--- Log for 19.09.108 Server: brown.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: @logbot Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 17 days and 18 hours ago 00.00.33 # Bagder: I did made "make -V1 > log" -- some messages went to log file and others to shell, not on log file... 00.00.47 # ah, ok 00.01.04 # right, you need to add "2>&1" too if you want to redir stderr to the same file 00.02.08 # okok - do you want I do it? 00.02.14 # nah 00.04.48 Quit Nibbler (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 00.05.05 # and you need to "make V=1", not "make -V1" 00.05.55 # so, I need to use gcc 4.03 but I don't know why it is discarding that code :-( 00.06.22 # looking at map file, it simples includes the other code of that C file, but not that 2 functions :-( 00.06.27 Quit domonoky (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 00.08.54 Quit LambdaCalculus37 ("Do quit now, there's a demon around the corner!") 00.09.47 # I don't see why, but you could easily clone the crt0-pp.S approach to work around it 00.11.57 # hmmm.... Okok - I will invest my energies on that.... 00.12.16 # oh, but that means also the assembly file :-( 00.12.37 # yes, the vector table is assembly 00.12.57 # but you could also just remove the calls to the problematic functions and replace them with nops or whatever 00.14.47 # problematic functions, in my actual code? 00.14.58 # no, I mean the calls to the functions from the vector table 00.15.46 # well, I didn't make any assembly file, I just used that made by Atmel :-) 00.16.51 # right, but copy and paste then from the file I mentioned! 00.17.33 # okok - I will study that files of pp target 00.17.45 # Bagder: why did you suggest the pp files? 00.18.02 # because I loaded it and it had an easy approach 00.18.45 # I was seeing that tms320dm320 is the same ARM core I am using... 00.18.57 # okok :-) 00.18.59 # the vector table is the same on all of them 00.19.10 # so pick your favourite! 00.21.52 Join Nibbler [0] (n=Nibbler@91-65-154-140-dynip.superkabel.de) 00.21.59 # okok - I need to sleep now, will continue in next days :-) 00.22.15 # I am not alone now, there is another developer with the same board :-) 00.22.33 # if you would post patches, you'd get more help... 00.22.44 Quit _any1 ("Ping timeout") 00.23.20 # Bagder: all code is online, on SVN at code google 00.23.40 # that's not a patch though 00.23.59 # I and other developer, we are using the SVN... 00.24.26 # but we're hundreds of hundreds of Rockbox programmers 00.24.30 Quit Nibbler (Client Quit) 00.24.36 # and we tend to share our work as patches 00.25.01 # hmmm... I am not used to this :-) -- you know, I am really new to this world :-) 00.25.27 # right now I did deleted RB source code, from SVN 00.25.59 # I am not focus on this port, so would be a lot of work to merge the code and make patches... 00.26.13 # okokk 00.26.18 # thank you anyway :-) 00.26.21 # good night ;-) 00.26.23 Quit Casainho ("ChatZilla 0.9.83 [Firefox 3.0.1/2008072820]") 00.27.10 Join culture [0] (n=sam@cpc1-bele3-0-0-cust658.belf.cable.ntl.com) 00.32.02 Join Yondering [0] (n=Timo@pppoe-133-094.wcta.net) 00.32.36 Quit ender` (" Only thing made by Microsoft that wouldn't suck would be MS Vacuum Cleaner.") 00.34.28 Quit bluebrother ("leaving") 00.35.03 Join homielowe [0] (n=homielow@d207-81-80-78.bchsia.telus.net) 00.38.19 Join BigBambi [0] (n=Alex@rockbox/staff/BigBambi) 00.39.43 Join krazykit [0] (n=kkit@host-69-145-35-234.static.bresnan.net) 00.43.41 Quit Nico_P (Remote closed the connection) 00.46.05 Quit Yondering ("Leaving") 00.47.14 Quit massiveH ("Leaving") 00.47.54 Join fdinel [0] (n=Miranda@modemcable204.232-203-24.mc.videotron.ca) 00.57.07 Quit Schmogel ("Miranda IM! 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Any help is appreciated. 01.45.32 Join Rondom [0] (n=Rondom@p57A94B06.dip.t-dialin.net) 01.46.37 Quit Rondom (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 01.49.49 Quit lasser () 01.57.30 Join perrikwp [0] (i=98214a73@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-e96d08bcfd1c8aea) 02.02.39 Join ryanakca [0] (n=ryan@ubuntu/member/ryanakca) 02.03.26 Nick JdGordon|zzz is now known as JdGordon (n=jonno@rockbox/developer/JdGordon) 02.04.23 # Is there a plucker plugin for rockbox? A quick google search says no (despite a plugin request)... but it was only a quick search :) 02.05.22 # mcuelenaere: Found another STMP3600. http://www.maxfield.de/index.php?id=16&tx_maxproductslist_pi1[pro_uid]=131&L=0. Firmware files follow the same format as Gigabeat P/Sansa e100/Express. 02.09.05 Quit dabujo (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 02.11.00 # MarcGuay: did you download the ppt file ? 02.11.16 # toffe82: Couldn't figure out how!? 02.11.47 # I think it say that we have to wait to download it 02.14.32 # MarcGuay: it looks like there is 4 download :http://www.worldlingo.com/wl/services/S1790.5/translate?wl_srclang=zh_cn&wl_trglang=en&wl_rurl=http%3A%2F%2Fpassport.csdn.net%2FLoginPageSideColumns%2FLoginPageSideColumns.htm&wl_url=http%3A%2F%2Fdownload.csdn.net%2F 02.15.59 Quit stripwax (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 02.16.15 # MarcGuay: I think you have to register : http://www.google.com/translate?langpair=zh-CN|en&u=http://passport.csdn.net/UserLogin.aspx?from=http://d.download.csdn.net/down/231652/BeingHappy 02.16.57 Quit robin0800 (Remote closed the connection) 02.26.41 # MarcGuay: I try to register but I have problem , I will try later and let you know 02.26.55 Join Strife89 [0] (n=michael@204.116.245.152) 02.27.10 Part toffe82 02.27.46 Nick beta__ is now known as beta2k (n=beta@d150-126-240.home.cgocable.net) 02.30.54 Quit DerDome ("Leaving.") 02.37.12 Quit krazykit ("Connection reset by beer") 02.37.16 Quit massiveH ("Leaving") 02.40.28 Nick fxb is now known as fxb__ (n=felixbru@h1252615.stratoserver.net) 02.50.23 Part pixelma 02.51.34 Join pixelma2 [0] (n=marianne@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 02.56.09 Quit einhirn (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 03.07.05 Quit amiconn (Nick collision from services.) 03.07.11 Join amiconn [50] (n=jens@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 03.10.04 Join BHSPitMonkey [0] (n=stephen@pool-71-123-206-166.dllstx.fios.verizon.net) 03.17.31 Quit jhMikeS (Nick collision from services.) 03.17.37 Join jhMikeS [50] (n=jethead7@rockbox/developer/jhMikeS) 03.20.32 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 03.35.07 Join Llor_Phone [0] (n=Llorean@32.169.18.252) 03.41.17 Join jhulst [0] (n=jhulst@unaffiliated/jhulst) 03.47.19 Join Makuseru [0] (n=max@163.106.40.24.aeneasdsl.com) 03.50.37 Quit homielowe (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 03.50.57 Quit Makuseru (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 03.51.09 Join homielowe [0] (n=homielow@d207-81-80-78.bchsia.telus.net) 03.55.30 Quit Strife89 ("I'm going to bed..... 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Quick question if you have the time. 04.29.16 Quit Norrin (Client Quit) 04.29.23 Join Norrin [0] (n=4b84d09c@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-c60a0aba18b06a39) 04.30.13 Quit Norrin (Client Quit) 04.30.52 Quit miepchen^schlaf (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 04.31.46 # someone didnt read the guidelines :p 04.33.28 Join cool_walking_ [0] (i=cb3b81c3@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-5a6c4a0bdbe42844) 04.35.30 # I'm assuming the device support list is up to date. 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Searched FAQs and Forums and found no answers. 04.55.01 # Anyone? 04.56.26 # Norrin, just hold on.. some people are not at their computers 04.56.54 # Okay, sorry. 04.57.10 # Standing by. 05.01.10 Quit jeffdameth1 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 05.01.53 Quit XavierGr () 05.05.27 Part lukehasnoname 05.10.37 Join Seed [0] (n=ben@bzq-84-108-232-45.cablep.bezeqint.net) 05.16.05 Quit saratoga ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 05.16.33 Quit super () 05.20.34 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 05.22.55 # Still standing by. 05.24.51 # Norrin, you do not need to do that.. it will still be active 05.29.49 Quit Norrin ("KVIrc 3.4.0 Virgo http://www.kvirc.net/") 05.47.56 Quit Horscht ("I am root. If you see me laughing, you better have a backup") 05.49.57 Quit sbhsu_ ("leaving") 05.50.09 Join sbhsu [0] (n=a6530466@Zion.dorm.au.edu.tw) 06.14.25 Join rshakin [0] (i=rshakin@127.sub-70-213-89.myvzw.com) 06.15.52 Quit fdinel ("Miranda IM! 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I'm unsure as to the legality of it, but would also appreciate knowing the official project stance on the subject. 08.32.30 Quit MarcGuay ("ChatZilla 0.9.83 [Firefox 3.0.1/2008070208]") 08.32.52 Quit pixelma2 ("-") 08.33.06 Join pixelma [50] (i=pixelma@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 08.37.31 Part FugitivePrisoner 08.37.53 # JdGordon: Regarding the list bug: read-only lists have a problem with their current position 08.38.16 Quit setkeh ("Leaving") 08.39.05 # current position is meaningless for read only lists... 08.39.16 # It isn't for scrolling... 08.39.18 # Steps to reproduce: (1) Choose a large enough font so that the one of the read-only lists in the debug menu is longer than the screen (preferably at least twice as long). 08.39.54 # (2) Enter that list, and scrolldown a few steps. Use an arbitrary count, as long as you don't go down all the way 08.40.20 # (3) Press up *once*. 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You end up at the top... 08.42.17 # "View disk info" is a good candidate, since it is relatively long 08.42.57 # put it on flysrpay... i dont have time untill enxt week for this 08.49.20 Join sarixe [0] (n=sarixe@ool-435407e9.dyn.optonline.net) 08.50.05 Quit sarixe (Client Quit) 08.51.56 Join sarixe [0] (n=sarixe@ool-435407e9.dyn.optonline.net) 08.53.06 Join setkeh [0] (n=setkeh@CPE-121-219-44-20.vic.bigpond.net.au) 08.57.59 Join petur [50] (n=petur@rockbox/developer/petur) 08.58.35 Join Rob2223 [0] (n=Miranda@p4FDCF08C.dip.t-dialin.net) 09.00.11 Join bmbl [0] (n=Miranda@unaffiliated/bmbl) 09.00.18 Quit setkeh ("Leaving") 09.00.20 Join lasser [0] (n=f@Wa732.w.pppool.de) 09.03.18 Join goffa_ [0] (n=goffa@216.220.23.105) 09.05.19 Join Bagderr- [0] (n=daniel@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-2d10253991d64c87) 09.05.47 Nick Bagderr- is now known as B4gder (n=daniel@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-2d10253991d64c87) 09.09.29 Join ender` [0] (i=krneki@foo.eternallybored.org) 09.10.04 Join BigBambi [0] (i=86ceaf40@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-762ff6b91f145328) 09.11.14 Quit sarixe ("Ex-Chat") 09.14.38 Quit goffa (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 09.16.20 Join LinusN [0] (n=linus@rockbox/developer/LinusN) 09.16.28 Quit Rob2222 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 09.20.38 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 09.23.18 Join sarixe [0] (n=sarixe@ool-435407e9.dyn.optonline.net) 09.23.21 Quit miepchen^schlaf_ () 09.23.37 Join miepchen^schlaf [0] (n=miepchen@p579ECE71.dip.t-dialin.net) 09.28.04 # btw 09.28.10 # I'm thinking release 09.28.17 # Tue 23rd? 09.28.36 # around 23:00 CEST 09.31.51 Quit feisar ("leaving") 09.32.14 Join feisar [0] (i=jljhook@89.166.50.63) 09.32.40 # any immediate objections? 09.34.58 # looking for doc on the TCC7801 09.35.04 # some D2/P2 dev here ? 09.35.24 Join lamed [0] (n=55fa90c9@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-c45bd0200bc773f9) 09.37.34 # B4gder: still there ? 09.39.36 Quit lamed (Client Quit) 09.40.09 Nick JdGordon is now known as JdGordon|afk (n=jonno@rockbox/developer/JdGordon) 09.42.47 # I am 09.44.32 Quit havien_ ("Konversation terminated!") 09.45.20 # B4gder: have those file ? 09.46.22 # B4gder: thanks a lot 09.47.31 Join havien [0] (n=havien@68-189-143-101.dhcp.wlwl.wa.charter.com) 09.58.57 # B4gder: still there ? 09.59.35 # just ask your question(s) and you'll find out! 10.02.17 # B4gder: I'm also happy to hear that rockbox reached the level of no-need-to-explain-what-it-is-when-mentioned :) 10.02.17 # lol 10.02.36 # there were also a lot of tools 10.02.43 # whats rockbox? 10.02.45 # did you got those too ? 10.02.59 # havien: www.rockbox.org 10.03.16 # i know 10.03.19 # thephilosopher: I'm not aware of any useful tools in that collection 10.03.24 # just had to make a counterpoint to markun :) 10.03.32 # I thought so :) 10.03.33 # I think scorche missed the joke there 10.03.35 # :) 10.03.38 # >_> 10.03.46 # B4gder: ok i see i thought there were an sdk or something 10.03.57 # * scorche thought he heard a whooshing sound 10.04.01 # maybe device driver 10.04.15 # havien: it was in regard to this http://daniel.haxx.se/blog/2008/09/18/gdgt-2-said-rockbox/ 10.04.18 # doesn't sdk = "source code" for all intents and purposes 10.04.28 # thephilosopher: nope 10.05.29 # and for what it's worth, I don't want to be the hub of distributing tcc proprietary stuff to the world 10.06.40 # B4gder: understood 10.09.27 Join BigBambi_ [0] (i=86ceaf37@rockbox/staff/BigBambi) 10.18.27 # one of the main obstacles are the nand driver for the D2 (and probably P2 as well) 10.18.35 # s/are/is 10.26.11 Quit miepchen^schlaf () 10.33.18 # B4gder: yea i read that 10.34.06 Join AndyIL [0] (n=pasha_in@212.14.205.32) 10.34.10 Quit AndyI (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 10.35.42 Join einhirn [0] (i=Miranda@p5B030EF4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 10.35.58 Quit AndyIL (Client Quit) 10.36.36 Join AndyI [0] (n=pasha_in@212.14.205.32) 10.41.11 Quit AndyI (Client Quit) 10.42.45 Join AndyI [0] (n=pasha_in@212.14.205.32) 10.47.32 Topic "Ye bilge rats better be readin these marks before speaking lest ye be feedin that thar kraken: http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/IrcGuidelines | If ye be needin to speak about wenches, muskets, dabloons, and and other such nonsense, ye best be takin that to #rockbox-community | Yarrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!" by ChanServ (ChanServ@services.) 10.48.26 Quit linuxstb (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 10.51.17 # B4gder: Why not 22 Sep, 17:44 CEST (equinox)? 10.52.32 # hehe, a fine moment indeed but I can't make that time 10.58.57 Quit Siku (Nick collision from services.) 10.59.02 Join Siku [0] (n=Siku@e212-246-66-148.elisa-laajakaista.fi) 11.05.11 Quit thephilosopher (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 11.09.41 Join DerDome [0] (n=DerDome@dslb-082-083-220-161.pools.arcor-ip.net) 11.09.53 Quit Siku () 11.10.01 # gevaerts: did you set 0x3CF000F0 to 1 when you setup the LCD registers to try and display something? 11.10.55 Join Seed [0] (n=ben@bzq-84-108-232-45.cablep.bezeqint.net) 11.12.50 # denes: when you have some things working on your M3, can you send me a patch or put it in the tracker so we can commit it? 11.14.52 # denes: btw, what are you working on now? Still the display code, or the touch sensor? 11.18.53 # according to this site the M3 also uses the QT1106, so maybe it's indeed a timing problem: http://www.meizu.com/support/articleread.asp?articleid=446 11.20.40 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 11.22.45 Quit BigBambi_ ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") 11.23.09 Join BigBambi_ [0] (i=86ceaf37@rockbox/staff/BigBambi) 11.27.05 Join culture [0] (n=sam@cpc1-bele3-0-0-cust658.belf.cable.ntl.com) 11.28.26 Join Rondom [0] (n=Rondom@p57A95E3D.dip.t-dialin.net) 11.35.28 Join tvelocity [0] (n=tony@gw1.mycosmos.gr) 11.35.40 Join linuxstb [0] (n=linuxstb@rockbox/developer/linuxstb) 11.48.06 Join desowin [0] (n=desowin@atheme/member/desowin) 11.49.48 Quit ender` (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 11.50.21 Join ender` [0] (i=krneki@foo.eternallybored.org) 11.52.10 Join pixelma_ [50] (i=pixelma@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 11.54.00 Quit einhirn (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 11.54.08 Join voldemar [0] (i=voldemar@sa-84-52-43-23.saturn.infonet.ee) 11.54.35 Join J-23 [0] (n=aldwulf@a105.net128.okay.pl) 11.55.21 Quit UncleRemus (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 11.55.27 Join UncleRem1s [0] (n=caj@78-69-154-184-no176.tbcn.telia.com) 11.55.47 # Hello everybody! I have sansa c150 player and i want to install there a rockbox for sansa c100, so i have 2 questions: 1) Will it work? 2) how to make a backup of current firmware? dd if=/dev/sda of=backup.bin ? 11.56.15 # Rockbox c100 port isn't complete. 11.57.14 # ok, then i'll better wait until release. What about the backup? 11.58.17 # AFAIK you don't need to backup your firmware, because Rockbox just installs on the player without overwriting original firmware. 12.00.13 # there is said: To upgrade the firmware, the file player.rom needs to be copied to the root of the device. Upon reboot, the user is prompted to upgrade. If yes is selected, the firmware is upgraded and the file deleted from the FAT partition. A reboot is required to actually start the new firmware - the existing version will continue to run. Based on the observation that the existing firmware continues to run after a firmware update, 12.00.13 # it would seem that the firmware itself is executing from RAM, rather than executing in place from a ROM. 12.00.49 # well, it's copied to the root of the device... how then i restore if something goes wrong? 12.05.39 Quit pixelma (Nick collision from services.) 12.05.39 Nick pixelma_ is now known as pixelma (i=pixelma@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 12.07.05 Quit bmbl ("Woah!") 12.16.16 # will dd if=backup.bin of=/dev/sda work? 12.16.34 # or file transfering is handled by the firmware too? 12.17.33 # AFAIK file transfers are controlled by firmware. 12.25.34 Quit Darksair ("ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)") 12.42.43 # voldemar: The c100 hides parts of the disk from USB, so a "dd" doesn't do a full back. But you can't install on a c100 yet anyway - the port is still in the very early stages. 12.43.46 # An eventual Rockbox install will involve you writing a dual-boot "player.rom" to your device, and you will uninstall Rockbox by writing an unmodified player.rom. 12.43.55 Quit dan_a (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 12.44.11 # so it will be a dual-boot anyway? 12.44.17 # Yes. 12.44.18 # that's good 12.44.37 # how much size does the rockbox use on player? 12.44.46 # the minimal installation 12.44.54 # i mean firmware 12.45.21 # A few MB, I'm not sure exactly. 12.45.40 # ok 12.45.50 # You can download a build for another device and look for yourself - they are just zip files that you extract onto your player's filesystem. 12.46.15 # ok 12.46.40 # another question - i have c150, will the c100 rockbox work there? 12.48.42 # yes - we use c100 to desribe the entire c1xx range. 12.48.56 # ok 12.49.01 # thank you guys 12.55.03 # the last question: is there any way to 'rip' player.rom from the player? 12.56.23 Join MrHacks [0] (n=bushidoh@97-85-145-160.static.stls.mo.charter.com) 12.56.44 # Good Morning! 12.56.57 # MrHacks, hi! 12.57.26 # * MrHacks has an H100 question 12.58.09 # Then just ask it 12.58.39 Quit Rob2223 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 13.00.38 # I've had a good run with rb the past few days. But now I turn on the device and it is not turning on, or mounting. I have the remote attachment (which I have not been using lately) and tried to boot it up but the background light on the remote is the only thing that turns on. I've made several attempts to boot it and use the reset button on the bottom, but no luck. 13.01.08 # Is the battery charged? Have you tried with it on AC? 13.01.13 # In short, the light is on (the remote) but nobody is home. 13.01.17 # Fully charged 13.01.36 # Ah sorry, missed the bit about the remote backlight 13.01.58 # And the backlight on the main unit doesn't switch on at all? 13.02.31 # The remote has a smaller display, but one similar to the device. 13.02.44 # The main unit light does not turn on 13.02.50 # I know, I have a H100 13.03.12 # It sounds horribly hardware related 13.03.23 # it does. 13.04.21 # I think it stopped working when I plugged in my thumbdrive in the USB slot next to the one the cable connected to the device was plugged in. 13.04.47 # Maybe a surge then, but normally there should be protection against that 13.05.01 Quit Seed ("cu, Andre") 13.05.05 # But perhaps if the USB port was out of spec it could have killed it I suppose 13.06.12 # What I do know is that it is not bricked. If a light is on, it still must be working. 13.06.21 # LinusN is Mr. "Fix your iRiver H100 if you broke it" - but he's a) in sweden, and b) short on time. But perhaps if you asked very nicely he might volunteer to take a look. 13.06.42 # It might not be still working at all 13.07.21 # Many bits of hardware can break - The first thing that's get turned on might be the signal to remote backlight, and then it gets stuck initialising the USB chip or something 13.08.02 # * MrHacks plugs in the device to the AC charger. Green light is on. Remote light is off. 13.08.16 # Some lights on my dash come on in the car when I turn the key but that doesn't necessarily mean the engine will start 13.09.47 # * MrHacks presses play on the remote. Remote light back on. Remote light turns off after short delay from inactivity. 13.10.10 # That doesn't sound dead to me. 13.10.24 # It doesn't turn on though does it 13.10.40 # 13:06 BigBambi Many bits of hardware can break - The first thing that's get turned on might be the signal to remote backlight, and then it gets stuck initialising the USB chip or something 13.11.45 # linux boot disk, and lsusb? to see if the pid/uid changed by chance or if HAL can adapt to it? 13.12.10 # havien: ? 13.12.30 # If it won't turn on I don't see how lsusb will help 13.12.54 # ohh nm 13.12.59 # missed the remote light 13.13.03 # read it as back light 13.13.17 # It is a back light on the remote - it has a lcd 13.13.42 # But it is only the backlight, and not even the backlight on the main unit as well 13.13.46 # realized that afterwards 13.14.56 Join J-23_ [0] (n=aldwulf@a105.net128.okay.pl) 13.15.08 Quit J-23 (Nick collision from services.) 13.15.12 Nick J-23_ is now known as J-23 (n=aldwulf@a105.net128.okay.pl) 13.15.21 # bye 13.15.23 Quit voldemar ("Leaving") 13.18.30 Quit tvelocity (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 13.19.21 Join ender1 [0] (i=krneki@foo.eternallybored.org) 13.20.43 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 13.22.39 Join einhirn [0] (i=Miranda@bsod.rz.tu-clausthal.de) 13.22.44 # markun: no 13.24.57 # * MrHacks pressed the play button on the main unit. Remote light turns on. 13.26.09 Join Darksair [0] (n=user@221.221.158.7) 13.26.13 # * MrHacks tries to recall the command used for mounting devices 13.27.18 # mount 13.27.25 # :) 13.27.29 # usualy sudo 13.27.46 # what kind of device? 13.27.53 # H100 13.28.02 # brb, getting some breakfast 13.28.08 # any sata drives or other usb drives? 13.28.32 # Computer HD is SATA 13.28.44 # what ver of linux? 13.29.08 # dmesg shows what device names it is found as 13.29.09 # 2.6.25 Fedora 8 13.29.21 # x86_64 13.29.32 # should be... 13.29.39 Join LambdaCalculus37 [0] (n=LambdaCa@nmd.sbx09467.newyony.wayport.net) 13.29.41 # sudo mount /dev/sdb1 13.29.46 # although running 13.29.50 # ty 13.29.52 # sudo fdisk -l 13.30.03 # would tell you what devices you have 13.30.25 # sorry 13.30.29 # first one should be 13.30.43 # sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt/blah 13.30.52 Join tvelocity [0] (n=tony@195.167.65.108) 13.31.06 # havien: Could you put sentances on the same line? It makes it easier to read and doesn't clutter the logs. 13.31.41 # true trying to keep commands seperate from normal text. but i see when logging yea... 13.31.55 # havien: you can use quotes 13.32.06 # didn't occur to me at the time 13.32.17 # not a big problem :) 13.32.54 # hmm, how many things are there to do with e200v2 port? 13.33.46 # how many things? 13.33.53 # one! 13.33.55 # make rockbox run 13.33.57 # MrHacks it could be sdb1 sdc1 sdd1 sde1 13.34.00 # J-23: Haven't you asked this before? And wasn't the answer then still that progress is the in the thread in the forums, have a read of it? 13.36.24 Quit ender` (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 13.36.31 # J-23: The answer is not going to change overnight, you know/ 13.44.19 Join goffa [0] (n=goffa@216.220.23.105) 13.50.21 # gevaerts: I notice that it's set in the OF. Check page 511 of the manual. 13.50.50 # I'll check the M3 firmware to see if it's set to 1 by any chance 13.51.28 # eh, to 2 13.51.29 # and it is 13.51.42 # markun: I haven't actually done very much yet 13.54.09 # gevaerts: did you try to set any of the 39200000 registers? 13.54.15 # no 13.54.23 # ah, I thought you had 13.54.29 # ok buildmaster build table re-ordered 13.54.40 # sim normal bootloaders 13.54.45 # m68k arm sh 13.54.51 Quit goffa_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 13.55.14 Quit LambdaCalculus37 ("Do quit now, there's a demon around the corner!") 13.56.10 Join qianzheng_ [0] (n=qianzhen@58.37.193.156) 14.03.17 # what could be the use of "MOV R0, #0", "BIC R1, R1, R0". It does nothing, right? 14.11.45 Part B4gder 14.12.58 # moves #0 into R0 then binary compare of R1 to R0 i think 14.13.23 # * MrHacks starts to wonder if one of the quarters my H100 was sitting next to is counterfiet and is really a magnet covered in zinc. 14.18.02 Join Schmogel [0] (n=Miranda@p3EE217F4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 14.18.33 # havien: No, BIC is Bit Clear - in that case, "R1 := R1 AND NOT R0", so yes, it does nothing... 14.19.27 # markun: I would guess just a #define which happened to be zero, and the compiler didn't optimise it away 14.21.47 Quit amiconn (Nick collision from services.) 14.21.53 Join amiconn [50] (n=jens@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 14.22.31 # linuxstb: yes, could be. 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Thinking about protected data sheets specifically. 16.18.19 # copyrighted stuff which are not redistributable are illegal I guess 16.18.35 # unless the wiki is hosted in russia maybe 16.24.35 Join Siku [0] (n=Siku@e212-246-66-148.elisa-laajakaista.fi) 16.24.59 # If that's the case, I suppose the Datasheets wiki page could use a scrub. It's unfortunate given the wealth of information in there. 16.25.55 # things are illegal only once the police found it 16.29.37 Join XavierGr [0] (n=xavier@rockbox/staff/XavierGr) 16.32.46 Quit Nibbler ("Ex-Chat") 16.34.01 # funman: Does that fly as a policy, though? It would be nice to have one so that we can know when we're potentially putting someone (or ourselves) into a legal grey-area. 16.34.39 # I don't know much rockbox organization (if there is any) 16.35.22 Quit sarixe (Connection timed out) 16.36.56 # MarcGuay: I think the policy is generally that if the datasheets in question were publically available (e.g. on the manufacturer's website), then we mirror them on our wiki in case they ever disappear. But yes, strictly speaking, it's probably infinging copyrights. But afaik, no-one has ever complained. 16.37.24 # But as Bagder/Zagor/LinusN are responsible for the server, I would say it's their choice. 16.37.33 # * GodEater agrees 16.38.11 # linuxstb: As well as their legal liability? Any idea if the uploader/linker has any accountability? 16.38.25 # "ask a lawyer" ;) 16.38.31 # * linuxstb is not a lawyer 16.38.33 # if it's not for any profit there is no risk 16.38.36 Join {phoenix} [0] (n=dirk@p54B44E7A.dip.t-dialin.net) 16.38.45 # funman: That's far from true... 16.39.05 # linuxstb: do you know of any past events ? 16.39.58 # it also depends on the law in the country where our servers are.. so we would need to ask a swedish lawyer :-) 16.40.04 # funman: just because we make no money from it, does not mean we present no threat to businesses that own this information. We *can* hurt their bottom line, whether we charge for our work or not. 16.40.18 # toffe82: Any word on that PPT? 16.40.48 # GodEater: I just assume if it was problematic they would send a cease and desist letter and the files would be removed immediately 16.40.53 # in doubt, just leave them .. 16.42.01 # me personally, I think that's irresponsible - but it's not my server. 16.42.04 # I'm guessing Bagder et al think the datasheets are useful enough (and the risk is small enough) to keep them. 16.42.12 Join jgarvey [0] (n=jgarvey@cpe-098-026-069-229.nc.res.rr.com) 16.42.38 # some rules are needed: 16.42.42 # #1 don't speak about the datasheets 16.42.45 # #2 don't speak about the datasheets 16.43.02 # #3 don't speak about rules #1 and #2 16.43.12 # ;) 16.43.18 # Fair enough, that's good enough for me. 16.43.45 # is there a rockbox application to repair damaged headphones ? 16.43.59 # earphones* 16.44.01 # But seriously, I agree we should have a policy decision (from Bagder et al) 16.44.15 # funman: 128x64 / 8 ? 16.44.23 # lcd screen size 16.44.35 # 1 bit per pixel 16.44.45 # funman: I guess you're talking about the clip screen, but still, is it really only 1bit? 16.44.58 # yes it's monochrome 16.45.01 # I seem to remember the clip display even has colors 16.45.05 # bmp files were found in the of 16.45.07 # nope 16.45.14 # the top 32 lines are yellow 16.45.18 # and bottom 96 blue 16.45.29 # but I bet it's not software controllable ;) 16.45.42 # you can see the difference with the screen off 16.46.51 # ah that makes sense 16.47.11 # or maybe it's a bit less than 32, but that doesn't matter atm 16.47.32 # then we're probably better trying to edit the logo on a e200 first 16.47.53 # problem is me & atomikpunk only have clip 16.47.58 # btw, my fuze will probably replaced 16.48.50 # funman: time to buy a e200 then :D 16.48.55 # is it at the shop ? 16.49.05 # kugel: i resigned from work I need my € :'( 16.49.21 # funman: Are you sure about the clip's screen? I would think it more likely that the LCD hardware is colour, but to save RAM, the OF stores bitmaps as mono images? 16.49.27 # yes, it is. I got a mail today, which sounded like they replace it 16.50.00 # linuxstb: they do not use colors at any time in the OF 16.50.30 # and the top lines are _physically_ differents from the other 16.50.37 # it sounds more logical to me to use 1 2bit screen, instead of 1part 1bit blue and 1 part 1bit yellow 16.50.43 Join faemir [0] (n=quassel@88-106-209-242.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) 16.50.48 # but I don't know 16.51.06 # I think they use this trick for lower mem usage (monochrome only) 16.51.40 # judging from the pics at abi, there's a noticeable "line" 16.53.16 # linuxstb: I am not sure but I said I would bet, so "how much" ? :p 16.53.17 # funman: so, you need a minimal fat driver? How does the of load code? I guess there's a fat driver 16.53.31 # kugel: first I need access to nand :) 16.53.33 # linuxstb: IIRC it's not LCD, it's OLED 16.53.52 # funman: *given that you can access the nand 16.53.54 # * linuxstb decides to stop speculating and do some work 16.54.27 # kugel: I think yes or we can repartition it 16.54.43 # yes it's the simplest solution !! 16.54.49 # i'm stupid 16.55.07 # heh 16.55.28 # I just thought of accessing raw data at a fixed address instead of using a driver 16.55.46 # wouldn't that be possible? 16.55.56 # yes 16.57.46 Join Strife89 [0] (n=michael@204.116.245.152) 16.59.24 # Are there any plans yet for a definite release date for Release 3.0? 17.00.10 Join setkeh [0] (n=setkeh@CPE-121-219-44-20.vic.bigpond.net.au) 17.01.27 # Strife89: 23 September. 17.01.48 # Arr, that be me birthday! 17.02.40 Quit setkeh (Client Quit) 17.02.56 # Bagder: We need to make a birthday release for Strife89 now. ;) 17.03.23 Join funman_ [0] (n=fun@82-171-216-191.ip.telfort.nl) 17.04.44 # Wasn't 9/23/07 the day Rockbox was ported the the Sansas? 17.04.58 # That's when I got my c250. 17.05.41 # Strife89: A Rockbox port doesn't happen in a day... 17.06.00 # it's a long way 17.06.05 # I mean, when the port was finished. 17.06.10 # It was finished? 17.06.23 # I don't think it's possible to say which a port got started or when (if ever) it got finished 17.06.28 # Let me try again. 17.06.42 # which -> when 17.07.10 # Wasn't 9/23/07 the day that working Rockbox builds were made availible for the Sansas? 17.07.17 # 2007-03-11 was the day audio playback was announced for the e200 - that's when we consider a port becomes usable 17.07.19 Join toffe82 [0] (n=chatzill@h-74-0-180-178.snvacaid.covad.net) 17.07.50 # 2007-05-27 when non-britney_spears audio playback was announced 17.07.53 # Nothing interested happened on 2007-09-23 - http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/MajorChanges 17.08.12 # Strife89: According to http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/GentlemenMails the c200 first played sound on 2007-08-30. 17.08.47 # I must've read something wrong, then. 17.08.51 Quit petur ("connection reset by beer") 17.09.08 # I discovered Rockbox on 12/26/07 17.09.36 # MM/DD/YY 17.09.58 Quit funman (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 17.10.00 # Yes, we guessed that, but it's not a helpful format... 17.10.02 # Strife89: Well, the c200 port was first made available roughly around 23 Sep 2007. 17.10.13 # IIRC about a day or two before. 17.10.34 # THAT'S probably where I got the thought, then. 17.13.06 Nick funman_ is now known as funman (n=fun@82-171-216-191.ip.telfort.nl) 17.20.50 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 17.20.52 Quit Rondom ("Ex-Chat") 17.25.48 Quit funman ("leaving") 17.28.32 Join Llorean [0] (n=DarkkOne@m2b5336d0.tmodns.net) 17.29.22 Join Horscht [0] (n=Horscht@xbmc/user/horscht) 17.32.01 Join Nibbler [0] (n=Nibbler@e181071071.adsl.alicedsl.de) 17.32.57 Join Llorean1 [0] (n=DarkkOne@m2b5336d0.tmodns.net) 17.33.11 Quit Llorean (Nick collision from services.) 17.33.13 Nick Llorean1 is now known as Llorean (n=DarkkOne@m2b5336d0.tmodns.net) 17.34.49 Join Xerion_ [0] (n=xerion@cp198589-d.landg1.lb.home.nl) 17.36.42 Quit einhirn (brown.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 17.36.42 NSplit brown.freenode.net irc.freenode.net 17.36.42 Quit Xerion (brown.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 17.36.42 Nick Xerion_ is now known as Xerion (n=xerion@cp198589-d.landg1.lb.home.nl) 17.42.28 NHeal brown.freenode.net irc.freenode.net 17.42.28 NJoin einhirn [0] (i=Miranda@bsod.rz.tu-clausthal.de) 17.48.04 Join miepchen^schlaf [0] (n=miepchen@p579ECE71.dip.t-dialin.net) 17.49.14 Quit Zarggg (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 17.49.43 Join Zarggg [0] (n=z@65-78-69-194.c3-0.eas-ubr6.atw-eas.pa.cable.rcn.com) 17.50.03 Quit MarcGuay ("ChatZilla 0.9.83 [Firefox 3.0.1/2008070208]") 17.53.20 Quit einhirn (No route to host) 17.57.05 Quit desowin (Excess Flood) 17.59.27 Join Rob2222 [0] (n=Miranda@p4FDCD5BE.dip.t-dialin.net) 18.01.08 Join stripwax [0] (n=Miranda@87-194-34-169.bethere.co.uk) 18.03.33 # markun: have you looked at the OF LCD register settings in detail yet? 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My H100 is still alive. The screen is very faint. It is stuck in the bootloader. 19.08.44 Join aerohawk [0] (i=3b5e0939@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-690c99bb6db03d60) 19.09.55 Part aerohawk 19.11.26 # The message on the screen: "I00 at 40102004" 19.11.46 # Tried booting it up again, it dies when I let go of play. 19.11.52 # The message on the screen: "I00 at 40102008" 19.11.58 # that is a new message 19.13.06 # The LCD is doing all this goofy stuff when I hold play and push the center of the joy stick 19.13.24 # "*PANIC* Hx" 19.13.56 # "I00 at 40102008" 19.15.36 # Sorry, we're not ignoring you or anything...... 19.15.56 # We're all talking about food on #rockbox-community. :) 19.16.05 # oh 19.16.32 # well, I guess I can come back later and let you know what happens. :-) 19.18.00 # Hang on.... 19.19.52 # I think it may be the power system. It feels warm when I plug it in. 19.20.32 # "I00 at 40102000" 19.20.41 # "I00 at 40102004" 19.20.52 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 19.21.02 # MrHacks: If you want to, you can also check out the Misticriver forums for some information. Maybe someone there may have some advice on what's going on with your H100. 19.21.20 # do you have a link? 19.21.42 # http://www.misticriver.net/forums/ 19.21.53 # thx 19.21.59 # Sorry, no one here seems to be able to help right now. You can come by later if you'd like. 19.22.28 # plan to. Thanks, Lamb 19.23.23 Join saratoga [0] (n=9803c6dd@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-a20b8fa0b1373125) 19.23.49 # how do people feel about commiting the MP3 sythesis on COP patch? 19.24.07 # it seems to be quite stable for me, and no errors have been reported 19.24.28 # saratoga: As long as the build table's green and clean... ;) 19.24.58 # saratoga: I'm in favour 19.25.22 Join vitja [0] (n=vitja@79.120.98.174) 19.25.51 Join J-23_ [0] (n=aldwulf@a105.net128.okay.pl) 19.25.53 Part J-23 19.25.54 # hehe ep0 worked ;) 19.26.06 Nick J-23_ is now known as J-23 (n=aldwulf@a105.net128.okay.pl) 19.27.23 Part scotty_007 19.27.46 Join funman [0] (n=fun@82-171-216-191.ip.telfort.nl) 19.27.50 Join Horschti [0] (n=Horscht@p4FD4EA62.dip.t-dialin.net) 19.28.34 Quit Horscht (Nick collision from services.) 19.29.03 Join bertrik [0] (n=bertrik@ip117-49-211-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl) 19.34.06 Join {phoenix} [0] (n=dirk@p54B44E7A.dip.t-dialin.net) 19.34.57 # actually, it might be nice to get it working on all PP targets before committing 19.35.21 # right now it only works on the 128k IRAM players just because I haven't gotten around to figuring out how to save 2KB of IRAM 19.36.23 Join fragilematter [0] (n=barbu_do@92.81.238.157) 19.38.36 Join rshakin [0] (i=rshakin@89.sub-75-213-83.myvzw.com) 19.39.20 # is there a plugin to read books or text files on rockbox 19.40.39 Join bughunter2 [0] (n=Jelle@77.164.66.126) 19.41.25 Quit Strife89 (""Bye, guys. See ya'll around!"") 19.41.34 # rshakin: If by read you mean you do the reading, then yes there is a text viewer. If you mean read as in read it to you (text to audio) then no 19.42.04 # rshakin: If you mean an ebook viewer, then no, there isn't one. 19.42.54 # Unless it is text 19.44.12 # ok cool, well simple text viever will do 19.44.23 Join sylfr [0] (n=sylvain@ABordeaux-257-1-146-75.w90-60.abo.wanadoo.fr) 19.44.38 # Hi all ! 19.44.48 # I try to install rockbox on a 5G ipod 19.44.55 # can some one help me ? 19.45.02 # sylfr: Have you looked at the manual? 19.45.19 # No really 19.45.29 # Then please do 19.45.34 # It was written for a reason 19.45.36 # I tried to isntall iPodLinux several times, but i can't 19.45.41 # Yes, i know. 19.45.45 # This isn't ipodlinux 19.45.48 # I just wanna Ask a question 19.46.02 # Please do 19.46.16 # I heard that with rockbox, you dont need partitionning, is it real ? 19.46.27 # That is true, 19.46.41 # but your ipod needs to be a winpod - i.e. fat32 formatted, not mac 19.46.43 Join fragilematter_ [0] (n=barbu_do@92.82.103.57) 19.47.15 # OK, well, my iPod is fat32, 5G 19.47.24 # it would work ? im gonna try 19.47.33 # Then you are good to go - the manual contains full instructions 19.47.34 Quit Darksair ("ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)") 19.47.42 # Yes, im gonna read it 19.47.50 # I stay it for any other question. 19.47.51 Join perrikwp|work [0] (i=982132f4@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-ef84a9e6340bb0bb) 19.47.53 # Please make sure you read it - you won't be very popular if you ask questions that it answers :) 19.47.57 # Thank you ! 19.48.05 # no probs 19.48.08 # This tool makes installation easier: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/RockboxUtility 19.48.22 # LambdaCalculus37: It is also linked from the manual... 19.48.26 Join mmiller_ [0] (n=46a72d7a@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-d3e4c344f9ecb45f) 19.48.40 # I think it would be better to get to it via the manual, as the manual explains other things too 19.49.56 # BigBambi: That's true. 19.50.12 # toffe82: FYI, the problem with my gigabeat was that the USB cannot charge it if the battery is completely empty. I used an AC charger, and everything works fine. However, I did try booting it with the battery off, and it didn't work. I might see about submitting a patch for that. 19.50.33 # mmiller_: With the battery switch off? 19.50.49 # Yes, with the battery switch off. 19.50.50 # I believe that that completely cuts power - nothing we can do about it 19.51.07 # (disclaimer: I might be talking rubbish here) 19.51.27 # It even cuts AC power? I'm able to turn it the battery switch off while it's running, but I can't boot with it turned off. 19.51.35 # ah OK 19.51.44 # Well, as I say I'm not sure 19.51.54 Quit fragilematter (Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)) 19.52.10 # But either way, as Rockbox is at the moment the Toshiba bootloader runs first, so there is nothing in Rockbox you can do 19.52.14 Nick fragilematter_ is now known as fragilematter (n=barbu_do@92.82.103.57) 19.52.34 # I think someone is working on replacing that altogether with a flashed rockbox one, but I don't know quite where that is 19.53.52 # Actually, rockbox boots and shows the low power message. I think the issue is that firmware/powermgmnt.c checks for low battery (calling sys_poweroff) but doesn't take into account that it may have AC power. 19.54.14 # mmiller_: OK, I thought you meant it wouldn't turn on at all 19.54.22 # In that case, then yes, go for it :) 19.54.49 # Great, I'll take a look into it. 19.58.58 Quit mmiller_ ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 20.00.51 Join linuxstb [0] (n=linuxstb@rockbox/developer/linuxstb) 20.01.12 Quit EspeonEefi ("さよなら") 20.05.22 Quit miepchen^schlaf () 20.10.20 Join guest1 [0] (n=5ae10c39@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-cbccaf67e128f112) 20.10.48 # doesnt rockbox work with iPod nano 2G? 20.11.02 # No 20.11.06 # why? 20.11.08 # not if 2G means 2nd gen 20.11.14 # yes 2 gen 20.11.25 # guest1: Because no one has done the hige amounts of work it would take 20.11.29 # *huge 20.11.32 # okay 20.11.39 # It is encrypted, new hardware, undocumented, .... 20.11.51 # is there any customization i can do to the ipod nanos firmware at all? 20.11.56 # i understand 20.12.03 # I don't know, but that is off topic here 20.12.14 # You should ask Google. 20.12.15 # yeah ... i guess it is sorry 20.12.27 # thanks for your time! 20.12.27 Quit scorche (Connection timed out) 20.12.31 # no problem 20.12.54 Quit guest1 (Client Quit) 20.16.55 Quit {phoenix} (Remote closed the connection) 20.19.04 Join Zarggg [0] (n=z@65-78-69-194.c3-0.eas-ubr6.atw-eas.pa.cable.rcn.com) 20.19.40 Quit perrikwp|work ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") 20.24.38 Join tvelocity [0] (n=tony@195.167.65.111) 20.29.19 Join ompaul [0] (n=ompaul@gnewsense/friend/ompaul) 20.32.52 Join w1ll14m [0] (n=b21wdsSS@84-104-82-30.cable.quicknet.nl) 20.37.58 Join scorche [0] (i=Blah@rockbox/administrator/scorche) 20.41.29 Join EspeonEefi [0] (i=espeonee@STRATTON-THREE-SEVENTY.MIT.EDU) 20.54.14 Quit BigBambi (Remote closed the connection) 20.54.31 Join mmiller_ [0] (n=45290e97@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-3a802e17d97b19af) 20.54.48 Quit mmiller_ (Client Quit) 20.55.49 Quit gevaerts (Nick collision from services.) 20.55.58 Join gevaerts [0] (n=fg@rockbox/developer/gevaerts) 20.56.32 Join shotofadds [0] (n=rob@rockbox/developer/shotofadds) 20.56.51 Join einhirn [0] (i=Miranda@p5B03258A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 20.57.11 Join BigBambi [0] (n=Alex@rockbox/staff/BigBambi) 20.58.21 Join thephilosopher [0] (n=chatzill@modemcable108.47-58-74.mc.videotron.ca) 20.58.55 Join n17ikh|Lappy [0] (n=n17ikh@130-127-73-84.lightsey.resnet.clemson.edu) 21.00.24 Quit sbhsu (Remote closed the connection) 21.00.39 # looking for information on the TCC78 (D2 and P2) 21.07.03 Quit stoffel_ ("leaving") 21.07.53 Join goffa_ [0] (n=goffa@216.220.23.105) 21.08.39 Nick fxb__ is now known as fxb (n=felixbru@h1252615.stratoserver.net) 21.10.24 Join Schmogel [0] (n=Miranda@p3EE217F4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 21.12.06 Quit thephilosopher (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 21.14.18 Join TheDeadAngel666 [0] (n=TheDeadA@55.244.198-77.rev.gaoland.net) 21.14.44 Join thephilosopher [0] (n=chatzill@modemcable108.47-58-74.mc.videotron.ca) 21.15.15 # Hie all, It's possible to install (or compile) Rockbox on Vibe 500 of Packard Bell? (scuse me for my approximatly english.. i'm french...) 21.15.35 # TheDeadAngel666: no 21.16.01 # It's not possible? or it's not "test" ? 21.16.48 # It is not possible 21.16.59 # Audio players are not like PCs. They are all different 21.17.00 # And don't worry about being French, you'll get over it :) 21.17.19 # it gets better over time 21.17.20 # worry? 21.17.36 # ne t'inquiète pas 21.17.47 # Thank's funman 21.18.40 # I search an alternative 'os' for my player... It 's very quickly... 21.19.02 # sorry :/ 21.19.47 # No one is working on a port to the Vibe 500. 21.19.49 # not* very... 21.19.51 Quit thephilosopher (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 21.20.05 # merci quand même 21.20.10 # de rien 21.20.14 # lot of thanks 21.20.32 # not very serious or urgent. 21.20.54 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 21.21.24 # thanks and goodbye.. See you later 21.21.43 Part TheDeadAngel666 ("Yes, No... Maybe.... I don't know... Can you repeat the question?...") 21.22.20 Quit goffa (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 21.23.17 Quit lasser () 21.27.22 # saratoga: You also need to make sure mpa.codec still compiles & works on single core 21.27.38 # Last time I checked, the patch didn't do that 21.29.43 # amiconn: the latest version seemed to work fine for me 21.29.45 # when did you test? 21.32.11 # Quite some time ago, before it started working in test_codec 21.32.17 # ah ok 21.32.53 # i'll probably try and get it working on my dying 3G and then commit it 21.33.29 Join robin0800 [0] (n=robin080@cpc2-brig8-0-0-cust394.brig.cable.ntl.com) 21.35.30 Quit robin0800 (Remote closed the connection) 21.35.48 Join robin0800 [0] (n=robin080@cpc2-brig8-0-0-cust394.brig.cable.ntl.com) 21.41.29 Join krazykit [0] (n=kkit@host-69-145-35-234.static.bresnan.net) 21.41.52 Join goffa [0] (n=goffa@216.220.23.105) 21.49.53 Part J-23 21.53.16 Quit goffa_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 21.58.25 # * amiconn noticed yesterday that rockbox has a fundamental bug in filesystem handling on non-hotplug targets wrt usb 21.59.20 Quit LambdaCalculus37 ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") 21.59.27 # The filesystem is remounted after usb, which is correct, but open files are not closed by force 21.59.54 # haha, awesome topic :) 21.59.56 # This might cause all sorts of filesystem corruption after usb mode 22.00.01 # Are there open files at that point? 22.00.12 # dionoea: \o 22.00.23 # (i don't have a parrot smiley) 22.00.25 # There can be open files, depending on target 22.00.46 # amiconn: can't you close all fd at unmounting ? 22.00.57 # funman: hey funman. So, how's the SD/fat bootloader driver going? 22.01.09 # still a dream 22.01.10 # funman: We can, but we don't do so right now 22.01.50 # oh oh 22.02.03 # I just found something that could transform the dream in a short time 22.02.04 # gevaerts: *usually* there shouldn't be any, because threads should close them before acknowledging usb 22.02.14 # fragilematter: ? 22.02.25 # amiconn: yes, that's what I was thinking 22.02.50 # But then "should" isn't an enforcement 22.03.38 # funman: ? 22.03.58 # can you look something in your firmware ? 22.04.01 # The Ondio keeps the voice file open and loads clips on demand (for speed reasons), and I'm not so sure the file is closed before usb 22.04.09 # first check out the firmware size: xxd x.bin|head -2 22.04.11 # (voice has no separate thread on hwcodec) 22.04.18 # it's the before-last group of 4 hex digits 22.04.27 # for me "28d2" "0100" 22.04.33 # (0x1d228 bytes) 22.04.43 # and xxd x.bin|grep "28d2" 22.04.51 # This file is only open for reading, so no fs corruption should result from it, but it could confuse the talk code 22.04.56 # count how much references you have to "28d2 0100" 22.05.13 # not including 0x0 and 0x200 because they are the header and we know them already 22.05.32 # indeed. Best to enforce it I guess 22.05.41 # 0000010: 0300 0000 5024 0000 4000 [0000 0100] 0000 ....P$..@....... 22.05.50 # I guess you're talking about those between [] 22.06.09 # hm no 22.06.12 # the first line 22.06.25 # 0000000: 0000 0000 4a90 ec30 ed00 0000 1cd8 0100 ....J..0........ 22.06.32 # 1cd8 22.06.41 # Enforcing it would reveal files which stay open when they shouldn't 22.06.41 # your rom file is 0x1d81c bytes 22.07.44 # Yes. It's probably a good idea to add some logf()s there 22.08.34 # there are probably about 60-70 lines... excluding the offsets that include 1cd8 22.09.49 # hum count only the ones followed by '0100' 22.09.53 # 7 22.10.02 Quit tvelocity (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 22.10.14 # including 0x0 and 0x200 22.11.09 # hm 22.11.16 # I see 6 includign them 22.11.24 # can you check the offsets in disassembled code and see how it looks like ? 22.11.40 # ah no 7 also 22.11.41 # ! 22.11.47 # the 2 firsts: header 22.11.59 # 3rd: it's used as a starting offset by OF to memset(0) 22.12.12 # 4th : i don't understand I don't see it being used after being loaded 22.12.22 # 5th/6th in the middle of nowhere; not referenced .. 22.12.30 # 7th: gonna check :P 22.13.17 # 7th same: in the middle of nowhere 22.13.42 # can you modify mkamsboot to replace these offsets by the 'new' firmware size ? 22.13.51 # first is a sub in my disassembly 22.14.05 # did you substract 0x400 to the offsets ? 22.14.15 # i rushed 22.14.38 Join Nico_P [50] (n=nicolas@rockbox/developer/NicoP) 22.14.46 Join {phoenix} [0] (n=dirk@p54B4682D.dip.t-dialin.net) 22.15.13 # while(size_in_words--) if(buf[size_in_words] == old_size) buf[size_in_words] = new_size; 22.15.29 # also you should put a counter and assert 7 occurences 22.15.39 # or 5 if you skip header 22.16.03 # you're talking about stuff above and beyond my programming skills :D 22.16.25 # :/ 22.16.42 # I make a new patch 22.16.58 # the first occurence is in the first piece of code being executed on startup 22.18.06 # second in a sub that has something to do with CreateTaskFileSystem 22.18.10 # exact 22.18.14 # but i don't see it being used after 22.18.23 Quit perrikwp ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") 22.18.31 # it's given on the stack 22.18.33 # 2nd argument 22.18.48 # yep 22.19.05 # at an offset + a variable (var18 in my code) 22.19.51 # 3rd is in the middle of nowhere 22.20.10 Join tvelocity [0] (n=tony@195.167.65.109) 22.21.01 # 4th is at 0x10 after the 3rd, they're between 0 padding 22.21.02 Quit jgarvey ("Leaving") 22.22.33 # and the 5th someplace weird - lots of 0es and some hex values 22.23.30 # http://paste.ubuntu.com/48401/ can you try that ? 22.23.37 # fragilematter: yes it may be in a data segment 22.23.45 # without 'close' code 22.24.29 # http://paste.ubuntu.com/48401/plain/ shorter (tabs preserved) 22.24.59 # the patch is for the vanilla ams utils, right? 22.25.08 # yes 22.25.22 # with svn i can't do diff-to-diff :( 22.25.39 # there is a git repository for rockbox on repo.cz but I think it's outdated 22.26.13 # when we start coding we should open a git tree to synchronize all of us before proposing a patch for rockbox 22.28.48 Quit MethoS- (Remote closed the connection) 22.30.47 # now updating 22.30.55 # and yes it did call memmove 22.31.52 Join bluebrother [0] (n=dom@rockbox/staff/bluebrother) 22.32.23 # it booted and it's working 22.32.55 # \o/ ? 22.33.08 # shall I do this to my clip now .. :/ 22.33.20 # no 22.33.22 # Calling memmove(buf + 0x00020200,buf + 0x0001de00,0x00edfe00) 22.33.24 # atomicpunk first he has 2 :) 22.33.37 # fragilematter: and what if you try with 0x100 instead of 0xff ? 22.33.37 # 2 boots in a row and working fine ;) 22.33.48 # line ~185 22.34.10 # and ~265 (2 times) 22.34.12 # hmm... let's hope I won't have to pop the lid off again to unbrick it :D 22.34.27 # the rom size is 128kB so it should 'just fit' 22.35.06 Quit ompaul (Nick collision from services.) 22.35.24 # 0x200 * 0xff => 0x200 * 0x100 22.35.28 # that would leave us with ~8kB still small but nearly 10 times bigger ! 22.35.34 # yes it's the first occurence 22.35.41 Join ompaul [0] (n=ompaul@gnewsense/friend/ompaul) 22.36.06 # /* Update firmware block count */ 22.36.07 # put_uint32le(&buf[0x08], 0xff); 22.36.07 # put_uint32le(&buf[0x208], 0xff); <- both of these 22.36.13 # yup 22.37.03 # Calling memmove(buf + 0x00020400,buf + 0x0001de00,0x00edfc00) 22.37.15 # yarrr ahr 22.37.59 # was that supposed to be pirate speak matey or you spotted an enemy ship? 22.38.26 # it meant "quick reboot it !!" 22.38.43 # listen to one song and plug it back on usb to see if all is right 22.39.02 # flashing now :P 22.39.05 # quick flash too 22.39.36 Join m0f0x [0] (n=m0f0x@189-47-17-121.dsl.telesp.net.br) 22.39.40 # cool logo animation, familiar blue sansa... 22.39.41 Join dany_21a [0] (n=dan@84-119-0-202.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at) 22.39.42 # * funman sweats 22.40.06 # * funman barfs 22.40.10 # doctor, the patient is alive 22.40.18 # what's the heartbeat ? 22.40.29 # should be 250000000 pulsations per second 22.40.35 # ~250Mhz when it's breaking a sweat 22.40.48 # :)) 22.40.53 Quit Schmogel (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 22.41.27 # i'll tweak the patch a little and post it on the forum 22.41.38 # great 22.45.44 # Maximum bootloader size: 8356 bytes 22.46.02 # better than 1K :)) 22.47.35 # yes but I don't have anything useful to fill this space :( 22.47.42 # where did the extra space come from? 22.47.55 # end of the ROM, after the OF 22.48.20 Quit EspeonEefi (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 22.48.30 # so you could append it to the file or fill out some padding? 22.48.35 # I have posted the diff on the forum so someone tries it on a "brickable" device 22.48.38 # confirmed and working on e200v2 until now :) 22.48.43 # Bagder: relocating the whole file 22.48.53 Join homielowe [0] (n=homielow@d207-81-80-78.bchsia.telus.net) 22.49.00 # oh and we delete what's at the end of the file .... we should really check that ... 22.49.05 # cool, so why is it limited to 8356 bytes? 22.49.10 # rom is 128kb 22.49.14 # kB* 22.49.20 # rom yes 22.49.22 # 128kB - OF size 22.49.29 # as in read only memory 22.49.43 # as the only memory we can write with a firmware upgrade, and then access at boot 22.49.46 # as in firmware without libraries 22.49.47 # is that a nor flash you mean? 22.50.04 # I don't know which hardware it is exactly 22.50.11 # it's on the nor before the filesystem on e200v2 22.50.12 # but I know that's the only place we can store and run code 22.50.17 # nope 22.50.19 # wouldn't it be better to post patches to the tracker and link to the task instead? 22.50.21 # it's also there 22.50.23 # I find referring to something as "rom" rather... 80s-style ;-) 22.50.28 # bluebrother: i have posted one already 22.50.38 # hum which other word then? 22.50.49 # the 'magical' chip :p 22.50.56 # roms tend to be unmodifyable after factory 22.51.10 # hence the "ro" 22.51.35 # modern designs usually have flash memories 22.51.46 # the datasheet mentions ROM 22.52.01 # yes, and I believe it refers to a rom 22.52.15 # are you sure the OF gets stored in that on upgrade? 22.52.33 # "mask programmable ROM" 22.52.40 # ah 22.52.45 # yes i'm sure 22.52.53 # I tried writing to the memory area at boot and I can not 22.52.54 # then it probably is! 22.53.03 # it's a nor flash ? 22.53.18 # ie ROM as "usually ROM except when you write to it" 22.54.39 # "ROM contains the following: bootloader." 22.54.59 # yes, it says nothing about it being a flash 22.55.06 # so I stand corrected 22.55.52 # what ever it is, it's a 128kB read only memory area we can modify 22.56.01 # read only at runtimeù* 22.56.05 Join beta2k_ [0] (n=beta@d150-126-240.home.cgocable.net) 22.57.10 # but that is a bootloader code that loads OF from "disk", right? 22.57.27 # so it could also be possible to change the parts that are loaded by that loader 22.58.08 # it could but that require a lot of RE 22.58.09 # on the nand dumps that I've made there is the OF then, after ~30MB we have a standard fat header 22.58.31 # and I think lower amount of RE is needed to get a nand driver 22.58.51 # we have located the interesting areas already 22.59.01 # we just need more time to read and re read and re re read it ;) 22.59.11 # why would that take more RE? 22.59.23 # it is higher level 22.59.37 # r 22.59.41 # erm 22.59.43 # RE? 22.59.43 # and then more used I gess 22.59.54 Join merbanan [0] (n=banan@83.233.242.130) 22.59.57 # while the low level driver is more condensed 23.00.02 # ameyer: Reverse Engineering 23.00.05 # ahh 23.00.19 # * ameyer should have understood that 23.00.21 # there will be point that gets executed where a switch could be ibjected 23.00.23 # exactly like you've done in the rom parts 23.00.27 # just a different spot 23.00.38 # yes I see .. 23.00.48 # Hi ! 23.00.52 # but the library blocks use several references to the "ROM" part 23.00.55 # and the inverse is true also 23.01.03 # so we may destroy the "initialisation" function pointer 23.01.06 # I just installed RockBox on my iPod, it rocks 23.01.11 # and when the block loads, it crashes 23.01.17 # And I "RTFM" :D 23.01.19 # + we end with already initialised OF 23.01.44 # But I just don't find : how I can use CD covers with rockbox ? where I must put them ? 23.01.49 # Someone knows ? 23.01.52 # that was the first solution I think but looking more into it it was forgotten 23.02.08 # sylfr: I don't know but I think it must be in the manual or the wiki 23.02.16 # sylfr: check the wiki for AlbumArt 23.02.34 # bluebrother: OK, i'm gonna do it, thanks 23.02.45 # * bluebrother checks ... yep, the page name is even exactly AlbumArt 23.02.48 # Bagder: the OF doesn't load a code block and branch to it 23.02.54 # it loads a "mp3 decoder" 23.02.57 # or a "ogg decoder" 23.03.02 # or "wma drm handler" 23.03.12 # oh so the "loader" is the entire firmware then basically? 23.03.23 # so there is a lot more to understand on the library block format 23.03.33 # ok, then I understand a lot more. thanks 23.03.35 # yes in part 23.03.41 # it does implement other basic functions 23.03.41 # If I have a fixedpoint fft routine with Qx.y notation, how do I identify x and y just by looking at the assembly ? 23.03.46 # you are welcome ;) 23.03.59 # I think if I had come when the firmware format was not figured yet I would have given up 23.04.13 # so thanks to you and the others who started this work 23.04.20 # :-) 23.04.56 # that's still no excuse for bricking 3 of my players :'( 23.05.23 Quit sarixe ("Ex-Chat") 23.05.23 # eh I did it on purpose so that's my problem ;) 23.06.47 # Bagder: now that I hold you, have you worked on sansav1 nand / sd driver ? 23.07.32 # Hm, the page is : http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/AlbumArt 23.07.33 # It doesn't look very nice, but so complicated 23.07.44 # Nevermind, it's not very important 23.07.49 # Tanks ! 23.07.59 # *Thanks of course 23.08.16 # funman: no I didn't do much on that, I think dan_a was involved though 23.08.26 # ah nice 23.08.48 # you saw this doc, right? http://daniel.haxx.se/sansa/NAND_interface.txt 23.08.57 # it explains the e200v1 setup 23.08.58 # right 23.09.17 # I did not read the full content but I got the concept 23.09.27 # indeed Daniel Ankers is dan_a 23.10.02 # I asked you because it was on your site 23.10.39 # with 8kB room we can write code in C also ;) 23.10.59 # no more "shitiforgottopushlr" 23.11.07 # haha 23.11.10 Join {-phoenix-} [0] (n=dirk@p54B4682D.dip.t-dialin.net) 23.11.18 Quit {phoenix} ("Verlassend") 23.11.42 Nick {-phoenix-} is now known as {phoenix} (n=dirk@p54B4682D.dip.t-dialin.net) 23.12.11 # step debugging with 1 minute between each steps is exhausting :s 23.14.40 # what's at the end of the file looks random 23.14.42 Join AndyIL [0] (n=pasha_in@212.14.205.32) 23.14.47 # maybe we should mesure entropy to be sure? 23.15.28 Join massiveH [0] (n=massiveH@ool-44c48a1e.dyn.optonline.net) 23.15.39 Quit beta2k (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 23.15.50 Quit homielowe () 23.17.46 Quit bluebrother ("leaving") 23.20.56 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 23.22.01 Quit bmbl ("Woah!") 23.22.16 Part sylfr 23.22.32 # Bagder: do I remember correctly that the bounce plugin is yours? 23.22.34 Join moos [0] (n=moos@81-66-128-18.rev.numericable.fr) 23.22.50 # yes, well I am the original author at least 23.22.57 Quit Seed ("cu, Andre") 23.24.09 Join FugitivePrisoner [0] (n=tfarides@ool-182d8639.dyn.optonline.net) 23.25.41 Quit AndyI (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 23.25.56 # hmm... not sure if it's your bug then ;) ...but maybe you would like to look into it and if it's a quick fix... I noticed that on colour targets first the clock and the "Rockbox" line is drawn in the user set foreground colour, but if you switch to the other mode and back - it is drawn in black. That looks a bit weird on the dark default background now... 23.27.36 # the colorization of it was done by someone else, I did it b/w! ;-) 23.27.51 # I see 23.29.40 Quit culture ("Ex-Chat") 23.32.40 # well it's not exactly random 23.32.57 # I see much more occurences to 0-127 (ascii) values but no concrete strings 23.33.58 Join EspeonEefi [0] (i=espeonee@STRATTON-THREE-SEVENTY.MIT.EDU) 23.36.01 Nick fxb is now known as fxb__ (n=felixbru@h1252615.stratoserver.net) 23.36.15 Join culture [0] (n=sam@cpc1-bele3-0-0-cust658.belf.cable.ntl.com) 23.39.16 Join perrikwp [0] (i=4aa794a0@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-6da2d54a29c24788) 23.45.25 Quit XavierGr (Nick collision from services.) 23.45.36 Join XavierGr [0] (n=xavier@rockbox/staff/XavierGr) 23.48.07 Quit ender1 (" I know you think you understand what you thought I said, but I am not sure that what you heard is not what I meant.") 23.51.01 Quit krazykit ("Connection reset by beer") 23.51.17 # funman: just read the recent thread-posts for the sansaV2 - have been busy lately... but now i have some time, if you have something i could test on a e200 just tell me what... no problem if i "brick" it (can easily unbrick) 23.52.18 # dany_21a: thanks, now we need to test something on the sansa clip, but afaik there's nothing else at the moment 23.52.42 # are you "the" daniel_at ? 23.53.29 # ah yes there is a test: just write a bootloader which fits in 1kB ;) 23.53.40 # okay... if something will fit for the e200, just post at the thread 23.54.02 # funman: yes... thats my nick at the forum 23.54.10 # ok :) 23.54.49 # I expect atomikpunk to come on irc in some minutes 23.55.08 Join LambdaCalculus37 [0] (n=LambdaCa@c-24-0-218-198.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) 23.55.52 # okay... maybe ill just play a bit around and try to update myself to the recent findings 23.57.04 # did you light your button led yet ? ;) 23.57.41 # no...havent played with my sansa for weeks - maybe that would be a nice experiment 23.57.52 Join BigBambi__ [0] (n=Alex@5.189.72-86.rev.gaoland.net)