--- Log for 31.01.109 Server: hubbard.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 1 day and 0 hours ago 00.00.55 # I am trying to build the firmware, and I get the error: main.c:(.text+0x414): undefined reference to `i2c_init'. My hardware do no use I2C, is there a way to not build it? 00.01.46 Join Rob2222 [0] (n=Miranda@p4FDCDCD0.dip.t-dialin.net) 00.02.05 # or I need to make a stub for i2c_init() ? 00.09.38 Join XxXSparkXxX [0] (n=7bd32bde@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-55cec8c6d65a6392) 00.13.28 # Does anyone know if http://www.ipodwizard.net/showthread.php?t=30444 will work on an iPod Classic 120gb? 00.14.10 # Whoops 00.14.12 # Never mind 00.14.17 # Read the title wrong >_< 00.16.30 Join [1]TruthTaco [0] (i=TruthTac@adsl-154-81-190.aby.bellsouth.net) 00.19.09 Quit ender` (" Kiss a pair of boobs and the movie's rated R. 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03.56.28 # the source is in the rockbox source - tools/mknkboot.c 03.58.14 Join Chesteta [0] (n=Chesteta@dyn53-149.res-hall.ndsu.NoDak.edu) 03.58.15 # hey unhelpful 03.58.19 # you are being mighty helpful 03.58.23 # ;) 03.58.46 # hello, I am having some trouble compiling the latest build for my sansa e200v2 (Normal build) 03.59.25 Quit ditto ("quit") 03.59.53 # you know...im curious about the "recovery method" mentioned in the wiki 03.59.56 # does that acually work? 04.00.09 # or is it flawed in some way 04.00.31 # which recovery method? for which target? 04.00.35 # ( for e200v2's ) 04.00.42 # sorry...meant to add that in 04.01.04 # ah, that i don't know 04.01.26 # I redownloaded everything; deleted everything in the /rockbox folder except for .svn and then did a "svn update" to make sure everything was fine however after making a build directory and then running ../tools/configure and then running a make I am getting lots of errors... 04.01.28 # it talks about adding a bridge between 2 pads... which should allow you to reformat/flash the device 04.01.34 # Chesteta: it's not really a usable target, right now - that's why we don't have nice binaries ready. 04.01.52 # but i have yet to hear anyone acually try this 04.02.12 # unhelpful: I understood, it has been atleast compiling in the past though 04.02.18 # understand* 04.02.41 # Chesteta: pastebin your errors, maybe? "lots of errors" doesn't mean much 04.02.56 # i'm on it, give me a min 04.05.02 # In file included from /home/Matt/rockbox/apps/codecs.h:50, 04.05.03 # from /home/Matt/rockbox/apps/plugin.h:67, 04.05.03 # from /home/Matt/rockbox/apps/plugins/properties.c:21: 04.05.03 DBUG Enqueued KICK Chesteta 04.05.03 # should be in autoconf.h) 04.05.35 # (there are alot of those for different files its trying to make) 04.05.55 # should be in autoconf.h) 04.05.55 # cc1: error: config.h: No such file or directory 04.05.55 # cc1: error: config.h: No such file or directory 04.05.55 *** Alert Mode level 1 04.05.55 # cc1: error: config.h: No such file or directory 04.05.55 *** Alert Mode level 2 04.05.55 *** Alert Mode level 3 04.05.55 # cc1: error: config.h: No such file or directory 04.05.56 *** Alert Mode level 4 04.05.56 # make: *** No rule to make target `/home/Matt/rockbox/firmware/firmware.make'. S 04.05.58 # top. 04.06.00 # it ends with that 04.06.32 # I will try and get some errors from the begining because I believe those are a bit different 04.07.14 # should be in autoconf.h) 04.07.14 # cc1: error: config.h: No such file or directory 04.07.14 # cc1: error: config.h: No such file or directory 04.07.14 *** Alert Mode level 5 04.07.14 *** Alert Mode level 6 04.07.14 # cc1: error: config.h: No such file or directory 04.07.14 *** Alert Mode level 7 04.07.14 *** Alert Mode level 8 04.07.14 # cc1: error: config.h: No such file or directory 04.07.15 *** Alert Mode level 9 04.07.15 # make: *** No rule to make target `/home/Matt/rockbox/firmware/firmware.make'. S 04.07.17 # top. 04.08.11 # should have pastebin'd that 04.08.16 # lol 04.08.20 # how do i do that? lol 04.08.34 # I have not used mirc much lately, used it alot when i was younger 04.08.40 # also unhelpful, apparently the unbricking recovery method has been revised since i last looked 04.08.42 Join blkhawk- [0] (n=blkhawk@g228066156.adsl.alicedsl.de) 04.08.45 Join Barahir [0] (n=jonathan@Xddb5.x.pppool.de) 04.08.58 # http://rafb.net/paste/ 04.09.06 # :P 04.09.21 # paste it there...makes reading it alot easier ;) 04.10.36 # http://rafb.net/p/q7ilqd99.html 04.10.45 # cool, thanks for teaching me that 04.11.34 # note, that is after running the make again, it didn't spit out as much as the first time running the make... idk why it didn't 04.12.32 # you already ran the config file right? to compile? 04.12.49 # you mean ../tools/configure 04.12.51 Join mikero123 [0] (n=60edb45f@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-06e30661c4a63666) 04.12.59 # yea 04.13.00 # then I entered 56 (e200v2) 04.13.02 # yea 04.13.04 # ahh 04.13.46 # hi folks, I have a question about doom on my c200, every time I try to run I get a data abort any hints 04.14.14 Join saratoga [0] (n=41becb3b@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-6684d41a3635fd76) 04.15.31 # I selected N for normal build too.... :/ 04.17.16 *** Alert Mode OFF 04.17.37 # Chesteta: your source checkout is probably screwed up 04.17.51 # check it out from svn into a different folder, and try again 04.17.59 # the current svn code compiles without error 04.18.04 # Chesteta: you say you deleted *everything* except .svn? 04.18.20 Join sprky [0] (n=7bd32bde@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-0cfe4912093d193d) 04.18.37 # unhelpful: yes 04.18.53 # because there's a .svn for each subdirectory - i'd suggest you just delete the rockbox directory itself, and check out again. 04.19.02 # saratoga: Thanks, I will try it 04.19.20 # if you want to clean your source directory of changes, i'd suggest you use svn revert -R . 04.19.21 Quit sprky (Client Quit) 04.20.06 # ok, Ill let ya know if it works 04.20.13 Quit Barahir_ (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 04.22.45 # excuse me Unhelpful, how do i compile it? i dont have c++ or anything... i know this is probabally classed as 'warez' but could u possibly send the exe to me? 04.23.22 # it's not "warez" or anything, but i don't *have* a windows mknkboot, nor the tools to build it. 04.24.54 Quit blkhawk (No route to host) 04.25.10 # also, i should point out that without mknkboot, you still have a working rockbox, that can do pretty much everything the OF can do, except play wmv movies 04.25.39 Nick blkhawk- is now known as blkhawk (n=blkhawk@g228066156.adsl.alicedsl.de) 04.26.16 Join nuonguy [0] (n=john@c-24-6-174-132.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) 04.28.52 # im trying to get my gigabeat s30 to work thats all 04.29.11 # and the nk.bin file that i downloaded from this site is only 77kb 04.29.23 # and i read it needs to be about 12.5mb 04.29.48 # i think 77kb is correct 04.29.55 # it's a bootloader. the ~13MB one is the dual-boot version you get after patching the rockbox nk.bin into an OF one. 04.29.56 # ok 04.30.20 # hell all of rockbox isn't 12MB 04.30.42 Quit miepchen^schlaf (Read error: 101 (Network is unreachable)) 04.30.52 # so i transfer nk.bin to my gigabeat's firmware bit? 04.31.22 # 'sendfirm.exe' i mean 04.34.39 Join Rob2223 [0] (n=Miranda@p4FDCE9B4.dip.t-dialin.net) 04.37.57 # XxXSparkXxX: you *use* sendfirm.exe to transfer nk.bin to your gigabeat 04.37.59 # hey it appears to be working, thanks for your help guys (or gals) 04.38.28 # and then leave USB plugged in, it should show up as a drive, and then you can unpack rockbox onto it. 04.39.38 # ah ok i understand now 04.39.39 # thankyou 04.41.07 # hi folks, I have a question about doom on my c200, every time I try to run I get a data abort any hints, also with I just installed version 3.1 and now the database never actually completes updating , I only have a few files on the device. 04.41.11 # PSPdemon: Yes, the e200v2 recovery method works - e200v2 owners tested early versions of the "Sansa AMS" bootloader, which "bricked" their devices, meaning they needed to use that recovery mode. 04.41.26 Quit Chesteta () 04.42.34 # mikero123: have you tried a current build instead of v3.1? 04.43.15 # no, I can give it a whirl. 04.43.38 # I didn't see any of these listed in the known issues list. 04.43.45 # ok, i installed nk.bin to my gigabeat using 'sendfirm.exe' everything is still plugged in. now i go to my computer and go to 'gigabeat s' under the 'other' section? im unsure because it hasnt changed 04.44.26 # hm.. you might actually need to unplug the gigabeat for it to load the update, it's been a while since i did this. 04.44.34 # mikero123: Which WAD are you trying with Doom? 04.44.36 # ok 04.46.32 # i unplugged the USB and it restarted, after it retsrted it now says 'update or restore PMD' and a '2' in a yellow triangle 04.47.06 # do i use sendfirm again? 04.47.22 Quit Zoxc () 04.47.57 # linuxstb: freedoom 04.48.56 # Unhelpful: just tried the latest fw, and same on doom Data abort at 01fbc6c4 Still waiting on the database issue, will let you know in a few minutes. 04.49.28 Quit XavierGr () 04.50.16 # XxXSparkXxX: that doesn't sound good at all. you can try sendfirm again, but it shouldn't be doing this. did you see anything else before that message? 04.50.59 # no 04.51.48 # it says update or restore still. do you have a dual boot nk.bin file? 04.52.40 # im restoring the origional firmware again, and i will start over 04.52.41 Quit Rob2222 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 04.52.45 # no, i've been using rockbox exclusively, the dual-boot is much slower starting up 04.52.56 # ok, 04.53.23 # have u still got the nk.bin file u used on your computer? 04.53.43 # the single-boot one? 04.53.48 Quit mikero123 ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 04.53.48 # yes 04.54.27 Join mikero123 [0] (n=60edb45f@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-f75aec588ea63fe3) 04.55.34 Quit saratoga ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 04.56.33 # Uhelpful it has been 10 minutes, and no luch with the database either. 04.57.24 # mikero123: very strange... i don't have a c200, and i don't use doom, but i've never had that problem on my s60 or my e200 :/ 04.58.41 Join FlynDice [0] (n=jack@c-24-19-225-90.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) 04.58.56 Quit QuickStart (Remote closed the connection) 04.59.19 # unhelpful, could u send me the NK.bin file u used? through rapidshare or something? 04.59.51 Join Minthe [0] (n=Minthe@gw13.ecc.u-tokyo.ac.jp) 05.00.11 Join Barahir_ [0] (n=jonathan@Xdc77.x.pppool.de) 05.00.39 Quit Barahir (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 05.00.48 # you can extract an OF nk.bin from this file: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/GigabeatSInfo#Official_Gigabeat_S_Updater_vers 05.00.55 # as for a rockbox one, you already have that 05.01.37 # i got that file, thats the one i have been using to recover the s30. 05.03.58 Join dan__ [0] (n=dan@24.240.208.184) 05.04.26 Join yhuang [0] (n=yhuang@unaffiliated/yhuang) 05.06.12 Join perrikwp [0] (i=4aa794a0@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-e1a007d9da1908bf) 05.09.48 Quit Seedy ("cu, Andre") 05.12.36 Quit fdinel ("Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org") 05.17.14 Join Rob2222 [0] (n=Miranda@p4FDCCD63.dip.t-dialin.net) 05.17.16 Quit perrikwp ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") 05.19.44 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 05.20.54 Quit dan__ ("be seeing you") 05.30.28 Quit nuonguy ("This computer has gone to sleep") 05.34.56 Quit Rob2223 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 05.40.02 # i need a working rockbox n.bin file... unhelpful do you have a working one? the one from the sit dont seem to work 05.40.17 # nk.bin* 05.40.56 Join |mr [0] (n=lymeca@student167-75.hampshire.edu) 05.44.56 # the one from this page? http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/GigabeatSInstallation 05.45.16 # yes that one isnt working for me 05.48.16 # it works for me. 05.49.17 # ok.. i dont know what im doing wrong then 05.50.11 # possibly, nothing at all. there are some people who can't get rockbox to work on theirs. i'd suggest you try building a current bootloader, that one is quite old. 05.50.42 # where can i find one? 05.52.04 Quit linuxstb (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 05.54.02 # here's where to start: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/DocsIndex#For_Developers 05.54.33 # or, more specifically, here: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/CrossCompiler and here: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/HowToCompile 05.57.59 # thx 05.59.26 Quit |mr (Connection timed out) 06.00.25 Quit axionix ("Lost terminal") 06.00.46 # ok i cant do it... i dont hav linux 06.00.55 # i got xp and windows 7 06.01.21 Join |mr [0] (n=lymeca@student167-75.hampshire.edu) 06.01.39 Nick Minthe is now known as xsloader (n=Minthe@gw13.ecc.u-tokyo.ac.jp) 06.03.21 # http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/SimpleGuideToCompiling 06.06.01 # #So you need Rockbox-Gigabeat-S 06.06.16 # s/need/want/ 06.06.34 # yer im trying to get my gigabeat s30 to work with rockbox 06.07.33 # Actually I'm wondering why there is no gigabeat-s build... 06.07.55 # because it's not officially supported 06.07.59 # yet 06.10.54 # not that "yet" makes a difference. "it doesn't work on some devices" is just one of the problems that need to be solved. 06.11.10 # XxXSparkXxX: you didn't actually run the toshiba updater, did you? 06.11.22 # no i dont hav one... 06.11.26 # have* 06.11.44 # is that why it didnt work? 06.11.55 Join Bensawsome [0] (n=Bensawso@unaffiliated/bensawsome) 06.11.58 # yes, you do, you said that you downloaded it. 06.12.09 Quit HellDragon (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 06.12.12 Join HellDragon [0] (n=jd@modemcable022.187-203-24.mc.videotron.ca) 06.12.12 Quit Llorean (Connection reset by peer) 06.12.29 Part Bensawsome ("The awsome is gone :(") 06.12.30 # sorry i read it wrong.. yes i did run the updater 06.12.42 Join Llorean [0] (n=DarkkOne@ppp-70-243-32-116.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net) 06.13.31 # hrm :/ 06.13.33 # its version 1.2 "632.4" 06.14.00 Ctcp Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood 06.14.00 # * Unhelpful wonders if he could "break" his by installing *all* of v1.2 06.14.36 # what version was your gigabeat b4 u modded it? 06.15.11 # 1.1 or 1.2 06.15.23 # 1.1 06.15.32 # ok* 06.15.32 # ko 06.15.51 # and please, use real, whole words? 06.16.45 # #Oh rockbox.zip is here: http://build.rockbox.org/dist/build-gigabeats/rockbox.zip So you only need bootloader. 06.17.29 # i need to find a working bootloader yes. 06.17.48 # if i downgraded to version 1.1 it might work? 06.17.55 # sorry about my spelling before. 06.18.50 # Can't you use http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/viewfile/Main/GigabeatSInstallation?rev=1;filename=gigabeat-s-b.zip ? 06.18.58 # it might... i'm not sure anybody has tried. 06.19.20 # xsloader: for whatever reason, that doesn't work for him, and it immediately goes back to recovery :/ 06.19.55 # alright... i just downgraded the device, im about to try the rockbox bootloader now. 06.20.00 # XxXSparkXxX: did you send the bootloader.bin or the nk.bin from that file, with sendfirm? 06.20.26 # its now version 1.1"632.4" 06.20.43 # hrm, how did you do that? 06.20.57 # i sent the nk.bin file. i dont know what the bootloader file did so i didnt touch it. 06.21.17 # and i used a different nk.bin file from another zip from your site. 06.21.22 # i'll find which page 06.22.07 # I found another nk.bin 06.22.08 # http://audio-p.hp.infoseek.co.jp/ 06.22.12 # right, the problem may be that the updater updates the *other* .bin files on the firmware partition. 06.22.16 # http://audio-p.hp.infoseek.co.jp/nk.7z 06.23.29 # ok. what happens if i upload the bootloader.bin from the gigabeat-s-b.zip? 06.24.00 # XxXSparkXxX: you don't, you upload the nk.bin 06.24.13 # ok 06.24.14 # i was just making sure. 06.24.59 # xsloader: is that nk.bin file made for the gigabeat s series? 06.27.13 # Yes. The website says Rockbox for Gigabeat S 06.27.26 # ok. im going to test it now 06.28.30 # YES! 06.28.33 # it works. 06.28.41 # im in bootloader USB mode now. 06.28.43 # thankyou 06.28.58 # Oh, good 06.29.19 # HM. i wonder what the magic was. 06.29.30 # that file was 12.3mb 06.29.32 # not 77kb 06.29.40 # i think it is a merged version 06.29.45 # XxXSparkXxX: that's a dual-boot nk.bin, then. 06.29.51 # ah ok 06.29.56 # that'll do. 06.31.18 # thankyou to both of you. it is running now. 06.31.22 # i wonder if the problem is to do with the updater updating recovery.bin, or anything that might be in flash, or such, in some way that breaks only unmerged nk.bin... 06.31.53 # interestingly, i just did a restore (using sendfirm), and my firmware partition *only* has nk.bin on it. 06.33.56 # my firmware partition has the following files: nk.bin, eboot.bin, recovery.bin, TsbPmcStore.edb,pmcver.dat,pmcstore.edb 06.35.21 Quit Darksair ("(define zero (lambda (f) (lambda (x) x)))") 06.41.57 # that's the smaller partition? 06.49.13 # yes thats the small partition 06.53.11 Quit xsloader ("Leaving...") 07.01.51 Join Minthe [0] (n=Minthe@gw13.ecc.u-tokyo.ac.jp) 07.01.54 Nick Minthe is now known as xsloader (n=Minthe@gw13.ecc.u-tokyo.ac.jp) 07.07.32 Join perrikwp [0] (i=4aa794a0@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-6e866c1ef3656b7f) 07.08.10 Quit XxXSparkXxX ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)") 07.19.48 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 07.28.55 Quit perrikwp ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") 07.29.51 Join film42 [0] (n=GT@ip68-4-168-46.oc.oc.cox.net) 07.30.24 Quit film42 (Client Quit) 07.30.43 Quit CaptainKewl (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 07.34.53 Join film42 [0] (n=GT@ip68-4-168-46.oc.oc.cox.net) 07.35.11 Quit film42 (Remote closed the connection) 07.36.10 Join film42 [0] (n=GT@ip68-4-168-46.oc.oc.cox.net) 07.36.11 Quit film42 (Remote closed the connection) 08.13.22 Join Rob2223 [0] (n=Miranda@p4FDCC593.dip.t-dialin.net) 08.31.49 Quit Rob2222 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 08.33.24 Quit yhuang ("Leaving") 08.44.22 Quit xsloader ("Leaving...") 08.46.52 Join flydutch [0] (n=flydutch@host5-154-dynamic.14-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) 08.53.11 Join Minthe [0] (n=Minthe@gw13.ecc.u-tokyo.ac.jp) 09.13.37 Nick Barahir_ is now known as Barahir (n=jonathan@Xdc77.x.pppool.de) 09.15.50 Join advcomp2019_ [0] (n=advcomp2@unaffiliated/advcomp2019) 09.19.49 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 09.23.51 Quit advcomp2019 (Nick collision from services.) 09.32.59 Quit Minthe ("Leaving...") 09.36.28 Quit advcomp2019_ (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 09.40.20 Quit z35 ("Leaving") 09.42.07 Join casainho [0] (n=chatzill@87-196-141-219.net.novis.pt) 09.42.14 Join advcomp2019 [0] (n=advcomp2@unaffiliated/advcomp2019) 09.45.08 Join bmbl [0] (n=Miranda@unaffiliated/bmbl) 09.46.04 # hello :-) 09.46.12 # I am getting this error: /usr/local/arm-elf/lib/gcc/arm-elf/4.0.3/../../../../arm-elf/bin/ld: region PLUGIN_RAM is full (/home/cas/Documentos/rockbox_player/rockbox/build/apps/codecs/vorbis.elf section .header) 09.46.32 # what should I do? why it happens? 10.05.16 Join lasser [0] (n=chatzill@W80b8.w.pppool.de) 10.12.41 # casainho: you probably have huge arrays sitting around, you need to cut down on them or cut down the size. you should be able to tell what's big in the map file (maybe)? 10.13.11 # kadoban: sorry, I didn't explain... I am making a new port 10.13.21 # casainho: oh, i forgot...you're the rockbox player guy. i probably don't know for that 10.13.34 # I need to work the pluguins.lds 10.14.16 # well, I just build correctly the firmware now - I will debug it to see if it runs 10.14.55 # I would like to know how can I creat a zip file for the firmware, so I can copy it to the SD Card and try the bootloader... 10.15.41 # "make zip"? 10.17.49 # I will try that 10.18.42 # well, I am seeing that I can run the .elf file and debug it as I was doing with the bootloader... and the first error I am getting on LCD is "ATA error: 1" :-) 10.25.12 Quit Dieterbe ("leaving") 10.34.50 Join n1s [0] (n=nils@rockbox/developer/n1s) 10.38.06 Join nuonguy [0] (n=john@c-24-6-174-132.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) 10.38.24 Quit GodEater_ ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") 10.38.39 Join GodEater_ [0] (i=c2cbc962@rockbox/staff/GodEater) 10.39.46 Quit casainho ("ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 3.0.5/2008121622]") 10.40.05 Join LinusN [0] (n=linus@rockbox/developer/LinusN) 10.40.21 Part LinusN 10.41.59 Join bertrik [0] (n=bertrik@ip117-49-211-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl) 10.43.21 Join beachsurfin [0] (n=kayla@unaffiliated/girlmeteor) 10.44.32 # is there an option to list the wps gallery submissions by popularity (most downloaded)? 10.47.28 Join kachna|lappy [0] (n=kachna@r4ax178.net.upc.cz) 10.50.29 # Unhelpful: speaking of scrolling in pf... I find it odd that the plugin uses its own scrolling - and I also think that it doesn't look good, especially in cases where it only has to scroll a few pixels 10.51.11 # I know, not your fault ;) 10.53.00 # thanks for the reminder... that was on my to-do list, which is not actually recorded anywhere. :/ 10.54.29 Join ArtGDen_Uz [0] (n=d5ce2e9d@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-45208db05a80857e) 10.55.32 # you're welcome :\ 10.55.47 # amiconn: first, we need a text scroller for the greylib. secondly, how exactly does the text scrolling "work"? when animating, pf renders directly to the framebuffer, then calls for the text draw afterward. can we still follow that pattern with core scrolled text? 10.57.06 Quit timc (Remote closed the connection) 10.57.27 # Not directly. My idea would only work if PF doesn't scroll text while actually animating 10.58.08 # Once animation stops, PF could copy the framebuffer contents to a backdrop buffer, and set that bitmap as backdrop. Then scrolling text works as expected 10.58.30 # It would then need to stop the scrolling text before restarting the animation 10.59.01 # Text scroller for the greylib should be possible. It might even be possible to plug it into the core's scroll engine 10.59.35 Join Dieterbe [0] (n=Dieterbe@213.219.138.165.adsl.dyn.edpnet.net) 10.59.42 Quit ArtGDen_Uz ("CGI:IRC") 10.59.48 # * amiconn should really start his planned gfx rework & cleanup 10.59.52 # Meh, decisions... 11.00.07 Join timc [0] (n=aoeu@124.93.243.83) 11.01.39 Quit kachna (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 11.01.53 # hrm... so the text scroller updates via some timer event, or something like that? 11.02.23 # There's a tick task sending events to the scroll thread, which then redraws the scrolling text lines 11.03.36 # Redraw must be done from a thread, drawing from an ISR is usually forbidden (the greylib being an exception ) 11.04.46 # hrm... yeah, that *will* be tricky :/ 11.06.16 # what will be tricky? 11.08.46 # making PF play nice with the core scroller. i don't suposse we care about scrolling names while animating, anyway, though. 11.09.22 # so, like you said, we can just copy the buffer to another one that we set as the background when animation stops... 11.09.31 # Is that done now? Iirc it's not 11.10.06 # Hmm, does PF rotate the display on portrait targets? 11.10.11 Join _lifeless [0] (n=lifeless@89.20.119.238) 11.11.15 # amiconn, it doesn't on my e200 11.11.43 # Okay, that makes things easier 11.13.28 # it also does custom drawing of track list... not just its own scroll implementation, but the highlight bar behind the selected track pulses 11.13.34 Quit __lifeless (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 11.14.39 # hmmmm 11.19.51 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 11.22.48 # it also has this gradient in the track list 11.23.07 Quit beachsurfin (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 11.23.30 # also, the track list *itself* scrolls up and down, if it's larger than the screen :/ 11.23.59 Quit bertrik (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 11.24.26 Join JdGordon [0] (n=jonno@rockbox/developer/JdGordon) 11.26.07 Join bertrik [0] (n=bertrik@ip117-49-211-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl) 11.31.39 # actually, if pictureflow renders the gradient, and the pulsing bar, into a buffer that's set as the background, would that "work"? i'm guessing the scroll engine will only copy pixels from background buffer in the area that it's drawing into? 11.32.10 Join beachsurfin [0] (n=kayla@unaffiliated/girlmeteor) 11.33.28 # Yes. It would only work if the text actually scrolss though 11.33.52 # and parts of the bar that aren't "under" the text wouldn't update, either? 11.34.01 # But if the background uses a single colur (even if it's pulsating) it's easier than that 11.34.13 Join {phoenix} [0] (n=dirk@p54B463BB.dip.t-dialin.net) 11.36.47 # no, the selection bar in the track list is blue pulsing blue bar draw with some sort of gradient effect - i've not looked closely at the code behind it, i only know that it uses fade_color, becaue i had to dig around to find out what the expected range for the alpha argument to that was 11.37.42 # would it be possible to have the scroll engine only updating a structure that says what offset the scroll is at, or whatever else the scroll engine needs to know about, without it doing the actual drawing? 11.38.01 Join miepchen^schlaf [0] (n=miepel@p579ECC09.dip.t-dialin.net) 11.42.53 Quit kachna|lappy (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 11.42.55 Join kachna|lappy [0] (n=kachna@r4ax178.net.upc.cz) 11.45.39 Join {-phoenix-} [0] (n=dirk@p54B463BB.dip.t-dialin.net) 11.45.56 # or, perhaps, just a draw_it_my_darn_self bool field ;) 11.47.14 Quit lasser ("ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Iceweasel 3.0.5/2008122011]") 11.48.53 Quit {-phoenix-} (Remote closed the connection) 11.53.23 Quit Horscht ("Verlassend") 11.53.26 Quit {phoenix} (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 11.54.22 Join PaulJam [0] (i=PaulJam_@vpn-3069.gwdg.de) 11.55.07 Quit beachsurfin (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 11.55.11 Join naubrey [0] (n=naubrey@71.216.237.156) 11.55.41 # Does rockbox work on any of the cheap wanna-be ipod nock-offs on ebay? 11.55.57 Join beachsurfin [0] (n=kayla@unaffiliated/girlmeteor) 11.56.22 # no 11.57.19 # Well thanks for shattering all my hopes and dreams!!! lol. Oh well. 11.57.27 # always a pleasure 11.58.39 Quit miepchen^schlaf () 11.59.10 # If I purchase one of the said nock-offs and send it to a rockbox developer... is there a chance it would be supported in the future? 12.00.09 # probably not 12.00.48 # I realize it is supported on a bunch of devices, but is there a 'best' if I go purchase something? Or does it work equally on all devices? 12.00.53 Join robin0800 [0] (n=quassel@cpc3-brig8-0-0-cust436.brig.cable.ntl.com) 12.03.10 Join Horscht [0] (n=Horscht@xbmc/user/horscht) 12.03.59 Join moos [0] (i=Mustapha@rockbox/staff/moos) 12.05.48 # naubrey: we have a BuyersGuide page in the wiki 12.05.59 # thx. I'll check it out. 12.06.00 Quit naubrey ("WeeChat 0.2.6") 12.06.00 # it depends a lot on what you want the player to do 12.06.05 # meh 12.06.25 Join Horschti [0] (n=Horscht@xbmc/user/horscht) 12.08.19 Quit nuonguy ("This computer has gone to sleep") 12.08.38 Join casainho [0] (n=chatzill@87-196-141-219.net.novis.pt) 12.12.03 Join {phoenix} [0] (n=dirk@p54B463BB.dip.t-dialin.net) 12.20.05 # hello :-) -- on bootloader, I am getting the error: "File not found", however I have the dir .rockbox and all files there... 12.23.22 Join __lifeless [0] (n=lifeless@89.20.108.223) 12.24.19 Quit Horscht (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 12.32.26 Quit beachsurfin (Remote closed the connection) 12.33.21 # viewports in a wps shouldn't overlap, right? 12.33.58 Join beachsurfin [0] (n=kayla@unaffiliated/girlmeteor) 12.34.14 # they can overlap when they aren't displayed at the same time (conditional viewports) 12.34.49 # but otherwise it is likely to cause flickering 12.37.20 # ok, thanks 12.38.05 Quit _lifeless (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 12.40.09 Join Thundercloud [0] (n=thunderc@cpc3-hem18-0-0-cust53.lutn.cable.ntl.com) 12.48.05 Quit DataGhost (Nick collision from services.) 12.48.13 Join DataGhost [0] (i=dataghos@unaffiliated/dataghost) 12.49.21 Join MrDuck [0] (n=kachna@r4ax178.net.upc.cz) 12.50.47 Quit kachna|lappy (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 12.51.43 Quit DataGhost (Nick collision from services.) 12.51.51 Join DataGhost [0] (i=dataghos@unaffiliated/dataghost) 12.52.03 Join Darksair [0] (n=user@221.221.166.197) 12.54.36 Join Hdaackda [0] (n=babajame@203.81.235.39) 12.54.55 # hi. i need major help! 12.56.01 # I've got an ipod video 30gb (5.5 ) and i instaled the wrong firmware.. Now it shows the apple screen of death (www.apple.com/support).. doesnt get detected by the computer or runs... 12.58.09 # Hdaackda: what do yuo mean by installign the wrong firmware? 13.00.18 Join Lynx_ [0] (n=till@xdsl-84-44-168-251.netcologne.de) 13.00.35 # umm.. I had problems with my 80gb video.. it was not getting detected on any pc (even in disk mode). so i took out its harddisk, put it inside 30gbs.. and updated it using Itunes! ( i also had rockbox installed on both of em) 13.01.53 # can you get it to the diskmode? 13.01.58 # no 13.02.23 # the same screen appears... 13.02.38 # can you put the 30bg disk back maybe? 13.03.01 # tried that too.. same problem.. infact, now its on both the ipods!! 13.06.12 # aby ideas 4 a solution? 13.07.12 # I'm not too good at fixing troubled ipods so you may want to hang around for a while and see if anyone who knows something about this comes around 13.07.43 Quit mikero123 ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 13.08.11 # ok.. 13.08.27 # how are you trying to get it in disk mode? 13.08.43 # select button + play 13.08.51 # after reseting it.. 13.09.48 # can you start the original firmware? 13.09.53 # no 13.11.21 # i can't even get them start in diagnostic mode 13.14.25 # any help would be appreciated 13.18.04 # be patient, not everyone knows a lot about Ipods (me neither) and not everyone is at the keyboard all the time. My only other idea would be to check connections etc. if you swapped disks (I'm not sure though if you at least should get something even if the disk is not detected) 13.19.40 # k.. yup. will wait for someone more tech aware... may even be willing to giv $10 (or something..) if it starts working again!! 13.19.55 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 13.27.55 Join [1]TruthTaco [0] (i=TruthTac@adsl-217-206-19.aby.bellsouth.net) 13.29.22 Quit __lifeless (Remote closed the connection) 13.29.39 Join __lifeless [0] (n=lifeless@89.20.110.45) 13.34.07 Join cool_walking_ [0] (n=anthony@203.161.101.209.static.amnet.net.au) 13.35.54 Join akur [0] (n=akur@bl9-152-93.dsl.telepac.pt) 13.35.59 Part akur 13.36.51 Join kachna|lappy [0] (n=kachna@r4ax178.net.upc.cz) 13.39.06 Quit cool_walking_ (Remote closed the connection) 13.39.43 Join {-phoenix-} [0] (n=dirk@vpnclient-202-033.hrz.tu-chemnitz.de) 13.40.01 Join dfkt [0] (i=dfkt@unaffiliated/dfkt) 13.42.30 Join tyfoo [0] (n=tyfoo@77-20-31-238-dynip.superkabel.de) 13.45.43 Quit TruthTaco (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 13.45.43 Nick [1]TruthTaco is now known as TruthTaco (i=TruthTac@adsl-217-206-19.aby.bellsouth.net) 13.49.51 # Hdaackda: It isn't someone more tech aware as the people that you have spoken to are very tech aware, it is waiting for someone that specifically knows ipods 13.51.22 Quit MrDuck (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 13.52.13 Quit Hdaackda (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 13.53.09 Quit {phoenix} (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 13.53.31 Join astroboy123 [0] (n=astroboy@225.060.dsl.syd.iprimus.net.au) 14.00.35 Join Hdaackda [0] (n=babajame@203.81.214.226) 14.00.59 # . 14.04.10 Join {phoenix} [0] (n=dirk@p54B463BB.dip.t-dialin.net) 14.13.26 Join Lynx [0] (n=till@xdsl-87-78-187-138.netcologne.de) 14.14.06 Nick Lynx_ is now known as Guest58704 (n=till@xdsl-84-44-168-251.netcologne.de) 14.14.07 Quit Hdaackda (Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer)) 14.14.39 Nick Lynx is now known as Lynx_ (n=till@xdsl-87-78-187-138.netcologne.de) 14.18.11 Quit {-phoenix-} (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 14.19.09 Join Aurix_Lexico [0] (n=comrade@c-68-56-205-239.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) 14.19.16 Join Hdaackda [0] (n=babajame@203.81.214.226) 14.19.18 # I got my firmware zip file with name "rockbox.playerlittle" and bootloader can't find it because bootloader looks for the "rockbox.rockboxplayerlittle". After renaming the file, the bootloader correctly found it :-) -- where is the mistake? what should I do for the make zip put the correct name of that file? 14.26.45 Quit Guest58704 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 14.31.58 Join TheSphinX^ [0] (n=cold@p54A5E068.dip.t-dialin.net) 14.32.38 Join Babajee [0] (n=babajame@115.186.101.242) 14.42.21 Join einhirn [0] (i=Miranda@bsod.rz.tu-clausthal.de) 14.43.46 # I am getting an error, on load_firmware(), which calls lseek() and returns with -2. Can someone help me? 14.44.14 Quit Hdaackda (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 14.47.17 # casainho: firmware/common/file.c line.. 711 or so, -2 means you messed up the arguments to lseek itseems like 14.47.38 Join fdinel [0] (n=Miranda@modemcable204.232-203-24.mc.videotron.ca) 14.48.01 # hmmmm.... 14.48.08 Quit TheSphinX^ ("XChat@Linux") 14.48.16 # lseek means line seek? 14.48.58 # i'm not sure what the l actually stands for, but no..it's for seeking in files. the units are bytes. if you look up POSIX lseek, rockbox's version is very similar 14.49.29 # it is called here: lseek(fd, FIRMWARE_OFFSET_FILE_DATA, SEEK_SET); 14.49.51 # on common.c, from load_firmware() 14.51.02 # i don't know then. if it's not code you wrote, it's unlikely the arguments are wrong. check errno i guess? 14.52.22 # ah, sorry - can be my mistake while debbuging, I think that it not hangs there finaly 14.52.37 # :) 14.52.56 # kadoban: and about this: 14.52.59 # > I got my firmware zip file with name "rockbox.playerlittle" and bootloader can't find it because bootloader looks for the "rockbox.rockboxplayerlittle". After renaming the file, the bootloader correctly found it :-) -- where is the mistake? what should I do for the make zip put the correct name of that file? 14.53.26 # i have no idea. the build scripts scare me 14.53.39 Join CaptainKewl [0] (i=jds@207-237-172-77.c3-0.nyr-ubr4.nyr.ny.cable.rcn.com) 14.54.50 # kadoban: okok, thanks ;-) 14.55.01 Quit bertrik (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 14.59.17 Join Hdaackda [0] (n=babajame@203.81.210.87) 15.00.17 Join mcuelenaere [0] (n=mcuelena@rockbox/developer/mcuelenaere) 15.06.30 Join Xerion_ [0] (i=xerion@82-170-197-160.ip.telfort.nl) 15.09.18 # casainho: you defined BOOTFILE_EXT to rockboxplayerlittle in your config-XX.h, that's why the bootloader can't find the file 15.09.52 # * mcuelenaere wonders whether that value shouldn't be passed from tools/configure.. 15.10.09 Join tvelocity [0] (n=tony@adsl10-22.her.forthnet.gr) 15.11.03 # mcuelenaere: so, what I did worng? 15.11.10 # sorry, can't understand 15.11.27 # you'll need to make sure the value BOOTFILE_EXT & BOOTFILE are the same as boot_output in tools/configure 15.12.00 Quit {phoenix} (Remote closed the connection) 15.12.33 Quit Babajee (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 15.12.43 # ah, ok, I will rectify :-) 15.12.46 # thanks :-) 15.15.07 # there is no BOOTFILE on tools/configure :-( 15.15.18 # no, the other way around 15.15.24 # BOOTFILE is in config-.h 15.15.29 # and boot_output is in tools/configure 15.15.37 Quit einhirn ("Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org") 15.15.49 Quit Hdaackda (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 15.15.52 # bootoutput* 15.16.30 Join faemir [0] (n=daniel@88-106-244-173.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) 15.16.48 # so, bootoutput should be equal to BOOTFILE_EXT ? 15.17.22 # no, BOOTFILE should 15.17.30 # but BOOTFILE depends on BOOTFILE_EXT 15.17.52 # (and I don't think it's necessary to have 2 define's for this, but I could be wrong) 15.18.41 # I am confused 15.19.01 # look at what load_firmware() does in your bootloader.c file, then you'll understand 15.19.04 # so, I have this: #define BOOTFILE_EXT "rockboxplayerlittle" 15.19.10 # yes, and that's incorrect 15.19.26 # because it doesn't match bootoutput 15.19.58 # and waht should I put on bootoutput? 15.19.59 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 15.20.09 # the same as in BOOTFILE 15.20.34 # bootoutput is what the bootloader gets called when generated 15.20.46 # uh I'm wrong :S 15.21.18 # oh man... 15.21.45 # it's output, not bootoutput :) 15.22.13 # so the bootloader looks for "./rockbox"BOOTFILE 15.22.15 # so, any suggestion for output and bootouput? 15.22.26 # which is called rockbox.rockboxplayerlittle in your case 15.22.34 # but output is rockbox.playerlittle 15.22.41 # yes... 15.22.49 # casainho: just name them the same 15.22.56 # ah, okok :-) 15.23.04 # probably rockbox.playerlittle looks best 15.23.07 # and the name for bootouput? 15.23.25 # hmm it seems there's no consistency in naming them 15.23.43 Quit Xerion (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 15.23.43 Nick Xerion_ is now known as Xerion (i=xerion@82-170-197-160.ip.telfort.nl) 15.23.45 # I'd go for rockboot.playerlittle, but you could also do rockbox.player_little_bootloader or bootloader.player_little or whatever 15.23.55 Join Hdaackda [0] (n=babajame@115.186.121.41) 15.24.06 # okok :-) 15.24.20 # hmm and the modelid shouldn't be 999 in tools/configure 15.25.04 # hi. need a bit of help.. how can I restore my ipod 80gb without itunes?? or install rockbox? 15.25.48 # i installed the wrong firmware.. then somehow managed to go to disk mode!! the disk is not formated and itunes tells me to restore.. (but its a 80gb harddisk on 30gb ipod..) 15.25.54 # mcuelenaere: just used that value because would give me problems if someone creates a new target while I get my working 15.25.55 # i dont wanna mess things further 15.27.30 # casainho: ok 15.28.17 # I am now building the firmqware + bootloader :-) 15.28.32 # Hdaackda: is this what you're looking for? http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IpodManualRestore (not really sure, but it sounds like it might be) 15.28.38 # ok.. 30gb working fine now... (drained battery.. connected 30gb hddisk n it works.. ) 15.28.38 # But 80gb harddisk just keeps shutting again and again... but if i put it on my 30gb ipod (i.e. 80gb hddisk on 30gb ipod), i am able to go to disk mode... but comp says harddisk not formated 15.28.38 # also: itunes say you need to restore.. 15.28.38 DBUG Enqueued KICK Hdaackda 15.28.38 # any idea what to do? if i restore it, 80gb hardisk wuld get messed up, right.. how wuld i then install rockbox on it?? 15.29.44 Join Nico_P [50] (n=nicolas@rockbox/developer/NicoP) 15.30.44 Quit n1s (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 15.31.58 Join xingyuan [0] (n=a@118.100.16.155) 15.32.09 Part xingyuan 15.36.57 Nick fxb__ is now known as fxb (n=felixbru@h1252615.stratoserver.net) 15.41.55 Join kugel [0] (n=kugel@rockbox/developer/kugel) 15.43.16 Join robin0800_ [0] (n=robin080@cpc3-brig8-0-0-cust436.brig.cable.ntl.com) 15.43.46 # kugel: hey, did you get around to testing that diff i posted last week? 15.44.39 # JdGordon: ah, totally forgot about it. if you could paste again, I'll do a test right now 15.45.10 # also, you said you're going to commit anyway ;) 15.45.27 # :) yeah, but testing is always good.... 15.45.36 Join bertrik [0] (n=bertrik@ip117-49-211-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl) 15.45.45 # http://jdgordon.info/~jonno/statusbar.diff 15.46.06 Join rio [0] (n=rio@eta-ori.net) 15.46.11 # JdGordon: I played a bit around with having the wps to issue the redraw when leaving, so the dead parts are gone when entering a custom vp screen 15.46.28 # that shouldnt be needed.... 15.46.45 # how do you want to get the dead parts away? 15.47.23 # reenableing the custom vp should do it automatically... 15.47.43 # yes, and that's what the wps should do right? 15.48.11 # indirectly... 15.48.47 # anyway, if the redraw happens in wps context, it won't work 15.48.48 Quit robin0800 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 15.49.07 # are there any cue sheet experts online? 15.49.21 # depends on what you need.... 15.49.24 Join n1s [0] (n=nils@rockbox/developer/n1s) 15.49.24 # the wps can only clear, the next screen has do update the screen then 15.49.55 Join _lifeless [0] (n=lifeless@89.20.110.45) 15.50.02 # FS#9638 looks like a nice cleanup, but I don't know how to test it 15.51.08 # neither... umm... I'm working on a patch which will make that irrelevant.. but its moving slowly :/ 15.51.14 Quit __lifeless (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 15.51.27 # when i looked at that patch a while ago i thought it looked fine 15.51.36 # JdGordon: what I'd like to do is to send a "redraw message", right before leaving the wps (the next screen will be up in the next tick), and at the next tick the screen is fully updated 15.52.20 # that should be fine 15.52.36 # that should work good, at least 15.52.41 # except replace tick with next screen 15.52.56 # ? 15.53.04 # when on the bootloader, I get the message on LCD: Model name: ****5 --> being * weird characters... why? 15.53.30 # casainho: because you pass those weird chars to scramble maybe? 15.53.48 Join perrikwp [0] (i=4aa794a0@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-c70056f07b62966b) 15.53.49 # the scrable tool inserts the short model string into the main binary 15.54.00 # hmmm, I don't know nothing about the scramble... what is the scramble? 15.54.12 # ah, ok 15.54.20 # casainho: you've probably not used scramble when generating the firmware file 15.54.22 # JdGordon: "except replace tick with next screen" what do you mean with that? 15.54.28 # look at tools/configure how other targets do this 15.54.35 # and you'll need to modify scramble.c too 15.55.04 # kugel: when the wps exits it tells the vpm to clear the screen totaly, then when the next screen "loads" it redraws as soon as it can 15.55.52 # so the screen should do it, not the tick tak? 15.55.56 # mcuelenaere: my model name is this one: modelname="rockboxplayerlittle" 15.55.59 Join HBK1 [0] (n=hbk@pool-71-96-74-73.dfw.dsl-w.verizon.net) 15.56.12 # casainho, maybe that's too long 15.56.14 # kugel: there is no more tick task 15.56.37 # bertrik: ok, I will short it, since my LCD is 128x :-) 15.56.41 # I'm sure there is one which could be abused ;) 15.56.54 # there *was* one which was removed 15.57.09 # casainho: look at http://svn.rockbox.org/viewvc.cgi/trunk/tools/scramble.c?r1=19083&r2=19574 for an example how to implement scramble.c 15.57.23 # well, then I'll need to do that what you said should not be done 15.57.31 # ? 15.58.28 Join Babajee [0] (n=babajame@203.81.214.201) 15.59.33 Join miepchen^schlaf [0] (n=miepel@p579ECC09.dip.t-dialin.net) 15.59.56 # casainho: http://svn.rockbox.org/viewvc.cgi/trunk/tools/scramble.c?r1=18957&r2=19083 is probably a better example 16.00.00 # mcuelenaere: I just need to add that elseif for my model? 16.00.20 # yes, and you'll need to change tools/configure 16.01.09 # JdGordon: well, you said it should be (entirely) up to the screen which doesn't use the custom vp to restore it (fully and correctly) 16.01.10 Quit tyfoo (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 16.01.28 # casainho: you'll need to add tool="$rootdir/tools/scramble -add=" 16.01.44 # but that's not possible, so either the new screen, or a scheduled event has to do the redraw 16.01.44 # and change toolset to toolset=$scramblebitmaptools 16.01.44 # what? how can it restore some other screen? the best it can do is erase the bits outside the used area 16.02.00 # that's what you said.. 16.02.06 # when? 16.02.29 Join tyfoo [0] (n=tyfoo@77-20-31-238-dynip.superkabel.de) 16.04.11 # "JdGordon its the responsability to the screen which disables them to reenable them", maybe I got you wrong, but it sounded to me that custom-vp-screens should be untouched when it comes to reenabling the custom vp 16.05.36 # yes you misunderstood, or read in more than was typed... if the WPS disables the cvp then it must reenable it... the vpm will realise its changed and clear the whole screen when this happens so the next screen will draw correcly 16.05.43 # the other problem is that screens don't update the whole screen, but only their parent. the whole-screen update should be something external imho 16.10.29 Join MethoS- [0] (n=lem@host-091-097-242-061.ewe-ip-backbone.de) 16.12.06 Nick JdGordon is now known as JdGordon|zzz (n=jonno@rockbox/developer/JdGordon) 16.12.40 Quit Hdaackda (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 16.14.09 Quit HBK- (Connection timed out) 16.21.21 Quit miepchen^schlaf (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 16.21.50 Join {phoenix} [0] (n=dirk@p54B463BB.dip.t-dialin.net) 16.31.45 Join ender` [0] (i=krneki@foo.eternallybored.org) 16.36.03 Join kugel_ [0] (n=kugel@e179080131.adsl.alicedsl.de) 16.39.52 # I am trying to build correctly the firmware and I got the built witout erros but the final file "rockbox.rockboxplayerlittle" is not there however is there the files rockbox.elf and rockbox.bin... 16.41.01 # casainho: scramble is located in 'tools/scramble' 16.43.18 # I got this: 16.43.24 # ../tools/scramble rockbox.bin rockbox.rockboxplayerlittle -add=rbplayer 16.43.26 # error: firmware image is 384038 bytes while max size is 204800! 16.43.42 # hmm I didn't know scramble had a max size limitation 16.44.29 # casainho: then you'll need to change that limit 16.45.02 # that limit is for the archos based players 16.45.11 # eh s/based// 16.45.37 # hmmm, so I should be doing something worng, no? 16.47.00 # casainho: max 4 chars in scramble 16.47.42 # (afaik) 16.48.08 # ah, I was using more than 4... 16.48.42 # casainho: no other target uses more than 4, why don't you analize existing code? 16.49.09 # ok, but I couldn't imagine... 16.55.44 Quit kugel (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 16.56.08 # I still get the same error: ../tools/scramble rockbox.bin rockbox.rockboxplayerlittle -add=rbpl 16.56.10 # error: firmware image is 384034 bytes while max size is 204800! 16.57.42 # casainho: have you edited scramble too? 16.58.03 # yes, I did 16.58.29 # I wonder why the max size is 204800 bytes 16.58.37 # here is: http://pastebin.com/m119de29a 16.58.46 # kugel_: n1s said that's a limit for the archos players 17.00.14 Ctcp Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood 17.00.14 # * mcuelenaere wonders why the rbplayerlittle fw file is so much bigger then any others.. 17.00.41 # mcuelenaere: it's only 384k 17.00.42 # * bertrik can't make sense of how to control cue sheets on rockbox and seriously doubts if it works at it is supposed to 17.00.55 # casainho: IMO you should add an other value to size_limit and set this as a 'generic' file limit 17.00.59 # mcuelenaere: others have ~600k 17.01.13 # hmm then why don't they have this error? 17.01.20 # do they all not use scramble? 17.01.22 # because they did it right 17.01.26 # they do 17.01.44 # casainho: can i see your configure? 17.01.55 # casainho: it'll probably be easier if you provide a diff 17.02.14 # and rockbox-info.txt which you get after doing make 17.02.33 # kugel_: here: http://pastebin.com/me6237d7 17.03.01 # casainho: dude, "tool="$rootdir/tools/scramble -add=rbplayer_little"" 17.03.02 # casainho: -add isn't according to scramble.c 17.03.24 # oh man :-( :-( 17.04.08 # thanks - I will try again :-) 17.05.30 Join akur [0] (n=akur@bl9-152-93.dsl.telepac.pt) 17.06.52 Part akur 17.09.21 Part Llorean 17.15.48 Quit faemir (Remote closed the connection) 17.15.59 Join faemir [0] (n=daniel@88-106-244-173.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) 17.16.07 Join Llorean [0] (n=DarkkOne@ppp-70-243-32-116.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net) 17.17.26 Quit Thundercloud (Remote closed the connection) 17.17.35 Join Thundercloud [0] (n=thunderc@cpc3-hem18-0-0-cust53.lutn.cable.ntl.com) 17.18.01 Join linuxstb [0] (n=linuxstb@rockbox/developer/linuxstb) 17.18.11 # okok - I got it :-) -- I will put it on SD Card and see if bootloader can run it... 17.18.57 # bertrik: What's the problem with cuesheets? 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But I would try and find a Windows PC and use chkdsk - fsck doesn't seem to be as good with FAT filesystems. 20.21.54 # hmm, it's been a couple of minutes and the delete window is stuck at "Preparing to Delete files..." 20.22.13 # I'll try doing that, thanks linuxstb 20.25.11 Quit saratoga ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 20.30.26 Join toffe82 [0] (n=chatzill@adsl-75-3-221-125.dsl.frs2ca.sbcglobal.net) 20.33.01 Quit PSPdemon (Remote closed the connection) 20.33.41 Join tvelocity[away] [0] (n=tony@adsl8-194.her.forthnet.gr) 20.37.28 Quit tvelocity[a] (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 20.41.13 Quit el_gato39874 ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)") 20.44.24 Join tvelocity[a] [0] (n=tony@adsl13-231.her.forthnet.gr) 20.47.11 Join rocko [0] (n=rocko@c-67-167-117-152.hsd1.il.comcast.net) 20.52.30 Join xSlack_ [0] (n=brett@173-17-70-78.client.mchsi.com) 20.56.37 Join MethoS-- [0] (n=lem@dyndsl-085-016-165-155.ewe-ip-backbone.de) 20.58.57 Join miepchen^schlaf [0] (n=miepel@p579ECC09.dip.t-dialin.net) 20.59.50 Quit tyfoo (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 21.00.09 Quit miepchen^schlaf (Client Quit) 21.00.54 Quit tvelocity[away] (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 21.04.31 Join miepchen^schlaf [0] (n=miepel@p579ECC09.dip.t-dialin.net) 21.07.46 Quit xSlack (Connection timed out) 21.16.30 Quit MethoS- (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 21.18.15 # why did the latest commit cause uneven binsize reduction? 21.18.26 # I would have expected the hit to be equal across targets. 21.20.08 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 21.21.28 Quit MethoS-- (Connection timed out) 21.43.49 Join saratoga [0] (n=9803c6dd@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-26073f3b1e95f36e) 21.45.10 # soap: probably due to alignment 21.45.50 # that stuct is full of chars, so its probably not an integer number of words, and it may shift things around when its added or removed 21.45.53 # yea, that's what I shamefully assumed as soon as I opened my mouth to express my ignorance. ;) 21.46.15 Join tvelocity[away] [0] (n=tony@adsl12-65.her.forthnet.gr) 21.46.53 # but it is odd that a couple targets are different by quite a few words, probably some gcc weirdness 21.47.40 # does anyone know if the sansa can detect the difference between a USB insert and a charger insert on powerup yet? 21.48.03 Quit rocko ("Leaving") 21.48.19 Quit tvelocity[a] (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 21.48.38 # saratoga: V1? I think jhMikeS actually implemented that recently 21.48.48 # I'm fairly sure they can 21.49.26 # i thought he did too, but i didn't have a way to test if it worked 21.50.26 Join tvelocity[a] [0] (n=tony@adsl16-223.her.forthnet.gr) 21.50.28 # he said he tested it by taking out the data lines in the usb cable 21.51.13 # I have a charger here, and (with the OF) it always worked (as in the OF never tried to establish a connection, and the player was usable and music not stopping) 21.52.59 # actually, i do have a suitable charger 21.53.13 # but it still causes the sansa to boot into the OF if power is off when i plug in 21.54.48 # Hm, I don't know if the bootloader is touched by jhMikeS changes 21.54.56 # have you updated it? 21.55.54 # btw, I think, once USB is enabled on PP, some USB code should be moved into the bootloader for a recovery mode 21.55.57 # IIRC, the bootloader uses a different usb detection routing. 21.56.01 # s/routing/routine/ 21.56.10 # I nearly bricked my sansa today, while updating it in rockbox usb 21.56.55 # how can anything be nearly bricked? 21.57.15 # I could restore it using the OF 21.57.22 # i'm also starting to see weird issues with the sansa OF detecting USB connects in recent builds 21.57.29 # kugel: So not bricked at all then... 21.57.38 # if I uninstalled the of because rockbox usb is working perfectly, I'd had to use e200tool 21.58.18 # and needing e200tool qualifies as nearly-bricked imo ;) 21.58.30 # * linuxstb blames Bagder for creating the SansaE200Unbrick wiki page 21.58.30 # yes flashing the of bootloader on the sansa is a bit risky 21.58.44 # * Bagder accepts all blame 21.59.28 # he's redirecting the blame to perl anyway 21.59.28 # haha plugging in the USB cable while in rockbox now causes my sansa to reboot . . . back into rockbox 21.59.30 # forever 21.59.30 # but I really just used the term others would use, I didn't invent "brick" for non-bricked players 22.00.08 # Maybe "Recovery" would have been better than "Unbrick" (easy to say now...) 22.00.12 # hmm and USB still isn't detected in the OF with current SVN 22.00.29 # hm? 22.00.33 # my bootloader is probably 14 months old, i wonder if its getting out of date 22.00.52 # usb isn't working in to OF for you? 22.01.24 # it will if i switch USB ports or PCs a few times 22.01.30 # but i can plug it into the same port forever and it will only charge 22.01.52 # hm, I'm having that problem too sometimes 22.01.53 # i bet its because i flashed the OF bootloader with rockbox, so we're probably not properly initing something the OF needs in the most recent builds 22.02.16 # So did I 22.02.44 # but it's independant of the build. the bootloader is loading the of 22.02.49 # still its curious the rebooting the sansa doens't clear whatever changes rockbox makes to the setup 22.03.27 # well, rebooting just loads the rockbox bootloader again 22.05.38 # it seems to happen even if i power off the device and leave it for some time though 22.05.46 # i'd expect that to erase any internal register settings 22.06.04 # hmm the bootloader has had quite a few functional changes to both USB init and power handling in the last year 22.06.46 # saratoga: I just hope http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/8663 gets committed soon, so we can get rid of the of 22.08.40 # kugel: even once that goes in, we'll probably not be able to enable USB by default since apparently the bus reset problem renders USB useless for some people 22.09.10 # though for some people it'll probably be enough for them to start using it 22.09.14 # yea, the resets still happen 22.09.20 # but they don't cause corruptions 22.09.34 # and maybe this will motivate someone to reverse engineer the OF and find whatever magic "usb doesn't reset" bit we're missing 22.09.42 # I had a few resets during the copy of the windows 7 beta image, but the file was fine 22.10.21 Quit tessarakt ("Client exiting") 22.10.28 # is there a wiki page with the instructions for removing the OF bootloader? 22.10.44 # sansapatcher -b bootloader.bin 22.10.57 # (iirc, sansapatcher --help should tell) 22.11.16 # can i use that to put the OF one back? 22.11.31 # i'd love to see if theres a difference in battery life between the two 22.12.03 # saratoga: I'm not entirely sure if that's revertable without e200tool 22.12.50 # I haven't tried, in theory sansapatcher should be able to patch the OF's bootloader.rom 22.13.50 Join tessarakt [0] (n=jens@e180071119.adsl.alicedsl.de) 22.14.25 # i've been meaning to do power measurements with a DMM using different ways of booting rockbox and the OF to see if the idle power changes 22.15.02 Quit tvelocity[away] (Connection timed out) 22.15.11 # I haven't noticed battery life improvements due to removing the OF bootloader 22.15.17 # nor decreases 22.16.01 Quit XavierGr (Nick collision from services.) 22.16.12 Join XavierGr [0] (n=xavier@rockbox/staff/XavierGr) 22.17.00 # kugel: did you battery bench both? 22.17.21 # i haven't noticed a difference, but runtime is so long it woulnd't be hard for it to change by half an hour without me noticing 22.18.14 # saratoga: well, not exactly. but my battery benches don't differ from those who are on the runtime wiki page 22.21.36 # I'm using the unicatcher theme on my e200v2 and when I start up a grey box with "cleared" appears and cabbiev theme shows up. Does starting up with a button pressed cause this and what has been cleared? 22.22.37 # Yes, and your settings have been cleared. 22.22.42 # on e200v1, holding REC on startup causes a "cleared" message indicating cleared settings 22.22.59 # yep that's the one I'm trying... 22.23.01 # Shouldn't it be saying "settings cleared"? 22.23.28 # just says cleared.. 22.23.31 # FlynDice: how are you using a e200v2? 22.23.42 # you can't use any buttons afaik 22.24.19 # I can use buttons and scrollwheel in unicatcher very well 22.24.38 # how? what did you change? 22.24.41 # buttons don't depend on wps theme at all 22.25.15 # i thought we had buttons on the v2 now 22.25.20 # Unhelpful: you never know what suprises the ams sansas can offer ;) 22.25.24 # I'm just telling you what I can do... I don't know why.. 22.25.50 # saratoga: not for e/c200v2 (at least nothing working in svn) 22.26.08 # I found the record button on dbop 15 and have been trying to get that to work... 22.26.14 # FlynDice: how did you change the source code I mean 22.26.43 # I used the patch sko posted in the forum 22.26.44 # ah well, you're probably not resetting the button state in the driver probably 22.27.07 # with the fuze code 22.28.03 # FlynDice: you can edit debug-target.h and debug-as3525.c so you can watch dbop in the system->debug->view io ports menu 22.28.08 # I think I'm going to make a wiki pages about FM tuners and make a list of what player use what FM tuner chip 22.28.08 Join Zoxc [0] (n=viom@ti0128a340-dhcp0017.bb.online.no) 22.28.49 # yes have to change --debop_din to DBOP_DIN though 22.28.59 Join MethoS- [0] (n=lem@host-091-097-241-018.ewe-ip-backbone.de) 22.29.05 # no.. 22.29.06 # er __debop_din 22.29.24 # yes, that's what I did in the fuze button code 22.29.32 # sko's patch is outdated in this regards 22.29.58 # you got something better for me to fiddle with then? 22.30.19 # no, 22.30.52 # but you could paste your diff to http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/9639 22.31.30 # hmm managed to "brick" it trying to update the bootloader 22.31.46 # really? 22.31.53 # i.e. svn bootloader is broken? 22.32.03 # yeah I used the downloaded bootloader with -bl 22.32.18 # "the downloaded"? 22.32.23 # that's not the svn bootloader 22.32.35 # its not? 22.32.38 # Isn't the downloaded bootloader an mi4? 22.32.50 # http://download.rockbox.org/bootloader/sandisk-sansa/e200/PP5022.mi4 22.32.52 # -bl requires ".bin" - i.e. a raw file, no header. 22.32.55 # I'm using http://svn.rockbox.org/viewvc.cgi?view=rev&revision=19222 as bootloader btw 22.33.01 # ah ok 22.33.08 # well it should be fixable with e200tool anyway 22.33.32 Join tvelocity[away] [0] (n=tony@adsl24-252.her.forthnet.gr) 22.33.35 # Yes, you've just broken the contents of the firmware partition - e200tool will fix it. 22.34.13 # hm, when I tried to flash it with a .mi4, sansapatcher refused to do it 22.34.34 # but I think I compiled sansapatcher myself 22.36.46 # should I be able to see the sansa with lsusb? 22.37.54 # not sure, does the wheel come up? 22.38.17 # yes its a solid blue wheel, meaning I'm in the PP ROM 22.38.18 # run e200tool init, it will succeed if the sansa is connected 22.38.58 Quit tvelocity[away] (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 22.41.21 Quit timc (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 22.44.29 Join timc [0] (n=aoeu@124.93.243.83) 22.44.40 Join domonoky [0] (n=Domonoky@rockbox/developer/domonoky) 22.47.31 Join rocko [0] (n=rocko@c-67-167-117-152.hsd1.il.comcast.net) 22.48.00 Quit tvelocity[a] (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 22.51.44 # in recovery mode do I actually need to copy the bootloader rom again? 22.52.40 Quit moos ("Rockbox rules the DAP world") 22.53.26 Quit rocko ("Leaving") 22.53.37 # saratoga: yes 22.54.30 # saratoga: e200tool only executes the recoverymode from RAM, it's not on the storage at that point 22.54.47 # ah that makes sense 22.55.00 # is it necessary to add the format file too? 22.55.10 # or is it smart enough to copy the mi4 and rom over 22.55.21 # iirc it's not necessary 22.55.50 # i'll have to update the unbrick page a bit after all this 22.56.39 # any specific reason why LANG_SERIAL_BITRATE_19200 thinks it deserves a spot in .lang? %d not good enough for it? 22.57.23 # , vs . for digit grouping? 22.58.12 # serial_port: "19200" <- doesn't show much digit grouping 22.59.02 # Unhelpful: even if it is, I don't think digit grouping should be handled by langs 22.59.03 # but I haven't had much rb time lately so maybe I missed a discussion about it 23.00.42 Quit domonoky (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 23.00.43 # (same goes for 9600 btw... auto, I can understand) 23.00.57 # petur: Is this part of the ipod accessory protocol commit? 23.01.06 # s/9600/9600 and the others 23.01.18 # could be 23.01.29 # I'll have a look 23.02.23 # Seems to be - http://svn.rockbox.org/viewvc.cgi?view=rev&revision=19585 23.02.57 # yups 23.03.07 # * linuxstb looks towards saratoga 23.03.47 Join pixelma_ [0] (n=pixelma@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 23.03.49 Join amiconn_ [50] (n=jens@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 23.03.49 Quit amiconn (Nick collision from services.) 23.04.05 Nick amiconn_ is now known as amiconn (n=jens@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 23.05.23 # perhaps it's to have the various numeric values interchangeable with the "auto" value, with the same format string? 23.05.55 # i'm not sure why its like that 23.06.00 # but at least my sansa works 23.08.08 # "but it works" is rarely a good answer :p 23.08.56 Quit TMM ("Ex-Chat") 23.13.13 Join casainho [0] (n=chatzill@bl9-153-49.dsl.telepac.pt) 23.13.54 Quit saratoga ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 23.14.29 Join TMM [0] (n=hp@5ED10264.cable.ziggo.nl) 23.16.03 # hello :-) 23.16.08 # soap: The uneven size reduction is mainly due to the different code density of the architectures. What you see are code savings; the ram saving (which is equal on all targets) isn't visible, because it used buffer_alloc() 23.17.12 # thank you amiconn. 23.18.23 # So the savings are actually much larger than what you see 23.18.48 Join rocko [0] (n=rocko@c-67-167-117-152.hsd1.il.comcast.net) 23.18.56 Quit rocko (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 23.20.10 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 23.20.24 # An instance of struct cuesheet takes almost 72KB 23.20.30 Quit pixelma (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 23.21.55 # I am getting PC jumping to strange addresses and right after going the undefined instruction vector -- here is the piece of code that is giving me porblems... I am using JTAG debug: http://pastebin.com/m1b8fdd62 23.27.57 Join saratoga [0] (n=9803c6dd@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-1a145078c63eea9b) 23.28.12 # kugel: for what its worth, switching back to the OF bootloader fixed the USB detection issue i was having 23.28.33 # do you happen to know if it was a specific svn revision that introduced this problem? 23.29.25 # no...the problems started when I switched to KDE actually (which was about the same time when jhMikeS committed his work) 23.29.45 # I didn't change my bootloader in a while though, I have no idea how this is all connected 23.33.54 # i think something that changed in rockbox impacted USB detection in the OF, unless you've got the OF bootloader installed 23.34.06 # probably because the OF bootloader reinitializes whatever rockbox changed 23.34.25 # here are two images showing the debug session and the PC on a weird address: 23.34.27 # http://flickr.com/photos/43558168@N00/3242550058/sizes/o/ 23.34.50 # http://flickr.com/photos/43558168@N00/3242550052/sizes/o/ 23.37.13 # does anyone have any idea why that strange behaviour with this piece of code? : http://pastebin.com/m1b8fdd62 23.39.57 # it looks like firmware/driver/serial.c contains some unused cruft 23.42.19 # casainho: sectorcount and last-first should match, right? 23.42.31 Quit obo ("Bye") 23.43.40 # kugel: I don't really know... you think that is the problem? 23.43.52 # no idea 23.44.12 # maybe you put a diff instead of the snippet 23.44.31 # we can't tell what you changed (and, besides, fat.c shouldn't need to be changed at all) 23.44.34 # kugel: I didn't change that file!!! 23.45.20 # so your sd driver seems not working correctly 23.45.33 # kugel: just hapens that doing debug I can see that loop happening, and i incrementing... and if I put it on run, it jumps to that weird addrress :-( 23.45.37 # or your linker script is not correct 23.45.57 # bertrik: ? 23.46.26 # hmm... why do you think my SD Card driver is not working correctly? I can't understand why it could give problens... 23.46.40 # there's a dprintf function in serial.c that doesn't seem to be used 23.47.55 # e200 compiles serial.c but I doubt if it actually uses any function of it 23.49.21 # Hmm, that dprintf was originally introduced for the beast only 23.49.33 # LinusN moced it out of that #ifdef ... 23.49.37 # *moved 23.50.00 # Wasn't he working on serial for pp? 23.50.04 # saratoga committed that 23.50.50 # r14812 introduced dprintf, r19585 moved it (and yes, that's the accessory protocol support commit) 23.52.23 # kugel: thanks :-) -- I need to go now 23.52.32 # witouth PC baterry :-(... 23.52.35 Quit casainho ("ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 3.0.5/2008121622]") 23.53.26 # saratoga: I'll update my bootloader 23.53.37 # let's see if jhMikeS's commit changed anything 23.53.45 # (to the bootloader that is)