--- Log for 15.09.108 Server: brown.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: @logbot Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 13 days and 18 hours ago 00.01.24 Quit bughunter2 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 00.02.14 Join bughunter2 [0] (n=Jelle@77.164.66.126) 00.03.31 Join kidd3ckz [0] (n=wipedagr@ip24-252-104-179.no.no.cox.net) 00.05.09 Quit matsl (Remote closed the connection) 00.07.52 Quit xDonny ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 00.08.45 Join miepchen^schlaf_ [0] (n=miepchen@p579EC02A.dip.t-dialin.net) 00.10.53 Quit DerDome ("Leaving.") 00.12.52 Quit Seed ("cu, Andre") 00.21.34 Join Seed [0] (n=ben@bzq-84-108-232-45.cablep.bezeqint.net) 00.21.49 Quit kiddecks (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00.22.23 Quit Mathiasdm ("Invisible Internet Project: http://www.i2p2.de") 00.24.40 Quit shotofadds (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 00.26.51 Quit ompaul (Client Quit) 00.30.52 Quit Seed ("cu, Andre") 00.31.48 Quit bertrik ("Leaving") 00.32.01 Quit miepchen^schlaf (Connection timed out) 00.32.10 Quit bughunter2 ("bye") 00.40.55 Quit Schmogel ("Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org") 00.48.30 Quit Nibbler (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 00.50.37 Quit ender1 (" Whenever you cut your fingernails, you will find a need for them an hour later.") 00.54.15 Quit faemir (Remote closed the connection) 00.55.58 Join bughunter2 [0] (n=Jelle@77.164.66.126) 00.58.35 Quit markun ("leaving") 00.58.48 Join markun [50] (n=markun@rockbox/developer/markun) 01.08.22 Quit herrwaldo (Remote closed the connection) 01.08.40 Quit massiveH ("Leaving") 01.11.33 Quit dabujo (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 01.11.35 Join tapiocapudding [0] (n=chatzill@208.248.14.207) 01.12.47 # Hey there rockbox...people 01.12.56 # I have a question 01.13.06 # Forgive me if I sound stupid 01.13.18 # but is there a way to change the rockbox boot logo for the iPod nano? 01.18.10 Join beta___ [0] (n=beta@d150-126-240.home.cgocable.net) 01.18.24 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 01.18.32 # i suppose i'll take that as a "nobody is willing to answer your question right now." mnkay. 01.20.34 Quit tapiocapudding ("ChatZilla 0.9.83 [Firefox 3.0.1/2008070208]") 01.23.52 Quit avis (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 01.25.13 Quit HBK (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 01.26.10 Quit tvelocity (Remote closed the connection) 01.30.55 Join saratoga [0] (n=9803c6dd@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-0ae1b67e14051b8a) 01.31.02 # anyone want to comment on FS#9373 - Fix test_codec on multiprocessor codecs ? 01.31.30 Join damaltor [0] (n=damaltor@p54B8ECE0.dip.t-dialin.net) 01.31.37 # hello everybody 01.31.39 Quit feisar (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 01.31.49 Join feisar [0] (n=jljhook@sevo.fi) 01.33.07 # havin a problem with my ipod 1st generation, the one with the "real" scrolling wheel. i can see the rockbox main menu, but i cannot move the selection with the wheel. although i can open the selected menu point, "files", by pressing select or forward 01.33.20 # what now ? 01.33.22 # :/ 01.33.56 Quit beta__ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 01.44.02 Quit kronflux ("Leaving") 01.44.52 # damaltor: That's a known problem with some 1st Gen ipods. There is no fix yet, but it should be fixable 01.45.06 # Another thing /me should look into fixing :\ 01.45.12 # thats bad.. 01.45.31 # just reading through the forums, with no really success 01.45.55 Join kkurbjun [0] (n=kkurbjun@63-227-58-162.hlrn.qwest.net) 01.46.02 # looks like the wheel is switched of by apples firmware cause it takes up too much energy 01.46.07 # The problem with these (probably very early) 1st Gens is that they don't have a certain value that makes rockbox detect them as 1st Gens 01.46.18 # so rockbox doesnt know this 01.46.34 # So they are treated as 2nd Gen, which has no switchable wheel power 01.46.44 # ..and hence rockbox doesn't enable the wheel 01.47.05 # ah and i now noticed another thing: if i try to switch it off, by holding play, it reboots. over and over again. even when it switches of after a while, it reboots. 01.47.17 # why this? 01.47.28 # The wheel does indeed suck a lot of power, so rockbox only enables it for a very brief period every tick, until it detects actual movement 01.47.42 # Because 1st and 2ndf Gens cannot be turned off 01.47.52 Quit mcuelenaere ("Zzzzz") 01.47.58 # They can only be put into suspend, but rockbox cannot do this yet 01.47.59 Quit Nico_P (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 01.48.06 # wtf.. apple firmware can, but rockbx not? ipodlinux cant turn it of, either... 01.48.20 # apple does suspend, not turn off 01.48.36 # ok, so why doesnt rockbox suspend then? 01.48.46 # ...but rockbox cannot do this yet 01.48.55 # ah ok 01.48.55 # =) 01.49.18 # I know how to do the actual suspend, but implementing it in rockbox needs reworking a lot of code to properly wake up again 01.49.26 # oh oh 01.49.44 # so, if you want me testing, just drop me a mail 01.49.45 # (currently it would wake up, but not react properly anymore) 01.50.04 # I have a 1st Gen myself (although the slightly newer type that rockbox can detect) 01.50.21 # i have that 10gb version 01.50.33 Join Strife89 [0] (n=michael@204.116.245.152) 01.50.41 # wich has the same model no like the 5gb one 01.50.57 # Anyway, when the wheel problem will be fixed you can already use rockbox, it's just a bit cumbersome to get it into suspend 01.51.21 # yeah.. rebooting into apple os to suspend isnt the nicest way 01.51.22 # It's an internal issue. Did you ever update the original firmware on it? 01.51.41 Join kiddecks [0] (n=wipedagr@ip24-252-104-179.no.no.cox.net) 01.51.45 # hmm 01.52.17 # * amiconn guesses not 01.52.20 # and rockbox f.cks up the contrast. apple os isnt really readable anymore, i have to put contrast on maximum to barely read anything 01.52.47 Join goffa [0] (n=goffa@216.220.23.105) 01.52.49 # Yeah, I know about this too... should be fixable as well 01.53.03 # will it be gone if rockbox is removed by the installer? 01.53.17 # It's just that I don't care much about this specific problem, as I never use the OF for anything else than suspending 01.53.34 # nothing against rockbox, great effort, but ehile it doesnt work i will be golin back to appleos :) 01.53.44 # It wil also be gone after the OF wakes up from suspend again 01.53.55 # löl 01.53.59 # weitd bug 01.54.01 # weird 01.54.15 # so well, if you got anything new.. 01.54.18 # :) 01.54.19 # Nah, I know *what* causes it. 01.54.43 # what is it? 01.54.54 # Rockbox sets up the lcd controller differently. We'd need to store the original values, and put them back when going back to OF 01.55.08 # ah ok 01.55.32 # Problem is they're not simply fixed values; every hw version has their specific ones 01.55.35 # what controller is it? something standard-ish or apple-specific? 01.55.58 # Standard, or at least an equivalent 01.56.46 # Renesas HD66753 01.57.10 # ok 01.57.24 # so the lcd part is not the hardest :P 01.57.39 # The differences come from the different panels used per model/ hw revision 01.58.06 # do you know about other alternate os except rockbox and ipodlinux? 01.58.12 # no 01.59.04 # me neither.. i tried ipodlinux, but it wasnt capable to play the mp3 files without breaks 01.59.24 # and rockbox looked great, and everybody was happy... i wanted it :D 01.59.49 # Yeah... I never tried ipl on ipod 1st Gen (only on mini 2nd Gen), but I know why they have performance problems (especially on 1st..3rd Gen ipods) 02.00.26 # bricked the ipod while trying to put both of them on the ipod at same time, then finally used my 3yr old backups to restore it 02.00.39 # * amiconn did quite some reverse engineering of the protalplayer chips - clock setup, lcd controller bridges... 02.00.51 # *portalplayer 02.01.03 # i guess the IPL people never accepted your improvements? 02.01.04 # amiconn: do we ever put the hard drive in sleep mode? Is that a standard mode too? I was looking at the mk3006gal spec sheet and it looks like it saves ~7ma 02.01.23 # but the drive needs a reset when waking up after sleeping 02.01.33 # 7ma can be a lot if you have a batt-powered device 02.01.43 # kkurbjun: Of course we do. And on targets that have the required hardware, we even cut power to the drive 2 seconds later 02.02.22 # Sleep mode support in the ata driver is an ooooooold thing :) 02.02.30 # :), good to know 02.02.41 # is there any chance for me to solve the scrollwheel problem for now? doesnt look like.. 02.03.49 # Well, if you can build your own rockbox, you could probably apply a hack that makes rockbox always treat it as a 1st Gen 02.04.09 # You shouldn't install such a build on a 2nd Gen ipod of course... 02.04.14 # what do i need? i have like 4 linux machines around me atm 02.04.44 Quit goffa_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 02.04.56 # :) 02.04.57 # well 02.05.02 # i think ill wait a bit 02.05.16 # what about an option in the installer program? 02.05.30 # if 1stgen, klick here 02.05.48 # or would a 2nd gen ipod be killed by the hack? 02.05.49 # That would be a bit nasty 02.05.58 # sure.. but there is no real alternative 02.06.02 # It wouldn't be killed, but things wouldn't work properly 02.06.09 # what wouldnt work? 02.06.15 Quit Strife89 ("Bye, ya'll.") 02.06.22 # There is an alternative: fix the code so the old 1st Gen can be detected properly 02.07.06 # what wouldnt work? 02.08.43 # Several things... headphone detect, battery level reading, probably others. Would need to check the code... 02.09.01 # looks bad 02.09.20 # headphone detect... why is the headphone detected after all? 02.09.43 # if there is no headphone, the user will not hear music. he will notice it by himself, no? 02.10.02 # *imo* it doesn't make much sense. 02.10.22 # The OF uses it to pause playback when the headphone is (accidentally) unplugged 02.10.37 # The 1st Gen has no headphone detect. All later ipods have. 02.11.22 # hm 02.11.46 Quit kidd3ckz (Connection timed out) 02.11.53 # well, ok. but i think this is not a really important thing. but the others are indeed. 02.12.04 Join kidd3ckz [0] (n=wipedagr@ip24-252-104-179.no.no.cox.net) 02.13.18 # * amiconn is slightly confused... 02.13.29 Quit kiddecks (Connection timed out) 02.13.35 # I *should* have a ROM dump of such an old 1st Gen somewhere, but can't find it 02.14.00 # * damaltor can give you a dump of the os partition 02.14.19 # I don't need that... 02.14.45 # and if you need one, i can make a dump of the rest 02.17.33 Quit CaptainKewl (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 02.17.37 # You could also make a ROM dump if I tell you how. 02.18.10 # You'd need to install a specially prepared bootloader, which would then dump the rom to a file on boot 02.18.24 # But I should have that dump around... hmpf 02.18.36 # why dont i just use dd to make the dump? 02.18.45 # It's th eROM, not the disk 02.18.49 # aah 02.18.50 # ok 02.19.07 # 0o why dont you just make the dump new if you have the same ipod 02.19.27 # Because mine doesn't have the same rom contents as yours 02.19.56 # I have a dump of mine, but that won't help fixing the detection (and hence the wheel issue), because it works on mine. 02.20.16 # oh ok 02.21.05 # pixelma: ping 02.23.04 # I could prepare the necessary bootloader, but not now; need to get some sleep... 02.23.46 # where are you from 02.24.14 # Germany 02.24.41 # lol 02.24.45 # wo genau? 02.25.33 Join avis [0] (n=ident@pdpc/supporter/student/avis) 02.29.39 Nick JdGordon|zzz is now known as JdGordon (n=jonno@rockbox/developer/JdGordon) 02.30.59 Join setkeh [0] (n=setkeh@CPE-121-219-44-20.vic.bigpond.net.au) 02.55.22 Join Lambduh [0] (n=Lambda@12-203-112-233.client.mchsi.com) 03.01.21 Join massiveH [0] (n=massiveH@ool-44c48a1e.dyn.optonline.net) 03.07.48 Join perrikwp [0] (i=d1a8d351@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-a0b6a4cdfb3ab071) 03.08.39 Join HBK [0] (n=me@pool-71-96-74-73.dfw.dsl-w.verizon.net) 03.14.32 Join AndyIL [0] (n=pasha_in@212.14.205.32) 03.18.29 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 03.20.32 Quit AndyI (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 03.26.09 Join Strife89 [0] (n=michael@204.116.245.152) 03.26.50 Quit jhulst (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 03.27.14 Quit Lambduh ("Leaving") 03.30.02 Join AndyI [0] (n=pasha_in@212.14.205.32) 03.33.43 Join Darksair [0] (n=user@221.221.157.91) 03.34.12 Join jhulst [0] (n=jhulst@unaffiliated/jhulst) 03.40.49 Quit AndyIL (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 03.41.57 Join AndyIL [0] (n=pasha_in@212.14.205.32) 03.43.12 Join pixelma2 [0] (n=marianne@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 03.44.06 Quit AndyIL (Client Quit) 03.44.10 Part pixelma 03.44.41 Join AndyIL [0] (n=pasha_in@212.14.205.32) 03.44.44 Quit Strife89 ("Leaving") 03.55.04 Quit AndyI (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 03.55.39 Quit Zambezi (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 03.56.12 Join JdGordon_ [0] (n=jonno@rockbox/developer/JdGordon) 04.09.00 Quit jhulst (Remote closed the connection) 04.16.11 Part kkurbjun 04.19.47 Join miepchen^schlaf [0] (n=miepchen@p579ECE2C.dip.t-dialin.net) 04.26.57 Quit miepchen^schlaf_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 04.45.25 Join jeffdameth1 [0] (n=jeff@dyndsl-080-228-191-221.ewe-ip-backbone.de) 04.46.40 Quit jeffdameth (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 04.47.09 Quit massiveH ("Leaving") 04.50.06 Join BHSPitMonkey [0] (n=stephen@pool-71-123-206-166.dllstx.fios.verizon.net) 04.51.04 Quit BHSPitMonkey (Remote closed the connection) 05.10.54 Quit fdinel ("Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org") 05.14.02 Quit XavierGr () 05.18.34 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 05.26.51 Quit saratoga ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 05.48.09 Join gregzx_ [0] (n=chatzill@dtb195.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) 05.49.07 Quit Horschti ("http://www.geisterfahrer.org") 05.58.33 Join Infausto [0] (n=c8787487@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-7522b0e397968e22) 05.58.40 # holle there 05.58.45 # anyone active? 05.58.51 # Infausto, yea 05.58.57 # hi 05.59.06 # y have a little question 05.59.44 # just ask away and remember the guidelines 05.59.48 # i have an ipod and i compile rockbox with de last version of arm-elf toolchain, obiusly this build dont work 06.00.19 # * scorche looks for a question 06.01.02 # my question y why must be de 4.0.3 version of arm-elf toolchain? 06.01.13 # well, we recommend using certain versions of gcc for a reason... 06.01.27 # y like to know that reason 06.01.36 # the main one being because those are the ones that work... 06.02.20 # the rockboxdev.sh script makes it very easy to install the needed compilers if you havent seen it 06.03.12 # ok, i know that, but a want to xperiment with my ipod 06.04.53 Join tarbo [0] (n=me@unaffiliated/tarbo) 06.04.57 # and i wish know why the 4.0.3 version of arm toolchain is used instead of the last 4.2.2 06.05.24 # or why the 4.2.2 dont work 06.05.42 Quit gregzx (Connection timed out) 06.06.27 # is an constraint of rockbox? or the code made by 4.2.2 dont work in any arm cpu? 06.09.23 # anyone? 06.09.45 # have a bit of patience...we arent always in front of the computer... 06.09.47 Quit FastKatt (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 06.10.02 # of course 4.2.2 will work on arm chips..however the code is typically written for that compiler 06.10.41 # ahh ok, so is a problem of rockbox 06.10.50 # different version numbers imply that changes happened...many changes can break the code so that one would need to re-write much of the code in order for it to compile under a newer compiler...newer compilers are not always better 06.10.51 # simpli dont fit with the 4.2.2 06.11.06 # you could say that, but it isnt really a problem of rockbox 06.11.13 # ok 06.11.26 # thx for your answer 06.11.38 # another one 06.12.00 # some compiler versions will outright fail such as your demonstration with 4.2.2...other versions may produce larger code...others may produce certain crashes 06.12.50 # what endianess is used by rockbox in arm? 06.12.58 # little? 06.15.22 # yes 06.15.28 Quit JdGordon_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 06.15.55 # ok 06.19.43 # and the last one for today, i want to experiment with my ipod make a little progrmas (hello world for example) that just put some text in screen and the finishes. The bootloader of rockbox is design only for load the specific images of rockbox, linux or whatever or a can use that to load and execute my little app? 06.20.03 # just make a plugin... 06.21.47 Quit Zarggg () 06.27.08 # hehe, i dont wnat make a plugin, in matter of fact, i want to create an entire new os (or part of it). I am a programer, but develop embbedded apps is a new concept to me, My idea is develop a new task scheduler basen in AMP, but for that first a must learn how rockbox works. 06.30.51 Join JdGordon_ [0] (n=jonno@rockbox/developer/JdGordon) 06.38.15 # Would a 2GB Sansa M250 be of use to anyone? 06.38.26 # For RE obviously, not just as a DAP 06.39.29 # Infausto: at that point you would be leaving rockbox territory and become off-topic. 06.40.50 # rvvs89: eh...i was giving a few away at devcon..and another brought some too 06.42.07 Quit JdGordon_ ("Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org") 06.42.11 # I figured that was probably the case, as they are so cheap 06.42.27 # yup.. 06.44.39 Quit miepchen^schlaf () 07.02.42 Join n17ikh|Lappy [0] (n=n17ikh@130-127-73-84.lightsey.resnet.clemson.edu) 07.03.13 # I'm having some trouble with a utf8 (m3u8) playlist 07.03.17 # it just... doesn't work 07.03.29 # but as far as I can tell it's exactly the same as the latin-1 playlist I have 07.03.35 # with the exception of the BOM 07.03.45 # which shows up in the rockbox text editor 07.03.55 # it just gives ERR on every file 07.05.55 # but there is a patch which made it into cvs that was supposed to fix that... :/ 07.08.20 # does rockbox deal with utf8 playlists completely differently? 07.08.33 # as in, absolute instead of relative filenames or something else like that? 07.11.59 # aaaaaagh 07.12.06 # damn it, international filenames 07.12.07 # I hate this 07.12.26 # there's a different codepage on the sd card's filesystem than rockbox uses and also different from what my pc is using 07.12.32 # and the files ALWAYS get mangled 07.12.39 # I'm about to rip all my hair out over this 07.13.00 # anyone ever seen a utility to REMOVE non-ascii characters? 07.13.18 Join homielowe [0] (n=homielow@d207-81-80-78.bchsia.telus.net) 07.14.30 # and I hate that rockbox ignores the fact that I have the codepage set to latin-1 07.14.38 # and reads the playlist as... something else entirely :( 07.14.51 # who knows what, the font doesn't have the characters in it so I can't tell 07.17.55 # great 07.18.17 # if I add the spurious files to a playlist in rockbox and save it, and then open it with wordpad, I get a funky non-charactr 07.18.18 # er* 07.18.28 # but with notepad I get the right u with an accent 07.18.38 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 07.18.45 # has NO ONE here ever dealt with this before? 07.21.16 # ugh. I can't deal with this anymroe 07.21.30 # I threw my sansa across the room, I've been trying to fix this for hours 07.23.05 # or maybe this channel is just dead. 07.23.17 # either way, i'm really angry, and it still hasn't worked 07.26.42 Part toffe82 07.46.49 Quit Infausto ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 07.53.25 Join LinusN [0] (n=linus@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-1686488602fb2819) 07.56.35 Join vitja [0] (n=vitja@79.120.98.174) 07.56.59 Join Siku [0] (n=Siku@e212-246-66-148.elisa-laajakaista.fi) 08.05.48 Join Rob2223 [0] (n=Miranda@p4FDCC476.dip.t-dialin.net) 08.07.42 Quit vitja ("Ex-Chat") 08.09.37 Join ender` [0] (i=krneki@foo.eternallybored.org) 08.12.18 Join goffa_ [0] (n=goffa@216.220.23.105) 08.15.07 Join Infausto [0] (n=c8787487@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-5c79e0e7c6ae119f) 08.16.45 Join dabujo [0] (i=xx@p4FDB29D2.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 08.17.17 Join avis- [0] (n=ident@adsl-99-162-201-75.dsl.hstntx.sbcglobal.net) 08.19.20 Quit gregzx_ ("ChatZilla 0.9.83 [Firefox 3.0.1/2008070208]") 08.24.42 Quit goffa (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 08.24.49 Quit Rob2222 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 08.27.31 Quit avis (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 08.36.30 Quit bughunter2 ("bye") 08.44.40 Quit pixelma2 ("-") 08.44.44 Join pixelma [50] (i=pixelma@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 08.51.09 # n17ikh|Lappy: An .m38u is always handled as utf-8, that's its purpose. An ordinary .m3u uses the codepage you've set 08.51.39 # ANd there can't be a different code page on the file system; VFAT always uses utf-16le 08.53.02 # Rockbox converts this from/to its internal representation, which is utf-8. 08.53.56 Quit gevaerts (Nick collision from services.) 08.54.08 Join gevaerts [0] (n=fg@rockbox/developer/gevaerts) 08.54.14 Quit Infausto ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 08.57.49 # * amiconn got a mail from a rockboxer that r18515 fixed the MMC driver for Transcend 2GB cards as well :) 08.58.47 # * amiconn committed his MMC driver changes to the 3.0 branch now 09.00.17 # amiconn: nice job 09.00.33 Join [CBR]Unspoken|w [0] (n=cbr@leased-line-60-126.telecom.by) 09.06.39 # It's still not working when the card is already plugged at boot, and also not after USB, until replugging the card 09.07.00 # This is a different problem though, most probably some glitches due to pin init order 09.08.09 # I'll look into this too, but it may take a while. It may also be that it's not fixable due to the Ondio hardware 09.11.03 # amiconn: I dispute your codepage / filesystem assertion 09.11.16 # it's perfectly possible to specify a different codepage for a VFAT formatted media 09.11.49 # I had exactly the sort of grief n17ikh|Lappy reports until I got the fstab entries for them all set correctly 09.11.56 # Indeed. 09.11.59 # I worked around it, fyi 09.12.08 # turns out you can have foobar2000 convert filenames to ansi 09.12.20 # but it still irritates me 09.12.21 Join taylorh [0] (n=taylorh@host65-8.student.udel.edu) 09.12.31 # also, the build I was using was half-broken for some reason anyway :/ 09.12.55 # It wouldn't read the replaygain tags on one particular album, no matter what I did to them 09.13.02 Join bmbl [0] (n=Miranda@unaffiliated/bmbl) 09.13.07 # n17ikh|Lappy: surely the better solution is to be consistent with your codepages, rather than hack round the problem ? 09.13.09 # update the build after much frustration, it works 09.13.19 # I'm sure it would be 09.14.16 # I still don't know why none of my m3u8 playlists would work 09.14.25 Join petur [50] (n=petur@rockbox/developer/petur) 09.14.30 # at all, funky characters notwithstanding 09.14.49 # GodEater: The fstab is not for the codepage used on the actual file system. It is for the linux file system driver to convert from/to 09.15.11 # When it's set to a different codepage than your system it'll cause problems 09.15.31 # anyhow, bed for me. 09.15.44 # * petur just got up ;) 09.16.16 Quit n17ikh|Lappy () 09.16.25 # amiconn: indeed, but since that's the bit which causes the problem - it's the bit which is relevant to this case 09.16.38 # And I never understood why linux doesn't get this right automatically. I've never seen that kind of problem on windows 09.17.09 # amiconn: if you let a modern distro, which does HAL/udev it *does* do it automatically 09.17.09 # the fstab has lots of fragility in many cases 09.17.15 # you don't fiddle with the fstab 09.17.28 # its the bane of a lot of new linux user's problems 09.17.35 # or rather the cause 09.17.48 # which is why "new" users shouldn't touch it at all 09.18.10 # its not even that - they have to because it stagnates so often 09.18.23 # eh? 09.18.29 # I've not had to touch my fstab in 18 months 09.18.36 # like UUIDs not updating or etc 09.18.41 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 09.18.56 # why would a UUID need updating? They're not supposed to change. 09.19.21 # if you change something they do change - moving parts or changing their size 09.19.31 # or if your hardware changes 09.20.17 # perhaps that's not directly relevant to your fstab discussion, but that's a problem I've noticed 09.21.14 # I don't find that "moving parts" or changing hardware happen very often at all 09.21.42 # no not often, but if say you need to do something related to a multiple boot 09.22.02 # such as ? 09.22.29 # removing one piece of a triple boot and then changing the swap space size 09.23.27 # why on earth would you change the swap space size ? 09.23.40 # and what has that got to do with multiple booting anyway ? 09.23.45 # * GodEater is thoroughly befuzzeld 09.23.51 # if say it defaulted to way more than you needed or way less 09.24.10 # and space freeing up by cannibalizing a part of a multiple boot 09.24.50 # people with small hard drives can need to micromanage their swap in times of new installs or if they are running out of space 09.25.57 # basically every time you mess with the partitions the UUIDs can cause trouble 09.26.11 # because they don't update somewhere or everywhere 09.26.19 # at least that's been my experience 09.26.33 # I must be an atypical user - I've never touched anything on the harddrive in terms of partitions since I did the install 09.26.39 # there's never been any need 09.26.49 # if you keep fiddling with that stuff you're just asking for trouble imo 09.26.55 # true 09.27.53 # but I've helped many a new user who shat bricks after they, say, nuked their vista partition on a new laptop and increased their home and swap partitions to fill the old space 09.28.04 # and its always been fstab trouble 09.28.14 # taylorh, GodEater: if this is not rockbox related can you talk about it in private or in #rockbox-community? 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10.14.04 # scorche? 10.14.08 #>> "you should be ashamed of yourself with that attitude!" by scorche (n=scorche@rockbox/administrator/scorche) 10.14.38 # I thought logbot was op on purpose... and it was not logbot... 10.14.45 Mode "#rockbox +o logbot " by ChanServ (ChanServ@services.) 10.14.48 # * petur hids 10.14.56 # hides too 10.15.18 # * pixelma points at the logs :P 10.15.30 #>> "logs...." by petur (n=petur@rockbox/developer/petur) 10.15.57 # and manipulates the logs? 10.16.06 # eh? 10.16.49 # ok, thought it was a joke 10.17.21 # this "joking" thing isnt going very well through text today.. 10.18.00 # indeed 10.19.59 # at least the kicking is going well :) 10.20.25 # though a bit premature 10.20.47 Quit homielowe (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 10.20.50 # what good was going to come out of it? 10.21.23 # i am a firm believer in warnings...just one for him though 10.21.57 # he got his warning, so what's the issue? :p 10.22.40 # * scorche sighs 10.24.14 Join Nibbler [0] (n=Nibbler@p4FE62ADF.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 10.24.34 Join Zambezi [0] (i=stolgfor@itslyna.se) 10.27.54 Quit Zambezi (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 10.29.10 Quit BigBambi_ ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") 10.30.55 Nick avis- is now known as avis (n=ident@adsl-99-162-201-75.dsl.hstntx.sbcglobal.net) 10.32.09 Join funman [0] (n=fun@97-195-ftth.onsbrabantnet.nl) 10.32.43 Nick funman is now known as scatman (n=fun@97-195-ftth.onsbrabantnet.nl) 10.33.28 Quit booster606 ("cheesy poofs and pizza rolls im out!") 10.33.35 Join nplus [0] (n=nplus@141.25.Globcom.Net) 10.33.55 Join BigBambi_ [0] (i=86ceaf40@rockbox/staff/BigBambi) 10.40.11 Nick scatman is now known as funman (n=fun@97-195-ftth.onsbrabantnet.nl) 10.49.23 Quit Nibbler (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 10.51.43 Join Nibbler [0] (n=Nibbler@p4FE62ADF.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 11.00.42 Join homielowe [0] (n=homielow@d207-81-80-78.bchsia.telus.net) 11.03.57 Join DerDome [0] (n=DerDome@dslb-082-083-224-062.pools.arcor-ip.net) 11.04.26 Join Zambezi [0] (i=stolgfor@itslyna.se) 11.12.48 Quit DerDome (Nick collision from services.) 11.12.49 Join DerDome1 [0] (n=DerDome@dslb-082-083-226-065.pools.arcor-ip.net) 11.12.59 Nick DerDome1 is now known as DerDome (n=DerDome@dslb-082-083-226-065.pools.arcor-ip.net) 11.15.49 Quit DerDome (Client Quit) 11.18.45 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 11.37.06 Join Mathiasdm2 [0] (n=Mathias@78-22-6-189.access.telenet.be) 11.40.36 Join linuxstb [0] (n=linuxstb@rockbox/developer/linuxstb) 11.42.49 # hmm... I get a "can't connect to download.rockbox.org" when trying to read most of the online manuals (I get some of them so). Does this happen to others too, maybe one of the mirrors down? 11.43.07 # s/so/though 11.43.27 # works here so far 11.44.37 # the mirror i got is up at least...and running PHP4 still =/ 11.44.46 # wow, looking at http://download.rockbox.org/manual/ shows a lot of manual versions... 11.45.13 # I can't look at that page.. :\ 11.45.24 # petur: 2 weeks worth of each... 11.48.56 Quit Mathiasdm (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 11.49.48 Join [CBR]Unspoken|w [0] (n=cbr@leased-line-60-126.telecom.by) 11.49.57 Join mazling [0] (i=largeear@host86-147-122-183.range86-147.btcentralplus.com) 11.55.03 # so probably routing problems then? 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Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org") 14.53.55 Quit Nibbler (Connection timed out) 14.56.23 # Is there any way to help with porting Rockbox to v2 Sansas besides programming? 14.56.37 # not really... 14.56.44 Join Nibbler [0] (n=Nibbler@p4FE62ADF.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 14.56.57 # reverse engineering the OF 14.57.02 # J-23: what did you have in mind ? 14.57.10 # praying :) 14.58.06 # e.g. creating wiki page with links to hardware specifications and descriptions 14.59.36 # J-23: some update of the wiki would be nice 14.59.52 Quit thegeek (Connection timed out) 15.01.31 Quit fxb__ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 15.02.29 # J-23: don't you like programming ? 15.03.13 # I like, but I'm not good with low-level programming and I don't know C. 15.03.50 # then learn... 15.04.55 # and I don't know what version did I buy, will be shipped to me in next week. 15.07.54 Join LambdaCalculus37 [0] (i=44a04303@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-c1db36a7872ce348) 15.18.51 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 15.22.44 Join n1s [0] (n=nils@rockbox/developer/n1s) 15.23.00 Join robin0800 [0] (n=chatzill@cpc2-brig8-0-0-cust394.brig.cable.ntl.com) 15.23.46 Join nicktastic [0] (n=nick@unaffiliated/nicktastic) 15.24.53 # hmm, can Rockbox's doom plugin run Doom total conversion, e.g. Chex Quest? 15.25.40 # J-23: You'll have to try it for yourself. 15.26.06 # as what should I upload CQ WAD? 15.26.12 # as base WAD or as addon WAD? 15.26.25 # I tried running it as addon WAD and it didn't work. 15.26.38 Part robin0800 15.27.05 Join robin0800 [0] (n=chatzill@cpc2-brig8-0-0-cust394.brig.cable.ntl.com) 15.29.29 # J-23: it's a nice occasion to learn :) 15.30.58 Quit robin0800 (Client Quit) 15.31.13 Join robin0800 [0] (n=chatzill@cpc2-brig8-0-0-cust394.brig.cable.ntl.com) 15.35.16 Quit robin0800 (Client Quit) 15.35.45 Join robin0800 [0] (n=chatzill@cpc2-brig8-0-0-cust394.brig.cable.ntl.com) 15.40.29 Quit robin0800 (Client Quit) 15.40.46 Join robin0800 [0] (n=chatzill@cpc2-brig8-0-0-cust394.brig.cable.ntl.com) 15.43.29 Join t0mas [0] (n=tomas@rockbox/developer/t0mas) 15.44.14 Quit t0mas (Client Quit) 15.44.53 # hmm, I installed .talk files to my player and I have 360 of them. How can I remove these files? 15.45.38 # how do you normally delete files from your player? 15.45.47 # with rm or graphical utils 15.48.08 # ok, I removed all of them manually. 15.49.18 # * n1s posts a new (hopefully fixed) gigabeat f bootloader to FS#9369 and hopes for a tester 15.49.30 # * LambdaCalculus37 will volunteer 15.49.44 # great :) 15.50.10 # hmm, why "Install Rockbox utility on device" is not available? 15.54.21 Join jgarvey [0] (n=jgarvey@cpe-098-026-069-229.nc.res.rr.com) 15.54.52 Quit ender` (" I was reading the dictionary. I thought it was a poem about everything.") 15.55.16 Join fxb__ [0] (n=felixbru@h1252615.stratoserver.net) 16.02.41 Join jfc^2 [0] (n=john@dpc691978010.direcpc.com) 16.03.45 Quit jfc (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 16.07.05 Quit EspeonEefi ("さよなら") 16.07.57 Quit [CBR]Unspoken|w (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 16.09.06 Join fragilematter [0] (n=barbu_do@92.82.109.248) 16.12.16 # hmm, I copied CQ's doom.wad as doomf.wad to /.rockbox/doom/ and now Doom plugin runs, but when trying to execute WAD returns some graphics debug messages and ends. 16.13.25 # * setkeh is away: Doing Something :P afk 16.13.37 Quit robin0800 ("ChatZilla 0.9.83 [Firefox 3.0.1/2008072820]") 16.13.48 Quit Darksair (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 16.16.08 Join Seed [0] (n=ben@bzq-84-108-232-45.cablep.bezeqint.net) 16.16.21 Join [CBR]Unspoken|w [0] (n=cbr@leased-line-60-126.telecom.by) 16.23.25 Join {phoenix} [0] (n=dirk@p54B45E27.dip.t-dialin.net) 16.23.40 Quit vitja (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 16.29.13 Join goffa_ [0] (n=goffa@216.220.23.105) 16.34.50 Part fragilematter 16.36.29 Join mcuelenaere [0] (n=mcuelena@rockbox/developer/mcuelenaere) 16.39.01 Join Darksair [0] (n=user@221.221.157.91) 16.39.59 Quit goffa (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 16.45.07 Join Jorsik [0] (n=jorsik00@217-159-162-102-dsl.trt.estpak.ee) 16.49.13 # hi 16.49.37 # is it possible to assign button functions before flashing rockbox? 16.50.29 # a) Do you mean change the Rockbox button definitions and b) Very few targets flash rockbox. Which one are you talking about? 16.51.22 # i mean a 16.51.37 # There were two questions there, a and b 16.52.18 # sorry i don't quite understand b 16.52.26 # What player? 16.52.35 # well 16.52.40 # d2 16.52.48 # i know its not ready 16.53.10 # Edit /apps/keymaps/keymap-cowond2.c in the source then build rockbox as usual 16.53.22 # Jorsik: if you create your own build, you can change the keymap 16.53.49 # um 16.54.04 # i dont know how to do that:\ 16.54.22 # then learn or live with it ;) 16.54.28 # thanks 16.54.37 Join toffe82 [0] (n=chatzill@h-74-0-180-178.snvacaid.covad.net) 16.54.39 # BigBambi theres no apps folder 16.54.39 # look at www.rockbox.org/wiki/SimpleGuideToCompiling to learn about how to compile 16.54.47 # Jorsik: There is in the source code 16.54.51 # oh 16.55.03 # ok thx 16.55.15 # You need to set up a build environment, download the source code, edit it, then compile the edited source into a build 16.55.59 # i see 16.56.11 # cygwin being build environment? 16.56.17 # It is an option 16.56.29 Join saratoga [0] (n=9803c6dd@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-dd285f4485f4b6bb) 16.56.34 # Though if you are on Windows personally I would recommend the VMWare image 16.56.46 # why 16.57.05 # Because it is a lot quicker, and I think it is easier 16.58.49 # by source code you mean rockbox source code or d2 source code? 16.59.06 # same thing 16.59.10 # Rockbox of course 16.59.24 # Do you have the source code to the original D2 firmware? 16.59.44 # We certainly don't 17.02.12 Quit jeffdameth1 (Connection timed out) 17.02.56 Quit tvelocity (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 17.03.38 Join jeffdameth [0] (n=jeff@dyndsl-091-096-039-253.ewe-ip-backbone.de) 17.03.53 Join nplus_ [0] (n=nplus@141.25.Globcom.Net) 17.04.46 Join tvelocity [0] (n=tony@195.167.65.108) 17.04.46 Quit fxb__ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 17.04.50 Quit nplus (Read error: 101 (Network is unreachable)) 17.06.29 Quit Darksair (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 17.06.34 Join Darksair` [0] (n=user@221.221.157.91) 17.07.23 # preglow: how about that norwegian translation? 17.07.45 Join robin0800 [0] (n=chatzill@cpc2-brig8-0-0-cust394.brig.cable.ntl.com) 17.09.23 # rasher: what about it? 17.09.37 # preglow: It's incomplete! 17.09.46 # with what, one entry? 17.09.53 # not even visible, if i recall 17.09.55 # 9! 17.10.07 # A bunch of recording related strings 17.10.19 # right, i'll try to have a look later 17.10.25 # http://rasher.dk/rockbox/translate/?cmd=edit&lang=norsk 17.10.31 # translation isn't my favourite activity :/ 17.10.51 Join XavierGr [0] (n=xavier@rockbox/staff/XavierGr) 17.10.54 # I think most of them should actually already be in the old file iirc 17.11.18 # I think he just moved the strings around or something. 17.11.56 # i was planning to actually try it out as well, to see if something looks silly 17.12.15 # J-23: you ordered a sansav2 ? 17.12.33 # preglow: brave man 17.13.52 Join bughunter2 [0] (n=Jelle@77.164.66.126) 17.18.25 Quit robin0800 ("ChatZilla 0.9.83 [Firefox 3.0.1/2008072820]") 17.18.53 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 17.19.31 Join robin0800 [0] (n=robin080@cpc2-brig8-0-0-cust394.brig.cable.ntl.com) 17.24.49 Join star_jasmine [0] (n=arwyneve@75.108.74.16) 17.25.40 # hi... a cygwin question here. I can't download from download.rockbox.org/cygwin. can someone help? 17.26.24 Join ender` [0] (i=krneki@foo.eternallybored.org) 17.28.38 # it just claims not to find the setup.ini file 17.31.21 # i think it says there 17.31.45 Join robin0800_ [0] (n=robin080@cpc2-brig8-0-0-cust394.brig.cable.ntl.com) 17.32.06 # that you have to use X flag when installing 17.32.20 Part robin0800 ("Konversation terminated!") 17.35.55 # it worked before... that's the trouble 17.35.56 Quit Nibbler (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 17.36.26 # when was that 17.37.21 # a month ago or less 17.43.08 # star_jasmine: What's the exact error message? 17.45.33 Join culture [0] (n=kvirc@cpc1-bele3-0-0-cust658.belf.cable.ntl.com) 17.47.10 # unable to get http://download.rockbox.org/cygwin/setup.ini.sig from htp://download.rockbox.org/cygwin/ 17.48.36 # funman: I don't know, it will be delivered to me in next week. 17.48.40 Quit culture (Client Quit) 17.48.49 # J-23: is that a surprise package, or ? 17.49.57 # Sansas v1 and v2 don't differ by design and in shops they're not descripted as v1/v2 17.50.05 Join domonoky [0] (n=Domonoky@g227016049.adsl.alicedsl.de) 17.50.26 # linuxstb, star_jasmine: http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/9263 17.50.54 # star_jasmine: Then you need to follow the instructions here - http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/CygwinDevelopment#Step_3_Select_the_Rockbox_mirror 17.51.06 # ok thanks 17.54.23 Join culture_ [0] (n=sam@cpc1-bele3-0-0-cust658.belf.cable.ntl.com) 17.55.16 Join fxb__ [0] (n=felixbru@h1252615.stratoserver.net) 17.59.35 # ah ok 18.00.55 Quit funman ("leaving") 18.03.55 Quit {phoenix} (Remote closed the connection) 18.04.06 Join herrwaldo [0] (n=waldo@ip-81-11-208-181.dsl.scarlet.be) 18.05.31 Join pvagner_ [0] (n=chatzill@adsl-dyn128.78-99-147.t-com.sk) 18.06.13 Join Schmogel [0] (n=Miranda@p3EE21AC9.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 18.07.25 Quit BigBambi_ ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") 18.08.18 Join miepchen^schlaf [0] (n=miepchen@p579ECE2C.dip.t-dialin.net) 18.10.47 Quit petur ("work->home") 18.12.11 Part pvagner_ 18.12.14 Quit robin0800_ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 18.12.37 Join robin0800 [0] (n=robin080@cpc2-brig8-0-0-cust394.brig.cable.ntl.com) 18.13.00 # * J-23 listens to music using Rockbox simulator... 18.14.44 Quit linuxstb (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 18.15.39 # how do I select the -X (--no-verify) command when downloading rockbox via cygwin 18.21.46 Quit XavierGr (Nick collision from services.) 18.21.47 # iirc you start the setup program with the -X switch (either by modifying a shortcut or using the command line 18.21.57 Join XavierGr [0] (n=xavier@rockbox/staff/XavierGr) 18.22.26 Quit miepchen^schlaf (Remote closed the connection) 18.23.06 Join miepchen^schlaf [0] (n=miepchen@p579ECE2C.dip.t-dialin.net) 18.25.10 Quit robin0800 (Remote closed the connection) 18.25.32 Join robin0800 [0] (n=robin080@cpc2-brig8-0-0-cust394.brig.cable.ntl.com) 18.28.29 # how do I modify the shortcut within windows? 18.28.39 Join faemir [0] (n=faemir@88-106-209-242.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) 18.30.20 Join bertrik [0] (n=bertrik@ip117-49-211-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl) 18.31.25 # star_jasmine: right-click on it, and choose propertys. but thats offtopic... 18.32.35 Join frinkazoid [0] (n=waldo@ip-81-11-208-181.dsl.scarlet.be) 18.32.36 Quit herrwaldo (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 18.33.52 Part LinusN 18.41.44 Quit nplus_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 18.51.51 # Why RBUtilQt doesn't allow user to remove addons? 18.52.50 # J-23: what do you mean ? it allows to remove all extra package you can install with it.. 18.53.05 # how? 18.53.51 # select the uninstall rockbox button, and it will present you wit a list of seperatly removable packages.. 18.54.40 # thanks, I didn't think about that option. 18.58.43 Join jhulst [0] (n=jhulst@unaffiliated/jhulst) 18.58.51 # Does someone know what DOOMBUTTON_ENTER is used for? The reason for asking is this - while filling out button tables I noticed that some targets use the same button for this "enter" and "fire" - however the Ipods do not ("enter" on select and "play" for fire) and it looks like this would be the only reason to not use "play" (or down) for moving backwards 18.59.23 # There are a few possibilities: if this enter needs to be usable simultaniously to fire then a few other targets are "broken" (e.g. the Sansas, Iaudios) - if not, the Ipods could probably get s "move backwards" too - or I'm overlooking something... 19.00.43 Join Arathis [0] (n=doerk@p508A3B9A.dip.t-dialin.net) 19.02.20 # rasher: i don't get it, some of the fields are greyed out, not allowing me to translate. i expect there is something here i just don't understand 19.02.53 # Can somebody tell me how should I put Chex Quest WAD on my player? (where and how should I name it) 19.03.00 # preglow: those are not supposed to be translated because the english version doesn't translate them 19.03.13 # yeah, i noticed now 19.03.41 # Er, the english version doesn't *contain* them 19.04.16 # preglow: before you commit to 3.0, make sure that VOICE_FIFE wasn't changed to VOICE_FIVE 19.04.40 Join jhulst_ [0] (n=jhulst@unaffiliated/jhulst) 19.04.57 # VOICE_FIFE???? 19.05.21 # There was a misspelling that got fixed after the branch 19.05.31 # nice one 19.05.36 # but yeah, i'll check it out 19.06.19 # It's in the string id, so purely cosmetical, but breaks awfully if it's not the same as english.lang 19.09.24 Nick fxb__ is now known as fxb (n=felixbru@h1252615.stratoserver.net) 19.12.24 Quit saratoga ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 19.15.18 # hmm, is RockDoom Doom95 compatible? 19.16.38 Quit jhulst (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 19.16.45 # RockDoom is a PrBoom port, right? That should make it about the most compatible port there is 19.18.58 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 19.20.09 Join mirak [0] (n=mirak@81-66-70-98.rev.numericable.fr) 19.20.10 Join kronflux [0] (n=kronflux@hlfxns0161w-142068040196.pppoe-dynamic.ns.aliant.net) 19.21.07 # pixelma: Iirc Enter and Fire are mutually exclusive (you only need 'enter' when opening a door, switching a switch etc, and then you don't want to shoot the door ;) ) 19.21.38 # But there is a reason why using Play for moving backwards on ipods would be bad: if you hold it for too long, you'll shut down the ipod... 19.22.28 # would probably the best doom on Ipod feature ever... :P 19.22.37 # +be 19.22.51 # Hehehe... :) 19.23.00 # "Only cowards move backward that much" style... 19.23.49 # why is DOOMBUTTON_SHOOT on "play" then?... 19.23.55 # for Ipods 19.24.09 # amiconn, nice job on simplifying the MMC card driver 19.24.51 # * amiconn needs archos.ucl made from the Ondio FM OF 19.27.58 Join gregzx [0] (n=chatzill@dtb195.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) 19.29.56 Join Nibbler [0] (n=Nibbler@e181073094.adsl.alicedsl.de) 19.32.54 Join blahrus [0] (n=blahrus@75.150.209.185) 19.34.43 Join nplus [0] (n=nplus@141.25.globcom.net) 19.37.23 Join Xerion [0] (i=xerion@82-170-197-160.ip.telfort.nl) 19.44.20 # so, is it possible that someone accidentally shuts an Ipod off when using continious fire, or is it not? <- shows how much I know about doom... 19.44.54 # pixelma: don't worry. Most avid doom players don't know that ;) 19.45.34 Join Xerion_ [0] (n=xerion@cp198589-d.landg1.lb.home.nl) 19.46.24 # gevaerts: copied qt1106.c and made some changes: http://130.89.160.166/temp/lcd-init.c 19.48.00 Quit jhulst_ (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 19.48.37 Quit Xerion (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 19.49.35 Quit Xerion_ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 19.49.37 Join Xerion [0] (n=xerion@cp198589-d.landg1.lb.home.nl) 19.51.31 # markun: I'm looking at the ||s in qt1106.c, and I'm a bit doubtful about the shifts 19.52.17 # * gevaerts looks again 19.52.21 Join lasser [0] (n=f@Vf503.v.pppool.de) 19.52.41 # Forget that, I was wrong... 19.53.05 # However, I think some macros to set GPIOs to input or output would be useful 19.53.14 # gevaerts: yes, I think so too 19.53.26 Join vitja [0] (n=vitja@79.120.98.174) 19.54.16 # * amiconn hmpfs @Transcend 19.54.34 # markun: I'll try to make some. Shall I put then in s5l8700.h? 19.54.40 # Making this card work on boot is a hard one. Maybe it's not possible on the Ondio hw 19.54.49 # gevaerts: sure 19.54.55 Join Xerion_ [0] (n=xerion@cp198589-d.landg1.lb.home.nl) 19.54.56 # * preglow wants "on" and "off" instead of "yes" and "no" for the feature enable settings 19.54.58 # The OF also doesn't like this card when it's plugged at boot 19.55.35 # now it seems we have a mix of both 19.55.43 # preglow: If it's called "blabla enable" then it should be yes/no. But if it's only called "blabla", then it's on/off 19.55.49 # That's like it is now 19.55.52 Quit Xerion (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 19.55.52 Nick Xerion_ is now known as Xerion (n=xerion@cp198589-d.landg1.lb.home.nl) 19.56.11 # amiconn: in that case i don't think there should be an "enable" in the settings text 19.56.19 # gevaerts: can you also look how an SPI read from R00h of the LCD drivers is supposed to work? 19.56.41 # preglow: In general, yes. But there are special cases where this would be confusing 19.56.48 # amiconn: an example? 19.57.36 # Sound settings->Equalizer->Enable EQ 19.57.43 # yeah, i agree there 19.57.54 # If you rename this, you'll end up with Sound settings->Equalizer->Equalizer 19.58.04 # There are several other examples of this type 19.58.08 # but sound settings->crossfeed yes/no, for example, seems weird 19.58.15 # markun: can you give me some hints on where to look? 19.58.24 Quit Xerion (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 19.58.46 # preglow: Yup. And btw, crossfeed is an example for the confusion already in place 19.58.53 # Crossfeed->Crossfeed 19.58.55 # yeah, i see 19.58.57 Join Xerion [0] (n=xerion@cp198589-d.landg1.lb.home.nl) 19.59.10 Quit Xerion (Remote closed the connection) 19.59.38 Join p3tur [50] (n=petur@rockbox/developer/petur) 19.59.40 # can't remember if that is my fault or not 19.59.46 # gevaerts: starting at page 39 I think 19.59.51 # i never did pay more than half a mind when doing gui work... 19.59.58 Join ompaul [0] (n=ompaul@gnewsense/friend/ompaul) 20.00.06 # Crossfade is another mixup example: The option is "Enable crossfade", but the first choice is "off" 20.00.10 # Should be "no" 20.00.16 # gevaerts: eh, 38 20.00.43 # oh well, this is post 3.0 stuff anyway 20.00.56 # * gevaerts reads 20.01.03 # There are still several more or less nasty gui bugs :\ 20.01.28 # amiconn: yeah, we really should do an overhaul 20.01.34 # Non-working peakmeters in hwcodec radio screen, scrolling lines punching through non-converted screens, wrong font in use... 20.01.42 # a definite 3.1 blocker if you ask me 20.02.14 # i also see that lists of volume ranges are sometimes inverted, sometimes not... 20.02.24 # volume list is inverted on nano, but eq preamp not 20.04.11 # another one, party mode yes/no 20.04.55 # Then there are the strings that are inexplicably spelled out in the setting (invert lcd is one) 20.05.25 # Which should be "Invert lcd -> yes/no" but is "LCD mode -> normal/inverted" 20.05.43 Quit star_jasmine (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 20.06.40 # rasher: Invert LCD: Yes/No sounds like a good idea... 20.06.41 # gevaerts: maybe page 90 is relevant 20.06.56 # hmm 20.07.05 # i take it there are no more lcd modes we could support? 20.07.11 # if not, then i say it's a good idea 20.07.15 # It'd save 2 specialised strings, and it would be more obvious what the setting does without entering it 20.07.25 # Agreed. 20.08.01 # markun: page 78 could be interesting as well later on 20.08.09 Join neddy [0] (n=john@nat/sun/x-664910eb46eac12d) 20.08.10 Join star_jasmine [0] (n=arwyneve@75.108.74.16) 20.08.15 # preglow: All numeric lists (volume and other dB values, limits etc) should be inverted on scrollwheel targets 20.08.52 # ...so that scrolling forward increases the value, as one would expect 20.11.28 Quit toffe82 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 20.11.30 # amiconn: i agree, as long as it's consistent 20.11.56 # couldn't we have just for example Crossfeed->Enable yes/no it's clear from the context that it's crossfeed you're enabling 20.13.05 Join toffe82 [0] (n=chatzill@h-74-0-180-178.snvacaid.covad.net) 20.13.47 Quit ompaul (Client Quit) 20.13.55 # amiconn: Yeah, the latter part is more important (making it clear what the option does) 20.18.21 # n1s: It's only clear if you know where you are 20.18.33 # markun: one way to read it is that you send a start byte with RS and RW both 0, followed by a 16 bit register address (0 in out case). After that a new start byte, with RS and RW both one, and the following two bytes IN contain the data we want 20.18.42 # gevaerts: What do you think is the best way to support multiple LCD driver IC's? Have a struct with function pointers to the various LCD functions? 20.19.33 # markun: Is there a single target which can have 2 different ones? 20.19.40 # amiconn: yes 20.19.47 # markun: that's at least the simplest way to do it. If someone thinks of a better way later, we can change it 20.19.51 # Is it only 2, or more different ICs? 20.20.16 # amiconn: I'm not sure how ofter they have changed the pannels 20.20.32 # The panel shouldn't matter, only the driver IC 20.20.47 # Ipod Color/Photo also has 2 possible LCD drivers, and there the driver functions handle the difference 20.21.01 # if (newlcd) { .. } else { ... } 20.21.10 # we could do it like that yes 20.21.22 # The H300 comes with 2 different panels but only one driver IC 20.22.02 # amiconn: can't we expect users to know that? (the ones that don't should enable the list title thing anyway...) 20.22.29 # amiconn: looks like the M6SL has code for 3 different ICs: http://www.meizume.com/rockbox/5871-lcd-initialization-commands-official-firmware.html 20.23.56 Quit Darksair` (Client Quit) 20.24.07 # And you're sure all these ICs are actually used in shipped devices? 20.24.08 # amiconn: it could be that they've changed more things like the DAC and the FM chip as well 20.24.27 # amiconn: yes, some newer models don't work with older firmwares because of this 20.24.35 # urgh 20.24.41 # you can flash the firmware, but the screen will not work 20.24.46 # Can those models be distinguished by the user? 20.25.13 # maybe if we find out the serial number range, but I don't think there will be another way to do it 20.25.24 # n1s: a list title of "Enable" won't help much anyway 20.26.56 # rasher: if you manage to forget that you are in the Crossfed menu between selecting "Enable" and having to choose yes/no IMHO there isn't much we can do anyway, such a user would be lost forever in our menu system... 20.27.03 # amiconn: gevaerts and I will most likely have the same revision of the M6SL, so for now we could ignore the problem 20.27.09 # markun: I don't think a table would be helpful (unless there are cases where a function can be used for 2 of 3 panels). You need to provide the driver api anyway, and that's one function for each task 20.27.27 # n1s: still, from a interface viewpoint, having a screen labelled "Enable: yes/no" is awful 20.27.41 # Hence you would need a dispatcher anyway, and then you can build the dispatcher into the function directly 20.27.59 # markun: do you think it's likely that there will be differences outside initialisation? 20.28.00 # Just use a switch() and number your different driver ICs 20.28.23 # rasher: maybe we can make some nicer looking yes/no splash/dialogue thing, a full screen displaying only yes/no isn't that nice anyway 20.28.26 # gevaerts: things like screen flip 20.28.43 # amiconn: yes, I think that's probably the way to do it 20.29.52 # or even have some kind of checkmark or something for enable type settings, no need for an extra screen and easier to overview 20.30.34 # n1s: A chekmark might work, although it'd probably still look odd on small screens with large fonts 20.31.13 # In general I don't like inline settings. They're nice if you have enough screen space *and* the font size is predictable 20.31.50 # But if you cannot predict the font size / screen size ratio, they're bad. And you cannot predict that ratio in rockbox... 20.32.11 Quit toffe82 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 20.32.30 # we could make two icons, checked box and unchecked box and leave it to the theme to have a suitable font 20.33.11 Join linuxstb [0] (n=linuxstb@rockbox/developer/linuxstb) 20.33.12 Part J-23 20.36.00 # amiconn: meizu changed the UDA1380 for a wolfson chip in the M3.. 20.36.44 Nick Mathiasdm2 is now known as Mathiasdm (n=Mathias@78-22-6-189.access.telenet.be) 20.36.51 Join Horscht [0] (n=Horscht@xbmc/user/horscht) 20.38.38 # Maybe all fonts should include checkmarks 20.38.43 # (there are glyphs for this) 20.39.00 # * amiconn disagrees 20.39.05 Join MethoS- [0] (n=clemens@host-091-096-212-191.ewe-ip-backbone.de) 20.39.29 # It'd solve the font size problem 20.39.36 # (a) it would require to adapt nearly every font before it's suitable for rockbox, and (b) some people might want coloured checkmarks 20.39.49 Join {phoenix} [0] (n=dirk@p54B45E27.dip.t-dialin.net) 20.39.56 # And it wouldn't solve the font size problem I was referring to 20.40.40 # I didn't mean the checkmark size vs. font size (which could btw be solved by using simple vector gfx checkmarks), but the crowdedness of the screen 20.41.24 # Adding checkmarks to all fonts shouldn't be that hard a task 20.41.55 # You could end up with [Option: x] or [Opt X] (extreme examples, the [] represent screen borders 20.41.58 # But I agree that it only solves one problem 20.42.36 # * gevaerts is confused 20.42.44 # And the latter example becomes even more ugly if you imagine the lines above and below that [Opt X] as well 20.43.03 # And probably would make most fonts huge (using the current font format) 20.45.27 # markun: does the svn meizu code work for you? 20.50.02 Quit lasser () 21.01.46 Join miepchen^schlaf_ [0] (n=miepchen@p579EC920.dip.t-dialin.net) 21.02.10 Join t0mas [0] (n=tomas@82-171-201-250.ip.telfort.nl) 21.05.49 Quit nplus (Remote closed the connection) 21.07.38 Quit robin0800 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 21.08.50 Quit miepchen^schlaf (Connection timed out) 21.09.32 Join jhulst [0] (n=jhulst@unaffiliated/jhulst) 21.09.42 # markun: I think we need to keep the 24 bit transfers, as the CS line needs to stay low for the duration 21.12.30 Nick fxb is now known as fxb__ (n=felixbru@h1252615.stratoserver.net) 21.12.31 Nick fxb__ is now known as fxb (n=felixbru@h1252615.stratoserver.net) 21.13.36 Quit star_jasmine () 21.14.07 Quit Nibbler (Remote closed the connection) 21.14.58 Join bertx [0] (n=bertx@brln-4db89f6f.pool.einsundeins.de) 21.15.23 # hallo everybody 21.17.41 Part bertx ("Konversation terminated!") 21.18.30 # Okay.... 21.19.02 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 21.20.50 Quit Unhelpful ("ZNC by prozac - http://znc.sourceforge.net") 21.22.06 Join MU{lappy} [0] (n=Militant@pool-98-117-9-134.hrbgpa.fios.verizon.net) 21.24.11 # gevaerts: ok, even better 21.24.20 Nick MU{lappy} is now known as Unhelpful (n=Militant@pool-98-117-9-134.hrbgpa.fios.verizon.net) 21.24.53 Quit {phoenix} (Remote closed the connection) 21.24.54 # gevaerts: so these are also 24 bit transfers? 8 bit for the command and then 16 for the data? 21.25.23 # That's what I think, yes 21.25.46 # * amiconn found another bug in the MMC driver... 21.31.06 # amiconn: is this MMC driver only for the ondio or will it fix things for targets with an SD readers as well? 21.31.12 Quit mirak (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 21.31.15 # Ondio only 21.32.04 Join mirak [0] (n=mirak@81-66-70-98.rev.numericable.fr) 21.32.58 Join {phoenix} [0] (n=dirk@p54B45E27.dip.t-dialin.net) 21.37.59 Quit {phoenix} (Remote closed the connection) 21.38.14 Join {phoenix} [0] (n=dirk@p54B45E27.dip.t-dialin.net) 21.41.02 Quit Arathis ("Bye, bye") 21.44.12 Join Nibbler [0] (n=Nibbler@e181073094.adsl.alicedsl.de) 21.46.59 Join shotofadds [0] (n=rob@rockbox/developer/shotofadds) 21.47.01 Quit shotofadds (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 21.48.12 Join shotofadds [0] (n=rob@rockbox/developer/shotofadds) 21.54.03 Join SF17 [0] (n=sf@71-90-98-26.dhcp.aldl.mi.charter.com) 21.59.17 Quit LambdaCalculus37 ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") 22.03.29 Quit Nico_P (Remote closed the connection) 22.03.58 Join Infausto [0] (n=c8787487@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-a19c5e4153a87de4) 22.04.24 Join Nico_P [50] (n=nicolas@rockbox/developer/NicoP) 22.05.32 Quit MethoS- (Remote closed the connection) 22.07.42 # where do I get the descramble and scramble programs in these instructions? http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IriverBoot#Descramble_the_original_firmware 22.08.32 # my friend asked me to do that for him since he doesn't have Linux 22.10.58 # SF17: better use rbutil for this, it does all this for you , and it works on lin/win/mac :-) 22.12.05 # SF17: As domonoky says, use rbutil - those instructions only exist as the old manual method (fwpatcher.exe) was for windows - you do not *need* linux in any way 22.12.10 # SF17: or do you want to install a non-official bootloader ? (rbutil doesnt do this, and its not recomended) 22.12.22 # SF17: I'd advise following the install instructions in the manual 22.12.45 Join robin0800 [0] (n=robin080@cpc2-brig8-0-0-cust394.brig.cable.ntl.com) 22.16.46 # all my friend said was that he wants his iRiver to play .flac files 22.17.33 # So follow the install instructions on the manual 22.17.40 # s/in/on/ 22.17.43 # alright, thanks 22.18.02 # And you are aware that Rockbox is a complete replacement firmware, it doesn't just alter the iriver one? 22.18.22 # You/he will want to have a look at the manual to learn how it works 22.18.23 # yeah, I figured that out from a bit of research 22.18.28 Quit robin0800 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 22.18.31 # okay 22.19.02 Join robin0800 [0] (n=robin080@cpc2-brig8-0-0-cust394.brig.cable.ntl.com) 22.19.42 Quit robin0800 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 22.20.02 Join robin0800 [0] (n=robin080@cpc2-brig8-0-0-cust394.brig.cable.ntl.com) 22.21.30 Join star_jasmine [0] (n=arwyneve@75.108.74.16) 22.23.29 Quit {phoenix} (Remote closed the connection) 22.26.30 Quit Schmogel (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 22.28.14 Join toffe82 [0] (n=chatzill@h-74-0-180-178.snvacaid.covad.net) 22.28.32 Join Lambduh [0] (n=Lambda@12-203-112-233.client.mchsi.com) 22.30.20 # markun: it seems as if I get the SPI link to work, but the data make no sense. I get 0xa802 back instead of 0x0129 or 0x0139 22.30.56 # gevaerts: and you get this value every time? 22.31.17 # yes, and if I read more bytes, those two bytes keep repeating 22.31.28 # what about other registers? 22.32.06 Join damaltor_ [0] (n=damaltor@p54B8C9CD.dip.t-dialin.net) 22.32.09 # * gevaerts tries 22.33.29 # gevaerts: I only see reading defined for R22 and SR 22.33.44 # R22h 22.33.45 # yes, that's the problem 22.33.54 Join CyBergRind|w [0] (n=cbr@leased-line-60-126.telecom.by) 22.34.40 # of course, we might not have a S6D0129/39 22.35.22 # 154 could also be possible 22.35.36 # and another unknown one 22.36.11 # but then we would be sending a different Chip ID so I don't know if it should be replying anything to us 22.37.22 # reading from R22h gives exactly the same 22.37.53 Quit n1s () 22.38.09 Quit Seed ("cu, Andre") 22.38.11 # gevaerts: and I see in the 154 datasheet that we need to send the same "device id code" as the 129/39 22.38.22 Quit Nico_P (Remote closed the connection) 22.38.50 Quit nicktastic (".") 22.39.23 # gevaerts: could be that we have this 'unknown' one http://www.meizume.com/rockbox/5871-lcd-initialization-commands-official-firmware.html#post59001 22.39.44 # the init code looks very different from the other ones 22.40.47 # markun: open it? 22.41.02 Join Nico_P [50] (n=nicolas@rockbox/developer/NicoP) 22.41.50 # gevaerts: I remember from the Gigabeat that the driver IC was on the glass of the LCD module 22.42.22 # some read some markings with a microscope I believe, but it didn't help us identify it 22.42.32 # toffe82: was it you? 22.42.48 Quit damaltor (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 22.43.06 # markun: it was jhMikeS who tries to look at it 22.44.23 # gevaerts: hm, what next? set up the LCD registers for the soc correctly and try out the init sequences one by one? 22.48.00 Quit [CBR]Unspoken|w (Connection timed out) 22.48.05 # I don't know 23.00.33 Quit Infausto ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 23.00.43 Join barrywardell [0] (n=barrywar@79.97.87.130) 23.00.47 Quit robin0800 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 23.01.30 Quit star_jasmine () 23.04.33 # markun: My current code is at http://pastebin.ca/raw/1203711 (as a diff) 23.05.03 Quit p3tur ("Zzzzz") 23.05.29 # gevaerts: and no more luck? 23.05.33 # no 23.07.19 # gevaerts: it would at least be interesting to see what kind of results wpyh gets 23.07.32 # indeed. 23.07.47 # What do you get? 23.09.48 Quit SF17 ("Lost terminal") 23.10.38 Quit Mathiasdm ("bye") 23.11.02 # gevaerts: the patch doesn't apply for some reason 23.11.49 # Is your tree clean? 23.11.58 # yes, I think so 23.12.17 Quit domonoky (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 23.12.20 # just did a git-pull and got the latest commits 23.12.28 Quit jgarvey ("Leaving") 23.13.37 # http://www.evonet.be/~gevaerts/meizu_m6sl.c and http://www.evonet.be/~gevaerts/lcd-m6sl.c 23.14.07 Join Infausto [0] (n=c8787487@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-8a7d4e41ddb39d25) 23.14.50 Join inigomontoya [0] (n=621cc016@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-69b50495bc8b6215) 23.15.13 # gevaerts: git diff now shows exactly what was in the pastebin, how weird 23.17.08 # It flashes half-bytes, LSB to MSB, with one flash meaning 0 (so the 0xa802 is flashed as 3-1-9-11) 23.17.35 # Unless I did something stupid 23.18.13 Quit shotofadds (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 23.19.00 # gevaerts: nothing happens 23.19.03 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 23.19.15 # That's not much... 23.19.25 # Not even the backlight? 23.19.33 # hello 23.19.46 # i have a little question 23.19.51 # Just ask 23.19.59 # how i can build the ipodpatcher? 23.20.15 # Do you need a newer one that the one released? 23.20.19 # * gevaerts has to go for half an hour or so 23.20.23 # s/that/than/ 23.20.42 # gevaerts: not even that 23.20.54 # i build the firmware last nigth, but a dont kno how to build de ipodpatcher 23.21.12 # Is there a reason you aren't using the released pre compiled ones? 23.21.28 # gevaerts: I see it waits for PLAY, but nothing 23.21.37 # (I see it in the code I mean) 23.21.56 # because i want to experiment with the code 23.22.35 # Infausto: There's a README file in the ipodpatcher source directory (rbutil/ipodpatcher in the Rockbox source tree) 23.22.39 # gevaerts: my player still works. When I plug in the USB cable without the key combo I get into my 'failed' flash experiment :) 23.23.04 # shit, really??, a dont see that file 23.23.16 # Infausto: In fact, there isn't.... But you just type "make"... 23.23.33 # Infausto: If you want to embed all the bootloaders in ipodpatcher, read the comments at the top of the Makefile 23.23.41 # y tipe that an nothing happens 23.24.00 # No messages at all? 23.24.17 # "cannot find configure" file 23.24.25 # or something like thtat 23.24.39 # wath configura file i must execute previusly? 23.25.18 # None. What's the _exact_ error message when you type "make" in the rbutil/ipodpatcher/ directory? 23.25.30 # just wait 23.25.46 # cc1: config.h: No such file or directory 23.25.56 # Makefile:109: /make.inc: No such file or directory 23.26.04 # make: *** No rule to make target `/make.inc'. Stop. 23.27.14 # Infausto: are you in the right folder? 23.27.53 # bootloader folder? 23.28.04 # Infausto: Read my last message to you. 23.28.18 Join shotofadds [0] (n=rob@rockbox/developer/shotofadds) 23.29.04 # a shit, my mistake, i in the ipodpatcher 23.31.16 # markun: you could try to put the delays back in lcd_spi_io() 23.31.25 Join EternalRains [0] (n=chatzill@c-76-106-220-241.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) 23.32.31 Quit EternalRains (Client Quit) 23.32.32 # gevaerts: I'll first try the unmodified code, see if my meizu runs the code at all 23.32.43 Join EternalRains [0] (n=unknown@c-76-106-220-241.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) 23.33.16 # * shotofadds has an odd playback problem. I've defined ACTION_WPS_PLAY on the D2 (it's managed without one so far..) but trying to use it for play/pause behaviour does not seem to work correctly. Audio is muted and the pause icon appears, but playback does not actually stop... any ideas? 23.35.13 # gevaerts: the touchpad code works, but the touchpad is hardly reacting. I hope I didn't break my player. 23.35.49 # markun: that sometimes happens. Were your fingers near the touchpad during calibration? 23.36.08 Quit gregzx ("ChatZilla 0.9.83 [Firefox 3.0.1/2008070208]") 23.36.23 # gevaerts: could be, let me try again 23.36.57 # works perfect again :) 23.37.39 # good :) 23.38.02 # your test code still doesn't do anything here 23.39.29 # I could send you my rockboot.ebn 23.39.49 Join LambdaCalculus37 [0] (n=LambdaCa@c-24-0-218-198.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) 23.40.08 # http://www.evonet.be/~gevaerts/rockboot.ebn 23.41.23 Quit Nico_P (Remote closed the connection) 23.44.49 Quit bertrik ("Leaving") 23.48.54 Quit faemir (Remote closed the connection) 23.51.06 Join fdinel [0] (n=Miranda@modemcable204.232-203-24.mc.videotron.ca) 23.51.11 Quit t0mas ("good night") 23.54.20 # LANG_FAILED is used erronously in places 23.54.28 Quit inigomontoya ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)") 23.54.40 # it's supposed to be appended to an action, but the db, for example, does'nt prepend anything 23.55.18 # it doesn't matter for english which (wrongly) has it in caps, but for other languages you get a lower-case "failed" equivalent 23.56.47 Join faemir [0] (n=faemir@88-106-209-242.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) 23.57.51 # also, can someone tell me the point of the "screen scrolls out of view" setting? 23.58.55 # It's used for horizontal screen scrolling in lists