--- Log for 26.03.109 Server: lindbohm.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 8 days and 16 hours ago 00.00.02 # Llorean: I'm sorry, I had just found the post that says that it's off topic, so I didn't know it was until I saw you yelling at me. Again, I'm sorry, and will use PMs. 00.00.18 Quit parafin (Nick collision from services.) 00.00.21 Join parafin|away [0] (i=parafin@paraf.in) 00.00.35 Nick parafin|away is now known as parafin (i=parafin@paraf.in) 00.00.38 # hi is there a version of rockbox for ipod shuffel sorry my english is very bad so i have problems for searching this information on the rockbox page 00.00.51 # Nope 00.00.58 # mackotz: it is mention on the front page 00.01.01 # mentioned 00.01.04 # At least none that I know of. 00.01.14 # ok thx 00.01.53 Join CaptainKewl [0] (i=jds@207-237-172-77.c3-0.nyr-ubr4.nyr.ny.cable.rcn.com) 00.02.28 Quit TBOL3 ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") 00.02.51 Quit mackotz ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") 00.04.41 # Llorean: Should we advertise for a fancy "download installer" button in the wps forum? 00.05.31 # comeplete with browser toolbars! 00.05.53 # browser toolbars=no in my opinion <_< 00.06.43 Quit Zagor ("Clint excited") 00.06.53 # I noticed a trend that whenever a program attempts to sneak a toolbar into your browser, change your homepage and vomits shortcuts to everything everywhere people get annoyed... 00.07.22 # * JdGordon| was joking 00.07.39 Quit domonoky (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 00.09.10 # rasher: Sure! 00.10.08 Quit gevaerts (Nick collision from services.) 00.10.17 Join gevaerts [0] (n=fg@rockbox/developer/gevaerts) 00.10.51 # ok - CabieV2 is working :-) -- I had to use checkwps for verify that I were missing the "#define HAVE_ALBUMART" on config file :-) 00.11.16 # domonoky did help me going to make checkwps working :-) 00.11.16 # casainho: I thought you said you had added that. 00.11.36 # rasher: I did, but as "#define HAVE_ALBUM_ART" 00.12.31 # rasher: you wrote like that and I didn't know. Even I diddn't know that I had to reconfigure.... 00.12.54 # casainho: Ah, oh well. 00.13.18 Quit petur (Remote closed the connection) 00.13.25 # rasher: then I will do the promotional video right now!! many thanks :-) 00.13.30 # good night :-) 00.13.35 Quit casainho ("ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 3.0.7/2009030422]") 00.16.03 # Llorean: http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=21100.0 00.17.42 Quit lymeca (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 00.17.56 Join lymeca [0] (n=lymeca@213-213-141-71.xdsl.is) 00.18.35 # rasher: Looks good. 00.19.03 Join __lifeless [0] (n=lifeless@94.50.161.22) 00.20.05 Quit _lifeless (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00.20.08 Join midgey [0] (n=tjross@71.238.148.140) 00.23.02 Quit n1s ("Lmnar") 00.25.44 Quit ender` (" Anyone who thinks people lack originality should watch them folding roadmaps.") 00.28.35 Quit JdGordon| ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") 00.29.38 Quit ibseco (No route to host) 00.33.11 Quit ZincAlloy ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 00.34.56 Join Thundercloud [0] (i=thunderc@persistence.flat.devzero.co.uk) 00.35.02 Join pixelma_ [50] (n=pixelma@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 00.35.02 Quit pixelma (Nick collision from services.) 00.35.05 Quit amiconn (Nick collision from services.) 00.35.06 Join amiconn_ [50] (n=jens@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 00.35.15 Nick pixelma_ is now known as pixelma (n=pixelma@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 00.35.24 Nick amiconn_ is now known as amiconn (n=jens@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 00.36.23 Join ultrasonic [0] (n=manohar@203.199.213.3) 00.36.23 Quit Rondom (Remote closed the connection) 00.46.42 Nick JdGordon__ is now known as JdGordon (n=jonno@c-98-203-252-78.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) 00.50.18 Part taylor_ ("Leaving") 00.50.59 Join PaulJam_ [0] (i=Paule@vpn-3003.gwdg.de) 00.51.44 Join Hillshum [0] (n=chatzill@unaffiliated/hillshum) 00.54.04 # Is http or ftp faster on installing Cygwin? 00.55.25 Quit shotofadds ("Leaving") 00.57.04 Quit PaulJam (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 00.57.49 Quit Thundercloud (Remote closed the connection) 00.59.41 Join BHSPitMonkey [0] (n=stephen@unaffiliated/bhspitmonkey) 01.01.37 Quit cspotcode (Remote closed the connection) 01.01.53 Join cspotcode [0] (n=bradla@machamp-61.dynamic.rpi.edu) 01.04.57 # Are the radio: thingies keywords? http://rockbox.pastebin.com/f595b1bc2 01.09.53 Join kushalone1 [0] (n=deanstud@69.150.163.1) 01.12.39 # Hillshum: there is a file, apps/features.txt which is where those keywords come from... radio means that that if the target has the radio it will have that text 01.14.06 Quit timc (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 01.18.17 Quit _Auron_ ("Infinity repeatedly denies rumours of plotting with zero to bring down the Universe.") 01.19.06 Join cmwslw [0] (i=4aeb4065@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-2da287e873395919) 01.19.44 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 01.20.11 # I don't know if you guys already know, but the datasheet for the iPod's processor has been found 01.20.22 # legally? 01.20.51 # it was actually found from a link on the Rockbox wiki 01.21.20 # see the top part of this article: http://nxtpp.clustur.com/index.php/Hardware 01.21.43 Join taylor_ [0] (n=taylor@c-24-91-82-205.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) 01.22.06 Join EternalRains [0] (n=Abztrkhi@c-76-106-220-241.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) 01.22.27 # Did the manufacturer release it? 01.25.04 Quit flydutch ("/* empty */") 01.26.15 # I don't know 01.26.47 # Well Samsung obviously made it 01.26.59 # but they probably did not intend it to be leaked 01.27.20 # cmwslw: where did you find this again, btw? 01.27.48 # http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/SamsungSA58#SA58700_codename_Blues 01.27.55 # it's under the wrong chip, though 01.28.04 Quit Conic () 01.28.08 # I see..... 01.28.25 Join timc [0] (n=aoeu@124.93.243.83) 01.29.38 # MarcGuay posted it apparently 01.30.30 # Is he still active? 01.30.35 # When did he post it? 01.31.11 # He's still around 01.31.41 # Hi guys, what is the upward limit on SDHC card will work in a sansa c2xx mp3 player? thank you. Oh, and a friend wanted to know how he can distinguish between a v1 and v2 when buying online. any sugestions? 01.31.42 # 31 Jul 2008 01.31.54 # * with rockbox 01.31.57 # Wow...that was a while ago ;) 01.32.06 Quit Hillshum ("ChatZilla 0.9.83 [Firefox 3.0.3/2008092417]") 01.32.59 # Well, bye I guess :P 01.33.05 # haha 01.33.19 # We really need to get a hold of MarcGuay 01.34.11 # why tho? All he really did was post that.. 01.34.27 # We need to know where he found it 01.34.35 Quit Seed (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 01.35.08 # true 01.38.28 Join PaulJam [0] (n=PaulJam_@vpn-3009.gwdg.de) 01.42.55 Quit PaulJam_ (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 01.44.54 # Actually, Marcoen Hirschberg added the link to the datasheet 01.45.29 Join fdinel [0] (n=Miranda@modemcable204.232-203-24.mc.videotron.ca) 01.46.30 Join JdGordon_ [0] (n=jonno@c-98-203-252-78.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) 01.47.42 Quit mcuelenaere () 01.48.23 Quit MT (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 01.49.10 Quit __lifeless (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 01.50.51 Join JdGordon__ [0] (n=jonno@c-98-203-252-78.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) 01.55.54 Quit daurnimator (Remote closed the connection) 01.57.31 Join _Auron_ [0] (n=DarkAuro@ppp-70-249-146-14.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net) 02.00.24 Quit JdGordon (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 02.01.01 Join JdGordon|zzz [0] (n=jonno@rockbox/developer/JdGordon) 02.01.46 Quit perrikwp ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") 02.02.47 # kushalone1: theoretically, anything SDHC supports...and you cant really distinguish when buying online 02.03.06 Quit JdGordon_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 02.04.03 Quit Lss (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 02.05.37 Join Dauron [0] (n=DarkAuro@ppp-70-245-129-190.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net) 02.06.04 Join perrikwp [0] (i=4aa794a0@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-299d5bb7fa173bf9) 02.06.24 Quit _Auron_ (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 02.06.26 Quit rvvs89 (Connection reset by peer) 02.12.47 Quit JdGordon__ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 02.13.56 Join _Auron_ [0] (n=DarkAuro@ppp-70-245-129-190.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net) 02.17.20 Quit JdGordon|zzz (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 02.18.39 Quit perrikwp ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") 02.22.41 Join wangxiang [0] (n=wangxian@203.86.76.219) 02.22.47 Quit Nico_P (Remote closed the connection) 02.23.41 Join Seed [0] (n=ben@bzq-84-108-232-45.cablep.bezeqint.net) 02.24.19 Quit Dauron (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 02.25.56 Part WastePo1ato 02.29.15 Join evilnick [0] (i=620ec27e@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-33ef57828c793d36) 02.31.43 Quit BHSPitMonkey (Remote closed the connection) 02.32.29 Join perrikwp [0] (i=4aa794a0@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-79d2ce42d1f29c3c) 02.34.05 Join _lifeless [0] (n=lifeless@94.50.166.178) 02.36.31 Quit MethoS (Remote closed the connection) 02.42.59 Quit perrikwp ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") 02.45.13 Join perrikwp [0] (i=4aa794a0@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-dbbdd9d1656f2375) 02.48.04 Join Strife89 [0] (n=nds@204.116.244.200) 02.52.41 Quit perrikwp ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") 02.56.12 Join ebswift [0] (i=ebswift@138.77.43.128) 02.56.56 # Alright, good night everyone 02.57.02 # quick question... is there a rockbox utility for using a device as an auxilary display on a PC? 02.57.10 # no 02.57.18 # not sure 02.57.23 # oh, no I guess 02.57.47 # well anyone aware of any other hacks... like the old mini picture frame hack? 02.57.49 Join PaulJam_ [0] (n=PaulJam_@vpn-3005.gwdg.de) 02.58.06 # All known tricks are actually shipped with Rockbox. 02.58.32 # k, thankyou 03.00.19 Quit taylor_ ("Leaving") 03.01.25 Part EternalRains 03.04.20 Quit ebswift ("Leaving") 03.08.12 Join goffa_ [0] (n=goffa@216.220.23.105) 03.08.55 Quit cmwslw ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") 03.10.22 Quit evilnick ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") 03.14.16 Quit PaulJam (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 03.19.48 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 03.20.49 Quit goffa (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 03.32.16 Join rvvs89 [0] (n=ivo@robotnik.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au) 03.35.03 Quit Strife89 ("ClIRC - IRC client for Nintendo DS") 03.49.10 Part kushalone1 03.53.41 Quit ultrasonic (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 04.02.02 Join leprasmurf [0] (n=leprasmu@adsl-243-4-211.dab.bellsouth.net) 04.03.54 Join rwcr [0] (n=oremanj@xenon.get-linux.org) 04.06.21 # Hello all, I'm interested in GSOC and am an avid user of rockbox. I was wondering, is coding for an mp3 player different from coding for x86? 04.07.17 # Also, I have a sansa e260, would that be an appropriate testbed for a project that would likely be acceptable to rockbox, or is there a virtual platform for multi-device testing? 04.09.50 # leprasmurf: our targets do not generally have hardware floating point, simd instructions, and many lack hardware division, so you must be a bit careful about how you do math on them. also, whatever OS/library functions you're accustomed to on x86, ours are going to be at least a bit different. 04.10.43 # Unhelpful: can I safely assume documentation on the libraries is readily available? 04.11.58 Quit swathanthran (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 04.12.04 # ...to a certain degree. we also don't actually *have* loadable libraries on rockbox. the core is essentially a monolithic binary. plugins and codecs are loaded at fixed addresses, and given a pointer to a structure that contains pointers to certain core functions. 04.12.25 # wow, ok 04.14.59 # I imagine that's a principal reason for different source downloads per hardware? 04.15.11 # that and the available controls per device 04.15.29 # There's only one source download that covers all hardware. 04.15.36 # There's different binary downloads per hardware. 04.15.47 # oh, my bad 04.16.45 # As to "testbed", it kinda depends on what you're interested in working on. 04.17.19 # Rockbox is more or less divided into two parts, "apps" and "firmware". Apps stuff can readily (mostly) be tested on the Simulators. Firmware stuff requires the appropriate hardware to get right. *Most* GSOC stuff isn't likely to be firmware-level though 04.18.14 # if plugins and codecs are loaded at fixed addresses, how is the address chosen? Would different devices have different amounts of memory available? 04.18.34 # yes and no. 04.18.49 Join bs66_1 [0] (n=sysuser@79.138.155.173.bredband.tre.se) 04.18.50 # All "modern" devices are given the same amount of memory for each. Only the old hardware-codec Archos devices aren't. 04.18.53 # I imagine there's a core amount available 04.19.00 # oic 04.19.03 Quit bs66_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 04.19.43 # Though it's possible that some newer targets with very limited resource will have smaller plugin buffers, among supported targets at this time they're all the same. 512KB (if I recall correctly) if music is playing, but if music is allowed to be stopped they can also grab the compressed audio buffer (which varies based on physical RAM) 04.21.40 # so the 512KB, that's not shared with any of the core, right? That's dedicated eeprom space, right? 04.21.59 # that's *ram*. 04.22.22 # It's dedicated RAM for storing the currently loaded plugin and its data. 04.22.28 # sorry, I think firmware I think rom, but rom is read only, so I think eeprom 04.22.47 # the plugin's code is loaded into the plugin buffer, it may use the rest of it for data if it chooses 04.23.23 # leprasmurf: In most cases Rockbox is actually loaded from disk into RAM by some code in ROM that's either what would load the original firmware from disk, or is something we've put there (in a few cases) 04.23.48 # In the majority of cases, Rockbox itself is never in ROM of any sort, though on a few players we support loading (and executing) it from there to save a bit of RAM and speed up boot time. 04.23.58 # As far as I know, though, plugins are never in the ROM 04.24.17 # duh! that's why rockbox and the original sansa firmware can coexist, because of the bootloader 04.24.50 # duh to me, not you guys 04.26.33 # this may be a stupid question, but what about swap? I can't imagine most of any plugins would go past the 512k limit, but just curious 04.28.28 # There's no existing mechanism for it. 04.28.35 # What sort of project did you have in mind, anyway? 04.29.22 # well, I don't know entirely. I've been going over the ideas list and am trying to isolate which ones I'd be capable of completing 04.29.48 # if you really want to manage data larger than fits in the plugin buffer, the first thing to do is stop playback and grab the audio buffer. if that's not sufficient, you should probably be thinking about whether this is something you can run on rockbox at all, but you *could* always manage a pagefile yourself. 04.30.14 # I liked the look of the usb connectors, things like the (basically) tethering the DAP to the computer (USB soundcard or USB radio tuner) 04.30.20 # leprasmurf: The idea list isn't strict, either. If you have something you feel you're more capable of completing, while at the same time would offer a very real benefit to Rockbox (and be of appropriate scale for a GSoC project) you're welcome to propose an application for a new idea. 04.30.22 # but I was also thinking of the document viewer 04.31.22 # Llorean: yeah, there are a few things that's irked me about my release of rockbox (though I don't know the number I have right now) 04.32.25 # such as being able to save a playlist, and a bookmark within that playlist, and interchange playlists 04.32.57 # i.e. listening to an audio book while driving, but when reaching my destination, saving my spot on that playlist and loading music so I can code 04.33.17 # It's possible to do that. With "Bookmark on stop" it's even pretty painless. 04.34.06 # I didn't realize 04.35.06 # hey, I'm happy I finally discovered the joy of "Car Adapter Mode" 04.38.45 Join sktrdie [0] (n=sktrdie@adsl-99-140-219-137.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net) 04.39.30 Quit fdinel ("Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org") 04.39.57 # I know this may sound a bit stupid, but I was looking at the Rockbox project and was wondering how you guys actually went through creating a firmware without having the hardware specs? Does it involve a lot of tedious reverse engeneering? 04.40.48 # sktrdie: It varies from player to player. In some cases we have docs. In others there's a lot of tedious reverse engineering. In others someone else has done it in another open source project, and we can share the fruits of it. 04.42.02 Join saratoga_home [0] (n=41becb3b@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-907ce8f8af0a3603) 04.42.04 Quit wangxiang ("Leaving") 04.42.10 # Llorean: I see, I know C, but not enough of Assembly, although I guess my question is to what you think would be a good place to start to mess around with my mp3 player. 04.42.52 # work on whatever is interesting to you 04.42.58 # i don't think anyone can tell you that 04.44.51 # saratoga_home: Yeah, but I basically have zero information on the Hardware of this thing, and have googled a bunch already, so my bet I guess could be to start reading how Rockbox works with other mp3 players. 04.45.39 # if you don't know about the hardware, maybe thats not a good place to start 04.48.15 Join PaulJam [0] (i=Paule@vpn-3003.gwdg.de) 04.51.33 Join JdGordon [0] (n=jonno@c-98-203-252-78.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) 04.52.07 Quit PaulJam_ (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 04.52.31 # Can C++ execute within rockbox? 04.53.12 # leprasmurf: Short answer - not practically. 04.53.53 Join JdGordon_ [0] (n=jonno@c-98-203-252-78.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) 04.54.07 # so trying to implement espeak wouldn't really be practical then, unless it could be converted to C only, right? 04.55.33 # http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/7660 is actually a port of espeak to Rockbox, though it's from after they switched to GPLv3 which would necessitate a license change of Rockbox 04.58.14 Join JdGordon__ [0] (n=jonno@c-98-203-252-78.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) 04.59.21 # I'm trying to find it on the site, so as not to ask LTFG questions, but what is the license of rockbox? 05.01.33 # ah, GNU GPL 05.02.40 Join JdGordon|zzz [0] (n=jonno@rockbox/developer/JdGordon) 05.06.03 # "GPLv2 or later" 05.06.26 # Which means we prefer to only include code from projects that are also "2 or later" to preserve the freedom that brings for other people to incorporate our code. 05.06.39 # *sigh* licensing gives me a headach :-) 05.06.43 Nick JdGordon|zzz is now known as JdGordon| (n=jonno@rockbox/developer/JdGordon) 05.07.31 # so according to comments in that tracker, if someone were to want to implement espeak, they would have to use a previously released version which is "GPLv2 or later" 05.08.02 # If they wanted their work incorporated into the official build, yes. Which should be the goal with any GSOC work 05.09.11 Quit JdGordon (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 05.10.30 Quit JdGordon_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 05.10.41 Quit miepchen^schlaf (Read error: 101 (Network is unreachable)) 05.12.14 # I see Richard Stallman doesn't seem to think it's a problem 05.12.49 # (the fact that gpl2 and gpl3 are incompatible) 05.13.54 # License philosophy isn't really a topic for in here. 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Only the old hardware-codec Archos devices aren't. <== Not true. The archoses all have the same amount of RAM (2MB), just they can be modded to have 8MB. This is even less variable than the ipod Video, which can have either 32MB or 64MB out of the box... 08.13.14 # amiconn: The 8mb Archoses still have the same amount of plugin buffer as the 2mb though, right? 08.13.24 # "each" refers to plugin and codec buffers. 08.14.12 # Yes, the same way as the 32MB and 64MB ipods have the same amount. Neither have it at the same address 08.15.04 # Ah, you mean the amount of plugin RAM. That's not true either. 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I'm foolowing te great Simple Guide to compiling in the Compiling section. I have added the /usr/local/arm-elf/bin path, but the /tool/confidurer complains that I have to add path for the compiler arm-elf-gcc. 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Root terminal? 13.49.06 Quit joejc (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 13.56.25 Join Dillizar [0] (n=asdas@77.28.44.123) 13.56.42 Nick fxb__ is now known as fxb (n=felixbru@h1252615.stratoserver.net) 13.56.44 # how is the progress doing for gogear mp3 players 13.56.53 Join CaptainKewl [0] (i=jds@207-237-172-77.c3-0.nyr-ubr4.nyr.ny.cable.rcn.com) 13.59.30 Join moos [0] (i=Mustapha@rockbox/staff/moos) 14.02.29 Quit Strife89 ("Going to class.") 14.03.47 # Dillizar: Please don't ask for progress updates. 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rocking! 14.21.52 # funman: wohoo! 14.22.25 Join pyro_maniac1 [0] (i=foobar@p57BB9AD7.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 14.22.53 # I could quickly see a nice "ATA error: -1" however 14.23.37 # the primecell documentation for SD controllers has disappeared from arm.com 14.23.48 # pl180 had been marked as "out of date" for some time though 14.24.18 # maybe someone here have them somewhere else? 14.24.57 # I still have a copy of pl180 doc, but it's not the controller used in Clipv2, I was hoping to see that pl182 registers match, for example 14.24.59 Quit Dillizar (Connection timed out) 14.29.41 Part sktrdie 14.30.29 # B4gder: how much time did AMS take to answer you when you requested the AS3525 datasheet ? 14.32.16 # hours 14.32.34 # but then I had already been in touch with them several times before 14.32.55 # did you have email conversations, or only used their web interface ? 14.33.01 # email 14.33.20 # * LambdaCalculus37 remembers back when B4gder was requesting datasheets for the AS3514 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just that every video i give the device, it cant play 16.04.26 # scott_: what kind of zen have you got? 16.04.32 # its the Zen 4gb 16.04.46 # scott_: zen micro? 16.04.51 # even the podcasts i tried to get to work with it, have to convert to some format first 16.04.54 # no 16.05.21 # does their player use a proprietary codec only? 16.05.48 # i was hoping for 3rd party firmware to allow for playing a wider range of compression methods 16.09.17 Join tarbo [0] (n=me@unaffiliated/tarbo) 16.09.37 # scott_: what is your nation? 16.09.40 # pyro_maniac: good news 16.10.01 # kugel: speak it out! 16.10.53 # I used the 20gb build, and it works 16.10.59 # display is almost fine 16.11.15 # grdxyxy: US 16.11.17 # you re kidding 16.11.48 # grdxyxy: does it matter? 16.12.05 # scott_: no, i just wonder that. 16.12.10 # kugel: display works or something else to? 16.12.21 Part Bensawsome ("The awsome is gone :(") 16.12.35 # usb works too, but it directly goes to usb after boot 16.12.44 # grdxyxy: please keep on topic 16.12.53 Join killan_ [0] (n=nnscript@c-5ef170d5.06-397-67626721.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) 16.12.53 Join Rob2223 [0] (n=Miranda@p4FDCD5D8.dip.t-dialin.net) 16.12.53 Join cspotcode [0] (n=bradla@machamp-61.dynamic.rpi.edu) 16.12.53 Join davidfg4 [0] (n=david@69.51.95.200) 16.12.53 Join n17ikh [0] (n=n17ikh@130.127.74.89) 16.12.53 Join shadearg [0] (i=arg@ipv4.panoptix.net) 16.12.54 # you have to disconnect 16.12.58 Nick Tuplanol1a is now known as Tuplanolla (n=jani@77.109.223.193) 16.13.16 # then the real firmware is getting startet 16.13.51 # gevaerts:keep on what topic? 16.14.45 # pyro_maniac: huh? 16.14.54 # I mean rockbox goes to usb 16.15.06 # grdxyxy: http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/IrcGuidelines 16.15.45 # kugel: ah ok rockbox is running and changes to usb mode? 16.16.00 # kugel: always? 16.16.15 # kugel: i mean, even if you disconnect the cable? 16.19.00 # pyro_maniac: sorry,i see 16.21.27 # pyro_maniac: yea 16.22.00 Quit wangxiang__ (Success) 16.22.43 # kugel: ok but that sounds lovely to me 16.23.21 # so we have to take it into the list i think :-D 16.24.04 # i am wounder if this could work on my device too!? 16.25.42 # did you have the 925 too? 16.26.08 # no i have a 920 16.26.16 # to make the bl accept the firmware, you need to change configure 16.26.30 # the h10_20gb I mean 16.26.38 # my hope was, that only the lcd is different 16.26.48 # what did you change? 16.27.48 # scramble must output mi4v2, instead of v3 16.28.30 # ok 16.28.35 # sounds easy 16.30.44 # is that the only change? 16.31.00 # pretty much yes 16.31.12 # the display is at least working, but flipped and with a decent offset 16.31.28 # but sharp 16.31.50 # can you dissable USB and test more? 16.32.22 # hm, I want the display nicely first 16.32.26 # then buttons 16.32.39 # but that may need usb disabled, indeed. 16.34.42 # i am excited 16.37.45 # * kugel too 16.40.17 Join bmbl [0] (n=Miranda@unaffiliated/bmbl) 16.40.40 Join z35 [0] (n=z35@h213.59.90.75.dynamic.ip.windstream.net) 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gonna have to use gspot on the included videos with this player todetermine the proper codec and format to use when reencoding my own videos 16.49.23 # does anyone use ffmpeg for converting videos for players? 16.52.32 # scott_: It's listed in the Wiki as being an application that will work, but I don't personally use it. 17.02.08 Quit einhirn (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 17.02.30 Join einhirn [0] (n=Miranda@bsod.rz.tu-clausthal.de) 17.03.18 Quit GodEater ("There are two major products that come out of Berkeley: LSD and UNIX. We don't believe this to be a coincidence.") 17.03.40 Quit cspotcode (lindbohm.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 17.03.40 NSplit lindbohm.freenode.net irc.freenode.net 17.03.40 Quit davidfg4 (lindbohm.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 17.03.40 Quit Rob2223 (lindbohm.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 17.03.40 Quit shadearg (lindbohm.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 17.03.40 Quit n17ikh (lindbohm.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 17.03.40 Quit killan_ (lindbohm.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 17.04.10 Quit Zagor ("Don't panic") 17.04.55 # pyro_maniac: what was the command you used for disassembling? 17.05.24 NHeal lindbohm.freenode.net irc.freenode.net 17.05.24 NJoin killan_ [0] (n=nnscript@c-5ef170d5.06-397-67626721.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) 17.05.24 NJoin Rob2223 [0] (n=Miranda@p4FDCD5D8.dip.t-dialin.net) 17.05.24 NJoin cspotcode [0] (n=bradla@machamp-61.dynamic.rpi.edu) 17.05.24 NJoin davidfg4 [0] (n=david@69.51.95.200) 17.05.24 NJoin n17ikh [0] (n=n17ikh@130.127.74.89) 17.05.24 NJoin shadearg [0] (i=arg@ipv4.panoptix.net) 17.05.25 # kugel: i used IDA Pro on windows 17.05.39 # evilnick: which app? 17.05.58 # oh yeah ffmpeg 17.06.10 # pyro_maniac: you just loaded the .rom? 17.06.18 # well i found a gui frontend to ffmpeg for windows 17.06.23 # FFE 17.08.02 # I've successfully converted some videos using WinFF and some using VLC 17.08.46 Quit cspotcode (lindbohm.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 17.08.46 Quit davidfg4 (lindbohm.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 17.08.46 Quit Rob2223 (lindbohm.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 17.08.46 Quit shadearg (lindbohm.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 17.08.46 Quit n17ikh (lindbohm.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 17.08.46 Quit killan_ (lindbohm.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 17.08.56 NJoin shadearg [0] (i=arg@ipv4.panoptix.net) 17.08.56 NJoin n17ikh [0] (n=n17ikh@130.127.74.89) 17.08.56 NJoin davidfg4 [0] (n=david@69.51.95.200) 17.08.56 NJoin cspotcode [0] (n=bradla@machamp-61.dynamic.rpi.edu) 17.08.56 NJoin Rob2223 [0] (n=Miranda@p4FDCD5D8.dip.t-dialin.net) 17.08.56 NJoin killan_ [0] (n=nnscript@c-5ef170d5.06-397-67626721.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) 17.11.00 # kugel: you never worked with it before? 17.12.18 # i just opened it via drag and drop, configured the cpu architecture and pressed ok 17.12.29 # Zagor, Bagder: Time to add 3.2 to the flyspray version list 17.13.12 Quit killan_ (lindbohm.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 17.13.12 Quit Rob2223 (lindbohm.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 17.13.12 Quit cspotcode (lindbohm.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 17.13.12 Quit shadearg (lindbohm.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 17.13.12 Quit davidfg4 (lindbohm.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 17.13.12 Quit n17ikh (lindbohm.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 17.13.22 # then i marked the whole code, pressed 'C' and then analyse and got the code as result 17.13.39 # pretty easy but i don't no more about it 17.13.43 NJoin shadearg [0] (i=arg@ipv4.panoptix.net) 17.13.43 NJoin n17ikh [0] (n=n17ikh@130.127.74.89) 17.13.43 NJoin davidfg4 [0] (n=david@69.51.95.200) 17.13.43 NJoin cspotcode [0] (n=bradla@machamp-61.dynamic.rpi.edu) 17.13.43 NJoin Rob2223 [0] (n=Miranda@p4FDCD5D8.dip.t-dialin.net) 17.13.43 NJoin killan_ [0] (n=nnscript@c-5ef170d5.06-397-67626721.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) 17.14.26 Quit killan_ (lindbohm.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 17.14.26 Quit Rob2223 (lindbohm.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 17.14.26 Quit cspotcode (lindbohm.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 17.14.26 Quit shadearg (lindbohm.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 17.14.26 Quit davidfg4 (lindbohm.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 17.14.26 Quit n17ikh (lindbohm.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 17.14.31 # pyro_maniac: I have no access to ida, atm 17.15.44 # linuxstb: ping. What's the command for disassembling a binary with arm-elf-objdump (a .rom file)? it says file format not recognized 17.15.49 Join GodEater [50] (n=bryan@rockbox/staff/GodEater) 17.16.52 # I think I got it 17.17.21 NJoin killan_ [0] (n=nnscript@c-5ef170d5.06-397-67626721.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) 17.17.21 NJoin Rob2223 [0] (n=Miranda@p4FDCD5D8.dip.t-dialin.net) 17.17.21 NJoin cspotcode [0] (n=bradla@machamp-61.dynamic.rpi.edu) 17.17.21 NJoin davidfg4 [0] (n=david@69.51.95.200) 17.17.21 NJoin n17ikh [0] (n=n17ikh@130.127.74.89) 17.17.21 NJoin shadearg [0] (i=arg@ipv4.panoptix.net) 17.17.26 Join wangxiang__ [0] (n=wangxian@203.86.76.219) 17.18.26 # kugel: you are on the bootloader right? 17.20.02 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 17.20.39 # yea 17.21.29 Quit bmbl (Client Quit) 17.21.55 # could you compare it to the 920 version too? 17.22.33 # i am interested in what you think about it 17.23.29 Join kushalone [0] (n=kushal@12.169.180.178) 17.23.46 Join bmbl [0] (n=Miranda@unaffiliated/bmbl) 17.25.03 # pyro_maniac: no, I'm trying to find lcd commands 17.25.23 # ok 17.26.23 # i have to do something to ;-) so this could be good for me :-) 17.27.48 Join perrikwp [0] (i=4aa794a0@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-652e75b5becf9622) 17.29.01 Quit cspotcode (lindbohm.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 17.29.01 NSplit lindbohm.freenode.net irc.freenode.net 17.29.01 Quit davidfg4 (lindbohm.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 17.29.01 Quit Rob2223 (lindbohm.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 17.29.01 Quit shadearg (lindbohm.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 17.29.01 Quit n17ikh (lindbohm.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 17.29.01 Quit killan_ (lindbohm.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 17.29.39 NHeal lindbohm.freenode.net irc.freenode.net 17.29.39 NJoin killan_ [0] (n=nnscript@c-5ef170d5.06-397-67626721.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) 17.29.39 NJoin Rob2223 [0] (n=Miranda@p4FDCD5D8.dip.t-dialin.net) 17.29.39 NJoin cspotcode [0] (n=bradla@machamp-61.dynamic.rpi.edu) 17.29.39 NJoin davidfg4 [0] (n=david@69.51.95.200) 17.29.39 NJoin n17ikh [0] (n=n17ikh@130.127.74.89) 17.29.39 NJoin shadearg [0] (i=arg@ipv4.panoptix.net) 17.33.29 Quit wangxiang__ (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 17.34.10 Join petur2 [50] (n=petur@rockbox/developer/petur) 17.34.30 Quit petur (Nick collision from services.) 17.34.34 Nick petur2 is now known as petur (n=petur@rockbox/developer/petur) 17.35.59 Join krazykit` [0] (n=kkit@adsl-76-252-1-152.dsl.ipltin.sbcglobal.net) 17.36.24 Quit joejc () 17.37.08 # kugel: sorry if i am annoying but found something? 17.40.12 # not yet 17.40.21 Quit midgey () 17.40.51 Quit wangxiang (Success) 17.42.21 # i am not sure but i belive that i have read 0x70003000 in my disassamblys 17.42.45 Part grdxyxy 17.44.43 # pyro_maniac: h10 uses LCD2_BASE, which is at 0x70008a00 17.46.25 # kugel: ok maybe i am wrong 17.46.49 Quit cspotcode (lindbohm.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 17.46.49 NSplit lindbohm.freenode.net irc.freenode.net 17.46.49 Quit davidfg4 (lindbohm.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 17.46.49 Quit Rob2223 (lindbohm.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 17.46.49 Quit shadearg (lindbohm.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 17.46.49 Quit n17ikh (lindbohm.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 17.46.49 Quit killan_ (lindbohm.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 17.48.13 Quit krazykit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 17.52.09 Join cspotcode [0] (n=bradla@butter-pot-29.dynamic.rpi.edu) 17.52.19 Part cspotcode 17.52.28 Join cspotcode [0] (n=bradla@butter-pot-29.dynamic.rpi.edu) 17.53.21 Join t0mas [0] (n=tomas@rockbox/developer/t0mas) 17.57.42 Quit petur ("work->home") 18.00.59 # http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=21100.0;attach=3549;image That's a bit big.. 18.05.55 NHeal lindbohm.freenode.net irc.freenode.net 18.05.55 NJoin killan_ [0] (n=nnscript@c-5ef170d5.06-397-67626721.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) 18.05.55 NJoin Rob2223 [0] (n=Miranda@p4FDCD5D8.dip.t-dialin.net) 18.05.55 NJoin davidfg4 [0] (n=david@69.51.95.200) 18.05.55 NJoin n17ikh [0] (n=n17ikh@130.127.74.89) 18.05.55 NJoin shadearg [0] (i=arg@ipv4.panoptix.net) 18.10.11 Quit kugel (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 18.10.19 Quit Sedgewick ("off") 18.13.29 # rasher: on the theme site - who or what decided that the GreyscaleVP theme (160x128) would work for all colour depths? 18.13.49 # pixelma: I said we ignore colour depth currently 18.14.05 # Maybe we shouldn't 18.14.55 # I expect this one to only work in greyscale 18.15.50 # So should we not show greyscale themes for colour targets? 18.16.02 # And require an exact bitdepth match? 18.16.17 # This means people won't be able to install them from rbutil 18.18.29 # some things wont't work (tried to explain that yesterday - if WPS backdrop is used or album art or custom colours in viewports). Could the theme site run the WPS through checkwps for all three colour depths? 18.19.03 # and put it on the pages accordingly? 18.19.07 # It does already, if I'm not mistaken 18.19.24 Quit davidfg4 (lindbohm.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 18.19.24 Quit Rob2223 (lindbohm.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 18.19.24 Quit shadearg (lindbohm.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 18.19.24 Quit n17ikh (lindbohm.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 18.19.24 Quit killan_ (lindbohm.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 18.19.25 # Let me check the db 18.19.45 NJoin shadearg [0] (i=arg@ipv4.panoptix.net) 18.19.45 NJoin n17ikh [0] (n=n17ikh@130.127.74.89) 18.19.45 NJoin davidfg4 [0] (n=david@69.51.95.200) 18.19.45 NJoin Rob2223 [0] (n=Miranda@p4FDCD5D8.dip.t-dialin.net) 18.19.45 NJoin killan_ [0] (n=nnscript@c-5ef170d5.06-397-67626721.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) 18.21.03 # I can't imagine that the GreyscaleVP works in any other, unless the WPS parser ignores the colour parameters 18.21.38 # Wouldn't it work on h10? 18.21.44 # or better "shades of grey" 18.23.00 # those shades of grey are only 0, 1, 2, 3 there were viewports on colour targets define an RGB value 18.23.10 # s/were/where 18.24.03 # Ah, right. Well there's an additional problem 18.25.06 # Right now it doesn't even try to test on mrobe and h10 because the wps was uploaded as a h120 theme, and marked as having an rwps (I'm not sure if it does, actually - this should be properly checked rather than assuming all h120 themes have one. Oops) 18.25.19 # But that's a bit broken. I'll have to put on my thinking cap. 18.25.30 Join Thesmyth1 [0] (n=thesmyth@132.216.68.172) 18.25.51 Join midijunkie [0] (n=Miranda@pD9547114.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 18.25.53 Quit midijunkie (Remote closed the connection) 18.25.57 Join midijunkie [0] (n=Miranda@pD9547114.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 18.26.13 # alright, thanks for looking into this 18.26.22 # hey all, are there people around that I could talk to about Google Summer of code? 18.26.24 Join Strife89 [0] (n=michael@204.116.244.200) 18.28.27 # Thesmyth1: Do you have a project idea? 18.28.41 # well, I'm interested in the ARM emulator 18.29.02 # I'm in Electrical Engineer but I love programming 18.29.23 # and I've tried programming an emulator before 18.29.54 Part wincent ("Kopete 0.12.7 : http://kopete.kde.org") 18.31.20 Join kugel [0] (n=kugel@rockbox/developer/kugel) 18.32.56 # are there possible mentors assigned to any of the projects that I might be able to talk to? 18.35.53 # i proposed the emulator project last year 18.35.58 # so i can talk to you about it 18.36.14 # ohh, cool 18.36.30 # I 18.36.45 # 've attempted writting an NES emulator before 18.36.48 # its an abitious project, last years student quit after a few weeks 18.36.57 # how far did you get? 18.37.25 # It successfully rendered a test ROM that I get online, but failed to run an actually ROM 18.38.09 # I spent most of the fall semester playing with it 18.38.18 # have you done assembly or HDL programming? 18.38.24 # I was mostly writing it in VHDL and running it on an FPGA 18.38.44 # but at the end it wasn't working right, so I coded it again in Java to make sure my logic was working out right 18.38.52 # which is where the rendering was coming from 18.39.09 # have you done any ARM? 18.39.20 # or Coldfire I suppose if you're interested in those 18.39.35 # I've done a bit of MIPS assembly in my Comp Eng classes 18.39.55 # but I don't have any specific experience with ARM or Coldfire processors 18.40.26 # ok 18.40.35 # ARM ressembles MIPS in some ways 18.40.51 # what device were you interested in emulating? 18.41.08 # at this point I don't have a specific device 18.41.34 # no rockbox'ed player? 18.41.52 # I have an H300 that has somehow lasted for 5 years :D 18.42.08 # which is Coldfire 18.42.35 # a coldfire emulator could be a project, but its less interesting because there have been no new coldfire players in a long time 18.42.45 # yeah 18.42.58 # would I need the actual device, or do I just need to find good specs for the chips 18.43.15 # you'll probably need a device 18.43.29 # ok then 18.43.49 # so I can use debugging tools to get more info about the hardware? 18.45.08 # I've never done any reverse engineering stuff specifically, but what type of work is required? 18.45.10 # particularly if you chose to emulate a target with little documentation 18.45.18 # yes you'll be doing a very large amount of that 18.45.43 # even for targets where we have docs, they're seldom entirely complete, and do not tell you how the manufactorer has wired up the chip 18.45.58 # for many targets, the only docs are the rockbox source code 18.47.05 # we have one half workign emulator for the PP based Sandisk Sansa e200v1, and it was written mostly by looking at the rockbox source code and the docs for the ARM7TDMI processor 18.47.16 # but it was quite incomplete 18.48.40 # so since I've never done it, how do you test chip functionality? 18.48.57 # would I have to write custom code to run on rockbox to test the chips? 18.49.30 # perhaps 18.49.49 # i think you would start with the rockbox source code and the docs [if any exist] and then take a standard arm emulator 18.49.58 # then begin implementing the hardware devices that rockbox has drivers for 18.50.08 # until you get rockbox to boot 18.51.22 # alright, that's pretty much what I figured 18.52.14 # it sounds really interesting 18.52.42 # you might take a look at the old emulator 18.52.47 # its on our patch tracker somewhere 18.53.12 # its a standard arm emulator combined with a second emulator for screen, buttons, etc 18.53.35 # ok, I definitely will 18.55.57 Quit PaulJam (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 18.56.45 # thanks for the info, I'll look into that and drop by again 18.57.07 Join ZyL0R [0] (n=zylor@bl11-91-161.dsl.telepac.pt) 18.57.29 Quit pyro_maniac ("Leaving.") 18.59.44 Join jaykay [0] (n=chatzill@p579E6CAF.dip.t-dialin.net) 19.01.06 Quit einhirn ("Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org") 19.01.14 Quit Strife89 ("Away!") 19.02.19 Join pyro_maniac [0] (i=foobar@p57BB9AD7.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 19.03.19 Quit kushalone ("This computer has gone to sleep. Macs are like babies. They need a lot of sleep. :)") 19.05.12 Join dberg918 [0] (n=dave@cpe-098-121-161-003.ec.res.rr.com) 19.07.03 # just saw that the themes site is up, and I wanted to say kudos! 19.07.43 # and now a question 19.08.24 # if I've already uploaded a couple themes to the old WPS gallery, do I need to resubmit to have them included on the themes site? 19.08.29 Join taylor_ [0] (n=taylor@c-24-91-82-205.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) 19.08.33 Part Thesmyth1 19.09.18 # dberg918: Yes, we'd like the authors to upload them to the new theme site. Take note of the license, if you've used graphics/code from other people's themes 19.10.22 # cool 19.10.38 # I'll try to get mine ready to upload later today 19.12.41 # Great, it's still a bit empty there 19.13.10 Join low_light [0] (i=c730180b@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-c1357f14fa6eb463) 19.13.20 Join miepchen^schlaf [0] (n=miepel@p579EC6C2.dip.t-dialin.net) 19.13.30 # dberg918: it would actually be great if you could delete your theme from the wpsgallery at the same time, or make a (very obvious) note that it's been moved. 19.14.34 Join JdGordon|| [0] (i=836b0049@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-4a9d29cb01730e8f) 19.14.48 # kugel, pyro_maniac: I have the Samsung yh-820 & yh-925. I've got the lcd and buttons working in a basic bootloader (not a full build yet) 19.15.37 # wow 19.15.44 # \o/ 19.15.50 # I have also looked at the yh-920 firmware and have written a basic lcd driver (although I don't have an actual device) 19.16.34 # low_light: maybe you can upload it and i will test it tomorrow or on weekend 19.17.04 # I *hope* to commit the basic target trees next week for all three 19.17.07 # low_light: oh, can I have some code? 19.17.31 # those arnt the samsung players with bluetooth yeah? 19.17.37 # no 19.17.42 Join barrywardell_ [0] (n=barrywar@dhcp-892b3cb6.ucd.ie) 19.17.42 # I've got a 925, and a 820 with pretty dead battery (the latter only temporary) 19.17.57 # and i have a 920 19.18.08 # jdgordon|: more PP5020 19.18.20 # low_light: Would be nice if you could share the lcd+button code. The rest can be taken from h10 it seems 19.18.37 Quit cspotcode (Remote closed the connection) 19.18.51 # kugel: I'm at work and can't get to it now 19.19.26 Join cspotcode [0] (n=bradla@butter-pot-29.dynamic.rpi.edu) 19.19.38 # darn. well, I'm struggeling with the lcd a bit. the h10 20GB lcd driver works almost, but the window addresses need to be fixed 19.19.41 # kugel: from what I recall, you can set the y-offset to 0 and add an x-offset of 16 19.20.02 Join jian2587 [0] (n=84ece388@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-f405093215d44fe3) 19.20.05 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 19.20.29 # it will still be flipped/mirrored though. I had to change the entry mode register too 19.22.26 # kugel: the ports also need a codec driver for the AK4537 19.22.40 Join Horscht [0] (n=Horscht@xbmc/user/horscht) 19.24.01 Join domonoky [0] (n=Domonoky@rockbox/developer/domonoky) 19.24.24 # kugel: the USB thing is probably that your device uses a different GPIO bit to detect USB than the H10 does. Look at firmware/target/arm/usb-fw-pp502x.c 19.24.26 # kugel: I'm also not sure if all the power settings in the h10 driver are right for the 925. I need to compare with what the 925 OF uses. 19.24.48 # Q: I'm using Sansa C200. How do I temporarily boot back to the original firmware from rockbox? 19.25.37 # barrywardell: yea, I guessed that. USB works fine though 19.26.01 Quit barrywardell_ () 19.26.04 # kugel: USB detect is GPIOD bit 7 (from my notes) 19.26.05 # jian2587: This is covered in the manual section 3.1.3 19.26.16 # rasher: thank you. 19.27.05 Quit FOAD (Remote closed the connection) 19.28.40 # kugel: great! 19.29.28 Join FOAD [0] (n=dok@dinah.blub.net) 19.31.36 Quit jian2587 ("CGI:IRC") 19.32.37 Join ibseco [0] (n=ibseco@BAH0a73.bah.pppool.de) 19.34.55 Quit barrywardell (Remote closed the connection) 19.36.19 Join Horschti [0] (n=Horscht@xbmc/user/horscht) 19.37.47 Part pyro_maniac ("Leaving.") 19.38.30 # http://themes.rockbox.org/index.php?target=ipod4g 19.38.38 # 4g greyscale shows a lot of colour... 19.39.20 # Yes.. it's a tough one 19.39.44 # ah yes, the m5 has the same problem 19.40.08 # It would be fairly easy to just require display depth match 19.40.19 # But then, some themes might work anyway 19.40.36 Quit scott_ ("Lost terminal") 19.40.44 # Depending on whether they use backdrops and viewports with colours defined 19.41.06 # rasher: I think it is probbaly better to miss a few working ones than have Rockbox Utility install non-working ones 19.41.39 # rasher: Also someone *might* think that RBUtil can magically make their greyscale player colour :) 19.42.09 # Well, with some added sql magic, we could make sure the theme works, but the screenshot will of course not be accurate. rbutil could be informed of this 19.42.42 # well that is even better :) 19.43.58 # let checkwps check the depth? 19.44.19 # No. 19.45.14 # Checkwps just needs to check the syntax. That means the theme will load and work. It might not look good, but there's no way checkwps can know that 19.45.19 Quit Horschti ("Verlassend") 19.48.35 # low_light: D7 doesn't seem to work 19.49.14 Quit Horscht (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 19.49.16 Join Horschti [0] (n=Horscht@xbmc/user/horscht) 19.51.46 Join cspotcode1 [0] (n=bradla@vpnwl-228-184.net.rpi.edu) 19.52.41 Join MethoS [0] (n=lem@host-091-096-215-019.ewe-ip-backbone.de) 19.53.33 Quit ultrasonic (Connection timed out) 19.53.41 Quit cspotcode (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 19.54.00 Quit jhMikeS (Nick collision from services.) 19.54.02 Join _jhMikeS_ [50] (n=jethead7@rockbox/developer/jhMikeS) 19.54.42 Join midgey [0] (n=tjross@71.238.148.140) 19.55.25 Join archivator [0] (n=archivat@77.70.28.57) 19.59.10 Join Strife89 [0] (n=michael@204.116.244.200) 19.59.52 Quit _jhMikeS_ (Nick collision from services.) 19.59.56 Join jhMikeS [50] (n=jethead7@rockbox/developer/jhMikeS) 20.03.00 # Anyone using FS#9857? 20.03.30 # sorry - FS#8400 is what I meant. 20.04.43 Quit evilnick ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") 20.05.58 Join evilnick [0] (i=0c140464@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-3c5b65fda8e5e1f3) 20.06.13 # kugel: when I connect usb, GPIOD_INPUT_VAL goes from 0xE8 to 0xF8 (bit 7 goes high) 20.07.41 Join scott_ [0] (n=scott@80.76.201.57) 20.09.24 Quit Strife89 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 20.09.32 Join Strife89 [0] (n=michael@204.116.244.200) 20.09.38 # low_light: that's not bit 7 20.09.56 # more like bit 4 20.11.34 Join moos [0] (i=Mustapha@rockbox/staff/moos) 20.14.00 Quit cspotcode1 ("Leaving.") 20.14.32 # kugel: my bad, you're right...that's why I write things down 20.14.51 # http://rapidshare.com/files/101234522/S5L8700X-DS.pdf.html... Thanks to cmwslw for finding this link on the Rockbox site. I'm just wondering, its marked as "confidential", Does anyone know who uploaded it? (the doc is on the chip in the new ipods) 20.15.08 Quit davidfg4 (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 20.16.06 # archivator: hi! I've spent a little time toying with the spectrum idea and I'v got a little test plugin that gets the PCM data that's about to get sent to the DAC 20.16.20 Join kushalone [0] (n=kushal@12.169.180.178) 20.19.01 Join bertrik [0] (n=bertrik@ip117-49-211-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl) 20.19.10 # Nico_P: thanks to a tip from jhMikeS I found the bug in my code that basically discarded most of the data *blush* It now uses the peak buffer to get a pretty low latency copy of the data going to the DAC. I'm currently toying with visualization and FFT 20.19.36 # you're using pcm_play_dma_get_peak_buffer? 20.19.43 # Yes. 20.20.43 # low_light: hm, no success. Seems to freeze just before the main menu shows 20.20.55 # would you agree to pastebin the code? 20.21.02 # Nico_P: Only, my first attempts discarded much of the data and I started looking for a different path. After a more careful look, I found my mistake and .. it's a matter of lots of fixed-point math now :) 20.21.13 # Nico_P: which part? My current plugin is not usable. 20.21.29 # low_light: will be back later. I hope you can hand some code out then (or pastebin it, so that I can read the logs and get it). 20.21.40 Quit kugel (Remote closed the connection) 20.21.41 # I'm gonna post an FS entry as soon as I have something working anyway.. 20.21.46 # ok 20.22.20 # Nico_P: hey, so what do you recon about 9795? 20.23.39 # I haven't had much time to think about a possible way to make the various parts interact 20.24.21 # so we should sit tight and do nothing until we discuss things properly? 20.24.33 # * JdGordon|| is ok with that btw... 20.25.14 # also, I dont know if you saw the other patch, but I want to move the cuesheet logic out of the wps code and into playback somehow 20.25.33 # the seeking/loading part anyway 20.25.54 Quit Strife89 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 20.25.54 # yes, that would be a good thing 20.26.18 Join Strife89 [0] (n=michael@204.116.244.200) 20.26.33 # I think we should discuss it, yes. I don't have much planned this weekend so maybe I'll be able to give it some thought and maybe start a discussion on the ML 20.26.47 # but if you have ideas and/or want to do so, feel free :) 20.26.53 Join Conic [0] (n=conicpp@c-75-68-165-66.hsd1.vt.comcast.net) 20.26.53 Join Conic_ [0] (n=conicpp@c-75-68-165-66.hsd1.vt.comcast.net) 20.27.05 Quit Conic_ (Client Quit) 20.27.22 # I'll wait till for your thread 20.32.01 Join faemir [0] (n=faemir@88-106-169-118.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) 20.35.28 Join bicyclerepairman [0] (n=sam@79-68-113-174.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) 20.35.28 Quit kushalone (No route to host) 20.35.53 Join Strife1989 [0] (n=michael@204.116.244.200) 20.40.25 Join cspotcode [0] (n=bradla@vpnwl-228-63.net.rpi.edu) 20.41.17 Quit Strife89 (Nick collision from services.) 20.41.23 Nick Strife1989 is now known as Strife89 (n=michael@204.116.244.200) 20.41.51 Join fuUser [0] (n=fuUser@p57A2696A.dip.t-dialin.net) 20.42.44 Quit LambdaCalculus37 ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)") 20.43.17 # JdGordon||: Is there an easy way to not draw the status bar on just a remote? 20.43.39 Join BXCracer [0] (n=bxcracer@78-62-4-159.static.zebra.lt) 20.43.40 # Is there a way to compile _parts_ of rockbox core without debug output? The graphics optimizations (vertical/horizontal lines) are flooding my sim output.. 20.43.42 # I have the m:robe 100 remote working. I guess I'd like to not use the status bar on the remote, rather have it update the lcd icons 20.44.07 Join Thundercloud [0] (i=thunderc@persistence.flat.devzero.co.uk) 20.44.24 # low_light: no, never has been an option to disable the bar on one screen.... if you do a custom build it should be a simple change though 20.44.31 Join LambdaCalculus37 [0] (n=44a04303@rockbox/staff/LambdaCalculus37) 20.44.32 Quit MethoS (Remote closed the connection) 20.45.46 Part fuUser 20.49.52 Join Zagor [242] (n=bjst@46.35.227.87.static.tab.siw.siwnet.net) 20.52.58 Quit perrikwp ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") 20.57.29 Quit dberg918 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 20.58.10 Quit n17ikh () 20.58.19 Join Lss [0] (n=Lss@cm246.delta91.maxonline.com.sg) 20.58.34 Quit LambdaCalculus37 ("CGI:IRC 0.5.9 (2006/06/06)") 21.00.10 # jdgordon||: I also want multifont. The remote display is really only practical with < 8pt fonts, but that's too small for the main display. 21.00.40 Join tessarakt [0] (n=jens@e180069085.adsl.alicedsl.de) 21.01.17 # yeah, multifont would be nice... 21.01.39 # we could hack together a patch which lets you use 2 different fonts for 2 screen targets easily 21.01.46 # * JdGordon|| wonders why it hasnt been done yet 21.02.27 # I'll play with that tonight maybe... 21.02.51 Join MethoS [0] (n=lem@host-091-096-215-019.ewe-ip-backbone.de) 21.02.55 # that would be nice :-) 21.03.21 # I'm not sure how much work would be involved... i cant imagine there is much 21.04.24 # worst case.. we can force the remote display to use sysfont (yes, not very good... ) 21.04.25 # There's acually another problem with the statusbar...there's no sanity checks for it's width. It doesn't fit on the 79x16 display, so it data aborts. 21.04.46 # doesnt surprise me :p 21.06.34 # Hi, anyone around for talk about a GSoC project? 21.06.47 # a few of us... 21.07.53 # low_light: but yeah... if you want to disable the bar on the remote its a very simple change.. apps/gui/statusbar.c i tihnk there is a macro/function named is_bar_displayed() or something... just get the to return false for screen==1 and your all set 21.08.23 # I've been looking at the project list, and I'm especially drawn to the ideas about extending Rockbox's USB support beyond basic mass storage device. 21.08.46 Quit cspotcode (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 21.08.55 # * JdGordon|| gets gevaerts's attention for rwcr 21.09.09 # Thanks. 21.10.04 # * gevaerts wakes up 21.10.33 Quit Strife89 ("I'm off.") 21.10.34 # Admittedly I'm pretty new to Rockbox, but I was a core iPodLinux developer for a while (I was josh_ there, new nickname because there are too many Joshes around :-) so I think I have a pretty good idea of the low-level development that'd be involved. 21.11.23 Join jordoex [0] (n=quassel@S0106002129693a39.vc.shawcable.net) 21.11.30 # speaking of statusbar - I saw a weird glitch on my c200 just now (and it was reproducible). When going to the colour settings > line selector > primary colour > colour choser, backing out of that screen blanks the statusbar and it stays this way in the submenus, entering the main menu or WPS and then go back, makes it reappear 21.12.03 Join petur [50] (n=petur@rockbox/developer/petur) 21.12.07 # rwcr: what sort of question did you have about the project(s)? 21.12.14 # * scorche adds an s 21.12.21 # rwcr: are you saying you want to help? 21.12.25 # rwcr: I guess that means you have a supported ipod and that you know C :) 21.12.47 Join LiTHiUM0XiD3 [0] (n=63e3c58c@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-bca9b6a61722123d) 21.13.01 # pixelma: buzz kugel about that later :) he's doing a good job at fixing them 21.13.07 # Mainly I wanted to know how feasible that sort of thing would be - how strong Rockbox's general USB infrastructure is, how much documentation is available on the protocol in question, etc. 21.13.16 # And yes, I want to help, and I have a 5G iPod and I know C and ARM assembler. 21.13.25 # jdgordon||: looks like there's some code there with VP_SB_ONSCREEN() macros. I guess that's intended for wps. 21.13.32 # JdGordon|: I'd love multifont too, but different remote and main fonts would be a good start :) 21.14.00 # rwcr: You were a developer for iPL? 21.14.06 # I was indeed. 21.14.13 # so can i ask a question? why could i get rockbox and such running on my 1st gen nano... have it all super sweet... and i cant do the same for my PMP 1xx? i mean those things already run linux... 21.14.34 Join n17ikh [0] (n=n17ikh@130.127.74.89) 21.14.40 # LiTHiUM0XiD3: because non one has done the work necessary to port it to those devices 21.14.49 # low_light: that could be it... i'm at work so cant be more specifc :/ ) 21.14.56 # I'm Josh - I wrote various stuff, most notably the modular podzilla version. 21.15.19 # i wish someone would do something for the PM 1xx 21.15.20 # rwcr: on what USB extensions are you interessted ? More usb device classes, or maybe usb host ? 21.15.22 # rwcr: protocol documentation is not a problem. We're only talking about standardised things here 21.15.27 # LiTHiUM0XiD3: Rockbox needs to be adapted to the specific hardware in a player. 21.15.34 # oh i know 21.15.36 # pixelma: isnt there a problem currently with targets sharing wps' where one has the remote and one doesnt so the fonts being used are different? 21.15.41 # like running a hackintosh.. 21.15.51 # kernel and such has to be modified... 21.15.56 # USB host would be great, but I'm not sure the iPod can support it, and I don't have any other types of players to work with - which'd make development rather difficult. 21.16.10 # the iPod cannot, right 21.16.21 # i know the difficulties... just wishin someone would do it lolz.. or hopin i could somehow help aswell... 21.16.21 # LiTHiUM0XiD3: Only people who want it enough will do it. 21.16.22 Join fyrestorm [0] (n=fyre@cpe-68-173-232-9.nyc.res.rr.com) 21.17.00 # i have minor linux skills.. 21.17.07 # enough to run my own install with all my own spec 21.17.19 # LiTHiUM0XiD3: you know that rockbox isn't based on linux, right? 21.17.24 # LiTHiUM0XiD3: Let's stay on topic please 21.17.24 # well, rockbox isnt linux...can you program in C? 21.17.46 # rwcr: I assume you've read the USB bits on the SummerOfCode2009 page? 21.17.46 # i know its not linux based... 21.17.53 # I was thinking more along the lines of implementing the MTP device class, with the hopeful goal of letting files get transferred while Rockbox was running. 21.17.57 # Yeah, I've read those bits. 21.18.02 # JdGordon||: can't think of one. There was the problem with the Clip WPS which was the same as the Iriver remote and if you didn't want to break it, the WPS looked wrong on the Clip because it uses a different sized default font but that's been solved by giving the Clip an on WPS 21.18.04 # but with a linux OS already on the PMP 1xx it shouldnt be hard.. 21.18.15 # and im shit with C... 21.18.44 # i started learnin a few yrs ago.... got rly into it... but then got bored and moved onto delphi.. 21.18.54 # which i only half picked up on aswell 21.19.08 # Actually, maybe a USB-Ethernet implementation would be more useful - not sure how well that's supported host-end for the average user, though. 21.19.09 Quit midgey () 21.19.10 # LiTHiUM0XiD3: if you are trying to convince someone here to work on it for you, i dont think is going to work well...ports are started by people with the motivation, the capability, and the device itself 21.19.26 # im not askin someone else to it for me at all 21.19.37 # im just stating that i know i dont have the skills to finish it... 21.19.48 # i would be glad to help tho in any way i can 21.20.00 # rwcr: I think the infrastructure is solid enough for MTP (and probably ethernet). The only thing really missing would be support for choosing at runtime what driver to load 21.20.07 Quit ZyL0R ("( www.nnscript.com :: NoNameScript 4.22 :: www.esnation.com )") 21.20.08 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 21.20.16 # LiTHiUM0XiD3: Best get learning those C skills then - that is really the only way to help 21.20.41 # rwcr: Actually, not that I remember, I do think I remember you supplying iPL with some helpful code. I think working on the USB interface is a really good idea. 21.20.45 # *now 21.21.00 # * domonoky doesnt know if Ethernet-over-USB is really helpfull, its just "cool". i Think MTP and USB audio would be more helpfull :-) 21.21.08 # taylor_: hush 21.21.34 # s/helpfull/useful 21.21.50 # rwcr: I suspect that if we have a USB ethernet implementation with widely available drivers (I don't know how well standard CDC is supported by OSes), it should be easy to setup 21.22.04 # gevaerts: That's good - so it'd be mostly a matter of writing the appropriate drivers and figuring out good ways of integrating them. 21.22.17 # yes 21.22.23 # i plan to get brushin up on my C... just want to know if anybody else is or has done any work regardin the PMP -1xx 21.22.27 # Unhelpful: tested FS#9992 a bit on both my Ondio and c200. On the c200 controls seem to work nicely now and feel intuitive, on the Ondio the long "off" was a bit weird. Since the long "power" on c200 doesn't bother me, I'm assuming this is because a short "off" on the Ondio does nothing (in contrast to short "power" on c200) 21.22.38 # it either feels unresponsive or uncomfortable since you don't know when the hard poweroff kicks in. I'd try a short "off" on the Ondio 21.22.43 # taylor_: Thanks :-) I'm hoping to do something close to the hardware, since I've already done quite a bit in terms of user-interface media player stuff and I'm a bit burned out on that side of things. 21.22.45 # LiTHiUM0XiD3: you can search the wiki and the forums to find that out 21.23.04 # LiTHiUM0XiD3: Not that I remember - check out the wiki and New Ports forum 21.23.07 # i prolly shoulda done that lolz 21.23.20 # thing is... i see soo much potential 21.23.29 # rwcr: Yeah, its always good to change it up once in a while ;) 21.23.38 # the PMP 1xx from what ive been readin is the perfect platform to work with.. 21.23.38 # LiTHiUM0XiD3: and please use real words in here as the guidelines linked in the topic say... 21.24.03 # yeah man no worries... i appoligize... im used to typin IM heh 21.24.33 # Is there anything you'd like me to hash out with you before typing up a proposal, to make sure I'm not wasting time with back-and-forths? 21.24.40 # have you looked into USB before? 21.25.01 Quit n17ikh () 21.25.38 Quit jordoex (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 21.25.55 # gevaerts: Which class is it that needs to be done to allow proper charging on Windows? 21.26.06 # Unhelpful: just saw in the code that a short "off" should actually do something, didn't discover it while using pf 21.26.17 # Very briefly, in the context of writing a driver from scratch (hobbyist OS type thing). I have a general idea of the structure of USB communications, but at the time I was discouraged by how complicated it was. 21.26.18 Quit LiTHiUM0XiD3 ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 21.26.24 Join LiTHiUM0XiD3 [0] (n=63e3c58c@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-d5c404a14c22d824) 21.26.25 # BigBambi: the consensus on that is HID, but any class that's non-intrusive works 21.26.31 # With some basic infrastructure already in place I think I'd be able to handle it much better. 21.27.03 # * domonoky would really like usb audio. then you could use the dap the hear fm-radio on you pc :-) 21.27.04 # gevaerts: I'd put that high up the list then :) 21.27.19 # rwcr: I'm guessing then, it would be much easier to look at the usb code for Rockbox already, and then add to it? 21.27.25 Join jordoex [0] (n=quassel@S010600032f35d6b0.vc.shawcable.net) 21.27.47 # Have a look at the files in firmware/usbstack. usb_serial.c basically implements the minimum you can get away with and still call it a real driver 21.27.56 Join EternalRains [0] (n=Abztrkhi@c-76-106-220-241.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) 21.27.56 # taylor_: That's what I'm figuring. 21.28.11 # taylor_: could you please stop guessing things, if you dont know the details ? :-) 21.28.12 # And I'll take a look, gevaerts. 21.28.37 # USB audio is possible, but that requires a bit of low-level driver as well. 21.28.56 # I'm assuming it'd be pretty easy to find the protocol-level docs for whatever device class I wind up doing (seems like MTP would be the best one to start with). 21.29.11 # Could I propose one device class, and then if it doesn't take me the whole summer to finish it, work on others? 21.29.16 # have a look at http://www.usb.org/developers/devclass_docs 21.29.27 # rwcr: that's my idea, yes. 21.29.35 # rwcr: yep 21.29.41 # That looks great - thanks for the link! 21.30.07 # Maybe HID would be a good one to start with 21.30.23 # \o/ 21.30.25 # rwcr: also, as i am not sure how useful USB-ethernet would be, i would like to see something more along the lines of mtp, usb-audio, HID, etc =) 21.30.43 # gevaerts: That's true, it's simpler and has a bit of "cool" factor as well (DAP as input device). 21.31.02 # scorche: Yeah, that's what I'm gathering - I wouldn't do USB-ethernet before the more useful alternatives. 21.31.07 # rwcr: pluss it'll enable us to do a charging-only connection properly on windows 21.31.18 # rwcr: HID > mtp > usb-audio for me :) 21.31.22 # This is why I wanted to discuss the idea, to see which choices would be most useful. 21.31.29 # rasher: Ah, I didn't realize it'd be useful for that - that's a good point. 21.33.04 Quit bubsy ("Don't panic.") 21.33.22 # Sounds like a useful ordering. I wouldn't start out with audio, as it may provide nice hardware-related hurdles. HID and MTP should be "just" software 21.33.35 Join jordoex_ [0] (n=quassel@S010600032f35d6b0.vc.shawcable.net) 21.33.41 # Starting with HID sounds good, with a goal for the summer of HID + MTP, and USB-audio if I have the time for it. 21.33.50 # Does that fit with what you're looking for? 21.34.12 # * JdGordon|| wonders how much work tagcache will have to play nice with mtp 21.34.24 Join roughL [0] (n=raphaels@204-198.0-85.cust.bluewin.ch) 21.34.27 Join casainho [0] (n=chatzill@87-196-210-85.net.novis.pt) 21.34.34 # JdGordon||: can you give one file to tagcache to look at? 21.34.40 # JdGordon||: none, I'd expect. Unless you mean updating the db while transferring? 21.34.41 # no idea 21.34.50 # rwcr: I think so, yes 21.35.07 # rwcr: Maybe you should also give runtime configuring of usb mode a thought 21.35.30 # hello :-) -- I uploaded the Lyre bootloader patch: http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/10045 -- I hope is all ok. 21.36.09 # rasher: Good point - it seems like that'd be a prerequisite for my contribs being useful anyway. 21.36.27 Quit GodEater (Remote closed the connection) 21.36.33 # Maybe a pop-up on the device screen that asks the user to pick what they want the device to be, or something similar. 21.36.39 # In the long run, yes. But I imagine the two things can be done more or less independently? 21.37.12 # rwcr: Could just be a setting I would think 21.37.18 # rwcr: I wouldn't want to be asked on every boot 21.37.24 # Should be. While I'm working on the drivers I can just make the driver I'm working on the default. 21.37.36 # BigBambi: I'd imagine the question coming up on connect? 21.37.51 # I think it needs to be a normal setting. Asking the user on plugin means long waiting times during enumeration and will give issues 21.37.58 # rasher: I wouldn't want to be asked on every connect either 21.38.00 # BigBambi: Yeah, that's probably a better idea. "Act as: hard disk/media player/input device/speakers" 21.38.05 # Both ways have pros/cons 21.38.15 # rwcr: I like the idea of the setting. Or, you could do something "Do not ask again" choice. 21.38.19 # And if the user hasn't set it yet, a notice on connect that it's currently acting as X and they can change it if they want. 21.38.25 Join n17ikh [0] (n=n17ikh@130.127.74.89) 21.38.32 # That would avoid the enumeration wait-time issues. 21.38.35 # Maybe a button press? i.e. just plug for MSC, menu for charging, play for MTP etc? 21.38.47 Quit LiTHiUM0XiD3 ("CGI:IRC") 21.39.31 # rwcr: Either way, the way to chose between modes is minor detail I think 21.39.43 # Yeah, best to get the driver support first. 21.39.53 # Configuration should be a day's work or so... 21.42.27 Quit jordoex_ (Remote closed the connection) 21.43.19 Quit Thundercloud (Remote closed the connection) 21.43.21 Join midgey [0] (n=tjross@v-umnet-vpn-4-28.umnet.umich.edu) 21.43.54 # rwcr: Just speaking personally I would very much like to see this done :) 21.44.07 # * gevaerts agrees, but he may be biased 21.45.24 # Thanks - I'm hoping to get the chance to do it! 21.46.09 # well, someone has to do it :) 21.46.44 # rwcr: Good luck, keep us updated ;) 21.47.47 # I will. :-) 21.48.42 Quit Nico_P (Remote closed the connection) 21.49.01 Join jaykay_ [0] (n=chatzill@p579E656E.dip.t-dialin.net) 21.49.05 # http://www.b3ta.com/questions/god/post390954 21.50.14 # evilnick: ? 21.50.40 # Sorry all, wrong channel 21.50.50 # I think you meant to post in community :) 21.50.52 # Oh, ok! 21.51.05 Quit jordoex (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 21.53.41 Join rewtstyle [0] (i=dmg@spetsnaz.su) 21.55.30 Join kachna|lappy [0] (n=kachna@r4ax178.net.upc.cz) 21.55.40 Quit fyrestorm (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 21.56.06 # hey guys. anyone here built FS#8806 - MikMod MOD, S3M, IT, XM player on a linux box? im no expert, but it kinda feels like some files the patch(es) want to alter just dont exist in the current svn tree 21.57.08 Join fyrestorm [0] (n=fyre@cpe-68-173-232-9.nyc.res.rr.com) 21.57.26 Join Reptile211 [0] (n=chatzill@host-216-66-248-9.static.linkline.com) 21.58.28 # rewtstyle: Can you build Rockbox without the patch? 22.00.11 Quit bicyclerepairman (Client Quit) 22.02.21 # evilnick yep, that works just fine. (building against arm). im not saying that the files are actually missing, but that maybe the source tree has been reorganized or whatever has happened there :) 22.03.11 # Are you using the latest patch from the comments on that task? 22.04.15 # ive tried different things, and among them the patch posted on 12 feb. 22.04.37 Quit jaykay (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 22.05.57 # The only other thing that I'd try then is to get the svn from the 12th Feb and try that 22.06.18 # yea ill check that out, thx :) 22.07.09 # Best of luck ;) 22.08.41 Join IuDeX [0] (n=4e83d3b2@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-588fbfd7a873f079) 22.09.40 # I have one question. Can we access second GB on v1 sansa AMS? I want to compile the RB. 22.10.16 Join LiTHiUM0XiD3 [0] (n=63e3c58c@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-deb09246667e3170) 22.10.16 Quit LiTHiUM0XiD3 (Client Quit) 22.12.46 # Can anybody answer me? 22.13.15 # IuDeX: woah, hold on! :) Im guessing you mean "rockbox" from 'RB'? 22.13.28 # IuDeX: Sansa are either v1 or AMS I thought? Is it the e-series or the c-series? 22.13.34 Quit low_light ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") 22.14.06 # there are v1s and v2s of the amses 22.14.29 # taylor_: Yes. "RB" is "rockbox" 22.14.48 # IuDeX: haha. Ok, just wanted to clarify. 22.15.06 # IuDeX: I believe that stuff is still in a patch 22.15.16 # In the Sansa AMS is the Clip. There are 2 versions of this. Clipv1 and Clipv2. :) 22.15.49 # v2 sansas are the fuze 22.15.51 # etc 22.16.07 # taylor_: no 22.16.08 # taylor_: he's right 22.16.10 # clip v2 is the 8GB version, right? 22.16.11 # taylor_: so what about Clip v1 and v2? 22.16.17 # Bagder: Ah, hence the name change. V2V1 and V2V2 would be more confusing! 22.16.19 # Please don't talk about things you know nothing about 22.16.43 # evilnick: we thought so yes... :-) 22.17.19 # Sorry, I was going by this: "v2 Fuze" when I looked it up. 22.17.22 # http://daniel.haxx.se/sansa/ams.html 22.17.39 # yes, there's a v1 fuze and a v2 fuze 22.17.52 # both being AMS 22.18.00 # So can we access second GB or not? :) 22.18.06 # IuDeX: I believe that stuff is still in a patch 22.18.17 # in the patch tracker 22.18.32 # so yes, but not with the svn code 22.18.50 # Bagder: ok thanks ;) 22.19.05 Quit ibseco (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 22.19.22 # So I have to wait for svn. 22.19.34 # No 22.19.42 # you could compile it in with the SVN code 22.22.39 # ok 22.22.46 # thanks all for help 22.22.53 # bye :) 22.22.55 Quit IuDeX ("CGI:IRC") 22.26.07 # yep. np 22.29.13 Join cspotcode [0] (n=bradla@machamp-61.dynamic.rpi.edu) 22.30.30 Part taylor_ ("Leaving") 22.31.28 Quit petur ("Zzzzz") 22.34.11 Join Ubuntuxer [0] (n=johannes@dslb-094-220-229-066.pools.arcor-ip.net) 22.36.38 # Bagder: how long does building a set of manuals take? 22.37.11 # not a very long time, perhaps 20 minutes or so 22.37.39 Quit jaykay_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 22.37.42 # Ah, that's a bit too long to build on all changes in /manual/ I guess 22.38.05 # unless we do it distributed! ;-) 22.38.13 Join Thundercloud [0] (i=thunderc@persistence.flat.devzero.co.uk) 22.39.24 Join sdubois92 [0] (n=steven@c-24-63-173-219.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) 22.40.25 # I am getting the "database not ready" message, but it is working. I just want to start the database over. I have database_1.tcd all the way to 8 and idx.tcd. get rid of them all? 22.41.10 # I am too tired to post an FS entry at the moment, so if anyone would like to see a pre-pre-pre-alpha version of my frequency analyzer work (it's a mess, the graph doesn't update regularly and is hardly usable at all), see here: http://pastebin.com/m6ec48404 Tested only on ipodvideo sim. It's not much but it's a start... 22.42.10 Quit evilnick ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") 22.44.38 # sdubois92: yes, delete all .tcd files 22.44.46 # Bagder: what do you think of some kind of notification of a failed manual build, it has happened a couple of times and is usually not noticed until much later 22.44.59 # s/,/?/ 22.45.10 # we should have that yes 22.45.25 # at least in the daily manual builds 22.45.35 # It would be very handy 22.49.35 # nice activity in the installer "button" thread I must say 22.53.36 # BigBambi: Yes, anything to steer people at RBUtil is a good thing IMO 22.53.45 # er, Bagder 22.53.57 # indeed! 22.54.05 Quit Ubuntuxer ("Leaving.") 22.57.02 Join BleuLlama [0] (n=yorgle@65-37-10-247.nrp2.roc.ny.frontiernet.net) 22.57.59 Join mcuelenaere [0] (n=mcuelena@rockbox/developer/mcuelenaere) 22.58.22 Quit archivator () 23.00.07 Join taylor_ [0] (n=taylor@c-24-91-82-205.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) 23.03.33 Join einhirn [0] (n=Miranda@p4FC60AF1.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 23.14.17 Quit taylor_ ("Leaving") 23.14.22 Quit casainho ("ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 3.0.7/2009030422]") 23.15.00 Quit Conic (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 23.20.10 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 23.20.17 Join flyback [0] (n=16mb@c-71-236-75-166.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) 23.20.28 # so what's a inexpensive decent music player I can throw rockbox on 23.21.13 Part flyback ("Leaving") 23.21.21 Join gartral [0] (n=gareth@75.33.64.115) 23.21.58 Quit midgey () 23.22.12 Part gartral 23.28.17 Join EspeonEefi [0] (i=eefi@STRATTON-TWO-EIGHTY.MIT.EDU) 23.29.35 Join cxo [0] (n=cxo@unaffiliated/cruiseoveride) 23.30.54 # Hello... I'm in the market for a PMP. 23.31.12 Quit rewtstyle ("See Ya!") 23.33.09 Join taylor_ [0] (n=taylor@c-24-91-82-205.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) 23.33.20 # Read the buyers guide, and Hmmm'd a lot. I basically want a Zune with Linux on it. But then after more reading, and more research, I realised that was like asking for 7 virgins after I die 23.33.50 Quit einhirn (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 23.33.51 # if you want linux, you're in the wrong channel 23.34.18 # s/Linux/Open Source OS 23.35.33 # cxo: have a look at http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/BuyersGuide 23.36.10 # I read that (didnt i say that?) 23.36.10 # Rockbox is focused on being an audio player (although it does have a basic, mpeg-1 or mpeg-2 only video player). Maybe not ideal if you're looking for a PMP 23.36.20 # Oh I see 23.36.25 # ah yes you did. Sorry 23.36.58 # What was that project that made Linux kernels for PDAs? 23.37.06 # * cxo forgets what its called 23.37.12 Quit EspeonEefi ("さよなら") 23.37.19 # Off-topic? 23.37.41 # Sorry 23.40.19 # cxo: But the Gigabeat S runs Rockbox (it's not quite reached "supported" status though), and that's basically a Zune minus the wifi. 23.41.48 # Not bad 23.43.22 Quit jgarvey ("Leaving") 23.44.13 Quit roughL ("Leaving.") 23.44.22 Join itcheg [0] (i=4af63885@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-da4bc67017a99494) 23.44.50 # Wifi is very hot though 23.46.51 # yes. We prefer cool players :) 23.49.18 Quit itcheg (Client Quit) 23.50.13 Quit MT (Connection timed out) 23.56.40 # hmm this Onda one isnt bad 23.56.57 Quit MethoS (Remote closed the connection) 23.57.35 Quit ender` (" I just found out what Alt+F4 does.")