--- Log for 04.10.108 Server: card.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: @logbot Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 2 days and 18 hours ago 00.02.33 Quit soap (Remote closed the connection) 00.11.01 Quit {-phoenix-} (Remote closed the connection) 00.24.06 Join miepchen^schlaf [0] (n=miepchen@p579ECDE4.dip.t-dialin.net) 00.27.52 Quit advcomp2019 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 00.27.53 Join advcomp2019_ [0] (n=advcomp2@unaffiliated/advcomp2019) 00.31.09 # The battery will drain faster when the drive is actually accessed vs. when spinning but idle 00.31.15 Nick advcomp2019_ is now known as advcomp2019 (n=advcomp2@unaffiliated/advcomp2019) 00.35.53 Join soap [50] (n=soap@rockbox/staff/soap) 00.36.08 # * gevaerts finally has working usb again... 00.36.13 Quit bmbl ("Woah!") 00.36.28 Join Zarggg [0] (n=zarggg@65-78-69-194.c3-0.eas-ubr6.atw-eas.pa.cable.rcn.com) 00.48.29 Quit bertrik ("Leaving") 00.48.34 # * kugel added his test_results to the wiki page. 00.48.55 # AAC and (of course) MP3 improved nicely since the last test 00.50.13 # Aaargh... 00.51.04 # gevaerts: Nice red :) 00.51.40 # at least not on a supported target 00.51.54 # so, it's not dark-red :P 00.52.52 # No, but not good all the same 00.55.43 # * gevaerts finds DOS-style line endings in isp1583.c 00.55.51 # gevaerts: did you leave LOGF_ENABLE uncommented on purpose? 00.56.06 # kugel: look at the next commit :) 00.56.21 # :D 00.58.01 # I could "fix" the red by adding dummy implementations of the new functions, but that's not very clean 00.58.45 # Or I could leave the red until mcuelenaere can help 00.59.48 # * kugel likes the latter. 00.59.55 Part dan_a 01.00.45 # * gevaerts tries option 3: learn enough about the driver to fix it properly 01.03.23 Quit EspeonEefi ("さよăȘら") 01.03.36 Join setkeh [0] (n=setkeh@CPE-124-181-6-74.vic.bigpond.net.au) 01.03.52 Part toffe82 01.05.33 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 01.06.18 Quit barrywardell () 01.08.50 # * gevaerts hopes for the best 01.09.54 Join FOX9P3400 [0] (n=chatzill@r75-110-23-144.gvllcmtc01.gnvlnc.ab.dh.suddenlink.net) 01.10.45 # Hi all I looking to obtain a c200eraser for m bricked sansa c250 01.10.55 # gevaerts: for which player are you working on USB? 01.11.04 Join barrywardell [0] (n=barrywar@79.97.87.130) 01.11.08 # markun: right now all of them 01.11.14 # USB, a sansa c250 01.11.28 # my bad 01.11.36 # FOX9P3400: what's wrong with it exactly? 01.11.47 # stuck in manufacure mode 01.12.09 # I wiped the onboard storage with killdisk 01.12.18 # Have you tried the normal recovery procedures, as described on http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/SansaE200Unbrick? 01.12.22 # yes 01.13.31 # i get up to to the 16mb recovery partition and after copying a bootloader and mi4 firmware in it reboots and i'm still stuck w/ the blue lights 01.13.43 # ok. "killdisk" sounds like it could have this sort of effect. What operating system are you using? 01.14.04 # xp pro 01.14.17 # imeant ubuntu live 8.04 01.14.48 # ok, ubuntu sounds a lot better :) My eraser tool won't work in windows... 01.14.56 # * gevaerts looks around for where he put it 01.14.58 # i figured 01.15.56 # You should be able to download it from http://www.evonet.be/~gevaerts/c250erase 01.16.24 # thanks, can i get a fool proof manual 01.16.37 # I can quickly tell you :) 01.16.43 # When you get it, run : 01.16.48 # "chmod +x c250erase" 01.17.05 # Then plug in the c250 01.17.15 # Then run "sudo ./c250erase" 01.17.48 # Ignore all mentions of e200r. I never got around to cleaning this up properly 01.17.58 # thanks again 01.18.42 # That should show lots of numbers on the sansa screen, counting down. After a while (45 minutes, maybe more...), it tells you that it's ready, and to press a key to power off 01.19.12 # ok sounds good 01.19.20 # When you're there, it's in "normal" manufacure mode, so the procedure from SansaE200Unbrick should work 01.19.48 # does kwrite open .txt files? 01.20.07 # After restoring from that, it's best to choose Settings->Format in the original firmware, to make sure it's entirely clean 01.20.12 # * gevaerts thinks so, yes 01.20.38 # alright i'll try it out and post back 01.20.47 # so by for now 01.21.02 # Good luck 01.21.49 Quit FOX9P3400 ("ChatZilla 0.9.83 [Firefox 3.0.3/2008092417]") 01.24.13 # markun: now the infrastructure should be good enough for vitja to properly integrate his driver 01.25.31 Quit soap (Remote closed the connection) 01.26.56 Quit lasser ("ChatZilla 0.9.83 [Firefox 2.0.0.16/2008070200]") 01.35.00 Join setkeh_ [0] (n=setkeh@CPE-124-181-6-74.vic.bigpond.net.au) 01.44.57 Quit ompaul (Client Quit) 01.47.03 # I have the Clip target quite well integrated in rockbox now, but I prefer any way to test the bootloader on e200v2 once the target for it has been added to the build system 01.47.59 Join BlakeJohnson861 [0] (n=bjohnson@c-24-118-162-123.hsd1.mn.comcast.net) 01.48.25 Quit barrywardell () 01.48.26 # here is what I have in my tree if someone wants to help adding other SansaV2 models: http://paste.ubuntu.com/53581/ 01.48.32 Quit funman ("leaving") 01.50.22 Quit avis (Remote closed the connection) 01.53.02 Quit setkeh (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 01.54.36 Quit culture (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 01.58.11 Join avis [0] (n=ident@pdpc/supporter/student/avis) 02.01.20 Quit BlakeJohnson86 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 02.01.33 Join goffa [0] (n=goffa@216.220.23.105) 02.02.57 Quit setkeh_ (Remote closed the connection) 02.06.24 Join mc2739 [0] (n=mc2739@cpe-67-10-238-175.satx.res.rr.com) 02.06.40 Join setkeh [0] (n=setkeh@124.181.6.74) 02.08.09 Join AndyIL [0] (n=pasha_in@212.14.205.32) 02.10.19 Nick fxb is now known as fxb__ (n=felixbru@h1252615.stratoserver.net) 02.13.03 Join ajonat [0] (n=ajonat@190.48.123.108) 02.13.07 Quit nutrientman (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 02.15.56 Quit goffa_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 02.16.30 Quit setkeh (Remote closed the connection) 02.18.44 Join |AhIoRoS| [0] (n=ahioros@200.75.224.98) 02.20.09 Quit ender` (" My computer NEVER cras") 02.20.53 Quit AndyI (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 02.25.07 Join jhulst [0] (n=jhulst@unaffiliated/jhulst) 02.35.14 Join ksec [0] (i=ksec@silenceisdefeat.org) 02.38.18 Quit ze ("BUG: unable to handle kernel NULL pointer dereference at 0000000000000004") 02.43.45 Nick ksec is now known as kkurbjun (i=ksec@silenceisdefeat.org) 02.45.06 Join Strife89 [0] (n=michael@204.116.245.152) 02.48.17 Quit kkurbjun ("Changing server") 02.49.59 Join ze [0] (i=ze@cpe-75-82-143-231.socal.res.rr.com) 02.56.46 Join toffe82 [0] (n=chatzill@ppp-69-238-93-209.dsl.frs2ca.pacbell.net) 02.59.07 Part pixelma 02.59.35 Join pixelma2 [0] (n=marianne@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 03.00.00 Quit Schmogel (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 03.05.35 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 03.08.01 Join FOX9P3400 [0] (n=chatzill@r75-110-23-144.gvllcmtc01.gnvlnc.ab.dh.suddenlink.net) 03.08.24 # Gevaerts u on? 03.08.45 # * gevaerts points FOX9P3400 to the channel guidelines about real words 03.08.49 Part RandalSchwartz 03.08.50 # Yes, I'm here 03.09.02 # thanks for the help 03.09.10 # it worked 03.09.14 # great :) 03.09.49 # it took a while but that was worth it, now to get a new connector for my skull candys 03.13.40 # Yes, it is slow. It's not really used often enough to be worth spending too much time on to optimise it though 03.15.43 # still its useful 03.16.21 # i'm glad i dumped the bootloader + firmware when i got it 03.17.17 Join ksec [0] (i=ksec@silenceisdefeat.org) 03.22.00 Quit ajonat () 03.22.09 Quit FOX9P3400 ("ChatZilla 0.9.83 [Firefox 3.0.3/2008092417]") 03.26.22 Join ajonat [0] (n=ajonat@190.48.123.108) 03.29.10 Quit avis ("taktaktaktakkkk") 03.29.10 Quit Rob2223 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 03.33.01 # still no interview :/ 03.35.34 Quit DerDome (Nick collision from services.) 03.35.35 Join DerDome1 [0] (n=DerDome@dslb-082-083-227-146.pools.arcor-ip.net) 03.35.45 Nick DerDome1 is now known as DerDome (n=DerDome@dslb-082-083-227-146.pools.arcor-ip.net) 03.35.59 Quit dabujo (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 03.37.26 Quit ksec ("leaving") 03.38.03 Join aindilis` [0] (n=aindilis@75.146.96.198) 03.38.07 Join ksec [0] (i=ksec@silenceisdefeat.org) 03.38.47 Quit Thundercloud (Remote closed the connection) 03.40.58 Quit mirak (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 03.47.18 Join soap [50] (n=soap@rockbox/staff/soap) 03.49.32 Quit Strife89 ("Leaving") 03.52.33 Join funman [0] (n=fun@86.219.158.180) 03.54.27 Nick ksec is now known as kkurbjun (i=ksec@silenceisdefeat.org) 03.59.37 Join imthedan [0] (n=a@dialup-4.246.12.86.Dial1.SanJose1.Level3.net) 03.59.58 # hey i just installed rockbox.. im trying to play pacbox, but it's saying i don't have the rom or something 04.01.31 # any help? 04.02.36 Join miepchen^schlaf_ [0] (n=miepchen@87.158.196.95) 04.03.10 # imthedan: it's an emulator for the arcade pacman machine. you'll need to get the arcade rom file from somewher. 04.04.41 # somewhere? is it illegal? 04.05.30 # It's legal to copy it off a Pac Man machine that you own. 04.05.39 # Any other way, it depends on your local laws, but is probably a violation of copyright. 04.06.18 # do i need a specific file? in other words, if i search and find one will it mess rockbox up if it's not the right one? 04.07.26 Join kkurbjun_ [0] (i=ksec@silenceisdefeat.org) 04.09.55 Join Rob2222 [0] (n=Miranda@p4FDCC456.dip.t-dialin.net) 04.10.00 # to my knowledge, the worst that will happen is that pacbox won't play 04.10.20 # ok thanks 04.10.33 # finally, can i make playlists with Foobar 2000? 04.11.03 # just make sure foobar is exporting them as m3u playlists 04.11.12 # oh ok right on 04.11.17 # thanks a lot guys. really helpful. 04.19.00 Quit miepchen^schlaf (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 04.25.25 Quit Rob2222 (card.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 04.25.25 NSplit card.freenode.net irc.freenode.net 04.25.25 Quit soap (card.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 04.25.25 Quit kkurbjun (card.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 04.25.25 Quit ajonat (card.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 04.25.25 Quit mc2739 (card.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 04.25.25 Quit Acksaw (card.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 04.25.25 Quit rvvs89 (card.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 04.25.25 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plus_M [0] (n=plus@li26-205.members.linode.com) 04.29.52 Quit imthedan () 04.36.00 Quit ajonat (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 04.36.39 Join ajonat [0] (n=ajonat@190.48.116.103) 04.37.12 Join Waldo000000 [0] (n=roy@203-219-228-242-gee-ts1-2600.tpgi.com.au) 04.38.04 # hi all, on olympus m:robe, morse input seems to be disabled or broken - the manual says that "Display + Power" enters morse input mode, however this does nothing. should i file a bug? 04.39.14 Quit ajonat (Client Quit) 04.42.59 Join ajonat [0] (n=ajonat@190.48.116.103) 04.43.54 # oh, that's the MR100, not the MR500, of course 04.44.50 Join blkhawk- [0] (n=blkhawk@g228005168.adsl.alicedsl.de) 04.46.15 Quit Lambdumb ("Leaving") 04.47.11 # blkhawk-: ping 04.48.44 Part wpyh 04.49.02 # Waldo000000: Be aware: very, very, very few people have that player so it's likely nobody around even knows if that feature is supposed to be working yet. You could have a look at the source and try to figure it out. 04.49.16 # funman: hey, I've looked through your patch. Looks nice 04.49.29 # kugel: I've fixed some errors since ^^ 04.49.49 # I expected that. That's why I wait with adding the fuze 04.50.10 # but still, you already had pretty much code there didn't you? 04.50.16 # like, the model specific buttonchecks 04.50.29 # 'only' the drivers need to be made 04.50.49 # I hoped to see atomicpunk online and test its lcd code 04.51.09 # firmware/export/as3525.h <-- what's that file? where did you get it? 04.51.15 # I just looked at the OF code for it and it seems it needs timer interrupts 04.51.23 # from a patch on flyspray 04.51.29 # ah 04.51.34 # from this patch by hth? 04.52.07 # yes 04.52.13 # FS#8843 04.52.17 # I knew it would become usefull :) 04.52.30 # good that I reminded you all of it 04.52.32 NJoin jhulst [0] (n=jhulst@unaffiliated/jhulst) 04.52.46 # well, I guess we'll need to see how useful it really is 04.53.12 # at least I don't have to retype all the list of registers ;) 04.57.56 # Llorean: thanks for the heads up. do you know of anyone on the development team that does, or has an interest in the mr100? or of any way i can get in touch/keep up to date with them? 04.58.09 Join saratoga [0] (n=9803c6dd@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-a7b078159ab031af) 05.00.00 # Waldo000000: No I don't know of anyone with one, and the only way to keep up to date is to just follow the changelog on the front page. A large portion of changes affect all players, and a little reading of the files changed and the notes can usually clue you in when they do not. 05.01.04 Quit blkhawk (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 05.01.07 Join miepchen^schlaf [0] (n=miepchen@p579EC4AF.dip.t-dialin.net) 05.01.14 # Waldo000000: maybe you can write to the mailing list 05.01.33 # Llorean: k thanks, i might just come on board when i have a bit more time. catchya later :) 05.01.48 Nick blkhawk- is now known as blkhawk (n=blkhawk@g228005168.adsl.alicedsl.de) 05.02.29 # funman: is your patch online somewhere? 05.04.24 # saratoga: I had pasted it on the ubuntu pastebin, let me redo it with what I made since 05.04.43 # but don't expect much of it except that it builds and run main() 05.05.29 # http://paste.ubuntu.com/53628/ 05.05.37 # funman: i'm not running anything yet, but would like to keep pace with development 05.05.39 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 05.05.50 # cool 05.06.18 # I'm trying to understand the new firmware format in the Clip hardware v2, the file header changed slightly 05.06.55 # i'm guessing a lot of that code is from linux? 05.07.31 # only the header with hardware registers 05.08.08 # I don't understand the Linux code in FS#8843, so I didn't copy it 05.08.57 # has it been confirmed that the V2 clip has SDRAM? 05.09.52 # the OF initialises the "external memory interface" that's all I know 05.10.19 # google for "extmemifslave" reveals that this interface is not documented 05.11.33 # googling that reveals a link to a newer version of the datasheet then i have that was recently pulled 05.11.37 # i wonder what they've updated 05.12.03 # I ran pdf2ps on the 2 datasheets and diff but found no difference 05.12.21 Quit mc2739 () 05.12.33 # weird since the page tailor is different 05.12.58 # the v12 one? 05.13.02 # yes 05.13.16 # I hope that if the changes were important they would have added a changelog 05.13.45 # how'd you find a copy? 05.14.15 # of the v12 ? when searching documentation for that "extmem interface" since the register is used in the V1 OF as well 05.14.35 Part Waldo000000 05.14.45 Quit kugel ("ChatZilla 0.9.83 [Firefox 3.0.3/2008092510]") 05.14.53 Quit intrnsic ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 05.15.11 # the link works for you? 05.15.32 # hm not anymore .. 05.16.06 # well if theres no difference its not too interesting anyway 05.16.07 Quit miepchen^schlaf_ (Connection timed out) 05.17.04 # since the pdf *are* differents (every page has the version number at the bottom) my test somehow failed 05.17.38 # Did you do a visual check of the pdf2ps output to make sure it wasn't just generating a generic error file, or a blank file, or something? 05.18.38 # I did, it was correct, but didn't check the bottom of the page 05.20.39 Quit havien (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 05.26.38 # there is a changelog, but the differences are insignificant 05.27.01 # maybe the corrected "CGU frequency settings" will be useful 05.27.24 # or the bootloader description if it's part of the new Clips 05.28.44 # those were in the old version too 05.29.04 # v1 is actually v11 05.29.20 # or rather v10 05.29.35 # so we got an updated pinout and an old section removed :) 05.30.40 # ;) 05.32.31 # funman: looking at the docs, they reference the "PL180 Technical Reference Manual" for "Multimedia Card Interface" 05.32.43 # the PL180 then mentions SD card support 05.32.49 # hm I hadn't seen that in the datasheet 05.32.55 # but from reverse engineering it was very clear 05.33.17 # since the AMS bootloader loads the firmware from NAND I suspect when we boot the hardware is already initialized 05.33.17 # http://infocenter.arm.com/help/topic/com.arm.doc.ddi0172a/DDI0172.pdf 05.33.43 # saratoga: yes I tried to write the driver for it but failed 05.34.06 # atomicpunk is writing the LCD driver, when it's ready it will be easier to get register values 05.35.18 # ah ok 05.35.32 # hopefully thats what we use, since it has all the register addresses in the datasheet 05.36.01 # ah but most are in the AMS datasheet anyway 05.36.03 # some settings are specifics (like voltage) 05.36.51 # and SanDisk use a 'spare register' before running the PL180 code 05.37.02 Quit MethoS-- (Remote closed the connection) 05.37.17 # it probably means that the NAF (NAND) base address is bound to a PL180 controller, and not the AMS NAND controller 05.37.59 # that would make sense since the pl180 is the SD controller, and sandisk seems to prefer SD over direct NAND 05.38.27 # probably helpful on devices like the clip since the sd card handles wear leveling, and not the CPU with its limited memory 05.41.03 # I think I need to check the Clipv2 OF to see if they still use SD 05.41.14 # I try to figure the new checksum they added 05.42.14 # funman: the clipv2 sounds interesting, but until someone gets one is it all that interesting to look at? 05.42.46 # it prevents me from going to sleep at least 05.42.50 # also, how does the LCD interface work on the AMS chip? I see theres an interface for an external controller, but no mention of a built in one 05.43.02 Quit XavierGr (Nick collision from services.) 05.43.13 Join XavierGr [0] (n=xavier@rockbox/staff/XavierGr) 05.43.23 # saratoga: I think the controller is known, it should be mentioned on the Wiki 05.43.33 # I have datasheets or the controller and the screen, but didn't read them 05.47.59 Join Gundato [0] (n=442517a8@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-a2d4abbb0bb998a2) 05.48.09 # bugger 05.48.19 # wtf is wrong with viewports parsing (or wps parsing in general) when I try to set a viewport on a specific y coordination I get an error! 05.48.53 # Oh, lag. Sorry. I have been trying to grab atapwd, but it looks like the link is buggered. Does anyone have a Rapidshare for it? And, for the record, hello :p 05.48.58 # it has a problem with some numbers and not others, I don't understand at why this should happen 05.52.05 # Sorry if this was in the queue, just checking to see how bad I am lagging 05.52.37 Quit PaulJam (".") 05.57.16 Quit funman ("'night") 05.57.27 Quit Gundato ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)") 05.58.42 Quit saratoga ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 06.01.33 # hmm my bad, when you set for a viewport a height limit you don't want to surpass it 06.01.53 # I was trying to see what's wrong for over an hour, the error message didn't help either 06.14.55 Join ameyer [0] (n=ameyer17@adsl-75-57-180-230.dsl.emhril.sbcglobal.net) 06.18.49 Quit reacocard (".") 06.21.41 Join Lambduh [0] (n=Lambda@12-203-112-233.client.mchsi.com) 06.34.35 Quit XavierGr () 06.43.41 Join imthedan [0] (n=a@dialup-4.246.254.168.Dial1.SanJose1.Level3.net) 06.43.54 # will all MAME roms work for rockbox or just pacman? 06.45.13 # Just Pacman. 06.45.20 # that's why it's just called a pacman emulator... 06.46.47 Quit herrwaldo ("Konversation terminated!") 06.47.29 # ok 06.55.05 Join reacocard [0] (n=reacocar@WL-431.CINE.HMC.Edu) 06.55.25 # http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7eT24Rs4XdE 06.55.33 # this guy can play super mario on his sansa 06.55.39 # does rockbox allow that? 06.55.51 Quit AndyIL () 06.56.23 # imthedan: Read the manual, please. 06.56.40 Join AndyI [0] (i=AndyI@212.14.205.32) 06.56.53 # I've read through it, but the damn thing is like 400 pages long. =x 06.57.26 # So make use of the index and for example just read the list of plugins or the plugin section if your questions are about plugins? 06.57.38 # I mean you don't need to read 400 pages if your question is just about pacbox or the gameboy emulator. 06.58.00 # I read through the gameboy emulator part. 06.58.08 # but he has a colored version of Mario... 06.58.14 # Yes 06.58.19 # Which is available as a gameboy color game. 06.58.29 # Well, that makes sense. 06.58.31 # =O 06.58.32 # If you notice it said "Super Mario Bros Deluxe", which isn't an NES game but the GBC port of Mario. 06.58.44 # Ah, didn't know that. =x 07.00.18 # eh sorry, i know you guys hate people like me =x 07.01.08 Quit |AhIoRoS| (Remote closed the connection) 07.01.50 # imthedan: It's just frustrating to have had people spend hours on writing and improving the manual to feel like people just ignore it and ask anyway. 07.02.53 # Yeah, I understand. I honestly did read through it, but obviously I didn't retain the information like I would have liked to. 07.03.03 Join vitja [0] (n=vitja@79.120.98.174) 07.05.43 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 07.06.09 # To be honest, I bought the MP3 not knowing what Rockbox was. I got a $15 off coupon on slickdeals.net for using ROCKBOX as the coupon code. It said "Comes rockbox ready" and did a quick google search to stumble upon you guys. I'm happy I did, though, because Rockbox is pretty good. 07.09.56 Join setkeh [0] (n=setkeh@CPE-124-181-6-74.vic.bigpond.net.au) 07.12.34 Quit reacocard (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 07.13.08 Join Darksair [0] (n=user@221.221.156.151) 07.19.35 Quit imthedan () 07.20.36 Join EspeonEefi [0] (i=espeonee@CERULEANCITY.MIT.EDU) 07.20.40 # stupid question, Sansa is armv7 and didn't particularly get optimized by the recent monkey's audio optimization, right? 07.21.00 # ameyer: AFAIK that optimization is just relevant to the Gigabeat S at this time. 07.21.16 Quit midkay_ ("Leaving") 07.21.45 # There were a few optimisations. 07.22.29 # afaict, some stuff is now loaded to l1 cache on the Sansa due to the recent commits 07.22.32 # in theory 07.22.37 # no 07.22.47 # On Sansa the relevant data is already in IRAM 07.23.49 # There is a *tiny* speedup on the PP502x targets (that includes Sansas) due to the rangecoder struct being put in IRAM 07.24.17 # probably still not realtime at any level, though? 07.25.00 # although it doesn't matter much since even if it is realtime, it'd basically kill the battery 07.25.35 # If you want lossless, FLAC is pretty good anyway. 07.25.40 # More than just marginal speedups are achieved on PP5002 (due to code being moved to IRAM, but still slower than PP502x), Coldfire (which really profits from the rangecoder struct in IRAM), and Gigabeat S (due to the armv6 asm code) 07.26.02 # Gigabeat F/X also sees a little speedup due to the caching improvement 07.26.20 # * ameyer personally uses ogg because 6 GB of flac just doesn't go particularly far 07.27.47 # See my latest performance figure update. Compare http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/SoundCodecMonkeysAudio and http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/SoundCodecMonkeysAudio?rev=13 07.29.23 # It looks like the codec can be split for dual-core operation, then it will become actually usable on PP 07.30.45 Join midkay [0] (n=midkay@rockbox/developer/midkay) 07.31.24 Join hospadar [0] (n=442a4a34@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-a272820462066d00) 07.31.48 # Hi, I was wondering if anyone can help me get some things working on my gigabeat f40 07.31.59 # for some reason, I can't seem to change the wps at all 07.32.13 # I've put some new themes on, and they are working fine however 07.33.00 # * ameyer guesses that the wps files for whatever themes hospadar is using got broken by various WPS code changes 07.33.36 Quit kkurbjun (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 07.33.36 Quit kkurbjun_ ("Lost terminal") 07.34.40 Join kkurbjun [0] (i=ksec@silenceisdefeat.org) 07.35.02 Quit kkurbjun (Client Quit) 07.35.11 Join kkurbjun [0] (i=ksec@silenceisdefeat.org) 07.37.31 Quit setkeh ("Leaving") 07.38.53 Join setkeh [0] (n=setkeh@CPE-124-181-6-74.vic.bigpond.net.au) 07.40.33 Quit jhulst (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 07.45.25 # hospadar, there was WPS code change.. so you might have to fix them yourself or use a different theme 07.49.01 # gevaerts: thanks for commiting changes to usb stack 07.49.36 # gevaerts: I'm going to commit test version of tcc usb driver soon 07.49.40 Quit setkeh ("Leaving") 07.50.09 Join setkeh [0] (n=setkeh@CPE-124-181-6-74.vic.bigpond.net.au) 07.58.38 Join homielowe_ [0] (n=homielow@d206-116-134-81.bchsia.telus.net) 07.58.38 Quit homielowe (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 08.01.43 Quit hospadar ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 08.09.28 Join reacocard [0] (n=reacocar@WL-431.CINE.HMC.Edu) 08.14.20 Part toffe82 08.21.04 Join Deaner_ [0] (n=dean@ool-18bce66f.dyn.optonline.net) 08.21.35 Quit Deaner_ (Client Quit) 08.21.52 Join Deaner [0] (n=dean@ool-18bce66f.dyn.optonline.net) 08.23.14 # hey y'all, I'm having some issues w/ the rbutility v1.0.7 on ubuntu -- I keep getting this error: "Your configuration is invalid. This is most likely due to a changed device path. The configuration dialog will now open to allow you to correct the problem." 08.23.57 # and then when I pick the mount point for the ipod (30g video) and press ok, I get the same error 08.24.25 # attempting to autodetect I see, "Could not detect a device. Select your device and Mountpoint manually." 08.24.39 # any suggestions or help would be much appreciated 08.27.13 # what player do you have? 08.31.48 Quit trisiak ("leaving") 08.32.13 Join trisiak [0] (n=tree@chello089078243195.chello.pl) 08.32.17 # oops.. i just saw it.. i am not sure since i do not know have a 30gb ipod video 08.36.38 # Deaner: Does your iPod currently boot into the apple firmware and function normally? 08.37.53 # Llorean: yeah, the iPod works normally and I can even use rhythmbox to listen to tracks from it 08.38.49 # Deaner: Have you tried running rbutil with gksudo or sudo? 08.40.43 Join Rob2223 [0] (n=Miranda@p4FDCF462.dip.t-dialin.net) 08.43.53 # Deaner: you sure your ipod is actually mounted? 08.44.24 # I believe it is mounted 08.44.37 # I can eject it 08.44.53 # Llorean: I tried w/ gksudo and the app wouldn't start 08.45.22 # And with just sudo? 08.45.32 # giving that a shot now 08.45.36 # it did start 08.45.56 # hrm, same erros 08.46.01 # *errors 08.46.15 # Did you buy the iPod new or used? 08.46.30 # it's a friend's who doesn't use it 08.46.39 # it's in pretty good condition 08.46.46 # but they were using it w/ itunes on a mac 08.46.53 # Has it been converted to FAT32? 08.47.00 # oh, that may be it 08.47.14 # The manual should make it clear Mac iPods need to be converted... 08.47.16 # can I do that in linux, or do you know? 08.47.20 # It even tells how. 08.47.29 # oh ok -- I'm surprised the app doesn't mention that 08.47.35 # I'll look through 08.47.39 # thanks for the tip! 08.47.41 # We tell you to read the manual before asking questions in this channel 08.47.45 Quit Rob2222 (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 08.48.00 # In fact, i was working from the assumption you'd read it. 08.48.03 # ah, sorry about that 08.48.31 # the config tool seemed pretty slick -- I figured it would catch such a basic user error 08.48.38 # again, sorry 08.48.41 Quit nuonguy ("Leaving") 08.48.48 # It sometimes can. 08.49.22 # * ameyer vaguely suggests that Deaner may want to file a bug report against rbutil 08.49.39 Join massiveH [0] (n=massiveH@pool-71-172-28-51.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net) 08.52.11 Join potato [0] (n=potato@c220-237-157-51.brodm1.vic.optusnet.com.au) 08.54.02 # Hello, i tryed to add a modified SOURCES and CATEGORIES file to a patch, but was told they re not under version control. have i done something wrong? 08.55.32 Join Waldo000000 [0] (n=roy@203-219-228-242-gee-ts1-2600.tpgi.com.au) 08.55.58 # potato: How are you trying to add it to the patch? 08.57.38 # svn diff rockbox\apps\plugins\CATEGORIES > anitobomb.diff 08.59.58 # And these are files that you use svn to check out, and have just modified? 09.00.42 # i die "svn co svn://svn.rockbox.org/rockbox/trunk rockbox 09.01.13 # did* like on the wiki, then edited the file in the rockbox directory it created 09.01.28 Quit pixelma2 ("-") 09.01.56 Join pixelma [0] (i=pixelma@212.204.47.129) 09.02.16 # If you just do "svn diff" without any further parameters from within the rockbox folder, does it show all the files you modified? 09.02.23 # Or, also "svn st" 09.02.42 # You need / not \ 09.04.01 # im one directory above the rockbox folder svn created, i typed "svn diff", it said "svn: '.' is not a working copy" 09.04.20 # "svn diff rockbox"? 09.04.28 Nick Dementio_ is now known as Dementio (n=dementio@211.45.234.45) 09.04.58 # potato: "from within the rockbox folder" 09.05.46 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 09.05.49 Join Will__ [0] (n=chatzill@node166.33.251.72.1dial.com) 09.05.58 # sorry, from within the rockbox folder, it outputed the contents of some files to the console 09.06.22 Quit Will__ (Client Quit) 09.06.38 Quit massiveH ("Leaving") 09.07.35 Join Will__ [0] (n=chatzill@node166.33.251.72.1dial.com) 09.07.46 Join stoffel_ [0] (n=sfr@p57B4E048.dip.t-dialin.net) 09.08.47 Quit Will__ (Client Quit) 09.08.56 Join lee321987 [0] (n=chatzill@node166.33.251.72.1dial.com) 09.09.04 # it lists the changes, now you could see if your changes to SOURCES etc. are "picked up" 09.10.19 # hey guys I lost internet for a few weeks. Just wondering if there were any breakthroughs on Mass Storage for the Sansa c200 series. 09.11.09 # lee321987: The patch is on the tracker where it has always been. 09.11.21 # thanks 09.11.40 Part lee321987 09.12.15 # svn diff shows that rockbox/apps/plugins/sources has been edited 09.15.09 Join massiveH [0] (n=massiveH@pool-71-172-28-51.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net) 09.15.18 # potato: So have you tried it again with the /s in the proper direction? 09.17.08 # yes, it still says "svn: 'rockbox\apps\plugins\sources' is not under version control" 09.17.40 # \ is not the proper direction. 09.17.56 # and it's SOURCES not sources. 09.18.03 # i type the comamnd in ussing forward slashes, but the output from svn uses a back slash 09.18.06 Join ompaul [0] (n=ompaul@gnewsense/friend/ompaul) 09.19.08 # i just tryed SOURCES, and go the ame result. the funny thing is, the sources file on my computer is lowercase.... should i delete it and run update? 09.20.22 # something is messing with cases, perhaps. 09.21.17 Quit massiveH ("Leaving") 09.22.21 Part Waldo000000 09.23.19 # * ameyer guesses potato is either running Windows or working with source code on a FAT*/NTFS partition under Linux 09.24.03 # either one could potentially cause weird case issues 09.24.11 Join massiveH [0] (n=massiveH@pool-71-172-28-51.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net) 09.24.19 # I deleted the files and ran svn update, then the patch worked. Sorry for the trouble, and thanks for your time. And yes i am using windows =[ 09.24.26 Quit massiveH (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 09.25.24 Join massiveH [0] (n=massiveH@pool-71-172-28-51.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net) 09.26.54 # potato: yeah, I figured as much after I said that. 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If the documentation is unclear that's exactly when we do expect you to ask questions. :) 09.56.58 Join reacocard [0] (n=reacocar@WL-431.CINE.HMC.Edu) 09.57.02 # Deaner: For Linux, the instructions at http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IpodManualRestore are more useful 09.57.14 # ty 09.59.45 Join bertrik [0] (n=bertrik@ip117-49-211-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl) 10.02.12 Quit nplus ("Leaving") 10.02.25 Join nplus [0] (n=nplus@141.25.globcom.net) 10.08.04 Join jeffdameth1 [0] (n=jeff@dyndsl-085-016-233-030.ewe-ip-backbone.de) 10.13.35 Quit m0f0x () 10.24.15 Quit jeffdameth (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 10.24.49 # something wrong with commit rev 18584 10.26.54 Part potato 10.28.43 # it seems it breakes stack or memory 10.30.29 Join RandalSchwartz [0] (i=merlyn@p3m/member/merlyn) 10.30.38 # podcast is up - http://twit.tv/floss43 10.31.28 # * Llorean is listening to himself on it right now. 10.31.33 # cool! 10.31.48 # Now I get to second guess everything I said. :) 10.31.52 Part pixelma 10.31.54 # dont' 10.31.57 # it'll drive you nuts 10.32.02 # just accept that you did great. 10.32.08 # Nah, I'm really quite happy with how it went. 10.32.08 Join pixelma2 [0] (n=marianne@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 10.32.11 # and that hindsight is 20-20 10.32.17 # kinda off topic, but anyone know how to rename the ipod label in linux? 10.32.17 # it was a very fun show 10.33.20 # It was definitely. 10.40.25 Join goffa_ [0] (n=goffa@216.220.23.105) 10.49.38 # RandalSchwartz: I really liked the interview! 10.49.48 # thanks 10.49.57 # thank Paul mostly though. :) 10.50.52 # I already did :) 10.51.17 # and I was really confused when in intro started.. at the end :) 10.52.21 # you mean, when we taped it? 10.52.27 # we always do that out of sequence 10.52.33 # yes, Paul told me 10.52.57 # because we can then introduce precisely what the show is about 10.53.02 # instead of having to guess. :) 10.53.37 Quit goffa (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 10.54.54 # * Llorean adds it to the ArticlesAboutRockbox page. 10.56.14 # thanks! the more promotion the beter 10.57.59 Quit reacocard (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 11.05.47 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 11.13.58 Join einhirn [0] (i=Miranda@p5B032D3E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 11.17.32 Join lasser [0] (n=chatzill@Wb8e2.w.pppool.de) 11.18.40 Quit Seed ("cu, Andre") 11.19.05 Join J-23 [0] (n=aldwulf@a105.net128.okay.pl) 11.19.40 Part J-23 11.19.57 Join J-23 [0] (n=aldwulf@a105.net128.okay.pl) 11.20.05 Join bimbel [0] (n=Miranda@unaffiliated/bmbl) 11.20.54 Join bluebrother [0] (n=dom@rockbox/staff/bluebrother) 11.23.42 # anyone against me rejecting FS#9449? It's just a limit increase, not a fix at all 11.24.55 # Yeah, it certainly doesn't solve anything. 11.25.20 # Maybe comment that we wouldn't mind a fix for the crash issue. 11.25.28 # I do wonder why that limit is different from the "max files in folder" limit though. 11.26.26 # just did that ... 11.29.07 Join ompaul [0] (n=ompaul@gnewsense/friend/ompaul) 11.29.13 # I wonder if anyone does offline reading of news these days anymore.. just thought that an offline reader for rockbox could be a fun app ;) 11.29.32 # flux: Rockbox has a decent text viewer. What were you thinking of? 11.29.56 # llorean, I suppose that would work in its primitive form, but one that would mark which articles are read, do threading, etc 11.30.00 # * bluebrother would like to see some basic font formatting -- underline and bold, and then a basic html viewer 11.30.36 # I don't even remember the names of the readers people used on the golden days of BBS 11.32.29 Join herrwaldo [0] (n=waldo@ip-81-11-198-172.dsl.scarlet.be) 11.32.29 # perhaps such a tool would be wasted on this day, given people can read stuff from their cell phones - I know I do 11.33.14 # What might be more interesting is some sort of threaded Podcast browser plugin. 11.33.31 Join ender` [0] (i=krneki@foo.eternallybored.org) 11.33.35 # bluebrother: Why shouldn't that MAX_PLAYLISTS limit get increased if people (well, one person...) is hitting it? I agree Rockbox shouldn't crash, but that's a separate issue IMO. 11.33.47 # But that would more or less depend on either some sort PC-side support. 11.34.22 # linuxstb: shouldn't that limit follow the max files in browser limit? 11.34.35 # linuxstb: 400 is already an awful lot. If we think it needs to be larger it should probably be configurable (though as I noted before, shouldn't it be the same as the max files limit?) 11.34.56 # Looking at the code, that limit just defines an array of pointers on the stack, so has no RAM impact (assuming the array fits...) 11.35.02 # while the current number can be discussed I don't think we need yet another patch that only changes a #define 11.35.19 # But I don't know the rest of the code, to say what other limits in Rockbox are appropriate. 11.35.41 Join culture [0] (n=none@cpc1-bele3-0-0-cust658.belf.cable.ntl.com) 11.37.08 # btw, another thing that puzzled me was moving mkamsboot into the rbutil folder -- as we now have the wpseditor it doesn't make much sense to have rbutil and utils in svn, so my idea was to move all rbutil stuff to the utils folder 11.37.27 # or are there good arguments for having two distinct folders? 11.37.32 Quit tarbo (Remote closed the connection) 11.38.03 Quit bmbl (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 11.38.32 # I just moved it to the same place as sansapatcher/ipodpatcher. If they get moved, then mkamsboot can go with it,. But the utils/AMS/hacking/ directory wasn't the right place now that's maturing. 11.39.05 # another option would be to move everything to the rbutil folder and consider the name as "rockbox utilities" ;-) 11.40.43 Join tarbo [0] (n=me@unaffiliated/tarbo) 11.41.24 # I think so far, utils has been used for things useful for developers, not end-users. Maybe there's value in keeping that distinction. 11.41.59 # tools/ is for things needed as part of the build system. 11.42.47 Join peerlessdeepak [0] (n=peerless@122.164.181.105) 11.43.11 # So yes, maybe wpseditor could be moved into rbutil, and we rename that to "rbutils" 11.44.53 # that's another option. 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I think it might affect which mp3 player I will buy. I was basing my buy decision on audio formats supported but it seems that if I use rockbox, that won't be necessary. Any recommendations on a good player? Someone mentioned the sansa e2xx series. 14.15.27 # ya 14.15.36 # the e2xx are decent and cheap 14.15.37 # but 14.15.45 # smacnay: There's a BuyersGuide page in the wiki that has a lot of useful information 14.15.51 # the current gen (v2) players are not supported yet 14.16.06 # It looks like they will be fairlysoon tho :) 14.16.06 # ah, I didn't see that - I will look that up. 14.17.48 # the problem is that no currently supported players are still in production 14.18.08 # so you might have to get a V2 e2xx and hope for the best 14.19.07 # i bought mine for 55EUR 14.19.16 # its the 8gb model 14.22.20 # thanks - I will keep an eye on rockbox and wait for a bit to make a decision. I was all ramped up about the Cowon 2D or D2 but a lot of reports described the navigation as being counterintuitive. bbl. 14.22.23 Join einhirn [0] (i=Miranda@p5B032D3E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 14.29.20 Join moos [0] (i=moos@81-66-128-18.rev.numericable.fr) 14.30.56 Quit einhirn (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 14.34.32 Join schNibbler [0] (n=Nibbler@e181124140.adsl.alicedsl.de) 14.38.32 Join Lear [0] (i=chatzill@rockbox/developer/lear) 14.48.05 Join kushal_12_27_200 [0] (n=kushal@12.169.180.178) 14.49.43 Join spiorf [0] (n=spiorf@host140-210-dynamic.20-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) 14.51.01 Quit Nibbl (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 14.51.24 Quit faemir (Remote closed the connection) 14.54.19 Join faemir [0] (n=quassel@88-106-165-155.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) 15.02.22 # I am not sure if it belongs in rockbox or here because my question is rather unconventional. Can I play songs with ratings of and above a certain score in rockbox? How? I have sansa c250 with latest build of rockbox. Please advise. 15.05.52 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 15.07.54 Quit Thundercloud (Remote closed the connection) 15.08.56 # kushal_12_27_200: check the database page (http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/DataBase) I don't know if the feature is fully supported... 15.10.34 # thanks for your answer, moos. Do you think it would be a good idea, though? 15.11.05 # you wants to sorts your songs by rating? IIUC 15.12.13 # I think you can already do this with the database and custom search (custom tagnavi file). Maybe you can find ideas howto in either the wiki or the forums 15.14.25 # pixelma2: hi, I was suspiscious because the table of supported tags indicated that those aren't sorted correctly when used in filter... 15.17.36 # I didn't mean the filter but a search, although I admit that it's quite a while ago that I looked into that and don't use ratings at all and database seldom 15.17.41 # moos: That just means when they're listed, the order may not be correct, it'll have the right songs in it. 15.18.35 # pixelma2: same here, plus we don't use it 15.19.02 # Llorean: ok, never used this feature myself 15.19.46 # maybe kushal_12_27_200 can find more info in the forums and people who know more about it (thinking of bascule, our database fan ;) ) 15.20.07 # It sounds like all numeric sorting is 1, 10, 11, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9 15.20.12 # And that's considered "incorrectly" 15.20.30 # Probably because they're treated as strings rather than integers. 15.20.43 # * moos remenber last time he really heavily tested the database, was or HCl (R.I.P) 15.20.48 # for even 15.20.49 # I was thinking being able to play songs that are rated 8 and up ... 15.21.30 # kushal_12_27_200: The database page suggests you can do this. 15.24.04 # Does UI simulator execute plugins? 15.25.36 # J-23: Yes, if they're compiled with it. 15.27.06 # thanks 15.32.57 # the table says "Works, but not sorted correctly when used in filter" 15.39.34 Join |AhIoRoS| [0] (n=ahioros@200.75.224.98) 15.39.52 Join XavierGr [0] (n=xavier@rockbox/staff/XavierGr) 15.42.01 Join Nico_P [50] (n=nicolas@rockbox/developer/NicoP) 15.45.30 Quit kushal_12_27_200 ("Leaving") 15.47.09 Join Nic0_P [0] (n=nicolas@rob92-6-82-231-243-63.fbx.proxad.net) 15.52.08 Join funman [0] (n=fun@86.219.158.180) 15.53.08 # linuxstb: ok I let you work on mkamsboot 15.53.43 Quit Nico_P (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 16.07.15 Quit rasher (card.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 16.07.15 NSplit card.freenode.net irc.freenode.net 16.07.15 Quit 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have any idea why calendar is only for recorder? 16.18.18 # There's a keymap patch that enables it for e200 and it runs just fine 16.18.28 # its an ooolllddd plugin that was probably never updated when new targets came on? 16.19.55 # kugel, not sure, I think the was made for a specific size display 16.20.09 Join fdinel [0] (n=Miranda@modemcable204.232-203-24.mc.videotron.ca) 16.21.49 # JdGordon: If you have some time we could talk about some of my patches, since I'd like to get them committed (some time) 16.22.17 # yeah, during the week maybe.. too tired now 16.22.31 # but yes, i want to get ptich screen and pf in 16.24.04 # btw, I've undone the changes to PREFERRED_IMG_WIDTH and _HEIGHT and the album art searching function. It should behave like svn now 16.24.35 # feel like working on bmp resizing so it can be included in the core? 16.24.46 # * JdGordon is getting sick of having different cover.bmp's for his albums 16.25.26 # well, sure, but I yet wait for a brilliant idea of implementation. Also markun wanted to look at it 16.26.02 # also, my studies (on computer engineering) have started, I'll have most likely much less time for rockbox for the next 3.5 years 16.26.35 # nonsensce.... uni isnt for working... 16.27.40 # well, it's not an uni. More of a accademic school. Way less flexible than studying on an uni 16.27.55 # academic* 16.28.48 Join ompaul [0] (n=ompaul@gnewsense/friend/ompaul) 16.30.25 # RandalSchwartz: I've been wondering why http://twit.tv/FLOSS doesn't link to the ogg versions anymore since number 29 16.30.44 Join toffe82 [0] (n=chatzill@adsl-71-132-80-171.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net) 16.31.17 # kugel: saratoga detailed an implementation after 'the' discussion about bmp resizing (before closing the bug) 16.32.07 # yea, I've read it, but I didn't really think about all that yet 16.32.53 # if dionoea is online you can ask him, he implemented a lot of video (well, picture) filters and resizers in VLC 16.36.33 # I doubt you can compare with a desktop app 16.36.55 # The resizing algorithms are the same, there isn't a huge number of them in the wild 16.36.58 # on a desktop it doesn't really matter if the picture is resized on load or not 16.37.11 Nick fxb__ is now known as fxb (n=felixbru@h1252615.stratoserver.net) 16.37.23 # but asking doesn't hurt I guess 16.38.01 # can rockbox be installed to dual boot on all players? Or is it all-or-nothing on some? 16.39.08 # It's all-or-nothing on one or two 16.39.11 # the latter, you can check the features table 16.39.27 # You can always uninstall it though 16.39.36 # The nice thing about the devices which are not dual boot (Gigabeat F/X being one) is they are also the devices which Rockbox most completely removes all need AND desire to use the original firmware. 16.39.53 Quit spiorf (Remote closed the connection) 16.39.57 Quit Zarggg (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 16.40.38 # gevaerts, but, if I uninstall, is the manufacturer's system still installable/usable? 16.40.51 # of course 16.40.54 # Yes, otherwise there would be no point... 16.41.00 # well, I guess there is DRM'd WMA playback - but that's about the only original firmware feature Rockbox doesn't meet or exceed. Esp. now that saratoga implemented WMA playback. 16.41.02 # ok 16.41.43 # * gevaerts thinks that supporting "uninstalling" that just bricks a player would be dishonnest at best 16.42.01 # hey - if rockbox isn't on there...rockbox isn't on there. ;) 16.42.12 # I am going buy my first player some time soon (my birthday is coming up) and I would like lots of audio formats (rockbox provides) and intuitive/easy to use and I guess decent sound. 16.43.34 # Outside of defective software in an original firmware, Rockbox should not in and of itself provide better or worse sound. 16.44.05 # Anyone using a Gigabeat? That is a name that is brand new to me. 16.44.30 # soap, I wasn't worried about rockbox for sound. 16.44.42 # You likely have more "tweaking" options for the audio with Rockbox, but (though I love their enthusiasm) some of the claims of "wider soundstage", "brighter highs", "improved definition" and the like I see on some forums are utter bunk. 16.44.58 # it's one of the best supported targets (as long as we're talking about the f/x variants) 16.45.06 # smacnay, I have a Gigabeat F and did have a Gigabeat S. 16.45.26 Quit amiconn (Nick collision from services.) 16.45.32 Join amiconn [50] (n=jens@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 16.45.34 # soap, you are happy with it/them? 16.45.43 # Rockbox works great on it, but I am not a fan of the buttons on the F. This is my opinion and I know many disagree. 16.45.51 # They come in up to 4 Gig, correct? 16.45.59 # 60GB max for the F 16.46.00 # my f is 100gb :) 16.46.02 Quit pixelma2 (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 16.46.08 # soap, good to hear that - I will keep that in mind. 16.46.10 # (well, 60GB max stock) 16.46.11 # i have a 60 too 16.46.15 # yeah 16.46.19 # i had to mod mine 16.47.07 # I am not a Windows user so I need something that plays nice with linux as well. 16.47.20 # i'm on linux 16.47.25 # I also do not like the way the F is assembled, I don't like the construction of the case. It is not nearly as well thought out as the H300 series (another screw-together player) much less as well "fit" as the ipods. 16.47.26 # so, I recently discovered eclipse as my potential new favorite IDE 16.47.31 # lol 16.47.50 Join Zarggg [0] (n=zarggg@65-78-69-194.c3-0.eas-ubr6.atw-eas.pa.cable.rcn.com) 16.48.01 # All that being said, the Gigabeat F should be easy to find for sub $100, which makes it a hell of a bargain. 16.48.24 # yes, I guess there is always the price balancing in the equation 16.48.35 # and my quibbles over its construction and buttons are far from shared by the majority of owners. 16.49.32 # I *was* interested in the Cowon 2d (whichever) but read that it had a counterintuitive button scheme (three presses to play a track). 16.50.13 # I guess I want the player to plug into my comp and have a linux app like rhythmbox see and copy to/from the player. 16.50.15 # If (when?) Rockbox for the D2 is complete that will not be an issue. 16.50.51 # soap, yes, the menuing and buttons will all be programmed differently. 16.51.10 # fdinel: so how is going the work on LCD driver ? 16.52.13 Join saratoga [0] (n=41becb3b@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-a41e1f298f715794) 16.56.41 Quit schNibbler (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 16.57.24 # bertrik: check http://www.anythingbutipod.com/archives/images/sandisk-sansa-clip/sandisk-sansa-clip-disassembled-17.jpg , you should begin by the 2 'clips' at the top or bottom of the case 16.58.08 Join goffa [0] (n=goffa@216.220.23.105) 17.01.15 Join pixelma2 [0] (n=marianne@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 17.04.00 Join {phoenix} [0] (n=dirk@p54B46BC6.dip.t-dialin.net) 17.04.13 Join fragilematter [0] (n=fragilem@92.81.228.45) 17.05.54 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 17.07.10 Join webguest95 [0] (n=45e3aec9@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-da7f2f337e5d1df8) 17.07.14 # can somone help me please 17.07.25 # l 17.07.25 # depends on your question 17.07.33 # Well, i have a c240 17.07.37 # we can't help if you don't tell your problem 17.07.41 # and i have rockbox 17.07.55 # and when i plug in my usb to charge it, it reformats to original firmware 17.08.07 # thats normal 17.08.08 # lol 17.08.10 # it's supposed to do that 17.08.12 # reformats? 17.08.23 # then how to i change it so it doesnt go back to origianl.. 17.08.33 # it doesn't "reformat". It loads the OF which is required for both charging and file transfers at this point 17.08.45 # oh.. 17.08.49 # about the album art patch, maybe someone familar with the buffering system (Nico_P?) could explain where and how album art sizing should fit into buffering 17.08.56 # I could tell you, but you certainly don't want to do that 17.08.57 # well, in my original firmware i could see all my music 17.09.02 # but in rockbox, icant find my songs 17.09.13 Quit goffa_ (Success) 17.09.18 # saratoga: I'm a bit familiar with it 17.09.20 # so when it goes back to original, i have to reinstall rockbox? 17.09.46 # i guess the idea is to have the buffering thread resize each image 2 lines at a time as they're fetched from the disk, and then place the resized image in the audio buffer? 17.09.57 # webguest95: did you try just powering it off and on again ? 17.10.21 # um 17.10.26 # lemme try :D 17.11.03 # saratoga: album art buffering is done in buffering.c 17.11.15 # why cant i see any of my songs in rockbox? 17.11.22 # webguest95: are they in "music"? 17.11.30 # no 17.11.33 # my recordingsa re 17.11.39 # where did you put them? 17.11.43 # Did you use MTP or MSC? 17.11.48 # msc 17.12.06 # i sync'ed them w/ wmp 17.12.26 # Doesn't WMP always use MTP? 17.12.31 # iono 17.12.34 # how can i change it? 17.12.38 # i think it can sync MSC too 17.12.50 # webguest95: They're possibly in the music folder, which is hidden by the OF and not visible in rockbox with the default settings 17.12.50 # webguest95: does the sansa get a drive letter? 17.12.56 Quit [omni] (card.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 17.12.56 NSplit card.freenode.net irc.freenode.net 17.12.56 Quit ameyer (card.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 17.12.56 Quit bertrik (card.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 17.12.56 Quit Horscht (card.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 17.12.56 Quit BlakeJohnson861 (card.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 17.12.56 Quit EspeonEefi (card.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 17.12.56 Quit J-23 (card.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 17.12.56 Quit midkay (card.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 17.13.18 # how can i view themusic folder? 17.13.23 # webguest95: i have no idea where WMP puts files on your player, but if you fould out, you could browse there and play them in rockbox, alternatively, you can use the database feature in rockbox and it will find the songs for you 17.13.26 # yea it does 17.13.55 # i cant find my songs 17.13.59 # i can find my recordings 17.14.05 Quit fophillips (Remote closed the connection) 17.14.14 Join fophillips [0] (n=fophilli@unaffiliated/fophillips) 17.15.08 # webguest95: go to Settings->General Settings->File View->Show Files, and set that to All 17.15.20 # saratoga: from line buffering.c:844 17.15.43 # ty 17.16.07 NHeal card.freenode.net irc.freenode.net 17.16.07 NJoin bertrik [0] (n=bertrik@ip117-49-211-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl) 17.16.19 Join Schmogel [0] (n=Miranda@p3EE20429.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 17.17.08 # JdGordon: thanks 17.17.12 NJoin [omni] [0] (i=omni@208.166.49.118) 17.17.12 NJoin J-23 [0] (n=aldwulf@a105.net128.okay.pl) 17.17.12 NJoin midkay [0] (n=midkay@rockbox/developer/midkay) 17.17.12 NJoin EspeonEefi [0] (i=espeonee@CERULEANCITY.MIT.EDU) 17.17.12 NJoin ameyer [0] (n=ameyer17@adsl-75-57-180-230.dsl.emhril.sbcglobal.net) 17.17.12 NJoin BlakeJohnson861 [0] (n=bjohnson@c-24-118-162-123.hsd1.mn.comcast.net) 17.17.12 NJoin Horscht [0] (n=Horscht@xbmc/user/horscht) 17.17.28 Quit saratoga ("CGI:IRC") 17.18.14 Quit webguest95 ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 17.18.20 # Nic0_P: umm... I think there is a potenial deadlock in the buffering code... shouldnt mutex_unlock(&llist_mutex); happen straight after load_bitmap() (line 946) in case that fails? (where if it does it calls rm_handle() before unlocking again 17.23.14 # actually.. sholdnt that lock happen in load_bitmap() instead of the calling func? 17.23.36 # it wont really make a difference, but maybe cleaner? 17.24.06 Nick JdGordon is now known as JdGordon|zzz (n=jonno@c211-28-145-198.smelb2.vic.optusnet.com.au) 17.25.04 Nick JdGordon|zzz is now known as JdGordon (n=jonno@c211-28-145-198.smelb2.vic.optusnet.com.au) 17.25.25 Nick JdGordon is now known as JdGordon|zzz (n=jonno@rockbox/developer/JdGordon) 17.28.14 Join Strife89 [0] (n=michael@204.116.245.152) 17.29.27 Join Nibbler [0] (n=Nibbler@e181100209.adsl.alicedsl.de) 17.29.55 Join mcuelenaere [0] (n=mcuelena@rockbox/developer/mcuelenaere) 17.30.30 # is rockbox based on a linux kernel or something entirely from scratch? 17.30.42 # It's not based on anything 17.31.02 # smacnay: the latter 17.31.13 # I've started some kind of plugin api reference at http://mcuelenaere.alwaysdata.net/rockbox_api/ , anyone interested in helping me filling in the blanks? 17.31.14 # some parts have been gathered on other projects but the major part has been developped from scratch 17.31.14 # neat 17.31.28 # kudos 17.31.56 # mcuelenaere: How functional is/was isp1583.c? 17.31.58 # mcuelenaere: sure 17.32.06 # gevaerts: not really 17.32.14 # I only got some EP0 packets 17.32.16 # but that's it 17.32.20 # mcuelenaere: ok. Then I didn't break it last night :) 17.32.32 # :) 17.33.06 # mcuelenaere: the endpoint number passed through the varius usb_drv_*() functions now is the full endpoint number, including the direction bit 17.33.59 # ok 17.34.21 # I'll keep that in mind when I'll adapt the Ingenic USB driver 17.35.48 Join Platyna [0] (i=platyna@platinum.edu.pl) 17.35.53 # Hi. 17.36.02 # i am trying to install rockbox on ipod video. 17.36.21 # I have two partitions on the ipod's disk, which one I am supposed to chose? 17.36.52 # Platyna: you mean two data partitions? 17.37.41 # I don't know which one is for what. 17.37.48 # I do record mp3s on the second one. 17.37.52 # sda2. 17.38.00 # But there is also sda1 one. 17.39.20 # sda1 is the firmware partition. 17.39.28 # Where do you have to choose? 17.39.41 # Well my ipod is not autodetected. 17.39.55 # I chosen the sda1, but it says my configuration is invalid. 17.40.50 # Are you running with root rights? 17.40.56 # Nope. 17.41.10 # Try that. Installation on an ipod usually needs them 17.41.34 # Ok. 17.41.41 # I used kdesu and still no luck. 17.41.57 # is find_albumart really exported to the plugin api? That doesn't really make sense to me. It's a special case of search_albumart_files, depending on wps data 17.42.22 # Can I paste three lines/ 17.42.23 # ? 17.42.46 # yes it's short enough 17.43.38 # platyna 12702 0.2 1.4 25848 14160 pts/2 S+ 17:41 0:00 kdesu ./rbutilqt 17.43.41 # platyna 12704 0.0 0.3 17064 3384 ? S 17:41 0:00 /usr/bin/kdesud 17.43.44 # root 12710 0.0 0.0 1916 652 pts/6 Ss+ 17:41 0:00 /usr/bin/kdesu_stub 17.43.47 # root 12713 0.6 1.4 63680 14812 ? Ssl 17:41 0:00 ./rbutilqt 17.43.48 # now it has the root priviledge. 17.43.55 # And still not detects the ipod. 17.43.55 Quit Strife89 ("Leaving") 17.44.01 # OK. Are you sure it's an ipod video though? 17.44.11 # And I see the ipod has "do not disconnect" info. 17.44.13 # Yes. 17.44.17 # iPod 60 GB. 17.44.20 # 4 generation. 17.45.01 # Erm sorry 5 gen. 17.45.03 # One momento. 17.45.20 # http://www.dealtime.co.uk/xPO-Apple-iPod-Black-60-GB-MA147LL-A 17.45.26 # This one, 17.45.50 # Ok. now it detects it. 17.45.52 # But... 17.45.53 # That's a video, yes. 17.45.56 # It detects it wrong. 17.46.00 # This is not 30 gb one. 17.46.03 # It is 60. 17.46.20 # maybe the disk was changed ? 17.46.25 # Those are impossible to distinguish over USB 17.46.26 # Nope. :) 17.46.39 # Ok, so which partition I should choose? 17.46.40 # The build for the 30 runs on both 17.46.53 # sda1 or sda2 please? 17.46.55 # Whatever is detected... 17.46.55 # :) 17.47.04 # Nothing is detected. 17.47.16 # I mean, the partition path box is empty. 17.47.42 # Device path or mountpoint? 17.48.10 # It needs the directory where /dev/sd*2 is currently mounted 17.48.23 # 'select your device on the file system" one. 17.48.53 # OK. 17.48.58 # So /mnt/ipod then. 17.49.05 # yes 17.50.06 # ok, so I should chose "complete instalation" right? 17.50.36 # That should work, yes 17.50.58 # I got some warning about latest built that will be installed not the lates version. 17.51.39 # Yes. if you want 3.0 you need to go through the separate steps in the Installation tab. Right now however the current build seems to work well 17.52.13 # * gevaerts thinks that this should be considered a bug 17.53.13 Join LambdaCalculus37 [0] (n=LambdaCa@rrcs-24-103-23-92.nyc.biz.rr.com) 17.53.22 Join Bitmouse [0] (n=full@72.16.200.137) 17.57.12 # Wondering if mpeg-3 and mpeg-4 along with the various codecs (divx, xvid) etc. is a technical possiblity for future releases of MPEGPlayer 17.59.42 # I don't see why not 18.01.36 # Bitmouse: it just takes someone to code it, but keep in mind that some devices are not capable of playing that 18.04.52 Join salty-horse [0] (n=ori@pdpc/supporter/active/salty-horse) 18.04.58 # gevaerts: OK, and it is normal that these ipod files remains? 18.05.11 # What ipod files? 18.05.29 Join barrywardell [0] (n=barrywar@79.97.87.130) 18.06.26 Quit Lear ("ChatZilla 0.9.83 [Firefox 3.0.3/2008092417]") 18.06.38 # I was wondering if it would be too slow to be useful on most devices, it would be nice to have an app or a version of rockbox etc that was very adept at playing any video / music file well, some thing akin to put the file on the device, watch it play 18.06.44 # at reasonable fps 18.06.54 # no re-encoding necessary 18.07.32 # You'll want a dual-core 3GHz based player then 18.09.16 # lol 18.09.35 # RandalSchwartz: taking the chance to tell that I really like the fact that you talk to guys from the project directly. There are quite a number of articles about Rockbox with a lot of wrong information because people didn't bother contacting us and did a bad job in research. So thanks, I really enjoyed the show. :) 18.10.13 # I guess so, excluding Hi-Def blu-ray like files, would you need a dual-core etc, system to do what I'm talking about? 18.10.57 Join mc2739 [0] (n=mc2739@cpe-67-10-238-175.satx.res.rr.com) 18.11.58 # drawmodes should be in an enum imho 18.11.59 # * gevaerts agrees with pixelma2 18.12.06 # gevaerts will agree :p 18.13.22 Join jhulst [0] (n=jhulst@unaffiliated/jhulst) 18.13.46 # Bitmouse: some players like the gigabeat S may be capable of doing what you want, but I'm not sure. Audio is easy (unless you like -c5000 APE files), but decoding modern video streams requires a lot of CPU 18.14.04 # gevaerts: Not? Look at lcd.h line 199 18.15.01 # kugel: that's not too bad. I personally would make that an enum, but at least there are #defines there :) 18.15.50 # I have a free commit count++ for the first who yells "me" 18.16.12 # ME! :) 18.16.25 # hi. trying to play the following file in rockbox freezes the software for several seconds and refuses to play. can anyone confirm? http://itc.conversationsnetwork.org/audio/download/ITC.SO-Episode19-2008.08.26.mp3 18.16.33 Quit {phoenix} (Remote closed the connection) 18.16.46 # LambdaCalculus37: Go to lcd.h line 199, and change the drawmodes #defines to an enum 18.17.00 Quit freqmod_qu (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 18.17.18 # hey, that's not a commit count :) 18.17.28 # kugel: Full path? 18.17.40 # and the commit of course (better salty-horse?) 18.18.02 # firmware/export/lcd.h 18.18.08 # oh... you forgot the parens 18.18.50 # kugel: I'll give it a shot. :) 18.19.14 # salty-horse: which player are you using? Do I undrestand correctly that it goes wrong right at the start? 18.19.25 # LambdaCalculus37: Mostly a style fix, but generally enums > #define. But I assume you know that, since I gave you the cool link some days ago :) 18.19.56 # kugel: firmware/export/lcd.h ends at Line 31. 18.20.15 Quit kkurbjun ("leaving") 18.20.19 Join kkurbjun [0] (i=ksec@silenceisdefeat.org) 18.20.24 # I'm on a sansa e280. it goes wrong right at the start, yes. I have a problem with playback in the simulator, but I'm sort of seeing something sort of similar there too 18.20.27 # are you sure about that? 18.20.54 # salty-horse: which revision are you using? 18.20.58 # LambdaCalculus37: http://svn.rockbox.org/viewvc.cgi/trunk/firmware/export/lcd.h?revision=17847&view=markup 18.21.01 Join MethoS-- [0] (n=clemens@pD955C5C5.dip.t-dialin.net) 18.21.15 # * gevaerts goes to get his c250. That's the closest to the e280 he has 18.21.32 # salty-horse: I have an e200, maybe I can help you 18.21.36 Quit kkurbjun (Client Quit) 18.21.38 # gevaerts, r18672 - compiled myself 18.21.40 Join kkurbjun [0] (i=ksec@silenceisdefeat.org) 18.22.27 # kugel, I think it's a meta data problem. could be? playing something before it in the playlist also causes the same momentary freeze 18.23.32 Join Xerion [0] (n=xerion@cp198589-d.landg1.lb.home.nl) 18.23.57 # kugel: Silly me... I was looking at firmware/export/led.h :P 18.24.15 # * LambdaCalculus37 thinks that he should go to the eye doctor 18.24.28 # LambdaCalculus37: heh 18.24.52 Quit robin0800 (Remote closed the connection) 18.25.03 # salty-horse: Without testing, have you checked the tags? Rockbox can behave unexpected when the tags are in a wrong format (e.g. APE tags on mp3) 18.25.20 # which would indeed be a metadata problem 18.25.26 # It doesn't play on c200 18.25.30 # id3tool says "no tags" 18.25.34 # oops 18.25.42 # it says "No ID3 Tag" 18.25.57 # id3v2 shows normal looking tags 18.25.58 # kugel: In Aquamacs, line 199 is this: "#define DRMODE_COMPLEMENT 0" 18.26.13 # yea 18.27.01 # gevaerts, I'll have to install that. sec 18.28.26 # OK. I have installed and started rockbox but I have no idea what to do next. I have just the settings menu... 18.28.56 Join wpyh [0] (n=william@123.151.132.200) 18.29.13 # gevaerts: could that need other keywords except enum? not that it creates masses of reds 18.29.41 # How do I just play files? 18.29.42 # :( 18.29.51 # gevaerts, any idea what's causing the problem? 18.30.11 # Now I have entred the rockbox info and can't exit it. 18.30.16 # LambdaCalculus37: it should look like this:http://pastebin.com/m30950c83 18.30.22 # It does not react on menu key. 18.30.26 # http://pastebin.com/m30950c83 (for the sake of clickability) 18.30.33 # * gevaerts points Platyna towards our wonderful manual 18.31.06 # salty-horse: again, make sure it's *only* id3 tags 18.31.11 # I have it opened, and so what. 18.31.11 # ;S 18.31.15 # salty-horse: it plays on F60 18.31.22 Quit Nic0_P (Remote closed the connection) 18.31.27 # It shows that menu button goes to menu and it doesn't. 18.31.31 # now that's weird 18.32.16 # kugel, I don't have enough experience with audio files metadata. how can I make sure? "strings" doesn't show any other tags :) 18.32.30 # It does seem to need lots of time to parse though 18.32.34 # kugel: I'll add in your code now. 18.32.36 # salty-horse: What OS are you running? 18.32.43 # linux, ubuntu 18.32.53 # Damn it. :( 18.33.00 # It doesn't work that rockbox thing. 18.33.05 Quit jhulst (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 18.33.20 # gevaerts, you can compare with the previous episode, which works fine: http://itc.conversationsnetwork.org/audio/download/ITC.SO-Episode18-2008.08.19.mp3 18.33.25 # hm, MP3tag (run under wine) can remove all tags (e.g. APEv2 ones), preserve id3v2 tags 18.33.36 # Platyna: you get out of rockbox-info by pressing left 18.34.02 # rotfl. :> More logic is to get to menu when presing menu. :> 18.34.07 # that should clean them up 18.34.08 # Is it? 18.34.28 # Ok, so how do I play the music files now? 18.34.34 # thanks gevaerts 18.34.34 Quit MethoS- (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 18.34.37 # Because I an quite tired with settings. 18.34.37 # :> 18.34.40 # browse for them and hit select 18.35.29 # salty-horse: I don't know much about mp3 playback. Can you submit a bug report? 18.35.41 # gevaerts, sure, once I debug this 18.35.45 # kugel, I'll use http://easytag.sourceforge.net/ 18.36.05 # salty-horse: that could work too, but I'n not sure 18.36.18 # I've used it once and didn't like it 18.36.23 Join Seed [0] (n=ben@bzq-84-108-232-45.cablep.bezeqint.net) 18.36.28 # ok 18.36.35 # I'll experiment :) 18.37.14 # kugel: So what should I describe the commit as? (after I make sure it builds clean) 18.37.46 # It is evil, on the default firmware the menu button was canceling the operation. 18.37.47 # LambdaCalculus37: don't forget to blame kugel in the message, in case somebody dislikes it 18.37.52 # And now i have no idea how to use it. 18.37.58 # gevaerts: :) 18.38.00 # something with code police. I know that there's a static and const code police, I haven't heard of an enum police yet 18.38.15 # Platyna: I don't know if you're aware of it, but rockbox is not meant to be an ipod firmware clone 18.38.26 Join Bitmous1 [0] (n=full@72.16.200.137) 18.38.31 # or just forget it as fast as possible if I get blamed :P 18.38.55 # kugel: static and const have real effects on generated code :) 18.39.02 Quit Bitmouse (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 18.39.08 # oh yea, I know 18.39.33 Join {phoenix} [0] (n=dirk@p54B46BC6.dip.t-dialin.net) 18.39.56 # gevaerts: OK, but there should be one button to cancel an operation, for example to go back from players to file list. :S 18.40.48 # Platyna: to cancel, you generally hit the |<< button, and the down button to get to the main menu straight away 18.40.50 # Platyna: it sounds like a look at the manual would do you a bit of good... 18.40.54 # there is. And we also have a fine manual... 18.41.10 # Platyna: you have an e200, or am I wrong? 18.41.12 Join krazykit [0] (n=kkit@host-69-145-35-234.static.bresnan.net) 18.41.28 # scorche: I have the manual opened, but well. I thought i will not have to learn by heart all of combinations of keys. :P 18.41.41 # kugel: iPod video 60. :> 18.41.47 # hmm 18.41.50 # Platyna: reading the manual does a bit better than having it open ;) 18.41.52 # then scratch that 18.41.57 # and read the manual :) 18.42.00 # scorche: I am reading it. Bah. :> 18.42.19 # I just thought the usual operations will be more intuition based. ;p 18.42.40 # * gevaerts thinks that the people who spent hours or days on the manual do deserve a bit more respect than that 18.43.03 # * pixelma2 agrees with gevaerts :) 18.43.33 # Platyna: if using a button labelled "menu" to go back a level instead of going to some sort of menu is intuitive to you, then no, we dont have that sort of intuitiveness ;) 18.43.48 # kugel: http://pastebin.com/d5535db93 18.44.23 Join Thundercloud [0] (n=thunderc@cpc1-hem18-0-0-cust660.lutn.cable.ntl.com) 18.44.38 # Platyna: it is more intuitive for some people, it's also a case of what you are used to. I guess the first time you had to get used to the Apple firmware too when using the Ipod the first time 18.44.41 Quit {phoenix} (Remote closed the connection) 18.44.56 # I hope so I will get used to it. 18.45.43 Quit ender` (" Whenever you cut your fingernails, you will find a need for them an hour later.") 18.50.13 Join ender` [0] (i=krneki@foo.eternallybored.org) 18.51.01 # LambdaCalculus37: wait a minute 18.51.14 # I review my test and figured the new checksum in ClipV2 firmware 18.51.19 # gevaerts: did you take a look at my patch yesterday? 18.51.33 # it's an addition checksum of the header block (simple) 18.51.39 Quit Zarggg (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 18.52.16 # markun: I had an extremely quick look at it, yes. 18.52.33 Join Zarggg [0] (n=zarggg@65-78-69-194.c3-0.eas-ubr6.atw-eas.pa.cable.rcn.com) 18.52.46 # I hoped it would have turned the screen white. What do you think we're doing wrong? 18.53.04 # LambdaCalculus37: which target? 18.53.10 # it builds fine for me 18.53.22 # Does the SPI writing work at all? I remember we got an unexpected value when we read one of the registers. 18.53.39 # I have no proof of it working, no 18.54.02 # kugel: Building for Gigabeat F/X. 18.54.42 # still fine 18.54.43 # kugel: Here's what I have: http://pastebin.com/d369c8ba3 18.55.10 # LambdaCalculus37: apparently the patch was malformed 18.55.53 # apparently pastebin.com sucks and removes @@ from the paste 18.56.33 # LambdaCalculus37: now with pastebin.ca http://pastebin.ca/1219073 18.57.22 # revert and apply the pastebin.ca patch 18.57.33 # * kugel 'll never use pastebin.com again 18.59.09 Nick fxb is now known as fxb__ (n=felixbru@h1252615.stratoserver.net) 19.01.24 # kugel: Let me do it now. 19.02.04 # kugel, I have a problem with wine ATM. the file doesn't have an ape tag -- anything else I should look for? other types of tag standards? 19.02.12 Join Darksair [0] (n=user@221.221.156.151) 19.02.30 Quit ameyer (Remote closed the connection) 19.03.16 # markun: maybe you could double-check that I implemented spi_set_reg() correctly. 19.03.44 # kugel: The patch was rejected. 19.04.08 # * LambdaCalculus37 has to go now, though 19.04.18 # LambdaCalculus37: did you revert? 19.04.20 # kugel: Let's do a little more later on, okay? 19.04.23 # I did revert. 19.04.25 # a 'patchbin' website would be useful, on paste.ubuntu.com I have no problems with patches 19.04.55 # LambdaCalculus37: How can it be rejected then? 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Keep me up to date. 19.08.07 # sure.. 19.08.18 # See ya later! 19.08.19 Quit LambdaCalculus37 ("Ka-chunka") 19.08.30 # yup! 19.08.52 # funman: mkamsboot made it into rbutil? yay! 19.09.05 # fragilematter: yep ;) 19.09.15 # kugel, got a moment to assist me? :) 19.09.23 # salty-horse: why not? 19.09.29 # I sent you the code by mail (no patch since I had put mkamsboot in rbutil/ and didn't sync with today's commit) 19.10.19 # oh, I didn't had the chance to test that, with the camera problems & stuff 19.10.21 Quit Thundercloud (Remote closed the connection) 19.10.27 # do you want me to test it now? 19.10.31 # hum the mail couldn't be delivered 19.11.25 # "The email account that you tried to reach doesn't exist", I used your jabber address 19.11.42 # maybe you misspelled something 19.11.46 # fragilematter: no, no hurry 19.11.56 # well no I double checked 19.12.57 # yes I did mispell, sorry, sending again 19.12.58 # kugel, I looked for ape tags in the file (using the mutagen python lib) - it has none. easytag reports that apparently a picture is present in the metadata, but it's missing. the other file that *does* work also has that missing picture, so that's not the cause of the error 19.14.14 Join {phoenix} [0] (n=dirk@p54B46BC6.dip.t-dialin.net) 19.14.23 # salty-horse: if possible, rewrite the tags, forcing 1 version (e.g. id3v2.3) 19.14.33 # using unicode 19.14.54 # gevaerts: yes, maybe later 19.15.05 # No hurry :) 19.17.19 # funman: do I need to compile rbutil or I just have to compile mkamsboot and run it? 19.19.15 # funman: found that out myself 19.20.35 # I had a quick look at rbutilqt but I'm not sure how it uses other tools - we can report that when we have a real rockbox running 19.21.53 # well, compiling that is not possible for me - I have no space left on / to squeeze the qt libs 19.22.58 # just run make in mkamsboot2/ 19.23.37 # so, I should make OF=e200pF.bin BL=rockbox.bin MODEL=any of those since I don't see any specific code in the makefile 19.23.45 Join Thundercloud [0] (n=thunderc@cpc1-hem18-0-0-cust660.lutn.cable.ntl.com) 19.24.15 # or no MODEL at all 19.24.20 # the code is in the dualboot 19.24.26 # grep E200 * 19.25.38 # what you give as MODEL is defined when building sansav2_dualboot.S with gcc 19.26.24 # made, going to flash it 19.29.06 # funman: on normal startup it does squat 19.29.15 # squat? 19.29.16 # on down+power it starts up normally 19.29.25 # squat = nothing... 19.29.47 # just... sits there, leds off & nothing moving 19.29.49 # damn, that means my rockbox is broken, but the patcher is correct 19.29.53 # Thanks for testing 19.30.05 # kugel, "id3v2 -C" that converts id3v1 tags to id3v2 seems to have fixed this. should I file a bug? 19.30.06 # you welcome :) 19.30.12 # at least I can flash safely and debug that 19.30.31 # :) 19.31.51 # salty-horse: You could. Unexpected behavior is on faulty tags is known though. And ID3v2 is generally recommended anyway. 19.32.20 # ah of course I define the led pin as input and not output 19.32.59 # ;)) 19.33.22 # kugel, still, it's better to work around "bad" files 19.36.27 # btw, the floss weekly interview mentioned tips on video conversion in the manual, but I can't find it 19.37.29 # salty-horse: Does the manual link to the PluginMpegplayer wiki page? There are definitely tips there. 19.39.10 # linuxstb, oh it does link. 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I'm trying to analyze the problem with the file, and I have a question 20.17.50 Join allele [0] (n=allele@CPE-69-23-137-242.wi.res.rr.com) 20.18.34 # once the toolchain is compiled in one form of linux can't I just copy the directory and put it in another distro (assuming it has devel tools) 20.19.25 # allele: sure, assuming they're not too different 20.19.30 # allele: why not just run rockboxdev.sh on that other system? 20.19.42 # * RandalSchwartz listens to the floss program 20.19.47 # I sound like I'm in a cave again 20.19.57 # RandalSchwartz: aren't you? B) 20.20.04 # could be 20.20.14 # hey Bagder - you're the curl guy, right? 20.20.18 # * gevaerts listens to another floss program :) 20.20.23 # RandalSchwartz: that's me, yes 20.20.35 # we should get you on to talk about curl sometimes 20.21.02 # sure, put me somewhere in that looong list of yours! 20.21.10 # cause I wanted to make a distro of puppy, but for some reason it takes an incredible amount of time to compile on that system, but uses a lot less space 20.21.27 # the list is long from suggestions 20.21.34 # but short on actual people to contact. :) 20.21.37 # ah 20.21.37 # *cough*scummvm*cough* 20.21.59 # and I follow the path of least resistance 20.22.07 # salty-horse: what are you going on about?...if you have a question, just ask 20.22.10 # haha, sounds like a wise approach 20.22.31 # all: if I want to change the behaviour of track playback, shuffle and repeat, where should I look? /firmware, or /apps? 20.22.44 Quit Nibbler (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 20.22.55 Quit DataGhost (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 20.23.34 # wpyh: Generally in apps 20.23.39 Join Nibbler [0] (n=Nibbler@e181100209.adsl.alicedsl.de) 20.23.44 # linuxstb: ok, thanks 20.24.45 Quit MethoS-- (Remote closed the connection) 20.25.49 # scorche|sh, did you follow my problem above? I have a file that won't work, and it's because of the metadata. I'm not sure why, though. I'd like to gather more info before filing a bug. I edited the file with "id3v2 -C" which converts id3v1 tags to id3v2 tags. the file works now, but I'm having a hard time isolating the changes 20.26.02 Quit stoffel_ (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 20.28.22 Quit Nibbler (Client Quit) 20.28.24 # * gevaerts thinks that floss sounds better in ogg than in mp3 :) 20.29.27 Join Arelis [0] (n=arelis@195-241-90-109.ip.telfort.nl) 20.29.27 # maybe we should consider updating /topic 20.29.31 # * fragilematter subscribes to that line of thinking 20.29.40 Join bluebrother [0] (n=dom@rockbox/staff/bluebrother) 20.29.44 # gevaerts, that's the irony of twit. the "this week in tech" show is available in various formats, but floss weekly only in mp3 20.29.45 # How do i get RockBox onto my iRiver E100 mp3-playwer? 20.29.47 # player* 20.30.00 # Arelis: you don't. Unless you port it ... 20.30.04 # Arelis: you get the porting work started! 20.30.20 # Sorry, i'm not a developer. 20.30.31 # there's no e100 port in progress yet 20.30.36 # Hey, is there anyway to get rockbox to read the music in an intelligible fashion off of my ipod music folders 20.31.28 # salty-horse: it _is_ available in ogg. They just don't like to admit it ;) 20.31.32 # use the database 20.31.33 # I'm trying to simplify the repeat and shuffle function. I will remove the "Repeat: Shuffle" option, and always reshuffle the tracks if shuffle==yes and repeat==all. Is this a good idea, devs? 20.31.37 # scorche|sh, never mind. I'll just file a bug with a few points left to research. 20.31.55 # gevaerts, where? :) 20.31.58 # bluebrother: were you talking to me? 20.32.07 # yes 20.32.09 # wpyh: I would agree to that 20.32.10 # salty-horse: get the mp3 link, and replace mp3 by ogg 20.32.14 # Hurray :D 20.33.33 # yeah, been a while since I used rock box, should probably use before I ask ; ) 20.33.49 # gevaerts, hehe... though I'd prefer a feed for that (without me manually writing wrappers) 20.34.05 # is there anything known yet about the memory layout of sansa v2s? 20.34.06 # salty-horse: complain to RandalSchwartz then :) 20.34.16 # about what? 20.34.36 # there being ogg versions of the podcast, but no official RSS feed for them 20.34.41 # Oh. 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appears to be able to compile rockbox :D 21.02.07 # RandalSchwartz: thanks for the feed, it saves me of hacking something to get the oggs 21.02.46 Quit gevaerts (Nick collision from services.) 21.02.55 Join gevaerts [0] (n=fg@rockbox/developer/gevaerts) 21.04.54 # yeah - but it took me all of five minutes to mash up with yahoo pipes 21.05.06 # if you haven't seen yahoo pipes to create custom rss feeds yet, you should look into it. 21.05.37 # * fragilematter tries to stay away from yahoo - their IM service is enough of a headache 21.05.58 # bertrik: I'm not sure what you're asking (about the V2s)... What do you mean by "memory"? RAM or the flash disk? 21.06.02 # well - there are definitely cool and clumsy parts of yahoo 21.06.10 # pipes is very cool 21.06.40 # xfruits.com does some pipe-ish stuff with feeds... and probably more 21.06.41 # linuxstb, both, I assume there's a 32-bit address space and I wonder what is mapped where 21.06.59 # fragilematter, RandalSchwartz please try to stay on-topic 21.07.06 Join Bitmouse [0] (n=full@72.16.200.137) 21.07.44 # krazykit: sorry, we got carryed away. RandalSchwartz we should move this to #rockbox-community 21.07.48 # bertrik: The AS3525 datasheet has a memory map - it's all pretty standard (either ROM or RAM can be configured to be at 0x0, and memory mapped registers at random other address) 21.08.49 # * gevaerts doesn't like the idea of registers being at random addresses 21.08.58 Quit PaulJam (".") 21.09.51 # reading apps/playlist.c makes my head numb 21.10.18 Join super [0] (i=super@c80-217-101-37.bredband.comhem.se) 21.10.36 Quit kugel (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 21.13.52 Quit Bitmouse ("Leaving.") 21.16.39 Quit Thundercloud (Remote closed the connection) 21.17.14 Quit avis ("taktaktaktakkkk") 21.18.36 Part J-23 21.18.37 Join Thundercloud [0] (n=thunderc@cpc1-hem18-0-0-cust660.lutn.cable.ntl.com) 21.19.23 # ok I see. I'm also wondering where the data from the firmware image ends up, like where it is written on the external flash and at what address does it get executed 21.21.21 Quit allele ("Java user signed off") 21.21.28 Part salty-horse ("Leaving") 21.22.52 # What other custom firmware is there for mp3 players than RockBox? 21.26.04 Join Tetracomm [0] (n=nicholas@72.252.29.2) 21.26.06 # Hello. 21.27.00 # I have a Creative Zen and would GREATLY appreciate something like Rockbox or something else like it for my Zen, does Rockbox support it? 21.27.55 # Tetracomm, the supported targets are on the front page 21.28.09 # the New Ports forum does have a thread about a port effort on the Zen. 21.29.18 # I wonder when it will succeed. 21.30.23 # I really want to play OGG on it. 21.30.34 Join ajonat [0] (n=ajonat@190.48.116.103) 21.31.42 Join {phoenix} [0] (n=dirk@p54B46BC6.dip.t-dialin.net) 21.32.04 Quit perrikwp ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") 21.35.35 # Could you link me to that? 21.37.38 # Tetracomm: http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=13462.0 21.37.46 # Thank you. :) 21.40.26 Join coatman [0] (n=coatman@r01jvgmb7.device.mst.edu) 21.46.17 # Is there anything I can do to help them port it? 21.49.00 # sure, read the thead to see what still needs to be done 21.49.01 Quit barrywardell () 21.50.29 Join barrywardell [0] (n=barrywar@79.97.87.130) 21.51.43 # See, Sigmatel says that the processor supports OGG Vorbis, but the firmware doesn't 21.51.44 # http://www.sigmatel.com/products/portable/audio/stmp3700.aspx#fragment-14 21.52.12 # bertrik: It seems that part of the NAND flash disk is reserved for the firmware, and this isn't made visible via USB. There is an AMS bootloader in the 128KB of internal ROM on AS3525, and this loads the main firmware block from the NAND disk to address 0x0 in RAM and executes it. 21.54.03 # linuxstb, very clear, thanks! 21.54.16 # Tetracomm: "supports xxx" in SoC-marketing-speak means "is powerful enough for xxx" 21.54.27 # Yes. 21.54.34 Join druidu [0] (n=d5a4e705@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-cbe2d5d73186a1df) 21.54.39 # I know. 21.56.29 # hello there! 21.57.07 Quit Siku () 21.57.32 # Hello. 21.58.03 Quit barrywardell () 21.58.30 # I'm trying to make tcctool work for my iRiver X20 21.58.35 # anybody I can talk to about that? 21.58.43 Quit Acksaw (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 21.59.11 Join kugel [0] (n=chatzill@unaffiliated/kugel) 22.00.53 # So they used the linux kernel that Sigmatel provided for the Creative Zen? 22.01.22 # "they"? 22.01.47 # druidu: Seen this wiki page? http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IriverX20Port 22.02.01 # yeah 22.02.05 # see private 22.02.13 Join MethoS- [0] (n=clemens@host-091-096-215-106.ewe-ip-backbone.de) 22.02.20 # druidu: Best to keep this in #rockbox - so others can help if they can. 22.02.25 # ok, sorry 22.02.25 # so 22.02.41 # I'm trying to make tcctool work for iRiver X20 22.02.46 Join Acksaw [0] (n=omgwtfbb@cpc2-stok5-0-0-cust754.bagu.cable.ntl.com) 22.02.46 # I did get it to upload the firmware to the device but it won't boot... I believe the sdcfg value I tried is wrong, how do I determine that? 22.02.58 Quit krazykit ("Connection reset by beer") 22.03.00 # What value did you try - the same as the D2? 22.03.07 # I tried the one from Samsung YP-P2 22.03.45 # someone said somewhere that he managed to use an YP-P2 firmware on an iRiver X20 if I remember corectly, so I figured it should work 22.04.33 # Tetracomm: who used linux, and how is that related to rockbox? 22.04.39 # What firmware file did you upload? It needs to be a raw binary image - i.e. not encrypted or with any extra header. 22.05.25 # X20.hex 22.05.26 # I was wondering if the Rockbox kernel being used for the Creative Zen was the one that Sigmatel provided? 22.05.44 # I already flash it with another tool -- sendfirm.exe 22.05.48 # druidu: Yes, but what does that look like? iriver .hex files are normally encrypted.... 22.05.48 # Tetracomm: rockbox is not based on linux 22.05.49 # and it still boots, so it should be ok 22.06.11 # Ver:10RI in the header 22.06.24 # Is sendfirm a utility that updates firmware in MTP mode? 22.06.26 # it starts with the jump, then 0601FFFF 22.06.51 # Oh. 22.06.52 # :( 22.07.02 # yep, from rockbox/utils/mtp/ 22.07.16 # druidu: Do you have a link to that .hex file? 22.07.22 # wait 22.08.23 # see link in priv) 22.08.44 Join jeffdameth [0] (n=jeff@dyndsl-091-096-045-051.ewe-ip-backbone.de) 22.08.50 # it's from X20_FRE_UM_OK.ZIP 22.09.38 # anyway, I was wondering how I could determine de sdcfg value... is it in the firmware somewhere? 22.09.54 Quit jeffdameth1 (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 22.11.34 # anyway: once you boot in usb mode it doesn't matter the state of the "jumpers" -- usb/nand, nand etc, right? 22.14.10 # I wouldn't think so - once it's entered usb boot mode, I would expect it to stay there. 22.15.07 # I understand the sdcfg value should be sniffed from usb while using a recovery tool 22.16.22 # I tried the firmware updater utility, using the recovery option -- which also formats the drive -- but I don't think it enters usb boot mode, so would the sdcfg be in the dump? 22.16.53 # What type of information do you need on the Creative Zen? I will look for it... 22.21.00 # druidu: If the recovery tool doesn't use usb mode, then I doubt the sdcfg value will be anywhere. It may be possible to find it in a disassembly of the firmware - it's written to address 0xf0000000 22.22.07 # I dissassembled the firmware, it starts with the jump to 0x20000000 22.22.44 # so, is there a section table or something, how do I know which address is 0xf0000000, I just look for a mov to that target ? 22.24.23 Join nuonguy [0] (n=john@c-71-198-1-139.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) 22.25.33 Quit mcuelenaere () 22.32.44 Join mcuelenaere [0] (n=mcuelena@rockbox/developer/mcuelenaere) 22.37.51 # once I find the correct value and use tcctool to upload the firmware, it should boot instantly after I get "Patching application uploaded succesfully!" ? 22.37.56 Join webguest39 [0] (n=c77ebdec@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-585942e5325e16a0) 22.39.58 Quit ompaul (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 22.41.27 Quit webguest39 (Client Quit) 22.43.01 # druidu: Yes. 22.45.26 Join webguest29 [0] (n=c77ebdec@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-771f6fc49615d50f) 22.46.35 # What has changed in 3.0? 22.46.43 # I don't See much. 22.47.04 # since when? 22.47.27 Quit fragilematter ("time to get some sleep in gmt+3 land") 22.48.12 # Bagder: Can you create a "since 3.0" svn log? 22.48.13 # webguest29, see http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/ReleaseNotes30 to get an idea 22.48.28 # linuxstb: ah, good idea! 22.49.19 Quit MethoS- (Remote closed the connection) 22.50.01 # I'll get rid of the since 2.5 then I think 22.51.59 # thanks 22.53.51 Join ompaul [0] (n=ompaul@gnewsense/friend/ompaul) 22.53.52 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 22.57.56 # http://www.rockbox.org/since30.html 22.58.02 # Some of my WPS files don't work. When i choose it the loading screen appears for about half a secon, and then when you play a song, it goes back to the original wps. 22.58.03 # just wrong title on the page still 23.05.35 # webguest29: Yes, there were various changes to the WPS syntax over the last year, so many older themes are broken. 23.08.35 # linuxstb: I now have somewhat detailed libdemac test results (entropy decoding / filters / predictor / decorrelation) 23.08.45 Quit lasser ("ChatZilla 0.9.83 [Firefox 2.0.0.16/2008070200]") 23.09.39 # OK. I have only found 2 that worked! 23.09.58 # In its current state, even a core split wouldn't help on PP5002, and just about on PP502x 23.10.15 # Do you know when someone will come up with jpg album art support? 23.10.31 # The entropy decoder is the slowest part of it, even slower than the -c2000 filter 23.11.21 Quit aindilis` (Read error: 101 (Network is unreachable)) 23.13.30 # webguest29: try the manual 23.13.41 # ah 23.13.46 # sorry, didn't see the jpg 23.14.11 Join synergist [0] (i=christop@cant.be-arsed.co.uk) 23.14.18 # I'm not aware of anyone working on that 23.15.19 # webguest29: The Rockbox wiki has lots of working themes - see the WpsGallery page 23.15.24 Join HBK [0] (i=hbk@pool-71-96-74-73.dfw.dsl-w.verizon.net) 23.16.21 # * bertrik does some current measurements on his sansa clip 23.17.40 # amiconn: Yes I think we found that last time we were testing. 23.17.45 # about 29 mA when paused, 36 mA when playing, 40 mA when in the main menu 23.18.00 # (current measured through USB cable) 23.18.23 # How does that compare with the PP devices? 23.18.40 # linuxstb: Here are the details: http://www.jens-arnold.net/Rockbox/APE%20Performance.ods (openoffice required) 23.19.18 # (no entropy/predictor details for gigabeat F) 23.19.45 # about the same I think 23.21.57 # my sansa c240 gets 16 hours out of a 540 mAh battery, or about 34 mA. I'm not sure if we can compare battery current with USB cable current though 23.23.15 # Current gets lower with higher input voltage when switching regulators are involved 23.27.41 # amiconn: One thing that could be done with the entropy decoder is to go back to the original APE source, and see if that decoder is any faster - the decoder I used in demac was taken from somewhere else. But I never spent enough time trying to understand the maths involved to try and optimise it. 23.29.15 Join freqmod_qu [0] (n=quassel@iskrembilen.com) 23.31.48 Quit HBK- (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 23.32.43 # linuxstb: Is there a reason why you used a different one? 23.33.00 # * amiconn also wonders about the ffmpeg range decoder 23.33.29 Quit webguest29 ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 23.35.54 Join allele [0] (n=allele@CPE-69-23-137-242.wi.res.rr.com) 23.36.38 # where would I look to remove the need for the manual folder when compiling rockbox? 23.38.00 # why is that needed? 23.38.29 # faster compile 23.39.02 # how? 23.39.31 # seems to take time to go through all the manual files when I'm compiling 23.39.58 # plus that much less diskspace 23.40.47 # a regular build does nothing with the manual dir or files 23.41.01 # so you can remove the dir if you want to 23.41.02 # so I can go ahead and delet it? 23.41.07 # o ok thanks :D 23.41.11 # but it would speed up anything 23.41.14 # won't 23.41.49 # ah, well 7 less megs anyway I guess 23.42.13 # perhaps, but you'll get them back at next 'svn up' ... 23.42.59 # no matter, I have a backup of the original source in case of catastrophic events 23.43.10 Join Grundybear [0] (i=f-u@ACC0C880.ipt.aol.com) 23.43.49 # what's the point in gaining 7MB on a PC these days? 23.44.19 # an extra mp3 or two 23.44.45 # on a _PC_? 23.44.59 # I've always been compelled to take up the least amount of memory (began my computer life on a 500 mb harddrive) 23.45.10 # you most likely will get issues even with compiling if that low on disc space 23.45.28 # my first computer had 50mb, i remember installing doom and it taking up half the hard drive space 23.45.35 # * bluebrother started with even less 23.46.41 # well then you should share my compulsion 23.46.43 # hey if I'm going to use recovery mode to overwrite/fix the sandisk firmware on my sansa, how do i know which .mi4 to use? 23.47.44 # allele: no, especially not when it comes to development. 23.48.22 # Grundybear: you get one from a source you trust 23.48.40 # yeah but there's like 5,000 different ones 23.48.54 # still 23.49.27 # ok, what if I plan on compiling on a mobile device then? 23.49.33 # also, what does it men if version.txt is empty 23.49.36 # *mean 23.50.14 # allele: silly question imho 23.50.17 # you don't compile on a mobile device, you compile for a mobile device. And for the record, I'm working on a mobile device (i.e. laptop) 23.50.35 # you can compile on a laptop! 23.50.55 # really? 23.50.58 # :-] 23.52.24 # well I was looking into palm linux, and started thinking 23.52.32 # seriously though, there's hundreds of different versions of the sandisk firmware, how do I know which one I need? 23.52.53 # Grundybear: seriously, we can't tell you 23.53.04 # I would pick one of them from my page 23.53.15 # daniel.haxx.se/... 23.53.48 # it really doesn't matter much which one you pick 23.53.59 # take one from the same region you already have 23.54.05 # ok that's what I needed to know 23.54.05 Part Arelis