--- Log for 03.09.108 Server: brown.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 1 day and 18 hours ago 00.00.21 # * gevaerts gets one google hit on that quoted bit :) 00.00.41 # :) 00.01.07 Nick Kopfi|offline is now known as Kopfgeldjaeger (n=nicolai@monitor-mode-enabled-on-mon0.phy0.de) 00.01.10 # anyway, time for me to get some sleep 00.01.24 # I hope I can stay away from my Meizu tomorrow, but who knows 00.01.36 # * gevaerts hopes not :) 00.01.52 # I really should finish my studies this year 00.02.27 # and this doesn't help either ;) http://130.89.160.166/chinese/ 00.02.34 # Indeed. take care about those first 00.02.48 Join Zarggg [0] (n=z@65-78-69-194.c3-0.eas-ubr6.atw-eas.pa.cable.rcn.com) 00.03.35 Quit reacocard (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00.03.44 # Hmm guys, might i ask wether #7814 has been applied to rockbox yet? 00.04.44 # if its still open, its not applied 00.04.57 # okay, so I'll have to patch it again 00.06.07 Nick Kopfgeldjaeger is now known as Kopfi|offline (n=nicolai@monitor-mode-enabled-on-mon0.phy0.de) 00.06.08 Nick Kopfi|offline is now known as Kopfgeldjaeger (n=nicolai@monitor-mode-enabled-on-mon0.phy0.de) 00.06.11 Join reacocard [0] (n=reacocar@WL-311.CINE.HMC.Edu) 00.06.21 Join EspeonEefi [0] (i=espeonee@EGG-FIVE-HUNDRED.MIT.EDU) 00.06.59 Quit perrikwp|work ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") 00.07.00 # Font renaimng is looking good in general, but it'll require fixing themes as well as custom .cfg files 00.07.18 # * amiconn just tried it on Ondio (yes, up to 32-Terminus) 00.07.36 # Sounds like a good font to end with :) 00.08.10 # Good night guys, thanks for rockbox :) 00.08.40 Quit Reemo ("Verlassend") 00.08.52 # * amiconn will now test on a considerably larger screen (H300) before commit 00.09.05 Quit avis (Remote closed the connection) 00.09.16 # gevaerts: That's the largest font in svn atm 00.10.22 # How many lines of it can you get in the Ondio? 00.10.30 # * gevaerts guesses about one and a half 00.11.07 # One with the statusbar enabled, two with the status bar disabled 00.11.35 Quit ender` (" Read what I mean, not what I write.") 00.18.48 # With my gigabeat S, I have rockbox installed, but if I ever shut down, I have to do sendfirm again. Any suggestions? 00.20.12 # conley_: your battery is working or are you with the power adapter 00.21.06 # either way 00.21.11 # It does the same thing 00.21.24 # Font stuff is looking good on H300 as well 00.21.28 # (yes my battery is working, but I've tried it with the battery switch turned off) 00.23.02 Join pabs [0] (n=pabs@xor.pablotron.org) 00.24.52 Quit Schmogel (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 00.26.07 Quit bughunter2 ("bye") 00.28.32 Join avis [0] (n=ident@pdpc/supporter/student/avis) 00.30.06 Quit mf0102 ("Ex-Chat") 00.30.52 # conley_: when you shut down, it goes to the screen with the yello triangle 00.31.25 # yea 00.33.15 Quit desowin ("KVIrc 4.0.0 Insomnia http://www.kvirc.net/") 00.33.56 # conley_: with the OF you don't have any problem ? 00.34.08 Quit jhulst ("Konversation terminated!") 00.38.34 Quit mcuelenaere ("Zzzzzz") 00.45.33 Join krazykit [0] (n=kkit@host-69-145-35-234.static.bresnan.net) 00.47.03 Quit Kopfgeldjaeger (SendQ exceeded) 00.48.15 Join Kopfgeldjaeger [0] (n=nicolai@monitor-mode-enabled-on-mon0.phy0.de) 00.50.53 # no, I do then too 00.51.09 # sorry I have to go, but I'll be here if anyone says anything 00.55.05 # * amiconn spotted a bug in his font naming 00.55.11 # ...or not 01.01.18 Join Seed [0] (n=ben@bzq-84-108-232-45.cablep.bezeqint.net) 01.02.35 Quit EspeonEefi (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 01.03.34 Quit joshin ("be back") 01.03.39 Join jhulst [0] (n=jhulst@unaffiliated/jhulst) 01.05.32 Quit reacocard (".") 01.05.59 Quit herrwaldo ("Konversation terminated!") 01.06.46 Quit ZincAlloy ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 01.11.40 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 01.25.07 Join Thundercloud [0] (n=thunderc@84-51-130-71.judith186.adsl.metronet.co.uk) 01.25.27 Join Lambdumb [0] (n=Lambda@12-202-140-90.client.mchsi.com) 01.25.49 # * amiconn pings rasher for a matrix update 01.26.42 # amiconn: Running already 01.27.07 # amiconn: and done 01.27.49 # Doesn't include the latest commit... 01.28.25 Quit XavierGr () 01.29.14 # It doesn't? 01.29.34 # Ah, must've happened right after 01.30.28 # * amiconn commited before pinging you 01.30.38 Quit einhirn (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 01.31.15 Join reacocard [0] (n=reacocar@WL-311.CINE.HMC.Edu) 01.32.27 # I had already started at that point, I think 01.36.41 Join massive_H [0] (n=massiveH@ool-44c48a1e.dyn.optonline.net) 01.36.55 Quit Lambduh (Connection timed out) 01.37.41 # amiconn: some of the fonts seem to have been set executable 01.37.52 # eugh 01.38.57 Quit massiveH (Nick collision from services.) 01.38.59 Nick massive_H is now known as massiveH (n=massiveH@ool-44c48a1e.dyn.optonline.net) 01.45.19 Join safetydan [0] (n=evertond@rockbox/developer/safetydan) 01.45.41 Nick fxb is now known as fxb__ (n=felixbru@h1252615.stratoserver.net) 01.47.23 Nick topher is now known as topher|away (n=topher@epiar/founder/topher) 01.47.50 Join Hillshum [0] (n=chatzill@75-165-234-141.slkc.qwest.net) 01.48.01 Quit amiconn (" reb...") 01.49.17 # what hardware is needed for JTAG? 01.50.38 Join EspeonEefi [0] (n=espeonee@18.62.30.75) 01.52.24 Join Sundial [0] (n=Sundial@unaffiliated/sundial) 01.52.24 # saratoga: I think I've tested the SPC codec with test_codec and it worked. It does nothing special and should manage its own internal stuff. 01.53.34 Join amiconn [50] (n=jens@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 01.56.11 # what are the odds that the ongoing font shakeup will completely foul up themes like the WPS changes did? 01.57.25 # binaryhermit: about 100%, but it's an even easier thing to fix 01.57.53 Part toffe82 01.57.57 # still, I question doing it during a feature freeze 01.58.14 # unless I underestimate the problems leaving it as it is would cause 01.58.35 # binaryhermit: This was discussed at length yesterday 01.59.04 # and if I don't like it, I can fork, right? 01.59.12 # * binaryhermit goes back to read the log 01.59.20 Join fdinel [0] (n=Miranda@modemcable204.232-203-24.mc.videotron.ca) 01.59.35 # Well, a bunch of people who usually make smart decisions decided this was smarter 02.00.24 # New version numbers are the best time to do font shakeups like this. Then you can say "All themes must be updated to work with 3.0" rather than "all themes from sometime around the middle of Month X are unlikely to work" 02.00.30 # * amiconn might even try to fix the themes in the wiki, but not today 02.00.32 # Er, any sort of shakeup, font or otherwise 02.00.54 # shrug 02.00.56 # jhMikeS: I can't get it to work with mp3 when using 2 cores, although playback has been rock solid for the last few days 02.01.09 # so i was wondering if there were any special considerations 02.01.29 # anyone know where rbutil pulls the font info from? 02.01.36 # binaryhermit: Well, look at it this way: Each development period leads toward a version number. So either the font shakeup happens in 3.0, or in 3.1. Does it make a difference which one it happens in? 02.01.37 # s/font/theme/ 02.03.53 # maybe someone (with the rights) could start a thread in the announcement forums? 02.04.43 # pixelma: You can't make announcements? 02.05.19 # hmm... haven't tried but I thought only developers, moderators and admins could 02.05.42 # Hrm 02.06.00 # Well, now experts can too. They really ought to be able to, anyway. 02.06.37 # * Llorean isn't sure what such a thread would exactly be about yet anyway. 02.06.46 # heh... and now I need to? I'm not much af a thread starter 02.07.04 Join joshin [0] (n=joshin@VDSL-130-13-185-112.PHNX.QWEST.NET) 02.07.09 # What could be making Twiki look like this? http://cid-8b808dcb12a4af96.skydrive.live.com/self.aspx/Public/firefox%20screenshot.JPG 02.07.16 # saratoga: you seemed to incoporate a non-blocking, thus non-coresleeping approach in the last patch I saw. SPC uses the semaphores to allow blocking. 02.08.35 # Hillshum, i don't see that problem. 02.09.01 # pixelma: Is the font cleanup finished yet? 02.09.11 # Thanks that the font cleanup happened before 3.0 02.09.18 # krazykit: notice the color/readability of the links 02.10.09 # are you sure that's not your firefox/windows theme or something? because that same page looks correct to me: blue links and completely readable. 02.10.12 # Llorean: I'm not sure myself, amiconn should know better but I think a great deal is done 02.10.20 # jhMikeS: i tried using semaphores but couldn't figure out how to do it without getting invalid instruction errors 02.10.29 # Yes it is done now 02.10.37 # what is the difference between using the built in semapores and using my homemade ones + yeild? 02.10.41 # Do we have a list of oldname -> newname? 02.10.57 # (Well, the part that involves svn. Themes in the wiki still need fixing 02.11.02 # Llorean: fonts/README 02.11.14 # krazykit: did you see that screenshot? I see light colored links that i can barely read. 02.11.16 # Llorean: http://svn.rockbox.org/viewvc.cgi/trunk/fonts/README 02.11.33 # saratoga: that seems a strange symptom from that unless cache handling was the culprit in something 02.11.48 # amiconn: nice job on the cleanup 02.12.12 # krazykit: Try this link: http://ti0ada.blu.livefilestore.com/y1pD4tcvoPeAVLwgcGgwgDkM9RD3pgxb0kZKXCrMv_tc-hhek3qN71NERLrbs_SP2BQtFGGPcQsRAU/firefox%20screenshot.JPG 02.12.45 # jhMikeS: so if I want to use test_codec I should try and use semaphores? 02.13.27 # Hillshum, yes, i saw the screenshot. i browsed to the very same page and it looks /just fine/ 02.13.27 # saratoga: shouldn't matter but running the codec in that environment instead could change timings of threads and so evidence a race condition 02.14.01 # Are you planning to remove the themes in the WpsGalleries/block them from being downloaded until they're updated? 02.14.06 # Hillshum, krazykit: It looks like the problem is that www.rockbox.org sets no styles for link colours, so you'll get whatever is set in the browser 02.14.19 # Right. I am saying, when I go to the page, I can't read the links. 02.14.34 # I fear users will try to re- and redownload themes again and again, in the hope this fixes the themes 02.14.55 # All other links look normal. 02.15.22 # Hillshum: Using any sort of crazy stuff such as greasemonkey/platypus or other stuff that might meddle with pages before rendering? 02.16.06 # well, and it'll probably "fix" them most of the time, since most include their fonts 02.16.23 # rasher: I installed ghostfox but then removed it ( following the documentation) and it left RB like that. 02.16.42 Quit nplus (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 02.16.46 # jhMikeS: I've probably listened to 10 hours of music without ever having a single glitch or free, but test_codec freezes every single time 02.16.50 # i don't think its a race condition 02.17.27 # Hillshum: Options->Settings->Content->Colors (or sth like this, my Firefox is in German) 02.17.34 # else i would expect it to occur at time depending on boost/buffering during playback 02.18.11 # But imo http://www.rockbox.org/style.css should set link colours 02.18.45 # amiconn: would you mind adding some nedore versions too (8 and 9 is a bit small), if it's possible? I like that font 02.18.56 # amiconn: Thanks. I thought I had looked over that Settings box without any luck. 02.18.58 # saratoga: say again, SPC does work but the mpa codec doesn't? 02.19.19 Quit culture (Connection timed out) 02.19.23 # kugel: That would require creating them. Helvetica fonts are mcreated already 02.19.35 # ah ok 02.27.21 Join picard_pwns_kirk [0] (n=ppk@unaffiliated/ppklaptop/x-00001) 02.27.35 # I can't boot my iPod, does anyone have any suggestions? 02.31.01 Quit tvelocity[a] (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 02.31.03 # did you try to reset it? 02.31.14 # yeah 02.31.27 # it hangs on the apple logo screen 02.31.44 # * picard_pwns_kirk may have improperly flashed the firmware 02.32.13 # s/firmware/bootloader/ 02.33.43 Quit jhulst (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 02.34.34 Join JdGordon [0] (n=jonno@c220-237-62-106.smelb2.vic.optusnet.com.au) 02.34.48 # the device doesn't show up on an lsusb 02.35.22 Join Thundercloud_ [0] (n=thunderc@84-51-130-71.judith186.adsl.metronet.co.uk) 02.36.10 # jhMikeS: just tested, and SPC does not work with test_codec 02.36.22 # rasher: There is a problem with 13-Fixed looking the same as 13-Fixed-SemiCond. The bold versions don't look the same. This problem seems to be an older one though... 02.36.23 # i thought I remembered seeing benchmarks, so I just assumed it did 02.38.23 # saratoga: I'll have to look at that or at least suggest that ci isn't properly initialized for dual core? 02.39.31 Part picard_pwns_kirk 02.41.12 # jhMikeS: for what its worth, it just freezes forever while loading for both codecs 02.41.18 Join toffe82 [0] (n=chatzill@adsl-70-235-226-104.dsl.frs2ca.sbcglobal.net) 02.43.06 Join jhulst [0] (n=jhulst@unaffiliated/jhulst) 02.45.16 # saratoga: init doesn't seem to be it. could be cache. i don't recall for sure if I put any code in there that assumes the codec thread somehow. :\ 02.46.21 # jhMikeS: I made a patch that adds the same hopping stuff as for plugins to the codec loader 02.46.39 # Doesn't help dualcore mpa in test_codec 02.48.06 # saratoga: the thread functions in the ci structure aren't initialized. I think that's probably why. 02.48.41 # jhMikeS: how difficult would that be to fix? 02.49.18 # just add inits for the stuff in the #if NUM_CORES block as in codec.c 02.49.47 # oh i see, quite trival 02.50.16 # its #if NUM_CORES > 1? 02.50.28 # yes 02.50.28 Quit Thundercloud (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 02.50.48 # as in codecs.c line 99 02.51.08 Quit reacocard (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 02.55.14 Join BHSPitLappy [0] (n=BHSPitLa@unaffiliated/bhspitmonkey) 02.57.09 # jhMikeS: is it ok if I add thread_thaw and some of the others to the plugin interface? 02.58.01 # I guess there's no choice since it borrows from the plugin interface :) 02.58.46 # should i ask before commiting this? seems pretty harmless 02.59.55 # also why are the threading functions only included on multiprocessor systems 03.00.05 # couldn't they be useful on single processor systems too 03.00.11 # which? for codecs? 03.00.44 # they're only used on MP for codecs so far 03.01.54 # should i do the same for plugins? 03.02.41 Quit kugel (Remote closed the connection) 03.02.43 # plugins use threading already but not all that SPC does 03.03.13 Quit dabujo ("( www.nnscript.com :: NoNameScript 4.2 :: www.regroup-esports.com )") 03.03.24 # i see the plugin thread functions are not MP only 03.04.35 Join otzengulasch [0] (n=galantin@p54A961B8.dip.t-dialin.net) 03.04.46 # no, since mpegplayer, battery bench and test_codec use them. probably some others. 03.05.34 # that fixed it 03.05.40 # will commit once i've had some time to look over it 03.06.25 # 370% real time decoding for 128k MP3 03.08.38 # the blocking stuff should be put in so it doesn't use 100% process load all the time. both cores will be doing a fair bit of waiting for the other. 03.09.07 # jhMikeS: for now I just yeild, but I guess that just busy waits then? 03.09.17 # how do I make the core actually idle? 03.10.48 # sleep (but this fixes the delays), queue_wait, semaphore_wait, mutex_wait, etc. any non-signalled object will block and if no other thread is ready to run, the core waits for an interrupt or a singal 03.11.44 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 03.12.59 # ah so basically i need a smarter signaling method 03.13.03 # thanks for the help 03.13.07 Quit moos (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 03.13.24 Quit saratoga ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 03.17.42 Join reacocard [0] (n=reacocar@WL-311.CINE.HMC.Edu) 03.18.40 Join danovotny [0] (n=0cd28afe@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-968134a53d6ac4e1) 03.18.50 # hello - anyone home/ 03.23.28 # danovotny, yes 03.31.33 # i think i figuered it out 03.33.20 Quit fdinel ("Miranda IM! 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Then why does the font pack still contain the old ones? 10.59.50 # "Sep 3 06:39" 11.00.40 # http://download.rockbox.org/daily/fonts/rockbox-fonts.zip gives me the old ones 11.01.49 # but be a sync problem 11.02.01 # the zip on build server has the new fonts 11.02.23 # Gah. Those mirrors are always causing confusion :( 11.04.46 # * amiconn thinks that a mirror that isn't kept in sync all the time is worse than no mirror at all 11.05.50 # I'm not so sure about that 11.06.22 # but I agree a sync problem is annoying 11.06.44 # svn cp svn://svn.rockbox.org/rockbox/trunk svn://svn.rockbox.org/rockbox/branches/v3_0 11.06.50 # good? 11.07.07 Quit daurn (Remote closed the connection) 11.08.44 # Committed revision 18392. 11.09.12 # open the gates, let the flood come 11.10.36 # "svn co svn://svn.rockbox.org/rockbox/branches/v3_0 rockbox-3.0" checks out the release branch 11.11.01 # wooo 11.11.03 Quit daurnimator (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 11.11.50 Join culture [0] (n=none@cpc1-bele3-0-0-cust658.belf.cable.ntl.com) 11.11.56 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 11.12.52 Quit Lambduh ("Leaving") 11.12.59 # excellent 11.13.26 # B4gder: So what is the plan now? Go through that branch for remaining (if any) stopper bugs then release? 11.13.35 # yes 11.13.42 # I don't think we have any stoppers atm 11.13.51 # No, I didn't think so 11.14.40 # disable some things? What about the does-not-always-reboot-on USB-insert for PP targets? 11.14.57 # I say we just let it sit a couple days, just to see if any of our users report anything major in the next couple of days that doesn't seem to be introduced post-branch, but release the freeze. 11.15.15 # I'll make it say 3.0 in the build 11.15.21 # as version I mean 11.17.02 # So where should manual commits go now? 11.17.04 # 3.0-RC1 for now 11.17.24 # you think we should do rc ones? 11.17.27 # or just RC, since it's not versioned 11.17.36 # No, just a single, moving one 11.18.01 # It could be dangerous to have lots of versions, all called "3.0"... 11.18.04 Join jeffdameth1 [0] (n=jeff@dyndsl-091-096-055-144.ewe-ip-backbone.de) 11.18.27 # s/dangerous/a bit confusing/ 11.18.29 # "3.0 RC (rX)" ? 11.18.45 # woot 11.18.56 Join scotty_007 [0] (n=scotty@i577B6070.versanet.de) 11.19.13 # linuxstb: manual fixes should probably go in both trunk and the branch 11.19.17 # linuxstb: that's what I was thinking 11.19.23 # wait a moment, there are some unchanged font names 11.19.32 # * BigBambi waits 11.19.42 # So does that mean people have to commit twice? 11.19.47 # opened FS#9358 with patch 11.20.05 # linuxstb: yes 11.20.08 # linuxstb: yes, I think so 11.20.18 # to punish them for not having committed before :-P 11.20.29 Quit mazling (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 11.20.38 # scotty_007: Oops 11.20.44 # OK, so basically the intention is that will now be almost no commits to the branch? 11.21.04 # only branch-specific commits I'd say 11.21.13 # yes 11.21.25 # Ideally there should be none at all unless an honest showstopper crops up, things that are specific to the 3.0 process, or mistakes like that font naming thing he just pointed out. 11.21.27 # there's still a hang bug around, and i'm starting to think it's mp3 related 11.21.39 # ok, now the version string says like normal but with an added "3.0 RC" string 11.21.42 # hard to repro, though 11.21.49 # scotty_007: Are you sure you haven't just got an old font zip from a non-updated mirror? They look OK in SVN to me: http://svn.rockbox.org/viewvc.cgi/trunk/fonts/?pathrev=18391 11.21.52 # Do we need to call it 3.0.0 - to allow minor updates? 11.22.01 # I think 3.0 is fine. 11.22.13 # If we need 3.0.1, it doesn't mean we needed 3.0.0 first. :) 11.22.24 # I agree 11.22.41 # * linuxstb grumbles at the lack of logic ;) 11.23.06 # Well, hopefully nothing major enough to require 3.0.1 in the next three months will crop up, and then we can just do 3.1 like we did this one. 11.23.15 # * Nico_P sees exciting times ahead :) 11.23.19 # BigBambi: patch file says Revision 18391 11.23.40 # BigBambi: His issue is in the source itself 11.23.44 Quit cbr|w (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 11.23.54 # BigBambi: The fonts are properly named, but we hardcoded their old names into the source in a couple places, it seems. 11.24.04 # Llorean, scotty_007: Sorry, just noticed that 11.24.14 # Must read more carefully next time 11.25.25 # Llorean: I checked the whole source for old font names, there shouldn't be more 11.25.37 # that's the part which is responsible to include the fonts used in the default theme in a normal build zip, quite important I think 11.25.55 # if I remember correctly 11.26.08 # so the known bugs in 3.0 will be those in http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/index.php?tasks=&project=1&due=3 ? 11.27.31 # Nico_P: Mostly, yes. That any any of the major "well, that feature isn't done yet" style issues like USB rebooting, etc. 11.29.11 Join Lambduh [0] (n=Lambda@12-203-112-233.client.mchsi.com) 11.29.24 Join cbr|w [0] (n=cbr@leased-line-60-126.telecom.by) 11.33.06 Quit jeffdameth (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 11.34.05 # B4gder: the 3.0 tag should probably be called 3.0.0 just in case we release 3.0.1 and more 11.36.05 # we can always rename it later or just create a 3.0.1 later or just release 3.0.1 from the 3.0 branch 11.36.19 Quit Lambduh ("Leaving") 11.37.50 # yes, 3.0.1 would come from the 3.0 branch. I was thinking about the tag 11.38.05 # there's no tag yet, only the branch 11.38.23 # we should tag it at the exact release moment 11.38.54 Join mazling [0] (i=largeear@host86-147-122-183.range86-147.btcentralplus.com) 11.38.56 # but sure, the tag could be called 3.0.0 I don't think the tag name is terribly important 11.39.57 # indeed it's not really 11.40.18 # * Nico_P should get back to more serious things 11.40.24 # FS#9358 should be considered before the release 11.40.54 # simple thing ;) 11.43.09 # scotty_007: Yup, certainly needs fixing 11.43.43 # amiconn: Check out FS#9358 11.44.46 Join Lambduh [0] (n=Lambda@12-203-112-233.client.mchsi.com) 11.45.34 # rasher: as said above, i grepped the whole source tree for old font names. no more found 11.45.48 Quit Nico_P ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") 11.48.17 # Ah, yes. 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What happens or what doesn't - when you do what, etc? 13.27.03 # markun: What references have you found for the Nano and DFU mode? Googling, I can only find references to the touch and iphone having that mode. 13.27.27 # linuxstb: look up in the logs 13.27.28 # pixelma: sorry to be so unclear :-/\ 13.27.43 # linuxstb: http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?messageID=5504335 13.28.05 # * linuxstb also found one - http://forums.ipodhacks.com/showthread.php?t=13301 13.28.21 Join Mathiasdm [0] (n=Mathias@78-22-6-189.access.telenet.be) 13.28.32 # pixelma: I plug in the USB connector and rockbox switches to USB charging mode but if I unplug the connector after charging for 1 night I see that the battery level went from 99% to 87% 13.28.38 # not what you expect ... 13.28.56 # linuxstb: shouldn't we add these links to a wiki or so? 13.29.04 # pixelma: I plugged the connector in while Rockbox was already running ... 13.29.12 # oops it looks like I accidentally make 2 people brick their e200v2 13.29.13 # pixelma: more information? 13.30.09 # linuxstb: btw, I've also seen references to the DFU mode on the iriver T series, but nobody has figured out how to trigger it either. 13.30.24 # funman: congrats! 13.30.48 # my deal with SanDisk finally paid ! 13.31.05 # hehe :) 13.33.32 Join tvelocity [0] (n=tony@195.167.65.108) 13.36.22 # hey, guys.... have created an extension to the e200tool 13.36.38 # wondering if it would be a valuable addition to the 13.36.42 # e200unbrick page 13.36.52 # the problem i had is described here 13.37.13 # http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=18197.0 13.37.33 # and the solution is described here 13.37.35 # http://www.anythingbutipod.com/forum/showthread.php?t=33823 13.37.49 # would like to have some feedback on this... 13.37.53 # swimmer: switch to USB charging mode? Anyways, I think charging in Rockbox doesn't work completely yet on Ipods and it would only charge slowly, if the disk was spinning or backlight on it could be draining more than charging 13.38.01 Join daurnimator [0] (i=daurn@unaffiliated/daurnimator) 13.42.08 Join kugel [0] (n=chatzill@unaffiliated/kugel) 13.44.03 # I think you're currently better off charging in the original firmware 13.45.39 Join J [0] (n=john@cpc2-mfld9-0-0-cust297.nott.cable.ntl.com) 13.46.08 Nick J is now known as Guest87135 (n=john@cpc2-mfld9-0-0-cust297.nott.cable.ntl.com) 13.46.15 Nick Guest87135 is now known as morrijr (n=john@cpc2-mfld9-0-0-cust297.nott.cable.ntl.com) 13.46.49 Part morrijr 13.47.51 Join funman_ [0] (n=tg@ip237-41-209-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl) 13.49.16 Join ruskie [0] (i=ruskie@sourcemage/mage/ruskie) 13.49.47 # lo 13.49.48 Quit soopurman (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 13.50.05 # anyone working on ipod shuffle 2g support in rockbox? 13.50.20 Quit sucitrams ("Verlassend") 13.50.30 # ruskie: funny that you should ask :) 13.50.38 # we just talked about it 13.50.50 # my brain is all over the place today... 13.50.55 # so what was the verdict? 13.51.02 # we need to find out how to enter DFU mode on the Shuffle, can you help us search for it? 13.51.12 # what's DFU mode? 13.51.24 # markun: don't we also need a compiler ? 13.51.25 Quit Nico_P ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") 13.51.26 # I can help out to a point of just before breaking anything... 13.52.00 # ahh device firmware upgrade mode 13.52.06 # ruskie: it's a special debug more. Windows (if you're using that) should tell you "Windows needs to install driver software for your USB DFU Device." when you have managed to enter this mode. 13.52.33 # ruskie: do you know anything about it? 13.52.36 # markun: I thought you talked about the Nano? Are the 2nd gen Shuffles similar? 13.52.38 # GodEater: just normal ARM compiler 13.52.43 # pixelma: yes, they are 13.52.44 # for the shuffle ?! 13.52.49 # wow - since when? 13.53.14 # since the 2nd gen they use an ARM SoC 13.53.26 # you learn something new every day 13.53.30 # GodEater: I think you would need one for the 1st gen Shuffles, don't know anything about 2nd gen 13.53.38 # porting to a screenless device sounds like fun :) 13.53.54 # * GodEater would disagree ;) 13.54.02 # http://www.ifixit.com/Guide/iPod/iPod-Shuffle-2nd-Generation/Disassembly/100/1/ <-- can see all the hardware here 13.55.01 # http://accessories.ifrogz.com/278/in-recovery-mode-on-your-shuffle-help-is-here/ <-- hmm iPod reset utility... 13.55.10 # * GodEater knows how to do DFU mode on the iphone, and wonders if it's something similar on the shuffle / nano 13.55.13 # pixelma: ok thanks for the info - I was just wondering since it used to work quite ok ... 13.55.32 # ok i have a question 13.55.56 # ruskie: yes, but how can we trigger the recovery mode.. 13.56.13 # markun, I'll search for it ;) 13.56.16 # thanks 13.56.21 # GodEater: could indeed be, DFU seems to be a generic thing 13.56.21 # I tend to be persistent 13.56.30 # D2 has lcd screen LTV250QV-F0B, how important is that last part, they sell only F01 and F02, will that screen work on D2? 13.56.53 # Jorsik: ask cowon! :-/ 13.57.01 # oh come on 13.57.06 # how could we know? 13.57.15 # well you are programmers:P 13.57.16 # Jorsik: we really don't know what the differences are 13.57.25 # but not hardware manufacturers :) 13.57.32 # ok 13.57.44 # swimmer: really? I don't have an Ipod myself, it's only what I've heard here... 13.57.46 # cowon support is the worst in the world 13.58.00 # * GodEater doubts that very much 13.58.21 # doubt what 13.58.36 # B4gder: on the iphone, DFU is triggered by a sequence of button pushes for a discrete length of time 13.59.18 # you phone must be off, but attached via USB to the PC. Then you hold the power and "home" buttons for 10 seconds. At the ten second mark, you release the power button, but keep the "home" button pressed for another 10 seconds. 13.59.54 # at the end of that process, the phone enters DFU mode (the only way to tell is windows will tell you a USB DFU device has connected) 13.59.55 Quit fdinel ("Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org") 14.00.20 # so I'm guessing it'll be similar on the Nano / Shuffle - probably some combination of "select" and "play" 14.00.25 # ruskie: you could try something like that 14.00.46 # though be warned - it'll likely wipe your music out 14.01.07 # * pondlife wonders why we have an ...unbrick page when it's not possible to "unbrick". If you manage to recover than you never had a brick in the first place... 14.01.20 # pondlife: don't get me started ;) 14.01.28 # GodEater: for the Meizu you need to hold M and POWER, then plug in the cable 14.02.14 # no fiddly timing then ? 14.02.46 # no, not really 14.02.51 # swimmer: but I'm still curious what you mean with "Rockbox switches to USB charging mode", how you enter it and what you see on the screen then 14.03.45 # GodEater, I can easily get my music back :) 14.03.54 # I'm more worried if it'll brick 14.04.30 # ruskie: in our experience, ipods are incredibly hard to brick 14.04.39 # * pixelma thinks that 2nd gen Shuffles don't make a nice brick ;) 14.04.46 # pixelma: ipod w/ rockbox is already running & I plug in the connector & rockbox displays a connector icon (?) & after that the display mode changes to sth very simply regardless the theme with a big blinking circle + the text "Do not disconnect." underneath 14.04.58 # pixelma: more details? ;-) 14.05.04 # * mcuelenaere recognizes the StMp3Rec driver from somewhere when installing that iPod reset utility.. 14.05.06 # GodEater, ow? 14.05.14 # swimmer: that's not usb charging mode 14.05.15 # ruskie: is it possible to do a firmware upgrade? 14.05.18 # btw any way to recognise DFU mode on linux? 14.05.39 # markun, no clue... this hasn't touched a win system or itunes in over a year 14.05.40 # ruskie: yes - the usb id will change in lsusb from what you usually see when the ipod is connected 14.05.46 # GodEater: I was already afraid that I am using the wrong terminology :-/ 14.05.58 # swimmer: that's apple's "disk mode" 14.06.11 # GodEater: good to know 14.06.12 # in FreeBSD you also see that a DFU device is connected with dmesg 14.06.24 # probably that too in linux 14.06.40 # * GodEater isn't keen to do it with his phone just to check as it takes 10 minutes to restore and I'd have to download a load of stuff again 14.06.43 # pixelma: rockbox switches to Apple's "disk mode" if I plug in the usb connector while charging ;-) 14.06.54 Quit tvelocity (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 14.07.07 # swimmer: the "simple screen" you see is Apples disk mode and then it should charge correctly. But sometimes this automatic reboot into this doesn't work correctly and it'll stay at the Rockbox USB screen (the plug you see) 14.07.13 # swimmer: this is if you connect it to a PC, or you're using a wall charger ? 14.07.39 # GodEater: via PC - wall charger works just fine 14.07.40 # * B4gder summed up the dfu news in a blog post 14.08.55 # swimmer: and what happens if you hold down "Menu" when you plug in the USB cable ? 14.08.55 # pixelma: can it be that the charging works correctly until the battery is fully charged and the charging stops but disk mode keeps running and consumes energy? 14.09.11 Join tvelocity [0] (n=tony@195.167.65.109) 14.09.18 # B4gder: great! Might get more people motivated. 14.09.19 # GodEater: rockbox keeps running and I get a small icon notifying me that it's charging 14.09.36 # GodEater: but let me just verify what I'm writing ... 14.10.14 # * GodEater waits for B4gder's blog posting to show up in his RSS reader 14.10.35 # B4gder: ipod classic has it too :) http://macosx.com/tech-support/mac/ipod-classic-not-recognized-on-xp-pro/335871.html 14.10.39 Quit BigBambi ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") 14.10.55 # aha 14.10.58 # markun: this is kind of moot though isn't it? We'd still need apple's keys to run code using this... 14.11.01 # but it has a differen SoC I believe 14.11.13 # GodEater: do we? 14.11.23 # not if we can access the chip directly over DFU 14.11.27 # GodEater: check - Rockbox Info gives me "Battery charging" .... 14.11.55 # GodEater: if we want to flash it then yes, but maybe we can dump the internal ROM this way where the key is hopefully stored. 14.12.36 # flashing the backlight for every bit and using a photo resistor 14.12.52 #