--- Log for 30.01.109 Server: hubbard.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 44 minutes and 40 seconds ago 00.03.45 Quit jgarvey ("Leaving") 00.04.54 Quit Zoxc () 00.05.32 Quit tessarakt ("Client exiting") 00.07.21 Part topology 00.11.41 Quit MethoS (Remote closed the connection) 00.11.45 Quit HBK (Client Quit) 00.12.26 Join HBK [0] (n=hbk@pool-71-96-74-73.dfw.dsl-w.verizon.net) 00.14.28 Quit __lifeless (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 00.14.57 Join Aurix_Lexico [0] (n=comrade@c-68-56-205-239.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) 00.15.11 Quit itcheg ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") 00.15.37 Join T0paz [0] (n=jonny@spc1-horn1-0-0-cust255.cosh.broadband.ntl.com) 00.15.55 Join [1]TruthTaco [0] (i=TruthTac@adsl-20-144-69.aby.bellsouth.net) 00.22.12 Quit Zagor ("Clint excited") 00.23.07 Quit ender` (" A computer program will always do what you tell it to, and seldom what you want it to.") 00.23.23 Join linuxstb [0] (n=linuxstb@rockbox/developer/linuxstb) 00.28.40 Quit flydutch ("/* empty */") 00.28.53 Quit krazykit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 00.29.30 Join krazykit [0] (n=kkit@76.252.49.213) 00.32.50 Quit TruthTaco (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00.32.51 Nick [1]TruthTaco is now known as TruthTaco (i=TruthTac@adsl-20-144-69.aby.bellsouth.net) 00.33.07 Quit BXCracer (Remote closed the connection) 00.38.42 Quit Rob2222 () 00.40.43 Join cool_walking_ [0] (i=cb3b81c3@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-4ad3445f616bbce1) 00.48.47 Quit mcuelenaere (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 00.49.38 Join Rob2222 [0] (n=Miranda@p4FDCC405.dip.t-dialin.net) 00.49.38 Quit Rob2222 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 00.52.09 Nick fxb is now known as fxb__ (n=felixbru@h1252615.stratoserver.net) 00.54.05 Quit BlakeJohnson86 (Remote closed the connection) 00.54.43 Join Eggbertx [0] (n=eggbertx@c-67-185-180-216.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) 00.55.04 # hey can someone help me? my copmuter thinks my sansa is an mp3 player so it wont let me put rockbox on it 00.55.24 # it worked untill i updated the sansa firmware 00.55.30 Join Rob2222 [0] (n=Miranda@p4FDCC405.dip.t-dialin.net) 00.55.44 # Eggbertx, make sure it is in MSC mode, not MTP mode (for USB) 00.55.55 # ok 00.56.14 # mtp=thinks its an mp3 player? 00.56.26 Quit FlynDice (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 00.56.26 # yep 00.56.28 # its mtp 00.56.48 # phew 00.57.01 # i thought it was problem with f/w 00.57.07 Quit Eggbertx (Client Quit) 00.58.29 Quit Rob2222 (Client Quit) 00.58.37 Quit faemir ("Lost terminal") 00.59.05 Join mcuelenaere [0] (n=mcuelena@rockbox/developer/mcuelenaere) 01.00.59 Quit moos ("Rockbox rules the DAP world") 01.01.34 Join Rob2222 [0] (n=Miranda@p4FDCC405.dip.t-dialin.net) 01.04.23 Quit Rob2222 (Client Quit) 01.05.28 Quit culture (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 01.06.10 Join fdinel [0] (n=Miranda@modemcable204.232-203-24.mc.videotron.ca) 01.10.28 Join BlakeJohnson86 [0] 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(n=DarkAuro@ppp-70-249-146-14.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net) 04.31.35 Quit Aurix_Lexico (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 04.36.31 Join webguest45 [0] (n=4c70618c@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-169608917f6d3dda) 04.36.39 # hello everyone 04.36.57 # webguest45, hello 04.37.43 # im trying to load rockbox onto my refurb e260R sansa and I cant load it automatically using the utility, and ideas? 04.38.02 # and=any 04.38.13 # it is a version .1 04.38.34 # version01.02.18A 04.38.58 # you do not have an e200r.. that is a plain e200 04.39.12 # ok 04.39.48 # I did not think it was as it isnt the *Rhapsody* model 04.40.22 # i checked by looking in the ubd and it is not the rhapsody model 04.40.32 # usd=usb 04.40.57 # yea.. if the rockbox utility does not work, you might try the manual install which is in the manual 04.41.24 # do i have to run the sansapatch for that? 04.41.58 # im a bit pc illiterate so thats why im here LOL 04.43.39 Join Barahir_ [0] (n=jonathan@Xc057.x.pppool.de) 04.44.07 Quit webguest45 ("CGI:IRC") 04.49.42 Join webguest07 [0] (n=4c70618c@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-7a5964868af8a617) 04.50.03 # im back I got booted off 04.50.11 # i was guest45 earlier 04.51.07 # i dont know how to manually load rockbox onto my sansae200 anyone here that can help me? I dont understand the manual on how to load it 04.52.12 # the manual install uses the sansapatcher but did the rockbox utility work 04.52.39 # no the utility didnt work it couldnt find the sansa on my pc 04.53.12 # are you using MSC mode in the usb mode? 04.53.35 # yes I am using the MSC mode in the usb mode 04.54.30 # i read in the graphic instructions that using the utility with a snasa that the proxy may have to be changed to be able to use the utility but I dont know what to change in the proxy settings on my pc or in the utility 04.54.30 # so did you select the sansa in the rockbox utility then? 04.54.56 # yes I did select the sans in the rockbox utility and it still didnt find it 04.55.09 Quit Barahir (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 04.55.14 # the sansa is connected to my F:/ 04.55.26 # F:/ 04.55.55 # is that the microsd slot or the internal storage? 04.56.39 # the internal storage im thinking as it is hooked up to my pc using the usb cord that came with the sansa 04.57.11 # what is on the f:/ drive then? 04.57.25 # i dont have a microsd card installed in the sansa either 04.57.59 # the sansa is showing that it is connected to my usb port F:/ 04.58.00 # yea but the microsd slot will still show up without a card 04.58.31 Join countrymonkey [0] (n=4b05639a@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-73543b4cebee7cd6) 04.59.25 # when I click on My Computer the Sansa is showing under devices with removable storage 04.59.29 Quit countrymonkey (Client Quit) 04.59.44 Join countrymonkey [0] (n=4b05639a@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-16e95dbec0774b7e) 04.59.56 Quit countrymonkey (Client Quit) 05.00.30 # yea.. the sansa will show up as two drives tho 05.00.32 Join webguest55 [0] (n=4b05639a@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-e881e7f525c49fd2) 05.01.03 # I'm countrymonkey> fs#9709 and #9829 are the same. Could one of them be committed? 05.01.59 # yes i see what you mean it is showing but is just showing as *Removable Dick G:/ 05.02.46 # Dick=Disk LOL 05.03.10 # o ok.. i was just checking.. you might have to so a manual install then 05.03.25 # so=do 05.03.25 # Chinese-simp has been out of date for over a month and I made 9709 xmas eve day. 05.04.30 # so how do I do the manual install do I run the sansapatcher first in dos? 05.05.16 # what operating system are you on? 05.05.31 # windowxxp sp3 05.05.42 # windows xp sp3 05.06.13 # when I run the sansapatcher it pops up a dos window 05.06.43 # do you have administrator rights? yes, it will popup like that 05.06.59 # yes I do have admin rights 05.08.31 # did the sansapatcher work? did you follow the steps? 05.10.41 # I havent done the sansapatcher yet, I figured I would come on the chat and ask before I attempted it just to make sure I was supposed to run the sansapatcher first before anything else. Is the sansapatcher the first step or is that the way that rockbox is loaded manually? 05.13.16 # the manual takes about how to run the sansapatcher.. i thought it did at least 05.14.41 # yes it does talk about how to run the sansapatcher. I guess my question is, after I run the sansapatcher will rockbox be loaded onto my sansa and thats all I have to do to load rockbox completely onto my sansa? 05.15.58 # No, you need to also unzip a build onto it, which the manual also tells you about. 05.16.26 # you need to load the .rockbox folder then the font then run the sansapatcher from what i see on the manual.. i think the manual tells it good enough 05.16.26 # and then you've got optional fonts and themes if you want them. 05.17.21 # ok thats what I thought. Thats what I dont know how to do, when I unzip the rockboz .zip file I dont know how to put the files onto the sansa 05.18.18 # you can drag and drop or extract straight to the sansa 05.18.32 # do I just open up the sansa main file folder and then put the .zip file into that folder? 05.18.41 # no 05.18.48 # extract the .zip into that folder 05.18.58 # so you end up with a ".rockbox" directory. 05.19.12 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 05.20.08 Join axionix [0] (n=axion@cpe-67-242-94-6.nycap.res.rr.com) 05.20.08 # ok thats where I get lost, I dont know how to extract the .zip file into that folder 05.20.41 # do I right click on the zip file , because when I do there is no*extract* in the popup window when I right click it, 05.21.11 # You can use 7-zip. 05.21.22 Quit webguest07 ("CGI:IRC") 05.28.40 Quit Barahir_ (hubbard.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 05.28.40 NSplit hubbard.freenode.net irc.freenode.net 05.28.40 Quit Unhelpful (hubbard.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 05.28.40 Quit 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(n=mud@cpe-24-93-17-195.rochester.res.rr.com) 05.28.40 NJoin obo [0] (n=obo@77-99-230-49.cable.ubr04.trow.blueyonder.co.uk) 05.28.40 NJoin crashd [0] (i=foobar@lostnode.org) 05.28.40 NJoin preglow [0] (i=thomj@tvilling2.pvv.ntnu.no) 05.28.40 NJoin ch4os [0] (n=ch4os@gentoo/user/ch4os) 05.28.40 NJoin crwl [0] (n=crawlie@a91-154-18-71.elisa-laajakaista.fi) 05.28.40 # that is if I get botted off 05.28.40 # botted=booted 05.28.40 # those patches aren't the same :/ 05.30.04 # okm now I have a directory .rockbox in the F:/ now what do I do? 05.31.12 # then you can install the fonts or themes now if you want but now you can run the sansapatcher 05.34.55 Quit XavierGr () 05.35.12 # do install the fonts into the .rockbox file or just onto the F:/? 05.35.53 # all the .zips are designed to be extracted to the root 05.36.07 # when I extract the fonts file to the F:/ folder it gives me a popup that the .rockbox already exists do I want to overwrite it 05.36.24 # is the F;? the root folder? 05.36.38 # root refers to the top-most level in a drive 05.36.44 # F:?=F:/ 05.36.56 # and say yes to that...it will only overwrite files with the same name and as there are none, it will be fine 05.37.11 # ok I will do that now 05.38.56 # om im going to check out the themes now I will be back in a few 05.39.03 # om=ok 05.40.49 # im back already, where do I find the themes? 05.41.04 # http://rockbox.org/wiki/WpsGallery 05.43.40 # any recommendations on the themes? 05.44.10 Quit welty ("Leaving") 05.45.38 # the theme is up to you 05.45.46 # It's kinda subjective isn't it? Cabbie 2.0 is the default and it comes already installed, so you don't need to install that one. 05.46.28 # as in what themes seem to work the best and some of them seem to kind of hide the fonts when the background pic is up 05.47.09 # Not sure, I haven't used any of those other than Cabbie 2.0. Amarok looks nice though. 05.47.26 # so if I dont download any themes then it will just default to the cabbie 2.0? 05.47.41 # yes 05.48.10 # You can install as many as you want and it will still use Cabbie 2.0 if you don't select one of the others. You can switch between them from within Rockbox. 05.48.15 # ok and yes I agree Amarok does look nice 05.48.52 # ok i see I am sooo behind the times and trying desperately to catch up!!LOL 05.49.32 Join Makuseru [0] (n=max@163.106.40.24.aeneasdsl.com) 05.49.52 # i use plain text vp on mine but like we said it is up to you 05.50.31 # ok thanks alot I appreciate all the help so far 05.54.38 Join Khyota [0] (n=khyota@cpe-071-070-236-167.nc.res.rr.com) 05.55.14 # I seem to be having a problem with Rockbox. I'm running v3.1 on a Toshiba Gigibeat F40 and any time i try to play a video or audio file, it freezes, and the only way i can get it shut down is to use the real on/off that disconnects it from the battery. Does anyone know what would cause this, and how i can stop it from freezing? 05.55.19 # ok i ran the sansapatcher and it is now writing it to my sansa 05.56.01 # so after it finishes writing it to my sansa I should be done am I right? 05.56.50 # yea.. you can safely remove the sansa 05.57.00 # webguest96: Yep. You just reboot the Sansa (if it doesn't do it itself), and you're running Rockbox. 05.57.42 # ok great thanks a bunch all of you for your excellent help, it is very much appreciated AWESOME!!! 05.57.55 Join timc [0] (n=aoeu@124.93.243.83) 05.58.02 # Make sure to check out the manual or you'll probably be confused by some things. 05.58.37 # yes I will read the maual also,..... hehehe you know me alreayd "confused" LOL 05.59.15 # it is still writing to the sansa, about how long does it take to upload? 06.01.26 # is the sansapatcher done? 06.01.32 # A minute or two at most I would say. 06.02.34 # yes the sansapatcher is done and it is still writing to the sansa 06.03.12 # You mean the sansa still shows the "writing" thing on it's screen? That notice isn't reliable. It probably isn't still writing 06.03.18 # Just "safely remove" the sansa 06.03.25 # i did extract I think 3-4 themes to it also 06.03.42 # use the green arrow in the system tray to eject it. 06.04.00 # yes it is still showing the "writing" thing on its screen 06.04.20 # You've "safely remove"d it and it still says that? 06.04.42 # no I havent safely removed it yet 06.05.49 Quit timc (Remote closed the connection) 06.06.14 # ok i removed it now and Rockbox is now showing on the screen excellent 06.07.58 # Makuseru: does Rockbox display an error message of any sort or does the screen go black or ..? 06.08.22 # hey what software do you guys use to upload music to your mp3. A friend says he uses Limewire, but Iheard that Limewire loads a bunch of junk onto your pc 06.08.48 # cool_walking_: The screen just freezes immediately when ever i try to play a video or song. So if its a video it freezes at the first frame. Or if its a song, it freezes at the WPS screen. 06.09.06 Join timc [0] (n=aoeu@124.93.243.83) 06.09.31 # On my Sansa I use copy-paste. 06.09.33 # webguest96, i use drag and drop 06.10.56 # Makuseru: Have you tried a filesystem check? 06.11.05 # No i havent. 06.11.22 # Do you know how to? 06.11.32 # No i dont. 06.12.17 # * cool_walking_ tries to find the link with the least ads.. 06.12.23 # Lol. 06.13.41 # http://help.isu.edu/index.php?action=faq&catid=31&docid=668 06.14.28 # cool_walking_: I'm actually using Kubuntu, sorry, should have mentioned that. 06.15.18 # ah okay. even easier :) open a console, unmount your device, and do "sudo fsck.vfat -at /dev/sda2" 06.15.28 # where /dev/sda2 is your FAT partition 06.15.39 # Alright, just a moment. 06.16.43 Quit HellDragon (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 06.16.46 # You may need to install the "dosfstools" package if it isn't already installed. 06.16.50 Join HellDragon [0] (n=jd@modemcable022.187-203-24.mc.videotron.ca) 06.18.17 # Its doing it now. 06.18.37 # What should i be looking for? 06.18.56 # If it gives you any output, there were problems. 06.19.03 # Makuseru: scary output :) i believe fsck is rather quiet when there's nothing wrong 06.19.40 # All it said was "dosfsck 2.11, 12 Mar 2005, FAT32, LFN" 06.19.52 # and it's finished? 06.20.02 # Yes. 06.20.23 # Okay, so it's not that... 06.21.12 # Hmm. 06.21.31 # Its also worth mentioning that ive tried reinstalling rockbox on it, several different versions. 06.22.14 # It never helped it. 06.22.21 # Does the original firmware work properly? 06.23.14 # I wouldnt know how to reinstall the original firmware. 06.23.23 # I dont have any of the disks it came with anymore. 06.23.31 # do the files play without error elsewhere? 06.24.33 # Makuseru: the original firmware is still there...the manual and FAQ should tell you how to boot back into it 06.24.42 Join kushal_12_27_200 [0] (n=kushal@12.169.180.178) 06.24.50 # The manual says dual boot is currently broken on the Gigabeat. 06.25.10 # kadoban: Do you mean do they play fine on my computer and such? 06.25.21 # Makuseru: yes 06.25.32 # Yes. Its fine on my comp. 06.25.37 # And it doesnt ever give me an error. 06.25.37 Quit sarixe ("Connection reset by the motherfucking peer") 06.25.39 # It just freezes. 06.25.55 # I'm leaning towards hardware problem.. 06.26.04 # Think so? 06.26.12 # That verywell could be it, its several years old. 06.26.16 # It's the conclusion I jumped to :) 06.26.37 # Well darn. 06.26.53 # that sentence was meant to discredit me... 06.27.11 # Well i really wouldnt put it past it to be a hardware problem. 06.27.14 # thanks for all your help guys have a good night 06.27.31 Quit webguest96 ("CGI:IRC") 06.27.31 # good night. you're welcome 06.27.32 # Its not in the best of shape, and is currently being held together with tape. 06.29.27 # right sorry...didnt scroll up far enough...now that i have, i would assume it is a hardware issue as well though 06.30.40 # Anyone want to sell me a Toshiba Gigibeat? lol. 06.31.13 # Well thanks anyway guys. 06.31.17 # Makuseru: if it's basically disassembled (depending on how held together with tape it is), you can always make sure everything is connected well and nothing is loose 06.32.53 # Its all assembeled fine, the metal case is just popping off. I reccently had it completely disassembeled to check everything out though and everything was socketed and seated fine. 06.33.06 # Makuseru: how did you originally install rockbox? 06.33.21 # With the Rockbox Installer. 06.33.50 # and have you tried using the uninstall feature from the installer then? 06.33.59 # Yes. 06.35.10 # in GBSYSTEM/FWIMG/ do you have a file named FWIMG01.DAT.ORIG ? 06.35.25 # Just a second, let me check. 06.36.03 # No i dont. 06.40.20 Join nuonguy [0] (n=john@c-24-6-174-132.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) 06.40.35 Join z35 [0] (n=z35@h162.20.89.75.dynamic.ip.windstream.net) 06.40.44 Quit Khyota (Remote closed the connection) 06.42.38 Join PSPdemon [0] (n=PSPdemon@c-66-177-151-78.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) 06.42.51 Join balug [0] (n=dvg@HSI-KBW-078-042-132-156.hsi3.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de) 06.43.09 Quit CaptainKewl (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 06.51.02 Quit balug ("Ex-Chat") 06.59.52 Quit fdinel ("Miranda IM! 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I think it should be if (v >= 0x10000) 08.20.25 # hrm... isn't that the same? 08.20.35 # Not at all 08.20.40 Quit lee321987 ("ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 3.0.5/2008120122]") 08.21.03 # 0x8001...0x8002... 0xffff are all > 0x8000 08.21.38 # ah! i see, will fix that right away. 08.21.51 Join kugel [0] (n=kugel@rockbox/developer/kugel) 08.23.32 # any ideas on a better way to decide how to implement clz? i don't think any targets other than ARMv5+ have it as an instruction, do they? 08.23.32 # Besides, the ___builtin_clz() used by gcc is a bit more efficient, at the cost of using more binsize. It only categorizes the byte where the leading bit is, then uses a lookup table 08.24.01 # Imo using a whole byte table is a bit overkill, but a 4 bit table would be okay I think. That's just 16 bytes 08.24.47 # I also don't understand why you're special-casing the uval == 0 case 08.25.59 # __builtin_clz(0) is undefined 08.27.46 # Is it? The arm clz() instruction returns 32 as expected. 08.29.25 # It may be due to an x86 quirk. Iirc the x86 has an instruction for this where uval == 0 is undefined 08.30.13 # the x86 one returns 30 consistently, it seems 08.30.36 # The special case could go into static inline int clz() (the one using __bultin_clz() ), and then there could be a special one for arm, as inline asm 08.31.20 Join Rob2223 [0] (n=Miranda@p4FDCC767.dip.t-dialin.net) 08.31.42 # The software implementation could be made to handle uval == 0 properly (currently it doesn't). A lookup table optimisation would have that for free. 08.33.06 # Actually I think it would be better to remove the __builtin_clz() variant, and have just 2: one for armv5+ and the software version 08.33.25 # The sim shouldn't have performance issues... 08.34.31 # hrm, true. the lookup should be pretty cheap, even if the table's not in cache already? we do a few fdivs before renderning each column, and scanning down a column in lcd_buffer will probably bump a lot of stuff out of the cache 08.35.54 Join Darksair [0] (n=user@221.221.162.216) 08.42.37 # It's a single lookup per clz(). Coldfire has no data cache, so it would be helpful to have it in IRAM, but for this plugin it shouldn't be put there 08.43.09 Quit cool_walking_ ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") 08.43.10 # what about ARMv4? 08.43.11 # Afaik we want it to run while music is playing some day, and using IRAM in plugins forbids that 08.43.44 # What about it? ARMv4 has a unified cache 08.45.07 Join Zagor [242] (n=bjorn@rockbox/developer/Zagor) 08.45.22 Join ender` [0] (i=krneki@foo.eternallybored.org) 08.48.02 # Or rather, arm7 has a unified cache. arm9 (v4) has separate caches 08.48.31 Join flydutch [0] (n=flydutch@host5-154-dynamic.14-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) 08.48.54 Quit Rob2222 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 08.57.11 Join bmbl [0] (n=Miranda@unaffiliated/bmbl) 08.59.14 # ok, working on it :) 09.01.42 Join petur [50] (n=petur@rockbox/developer/petur) 09.04.55 Join n1s [0] (n=nils@rockbox/developer/n1s) 09.08.02 Nick Bagderr is now known as B4gder (n=daniel@rockbox/developer/bagder) 09.10.11 Join Beta2K_ [0] (n=beta@d36-78-228.home1.cgocable.net) 09.11.32 Quit bmbl (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 09.18.28 Quit Darksair ("(define zero (lambda (f) (lambda (x) x)))") 09.19.19 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 09.20.12 # we have a patch: http://pastie.org/375004 09.24.08 Quit fyrestorm (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 09.25.05 Quit Beta2K (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 09.29.00 # i also had several different versions that shifted the value itself until it was one place from overflow, rather than using clz. these were fairly complex compared to this clz, but they might be a good idea on sh - i believe you had said there is no variable shift instruction on sh? 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14.01.01 # Does the manual not say? 14.01.22 # BigBambi: not really. 14.01.39 # gives the description of the functions but not how to "set" a bookmark 14.02.25 # CPrompt^: I think it is on the WPS context menu 14.02.33 # Or you can set bookmark on stop 14.03.06 # maybe I am confused on what they mean by "on stop" 14.03.07 # I'd assume the option "Create Bookmark" is well named enough for one to infer what it does. 14.03.20 # Llorean: haven't seen that option. 14.03.24 # It's in the "Bookmarks" menu in the WPS Context menu. 14.03.39 # CPrompt^: If you stop the music, you can set it to set a bookmark automatically 14.03.49 # CPrompt^: Or ask you if you want one 14.04.04 # CPrompt^: Or, as I and Llorean said, it is on the WPS context menu 14.04.17 # If you want to set a bookmark manually 14.04.19 # I play a track. I pause it (there's no real stop on iPod I guess), go to play another track. It doesn't bookmark 14.04.40 # CPrompt^: There's stop 14.04.44 # Pausing won't create a bookmark. 14.04.54 # But stop does exist, this too should be in the manual in the description of the controls. 14.05.13 # well...where is the WPS contect menu? 14.05.21 # It is http://download.rockbox.org/manual/rockbox-ipodvideo/rockbox-buildch4.html#x7-510004.3.1 14.05.31 # CPrompt^: The manual tells you, as well as how to stop 14.05.31 # BigBambi: The WPS context menu is also described in the manual... 14.05.39 # It is in the bit I just linked to 14.05.44 # BigBambi: I know 14.05.55 # er, Llorear: I know 14.05.59 # BigBambi: Sorry, I pressed the wrong thing. 14.06.01 # god damn 14.06.04 # Llorean: 14.06.08 # hehe :) 14.19.20 Part CPrompt^ 14.30.13 Join jgarvey [0] (n=jgarvey@cpe-098-026-069-229.nc.res.rr.com) 14.35.44 Quit kugel (Remote closed the connection) 14.38.49 Join dfkt [0] (i=dfkt@unaffiliated/dfkt) 14.40.10 Join tvelocity [0] (n=tony@adsl5-251.her.forthnet.gr) 14.43.03 Join fyrestorm [0] (n=fyre@cpe-24-90-81-211.nyc.res.rr.com) 14.48.16 Join LambdaCalculus37 [0] (i=44a04303@rockbox/staff/LambdaCalculus37) 14.48.26 Join faemir [0] (n=daniel@88-106-244-173.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) 14.51.34 Join James [0] (n=44c14eb5@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-4845e3ac50eab5c5) 14.52.03 Nick James is now known as Guest29371 (n=44c14eb5@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-4845e3ac50eab5c5) 14.52.23 # Hey all - I have Rockbox on my iPod 30g and as of my last update, when I plug the ipod into the computer, nothing happens. I know there is a FORCE IT TO CONNECT procedure, but I don't remember it. Any help? 14.52.30 Nick Guest29371 is now known as James79 (n=44c14eb5@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-4845e3ac50eab5c5) 14.53.43 # Try this... from a powered-off state (shut down Rockbox), click on the hold switch, and then connect the iPod to your computer. 14.54.32 # k - one sec 14.54.49 # Rockbox doesn't have a fully working USB stack yet. 14.54.58 # Not on iPods, anyway. 14.56.09 # It was working great up until the most recent update - been using RBox for 2 years or so... 14.57.20 Join evilnick [0] (i=0c140464@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-c8ab95eb112c5fd7) 14.58.56 # James79: What version of Rockbox do you have? 14.59.21 # tell you in one sec - booting up now... although it seems to be freezing at the apple icon 14.59.23 Join japc [0] (n=japc@194.65.5.235) 15.00.04 # James79: As a bug that was fixed a day or so ago was messing up USB connecting 15.00.11 # Got it... although it's in ipod mode. 15.00.25 # BigBambi: That's probably what it is - I just installed new software. 15.00.29 # James79: And as there are many new versions every day, you saying newest doesn't mean much :) 15.00.33 # Fair 15.00.34 # =) 15.00.39 # My fault... 'a newer' 15.01.18 # Would an install of the newest release fix it? 15.01.28 # Newer than r19874 should have the fix 15.01.35 # Just install the current build 15.01.48 # Yep yep. Thanks. 15.01.56 # The current build is updated on every code change (so multiple times per day) 15.04.05 # And we're good 15.04.12 # I just happen to grab the build on the wrong day =) 15.04.37 # yep :) 15.05.00 # Bugs occasionally creep in but they are usually fixed quite quickly :) 15.05.49 # Most def. Thanks for all your help. 15.06.48 # no problem 15.07.17 Quit James79 ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 15.08.18 Join robin0800 [0] (n=chatzill@cpc3-brig8-0-0-cust436.brig.cable.ntl.com) 15.18.13 Join tvelocity[a] [0] (n=tony@adsl5-129.her.forthnet.gr) 15.19.24 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 15.20.12 Join tvelocity[away] [0] (n=tony@adsl14-104.her.forthnet.gr) 15.21.49 Quit tvelocity (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 15.27.06 Quit Horscht ("Verlassend") 15.31.10 # hmm 15.31.54 # i remember there being a patch for doom to add support for things ( dont remember but i think it was obex? ) 15.32.08 # anyone know where that is? ( i think it was a thread on the rockbox site ) 15.32.28 # ive searched the forums but cant seem to find :S 15.33.01 # sorry nvm found it 15.33.03 # What about Flyspray? 15.33.14 # yea looked on flyspray 15.33.19 # but looked for the wrong thing apparently 15.33.34 # http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/5316 15.33.42 # dehacked bex support 15.33.56 # ( didnt that get added into the official builds? ) 15.34.05 # No. 15.37.35 Quit tvelocity[a] (Connection timed out) 15.38.53 Quit robin0800 ("ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 3.0.5/2008121711]") 15.39.34 Join robin0800 [0] (n=chatzill@cpc3-brig8-0-0-cust436.brig.cable.ntl.com) 15.42.04 Quit robin0800 (Client Quit) 15.42.31 Join robin0800 [0] (n=chatzill@cpc3-brig8-0-0-cust436.brig.cable.ntl.com) 15.42.43 Part LinusN 15.44.52 Quit robin0800 (Client Quit) 15.45.19 Join robin0800 [0] (n=chatzill@cpc3-brig8-0-0-cust436.brig.cable.ntl.com) 15.50.44 # Lambda, it seems it was excepted? 15.51.01 Join domonoky [0] (n=Domonoky@rockbox/developer/domonoky) 15.51.07 # accepted* 15.51.15 # or rather added to CVS 15.57.28 Join XavierGr [0] (n=xavier@rockbox/staff/XavierGr) 15.58.20 Quit tvelocity[away] (Remote closed the connection) 15.58.23 Join Horscht [0] (n=Horscht@xbmc/user/horscht) 16.00.07 Quit robin0800 ("ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 3.0.5/2008121711]") 16.01.27 Join tvelocity [0] (n=tony@adsl14-104.her.forthnet.gr) 16.03.29 Join webguest93 [0] (n=451b53d2@91.191.140.131) 16.04.37 Quit webguest93 (Client Quit) 16.11.53 Quit perrikwp (hubbard.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 16.11.53 NSplit hubbard.freenode.net irc.freenode.net 16.11.53 Quit axionix (hubbard.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 16.11.53 Quit soap (hubbard.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 16.11.53 Quit kubzior (hubbard.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 16.14.10 NHeal hubbard.freenode.net irc.freenode.net 16.14.10 NJoin axionix [0] (n=axion@cpe-67-242-94-6.nycap.res.rr.com) 16.14.24 Join n1s [0] (n=nils@rockbox/developer/n1s) 16.19.20 Quit rocko ("Leaving") 16.26.18 NJoin soap [50] (n=soap@rockbox/staff/soap) 16.29.36 Part B4gder 16.37.14 NJoin kubzior [0] (n=kubz@unaffiliated/kubz) 16.38.44 Join bmbl [0] (n=Miranda@unaffiliated/bmbl) 16.44.58 Quit kachna ("Konversation terminated!") 16.45.35 Join toffe82 [0] (n=chatzill@h-74-0-180-178.snvacaid.covad.net) 16.46.06 Quit morloi (Remote closed the connection) 16.50.40 Quit petur ("and now for something completely different: beer!") 16.52.07 Join rocko [0] (n=rocko@c-67-167-117-152.hsd1.il.comcast.net) 17.03.16 Quit Zagor ("Client exiting") 17.06.08 Join kugel [0] (n=kugel@rockbox/developer/kugel) 17.10.12 Join acathla [0] (n=moi@acathla.dyndns.org) 17.14.04 Part acathla ("Byebye") 17.14.38 Join {phoenix} [0] (n=dirk@p54B476CB.dip.t-dialin.net) 17.17.55 # The CONTRIBUTING file says "...Don't redefine the language. No new types (structs are structs, not typedefs)..." Is that meant to disallow non-struct/union typedefs? 17.19.26 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 17.19.52 Join __lifeless [0] (n=lifeless@89.20.119.238) 17.19.58 Join miepchen^schlaf [0] (n=miepel@p579ECC1B.dip.t-dialin.net) 17.20.11 # * domonoky thinks you shouldnt use any typdefs, unless you really need them.. 17.21.00 # when do i really need them? :) i mostly just think they sometimes make my code look better, i assume that doesn't count as a necessity? 17.22.09 # * domonoky tries to think of a situation where typedefs are helpfull, but fails to find one :-) 17.22.24 Join TMM_ [0] (n=hp@5ED10264.cable.ziggo.nl) 17.22.49 Quit TMM_ (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 17.24.01 # kadoban: an argument that is often brought up is that it hides things even if it makes the code prettier 17.24.16 # typedef might make code "look" better, but it hides things, which makes it less "understandable" at least in my opinion. 17.24.51 # okay, i'll just go with that. (i don't really do C that often so my sense of it is usually bad). thanks 17.26.39 # How would people feel about reserving disk space for dircache (and other features that might use a chunk of disk) once enabled so it's impossible to lose the ability to use the feature during syncing? 17.28.10 # not good if that would mean rockbox behaves like the sansa OF (i.e. refuse to boot with the message "Please free 30MB for the music database") 17.28.13 Join yhuang [0] (n=yhuang@unaffiliated/yhuang) 17.28.32 # kugel: The point is to avoid that... 17.28.46 # Reserve the space when you first turn it on, or refuse to enable the feature, so that you *never* need to free more space for it. 17.29.10 # so rather disable the feature, instead of refusing to boot? that sounds ok 17.29.30 # * Llorean sighs. 17.29.33 # not disable the feature 17.29.35 # Refuse to enable it. 17.29.44 # How do you calculate the needed space? 17.29.54 # gevaerts: Both dircache and database have maximum sizes. 17.30.25 # Doesn't the maximum dayabase size depend on the total number of files? 17.30.51 # gevaerts: You can have more files than the database can deal with. 17.31.19 # Same with dircache. 17.32.38 # * gevaerts thinks that this is a limitation that should be solved at some point, not set in stone by depending on it 17.32.53 # Llorean: sorry, I thought it was about running out of space after the feature was already turned on 17.33.03 # * evilnick thinks 640 files ought to be enough for anyone 17.33.08 # gevaerts: Another alternative is to reserve a "reasonable" amount of space, and never free it *unless* the disk turns out to be full, at which point we also issue a warning. 17.33.55 # * gevaerts thinks 17.34.48 # Isn't the database transactional? I think making the database update fail gracefully (i.e. stop updating, leave the database as it was before, tell the user) would be the proper solution for this 17.35.32 # The problem is that in the iTunes case, it's very difficult to trim down your collection from the player to get database working again. 17.35.39 Quit _lifeless (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 17.36.16 # One could end up on a trip with a player that will require 30 minutes of work just to track down the few songs he wants to remove just to get database working again. 17.36.29 # we are notoriously bad at error messages :) 17.36.59 # How would this reserving work anyway? 17.37.23 # I would assume just an empty file that sits around until we resize it and use that space. 17.37.45 # we could just create a dummy file of a predefined size-current db size 17.38.13 # Even if there's not a max size of the database, we could approximate a reasonable database size to reserve. 17.38.31 # For example (avg filename length) * (disk size / 4MB) 17.38.47 # So you have to create that file on shutdown, or on entering USB mode 17.38.53 # Rather (avg file entry size) * blah 17.38.57 # but really i don't think this problem is common or severe enough to have a complicated solution like this and would rather just see graceful failure handling and a helpful error message 17.39.09 # gevaerts: You create the file on enabling database, and any time the database is rewritten. 17.39.11 # * gevaerts doesn't like this solution 17.39.29 Join MethoS [0] (n=lem@host-091-096-214-059.ewe-ip-backbone.de) 17.39.46 # n1s: I agree 17.39.48 # n1s: The problem is that a graceful failure doesn't allow you to fix it. 17.40.04 # on ipod, if you use itunes 17.40.04 # A graiceful failure is just a way of saying "we couldn't come up with a way to actually prevent the problem" 17.40.47 # You *can't* prevent the problem in general 17.40.58 # The user can, if they know it's a potential one in advance. 17.41.06 # Llorean: i just don't think it's worht the complication to prevent this problem 17.42.27 Join kachna [0] (n=kachna@r3g248.net.upc.cz) 17.42.28 # I haven't experienced this problem even once 17.43.26 # * gevaerts doesn't think that we should add hackish failure prone code on all targets to work around itunes limitations 17.43.34 # kugel: Do you fill up your player with as much audio as you can possibly fit on it? 17.43.42 # yes 17.43.53 # gevaerts: I don't see as it would be any more failure prone than our existing method is... 17.44.22 # although, the sansa users need to have some free space anyway, due to the stupid of 17.44.47 # kugel: So in other words, you haven't filled it all the way because you keep some room to deal with the OF's problems... 17.44.57 # so my experience probably doesn't count, but sansa users wouldn't need a fix for that too (unti usb is working right) 17.45.00 # Llorean: the existing method is a bit buggy, in that it doesn't fail gracefully (apparently, I don't know...). If that's fixed, the user can easily solve things by removing one file and telling rockbox to update again 17.45.20 # If that's not possible, the database should still have all files that were on the player before the last update 17.45.54 # gevaerts: The database can be loaded by parts. It may not be possible to keep it all in RAM in the worst cases (once the limit is removed) 17.46.02 # How would you know in advance whether the new database will fit or not? 17.47.16 # I guess we'd end up with "Not all songs could be added, free up space and try again"? 17.47.17 # Llorean: from my understanding (which is based on what the update process shows, so it may be wrong), updating the database writes new "transaction" files, which then get committed. 17.47.32 # So yes, you'd get something like that. 17.48.17 # I don't see why an idea of reserving some space is actually "bad" though 17.48.39 # Even something simple like putting 100 dummy entries in the database that aren't displayed, then replacing them if space is tight, and providing a warning. 17.49.09 # Well "simple" as in "not dealing with external files" rather 17.50.03 # That would help *if* you add less than that number at a time 17.50.29 # It would be exactly equivalent to just failing gracefully in other cases 17.51.16 # There's no way to prevent failure ever if there's no maximum database size. But you can reduce the odds of it happening dramatically, I think. 17.51.26 Join bertrik [0] (n=bertrik@ip117-49-211-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl) 17.52.05 # Ah well. 17.52.37 # The main reason I object to a reservation file is that I think it adds interesting failure modes (what if that file isn't the correct size, due to e.g. the user hard-resetting the player?) 17.53.49 # I also don't see the database update failing as that bad (if it's handled gracefully, i.e. the user gets told about it, and it doesn't leave corrupt files around) 17.54.30 # I think database needs to be as close to "always works" as we can make it. 17.54.56 Quit MethoS (Remote closed the connection) 17.54.58 # If filetree were good enough most of the time, we probably wouldn't find database worth the binsize cost anyway, we'd have stuck to the search plugin. 17.57.41 # I agree. I just don't think that reserving space is a good way to achieve that goal 17.57.51 # the filetree is clearly superior! 18.02.17 Quit fyrestorm (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 18.02.31 Quit faemir ("Lost terminal") 18.02.39 Join fyrestorm [0] (n=fyre@cpe-24-90-81-211.nyc.res.rr.com) 18.06.29 Quit rocko ("Leaving") 18.10.18 Join rocko [0] (n=rocko@c-67-167-117-152.hsd1.il.comcast.net) 18.11.07 Quit {phoenix} (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 18.13.20 Join nuonguy [0] (n=john@c-24-6-174-132.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) 18.17.43 Quit sarixe ("Connection reset by the motherfucking peer") 18.18.46 Join tessarakt [0] (n=jens@e180064063.adsl.alicedsl.de) 18.22.42 Quit orsonj ("leaving") 18.24.39 Join moos [0] (i=Mustapha@rockbox/staff/moos) 18.25.25 Quit kugel (Remote closed the connection) 18.31.41 # Llorean, gevaerts: Dircache has a size limitation. Iirc it is 6MB, which however doesn't correspond to a fixed number of files 18.32.16 # And there's no disk space to reserve for this, as it needs no diskspace. Dircache lives in RAM, exclusively 18.32.49 # amiconn: How does it avoid needing to completely rescan on boot, then? 18.32.54 # The database otoh has no size limit (unless it's loaded to RAM, but I don't know the limit for that) 18.33.27 # Llorean: Dircache *always* rescans on boot, just that it usually does it in the background 18.33.49 # amiconn: except when rockbox is flashed on H1xx 18.33.49 Quit kachna (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 18.34.03 # A foreground scan has to be done if the previous dircache size is unknown 18.34.28 # Slasheri: I consider that unsupported, as the necessary bootloader is not official 18.34.45 # amiconn: and how do you define what is official or not? 18.35.05 # Slasheri: Easy, what we've officially released on the download server... 18.35.07 # Is this bootloader installed via rbutil? Does the bootloader download dir contain it? 18.35.26 # Llorean: well, true.. that should be uploaded to the server 18.35.29 # Bootloaders aren't official until they're the "supported" bootloader in the manual and rbutil. 18.35.29 # You're right, in such a case it dumps the dircache buffer to disk. But afaik this isn't mandatory 18.36.18 # LinusN should test it on his h1x0 18.36.53 # * amiconn doesn't dare to install it on his h180... 18.36.59 # amiconn: 7pre4 is pretty widely tested. 18.37.04 Quit Darksair ("Use the Force, Luke!") 18.37.11 # It's really as safe as we can assume an H100-series bootloader to be. 18.37.30 # It really ought to be renamed to 7 and pushed out, maybe with 3.2 18.37.36 Join orsonj [0] (n=orson@b22222.bookstore.usu.edu) 18.38.20 Quit yhuang ("Leaving") 18.39.52 Join {phoenix} [0] (n=dirk@p54B476CB.dip.t-dialin.net) 18.41.45 # amiconn: There are quite a lot of us using 7pre4 for ages now with zero issues 18.42.30 # It is pretty well tested 18.46.52 Join Zoxc [0] (i=Zoxc@ti0128a340-dhcp0017.bb.online.no) 18.48.59 # * amiconn wonders whether Linus should lend Flasheri a H300 ... 18.53.32 Quit miepchen^schlaf () 19.07.27 Quit Seed (Nick collision from services.) 19.07.32 Join Seed [0] (n=ben@bzq-84-108-232-45.cablep.bezeqint.net) 19.18.24 Quit bmbl ("Woah!") 19.18.41 Quit Seed (Nick collision from services.) 19.18.45 Join Seedy [0] (n=ben@bzq-84-108-232-45.cablep.bezeqint.net) 19.19.30 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 19.21.21 Join planetbeing [0] (n=planetbe@67-207-128-206.slicehost.net) 19.33.15 Join domonoky1 [0] (n=Domonoky@g229188141.adsl.alicedsl.de) 19.42.26 Quit rocko ("Leaving") 19.43.46 Quit japc ("Ex-Chat") 19.51.34 Quit domonoky (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 20.02.23 Join kachna [0] (n=kachna@r4ax178.net.upc.cz) 20.07.51 Join z35 [0] (n=z35@h162.20.89.75.dynamic.ip.windstream.net) 20.11.14 Quit linuxstb (Remote closed the connection) 20.21.09 Quit Makuseru (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 20.25.45 Join bmbl [0] (n=Miranda@dsl58-189.pool.bitel.net) 20.26.03 Quit bmbl (Client Quit) 20.32.29 Quit merbzt1 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 20.37.50 Quit gevaerts ("rebooting. Hopefully back soon") 20.38.10 Join ^Migs^ [0] (n=Migs@wsddevdude.weber.k12.ut.us) 20.38.38 # <^Migs^> if I flash my Sansa e260 with Rockbox, and I decide I don't want it, will the Sansa Firmware Updater be able to flash back the original firmware? 20.38.52 # ^Migs^: Yes. 20.38.53 # <^Migs^> or will it just cause some error that says, "THIS IS NOT A SANSA! FAIL!" 20.39.00 # ^Migs^: No 20.39.03 # <^Migs^> okay, perfect. 20.39.27 # <^Migs^> thanks :) 20.39.32 # Even though Rockbox is installed, you can easily boot into the OF (Original Firmware) and it'll update as usual 20.39.38 # uninstall information are in the installation chapter of our manual too 20.39.50 # <^Migs^> yeah I'm reading the manual right now, trying to figure all this out 20.40.23 # <^Migs^> what if I don't want to keep the original firmware? 20.40.37 # It's a *VERY* good idea to throroughly read the Fine manual a few times when you first use Rockbox, as most/all questions are answered there. 20.40.51 # ^Migs^: It is still needed for USB connection (and hence file transfer) 20.41.03 # <^Migs^> oh ok 20.41.08 # (for the time being) 20.41.37 # <^Migs^> Rockbox seems sweet 20.42.03 # Once the Rockbox USB mode works then the only "advantage" of the OF would be DRM supported files. And a more eye-candy look. 20.42.40 # <^Migs^> does it work well with the Sansa wheel? 20.43.40 # <^Migs^> I bought this e260 for a friend, and I'm considering loading Rockbox on it for her, but I'm not sure if she'll like it as much as the original firmware 20.43.54 Join gregzx [0] (n=chatzill@dta86.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) 20.44.05 # <^Migs^> and I'm a little hesitant to try loading Rockbox until I know what I'm doing a little better...maybe I need to get a second one to just dink around with 20.44.59 # ^Migs^: I would suggest that you play around with it and see what it can do in both firmwares. I'd be shocked if she understood how powerful Rockbox is and *still* preferred the OF. 20.45.48 # <^Migs^> the main reason I'd want to load Rockbox is for the MP3 bookmarking functionality. She'll be using it for her audiobooks. 20.46.05 # <^Migs^> everything else, I doubt she'll have much interest in. Maybe a few of the games. 20.46.08 Join |mr [0] (n=lymeca@student164-85.hampshire.edu) 20.47.37 # With the Sansa E2x0 series you can use the micro SDHC cards (up to 16GB [I think that 32GB have been announced but aren't available yet]) but the OF is limited to the microSD versions. 20.50.11 Join tvelocity[a] [0] (n=tony@adsl16-43.her.forthnet.gr) 20.50.31 # <_Auron_> except for v2 OF 20.50.53 # <^Migs^> awesome 20.51.13 # That is a very good point. ^Migs^, do you know what version of the OF it's running? 20.54.06 # <^Migs^> 3.01.16A 20.54.11 # <^Migs^> latest one...I just updated it 20.54.26 # <_Auron_> then you have a v2, which rockbox doesn't support yet 20.54.30 # Bad news, that's a v2 Sansa and so it isn't supported 20.54.32 # Darn! 20.56.56 Quit HBK (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 20.57.31 # <^Migs^> crap 20.57.38 # <^Migs^> good thing I asked...I had no clue 20.58.05 # <^Migs^> <--- noob 20.58.44 Join tvelocity[away] [0] (n=tony@adsl26-186.her.forthnet.gr) 21.03.48 Join rocko [0] (n=rocko@c-67-167-117-152.hsd1.il.comcast.net) 21.04.29 Quit tvelocity[a] (Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)) 21.04.43 Join adamgolding [0] (n=adamgold@i209-195-94-204.cia.com) 21.04.48 Quit rocko (Remote closed the connection) 21.05.31 # is there any actual way to rate files on the rockbox portable and get those ratings onto the PC somehow? I have searched many times for such a method but have come up empty :-( 21.06.45 Quit tvelocity (Connection timed out) 21.09.47 Join miepchen^schlaf [0] (n=miepel@dslb-088-074-045-239.pools.arcor-ip.net) 21.10.13 # adamgolding: the rating function is availabe in the WPS context menu when the database is initialized and "gather runtime data" is enabled. you can get the ratings on the PC by exporting the database changelog, but you'll have to find a way to "extract" the ratings from the generated database_changelog.txt file. 21.10.22 Join rocko [0] (n=rocko@c-67-167-117-152.hsd1.il.comcast.net) 21.11.03 Join gevaerts [0] (n=fg@rockbox/developer/gevaerts) 21.11.30 # PaulJam yeah i meant, an existing method for the extraction 21.11.51 # i'm very surprised if no program has tried to extract the rockbox ratings, but i can't seem to find any 21.15.56 Quit rocko ("Leaving") 21.18.06 Quit moos (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 21.19.35 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 21.23.11 Join moos [0] (i=Mustapha@rockbox/staff/moos) 21.24.27 Join john [0] (n=john@c-98-240-93-244.hsd1.tn.comcast.net) 21.24.56 Nick john is now known as Guest96421 (n=john@c-98-240-93-244.hsd1.tn.comcast.net) 21.25.01 Nick Guest96421 is now known as e280_owner (n=john@c-98-240-93-244.hsd1.tn.comcast.net) 21.27.05 # Just upgraded my sansa e280 to rockbox 3.1. Problem is there is no .rockbox/rockbox.e200 file on the e280, and I didn't find one in the rockbox-sansae200-3.1.zip file, nor did the sansapatcher install it. Any clues? 21.27.18 # Therefore my e280 won't boot 21.29.13 Quit miepchen^schlaf () 21.31.38 # e280_owner: what version were you running previously? 21.31.52 # rockbox 3.0 stable release 21.32.37 Join Aurix_Lexico [0] (n=comrade@c-68-56-205-239.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) 21.32.51 # I uninstalled 3.0 first before attempting 3.1 21.32.57 # also I'm on OSX 21.33.17 # Anyway there is no rockbox.e200 file. It's called rockbox.mi4 21.33.27 # Did you use rbutil? 21.33.37 # ok well thats on there - the mi4 file 21.33.57 # well I tried rbutil at first, but it didn't work 21.34.06 # so I tried manual after that 21.34.24 # here is the specific error - (it will take me a while to type it) 21.35.11 # Rockbox boot loader 5.0 21.35.59 # woops sorry let me restart 21.36.14 # Rockbox boot loader 21.36.25 # Version: 5.0 21.36.39 # Sandisk Sansa e200 21.37.37 # Partition 0: 0x0B 7649 MB 21.37.57 # Partition 1: 0x84 20 MB 21.38.13 # Loading Rockbox... 21.38.47 # Can't load rockbox.mi4: 21.39.00 # File not found 21.39.07 Join Jaykay [0] (n=chatzill@p579E7D4A.dip.t-dialin.net) 21.39.17 # e280_owner: Next time, use a pastebin to post that many lines of information. Please do not flood the channel like that. 21.39.18 # Can't load rockbox.e200: 21.39.23 # File not found 21.39.41 # ok 21.39.59 # OK. Are you sure .rockbox/rockbox.mi4 is definitely there? I seem to remember issues about Mac OSX not unzipping the directory with the correct name 21.40.58 # drwxrwxr-x 21 john admin 714 Jan 30 14:12 .rockbox 21.41.22 # -rw-rw-r-- 1 john admin 583680 Dec 23 15:51 rockbox.mi4 21.41.39 # rockbox.mi4 located in ./rockbox 21.41.51 # sorry ./.rockbox 21.42.33 # hm. that should be ok... 21.42.57 # yes I know.. I could boot ubuntu on a CD & try to install it using that 21.43.35 # I have a Windows partition, but unfortunately the rbutil cannot find the sansa (a known bug) 21.43.51 # Does the original firmware work properly? 21.43.57 # yes 21.44.00 Join pyro_maniac [0] (n=jens@p4FEEBD83.dip.t-dialin.net) 21.45.09 # Can you try checking the filesystem for errors? 21.45.26 # ok 21.48.38 Quit Jaykay ("ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 3.0.5/2008120122]") 21.48.44 # no good 21.48.46 Quit ^Migs^ (Remote closed the connection) 21.49.10 # I'll boot ubuntu from a cd & try everything from scratch with it 21.49.33 # e280_owner: "I have a Windows partition, but unfortunately the rbutil cannot find the sansa (a known bug)" - really? 21.50.02 # yes 21.50.05 # http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/9729 21.50.21 # it says e250, but it seems to also affect mine 21.50.49 Quit Xerion (Connection timed out) 21.51.38 # let me try ubuntu 21.51.42 # bbl 21.51.46 # Ah, okay. Try selecting it manually under windows 21.51.57 # ok 21.51.59 # brb 21.52.25 Quit e280_owner () 21.54.37 Join linuxstb [0] (n=linuxstb@rockbox/developer/linuxstb) 21.54.38 Join dcrock [0] (n=8b5e4a03@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-7722727b129ef859) 21.57.00 Quit dcrock (Client Quit) 21.59.19 Quit LambdaCalculus37 ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") 22.03.44 Quit linuxstb ("Leaving") 22.07.12 Quit adamgolding (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 22.09.22 Join linuxstb [0] (n=linuxstb@rockbox/developer/linuxstb) 22.12.50 Join superdump [0] (n=rob@unaffiliated/superdump) 22.12.57 # hello 22.13.03 # i am from ffmpeg 22.13.23 # hi superdump 22.13.36 # i'm wondering why you've optimised our flac decoder and not contributed your efforts back to us 22.13.39 # http://svn.rockbox.org/viewvc.cgi/trunk/apps/codecs/libffmpegFLAC/arm.S?view=log 22.14.10 # that's probably not the only optimization we've done either... 22.14.46 # that only makes things worse... 22.15.25 # but I don't know what the authors of that have done or not in regards to feeding the fixes back "upstream" 22.16.29 # but of course, you're also free to "suck them" back 22.16.38 # not the same thing, I know 22.18.05 # superdump: It's a two-way thing - ffmpeg also took Rockbox's APE decoder, and no patches were offered back to us... 22.18.13 Join john [0] (n=chatzill@c-98-240-93-244.hsd1.tn.comcast.net) 22.18.23 Nick john is now known as e280_owner (n=chatzill@c-98-240-93-244.hsd1.tn.comcast.net) 22.18.36 # manual install under windows xp worked 22.19.05 # thanks gevaerts and evilnick for your help 22.19.08 # e280_owner: Yay! 22.19.23 # There must be something strange going on... Glad you've got it working though 22.19.33 Join HBK [0] (n=hbk@pool-71-96-74-73.dfw.dsl-w.verizon.net) 22.19.34 # superdump: Also, we make lots of changes to ffmpeg codecs to fit them into Rockbox. Creating patches for ffmpeg with optimisations would of course be good, but I would imagine the people that have done the work for Rockbox don't feel motivated to do it again for ffmpeg... 22.20.09 # can't explain it except that I had to install 3.0 under windows because osx install had a problem then too 22.20.20 Quit XavierGr (Nick collision from services.) 22.20.31 Join XavierGr [0] (n=xavier@rockbox/staff/XavierGr) 22.21.28 # current version is r19569-081223 on my e280 22.22.00 # linuxstb: would some of those changes produce performance decreases on non-embedded devices? 22.22.14 # That's definitely 3.1. We forgot to put in the correct version number unfortunately 22.22.33 # * Bagder accepts the blame for that... 22.22.43 # thanks for your help & thanks to all the rockbox developers for all the time they spend making rockbox better !! You guys rock. 22.22.51 # * Bagder puts on the funny hat and stands in the corner 22.22.53 # godday 22.22.57 # goodday 22.23.08 Quit e280_owner (Client Quit) 22.23.44 Join Xerion [0] (n=xerion@cp198589-d.landg1.lb.home.nl) 22.27.20 Quit |mr (Connection timed out) 22.27.27 # superdump: No, I don't think so, but then again, I don't think many of the people here have expertise on optimising for CPUs like x86. 22.27.50 # we have arm optimisations and an arm ASM guru over at ffmpeg :) 22.28.17 # and we optimized that ... .-) 22.28.18 # iirc ipods use arm and so do other such devices 22.28.23 # further? 22.28.31 # A (very) few optimisations are generic, i.e. C 22.29.05 # Many otpimisations are target specific, i.e. mostly ARM as far as software codecs are concerned 22.29.19 # ARM v4, v5 and v6, and some coldfire v2 targets 22.29.20 # superdump: Most of our devices use ARM (v4, v5 or v6). 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Apple seem to have done a decent job encrypting the firmware to prevent third-party replacements, and no-one has found a way around that yet. 23.17.59 Quit perrikwp ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") 23.18.07 Join perrikwp [0] (i=4aa794a0@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-2b0574664e90b48e) 23.18.17 # Okay 23.18.30 # If I was to try and hack it, where would I begin? 23.18.50 Join perrikwp_ [0] (n=chatzill@74.167.148.160) 23.19.02 Quit perrikwp_ (Client Quit) 23.19.37 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 23.19.51 # I think by seeing if apple provides firmware updates for the ipod and trying to make sense of the firmware update file 23.19.55 Quit pixelma (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 23.20.07 # Okay 23.20.22 # Where could I find the latest iPod Classic 6G update? 23.20.22 # Off the apple website? 23.20.32 Join pixelma [0] (n=pixelma@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 23.21.20 # we're not the ones with ipod 6th gen... 23.21.22 # Wiredbomb0, I have no idea to be honest, I don't have an ipod myself 23.21.52 # Oh, okay then 23.22.04 # Wiredbomb0: This is a nice front-end to Apple's website - http://www.felixbruns.de/iPod/firmware/ 23.22.48 # Those updates are encrypted - that's the problem... 23.23.25 # Damn 23.23.30 # That site hasn't got a 6G 23.23.42 # I got my 6G for christmas that's why I got a 6G 23.23.44 Join Thundercloud [0] (n=thunderc@cpc3-hem18-0-0-cust53.lutn.cable.ntl.com) 23.23.47 # linuxstb, we don't know anything about the encryption at all? like block size, key size, algorithm family? 23.23.47 # "Classic" = 6G 23.24.32 # bertrik: Nope. We know what Apple used in their previous firmwares (to encrypt the flash-ROM image which is part of the firmware image), but I don't think anyone has any hard facts about the newer ipods. 23.24.46 # (code to encrypt/decrypt that is in ipodpatcher) 23.25.23 # Okay 23.25.36 # Couldn't we like hex-edit the iPod Patcher and find out how it works? 23.25.46 # You can read the C source code... 23.26.05 # Assuming "iPod Patcher" is ipodpatcher. 23.26.32 # Damn 23.26.44 # Was never good a C 23.26.52 # * bertrik vaguely remembers seeing pictures of someone who desoldered a flash chip from an ipod and soldered wires to it 23.27.00 Join nuonguy [0] (n=john@c-24-6-174-132.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) 23.27.13 # a second gen nano I believe 23.27.24 # Okay 23.27.29 # Wiredbomb0: ipodpatcher is a Rockbox utility (I wrote it) to manipulate the firmware partition on the older ipods - it's main use is to inject the Rockbox bootloader into it. It won't work on the newer ipods. 23.27.39 # bertrik: but all that achived was an encrypted dump from a flash... 23.27.57 # Okay 23.28.36 # But (just checking if my logic is right), couldn't you overwrite the code that the iPod runs to get from Boot Disk mode to like Play mode? 23.29.11 # The problem is that that code is encrypted - and we don't know how to encrypt our own code to replace what's there. So the ipod wouldn't load it. 23.29.33 Join casainho [0] (n=chatzill@87.196.141.219) 23.29.48 Quit perrikwp ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") 23.30.03 # hello :-) 23.30.05 # Bagder, ok, nice try though 23.30.43 # I am getting this error: debug_menu.c:(.text+0xf9c): undefined reference to `card_get_info_target' 23.31.28 # however I am not seeing any reference to card_get_info_target on debug_menu.c ?? 23.32.02 # what can be the problem? 23.32.56 # casainho: Try searching the firmware/ code for "card_get_info_target". Perhaps it's a macro. e.g. "grep -r card_get_info_target firmware | grep -v svn" 23.34.39 # indeed, hotswap.h defines it 23.35.06 # yes, linuxstb were right :-) -- it's equal to "card_get_info" 23.35.42 # * linuxstb thought macros should be upper-case... 23.35.43 Quit Wiredbomb0 ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 23.36.44 Join Wiredbomb0 [0] (n=3aaae430@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-25c7df64ac2b4bf5) 23.37.07 # Hey again guys 23.38.04 # I've got the Apple Device Software Update File, does that mean anything? 23.39.26 # on this line: int sd_write_sectors(IF_MV2(int drive,) unsigned long start, int count, const void* buf) 23.39.53 # I am getting this warning: warning: initialization discards qualifiers from pointer target type 23.40.02 # is there a way to not have that wrning? 23.40.50 # Wiredbomb0: It means you downloaded a file off the internet. 23.41.08 # the warning is because of the const in the const void* 23.41.45 # rasher, I'm afraid not, I got this file through iTunes 23.41.52 # When I updated my 6G iPod 23.42.04 # Wiredbomb0: And I suppose it just appeared out of nowhere? 23.42.23 # bertrik: so, should I remove the "const" ? 23.43.00 # I'm afraid not 23.43.12 # Where it was when I found, it's no longer there now 23.43.56 Quit tessarakt ("Client exiting") 23.45.43 # Wiredbomb0: What's the filenname? 23.45.54 # casainho, I think the prototype of the function should stay the same as in the header file. Is the warning really on that line or is it on a cast of const void* buf? 23.45.55 # iPod_33.2.0.1.ipsw 23.46.16 # Which is the file from the site I linked you to earlier. 23.46.52 # I didn't see any files 23.46.56 # for my iPod 23.47.15 # All the files on that site were for 5.5g or before 23.47.18 # Your ipod is the Classic 2G. 23.47.24 # No it's not 23.47.32 # OK, it's not... 23.47.33 # It's the iPod Classic 6G 120gb 23.47.55 # Humour me, and select the Classic 2G download from that site. 23.48.38 # I'm afraid I've lost the link, would you please send it again? 23.48.58 # http://www.felixbruns.de/iPod/firmware/ 23.49.05 # This channel is also logged - http://www.rockbox.org/irc/ 23.49.23 # bertrik: sorry, I am not seeing that warning again... but later on code I do: uint8_t *addr_buf = buf; 23.49.47 # Damn 23.49.50 # What the heck? 23.50.08 # How the hell does that work? 23.50.24 # How the hell does what work? 23.51.09 # That makes no sence 23.52.07 # It makes perfect sense. The 6G is the Classic. The first Classics were 80GB/160GB, the second Classics are 120GB. You have a second generation Classic. 23.52.16 # How does the Classic iPod differ from the Nano or Video? 23.52.23 # In every way possible. 23.52.33 # New hardware, new software. 23.52.49 # Hence the reason Rockbox doesn't work on them. 23.53.06 # When was the first Classic iPod released? 23.53.40 # September 2007 I think. 23.54.05 # Damn 23.54.20 # So basically, the iPod_33.2.0.1.ipsw is useless in trying to hack the iPod? 23.55.01 # No, that's what you need to hack in order to hack your ipod. Or find another way to run your own code - e.g. exploit bugs in the Apple firmware such as buffer overflows. 23.55.54 # Okay, so basically iPod_33.2.0.1.ipsw is the building blocks on hacking the iPod, right? 23.58.00 Quit {phoenix} (Remote closed the connection)