--- Log for 25.09.108 Server: brown.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: @logbot Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 23 days and 18 hours ago 00.00.40 # I think the feed should survive that as long as the current lines are kept unchanged, and in the same order 00.00.46 # ok 00.00.47 # * Llorean thinks we should get the people who are distributing voices via our mailing list to clarify the licenses on the engines they're using, and then contribute (or possibly, stop posting) 00.00.54 Join dany_21a_ [0] (n=daniel@84-119-27-188.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at) 00.02.06 # * Nico_P requests for comments: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/MajorChanges 00.02.19 # Is there anywhere I can find older builds of Rockbox still? (older than a couple of weeks) 00.03.19 # Nico_P: looks good 00.03.27 # samdouglas: You can compile them yourself. Why do you need them? 00.04.36 # Llorean: I have no sound on an Olympus mrobe m100 using the latest builds, and 3.0 00.04.59 # Nico_P: nice. 00.05.18 # samdouglas: Did you file a bug report? 00.05.22 # samdouglas: already tried resetting the settings? 00.05.31 Join Thundercloud [0] (n=thunderc@cpc1-hem18-0-0-cust660.lutn.cable.ntl.com) 00.06.14 Join shotofadds [0] (n=rob@rockbox/developer/shotofadds) 00.06.37 # Llorean: not yet, Flyspray was being really slow and gave errors like "Fatal error: Allowed memory size of 8388608 bytes exhausted (tried to allocate 35 bytes) in /usr/share/flyspray/htdocs/adodb/adodb.inc.php on line 2859 " which is probably also noteworthy 00.06.48 # Nico_P: now marking those changes that have been left out of 3.0 would be nice. Not sure if that's worth the hassle though. 00.07.06 # Nico_P: Parser still works as well 00.07.08 # bluebrother: which changes are you thinking of? 00.07.10 Quit ilembitov ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)") 00.07.12 # rasher: great :) 00.10.38 # Nico_P: stuff like md5sum left out of 3.0, and support for new players that aren't 3.0 targets. 00.10.54 # Llorean: does not give any error any more, but after attempting to log in I get to http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/ and it is an empty page 00.11.20 # bluebrother: ah, I see what you mean 00.11.59 # I'd just add a note to the effect that the MajorChanges page lists all changes, some of which may be left out of a release 00.12.38 # samdouglas: Try http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/index.php?type=2 00.12.42 Quit bmbl ("Woah!") 00.12.59 Quit mf0102 ("Ex-Chat") 00.15.20 # the tracker still being broken isn't a good thing :( 00.16.59 Quit dany_21a (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00.17.31 Join fdinel [0] (n=Miranda@modemcable204.232-203-24.mc.videotron.ca) 00.21.35 Join mmadia [0] (n=chatzill@pool-138-89-96-141.mad.east.verizon.net) 00.22.28 # gevaerts: maybe we can enable rockbox USB by default in trunk now? 00.23.11 # Not sure. I think it needs more thought 00.25.12 Join pete-fmrecUK [0] (n=5219900a@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-638b6728cd65690b) 00.25.34 # gevaerts: Due to bus resets, or sansa issues? 00.28.47 # Hi, I'm trying to flash v3.0 onto an FM Recorder, but can't find the firmware_fm.bin file - is this ready or am I jumping the gun on the new release ? 00.30.07 Quit shotofadds (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 00.30.31 Quit bluebrother ("leaving") 00.34.00 Quit dany_21a_ ("Konversation terminated!") 00.35.17 # Llorean: bus resets. On the sansa I think it's a clear no 00.36.14 # Llorean: if we can provide an easy way to disable it again, I'm not against enabling it for the other targets 00.39.22 Quit faemir (Remote closed the connection) 00.43.05 # pete-fmrecUK: I believe there are no new bootbox files available yet, this needed some fixing. I am not sure of the current status but someone wanted to look into providing them too the next days 00.43.13 Quit massiveH ("Leaving") 00.45.23 # Weird. Sound started working on various versions. Must have not fully reset of something 00.45.27 Quit bertrik ("Leaving") 00.45.34 Part pixelma 00.45.51 # Has this one been posted yet? http://lifehacker.com/5054229/rockbox-30-supercharges-your-mp3-player will add to ArticlesAboutRockbox 00.45.54 Join pixelma2 [0] (n=marianne@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 00.46.04 # homielowe: yes, it has 00.46.13 # homielowe: already done :) 00.46.15 # * homielowe feels redundant 00.47.56 # pixelma; Thanks for the reply, I'll stick with 2.5 then, I am keen to try new features but will happily stick with the excellent 2.5. It makes my big old FM Recorder my favourite player. 00.49.13 Quit ameyer (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 00.50.15 Quit pete-fmrecUK ("CGI:IRC") 00.50.22 Join pete-fmrecUK [0] (n=5219900a@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-be45a622dd1eb786) 00.52.01 Quit blahrus ("Ex-Chat") 00.52.02 Quit pete-fmrecUK (Client Quit) 00.58.29 Quit Nibbler (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 00.59.17 Quit DerPapst (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 01.01.19 Quit reacocard (".") 01.03.55 Quit ender` (" Come to think of it, there are already a million monkeys on a million typewriters, and IRC is NOTHING like Shakespeare.") 01.09.56 Quit n1s () 01.14.37 Quit Strife89 ("Leaving") 01.19.33 # The battery cutout level with Rockbox on the m100 is annoyingly low. Each time I turn the player on it decides that the battery is completely flat and eventually works up to a more reasonable charge level... if it doesn't cut out before then 01.20.42 # samdouglas: How old is your battery? 01.22.31 Join stripwax [0] (n=Miranda@87-194-34-169.bethere.co.uk) 01.23.20 # Llorean: to be honest, I am not sure, I only just acquired this, but it wasn't really used at all for the last year. The original firmware shows a much more reasonable charge level though 01.23.44 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 01.23.51 Quit Thundercloud (Remote closed the connection) 01.24.02 # samdouglas: So the battery's at least a year old? 01.24.11 # yeah 01.24.16 # Use doesn't factor as much into it as age does unless you've been keeping it in a very cold environment. 01.24.34 Quit Nico_P (Remote closed the connection) 01.26.00 Quit stripwax (Client Quit) 01.26.08 # Do you get a message from Rockbox when it "cuts out" or what? 01.27.40 # Llorean: Yes, Rockbox detects the battery level as being 0% (when in fact it is fully charged) Rockbox gives a message like "Battery empty, RECHARGE; shutting down" 01.28.00 Join massiveH [0] (n=massiveH@ool-44c48a1e.dyn.optonline.net) 01.28.03 # I just started into the Olympus firmware which shows the battery as being fully charged 01.29.40 # samdouglas: So, the fact that Rockbox shuts down when your battery briefly reports 0% is the problem? 01.30.22 # Llorean: that appears to be the case 01.31.15 # I'd suggest "0%" is not an unreasonably low cutoff point. 01.31.30 # Does the OF even attempt to do low battery shutdown, or does it just run until empty? 01.34.27 # Llorean: I'm not sure, I haven't used the OF because it is pretty crap. According to System - Debug - View battery, the level is at 3.586V, which going by the voltage calibration spreadsheet I found on the Rockbox site puts it at very low battery. 01.35.22 # So the battery actually is very low, and the OF is wrong, or Rockbox is reading the battery wrong. 01.35.24 Join needhelpplz [0] (n=47aee9cd@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-5234f7bb746957b0) 01.36.04 Quit needhelpplz (Client Quit) 01.36.20 Join powerjuce [0] (n=powerjuc@unaffiliated/powerjuce) 01.36.57 # Llorean: It's probably the integration that's quite a bit off after bootup 01.37.26 # I guess this is because the high startup current lowers the reading, which is then used as a starting point 01.37.33 # is there a place where i can get different screenshots of rockbox 01.37.43 # powerjuce: The manual 01.37.56 # Llorean: well, the OF reported it was pretty flat when I got it, and less flat when charging and now having charged for a couple of hours is reporting pretty much full battery. There is quite a lot of variation in the battery graph 01.37.57 Join Nico_P [50] (n=nicolas@rockbox/developer/NicoP) 01.38.14 # I observe this effect on many targets, with varying severity 01.38.16 # that rockbox debug gives 01.41.03 # where can i get the bot that logs this channel? 01.41.36 # powerjuce: It's an old, old bot called Dancer, I believe 01.42.01 # ok 01.42.14 # cool thanks for the help (about rockbox or otherwise) 01.42.28 Part powerjuce ("goodbye and thanks for all the fish") 01.44.49 # I will try hacking around with it later. 01.46.06 Quit BlakeJohnson861 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 01.46.18 Join BlakeJohnson86 [0] (n=bjohnson@c-24-118-162-123.hsd1.mn.comcast.net) 01.49.35 Part Llorean 01.58.13 Join webguest94 [0] (n=430aeeaf@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-52e16619b609721f) 02.02.37 Join m0f0x [0] (n=m0f0x@189-47-61-74.dsl.telesp.net.br) 02.03.38 Nick JdGordon|zzz is now known as JdGordon (n=jonno@rockbox/developer/JdGordon) 02.03.41 Quit webguest94 ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)") 02.12.03 Part toffe82 02.15.47 Quit Nico_P (Remote closed the connection) 02.16.55 Quit petur ("Zzzzz") 02.17.54 Join EspeonEefi [0] (i=espeonee@STRATTON-SIX-FIFTY-SEVEN.MIT.EDU) 02.19.13 Quit Hillshum ("ChatZilla 0.9.83 [Firefox 3.0.1/2008070208]") 02.19.25 Quit culture (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 02.38.40 Join BHSPitMonkey [0] (n=stephen@unaffiliated/bhspitmonkey) 02.40.00 Quit jhulst (No route to host) 02.41.45 Quit MethoS- (Remote closed the connection) 02.41.47 Quit BlakeJohnson86 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 02.42.28 Join jhulst [0] (n=jhulst@unaffiliated/jhulst) 02.44.24 Join BlakeJohnson86 [0] (n=bjohnson@c-24-118-162-123.hsd1.mn.comcast.net) 02.51.29 Quit EspeonEefi ("さよăȘら") 02.58.05 Join toffe82 [0] (n=chatzill@h-74-0-180-178.snvacaid.covad.net) 03.06.29 Part toffe82 03.06.37 Quit BlakeJohnson86 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 03.08.18 Join Llorean [0] (n=DarkkOne@32.170.94.109) 03.09.12 Quit dabujo (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 03.10.38 Join AndyI [0] (i=AndyI@212.14.205.32) 03.12.35 Quit herrwaldo (Remote closed the connection) 03.22.14 Quit XavierGr () 03.22.52 Join BlakeJohnson86 [0] (n=bjohnson@c-24-118-162-123.hsd1.mn.comcast.net) 03.23.46 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 03.24.17 Quit AndyIL (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 03.38.22 Join BlakeJohnson861 [0] (n=bjohnson@c-24-118-162-123.hsd1.mn.comcast.net) 03.43.51 Quit mmadia ("ChatZilla 0.9.83 [Firefox 3.0.1/2008070208]") 03.47.07 Join humblegod538 [0] (n=brad@c-76-105-155-226.hsd1.or.comcast.net) 03.47.36 Join krazykit [0] (n=kkit@adsl-76-251-245-37.dsl.ipltin.sbcglobal.net) 03.47.55 # Hello, I just registered for the rockbox wiki and would like write permissions to upload an .fmr 03.48.03 # Username is BradEmmons. Can anyone here do this? 03.48.39 Join star_jasmine [0] (n=arwyneve@75.108.74.16) 03.49.47 # hey everyone. congrats on 3.0. its great. I have a question. the rockbox utility has the option for sapi 4 voice creation, but it won't creae a working voice. i creates one with a file size of 8kb. is there something I am doing wrong? 03.50.12 Join saratoga [0] (n=9803c6dd@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-e4ca8afde0d55101) 03.50.23 # i've added BradEmmons to the wiki 03.50.33 # ceate a voice rather 03.50.38 # create 03.51.08 # Thank you saratoga 03.51.25 Quit DerDome (Nick collision from services.) 03.51.26 Join DerDome1 [0] (n=DerDome@dslb-082-083-202-253.pools.arcor-ip.net) 03.51.36 Nick DerDome1 is now known as DerDome (n=DerDome@dslb-082-083-202-253.pools.arcor-ip.net) 03.51.56 Quit BlakeJohnson86 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 03.52.03 # This is my second time trying Rockbox, 3.0 looks great! 03.52.17 # especially like the upside-down display. Makes biking & jamming much easier now 03.53.43 # saratoga, are you able to grant wiki editing permissions? I just created a .fmr preset file for my city, and I'd like to upload it when possible 03.55.23 Join |AhIoRoS| [0] (n=ahioros@200.75.224.98) 03.57.11 # nm, guess I misunderstood. Thanks! 03.57.12 # humblegod538: I've already added you, assuming you're BradEmmons 03.57.27 # Yes, I just got it to work (password error). Thank you again! 03.58.00 Join toffe82 [0] (n=chatzill@70.135.33.15) 04.01.53 Join Marcus [0] (n=spartanf@c-76-26-244-155.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) 04.04.00 # So... I suppose if Rockbox says that my Ipod is unsupported, there's no workaround, right? 04.04.12 # I'm using a nano (dunno which generation) 04.04.15 # Right 04.04.40 # If your player is unsupported that means Rockbox cannot be run on it, period, without a significant amount of programming work. 04.04.47 # Darn. 04.04.55 # How many generations of nano were there? 04.05.00 # 4 04.05.10 # crap. 04.05.39 # Would i be blasphemy if I asked where to find something like Rockbox that is supported on my Ipod? 04.05.46 # it* 04.06.13 # If there were something else like Rockbox for your iPod, there'd *probably* also be Rockbox for it. 04.06.21 Join Darksair [0] (n=user@123.112.114.88) 04.06.44 # Off to enjoy my X5 w/ newly-reloaded Rockbox. Thanks for your work, guys! 04.06.45 Part humblegod538 04.06.58 Join Hillshum [0] (n=Hillshum@75-165-231-192.slkc.qwest.net) 04.07.32 # oh well... 04.07.41 # It's cool anyway, even if I can't run it. 04.07.51 # I have major <3 for custom firmware. 04.07.55 # just ask my PSP. 04.08.06 # anyway, thanks for the help. 04.08.09 Quit Marcus () 04.08.09 # i saves the sansa e200 04.08.23 # it 04.09.42 # not really 04.09.48 # the ipod yeah 04.09.54 # I hacked the cutoff voltages for the Olympus m100 and have been testing it. The battery is still running a few albums later. The battery voltage graph shows fluctuation sitting around about 3.5V point (which by default Rockbox considers critically low). 04.11.10 # my voice creation under cygwin isn't choosing system default voices consistently. maybe I needd to reforma the computer 04.11.12 # Although it is possible that the difference in ADC values is just due to the battery being old. A new battery some time should help confirm that 04.13.02 Quit Hillshum ("*puts nose in thick book*") 04.15.18 Join miepchen^schlaf_ [0] (n=miepchen@p579ECDA2.dip.t-dialin.net) 04.19.07 Quit w0rd54 (Remote closed the connection) 04.22.19 Quit star_jasmine () 04.28.21 Join reacocard [0] (n=reacocar@WL-433.CINE.HMC.Edu) 04.29.00 Join w0rd54 [0] (i=blackdev@100mbit.top-site.us) 04.29.49 Join eagledrc [0] (n=chatzill@98.144.90.15) 04.31.23 Quit miepchen^schlaf (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 04.34.31 # hi i need a hidden partition dump file for the sandisk sansa e280R 04.35.21 Quit fdinel ("Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org") 04.37.29 Join shrimants [0] (n=shrimant@76.226.212.226) 04.37.38 # hello 04.38.17 # i'm having problems with mp3 tags in rockbox. I just freshly tagged everything, and rockbox puts, for instance, the same copy of 2 albums udner the artist and also under (untagged) 04.38.42 # furthermore, it reads pink fl, pink flo, pink floyd for my pink floyd album 04.38.59 # and then it also put double copies of every song for Muse into the directory 04.42.55 # This kind of thing may happen if your tags contain more data than Rockbox can accomodate. 04.43.07 # This can happen if you have album art as a tag, or very large comment tags. 04.43.45 # I am quite sure I have as my comments and that I have no album art 04.43.53 Quit w0rd54 (Client Quit) 04.44.37 # Also, does this mean that album art is not a good idea to try to use in rockbox? 04.44.50 # Rockbox doesn't support Album Art in the tags. 04.44.53 # You use a separate file 04.45.00 # And, what did you use to tag your files? 04.45.33 # what OS are you using? 04.45.39 # shrimants? 04.45.43 # yes 04.45.52 # i am using linux, Arch linux to be exact 04.45.59 # and the program is called EasyTag 04.46.32 # as we speak I;m clearing out the unnecessary fields 04.46.43 # including getting rid of album art "tags" 04.46.47 # What revision of Rockbox are you using? 04.47.01 # i used the rockbox utility to install it, so presumably version 3.0 04.47.55 # Well, that depends on which choice you made in the program, I believe. 04.48.14 # Are the tags ID3v1 or v2 and if so, which revision of 2? 04.48.40 # version 3v1 04.48.53 # if i knew of a way to clear the version 2 tags i would 04.49.05 # or no 04.49.13 # sorry they are ID3v2.4 04.49.23 # in UTF-8 04.49.37 # i also have ID3v1 tags in western encoding 04.49.42 # I'd recommend stripping all tags but the ones you intend to use. 04.49.49 # Then deleting the database and re-initializing it. 04.52.02 # ok, i believe I am doing it correctly 04.52.10 # i disabled writing id3v1 04.52.18 # then did a forced save of all tags 04.52.30 # which SHOULD delete everything except the v2.4 tags 04.52.33 # lol i was just going to suggest EasyTags... LInux ftw btw 04.52.38 # yes! 04.52.49 # i actually tried switching back to windows but it was so terrible i came back 04.53.00 # and even though installing windows took me almost 12.5 hours 04.53.10 # to get everything including programs configured and running 04.53.16 # it toko me about 1 with linux to restore it 04.56.49 # haha yea 04.57.19 # i installed XP and had to spend hours installing drivers to get internet, sound, and a proper resolution 04.57.25 # but i still dual-boot 04.58.08 # looks like its done doing what it does 04.58.43 # lol 04.58.59 # the one thing i wish rockbox did is have a sleep mode instead of only having on/off settings 04.59.00 Quit eagledrc ("ChatZilla 0.9.83 [Firefox 3.0.1/2008072820]") 05.01.20 Quit massiveH ("Leaving") 05.01.22 # what are your crossfade settings? 05.04.17 # nvm, i found some good ones 05.16.18 Quit Llorean ("Leaving.") 05.16.30 # what does accessory powersupply do? i dont see it in the manual 05.16.44 # is that the same thing as car adapter mode basically? 05.16.55 Join Llorean [0] (n=DarkkOne@ppp-70-242-15-169.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net) 05.17.05 # or is it like "dont try to establish a data connection automatically" 05.17.20 # so that it doesnt do the infinite boot sequence when adapter is plugged in 05.17.56 # I probably missed your question 05.18.07 # But I'm guessing Car Adapter mode? 05.18.11 # The manual describes it. 05.22.22 Quit kugel ("ChatZilla 0.9.83 [Firefox 3.0.1/2008070208]") 05.23.48 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 05.24.15 # btw my version is r18620-080924 05.37.21 Quit m0f0x () 05.40.54 Part shrimants 05.41.27 Join Zom_ [0] (n=zom@c-73b9e253.09-109-73766c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) 05.41.30 Quit Zom (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 05.50.14 Quit saratoga ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 05.50.31 Join cool_walking_ [0] (i=cb3b81c3@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-a55521b6933084cf) 05.53.18 Quit Horscht ("I am root. If you see me laughing, you better have a backup") 05.53.25 Join here2code [0] (n=180a7cac@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-a61d2795b9a7fa42) 05.53.43 Quit jhulst (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 05.53.47 Quit Zarggg () 05.54.37 # hi 05.55.01 # i am new to rockbox development and irc, both 05.58.07 # hello here2code 05.59.11 Join jhulst [0] (n=jhulst@unaffiliated/jhulst) 06.00.27 Quit here2code ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)") 06.01.36 Quit davidfg4 (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 06.01.55 Join davidfg4 [0] (n=david@69.51.95.200) 06.04.02 Join here2code [0] (n=mirc@c-24-10-124-172.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) 06.04.56 Quit davidfg4 (Connection reset by peer) 06.09.16 Join davidfg4 [0] (n=david@69.51.95.200) 06.17.52 Part toffe82 06.19.55 Join MarcGuay [0] (n=chatzill@ip216-239-75-234.vif.net) 06.22.00 # Nico_P (logs): MajorChanges is a bit weird now with things like "DONE 2008-07-14: Initial support for the Onda VX747" listed as "in 3.0". We need a better way to sort it I think, otherwise it's a bit misleading. 06.26.28 # I see now bluebrother's suggestion to mark them... And I agree that it's a lot of work for little gain... 06.35.22 Quit MarcGuay ("ChatZilla 0.9.83 [Firefox 3.0.1/2008070208]") 06.42.16 Join toffe82 [0] (n=chatzill@70.135.33.15) 06.52.34 Quit toffe82 (Remote closed the connection) 06.57.44 Quit here2code (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 06.58.02 Join here2code [0] (n=mirc@c-24-10-124-172.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) 07.08.39 Join toffe82 [0] (n=chatzill@70.135.33.15) 07.10.35 Quit jhulst (Remote closed the connection) 07.23.51 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 07.37.18 Part toffe82 07.45.32 Quit daurnimator (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 07.59.51 Quit Seed ("cu, Andre") 07.59.55 Join LinusN [0] (n=linus@rockbox/developer/LinusN) 08.08.09 Quit miepchen^schlaf_ () 08.14.45 Join lol3izer [0] (i=lol3@72.2.63.189) 08.18.00 Join Bagderr [241] (n=daniel@rockbox/developer/bagder) 08.18.25 Nick Bagderr is now known as B4gder (n=daniel@rockbox/developer/bagder) 08.18.29 # 24000 visits on www.rockbox.org yday was counted 08.18.42 # we average on 10000 normal days 08.18.50 # crikey! 08.19.21 # Impressive. 08.21.26 # more than 5000 referers from lifehacker.com 08.21.45 # nice 08.22.13 # I wonder what percentage of those visitors were disappointed not to find a sudden working ipod classic port or somesuch ? 08.23.50 # 90% :D 08.23.53 # hehehe 08.24.22 # Nice, just saw the lifehacker article myself 08.26.05 # ah yes, third comment down on lifehacker 08.26.11 # "where's the ipod classic support?" 08.26.39 Join neddy1 [0] (n=john@nat/sun/x-2e22ffe529417ec6) 08.27.18 # I can also see on the server that we're past the peak 08.27.32 # we had our maximum number of apache processes running last night 08.27.59 # from 150 it is now down to ~90 08.28.08 # whoah, did we really ship 3.0 without a RBUtil to go with it ? 08.28.17 # yes 08.28.32 # but I hope we'll have a 3.0 one soon 08.28.44 Join desowin [0] (n=desowin@atheme/member/desowin) 08.28.54 # oooh, that strikes me as a somewhat schoolboy error 08.29.10 # my mac is ready to do a build but I dont know what local changes domonoky has done to the source and it doesnt build... 08.29.13 Quit Galois ("Leaving") 08.29.44 Nick neddy1 is now known as nuonguy11 (n=john@nat/sun/x-2e22ffe529417ec6) 08.30.20 Nick nuonguy11 is now known as nuonguy (n=john@nat/sun/x-2e22ffe529417ec6) 08.30.30 # well, it was probably a result of me being strict about keeping the dead-line 08.31.06 Nick nuonguy is now known as neddy1 (n=john@nat/sun/x-2e22ffe529417ec6) 08.31.22 # lets try not to do that again :) 08.31.28 # GodEater: first release in 3 years... I think we are allowed to make some mistakes 08.32.02 Quit here2code (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 08.32.04 # Hopefully the "Release" button in RBUtil can be done in such a way in the future that we won't need a new version for each release anyway. 08.32.09 # It's a "fix-once" kinda problem. 08.32.10 Join here2code [0] (n=mirc@c-24-10-124-172.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) 08.33.18 # JdGordon: absolutely, so long as we learn from them 08.33.36 # can anyone think of a reason to not close 9419 as not needed? 08.33.41 # did we actually get "slashdotted" as some people seem to think ? 08.33.57 Join scoles [0] (n=43f27cc0@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-fd1e7f3ab477abe7) 08.34.28 Quit neddy (Connection timed out) 08.34.31 # LinusN: there? 08.34.38 # yup 08.34.41 Join ender` [0] (i=krneki@foo.eternallybored.org) 08.35.12 # LinusN: I have a couple o'questions. First, is there a reason why the iriver bootloaders use a hack for usb instead of the usb thread? 08.35.36 # yes 08.36.28 # let's see if i remember why... 08.36.30 # The initial commit for this was what broke bootbox in Dec 2005, and then I tried a similar method for fixing bootbox, and found it to be unreliable due to race conditions 08.36.48 # Finally I brought back the usb thread for bootbox, and it works 08.37.33 # The problem with the hack is that it doesn't block the ata thread, but instead tries to keep it from switching off the disk by using ata_spin() 08.38.37 Join Galois [0] (i=djao@efnet-math.org) 08.38.38 # But if this ata_spin comes in the wrong moment (after the ata thread decided to power off the disk but before actually doing it), it might still power off the disk 08.39.29 Quit bughunter2 ("bye") 08.41.48 Quit here2code (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 08.42.03 Join here2code [0] (n=mirc@c-24-10-124-172.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) 08.45.55 Quit BHSPitMonkey (Remote closed the connection) 08.47.36 Join GodEater__ [0] (i=c2cbc962@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-eb5bc5e255495dd0) 08.49.42 Join Rob2222 [0] (n=Miranda@p4FDCC3D6.dip.t-dialin.net) 08.52.10 Quit GodEater ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") 08.52.11 Quit cool_walking_ ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") 08.52.11 Quit GodEater__ (Client Quit) 08.54.04 Quit BigBambi (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 08.54.35 Join GodEater [0] (i=c2cbc962@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-b5044b6896060f2c) 09.04.11 Quit Acksaw (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 09.04.12 Join petur [50] (n=petur@rockbox/developer/petur) 09.04.30 Join Acksaw [0] (n=omgwtfbb@cpc2-stok5-0-0-cust754.bagu.cable.ntl.com) 09.04.49 # amiconn: i see 09.05.14 # hey there wont be any issues if i try to put rockbox on an ipod color 4g with a 4gb microdrive in it will there? 09.06.31 Quit Rob2223 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 09.06.42 # amiconn: i *think* the reason for the usb hack was external dependencies, and that the usb thread calls dbg_ports() etc when it fails 09.07.19 Quit desowin ("KVIrc Insomnia 4.0.0, revision: 2560, sources date: 20080916, built on: 2008/09/25 06:14:48 UTC 2560 http://www.kvirc.net/") 09.07.25 # i wanted to act differently in the bootloader and i felt that a hack was better than #ifdef hell 09.07.56 # and i didn't want background polling 09.08.03 Quit Acksaw (brown.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 09.08.03 NSplit brown.freenode.net irc.freenode.net 09.08.03 Quit neddy1 (brown.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 09.08.03 Quit davidfg4 (brown.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 09.08.03 Quit advcomp2019 (brown.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 09.08.03 Quit perrikwp (brown.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 09.08.41 # (i.e the tick task) 09.09.02 # Hmm, any special reason for this? 09.09.11 # i wanted the bootloader to have absolute control over the usb mode 09.09.18 # The tick interrupt is running anyway, otherwise sleep() wouldn't work 09.09.23 Quit feisar (Remote closed the connection) 09.09.51 # And you introduced an ifdef for this (in usb.c) 09.10.07 # i'm sure i did 09.10.24 # ...which wouldn't have been necessary when using the usb thread as-is 09.11.41 # And since there are various issues with bootloader usb on irivers, perhaps it would be a good idea to resurrect the usb thread and try it like bootbox does it? 09.11.45 # as i said, i think the main reason was the dead-end error handling in usb_slave_mode() 09.12.11 # are there issues on h100 too? 09.12.59 # No, but since the issues seem to be timing related, this could just be a coincidence 09.13.01 # scoles: If your ipod (with microdrive) is working fine with Apple's firmware, then you can always uninstall Rockbox (instructions are in the manual) if things don't work. Or help fix Rockbox so it does... 09.13.32 # The dead end could be ifdefed out for iriver bootloaders specifically 09.13.35 # amiconn: i think the h300 issues are not timing related, but instead power related 09.13.49 # amiconn: you can have a go at it if you want 09.13.53 # ok i wasnt sure cause its in there with a cf card adapter so i think the new bootloader should be good because of support for cf card we'll see 09.14.19 # LinusN: I could try to hack it in, but I don't have a bdm 09.14.36 # i see 09.14.53 # if you produce a patch you believe in, i can try to find some time to test it 09.15.17 # i have a nightmareish workload atm :-( 09.15.39 # hmm 09.16.17 # Too bad, but in a few days I'd also need a tester for brand-new archos rom flash images on fmrecorder, and wanted to ask you... 09.21.32 Quit here2code (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 09.21.58 Quit GodEater (Remote closed the connection) 09.22.55 Join perrikwp [0] (i=d1a8d351@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-337d7a3f55687bb9) 09.23.55 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 09.24.12 Nick Zom_ is now known as Zom (n=zom@c-73b9e253.09-109-73766c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) 09.27.13 # my fmrecorder is unfortunately not brick-safe 09.27.19 # the serial port is broken 09.31.31 Join Dosu_Tivien [0] (n=nnscript@services.ayerie.org) 09.31.31 Join BigBambi [0] (i=86ceaf40@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/session) 09.31.31 Join here2code [0] (n=mirc@c-24-10-124-172.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) 09.31.31 NHeal brown.freenode.net irc.freenode.net 09.31.31 NJoin Acksaw [0] (n=omgwtfbb@cpc2-stok5-0-0-cust754.bagu.cable.ntl.com) 09.31.31 NJoin neddy1 [0] (n=john@nat/sun/x-2e22ffe529417ec6) 09.31.31 NJoin davidfg4 [0] (n=david@69.51.95.200) 09.31.31 NJoin advcomp2019 [0] (n=advcomp2@unaffiliated/advcomp2019) 09.32.21 # Oh dear god. 09.32.23 # That was insane. 09.32.33 # Maybe someone that can help me joined...XD 09.33.16 # Hurray! More than 7 people in the channel again :) 09.33.46 Quit scoles ("CGI:IRC") 09.33.54 # fyre^OS, sup fyrestorm lol 09.33.57 Join feisar [0] (i=jljhook@89.166.50.63) 09.34.12 # :) 09.34.15 Nick fyre^OS is now known as fyrestorm (n=fyre@cpe-68-173-168-94.nyc.res.rr.com) 09.34.59 # what device do you use rockbox with? 09.35.07 *** SPY: Authentication failed for petur 09.35.08 # ipod 5th gen 30gb 09.35.14 # lol exact same 09.35.15 # p 09.35.24 # what kind of battery life do you get 09.35.24 # ? 09.36.01 # So, uhm 09.36.09 # I have a problem, and I'm hoping someone can help me with it. 09.36.09 # this chat is for dev 09.36.23 # ok lets go to the other chat 09.36.24 # bring it to -community 09.36.26 # And support 09.36.32 # no please dont! 09.36.35 # No, Rockbox support belongs here 09.36.37 # support here... 09.36.44 # assuming of course you actually ask a question 09.37.01 # * Dosu_Tivien waits to ask his question >.>; 09.37.12 # Just ask the question 09.37.13 # * B4gder waits for the waiting to stop 09.37.15 # ok 09.37.16 # Well. 09.37.24 # spit it out already! 09.37.24 # I installed rockbox on my iPod mini, second gen 09.37.34 # And please don't put everything on seperate lines 09.37.35 # It works fine, except for one thing. 09.38.02 # when I turn it off and use it later, nine times out of ten, it produces this really high pitched, really loud, whining tone, and refuses to play music. 09.38.15 # And it won't play music until I reboot it four or five times. 09.39.38 # I have no idea why it would do this, like, at all 09.39.42 # Any help would be appreciated. 09.40.05 # And please don't tell me to update rockbox, cause I only installed it like, less than a week ago. 09.40.09 # >< 09.40.15 # yea im getting that too sometimes Dosu_Tivien 09.40.22 # Dosu_Tivien: That can be a long time 09.40.29 # Well, I mean 09.40.34 # sometimes would be fine for me 09.40.40 # it's just like, near ALWAYS for me. 09.40.42 # rockbox is rebuilt daily 09.40.48 # try the newest build 09.40.51 # its easy 09.40.53 # I'm not saying that is the problem, but there is a reason we ask you to update and try immediately before asking for supporrt 09.41.17 # Can everyone *please* stop using the enter key as punctuation. Put thoughts on one line 09.41.44 # lol3izer: And Rockbox is rebuilt on every source code change which is normally many times per day 09.42.22 # i hope accessory support gets merged soon 09.43.04 # Ok, so, is updating any notion of easy? Or will I have to wipe and reinstall my ipod again? 09.43.10 # No, it is easy 09.43.22 # Just run rbutil and select install Rockbox 09.44.10 # not the full installation, mind you...the manual goes into more detail 09.44.28 # \it asys it's already installed and up to date. 09.44.39 # says* 09.44.41 # Jeez, I can't type... 09.44.59 # Are you sure you didn't try to install the bootloader? 09.45.22 Join jfc^3 [0] (n=john@dpc691978010.direcpc.com) 09.45.25 # hold on 09.45.31 # It is Rockbox you want (the build), not the bootloader - and I can assure you that Rockbox has had many updates since last week 09.45.37 # ok 09.45.40 # reinstalling rockbox 09.45.51 Quit jfc (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 09.46.47 Quit tchan (SendQ exceeded) 09.47.05 Join MethoS- [0] (n=clemens@host-091-097-242-245.ewe-ip-backbone.de) 09.47.17 # ok 09.47.22 # rockbox has been totally reinstalled. 09.47.36 # what is the version number? 09.47.55 # rockbox (base) r18639 09.48.14 Join tchan [0] (n=tchan@lunar-linux/developer/tchan) 09.50.27 # were the release build version strings changed to something like 3.0? 10.00.31 # huh? 10.00.34 # Oh, uh, hang on. 10.00.42 # the iPod's still plugged into my computer. 10.00.59 # where do I check that? 10.01.16 # er, look if the cable is connected? 10.01.27 # no no 10.01.32 # the version thing he was talking about 10.01.33 # XD 10.02.30 Join neddy [0] (n=john@nat/sun/x-0d96850aa3ea9135) 10.02.55 # with the ipod still plugged in or not?...and once again, please keep complete thoughts on one line...it makes it much easier to read and is less spammy 10.03.13 # Well, the iPod is off the cable now, but I can plug it back in... 10.04.01 Join ajonat [0] (n=ajonat@190.48.120.246) 10.04.03 # it is in the system menu, but the manual should go into all this 10.04.31 # r18639M-080925 10.05.12 Join Thundercloud [0] (n=thunderc@cpc1-hem18-0-0-cust660.lutn.cable.ntl.com) 10.05.13 # cool, the update was good. No see if you still have the problem 10.05.18 # ok 10.05.22 # one second. 10.06.08 # ...Yep. 10.06.17 # It came up and is now squealing in my ear...loudly. 10.06.36 # http://www.google.com/search?q=399999999999999-399999999999998 10.06.37 # lol 10.06.41 # sorry 10.06.52 # lol3izer: ON TOPIC 10.06.54 # lol3izer: dont do that.. 10.07.10 # yea i ment to paste it in the other channel 10.07.51 # Dosu_Tivien: and you got this build from rbutil? 10.08.09 # scorche: Yes sir. And less than 15 minutes ago as well. 10.09.01 # Dosu_Tivien: do you get the same effects with teh original firmware? 10.09.16 # No, never once. 10.09.29 Quit krazykit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 10.10.18 # could you try now? 10.10.33 # what, the original firmware? 10.10.40 # yes 10.10.56 # Well, I -could-...but it wouldn't have any music to play, since i restructured the directories. 10.11.26 # is it only when you play music in rockbox? 10.11.34 # No 10.11.38 # It happens when rockbox boots. 10.11.48 # But it only happens about 85% of the time 10.12.00 # then just boot into the original firmware and see 10.12.10 # Ok 10.12.16 # * Dosu_Tivien goes to manual dig for the button to do that. 10.15.14 Join GodEater [0] (i=c2cbc962@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-453ec33113a5d939) 10.16.17 # Well, it's not playing any music, because it doesn't have any...but it's not making that stupid noise. 10.17.01 # However...now I have another problem 10.17.16 # now it's not playing music, or making noise at all, it's loading the music file and becoming stuck on 0:00 10.17.24 # Even though it says it's playing, it's doing nothing. 10.17.25 Quit here2code (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 10.17.43 Join here2code [0] (n=mirc@c-24-10-124-172.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) 10.22.44 Quit Thundercloud (Remote closed the connection) 10.26.44 Join dabujo [0] (i=xx@p4FDB26EB.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 10.27.26 Join lasser [0] (n=f@Waa5e.w.pppool.de) 10.34.07 # Dosu_Tivien: do you have keyclicks enabled in rockbox? 10.34.20 # Yes, why? 10.35.31 # Try turning it off, and see if that helps. There are some issues with it causing high-pitched noises when pressing strange key combinations at least 10.38.27 # ok 10.38.28 # i'll try that 10.47.08 Join culture [0] (n=sam@cpc1-bele3-0-0-cust658.belf.cable.ntl.com) 10.49.15 Join in-ferno [0] (i=HydraIRC@ip-62-241-64-208.evc.net) 10.53.11 # * JdGordon throws something heavy at the recent bookmark list 10.53.21 # this would be so much easier if that wasnt there :'( 10.53.41 # Oi. Don't you break my beloved recent bookmarks list! 10.55.02 # i've almost got it.... but its not as nice as I'd like 10.55.15 # not to mentino i _still_ dont get it 100% :p 10.55.23 # In code terms or in use terms? 10.56.28 # use 10.57.53 # For me, it keeps a nice list of the last bookmark I made in say 10 playlists (only one entry for playlists). Then to resume something I don't need to go trawling through directories to find the actual bookmark file. It also acts as a handy reminder - oh yeah, I hadn't finished that had I etc. 10.58.19 # * one entry per plqylist 10.58.52 # and the "unique" options... is that for the playlist? or the track being played? 10.59.34 # This would be easy if I only needed to keep track of the actual bookmark filenames 10.59.43 # but that wont be so nice to use 11.00.21 # playlist I believe 11.01.02 Join goffa_ [0] (n=goffa@216.220.23.105) 11.02.48 # ok, bugger this... im simplifying it.... it will display the bookmark filename and the track that was bookmarked. selecting it will open it up and you can choose which point to start from there? 11.03.07 # That isn't as nice 11.03.58 # But as I'm not doing the coding I have no real say :) 11.05.23 # yeah I know (to it not being as nice)... at least thats a start.. it can be fixed up later 11.05.25 Quit in-ferno (" HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- Would you like to know more?") 11.05.39 # * JdGordon just wants to get *something* working to keep his interest 11.05.45 # hehe :) 11.11.30 Quit goffa (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 11.16.06 Quit kronflux ("Leaving") 11.18.38 Quit here2code (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 11.18.44 Join here2code [0] (n=mirc@c-24-10-124-172.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) 11.23.59 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 11.31.40 Join Nico_P [50] (n=nicolas@rockbox/developer/NicoP) 11.31.41 # LinusN: Oh?! 11.32.34 # it never worked 11.32.45 # thus, i have never flashed it 11.35.03 # Well, you could have flashed it with a tested image 11.35.21 # You only need the serial to recover from a non-working image 11.37.51 Quit reacocard (".") 11.39.27 # Nico_P: You there? 11.39.32 # yes 11.40.18 # Do you fancy replying to the last comment on linuxfr that claims that album art is still not in trunk? I can't be bothered to create an account :) 11.40.39 # ok 11.40.45 # Thanks :) 11.41.00 # on the latest builds picture flow crashes for me on a 5.5 20gig ipod 11.41.05 # does anyone else have this issue? 11.41.11 # I couldn't let a slur like that past. Incidently, I thought your reply was good - the right tone :) 11.41.54 # thanks :) 11.41.59 # "could not allocate temporary buffer" 11.42.05 # then "plugin returned error" 11.42.46 # lol3izer: That's not a crash, that's just a failure to run.... No idea why it would do that though. 11.43.02 # well its happening :( 11.44.16 Join tvelocity [0] (n=tony@195.167.65.108) 11.44.31 # increase the ram 11.44.40 # nm wrong server/room 11.45.52 # lol3izer, same error here on e280 rockbox 18561 :-( 11.46.03 # we should file a bug report 11.46.34 Quit here2code (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 11.46.35 # BigBambi: done. I hope it doesn't sound too harsh... 11.46.48 Join here2code [0] (n=mirc@c-24-10-124-172.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) 11.47.11 # Nico_P: No, I don't think so 11.52.52 # lol3izer, r18341 has a running PictureFlow. Since then there were two changes: 18454 and 18537. Perhaps it's an introduced bug... Could you do that, please? 11.53.26 # you mean try that? 11.54.05 # lol3izer, no, the bug report 11.54.12 # i dont have a login :( 11.54.25 # and i cant get at my email right now 11.54.27 # or i would 11.59.43 # lol3izer, reset your settings and then try again. Here this does the job... 12.01.00 # but first save your settings so you can easily load them back later. 12.10.53 Join hullap [0] (n=hullap@unaffiliated/hullap) 12.11.40 # hi, congrats on 3.0 release 12.13.10 Join mf0102 [0] (n=michi@85-127-39-37.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at) 12.20.04 # hullap: thanks :) 12.20.14 # :> 12.29.22 Quit Acksaw (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 12.29.43 Join Acksaw [0] (n=omgwtfbb@cpc2-stok5-0-0-cust754.bagu.cable.ntl.com) 12.31.18 Quit hullap ("A clever person solves a problem.A wise person avoids it.-- Einstein") 12.38.17 Join Chada [0] (n=5d615e65@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-f37451498baf4cff) 12.39.55 Join MethoS-- [0] (n=clemens@dyndsl-085-016-166-034.ewe-ip-backbone.de) 12.40.18 Quit mf0102 (Remote closed the connection) 12.41.31 # :'( bloody hell 12.41.38 # you change one little thing and the whole thing dies! 12.43.03 # Welcome to Rockbox. 12.43.17 Quit Chada ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)") 12.47.14 # so would you not recommend updating rockbox yet for an e270? 12.47.33 # havien: From what to what? 12.47.41 # havien: I don't think JdGordon has commited what he just broke 12.47.43 # so don't worry 12.47.50 # at least, I hope not! 12.47.52 # k 12.48.01 # * GodEater gives JdGordon the frowning of a lifetime 12.48.03 # i don't remember what version i have installed 12.48.07 # bah 12.48.12 # havien: it's easy to check 12.48.23 # GodEater: your gonna send me postal one day... 12.48.37 # me personally? I feel honoured... 12.48.40 # i don't have it infront of me atm either :/ 12.48.58 # havien: that makes it challenging then ;) 12.56.08 Quit MethoS- (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 12.57.01 # havien: you're perfectly safe installing 3.0 12.58.14 # k 12.58.38 # Nico_P: id3->offset and id3->elapsed are the correct places to the get tracks current position right? 12.59.15 Join J-23 [0] (n=aldwulf@a105.net128.okay.pl) 12.59.53 # JdGordon: elapsed is ok... 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(or do you get this error also when you do this ?) 17.57.04 # yes, i tried that at first, but it didnt work. So i tried to create the folder, same thing 17.57.25 # i can create regular folders, and read/write. but i cant create ".rockbox" 17.57.51 # zicho: How are you trying to create it? 17.58.06 # "sudo mkdir .rockbox" 17.58.06 # hm, i/o error probably means a bad connection (usb cable/port) or perhaps the disk is damaged (try checkdisk/fsck.vfat) ? 17.58.27 # Did the unzip give the same i/o error? 17.58.31 # zicho: If you're using Windows, you can't create folders with a . at the beginning; Windows doesn't allow it. 17.59.01 # i use ubuntu 17.59.21 # zicho: Did you try Rockbox Utility? 17.59.34 # And what player (you forgot to mention that). 18.00.11 # Rockbox utility wont work either, and i use Gigabeat F 18.00.54 # if he gets i/o errors, rbutil wont help. please check your disk for errors... 18.01.17 # and how can i do that? 18.01.20 # or try with another usb cable or/and usb port... 18.01.45 # on linux use fsck.vfat to check the disk, i think... 18.02.32 # LambdaCalculus37: Windows *does* allow creating .dotfolders and .dotfiles, just explorer doesn't 18.05.31 # amiconn: Through the command prompt, right? 18.06.07 # * LambdaCalculus37 should've figured, but since he rarely uses Windows anymore, he forgot some of the intricacies 18.13.05 Join lws009 [0] (n=54c22ee3@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-0b9b414a7f5723fc) 18.13.14 # hi all 18.13.31 # Hello 18.13.41 # explorer is dumb 18.15.10 # (and windows file APIs are dumb - you can have paths up to 32k in length, but you have to use the APIs in special way to manipulate paths longer than 260 characters - and of course, no file manager does that) 18.15.57 # ender`: And that's off-topic here. 18.17.05 Join faemir [0] (n=quassel@88-106-209-242.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) 18.18.17 # Hi 18.20.23 # lws009: Do you have something to say? 18.20.31 # lws009: also hi :) 18.21.13 Join tvelocity[a] [0] (n=tony@195.167.65.109) 18.22.44 Quit tvelocity (Connection timed out) 18.24.05 Join perrikwp [0] (i=98213dc1@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-a627c791d5ee7dbb) 18.25.07 Join herrwaldo [0] (n=waldo@ip-81-11-210-139.dsl.scarlet.be) 18.25.57 # I was wondering how come that the iPod 6G is still not covered by rockbox? 18.26.43 # Because of A) firmware encryption, B) undocumented hardware, and C) lack of interest. 18.27.39 # ow, so, there isn't another program orso to change te firmware? 18.28.08 # Nope. 18.28.42 # ow, thats not so fun for me xd 18.29.04 # i was planning to change it, so it was a bit difrent (i was bored of the way it looked 18.29.57 # are you 1 of the programmers from rockbox? 18.31.12 Join BigBambi [0] (n=Alex@rockbox/staff/BigBambi) 18.35.16 Join MethoS- [0] (n=clemens@host-091-097-241-239.ewe-ip-backbone.de) 18.35.47 Join mf0102 [0] (n=michi@85-127-39-37.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at) 18.38.02 Join miepchen^schlaf [0] (n=miepchen@p579ECDA2.dip.t-dialin.net) 18.41.35 # is there anyway to make rockbox look for files in a folder other than ".rockbox"? 18.42.07 Join petur [50] (n=petur@rockbox/developer/petur) 18.43.16 # zicho: which files do you mean ? music ? 18.43.36 # no, the rockbox-files, like wps n shit 18.43.47 # * domonoky doesnt know shit :-) 18.44.10 # because for some reason i cant create a folder called .rockbox without getting i/o-errors 18.44.11 # zicho: if you compile rockbox yourself its possible, otherwise not... 18.44.43 # zicho: did check your disk ? tried different usb ports/ cables ? 18.45.01 # another folder wont help if you get io errors... 18.45.36 # yeah, i tried it 18.45.42 # doesnt seem to be anything wrong with it 18.46.00 # it have never been, this problem started the same time as rockbox got deleted 18.46.13 # but at least it has the bootloader 18.46.46 # rockbox got deleted ? how ? 18.47.21 # i accidentally deleted it because of a _really_ clumsy mistake 18.47.53 # :-) 18.49.44 # so fsck.vfat doesnt find any error on the dap ? 18.50.00 # nope 18.50.51 Join atto [0] (n=xmrzeex@cpe-76-168-121-188.socal.res.rr.com) 18.51.42 Join toffe82_ [0] (n=chatzill@h-74-0-180-178.snvacaid.covad.net) 18.52.16 Quit toffe82_ (Remote closed the connection) 18.52.27 # are there any plans to include Creative mp3 players on the supported mp3 player list? 18.52.51 # ports are written by interested owners, atto 18.53.05 # that means there are no timelines, even if a port is in progress. 18.53.24 # atto: rockbox doesnt make any plans. if someone with a creative player, the apropriate knowledge and enough time ports it, we would be happy :-) 18.54.03 Join jhulst [0] (n=jhulst@unaffiliated/jhulst) 18.54.51 Join lol3izer_ [0] (i=lol3@72.2.63.189) 18.55.10 # a have a creative player but unfortunately I don't have the skills needed... thank you for your help 18.55.23 Quit atto (Client Quit) 18.57.15 # man, this shit is confusing. 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I thought it was 100x100 but because it crops it, it might be more like 75x75. Correct? 20.21.16 # and they always mention rbutil, but rbutil wont install 3.0 at moment.. :-) 20.23.44 # _MMA_: I believe the best way to find out is to look in the .wps file and see what it says. 20.24.28 # <_MMA_> Llorean: Ok. I thought it was stored in a file but couldn't remember for the life of me. 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"Rockbox Info" screen (though never tried myself so far) 20.40.21 Quit miepchen^schlaf (Remote closed the connection) 20.41.01 Join miepchen^schlaf [0] (n=miepchen@p579ECDA2.dip.t-dialin.net) 20.43.39 # Bagder: do you have download statistics so far? 20.44.25 # btw, I wonder whether we could make the frontpage on /. 20.49.26 Quit Schmogel (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 20.50.51 Join Schmogel [0] (n=Miranda@p3EE21957.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 20.52.07 Join goffa [0] (n=goffa@216.220.23.105) 20.54.09 Join Wictor [0] (n=Wictor@0x57366a52.bynxx19.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) 20.54.15 # hello 20.54.30 # Where can I see pictures or virtual rockbox 3.0? 20.55.21 # in the manual 20.55.42 # http://www.rockbox.org/download/ 20.55.44 Join reacocard [0] (n=reacocar@WL-251.CINE.HMC.Edu) 20.56.54 Quit homielowe (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 20.57.36 Quit here2code (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 20.57.46 Join here2code [0] (n=mirc@c-24-10-124-172.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) 20.57.59 # oh, btw - the 60gig ipod manual is not working 20.58.27 # What do you mean, the 60GB iPod manual? 20.58.41 # Which iPod is that? The iPod photo/color or the iPod video? 20.59.16 # * LambdaCalculus37 goes to look 20.59.35 # Wictor: Use the manual for the 30GB video for now; it's the same. 20.59.48 Join bluebrother [0] (n=dom@rockbox/staff/bluebrother) 21.00.03 Quit tessarakt ("Client exiting") 21.00.19 # Wictor: indeed it isn't - it might just be mirror issues 21.01.08 # It isn't mirror issues - it isn't on haxx.rockbox.org either 21.01.30 # Bagder: you about? There appear to be some manuals missing - e.g. 60/80 GB ipod 21.02.34 Quit gevaerts (Nick collision from services.) 21.02.46 Join gevaerts [0] (n=fg@rockbox/developer/gevaerts) 21.02.48 # the dialy built ones? 21.02.57 Join funman [0] (n=fun@AAnnecy-257-1-67-132.w90-36.abo.wanadoo.fr) 21.03.01 # no, the release ones 21.03.11 # There are quite a few that aren't there 21.03.25 # what is the best player to put rockbox on? :p 21.03.27 # Don't work from the page, and aren't at http://haxx.rockbox.org/release/3.0/ 21.03.33 # Wictor: Not an ipod 21.03.41 # Other than that, depends what features you want 21.03.53 # Wictor: See www.rockbox.org/wiki/BuyersGuide 21.03.56 # what can I get with the best player I cant get with the rest? 21.03.58 # oh alright 21.04.22 Quit goffa_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 21.04.24 # Wictor: It is excellent with ipods, but if you were going to buy one I'd recommend others first. 21.04.26 Join tessarakt [0] (n=jens@e180072253.adsl.alicedsl.de) 21.05.33 Quit Rob2222 () 21.05.47 # that chart is so confusing :p 21.06.04 # Wictor: All features of Rockbox are available on all players if hardware allows - the ipods aren't the best hardware, and as we have no docs on them all work has been done by reverse engineering. 21.06.06 Join Rob2222 [0] (n=Miranda@p4FDCC3D6.dip.t-dialin.net) 21.07.08 # what did you guys install rockbox on? 21.09.34 # I have it on a gigabeat S120, gigabeat H60, iriver H140, Sansa e260 and Sansa c240 21.09.44 # F60 not H60 21.10.38 # Youre developer or just a fanatic? :D 21.10.53 # or rich ? ;) 21.11.32 # or the d-word? 21.12.13 # ..divorced? 21.12.29 # drug addict? 21.12.35 # On topic please chaps 21.12.35 # drunk? 21.18.21 Quit funman ("leaving") 21.19.23 # You killed it, BigBambi : P 21.20.48 # :'( 21.20.56 # his mom was dead 21.21.06 # On topic. 21.21.26 # sorry 21.21.43 Join vcardenas [0] (n=c9f46d2e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-99eb5eb9a603a83b) 21.22.09 Join advcomp2019_ [0] (n=advcomp2@unaffiliated/advcomp2019) 21.23.11 # bravo for your work on rockbox for ipod mini 21.23.22 # it work perfect :p 21.23.56 # On behalf of those that did the work, thanks :) 21.24.07 Quit tvelocity[a] (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 21.24.11 # i just have one problem ^^ : double entries in the database 21.24.15 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 21.24.41 Join tvelocity[a] [0] (n=tony@195.167.65.109) 21.24.46 # when i naviguate in the database i have sometimes 21.24.52 # 2 times the same track 21.24.58 # a) Try running the disktidy plugin, b) It is usually a good idea to have dircache and database load to RAM turned on 21.25.01 Quit advcomp2019 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 21.25.55 # Then reinitialise the database. If you still have duplicates, add the two duplicates to a playlist then use the playlist viewer to see if they are actually the same physical track on the hard drive 21.26.18 # yes it was the same physical trak 21.26.20 # track 21.26.26 # You checked? 21.26.53 # yes 21.27.15 # By looking at the path to the each of them in the playlist viewer? 21.27.35 # yes it was the same track :) 21.28.07 # Because if e.g. you had previously deleted one windows would put it in a hidden recycle bin directory which Rockbox would still find 21.28.30 # It being the same track to listen to doesn't immediately mean it is the same one on disk 21.28.35 Quit bughunter2 ("bye") 21.28.46 # no it wasreally the same path 21.28.50 Join bughunter2 [0] (n=Vista@77.164.66.126) 21.29.02 # OK, well try the first two things I suggested then 21.29.56 # ok, the double in the new database disapear ;) thanks 21.30.09 # No probs 21.30.39 # Sorry for giving such 'obvious' instructions, but we have no way of knowing how literate anyone is :) 21.31.41 # ^^ 21.31.43 # okok 21.31.58 Quit krazykit ("Connection reset by beer") 21.32.37 # i have another question :) 21.32.46 # Sure 21.33.03 # did it exist a "game boy" emulator for rockbox on ipod mini 2g ? 21.33.23 # I'm not sure if it has been adjusted for that yet 21.33.29 # cause i want to play to "super mario" on my ipod ^^ 21.33.57 # i see that it existe on "ipodlinux" 21.34.12 # but i don't find him on rockbox :( 21.34.31 # No, looks like you are out of luck I'm afraid 21.34.47 # ipodlinux and rockbox are completely different 21.34.53 # http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/PluginIndex 21.37.37 # ok thanks ;) 21.37.50 Join allele [0] (n=allele@CPE-69-23-137-242.wi.res.rr.com) 21.37.53 # thank you very much :D 21.38.16 # you are welcome :) 21.39.10 # good night everybody :) 21.45.16 Join webguest53 [0] (n=8d9e0809@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-e2f4e18b0e15fcbf) 21.45.58 Quit edhelas ("WeeChat 0.2.6") 21.47.11 Quit reacocard (".") 21.47.29 Join reacocard [0] (n=reacocar@WL-251.CINE.HMC.Edu) 21.47.54 Quit allele ("Java user signed off") 21.48.10 # ds 21.49.01 # does rockbox 3.0 support the ITrip for the 30GB video Ipod? 21.51.57 # any work on the new nanomatic? 21.52.37 # None. 21.54.20 # webguest53: You can look up here:http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IpodAccessories 21.54.58 Quit webguest53 ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 21.54.59 # webguest53: If not, you can try an unsupported build from here: http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=17841.0 21.56.09 Join perrikwp [0] (i=d1a8d351@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-8b47795693588b7d) 21.58.28 Quit LambdaCalculus37 ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") 22.00.51 Join techrush [0] (n=techrush@adsl-75-4-21-85.dsl.irvnca.sbcglobal.net) 22.03.44 Part J-23 22.04.08 Quit jhulst (Connection timed out) 22.04.09 Join ompaul [0] (n=ompaul@gnewsense/friend/ompaul) 22.05.08 Join mcuelenaere [0] (n=mcuelena@rockbox/developer/mcuelenaere) 22.05.48 # MarcGuay: what do you mean with the CTL file? 22.07.26 Join jeffdameth1 [0] (n=jeff@dyndsl-091-096-043-174.ewe-ip-backbone.de) 22.09.33 Quit lws009 ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 22.11.49 Quit super () 22.12.04 # here2code: around? 22.19.40 Quit bluebrother (Nick collision from services.) 22.19.45 Join bluebrother [0] (n=dom@rockbox/staff/bluebrother) 22.21.50 Join toffe82 [0] (n=chatzill@adsl-76-240-236-163.dsl.frs2ca.sbcglobal.net) 22.22.10 Quit jeffdameth (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 22.23.37 Quit herrwaldo (Remote closed the connection) 22.25.17 # domonoky: I'm going to release rbutil 1.0.7. Anything in your mind we shouldn't forget before that? 22.26.45 Join herrwaldo [0] (n=waldo@ip-81-11-212-251.dsl.scarlet.be) 22.28.21 Quit reacocard (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 22.32.58 Quit mirak (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 22.33.43 # bluebrother: so is it tuned to t.r.o now? 22.34.16 Join mirak [0] (n=mirak@81-66-70-98.rev.numericable.fr) 22.34.54 # http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/25/rockbox-3-0-firmware-breathes-the-life-back-into-your-mp3-player/ 22.34.59 # here2code: I'll try to be online tommorow night (GMT+2) at about the same hours as I said in the forum posts; if you have any other (no real-time response needing) questions, send me a PM through the forums 22.35.25 # the server is running warm no doubt 22.36.21 # scorche|sh: yes. 22.37.14 # bluebrother: go for it... 22.37.31 Join reacocard [0] (n=reacocar@134.173.59.155) 22.37.47 # Bagder: and the first comment is about the zune... 22.37.49 # Bagder: Aww, no Zune support? What are you guys spending your time on? 22.38.22 # * bluebrother notices some glitches due to the slow server ... 22.39.34 # bluebrother: probably also outright refusal to get contents at times 22.40.46 # yep. rbutil needs better handling of this as it can cause segfaults. 22.40.59 # but no showstopper for 1.0.7 22.41.30 Join Twst [0] (n=mhesten@242.80-202-24.nextgentel.com) 22.42.55 Quit vcardenas ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)") 22.43.30 # Bagder: Did you see my message about the manuals? 22.43.56 # I did now... lemme check 22.44.12 Join cmz [0] (n=cmz@g230065187.adsl.alicedsl.de) 22.44.46 Quit mcuelenaere () 22.44.50 # oh, if I can reach the site... 22.45.00 # hehe :) 22.45.04 # wow, rockbox.org is _really_ slow right now. 22.45.20 # it is on 150 clients nonstop basically 22.45.31 # Bagder: You can see directly here: http://haxx.rockbox.org/release/3.0/ 22.45.36 # wow 22.46.12 # BigBambi: yeah, but I wanted to check what the download page showed. Anyway, I can check behind the scenes instead 22.46.19 # ah, OK 22.46.40 Quit moos ("reboot") 22.47.10 # any technical gurus out there? 22.47.28 # cmz: There are generally plenty - it is best just to ask 22.47.29 # cmz: just ask and you'll find out 22.47.33 # cmz: it is typically better to ask your actual question right out 22.47.48 # Or else you get loads of people telling you to ask :) 22.47.58 # you guys are really sure there are technical gurus in this channel? 22.48.12 # how could it with no Zune port? 22.48.13 # no...dont bother asking! ;) 22.48.31 # I want it for the Ipod Classic! 22.48.34 # right. Right now i'm using the utility for mac and still it says could not open ipod 22.48.36 # *g* 22.48.39 # any ideas? 22.48.44 # cmz: Which ipod? 22.48.52 Join Nibbler [0] (n=Nibbler@93-125-140-196.dsl.alice.nl) 22.48.54 # nano 1st gen 22.48.56 # 2gb 22.49.03 # does autodetection figure the correct Ipod? 22.49.26 # autodetection doesn't figure out anything :( 22.49.33 Join mindbender2 [0] (n=Miranda@85-126-24-46.teleworker.xdsl-line.inode.at) 22.49.48 # rockbox.org down? 22.49.55 # too much traffic because of 3.0 ? 22.49.57 # no, just very slow 22.50.02 # mindbender2: yes, that 22.50.10 # thought so. 22.50.13 # edgadgeted and gizmoded 22.50.20 # I'm using 10.5.5 and my ipod is formatted as FAT32 22.50.30 # 10.5.5? 22.50.32 # congratulations...great a new release. 22.50.40 # mindbender2: thanks! 22.50.53 # OS X 22.50.56 # aha 22.52.10 # just can't figure out why it wouldn't connect to my ipod. maybe i spent to much time on the oktoberfest today ;) 22.52.57 Join homielowe [0] (n=homielow@S01060011954e0432.no.shawcable.net) 22.53.11 Part homielowe 22.53.19 Quit BigBambi (Remote closed the connection) 22.53.42 # which device is the best for running rockbox on it currently? i only have old ones 22.53.46 Part zicho ("ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)") 22.53.54 # (sorry, i can`T access the wiki) 22.54.15 # old doesnt necessarily mean bad 22.54.25 # it depends on which purpose you are after 22.54.53 # i want more than i can do with the archos player... 22.55.06 # the display isn`t that great.... 22.55.16 # with old i mean the old ones ;) 22.55.48 # pretty much any SWcodec target would be nice though...i typically recommend the Gigabeat F, but depending on yur purposes, others could be better 22.55.57 # s/though/then 22.56.05 Join BigBambi [0] (n=Alex@rockbox/staff/BigBambi) 22.56.09 # hm still says: Download finished. And then: Could not open ipod 22.56.23 # mindbender2: Do you want flash or hard disk, colour screen, video playback, recording, FM radio, long battery life, .... 22.56.24 # BigBambi: manuals and voice for ipodvideo64mb should be fine now 22.56.35 # cool, thanks very much :) 22.56.43 # you just can't get the page to see ;-) 22.56.51 # cmz: i am not sure how it works on OSX, but does itunes have some sort of "enable disk mode" option? 22.57.08 # Bagder: Bagder ipodmini1g also seems to be missing 22.57.21 # rockbox on the gigabeat f looks cool! 22.57.30 # just found it on youtube 22.57.37 # true, do we usually have a separate for the mini1g? 22.57.49 # scorche|sh: no. Itunes thinks the ipod is in "service mode" 22.57.50 Join homielowe [0] (n=homielow@unaffiliated/homielowe) 22.58.13 # cmz: Are you sure it's a 1st gen Nano? 22.58.14 # Bagder: I'm not sure 22.58.37 # I imagine not actually - but I didn't know there was for the video either 22.58.45 # linuxstb: yep. Steel back, black front. 2gig 22.58.50 Join moos [0] (i=moos@81-66-128-18.rev.numericable.fr) 22.58.57 # s/video/60/80GB 22.59.13 # BigBambi: no, the video problem was that I didn't cut off the '64mb' from the name for that manual 22.59.19 # so it shows the same one as for the regualr one 22.59.23 # ah right 22.59.27 # link not manual issue 22.59.32 # exactly 22.59.35 # cmz: can you choose the specific mount point? 22.59.57 # mini is the same it seems 23.00.04 # h100/h120 OK? 23.00.12 # yes, I remembered that 23.00.12 # and recorder 8 MB :) 23.00.16 # that too 23.00.19 # hehe :) 23.00.22 # scorche|sh: currently its mounted under /volumes/cmznano. I can choose that in the menue 23.01.48 Quit tessarakt (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 23.01.57 # First i followed the guide for reformatting the ipod with fat32, which seemed to be fine. 23.02.03 Quit mirak ("Ex-Chat") 23.02.23 # cmz: Does the Apple firmware still work? 23.04.21 Join Aevum [0] (n=Aevum@203.42.217.87.dynamic.jazztel.es) 23.04.33 # the webpage is down 23.04.40 # Sort of 23.04.45 # It is just under heavy load 23.05.09 # linuxstb: how can i figure that out? 23.05.19 # cmz: Just start it normally. 23.05.51 # linuxstb: it says: use itunes to restore 23.05.57 Join massiveH [0] (n=massiveH@ool-44c48a1e.dyn.optonline.net) 23.06.05 # i guess the classic is still off limits, right ? 23.06.18 # yes 23.06.29 # cmz: Then you did something wrong in the conversion to FAT32. You need a working FAT32 ipod to install Rockbox onto. I would suggest restoring, then trying the instructions again. 23.08.03 Join tessarakt [0] (n=jens@e180072253.adsl.alicedsl.de) 23.10.08 Join LambdaCalculus37 [0] (n=LambdaCa@nmd.sbx00837.newyony.wayport.net) 23.10.08 Join mirak [0] (n=mirak@81-66-70-98.rev.numericable.fr) 23.10.46 Join KEROLiUKAS1 [0] (n=kp@c-67-163-5-102.hsd1.il.comcast.net) 23.11.00 Quit KEROLiUKAS1 (Client Quit) 23.11.04 Join KEROLiUKAS [0] (n=kp@c-67-163-5-102.hsd1.il.comcast.net) 23.11.46 Join Gareth [0] (i=gareth@www.wiked.org) 23.11.50 # is the rockpage download page down due to overwhelming response? 23.12.11 # yes 23.12.16 # it's not quite down, just overloaded 23.12.21 # Hello. 23.12.35 Join homielowe_ [0] (n=homielow@S0106001a70694b9a.no.shawcable.net) 23.12.43 Quit homielowe_ (Client Quit) 23.13.09 Join j6 [0] (n=nullbyte@bas12-toronto12-1096759706.dsl.bell.ca) 23.13.29 # Hey there :) is it possible to make the database only scan in a specific folder? 23.14.02 # because i have a shitload of NSF and SID files, and I dont want them cluttering everything up 23.14.19 # you can opt-out directories at least 23.14.30 # Yes. Add a database.ignore file to each folder you don't want the database to pick up. 23.14.32 # j6: you can control what the db scans with "database.ignore" and "database.unignore" files 23.14.55 # there is already one such file in the .rockbox dir :-) 23.15.12 # oh awesome, thank you very much :) didnt see them 23.15.47 # linuxstb: okay. i'll try that. thx 23.17.12 # a favourite engadget comment: "could they not have kept the award-laden UI and packaged the codec support as a plugin?" 23.17.32 Quit Horscht ("User was distributing pornography on server; system seized by FBI") 23.18.57 Quit Acksaw (Connection timed out) 23.19.18 # * KEROLiUKAS waits impatiently to download 3.0 23.19.43 # * scorche|sh groans 23.19.44 # KEROLiUKAS: http://download.rockbox.org/release/3.0 23.19.48 # sup? 23.20.02 Join voltagex [0] (n=voltagex@123-243-213-146.static.tpgi.com.au) 23.20.05 # oo sweet 23.20.07 # why are you waiting to download it? 23.20.08 # site down? 23.20.22 # KEROLiUKAS: the fancy clicky links aren't there, but the files are ;) 23.20.43 # Thanks 23.20.47 # voltagex: just slow from all the traffic 23.20.51 Join Horscht [0] (n=Horscht@xbmc/user/horscht) 23.20.57 # ok 23.22.23 Topic "Please read before speaking: http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/IrcGuidelines | Please direct offtopic/social chat to #rockbox-community | 3.0! 3.0! 3.0! 3.0! | No, the site is not down. Just a bit slow from all the traffic...patience!" by ChanServ (ChanServ@services.) 23.22.38 # ok, I upped the limit to 200 23.22.42 # sansae200-3.0-english.zip is just the voice right? 23.22.45 # and wham, we are at 200 23.22.55 # are you the siteowner ? 23.23.13 # yes that's the voice and yes I'm one of the guys 23.23.18 # cool 23.23.33 # ughh, time to upgrade 23.24.18 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 23.25.07 # wow, all I have to do is copy new files... 23.25.12 # now this is the type of upgrade I like 23.25.15 Quit here2code (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 23.25.24 Join here2code [0] (n=mirc@c-24-10-124-172.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) 23.26.19 Join tvelocity[away] [0] (n=tony@gw1.mycosmos.gr) 23.26.20 Join funman [0] (n=fun@AAnnecy-257-1-67-132.w90-36.abo.wanadoo.fr) 23.27.17 Quit tvelocity[a] (Connection timed out) 23.27.25 Quit bmbl ("Woah!") 23.29.06 # how come the now playing is all different/weird/basic ? 23.29.28 # not as it was with this theme 23.29.49 Quit mf0102 (Remote closed the connection) 23.29.49 # KEROLiUKAS: sounds like the theme you are using was an old broken one.. 23.30.05 # using dockpod 23.30.07 # KEROLiUKAS: changes wps syntacs, your old theme is now invalid... choose a new one :-) 23.30.09 # yea ig uess 23.30.34 # cabbiev2 is that a new 1 ? 23.30.36 # or take a look at the wiki, perhaps there is a updated version there. 23.30.49 # the wiki is hard to get to atm... 23.31.06 # cabbiev2 is the new default theme, but you can choose or build your own as you like. 23.31.22 # it's pretty nice 23.31.31 # but I might make a new 1 to show support 23.32.11 # Bagder: use torrents for rockbox 4.0? ;) 23.32.25 # the downloads are no problem 23.32.32 # we have big fat servers for them 23.32.43 # this is web site visitors 23.32.59 # oh 23.33.07 Join saratoga [0] (i=9803c6dd@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-d7ad0c6c094256d3) 23.33.13 # we had exactly the same issue for VideoLAN ... hehe. websites killed us, not the downloads 23.33.17 Quit homielowe (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 23.33.44 # Bagder: you use Apache? 23.33.47 # yes 23.33.48 # I can't find a setting for this, but it's def. different than b4...now when I press the home button (power btn) it goes to main menu, but also pauses/stops music 23.33.55 # how can it do that without pausing? 23.34.08 # take a look at the manual ? 23.34.21 # lol, good idea 23.34.22 # silly me 23.34.30 # Bagder: if possible, you might want to try lighttpd or nginx for the website ... at least for portions that don't use php 23.34.31 # Bagder: did you ever try out the JTAG on your sansa? 23.34.35 # it really brings the load down 23.34.42 # saratoga: no I didn't 23.34.51 # * pixelma thinks the old "1" is ok, no need to use a new "1" ...as in why don't you type that out as the guidelines ask you to? 23.34.53 # saratoga: did you receive your fuze? 23.34.59 # do you have the pinout for it? i'm wondering if its the same as the one on the V2 hardware 23.35.12 # funman: not yet, but its ebay so thats not surprising 23.35.17 # does 3.0 have full USB support ? 23.35.18 # dionoea: yeah, but this really has never been a problem 23.35.38 Quit domonoky (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 23.35.38 Join jhulst [0] (n=jhulst@unaffiliated/jhulst) 23.35.39 # KEROLiUKAS: Depends on the player 23.35.44 # On ipod and sansa, no 23.35.50 # ahh 23.35.52 # I got sansa 23.36.15 # saratoga: I think my photos of the jtag-attached board shows that pretty good... if you just can get to them... 23.36.39 # Bagder: they're online but i don't know how to get the pin out 23.36.43 # theres just a ribbion cable 23.36.56 # so what are the biggest new features? 23.37.20 # well it supports your sansa 23.37.24 # KEROLiUKAS: you might want to check out the WhyRockbox and MajorChanges wikipages 23.37.26 # thats a pretty big new feature i'd guess 23.37.57 # kinda slow right now 23.38.06 # it already was supporting my sansa 23.38.12 # KEROLiUKAS: not the release 23.38.15 # nope, last release was archos only 23.38.20 # I guess I was using a build then 23.38.33 Join lasser [0] (n=f@Waa5e.w.pppool.de) 23.38.39 # but it was outdated 23.38.48 # saratoga: right, there's no photo showing that ribbon cable going into the connector pins properly 23.39.03 # you can check out google cache as well...you are goint to want to check the MajorChanges page then from the date of your last build 23.39.28 # can someone in possession of the AS3514 SoC datasheet tell me which registers are at addresses 0x70008xxx ? 23.39.33 # saratoga: I'll dig up the board and write it down, but not tonight 23.40.43 # http://teraton.com:81/~torment/sansa/e200_jtag_header.gif 23.40.48 Quit cmz () 23.41.08 # seems to be it 23.42.07 # Bagder: thanks 23.42.28 # did anyone investigate communicating with JTAG on the V1s? 23.42.28 # funman, the AS3514 is almost completely controlled over i2c, it has no address 0x70008xxx 23.42.41 # i want to look into doing it on the V2s but no sense reinventing the wheel 23.42.52 # saratoga: if you're interested, I could send you the v1 board 23.43.16 # Bagder: I'll consider it 23.43.39 # i should be getting a Fuze, and I intend to try its JTAG 23.43.45 # I recall someone fiddling with jtag back then, but I don't think we managed to accomplish anything significant 23.43.47 # bertrik: these are used in ata-sd-pp.c , it must be a SanDisk extension 23.44.15 # funman: that sounds like a PP register 23.44.40 # hm the filename also suggests that 23.45.13 # ergh, it doesn't seem to mention the move of the buttons...the power button now pauses and goes to main menu, while the submenu button goes to main menu without pausing (what the power button used to do) 23.45.17 # oh well i'll get used to it 23.45.47 # it should mention that if you go far back enough 23.46.09 Join FOAD_ [0] (n=dok@dinah.blub.net) 23.46.09 # I was just checking the manual 23.46.29 # the manual should correctly describe the current behavior 23.46.47 # yea 23.47.02 # it's all good 23.47.08 # time to read documentation on theme creation 23.47.47 # my theme is gonna pwn :P 23.48.29 # is PortalPlayer something *including* an AS3514 in it ? 23.48.38 # yes 23.48.39 # KEROLiUKAS: Rockbox runs on many players, and we aim to be where possible consistent across players. We don't actually care what any of the original firmwares do. 23.48.58 # funman: the PP5024 basically has a AS3514 built-in 23.49.13 # BigBambi it's not what the original firmware did, it's what the outdated version of rockbox did 23.49.15 # but it's all good 23.49.19 # i'll get used to it 23.49.21 # Is that called a SoSoC ? 23.49.25 Join Thundercloud [0] (n=thunderc@cpc1-hem18-0-0-cust660.lutn.cable.ntl.com) 23.50.04 # putting separate things into a single circuit is common business 23.50.39 # KEROLiUKAS: ah, sorry 23.50.55 # You did have an old version :) 23.51.13 # maybe we must watch out for registers undocumented in the as3525 datasheet in order to access the nand 23.51.25 # ugh, since the site is so slow, anyone know where in the site is the theme creation documentation or smthg like that? 23.51.47 Quit ompaul (Client Quit) 23.52.30 Quit Aevum ("Saliendo") 23.53.06 # www.rockbox.org/wiki/CustomWps 23.53.11 Quit reacocard (".") 23.54.24 Quit Wictor (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 23.54.31 # Thanks 23.54.36 Join Wictor [0] (n=Wictor@0x57366a52.bynxx19.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) 23.55.11 # * bluebrother finally managed to tag rbutil m1.0.7 23.55.24 Join jhulst_ [0] (n=jhulst@unaffiliated/jhulst) 23.56.29 # yay! 23.57.35 Quit mindbender2 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 23.58.08 Quit FOAD (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 23.58.08 Nick FOAD_ is now known as FOAD (n=dok@dinah.blub.net) 23.58.36 # ergh, I think i'll start of with cabbie v2 as the framework