--- Log for 05.02.109 Server: grisham.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 7 hours and 37 minutes ago 00.00.51 Quit mDemocritus (Remote closed the connection) 00.01.14 Quit gregzx ("ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 3.0/2008052906]") 00.09.49 Join rocko [0] (n=rocko@c-67-167-117-152.hsd1.il.comcast.net) 00.11.15 Quit tessarakt ("Client exiting") 00.11.19 Quit captainkwel ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") 00.16.45 Quit petur (Remote closed the connection) 00.19.28 Join Rob2222 [0] (n=Miranda@p4FDCD027.dip.t-dialin.net) 00.21.00 Join bmbl [0] (n=Miranda@unaffiliated/bmbl) 00.21.19 Quit bmbl (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 00.23.04 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 00.30.36 Join bmbl [0] (n=Miranda@unaffiliated/bmbl) 00.30.47 Quit bmbl (Remote closed the connection) 00.32.56 Quit evilnick ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") 00.38.07 Quit Rob2223 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00.40.28 Quit MethoS- ("Konversation terminated!") 00.40.38 Join MethoS- [0] (n=lem@host-091-096-213-131.ewe-ip-backbone.de) 00.40.53 Quit faemir ("Lost terminal") 00.52.54 Nick JdGordon|zzz is now known as JdGordon (n=jonno@rockbox/developer/JdGordon) 00.55.26 Quit timc ("Leaving") 00.55.35 Quit Oliver_ () 00.55.54 Join timc [0] (n=aoeu@124.93.243.83) 01.00.12 Join CaptainKewl [0] (i=jds@207-237-172-77.c3-0.nyr-ubr4.nyr.ny.cable.rcn.com) 01.01.57 # good morning. I have a new custom vp version 01.02.08 Part toffe82 01.02.47 Join goffa_ [0] (n=goffa@216.220.23.105) 01.03.04 # kugel: I just read a bit of the log that you readded the tick task? 01.09.06 # yea, but I already removed it 01.09.28 # apparently it's not allowed 01.09.34 # it 01.10.28 # it's not needed if the wps restores the backdrop properly (which it isn't doing currently). the dead parts I was having problems with was only the wps backdrop, none of the wps elemets (took me some minutes to figure that out) 01.11.18 Join PaulJam [0] (n=PaulJam_@vpn-3006.gwdg.de) 01.12.07 # JdGordon: I noticed viewport_set_defaults doesn't set the drawmode, intention? 01.12.42 # whoops, it does 01.13.11 # eh, my setting-to-viewport parser function doesn't I mean :P 01.13.14 # nighty all 01.15.09 # Qball: night 01.15.36 Join DerPapst [0] (n=DerPapst@p579B2281.dip.t-dialin.net) 01.15.58 # lo all 01.17.04 Quit goffa (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 01.18.02 # JdGordon: in lamp.c there is a bug. if (!IS_SYSEVENT(button)) needs to be if (IS_SYSEVENT(button)). 01.19.57 Quit flydutch ("/* empty */") 01.21.09 # ah yes, you told me about that ages ago i forgot to fix it... 01.21.18 # ;) 01.21.18 # thaks, ill do that soonish 01.27.16 Join LambdaCalculus37 [0] (n=rmenes@rockbox/staff/LambdaCalculus37) 01.29.48 Quit ender` (" Connection Reset by Gypsies with Wire Cutters") 01.31.50 Quit Thundercloud (Remote closed the connection) 01.33.00 Quit PaulJam__ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 01.36.13 Quit undertakingyou (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 02.05.59 Join HellDragon [0] (n=jd@modemcable022.187-203-24.mc.videotron.ca) 02.06.06 Quit hd (Connection reset by peer) 02.06.53 Join gregorovius [0] (n=diego@host171.190-226-180.telecom.net.ar) 02.08.48 Join evilnick [0] (i=620ec27e@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-963d441d03d6d1e0) 02.23.05 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 02.26.02 Join BHSPitMonkey [0] (n=stephen@unaffiliated/bhspitmonkey) 02.36.03 Quit MethoS- (Remote closed the connection) 02.41.43 Join cool_walking_ [0] (n=anthony@203-59-129-195.perm.iinet.net.au) 02.43.31 # on the mrobe:100 is the power "switch" actually a hard poweroff or can short presses of it be used for other things in plugins? 02.52.08 # haha, I was hunting a misspelled #ifdef for 1.5 hours 02.52.23 # JdGordon: you may look at http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/8799 :) 02.52.56 # also, can the "power" switch on the iaudio x5/m5 be used as a button? the description of it sounds scary 02.53.15 # kugel: hhaahhaa 02.53.19 # and thanks for the permission :p 02.54.02 # kadoban: On the X5/M5, some of the plugins use power as a button. 02.54.16 # But I can't check because my X5 isn't working right now. 02.54.43 # JdGordon: no prob :p 02.54.46 # kugel: btw... we need a better name than custom_cp :p 02.54.50 # LambdaCalculus37: okay, thanks. 02.54.57 # sure, we can talk about names later 02.55.27 # * kugel was focussing on getting it working recently 02.56.03 # s/recently/today 02.56.08 # your still not there.... you need to replae set_statusbar() with your added stuff 02.56.25 # I know that you want that 02.56.40 # ok, just making sure you havnt ignored/forgotten that :) 02.56.40 # I would want that too, but I would consider this could be a seperate commit 02.56.49 # na 02.56.57 # my patch surely doesn't aim to remake the whole statusbar thing once more 02.58.28 # * JdGordon bbl 02.59.23 Join undertakingyou [0] (n=will@undertakingyou.dsl.xmission.com) 02.59.54 Join _lifeless [0] (n=lifeless@94.50.183.152) 03.01.29 Quit efyx_ (Remote closed the connection) 03.05.23 # nighty night :) 03.05.27 Quit DerPapst ("iPodLinux rocks!") 03.07.48 Quit kugel (Remote closed the connection) 03.11.42 Join Darksair [0] (n=user@221.221.160.45) 03.12.55 Join __lifeless [0] (n=lifeless@90.151.33.125) 03.13.18 Quit _lifeless (Remote closed the connection) 03.13.36 Nick fxb is now known as fxb__ (n=felixbru@h1252615.stratoserver.net) 03.15.23 Quit HellDragon (Client Quit) 03.27.45 Join HellDragon [0] (n=jd@modemcable022.187-203-24.mc.videotron.ca) 03.28.48 Quit rocko ("Leaving") 03.36.45 Join skylar [0] (n=markhill@pool-70-19-230-64.bos.east.verizon.net) 03.37.45 Quit evilnick ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") 03.37.58 Part skylar 03.53.02 Quit Darksair ("Use the Force, Luke!") 03.53.43 Quit Llorean (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 03.54.46 Join Llorean [0] (n=DarkkOne@ppp-70-243-32-116.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net) 03.57.48 Quit timc (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 04.10.46 Join timc [0] (n=aoeu@124.93.243.83) 04.18.15 Join blkhawk- [0] (n=blkhawk@e179050225.adsl.alicedsl.de) 04.19.37 Join Rob2223 [0] (n=Miranda@p4FDCD027.dip.t-dialin.net) 04.19.46 Quit Rob2222 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 04.21.15 Quit Aurix_Lexico (Remote closed the connection) 04.21.30 Join fdinel [0] (n=Miranda@modemcable204.232-203-24.mc.videotron.ca) 04.23.09 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 04.34.57 Quit blkhawk (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 04.35.13 Nick blkhawk- is now known as blkhawk (n=blkhawk@e179050225.adsl.alicedsl.de) 04.41.50 Join Barahir_ [0] (n=jonathan@X95f2.x.pppool.de) 04.48.49 Join gromit` [0] (n=gromit@ALagny-154-1-12-250.w83-112.abo.wanadoo.fr) 04.50.19 Quit gregorovius () 04.50.35 Quit gromit` (Client Quit) 04.52.37 Quit miepchen^schlaf (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 04.56.04 Quit Barahir (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 05.10.13 Quit Horscht ("Verlassend") 05.12.18 Quit LambdaCalculus37 ("Fwump") 05.13.05 Join Darksair [0] (n=user@221.221.160.45) 05.27.21 Quit CaptainKewl (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 05.33.29 Join rocko [0] (n=rocko@c-67-167-117-152.hsd1.il.comcast.net) 05.36.21 # Have any of you experienced linux corrupting filesystems on fat32 flash drives? 05.36.49 # orsonj: are you unmounting the drive before removing it? 05.37.38 # I think so. I click the eject button, wait several seconds, then remove. 05.38.18 # orsonj: well, there shouldbe some indication that it's finished writing (on mine, it sometimes takes longer than i'd think), but that's generally right 05.41.49 # Anyway, as far as i know fat32 is quite well supported in linux. I've never had any problems. 05.41.58 # I experience problems before trying to eject/unmount 05.42.36 # orsonj: is this after repairing the filesystem? if the filesystem is already corrupted, you'll of course run into problems... 05.42.39 # I have a sansa c250 (it can format itself, handy for dealing with this situation) 05.43.26 # I copied a few files on it from vista, then verified it worked by playing them using the sansa firmware. 05.44.00 # I plugged it into ubuntu 8.10 and it doesn't list the files 05.44.32 # If I copy files onto it using ubuntu, it corrupts the filesystem. 05.45.01 # orsonj: is this right after formatting the filesystem, or is the filesystem in an uncertain state at this time? 05.45.15 Join yhuang [0] (n=yhuang@unaffiliated/yhuang) 05.45.17 # yep, right after doing a self format 05.45.21 Quit shodanX (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 05.45.30 # that's quite odd then... 05.46.16 # I'm not quite sure who to talk to about submitting a bug report. I'd guess linux kernel people, but can't say for sure. 05.46.31 # i use ubuntu as well (well, kubuntu) and almost the same player...but i've never had any problems 05.46.44 Quit sarixe ("Bye") 05.46.55 # I've had similar problems with flash cards for my camera too. 05.47.05 Join sarixe [0] (n=sarixe@ool-43540968.dyn.optonline.net) 05.47.32 # It wasn't until I got the sansa and started playing with rockbox that I was able to get problems predictibly. 05.49.25 Join shodanX [0] (n=shodanX@jazz.informatik.uni-erlangen.de) 05.55.52 Join LoloLO [0] (n=digital@cpe-76-172-147-252.socal.res.rr.com) 05.56.21 # Hi, would you know if i can use a 1.8v DDR SDRAM chip with 1.8v Mobile SDR SDRAM controller ? 05.58.31 # methinks you have the wrong channel.. 06.05.17 # there might be electronic guru here.. :) 06.05.26 # is there a policy with respect to external links in the manual? 06.05.53 # LoloLO: but there is also a rule that text here should be rockbox related 06.23.11 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 06.26.16 Join cool_walking__ [0] (n=anthony@203-59-129-195.perm.iinet.net.au) 06.26.16 Quit cool_walking_ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 06.26.34 Quit cool_walking__ (Remote closed the connection) 06.43.10 Quit LoloLO () 06.54.00 Quit fdinel ("Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org") 07.46.05 Join balug [0] (n=dvg@HSI-KBW-078-042-132-156.hsi3.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de) 07.46.39 Quit Beta2K_ (Remote closed the connection) 07.46.43 Join Beta2K [0] (n=beta@d36-78-228.home1.cgocable.net) 07.59.33 Quit martian67 (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 08.08.09 Quit JdGordon (Remote closed the connection) 08.08.41 Join bertrik [0] (n=bertrik@ip117-49-211-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl) 08.09.51 Join JdGordon [0] (n=Miranda@123-243-140-31.static.tpgi.com.au) 08.23.12 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 08.28.48 Quit bertrik (Remote closed the connection) 08.32.08 Join SUSaiyan [0] (n=SUSaiyan@cc84863-b.zwoll1.ov.home.nl) 08.33.15 Quit balug ("Ex-Chat") 08.36.46 Quit z35 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 08.38.18 Join jack_ [0] (n=jack@c-24-19-225-90.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) 08.43.28 Join ender` [0] (i=krneki@foo.eternallybored.org) 08.44.05 Join LinusN [0] (n=linus@rockbox/developer/LinusN) 08.49.40 Quit FlynDice (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 08.52.27 # kadoban: I wouldn't use the Power button on the M5/X5 for anything else than a quit or to bring up a menu because - it's not a normal button you press but is a bit more like a switch that you have to push upwords and holding Power for 10..15s is a hard power-off 08.52.44 # upwards too 08.53.10 Join Rob2222 [0] (n=Miranda@p4FDCE9D7.dip.t-dialin.net) 08.53.15 # pixelma: ahh, thanks. it is indeed for a menu 08.54.13 # you also can't use button combos on them (only with power which is not a good idea) 08.54.44 # yeah, i'm not using too many of those. too hard to wrap my head around making the code for them even semi-clean looking 09.03.40 Join Bagderr [241] (n=daniel@rockbox/developer/bagder) 09.04.07 Nick Bagderr is now known as B4gder (n=daniel@rockbox/developer/bagder) 09.07.17 Join petur [50] (n=petur@rockbox/developer/petur) 09.07.37 Join martian67 [0] (i=user6962@about/linux/regular/martian67) 09.08.05 Nick Barahir_ is now known as Barahir (n=jonathan@X95f2.x.pppool.de) 09.10.30 Quit Rob2223 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 09.13.56 Quit XavierGr () 09.15.51 Join Zagor [242] (n=bjorn@rockbox/developer/Zagor) 09.25.43 Quit BHSPitMonkey ("Ex-Chat") 09.26.10 Join gromit` [0] (n=gromit@ALagny-154-1-87-125.w81-48.abo.wanadoo.fr) 09.29.50 Quit rocko (Client Quit) 09.34.44 Quit gromit`` (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 09.43.27 Quit kachna (Remote closed the connection) 09.43.38 Join kachna [0] (n=kachna@r4ax178.net.upc.cz) 09.49.55 Quit Darksair ("Everything that has a beginning has an end.") 09.51.26 Quit Boulet (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 09.53.30 Join Thundercloud [0] (n=thunderc@cpc3-hem18-0-0-cust53.lutn.cable.ntl.com) 10.05.01 Quit JdGordon (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 10.08.17 Join JdGordon [0] (n=jonno@rockbox/developer/JdGordon) 10.15.34 Join pyro_m4niac [0] (i=foobar@p57BB96A6.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 10.23.16 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 10.30.46 Quit ender` (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 10.31.19 Join ender` [0] (i=krneki@foo.eternallybored.org) 10.34.05 Quit Thundercloud (Remote closed the connection) 10.34.14 Nick fxb__ is now known as fxb (n=felixbru@h1252615.stratoserver.net) 10.48.13 Join perrikwp [0] (i=18ac0c41@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-c0b536e259f91b64) 11.02.28 Quit GodEater_ ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") 11.02.43 Join GodEater_ [0] (i=c2cbc962@rockbox/staff/GodEater) 11.14.02 Join faemir [0] (n=daniel@88-106-160-228.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) 11.25.57 Join fyrestorm [0] (n=fyre@cpe-24-90-81-211.nyc.res.rr.com) 11.29.40 Quit linuxstb (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 11.30.02 Quit fyrestorm (Client Quit) 11.38.07 Join SirFunk [0] (n=Sir@208-15-25-145.netsync.net) 11.42.05 Join einhirn [0] (i=Miranda@bsod.rz.tu-clausthal.de) 11.53.14 Quit SirFunk_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 11.53.52 Join MethoS- [0] (n=lem@host-091-096-212-155.ewe-ip-backbone.de) 12.06.41 Join linuxstb [0] (n=linuxstb@rockbox/developer/linuxstb) 12.18.20 Join qurvel [0] (n=qurvel@i58-93-37-220.s02.a013.ap.plala.or.jp) 12.22.43 Join kugel [0] (n=kugel@rockbox/developer/kugel) 12.23.19 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 12.24.32 Quit __lifeless (Remote closed the connection) 12.41.26 Quit qurvel (Remote closed the connection) 12.44.34 Quit undertakingyou (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 12.44.45 Join undertakingyou [0] (n=will@undertakingyou.dsl.xmission.com) 12.46.25 Quit ChanServ (shutting down) 12.47.55 Join ChanServ [0] (ChanServ@services.) 12.47.55 Mode "#rockbox +o ChanServ " by irc.freenode.net 12.49.50 Join mcuelenaere [0] (n=mcuelena@rockbox/developer/mcuelenaere) 12.54.32 Quit rvvs89 (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 13.04.59 Join bmbl [0] (n=Miranda@unaffiliated/bmbl) 13.12.10 Join gregzx [0] (n=chatzill@dtk68.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) 13.12.52 Join bs66_ [0] (n=sysuser@94.191.165.152.bredband.tre.se) 13.14.38 Quit bs66_1 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 13.16.35 Join Horscht [0] (n=Horscht@xbmc/user/horscht) 13.23.15 Join Aurix_Lexico [0] (n=comrade@c-68-56-205-239.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) 13.33.18 Join mcuelenaere_ [0] (n=mcuelena@rockbox/developer/mcuelenaere) 13.34.33 Quit mcuelenaere (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 13.35.28 Join dfkt [0] (i=dfkt@unaffiliated/dfkt) 13.37.04 Join dberg918 [0] (n=dave@cpe-098-121-161-003.ec.res.rr.com) 13.38.16 Join Lynx_ [0] (n=till@xdsl-87-78-180-36.netcologne.de) 13.39.02 # has anyone else gotten a weird "Data abort" error that clears the WPS screen before? 13.39.06 Quit Seed ("cu, Andre") 13.43.58 # I'm just curious as to what it means, exactly 13.44.20 # if it's software or hardware-related 13.45.09 # dberg918: i believe it's something like a "segmentation fault", except not as specific. it can be either software or hardware (hardware failure can cause most anything) 13.48.45 Join robin0800 [0] (n=quassel@cpc3-brig8-0-0-cust436.brig.cable.ntl.com) 13.49.24 # I see 13.49.44 # well my player was cold when it happened, I wonder if that has anything to do with it 13.49.54 Join MethoS-- [0] (n=lem@host-091-096-215-093.ewe-ip-backbone.de) 13.50.31 Quit kugel (Remote closed the connection) 13.50.47 # it also seems to happen when I try to play one particular song 13.51.26 # dberg918: either thing could cause it (cold electronics are bad to use, quite often), and broken files can cause something like that i am quite sure 13.51.31 # or even rockbox bugs 13.52.03 # I'm planning to update the firmware today, I'm running a relatively old build right now 13.52.10 # r19610 13.53.33 # that's generally a good idea if you're getting something unexpected 13.54.16 # it's funny, because I've gotten this error before on my H10, but never on my Gigabeat 14.02.04 Part B4gder 14.04.06 Join fyrestorm [0] (n=fyre@cpe-68-173-235-67.nyc.res.rr.com) 14.05.10 Quit Aurix_Lexico (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 14.05.13 # kadoban: If a broken file causes this, I'd call that a rockbox bug as well. Broken files should never crash rockbox. 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I mean it's Player only 15.57.04 Join MethoS- [0] (n=lem@host-091-097-244-036.ewe-ip-backbone.de) 15.57.08 # J-23: I already wondered that too 15.57.25 # I wonder what it is good for these days though 15.57.33 # yea 15.57.55 # * n1s wonders that too and asked a long while ago but iirc someone found it useful back then... 15.58.04 # Probably worthless now, though. 15.58.13 # if it was a generic currency converter, but this one afaik does only the old currencies to "new" euro 15.58.20 # but you people in € countries are probably the best judges of that 15.58.22 # we could remove the player port and kill 2 birds with one stone :D 15.58.30 # lol :) 15.58.53 # JdGordon: I saw the player gave you a red again recently :P 15.58.56 # it's oh sooo funny 15.58.57 # Hell no! Why should we forget where we started? ;) 15.59.34 # who said "forget"? 16.00.23 # kugel: JdGordon's mention of removing the Player port (misunderstood it). 16.00.37 Quit MethoS- (Remote closed the connection) 16.00.50 # you dont have to forget somehing just because its removed... 16.01.08 # you dont forget a tumour just because it gets removed.... 16.01.19 # when JdGordon says remove, he means branch out and put the branch on an altar 16.01.50 # tumour, nice comparision :p 16.02.35 Join J-23_ [0] (n=zelazko@unix.net.pl) 16.02.50 # Hi, I just registered on the Rockbox Wiki as JohnDobbler to create a page on enabling UDMA in player's USB-ATA bridge. Is it possible for someone to grant me write permission for the Wki, please? 16.03.08 # * DerPapst doesn't know how to 16.03.17 Quit J-23 (Nick collision from services.) 16.03.39 Nick J-23_ is now known as J-23 (n=zelazko@unix.net.pl) 16.04.10 # Dobbley: sure, what's your wiki name? 16.04.20 # though a unit converter would be a nice thing... you could even steal larger parts of it from iPL ^^ 16.04.27 # Dobbley: oh sorry, you mentioned it 16.04.57 # ah, I see kugel is already on it 16.05.11 # DerPapst: yeah, that could be nice 16.05.14 # he, I stopped since I thought you're at it 16.05.22 # so, I'm going to do it now 16.05.25 # DerPapst: just add his name to TWikiUsersGroup if you would like to give him write permission 16.05.42 # ah :D i always searched for a button ^^ 16.05.43 # kugel: ah, well the wiki said you were working on it.. 16.06.25 # Dobbley: done, promise not to spam! 16.06.48 # mcuelenaere: I clicked edit, then close tab (after reading your comment here) :P 16.07.06 # Many thanks 16.07.17 # you forgot your promise 16.07.31 Join MethoS- [0] (n=lem@host-091-097-244-036.ewe-ip-backbone.de) 16.09.10 Quit Dobbley ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 16.10.09 Join Beta2K_ [0] (n=beta@d36-78-228.home1.cgocable.net) 16.10.44 Quit Beta2K (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 16.15.35 # i just want to know your opinion... is it better in mandelbrot to clear the button queue after each calculation or zoom in e.g. 20 times without stopping if you press zoom 20 times? 16.17.20 Quit petur ("let's see if we'll buy that house or not...") 16.18.22 # imo it should clear the queue 16.19.28 # especially since calculation can last really long you may accidentally "freeze" your player 16.19.28 # thats my opinion too 16.19.42 # any other opinions? 16.20.15 # * DerPapst agrees 16.20.46 # if you could limit the queue length, that'd probably be better than either 16.21.22 # here the required suggestion on comitting a patch :) 16.21.27 # http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/4719 does exactly this 16.21.39 # (clearing button queue) 16.23.24 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 16.23.53 Nick JdGordon is now known as JdGordon|zzz (n=jonno@rockbox/developer/JdGordon) 16.25.16 Join kferdous [0] (i=ivan@unaffiliated/kferdous) 16.25.22 # Hi everyone 16.25.43 # lo kferdous 16.25.48 # How are you? 16.26.22 # fine :D thanks 16.26.30 # No problem :) 16.26.36 # ? 16.26.45 # ? 16.26.59 # So yeap. Going to try to install RB on my ipod for the first time. 16.27.15 Quit robin0800 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 16.27.16 # kferdous: What generation is the iPod? 16.27.38 # The iPod Video the 80GB one. 16.27.55 # Are you sure it isn't an iPod classic? 16.28.07 # nope not the classic 16.28.14 # I have a class as well 16.28.19 # the 160GB 16.28.39 # I just got mine back from repair from apple today (the 80gb 5.5) 16.28.44 # * DerPapst suggest to swap the hdds :D 16.29.03 # * evilnick_7 would definitely do that, but are they compatible? 16.29.08 # DerPapst: Not compatible. 16.29.09 # jep 16.29.12 # no? 16.29.16 # bummer 16.29.26 # i though both are zif ;) 16.29.27 # The 160GB drive in the Classic uses a CE-ATA connector, and the 80GB model uses ZIF. 16.29.34 # ah 16.29.39 # The 120GB also uses ZIF, AFAIK. 16.30.08 # Thing is I don't know where to start 16.30.35 # kferdous: the manual 16.31.46 # http://download.rockbox.org/manual/rockbox-ipodvideo/rockbox-buildch2.html#x4-80002.2 that? 16.31.48 Part jon-kha ("[IRSSI] The Invisible Man uses Irssi, you just can't see it!") 16.31.57 # is CE-ATA what the minis are using? 16.32.06 Join jon-kha [0] (i=jon-kha@kahvi.eu.org) 16.33.54 # pata 16.34.22 # DerPapst: you might want to check the HardDriveReplacement wikipage 16.35.06 # :) 16.38.28 Join toffe82 [0] (n=chatzill@h-74-0-180-178.snvacaid.covad.net) 16.45.24 # Why does the program autodetect the 60/80gb as 30? 16.45.45 # there is no way to be 100% sure that the 60/80GB has 64MB 16.45.48 # of ram 16.46.01 # oh 16.46.06 # What do I do about that? 16.46.13 # that's why it installes the 30GB version which works for sure 16.46.37 # you can download the 64MB version after installing and put that on your player 16.46.50 # Ok I'm lost 16.47.14 # heh.. just proceed with the installation 16.47.39 # so let the 30gb stay as is? 16.47.45 # or select the 60/80? 16.48.12 # if you can select the 60/80GB version you can do that 16.48.15 # oh ok 16.48.40 # * DerPapst never used rbutil and didn't know that you can select that :D 16.49.22 # * GodEater_ suggests DerPapst check it out some time 16.49.51 # if i get a new target that is supported by rbutl i'll do so ;) 16.50.58 # I clicked on the full install 16.55.36 Quit Zagor ("Client exiting") 16.56.30 Join tyfoo [0] (n=tyfoo@77-20-31-238-dynip.superkabel.de) 16.58.18 # Ok after I do that 16.58.28 # do I have to click on the other tabs? 16.58.31 # Or I should be done? 16.59.51 Quit bs66_ (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 17.02.00 # Ok here is the stupid question. Where do I place the music? 17.02.45 # wherever you want 17.02.51 # ? 17.02.55 # I mean no folder for it? 17.03.00 # Just drag and drop? 17.03.04 # no you can use any folder 17.03.06 # yes 17.03.10 # oh ok 17.03.14 # :) 17.03.18 # I'm going to give it a try now 17.03.23 # thank you once again 17.03.24 # kferdous: It's not recommended to store it in ".rockbox" but aside from that, anywhere should be fine. 17.03.30 # Oh ok 17.04.04 # and that means "not anywhere in .rockbox, not even in a sub folder" 17.04.23 # though it would work ^^ 17.04.45 Join pH1 [0] (n=ph@ADijon-256-1-134-247.w90-6.abo.wanadoo.fr) 17.05.09 # hi everyone 17.05.19 # DerPapst: the .rockbox dir defaults to having an ignore file in it, so stuff in there doesn't get indexed by the database 17.05.24 # DerPapst: It wouldn't be indexed by the database (unless one were to delete the database.ignore file) in .rockbox 17.05.27 # which is why we say "don't put your music there" 17.05.40 # but you still could if you *really* wanted to 17.05.41 # i know. :P 17.05.44 Join saratoga [0] (n=9803c6dd@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-6a619ad40c664c1d) 17.07.47 Quit yhuang ("Leaving") 17.07.48 # omg it worked 17.07.48 # :D 17.07.52 # I love you guys 17.07.56 # Finally can play my flacs 17.08.18 # hey i'd like to know if you guys could port rockbox for my device 17.08.26 # no, just kidding 17.08.33 # I found a .patch file that uses explimation points 17.08.34 # http://www3.atwiki.jp/ao?cmd=upload&act=open&pageid=190&file=large_block_speedup.zip 17.08.49 # is that even valid? 17.09.08 # i'm curious since they claim a huge speed up for vorbis decoding on ARM 17.09.53 # saratoga: there are a lot of different patch formats 17.11.50 Join jgarvey [0] (n=jgarvey@cpe-098-026-069-229.nc.res.rr.com) 17.11.59 # saratoga: did you try to apply? 17.15.39 # kugel: am now 17.17.27 # would you happen to know if lots of people own packard bell devices ? i own one myself and would be very interested in porting rockbox on it 17.17.57 # but it seems to be a lot of work for one man 17.18.00 Join nibbler_ [0] (n=Nibbler@pD9E30A04.dip.t-dialin.net) 17.18.25 Quit n17ikh () 17.18.51 # lots of ports have been done by "one man"...though most of them have had a lot of the beginning work done by one person and then others jump on after they see that work is ongoing 17.19.15 # ok 17.19.19 Join SirFunk_ [0] (n=Sir@208-15-25-145.netsync.net) 17.19.30 # so the best is that i start alone 17.19.54 # and if other people are interested, they'll come 17.19.54 # well, the best is that it starts anyway it can ;) 17.20.14 Quit SirFunk (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 17.20.33 # but yes...if you want it to happen, then to start working on it yourself is likely the best way 17.21.10 # ok thanks 17.21.30 Join n17ikh [0] (n=n17ikh@130.127.74.89) 17.21.49 # i already started to disassemble my device 17.22.01 # so far i haven't broken anything 17.22.12 # :) 17.22.43 # saratoga: the format in that patch is just replace lines with ! before them above the ---XX,YY--- with the ones after 17.23.34 # pH1: best is to start a new wiki page and attach some high res scans of the pcb in order to identify the used chips 17.23.42 Join casainho [0] (n=chatzill@87-196-65-8.net.novis.pt) 17.24.19 # DerPapst: ok i'll do that 17.25.36 # saratoga: also LOOKUP_T is already defined as const ogg_int32_t so only the doubling of the iram buffer should have an actual effect 17.25.41 Part LinusN 17.25.53 # might be worth trying out though 17.26.36 # pH1: if you're luck a lot of chips are used in already existing ports, so you don't have to write new drivers ;) 17.27.01 # Guys does it take a long time to transfer files? 17.27.13 # I mean it says 140 mins 17.27.22 # hello :-) -- I would like to creat a wiki page but I am not getting access: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/edit/Main/?topic=RockboxPlayerLittlePrototypeLCD&onlywikiname=on&onlynewtopic=on 17.27.33 # is there any problem with the wiki? 17.27.34 # saratoga: ah, missed that it places a couple more lookup tables in iram too 17.28.58 Join flydutch [0] (n=flydutch@host5-154-dynamic.14-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) 17.29.49 # n1s: i'm actually not seeing an difference in performance 17.29.54 # which is odd 17.29.59 # i would expect some difference 17.30.15 # saratoga: what are you testing on? 17.30.16 Quit pyro_m4niac (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 17.30.36 # sansa e200 17.31.24 # "About 20~23% is improved in the Sansa E200 series. Moreover, it is ineffectual than the file encoded excluding a specific mode." 17.31.26 # maybe i can try it on coldfire later 17.31.34 # what do you think that means? 17.31.51 # can someone creat to me the wiki page: RockboxPlayerLittlePrototypeLCD 17.32.02 # saratoga: no idea 17.32.31 # casainho: aren't there already enough wiki pages about your project? 17.32.33 # saratoga: Possibly that the files have to be encoded in a specific mode to get the speedup? That's how I parsed it anyway. 17.32.48 # s/mode/bitrate setting? 17.33.10 # "The decipherment speed of the OggVorbis file of "Q-1/-2(32kHz~48kHz)" corresponding encoded with libvorbis (AoTuV is included) is speed up." 17.33.16 # so maybe only low bitrate files? 17.33.47 # ugh got to run, will email about this later 17.33.52 # what files do you have? my oggs are q3 17.34.13 # kugel: I don't think so. I would like to creat one for info about the LCD used. Do you sugest anything? 17.35.02 # casainho: we don't need 1 page for each hardware part 17.35.35 # well, whatever, can't you create pages yourself? 17.36.56 # kugel: I don't think so. I would like to creat one for info about the LCD used. Do you sugest anything? 17.37.05 # sory 17.37.27 # can you please create that page? 17.37.44 Quit SirFunk_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 17.38.15 Join SirFunk_ [0] (n=Sir@208-15-25-145.netsync.net) 17.41.13 Join SirFunk [0] (n=Sir@208-15-25-145.netsync.net) 17.41.45 # i'm trying to disassemble my device and i'm blocking with that part http://img11.imageshack.us/my.php?image=imgp3587modho6.png , do you think it is supposed to be removable ? 17.42.23 # it links the pcb to the screen 17.43.46 # be very carefull with those ugly ribbon cables! 17.44.22 # isn't there a latch or something that can be carefully pulled? 17.44.47 # what's the page that has the info on svn merges? 17.44.51 # this black thing 17.45.02 # never mind, I remembered 17.45.05 # recent.shtml 17.45.42 # DerPapst: thanks, that was it 17.45.59 Join BdN3504 [0] (n=55b20911@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-cb81a916114314b7) 17.46.06 Quit kugel (Nick collision from services.) 17.46.09 Join kugel_ [0] (n=kugel@e178108011.adsl.alicedsl.de) 17.46.11 Quit BdN3504 (Client Quit) 17.46.19 Nick kugel_ is now known as kugel (n=kugel@e178108011.adsl.alicedsl.de) 17.46.33 # pH1: :) 17.49.32 # well, now i have a big metal part that was between the screen and the pcb, and it's welded to the pcb 17.49.51 Quit kferdous () 17.49.54 Quit beachsurfin (Connection reset by peer) 17.51.22 # pH1. no good. better leave it there. 17.51.56 # except you're feeling very lucky. 17.52.01 # ;) 17.52.23 Join domonoky [0] (n=Domonoky@rockbox/developer/domonoky) 17.53.10 # have you checked if there are maybe some photos available somewhere in the internet? there are some chinese dap forums where the members disasseble everything they get. 17.58.07 Quit SirFunk_ (Connection timed out) 18.02.03 Quit perrikwp ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") 18.05.08 Join bertrik [0] (n=bertrik@ip117-49-211-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl) 18.05.39 # kugel, I'm thinking of committing the last part of ams radio support today 18.08.12 # bertrik: Cool. :) 18.08.55 Join {phoenix} [0] (n=dirk@p54B478C7.dip.t-dialin.net) 18.10.06 # bertrik: cool, should I test it one more time before? 18.10.19 Nick fxb is now known as fxb__ (n=felixbru@h1252615.stratoserver.net) 18.11.05 # kugel, I think I can test it sufficiently myself on the clip 18.11.22 # hehe ok :) 18.11.28 # I wonder if sansa m200v4 currently has (silent) radio, /me checks 18.11.53 # casainho: btw, we still think the display isn't suitable for a new dap 18.11.54 # bertrik: i think radio for m200v4 is not enabled in the config. 18.12.13 # but if you enable it, nd correctly route the audio, it works fine. 18.12.30 # domonoky, and you also need a SOURCES update to include the tea5767 driver, right? 18.12.54 # casainho: you created the page just for shwoing this picture? 18.12.55 # oh maybe that is done automagically depending on the config setting 18.13.09 # no, i think not, the config entry should handle it. 18.14.14 # jup, firmware/SOURCES checks CONFIG_TUNER 18.14.37 Quit Jaykay (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 18.16.30 Join beachsurfin [0] (n=h@unaffiliated/girlmeteor) 18.20.23 Join Soap_Work [0] (n=42c07542@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-50542b95c9f00862) 18.20.48 # something just crossed my mind. Why is MAME mentioned in the manual at the end of the PacBox section? 18.21.20 # I assume this is what leads to the confusion some people have about the ability to use other ROMs? 18.22.14 Quit synergist (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 18.23.27 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 18.24.37 # Soap_Work: Ahh, I was wondering about that, too. Let me go look at it again. 18.25.30 # Soap_Work: Yes, I think that should be removed. 18.25.50 # I think it was only there since it was mentioned that you can get the Pacbox ROMs off of the MAME set. 18.27.15 # kugel: did you read about the advantages of this LCD? 18.27.45 # there's no advantages for normal users, this lcd is just outdated and ugly 18.27.55 # http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/RockboxPlayerLittlePrototypeLCD 18.28.23 # ok, but I think about making this prototype working and not about final users 18.28.25 # the normal user doesn't care about that 18.28.55 # kugel: and whats the "normal user" for the rockbox player (little) ? 18.29.05 # IF MAME is mentioned because it is hint towards aquiring ROMs from somewhere other than "ripping" your own machine, that (to me) is even more reason to remove the link. Regardless it appears to me to be vestigial 18.29.24 # domonoky: don't ask me. I just know that casainho plans to sell his hardware 18.29.53 # and if he wants many buyers, he should think about a more appealing LCDs 18.30.09 # (alone the fact that it's squared disqualifies it imo) 18.30.13 # kugel: sorry, I didn't wrote nothing yet about the plans, but, this is a kind of prototype, which is not with final hardware 18.30.28 # devil's advocate says "If you can't define 'normal user' - how can you say the screen has no advantage for 'normal users'"? 18.30.33 # * domonoky would think that this rockbox player (at leats the first version) is more for do-it-yourself people, and then the advantages are real. 18.30.47 # I think that MCU can be final or near it, but LCD is not final for sure 18.31.13 # casainho: did you solve your sd-card read problem ? 18.31.46 # domonoky: no, there are still erros and I don't have a clue - even if I can do JTAG debug :-) 18.31.51 # Soap_Work: I know what normal user is for me, but he asked what it is for casainho 18.32.45 # domonoky: do you have knowledge on SPI SD Card protocol? 18.34.38 # casainho: no, but i played my part with the sd-driver for the sansas. So i know a little bit how it works. The actual transfer protokoll shouldnt matter much (spi/Sd-bus) 18.35.47 # domonoky: so, can you please give a look at our drivers and see if there is any problem you can find? 18.36.06 # domonoky: reading one sector seems ok. 18.36.22 # domonoky: I even could creat an empty file 18.36.58 # wow, you could create a 0byte file? nice :P 18.37.17 Quit pH1 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 18.37.44 # kugel: yeh, yeh - it's fun, no? 18.37.48 # Soap_Work: I'll remove that vestigial bit tonight, then. 18.38.08 # kugel: it's empty because the code hangs on fclose(), I think 18.38.38 Join pH1 [0] (n=ph@ADijon-256-1-71-62.w90-26.abo.wanadoo.fr) 18.48.14 Join Rondom [0] (n=Rondom@dslb-084-057-149-057.pools.arcor-ip.net) 18.58.39 Quit nibbler_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 18.59.32 # whoa whoa whoa, LambdaCalculus37. I would not be suprised if there is someone who has an interest in that line, and possibly a good reason for its existance. 18.59.42 Quit sarixe ("Bye") 19.00.29 # yeeha. Actual DMA working on IMX. What a piece of work that thing is. 19.02.29 Quit einhirn ("Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org") 19.03.52 # Soap_Work: All right, I'll hold off from removing it for now. 19.04.01 # jhMikeS: what does it mean , faster access to hd ? 19.04.37 # toffe82: Could be, if we use UDMA mode. It's also of benfit to scaling. 19.06.50 Join Xerion [0] (i=xerion@82-170-197-160.ip.telfort.nl) 19.15.09 Quit kugel (Nick collision from services.) 19.15.12 Join kugel_ [0] (n=kugel@e178085220.adsl.alicedsl.de) 19.15.23 Nick kugel_ is now known as kugel (n=kugel@e178085220.adsl.alicedsl.de) 19.18.47 Join Zoxc [0] (i=Zoxc@ti0128a340-dhcp0017.bb.online.no) 19.19.04 Quit Soap_Work ("CGI:IRC") 19.26.18 Quit jgarvey ("Leaving") 19.26.33 Join jgarvey [0] (n=jgarvey@cpe-098-026-069-229.nc.res.rr.com) 19.29.52 Join Seed [0] (n=ben@bzq-84-108-232-45.cablep.bezeqint.net) 19.34.43 Part pH1 19.34.44 Join rocko [0] (n=rocko@c-67-167-117-152.hsd1.il.comcast.net) 19.34.50 Join domonoky1 [0] (n=Domonoky@g229089094.adsl.alicedsl.de) 19.37.56 # would someone steer me in the right direction to investigate why my e280v2 scroll would work in unicatcher but not cabbiev2? 19.38.25 Quit jack_ ("Konversation terminated!") 19.38.35 Join jack_ [0] (n=jack@c-24-19-225-90.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) 19.38.44 Nick jack_ is now known as FlynDice (n=jack@c-24-19-225-90.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) 19.39.09 # whoops, my 280v2 question... 19.42.53 Join z35 [0] (n=z35@h88.100.91.75.dynamic.ip.windstream.net) 19.43.24 # * domonoky1 finds it still strange, that a wps affects how the buttons work. 19.43.58 # but you could try to block interrupts while doing lcd-transfers, to see if that changes anything. 19.44.50 # maybe it depends on, when and how buttons interrupt the lcd transfers. 19.44.58 # buttons work fine its the scrollwheel 19.45.12 # jeah, i meant the scrollwheel. 19.45.44 # or more exactly: dbop reads :-) 19.46.48 Join midijunkie [0] (n=Miranda@pD95476E8.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 19.47.38 Join tessarakt [0] (n=jens@e180072078.adsl.alicedsl.de) 19.48.30 # so how would I bock the interrupts? 19.48.35 # domonoky1: going by the datasheet, this shouldnt be needed. But it's worth a try of course 19.48.53 Quit linuxstb (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 19.49.32 Join Thundercloud [0] (n=thunderc@cpc3-hem18-0-0-cust53.lutn.cable.ntl.com) 19.49.41 # domonoky1: it's not the wps (only) which makes the e200v2 wheel unworking, it's the main menu too 19.50.04 # kugel: but we are always changing those timing settings before and after dbop read/write, so maybe the problem is there.. 19.50.22 # anyway, the dbop reads are obviously rigged on the e200v2, seeing that the REC button is problematic too 19.50.54 # kugel: the thing which really makes sense with this situation, is that lcd-update rate varies, and this somehow affects the dbop-reads 19.51.03 # I think the dbop function should be RE'd in the e200v2 OF, I assume it differs from the Fuze's implementation 19.51.20 # how does the lcd update rate vary? 19.51.37 # I'm not having any theme-specific issues btw on my fuze 19.53.03 Quit domonoky (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 19.53.18 # domonoky1: the file is all with "5" and ends with "123456789" 19.54.51 # FlynDice: familiar with disassembly? 19.55.27 Join XavierGr [0] (n=xavier@rockbox/staff/XavierGr) 19.56.07 Quit timc (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 19.56.16 Join timc [0] (n=aoeu@124.93.243.83) 19.56.43 # not particularly.. I did disassemble the of and got lost pretty quickly 19.56.52 # kugel: i am just assuming it might vary, its the only thing i can think of causing this. 19.57.29 # FlynDice: I'll try to have a look at the weekend, no promise though 19.58.41 Join synergist [0] (i=christop@cant.be-arsed.co.uk) 19.58.45 # I just looked at the lcd-fuze and it is much different than lcd-e200v2, is that worth looking at? 19.59.02 # it's not much different 20.00.14 # can you give me an approach at how to find stuff in the dissasembly or is a lot of just looking? 20.02.24 Join pyro_maniac [0] (n=jens@77-21-68-46-dynip.superkabel.de) 20.02.29 # in this particular case you can search for the base address of dbop (see DBOP_BASE in as3525.h), and watch out when 20(0x14) is added to the register where this DBOP_BASE is loaded to 20.02.38 # DBOP_BASE+0x14 is DBOP_DIN 20.03.03 Quit gregzx (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 20.03.07 # the chance that the dbop function is next to that is rather high 20.03.36 # how to search depends on the tool you use for disassembling though 20.03.43 Quit ender` (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 20.16.09 Join miepchen^schlaf [0] (n=miepel@p579EC8AC.dip.t-dialin.net) 20.17.21 Join low_light [0] (i=c730180a@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-f7759c21c2d97268) 20.17.27 Nick fxb__ is now known as fxb (n=felixbru@h1252615.stratoserver.net) 20.18.08 # Qball: hi...care to test something? 20.20.36 # low_light: I test yesterday on the hdd6330, I think that rockbox is running, the touchpad reacr but no light , if it was the original firmware there should be the light on the touchpad, also when you shutdown, it looks like it shutdown a part of the screen first 20.20.55 # low_light: saw my comments on FS#9865 20.20.57 # ? 20.23.00 # toffe82: good. There's a great deal of similarity between the hdd1630 & hdd6330. The lcd controller is different. I have a simple driver if you want to test it. 20.23.29 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 20.23.34 Quit miepchen^schlaf () 20.23.51 # low_light: email me the driver, I will try tonight or sure this week end 20.26.02 # DerPapst: yes. Thanks for testing. The only thing that should be effected on ipods was the pcf50605 which I think reads the battery and clock. 20.26.33 # oh... then i should recheck that. 20.28.31 # toffe82, Qball: http://rafb.net/p/wqcvw949.html. You can use the hdd1630 build and change the LCD_WIDTH/HEIGHT to 220 x 176 in config-hdd1630.h 20.28.42 # ok 20.29.13 # low_light: reading the clock works on 3G 20.29.39 # DerPapst: cool, thanks. 20.29.46 # battery too. 20.30.18 # good... soon we'll have radio on the hdd1630 :) 20.30.38 # same with my 5.5G 20.30.55 Quit Lynx_ (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 20.31.04 Join Lynx_ [0] (n=till@xdsl-84-44-171-77.netcologne.de) 20.31.21 Quit Xerion (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 20.34.19 # toffe82, Qball: obviously that code replaces lcd-hdd1630.c 20.35.15 # :) 20.45.01 Join perrikwp [0] (i=18ac0c41@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-326675a64cff9aae) 20.48.23 Join pH1 [0] (n=ph@ADijon-256-1-71-62.w90-26.abo.wanadoo.fr) 20.50.14 # please, is there a tip for scanning PCBs ? with my scanner, the components which touch the glass are correct but the rest is blurry 20.51.07 # I think you'll have to take photos instead then 20.51.10 # It's hard to scan PCBs. 20.51.16 # Mostly because of raised components. 20.51.48 # Get out a digital camera and take some nice, high-res shots of the board and all major chips, as well as components (hard drive, LCD, touchpad, etc.) 20.53.05 # ok thanks 20.53.51 Join tonyspeaks [0] (n=BOFHIRC@h121.74.91.75.dynamic.ip.windstream.net) 20.54.58 # pH1: What DAP do you have? 20.55.34 # sorry, what's a DAP ? (i'm french) 20.55.52 # digital audio player 20.55.53 # if you mean mp3 device, it's a packard bell vibe 500 20.56.35 # i don't know if it has the same name everywhere 20.56.56 # it must not be very common 20.57.49 # i don't use it, so i thought i could have some fun trying to port rockbox on it 20.58.52 Quit beachsurfin (Remote closed the connection) 21.01.18 # Hi everyone. I am a blind user attempting to install rockbox using the utility version 1.0.9 and getting an error message saying that permission for disk access is denied and required for boot loader installation. I found something about sansapatcher in the logs, but I can't find this in the manual, so I don't know if it will be helpful. 21.03.42 Quit {phoenix} (Remote closed the connection) 21.03.58 # tonyspeaks, what operating system are you running? 21.04.08 # windows vista. 21.04.20 # have tried running as admin 21.05.09 # hmm, if that didn't help then I don't know what to try next, I'm not an rockbox utility expert. 21.05.30 Join MethoS-- [0] (n=lem@dyndsl-085-016-166-051.ewe-ip-backbone.de) 21.05.31 # I have been able to install it before 21.06.41 Join beachsurfin [0] (n=h@unaffiliated/girlmeteor) 21.06.46 # when I tried to upgrade to the lastest version, I got that error. I've tried several things including uninstalling and reinstallation failed from the same error 21.07.50 # did you try the "full installation" or bootloader installation separately from another tab? I remember reading about some bug in the latest Rockbox Utility but don't know much about it either. I need to look it up but it will take a while 21.07.53 # tonyspeaks: rbutil need admin rights for certain bootloader installs. 21.08.50 # and yes, there is a sansapatcher but in the current rbutil release. 21.08.52 # If the rockbox bootloader is still installed on your player, you might be able to get away with just installing the main rockbox files 21.09.31 # hi Domo. I have admin rights and even clicked to run as admin in the context menu. I don't remember trying a separate bootloader installation. Rootloader is not installed right now. I thought some file smight be corrupted, so I just took everything off to start fresh. 21.10.22 # I just tried the separate bootloader install, and it gave the same error. 21.10.28 # tonyspeaks: try the 1.0.8 version of rbutil. 21.10.58 # okay ty. I'll try it. 21.11.17 Join linuxstb [0] (n=linuxstb@rockbox/developer/linuxstb) 21.13.25 # Domo, only version 1.0.8 and 1.0.9 are available on the rbutil page. 21.14.04 # http://download.rockbox.org/rbutil/win32/ 21.14.33 # Thank You 21.15.16 Join akur [0] (n=akur@bl6-156-162.dsl.telepac.pt) 21.17.39 # This application has failed to start because mingwm10.dll was not found. Re-installing the application may fix this problem. 21.17.52 # that was with version 1.0.8 21.18.18 # I just registered on the wiki, would it be possible to have write permissions so i can create a new page for the packard bell vibe 500 ? 21.18.39 # domonoky1, are you OK with me enabling radio on the m200v4? 21.18.45 # bertrik: yes 21.18.45 # pH1: sure, what's your wiki name? 21.18.51 Part akur 21.19.15 # tonyspeaks: ups, bug in every version. I think then you have to install the bootloader manually via sansapatcher 21.19.23 # mcuelenaere: oh no sorry, i'm BenjaminPicardat on the wiki 21.19.32 # domonoky1, basically just #define CONFIG_TUNER TEA5767 in the config file, right? 21.19.58 # * domonoky1 thinks there were 2 defines.. 21.20.14 # pH1: all done 21.20.25 # sansapatcher is discussed in the installation section of the manual then? 21.20.25 # bertrik: #define CONFIG_TUNER TEA5767 21.20.25 # #define CONFIG_TUNER_XTAL 32768 21.20.43 # mcuelenaere: thanks a lot 21.20.45 # tonyspeaks: yes, under "manual install" 21.20.52 # and the INPUT_SRC_CAPS #define probably 21.21.19 Quit MethoS- (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 21.21.40 # jup 21.22.51 # pH1: And welcome to Rockbox. :) 21.24.09 # LambdaCalculus37: Thanks ;) I hope i will be useful 21.26.25 # pH1: Hey, any new ports are plus in our books. ;) 21.29.09 Join miepchen^schlaf [0] (n=miepel@p579EC8AC.dip.t-dialin.net) 21.29.11 # Has anyone seen shotofadds lately? 21.29.20 Join MethoS- [0] (n=lem@dyndsl-085-016-161-152.ewe-ip-backbone.de) 21.31.31 # LambdaCalculus37: you could have asked logbot... "signed off 20 days and 19 hours ago" 21.35.32 # LambdaCalculus37: I mailed shotofadds some days ago and he said RL got him rather occupied 21.36.11 # but he said he was trying to do some Rockbox work 21.36.23 # LambdaCalculus37: if you really need him, you should mail him 21.36.34 # mcuelenaere: Thanks; I wanted to ask if he had made any more progress on the TCC-based Sansa m200. 21.36.48 # the sansapatcher worked. ty. I installed the latest version and will generate voice files. I got hung up on the voice file creation thing a few days ago and could not use my custome voice 21.36.53 # I'll email him later on. 21.36.56 Join Aurix_Lexico [0] (n=comrade@c-68-56-205-239.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) 21.37.11 # Good to hear he's all right, at least. 21.37.24 Quit kachna (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 21.37.45 # tonyspeaks: good to know. 21.38.47 Join kachna [0] (n=kachna@r4ax178.net.upc.cz) 21.39.08 Join orsonj_ [0] (n=orson@b22222.bookstore.usu.edu) 21.39.22 Join bmbl [0] (n=Miranda@unaffiliated/bmbl) 21.39.28 Quit orsonj (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 21.40.18 Quit rocko ("Leaving") 21.41.11 Join gregzx [0] (n=chatzill@dtk68.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) 21.45.32 # Domo, all done. voice files work with no problems. One more quick quick question. was the feature to removed that allowed us to specify how many recent bookmarks to maintain? 21.46.24 Quit MethoS-- (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 21.48.28 Join lymeca [0] (n=lymeca@student164-253.hampshire.edu) 21.50.04 # pH1: I think you forgot to create a new wiki page for the Packard Bell Vibe 500, plus on the main wiki page, the "New Ports" section is usually reserved for targets that already have some code in SVN and are in at least a semi-functional state. 21.50.58 # LambdaCalculus37: i'm actually creating the wiki page 21.51.14 # where should i put the link then ? 21.51.52 # pH1: Make a link to it from the TargetStatus wiki page: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/TargetStatus 21.52.14 # It should be under "Pre-Development Ports". 21.53.00 # ok 21.53.23 # do you remove the link ? 21.55.14 # Thank You for help yall. Well appreciated. 21.55.24 # ttfn 21.55.26 Part tonyspeaks 21.58.05 # pH1: Yes, take the one off of the WebHome page for now. 21.58.22 Quit LambdaCalculus37 ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") 21.58.39 # LambdaCalculus37: I removed it 22.02.49 Quit Zoxc () 22.03.48 Join Xerion [0] (i=xerion@82-170-197-160.ip.telfort.nl) 22.04.18 Quit MethoS- ("Konversation terminated!") 22.04.33 Join MethoS- [0] (n=lem@dyndsl-085-016-161-152.ewe-ip-backbone.de) 22.07.59 Quit mcuelenaere (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 22.08.01 Join mcuelenaere_ [0] (n=mcuelena@rockbox/developer/mcuelenaere) 22.08.18 Quit gregzx ("ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 3.0.6/2009011913]") 22.10.27 Join bluebrother [0] (n=dom@rockbox/developer/bluebrother) 22.11.40 Quit pH1 (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 22.11.59 Quit orsonj_ ("leaving") 22.12.06 Join orsonj [0] (n=orson@b22222.bookstore.usu.edu) 22.13.48 Join MethoS-- [0] (n=lem@host-091-096-209-077.ewe-ip-backbone.de) 22.17.31 Quit MethoS- (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 22.21.23 Nick mcuelenaere_ is now known as mcuelenaere (n=mcuelena@rockbox/developer/mcuelenaere) 22.23.26 # low_light: around? 22.23.31 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 22.24.21 # i see something but it keeps resetting itself, file missing 22.24.24 # what files to copy? 22.25.19 # I see the rockbox logo 22.26.34 # /home/qball/HDD6320/rockbox/rockbox/apps/action.c:26:18: error: lang.h: No such file or directory 22.26.45 Quit miepchen^schlaf () 22.27.06 # Qball: that means Makefile can't find some file 22.27.15 # I know 22.27.17 # :-/ 22.27.25 # latest svn checkout 22.27.46 # did you try a "make clean" first ? 22.28.24 # ok.. buidling 22.28.31 # Qball: I mean the lang.h file doesn't matter, it's just a 'bug' which gives this error when another file is missing 22.28.48 # first thing I bitch about when thing fails at my users is to clean builddir 22.28.51 # now I don't do it myself 22.28.55 # * Qball stands in a corner 22.29.03 # mcuelenaere: I thought that was fixed 22.29.15 # kugel: I thought that too 22.29.21 # perhaps I'm just wrong 22.29.27 # anyway I see the bootloadr on my hdd620 22.29.37 # with display? 22.29.42 # y 22.29.48 # I said see 22.29.50 # great thing 22.29.54 # hehe 22.30.01 # now build a normal build 22.30.15 # select 'n' (or nothing, normal is default) in configure 22.30.18 # done that 22.30.28 # what files to copy? rockbox.mi4? 22.30.32 # Qball: the bootloader build works? 22.30.33 # then make && make zip, and extract to your hdd6330 22.30.34 # do I need to sign them? 22.30.44 # no, not the normal build 22.30.49 # low_light: look that way 22.31.05 # displays the logo? 22.31.09 # yes 22.31.24 # Qball: make zip gets you a rockbox.zip, which you extract onto your device 22.31.38 # make a photo if possible :) 22.31.40 # kugel: you jusst said that 22.31.55 # I should change my nick again 22.31.57 Nick Qball is now known as MacGrumpy (n=qball@unaffiliated/qball) 22.32.02 Join petur [50] (n=petur@rockbox/developer/petur) 22.32.12 # in bootloader/common.h you can remove the PHILIPS_HDD1630 from verbose=false 22.32.34 # Qball: ^ then you'll see what's going on 22.33.17 # stupid reflective 22.34.45 # keyss don't work 22.34.52 # and stupid camera won't autofocus 22.35.02 # haha 22.35.16 # glass 22.36.14 Quit lymeca (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 22.36.23 # this packard bell player looks like the hdd6330 and it have a mi4 file 22.37.40 # toffe82: hdd6330 has 64MB? 22.37.43 Join framo [0] (n=gnicki@ip-87-82-152-129.easynet.co.uk) 22.37.58 # http://download.sarine.nl/hdd6320.JPG 22.38.01 # terrible picture 22.38.06 # low_light: I don't know I have to check 22.38.19 # hmm keys do work 22.38.22 # just lights not 22.38.49 # MacGrumpy: all the keys? 22.39.09 # lights don't work on the hdd1630 yet either 22.39.14 # low_light: the block diagram shows 64Mb sdram and 4Mb flash 22.39.22 Quit Horscht ("Verlassend") 22.39.48 # low_light: no idea 22.39.52 # it is a bit fuzzy 22.40.01 # they don't light up, so hard to see 22.40.05 # and alot of keys make noise 22.40.07 # but do nothing 22.40.10 Join Quintasan [0] (n=quintasa@dynamic-78-8-152-10.ssp.dialog.net.pl) 22.40.25 # hi, on what license is rbutil developed? 22.40.37 Quit gevaerts (Nick collision from services.) 22.40.46 Join gevaerts [0] (n=fg@rockbox/developer/gevaerts) 22.40.48 # toffe82: well, the hdd1630 diagram says 64MB too, but when I tried a 64MB build, it didn't work. 22.40.49 # Quintasan: GPL 22.41.05 # low_light: how can we know 22.41.09 # MacGrumpy: nice ;) 22.41.17 # with the chip reference 22.41.49 # it _seems_ to play 22.41.54 # lets grab headphone 22.42.01 # I think this one does 250O 22.42.10 # Bagder: and who I should put as an author? Rockbox Community? I'm making a ubuntu package and I'd like to know :) 22.42.36 # yeah!!!!!!!!!!!! music 22.42.53 # Quintasan: good question, I guess "Rockbox Community" or possibly a set of the largest contributors... 22.43.03 # Doesn't the rbutil have a lsit of contributors somewhere? 22.43.12 # MacGrumpy: cool! 22.43.25 # * gevaerts expects an email now! 22.43.42 # how that has to count as one of the least resistance ports ever ;-) 22.43.44 # MacGrumpy: very cool! 22.44.06 # not to diminish low_light's work 22.44.26 # MacGrumpy: you didn't seem to expect your gogear to play music from rockbox the next day when I was at #mpd yesterday :) 22.44.33 # low_light: very cool! 22.44.48 # Bagder: of course not 22.44.48 # MacGrumpy: so which keys work. Up/select/down on the center strip and right/left 22.44.58 # MacGrumpy: have a look at http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/GentlemenMails 22.45.13 # the center strip does nothing 22.45.22 # the _I think_ menu does something the play prev/next work 22.45.24 # volume works 22.45.27 # hold works 22.45.36 Join dabujo [0] (n=xx@mnhm-590fa21d.pool.einsundeins.de) 22.45.52 # left works, right not 22.46.10 # we need an easy way to load rockbox on the hdd1630 and hdd6330 22.46.27 # MacGrumpy: the center strip gets divided into 3 sections Up/Select/Down. You can't slide. 22.46.31 # gogearpatcher? 22.46.34 # Galois: hmm should I post a link there? 22.46.36 # low_light: it does nothing 22.47.13 # eeuh gevaerts can I edit that page? should I mail one of you dudes 22.47.42 # I am stuck in pitch control 22.48.06 # You should send a mail to one of the mailing lists, using the mails linked from that page as examples. You can't break tradition! 22.48.51 # what is the ML adress? 22.49.08 # MacGrumpy: ok...the touchpad might be tricky to figure out remotely ;) 22.49.15 # low_light: tell me how.. 22.49.41 # Should Gentlemen mails go to rockbox or rockbox-dev? 22.49.50 # toffe82: installation is the same as the the H10. So presumable rbutil can handle it. 22.50.09 # ok 22.50.26 # Also, are the lists subscriber-only, or can anyone post? 22.50.36 # * gevaerts isn't really sure about these things 22.51.11 # subscriber-only 22.51.13 # MacGrumpy: you have a hdd6320 (no radio)? 22.51.20 # yes 22.51.25 # europe model 22.52.22 # so where to e-mail? 22.52.26 # MacGrumpy: http://cool.haxx.se/mailman/listinfo/rockbox has the details 22.52.44 # ugh my firefox is crashing 22.52.58 # low_light: I have the 6330 with radio if I remember 22.53.03 # hmmm usb cable attach seem to give issues 22.53.57 Quit faemir ("leaving") 22.54.05 # is flac there by default? 22.54.14 Join faemir [0] (n=daniel@88-106-160-228.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) 22.54.30 # MacGrumpy: yes 22.55.29 # cool works 22.55.41 # MacGrumpy: it should reboot 22.55.51 # low_light: it does 22.56.06 # low_light: how far is the sa9200 port? 22.56.07 # flac plays 22.56.09 # sounds good 22.57.37 # * MacGrumpy is kind off amazed he can hear the difference between mp3/flac 22.58.18 Quit tessarakt (Excess Flood) 22.58.39 Join tessarakt [0] (n=jens@e180072078.adsl.alicedsl.de) 22.58.45 # ./seered.pl 22.58.48 # Maurus Cuelenaere/mcuelenaere=1 22.58.59 # * Bagder likes getting a chance to test his blame-script... 22.59.21 # now I only need to find a good use for it! 23.00.25 # low_light: hmmm 95dB snr 23.00.43 # * MacGrumpy wonders about thd 23.01.14 # Bagder: implement it into logbot 23.01.32 # hmm -74dB worse case 23.01.33 # that sucks 23.02.14 # low_light: anything I can do to figure buttons out 23.02.21 # MacGrumpy: You might have 64MB RAM. In tools/configure try changing memory to 64 in the hdd1630 section and then load a large flac (>32MB) 23.02.23 # mcuelenaere: yeah, I was thinking that too but the amount of work has made me hesitate 23.02.44 # low_light: the control is a bit hinky 23.02.50 # is there xomething like xev 23.02.51 # ? 23.03.06 Join AndyIL [0] (i=AndyI@212.14.205.32) 23.03.59 # MacGrumpy: for now, you can remap the volume up/down to button_up/button_down 23.04.13 # I have up/down 23.04.31 # prev/next seems to be mapped to that 23.04.32 # what keys are they? 23.04.58 # how you mean? 23.05.04 # the next key seems to be up 23.05.10 # previous down 23.05.31 # http://www.diskidee.nl/uploads/magazine/images/article/g/gogear_hdd6320.jpg 23.05.40 # the play key seems to work to 23.05.43 # the prev and menu 23.05.51 # eeuh arrow left Imean 23.05.56 # the slider and right does nothing 23.06.13 # reminds me a bit of the m:robe100 23.07.24 Join pixelma_ [0] (n=pixelma@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 23.07.24 Quit pixelma (Nick collision from services.) 23.07.35 Nick pixelma_ is now known as pixelma (n=pixelma@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 23.07.43 Quit amiconn (Nick collision from services.) 23.07.44 Join amiconn_ [50] (n=jens@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 23.07.51 # MacGrumpy: odd...I'll have to think about it 23.08.00 Nick amiconn_ is now known as amiconn (n=jens@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 23.08.17 # the button layout I mean (maybe it's also bcause of a backlit tochpad) ehttp://download.rockbox.org/manual/rockbox-mrobe100/rockbox-buildch3.html#x5-230003 23.08.48 # remove leading e... 23.09.41 # that doesn't make it clickable! 23.09.57 # how important ... 23.10.04 # :) 23.10.07 # how do I re-create database? 23.10.23 Join FOAD_ [0] (n=dok@dinah.blub.net) 23.10.26 # use the "initialize database" entry in the menu 23.11.15 Quit casainho ("ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 3.0.5/2008121622]") 23.11.27 # where? 23.11.48 Join Zoxc [0] (i=Zoxc@ti0128a340-dhcp0017.bb.online.no) 23.11.48 # got it 23.12.31 # I hope my mail is send 23.12.37 # thunderbird is complaining 23.12.41 # (mailbox moved) 23.14.43 Quit AndyI (Connection timed out) 23.15.16 Part domonoky1 23.18.58 # MacGrumpy: do you have a real name so I can add you to the credits 23.19.12 # I'll try to commit an hdd6330 build this weekend 23.19.32 # hmmm real name 23.19.38 Quit Zoxc () 23.19.38 # Martijn Koedam 23.20.07 # man rockbox loads faster then default stuff 23.21.28 # Did you try to see if a 64MB build works? 23.21.45 Join qurvel [0] (n=qurvel@i58-93-37-220.s02.a013.ap.plala.or.jp) 23.21.47 # how do I do that? 23.22.24 # would the buffer size be displayed correctly in the info screen? 23.22.28 # about 20 min ago ;) 23.22.40 # hmm flac plays realy realy nicely.. 23.23.32 # building 23.23.50 Quit n1s () 23.24.40 Join gregzx [0] (n=chatzill@dtk68.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) 23.25.07 Quit tessarakt ("Client exiting") 23.27.04 # low_light: I am getting codec failures now 23.28.12 # Ok, I guess it doesn't work. Strange that the block diagram specifies 64MB 23.28.22 # gotta go now 23.28.26 Quit low_light ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") 23.29.23 Part qurvel 23.29.33 # MacGrumpy: Congratulations! 23.29.48 Quit evilnick_7 ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") 23.30.26 # * MacGrumpy is so happy to finally have an mp3 player that does flac 23.32.30 # how does cover art work? I have images in same dir? 23.33.21 Part pyro_maniac 23.33.23 # http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/AlbumArt 23.33.25 Quit petur ("*plop*") 23.37.02 Quit bmbl ("Woah!") 23.37.09 # hmmm I should see about these buttons. 23.37.18 # can't exit applications :D 23.43.28 Join miepchen^schlaf [0] (n=miepel@p579EC8AC.dip.t-dialin.net) 23.43.38 # That'll get annoying fast 23.43.54 # MacGrumpy: actually, the "Ladies and Gentlemen, we have sound" phrase is the most important part of these emails ./ 23.43.56 # :/ 23.45.33 # The wiki page should be more explicit about this 23.46.43 # sorry 23.46.51 Join rocko [0] (n=rocko@c-67-167-117-152.hsd1.il.comcast.net) 23.46.54 # * MacGrumpy is happy to finally stop having to convert his flacs 23.47.14 # is there a key-press program.. where I can see what key maps to what 23.47.59 # no, we usually have the source, and the manual (once someone cared enough about making a manual for a port) 23.48.21 # but apps/keymaps/ should give you a clue 23.48.52 Quit kugel ("ChatZilla 0.9.84-rdmsoft [XULRunner 1.9.0.5/2008121622]") 23.49.37 # ha ha ha metronome gives a divide by 0 error 23.51.34 # aah nice audio out on dock works 23.52.42 Join Horscht [0] (n=Horscht@xbmc/user/horscht) 23.52.54 # now where is remote 23.58.03 Join MethoS- [0] (n=lem@dyndsl-085-016-167-175.ewe-ip-backbone.de)