--- Log for 26.09.108 Server: brown.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: @logbot Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 24 days and 18 hours ago 00.00.12 Quit jhulst_ (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 00.00.53 # is there a sandbox type thing? for testing themes/developing 00.01.26 # the rockb ox UI sim 00.01.38 Join jhulst_ [0] (n=jhulst@unaffiliated/jhulst) 00.01.39 # dunno how far the wps editor is 00.04.10 Quit jhulst (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 00.04.28 Quit bughunter2 ("bye") 00.04.49 # Hey guy 00.04.52 # s/ guys 00.05.02 # I take it rockbox.org is being slashdotted? 00.05.13 # yes, although not by slashdot ;-) 00.05.23 # Engadget? 00.05.27 # rockboxed ? 00.05.37 # Engadgeted! 00.05.42 # if you want to d/l, http://download.rockbox.org/release/3.0/ 00.06.06 # Bagder I had the same problem with "The Engadget Effect" when my site was posted a while back 00.06.22 # Actually my question was more regarding what platforms 3.0 officially supports 00.06.59 # Those that you can download for from that directory 00.07.10 # Fair 'nuff :D 00.07.12 # I have two mp3 playesr 00.07.15 # s/ players 00.07.21 # An iAudio D2, which is my main one 00.07.25 # Nope 00.07.29 # And an iAudio X5, which I keep for pretty much rockbox :D 00.07.33 # Yep :) 00.07.41 # Gotta have a test platform for these things :D 00.10.11 Join Zarggg [0] (n=z@65-78-69-194.c3-0.eas-ubr6.atw-eas.pa.cable.rcn.com) 00.10.13 # Bagder: updated rbutil m1.0.7 here: http://www.stud.uni-karlsruhe.de/~uhcn/rockbox/rbutil/rbutilqt-v1.0.7.zip and .tar.bz2. Can you move them to the download server? 00.11.27 # bluebrother: done! 00.11.54 # Bagder: thanks. I'll give up editing the RockboxUtility wiki page due to the heavy server load ... will do tomorrow 00.12.03 Quit BigBambi ("Please insert girder") 00.12.13 # yeah, and by the it should be mirrored fine already 00.12.16 Join BigBambi [0] (n=Alex@rockbox/staff/BigBambi) 00.12.17 # by then 00.12.33 Join fdinel [0] (n=Miranda@modemcable204.232-203-24.mc.videotron.ca) 00.16.20 Quit MethoS- (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 00.16.38 Quit HellDragon (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 00.18.19 # www.rockbox.org got 44100 visits yday 00.18.29 Quit jhulst_ (No route to host) 00.19.16 # Bagder: do you have download stats? 00.19.25 # Interestingly, the forums haven't really seen a significant increase in page views. 00.19.39 # The 24th was our record high in page views this month 00.19.50 # No, wait, the 7th was 00.19.54 # Nico_P: not any good ones as they're hosted by the three dl servers I'm not admin of 00.20.14 # ok 00.20.35 # what's our average number of visits per day? 00.20.52 # 10000 roughly 00.21.57 Quit lasser () 00.22.35 Quit here2code (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00.22.38 Join here2code [0] (n=mirc@c-24-10-124-172.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) 00.24.24 Quit bertrik ("Leaving") 00.25.06 Quit jgarvey ("Leaving") 00.25.53 # Llorean: the forums have had a few spikes, but the only real surge in traffic has been the last 2 hours of so 00.26.10 # scorche|sh: I just looked at the total page views 00.26.43 # I guess we've got a while yet before today is done for page views though 00.26.58 # Did anything interesting happen on the 7th that I don't remember? 00.27.13 # how come the traffic is so heavy? 00.27.16 # the engadget post appeared only a few hours ago and that seems to be the biggest 00.27.22 # j6: 3.0 came out. 00.27.25 # oh engadget 00.27.36 # Llorean: yeah i know, but i downloaded it fine yesterday 00.27.38 # Llorean: the main site has no bump on the 7th 00.27.46 # Bagder: It's possibly a good thing we _didn't_ issue a press release anywhere 00.28.11 # Bagder: On the 7th we saw 39,000 page views in the forums, daily average other than that is probably about 25k 00.29.07 Quit faemir (Remote closed the connection) 00.29.50 # does anyone have a slashdot account? 00.30.08 # Nico_P: want to kill the poor web server? ;-) 00.30.28 # Llorean: there will be quite a bit more today...going by the bandwidth graph trends at least 00.30.42 # wow the website has become superfast 00.31.01 # scorche|sh: Should be fun. 00.31.03 Join lard-Vader [0] (n=jeremy@pool-71-161-146-225.spfdma.east.verizon.net) 00.31.29 # hmm I guess I was just lucky 00.32.06 # Hey guys, just curious, has anyone done any work on a zune port? 00.32.23 # Llorean: yup...the server cna take a whole lot more though.. 00.32.30 # lard-Vader: no 00.32.31 # lard-Vader: not really 00.32.31 # lard-Vader: there was some research, but it's hit a brick wall 00.32.47 # Special checksum hardware I read? 00.33.34 Quit Rondom ("Ex-Chat") 00.33.50 # yes 00.34.13 # I volunteer to infiltrate microsoft and steal their private key. 00.35.26 Join HellDragon [0] (n=jd@modemcable100.136-203-24.mc.videotron.ca) 00.35.41 # lard-Vader: heh, you're welcome to try ;) 00.35.47 # lard-Vader: We won't be held responsible for any resistance you may encounter. ;) 00.35.55 # lard-Vader: shhhh...we dont want to know! 00.37.47 Quit bluebrother ("sleep") 00.38.04 # * Llorean notes that someone did attempt to submit Rockbox 3.0's release to slashdot. 00.38.14 # 12 words long. :) 00.38.37 Quit herrwaldo ("Konversation terminated!") 00.38.45 # the PR department is effective here! 00.38.57 # :-P 00.38.58 # I attempted to write one just now, but it told me one had already been submitted for the URL. 00.39.05 # oh 00.39.17 # then link to the downloads! ;-P 00.39.27 # I'm about to! 00.39.30 Quit LambdaCalculus37 ("Ka-chunka") 00.39.33 Quit linuxstb (Remote closed the connection) 00.39.36 # or the release notes 00.39.46 # we have notes? ;) 00.40.15 # Bagder: did you submit a story? 00.40.36 # all the 12 words are mine and mine only! 00.41.54 Join linuxstb [0] (n=linuxstb@rockbox/developer/linuxstb) 00.42.05 # haha, a slightly longer one might have been better :) 00.42.35 # * Llorean submitted a slightly longer one. 00.42.45 Quit GodEater (Remote closed the connection) 00.42.45 Quit perrikwp (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 00.42.45 Quit saratoga (Remote closed the connection) 00.44.01 Join perrikwp [0] (i=98213622@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-3def80e65959c5d7) 00.44.19 # Llorean: very nice (assuming you are DarkkOne) :) 00.44.27 # he is 00.46.06 Join faemir [0] (n=quassel@88-106-209-242.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) 00.46.54 Quit here2code (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00.47.43 Quit mirak ("Ex-Chat") 00.49.50 # * petur voted... 00.52.06 Join here2code [0] (n=mirc@c-24-10-124-172.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) 00.52.34 Join brunner21 [0] (n=brett@host-39-175.inlacsl.clients.pavlovmedia.com) 00.55.07 Join ameyer [0] (n=ameyer17@adsl-75-57-180-230.dsl.emhril.sbcglobal.net) 00.56.31 Quit ender` (" Hardware, n The part of the computer that you can kick.") 00.59.49 Join webguest21 [0] (n=4a41e598@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-15e4046814a5b6e4) 01.01.15 # hey, why dont we have SNDH support :( 01.01.35 # * DerPapst doesn't even know what it is 01.01.36 # SNDH? 01.01.56 # but most probably because no one has done it yet :P 01.01.58 # atari st :3 01.02.18 # j6: so there's a chance for you to go ahead! 01.02.19 # there has been a post about it on the bugtracker forever 01.02.29 # Bagder: i would love to, not very good at C though 01.03.03 # we've had people learn C in order to hack Rockbox in the past already, you wouldn't be the first! :-) 01.03.05 Join DeathWolf [0] (i=yggdrasi@saber.kawaii-shoujo.net) 01.03.06 # j6: It'll probably take you less time to learn C than it'll take if you just sit and wait for the bits to line themselves up. :) 01.03.32 # Is there any hope of h264 decoding on the ipods?(ie, is there anyone currently working on it?) 01.03.45 # DeathWolf: They're too slow, except the iPod Video's special video processor 01.04.04 # the apple firmware does it fine 01.04.14 # (there's a builtin h264 decoder iirc?) 01.04.17 # special video processor being the key there 01.04.19 # (hardware one that is) 01.04.22 # DeathWolf: Note what I said... 01.04.27 # ah yes sorry 01.04.31 # You asked about "iPods" 01.04.36 # Llorean: :( 01.04.39 # Let me say ipod5G+ then:) 01.04.41 # j6: Just truth. 01.04.43 # because of "the iPod Video's special video processor" 01.04.48 # Llorean: yeah i guess 01.04.54 Quit faemir (Remote closed the connection) 01.04.55 # DeathWolf: There's almost no knowledge of the specialized hardware, and no docs on it, so it's unlikely to happen. 01.05.17 Quit webguest21 ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)") 01.05.17 # Llorean: what do i have to know if i want to write a sndh decoder? 01.05.26 # :x 01.05.33 # except for how the atari st works etc 01.05.37 # god damn 01.05.48 # Thought so Llorean:/ 01.05.50 # how to write a codec for rockbox 01.06.09 # Thanks anyway for the info:) 01.06.09 # sounds like what i am looking for 01.06.10 # and C of course ;( 01.06.14 Part DeathWolf 01.06.17 # s/;(/;) 01.06.42 # there is a wikipage about writing codecs. 01.06.51 # dunno the URL though 01.07.01 Nick fxb__ is now known as fxb (n=felixbru@h1252615.stratoserver.net) 01.07.18 # guess i'll wait until the site isnt under such heavy load 01.07.24 # HowToWriteCodecs? ;) 01.07.35 # maybe :P 01.08.01 # * DerPapst isn't too familiar with the rockbox wiki 01.09.35 # http://img502.imageshack.us/my.php?image=09252008180909gw5.png 01.09.39 # what do you guys think so far? 01.09.45 Quit massiveH ("Leaving") 01.10.24 # * DerPapst thinks those are strange song titles 01.10.29 # haha 01.10.47 # http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qqXi8WmQ_WM 01.10.54 # the song is funny 01.10.58 # KEROLiUKAS: looks nice, the seek bar thing should be a bit brighter though 01.11.14 # progress bar? 01.11.26 Quit brunner21 ("Leaving") 01.11.28 # yeah 01.13.54 Quit perrikwp ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") 01.14.31 # http://img442.imageshack.us/my.php?image=09252008181424hx6.png 01.14.40 # like that? 01.14.47 # now the buttons need more color too 01.15.39 # Best song ever 01.16.17 # it's a porno OST 01.16.31 # porno? 01.16.39 # this is getting very offtopic folks... 01.16.40 Join stripwax [0] (n=Miranda@87-194-34-169.bethere.co.uk) 01.18.01 # Why are you talking to me? I can't have sex with your college degree. 01.18.10 # scorche|sh should this type of theme talk be in the offtopic chan? 01.18.13 # Show me your gentials... your genetalia! 01.18.41 # lard-Vader: last warning 01.19.13 # KEROLiUKAS: probably...it isnt strictly offtopic, but it might be nicer 01.19.45 # it is inciting to offtopic 01.20.31 Part KEROLiUKAS 01.20.31 Join KEROLiUKAS [0] (n=kp@c-67-163-5-102.hsd1.il.comcast.net) 01.20.44 Quit Nico_P (Remote closed the connection) 01.24.23 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 01.26.57 Quit Schmogel (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 01.27.04 Quit wpyh ("Leaving.") 01.28.07 Join perrikwp [0] (i=d1a8d351@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-7b26fa04003b5e8a) 01.28.29 Quit tvelocity[away] ("Αποχώρησε") 01.32.17 Quit MarcGuay ("ChatZilla 0.9.83 [Firefox 3.0.1/2008070208]") 01.32.50 # I need an explanation of the bottom of http://infocenter.arm.com/help/index.jsp?topic=/com.arm.doc.ddi0172a/i1008272.html 01.32.58 # fp >= 3/8 * fm 01.33.04 # where p = PCLK and m = MCLK 01.33.15 # if p = PCLK, then what's fp ? 01.33.47 # some notation specific to clocks maybe 01.34.10 Quit XavierGr () 01.34.11 # * funman looks fdinel 01.35.27 Quit midkay__ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 01.37.27 Quit stripwax ("Miranda IM! 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05.25.39 # i can change the code, but i am sure others must have seen the problem 05.26.43 # anyone? 05.26.50 # ddalton: traditionally, "plug a USB cable in to it" 05.27.09 # ddalton: though, you may need to change it to MCS mode 05.27.17 # MSC 05.27.35 # scorche|sh: You can mount and copy files to it in MTP mode too... 05.28.04 # here2code: http://build.rockbox.org/dev.cgi shows any warnings and errors the official build servers are seeing. Since you're seeing it, and they aren't, it suggests something in your environment may not be set up right. 05.28.34 # i am trying to compile it for mips 05.28.40 # ok, thnx. 05.28.42 Quit ddalton (Client Quit) 05.28.45 # but that shouldnt be any different 05.28.49 # Llorean: not "mount and copy" so much as "send tracks and store files", although windows does provide a FS view, iirc? 05.29.08 # here2code: "for mips"? which player, specifically? 05.29.16 # vx747 05.29.19 Join saratoga [0] (n=9803c6dd@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-74dc94e5bac93371) 05.30.13 Join AndyIL [0] (n=pasha_in@212.14.205.32) 05.30.31 # Unhelpful: It provides a reasonable facsimile of a filesystem view that you can access through Explorer and interact with as if it were a real filesystem, yes. 05.31.17 Quit AndyIL (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 05.31.19 # only wart i remember is that apps mostly won't "see" it as it's not actually a "drive" in the sense expected by things messing with files on windows 05.31.22 # that would be Onda VX747 05.31.38 Join Wictor_ [0] (n=Wictor@0x57366a52.bynxx19.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) 05.32.14 # since that port is still in progress, there may be warnings 05.34.22 # is there a different make option to just build the rockbox bootloader; i am trying make bin 05.35.06 # the configure script determines what you build 05.37.16 # so how can i just build "rockbox bootloader" ? 05.37.54 # run the configure script and select bootloader 05.39.37 Quit Wictor (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 05.40.07 # then run make and make zip 05.40.41 # got it. i was choosing N for normal. thanks 05.41.11 Quit AndyI (Connection timed out) 05.41.17 Join AndyI [0] (n=pasha_in@212.14.205.32) 05.41.59 Quit Horscht ("I am root. If you see me laughing, you better have a backup") 05.42.09 Quit fdinel (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 05.44.22 Quit samdouglas (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 05.47.38 Join nuonguy [0] (n=john@c-71-198-1-139.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) 05.51.43 Join avis [0] (n=ident@pdpc/supporter/student/avis) 05.52.15 Quit Lambduh ("Leaving") 05.58.39 # * ameyer wonders what "*PANIC* (newline) Stkov (0)" means 05.58.58 # obviously, with a newline instead of (newline) 05.59.09 # It means there was a stack overflow. 05.59.18 # What were you doing? 05.59.46 # with the sansa charging patch applied, I held power with USB connected 06.00.00 # Isn't there already a bug report up on this? 06.01.12 # *shrug* since the patch isn't officially part of rockbox, I suspect not 06.01.28 # Well, I think it's just a comment in the task 06.02.03 # Yeah, A day and a few hours ago it was posted to the task. 06.05.23 # first I saw it 06.06.02 # since the sansa randomly crashes on USB insert even without the charging patch, I tend to think its probably a more general PP bug 06.06.07 # but i haven't tried charging my sansa yet 06.12.26 Join perrikwp [0] (i=d1a8d351@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-2aff2d522564401c) 06.15.22 Join HBK- [0] (i=hbk@pool-71-96-74-73.dfw.dsl-w.verizon.net) 06.16.25 Quit HBK (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 06.18.15 # saratoga: not exactly randomly 06.18.38 # some builds it happens 100% of the time, some it doesn't at all. 06.19.02 # for me at least, YMMV, etc. 06.19.49 Quit perrikwp ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") 06.21.11 # * ameyer suspects that bug may have unintentionally be fixed 06.21.23 Join AndyIL [0] (i=AndyI@212.14.205.32) 06.21.43 # saratoga: also, I suspect there's a difference between just locking up and throwing a stkov 06.25.45 Join perrikwp [0] (i=d1a8d351@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-fa41d951012d0455) 06.27.00 Join ddalton [0] (n=ddalton@203-217-95-144.dyn.iinet.net.au) 06.27.14 # I get this error when connecting the sansa: 06.27.17 # [17173.339430] hub 5-0:1.0: unable to enumerate USB device on port 6 [17189.470697] usb 3-2: device descriptor read/64, error -110 06.27.53 Part ddalton 06.28.01 Join ddalton [0] (n=ddalton@203-217-95-144.dyn.iinet.net.au) 06.28.16 # ddalton: You're not providing much useful information here. 06.28.24 # OF or Rockbox, MSC or MTP, e200 or c200? 06.28.49 # um, its an e200, v2 i think though, and there is no usb item in the settings menu... 06.28.56 # of 06.29.01 # v2? 06.29.05 # Rockbox doesn't run on the v2. 06.29.16 # Problems with the OF should be addressed to Sandisk. 06.29.26 # is connecting the same way though? 06.29.44 # cause im not sure cause im blind so I cant read the version number 06.30.14 # Well the only way to definitely tell a v2 from a v1 is to read the version number of the original firmware. 06.30.53 # Well, or install Rockbox on it, as that would confirm it's a v1. 06.30.55 # i thought there was a version file someone on the player that i could cat from memory? 06.30.59 # somewhere? 06.31.41 # fine dont worry about it then 06.31.47 Quit ddalton (Client Quit) 06.32.14 Quit Siku () 06.32.47 Quit AndyI (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 06.32.54 Join AndyI [0] (i=AndyI@212.14.205.32) 06.34.20 Quit saratoga ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 06.39.19 Quit jhulst (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 06.41.52 Quit ajonat () 06.44.16 Quit AndyIL (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 06.46.18 Quit KEROLiUKAS (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 06.53.33 Join Administrator [0] (n=chatzill@69.59.206.74) 06.53.42 Nick Administrator is now known as liebert (n=chatzill@69.59.206.74) 06.54.02 # does anyone know if there is support for sony walkman mp3 players? 06.54.42 # liebert: There is only support for the players listed as supported. 06.54.58 # god damn 06.55.24 # Well, people with an interest in those players, such as you, apparently don't step forward and do the work. 06.56.33 Quit vcardenas ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 07.03.33 Join AndyIL [0] (i=AndyI@212.14.205.32) 07.05.50 Quit toffe82 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 07.05.59 Quit liebert ("ChatZilla 0.9.83 [Firefox 3.0.1/2008070208]") 07.09.48 # http://www.boingboing.net/2008/09/25/rockbox-30-turn-your.html 07.11.20 Quit AndyI (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 07.12.36 # why is everyone using that picture?! 07.14.14 # lol... via engadget via ostatic via .... 07.14.59 # also common referer atm: http://japanese.engadget.com/2008/09/25/ipod-rockbox-3-0/ 07.15.38 # but now, breakfast 07.17.12 Quit AndyIL (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 07.21.01 Join tessarakt [0] (n=jens@e180068138.adsl.alicedsl.de) 07.24.31 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 07.27.03 Join AndyI [0] (i=AndyI@212.14.205.32) 07.30.49 Quit here2code (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 07.31.00 Join here2code [0] (n=mirc@c-24-10-124-172.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) 07.33.34 Join Nico_P [50] (n=nicolas@rockbox/developer/NicoP) 07.35.31 # what happened to our /. story? 07.38.10 # It hasn't shown yet 07.38.18 # As far as I've seen at least 07.42.02 Join Acksaw [0] (n=omgwtfbb@cpc2-stok5-0-0-cust754.bagu.cable.ntl.com) 07.43.04 Quit culture (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 07.45.31 Join AndyIL [0] (i=AndyI@212.14.205.32) 07.46.17 Quit AndyIL (Client Quit) 07.48.21 # Llorean: no, it hasn't and I can't find it on the firehose 07.49.03 # That's because it was accepted. 07.49.07 # So it *will* be posted eventually. 07.49.11 # I believe 07.49.31 Join midkay [0] (n=midkay@rockbox/developer/midkay) 07.49.43 # ah :) 07.50.27 Join AndyIL [0] (i=AndyI@212.14.205.32) 07.55.35 Quit AndyI (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 07.56.54 Join webguest73 [0] (n=d0030d68@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-7d8ff95a3a0a4b32) 08.01.48 Quit Darksair ("ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)") 08.01.53 Quit webguest73 ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)") 08.02.44 Join Darksair [0] (n=user@221.221.146.101) 08.03.44 Join wamu93- [0] (n=asdfas@c-24-23-237-11.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) 08.04.00 Quit miepchen^schlaf_ () 08.05.02 Quit DataGhost (Nick collision from services.) 08.05.10 Join DataGhost [0] (i=dataghos@unaffiliated/dataghost) 08.05.21 Join jfc [0] (n=john@dpc691978010.direcpc.com) 08.07.29 Join GodEater [0] (i=c2cbc962@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-e5a09a6f77900f42) 08.07.29 Join mcpderez [0] (n=mcpderez@208.3.13.104) 08.09.46 Part mcpderez 08.21.40 Quit BigBambi (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 08.22.03 Quit jfc^3 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 08.32.44 Join LinusN [0] (n=linus@rockbox/developer/LinusN) 08.39.55 Quit wamu93- (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 08.48.38 Join Rob2223 [0] (n=Miranda@p4FDCCF93.dip.t-dialin.net) 08.49.58 # now that the 1.0.7 rbutil release is out, meybe we could link to it from http://www.rockbox.org/download/ ?? 08.50.04 # maybe 08.51.16 Join ender` [0] (i=krneki@foo.eternallybored.org) 08.51.19 # perhaps even a copy of it, so it remains stable for those who prefer to try 3.0 08.58.49 # Well, any future versions should be able to download 3.0 too, until 3.1 comes out, right? 08.59.53 Quit BHSPitMonkey (Remote closed the connection) 09.00.12 # sure, but i wouldn't want a temporary bug in future rbutil versions to stop people from downloading 3.0 09.00.37 # the same goes for the bootloaders 09.01.40 # I think we shouldn't keep an old version of RBUtil around (it's more likely to turn out incompatible with something in the future) but rather keep a backup of the previous version around somewhere each time we update, and roll back immediately if there are significant enough problems. 09.02.27 # I don't really think there's much beneficial to having two different versions of the same installer available, one not receiving any updates at all. 09.03.24 # I think RbUtil should just grab an XML file from the server that contains a list of all the releases. 09.05.33 Join reacocard [0] (n=reacocar@134.173.59.155) 09.06.31 Join Bagderr [241] (n=daniel@rockbox/developer/bagder) 09.06.55 Nick Bagderr is now known as B4gder (n=daniel@rockbox/developer/bagder) 09.07.08 # site being responsive again? 09.07.11 Quit Rob2222 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 09.07.20 # For the moment. 09.07.37 # As far as I can tell, my article has been accepted by slashdot but not posted yet so it may get a beating again today. 09.07.47 # ah 09.09.06 Join reacocard_ [0] (n=reacocar@WL-431.CINE.HMC.Edu) 09.12.17 Quit tessarakt ("Client exiting") 09.16.34 Join vitja [0] (n=vitja@79.120.98.174) 09.19.33 # Seem we might need to release a 3.0.1 for the Player 09.20.02 # what's the problem with 3.0 on that? 09.21.06 # Not a bug, but the new flash rom images can no longer have the start for the main image at (rom_start+24K), it will be at (rom_start+28K) like the other archoses 09.21.28 # Bootbox grew too big, even with my size optimisations, and hence the rombox start address is wrong 09.22.05 Join Llorean1 [0] (n=DarkkOne@ppp-70-242-15-169.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net) 09.23.12 Quit Llorean (Nick collision from services.) 09.23.15 Nick Llorean1 is now known as Llorean (n=DarkkOne@ppp-70-242-15-169.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net) 09.23.22 Join einhirn [0] (i=Miranda@bsod.rz.tu-clausthal.de) 09.24.35 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 09.25.29 Quit reacocard (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 09.27.18 Quit Chronon ("Client exited") 09.28.28 # arnt there only about 3 Player's still in existance? 09.30.56 Join BigBambi [0] (i=86ceaf40@rockbox/staff/BigBambi) 09.31.18 Join DerPapst [0] (n=DerPapst@77.20.73.176) 09.34.13 # * amiconn thinks that there are considerably more Players in existence (and use) than Ondios 09.35.11 Quit avis ("taktaktaktakkkk") 09.35.22 # Bagder: I think the frontpage should be changed to add that the nano 4th gen isn't supported 09.35.38 # * scorche groans 09.35.43 # Maybe we should just change it to (and NO other iPods) 09.35.47 # Or that 09.35.55 # Llorean: seriously... 09.36.23 # But at the moment seeing as we list that some do work and others don't, not to have one mentioned could be interpreted as a little ambiguous 09.36.24 # At least that way we don't have to keep updating it every time Steve has a new favorite disk size. 09.38.20 # brb - firefox restart req'd 09.38.29 Quit GodEater ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") 09.38.43 # has anyone made any progress on the new encrypted firmwares? 09.38.51 # nope 09.39.26 Join GodEater [0] (i=c2cbc962@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-c7d67796abcd2f89) 09.40.15 # lol3izer_: I think people in general go with less resistance so they pick other targets instead 09.40.41 Join Llorean1 [0] (n=DarkkOne@ppp-70-242-15-169.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net) 09.40.52 Quit Llorean (Nick collision from services.) 09.40.54 Nick Llorean1 is now known as Llorean (n=DarkkOne@ppp-70-242-15-169.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net) 09.47.32 Nick JdGordon is now known as JdGordon|afk (n=jonno@rockbox/developer/JdGordon) 09.57.22 Join ^DVD-R^ [0] (n=dvd@62.189.64.35) 09.57.40 # <^DVD-R^> i have an 80GB iPod classic will this work? 09.57.48 # no 09.57.55 Join Schoentoon [0] (n=nighteye@ip565ec269.direct-adsl.nl) 09.58.25 Part Schoentoon 09.58.47 # <^DVD-R^> pants 09.59.02 # sell it and get one that works with rockbox! 10.02.04 # is build.rockbox.org unwell ? 10.02.15 # hmm - no - must be my end 10.02.36 # I think we're still close to the max 10.02.46 # so it might get slow at times 10.03.05 # ah ok 10.03.18 # I'm trying to grab the latest source tarball, and it's not quick :( 10.03.29 # * GodEater mutters a bit more about git/svn over http 10.04.40 # B4gder: is the bandwidth bill going to be scary? 10.04.46 # nope 10.04.56 # we pay fixed rate for it 10.05.10 # and the download servers are donated bandwidth by others 10.05.26 # * B4gder thanks sponsors 10.05.33 # * GodEater hugs "others" 10.05.54 # * voltagex cuts to a commercial break 10.07.19 Join avis [0] (n=ident@pdpc/supporter/student/avis) 10.07.26 Join jeffdameth [0] (n=jeff@dyndsl-091-096-062-182.ewe-ip-backbone.de) 10.08.25 Quit jeffdameth1 (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 10.09.36 # open source dosent need users >_> 10.10.17 # http://www.golem.de/0809/62633.html 10.10.30 # many referers from there now 10.10.51 # * scorche hopes someone is updating the ArticlesAboutRockbox page 10.10.56 # this 3.0 release is really generating alot of publicity 10.11.05 # indeed 10.11.14 # UGH....first comment there is about the classic 10.11.41 # i am beginning to see a trend 10.11.49 # people like to complain? 10.11.52 # http://mp3.generationmp3.com/2008/09/26/rockbox-passe-en-version-3/ 10.11.56 # because i saw that trend a long time ago :D 10.11.58 # again 10.11.59 # :) 10.14.23 # no longer front page on engadget so I think those slowed down now 10.14.42 # you are gonna get continual spikes 10.14.46 Join EspeonEefi [0] (i=espeonee@CERULEANCITY.MIT.EDU) 10.14.51 # as it spreads around to all the blogs 10.15.07 # it's really more of a contant heavy load since last night 10.15.41 # this could attract more developers aswell 10.15.43 # but its hard to say 10.15.56 # it seems almost everyone capable of anything probly would have known about it already 10.16.38 Quit avis (Remote closed the connection) 10.17.44 # well, given perhaps 50-100K new users on the site, a very small fraction of them might be potential new hackers 10.17.59 # * GodEater hopes so 10.19.29 Join in-ferno [0] (i=HydraIRC@ip-62-241-64-208.evc.net) 10.19.44 # * B4gder is an optimist 10.22.51 # * GodEater is too 10.22.57 # gevaerts: what about using USB_EP_BULK_(IN|OUT) instead of usb_serial_set_first_endpint? 10.23.01 Quit SUSaiyan (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 10.23.08 Join SUSaiyan [0] (n=SUSaiyan@cc84863-b.zwoll1.ov.home.nl) 10.26.53 # B4gder: I've cured my warrenty-voiding-phobia, so I might actually be able to contribute something useful back to Rockbox 10.27.18 # that's a nasty decease indeed! 10.27.39 # destroyed two h300s in the process though :'( 10.29.27 # voltagex: how did you do that? 10.30.09 # LinusN: by being a fool. One just died, the other I managed to rip the ribbon cable... 10.30.14 # ouch 10.30.26 # painful lesson. 10.30.48 # well, the ribbon cable is in tact, but I don't have the equipment to solder it back to the board 10.31.09 # someone here suggested reflowing the solder, which I will do as soon as I can. 10.31.57 # Better news is that the iRiver E100 is much easier to pull apart. Just need to get a scanner so I can post some PCB pics. 10.32.34 # it still uses .hex firmware too :D 10.33.00 Quit perrikwp ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") 10.33.01 Quit BigBambi ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") 10.33.01 Quit GodEater ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") 10.33.24 Join perrikwp [0] (i=d1a8d351@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-ddf694e434a0d7c7) 10.35.00 Quit cool_walking_ ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") 10.35.02 Quit ameyer (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 10.36.45 Join lasser [0] (n=f@W98ac.w.pppool.de) 10.36.55 Join BigBambi [0] (i=86ceaf40@rockbox/staff/BigBambi) 10.37.05 Join w1ll14m [0] (n=d584ab1b@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-b6f4c687511e9fa0) 10.37.41 Quit in-ferno (" HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- Would you like to know more?") 10.38.02 # i have a problem 10.38.19 # i get undefined reference to `free' when compiling libdumb 10.38.21 # don't we all? 10.38.47 # to be honest, i'm trying to build somthing for rockbox. 10.38.49 # hehe indeed 10.39.15 # when i trac eit back... it seems the call 'if (callbacks) free(callbacks);' 10.39.32 # is free somewhat connected to malloc ? 10.40.35 Join GodEater [0] (i=c2cbc962@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-867661022d8bd3c9) 10.40.44 # yes 10.40.50 # ok 10.40.51 # it's the opposite of malloc 10.40.58 # i was affraid so. 10.41.21 # i created a malloc wrapper (based on vorbis codec malloc wrapper) 10.41.48 # how do i use free at this point ? 10.41.49 # you should basically fix the code to not have to call free 10.42.00 # w1ll14m: Creating a wrapper is the easy way out - the best solution is to (as far as possible) change libdumb to allocate things statically 10.42.00 # ahh ok 10.42.31 # well this is the second thing i write in C (first thing i wrote was hello world) 10.42.49 # right, and if you do use a wrapper you should make sure it only "allocates" a fixed amount of data and then it stops 10.42.53 # and not use free at all 10.42.59 # Wasn't there already a libdumb port though? 10.43.05 # there was 10.43.26 # hmm 10.43.33 # iirc, it had terrible performance problems 10.43.45 # hehehe 10.44.00 # it's worth trying i guess 10.44.12 # and it's something nice to learn 10.45.08 # if i have a malloc and free call... how should i take care of static allocation ? 10.45.44 Join mak3 [0] (n=mak3@oze.bfh.ch) 10.45.46 # hi all 10.45.54 # is there any news on supporting ipod classic? 10.46.01 # mak3: No. 10.46.12 # hmmkay 10.46.39 Join MethoS- [0] (n=clemens@host-091-096-212-021.ewe-ip-backbone.de) 10.47.39 Join petur [50] (n=petur@rockbox/developer/petur) 10.47.59 # my ipod video 60gb is broken and the repair cost the same like a ipod classic 120gb. :/ 10.49.11 # w1ll14m: If, for example, you're calling malloc to allocate memory for a struct, you just declare an instance of that struct somewhere, and set the pointer to point to that instead. Or just change the declaration from a pointer to a struct to a struct (but that would mean changing more code) 10.49.11 # then buy a nonpod? 10.49.33 # they are all too big as far is see.. 10.49.52 # well just wishing for a port of rockbox to the classic won't make it happen 10.49.57 # too big? 10.49.57 # mak3: Then crack the encryption which is preventing people working on a port to the classic... 10.50.09 # mak3: if you're happy with the classic without rockbox than just buy that 10.50.13 # mak3: Or don't use Rockbox. Those are the options... 10.50.22 # or not on sale anymore.. 10.50.29 # ebay... 10.50.41 # We are very sorry about that, but there isn't much we can do 10.51.31 # humm i thought the encryption is already cracked.. 10.51.39 # that's a different encryption 10.51.40 # not in any way 10.51.46 # for the database, not the firmware 10.51.52 # it wasn't even encryption 10.51.55 # hm okay i see 10.51.56 # very odd 10.52.03 # not at all odd 10.52.22 # linuxstb, thanx i'll look in to it 10.52.57 # mak3 what's broken on the ipod video ? 10.53.04 # hardware side 10.53.32 # is it the main board or harddisk or battery ? 10.53.34 # yes, but *what* hardware ?:) 10.53.52 # i think the main board. 10.53.59 # first it was only the display 10.54.08 # what do you get when you power it on ? 10.54.23 # i could used it anyway but then after a while it doesnt boot anymore 10.54.45 # it doesnt power on 10.55.03 # or is the display dead / 10.55.13 # ahh 10.55.14 # ok 10.55.49 # i would say open it up, check the cables. else it could be your mainboard indeed 10.56.06 # i sent it too http://www.macianer.com/ 10.56.17 # he said it needs display/motherboard replacement 10.56.36 # * GodEater never trusts those online repair outlets 10.57.08 # i don't trust them ether 10.58.19 # hm if its only a cable i would need a new display anyway. 11.00.15 Join avis [0] (n=ident@adsl-99-162-203-225.dsl.hstntx.sbcglobal.net) 11.01.15 # i would search for ipod's with a dead harddisl. 11.04.46 # could be a lot cheaper :) 11.04.53 # 0 results found for ipod death harddisk. ^^ 11.05.04 # oh dead. 11.05.13 # hmm the same 11.05.21 # search for broken ipods 11.05.54 # good idea 11.06.09 # i know. it's from me :P 11.06.56 Quit avis ("taktaktaktakkkk") 11.07.42 Quit MethoS- (Remote closed the connection) 11.08.23 Join MethoS- [0] (n=clemens@host-091-096-212-021.ewe-ip-backbone.de) 11.08.31 # what about this? http://cgi.ebay.ch/IPod-Video-60GB-Broken_W0QQitemZ150298182669QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item150298182669&_trkparms=72%3A1229|39%3A1|66%3A2|65%3A12|240%3A1318&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14 11.11.41 Quit jhMikeS (Nick collision from services.) 11.11.47 Join jhMikeS [50] (n=jethead7@rockbox/developer/jhMikeS) 11.14.24 # hmm, i found a cheap working ipod video 60gb. ;) 11.17.05 # i really hate those new ipods 11.17.12 # damn encryption 11.17.38 Join culture [0] (n=sam@cpc1-bele3-0-0-cust658.belf.cable.ntl.com) 11.17.38 # new ones have encrypted firmware? 11.17.45 # yeah very bad move from apple 11.17.50 # yep 11.17.51 # nano 2g and up 11.18.02 # and new ipod classic 11.18.04 # 3g 11.18.09 # not 2g 11.18.14 # yes 11.18.21 # nano 2g has encrypted firmware 11.18.43 # anyway to pull the data from the usb port during a firmware upgrade? or is it all done inside the ipod itself? 11.18.56 # it's done on the ipod itself 11.19.04 # the encryption key is stored in the cpu i believe 11.19.26 # the decryption key even 11.19.31 # w1ll14m, no it dosent 11.19.39 # how is there a port in progress then? 11.19.53 # lol3izer_: yes it does 11.19.54 # lol3izer_: there isnt really one.. 11.19.55 # so its a identical key on every cpu? 11.20.18 # yes 11.20.33 # presumably 11.20.40 # it can probly be updated 11.20.50 # not that the cpu has to have the same, but the firmwares would be tricky to make for different keys 11.21.04 # lol3izer_: these things tend to burn fuses on production 11.21.05 # the difference between the 2G Nano and later models is that Apple didn't hide the firmware on the iPod away, you can still get to it, even if it's encrypted. 11.21.09 # ie non-changeable 11.21.09 # linux4nano is a project aiming on cracking the key... but they haven't made much progress 11.21.18 # can the same file be used on multipul ipods? 11.21.51 # havien: of course, how else would apple issue firmware upgrades ? 11.22.42 # sorry thinking along a different line of thought 11.23.02 Quit here2code (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 11.23.21 Join here2code [0] (n=mirc@c-24-10-124-172.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) 11.23.26 # i think the key will be like it was on the psp 11.23.31 # finding an exploit in the firmware 11.23.50 # lol3izer_: go for it ;) 11.24.16 # well thinking that the key could be removed from a cpu by any means necessary 11.24.31 # lol3izer: the ipod would have been hacked if that was true 11.24.36 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 11.24.58 # w1ll14m, dont be daft 11.25.14 # so you are saying the firmware is 100% foolproof 11.25.17 # and because it hasnt happened yet 11.25.19 # it cant happen? 11.25.20 # any ideas on exactly what chip it is? 11.25.47 # is this going to get productive any time soon? 11.25.48 # linux4nano thinks the key is stored in the SST39WF800A chip 11.25.59 # the bootloader rom should be located there 11.26.13 # but if it contains the decryption code 11.26.19 # no one knows 11.26.30 # well somone does ;) 11.26.44 # no-one that's not bound by an NDA 11.27.10 # lol 11.27.18 # w1ll14m: I would expect the decryption to be in a small ROM embedded in the CPU. I think linux4nano have dumped the contents of that chip, and it's encrypted. 11.27.43 # grrr i hate BGA chips 11.28.00 # gonna take a whole lot of logic probinh 11.28.42 # linuxstb, that's what i'm thinking too 11.28.57 # because the still haven't extracted the key, because the contents of the rom are also encrypted 11.29.26 # No, the ROM can't be encrypted - at some point, there needs to be actual ARM code for the CPU to run... 11.29.43 # But the ROM is simply not accessible... 11.31.06 # i would say, a miniature bootloader in cpu, loads and decrypts bootloader to ram, bootloader ram loads and decrypts firmware 11.31.08 # but i'm simply guessing 11.32.04 # is the ram itself encrypted? 11.32.17 # I doubt it 11.32.26 # but how would you find out ? 11.32.43 # probe the ram 11.32.50 # crystalball 11.33.04 # lol3izer_: with what ? 11.33.10 # idk :( 11.33.31 # why would it have encrypted ram anyway? 11.33.38 # but its fun, a system like that is comming to a computer near you 11.33.58 # intel has been designing cpus that can execute encrypted instructions 11.34.16 # yes it is theoretically possible to much such cpus 11.34.30 # but that doesn't answer "why" in the ipod case 11.34.36 # yea not much sense there 11.34.41 # firmware encryption should just die 11.34.49 # you could probe the ram with a logic analizer and log the output on the r/w bus 11.35.09 # go ahead 11.35.29 # we'll be monitoring from here :) 11.36.47 Join J-23 [0] (n=aldwulf@a105.net128.okay.pl) 11.38.21 # lol3izer_ about your intel cpus that run encrypted code... it would seem to be easy to figure unless the key could be changed in the cpu 11.38.39 # its loaded on runtime 11.38.56 # how is that more secure? 11.40.08 # since you could pull it inroute... or you could just pull it from the any of the rom's 11.40.42 # not entirely sure 11.40.54 # its all part of the whole "trusted computing" thing 11.40.55 # although you do pose a very interesing compsec idea 11.41.04 # vitja: how would that work 11.41.06 # ? 11.41.10 # or whatever the hell the are calling it now 11.42.34 Join mcuelenaere [0] (n=mcuelena@rockbox/developer/mcuelenaere) 11.43.34 # gevaerts: hmm data written to ep descriptor should reflect actual HW configuration 11.43.47 # havien, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trusted_Execution_Technology 11.44.14 # lol intel (TXT) 11.44.35 # here2code: around? 11.44.55 # * DerPapst shoves havien and lol3izer_ over to -community 11.45.16 # gevaerts: can one device use two configurations at same time? 11.45.52 # Only one configuration, but you can have multiple interfaces, i.e. you can do e.g. mass storage and serial at the same time 11.46.36 # That actually works with the current usb stack on gigabeat and portalplayer 11.47.00 # gevaerts: okay for example I need input to be set to 1 and output to 2 11.47.14 # so why not hardcode endpoint numbers? 11.47.24 # sorry DerPapst but lol3izer_ that entier article is all about software based security nothing in it refers specificaly to hardware security 11.47.42 # btw, I found some bugs in serial circular buffer and implemented receiveing 11.48.53 # The problem is that the current stack assumes endpoint pairs to share a number. Hardcoding would solve that, but at the cost of making future extensions harder (i.e. selectable mass storage or audio) 11.49.14 # I'll work on solving that properly that tonight 11.49.37 # gevaerts: okay thanks 11.49.59 # havien: just type /join #rockbox-community and i stop comlaining ;) 11.50.03 # gevaerts: why should it be a problem "selectable mass storage or audio"? 11.50.11 # *complaining even 11.52.34 # vitja: different device classes ("protocols") need different numbers of endpoints, so if you hardcode endpoint numbers combining device classes gets hard (i.e. you may want serial+mtp, or mtp+audio, or serial+audio. The hardware may not have enough endpoints to assign uique ones to everything) 11.52.48 # ok DerPapst you talked me into it 11.53.33 # vitja: of course maybe I'm overengineering things. I'll think about this a bit more 11.54.26 # gevaerts: not all hardware support bidirectional endpoints so there should be at least on for recv and one for send 11.55.16 # Yes. That assumption is the real bug right now 11.56.04 Quit here2code (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 11.56.12 Join here2code [0] (n=mirc@c-24-10-124-172.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) 11.56.59 Join MethoS-- [0] (n=clemens@host-091-096-210-074.ewe-ip-backbone.de) 12.03.36 Quit DerDome ("Leaving.") 12.04.04 Join tvelocity [0] (n=tony@195.167.65.111) 12.09.51 Quit mcuelenaere () 12.10.53 Quit MethoS- (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 12.12.54 Nick fxb__ is now known as fxb (n=felixbru@h1252615.stratoserver.net) 12.13.55 # B4gder, is there a place where i could find the 'old' libdumb ? 12.14.26 # i'd like to take a look at the math they had there 12.23.05 Join fdinel [0] (n=Miranda@modemcable204.232-203-24.mc.videotron.ca) 12.24.53 Join massiveH [0] (n=massiveH@pool-72-76-34-19.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net) 12.28.28 Join chr12 [0] (n=0x0Bo@ppp118-208-80-165.lns2.bne4.internode.on.net) 12.30.32 # I'm looking to get a new mp3 soon, and I'd like to get one that works well with rockbox. What model would you guys recommend? 12.31.22 # chr12: depends, New new, or new second hand? 12.31.26 Quit Nico_P () 12.31.31 # New new? 12.31.34 Join Nico_P [50] (n=nicolas@rockbox/developer/NicoP) 12.31.38 # Well, probably refurbished. I'm a big believer of ebay. 12.32.11 # chr12: sansa c200, version one, and h340 I both have good experience with 12.32.12 # * Nico_P can't get a download 12.32.27 # but I'll leave it to others to recommend better than I can 12.33.59 # voltagex: Is the screen large enough for typical use? The iPods seem to have a fair bit more screen space. 12.34.17 # chr12: www.rockbox.org/wiki/BuyersGuide 12.34.23 # GodEater: thanks... 12.34.49 # Thanks GodEater 12.34.52 # np 12.37.28 Quit here2code (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 12.37.55 Join here2code [0] (n=mirc@c-24-10-124-172.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) 12.39.02 Join orly_owl [0] (n=DavoDink@c122-108-109-84.sunsh1.vic.optusnet.com.au) 12.40.28 # * Nico_P would've preferred the 3.0 version string to be simply "3.0" 12.40.45 # Nico_P: it's only a version string. 12.40.47 # woooooo 3.0! 12.45.59 # can't wiat for 3.11 12.46.11 # was the best ver before they screwed it all up 12.47.51 # best version of what ? 12.48.30 Quit tvelocity (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 12.49.56 # windows 12.49.58 # ^^ 12.50.16 # im waiting for 3.11 rockbox for workgroups 12.53.45 # * massiveH waits for rockbox nt 12.57.01 # 4.0? 12.57.05 # or 3.5? 12.58.10 # expect Rockbox NT shortly after GNU ships a stable Hurd 12.58.55 # * orly_owl holds his breath. 12.59.43 Join avis [0] (n=ident@pdpc/supporter/student/avis) 13.00.17 # CDC got into linux stuff? 13.02.11 Quit lasser () 13.02.12 Join shim`work [0] (n=shimmy@panic.brainsware.at) 13.02.21 Join tvelocity [0] (n=tony@195.167.65.111) 13.02.32 Quit einhirn ("Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org") 13.03.18 Quit chr12 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 13.08.31 Join lasser [0] (n=f@W98ac.w.pppool.de) 13.09.16 Quit here2code (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 13.09.21 Join here2code [0] (n=mirc@c-24-10-124-172.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) 13.12.44 Quit avis ("taktaktaktakkkk") 13.14.10 Join roberth [0] (n=roberth@ti541110a080-0853.bb.online.no) 13.14.30 Join DerDome [0] (n=DerDome@dslb-082-083-192-066.pools.arcor-ip.net) 13.14.39 # is there any port for ipod classic under way? 13.14.44 # no 13.14.53 # :( 13.15.42 # we dont take kindly to ipods around here 13.16.04 # "dear mr Jobs, I'm sending my Ipod Classic back for a refund since the dues in Rockbox have no version for it and you make it very hard for us" 13.16.19 # there, print it out and send it away! ;-) 13.16.29 # even though I can't spell 13.16.38 # i dont own one, but i want to buy, but i use flac mainly so i can play my music on it 13.17.19 # rockbox works great on my iriver h340 13.17.27 # orly 13.18.29 Join avis [0] (n=ident@pdpc/supporter/student/avis) 13.18.32 # Hi guys - do you plan on making rockbox available for iPod nano g2? 13.19.41 # no 13.19.57 # 1) we don't "plan" ports, they're just made by the people who wants to 13.20.05 # ive lost track of all the ipod models. mainly because i dont care 13.20.05 # 2) the nano 2nd gen is a hard nut to crack 13.24.38 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 13.28.38 Join MarcGuay [0] (n=chatzill@ip216-239-68-128.vif.net) 13.31.36 Quit DerDome ("Leaving.") 13.31.49 Join DerDome [0] (n=DerDome@dslb-082-083-192-066.pools.arcor-ip.net) 13.32.54 Quit here2code (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 13.33.10 Join LambdaCalculus37 [0] (n=LambdaCa@nmd.sbx09467.newyony.wayport.net) 13.33.20 Join here2code [0] (n=mirc@c-24-10-124-172.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) 13.33.50 Join dabujo [0] (i=xx@p4FDB39EA.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 13.34.15 Quit w1ll14m ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)") 13.35.58 Join brainslug [0] (n=4e69ab8b@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-718268ec8b98f8b3) 13.38.02 Quit brainslug (Client Quit) 13.39.43 Quit tarbo (Connection timed out) 13.40.34 Join SeeSchloss [0] (n=seeschlo@LNeuilly-152-23-25-113.w193-252.abo.wanadoo.fr) 13.41.14 Join pip [0] (n=pip@unaffiliated/pip) 13.41.21 # :O rockbox is real 13.41.46 Join dibmonkey [0] (n=dibmonke@78-105-171-139.zone3.bethere.co.uk) 13.41.51 # pip: you thought it wasn't ? 13.41.58 # dibmonkey, what does dib mean ? 13.42.01 # it's fake 13.42.12 # pip, did you think it was a large joke project or something? 13.42.13 # all it does is say 'hello world' on your dap 13.42.19 # dib? Where did you read it ? 13.42.24 # orly_owl: stop that please 13.42.33 # Fair enough. 13.42.33 # * pip thinks he got laughed at 13.42.45 # pip: it's just a silly reference to Invader Zim 13.42.57 # Thanks 13.43.20 # wham 13.43.28 Join w1ll14m [0] (n=d584ab1b@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-9a880a626a70c23e) 13.43.35 Quit w1ll14m (Client Quit) 13.43.43 # hmm... any news regarding newer iPod nanos ? 13.43.50 # http://mobile.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=08/09/26/023243 :) 13.43.51 Join w1ll14m [0] (n=d584ab1b@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-2c1e94161c811251) 13.43.58 Quit w1ll14m (Client Quit) 13.44.07 # SeeSchloss: No port, no information, no timeframe. 13.44.22 # yes, atm basically all visitors come from slashdot 13.44.27 # LambdaCalculus37: okay okay 13.45.17 Nick reacocard_ is now known as reacocard (n=reacocar@WL-431.CINE.HMC.Edu) 13.45.34 Part shim`work 13.45.51 # * GodEater imagines www.rockbox.org slowly melting into a tin puddle on the floor of the haxx server room 13.46.04 # what does rockbox look like ? 13.46.11 # I wonder how much BW you need to survive a /.ing 13.46.21 # pip: pretty much whatever you want 13.46.24 # it's fully customisable 13.46.32 # you guys made it to boingboing 13.46.43 # the wikipedia article about it features a few screenshots iirc 13.46.50 # orly_owl: yeah, Cory is a fan 13.47.33 # he would be. he likes this kinda stuff 13.47.40 # Cool : ) 13.48.02 Join tarbo [0] (n=me@unaffiliated/tarbo) 13.50.14 Part B4gder 13.51.06 # I'm currently a bit stuck guys, been away from the rockbox project for a while and I've forgotten how things work. On my iriver h140, on bootup, it says "Vers: CVS-061217", (pretty old, eh?) and i recall flashing rockbox to ROM. I've downloaded the 3.0 release, updated .rockbox on the player (but it still says 061217 on bootup), and downloaded newer bootloader_h120_7pre4 and moved it to .rockbox. However, when I try to upgrade the 13.51.20 Join bertrik [0] (n=bertrik@ip117-49-211-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl) 13.52.31 # dibmonkey: that clipped off at "When I try to upgrade the" 13.52.45 # really? heh. 13.52.59 # However, when I try to upgrade the new bootloader, there are no plugins in the "open with..." menu. I think this is because, in my old rockbox, the iriver_flash viewer was in /.rockbox/viewers/iriver_flash rather than /.rockbox/rocks/viwers/iriver_flash where it is now. How can I fix this? Can i just move the iriver_flash plugin to /.rockbox/viewers and see if that works? 13.53.14 # to the newer bootloader* 13.53.53 Quit LambdaCalculus37 ("Ka-chunka") 13.54.30 # dibmonkey: does your current bootloader allow you to still load rockbox from disk ? 13.54.39 Quit here2code (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 13.55.00 Join here2code [0] (n=mirc@c-24-10-124-172.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) 13.55.01 # because simply moving things around won't help you if you're still loading from rom 13.55.18 # the new version of the iriver_flash plugin won't work with the rockbox you have stored there 13.55.27 # It's definitely flashed to ROM. 13.55.32 # ah okay 13.55.44 # I'm sure it is 13.55.49 # i'll restore the old /.rockbox/viewers from my recycle bin then 13.56.10 # then i have the old iriver_flash back in the old location 13.56.12 # so your bootloader doesn't support running from disk? 13.56.17 # do you know which version of the bootloader it is ? 13.56.47 # no idea 13.56.52 Join yoo [0] (n=ich@86.56.33.243) 13.56.57 # but its probably from around december 2006 13.57.08 Quit massiveH ("Leaving") 13.57.12 Part pip ("It's not your problem.") 13.57.15 Join Rondom [0] (n=Rondom@p57A96A81.dip.t-dialin.net) 13.57.38 # i dont think it supports running from disk, otherwise when i deleted my old .rockbox and replaced it with the new 3.0 .rockbox, it would say "3.0 release" on bootup rather than CVS-061217? 13.57.42 # it might tell you if you try turning on while hold is switched on 13.57.55 # dibmonkey: not if it defaults to running from ROM 13.58.03 # it'll still be loading the one you flashed there 13.58.05 Join salty-horse [0] (n=ori@bzq-79-182-148-118.red.bezeqint.net) 13.58.18 # but the bootloader should present a menu asking you which version you'd like to boot 13.58.37 # hi. missing period in "multitude of codecs[.] See" -- http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/ReleaseNotes30#What_s_new 13.59.24 # hehe, when i turn on with the hold button, it just says hold button is on - switching off 13.59.32 # theres a bootloader version there too, lemme see if i can get it 13.59.48 Part roberth 13.59.56 # dibmonkey: if you take a look in the H140 manual, it'll probably tell you which button to push to get the menu up so you can choose which version to boot 13.59.57 # bootloader version 060811-2251 14.00.22 # I don't even remember if that's an official one :( 14.00.31 Quit fdinel ("Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org") 14.00.41 # * GodEater pulls on LinusN's coat tails to ask him 14.00.49 # it probably is 14.01.34 # i think i should just upgrade to the new bootloader with the old iriver_flash restored to where i deleted it from :P 14.01.54 # i'd be alright if i obeyed commands to unzip to root, rather than unzip to harddrive and see what's new ;p 14.01.59 # * GodEater thinks dibmonkey is braver than he is 14.02.12 # =) 14.02.21 Join iSparrow [0] (n=4b204236@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-45dc48da3bd3c6dc) 14.03.48 # well 14.03.52 # you've scared me now :P 14.04.13 # i'd be fine as long as the old iriver_flash can upgrade my very old bootloader to the new one 14.04.36 # or should i try putting the new iriver_flash in the old location for viewers, and using that one to upgrade to the new bootloader? 14.04.53 # "H120/H140 bootloader, version 7-pre4 (Install the latest current build before flashing the new bootloader). " is from http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IriverFlashing 14.05.09 # does that imply i should use the new iriver_flash to upgrade? 14.06.48 Quit Nibbler ("Ex-Chat") 14.07.47 Quit iSparrow ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)") 14.08.49 Quit Zarggg () 14.08.51 Quit Hadaka (brown.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 14.08.51 NSplit brown.freenode.net irc.freenode.net 14.08.58 # so i just have the choice, whether to use the new iriver_flash or the old one 14.09.00 # flip a coin? ;) 14.09.20 # the newer iriver_flash will NOT run the with your older build of Rockbox 14.09.32 # they are incompatible 14.09.46 # cool 14.09.46 # you have no choice, you'll have to use the old one 14.09.54 # okay dokey 14.10.05 # or the old firmware 14.10.07 # if you still have it 14.10.47 # site struggling? 14.11.03 # /. effect 14.11.21 # oh, we've been slashdotted 14.11.36 # i think it's holding up quite nice then :P 14.11.44 # yep 14.11.55 # Bagder isn't actually on fire yet 14.11.57 # so we're doing ok 14.12.08 # hope people don't smoke near him 14.12.09 # should i delete the new rocks/viewers folder before upgrading bootloader? 14.12.16 # someone should put up a sign 14.12.28 # just want to make sure it doesnt try using the new iriver_flash 14.12.37 # or will it just say "incompatible" 14.12.44 # rather than bricking it 14.13.13 # dibmonkey: it will just refuse to run, so you don't need to 14.13.30 # yay 14.13.38 # * GodEater goes to lunch 14.14.32 # uh oh 14.14.39 # it said incompatible bootloader 14.15.36 # player's still fine 14.15.52 Part orly_owl 14.16.02 # but it doesnt seem like i can use my old iriver_flash plugin to update to the new bootloader either :P 14.17.20 # should i try finding a less recent bootloader that my old iriver_flash can still upgrade to, and then using the new iriver_flash to upgrade that one to the latest? 14.19.07 Quit Rondom (Nick collision from services.) 14.19.11 Join Rondom_ [0] (n=Rondom@p57A96A81.dip.t-dialin.net) 14.19.51 Join funman [0] (n=fun@AAnnecy-257-1-67-132.w90-36.abo.wanadoo.fr) 14.20.03 Join merbzt [0] (n=benlar@193.13.246.198) 14.20.18 Quit MarcGuay ("ChatZilla 0.9.83 [Firefox 3.0.1/2008070208]") 14.22.28 Join Naked [0] (i=naked@naked.iki.fi) 14.25.38 Join XavierGr [0] (n=xavier@rockbox/staff/XavierGr) 14.25.48 # now trying vers 7 pre 3, instead of vers 7 pre 4 14.25.57 # nope 14.26.03 # Incompatible/untested bootloader 14.27.17 Join Seed [0] (n=ben@bzq-84-108-232-45.cablep.bezeqint.net) 14.28.32 Join iSparrow [0] (n=4b204236@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-44713390b062f2cb) 14.33.50 Join tucoz [0] (i=50ca65bc@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-6a13c4863ae617cc) 14.34.28 # so what should i try now? are there any less recent bootloaders about that i could upgrade to as a middle stage? 14.34.33 Quit tvelocity (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 14.34.40 # or is it easier just to uninstall and install the new one 14.35.30 Join here2code_1 [0] (n=mirc@c-24-10-124-172.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) 14.36.48 Quit here2code (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 14.37.16 Join Schmogel [0] (n=Miranda@p3EE21A22.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 14.37.18 Nick Rondom_ is now known as Rondom (n=Rondom@p57A96A81.dip.t-dialin.net) 14.39.50 Join tvelocity [0] (n=tony@195.167.65.109) 14.43.00 Quit iSparrow ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)") 14.43.23 NHeal (timeout) brown.freenode.net irc.freenode.net 14.45.07 Join LambdaCalculus37 [0] (i=44a04303@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-160a922854020e8c) 14.45.59 Part salty-horse ("Leaving") 14.48.44 Join beta2k [0] (n=beta@d150-126-240.home.cgocable.net) 14.49.08 Join moos [0] (i=moos@81-66-128-18.rev.numericable.fr) 14.49.28 # dibmonkey: Slasheri is the real expert here 14.53.51 # hm. 14.54.21 Quit culture (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 14.55.10 # dibmonkey: I assume you have no access to the original firmware either ? 14.55.34 Quit Tuplanolla (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 14.55.43 # the iriver firmware? nope, its been flashed over 14.56.28 # dibmonkey: sorry, what's your problem again? (just logged on and I can't read the logs) 14.56.37 Join iSparrow [0] (n=4b204236@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-4f8662c984900008) 14.56.52 Join Tuplanolla [0] (n=jani@unaffiliated/tuplanolla) 14.56.55 # cursed slashdot! 14.57.02 # indeed :P 14.57.12 # XavierGr: he's running some ancient bootloader on his iriver which has a flashed rockbox image 14.57.22 # i have a very old bootloader on my iriver h140, 060811-2251, and want to upgrade to bootloader_h120_7pre4 14.57.29 # So does Rockbox 3.0 solve the video-out issue for the iPod?:) 14.57.36 # he's trying to upgrade to a later bootloader, but can't - because the iriver_flash plugin won't let him 14.57.38 # but my old iriver_flash cant upgrade it 14.57.41 # :p 14.57.50 # iSparrow: 3.0 brings no features that weren't already in SVN 14.57.51 # dibmonkey: I think there is a way to restore the OF 14.58.31 # yeah, but isnt there a direct way to upgrade it? 14.58.39 # dibmonkey: then you can flash the OF again with rockbox and then completely remove the OF with the new bootloader 14.59.01 # dibmonkey: I am not sure if you can do this on an old bootloader (direct upgrade) 14.59.09 # dibmonkey: to be sure you have to ask Slasheri 14.59.34 # dibmonkey: also about restoring the OF you should carefully read the wiki, which is down at the moment 14.59.51 # GodEater: Thanks. 15.00.26 # " If you want to restore the original firmware, you can do so by using a file from either one of these methods: 15.00.26 # Convert an original firmware provided by iRiver from ihp_120.hex to ihp_120.bin 15.00.26 # Use an existing flash rom backup image file To restore the flash contents of the firmware section (bootloader will be always kept untouched, however we need to re-flash the critical reset vector sector), open the file from either one of the previously mentioned methods by iriver_flash and the contents of the original firmware section will be restored from the file. " 15.00.34 # is what it says on the wiki page for iriverflashing 15.01.11 # method #2 sounds complicated :p 15.01.21 # so yeah, i'll just do #1 15.01.55 # dibmonkey: by convert it doesn't mean rename (just letting you know) 15.02.17 # hehe, lucky im not that silly =) 15.02.39 # dibmonkey: does your bootloader have the boot menu with the hold switch? 15.02.45 Quit beta2k_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 15.02.47 # nope 15.03.01 # just says bootloader version and turns off 15.03.08 # so you can't start rockbox from disk? 15.03.18 # XavierGr: I did this conversation already :) 15.03.26 # GodEater: sorry.... 15.03.59 # I wish I could read the logs at times like these 15.04.09 Join here2code [0] (n=mirc@c-24-10-124-172.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) 15.04.56 # dibmonkey: hi, you have to start latest build of rockbox from disk and then using the latest iriver_flash plugin to flash the latest bootloader 15.05.34 # that should do it, no matter what bootloader you currently have installed on it 15.05.36 # wasn't there a buttong to press on boot to start rockbox from disk (before the bootmenu) 15.05.54 # ahh i think you might be right XavierGr 15.05.59 # yes, the rec button 15.06.07 # aha! 15.06.11 # on the very old version of the flashing capable boot loader 15.06.16 # current bootloaders have a boot menu 15.06.19 # ah then as slasheri suggested you need to start from disk 15.06.22 # and he really DOES have an old one ;) 15.06.29 # because if you don't you run an old verion of iriver_flash 15.06.47 # (which lies in your flash now) 15.06.57 # * GodEater assumes dibmonkey hasn't removed the version of rockbox he's just unzipped to his iriver 15.07.16 # XavierGr: in fact an old version of rockbox which have incompatible plugin api to the current iriver_flash plugin 15.07.54 # ah yes, my mistake 15.08.16 # only the firmware goes to flash right? 15.08.22 # indeed 15.09.31 # (need to leave from work now, back later again) 15.09.38 # byee! 15.09.47 # dibmonkey: also every time you need to update a build (and want to start from ram) you have to start from disk (via the bootmenu which gets enabled with hold) and then run iriver_flash with rockbox.iriver for ram and rombox.iriver for rom) 15.10.51 # obviously the rombox.iriver must be opened with iriver_flash if you want to boot from rom 15.10.52 # I hope I didn't confuse you more 15.11.03 # clear as mud XavierGr :) 15.13.36 Quit here2code_1 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 15.13.38 # Is there a plan to update the official bootloaders for iriver coldfire targets (H300 & H100)? 15.14.00 # If I am not mistaken the last official H100 bootloader still doesn't have the flash capability 15.15.07 # icons? on my rockbox?! 15.15.10 # :P 15.15.12 # and H300 needs enabling of the RTC alarm function and/or car adapter mode (that means having to press a button to select bootloader charging/usb) 15.15.39 # works great guys, i upgraded the bootloader and flashed to ROM 15.16.03 # the flashing to RAM option is certainly new to me 15.16.05 # dibmonkey: remember to see the bootmenu and select your default botting method 15.16.29 # yeah i set default as ROM 15.16.37 # what's the point of flashing to RAM as well? 15.16.46 # hmm, was it really necessary to create yet another sansa page (SanDiskSansa) and mostly empty too? 15.17.25 # dibmonkey: well rom means that it runs the firmware from rom (without copying to ram first). Also it can have slower execution 15.18.18 # dibmonkey: the ram option does this: copy the firmware from rom to ram and execture from ram. While faster than rom you loose a little bit ram (e.g audio buffer) 15.18.51 # my preference is ram because H120 has 32MB ram and rockbox firmware is too small to be significant on the ram 15.19.13 Join here2code_1 [0] (n=mirc@c-24-10-124-172.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) 15.19.23 # so shouldnt see a much of a reduced battery life from reduced audio buffer? 15.19.44 # how many kilobytes is your rockbox.iriver? 15.20.04 # do the math and you will see it is a very very small gain 15.20.42 # the rom option was very handy for low memory targets like the archos. These targets have only 2MB ram, so every little bit helps a lot 15.21.33 Quit dabujo ("( www.nnscript.com :: NoNameScript 4.2 :: www.regroup-esports.com )") 15.23.06 # my rockbox.iriver from 2006/12/17 is 350KB, 3.0 one is 388KB 15.23.13 # glad to see it hasnt got bloated :P 15.23.31 # is that the firmware without plugins ? 15.23.43 # i.e. with no decoders? 15.24.08 # and just to check, i can delete my old bootloader.iriver and rockbox.iriver from root now, yeah? 15.24.35 # dibmonkey: if you have database enabled on ram you should know that it has much larger cost in ram than the firmware :P 15.24.38 # dibmonkey: yes 15.24.40 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 15.24.48 # interestingly the new bootloader is 13KB smaller than the old one 15.26.41 # they shrunk just recently 15.26.46 # dibmonkey: also (IIRC) the same applies for dircache (which lies in ram) it costs more ram than the firmware 15.27.34 Join dabujo [0] (i=xx@p4FDB319E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 15.27.36 # hehe, i have some catching up to do 15.27.51 Quit here2code (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 15.27.55 Join Siku [0] (n=Siku@e212-246-66-148.elisa-laajakaista.fi) 15.28.02 # when i was last around, the bug with h300 series having much lower battery life had only recently been fixed 15.28.21 # something to do with the USB-OTG checking not being disabled 15.29.16 # yeah you remember right 15.29.23 # but that was ages ago :P 15.30.02 # if only we could flash the H300 just like H100... 15.30.33 # and if I am not mistaken on H300 both firmwares (OF and rockbox) can fit in rom 15.30.47 Quit vitja (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 15.30.54 # yeah i have an h340 too 15.31.13 # why isn't it flashable yet? is there a big difference between it and a h100 flashing process? 15.31.19 # or is it just that nobody's coded it 15.31.44 # the second, nobody did it, also it is dangerous so limited number of people can code it 15.32.16 # understandable, nobody wants to brick their beautiful iriveres 15.32.19 # irivers* 15.32.36 # only Slasheri was brave enough to code and flash his H100 without proper equipment to restore it if something went wrong, or should I say "Flasheri" :P (those were the days :) 15.33.32 # haha, brave 15.34.33 # i really wish i had the time to work on that stuff 15.34.51 # I find weird error codes in sansav2 OF: -3577 15.35.02 # a bit too big in my opinion 15.35.10 Part tucoz 15.35.38 # funman: you mean you wonder what the other 3576 errors are? :-) 15.36.13 # not really, I found like maximum 10 different codes 15.36.24 # maybe because I'm always looking in the same places ;) 15.37.10 Join bmbl [0] (n=Miranda@unaffiliated/bmbl) 15.37.13 Join mib_8jnqxakv [0] (i=cdcdc8ee@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-26a2b29bd7c8ec1e) 15.37.20 Nick mib_8jnqxakv is now known as MarcGuay (i=cdcdc8ee@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-26a2b29bd7c8ec1e) 15.38.55 Part LinusN 15.40.02 Join webguest65 [0] (n=4cbd768f@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-34f8973da0237410) 15.41.45 Join n1s [0] (n=nils@rockbox/developer/n1s) 15.45.11 Quit iSparrow ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 15.45.42 # does anyone have the link for the rockbox utility? 15.45.43 Quit webguest65 ("CGI:IRC") 15.47.13 Part J-23 15.48.34 Quit MarcGuay ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") 15.52.58 Quit MethoS-- (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 15.57.16 Join crope` [0] (n=crope@dyn3-82-128-185-113.psoas.suomi.net) 15.58.15 Join MethoS-- [0] (n=clemens@host-091-097-242-178.ewe-ip-backbone.de) 15.59.18 # hmm, one area of my h140 screen is slightly lighty than the rest of the screen, maybe i left it in a place that gets some sun :/ 15.59.31 # lighter* 16.01.04 Join merbzt1 [0] (n=benlar@193.13.246.198) 16.01.49 Quit Schmogel (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 16.07.49 Join mf0102 [0] (n=michi@85-127-39-37.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at) 16.12.43 Join {phoenix} [0] (n=dirk@p54B46C3F.dip.t-dialin.net) 16.14.01 Join domonoky [0] (n=Domonoky@rockbox/developer/domonoky) 16.15.08 Join here2code [0] (n=mirc@c-24-10-124-172.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) 16.16.38 Quit merbzt (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 16.18.21 Join Shoopuf [0] (n=Shoopuf@202.5.84.205) 16.18.38 # How do I know if RockBox will work on my iPod? I don't know what generation it is. 16.18.47 Join mr_pink [0] (n=pete@pjrh2.caths.cam.ac.uk) 16.21.35 # http://paste.ubuntu.com/50887/ all the negative numbers <= 2^12 in the sansa clip of 16.22.19 # a bit scattered 16.22.48 # I think mine is a Nano 2nd Generation, is that compatible with rockbox? 16.23.02 # Shoopuf: No. But double check the model here: http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1353 16.23.10 # Shoopuf. The very first hit on google for "Which ipod do I have" is http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1353 16.23.27 # Shoopuf: either check apples website, to identify your ipod, or try autodetection with rbutil. if it doesnt find your ipod, its probably a unsupported one :-) 16.23.53 # ok it's definitely ipod nano 2nd generation 16.24.21 # bad luck :( 16.24.37 # oh well :P thanks anyway 16.24.47 Part Shoopuf 16.25.36 # oh there is a 4th generation of nano 16.25.47 # indeed there is 16.27.46 Join DrMoos [0] (i=moos@81-66-128-18.rev.numericable.fr) 16.27.47 Quit moos (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 16.27.56 Nick DrMoos is now known as moos (i=moos@81-66-128-18.rev.numericable.fr) 16.29.24 Join funky [0] (n=repulse@unaffiliated/funky) 16.29.28 # 'lo 16.29.35 # I assume the firmware is encrypted as well 16.29.41 # slashdotted! 16.29.46 Join ebil [0] (n=ebil@ip70-174-136-104.dc.dc.cox.net) 16.30.11 Join Schmogel [0] (n=Miranda@p3EE21A22.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 16.30.31 Join kugel [0] (n=chatzill@unaffiliated/kugel) 16.31.00 # does the power management have been improved since 2.5 ? 16.31.44 # I quit using rockbox because the duration of the battery, twice using the original firmware 16.32.11 # On an archos? 16.32.46 # ipod 16.32.50 # video 16.32.56 # 2.5 was never released for ipod 16.33.06 # can someone with a mac test this new rbutil mac version ? http://jdgordon.info:8080/~domonoky/rbutilqt-v1.0.7.dmg 16.33.06 # It was archos only, and 3 years ago 16.33.35 Quit here2code_1 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 16.33.36 # funky: When did you last try? 16.33.40 # I don't remember what version I used, I've read that the previous one was 2.5, so I thought that was mine 16.33.53 # BigBambi: mmmmm, I'd say more than 1 year ago 16.33.55 # maybe 2 16.33.59 # 2.5 was archos only, but runtime for ipods has increased, its now nearly like the original (on some even better) .. 16.34.03 # Battery is much better since then 16.34.14 # ok, then I'll install it again, thanks 16.34.16 # It beats the.. what domonoky said 16.34.32 # nice 16.35.21 # domonoky: do you know which ones are those that battery works even bettern than using the original firm? 16.35.50 # the site is sooo slow 16.35.55 # I can't read it by myself 16.36.16 # Very stable. Battery life has been improved, but there is still room for improvement. 16.36.19 # On all players except some ipods - the 1st-3rd gen are definatley better than OF, not sure about the others 16.36.20 # Does anyone know whether or not rockbox will work with my ipod enabled Pioneer head unit in my car? (it is direct USB input, it doesn't go through an 'adapter box' 16.36.20 # * domonoky doesnt know which one, and the site is slow, because of too much visitors :-) 16.36.58 # ebil: It might do, if not there is a patch that might help 16.37.04 # "there is still room for improvement" 16.37.11 # BigBambi, awesome. 16.37.19 Join goffa [0] (n=goffa@216.220.23.105) 16.37.19 # funky: yes, you have already said that once 16.37.26 # BigBambi, does it use the itunes db format? or a differing one? 16.37.30 # BigBambi: :P 16.37.30 # And I don't know what you are trying to say 16.37.47 # ebil: No, our own 16.37.48 # ebil: Rockbox doesn't use any part of itunes 16.37.51 # ebil: Rockbox runs on many many players other than ipods 16.38.02 # nah, I was just emphasizing that I found what I was looking for 16.38.06 # ebil: And you don't have to use the database 16.38.14 # funky depends where and when 16.38.28 # funky: If it is on some random site I highly doubt the accuracy 16.38.34 # BigBambi, oh, cool. I'll give it a shot anyhow (just as soon as my car+radio gets back from the shop :)) 16.38.49 # ebil: You know Rockbox can dual-boot right? 16.39.29 # ebil: and that it can build it's own database based on the music that itunes has loaded onto your ipod ? 16.39.29 # BigBambi, Hmmm. that's interesting. and it keeps the same "firmware partition + music partition" format? if so, awesome 16.39.41 # ebil: yes, it doesn't damage the disk layout 16.39.41 # GodEater, ok, I'm trying it out then! 16.39.55 # funky: On the video I think that whilst close now, the OF runtime is still a little better. However, on most players Rockbox runs on, Rockbox battery life is much better 16.40.23 Quit amiconn (Nick collision from services.) 16.40.27 # we also do not recommend using Rockbox for watching videos on the ipod video - the OF is still much better for that (ironic isn't it?) 16.40.29 Join amiconn [50] (n=jens@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 16.40.46 # Damn apple and their obsession with control 16.41.17 # (and all the other companies that refuse to give out documentation) 16.41.26 Join in-ferno [0] (i=HydraIRC@ip-62-241-64-208.evc.net) 16.41.38 Quit n1s () 16.42.04 Join culture [0] (n=sam@cpc1-bele3-0-0-cust658.belf.cable.ntl.com) 16.43.51 # and Sandisk which uses weird chips ;) 16.44.57 # funman: Well, nowadays... ;) 16.45.09 # It wasn't so bad when the Sansa lines had PP and TCC chips. 16.45.46 # dammit 16.45.57 # when did /. introduce a time delay between comment submissions ?1?!?! 16.45.59 # oen 16.46.08 # ok, thank you for the info guys 16.46.17 # I'll try it out tonight 16.46.31 # godEater: its always been there 16.46.36 # your comment wont show up immediately 16.46.45 Join toffe82 [0] (n=chatzill@h-74-0-180-178.snvacaid.covad.net) 16.47.02 # lol3izer_: no it bloody hasn't always been there 16.47.08 # yes it has 16.47.21 # i remeber it going years back 16.47.27 # sometimes its longer, sometimes it isnt 16.47.28 # look mush, I've been using /. since 1997, and it has NOT always been there 16.47.37 # bah humbug 16.47.52 # Perhaps you too could argue about this in -community? 16.48.31 # is someone with access to the download servers here ? ( http://jdgordon.info:8080/~domonoky/rbutilqt-v1.0.7.dmg should be moved to our download severs, please !! :-) ) 16.48.50 # s/too/two 16.49.05 Quit goffa_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 16.49.09 # BigBambi: and you can shove it too :P 16.50.40 # LambdaCalculus37: because these are well documented? 16.50.54 # or well reverse engineered maybe 16.51.32 # funman: certainly not well documented 16.52.05 # has rockbox received threats from hardware companies ? 16.52.23 # funman: SanDisk sent a dev board to Bagder. 16.52.24 # for having reverse engineered / published source code and or articles which reveals hardware details 16.52.30 # yep I read that 16.52.35 # Reverse engineering is perfectly legal 16.52.47 # Apple gave a $8000 worth server to videolan 16.53.18 # after threatening them for cracking some itunes drm 16.53.54 # US laws of that sort of thing don't apply outside the US 16.54.05 # and given Rockbox is hosted etc. in Sweden 16.54.12 # you refer to dmca ? 16.54.47 # mainly 16.55.07 Quit Siku () 16.55.12 # I did not check if I had to accept a licence when buying my clip 16.55.34 # I know that some software licences specifically forbids reverse engineering but i'm not sure if this provision is legal anyway .. 16.55.37 # Things like EULAs are meaningless too 16.56.05 # it's worth a try and make the law departement happy ;) 16.56.13 Quit pixelma2 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 16.56.38 Join pixelma2 [0] (n=marianne@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 16.56.38 # BigBambi, it depends where you are 16.57.06 # lol3izer_: Right, and Rockbox is in Europe, specifically Sweden 16.57.16 # licence agreements which you can not see before buying are meaningless in (parts of) europe... 16.57.54 # It is possible that US contributors might want to check, but Rockbox as a whole and those of us in the EU, we can ignore that crap for what it is - crap 16.58.11 # e250 - $34 looks interesting ... 16.58.50 # refurbished 16.59.32 # does it mean sent back by the shop or the customer? 16.59.55 # Either, then inspected and fixed by the manufacturer 16.59.57 # most likely the customer 17.00.10 # i would think anyways 17.00.36 # hrm, is there basicly zero chance of the ipod's video hardware being supported? 17.00.37 # yes, I agree. However it doesn't really matter who sent it back 17.00.50 Join here2code_1 [0] (n=mirc@c-24-10-124-172.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) 17.01.07 # lol3izer_: Unless someone spends a huge amount of time reverse engineering, or broadcom or apple release the data sheet 17.01.14 # ha 17.01.16 # or someone steel it 17.01.18 # steal* 17.01.33 # In which case we wouldn't/couldn't use it 17.01.51 # well, broadcomm HAS released specs before 17.02.02 # specs are no good 17.02.06 # so, its not entirely outside the relm of possibillity 17.02.09 # video dsp are somehow protected 17.02.11 # i mean, a data sheet 17.02.12 # sorry 17.02.20 Quit Schmogel (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 17.02.39 # when h264 will be obsolete by years, why not 17.02.57 # h264 is going to be around for a good long time 17.03.27 # This discussion is getting rqther off-topic now 17.03.29 # someone could also buy a bulkload of this videochips, then you surely get the datasheet. (but what would you do with a 100k video chips :-) ) 17.03.43 # A huge amount of money plus a NDA? 17.07.43 Quit here2code (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 17.11.11 # I am bored reading disassembly of sansav2 firmware :( 17.12.01 Quit funman ("leaving") 17.13.44 # we support chiptune already don't we ? 17.14.14 Quit petur ("connection reset by Leffe") 17.14.55 # some 17.15.04 Quit tvelocity (Remote closed the connection) 17.15.06 # GodEater: jup, chiptunes normally means tracker music, and we support sid, sap and others :-) 17.15.19 # MOD 17.15.27 # is xm supported? 17.16.06 # not sure - I would check in the wiki 17.16.08 # but it's melted 17.16.42 # XM isn't supported. 17.16.54 # Only NSF, SPC, SID, MOD, and SAP. 17.17.23 # LambdaCalculus37: would you enlighten the chap in the feature requests section then please ? 17.17.38 # its all down down down down :( 17.17.48 # eh? 17.18.10 # its not down, just overloaded... 17.18.19 # GodEater: Yes, sir! :) 17.18.20 # ie. slashdotted 17.18.20 # the forums are far from overloaded 17.18.26 # they're just fine 17.18.41 # forum is fine, but the website and wiki not :-) 17.18.52 # no, they've been nuked from orbit 17.19.07 # or possibly just had harsh language used on them 17.19.09 # I forget whcih 17.19.14 # (name that film) 17.21.23 # I wonder what the www stats will look like for today 17.21.34 # I take it as a bad sign that Bagder logged out just as we hit /. 17.21.43 # I'm assuming someone at haxx started shouting at him :( 17.24.44 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 17.26.37 Join Horscht [0] (n=Horscht@xbmc/user/horscht) 17.38.34 Join orly_owl [0] (n=DavoDink@c122-108-109-84.sunsh1.vic.optusnet.com.au) 17.38.44 # You made /. 17.38.53 Quit Zom (Remote closed the connection) 17.39.03 # we know, a developer submitted it :) 17.39.15 Quit SeeSchloss (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 17.39.17 # err ok 17.39.19 # heh 17.39.26 Join here2code [0] (n=mirc@c-24-10-124-172.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) 17.40.27 # we have a pretty good news coverage, i am impressed... 17.40.35 # Me too 17.41.12 # orly_owl: You can also tell we made /. becuase the site has melted :) 17.42.11 # heh yeah it's been tagged 'slashdotted' 17.45.33 # woohoo! the download page came up :) 17.46.03 # finally lol. slashdot be damned! 17.46.35 # ebil: download.rockbox.org 17.46.50 # No nice pictures to help you, but loads quicker :) 17.47.12 # http://download.rockbox.org/release/3.0/ more specifically 17.47.53 # that URL belongs in the topic /me thinks ;) 17.50.14 Join jgarvey [0] (n=jgarvey@cpe-098-026-069-229.nc.res.rr.com) 17.50.52 Quit here2code_1 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 17.51.27 Quit BigBambi ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") 17.53.06 Join Mineo [0] (n=mineo@p57AB7BE4.dip.t-dialin.net) 17.57.16 Quit {phoenix} ("Konversation terminated!") 17.57.25 Join saratoga [0] (i=9803c264@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-eafaea09956eabdd) 17.57.54 Part orly_owl 17.58.25 Quit Wictor_ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 17.58.36 Join Wictor [0] (n=Wictor@0x57366a52.bynxx19.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) 17.58.45 Join jon-kha [0] (i=jon-kha@kahvi.eu.org) 18.02.11 Quit saratoga (Client Quit) 18.22.55 Join J-23 [0] (i=aldwulf@a187.net131.okay.pl) 18.22.57 # Hi! 18.23.12 # what's the difference between 08-Rockbox-Propfont and 08-Rockfont? 18.23.35 Quit lasser (Remote closed the connection) 18.25.38 Join Schmogel [0] (n=Miranda@p3EE21A22.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 18.28.16 # and why is rockfont 25kb larger? 18.29.44 # dibmonkey: rockfont has more characters (so it supports more languages) 18.30.06 # I expect that the Propfont one is proportional, while the other one is fixed width 18.32.51 Quit DerPapst ("iPodLinux rocks!") 18.34.05 Join miepchen^schlaf [0] (n=miepchen@p579ECC50.dip.t-dialin.net) 18.34.24 # weird. I just installed the bootloader (gen1 nano) and rebooted, and it just loads the iPod 'OS' not rockbox (I have a .rockbox in /dev/sda2) 18.35.54 # gevaets: okay, thanks 18.35.55 Part dibmonkey 18.36.44 # apparently it didn't take? weird... 18.38.08 Quit mf0102 ("Ex-Chat") 18.40.18 Join lasser [0] (n=f@W84bc.w.pppool.de) 18.41.03 Quit jgarvey (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 18.41.31 Join jgarvey [0] (n=jgarvey@cpe-098-026-069-229.nc.res.rr.com) 18.47.22 Quit mr_pink () 18.48.22 Quit miepchen^schlaf () 18.50.25 Join Strife89 [0] (n=michael@204.116.245.152) 18.53.30 # ebil: is your hold switch enabled ? 18.53.31 Join dibmonkey [0] (n=dibmonke@78-105-171-139.zone3.bethere.co.uk) 18.54.14 # errr, okay, so i was just using the disktidy facility, with all junk files set to remove 18.54.21 # and then when i look down again, my player says 18.54.27 # *PANIC* 18.54.27 # Stkov main 18.54.36 # should i be panicing? ¬_¬ 18.55.09 # dibmonkey: no panic needed :-) just reboot.. 18.55.28 # domonoky, no, I tried a second time and it worked though. :) 18.55.45 # ebil: good 18.56.33 # i dont like it when rockbox tells me to panic :P 18.57.21 # perhaps we should change the error to: "Dont Panic!" :-) 18.58.18 # "WE JUST BRICKED YOUR PLAYER HAHAHAHA" 18.58.21 # "Just kidding!" 19.00.41 # * LambdaCalculus37 glares at dibmonkey 19.01.04 # =) 19.01.45 Join Lynet [0] (n=larsg@062016224237.customer.alfanett.no) 19.02.06 Quit ebil (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 19.05.01 Join bttb [0] (n=bttb@193.153.230.98) 19.06.34 Join Zom [0] (n=zom@c-73b9e253.09-109-73766c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) 19.07.01 # dibmonkey, in the computer world a panic is a kernel error 19.07.48 Join herrwaldo [0] (n=waldo@ip-81-11-214-72.dsl.scarlet.be) 19.09.01 # in windows its a blue screen of death 19.09.12 # well, linux distros say 'kernel panic' 19.09.14 # rather than 19.09.16 # *PANIC* 19.09.37 # dibmonkey: Keep it on-topic. 19.10.47 Join BigBambi [0] (n=Alex@rockbox/staff/BigBambi) 19.13.43 Quit here2code (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 19.13.58 Join here2code [0] (n=mirc@c-24-10-124-172.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) 19.14.11 Part dibmonkey 19.17.12 Quit Mineo ("Verlassend") 19.18.26 Join breiti [0] (n=breiti@p5DD6BE8C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 19.19.19 Quit bttb ("leaving") 19.19.20 Quit pixelma2 ("-") 19.19.31 # hi there.. i have some problem... ^^ iam using linux (gentoo) and i want install a theme font manuelly cause the site doesnt work.. so i downloadet rockblack_new.zip and extract its in roots home (rbuildqt is also startet from root) but it cant find the font... what is to do? 19.19.33 Join pixelma [50] (i=pixelma@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 19.19.42 # -font... 19.21.17 Quit MethoS-- (Remote closed the connection) 19.21.32 Join bluebrother [0] (n=dom@rockbox/staff/bluebrother) 19.22.07 # what is a theme or a font ? :-) , but anyway, just extract the zip directly to your player, the files will go to the right place 19.22.40 # to the player? 19.22.44 # o.O ok i will try 19.23.30 # you probably dont see anything, because the files are in .rockbox dir which is hidden on linux (all dirs starting with a . are hidden in linux) 19.23.32 # no he cant found the local theme o.O 19.23.40 # yeah i know 19.23.48 # i copied .rockbox to /media/ipod 19.24.26 # but it just said that there it cant download the themes cause the system is broken 19.24.28 # rbutil trys to contact a theme site (which is down at moment) so you have install the theme manually, ie just extract the zip to your player, and choose the new theme in rockbox 19.24.33 Join jhulst [0] (n=jhulst@unaffiliated/jhulst) 19.24.39 # domonoky, nah 19.24.47 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 19.24.48 # domonoky, i selected full install 19.24.54 # but it aborted at this theme 19.25.06 # just restart iPod anyway? 19.25.42 Quit moos ("Time to prepare ramadan breakfest") 19.25.43 # * domonoky is one of the rbutil devs, so i know what it does... the theme site id down at moment. But extra themes are optional. so dont worry.. 19.25.53 # ok 19.26.48 Join ompaul [0] (n=ompaul@gnewsense/friend/ompaul) 19.27.58 Quit bmbl ("Woah!") 19.28.50 # o.O 19.28.53 # rockbox is so slow o.O 19.29.06 # on my ipod nano 1st gen 19.29.39 # what do you mean with slow ? 19.30.03 # the wheel is really unsensible and not precise for example 19.30.34 # and i cant enter any menupoint with the set button 19.31.14 # take a look at the manual, on which key does what.. rockbox is different from the original firmware 19.31.59 # grml ^^ 19.33.21 # breiti: rockbox doesn't care about how the OF maps buttons. On the Ipod it behaves somewhat differently (but much better than the OF IMO) 19.35.19 # besides, IMO the error message from the theme site is rather clear (given you're using rbutil 1.0.7) 19.36.46 # bluebrother, nah the svn one 19.37.14 # bluebrother: i prepared the mac 1.0.7 version: http://jdgordon.info:8080/~domonoky/rbutilqt-v1.0.7.dmg but it still needs to be moved to the download servers.. :-) 19.37.21 # well, if it's current svn then it's the same. 19.37.29 Quit yoo ("Verlassend") 19.37.36 # domonoky: I'd suggest pinging Bagder ;-) 19.38.25 Join mmadia [0] (n=mmadia@pool-138-89-96-141.mad.east.verizon.net) 19.38.35 Join faltrion [0] (n=ca@103.80-202-185.nextgentel.com) 19.38.35 # * domonoky already did, but he has a AUTO-Reply with the text "gone fishing" :-) 19.39.11 # well, as 1.0.7 is out now I'll commit the bootloader rework soonish. Finally ... 19.39.24 # it was rotting on my hard disk too long 19.39.50 # jup, put it in.. we can finish it up in svn.. 19.40.38 # shouldn't be much work left -- but testing is needed :) 19.42.21 Quit EspeonEefi ("さよなら") 19.42.45 Join miepchen^schlaf [0] (n=miepchen@dslb-088-074-051-157.pools.arcor-ip.net) 19.43.27 # i have a small question, do you know of any floss project that do what you do with music abd "mp3" players, but for photos and digital photo frames? (or is this something that rockbox might be able to do in the future?) 19.43.44 Join goffa_ [0] (n=goffa@216.220.23.105) 19.45.23 # bluebrother: Bootloader rework meaning bootloader installation in rbutil I assume? 19.46.20 # amiconn: yep. 19.46.45 # faltrion: Not that I know of, and that is really off topic for here. Google would be the best bet 19.48.02 Quit Horscht (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 19.48.16 Join Horscht [0] (n=Horscht@p4FD4C69A.dip.t-dialin.net) 19.50.38 Quit faltrion (Remote closed the connection) 19.51.29 # domonoky, looks quite intressting else ^^ 19.51.33 Join vitja [0] (n=vitja@79.120.98.174) 19.51.42 # *much* more features 19.52.23 Part J-23 19.53.56 Quit Darksair ("ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)") 19.54.56 Join jerrrykuca [0] (i=50cb7f12@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-add111c2f116aca9) 19.56.02 Quit goffa (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 19.56.25 # hey, is it possible to install rockbox without ipod os installed? just make the ipod to one big ext3 partition maybe? 19.57.34 # nope 19.57.34 # No. 19.57.46 # And furthermore Rockbox only reads fat32 (and 16) 19.58.10 # jerrrykuca: you know that rockbox is not linux, right? 19.58.57 # gevaerts: hm, yes put i thought maybe you could install rockbox on ipodlinux or something... 19.59.18 # Rockbox is a replacememnt firmware, not an application 19.59.22 # You can install both if you like, but they are mostly unrelated 20.01.37 # my problem is that the ipod will not recover in itunes.. (error 1418), so maybe i'm just f***ed 20.08.27 # hm 20.08.37 # crap i cant leave fire demo 20.08.47 # and now its hanging but playback is still normal 20.09.03 # hm how can i exit this demos? 20.09.07 Quit dabujo (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 20.09.13 # menu.. long menu, prev, long prev doesnt work 20.09.23 # breiti: have a look at the manual. That should tell you 20.09.39 # iam already in chapter browsing and playing 20.10.10 # You need the plugins chapter 20.10.57 # so i should print it and get it with.... if i started sth. on travel and doesnt know how to reset? :/ 20.11.09 # http://download.rockbox.org/manual/rockbox-ipodnano/rockbox-buildch10.html#x13-18700010.2.5 20.11.12 # menu isnt working 20.11.29 # breiti: if all fails, you can always reset the device with menu+select i think... 20.12.04 # domonoky, yes i can 20.12.10 # but that shouldnt be? 20.12.17 # o.O 20.12.23 # No, that's unnecessary 20.12.36 # menu+set short holding was helping 20.12.42 # If you check the plugins chapter, you'll find that there is a convention 20.13.19 Part jerrrykuca 20.13.22 # It's either just Menu, or (when the plugin needs more buttons) Menu+Select 20.13.37 # And you don't need to hold them, just short press 20.14.33 # amiconn: it seems the manual is wrong for this plugin ? it says Menu to Quit the Firedemo... 20.14.47 # hah 20.14.49 # i love the metronome 20.14.52 # domonoky: hmm? 20.14.54 # tip tip tip tip... 20.15.43 # domonoky: Then the manual doesn't match reality 20.16.14 # But in this case reality should be adjusted to match the manual (because the other option would be silly if Menu alone does nothing...) 20.16.56 Quit kugel ("ChatZilla 0.9.83 [Firefox 3.0.2/2008091620]") 20.17.19 Join kugel [0] (n=chatzill@unaffiliated/kugel) 20.17.41 # amiconn: I think we need both. Make things behave correctly in trunk, but make the manual match the build for 3.0 20.20.12 # the fire plugin was one of the last ones to be _converted_ to PLA, and the manual not updated accordingly... :\ 20.20.25 Join beta2k_ [0] (n=beta@d150-126-240.home.cgocable.net) 20.20.56 Nick fxb is now known as fxb__ (n=felixbru@h1252615.stratoserver.net) 20.22.48 Join here2code_2 [0] (n=c0373409@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-f96cbd2b733c66a2) 20.24.53 Quit kugel ("ChatZilla 0.9.83 [Firefox 3.0.1/2008072820]") 20.27.49 Quit in-ferno (" HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- *I* use it, so it must be good!") 20.31.51 Quit beta2k (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 20.32.19 # slashdot slashdot slashdot 20.32.32 Join kugel [0] (n=chatzill@unaffiliated/kugel) 20.32.52 Quit kugel (Remote closed the connection) 20.33.00 # yup 20.33.16 Join kugel [0] (n=chatzill@unaffiliated/kugel) 20.34.03 # poor webserver 20.34.03 # jup, rockbox made the news, very good news coverage.. 20.34.34 # the response is quite amazing 20.34.42 # Indeed, massive amount 20.34.56 # This rockbox thing must be better than we thought! 20.34.56 Quit miepchen^schlaf () 20.35.25 # * amiconn would prefer less response and a usable webserver instead :/ 20.35.47 # BigBambi: indeed. How could we miss that? 20.35.56 # * bluebrother agrees with amiconn 20.36.02 # bluebrother: Silly old us :) 20.36.25 # I'll try to up to 250 20.36.41 Join funman [0] (n=fun@AAnnecy-257-1-67-132.w90-36.abo.wanadoo.fr) 20.37.06 # funnily the server was quite fast this morning. At least when I updated the rbutil wiki page 20.37.19 # Bagder: you noticed the rbutil mac binary? 20.37.32 # bluebrother: already there :) 20.37.44 # see my last wiki update... 20.38.20 # now the only build missing is the linux 64bit one... 20.38.29 # * bluebrother missed that. Oh my, it's been a day ... 20.38.59 Join miepchen^schlaf [0] (n=miepchen@dslb-088-074-051-157.pools.arcor-ip.net) 20.39.09 Join hospadar [0] (n=2308306b@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-393126a0b4263459) 20.39.21 # howdy 20.40.03 Join beta2k [0] (n=beta@d150-126-240.home.cgocable.net) 20.40.33 # I was wondering 20.40.50 # wondering is good :-) 20.40.52 # does anyone know if/how well video playback works on an ipod photo? 20.40.55 # hehe 20.41.02 # not bad at all 20.41.07 # Fairly decent. 20.41.35 # because I have a zen vision:m and I may have the opportunity to get my hands on a cheap old photo 20.41.47 # and my vision:m is a little beat up 20.42.01 # so I'd like to switch 20.42.41 # hospadar: Reports seem to indicate you'll at least get watchable framerates at decent visual quality. Better framerates than some OFs claim, but don't expect a full 30. 20.43.15 # I think the PluginMpegplayer page in our wiki will show what some people have gotten as test results, but you never know the state of the file they used and it's been a while since the last person updated for the iPod Photo I think. 20.43.17 # how about on an ipod video? don't those have hardware decoders? 20.43.18 # If you can even get to the page. 20.43.23 # We can't use the hardware decoder. 20.43.28 # ahh 20.43.34 # Not enough information on it. 20.43.34 # so the results would be about the same? 20.43.37 # Worse 20.43.41 # Bigger screen, same speed processor 20.43.48 # oh I see 20.43.59 # what kind of processor do the ipods use? 20.44.03 # is it an ARM? 20.44.07 # It's an ARM with two 80mhz cores. 20.44.58 # hospadar: if you're interested in video on rockbox, I wouldn't recommend an ipod 20.45.00 # am I correct in assuming though that if I chop down the video bitrate I can get better speed 20.45.04 # oh really 20.45.12 # what would be better? 20.45.51 # Gigabeat 20.45.53 # I'd recommend a gigabeat F 20.45.59 # Much faster CPU 20.46.01 # 320x240 screen like the iPod, MUCH faster CPU. 20.46.02 # also I was wondering how file transfers work with rockbox, does it just give you a mountable filesystem? 20.46.14 # Yes 20.46.19 # sweet 20.46.26 # You use a FAT32 filesystem and put data wherever you feel like it. 20.47.00 # how do you guys develop this? does gcc compile to the processors these players use? 20.47.14 # yes 20.47.18 # jup, all thanks to gcc :-) 20.48.01 Join whitbeast [0] (n=62db2226@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-af24036359373f1b) 20.48.28 Nick funman is now known as namnuf (n=fun@AAnnecy-257-1-67-132.w90-36.abo.wanadoo.fr) 20.49.01 Join m0f0x_ [0] (n=m0f0x@189-47-37-236.dsl.telesp.net.br) 20.49.12 Nick namnuf is now known as funman (n=fun@AAnnecy-257-1-67-132.w90-36.abo.wanadoo.fr) 20.49.33 Quit thegeek (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 20.50.41 Quit beta2k_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 20.51.40 Quit whitbeast (Client Quit) 20.52.42 Quit perrikwp (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 20.52.42 Quit GodEater (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 20.52.42 Quit LambdaCalculus37 (Connection reset by peer) 20.53.33 Quit mmadia ("http://www.haiku-os.org , #haiku") 20.54.15 Join star_jasmine [0] (n=arwyneve@75.108.74.16) 20.54.37 # hi everyone. in the rockbox utility released today, I a 20.55.15 # am not able to change options for the tts creation of voices. I get as far as configuring tts once I have picked sapi, and get an error repor consistently. can someone help? 20.56.10 # REPORT 20.56.15 # USING WINDOWS 20.59.26 Join perrikwp [0] (i=d1a8d351@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-f7693c3859adee0e) 21.00.06 Join nbcs [0] (i=nbcs@125.134.44.122) 21.00.15 # star_jasmine: no need to scream ... 21.00.17 Quit m0f0x (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 21.01.35 # sorry I didn't realize my capslock was on. it must have gotten stuck. I appologize 21.02.06 Join bughunter2 [0] (n=Vista@77.164.66.126) 21.02.08 # hmm, there seems something to be broken. 21.02.26 # you're on windows xp? You have SAPI voices installed? 21.02.55 Join tvelocity [0] (n=tony@195.167.65.109) 21.03.18 # yes. that's right. rockbox utliity didn't let me make sapi 4 previously, but allowed for sapi5 voices to be created 21.03.48 # I would love it if sai4 worked. it used to have the option, but couldn't create one 21.04.12 # and my cygwin is horrible at the moment. very slow for no reason 21.04.42 # domonoky: ping 21.05.02 # sapi4 rather 21.07.55 # someone help me how to enable 'RTC alarm' on H300 21.08.03 # I know how to compiling, but FS#7814 patch doesn't work 21.08.11 Join thegeek [0] (n=nnscript@s080a.studby.ntnu.no) 21.08.16 Quit miepchen^schlaf () 21.13.42 # nbcs: it might be out of date ... does it apply cleanly? 21.15.07 # type 'make' -> http://www.ihuf.net/board/skin/ihuf_v2_rockbox_qna_nct/view_img.php?file=data/rockbox_qna/1221987519/01.JPG 21.15.52 # star_jasmine:what error do you get ? 21.16.23 # that is the result 21.17.12 # well, then it is out of date. 21.17.33 # which means you need to resync it. 21.17.39 # nbcs: did you try "make clean" and reconfigure before? 21.18.01 # * bluebrother somewhat forgot about that possibility 21.18.18 # those additional language strings sometimes need it (from what I remember) 21.18.24 # I did 21.19.29 # how do I telL WHAT I SAYS? IT WON'T LET ME SEE THE ERROR REPORT 21.19.50 Quit BigBambi (Remote closed the connection) 21.19.59 Join BigBambi [0] (n=Alex@rockbox/staff/BigBambi) 21.19.59 # star_jasmine: take care of your caps lock button :o 21.20.16 # or use shift :) 21.20.26 # domonoky: I noticed an issue running w2k too: it simply hangs. Doesn't eat up cpu. 21.20.27 Quit Strife89 ("Leaving") 21.20.38 # haven't tried checking the debug output yet. 21.20.53 # i think i see the problem... lets do some tests.. 21.21.12 # FS#7814 suceeded Thursday, 05 June 2008 by PaulJam (PaulJam) 21.21.17 # ok sorry 21.22.09 Part star_jasmine 21.22.47 # nbcs: ok, looks really out of sync then. I believe there are some hints that it has to do with some more work on moving the GUI to viewports, unfortunately I don't know enough about it 21.23.26 # well, thank you anyway 21.24.50 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 21.29.35 Join star_jasmine [0] (n=arwyneve@75.108.74.16) 21.32.54 Join pocari [0] (i=43a84661@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-04e1762503513111) 21.33.57 # Hi rtutilqt doesn't install correctly on my mac am I doing something wrong here? 21.34.18 # define not properly 21.34.40 # after drag-drop installation, the app doesn't even start 21.34.43 # "smoke comes out of my PC"? 21.34.59 # pocari: try starting it from a terminal to have some output 21.35.08 # ok 21.36.53 # error 10810 21.38.49 # Should I just get the source and compile it my self? Also is this not the pre-compiled binary for the OSX? 21.39.38 # if you can run it on OSX it's the good binary 21.39.58 # I can't even run it from the terminal, 21.40.02 # well, what binary are you running anyway? 21.40.04 # and I think it was built recently so try to check what's the error in the source 21.40.18 # what's the "error 10810" ? I thought it was a rbutil code 21.40.56 # I got the 1.0.7 off the site, and I don't understand the error also it just doesn't even start in OSX 21.41.00 Quit hospadar ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 21.41.16 Quit funman ("leaving") 21.43.19 # Google seems to suggest error 10810 is a process overflow 21.43.43 # ah 21.44.52 # anyone knows the md5 for the original dmg? 21.45.36 # well, the dmg having 1.4M size sounds broken to me. 21.46.17 # the linux binary is compressed above 4M, and I'd expect a universal binary to double the size 21.46.18 # I thought that also 21.46.57 # intesresting 21.47.36 # domonoky: and another ping ... ;-) 21.47.51 # uh.. 21.48.16 # yeah the earlier release has been 12M each, I wonder where the 1.0.7 is.... 21.48.31 # hmm, the sansa clip doesn't have an lcd, or does it? 21.48.57 # bertrik: Small, weird lookin' one. 21.48.58 # hm, it seems i have messd up this mac build again.. :-/ 21.49.03 # It's mono, but with a colored backdrop 21.49.09 # bertrik: I think that technically it's not lcd but oled. 21.49.29 # gevaerts, exactly 21.49.33 # we really need a mac dev for rbutil 21.49.38 Join yoo [0] (n=ich@86.56.33.243) 21.49.43 # bertrik: I'm not sure though 21.52.46 # pocari: please try this build: http://jdgordon.info:8080/~domonoky/rbutilqt-v1.0.7b.dmg 21.54.39 # domonoky: should I use songbird for music sync or can the new rockbox handle Itunes8 21.55.04 # pocari: copy&paste is the best :-) 21.55.37 # :-) 21.55.49 # pocari: As long as the music is in a format Rockbox can play, and you're willing to accept any limitations on finding it in the filetree, any sync program should be fine. 21.59.39 Quit UncleRem1s ("leaving") 22.02.41 Quit ompaul (No route to host) 22.03.01 Join Peter15 [0] (n=peter151@dslb-084-058-191-144.pools.arcor-ip.net) 22.03.01 Join ompaul [0] (n=ompaul@gnewsense/friend/ompaul) 22.03.47 # macpod installation has failed so I'll just use it on my PC as a winpod 22.04.13 # pocari: The manual should mention that it must be converted to FAT32 first 22.04.24 # You can still use it on a mac once it's FAT32 formatted, but iTunes on mac won't like it. 22.04.24 # right done that, 22.04.51 # right the nano is already fat32 but it's says it's not 22.05.02 Join merbanan [0] (n=banan@83.233.242.130) 22.05.49 # Might be some issue with my Ipod also I'll re-format and try once again 22.06.13 Quit ompaul (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 22.06.43 # You don't *just* reformat it 22.06.50 # Did you follow the full conversion steps? 22.07.23 # yes 22.07.34 # pocari: What says it's not FAT32 formatted? 22.07.49 # the automatic instllation tool 22.09.20 Join ompaul [0] (n=ompaul@gnewsense/friend/ompaul) 22.09.27 # Then it still has an Apple Partition Map 22.09.56 # As Llorean said, you need to follow the instructions to fully convert it. 22.12.54 Quit lasser () 22.21.07 Join krazykit [0] (n=kkit@adsl-76-251-245-37.dsl.ipltin.sbcglobal.net) 22.21.31 Quit bluebrother (Nick collision from services.) 22.21.36 Join bluebrother [0] (n=dom@rockbox/staff/bluebrother) 22.23.20 Join mf0102 [0] (n=michi@85-127-39-37.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at) 22.23.34 Quit jeffdameth (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 22.26.03 Join jeffdameth [0] (n=jeff@dyndsl-091-096-033-123.ewe-ip-backbone.de) 22.36.48 Part nbcs 22.37.42 Join n17ikh|Lappy [0] (n=n17ikh@130-127-73-84.lightsey.resnet.clemson.edu) 22.40.24 Join bill2or3 [0] (i=bill@cloudburst.xmission.com) 22.42.15 Join skinneet [0] (n=trevor@gatekeeper.skinnayt.ca) 22.44.31 Quit advcomp2019 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 22.45.19 Join barrywardell [0] (n=barrywar@79.97.87.130) 22.46.13 # I just installed RB on an iriver H340, it boots, says "Rockbox boot loader, Version 5, Batt: 4.05v", hangs for a bit, and then says ""ATA error: -1, Insert USB cable and press a button". 22.46.51 # I have a .rockbox directory with a rockbox.iriver file in it, (and the rest of the rb stuff). The iriver firmware still boots fine. 22.47.03 # any ideas why the RB fw isn't booting for me? 22.47.15 Quit neddy1 (Connection timed out) 22.47.58 # note: this player has been in a drawer for a while, so I don't know how good the battery is, but it does say 4.05V. 22.49.06 Join advcomp2019 [0] (n=advcomp2@unaffiliated/advcomp2019) 22.49.36 Join ameyer [0] (n=ameyer17@adsl-75-57-180-230.dsl.emhril.sbcglobal.net) 22.49.54 # giving it a good charge is always a good idea 22.50.24 # that's my best guess as to what's wrong, but I thought I'd ask. 22.51.11 # are dynamicly created playlists removed on when the Rockbox player is shutdown and restarted? 22.51.23 # I've ordered a new battery. I think that 'ATA Error: -1' indicates that it couldn't read the drive, but the iriver firmware reads it ok, so I don't know. 22.51.39 # skinneet: no 22.51.46 # hrmmm 22.51.50 # seem to have a problem with that then 22.52.13 # lately, I have been creating playlists from the database and when I shutdown and restart the player, the playlist is gone 22.52.26 Quit Peter15 () 22.53.17 # Can you try checking the filesystem for errors? 22.53.26 # ok 22.54.55 # and for free space.. 22.55.14 # I definitely have free space on the system 22.56.40 Quit lol3izer_ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 22.56.55 Join lol3izer_ [0] (i=lol3@72.2.63.189) 22.57.36 Join KEROLiUKAS [0] (n=kp@c-67-163-5-102.hsd1.il.comcast.net) 22.58.59 # skinneet: I think dynamic playlists from the database aren't saved 22.59.52 # although I never use the db myself so I'm a bit bad on details or accuracy 23.00.42 Quit bluebrother ("leaving") 23.00.55 Join DerPapst [0] (n=DerPapst@77.20.73.176) 23.01.12 # * gevaerts checks 23.01.22 # * DerPapst too 23.02.00 Quit Wictor (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 23.02.11 Join Wictor [0] (n=Wictor@0x57366a52.bynxx19.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) 23.02.27 # Bagder: that's what I was thinking 23.02.58 # skinneet: how exactly do you create the playlist (to make sure I test the right thing)? 23.03.15 # go to the database and then select "Year" 23.03.28 # on one of the years, I press and hold the Select button (using and iPod) 23.03.37 # then press 'Select' on the Playlist option 23.03.59 # the either 'Playlist Shuffle' or 'Insert Shuffled' with Select 23.04.04 # let song start playing... 23.04.09 # pause song and then shutdown the player 23.04.24 # restart the player and try to resume the playlist 23.04.33 # at which point I get the "Nothing to Resume" 23.05.16 # Works fine here 23.05.40 Join mcuelenaere [0] (n=mcuelena@rockbox/developer/mcuelenaere) 23.06.24 # How are you shutting down? 23.06.26 # here2code, here2code_2: around? 23.06.56 # BigBambi: sometimes, I let it shutdown via the timeout function... other times, I press and hold the play button when at the main menu 23.07.09 # OK 23.07.35 # Just checking you weren't rebooting with menu + select (some people seem to think this equals shutdown) 23.08.04 Quit perrikwp ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") 23.08.48 # yea 23.08.51 Join andrew33 [0] (n=andrew@p57B12C58.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 23.08.59 # this used to work awhile ago but now it doesn't 23.09.06 # it didn't bother me to much but lately it has 23.09.11 # Did you check the filesystem? 23.09.15 # doing an fsck right now 23.09.27 # on the second partition on this iPod 23.09.31 # I am running this from linux 23.09.57 Quit yoo ("Verlassend") 23.10.05 Part andrew33 ("Verlassend") 23.13.09 Quit mcuelenaere (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 23.13.09 Join mcuelenaere_ [0] (n=mcuelena@rockbox/developer/mcuelenaere) 23.14.00 Join kushalone [0] (i=4596a301@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-e7d7ab90f1771f8b) 23.14.23 # ok.. the FAT file system had a couple errors... nvram.bin and config.cfg were sharing the same cluster.. I truncated the latter after I copied the contents off the device 23.14.36 Nick mcuelenaere_ is now known as mcuelenaere (n=mcuelena@rockbox/developer/mcuelenaere) 23.14.50 # and there was a free cluster summary problem 23.15.32 # That's likely to be the problem then 23.15.57 # * gevaerts doesn't like that sort of error though 23.16.27 # yea 23.16.50 # The fact that it's nvram.bin and config.cfg seems to me to point towards a problem in rockbox, not a problem with unpluging the cable at the wrong moment 23.19.50 # does anyone know when rbutilqt 1.0.7 for mac coming to http://download.rockbox.org/rbutil/macosx/ ? 23.21.27 # kushalone: i built a new working version at http://jdgordon.info:8080/~domonoky/rbutilqt-v1.0.7b.dmg 23.21.48 # Bagder: could you please move this to the download server ? 23.21.50 # I fixed the file system and copied the config.cfg file back 23.22.01 Quit kushalone (Client Quit) 23.22.34 # skinneet: did you check that config.cfg looks plausible? 23.22.41 # *nod* 23.22.47 # mine only had the car adapter line in it 23.22.48 # * bill2or3 fsck's too 23.22.51 # ok. good luck :) 23.23.00 # domonoky: you want the b in there or should I replace the former name? 23.23.14 # replace it please 23.23.22 # there... works again 23.23.28 # thanks for your help peeps 23.23.37 # now to read up on the remote stuff for the iPod 23.24.54 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 23.25.51 Quit pocari ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") 23.27.49 # no luck after fscking. 23.29.10 Join smcquay [0] (n=smcquay@clusterresources.com) 23.29.21 # hello everyone 23.30.02 # hi smcquay 23.30.37 Join massiveH [0] (n=massiveH@ool-44c48a1e.dyn.optonline.net) 23.30.51 # i just tried installing rockbox on my ipod 30G 5th gen vid ipod. i'm getting a bootloader error: "can't load rockbox.ipod: file not found". i've properly unzipped the ipod zip to the root folder on that ipod, and have tried redoing the firmware. any ideas? 23.31.25 # What is the directory structure? 23.31.40 # and what OS? 23.32.20 # linux 23.32.23 # .rockbox/ 23.32.31 # then in .rockbox: backdrops docs icons rockbox-info.txt themes 23.32.31 # codecs doom langs rockbox.ipod viewers.config 23.32.31 # codepages eqs rbutil.log rocks wps 23.32.31 DBUG Sent KICK smcquay to server 23.32.31 # database.ignore fonts recpresets tagnavi.config 23.32.31 Kick (#rockbox smcquay :No flooding!) by logbot!n=bjst@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-507a9318582de8ba 23.32.44 Join smcquay [0] (n=smcquay@clusterresources.com) 23.33.13 # he he. i got kicked. yeah, it says backdrops, codecs, codepages, database.ignore, etc, rockbox.ipod, etc 23.33.24 # it's there, but the firmware can't see it, apparently 23.33.26 # so you definately have /media/ipod/.rockbox/rockbox.ipod ? 23.33.33 # domonoky: the new 1.0.7 is there now 23.33.37 # or whatever your mountpoint is 23.33.40 # BigBambi: yes, i have it mounted elsewhere, but yes. 23.33.50 # Bagder: many thanks ! 23.33.54 # odd 23.34.06 # smcquay: Could you try rbutil and let it do the install? 23.34.15 # ah, but i already have :) BigBambi 23.34.33 # That is very odd 23.34.41 # This is 5G, and not 5.5G? 23.34.47 # and sad. it made my day when rockbox hit the engadget. 23.34.50 # yeah, positive. 23.35.01 # 5.5 has the flashy halfscreen reflections menus, right? i don't have that 23.35.02 # ok, so 512 byte sectors 23.35.13 # No, that's the classic (or 6g) 23.35.20 # ah, definitely not. 23.35.35 # Can you check the sector size in the dmesg output? 23.35.55 # sure where does that show up as? can i also see it with fdisk? 23.36.11 # fdisk is less reliable for this. Just run dmesg 23.36.16 # fdisk -l looks like amess, but i see /dev/sdb1 start=1, end=4 23.36.24 # blocks = 96264 23.36.55 # * gevaerts doesn't care about partition layouts right now. Just the sector size. Is it 512 or 2048? 23.36.59 # sd 16:0:0:0: [sdb] 14651280 2048-byte hardware sectors (30006 MB) 23.37.10 # ah, a 5.5G! 23.37.12 # * smcquay blush 23.37.12 # That;s a 5.5G. 23.37.19 # gah?!? how? 23.37.34 # it doesn't have the flashy menu on it! i think it has a replaced HD ... could that be it? 23.37.59 # nah, the 5.5G has just a slightly updated 5G 23.38.04 # No. It needs the same build, but there is a bug in the released bootloader that could explain this 23.38.16 # it still isn't a Classic = 6G 23.38.22 # hmmm ... is there a dev bootloader i could try? (i'm really excited to try rockbox again) 23.38.25 # definitely not 23.38.38 # oh, wait, yeah, the classic is the one with the glossy halfscreen menu, right? 23.38.44 # yup 23.38.50 # smcquay: there are bootloaders at http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/9369 23.39.09 # linuxx86_64? 23.39.12 # or do they all work? 23.40.07 # Your OS is irrelevant to the bootloader 23.40.20 # You install them to the ipod with ipodpatcher 23.40.21 Quit here2code (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 23.40.37 # oh really? oh, okay. i didn't get a bootloader, just the patcher .... 23.40.40 Join here2code [0] (n=mirc@c-24-10-124-172.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) 23.40.42 # * smcquay looks really stoopid 23.41.10 # the usermanual said nothing of bootloaders 23.41.11 # You use the patcher to install a bootloader from that task 23.41.18 # should i've grabbed one? 23.41.30 # No, it wouldn't - ipodpatcher has the release bootloaders built in 23.41.49 # oh, so now i have bootloader-ipodvideo.ipod ... and ipodpatcher .... 23.41.52 # But since that doesn't work, we are going to use ipodpatcher to install an external bootloader 23.42.11 # yep - I'm going to let someone else give you the command, as I don't have an ipod :) 23.42.13 # ah, so i can call ipodpatcher like this: ./ipodpatcher ? 23.42.24 # AH! it has a help message 23.43.02 # ./ipodpatcher --add-bootloader-bin bootloader-ipodvideo.ipod 23.43.32 # the ipodpatcher reports aka 5th generation ("winpod") 23.44.09 # * smcquay is letting ipod reboot .... 23.44.14 # only -a 23.44.34 # the -in part is wrong 23.44.39 # *-bin 23.44.53 # oh, so only -a ... trying 23.45.27 # yeah, it just hung on the rebooting apple before and MAGIC!!! thanks you guys 23.45.33 # wait ... it's rebooting over and over 23.45.57 # d'oh 23.46.05 # * smcquay because the genious didn't unplug the device from his computer 23.46.08 Join petur [50] (n=petur@rockbox/developer/petur) 23.46.22 # smcquay: hehe :) 23.46.48 Quit star_jasmine () 23.46.56 # you guys are awesome. thank you thank you for bringing the beauty of ogg/flac to my device 23.47.19 Quit suom1 (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 23.47.49 # smcquay: No worries, and I hope you enjoy it :) 23.53.52 Quit Dosu_Tivien (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 23.55.42 Join fdinel [0] (n=Miranda@modemcable204.232-203-24.mc.videotron.ca) 23.57.19 Quit tvelocity (Connection timed out) 23.58.08 Quit mcuelenaere () 23.58.14 Join tvelocity [0] (n=tony@195.167.65.108) 23.58.29 # http://www.gulli.com/news/ipod-und-co-open-source-2008-09-26/