--- Log for 21.09.108 Server: brown.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: @logbot Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 19 days and 18 hours ago 00.00.40 # OK, import duties :) 00.00.46 # is it possible to figure out the version without actually having physical access to the player, i.e. any serial number on the box 00.00.52 # No 00.02.47 # ok thanks 00.03.19 Part Llorean 00.05.47 Join webguest40 [0] (n=485e753a@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-dca5a5510d41532b) 00.06.21 # andi__: the seller i bought from wrote the firmware number in the article description. and both my v2 (which i returned to amazon) and my v1 had a working hardware radio 00.08.23 # hey does anyone know how to get pictureflow working in my sansa e260? it says no album art found then i get a plug in error? Do I need song to be in a specific folder or what? 00.08.39 # does album art work at all? 00.08.39 # Is the database initialised? 00.09.01 # initialised? 00.09.09 # well how do i get it to be initialized 00.09.12 # webguest40: the same thing happened when i tried that on my e260. but when i tried it again, it worked. may have to do something with the database, yeah 00.09.25 # webguest40: The manual contains all the answers 00.09.36 # * pixelma gets annoyed by more and more small bugs one can find when looking closer just for updating the documentation :/ 00.09.44 # i cnt display manual 00.09.58 # im on my phone 00.09.59 # pixelma: Is there anywhere I can help? 00.10.07 # BigBambi: on pictureflow and album art? I doubt it 00.10.15 # pixelma: On the manual 00.10.39 # there is a html version of the manual available. 00.10.43 # my first sentence referred to the infos you can find in the manual 00.10.45 # do i have to change PLUGIN_API_VERSION if I add a function to the end of the plugin stuct? 00.10.50 Nick fxb is now known as fxb__ (n=felixbru@h1252615.stratoserver.net) 00.11.02 # directly linked from the manual download page. So if you can display CGI::IRC you can display the manual. 00.11.15 # pixelma: Right, but I was talking about database initialisation 00.11.32 # Which AFAIK is in the manual :) 00.11.33 # saratoga: yes 00.11.37 # thanks 00.11.52 # That value needs to be changed whever the plugin api struct changes 00.12.09 # where does PICture flow look for Albums??? 00.12.12 # If the change is backwards compatible (i.e. adding to the end), change only that 00.12.23 # webguest40: Does album art work? 00.12.36 # hwo shoudl I KNOW?? 00.12.40 # webguest40: is the database initialized? 00.12.47 # webguest40: By playing music 00.12.48 # i updated 00.12.54 # webguest40: use a theme that supports album art and play some track? 00.12.56 # If the change breaks backwards compatibility, you also need to increase PLUGIN_MIN_API_VERSION to the same value as PLUGIN_API_VERSION 00.12.59 # webguest40: Do you see album art when playing music? 00.13.04 Join FOAD_ [0] (n=dok@dinah.blub.net) 00.13.05 # I have Cabbie 2.0 theme 00.13.05 Quit FOAD_ (Client Quit) 00.13.09 Quit bmbl ("Woah!") 00.13.14 # which should show album art 00.13.42 # So if cabbie v2 is not showing art, then you don't have it set up properly - see www.rockbox.org/wiki/AlbumArt 00.13.47 # no album art on my cabbie 2.0 00.13.56 # it works on normal firmware 00.14.03 # BigBambi: tucoz recently posted this todo list http://pastebin.com/m21bd966a (did only one thing already - the pegbox screenshots). I'm currently fixing some small mistakes in plugin descriptions and noticed that some are undocumented: e.g. matrix, pictureflow, invadrox, superdom. Not sure what can be done about it until tuesday 00.14.03 # Irrelevant 00.14.05 # webguest40: that's in the wiki. cover.bmp in the right folder should work for example 00.14.07 # there acutally is a album art :o 00.14.08 # we do not care about the original firmware. 00.14.12 # mmk 00.14.24 # again, we don't care about it. 00.14.34 # the OF is only for usb mode :) 00.14.34 # i know im saying it does work in original like it does hav album art.. 00.14.48 # Which is irrelevant 00.14.56 # and not of interest to anyone here 00.15.02 # no the build table 00.15.16 # webguest40: Rockbox is completely different to any of the many original firmwares that the many different players in runs on use 00.15.21 Join havien [0] (n=havien@68-189-143-101.dhcp.wlwl.wa.charter.com) 00.15.33 # saratoga: not too bad ;) 00.15.50 # pixelma: I'll happily do some tomorrow 00.15.57 # Rockbox is a _replacement_ firmware. As in, it has nothing in common with the original firmware. As in it doesn't care how the original firmware handles things. 00.16.46 # Which original firmware is also a valid point here - the iriver ones? The iaudio ones? The apple ones? The toshiba ones? etc etc 00.17.07 # the Archos ones? ;) 00.17.27 # yep :) 00.17.30 # the sandisk one? The olympus? 00.17.47 # * BigBambi points out he got tired of typing and added etc :) 00.17.51 # Archos? And which one? 00.17.57 # any manufacturer we haven't covered yet? 00.18.12 # back so I just put a BMP in with the song so itll find it? oh btw MR einstein thank you for correcting me a thousand time when it is unneccsary :) 00.18.25 Quit dany_21a_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00.18.35 # no, read www.rockbox.org/wiki/AlbumArt 00.18.41 # * bluebrother gets annoyed by some webguest 00.18.43 # i did] 00.18.52 # And surely you want to be corrected if you are asking for help and wrong 00.19.01 # and did you actually try it? 00.19.09 # He obviosuly didn't 00.19.09 # saratoga: yellow 00.19.54 # * bluebrother considers it annoying having a guide, follwing it and before actually trying asking again if it's a 100% safe operation 00.19.54 Quit kronflux ("Leaving") 00.21.49 # just once i'd like to have a big commit go through without breaking something 00.24.10 # noooooo the build table 00.25.04 # Does anyone have a handy script to build all the sims? 00.25.42 # ah hwcodec 00.26.06 # BigBambi: I have one (changed from Bagder's buildall) 00.26.42 Join faemir [0] (n=quassel@88-106-209-242.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) 00.27.07 # saratoga: Hwcodec doesn't have all that advanced threading crap ('cause it doesn't need it) 00.27.16 # gevaerts: Could you link/send/whatever is easiest it to me? 00.27.26 # amiconn: i didn't realize that, whats the proper check for it? 00.27.31 # ifdef SWCODEC? 00.28.49 # BigBambi: http://www.evonet.be/~gevaerts/buildall-linuxsims.txt (not .pl, I don't want trouble...). It marks things as 3.0RC though, you'll have to change that back if you want trunk 00.29.03 # gevaerts: OK, thanks 00.29.56 Join tvelocity [0] (n=tony@195.167.65.109) 00.30.43 # or rather I guess #if (CONFIG_CODEC == SWCODEC) 00.31.16 # yes 00.31.25 # The semaphore functions are what is swcodec only 00.31.56 # They're declared in codecs.h, as grep tells me 00.32.24 # event_ too 00.32.39 # thread_thaw is all-targets 00.32.48 # do you want the other functions on hwcodec if nothing is currently using them? 00.33.28 # Well, the general philosophy is that if a function needs to be exported *and* that function is available on all targets, it should be exported for all targets 00.33.55 # As this is a quick fix, you don't need to change the api version again, imo 00.34.12 # Just put all but thread_thaw() in an SWCODEC block 00.35.29 # congrats on the MP3 synthesis on COP, saratoga. I'm giddy with excitement. 00.35.46 # The reason for this philosophy is that if you #ifdef out a function, and another target later needs it, it would break backwards compatibility for that target, and sinec we don't define the api versions per target, we'd need to break it for all targets 00.36.42 Join dany_21a [0] (n=dan@84.119.26.180) 00.36.53 # Another reason is that it makes it easier for developers. Less #ifdefs-> better readable, and it's less likely to confuse a plugin developer (why does my plugin not build on target Y??) 00.37.03 # saratoga: nice improvement. Too bad most of my music is ogg ... *hint* ;-) 00.37.13 Quit faemir (Remote closed the connection) 00.39.47 # bluebrother: jhMikeS and I discussed applying this approach to Vorbis, WMA and AAC as well 00.40.02 # they're just not as slow so it made less sense to start with them 00.40.40 # well that and I have more single threaded optimizations in mind for those codecs anyway 00.40.52 # good point. 00.41.30 # though if anyone else wants to get into codec optimizing, please don't let me get in your way 00.46.24 Quit bluebrother (Nick collision from services.) 00.46.29 Join bluebrother [0] (n=dom@rockbox/staff/bluebrother) 00.46.51 Join bish [0] (n=485e753a@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-1ef103460e40bebf) 00.46.51 Quit webguest40 ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 00.48.24 # * pixelma can't think anymore and would need a nice sentence describing the bookmark feature of the text viewer 00.50.30 Join MethoS- [0] (n=clemens@host-091-097-241-112.ewe-ip-backbone.de) 00.51.30 # can anyone help me with trying to get cover flow thing to work? i put the bmp cover in with the artist folder and renamed it to cover and it still wnt show in pic flow?? 00.52.01 # does it show in the wps? 00.52.14 # is the database initialized? 00.52.39 # * BigBambi gets a feeling of deja vu 00.52.43 # * bluebrother points out that bish is the same as webguest40 :D 00.53.14 # ? 00.53.21 # ! 00.53.38 # The answers are the same as when you asked them as webguest40 00.53.45 Join culture [0] (n=sam@82.18.162.147) 00.54.07 # webguest40? btw database is initialized 00.54.33 # And does album art work in the WPS? 00.54.44 # where do i find the wps 00.55.03 # Play some music? 00.55.13 # hold 00.55.26 # bish: You were here not long ago as webguest40. We can see from your IP address 00.55.43 Join ompaul [0] (n=ompaul@gnewsense/friend/ompaul) 00.56.52 # it shwos in wps but cnt find in flow 01.00.56 # have you rebooted after initializing the database? 01.01.08 Quit toffe82 (Remote closed the connection) 01.01.15 # yeh now i cnt find artist in database 01.03.05 # saratoga: Why didn't you simply use #ifdef CPU_PP ? 01.06.41 Quit bish ("CGI:IRC") 01.06.57 # Also, now it won't be possible to compile a single core build for PP, and it seems like single core wastes some ram 01.07.34 Join patriot [0] (n=439f2c8a@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-0a7249fd6f6a4e04) 01.07.36 # Ah, it's a single pointer (iiuc) 01.08.02 Quit patriot (Client Quit) 01.08.06 # anyone here, who can help me with variables in the rockbox-TWiki? (i mean defineing twiki-variables to provide some formating-helps) 01.09.51 Join mmadia [0] (n=chatzill@pool-138-89-96-141.mad.east.verizon.net) 01.13.32 # amiconn: i asked you an hour or two ago what the proper define was . . . 01.14.21 # AH, hmm. T'was 2 hours ago actually :) 01.14.40 # i'm still experiementing with this, so it can be changed with a future commit 01.14.43 # Did you check whether performance changes on single core (i.e. coldfire)? 01.15.09 # I did not, just checked that it worked correctly on the Gigabeat 01.15.40 # hmm.... 01.15.55 Quit jhulst (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 01.18.25 # i don't think the pointer changes should really matter, but if they do I can work on that 01.20.45 Quit ompaul (Client Quit) 01.21.05 Quit ender` (" What if there were no hypothetical questions? ‮") 01.21.08 # dany_21a: what do you mean? 01.21.33 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 01.21.53 Quit culture (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 01.23.13 # okay... already found some solution... was just a formating problem... now i have a other problem... all in all: want something like this: 01.23.56 # http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/SansaV2FWHacks 01.25.05 # only problem is: need to store the variable-definition in WebPreferences - Bagder, i think you have write-rights there... could you help me? 01.25.32 Quit ajonat () 01.26.15 # why such a code box? It only makes it harder to scroll it as you have to scroll the div element 01.26.34 Join AndyIL [0] (n=pasha_in@212.14.205.32) 01.27.00 # wow WMA is quite slow on the gigabeat, I get that 192k needs 51MHz 01.27.12 # bluebrother easyier to copy... ^A selects only code from one box - if there are more snippets 01.27.55 Quit AndyIL (Client Quit) 01.27.56 Quit tvelocity (Remote closed the connection) 01.28.09 # ^A selects the whole page for me 01.28.29 # Vorbis too 01.28.48 # i wonder if the Tremor IMDCT doesn't work well on the Gigabeat for some reason 01.29.28 # and it's really annoying if you scroll such a page -- as when hovering the box you're scrolling the box ... 01.29.34 Join AndyIL [0] (n=pasha_in@212.14.205.32) 01.29.49 # bluebrother: ah sh.... , had a