--- Log for 15.10.108 Server: brown.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 10 days and 3 hours ago 00.00.07 # no I doesn't 00.00.11 # ir* 00.00.14 # it** 00.00.25 # We said that to you when you were last here - ipodpatcher requires a working ipod 00.00.38 # erf 00.01.39 Quit kushal_12_27_200 ("Leaving") 00.01.45 Quit ender` (" MCSE = Moron Claiming System Expertise, Must Call Someone Else, or Minesweeper Champion, Solitaire E") 00.03.35 Quit Lear ("ChatZilla 0.9.83 [Firefox 3.0.3/2008092417]") 00.03.36 # funman, I'm quite confident you'll figure out the sd/mmc stuff, I'll try to read up some on the PL180 00.04.21 # At the moment I'm out of ideas, I believed there was some GPIO pin to set high, but can't find anything near the SD code in the OF 00.05.17 # I think linux has a PL180 driver, we may get some ideas from there too 00.05.33 Quit aarcane (Remote closed the connection) 00.05.45 # when the initialization procedure is finished ;) 00.05.53 Join Zarggg [0] (n=zarggg@65-78-69-194.c3-0.eas-ubr6.atw-eas.pa.cable.rcn.com) 00.05.54 # bertrik: the Linux driver is in drivers/mmc/host/mmci.c 00.05.54 Join aarcane [0] (n=aarcane@c-24-7-144-248.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) 00.06.38 Join LambdaCalculus37 [0] (i=41585845@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-6e7592055463ecb8) 00.07.23 # bertrik: do you want to look at the Clip OF for SD/MMC code ? 00.07.39 # maybe you could spot the missing bit 00.07.45 Quit Boopop ("CGI:IRC") 00.09.00 # funman, I'd rather read the PL180 and SD documentation a bit more 00.09.41 # good reading then ;) 00.09.48 Quit funman ("leaving") 00.11.15 # BTW, I wonder about CMD0, For another project I'm using SD cards in SPI mode and CMD0 could take quite a while, but in your code it succeeds in the first try already? 00.16.41 Quit dany_21a_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00.28.20 Quit Thundercloud (Remote closed the connection) 00.31.51 Join dany_21a_ [0] (n=dan@84-119-27-244.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at) 00.32.44 # i've rolled an e200v2 bootloader from git, but how do i then patch a e200.bin with it? 00.33.34 # amiconn: Around? 00.33.43 Quit gregzx ("ChatZilla 0.9.83 [Firefox 3.0.3/2008092417]") 00.38.03 Quit bertrik ("Leaving") 00.38.51 # Hillshum: Read the Makefile in rbutil/mkamsboot/ 00.39.01 # Or just type "make" in that directory. 00.39.43 Quit faemir (Remote closed the connection) 00.40.16 # * Hillshum will once his gigabeat build is done...im testing something 00.42.07 Join syn4pse [0] (n=syn4pse@cpe-075-176-144-005.sc.res.rr.com) 00.42.17 Quit massiveH ("Leaving") 00.43.32 Quit syn4pse (Client Quit) 00.45.05 Quit fluoblack (Remote closed the connection) 00.45.35 Quit Soap (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 00.46.01 Join Soap [50] (n=Soap@rockbox/staff/soap) 00.47.05 Quit shotofadds ("Leaving") 00.47.47 # linuxstb: http://rockbox.pastebin.com/f7177faf1 00.48.02 Quit Soap (Client Quit) 00.49.07 # Llorean: yes 00.49.26 # Hillshum: Just use "make" instead of "$(MAKE)" 00.50.13 # amiconn: FS#9489 might be of interest to you. Seems to be caused / affected by a semi-recent commit about one of the WM chips. 00.50.56 Join soap [50] (n=soap@rockbox/staff/soap) 00.52.54 Quit Schmogel (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 00.53.38 Join fdinel [0] (n=Miranda@modemcable204.232-203-24.mc.videotron.ca) 00.53.55 # Llorean: r18478 fixes a plain bug in the .h file. If this causes unwanted frequency resposne, it shows that we actually do not want deephasis 00.53.55 Quit bmbl ("Woah!") 00.54.30 # Iirc the deephasis activation was introduced way earlier by jhMikeS, just that it didn't actually work before r18478 00.57.31 # It was introduced in r14948, a little over a year ago 00.59.29 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 00.59.52 # Well, the poster claims that at one point Rockbox showed a flat response? 01.01.13 Quit balug_ ("Ex-Chat") 01.04.25 # Actually I don't understand why jhMikeS (tried to) enable deemphasis setting. It definitely didn't work for roughly 11 months. The deemphasis setting for 44.1kHz ended up as no deemphasis at all due to being shifted 1 bit too far to the left. This touched the mute bit instead, but didn't cause actual muting because the bit was overridden afterwards (otherwise this bug would have shown up in a quite obvious way...) 01.04.27 # Llorean: judging from the pic in his last post there was an emphasis in the higher frequencies before, at least it doesn't look flat to me... 01.05.05 # n1s: Look at the original post, though. 01.05.15 # at some point there was no emphasis, then it went up, then down. 01.09.02 # rbutil/mkamsboot/sansav2_dualboot.S (v2 git) says C6 e200 down is read for dual boot, but it doesn't do anything 01.10.38 # what is the button for dualboot? 01.13.04 # The dualboot button detection doesn't work for me either (SVN dualboot.S on the Clip). You could try either powering on with USB attached, or turning HOLD on. 01.14.03 # ive tried hold 01.15.17 Quit lastebil (Remote closed the connection) 01.15.21 Join lastebil [0] (n=truck@cube.lomal.la) 01.16.01 Join Tetracomm [0] (n=nicholas@72.252.29.2) 01.17.45 Nick bughunter2 is now known as bughunter1 (n=Jelle@77.164.66.126) 01.17.50 Nick bughunter1 is now known as bughunter2 (n=Jelle@77.164.66.126) 01.18.35 # hi Hillshum, i actually tried the recent bootloader vor the e200v2 today -> works 01.18.44 # the button is "down" 01.18.55 # when do i push it then 01.18.57 # ?? 01.19.17 # while powereing up... where did you get? OF or RB? 01.19.42 # RB same as allways 01.20.03 # the blinking leds? 01.20.12 # yup 01.20.14 Quit n1s () 01.21.30 # latest git? 01.22.14 Join _ICE_ [0] (n=ec182715@75-162-151-105.slkc.qwest.net) 01.22.22 # <_ICE_> Hello 01.22.30 # what happens if you connect USB and than power up? 01.23.02 # USB will power it to OF 01.23.59 # <_ICE_> I'm looking for someone who has pacbox working correctly 01.24.20 # have you correctly specified the model when calling make which invokes mkamsboot? 01.24.30 # e200 01.24.33 # gotta go 01.24.41 # E200 01.24.44 # (case) 01.25.44 # <_ICE_> Perhaps someone can help me. 01.27.09 Quit MethoS (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 01.27.39 Part dany_21a_ 01.27.48 # _ICE_: Perhaps you should just ask your question? 01.29.22 Quit Nico_P (Remote closed the connection) 01.29.30 # <_ICE_> I kinda did 01.30.18 # <_ICE_> Oh, hang on, I found the problem 01.30.24 # <_ICE_> Nevermind then. 01.30.31 Part _ICE_ 01.30.53 Quit culture (Connection timed out) 01.32.30 Quit Llorean ("Leaving.") 01.32.55 Join Llorean [0] (n=DarkkOne@ppp-70-242-15-169.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net) 01.33.18 # Why no wiki up the site in general and let the community move stuff 01.33.41 Join bughunter21 [0] (n=Jelle@77.164.66.126) 01.36.26 # Lars_G: Almost all the site is in the wiki. The remaining pages are in SVN, and are mostly generated dynamically. 01.36.52 Quit pfwsmbkwt ("Leaving") 01.38.01 # nod 01.38.01 # ok makes sense 01.38.25 # So, linuxstb do you think we can get the rockbox devs into the git fad? 01.38.56 Join lacrstech [0] (n=lacrstec@209.216.196.2) 01.39.15 Join tecnmmag [0] (n=tecnmmag@206.251.250.217) 01.43.41 Join AndyIL [0] (i=AndyI@212.14.205.32) 01.44.16 # Lars_G: you certainly wouldnt be the first to try... 01.44.44 Quit LambdaCalculus37 ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") 01.46.10 # scorche|sh: I wonder if the rest are alive 01.46.22 # Ot 01.46.34 # It's after midnight for a large percentage of 'em 01.46.39 # And "Ot" was a typo 01.48.10 Quit bughunter2 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 01.50.06 Nick bughunter21 is now known as bughunter2 (n=Jelle@77.164.66.126) 01.54.32 Quit AndyI (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 01.58.34 Quit lasser ("ChatZilla 0.9.83 [Firefox 2.0.0.17/2008082700]") 02.01.45 Part pixelma 02.02.01 Join pixelma2 [0] (n=marianne@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 02.04.39 Quit krazykit ("later mashed potaters") 02.09.09 # What was the original idea Llorean ? 02.10.16 # Lars_G: What original idea? 02.12.14 Part toffe82 02.12.36 Quit PaulJam (".") 02.13.20 # Llorean: If Ot was a typo, what was the original meaning? 02.14.22 # "It", the beginning of my next sentence. 02.14.28 # I bumped the Enter key while going for backspace. 02.17.56 Quit coatman (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 02.18.09 Join coatman [0] (n=coatman@r02jvgmb7.device.mst.edu) 02.19.45 # Ah 02.19.46 # thanks 02.20.02 Quit HellDragon (No route to host) 02.32.02 Quit m0f0x () 02.37.37 Quit coatman (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 02.46.39 Quit jhulst (Remote closed the connection) 02.49.05 Join m0f0x [0] (n=m0f0x@189-47-50-218.dsl.telesp.net.br) 02.50.30 Join coatman [0] (n=coatman@r01jvgmb7.device.mst.edu) 02.59.34 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 03.22.05 Quit gkffjcs (Remote closed the connection) 03.38.10 Join jhulst [0] (n=jhulst@unaffiliated/jhulst) 03.53.24 Quit linuxstb (Remote closed the connection) 04.06.19 Nick fxb is now known as fxb__ (n=felixbru@h1252615.stratoserver.net) 04.12.18 Quit HBK () 04.12.53 Join HBK [0] (i=hbk@pool-71-96-74-73.dfw.dsl-w.verizon.net) 04.13.03 Quit HBK (Client Quit) 04.14.05 Join HBK [0] (i=hbk@pool-71-96-74-73.dfw.dsl-w.verizon.net) 04.17.28 Quit coatman (Remote closed the connection) 04.21.26 Join blkhawk- [0] (i=HydraIRC@g227064008.adsl.alicedsl.de) 04.23.41 # Lear: I know nothing about MP4 parsing, but its hard to believe they intend a seek table to be needed 04.24.16 # I'd imagine something like we use for ASF where we walk the bitstream looking for the packet we want would work 04.25.00 Join ze [0] (i=ze@76.91.72.105) 04.33.46 Join miepchen^schlaf_ [0] (n=miepchen@p579ECD3A.dip.t-dialin.net) 04.38.38 Quit blkhawk (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 04.39.58 Join sarixe [0] (n=sarixe@ool-43540968.dyn.optonline.net) 04.40.45 Join allele [0] (n=allele@CPE-69-23-137-242.wi.res.rr.com) 04.41.56 Quit miepchen^schlaf (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 04.44.12 # for building with cygwin, all I need to do is install the newest version and run the automatic build script, correct? 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07.42.57 # the album art patch that was accepted into SVN a while back? 07.43.02 # which patch is that? 07.43.15 # * B4gder is slooow 07.43.17 # maybe. i'm trying to use alternate themes but album art never shows up 07.43.31 # i'm using one of the recent daily builds 07.44.41 # have you looked at the AlbumArt wiki page to see if you might be doing something wrong? 07.45.56 # oh. i'm looking at that now and for some reason i thought all the image files had to be jpg 07.46.29 # thanks. i couldn't find that wiki page 07.46.36 # time to mogrify 07.57.02 Quit kushal_12_27_200 ("Leaving") 08.00.33 Join ameyer_ [0] (n=ameyer17@adsl-75-57-185-19.dsl.emhril.sbcglobal.net) 08.04.12 Quit m0f0x ("sleep") 08.06.04 Quit ameyer (Nick collision from services.) 08.06.10 Nick ameyer_ is now known as ameyer (n=ameyer17@adsl-75-57-185-19.dsl.emhril.sbcglobal.net) 08.07.00 Quit homielowe () 08.07.24 Join LinusN [0] (n=linus@rockbox/developer/LinusN) 08.09.25 Quit miepchen^schlaf_ () 08.23.09 Join Zagor [0] (n=bjorn@rockbox/developer/Zagor) 08.33.44 # * amiconn is running a modified bins.pl now 08.35.41 Join Rob2222 [0] (n=Miranda@p4FDCC08B.dip.t-dialin.net) 08.36.17 Quit Tetracomm ("Leaving") 08.40.28 Quit BigBambi (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 08.41.39 Join ameyer_ [0] (n=ameyer17@adsl-75-57-179-136.dsl.emhril.sbcglobal.net) 08.48.52 Quit ameyer (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 08.49.19 Quit cool_walking_ ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") 08.52.06 Join ender` [0] (i=krneki@foo.eternallybored.org) 08.52.11 Quit Rob2223 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 08.55.25 # B4gder/ Zagor: Could you perhaps give the script that shows the SVN revisions on the webpage an option to not let it limit the maximum number of files, and then set that option for tables where only one SVN revision is shown? 08.56.36 # * amiconn also wonders what Zagor did to the builds... 08.57.39 # tables where only one revision is shown? where to we have such a table? 08.57.46 # something is wrong 08.57.48 # do 08.58.02 # it seems no server wants to build the mrobe500 build 08.58.09 # haha 08.58.21 # Zagor: E.g. when clicking on the build timestamp in the build table 08.59.00 # that is not always one revision though 08.59.01 # amiconn: ah, ok. good idea. 08.59.12 # no but it makes sense to show all files there 08.59.22 # I agree 08.59.41 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 09.01.16 Quit BHSPitMonkey (Remote closed the connection) 09.01.18 # the build will now restart 09.01.30 Quit GodEater ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") 09.01.34 # something is not healthy 09.07.00 Quit Seed ("cu, Andre") 09.09.31 Quit perrikwp ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") 09.09.49 Nick blkhawk- is now known as blkhawk (i=HydraIRC@g227064008.adsl.alicedsl.de) 09.10.00 Join BigBambi [0] (i=86ceaf40@rockbox/staff/BigBambi) 09.10.24 Quit gevaerts (Nick collision from services.) 09.10.36 Join gevaerts [0] (n=fg@rockbox/developer/gevaerts) 09.10.38 Join petur [50] (n=petur@rockbox/developer/petur) 09.13.10 # B4gder: How/ where shall I upload the 3.0.1 binaries, and the flash images (after testing as far as possible)? 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Not only MP3 uses ID3 11.58.55 Join kachna|lappy [0] (n=kachna@r3g248.net.upc.cz) 11.59.04 # markun: And it's also layer-1 and layer-2... 11.59.30 # Do we actually support id3 on other formats, or just detect and skip it? 11.59.34 # markun: obviously that would be illegal :p 12.00.38 Nick fxb is now known as fxb__ (n=felixbru@h1252615.stratoserver.net) 12.02.17 Part kachna|lappy ("Konversation terminated!") 12.02.19 Join thegeek_ [0] (n=nnscript@s080a.studby.ntnu.no) 12.03.27 Quit ender` (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 12.04.01 Join ender` [0] (i=krneki@foo.eternallybored.org) 12.08.52 Quit TENK (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 12.19.42 # linuxstb: I simply followed the name scheme of the other files in that directory 12.20.25 Quit thegeek (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 12.20.49 # Zagor: The others are (mostly) named after container formats, not codecs. 12.21.45 # also should the mp3entry struct eventually be renamed? 12.21.59 # JdGordon: I think so, yes. 12.22.35 # linuxstb: what do you suggest it be called instead? 12.22.47 # linuxstb: that patch I asked about on monday.. looks ok to go in? 12.22.54 # Zagor: metadata :p 12.23.11 Join Lambduh [0] (n=Lambda@12-203-112-233.client.mchsi.com) 12.23.32 # JdGordon: the struct can very well be called 'metadata'. but I was referring to the file currently named mp3.c 12.23.54 # Zagor: Could it be further split into the id3 handling (id3.c?) and mpeg audio handling (mpa.c?) At the very least I think it should be mpa.c (same as the codec), not mp3.c 12.24.05 # (because it's not layer-3 only) 12.24.11 # I'm fine with mpa 12.24.41 # ah 12.25.07 # audioentry? 12.25.23 # trackentry? 12.25.31 # trackinfo? 12.26.24 # JdGordon: You're talking about the patch to move events in apps? 12.26.35 # yeah 12.26.50 # It looked fine to me, but I know nothing about events in Rockbox - I've never dealt with them. 12.28.35 # linuxstb: what specifically would you like to move out into an mpeg audio file? as far as I can see mp3.c is only id3 code already. all mpeg frame and header code is in mp3data.c 12.29.07 # Zagor: Maybe I misread then - I only had a quick look, but it seemed to be reading mpeg frame headers. 12.29.56 # only to find the id3 frame, I think 12.32.42 # OK. 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stint in the trenches ? :) 15.47.10 Nick fxb__ is now known as fxb (n=felixbru@h1252615.stratoserver.net) 15.47.11 # It's a long war... 15.47.20 # GodEater: Looks like he's getting called back into active duty. ;) 15.47.26 # pong 15.47.28 # especially if you're being forced to fight it all on your own 15.47.30 # poor Nico 15.48.04 # linuxstb: I never touched any of the recording parts 15.48.17 # Nico_P: I was looking at the strip_tags() function, and "svn blame" says you added it to playback.c But I think that may be wrong, lostlogic seems to have written the actual function (now in metadata.c) 15.48.46 # Nico_P: My question was simply why strip_tags() is done like it is, and not done as part of get_metadata() before the track is buffered. 15.49.33 # IIUC, the data is buffered, and then discarded. 15.50.05 Nick MrDuck is now known as kachna (n=kachna@r3g248.net.upc.cz) 15.52.01 # get_metadata is separate from the buffering stuff 15.52.19 # Yes, I know. But get_metadata could return the corrected filesize. 15.52.41 # i.e. how much of the file to buffer (bytes to skip at start, and total length). 15.53.04 # hmm yes, maybe that could work 15.53.50 # I think there's already a "bytestoskip" variable (or similar), but maybe it's used in a codec-dependant way. 15.54.16 # first_frame_offset 15.55.22 # linuxstb: where is strip_tags called from? 15.55.29 # Only once, in playback.c 15.55.50 # ah yes, got it 15.55.55 # With the comment "This is most likely an audio handle, so we strip the useless..." 15.56.01 # Not reassuring ;) 15.56.03 # There's also some metadata to strip off the end 15.57.56 # Yes, that's what strip_tags does - strips tags from the end 16.02.04 Join Rob2222 [0] (n=Miranda@p4FDCC08B.dip.t-dialin.net) 16.09.32 Quit tvelocity (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 16.10.00 Join tvelocity [0] (n=tony@195.167.65.108) 16.22.20 Join XavierGr [0] (n=xavier@rockbox/staff/XavierGr) 16.28.34 Quit sarixe (Remote closed the connection) 16.35.41 Quit kachna (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 16.38.56 Join vitja [0] (n=vitja@79.120.98.174) 16.43.54 Quit Zagor ("Client exiting") 16.47.56 Quit vitja (Remote closed the connection) 16.52.32 Join GodEater__ [0] (i=c2cbc962@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-94fac093124affc3) 16.52.37 Nick GodEater__ is now known as GodEater- (i=c2cbc962@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-94fac093124affc3) 16.53.00 Join toffe82 [0] (n=chatzill@h-74-0-180-178.snvacaid.covad.net) 16.53.09 Join blahrus [0] (n=blahrus@75.150.209.185) 16.54.18 Quit GodEater ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") 16.54.22 Join GodEater [0] (i=c2cbc962@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-d4731387b8caf025) 16.55.18 Quit GodEater (Client Quit) 16.55.18 Quit GodEater- (Client Quit) 16.56.19 Join pvbcharon_ [0] (n=charon@62.225.173.228) 16.56.43 Quit pvbcharon (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 16.56.57 Quit pvbcharon_ (Client Quit) 16.59.49 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 17.00.24 Join kushal_12_27_200 [0] (n=kushal@12.169.180.178) 17.03.56 Join Crabcakes [0] (n=mail@cpe-76-190-168-137.neo.res.rr.com) 17.04.01 Part Crabcakes 17.14.08 Join m0f0x [0] (n=m0f0x@189-47-15-168.dsl.telesp.net.br) 17.16.48 Join sarixe [0] (n=sarixe@ool-43540968.dyn.optonline.net) 17.17.17 Quit sarixe (Connection reset by peer) 17.18.39 Join sarixe [0] (n=sarixe@ool-43540968.dyn.optonline.net) 17.19.26 Join GodEater [0] (i=c2cbc962@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-9c152c5a4e91ad84) 17.21.36 Quit sarixe (Client Quit) 17.21.54 Join sarixe [0] (n=sarixe@ool-43540968.dyn.optonline.net) 17.24.52 Join perrikwp [0] (i=d1a8d351@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-944d88379e3991b7) 17.31.50 Join avis [0] (n=ident@pdpc/supporter/student/avis) 17.32.40 Join fyrestorm [0] (n=nnscript@cpe-68-173-234-148.nyc.res.rr.com) 17.39.05 Join saratoga [0] (n=9803c6dd@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-40ef4613021fac3b) 17.39.55 Quit aarcane (Client Quit) 17.53.24 Quit massiveH ("Leaving") 17.54.46 Join goffa [0] (n=goffa@216.220.23.105) 17.56.53 Part LinusN 18.00.53 Join testing123 [0] (n=c13efb0a@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-cc2c5f9a2feaf0e8) 18.08.56 Quit goffa_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 18.09.02 Quit daurnimator ("Cyas later...") 18.09.07 Quit kushal_12_27_200 ("This computer has gone to sleep") 18.09.36 Join MethoS [0] (n=clemens@host-091-097-241-167.ewe-ip-backbone.de) 18.15.09 # hey anyone home? 18.15.32 # I just updated my ihp-120 to rockbox 3, and some weird stuff happened 18.16.02 Quit petur ("work->home") 18.16.29 # testing123: Do you mean the release version 3.0? 18.16.38 # And not "a current build from after 3.0"? 18.16.47 # I tried release 3.0 and the latest build, same weirdness 18.16.58 Quit BigBambi ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") 18.17.15 # You need to be more specific. Not only with what version you're using, but because I can't guess what "weirdness" means. 18.17.26 # I'll explain right now 18.17.50 # The archive unzipped to just a .rockbox directory, and it failed to boot with bootloader result -1 18.17.54 Quit nplus ("Leaving") 18.18.03 # It's supposed to be like that. 18.18.07 Join nplus [0] (n=nplus@141.25.Globcom.Net) 18.18.09 # I'm guessing you haven't updated your bootloader in a very long time. 18.18.22 # Oh, that could be it 18.18.31 # We moved rockbox.iriver into the .rockbox folder over a year ago. 18.18.59 # IC, and the old bootloader doesn't know to look there? 18.19.04 # Nope. 18.19.12 # that explains it, thanks 18.19.21 # We updated the bootloader, waited quite some time until we felt a high percentage of people would've updated their bootloaders, then changed where it was. 18.19.36 Join faemir [0] (n=quassel@88-106-238-33.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) 18.19.41 # I have an old ihp_120.hex that's already patched, can I patch it again with the new bootloader? 18.19.51 # You should use an unpatched one. 18.20.30 # hmm, I hope iriver still have it for download, I don't know if I have a copy here 18.20.57 # We have mirrors of the files. 18.21.19 # http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IriverBoot 18.21.21 # Oh, cool 18.21.59 # Of course I changed to rockbox because the iriver firmware sucked so tragically anyway :P 18.24.21 # it was cool that you got the recording to wav working, I have many band bootlegs thanks to you guys 18.28.01 Nick ameyer_ is now known as ameyer (n=ameyer17@adsl-75-57-179-136.dsl.emhril.sbcglobal.net) 18.31.43 # I got the latest firmware and patched it, will try flashing it later once I've got the AC adaptor 18.31.54 Quit bughunter2 ("bye") 18.32.01 # thanks for the support :) 18.32.47 Quit testing123 ("CGI:IRC 0.5.9 (2006/06/06)") 18.42.01 Join miepchen^schlaf [0] (n=miepchen@p579ECD3A.dip.t-dialin.net) 18.43.56 Join {phoenix} [0] (n=dirk@p54B4775B.dip.t-dialin.net) 18.48.14 Join kachna [0] (n=kachna@r4ax178.net.upc.cz) 18.53.33 Join bertrik [0] (n=bertrik@ip117-49-211-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl) 18.53.55 Quit meven (Remote closed the connection) 18.54.03 Join BigBambi [0] (n=Alex@rockbox/staff/BigBambi) 18.58.48 # markun: speaking of fonts -- please try 18-Adobe-Helvetica, and then navigate to the main menu 18.59.10 # I think there is a problem with the "k" -- it connects to the "c" on "Rockbox" 18.59.11 # wpyh: ok, I will 18.59.51 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 18.59.57 # wpyh: ok, now what? 19.00.21 # ah yes, I see it 19.00.38 # also the u and m are too far appart 19.00.42 Join domonoky [0] (n=Domonoky@rockbox/developer/domonoky) 19.01.01 # ah, yes, I didn't notice the u and m before 19.01.20 # is it a pristine font? 19.01.43 # I think so, but we've edited font withs of other fonts as well 19.01.46 # So on average it's OK? 19.02.46 # gevaerts: yes, the average is, but not the average error 19.03.22 # * gevaerts is not a statistician ;) 19.03.35 Join Thundercloud [0] (n=thunderc@cpc1-hem18-0-0-cust660.lutn.cable.ntl.com) 19.03.46 # hm 19.03.59 # * wpyh fires up gbdfed 19.08.06 Quit Thundercloud (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 19.08.41 # markun: the "k" is positioned too far to the left... 19.12.25 Join aarcane [0] (n=aarcane@adsl-99-154-145-70.dsl.scrm01.sbcglobal.net) 19.13.35 Join massiveH [0] (n=massiveH@pool-71-187-243-194.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net) 19.20.55 Quit sarixe ("Ex-Chat") 19.21.28 Join mf0102 [0] (n=michi@e181132015.adsl.alicedsl.de) 19.22.07 # * wpyh finished reading HotDog but didn't understand it 19.22.30 Join bluebrother [0] (n=dom@rockbox/staff/bluebrother) 19.22.39 Quit m0f0x (Remote closed the connection) 19.23.10 Quit neddy (Connection timed out) 19.23.23 # markun: I've made a patch for this problem 19.23.33 # should I post it to flyspray or just put it up on pastebin 19.23.34 # ? 19.24.00 Quit Schmogel ("Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org") 19.24.45 Quit massiveH ("Leaving") 19.25.37 # markun: the patch is currently at http://pastebin.ca/1227997 . please take a look 19.25.55 # wpyh: Add it to Flyspray as well. 19.26.47 # OK 19.28.21 Join aarcane_ [0] (n=aarcane@99.154.145.70) 19.28.27 Quit aarcane (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 19.30.02 # ok, I've created FS #9491 for it 19.31.08 Part kachna ("Konversation terminated!") 19.32.59 # Okay. 19.35.29 Join Horscht [0] (n=Horscht@xbmc/user/horscht) 19.35.42 Join Tetracomm [0] (n=nicholas@72.252.29.2) 19.37.01 Quit aarcane_ (Client Quit) 19.39.54 Join Schmogel [0] (n=Miranda@p3EE21B50.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 19.45.23 Join neddy [0] (n=john@nat/sun/x-f6cde444b27bae1b) 19.45.25 Join kushal_12_27_200 [0] (n=kushal@12.169.180.178) 19.47.04 Quit tvelocity (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 19.48.08 Join przemhb [0] (n=przemhb@chello089077063231.chello.pl) 19.50.43 Join tvelocity [0] (n=tony@195.167.65.108) 19.54.49 Join Thundercloud [0] (n=thunderc@cpc1-hem18-0-0-cust660.lutn.cable.ntl.com) 19.54.53 Quit kushal_12_27_200 ("Leaving") 19.56.00 Join tvelocity[a] [0] (n=tony@gw1.mycosmos.gr) 19.58.02 Join jgarvey [0] (n=jgarvey@cpe-098-026-069-229.nc.res.rr.com) 20.02.26 Join PaulJam [0] (i=PaulJam_@vpn-3097.gwdg.de) 20.08.19 Quit Horscht ("I am root. 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I never worked with those .lds configuration-files 20.23.44 Quit J-23 ("Flying cow pressed ^D on my keyboard.") 20.26.54 Quit massiveH (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 20.27.09 Join massiveH [0] (n=massiveH@pool-71-187-243-194.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net) 20.28.44 Quit massiveH (Client Quit) 20.28.56 Quit GodEater_ (Remote closed the connection) 20.29.15 Join neddy [0] (n=john@nat/sun/x-54c4446eabcba5ba) 20.29.25 Quit schNibbler ("Ex-Chat") 20.29.52 Join Nibbl [0] (n=Nibbler@e181116203.adsl.alicedsl.de) 20.36.45 Join syn4pse [0] (n=syn4pse@cpe-075-176-144-005.sc.res.rr.com) 20.40.47 # bluebrother/ domonoky: there? 20.40.58 # * domonoky waves 20.41.10 Quit Tetracomm ("Leaving") 20.41.26 # yep 20.42.50 # I can't seem to duplicate a crash in the simulator that I get on my player. grr. 20.43.36 # syn4pse: what sort of crash 20.43.36 Join Tetracomm [0] (n=nicholas@72.252.29.2) 20.44.07 # well, the screen flashes and turns off the player 20.44.19 # dany_21a_: What do you want to do? The linker does that (not the compiler), but the code itself is loaded at a fixed address, so you may also need to relocate parts (in crt0.S) 20.44.33 # i'm trying to see if i'm missing some bounds checking but i haven't found it yet 20.45.11 # syn4pse: Is this in a plugin you're writing? 20.45.39 # yes, it's #8647 but i don't have the newest update there yet 20.45.46 Join m0f0x [0] (n=m0f0x@189-47-15-168.dsl.telesp.net.br) 20.45.51 # Stack overflow? 20.46.00 # bluebrother/ domonoky: Do we need to do something special so that rbuitl will install 3.0.1 on archos when it's published? 20.46.14 # it could be, i'm pretty new at this 20.46.41 # Do you declare any large (bigger than a few KB) local variables? The stack is only about 8KB 20.46.50 Join pierre- [0] (n=pierre@93-81-113-182.broadband.corbina.ru) 20.46.53 Quit Nibbl ("Ex-Chat") 20.47.02 # hmm. The latest release is in rbutil.ini, and that number is global. 20.47.06 # yes, modifcations in rbutil :-) 20.47.26 # bluebrother / domonoky: Same question, but for the bootloaders n1s is working on releasing... 20.47.34 # that might be it. i have an 80x80 array that i'd like to get rid of except it's very highly populated 20.47.42 # of char 20.47.48 # so if we only release 3.0.1 for archos we need to handle this in some way ... might be a good chance to make it retrieve that information from the webserver? 20.47.51 # Actually, is there a reason for rbutil to install the current build when doing a full install? 20.47.57 # linuxstb: new bootloaders are now problem, it just installs what is on the server 20.47.58 # linuxstb: no special handling needed for that 20.48.08 # syn4pse: can you make that global instead? 20.48.10 # What about md5 checking? 20.48.19 Join bertrik [0] (n=bertrik@ip117-49-211-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl) 20.48.20 # * amiconn still needs to solve the flash image versioning mess 20.48.23 # * linuxstb saw a file on the download server with md5 checksums 20.48.24 # s/now/no/ 20.48.28 # oh, well it is global, and i even made it static 20.48.32 # Fortunately it will simplify the flashing plugins 20.48.37 # well, we could of course make rbutil always release a release "current" that simply links to the most recent. But that would break displaying the version number of the release 20.48.37 # i pass it in with a pointer 20.48.37 # That's not the issue then 20.48.40 Join ender` [0] (i=krneki@foo.eternallybored.org) 20.49.17 # * bluebrother thinks retrieving the latest release version number from the webserver would be a good thing 20.49.34 # linuxstb: the only really need md5sums are for the iriver bootloaders, for those we need a new rbutil release.. 20.50.05 # the md5sum on the server are only hint to rbutil, to detect if there are new bootloaders there... 20.50.21 Quit Tetracomm ("Leaving") 20.50.27 # * gevaerts thinks that a complete install should be the release 20.50.31 # linuxstb: hey... only for debugging purposes, i already managed to relocate one big function at runtime and jump to it - but stack and some global variables are lying in the area which i want to use for remaping other memory - so i need to define stack begins after 0xsomewhere 20.51.08 # Seems like [IDC]Dragon was a bit lazy wrt of flash image versioning. Some of the old images are V.0, some are V.1 20.51.13 # linuxstb: where can i find/search documentaion, how this boot.lds - script works? 20.51.21 # V.0 is not really defined, but can be relied upon 20.51.24 # gevaerts: i got rid of the typdef struct :) 20.51.55 # dany_21a_: I think that you just need to put ". = 0xaddress" just before the block you want to move, like th stack 20.51.56 # dany_21a_: There are many such files in the Rockbox source code (under firmware/target/) - they may give you a clue. Or google for "gnu linker scripts" 20.52.41 # syn4pse: good :) Now make it work! 20.52.52 # yeah, that will be the ticket 20.53.41 # so if we release a 3.0.1 only for the old archos ones, we need to modify rbutil. shouldnt be too hard.. but getting the last release version from the server would be even better... 20.54.28 # we already retrieve various info things from the server. I'd also like it better to only retrieve a single file instead of several (as we have now) 20.54.51 # but that seems to be necessary due to build.rockbox.org and download.rockbox.org being different servers 20.54.53 Join webguest69 [0] (n=4f6fabb6@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-e837b0fe218bdec0) 20.54.53 # okay, thx gevaerts and linuxstb, will google for that 20.55.04 # any reason the ipod accessory patch hasn't been commited? 20.55.21 # maybe someone with the needed server script skills can unify all those infos ? :-) 20.56.55 # ok i had a local static variable[2000], i'll move that out to global 20.57.11 # 20.58.15 # saratoga: No idea - it's never really been discussed here. Is it harmless? 20.59.05 # syn4pse: If it was static, then it wouldn't be on the stack. So maybe the problem is elsewhere (i.e. not a stack overflow) 20.59.48 # it probably is, i got a tip to make that variable static once before to avoid the stack issues 20.59.51 Join petur [50] (n=petur@rockbox/developer/petur) 20.59.52 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 21.00.03 # thought i was on to something :( 21.00.16 Quit webguest69 ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)") 21.00.29 # Not allocating that sort of sizes on the stack is always good 21.00.49 # is there a preferred/default size that i should use for album art? 21.01.05 Quit Thundercloud (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 21.01.23 # intrados: It's specific to the theme you're using. 21.01.25 # intrados: The same size as the WPS that you are using requires 21.07.14 Join Twisty [0] (n=mhesten@242.80-202-24.nextgentel.com) 21.08.24 # is that in the cfg file? 21.09.29 # linuxstb: i'm not sure, I haven't tried it 21.09.40 # but everyone seems to use it, and linus seemed to think it was nearly done 21.09.52 # intrados: it's in the .wps file, or if you're running a recent build (last week or so, I'm not sure exactly) it's also in the rockbox info screen under System 21.10.15 Join AndyI [0] (i=AndyI@212.14.205.32) 21.10.17 # linuxstb, saratoga: I haven't seen any reports of it causing trouble at least 21.11.09 # * linuxstb adds committing that patch to Mr Someone's to-do list 21.18.32 # it seems like several of the themes which are supposed to have album art don't according to system>info 21.18.54 # does that make sense? am i missing something? 21.19.12 # Which revision are you running? 21.19.56 Quit {phoenix} ("Konversation terminated!") 21.20.08 # r18805-0814 on a sansa e280 21.20.35 # r18805-081014 21.20.53 # * ameyer bets that the themes that intrados is having trouble with haven't been upgraded since before the last major theme-breaking commit 21.21.20 Quit AndyIL (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 21.21.31 # That's new enough for the info screen to have album art size info 21.21.48 Quit Twst (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 21.21.58 # Do these themes work properly apart from the album art? 21.22.28 # uh, not exactly. the aeromac theme that i tried is missing everything but the text 21.22.44 Quit bertrik (Remote closed the connection) 21.23.07 # OK. That means they are outdated like ameyer suggested 21.23.22 # * gevaerts isn't a WPS specialist, so he can't help more 21.23.34 # okay. so there's nothing to do but wait? can anyone suggest themes that are up to date? 21.24.18 Join {phoenix} [0] (n=dirk@p54B4775B.dip.t-dialin.net) 21.26.09 # Didn't some people fix most of the themes on the wiki? 21.26.42 Join webguest70 [0] (n=cfb3a189@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-1e46dca805a41b9c) 21.27.53 # not sure. i've been getting themes from http://rockbox-themes.cleansoap.org/index.php?res=176x220x16 21.28.11 # intrados: That site isn't intended for use. 21.28.41 Join sarixe [0] (n=sarixe@ool-435407e9.dyn.optonline.net) 21.28.58 # Hey could anyone get me write access to the wiki? My account is ThomasMurray 21.29.32 # oh, really? where would i go to find themes then? 21.30.25 # webguest70: I'm on it. Just curious, what are you planning to do? 21.30.38 # just upload a theme 21.30.42 # intrados: There's a link to them from the "Extras" page on our side. 21.31.38 # webguest70: done. Now no spamming! ;) 21.31.53 # THANKS! 21.32.24 # Llorean: thanks. what is the other site for then? 21.32.24 Quit webguest70 ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 21.33.10 # intrados: it used to be the themes site, but because of various issues it's not updated anymore. 21.33.19 # gevaerts: It was never the official themes site. 21.33.41 # It used to be an unofficial themes site. We're planning to reintroduce it as an official one, but it's not working properly yet, and all the themes are outdated anyway for the moment. 21.33.45 # either way, that's the first result for rockbox themes on google 21.34.34 # intrados: We can't control google... 21.34.45 # i know 21.35.00 # but can't you include a link or something on that page? 21.35.36 # I would think that the fact that it's not at rockbox.org would be a clue right there it's not official. 21.36.29 Quit pierre- (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 21.38.18 Join bughunter2 [0] (n=Jelle@77.164.66.126) 21.39.50 Quit sarixe (Remote closed the connection) 21.40.31 Join linuxstb_ [0] (n=linuxstb@rockbox/developer/linuxstb) 21.40.54 Join sarixe [0] (n=sarixe@ool-435407e9.dyn.optonline.net) 21.42.03 Quit linuxstb (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 21.44.26 Nick linuxstb_ is now known as linuxstb (n=linuxstb@rockbox/developer/linuxstb) 21.45.28 Join Thundercloud [0] (n=thunderc@cpc1-hem18-0-0-cust660.lutn.cable.ntl.com) 21.45.46 Join lwizardl [0] (n=james@76-221-209-202.lightspeed.gdrpmi.sbcglobal.net) 21.45.51 # hi 21.46.08 # i'm not if rockbox is compatible with my Ipod video 21.46.32 # What's the disk capacity? 21.46.34 # markun: Are you there? 21.46.40 # I have a 30GB Ipod Video (Black case) and i'm tired of the database error 36 21.47.08 # Then yes, that should be compatible with Rockbox. 21.47.13 # if rockbox was not compatible with your device, it simply wouldnt work 21.47.44 # ok it wouldn't start then fail and leave me with a bricked device 21.47.58 # No, it wouldn't install at all 21.48.08 # ok good 21.48.30 # and ipods cant realyl be bricked unless you get pretty creative 21.49.45 Quit Thundercloud (Remote closed the connection) 21.50.49 # or use a hammer :-) 21.50.52 # scorche|sh, never tried it, i've just had to use itunes to get some podcasts i like and now most linux apps seem to fail read/write to my ipod 21.51.09 # but after i formated it to fat32 no more issues, its just weird 21.53.43 # thanks for the information i'm going to give rockbox a try 21.53.47 Quit lwizardl ("Ex-Chat") 21.56.33 Join massiveH [0] (n=massiveH@pool-71-187-243-194.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net) 21.57.17 Quit LambdaCalculus37 ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") 21.57.21 Join Boopop [0] (n=892c01c8@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-de315df426f35253) 21.57.57 # Can someone help me with the themes on Rockbox on a 80Gb iPod video? 21.58.17 # What's your question? 21.58.23 # I installed Rockbox 3.0, and the theme looks nothing like that on wikipedia 21.58.39 # The menus are very dull, and the now playing screen doesn't show the album art or anything 21.59.02 # I've tried other themes but the same thing happens pretty much 21.59.07 # http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/WpsIpod5g 21.59.12 # Sounds like you're using old themes - where did you download them from? 21.59.21 Join dabujo [0] (i=xx@p4FDB2205.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 21.59.21 # (old = broken) 21.59.45 # Well the theme that came with it didn't work 21.59.47 # Boopop: you need to have your album art arranged a certain way...the AlbumArt wiki page goes into this 21.59.52 # "didnt work"? 22.00.06 # also, do you have your album art named correctly? 22.00.19 # the menu screens were lifeless, and the now playing screen looks nothing like this 22.00.20 # http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/5/5e/Cabbie2ipodvid.png/220px-Cabbie2ipodvid.png 22.00.40 # I'm not bothered about the album art, just the fact that all I get for a menu is a solid colour and a tny font 22.00.42 # tiny* 22.00.48 # Boopop: i dont knwo what you mean by "lifeless" and what *does* it look like? 22.01.05 # Boopop: go and select the default theme again 22.01.11 # Boopop: When you installed Rockbox, did you install the fonts? 22.01.41 # No because it didn't say I needed them as I was using the build 22.01.42 # I think 22.02.16 Join n1s [0] (n=nils@rockbox/developer/n1s) 22.02.25 # You need to install the fonts 22.02.38 # Release version even 22.02.53 # "The release version, on the other hand, does not change, so fonts are included with it." 22.02.57 # But the default theme (cabbie2) should have the font included 22.03.22 # and it should look like that...try selecting it again from the theme menu as i said before 22.03.23 # * gevaerts thinks we should just start over again. This conversation is getting too confused 22.03.42 # Have you set up album art as described on www.rockbox.org/wiki/AlbumArt ? 22.03.55 # Hold on 22.04.40 # ah nevermind, it seems to have sorted itself out 22.04.55 # Thanks :0 22.04.57 # :)* 22.05.02 Quit mf0102 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 22.05.27 Join Tetracomm [0] (n=nicholas@72.252.29.2) 22.05.58 Quit synergist ("changing servers") 22.06.07 Join synergist [0] (i=christop@cant.be-arsed.co.uk) 22.06.29 # Ok, next question 22.06.34 # 42 22.06.41 # The manual 22.06.42 # Why does my music sometimes just refuse to play 22.06.48 # IE I press play and nothing happens 22.06.56 # *nothing*? 22.07.01 # In file view or database? 22.07.03 # and why sometimes does the thing emit a high pitched noise 22.07.05 # what are you trying to play? 22.07.05 # database 22.07.10 # and the I'll restart it and it works 22.07.22 # Turn key click off if it is on 22.07.23 # wow... 22.07.33 # You don't start playing tracks with the "play" button - you use select (the middle button). 22.07.42 # I know that 22.08.00 # You said " IE I press play and nothing happens" 22.08.02 # well, you said "i press play", so... 22.08.10 # I press select on the piece of music I want 22.08.11 # Which is to be expected... 22.08.26 # Nothing happens, I press play, still nothing happens, I press it again, still nothing >.< 22.08.35 # Boopop: Press select, not play 22.08.42 # we just went over this...you dont press play 22.09.01 # And I just went over it also " I press select on the piece of music I want" 22.09.02 # Boopop: Then please try to be accurate, we can only go by what you say, we can't guess what you mean 22.09.08 # Then nothing happens 22.09.12 # then stop saying play... 22.09.13 # Stop saying you press play when you mean select 22.09.14 # rockbox is not aerosmith, you don't "just press play" 22.09.21 # It is just confusing 22.09.49 Join jeffdameth [0] (n=jeff@dyndsl-080-228-185-131.ewe-ip-backbone.de) 22.10.19 # I press play on the piece of music I want to listen to, in the Database view. Then the now playing screen appears and nothing happens. I then pause and restart the song with the play/pause button and it still doesn't play. 22.10.24 # shit, lol 22.10.35 # STOP SAYING PLAY 22.10.35 # ..... 22.10.35 # I press select on the piece of music I want to listen to* 22.10.38 # * BigBambi gives up 22.11.05 # Boopop: try turning off key clicks like BigBambi suggested 22.11.10 # the play button will resume a song that you stopped playing, not start a song you have selected, that is why you use the select key 22.11.23 # wait...now the now playing screen appears?...you said that "nothing happened" at first...seriously...be specific...it matters 22.11.41 # Meh, nevermind, thanks for the help - What about the sreeching I get sometimes when I switch it on? 22.11.53 # 13:11 < gevaerts> Boopop: try turning off key clicks like BigBambi suggested 22.11.57 # KEYCLICKS 22.12.11 # Keyclicks would fix both problems? 22.12.15 # turning it off that is 22.12.24 # Boopop: If you want help, you really need to give us info. We aren't psychic and we can't guess 22.12.25 # no...keyclicks was suggested for your screeching issue 22.12.30 # Boopop: no, the screeching 22.12.36 # ah ok, thanks 22.12.49 Quit massiveH ("Leaving") 22.13.13 # Is it the same files each time that fail to play? 22.13.20 # Nope 22.13.24 # I restart it and they'll work 22.13.36 # Boopop, do they have DRM on them? 22.13.41 # Nope 22.13.46 # advcomp2019: then they wouldnt work at all 22.13.53 # And what happens, EXACTLY, when you try to play them? 22.14.01 # * gevaerts wouldn't be entirely surprised if the keyclicks issue and the not-playing are related 22.14.19 # and please dont say "nothing happens"...say exactly what does happen without leaving out details like the WPS shows 22.14.23 Join massiveH [0] (n=massiveH@pool-71-187-243-194.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net) 22.14.33 # I press select on the piece of music I want to listen to, in the Database view. Then the now playing screen appears and nothing happens, the time elapsed stat and the progress bar doesn't move. I then pause and restart the song with the play/pause button and it still doesn't play. 22.14.36 # Anyone agree that keyclicks should be disabled until someone fixes them? They only cause issues. 22.14.59 # And does the correct info for the song appear? 22.15.03 # Yes 22.15.06 # BigBambi, i was under the impression they were disabled by default... 22.15.26 Quit sarixe ("Ex-Chat") 22.15.27 # anyways, yeah they should be disabled 22.15.29 # Horscht: What is the point of being able to enable them if they don't work and just cause issues... 22.15.46 # I think it may be worth it to update the release for that 22.15.54 # Boopop, was this after removing it from your PC? 22.16.04 # dunno, I never noticed them to not work, because I find keyclicks anyoing anyways :) 22.16.06 # Boopop: Is it always the same type of song? e.g. format? 22.16.09 # massiveH: eh? 22.16.37 # Not quite sure BigBambi, I think I've so far only experienced it with mp3s, but I might be wrong 22.16.40 # BigBambi, I sometimes have it not playback songs (mp3) when disconnecting from PC and trying to play sometihng, I need to reboot to get it to play 22.17.02 # any song, not just the one I just placed on my player (H340) 22.17.08 Quit Boopop ("CGI:IRC") 22.17.12 Join EleminoP [0] (n=EleminoP@70-14-247-238.area3.spcsdns.net) 22.17.15 # Can we all try and avoid using "it" and instead be specific? It would be a lot less confusing 22.17.20 # massiveH: it's certainly not that on ipod 22.17.30 # * gevaerts apologises to BigBambi 22.17.36 Part EleminoP 22.17.54 # gevaerts: :P I meant in any remotely non-clear way :) 22.19.37 Join jhulst [0] (n=jhulst@unaffiliated/jhulst) 22.19.46 # BigBambi, iriver h340 22.19.54 # eh? 22.20.04 # massiveH: Are you trying to confuse me? 22.20.12 # no, it is the iriver h340 22.20.16 # What is? 22.20.21 # it 22.20.22 # the "it" 22.20.36 # * BigBambi goes away to count to ten 22.20.52 # it is not nice to be so rude to him :p 22.20.58 # +1 for disabling the keyclicks on probably all portalplayer targets (heard the problem on my c200, know of problems on Ipod, not sure about H10 or M:Robe 100 though) 22.21.04 Join mf0102 [0] (n=michi@e181130113.adsl.alicedsl.de) 22.21.27 # Horscht: I didn't mean it to be, I was aiming that at the world in general 22.21.38 # By disable, we're talking about #if 0 in the source? 22.22.03 # Yes, I was meaning completely 22.22.22 # I don't see the point in letting people enable them if they don't work and cause screeching 22.23.05 # Or Mr Someone can fix it... 22.23.10 # anyways, I don't seem to be able to re-create Boobops issue on my Ipod 80GB 5.5G 22.23.19 # interesting enough, he left already, though 22.23.36 # linuxstb: Heh. I was working on the assumption that that may not happen for a while :) 22.24.02 Quit jeffdameth1 (Connection timed out) 22.25.11 # I am not using release 3, though. I am running rev 18800 22.25.59 Join aarcane [0] (n=aarcane@adsl-99-154-145-70.dsl.scrm01.sbcglobal.net) 22.26.16 # pondlife asked about disabling keyclicks on portalplayer again (since he has a c200 as well and could hear it), he invented them I believe... 22.27.04 # it = the beep of death ;) 22.27.26 # Bagder: I think the new ipod bootloaders and ipodpatchers in FS9369 are good to go 22.27.29 # i'd disable "them" until "they" ar fixed 22.27.39 Join Thundercloud [0] (n=thunderc@cpc1-hem18-0-0-cust660.lutn.cable.ntl.com) 22.29.15 # n1s: the 30 sep ones you put there? 22.29.39 # Bagder: yes, anf the ipodpatchers further down 22.29.44 # s/anf/and 22.29.50 # ok 22.30.14 # you know what the version number is of the existing ipod bootloaders? 22.30.27 # * gevaerts wants Bagder's opinion on whether the keyclicks issue is serious enough for a 3.0.x update 22.30.39 # * Llorean thinks it is. 22.30.41 # the ones on the download server are v2.0 now (ipodpatcher is also v2.0 22.30.59 # n1s: ok, I'm creating a "2.0" subdir and move them into that then, just in case 22.31.09 # the new ones are v3.0 (both bootloaders and patchers 22.31.11 Quit {phoenix} (Remote closed the connection) 22.31.16 # Bagder: good idea 22.32.23 # n1s: Can you also upload all the bootloaders in a bootloaders.zip file? The ipodpatcher build instructions refer to it existing, but it seems to have disappeared from the download server (or some of them...) 22.32.29 # Bagder: How do I tag a version as 3.0.1? 22.32.46 Quit massiveH ("Leaving") 22.32.54 # linuxstb: ok 22.32.57 # IIRC pondlife also looked into fixing the keyclick issue but seems he wasn't successfull 22.33.02 # amiconn: you do svn cp of the dir to tags/v3.0.1 22.33.15 # ? 22.33.17 # I can do that 22.33.48 # I've just committed yet another change to the branch (necessary for proper warning about outdated flash images) 22.33.57 Join massiveH [0] (n=massiveH@pool-71-187-243-194.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net) 22.34.17 Join saratoga2 [0] (n=9803c264@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-3e11d14a2a1f3cd5) 22.34.17 # and that's the current one we want taggde then? 22.34.17 # linuxstb, Bagder should I add that zip to the task too? 22.34.18 # But when I build now, I get r18817-3.0-081015 instead of r18817-3.0.1-081015 22.34.30 # n1s: sure, that's the easiest 22.34.41 # I think so - but there's that discussion about PP keyclick... 22.34.51 # ah right 22.34.55 # Ah, good idea - we could disable it in 3.0.1... 22.35.16 # Not sure how long that will take though - and I want to get this flash stuff out the door... 22.35.48 Join BeChris [0] (n=51fbed92@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-1f7497f64559fa4c) 22.35.48 # Bagder: added 22.36.07 # Bagder: any chance of that front page update i've agitated for? 22.36.33 # Is this the "beep" setting? 22.36.38 # Hello everybody 22.37.04 # * amiconn wonders what to do now 22.38.43 # n1s: they're all present on the download master server now 22.39.08 # Bagder: great! :) now on to the other targets :) 22.39.33 # linuxstb: no, "Keyclick" in "General settings > System". Beep is a beep on track change I believe 22.40.01 # pixelma: Ah yes, I see it.... 22.40.12 # you know, you could always push the bootloaders as 3.0.1 and push the keyclick fix back to 3.0.2 22.40.13 # Seems there is no #define already in place for it though... 22.40.42 # perhaps add a new "known issue" to the documentation 22.41.02 # This keyclick is useless at best... because it's way out of sync with the actual keypresses 22.41.19 Join funman [0] (n=fun@86.219.29.237) 22.41.37 # amiconn: You're thinking about just getting rid of it on all targets? 22.41.51 Join lasser [0] (n=chatzill@Wba9e.w.pppool.de) 22.42.12 # dany_21a_: hi, I see you started working on the e200v2 port ? ;) 22.42.18 # I'm thinking that we should probably remove it for all targets as a 3.0.1, and replace it with a working version in the trunk. This requires rework of the pcm output, I think 22.42.35 # Something that would be good for other things as well, e.g. working voice while paused 22.44.09 # ameyer: the bootloader versions are in fact independent from rockbox version and each other :) 22.44.34 # * amiconn is tempted to tag the current branch revision as 3.0.1 and build it, in order to be able to proceed with the flashing stuff 22.44.49 # But then the keyclick thing would need to become 3.0.2 afaiu 22.45.04 # amiconn: would that be the end of the world? 22.45.11 # amiconn: should I build bootloaders for other targets from the same rev of the branch as i did for the ipods or should i go with the latest? 22.45.32 # I don't think it matters 22.45.43 # Did you check what changes went into the branch since then? 22.45.49 # no 22.46.33 Part przemhb 22.47.27 Quit massiveH ("Leaving") 22.47.37 # amiconn: yes, those changes seem unrelated 22.48.36 Quit mf0102 (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 22.48.38 # * Bagder added "tag the release" to ReleaseChecklist 22.48.50 # Haha, the "3.0" partt in svnversion.sh is hardcoded... 22.49.26 # hey funman 22.49.58 # just experimenting a bit with it - but i think i made some progress... not on the programming side, but on the analysing side :) 22.50.06 # amiconn: yes, since the script doesn't have any fine means to add it otherwise 22.50.09 # cool ! 22.50.15 # currently dumping the content of the masked rom onto my PC 22.50.33 # how are you transferring the data ? 22.50.37 # So I just committed a change for this and now I'm able to build the 3.0.1 binaries for archos 22.50.48 # this might help you with Flash-access initialization and stuff, bec. the PROM has to do this already 22.51.24 # The only way I imagined was dumping the content on the NAND .. but it requires having access to the NAND first .. 22.51.25 # I guess we make the source archive on the download page to be the 3.0.1 even if the 3.0.1 isn't for all targets 22.51.29 # how? i used that (or similiar) technic once on a other project: blinking the data out with the leds :) 22.52.04 # and sampling it with my soundcard....a pythonscript is "listening" to it and generates the dump out of it 22.52.17 # are you going to blink for each of the 131072 bytes ? 22.52.45 # LED blinking is fun ;) 22.52.51 # its rather slow (about 1KiB per minute), but we have to to it just once 22.53.01 # it's cool ! 22.53.16 # amiconn: yeah :) and also sounds funny - already have an headache from the buzzing noise 22.53.22 # but I don't understand how you convert the light signal with your soundcard 22.53.33 # * ameyer guesses optical-in 22.53.44 # did you solder the led to the card ? 22.53.51 # ameyer: no 22.54.04 # amiconn: I added a mention of the svnversion.sh edit on the releasechecklist - for next time ;-) 22.54.12 # goodie 22.54.23 # just a serial resistor (abou 10k) directly from the led to the line in - this is the signal i get: http://www.flickr.com/photos/90053035@N00/2945409122/ 22.55.26 # dany_21a_: You could use the good old biphase code the old homecomputers used for cassette tape storage 22.55.29 # i use a very simple protocol.... pulswidth-encoded, a frame(=32bit) starts with a long puls, than 0/1 is coded with a shorter/shortest puls 22.55.59 # It would allow ~1kbit/s. Still not that great though 22.56.30 # the first completed dump just finished... took about 10mins - so no great problem 22.56.41 # complete = the whole ROM ? 22.56.54 # will dump it three times, to ensure to detect/recover errors 22.57.06 # jep, 128kB... so its actually 10KiB/min 22.57.23 # That's not too bad 22.57.26 # dany_21a_: can you send me your first dump please? 22.57.27 # Maybe also calculate a checksum? 22.57.46 # dany_21a_: Maybe use a crc function.... rockbox has a nice compact crc32 routine 22.58.01 # funman: k.. just gave it a quick look in the disasm, looks nice :) 22.58.09 # ;) 22.58.17 Quit domonoky (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 22.58.40 # maybe we can now also detect a other way for invoking recovery mode (or find one at all for non e200 devices) 22.59.11 # I kinda lost hope for the non-e200, but maybe the ClipV2 has it enabled 22.59.45 # code also looks compiler-generated, again a big task to disasm it i guess 22.59.55 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 23.00.09 # dany_21a_: is it using thumb mode? 23.00.34 # I already know what I'm looking for so it should be quicker than full analysis 23.00.55 # Bagder: asfar as i can see: now 23.00.56 # no 23.01.51 Join karashata [0] (n=kimi@69.41.192.215) 23.01.54 Join fml [0] (n=4fd3f7c0@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-1b1b11cd61dbcede) 23.03.09 # petur: hey! Have you seen the discussion about merging two recording settings? (Rec channels and mono mode) I wonder how difficult it would be. It seems quite a few places must be touched. 23.03.36 # nope 23.03.54 Quit reacocard (".") 23.03.59 # petur: you implemented the mono mode feature so you should have a good feeling 23.04.22 # I had thought about implementing it directly that way but did it this way after some thinking 23.04.26 # hmm, new bootloader on cfmodded ipod mini doesn't seem to handle usb properly... 23.04.27 # petur: yesterday, 20:43 23.04.38 # mostly, this way was the easiest ;) 23.04.46 # * petur goes reading logs 23.05.05 # ameyer: when plugging USB while Rockbox is running? 23.05.34 # ameyer: ipod bootloaders don't handle usb at all 23.05.35 # petur: and then 20:46 23.06.39 # well, it no longer actually reboots into the ipod firmware] 23.07.35 Quit m0f0x (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 23.07.40 # have to hold menu&select for about 10s to get it to boot into the apple firmware 23.07.59 # then again, the old bootloader that had cf issues worked for me o_O 23.07.59 Join massiveH [0] (n=massiveH@ool-44c48a1e.dyn.optonline.net) 23.08.15 # * n1s wants someone to test a new bootloader on a gigabeat f now ;) 23.08.29 # (the above is on a mini 2g) 23.08.49 # ameyer: is this while you are inside rockbox? 23.08.55 # yes 23.09.01 # s/inside/running/ 23.09.25 # ameyer: then the bootloader should have nothing to do with it 23.09.31 # ameyer: What exactly happens when you insert the USB cable? 23.09.35 # n1s: I can test if you link me, or do you mean SVN (which I can also do) 23.09.45 Quit karashata ("I go, only to return again some time...") 23.09.48 # BigBambi: http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/9369?getfile=17652 23.10.46 # linuxstb: usb plug graphic comes up, fades to a blank screen 23.11.06 # ameyer: That sounds like a known Rockbox bug - nothing to do with the bootloader version 23.11.07 # n1s: Just check it works? 23.11.21 # BigBambi: also I'm curious if it actually displays the version "3.0" while booting the old one seemed to be displaying some svn rev number 23.11.32 # BigBambi: yes 23.11.54 # OK, I'm just looking for my F :) 23.12.06 # linuxstb: it worked before the new bootloader 23.12.09 Join bertrik [0] (n=bertrik@ip117-49-211-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl) 23.12.21 # ameyer: With the exact same version of Rockbox? 23.12.25 # ameyer: with the _exact_ same rockbox build? 23.12.31 # I think so? 23.12.32 # * n1s is too slow 23.12.56 # ameyer: This is a bug that (as far as we can tell) comes and goes randomly with different Rockbox builds. 23.13.00 # * ameyer will go back to the old bootloader once he manages to get it into disk mode 23.14.22 # n1s: That does *not* work 23.14.35 # ok, the old bootloader does it too 23.14.44 # perhaps I did upgrade the build 23.14.50 # As it comes to the end of the toshiba boot screen it has frozen and the screen has got some static on it 23.15.11 # Now it has faded to white 23.15.44 Join m0f0x [0] (n=m0f0x@189-47-15-168.dsl.telesp.net.br) 23.15.56 # Looks like I'll be opening the F to do the recovery thing on it :) 23.16.51 # BigBambi: ah, badness I hope i doesn't bring too much trouble for you... (if you want to debug though, the earlier gbf bootloader in that thread seemed to work) 23.17.15 # n1s: er, oops 23.17.21 # I downloaded the wrong one :) 23.17.28 # I'll recover and try the latest 23.17.46 # * fml is scared by the changes implied by merging two recording settings and steps back 23.18.02 Join karashata [0] (n=kimi@69.41.192.215) 23.18.04 # aha, the first one is indeed broken (hmm maybe i should delete those...) 23.18.30 # Maybe eliminating the 'Custom' channels setting would be easier? 23.19.35 # sorry about the ipod bootloader false alarm. 23.21.23 # n1s: OK, the proper one works fine :) 23.21.36 # BigBambi: great! :) 23.21.54 # AND IT DISPLAYS VERSION 3.0 AS WELL 23.22.01 # er, sorry 23.22.16 # BigBambi: nice, and loud and clear as well ;) 23.22.30 # hehe :) 23.22.33 # Bagder: could you upload the new gigabeat f bootloader too? (same thread, at the bottom) 23.23.18 Join sarixe [0] (n=sarixe@ool-435407e9.dyn.optonline.net) 23.23.58 # is it ok to publish the content of the sansa e200v2 ROM , or could it bring legal problems ? 23.25.13 # n1s: you know the version of the former gigabeatf bootloader? 23.25.33 # funman: it's their code and we/you have no permission to distribute 23.26.02 # but I wouldn't mind hosting it on my site 23.26.21 # dany_21a_ wanted to put it on the git repositorhy 23.26.39 # you of course do as you please with that 23.26.53 # Bagder: I don't think it had a proper version, i found an svn rev number in the one on the server so i just went with 3.0 for that one too 23.27.06 # ok 23.27.10 # funman, you mean the contents of the internal ROM, with the built-in bootloader? 23.27.58 # bertrik: yes this one, did you read the recent log ? 23.28.14 # n1s: updated now 23.28.25 # Bagder: thanks 23.28.26 # no (was too busy getting my laptop to work again after a botched update/upgrade) 23.28.31 # hurrah to dany_21a_ for dumping it ! 23.30.03 # thx - i hope its usefull... i will (atleast) but the code for sending/reciving into the git 23.30.42 # dany_21a_: well I think if it's for research purpose you can push it 23.30.50 # * Bagder would prefer seeing your work going into our svn instead 23.30.53 # if they have a problem with that they can ask to remove it 23.31.15 # Bagder: the gigabeat F bootloader seems to be r13224, but it doesn't show a cleaned-up version number 23.31.42 # gevaerts: ok, thanks. I stuffed it into a "2.0" folder just to look similar to the old ipod bootloaders 23.31.54 # Bagder: for the first step I will put it in the GIT - actually, it shouldn be that usefull (for the sansaV2-port) anyfurther... and has some _very_ rough edges :) 23.32.13 # *shouldnt 23.32.16 # dany_21a_: still, people read commit mails and read code in svn, not the code you hide in the git repo 23.32.29 # it doesn't mean it has to work or be sensible yet 23.32.42 # it's not really hidden, it's mentioned in the forum thread 23.32.54 # it is hidden to the vast majority of rockbox hackers 23.33.12 # And commits on the front page is an excellent advert for the port... 23.33.18 # that too 23.33.20 Quit karashata ("I go, only to return again some time...") 23.33.34 # as long as it doesn't brick anything or affect existing supported targets, I'd say commit it 23.35.02 Quit dabujo ("( www.nnscript.com :: NoNameScript 4.2 :: www.regroup-esports.com )") 23.35.07 # * amiconn wonders why we're offering 8MB builds for fm recorder and recorder v1. but not for v2, player, or Ondios 23.35.11 Quit fml ("CGI:IRC") 23.35.20 # * linuxstb is waiting for someone to post a e200v2 patch (and the other targets)... 23.35.21 # amiconn: just historic reasons 23.35.42 # and I've never even heard of a 8mb ondio 23.36.02 # well, that 8MB thing is for people who put an 8MB ram chip in there, and removed the 4MB 23.36.05 # Yeah, not very likely that someone did the 8MB mod on an Ondio 23.36.20 # can you do that to the v2, player, and ondio? 23.36.23 # massiveH: s/4MB/2MB/ 23.36.23 # massiveH: 8 instead of 2 23.36.45 # sorry, been too long, 2MB, sorry, my recorder v1 has much dust since I got an iriver 23.36.52 # massiveH: Yes. The core hardware (CPU, ROM, RAM) is the same on all archoses 23.37.07 # Bagder: Do you have any download stats for 3.0? 23.37.23 # no, as they're all downloaded off others' servers 23.37.34 # I thought 25% were on your server... 23.37.42 # And the v2 is even identical to the fm recorder except that the tuner might not be present on the PCB (early v2's even had the tuner mounted) 23.37.58 # the master download server is not included in the round robin 23.38.04 # amiconn, did anyone ever mod those? or was it just the few that did it to the v1? 23.38.06 # it is just there for the other 3 to sync from 23.38.16 # Bagder: Ah... What an easy life it has. 23.38.47 # indeed! 23.38.54 # i just noticed the GigabeatFJTAG wiki page 23.39.52 # amiconn: how hard would it be to detect ram size and adapt to it on startup instead of offering separate builds (IIRC this was discussed on devcon last year and would also affect ipod videos)? 23.39.56 # saratoga2: did you start using jtag on your Fuze ? 23.40.41 # n1s, I think it needed to be defined on the archos v1 recorder because the hardware didn't report the size of the bank 23.41.03 # funman: not yet, just looked at software 23.41.13 # n1s: It would need the mentioned memory layout shuffling, in order to make the plugin ram (and codec ram for swcodec) fixed regardless of memory size 23.41.53 # amiconn: would that be more difficult than a bit of lds hacking? 23.41.59 # massiveH: That's not correct. There are ways to figure out the ram size without any ID registers 23.41.59 Quit BeChris ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 23.42.22 # amiconn, I did not know that. 23.42.27 # n1s: Yes, since the rockbox binary is loaded at the beginning of the RAM. It would need to split itself 23.42.39 # It would also need to do the ram size probing 23.42.54 # (i.e. write some magic values and check for the aliases) 23.43.42 # amiconn: why split? couldn't the bootloader just load it to a position after the codec and plugin buffers? 23.44.13 # It would still need to split itself because of the vectors 23.44.30 # And how would the bootloader know which type of rockbox binary it is loading? 23.44.37 # Also what about old bootloaders? 23.45.51 # they would break? :P I was just curious, I'm not about to dive into this but would try to make it backwards compatible if i do 23.45.54 Join m0f0x_ [0] (n=m0f0x@189-47-28-39.dsl.telesp.net.br) 23.46.51 Quit m0f0x (Nick collision from services.) 23.46.53 Nick m0f0x_ is now known as m0f0x (n=m0f0x@189-47-28-39.dsl.telesp.net.br) 23.47.40 Quit aarcane ("Leaving") 23.49.48 # Bagder: do you have stats about the retrieved -info files from rbutil? Should be easy to recognize now it has its own user-agent string ... 23.50.50 # well, I think rbutil is the only one that downloads that file at all 23.50.54 Quit tvelocity[a] (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 23.51.24 # hmm, true. But you could figure how many old versions are still in use ;-) 23.52.32 # build-info was downloaded 131K times during September and 80K times so far in October 23.53.11 Quit bertrik (Remote closed the connection) 23.53.20 # funman: just emailed Karl asking him about his JTAG work on the Gigabeat 23.53.56 # saratoga: nice, hope it's not too difficult to setup ;) 23.54.15 # no i don't think it is 23.54.29 # though i need to figure out how to make one of these JTAG plugs since eventually I want to try it on the V1 sansa as well 23.55.08 # i see karl uses openocd for repogramming the Gigabeat, so thats probbaly a good choice for us 23.55.32 # http://www.junauza.com/2008/10/15-rockin-rockbox-themes-for-ipod.html 23.55.54 # that's quite a number 23.56.12 # i wish i'd thought to do this a long time ago, instead of digging through registers via trial and error 23.56.18 # for the PP targets 23.56.24 # * bluebrother should get around getting that JTAG 23.57.02 # Bagder: is your offer to let me borrow that V1 sansa with JTAG soldered in still good? 23.57.12 # indeed! 23.57.14 # Bagder: Wow... I don't actually like *any* of those themes. :) 23.57.21 # hehe 23.57.31 # but we've got 1100+ referes from that page so far... 23.57.44 # what players do we know how to connect a JTAG to? 23.58.02 # Nice to know that rockbox is mainly good for themes 23.58.16 # and doom of course 23.58.21 # bluebrother: sansa V1,V2 and gigabeat that i know of