin0800 (" HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- Now with extra fish!") 00.26.41 # rockbox FAT library needs kernel running? or can run without kernel? 00.26.54 Quit perrikwp ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") 00.27.00 Join perrikwp [0] (i=474cd1dd@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-5280d60b040cc8f3) 00.27.00 # It depends on the rockbox disk API 00.27.07 # saying in another way, could I use RB FAT library using the bootstrap? 00.27.23 # everything is possible 00.27.37 # the question is not that, the question is which is the sensible way 00.28.00 # Casainho: You may not be able to see it, but it makes more sense to adapt the existing Rockbox bootloaders than to try to adapt your bootstrap code. 00.28.34 # This is what they're trying to tell you. 00.29.27 # and you want that in the end anyway when you want your code to go into the rockbox code base 00.30.19 # okok - I think I understand -- but as I am not familiar with RB code (not even with much others), for me is almost the same -- thats why I am stuck with bootstrap, because it's done for this MCU and is well commented - this are advantages for me 00.30.23 Part livingdaylight 00.30.45 # so read that code and use all the info you gain there when you adapt the rockbox bootloader 00.32.21 # looks like the way to go....... 00.32.35 # then 00.33.38 # another question: does the RB firmware do again the system_init()??? 00.33.58 # or is not need since bootlaoder did that before? 00.34.37 # why does that matter? 00.34.47 # and btw: find . -name "*.c" | xargs grep system_init 00.36.52 # I just would like to understand... because bootstrat do system_init(), bootloader also.... so I was thinking if firmware also does 00.37.01 Quit ompaul (Client Quit) 00.38.14 # bootstrap is not rockbox code 00.38.52 # yes, I know, but it initializes also the system.... 00.38.56 # firmware can do it sure, in rolo etc 00.40.22 # I was asking for myself if every time there is like a jump over each code load stage, there is need to initialize the system --- bootstrap -> bootloader -> firmware 00.41.00 Quit faemir ("Leaving") 00.41.04 # everything initializes what it needs to 00.41.23 # and it usually depends on what it knows the prior stage did 00.42.08 Quit amiconn (" reboot") 00.43.23 Quit Nico_P (Remote closed the connection) 00.45.03 # thanks :-) -- I think I will dream with this CPU, I will sleep now -- If at least it was a feminine CPU :-) eheh :-) 00.45.09 Join amiconn [50] (n=jens@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 00.45.17 Quit Casainho ("ChatZilla 0.9.83 [Firefox 3.0.1/2008072820]") 00.46.17 Nick oofus[away] is now known as oofus (n=chris@oofus.demon.co.uk) 00.47.35 Quit ender` (" If I had only finished this sentence,") 00.48.00 Quit avis ("while we remain in the shadow of summers now past") 00.48.15 Join avis [0] (n=ident@pdpc/supporter/student/avis) 00.48.49 Quit avis (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 00.49.21 Join avis [0] (n=ident@pdpc/supporter/student/avis) 00.52.41 Quit herrwaldo (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00.54.37 Quit perrikwp ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") 00.58.13 # [2008-08-24 12:23:38] assuming you record to wav with the screen off, probably longer then playing music 00.58.24 # I was thinking mp3 or wavpack 00.58.52 # and I don't have a big enough microSD card to record 18 hours of wav 00.58.52 # Dhraakellian: why not try all of them? That will give a lot more information 01.00.44 # How low can you set the quality? Is 11kHz 8 bit mono possible? 01.02.13 # dunno 01.02.33 # On Sansa, recording only does 22.05kHz, 16 bit 01.02.47 # Selecting stereo/mono is possible 01.03.08 Nick oofus is now known as oofus[away] (n=chris@oofus.demon.co.uk) 01.03.13 # So you'd need 3GB for an 18 hour wav recording 01.05.52 Join n9xvt [0] (n=IceChat7@rrcs-24-123-231-224.central.biz.rr.com) 01.07.45 # hey i can confirm this one http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/8659?pagenum=5 on my c240 01.08.59 Join perrikwp [0] (i=4aa794a0@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-95309fa2eb8979f4) 01.11.36 Join fyrestorm [0] (n=fyre@cpe-68-173-168-48.nyc.res.rr.com) 01.16.14 Quit goffa_ (Remote closed the connection) 01.16.18 Join goffa [0] (n=goffa@216.220.23.105) 01.18.06 Join kushal_12_27_200 [0] (n=kushal@12.169.180.178) 01.21.42 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 01.22.35 # hmm 01.22.47 # if I cleared out a bunch of space on the internal storage... 01.26.00 # linuxstb: Is there any reason why you didn't implement a function to read the current viewport? 01.26.24 Quit fyre^OS (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 01.29.25 # or any other way to make the current vp visible to the rest of the code 01.31.01 Quit Zom ("leaving") 01.38.31 Nick Kopfgeldjaeger is now known as Kopfi|offline (n=nicolai@monitor-mode-enabled-on-mon0.phy0.de) 01.43.48 Nick oofus[away] is now known as oofus (n=chris@oofus.demon.co.uk) 01.45.52 Quit oofus (Remote closed the connection) 01.45.58 Quit n1s () 01.48.08 Part pixelma 01.52.43 Join BHSPitLappy [0] (n=BHSPitLa@unaffiliated/bhspitmonkey) 01.53.53 Join ZincAlloy [0] (n=d9eeddd1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-77cb7403651027d1) 01.55.57 Quit dabujo_ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 02.11.53 Quit massiveH ("Leaving") 02.17.15 Quit Bensawsome ("The awsome is gone :(") 02.17.54 Join Bensawsome [0] (n=Bensawso@unaffiliated/bensawsome) 02.19.17 Join n9xvt_ [0] (n=IceChat7@rrcs-24-123-231-224.central.biz.rr.com) 02.23.23 Quit n9xvt (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 02.27.02 Quit kushal_12_27_200 ("Leaving") 02.27.50 Quit perrikwp ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") 02.29.32 Join fyre^OS [0] (n=fyre@cpe-68-173-168-48.nyc.res.rr.com) 02.29.58 Quit ZincAlloy ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)") 02.32.42 # JdGordon|zzz: wake up :P 02.34.17 Quit Bensawsome ("The awsome is gone :(") 02.48.05 Quit fyrestorm (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 02.51.06 Quit fyre^OS (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 02.54.12 Join fyrestorm [0] (n=fyre@cpe-68-173-175-218.nyc.res.rr.com) 02.59.47 Part Unhelpful ("Leaving") 03.06.42 Quit Zarggg () 03.13.17 Join Zarggg [0] (n=z@65-78-69-194.c3-0.eas-ubr6.atw-eas.pa.cable.rcn.com) 03.19.06 Quit culture (Connection timed out) 03.21.44 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 03.21.55 Quit BlakeJohnson86 ("Leaving.") 03.22.43 Join BlakeJohnson86 [0] (n=bjohnson@c-71-63-161-27.hsd1.mn.comcast.net) 03.23.05 Join perrikwp [0] (i=d1a8d351@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-150cb8c1042b0af8) 03.23.44 Quit saratoga ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 03.24.48 Quit kugel ("ChatZilla 0.9.83 [Firefox 3.0.1/2008072820]") 03.29.13 Quit BHSPitLappy (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 03.31.33 Join Bensawsome [0] (n=Bensawso@unaffiliated/bensawsome) 03.33.34 Join Unhelpful [0] (n=Militant@pool-98-117-9-134.hrbgpa.fios.verizon.net) 03.39.12 Quit DerDome (Nick collision from services.) 03.39.13 Join DerDome1 [0] (n=DerDome@dslb-082-083-240-237.pools.arcor-ip.net) 03.39.25 Nick DerDome1 is now known as DerDome (n=DerDome@dslb-082-083-240-237.pools.arcor-ip.net) 03.43.35 Join kugel [0] (n=chatzill@unaffiliated/kugel) 03.44.27 Join Thundercloud [0] (n=thunderc@84-51-130-71.judith186.adsl.metronet.co.uk) 03.46.39 Quit fdinel (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 03.50.57 # JdGordon|zzz: j 03.51.00 Join Segadude [0] (n=sega@cpe-24-24-88-117.stny.res.rr.com) 03.51.11 Quit holscher (Remote closed the connection) 03.51.37 # hey guys I just installed an Ipod wizard theme and now I can't boot into rockbox! 03.52.18 # anyone here? 03.52.39 # hello? 03.52.45 # Segadude, yea but hold on 03.52.53 # k 03.53.27 # not everyone is at their computer and if they are they might not be looking 03.54.02 # yea ok 03.54.18 # did you see my problem above? 03.55.41 # yes but since i do not have an ipod i am not sure 03.56.22 # ok 03.56.43 # should I ask on the fourm then? 03.57.13 # you can stay here 03.57.36 # ok them 03.57.39 # then 03.58.18 # did you do a Menu + Select hard reboot of the iPod? 03.58.25 # Segadude: Well, iPodWizard probably uninstalls the Rockbox bootloader 03.58.46 Join emp [0] (n=tweaker@ip68-230-75-227.ph.ph.cox.net) 03.58.48 # Since it modifies the original firmware partition, it's entirely reasonable that it might remove Rockbox in doing so, depending on how it does it. 03.59.11 Quit EspeonEefi ("さよなら") 03.59.13 # this is the second theme and it didn't do that before. So should I reinstall the bootloader 03.59.15 # ? 03.59.18 Nick emp is now known as _tweak (n=tweaker@ip68-230-75-227.ph.ph.cox.net) 03.59.26 # soap: yes i did 03.59.37 # <_tweak> quick question: are you guys planning on porting over the bootloader to bsd? 03.59.58 # then, Segadude, Llorean's suspicion is correct - it appears you no longer have the Rockbox bootloader. Reinstall it. 04.00.10 # ok thats guys! 04.00.16 # _tweak: The bootloader is what you install onto the player. It wouldn't make sense to port it to BSD... 04.00.16 # thanks sorry 04.00.30 # <_tweak> Llorean, I meant the patch exe 04.01.03 Join tarbo_ [0] (n=me@unaffiliated/tarbo) 04.01.05 # _tweak: That's a vague statement. Please specify what program you're referring to, as there's a variety of ones for different players, as well as the general-purpose RBUtil that works for nearly all of them. 04.01.15 # brb let you know how it goes 04.02.13 # <_tweak> Llorean, for example: ipodpatcher.exe 04.02.37 # _tweak: Have you tried compiling a BSD version. I know it compiles for Linux at least. 04.02.54 # <_tweak> where can I find the source tree to pull it down? 04.03.10 # _tweak: Have you had a look around rockbox.org at all? 04.03.38 # <_tweak> Llorean, I read the manual 04.04.00 # Try visiting the wiki and scrolling to the for developers section. 04.04.08 # <_tweak> thanks 04.04.31 Nick JdGordon|zzz is now known as JdGordon (n=jonno@rockbox/developer/JdGordon) 04.05.12 # kugel: ive got the flu... im not going ot be very helpful today 04.05.42 Join cool_walking_ [0] (n=anthony@203-59-129-195.perm.iinet.net.au) 04.05.53 # JdGordon: the "j" message was an accident 04.06.47 # <_tweak> thanks; I found the subversion tree 04.08.19 Quit tessarakt (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 04.11.11 Join PhoReich [0] (n=48318e7b@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-228526abf8b49e1c) 04.11.51 Quit tarbo (Connection timed out) 04.11.51 # #rockbox-community 04.12.43 Quit PhoReich (Client Quit) 04.15.21 # JdGordon: Let me ask a question about my custom list patch. I'm not sure what to do about option_screen and derivatives (e.g. set_int). While option_screen accepts a parent, set_int does not. And I'm not really keen on passing a parent to set_int, because it's meant to be as easy as possible 04.15.44 Quit Thundercloud (Remote closed the connection) 04.16.30 Join miepchen^schlaf_ [0] (n=miepchen@p54BF6E2A.dip.t-dialin.net) 04.18.01 # So, I've implemented a function (to the screen api) to read the current viewport, which will automatically be passed to option_screen in set_int, so that set_int will use the viewport of the previous screen. While this is very useful IMHO and can be possibly used for other stuff as well, I'm not really sure if it's "right", since a way to read the current vp from the apps code wasn't... 04.18.03 # ...implemented in the first place by linuxstb 04.19.12 # kugel: He's just said he's got the flu. Why not post your concerns to the task, or try again when he's well? 04.22.50 Join tessarakt [0] (n=jens@e180064026.adsl.alicedsl.de) 04.23.13 Quit bd_ (Remote closed the connection) 04.23.59 Join saratoga [0] (n=9803c6dd@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-9fbad4bc1a9f98cc) 04.25.05 Join bd_ [0] (n=foo@2001:470:1f07:61f:0:0:1:2) 04.30.03 Quit avis (Remote closed the connection) 04.30.26 Join jhulst [0] (n=jhulst@unaffiliated/jhulst) 04.32.20 Quit miepchen^schlaf (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 04.36.10 # hey guys I worked! Thanks! 04.36.23 # If you feel well enough to answer, I'll read the logs, or post on the tracker. But don't hurry. I'm very sorry because of your flu and I hope you'll be fine as soon as possible again, good luck! 04.36.36 # that was for JdGordon 04.37.13 Quit kugel ("ChatZilla 0.9.83 [Firefox 3.0.1/2008072820]") 04.37.38 Part Segadude 04.38.36 Part _tweak ("Leaving") 04.43.04 Join EspeonEefi [0] (i=espeonee@CERULEANCITY.MIT.EDU) 04.50.41 Quit jhulst (Remote closed the connection) 04.54.40 Quit amiconn (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 05.02.06 Join webguest43 [0] (n=449c5d82@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-829786a83d4f8054) 05.03.05 # does anyone know how to use mediacoder 0.6.0 to convert videos fo a sansa e270 05.03.44 Join BHSPitLappy [0] (n=BHSPitLa@unaffiliated/bhspitmonkey) 05.04.42 # anybody can help? 05.04.53 # webguest43, did you read the wiki 05.05.14 # yeah...... 05.05.23 Join ToHellWithGA [0] (n=ryan@68-114-198-186.dhcp.clma.mo.charter.com) 05.05.29 # but it keep converting to avi 05.05.41 # do y'all know of a good utility to download album art so that i can convert it to the appropriate .bmp format? 05.06.01 # there is step there that you can follow 05.06.50 # even when the rockbox extension is used it still does it 05.09.04 # how about the other ones on the wiki? 05.09.29 # ToHellWithGA: that isnt really rockbox relates... 05.09.55 # well... the winiff works well but the video quality isnt as great 05.10.33 # webguest43: then tweak the settings a bit...it also depends on your source video 05.11.00 # so the preset extension isnt the best? 05.11.09 # i usually use winff 05.12.13 # i converted the same video using the stock converter and played it on the sansa os and it played alot better so i wanted the same quality when using rockbox 05.13.10 # i tried mediacoder but it keeps converting to avi even when i use the preset rockbox extension 05.13.59 Quit saratoga ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)") 05.17.40 Quit webguest43 ("CGI:IRC") 05.18.35 Quit n9xvt_ ("Clap on! , Clap off! Clap@#&$NO CARRIER") 05.20.43 Quit m0f0x () 05.21.47 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 05.37.47 Quit Horschti ("I got raided by the FBI and all i got is this lousy quit message") 05.43.49 Quit beta2k_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 05.55.11 Join wpyh [0] (n=william@12.168.247.130) 05.56.06 Join nyakzz [0] (n=de7fd32a@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-32116d192fbc96b6) 05.56.40 Join Makuseru [0] (n=max@163.106.40.24.aeneasdsl.com) 06.01.29 Quit nyakzz ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)") 06.01.36 # anyone with a 30GB ipod 5.5g here? 06.09.25 # I've got a 60GB 5G, and no headphones.. 06.13.39 Quit Makuseru (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 06.23.22 Quit perrikwp ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") 06.23.39 Join perrikwp [0] (i=d1a8d351@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-8d9de73fe854cc51) 06.29.24 Join Mathiasdm [0] (n=Mathias@vpnj019.ugent.be) 06.30.09 Quit jfc (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 06.30.23 Quit perrikwp ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") 06.30.31 Join jfc [0] (n=john@dpc691978010.direcpc.com) 06.30.46 Join perrikwp [0] (i=d1a8d351@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-547666d43b44c4b2) 06.32.49 Quit Mathiasdm (Client Quit) 06.43.25 Quit perrikwp ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") 06.43.31 Join perrikwp [0] (i=d1a8d351@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-b144f5913338cd4e) 06.45.05 # hey, I think I've found it! 06.45.29 # the checksum at the end of the dfu files is actually part of the standard dfu suffix 06.47.31 # * wpyh wonders if anyone is still interested in the meizu players... :( 06.50.38 Quit jfc (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 06.53.59 Join jfc [0] (n=john@dpc691978010.direcpc.com) 07.07.36 Part toffe82 07.21.48 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 07.38.08 Quit Nibbl (No route to host) 07.51.26 Join mamoul [0] (n=mamoul@adsl-69-108-93-151.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) 07.51.32 # hey buddies 07.56.27 Join amiconn [50] (n=jens@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 08.01.42 Quit amiconn (" Want to be different? 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08.30.23 # i am usually aways at this time of day 08.30.26 # awake 08.31.49 Join goffa_ [0] (n=goffa@216.220.23.105) 08.31.51 Quit nuonguy ("This computer has gone to sleep") 08.34.37 Nick markun_ is now known as markun (n=markun@bastards.student.ipv6.utwente.nl) 08.38.54 # LinusN: :) 08.39.12 # is heresmetng special I have to do to get a language font and stuff 08.39.23 # I installed the extra fonts pack 08.39.32 # but I don't get any arabic showing on my player 08.39.54 # mamoul: in the browser or in the wps? 08.40.19 # i assume you have selected a font that has araboc characters? 08.40.24 # arabic, even 08.40.33 # well I selected the language 08.40.41 # but it showed blocks 08.40.49 # you also need to select a font that has arabic characters 08.40.54 # oh 08.40.57 # is it in the menu? 08.41.07 # in the theme settings 08.42.49 Join Rob2223 [0] (n=Miranda@p4FDCC7C1.dip.t-dialin.net) 08.42.53 # ok I'm trying different ones 08.42.57 # looks like only Unifont and helvR12 have arabic characters 08.43.05 # ooh 08.43.11 # is there a quick way to see 08.43.19 # http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/UnicodeFonts 08.43.53 # wow that is incredible 08.43.57 # it even goes from right to left lol 08.44.02 # unlike my gnome-terminal >_> 08.44.06 Quit bughunter2 ("bye") 08.44.56 # lol theme options actually says "theem" 08.45.06 # rockbox is like the best thing ever 08.45.27 # mamoul: if you find errors in the translations, please let us know 08.45.44 # Speaking about fonts... 08.45.49 # markun: ping 08.46.34 Quit goffa (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 08.46.48 # LinusN: thanks if I spot anything I will try but since I'm not fluent I can't be sure at the moment 08.47.28 # mamoul: thanks 08.49.20 # unicode is really handy 08.49.31 # I can't imagine life without it 08.53.51 Join capiscuas [0] (n=ca9c0b01@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-175f39966e50d7b9) 08.54.22 Quit Seed ("cu, Andre") 08.54.27 # can anybody tell me the steps to try rockbox in my Creative Zen Micro ? 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10.16.19 # yes 10.16.43 # estimate only,howlong doesit taketobuildalltargets? 10.16.57 # sorry, bad space bar 10.17.12 # depends on your host, but on a reasonable linux < 1 hour 10.17.45 # ah, not so bad then; I'm building it on an eee901 10.20.31 Join Nibbler [0] (n=Nibbler@pD9E1F80D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 10.22.13 Quit pabs (Remote closed the connection) 10.22.17 Join pabs [0] (n=pabs@xor.pablotron.org) 10.26.57 # * B4gder reruns rockboxdev.sh 10.27.59 Quit crwl (Remote closed the connection) 10.28.31 Join crwl [0] (n=crawlie@a91-154-18-71.elisa-laajakaista.fi) 10.31.19 # Oh, it's no biggie. Just trying to guage how how unerpowered this 901 is. 10.32.27 # well, I need to run it to repair my cross-compiler 10.34.57 # done! 10.35.04 # (for m68k) 10.35.49 # hmmph 10.35.55 # :; 10.35.58 # ;) 10.38.11 # * petur figures an 901 will need some time ;) 10.38.35 # yeah 10.39.20 # I did it once, but binutils didn't download. 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12.12.02 # is the rbutil source downloaded competely from an svn checkout? 12.13.01 # B4gder: where/how exactly does the mipsel build fail? 12.13.13 # XavierGr: AFAIK yes 12.14.38 # mcuelenaere: I get some errors from qmake that it can't find the qm lang files so I assumed that I don't have all the files needed, but maybe I have to do something first 12.15.04 # XavierGr: have you read the RBUtilityDevelopment wiki page? 12.15.21 # I believe it requires you to do a certain command to publish the qm files or similar 12.15.33 # qrelease I think 12.16.04 # lupdate and lrelease* 12.16.21 # XavierGr: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/RockboxUtilityDevelopment#How_to_Translate 12.16.22 # ah yes just did that, now it doesn't complain 12.16.26 # yeah i was reading that 12.16.48 # i just thought that the languages already translated had the qm files in the souce already 12.17.50 # I'm not sure about that, perhaps it's a part of the building process.. 12.19.29 Quit Nibbler (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 12.20.14 Quit earHurts (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 12.20.36 Part livindaylight 12.20.53 Join Seed [0] (n=ben@bzq-84-108-232-45.cablep.bezeqint.net) 12.30.04 # kugel: getting the current viewport probably isnt a good idea.... and set_int is supposed to be being deprecated anyway 12.31.05 Quit tarbo_ ("leaving") 12.31.36 Quit fyrestorm (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 12.38.31 Join tarbo [0] (n=me@unaffiliated/tarbo) 12.40.26 Quit tarbo (Client Quit) 12.40.46 Join tarbo [0] (n=me@unaffiliated/tarbo) 12.41.21 Join mrkiko [0] (n=IRCExplo@host105-28-dynamic.20-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) 12.51.29 Join fyrestorm [0] (n=fyre@cpe-68-173-175-218.nyc.res.rr.com) 13.08.06 Join Horscht [0] (n=Horscht@xbmc/user/horscht) 13.15.25 Quit XavierGr (Nick collision from services.) 13.15.34 Join XavierGr [0] (n=xavier@rockbox/staff/XavierGr) 13.15.39 Quit mcuelenaere () 13.17.07 Nick Kopfi|offline is now known as Kopfgeldjaeger (n=nicolai@monitor-mode-enabled-on-mon0.phy0.de) 13.21.56 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 13.24.56 Join LambdaCalculus37 [0] (n=LambdaCa@mb20736d0.tmodns.net) 13.24.57 Nick JdGordon is now known as JdGordon|zzz (n=jonno@rockbox/developer/JdGordon) 13.26.11 Join culture [0] (n=none@cpc1-bele3-0-0-cust658.belf.cable.ntl.com) 13.28.47 Quit XavierGr (Nick collision from services.) 13.28.58 Join XavierGr [0] (n=xavier@rockbox/staff/XavierGr) 13.34.47 Quit Zarggg () 13.47.30 Join vitja [0] (n=vitja@l34.ipu.rssi.ru) 13.50.24 Quit LambdaCalculus37 ("Do quit now, there's a demon around the corner!") 13.51.10 Join PaulJam [0] (n=PaulJam_@p54BCE6CD.dip.t-dialin.net) 13.54.47 Join dabujo [0] (i=xx@p4FDB159E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 13.57.02 # linuxstb, hi 13.58.37 Join beta2k [0] (n=beta@d150-126-240.home.cgocable.net) 14.01.17 Join Acky [0] (n=omgwtfbb@cpc2-stok5-0-0-cust754.bagu.cable.ntl.com) 14.08.51 Join moos [0] (i=moos@81-66-127-205.rev.numericable.fr) 14.11.24 Join Arathis [0] (n=doerk@p508A754C.dip.t-dialin.net) 14.11.57 Join Thundercloud [0] (n=thunderc@84-51-130-71.judith186.adsl.metronet.co.uk) 14.16.38 Quit Acksaw (Connection timed out) 14.17.12 Part vitja ("Ухожу") 14.21.37 Join Ubuntuxer [0] (n=johannes@dslb-084-060-185-051.pools.arcor-ip.net) 14.26.54 Join mib_lcfiqz [0] (i=44a04303@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-c44e582ba4b07ce6) 14.27.03 Nick mib_lcfiqz is now known as LambdaCalculus37 (i=44a04303@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-c44e582ba4b07ce6) 14.27.05 Join DrMoos [0] (i=moos@81-66-127-205.rev.numericable.fr) 14.28.11 Quit moos (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 14.28.13 Nick DrMoos is now known as moos (i=moos@81-66-127-205.rev.numericable.fr) 14.29.02 Join Casainho [0] (n=chatzill@81.193.29.129) 14.31.42 # Bagder: hello :-) -- do you know any possible RB developr that whould like to develop the Rockbox Player, If I offer the developmetn board? 14.31.56 Part Ubuntuxer 14.33.39 Join kugel [0] (n=chatzill@unaffiliated/kugel) 14.36.49 # consider asking that yourself, on for example the -dev mailing list and/or in the forums 14.37.09 # I don't know of any right now 14.42.32 Join n1s [0] (n=nils@rockbox/developer/n1s) 14.43.00 # mcuelenaere: yes, I saw them now... 14.43.10 # I also didn't find a checksum 14.43.27 # but did you try replacing a string and see whether it still works? 14.44.24 Quit EspeonEefi ("さよなら") 14.48.49 Quit jhMikeS (Nick collision from services.) 14.48.51 Join _jhMikeS_ [50] (n=jethead7@rockbox/developer/jhMikeS) 14.49.03 # B4gder: thanks :-) 14.51.25 # B4gder: you know "bluebrother" guy? - I would like to get his contact... I think he may be interested, at least yestarday he says somtething about 14.51.58 Join virtuoso015 [0] (n=vinay@59.96.42.23) 14.53.06 Quit swimmer (Client Quit) 14.53.13 # yes we know him, he's a regular here and in the project 14.54.05 # nice -- where can I find his contact? maybe a PM on forum? 14.54.18 # he joins here basically every day so you'll catch him soon enough, I don't know how often he reads the forums 14.54.30 Join ZincAlloy [0] (n=d9eec860@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-18222ff0972eb8d5) 14.55.24 # okok - with PM normaly we get an e-mail... but okok, I will search him 14.56.01 # I may donate my actual development board and other materials.... - no, I will not desist, simple I can buy another after :-) 14.56.12 # thanks :-) 14.56.32 Quit PaulJam (".") 14.58.12 Join swimmer [0] (n=swimmer@95-50-223.ftth.xms.internl.net) 14.58.32 Quit Casainho ("ChatZilla 0.9.83 [Firefox 3.0.1/2008070208]") 15.02.58 Quit Horscht (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 15.03.27 Join Horscht [0] (n=Horscht@p4FD4FF0A.dip.t-dialin.net) 15.04.38 Join mib_5ydj4h8f [0] (i=cdcdc8ee@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-c1fb7afabc8807dc) 15.04.44 Nick mib_5ydj4h8f is now known as MarcGuay (i=cdcdc8ee@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-c1fb7afabc8807dc) 15.05.30 # Howdy folks. Anyone have an opinion on the definition of a "New Port"? I've always assumed it to mean there was half-functioning code in the tree - not simply a lot of research (re: Sansa v2) 15.06.18 # I think it is "an ongoing effort to make a new target run Rockbox" 15.06.31 # so I think "just" research is enough 15.06.35 # B4gder: So more to do with current activiy than progress? 15.06.39 # yes 15.06.49 # * MarcGuay tips his hat 15.06.51 # Makes sense... 15.07.21 Join advcomp2019_ [0] (n=advcomp2@unaffiliated/advcomp2019) 15.08.18 Quit advcomp2019 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 15.09.03 Join fragilematter [0] (n=barbu_do@92.82.98.58) 15.10.48 Quit Seed ("cu, Andre") 15.11.20 # progress is very hard to judge as there can go long time with seemingly no progress and then all of a sudden you manage to knit a pattern from all the loose ends 15.11.58 # and with several of the modern targets, the research is a lot of rather tedious and hard work 15.12.01 # B4gder: Would the Gigabeat S port be a good example of that? 15.12.54 # I think so, even if I can't say I've followed the beast closely myself 15.14.49 Join mazling [0] (i=largeear@host86-143-12-152.range86-143.btcentralplus.com) 15.18.27 Quit virtuoso015 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 15.19.55 Join virtuoso015 [0] (n=vinay@59.96.37.180) 15.21.58 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 15.24.34 Quit Arathis ("Bye, bye") 15.24.40 # so cowon has revealed a what dapreview claims to be a D2 successor, called S9 15.24.58 # http://www.dapreview.net/news.php?item.4316.5 15.25.57 # dual core 500MHz and 40 hours battery life ??? 15.26.02 # And according to the article, it's also a successor to the X5. 15.26.14 # Guess that means we won't be seeing the iAudio X7 any time soon. 15.26.28 # no mention of storage sizes 15.27.07 # I find it funny that they mention the 500mhz dual core in the marketing 15.27.23 # I mean, who really cares about that? 15.28.13 # but it makes me curious what cpu it is 15.28.44 # * LambdaCalculus37 wonders too 15.30.10 # "Dynamic Dictionary" must be a killer feature ;-P 15.30.15 # I saw that new target too, I wonder why they don't say its capacity 15.30.36 # "Dynamic Dictionary"? Does that mean it makes up a definition if it can't find one? 15.30.39 # if it is a spacious one it would be a very good one me things 15.30.47 # \thinks too 15.37.59 Nick advcomp2019_ is now known as advcomp2019 (n=advcomp2@unaffiliated/advcomp2019) 15.45.27 Quit virtuoso015 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 15.57.27 Quit LambdaCalculus37 ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") 16.03.28 Join virtuoso015 [0] (n=vinay@59.92.191.11) 16.05.05 Part TMM ("Ex-Chat") 16.12.55 Quit advcomp2019 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 16.13.17 Join advcomp2019 [0] (n=advcomp2@unaffiliated/advcomp2019) 16.30.16 Quit virtuoso015 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 16.31.55 Join virtuoso015 [0] (n=vinay@59.96.34.186) 16.37.51 # linuxstb: Hey. Is there any specific reason why you didn't implement a way to read the current viewport by e.g. apps/ code? 16.40.35 # Slasheri: ping 16.43.57 Part fragilematter 16.44.30 Join stripwax [0] (n=Miranda@87-194-34-169.bethere.co.uk) 16.48.24 Join LambdaCalculus37 [0] (i=44a04303@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-c36231409cf01779) 16.52.20 # kugel: hello! 16.55.09 Part LinusN 16.55.50 Join saratoga [0] (n=9803c6dd@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-489ef1207a1de5a8) 16.58.25 # Slasheri: ahh, I didn't expect you to answer 16.58.46 # I tried to reach you several times the last weeks. Anyway, I've got a question about the sort tag patch 17.00.01 # kugel: sorry, I have just had too much other work to do.. 17.00.02 # it seems to cause database instabilities, like songs disappear randomly from the database without doing anything. I don't know why. It seems to happen no matter if the sort tags are actually used or not 17.00.48 # kugel: interesting, i will check the patch if i can see something causing that 17.00.58 # Slasheri: http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/7287 17.02.20 # Slasheri: I *guess* it has something to do with memory. My guess is that I've added 4 tags to the tagcache (it says committing 1/13 etc at database building), but I haven't modified memory allocation or the like 17.03.16 # kugel: you shouldn't need to modify allocations as long as those tags are properly defined. maybe that exposes some other problem inside the tagcache 17.03.42 Join nuonguy [0] (n=john@c-71-198-1-139.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) 17.04.06 # Slasheri: Ah ok. Could it also have something to do with "Load to RAM"? I always have this enabled, but I didn't try without 17.04.38 # if possible, please try also without that 17.04.48 # what kind of instabilities did it cause? 17.05.16 Quit mazling ("Inde da'covale misain ye; Caballien misain ye!") 17.08.48 # a) songs disappeard from the database. The database initialized properly, but as the time passes, songs dissappear. When a album had 20 songs, it had only 17 after some days, and they won't come in until reinitialization b) songs disappear while browsing the database, but reappear after a reboot c) the database needs to reinitialized noticeably more often due to "database not ready" 17.08.59 # generally, the database is rendered useless 17.10.30 # interesting.. so something is corrupting the db 17.10.50 # it could help to run the code through simulator to see all db error messages 17.11.09 # at a quick look, i don't see any problems with the patch 17.11.34 # when I made the patch, the sim didn't show errors. Although, I've tested it with way less music files 17.12.22 # i could also try loading the db from the player to the simulator to see what kind of corruption is inside the db 17.12.25 # *you 17.12.27 # is the plan to branch the SVN code at the end of the feature freeze, or does the freeze end right as the release comes out? 17.13.04 # saratoga: I guess it depends on the plans for 3.1 17.13.11 Join bughunter2 [0] (n=j@77.164.66.126) 17.13.28 # saratoga: we've discussed branching at the end of the freeze 17.13.39 # and spend a little time cleaning up things in the branch for the release 17.13.41 # If 3.1 will only be a bug fix version, the freeze might stay for a little longer 17.13.51 # or that ;) 17.14.19 # Slasheri: any idea what could cause FS#9315 ? 17.15.33 # n1s: at first i would guess the metadata parser failing on a file 17.16.37 # ok, i'll ask him to try to figure it out 17.16.43 Quit MarcGuay ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") 17.17.18 # which file makes it happen if that's the case that is 17.22.01 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 17.22.07 Join toffe82 [0] (n=chatzill@h-74-0-180-178.snvacaid.covad.net) 17.23.03 Join Ubuntuxer [0] (n=johannes@dslb-088-078-117-160.pools.arcor-ip.net) 17.32.34 Part Ubuntuxer 17.43.01 Quit einhirn ("Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org") 17.44.35 Join Deosil [0] (n=asdf@c-67-188-97-125.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) 17.44.46 # Hello 17.44.54 Part B4gder 17.45.06 # I have a quick question if you guys don't mind 17.45.24 # Deosil, we can not read minds 17.45.39 # I have an Ipod color w/rockbox installed, want to know if i can tell it to turn the display OFF when in hold mode, rather than just turning the backlight off 17.45.44 # To save batteries 17.46.38 # The manual didn't give an option to do that 17.46.53 # So I'm guessing it is not possible 17.47.01 # Welp? 17.47.16 Quit moos ("Rockbox rules the DAP world") 17.48.29 Quit nplus (Remote closed the connection) 17.48.42 # anybody out there? 17.49.33 # Thanks for the help guys! 17.49.38 Part Deosil 17.49.51 # wow, that was quick 17.52.09 Join EspeonEefi [0] (n=espeonee@18.62.30.194) 17.54.55 Join ELSock [0] (n=elsock@66-189-124-23.dhcp.oxfr.ma.charter.com) 17.54.57 Quit n1s () 17.55.06 # hello 17.56.23 # Slasheri: I've noticed another instability. Sometimes, the database browser doesn't show the entries properly. E.g. instead of