--- Log for 07.11.108 Server: zelazny.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 5 days and 8 hours ago 00.00.05 Quit petur ("Zzzzz") 00.00.55 # denes_: check out http://github.com/planetbeing/iphonelinux/tree/master/trunk/openiboot/ftl.c 00.02.09 Quit Schmogel (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 00.02.17 # denes_: So it looks for the magic in the first pages, and also the DEVICEINFOBBT thing in the last blocks of each bank. 00.02.47 Join jhulst [0] (n=jhulst@unaffiliated/jhulst) 00.07.20 Quit reacocard (".") 00.11.31 Quit Zarggg_ () 00.11.54 Join Zarggg [0] (n=zarggg@65-78-69-194.c3-0.eas-ubr6.atw-eas.pa.cable.rcn.com) 00.13.36 Quit bertrik ("Leaving") 00.16.02 Join funman [0] (n=fun@AAnnecy-257-1-19-179.w90-28.abo.wanadoo.fr) 00.16.43 # I found the source of my crashes: bss isn't cleared entirely 00.17.01 Quit Acknix (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 00.17.40 # tick_funcs , threads, cores, and lcd_framebuffer are past the '_end' limit defined in as3525/boot.lds and used in crt0.S 00.18.43 Quit massiveH ("Leaving") 00.23.43 # they seem to be in common 00.29.46 # common needs to go into .bss of course 00.30.01 # a few linker scripts mention it 00.30.13 # Check some other target's .lds files (e.g. imx31/boot.lds) 00.30.42 # i did, but shouldn't _all_ targets .lds use it ? 00.31.09 # example: sandisk/boot.lds 00.31.36 # ehum.... 00.31.38 # which surely was the example i copied 00.31.57 # * amiconn thinks funman spotted a fundamental bug in several ports 00.32.09 # that they're not written in java? 00.32.14 # :) 00.32.51 Quit bmbl ("Woah!") 00.33.10 # that surely explains the bug vitja had - a commit in completely unrelated code breaking a few targets 00.33.37 # * amiconn wonders whether this is the cause of the usb reboot bug on PP... 00.33.51 # while on the subject of .lds files, what is the difference between specifying STARTUP(crt0.o) in the lds file and putting it on the linker command line among all other object files? 00.33.55 # ipod also doesn't put common into .bss 00.37.24 # Hmm, this bug seems to only affect boot.lds (of various targets) 00.37.48 # archos FM radio disappearing ? 00.38.08 # huh? 00.38.32 # well just thinking about weird bugs 00.39.01 # There is no such bug. Maybe you mean Sansa (v1)? 00.40.08 # FS#2660 00.40.10 # there is an old bug report for this in the tracker and someone asked yesterday if this and the radio disappearing on c200 (maybe e200 too) are basically the same 00.40.22 Quit HBK () 00.40.29 Quit skipper ("Leaving") 00.40.38 # it's the oldest bug listed 00.42.43 # Well, archos app.lds does include common 00.43.13 # is app.lds for the bootloadeD firmware ? 00.43.23 Quit jhMikeS (Nick collision from services.) 00.43.29 Join jhMikeS [50] (n=jethead7@rockbox/developer/jhMikeS) 00.43.29 # And there is no boot.lds, as there is no (mandatory) rockbox bootloader on archos 00.43.32 Quit kronflux ("Leaving") 00.44.51 Join skipper [0] (n=skipper@93-138-73-3.adsl.net.t-com.hr) 00.45.54 # Eh, there is a (correct) boot.lds 00.50.48 Quit Zagor ("Client exiting") 00.51.59 Quit Zarggg () 00.52.58 Quit culture (Remote closed the connection) 00.53.03 Quit Nico_P (Remote closed the connection) 00.53.19 Quit robin0800 (Connection timed out) 00.57.00 Quit esthar (zelazny.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 00.57.00 NSplit zelazny.freenode.net irc.freenode.net 00.57.00 Quit Thundercloud (zelazny.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 00.57.00 Quit kugel (zelazny.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 00.57.00 Quit Horscht (zelazny.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 00.57.00 Quit faemir (zelazny.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 00.57.00 Quit miepchen^schlaf (zelazny.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 00.57.00 Quit amiconn (zelazny.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 00.57.00 Quit GodEater (zelazny.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 00.57.00 Quit shodanX (zelazny.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 00.57.00 Quit Jabone (zelazny.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 00.57.00 Quit desowin_ (zelazny.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 00.57.00 Quit Tuplanolla (zelazny.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 00.57.00 Quit BlakeJohnson86 (zelazny.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 00.57.00 Quit Shiny (zelazny.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 00.57.00 Quit HellDragon (zelazny.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 00.57.31 Quit swimmer (Client Quit) 00.58.22 NHeal zelazny.freenode.net irc.freenode.net 00.58.22 NJoin esthar [0] (n=esthar@student165-170.hampshire.edu) 00.58.22 NJoin Thundercloud [0] (n=thunderc@cpc1-hem18-0-0-cust660.lutn.cable.ntl.com) 00.58.22 NJoin kugel [0] (n=chatzill@unaffiliated/kugel) 00.58.22 NJoin Horscht [0] (n=Horscht@xbmc/user/horscht) 00.58.22 NJoin faemir [0] (n=quassel@88-106-238-33.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) 00.58.22 NJoin miepchen^schlaf [0] (n=miepchen@p579ECC81.dip.t-dialin.net) 00.58.22 NJoin amiconn [50] (n=jens@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 00.58.22 NJoin GodEater [0] (i=c2cbc962@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-913d56d284fc5502) 00.58.22 NJoin shodanX [0] (n=shodanX@jazz.informatik.uni-erlangen.de) 00.58.22 NJoin HellDragon [0] (n=jd@Wikipedia/HellDragon) 00.58.22 NJoin Shiny [0] (n=brenda@209-20-76-6.slicehost.net) 00.58.22 NJoin BlakeJohnson86 [0] (n=bjohnson@c-24-118-162-123.hsd1.mn.comcast.net) 00.58.22 NJoin Jabone [0] (i=jpylvana@157.24.184.130) 00.58.22 NJoin Tuplanolla [0] (n=jani@unaffiliated/tuplanolla) 00.58.22 NJoin desowin_ [0] (n=desowin@72.37.225.164) 00.59.46 Quit amiconn (" HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- In tests, 0x09 out of 0x0A l33t h4x0rz prefer it :)") 01.00.04 Join amiconn [0] (n=jens@p54BD78F1.dip.t-dialin.net) 01.00.20 Quit Thundercloud (Remote closed the connection) 01.00.31 Join culture [0] (n=none@cpc1-bele3-0-0-cust658.belf.cable.ntl.com) 01.00.40 Join Thundercloud [0] (n=thunderc@cpc1-hem18-0-0-cust660.lutn.cable.ntl.com) 01.03.06 Join HBK [0] (i=hbk@pool-71-96-74-73.dfw.dsl-w.verizon.net) 01.05.18 # funman: Only arm targets are actually affected: as3525, ipod, iriver, olympus, philips, sandisk. Shall I fix it? (The archos self-extractor also has the bug, but it doesn't cause problems there. I'd fix it as well of course) 01.05.57 # yes please, i don't know much about linker scripts and sections, i preferred to ask you 01.07.31 Join mofux [0] (n=quassel@dslb-088-072-140-053.pools.arcor-ip.net) 01.09.24 Join mc2739 [0] (n=mc2739@cpe-67-10-238-175.satx.res.rr.com) 01.12.13 # weird .. the OF mentions a reference clock of 64MHz (supposedly the peripheral clock but it is running at 24MHz) 01.14.20 # ok .. if i use the OF controller init, my sd_init_card() works fine 01.14.38 # i'll replace the OF functions one by one and and see 01.15.17 # hmm .. no i'm misreading the results - the function crashes :o 01.15.45 Quit Bensawsome ("The awsome is gone :(") 01.15.46 # or deadlocks (i must surely disable the interrupts) 01.16.24 Quit skipper (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 01.16.27 Quit HBK () 01.18.51 Join skipper [0] (n=skipper@93-136-13-11.adsl.net.t-com.hr) 01.18.58 Quit faemir (Connection timed out) 01.19.25 Quit funman ("leaving") 01.21.06 Nick JdGordon|zzz is now known as JdGordon (n=jonno@rockbox/developer/JdGordon) 01.24.43 Quit markun ("leaving") 01.25.03 Quit Thundercloud (Remote closed the connection) 01.25.55 Quit n1s () 01.26.57 Quit saratoga ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 01.27.49 Join Bensawsome [0] (n=Bensawso@unaffiliated/bensawsome) 01.29.21 Join skipper_ [0] (n=skipper@93-138-95-99.adsl.net.t-com.hr) 01.30.16 Join HBK [0] (i=hbk@pool-71-96-74-73.dfw.dsl-w.verizon.net) 01.31.44 Quit ajonat () 01.37.19 Quit MethoS- (Remote closed the connection) 01.37.41 Join MethoS- [0] (n=clemens@host-091-097-243-200.ewe-ip-backbone.de) 01.38.58 Join jpt9_ [0] (n=jpt9@weepinbell-60.dynamic.rpi.edu) 01.39.11 Nick jpt9_ is now known as jpt9 (n=jpt9@weepinbell-60.dynamic.rpi.edu) 01.39.11 # Hey. 01.39.20 # Are you guys working on a port to the Sansa Clip? I noticed there's a simulator. 01.39.53 Quit MethoS- (Remote closed the connection) 01.41.01 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 01.46.25 Quit skipper (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 01.50.07 Quit kugel ("ChatZilla 0.9.83 [Firefox 3.0.3/2008101315]") 01.51.03 # no, no the simulator is just for themeing game boy advance emulators 01.51.45 # jpt9: yes, there is a port in the works for the clip. Here is the forum thread for it - http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=14064.0 01.52.09 # does it actually run on the devices? I couldn't find any daily builds. 01.52.23 Quit krazykit ("hungry") 01.52.36 # (Just so you know, I have a Sansa e250R that's happily Rockboxed. The Sansa Clip is so freaking *cute* that I might get one just as another rockbox device!) 01.53.02 # there are no builds yet 01.53.06 Quit Bensawsome ("The awsome is gone :(") 01.53.16 # not that work, at least 01.53.47 # ah. 01.54.25 # Rockbox rocks, in case you haven't heard :-) 01.54.39 Join Bensawsome [0] (n=Bensawso@unaffiliated/bensawsome) 01.54.41 # * jpt9 would love a full-screen SDL-powered version for PCs. 01.54.54 Quit lasser (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 01.55.06 # (With the ability to redirect the file browser to another directory...) 02.01.10 # * jpt9 is horribly confused as to the key mapping on the clip simulator... 02.04.15 Quit culture (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 02.04.39 Join funman [0] (n=fun@AAnnecy-257-1-19-179.w90-28.abo.wanadoo.fr) 02.04.57 # jpt9: the simulator is here so someone can start working on keymaps :) 02.05.05 # ah. 02.05.18 # yeah... they mapped both volume and prev/next track to left and right :-) 02.05.22 # wait a sec... 02.05.25 # i'm an idiot. 02.05.53 # Doesn't the clip have dedicated volume controls? 02.06.03 # i just copied the keys from the e200, changing scroll wheel into prev/next 02.06.05 # yes it has 02.06.46 # ah. 02.07.31 # Once there's a working build with a reasonable chance that it wouldn't brick the device, I'd be glad to get a Clip and help you guys test it. 02.08.08 # if you already know rockbox and want to work on the key bindings, that's more helpful IMO 02.09.06 # a lot of people come here or on the forum to help testing, but there is nothing to test, and everything to write 02.09.12 # ah. 02.10.36 Quit Bensawsome ("The awsome is gone :(") 02.11.06 Join swimmer [0] (i=swimmer@xs7.xs4all.nl) 02.11.12 # and the tool we use has 'a reasonable chance to not brick your device' since I must have ran it 1000+ times ;) 02.11.52 # Note that it hasn't been tested yet (and probably wouldn't work without a few modifications) on the Clipv2 (maybe it's the new 8GB Clip) 02.12.37 # there's an 8GB clip? 02.14.01 # http://anythingbutipod.com/forum/showthread.php?t=36013 02.15.04 # funman: you got sd working? 02.15.40 Quit swimmer (Client Quit) 02.15.51 Join swimmer [0] (i=swimmer@xs7.xs4all.nl) 02.16.01 # JdGordon: no, if i insert my code after the OF init it's stuck while sending commands 02.16.17 # the CmdActive bit stays high 02.16.21 Quit jhulst (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 02.16.22 Quit XavierGr () 02.16.31 # :( ok, i tohugh i read you had in the logs 02.16.42 # i spoke too fast, like always :) 02.16.43 # couple more days and ill have time to help out properly 02.17.00 # cool :) 02.22.37 # just updated rbutil... Yay! I can make my own voice files. 02.22.46 # * jpt9 's Sansa will have a British accent! 02.32.36 Join jhulst [0] (n=jhulst@unaffiliated/jhulst) 02.34.25 # ok .. I forgot unaligned memory access is bad on arm 02.35.21 # so if I use the OF init and my own init_card, it fails equally than if i use my own init 02.35.32 # so I suppose the 'missing bit' is in this init_card function 02.35.50 # An issue I didn't ever think about before reading http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=7343 02.37.15 # Should we request that only the original author of a WPS upload it to the wiki? Don't we need to "hold someone responsible" for the claims of the attached license? And if so, who do we hold if X supposedly authors one and Y uploads it? 02.43.41 # Y distributed it, so Y 02.44.10 # Probably rare enough to not be much of an issue 02.44.50 Quit crculver ("Leaving") 02.49.32 Quit funman ("leaving") 02.50.09 Join Zarggg [0] (n=zarggg@65-78-69-194.c3-0.eas-ubr6.atw-eas.pa.cable.rcn.com) 02.53.52 Nick skipper_ is now known as SKIPPER (n=skipper@93-138-95-99.adsl.net.t-com.hr) 02.54.10 Nick SKIPPER is now known as skipper (n=skipper@93-138-95-99.adsl.net.t-com.hr) 02.54.24 Quit mofux (Remote closed the connection) 02.54.53 # so what's wrong with my build server? 02.55.07 # * jpt9 is enjoying his newly generated .talk files. 02.55.13 # Rockbox is amazing. 02.55.36 # I have no clue what I'll do if my Rockboxed Sansa e250R v1 ever breaks... 02.57.51 Join BHSPitMonkey [0] (n=stephen@unaffiliated/bhspitmonkey) 02.59.11 # lostlogic: we arnt sure... Bagder said he manually did a build and it was fine, but it seems to die doing a regular build 02.59.19 # s/we/they 02.59.33 Quit skipper (Remote closed the connection) 02.59.48 # the broken player builds on http://build.rockbox.org/dev.cgi are form your server 03.02.07 Join Bensawsome [0] (n=Bensawso@unaffiliated/bensawsome) 03.02.21 # funman: (for the logs) http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/9532 - buttons for the e200v2 (the currently known buttons - still lookin for hold, rec, volume up, volume down) 03.02.23 Join markun [50] (n=markun@rockbox/developer/markun) 03.03.26 # JdGordon: yeah, I see 'em 03.04.01 # am rebuilding my gcc-sh just for shits 03.05.55 # mc2739: you got them working? 03.07.43 # yes, I had them working once before, but lost the changes when I did a revert 03.08.23 # whats with the _PIN() |= 1 lines? 03.09.23 # also, sholdnt the afsel value be read first and then restored after instead of using those hardcoded values incase they change later? 03.09.26 Part pixelma 03.09.41 Join pixelma2 [0] (n=marianne@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 03.09.48 # that gpio is used for display, without forcing them to 1 first, the button read was very inconsistent 03.09.48 # .. and last one.. the DIR's arnt put back how they were? 03.09.55 Quit jhulst (Remote closed the connection) 03.10.13 Join massiveH [0] (n=massiveH@pool-71-187-243-194.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net) 03.11.58 # 1) I just used the afsel values from the lcd code, 2) the dir should probably be read and put back, but it did not seem to make a difference 03.13.25 # If I remember correctly, the original code I had saved both afsel and dir and then restored them before returning 03.14.46 Join lardmaster [0] (n=477b5dc3@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-561046b17ae19077) 03.15.25 # The wiki says rockbox supports aac/mp4 playback, but I have heard elsewere it doesn't work, and it doesnt work when i try. 03.16.09 # mc2739: yeah, that sounds better, even if it doesnt change anything 03.16.17 # it might later with iterupts? 03.16.35 # ok - let me add that in and test 03.16.36 # lardmaster: aac should work fine... you did a full install? 03.17.00 # mc2739: also, put that code inside button_int() 03.17.27 # I meant mp4 videos with aac audio 03.17.33 # I thought that was what it was referencing 03.17.47 # no, we only have mpeg-2 video 03.17.56 # ok 03.18.13 # ok, perhaps http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/FeatureComparison should be fixed? 03.18.44 # fixed where? 03.18.50 # It says it supports mp4's 03.18.54 # * mp4s 03.18.54 # Advanced Audio Codec is Mpeg 4 audio. 03.19.03 # you are confusing it with Mpeg 4 video. 03.19.22 # I though mp4 was a video/audio container. 03.19.26 # I see 03.21.06 # yes, my answer was not 100% accurate. the mp4 container (mepg-4 part 14) is a container which can contain audio and/or video. AAC in said container is supported. Any video in said container is not. 03.21.08 Quit Bensawsome ("I HOPE BILL GATES DIES/IS TORTURED") 03.21.43 # and even less right, AAC is Mpeg-2 part 7 :( 03.22.44 # is it possible for rockbox to play only the audio in a muxed file? 03.23.16 # that I do not know, actually. 03.24.33 # for wmv file I think we do 03.25.00 # is there any tool to download album art based on folder names and place the bmp file in there? 03.29.05 # drifting off-topic for this channel, but I am not aware of a single-step program of such type. You are facing multiple issues - 1st being that folder.jpg is the unofficial Windows standard for album art in folders, and so you need to not only gather the album art, you need to convert to .bmp and to resize (at this time). 03.29.45 Nick fxb is now known as fxb__ (n=felixbru@h1252615.stratoserver.net) 03.29.57 Nick fxb__ is now known as fxb (n=felixbru@h1252615.stratoserver.net) 03.30.50 # yeah, I am just wondering how people deal with album art on rhythmbox 03.31.07 # Like there is no standard transfer method it seems. 03.32.23 Quit tyfoo2 ("Carpe diem") 03.33.00 # JdGordon: updated - http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/9532 03.33.16 # if someone wants to try reactivating player builds on my box, it might work... just reinstalled gcc-sh anyway 03.34.54 # I think it is safe to say most of us either transfer full folders of music (and therefore associated files) or use an iTunes-like solution. Obviously in the first case you now can work with the images (conversion / resizing / renaming) through scripts performed on your player's "drive". For the second scenario (moving database managed audio files around) I personally think embedded album art would be the easier way, as then you could batch extract / re 03.34.54 # name / reize / convert once said music is on your player. 03.35.46 # mc2739: ok, ill commit it in a few hours 03.36.05 # thanks 03.36.12 Join goffa_ [0] (n=goffa@216.220.23.105) 03.37.03 # soap: does rockbox work with imbedded art? 03.37.10 # lostlogic, I had sim builds failing in a similar dramatic fashion, and it turned out to be a bad stick of memory :( 03.37.13 # embedded and no 03.37.15 # lardmaster, no. 03.38.45 # mc2739: :) no I meeant put all that button reading code in button_int() not just the afsel/dir saving 03.39.37 # button_int() will eventually be setup as the button interrupt which the main build will use also 03.41.04 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 03.41.58 # ok - changing now 03.45.54 Nick fxb is now known as fxb__ (n=felixbru@h1252615.stratoserver.net) 03.47.03 Quit goffa (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 03.53.34 # JdGordon: FS#9532 - updated again 04.09.13 Quit PaulJam (".") 04.10.59 Part NotADJ 04.14.33 Join jhulst [0] (n=jhulst@unaffiliated/jhulst) 04.16.16 Join jpt9_ [0] (n=jpt9@weepinbell-60.dynamic.rpi.edu) 04.21.11 Join amiconn_ [0] (n=jens@p54BD78F1.dip.t-dialin.net) 04.21.11 Quit amiconn (Nick collision from services.) 04.22.30 # lardmaster: picard runs on pretty much every OS and can download album art based on tags. it doesn't resize/convert per rockbox's needs, however. 04.22.57 Quit Zarggg () 04.23.46 # lardmaster, there are at least two conversion tools mentioned on the AlbumArt wiki page. 04.24.17 # I guess my recurring problem is google is not leading me to the wiki 04.24.29 # Instead it give me mailing list posts... 04.24.45 # However, I have found a tool that works 04.25.28 # if said tool works (and especially if it is free) feel free to add it to either the Wiki page, or to PM me an additional paragraph to add to said wiki page. 04.25.38 # kk 04.27.38 # Ah, the tool I found is already on there 04.28.09 # 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Hrm, I'm getting an '[ERR] Partition layout is not an ipod' when trying to flash the rockbox bootloader onto my ipod. 07.09.27 # Anyone have any ideas how I can remedy this? 07.10.23 Join jhulst [0] (n=jhulst@71-10-1-149.dhcp.aldl.mi.charter.com) 07.12.07 Join Bagderr [241] (n=daniel@rockbox/developer/bagder) 07.14.31 Nick Bagderr is now known as B4gder (n=daniel@rockbox/developer/bagder) 07.17.41 Quit jpt9__ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 07.17.43 # blithe: is it a mac formatted ipod? 07.17.52 # It was, I just mkfs'd it. 07.18.08 # * blithe 's snooping leads him to believe it may be the partition table. 07.22.36 # Still no luck after an attempt at recreating the partition table. 07.23.08 # blithe: that seems to be what the error says, as well. partition tables specify a filesystem type for each partition - that is probably different for mac vs win formatted. the partition layout may differ as well. perhaps you need to find a guide for converting your ipod? 07.23.36 # Unhelpful: Aye, been looking. They all tell me to redo things with iTunes. 07.23.44 # Which I have no access to, nor any desire to use. 07.24.09 Join funman [0] (n=fun@AAnnecy-257-1-19-179.w90-28.abo.wanadoo.fr) 07.24.52 # http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IpodConversionToFAT32 07.25.26 # (and obviously skip over "The Easy Way") 07.25.40 Join LinusN [0] (n=linus@rockbox/developer/LinusN) 07.25.51 # B4gder: Awesome! Many thanks. :P 07.30.12 Quit reacocard (".") 07.33.02 # Hrm, now I'm getting a different one: [ERR] Firmware partition doesn't contain Apple copyright, aborting. 07.34.29 Join AndyIL [0] (i=AndyI@212.14.205.32) 07.41.09 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 07.45.12 Join reacocard [0] (n=reacocar@WL-112.CINE.HMC.Edu) 07.52.04 Quit miepchen^schlaf_ () 07.52.46 Quit AndyI (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 08.01.52 Quit parafin (Nick collision from services.) 08.01.59 Join parafin [0] (i=parafin@parafin.dialup.corbina.ru) 08.07.14 Quit zqrks ("Leaving") 08.12.20 Join sarixe` [0] (n=sarixe@ool-43540968.dyn.optonline.net) 08.13.31 Quit sarixe (Nick collision from services.) 08.13.36 Nick sarixe` is now known as sarixe (n=sarixe@ool-43540968.dyn.optonline.net) 08.19.33 Join ender` [0] (i=krneki@foo.eternallybored.org) 08.22.01 # i've read / rewritten most of the sansav2 OF code for SD and still can't get it ready 08.22.22 # i'm exploring alternatives like self modifying code to not have to conclude i'm too stupid for it :/ 08.22.36 # s/exploring/imagining/ 08.23.40 Join Zagor [0] (n=bjorn@rockbox/developer/Zagor) 08.25.39 Part Zagor ("Client exiting") 08.25.44 Join Zagor [0] (n=bjorn@rockbox/developer/Zagor) 08.25.45 # oops 08.27.30 Quit sarixe ("Ex-Chat") 08.30.07 # Why would self-modifying code be necessary? 08.30.59 # to serve as an excuse for me not understanding this code 08.31.16 # Sad. 08.31.47 # i just tried yesterday running parts of the OF and parts of my code - i'll continue in this way 08.32.04 # Didn't you already epic win today with that bug fix with the linker scripts? 08.32.31 # maybe - but that doesn't solve what i wanted to do 08.35.24 Join Rob2222 [0] (n=Miranda@p4FDCC867.dip.t-dialin.net) 08.39.36 Quit Acksaw (Connection timed out) 08.40.09 # Zagor/B4gder: Are you going to revert r19020 (dependency of 'make zip' & friends on the main build)? 08.40.40 # I'm with B4gder here - being able to zip up an incomplete build is a useful thing 08.41.24 # (e.g. when porting to a new target and some plugins fail to build because of missing button assignments or similar) 08.41.54 Join J-23 [0] (n=kvirc@a105.net128.okay.pl) 08.42.12 # make -k ? 08.42.22 # Hi! 08.43.17 # * J-23 considers running $self->make($sandwich) 08.43.20 Quit BigBambi (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 08.43.29 # heh, I need to escape "$" character (KVirc) 08.45.04 # zomg, is that... PHP? 08.47.38 Quit JdGordon ("Konversation terminated!") 08.53.02 Quit Rob2223 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 08.54.52 Join petur [50] (n=petur@rockbox/developer/petur) 08.54.54 # amiconn: i agree 08.57.11 # ow - if i execute OF, and execute myself the acmd41, i got the card powered up 08.57.15 # now, one step back ;) 08.57.34 # planetbeing: no, I didn't think about PHP when I wrote $self 08.59.19 # if i send myself the cmd8 (to check sdhc support) - still success 09.02.27 # and if i send myself the cmd0 (go idle) - failure. let's look more closer at what happens between these two 09.06.04 Join goffa [0] (n=goffa@216.220.23.105) 09.16.41 Quit goffa_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 09.19.56 # * Zagor just compiled & linked the first binary with his new unified makefile 09.20.08 # wooo 09.20.17 # * B4gder is just a little scared 09.20.42 # libspeex is a bit messy, since we compile it twice with different flags... 09.20.53 Join Kalibur [0] (n=pure_kal@124.176.87.81) 09.21.01 # hey guys 09.21.29 # Zagor: yeah that puts the makefile to a fine test! ;-) 09.22.06 # im looking for some help here guys, rockbox freezes before it fully loads so it wont connect to my computer 09.22.23 # therefore i cant fix anything, does anyone know if theres a button combination to force it into usb mode? 09.22.46 # * B4gder now looks into his crystal ball to guess what target Kalibur refers to 09.23.04 # darnit, still misty! 09.23.06 # Zagor: We also compile libmad twice 09.23.29 # amiconn: when? 09.23.32 # lol silly me 09.23.43 # holding select + the play/pause button puts it into disk mode 09.23.45 # Zagor: For the codec and for mpegplayer 09.23.47 # chow 09.23.51 Quit Kalibur (Client Quit) 09.23.54 # amiconn: with different flags? 09.24.56 # do the two separate speex builds really have to use separate flags? 09.25.09 # I haven't looked into that yet 09.25.12 # ok 09.26.05 # one annoying quirk with make is that ignores all targets in directories that doesn't exist at the time that dependency line is parsed... 09.26.51 # Zagor: -DMPEGPLAYER 09.27.02 # amiconn: ok. thanks. 09.27.15 # That one changes IRAM usage a bit (see mad_iram.h) 09.28.04 # Does the new Makefile handle already handle the special cases, like rombox, self-extractor, "overlay" plugins? 09.28.25 # * amiconn also wonders how maintainable this unified Makefile will be 09.28.31 # no, it's very early still 09.28.52 # it's not a single file as such, it uses includes. 09.29.01 # but it is a single invocation of make 09.29.20 # this allows much more precise dependency handling 09.29.47 # I like a single makefile 09.29.50 # today we have makefiles that depend on targets made by other makefiles 09.31.24 # the concept is that configure creates Makefile that contains the exported variables, and which includes tools/root.make. which in turn includes apps.make, firmware.make, lang.make, bitmaps.make etc. 09.32.45 # then we get an unbroken dependency chain all the way from .c to .bin 09.37.30 Quit kachna (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 09.38.34 Join Thundercloud [0] (n=thunderc@cpc1-hem18-0-0-cust660.lutn.cable.ntl.com) 09.41.10 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 09.42.32 Join robin0800 [0] (n=robin080@cpc2-brig8-0-0-cust394.brig.cable.ntl.com) 09.54.27 Quit massiveH ("Leaving") 10.01.45 Quit AndyIL (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 10.02.48 Join AndyI [0] (i=AndyI@212.14.205.32) 10.06.53 Quit swimmer (Client Quit) 10.09.17 Join lasser [0] (n=chatzill@W81b3.w.pppool.de) 10.10.09 # what is the state of the speex codec? is it imported verbatim, so we don't want to make local changes to it? 10.10.41 # I want to remove the -Wno-unused-parameter compiler flag, which means I need to fix the code so those warnings don't appear 10.11.44 # * B4gder points to preglow 10.12.27 # I'll do it locally for now at least 10.13.49 Quit pixelma2 ("-") 10.14.01 Join pixelma [50] (i=pixelma@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 10.15.07 Quit BHSPitMonkey (Remote closed the connection) 10.15.16 Quit n17ikh|Lappy () 10.27.38 Quit Thundercloud (Remote closed the connection) 10.41.39 Join bmbl [0] (n=Miranda@unaffiliated/bmbl) 10.50.38 Quit robin0800 (Remote closed the connection) 10.54.19 Join PaulJam [0] (n=PaulJam_@vpn-3075.gwdg.de) 10.57.18 Join robin0800 [0] (n=robin080@cpc2-brig8-0-0-cust394.brig.cable.ntl.com) 11.17.05 # how weird - i have the sd code working (still running from the OF, but all the SD related code is mine) 11.17.20 # but when I remove a printf() then it doesn't work anymore 11.17.30 # timing? 11.18.08 # that's the only thing i can think of, now that the linker scripts are fixed 11.19.06 Quit parafin ("So long and thanks for all the fish") 11.19.09 Join parafin [0] (i=parafin@paraf.in) 11.20.29 # i wouldn't want to mesure printf's speed 11.22.37 Join Actium [0] (n=none@ool-44c0abd0.dyn.optonline.net) 11.23.11 # the filesystem on my sanza c200 got messed up somehow and now I can't read or write any files, although rockbox will boot; I can't format it in windows, and reisntalling rockbox doesn't appear to have helped 11.23.31 # it's only the music folder, though.. all other folders seem to work 11.23.51 # repeat question from yesterday: is there a reason why we load crt0.o from the linker script instead of the linker command line? I would like to remove it from the script 11.24.46 # i should also say whenever I try to delete files, it disapears from my computer 11.24.47 # Zagor: if there ever was a reason I think it's forgotten 11.26.57 # Actium: is there not a format option in the OF menu there is on c250 11.27.56 Join kachna [0] (n=kachna@r3g248.net.upc.cz) 11.29.44 # Actium: did you try running a chkdsk? 11.35.32 Join Xerion [0] (i=xerion@82-170-197-160.ip.telfort.nl) 11.36.23 Quit funman ("leaving") 11.41.14 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 11.50.59 Quit Seed ("cu, Andre") 11.52.29 Join funman [0] (n=fun@AAnnecy-257-1-19-179.w90-28.abo.wanadoo.fr) 11.52.58 # I pushed the fix for the embedded SD card - it would be nice if people can test on m200v2/fuze/e200v2 11.53.36 # it seems incredibly easy (now that it's done) 11.56.08 # funman: where can i get the compiled firmare to test it? 11.56.37 # just build it from a svn checkout 11.56.58 Quit robin0800 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 11.57.03 # that would mean i have to build a toolchain first 11.57.16 # do you have a link to a toolchain binaery pack? 11.58.08 Part B4gder 11.58.12 # also svn? i thought the v2 test repository was git 12.02.18 # not anymore no, development now happens in SVN 12.04.36 # blkhawk: no sorry, but don't worry there is no hurry : someone with a toolchain and a svn checkout will check. thanks for the offer anyway 12.07.53 # I just put a new drive in my macbook/dev machine 12.07.58 # need to rebuild 12.09.04 # pixelma: ah i see 12.11.58 # pixelma: do you have time to try a cygwin build for me? 12.13.05 # yes 12.13.59 # pixelma: change the lines VERSION and BUILDDATE in your builddir Makefile from = to := 12.15.14 # sim or target build or "doesn't matter"? 12.15.20 # doesn't matter 12.15.31 Join Darksair [0] (n=user@221.221.158.19) 12.16.33 # pixelma: oh, and time it. I want to know if it makes a difference 12.17.55 # ok 12.21.28 Join davidjahan [0] (n=503e945c@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-7b5f04d36eea7b68) 12.25.23 Join Nico_P [0] (n=nicolas@jau31-3-82-239-20-145.fbx.proxad.net) 12.25.56 Join culture [0] (n=none@cpc1-bele3-0-0-cust658.belf.cable.ntl.com) 12.26.55 Quit davidjahan ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)") 12.28.42 # btw. what I wanted to ask for a while - does the number that appears in [] after the nick in the raw IRC logs say something about one's "power" to use logbot or is it something freenode related? (I always thought it's the former but am not sure) 12.30.14 Join Seed [0] (n=ben@bzq-84-108-232-45.cablep.bezeqint.net) 12.30.18 Quit markun (Remote closed the connection) 12.31.12 # it's the logbot level, yes 12.32.06 # aha, thanks. I suppose if it had been something freenode it would show in my client as well and since it doesn't... 12.40.40 Join markun [50] (n=markun@rockbox/developer/markun) 12.44.03 Join kugel [0] (n=chatzill@unaffiliated/kugel) 12.44.29 # funman: I just read the logs a bit. I've also had quirks with printf 12.44.50 # code working with printf didn't work at all after commenting the printf, or adding another one 12.46.28 # Zagor: (just tried a "make") - still works with the change and there's a bit of a speedgain: c200 sim build without took almost exactly 11 minutes here, with the change 10:30 12.47.13 # ok. I had hoped for a bit more. 12.47.50 # do we know in detail what it is that makes cygwin so very very slow? 12.48.28 # kugel: it should be fixed starting from r19033 12.49.41 # I read that you experienced problems with printf after that commit 12.50.09 # yep but it was likely related to timing: the code worked but not the hardware 12.51.15 # Zagor: I think amiconn knows a bit about it 12.51.18 # could be related to timing in my case too 12.51.43 # what's the problem ? 12.53.02 # funman: http://www.rockbox.org/irc/log-20081102#15:14:55 12.53.36 # yesterday you didn't have r19033 :) 12.54.02 # it wasn't yesterday 12.54.15 # and yes, I didn't test it after that commit, but still 12.54.46 # lcd init function depended on uninitialized data, so crash probability was the same than a coin toss 12.55.21 # nah, it was reproduce-able 12.55.33 # got to go, see you 12.55.37 Quit kugel ("ChatZilla 0.9.83 [Firefox 3.0.3/2008101315]") 12.55.38 # yes, because the uninitialized data was the same across reboot 12.56.43 # Hmm. Would Nintendo DS be a silly target for Rockbox? 12.58.24 # jchillerup: not at all 12.59.24 # I mean, it has wifi and touch screen, two LCDs and pretty good sound quality 13.00.33 Join fyre^OS [0] (n=nnscript@cpe-24-90-86-148.nyc.res.rr.com) 13.01.46 # jchillerup: what kind of storage does it use? 13.02.05 # Zagor: Regarding your question: See http://svn.rockbox.org/viewvc.cgi/trunk/firmware/target/sh/archos/app.lds?view=log (r17289) 13.02.21 # MicroSD in the homebrew cartridges 13.02.23 # This is the SH version, but the problem exists regardless of architecture 13.02.27 # It doesn't have internal storage, alas 13.03.34 # amiconn: aha, we need it if firmware is a lib. that's why it works with my make, where firmware is linked directly as object files. 13.04.35 # Zagor: I use my nintendo ds as an mp3 player currently, because my real mp3 player broke :( 13.04.55 # there is a program called moonshell that plays MP3s, but it's kindda bad; doesn't support VBR mp3, for example 13.08.00 Quit fyrestorm (Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)) 13.08.17 Nick Darksair is now known as Darksair{away} (n=user@221.221.158.19) 13.14.09 # Zagor: it seems there are development libraries that allow for writing to the FAT file system on the homebrew cartridges 13.16.14 # Oh, it has a microphone too 13.16.42 # Zagor: would you assist me if^H^H when I run into problems with the port 13.17.06 # Is v2 SD code safe to test? 13.17.55 # J-23: this software comes without any kind of warranty bla bla bla, but my Clip isn't broken 13.18.54 # jchillerup: there are many of us here who will cheer on a new port 13.19.01 # That's good 13.19.02 # * J-23 thinks he's safe, because e200v2's are unbrickable 13.19.21 # I'm pretty inexperienced with embedded systems programming 13.19.30 # I'll read up on some Nintendo DS homebrew guides 13.20.23 # jchillerup: FYI someone had the same idea about a year ago: http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=12253.0 13.20.37 # Oh! 13.22.08 # the NewPort wiki page seems usable 13.22.28 # we like to think so :-) 13.22.39 # flashing... 13.23.13 # "now - card ready!" 13.23.27 # hehe cool 13.23.42 Join robin0800 [0] (n=robin080@cpc2-brig8-0-0-cust394.brig.cable.ntl.com) 13.23.52 Quit funman ("leaving") 13.24.36 # amiconn: do you know any more specifics about the cygwin slowness? 13.27.26 # now how hard will it be to make read support? 13.31.22 Nick fxb__ is now known as fxb (n=felixbru@h1252615.stratoserver.net) 13.34.13 Quit amiconn (Nick collision from services.) 13.34.19 Join amiconn [50] (n=jens@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 13.37.12 Part LinusN 13.41.16 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 13.41.42 Join DerPapst [0] (n=DerPapst@p5B23BE30.dip.t-dialin.net) 13.42.01 # hey. anyone tested a current build on his gigabeat s? 13.42.24 # i'm getting a panic. 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I work at a higher level of abstraction :) 15.15.15 # funman: what does r19036 exactly mean? What's possible now and what not? 15.15.19 Quit bmbl ("Woah!") 15.15.38 # I guess the problem that you cannot power on the sd controller is solved? 15.15.51 # the controller for the embedded sd that is 15.15.52 # kugel: it's possible to continue developing the sd driver - until we are blocked again 15.16.12 # the problem was that we couldn't power the sd card itself, yes it's solved 15.16.23 # ah ok 15.16.25 # sounds good 15.16.39 # now we must decode the 'csd register' because the version it uses is 'reserved' and not detailed in the SD specification 15.16.53 # can you run the patch i just pasted on your fuze ? 15.17.20 # later, let me have my coffee ;) 15.17.48 Join bmbl [0] (n=Miranda@unaffiliated/bmbl) 15.18.04 # ;) 15.18.24 # I just fell through the theoretical part of the driving test, so I'm in a quite bad mood anyway 15.18.46 # quotas :( 15.19.36 # * J-23 patches Rockbox 15.20.10 # but it's great that we have a c200v2 user now 15.20.28 # yep, now remains the clipv2 :) 15.22.04 # is the hardware known? as in does it use the as3525 as well? 15.22.35 # i can imagine that they just increased the ram (the bigger firmware leads me to that assumption) 15.23.37 # after a quick look at the OF it looks essentially the same 15.23.45 # but i noticed an armv5 instruction so it might be a newer version of the SoC, similar to as3525 15.24.18 # make[1]: *** No rule to make target `ata_sd_as3525.h', needed by `/home/Moarc/rockbox/build/firmware/target/arm/as3525/ata_sd_as3525.o'. Stop. 15.24.24 # the firmware has the same "as3525develop.." string 15.24.31 # arm4 code will run on a arm5, doesn't it? 15.24.32 # J-23: oops i thought it was included into the patch :/ 15.25.04 # well it is 15.25.11 # hm, sounds weird that they change the core cpu, but not the package name 15.29.07 # That's SanDisk for you. 15.30.03 # well, rather austrian microsystems 15.30.18 # Or both. 15.31.27 # could be 15.34.11 Join Xerion [0] (i=xerion@82-170-197-160.ip.telfort.nl) 15.34.18 # funman: where can I download that file? 15.34.20 # funman: how do you explain the bigger firmware size? 15.34.56 # J-23: it's included in the patch 15.35.01 # kugel: i don't 15.35.04 Join stu8ball [0] (n=stuart@aurora.ossified.net) 15.35.09 # funman: relly? 15.35.12 # really* 15.35.24 # yes it starts at line 358 15.35.57 # perhaps /dev/null confuses your patch, try replacing it with b/firmware/target/arm/as3525/ata_sd_as3525.h 15.36.07 # i mean a/.. 15.36.24 Join kugel_ [0] (n=chatzill@e178115150.adsl.alicedsl.de) 15.36.43 Quit kugel (Nick collision from services.) 15.36.50 Nick kugel_ is now known as kugel (n=chatzill@e178115150.adsl.alicedsl.de) 15.36.51 Nick fxb is now known as fxb__ (n=felixbru@h1252615.stratoserver.net) 15.37.20 # J-23: don't forget to do "make clean", possibly even re-run configure 15.38.53 Join dany_21a_ [0] (n=dan@217.29.146.68) 15.39.01 # it correctly detects my 1GB storage (I had reversed the order of the words) 15.41.12 Join MethoS- [0] (n=clemens@host-091-097-243-200.ewe-ip-backbone.de) 15.41.18 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 15.41.29 # I copied ata_sd_as3525.h to firmware/target/arm/as3525, but I still receive this error 15.41.34 # funman: so it should write something with 4 billion on my fuze? 15.41.56 # kugel: no ^^ let me post the correct patch 15.42.39 # http://paste.ubuntu.com/68864/ 15.42.55 # J-23: i don't know what's wrong, sorry - did you run make clean ? 15.43.13 # no 15.43.23 # after removing all from build dir everything works properly 15.43.29 # lol 15.43.38 # didn't I just told you to run make clean? 15.43.38 # flashing... 15.44.00 # kugel: you did, but I always remove build/* 15.44.50 # booted, now what should I do? 15.45.05 # just paste what's on the screen 15.45.21 # ID: JKLDFJL, Rockbox logo and Boot Ver. 15.45.38 # thanks 15.45.44 # (JKLDFJL - lots of letters and ciphers) 15.46.28 Join MethoS-- [0] (n=clemens@host-091-096-214-062.ewe-ip-backbone.de) 15.47.58 Join mofux [0] (n=quassel@dslb-092-078-054-217.pools.arcor-ip.net) 15.48.14 Quit jpt9__ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 15.49.19 Quit MethoS- (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 15.50.41 # J-23: what player do you have? 15.50.48 # kugel: e280v2 15.52.07 Join n1s [0] (n=nils@rockbox/developer/n1s) 15.54.11 Quit Darksair{away} (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 15.54.48 Join Darksair [0] (n=user@221.221.158.19) 15.58.53 Join kushal_12_27_200 [0] (n=kushal@12.169.180.178) 15.59.16 Quit mofux (Remote closed the connection) 15.59.56 Nick Darksair is now known as Darksair{away} (n=user@221.221.158.19) 16.02.13 Join mofux [0] (n=quassel@dslb-092-078-054-217.pools.arcor-ip.net) 16.05.18 Join mcflow [0] (n=mcflow@88-134-164-243-dynip.superkabel.de) 16.10.30 Quit J-23 (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 16.22.26 Join AndyI [0] (i=AndyI@212.14.205.32) 16.22.52 Join jgarvey [0] (n=jgarvey@cpe-098-026-069-229.nc.res.rr.com) 16.24.48 # it seems i can reuse a lot of code from ata-sd-pp.c, that's why I want to factorize it 16.25.08 # perhaps in drivers/ata_sd.c 16.25.24 # anyway, too much sensations for today :) see you 16.25.30 Quit funman ("leaving") 16.27.34 Nick fxb__ is now known as fxb (n=felixbru@h1252615.stratoserver.net) 16.27.43 # * Zagor spots an ugly typedef struct in hotswap.h 16.28.01 # what's ugly about it? 16.28.08 # structs are not types 16.28.10 # It exists 16.28.37 # i see, oop haters :) 16.28.53 # Yes, but that's unrelated :) 16.29.02 # not unrelated 16.29.15 # what on earth does typedef abuse have to do with oop? 16.29.38 Join J-23 [0] (n=kvirc@a105.net128.okay.pl) 16.29.56 # unless you define oop as "nobody really needs to read and understand this code anyway" 16.30.05 # encapsulation, I think they call it 16.30.20 # I quote my academic teacher "typedef structs are the bridge from C to oop" 16.30.37 # those who can, do. those who don't, teach. 16.30.38 # Tell him that he has no clue then 16.30.41 # I, by myself, haven't thought about that much, so 16.30.56 # will do :p 16.31.52 # It is common in C code to typedef structs i think but i never understood the point either. 16.32.05 # n1s: very common. still very silly. 16.32.34 # we even have it docs/CONTRIBUTING 16.35.36 # ok, my next patch will have typedef struct my_new_type :P 16.36.16 # of course, with much tabs and // comments 16.40.04 Part mcflow ("Leaving.") 16.46.27 Quit J-23 (Excess Flood) 16.46.59 Join J-23 [0] (n=kvirc@a105.net128.okay.pl) 16.55.29 Join faemir [0] (n=quassel@88-106-238-33.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) 16.56.01 Part dany_21a_ 16.56.17 # how can rockbox encode a recording on-the-fly to 128kbit/s mp3? 16.57.12 Quit J-23 ("Flying cow pressed ^D on my keyboard.") 16.57.26 # Kopfgeldjaeger: With an MP3 encoder? 16.57.33 # I'm not sure I understand the context of the question. 16.57.50 Join J-23 [0] (n=kvirc@a105.net128.okay.pl) 16.59.22 # of course it can decode the mp3-stream to play it. but does the sansa also have an mp3 encoder? or is only one needed for both tasks? 16.59.23 Quit kushal_12_27_200 ("Leaving") 16.59.42 # I said encoder, not decoder. 16.59.52 # it's all handled by software. 17.00.01 # You'll see the features Rockbox has in the manual. 17.01.51 Quit Spida (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 17.02.53 Join fyrestorm [0] (n=nnscript@cpe-68-173-235-151.nyc.res.rr.com) 17.06.06 Quit Zagor ("Client exiting") 17.11.19 Nick Darksair{away} is now known as Darksair (n=user@221.221.158.19) 17.19.18 Quit fyre^OS (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 17.21.53 Join Horscht [0] (n=Horscht@xbmc/user/horscht) 17.25.18 # woop, downloading the devkit for the nintendo ds 17.25.45 # (I'm trying to port rockbox to nintendo ds) 17.27.42 Join kushal [0] (i=4596a301@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-186ce9a4a86803db) 17.28.53 Quit jfc (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 17.29.15 # Hi, I know its stupid but I will ask anyway. Is it possible AT ALL to play any kind of video on Sansa C2xx ? 17.29.15 Quit fyrestorm (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 17.29.18 Join fyre^OS [0] (n=nnscript@cpe-68-173-235-151.nyc.res.rr.com) 17.29.55 Join jfc [0] (n=john@dpc691978010.direcpc.com) 17.30.08 # kushal: Yes, it should be covered in the manual... 17.30.19 # Is mpegplayer missing from the c200 manual? 17.30.32 Quit jfc (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 17.31.23 Join jfc [0] (n=john@dpc691978010.direcpc.com) 17.33.35 Join jfc^3 [0] (n=john@dpc691978010.direcpc.com) 17.36.23 # Llorean, yes thank you. http://download.rockbox.org/manual/rockbox-sansac200/rockbox-buildch11.html#x14-21900011.3.5 17.37.05 # In the future, please search our manual first. 17.38.14 # sorry about that 17.39.03 Quit jfc (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 17.41.21 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 17.41.45 Quit jhulst (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 17.42.09 Join mofux_ [0] (n=quassel@dslb-092-078-093-092.pools.arcor-ip.net) 17.43.12 Quit petur ("*plop*") 17.43.23 Quit kushal ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") 17.47.22 Quit Darksair ("Zzz...") 17.50.15 # LambdaCalculus37: hey, the v2s (at least e200v2 and fuze, most likely c200v2 too) will be easily adapted to backlight fading :) 17.52.02 # kugel: Not bad. :) 17.52.19 # I already let my fuze fade 17.53.29 # * kugel should find sometime to try to fix the issues mentioned by bertrik and then get attention of it on the ml 17.55.14 # kugel: Ask Mr. Someone. ;) 17.56.16 # LambdaCalculus37: Mr. Someone can only be asked on something that is generally agreed on :( 17.58.02 Quit mofux (Connection timed out) 18.01.16 Quit faemir (Remote closed the connection) 18.03.25 Quit kugel ("ChatZilla 0.9.83 [Firefox 3.0.3/2008092417]") 18.04.37 Join kugel [0] (n=chatzill@unaffiliated/kugel) 18.06.51 Join faemir [0] (n=quassel@88-106-238-33.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) 18.17.50 Join evilnick [0] (i=0c140464@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-c02672ba21032629) 18.23.27 Join {phoenix} [0] (n=dirk@p54B4778B.dip.t-dialin.net) 18.39.19 Join miepchen^schlaf [0] (n=miepchen@p579ECCCE.dip.t-dialin.net) 18.40.22 Join bertrik [0] (n=bertrik@ip117-49-211-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl) 18.42.42 Join petur [50] (n=petur@rockbox/developer/petur) 18.43.08 Join miepchen^schlaf_ [0] (n=miepchen@p579ECCCE.dip.t-dialin.net) 18.45.37 Join MrKitty [0] (n=4544bd94@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-792c6a7ef88e8669) 18.45.57 # Help? 18.46.05 # I need help.... 18.46.23 # Hello 18.46.30 # Hello MrKitty 18.46.46 # With rockbox... 18.47.05 # I need help with Rockbox >_> 18.47.08 # So just ask. 18.47.16 # Wow this is laggy. 18.47.18 # The anticipation is killing us. 18.47.25 # I can imagine. 18.47.41 # You need help... 18.47.58 # We need to know what you need help with. 18.48.00 # Well I installed it using the auto intaller, didn't like it so I went into my Ipod on my computer, deleted the rockbox. folder, ejected my ipod. 18.48.25 # and now all I get is my ipod trying to boot up rockbox, it saying its not there. 18.48.43 Join obo [0] (n=obo@rockbox/developer/obo) 18.48.44 # Because you forgot to uninstall the bootloader. 18.48.45 # I try connecting it to my computer to delete the boot up but I don't get anything when I connect it to my comp. 18.49.22 # Yeah thats what I aasumed, but I can't get my ipod to be reconized in itunes or on my computer. 18.49.27 # Restart your iPod and press SELECT+PLAY at the Apple logo to go into Disk Mode. You can delete the bootloader from there. 18.49.43 # After you connect it to your PC, of course. 18.49.49 # I was looknig around in there 18.50.05 # I can't connect it to my computer though.. nothing happens 18.50.18 # even when I'm in diskmode. 18.50.51 # And I tested my USB in diskmode and it said it's working... 18.51.38 # ... 18.51.42 # You can't test USB in disk mode. 18.51.49 # There's a USB test in the diagnostic mode. 18.52.11 # Maybe that's what I was in then, I thought that was Diskmode 18.52.16 # You weren't in disk mode. 18.52.34 # Oh, I see I see. 18.53.46 # I love you. 18.54.08 # So wait which file is the boot up file? 18.54.16 # There's no file for it. 18.54.23 # Just uninstall the bootloader with Rockbox Utility. 18.54.26 # It's stored somewhere special. Just use the utility, and choose its uninstall option. 18.54.46 # oh alright 18.59.00 # do you guys really just sit in here all day helping people? 19.00.00 # Yes. We're actually robots, you see. :P 19.00.02 Join BigBambi [0] (n=Alex@rockbox/staff/BigBambi) 19.00.20 # I don't believe you. 19.00.36 # LambdaCalculus37: are you available for backlight fade testing on the beast? 19.01.09 # kugel: I could do a little testing. Do you have a new patch up? 19.02.04 Join Strife1989 [0] (n=michael@204.116.245.152) 19.02.07 # very soon 19.02.07 Quit MrKitty ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 19.02.20 Quit Strife89 (Nick collision from services.) 19.02.28 Nick Strife1989 is now known as Strife89 (n=michael@204.116.245.152) 19.02.57 # kugel: Cool, give me a holler when it's ready. 19.03.11 # Bagder: Is there a way to retest player builds against my server? 19.03.43 # I wonder if _backlight_off and _backlight_on could be static 19.05.10 # q 19.05.16 # kugel: I'm not sure how it would work on the beast if it were static, but you can try it. 19.05.40 # hm looks like they could though 19.08.07 Quit miepchen^schlaf_ () 19.10.02 Quit miepchen^schlaf (Connection timed out) 19.10.48 # * kugel noticed the code can't work 19.11.56 # kugel: Then you'll have to make them non-static. 19.14.20 # it's not the static, no worries. :) 19.16.23 # i wanted to get rid of the _helper function, but I need it 19.17.25 Quit Nico_P (Remote closed the connection) 19.20.58 Join Acksaw [0] (n=omgwtfbb@cpc2-stok5-0-0-cust754.bagu.cable.ntl.com) 19.22.30 Quit faemir (Remote closed the connection) 19.22.39 # LambdaCalculus37: http://pastebin.ca/1248050 19.25.46 # * kugel wonders if 500bytes binsize inc are considered "worth it" 19.27.04 # it'd only affect high mem targets 19.27.39 # LambdaCalculus37: are you already compiling? :) 19.27.56 Join DerDome [0] (n=DerDome@dslb-082-083-245-238.pools.arcor-ip.net) 19.27.58 # kugel: Not yet. 19.32.25 Quit bmbl ("Woah!") 19.33.50 Nick fxb is now known as fxb__ (n=felixbru@h1252615.stratoserver.net) 19.38.17 # kugel: I'm compiling now. 19.38.23 # cool 19.38.27 Join Horschti [0] (n=Horscht@p4FD4F736.dip.t-dialin.net) 19.39.11 Quit Horscht (Nick collision from services.) 19.41.22 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 19.43.42 Quit obo (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 19.44.36 Join obo [0] (n=obo@rockbox/developer/obo) 19.45.03 # LambdaCalculus37: ok, it doesn't work on my e200 19.45.57 # ah found it, it should work on the beast 19.49.02 # ok, maybe not 19.50.10 Join miepchen^schlaf [0] (n=miepchen@p57BB510C.dip.t-dialin.net) 19.50.32 # kugel: It failed to compile here. 19.50.53 # error message? 19.52.26 Join Fug [0] (n=Fuglita@87.127.165.79) 20.01.49 # http://pastebin.com/m54b99bf0 20.03.06 # LambdaCalculus37: that's weird 20.06.01 # LambdaCalculus37: I get completely different errors ;S 20.06.42 # LambdaCalculus37: you know of anybody making any progress cracking the karma firmware? 20.07.26 # ze: Nope. It's not so much of "cracking" the firmware, but we wanted to get the eCos source diffs that Rio had made for the Karma's OF. 20.08.24 # LambdaCalculus37: hmm, whys that? afaiu there's enough similar to other rockbox targets that the port itself wouldn't be that big of a deal, its just getting the unit to accept something new thats the sticking point? 20.09.24 # LambdaCalculus37: http://pastebin.ca/1248084 20.16.29 Join XavierGr [0] (n=xavier@rockbox/staff/XavierGr) 20.18.28 Quit viimrles (Remote closed the connection) 20.18.28 Quit lacrstech (Remote closed the connection) 20.25.49 # LambdaCalculus37: ping 20.28.36 # kugel: Still here. Just have to do some Real Life (tm) work. 20.29.24 # LambdaCalculus37: Ah sry, didn't know. I just hoped you already tried to recompile with the updated patch I pastebined 20.29.59 # kugel: I'm going to in a few minutes. 20.32.44 # LambdaCalculus37: Ok, wait for my next patch 20.34.01 Join bluebrother [0] (n=dom@rockbox/staff/bluebrother) 20.34.12 Join jhulst [0] (n=jhulst@unaffiliated/jhulst) 20.35.55 Join kachna [0] (n=kachna@r4ax178.net.upc.cz) 20.38.53 # LambdaCalculus37: http://pastebin.ca/1248105 20.40.43 # I have a Fuze and I'd like to help in some way 20.41.43 # Fug, maybe you cooperate with kugel 20.42.33 # ok, sure 20.42.37 Quit evilnick ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") 20.43.40 # bertrik: can you please try the backlight fade patch if your issues still appear? 20.43.49 # bertrik: http://pastebin.ca/1248105 20.44.01 # Fug: can you code? 20.44.22 # no, sorry 20.44.59 # I fear then there's not much to help for you :( 20.45.07 # kugel: Looks like you're trying to make the backlight fade in/out smoother. 20.45.08 # bertrik: will you? 20.45.16 # * LambdaCalculus37 is reading the patch kugel linked to him 20.45.17 # LambdaCalculus37: not really 20.46.07 # ok, no problem 20.46.11 # I mainly tried to further make the code for e200/c200 the same with beast, and fix the issues bertrik mentioned on the tracker 20.46.38 # Fug: do you have a build environment set up? 20.46.45 # kugel: Also Strife89 seems to have had problems as well. 20.46.51 Join Rob2223 [0] (n=Miranda@p4FDCC867.dip.t-dialin.net) 20.47.08 # well I believe that there are issues 20.47.13 # kugel, I possibily could do, with some guidance 20.47.41 # Strife89: Still here? 20.48.03 # Fug: there's instructions on how to compile rockbox in the wiki 20.48.05 # yes, I'll try 20.48.09 Quit amiconn (Nick collision from services.) 20.48.15 Join amiconn [50] (n=jens@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 20.48.56 # bertrik: when changing from off to on in the backlight setting, I only notice a minor flash (which is caused by lcd_enable) 20.49.01 # LambdaCalculus37: Yeah, I've had problems with it too. 20.49.11 # I cannot reproduce the pulsing backlight 20.49.28 # Strife89: kugel's working on a newer patch, so if you're interested in helping him iron out all of the problems, go for it. 20.49.40 # It gave syntax errors before I reversed the patch a few days ago. 20.49.43 # Strife89: what problems? 20.49.50 # LambdaCalculus37: We'll see. :) 20.50.05 # Strife89: http://pastebin.ca/1248105 is updated 20.50.13 # kugel: Not sure, exactly. 20.51.08 Quit kachna (Remote closed the connection) 20.51.08 # kugel: Want me to try applying it? 20.51.22 # Strife89: it'll apply, but you might want to test it on your target 20.51.23 Join kachna [0] (n=kachna@r4ax178.net.upc.cz) 20.51.53 # kugel: I'll set up a build environment now 20.52.33 # kugel: Give me a few minutes and I'll apply and make. 20.54.02 # Fug: the issue with not being able to code is, that you can only test code by others. And that's what I'm already doing :) Anyway, the more the merrier. 20.54.11 # kugel, the problems I reported on FS are gone 20.54.26 # tested only on e200 so far (haven't tried c200) 20.54.36 # sounds cool 20.55.22 # Making now. This'll take a while..... 20.56.53 # It stripped several "trailing CRs" when I applied it. 20.57.54 # I still haven't worked with patches enough to know, exactly, what that means. 20.59.33 # Strife89: that's weird. are you using windows/cygwin? 20.59.44 # kugel: No, Ubuntu. 20.59.47 # kugel, works fine so far on the c200 too 21.00.04 # hm, then it's probably pastebin.ca adding CR without reason 21.00.21 # kugel: I used view raw on Pastebin, and then saved that directly. 21.00.37 # they shouldn't harm. if they do, do dos2unix on them or safe with an appropriate text editor 21.00.39 # As "new_fade.diff". 21.00.49 # I didn't get any CR warnings when patching 21.01.10 # bertrik: nice! 21.02.00 # * Strife89 sometimes wishes for a way to skip most of the language building. 21.02.35 # This is an ~800 MHz machine..... 21.02.45 # the last thing: let the backlight work if backlight fading is not #defined in the config-.h 21.03.16 # Strife89: well, you only build them once, so. just try to avoid make cleans and deletions of the build dir ;=) 21.03.18 # ;)* 21.03.22 # Crap, I can't get the patch to apply clean right now. 21.03.34 Quit Rob2222 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 21.03.54 # kugel: I have no wireless access right now, so I have to wait until later to svn revert the files and reapply the patch. 21.03.55 # kugel: I made a spare directory for this build. :) 21.04.55 # LambdaCalculus37: huh? I don't understand 21.05.23 # kugel: LambdaCalculus37 must have a build setup on a laptop (?)..... 21.05.29 # why do you need internet to revert your local tree? 21.05.51 # kugel: Because Strife89's right. I'm using my PowerBook to compile. 21.06.13 # And I have no wireless access at work. 21.06.23 # Wow, for a minute I thought I was dead wrong. :) 21.06.31 # and how do you get the patch? 21.06.45 # kugel: Flash drive? 21.06.50 # the only thing you need internet access for is getting the patch 21.07.08 # kugel: Copied the pastebin to Notepad2, saved it to my USB stick, copied it to the PowerBook, patched... 21.07.21 # * LambdaCalculus37 stops to take a breath 21.07.31 # * Strife89 just said that. ;) 21.07.42 # I still don't get what you need internet access for. "svn revert -R *" requires no internet at all 21.07.43 # Albiet in only two words. 21.07.52 # And as a question. :) 21.08.26 Join meven [0] (n=meven@ARennes-258-1-73-254.w90-25.abo.wanadoo.fr) 21.09.19 # LambdaCalculus37: can you explain? 21.09.56 Quit meven (Remote closed the connection) 21.11.03 # It's finally building some of the plugins. 21.11.03 # kugel: I had thought that svn needed net access for most functions. 21.11.26 # LambdaCalculus37: Heh, so did I. :) 21.13.40 # LambdaCalculus37: no, not if you don't specify a revision. Then you only need it for svn co and up 21.13.49 # and commit 21.14.24 # kugel: I got it to revert now. 21.14.31 # Applying your new patch. 21.14.36 # nice :) 21.14.53 # It's still making here. -_- 21.15.05 # It's on zxbox. 21.15.10 # :( 21.15.23 Quit J-23 (Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)) 21.15.23 # I told you, 800 MHz CPU. 21.15.23 # you should probably just deactivate plugin building 21.15.33 # that should help a lot 21.15.39 Quit obo ("bye") 21.15.47 # kugel: I'm also making "from scratch". 21.16.05 # kugel: I made a new folder just for this build. 21.16.34 # kugel: Just in case it goes bad; and I can simply use patch --reverse 21.16.35 # yep, I can imagine that this takes painfully long. Have you ccache installed? 21.16.56 # * Strife89 has not heard of ccache. 21.17.03 # that helps when not buiding "from scratch" 21.17.09 # apt-get install ccache 21.17.36 # I'm not sure how it works exactly, but it drastically accelerates building when you build before 21.17.56 # Still building codecs here. 21.18.07 # Making mikmod. 21.18.22 # Aw, crap, I didn't svn update before this. 21.18.23 # I bet on Strife89! 21.18.30 # uuhh 21.18.49 # I think I'm on r19026, but I'm not certian. 21.18.58 # that'd should be fine enough 21.19.14 # It's still newer than what's on my Sansa now (r18836). 21.19.29 # :) 21.19.49 # MAKE in mpegplayer. 21.20.43 # Building plugins here. 21.20.45 # * Strife89 will laugh very loudly if LambdaCalculus37's computer beats his. 21.20.53 # libspeex 21.21.30 # * gevaerts notices that Strife89 hasn't mentioned dozens of plugins 21.21.57 # * Strife89 tells gevaerts that he doesn't want to bother naming every single one. 21.22.25 # I'm just giving my progress. :) 21.22.31 # * Strife89 makes a zip. 21.22.36 # you can't deactivate plugin building with a configure or make parameter can you? 21.22.45 # that'd be damn useful imho 21.23.04 # You can run make bin 21.23.04 # I wouldn't know. Maybe I could edit the makefile. 21.23.06 # Strife89: hint: make tar is fine if you're going to extract it right away 21.23.09 # Oh, that too. :) 21.23.19 # Edit apps/plugins/SOURCES then 21.23.25 # but that does exclude codecs as well 21.23.44 # I assume one with a slow processor can live without plugins, but not without codecs 21.23.57 # gevaerts: Nah, the makefile in the build directory feels safer to me. :) 21.24.13 # gevaerts: Lets me keep two configurations in check as well. :) 21.24.20 # If you're testing a patch, and the codec API didn't change, why bother building them? 21.24.21 # I was thinking of ../tools/configure --no-plugins 21.24.40 # Huzzah! Zip made! :D 21.24.59 # I think I won my bet :D 21.25.31 # * kugel is going to ask Mr.Someone about that 21.25.47 # * Strife89 's Sansa has 7.1 MB free. 21.26.16 # 7MB should be enough for everyone 21.26.29 # * Strife89 backs up his old build first. 21.26.54 # Strife89: btw, my patch is proven to work already :) 21.27.30 # kugel: I know, but is one good test enough to release it? ;) 21.27.43 # of course not :) 21.27.56 # kugel: Exactly. :) 21.28.22 Join ajonat [0] (n=ajonat@190.48.97.229) 21.28.48 # * Strife89 needs to do that read-only trick and kill the database refresh. 21.28.53 Quit ajonat (SendQ exceeded) 21.29.23 Join ajonat [0] (n=ajonat@190.48.97.229) 21.29.26 # Fortunately I'm in the habit of removing my memory card before booting the OF. 21.29.35 # This is strange... none of the plugins were built, and I didn't even get a binary. 21.29.37 # LambdaCalculus37: after you're done and unless you notice any problem, try to comment the HAVE_BACKLIGHT_THREAD_FADING in config-gigabeat-s.h out and see if feature disabling is properly working 21.29.53 # scroll up, probably an error occured 21.30.01 # * LambdaCalculus37 will have to revert his entire svn checkout 21.30.12 # * kugel oh noe 21.30.18 # * Strife89 boots the new build. 21.30.24 # kugel: No errors. I was watching it. Just no plugins. "Nothing to be done for 'all'" is the message. 21.30.27 # now that's what i NOT call backlight off 21.30.39 # my screen is entirely white with having the feature disabled 21.31.12 # LambdaCalculus37: well, that doesn't surprise me. they're just rebuilt when the the plugin, the api or the makefile changes 21.31.47 # r19022M. 21.31.48 Quit perrikwp ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") 21.32.01 # Wait, where's the customizable Quickscreen? 21.32.32 # can I look into the source files after preprocessor did his job? 21.32.53 # kugel: Another success. :) 21.33.07 # no issues you mean? 21.33.24 # kugel: Right, none so far. 21.34.25 # But where are the customizable Quickscreen settings?...... 21.35.12 Quit petur (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 21.35.26 # Strife89: on the context menu of a setting 21.35.33 # s/on/in 21.35.49 # so, the lcd turns of, but the backlight not 21.36.03 # kugel: Oh, I see. Sweet. :) 21.37.02 # kugel: The backlight seems to be turning off for me. 21.37.15 # I mean, completely. 21.37.36 # Strife89: I'm talking about when you deactivate the fading by commenting the #define out 21.37.50 # I'd like to have the old code still working you know 21.38.02 # Oh. 21.40.35 Join petur [50] (n=petur@rockbox/developer/petur) 21.41.23 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 21.41.30 Quit Schmogel (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 21.49.39 # LambdaCalculus37: how far is your tests? 21.55.19 # that evolves to a #ifdef hell.. 21.57.30 # kugel: The last build I tried has failed. 21.57.35 # I'll try again later on today. 21.57.40 # * LambdaCalculus37 is going home now 21.58.54 Quit LambdaCalculus37 ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") 22.02.58 Quit mofux_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 22.03.04 Join mofux [0] (n=quassel@dslb-092-078-067-007.pools.arcor-ip.net) 22.06.45 Quit miepchen^schlaf () 22.09.58 Quit gevaerts ("maintenance downtime") 22.18.41 # lol 22.18.53 # apps/ code built after plugins & codecs 22.20.48 Join gevaerts [0] (n=fg@rockbox/developer/gevaerts) 22.28.17 # so, need one last test on the beast 22.36.55 Quit Strife89 (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 22.39.14 Join rief [0] (n=rief@host34-194-dynamic.5-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) 22.39.19 # hi all 22.40.14 Quit DerDome (Remote closed the connection) 22.41.11 Join DerDome [0] (n=DerDome@dslb-082-083-245-238.pools.arcor-ip.net) 22.45.26 Join n17ikh|Lappy [0] (n=n17ikh@130-127-73-84.lightsey.resnet.clemson.edu) 22.47.04 Join spiorf [0] (n=spiorf@host45-171-dynamic.40-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) 22.47.52 # anyone keen on committing my simulator for the fuze? 22.48.04 Quit jhulst (Remote closed the connection) 22.48.05 Join Strife89 [0] (n=michael@204.116.245.152) 22.48.06 # (including keymap) 22.48.51 # in any event, please close http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/9512 22.54.53 # there is a config/plugin for rockbox that shutdown the player after some minutes of inactivity? 22.56.26 # idle shutdown is a base functionality 22.56.46 # you might want to check our nice manual ;-) 22.56.56 # sorry 22.57.06 # and thanks 22.57.33 Quit robin0800 (Remote closed the connection) 23.01.11 Join HBK [0] (i=hbk@pool-71-96-74-73.dfw.dsl-w.verizon.net) 23.07.52 Join Nico_P [50] (n=nicolas@rockbox/developer/NicoP) 23.07.59 Join perrikwp [0] (i=4aa794a0@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-250b2c4edb643276) 23.10.06 # why do I get this one? settings_list.c:1374: error: ‘LANG_BUTTONLIGHT_TIMEOUT’ undeclared here (not in a function) 23.11.50 Join krazykit [0] (n=kkit@host-69-145-35-234.static.bresnan.net) 23.16.03 # got it 23.17.13 Quit tyfoo ("Carpe diem") 23.29.10 Join massiveH [0] (n=massiveH@pool-71-187-243-194.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net) 23.30.47 Join fml [0] (n=4fd3c7da@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-235d80bb75487d2c) 23.32.24 Join miepchen^schlaf [0] (n=miepchen@p57BB510C.dip.t-dialin.net) 23.33.35 # Zagor is not here, but could somebody explain why "typedef struct" is silly? I quite like it but would also want to see arguments against it. 23.35.50 Quit miepchen^schlaf (Client Quit) 23.38.13 # fml: I can't 23.38.18 Quit {phoenix} (Remote closed the connection) 23.38.37 Join miepchen^schlaf [0] (n=miepchen@p57BB510C.dip.t-dialin.net) 23.39.17 # possibly because typedef hides the struct behind. So, if you don't know the code and have to do with the code, you first need to find out what that type is based on so you can work with it 23.40.23 Quit gevaerts (Nick collision from services.) 23.40.34 Quit _jhMikeS_ (Nick collision from services.) 23.40.36 Join gevaerts [0] (n=fg@rockbox/developer/gevaerts) 23.40.38 Join jhMikeS [50] (n=jethead7@rockbox/developer/jhMikeS) 23.41.24 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 23.41.24 Quit Fug ("Leaving") 23.42.05 Join bmbl [0] (n=Miranda@unaffiliated/bmbl) 23.44.13 Quit bluebrother ("leaving") 23.45.36 # kugel: but you see that it's not a primitive type (int, char). And to find the typedef (in order to find out what fields are inside) is exactly as easy or hard as to find the struct definition. So I still don't get it. 23.47.00 Quit Strife89 ("Chicago, take three......") 23.51.53 # fml: well, true. But the gain by typedef'ing structs is minor as well 23.52.52 # if you don't typedef it, you at least now it's a struct, so you don't even try something like + 23.53.15 # another question, why do some of my buttons not work in the sim? 23.53.57 Quit Nico_P (Remote closed the connection) 23.55.12 Quit ajonat () 23.56.08 # kugel: minor, but still > 0 IMO. And in C, you can't apply + to a non primitive type. 23.57.06 # yea, exactly 23.57.27 # that's why you got to know if my_type is a typedef'd int or a typedef'd struct 23.57.47 # anyway, I don't really care, I understand both sides