--- Log for 07.04.109 Server: lindbohm.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 20 days and 15 hours ago 00.00.15 # It happened on directory change (I use random folder advance), so I think that's at a full rebuffer 00.02.02 Quit gevaerts ("Reconnecting") 00.02.15 Join gevaerts [0] (n=fg@195-144-092-187.dyn.adsl.xs4all.be) 00.02.17 Quit flydutch ("/* empty */") 00.03.23 Join Adam917 [0] (n=Adam917@m7b5e36d0.tmodns.net) 00.04.07 # June 12-14 looks like the best devcon weekend right now 00.04.43 Quit Adam917 (Client Quit) 00.05.17 # yes, but I suspect that some people haven't updated the page yet since the july dates were added 00.05.31 # Unhelpful: what if I just have a 512px-wide line and scale it down to LCD_WIDTH/HEIGHT using a reasonably fast resizing algorithm (even nearest neighbor would suffice) ? 00.05.57 # I would think so too, the July 3-5 is looking like an upcoming alternative 00.06.13 # only one less 00.06.28 # * gevaerts pings markun, pondlife and kugel 00.07.03 # archivator: skipping or repeating values is nearest neighbor. it should mostly work, since *most* columns will have values close to those of their neighbors. 00.08.20 Join Bawitdaba [0] (n=Sphinx@cpe-74-70-40-135.nycap.res.rr.com) 00.08.39 # this is going to be a downscaling operation on all *supported* targets. i think that resize.c's scale_h_area can be adapted to do the job nicely - it's an exact-coverage area scaler, so it can already handle things like 1.6 input columns per outptu. 00.10.19 # you'll need your own version of it, though. the one in resize.c is designed as part of a resizer for whole images, and also is intended for different input/output ranges than you're using. i'd say either chop values from one end, or skip as needed, and we can add a "nice" scaler later. 00.10.31 Join cmwslw [0] (n=cmwslw@c-68-59-238-111.hsd1.tn.comcast.net) 00.11.36 # It's a pity though, having to complicate it that way. I actually handled the other situation (512 points into 240px) rather nicely - 2 points per pixel + an extra point per pixel every 16 points. That's how I'm squeezing 480 points into 320 px now. Too bad the numbers are against me now :) 00.12.41 # Right, I'm chopping at the end now. It works rather nicely, actually, 6.3% is not that big a part.. 00.14.43 Quit archivator () 00.16.54 Join PaulJam_ [0] (n=PaulJam_@vpn-3011.gwdg.de) 00.16.54 Quit cspotcode1 (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 00.17.26 Part cmwslw ("Ex-Chat") 00.19.23 # jhulst: I think the idea is to choose new components for everything, so you have a "blank" framework to fill in parts with. But I think gevaerts invented it, and he's just left for bed... 00.20.42 # linuxstb: Alright, I check with him if I have more questions. Thanks 00.25.52 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 00.27.21 Quit gregzx ("ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 3.0.8/2009032609]") 00.27.45 Quit __lifeless (Remote closed the connection) 00.28.02 Join __lifeless [0] (n=lifeless@90.151.208.19) 00.30.27 Quit wincent (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00.31.38 Nick hd is now known as HellDragon (i=jd@Wikipedia/HellDragon) 00.33.22 Quit PaulJam (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 00.34.04 Quit Lynx_ (" HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- Now with extra fish!") 00.35.22 Join PSPdemon [0] (n=PSPdemon@c-66-177-37-36.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) 00.35.24 Quit gevaerts (Nick collision from services.) 00.35.27 # if i may ask 00.35.36 Join gevaerts [0] (n=fg@rockbox/developer/gevaerts) 00.35.41 # when has usb msc mode on e200 worked? 00.35.48 # *since when 00.36.13 Quit HellDragon (Client Quit) 00.36.46 # PSPdemon, read the MajorChanges wiki page 00.36.47 # at a guess, three or four weeks? you could look at the svn changes. :) 00.37.01 # PSPdemon: In the OF or in Rockbox? 00.37.11 # rockbox 00.37.20 # thanks krazykit and unhelpful 00.38.16 Quit pyro_maniac ("Leaving.") 00.38.16 # i just didnt realize i could use usb in rockbox 00.38.52 Join HellDragon [0] (i=jd@modemcable022.187-203-24.mc.videotron.ca) 00.43.17 Quit HellDragon (Client Quit) 00.43.57 Join J-23_ [0] (n=zelazko@unix.net.pl) 00.44.12 # hey the 3.2 release notes said something about a sleep mode for iPods? 00.44.34 # that like the stock apple fw sleep mode? 00.45.13 # no. 00.45.33 # ;( 00.45.42 # the only mention of "sleep" is putting the LCD to sleep to save battery 00.45.43 Join HellDragon [0] (i=jd@modemcable022.187-203-24.mc.videotron.ca) 00.45.58 # Which is very useful 00.47.04 Quit lymeca (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 00.47.10 Join lymeca [0] (n=lymeca@213-213-141-71.xdsl.is) 00.47.12 # ah yeah i noticed that 00.47.14 # ok 00.47.56 Quit Thundercloud (Remote closed the connection) 00.48.35 Quit J-23 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 00.51.13 Quit planetbeing () 00.51.26 Join planetbeing [0] (n=planetbe@c-71-236-164-204.hsd1.or.comcast.net) 00.52.37 Join fdinel [0] (n=Miranda@modemcable204.232-203-24.mc.videotron.ca) 00.53.09 Quit ender` (" "I want an Internet. Can I have one of those?" -- Spice Girl Mel B., aka Scary Spice during an AOL press conference, point") 00.53.49 # * evilnick would rather have an OFF mode that is genuinely off to save on battery power 00.53.53 Quit fdinel (Client Quit) 00.56.05 Join fdinel [0] (n=Miranda@modemcable204.232-203-24.mc.videotron.ca) 00.57.26 Quit evilnick ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") 00.57.27 # JdGordon|: what's mp3entry temp in audio_current_track needed for? 00.59.14 # thats the static one? 01.06.42 Quit dfkt ("-= SysReset 2.53=- Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn.") 01.14.37 # * Llorean has changed the "Installation" section of the forums 01.15.27 Quit toffe82 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 01.18.53 Quit robin0800 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 01.19.15 # JdGordon|: yea 01.22.44 # JdGordon|: I'm wondering if that one is a) needed (couldn't the data being written to thistrack_id3 too) and b) if the whole part is dead code anyway (id3 is buffered first, so "not yet available" shouldn't be ever true) 01.24.38 Join dreamlayers [0] (n=dreamlay@bas4-windsor12-1279315722.dsl.bell.ca) 01.25.16 Join StealthyXIIGer [0] (n=stealthy@c-68-62-18-116.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) 01.32.30 Quit _j0nas_ (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 01.32.43 Join midgey [0] (n=tjross@71.238.148.140) 01.33.47 Join tchan [0] (n=tchan@lunar-linux/developer/tchan) 01.36.32 # * Unhelpful sees both \opt{ONDIO_PAD} and \opt{ondio} used... i'd imagine these are always defined together, but i guess i should use the _PAD versions when i'm dealing with keymaps? 01.36.41 Join Horschti [0] (n=Horscht@xbmc/user/horscht) 01.37.07 Join ultrasonic [0] (n=manohar@203.199.213.3) 01.37.36 Quit Horscht (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 01.38.17 Quit JdGordon| (Remote closed the connection) 01.38.17 Quit perrikwp (Remote closed the connection) 01.42.31 Join perrikwp [0] (i=18ac0c41@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-49958afa28dc71f3) 01.42.33 Quit PaulJam_ (".") 01.44.03 Quit pixelma (Nick collision from services.) 01.44.05 Join pixelma_ [50] (n=pixelma@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 01.44.16 # pixelma: ok, maybe i do need a little bit of help here. the M3 uses the remote rew/ffwd buttons to scroll the album list... i'm not really sure how i refer to those? 01.44.24 Nick pixelma_ is now known as pixelma (n=pixelma@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 01.44.34 Quit amiconn (Nick collision from services.) 01.44.37 Join amiconn_ [50] (n=jens@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 01.44.56 Nick amiconn_ is now known as amiconn (n=jens@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 01.47.05 Nick fxb is now known as fxb__ (n=felixbru@h1252615.stratoserver.net) 01.48.03 Join JdGordon| [0] (i=836b0070@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-8688799b8cf02912) 01.48.13 # kugel: that block is not dead code and is important 01.48.40 # ok, but is that temp one needed? 01.48.45 # yes 01.48.57 # why is the data not written into thistrack_id3? 01.49.34 # it possibly could be 01.50.50 Quit planetbeing () 01.51.22 # well I tried it, but got weird SIGFPEs in aac 01.51.40 # floating point exception? 01.51.47 # * JdGordon| guesses 01.52.19 # * JdGordon| tuerns out to be correct 01.54.22 # yep 01.54.39 Quit MethoS (Remote closed the connection) 01.55.11 # why are you looking in that area? the only thing that would give is a bit of a gren delta which isnt much to worry about 01.56.46 # I was looking what could cause 10102 01.57.18 # (not that this would cause it, but that piece made me curious anyway) 01.57.48 # What about when switching tracks from the WPS? Could temp_id3 be needed then? 01.57.59 # * JdGordon| gets bitchslapped in email by dreamlayers :) 01.58.03 # ... and enjoys it! 01.59.22 # 10102 is just wierd... 01.59.33 # JdGordon|: I didn't mean to be rude, I was just communicating what I discovered. You enjoyed it, so I guess all is well. 01.59.43 # not at all 02.00.55 # temp_id3 is needed when you are quickly skipping tracks and the info for the current track isnt ready yet. it does make sense that thistrack_id3 could be used... but I would leave that for a while because it might add more instability 02.02.02 # Does anyone have any hints on how to reproduce FS#10102 ? 02.02.18 # seems to happen if you didn't play anything before 02.02.34 # yeah, it only happens the first track of a boot... 02.02.42 # and only on single screen targets 02.02.51 # codec shouldnt make a difference 02.02.52 # really? 02.03.26 Quit BlakeJohnson86 (Remote closed the connection) 02.03.35 # seems so 02.03.49 # I'm guessing an init isnt done correclty somewhere 02.03.56 # ill investigate tonight properly 02.04.11 # funny how noone picked it up during testing though :p 02.04.45 Quit kugel ("ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 3.0.8/2009032609]") 02.04.51 Join jordan` [0] (n=jordan@jem75-10-88-182-222-63.fbx.proxad.net) 02.04.56 # JdGordon|: I still can't reproduce it. Either it's extremely rare or I lack some necessary condition. 02.05.07 # which target? 02.05.37 Quit tvelocity (Remote closed the connection) 02.06.00 # 5G 30GB iPod. I also tried the 5G sim, the e200 sim, the V2 Recorder sim, and V2 Recorder. 02.07.40 # it really doesnt sound liekly... but.. which theme? 02.07.55 # Default themes on all. 02.08.18 # Sorry, I mean Cabbie v2, not the builtin. 02.08.32 # how are you starting playback? from the file browser choose the first track with shuffle off 02.08.37 # cabbiev2==default 02.08.44 # hardcoded is the real default 02.11.08 # Yeah, that's what I'm doing. I just tried with rockbox_default (hardcoded) theme, and the progress bar still works. 02.13.27 # maybe it really is a non issue then and the bandaid fix in the task is good enough 02.14.36 Join rwcr_ [0] (n=oremanj@xenon.get-linux.org) 02.15.22 Quit rwcr (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 02.15.24 # home time... back in a bit.. 02.15.27 Quit JdGordon| ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") 02.16.09 Join itcheg [0] (i=62db4767@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-82b3dbac2a2a8e44) 02.16.28 Nick rwcr_ is now known as rwcr (n=oremanj@xenon.get-linux.org) 02.22.54 Join BlakeJohnson86 [0] (n=bjohnson@c-24-118-162-123.hsd1.mn.comcast.net) 02.25.56 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 02.30.53 Quit itcheg ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") 02.33.35 Join Rob2223 [0] (n=Miranda@p4FDCDAF9.dip.t-dialin.net) 02.33.35 Quit Rob2222 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 02.33.49 Join Horscht86 [0] (n=Horscht@p4FD4F782.dip.t-dialin.net) 02.34.05 Join JdGordon_ [0] (n=jonno@rockbox/developer/JdGordon) 02.48.39 Join JdGordon| [0] (i=62cbfc4e@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-73c2c9c15eb97385) 02.59.15 Join AndyIL [0] (i=AndyI@212.14.205.32) 03.01.39 Quit Horschti (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 03.01.56 Quit dreamlayers ("Back later") 03.12.09 Quit AndyI (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 03.13.27 Join evilnick [0] (n=evilnick@pool-173-52-140-21.nycmny.east.verizon.net) 03.17.33 Join BHSPitMonkey [0] (n=stephen@unaffiliated/bhspitmonkey) 03.17.38 Join planetbeing [0] (n=planetbe@nmd.mcd18234.sea.wayport.net) 03.18.50 Join wangxiang [0] (n=wangxian@210.73.4.120) 03.19.16 Part Zharf 03.21.52 Quit JdGordon| ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") 03.30.00 Quit blithe ("Lost terminal") 03.30.11 Join blithe [0] (n=blithe@blakesmith.me) 03.36.05 Quit m0nik3r5 ("leaving") 03.39.36 Join JdGordon| [0] (i=62cbfc4e@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-2fd13bd896f85973) 03.51.16 Join Strife89 [0] (n=nds@204.116.244.200) 03.53.47 Quit yosafbridge ("Coyote finally caught me") 03.55.34 Quit wangxiang () 03.56.59 Join yosafbridge [0] (n=yosafbri@ludios.net) 03.59.43 Quit Strife89 ("Will return.") 04.01.07 Join |ahmina| [0] (n=lymeca@213-213-141-71.xdsl.is) 04.01.28 Quit planetbeing () 04.02.01 Join kkurbjun [0] (n=kkurbjun@c-24-9-80-197.hsd1.co.comcast.net) 04.03.26 Quit lymeca (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 04.14.32 Join planetbeing [0] (n=planetbe@host-245-194.pubnet.pdx.edu) 04.15.47 Quit planetbeing (Client Quit) 04.17.57 Join planetbeing [0] (n=planetbe@host-245-194.pubnet.pdx.edu) 04.20.25 Quit miepchen^schlaf (Read error: 101 (Network is unreachable)) 04.21.49 # :/ 04.21.55 Join wangxiang [0] (n=wangxian@203.86.76.219) 04.23.50 # FS#10104 updates the manual for FS#9992. Pixelma has had good results on target with broken PF keys, I'm going to try to sim-test the other supported targets, and then commit the two. Should they go in as one change, so that the manual changes at the same time as the behavior? 04.26.00 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 04.27.19 # it doesnt really matter 04.33.57 # the manual update doesn't properly cover M3... i can't seem to find any way to get the remote buttons that it uses into the manual. 04.38.27 Join dreamlayers [0] (n=dreamlay@bas4-windsor12-1279315722.dsl.bell.ca) 04.42.23 # the M3 doesnt have a screen... do pf would be pretty useless... no? 04.43.07 # Doesn't the remote have a screen? 04.43.26 # Unhelpful: IIUC the whole M3 manual is problematic mostly because of that. 04.43.53 # Llorean: *only* the remote has a screen. i couldn't find any other reference to remote buttons in the manual... 04.44.39 # the sim also has usability problems due to that - the M3 remote buttons aren't mapped in the sim, and PLA maps almost all actions to them :/ 04.52.01 Join midijunkie [0] (n=Miranda@pD954742F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 04.52.32 Quit planetbeing (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 04.53.50 Quit ultrasonic (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 04.53.57 Quit midijunkie (Client Quit) 05.03.17 Quit franky (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 05.03.56 Join cornwall [0] (n=cornwall@nateres201.tel.miami.edu) 05.04.27 # Hello, Llorean, thanks for your help yesterday 05.04.49 # You said that multiple CDs were a different case entirely. Should Rockbox sort by CD automatically? 05.04.56 Join AlHaz [0] (n=alhaz@alhaz.fttp.xmission.com) 05.07.07 # Evening. Is #define BATTERY_CAPACITY_MIN the only place i need to touch to change the list of battery capacities listed in the ui? Yes I know it's only used to predict runtime. 05.07.25 # It just irks me that the smallest mAh i can select on a gigabeat F is larger than the largest battery that fits 05.10.34 Join saratoga [0] (n=9803c6dd@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-3d4ec740bd16a18c) 05.11.14 # AlHaz: yes, just change BATTERY_CAPACITY_MIN 05.11.39 # OK, thanks. I'll submit a patch. 05.12.54 # AlHaz: the correct size is 830mah? 05.14.48 # saratoga: I think the stock battery is 700mah but it doesn't actually say on it what it is 05.15.00 # the wiki says 830mah 05.15.05 # ah, that could be it then 05.15.28 # i'll just commit it now 05.15.33 # cameron sino's replacement is 1000mAh and of course the 4g ipod battery is even bigger 05.15.35 # ok 05.16.13 # JdGordon_: How's this: audio_play_start() ->Q_AUDIO_TRACK_CHANGED -> audio_finalise_track_change() -> PLAYBACK_EVENT_TRACK_CHANGE. This chain of events doesn't seem to depend on metadata being available, and so the event might happen too soon. 05.16.20 # AlHaz: does run time estimation work correctly right now? 05.16.57 # dreamlayers: which is that for? 05.16.58 # saratoga: Dunno actually. I only ran batterybench on one of them, and shortly afterward the battery started trying to become a sphere, so i replaced it 05.17.15 # so I don't have enough data points to know for sure 05.17.32 # and i don't know if it's expected to work on the gigabeat F 05.17.32 # i'll check 05.18.12 # dreamlayers: http://nicolas.pennequin.free.fr/rockbox/audio_skip.pdf is nico's writeup of how track skip works 05.18.25 # I just found it odd that i have the full range of options on the S and not on the F 05.18.25 # JdGordon_: That's a theoretical way to trigger the progress bar bug. In any case I think the event has to come too soon. 05.18.54 # JdGordon_: I'm talking about the start of playback. 05.19.18 # seems we do about 18 hours for a new battery, which gives us a draw of 46mA 05.19.37 # * JdGordon_ has been watching tv so is going to take a sec to get brain into gear :p 05.19.40 # can anyone give some suggestion to my code? thanks 05.19.45 # http://pastebin.com/m2a0b8498 05.20.16 # saratoga: makes sense to me. The one i ran batterybench on got about 16 and a half hours out of the stock battery, which was obviously kinda old 05.20.26 # wangxiang: which task was this for? the fake codec? 05.21.31 # While I'm here, anyone interested in having copies of the v1.1 v1.2 and v1.3 gigabeat S OF? 05.22.27 # wangxiang: I think pcm_get_more is called from an interrupt service routine, and so it should not call rb->read. 05.23.12 # dreamlayers: you are correct... definetly being called too early there 05.23.15 # no, play a sound, i wrote it yesterday 05.23.30 # anyone remember where the current constant is defined? 05.25.14 # saratoga: BATTERY_CAPACITY_MIN is in config-*.h for the target 05.25.17 # can you give me some suggestion to improve? 05.26.33 Join gregorovius [0] (n=diego@190.55.80.21) 05.27.05 Quit gregorovius (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 05.28.33 # dreamlayers: I mean the current [in mA] not the capacity [in mah] 05.30.55 Join DC1 [0] (n=dc1@70.107.164.94) 05.33.06 # wangxiang: The simplest solution is to read data into the buffer first and then play it. 05.33.10 # oh we don't actually define it for the gigabeat 05.33.18 # probably why i couldn't find it . . . 05.35.23 # * dreamlayers didn't realize the estimated runtime was actually based on a caluclation of how much current is being used. 05.35.38 # yeah thats why it doesn't work very well 05.35.46 Quit DC1 (Client Quit) 05.35.52 # heh 05.36.02 # The battery life on the F is actually pretty good 05.36.09 # theres no recording on the F right? 05.36.26 # there's theoretical recording through the docking port 05.36.30 # i don't think anyone has done it 05.37.24 # yes, i wonder if the buffer is not big enough 05.37.48 # as you know, memory is limited 05.39.02 # for rockbox 05.40.34 # my first code is to read data to a large buffer and play it 05.42.25 # i tried to improve it using the plugin_api, though the improved code has some problems 05.42.32 Quit Horscht86 ("Verlassend") 05.45.47 Quit midgey () 05.55.39 # AlHaz: be sure to let me know if I broke anything 05.56.02 # saratoga: OK. I guess i'll re-up my svn and install new on my F40 05.56.45 # wangxiang: was that for the fake codec task? 05.58.38 # Thanks 05.59.32 # dreamlayers: sorry, was on the phone... any ideas how to fix the problem? 06.00.07 # no, for gsoc task 06.00.33 # yeah, no sorry, I thought you had a different gsoc task... 06.02.43 Join midgey [0] (n=tjross@71.238.148.140) 06.03.50 Quit fdinel ("Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org") 06.05.32 # JdGordon_: How about sending Q_AUDIO_TRACK_CHANGED in audio_finish_load_track, if start_play is true? 06.06.26 # fine, i just want to improve the code 06.08.21 # dreamlayers: that will send off the event twice on the firts track then? 06.13.14 Quit cornwall ("Leaving") 06.13.52 # Doh? now 830mah is the only option 06.14.52 # 1000mAh and 1200mAh batteries are available 06.15.13 # JdGordon_: audio_finish_load_track is only called when the ID3 handle is loaded, so start_play_g should only be true there once. Oh, and I meant move the queue_post, not copy it. 06.16.53 # saratoga: BATTERY_CAPACITY_MAX should probably be 1200mAh 06.18.53 # on most targets, the arbitrary limit seems to be 2500mAh. Which obviously won't generally fit in these, but i suppose someone could go nuts and shove a 2200mAh h120 battery and a 20gb drive into an F40. 06.22.00 # wangxiang: You can read data into the buffer in your main code and have pcm_get_more just submit data from the buffer. That way you could minimize memory use. I'm not sure if you have to minimize memory use in your qualification task; for that you need to ask someone else. 06.22.47 Quit agaffney (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 06.23.18 Join agaffney [0] (n=agaffney@gentoo/developer/agaffney) 06.23.44 # ok thanks dreamlyaer 06.26.02 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 06.26.20 Quit wangxiang ("Leaving") 06.30.20 Quit intrados (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 06.31.15 Join intrados [0] (n=intrados@cpe-71-67-129-220.woh.res.rr.com) 06.32.35 Quit intrados (SendQ exceeded) 06.33.44 Quit saratoga ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 06.34.10 Join intrados [0] (n=intrados@cpe-71-67-129-220.woh.res.rr.com) 06.40.27 # JdGordon_: Actually, the "TODO: Superfluos buffering call?" code in audio_load_track should finish loading the first track's metadata. 07.00.54 Join planetbeing [0] (n=planetbe@c-71-236-164-204.hsd1.or.comcast.net) 07.02.30 # JdGordon_: I was wondering why I was getting totally blank information for the current track for a bit while skipping back at one place. That's because of the FIXME in audio_check_new_track, which overwrote the ID3 data with zeros. 07.03.27 # thats probably expected... I still dont understand why its being writen back at all 07.04.08 # JdGordon_: I don't know if those "unbuffer callbacks" exist still. 07.04.57 # I would guess they are still... but I cant see any reason to ever update the id3 info on the buffer 07.05.04 Quit AlHaz ("Client exiting") 07.06.08 # hmm.. maybe not 07.10.01 # JdGordon_: Check out track_unbuffer_callback in http://svn.rockbox.org/viewvc.cgi/trunk/apps/playback.c?r1=16520&r2=16546 07.10.26 # just looking at that :) 07.14.02 # JdGordon_: tagtree.c used the unbuffer event, and now it's PLAYBACK_EVENT_TRACK_FINISH. That's sent in audio_check_new_track just before thistrack_id3 is cleared. 07.15.40 Quit BHSPitMonkey ("Ex-Chat") 07.15.50 Join jeffdameth [0] (n=jeff@dyndsl-095-033-115-010.ewe-ip-backbone.de) 07.16.00 # JdGordon_: That's for tagtree runtimedb gathering, eg. incrementing the playcount. Everything should work, and the FIXME block can be removed. 07.16.56 # ok, good 07.16.59 # wanna do it? 07.17.16 # ok 07.20.47 Join l403 [0] (n=l@85.132.159.239) 07.21.03 # anyway... even if the track_changed event gets shot too early, the wps should still update correctly *unless* the thistrack_id3 pointer is changed between the audio_current_Track() calls (which I dont tihnk it should) 07.21.20 # which leads me to think it does get flipped before the first track starts 07.21.53 # it *shouldnt* switch after the TRACK_CHANGED event is fired though untill the next track 07.22.10 # (shouldnt here meaning what I tihnk... not what the code does) 07.23.06 # * JdGordon_ wants to print off playback.c so he can see the whole thing without scrolling up and down the whole time 07.23.23 # When id3 data is not available, temp_id3 would be returned. 07.24.49 Quit intrados (Remote closed the connection) 07.26.02 # yes, but what happens is the moment the wps loads it calls audio_current_track() can gets temp_id3 (which is fine.. it shows the path with no tags)... then the TRACK_CHANGED event happens and thistrack_id3 gets (or shold get) returned 07.27.22 Quit planetbeing () 07.27.53 # A problem could only occur if the event arrived early, before id3 data was available. 07.28.49 Join intrados [0] (n=intrados@cpe-71-67-129-220.woh.res.rr.com) 07.29.27 Nick fxb__ is now known as fxb (n=felixbru@h1252615.stratoserver.net) 07.30.04 Quit intrados (SendQ exceeded) 07.30.09 Nick fxb is now known as fxb__ (n=felixbru@h1252615.stratoserver.net) 07.30.39 Quit jeffdameth1 (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 07.32.49 Join intrados [0] (n=intrados@cpe-71-67-129-220.woh.res.rr.com) 07.33.09 Quit JdGordon| ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") 07.33.24 # * JdGordon_ throws sharp pointy objects at the playback<->playlist interactions 07.35.46 # playback<->buffering interaction seems even more complex 07.36.23 # yeah, but its cleaner at least 07.36.48 # that interaction actually had some thought out desin done before coding 07.38.24 Quit intrados (Remote closed the connection) 07.39.00 # I like this /* Officially playing*/ comment in audio_play_start... at this point we are not really near playing yet 07.39.38 Join intrados [0] (n=intrados@cpe-71-67-129-220.woh.res.rr.com) 07.40.08 # should Q_AUDIO_TRACK_CHANGED even be in audio_play_start()? (I think this is where you were 30min ago... I'm playing catch up) 07.40.57 # Right, I was saying that it should be moved later, to where you know for sure that id3 data for the first track is available. 07.42.35 # i.e in the if(start_play) block around line 1751? 07.44.34 # apparently no 07.45.13 Quit intrados (Remote closed the connection) 07.46.43 # It seems like that should work. On the first track, I expect track_widx == track_ridx, and the bufgetid3 above would ensure that the id3 data is available if possible. 07.51.05 # hmm... no, even with it there (and removed from audio_play_start(), the event is getting fired off correctly but wps still doesnt get updated 07.51.33 Join cspotcode [0] (n=bradla@starmie-25.dynamic.rpi.edu) 07.51.43 # I think we need to add a yield in that supposedly superfluous buffering call.. 07.51.52 # or more correctly, a blocking buffer call 07.52.42 # or not :< 07.53.01 # It seems like bufgetid3 willl wait until data is available. 07.53.39 # It calls bufgetdata, and bufgetdata waits. 07.54.20 Join planetbeing [0] (n=planetbe@c-71-236-164-204.hsd1.or.comcast.net) 07.54.51 # I need to go to sleep. I will continue working on this tomorrow. 07.55.00 Quit dreamlayers ("Goodnight") 07.55.38 # but.. but... 07.56.23 Join intrados [0] (n=intrados@cpe-71-67-129-220.woh.res.rr.com) 07.57.18 Quit midgey () 07.57.39 Quit intrados (SendQ exceeded) 07.58.59 Join intrados [0] (n=intrados@cpe-71-67-129-220.woh.res.rr.com) 07.59.55 Quit intrados (SendQ exceeded) 08.01.05 Join intrados [0] (n=intrados@cpe-71-67-129-220.woh.res.rr.com) 08.02.01 Join Rob2222 [0] (n=Miranda@p4FDCD626.dip.t-dialin.net) 08.07.02 Join robin0800 [0] (n=quassel@cpc3-brig8-0-0-cust436.brig.cable.ntl.com) 08.20.21 Quit Rob2223 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 08.21.25 Quit Seed ("cu, Andre") 08.22.07 # Unhelpful: there is no M3 manual at all yet 08.23.04 Join Zagor [242] (n=bjorn@rockbox/developer/Zagor) 08.24.14 Join ender` [0] (i=krneki@foo.eternallybored.org) 08.25.25 Join petur [50] (n=petur@rockbox/developer/petur) 08.26.05 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 08.27.41 # and the remotes also aren't covered in the manual - last DevCon we dedided on how it could look, I started but then couldn't find a good way how to "dynamically" give a button table a 3rd column (lacking a bit higher level LaTeX knowledge here) 08.31.03 Join franky [0] (n=franky@f053007038.adsl.alicedsl.de) 08.34.04 Join einhirn [0] (n=Miranda@p4FC62CEB.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 08.37.59 # Unhelpful: and yes, I also prefer *_PAD when dealing with keymaps and if possible avoid using the playername directly in an \opt. I prefer using a specific feature there because that could be nice if a future target has the same, so I would only use it for more or less unique things 08.40.20 Quit einhirn (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 08.41.28 # I guess the same rule applies to the rest of the code, not only the manual 08.43.03 Join PaulJam [0] (i=PaulJam_@vpn-3017.gwdg.de) 08.48.58 Join B4gder [241] (n=daniel@rockbox/developer/bagder) 08.51.51 Join m4ndril [0] (n=martin@r190-135-139-250.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy) 08.52.11 # hi 08.52.39 # im creating a theme for the sansa.. and need to know something in the manual is not well documented 08.53.18 # i have something like this on wps: %xl|V|vol.bmp|0|0|9| where vol.bmp is my composed image of all the volumes level 08.53.47 # and the order is showing wrong? 08.53.53 # no... 08.53.57 # the position! 08.54.07 # where were you expecting it? 08.54.13 # according to the manual 08.54.26 # the first 2 have to be x and y 08.54.34 # and i use 0,0 08.54.36 # do you have the %xd in viewport? 08.54.39 Join einhirn [0] (n=Miranda@bsod.rz.tu-clausthal.de) 08.54.49 # and its showing on the center 08.54.51 # xD 08.54.54 # yes, they are relative to the viewport the image is drawn in 08.55.02 # and could you please put one thought on one line, not three? 08.55.02 # hmm 08.55.24 # sorry im used to IM on MSN =( 08.55.43 # and where can i find the viewport specifications ? 08.56.16 # pixelma: just looking at the manual now.. yeah, can you add a not to "b.13. images" saying the coordinates are relative to the viewport the image is displayed in? 08.56.16 # im using the BlacknBlueGlass theme as a base... 08.56.45 # viewports arent in the manual?! 08.56.57 # just wanted to check - it is explained on CustomWPS 08.57.14 # http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/CustomWPS#Viewports 08.57.26 # im reading there :) 08.57.40 # pixelma: yeah, but didnt we want to either have all the info in the wiki or manual? not both? 08.58.20 # reverse the order there... IIRC we wanted to move static info out of the wiki and into the manual? 08.58.29 # yes, I'll try to put it in the manual, just wanted to tell wheere one could find the info right now 08.59.29 # :D 08.59.40 # i will share my theme when its done 08.59.45 Join Rob2223 [0] (n=Miranda@p4FDCC3BC.dip.t-dialin.net) 09.00.48 # i have lots of viewports in my wps file 09.01.06 # how do i know wich one corresponds to the volume image ? =( 09.01.27 Join wangxiang [0] (n=wangxian@203.86.76.219) 09.01.58 # JdGordon_: it was generaly agreed on putting static info in the manual. If I remember correctly the CustomWPS wiki page was deemed useful though as it is easier to change if WPS syntax changes. I'm not saying it can't be in both 09.03.05 Join carb0n [0] (n=chatzill@cpe-76-171-164-5.socal.res.rr.com) 09.03.46 Quit Zagor (Remote closed the connection) 09.03.56 # i found it trying XDDDDd 09.03.57 # lol 09.04.10 # m4ndril: last note under the "images" headline on CustomWPS - it is important where the corrseponding %xd is 09.05.00 # ty 09.06.26 # the theme is getting very cool :D 09.06.37 # i will let you know when is done 09.08.36 Quit perrikwp ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") 09.08.54 Quit DataGhost (Nick collision from services.) 09.08.57 Join perrikwp [0] (i=18ac0c41@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-b6374a3c6a899938) 09.09.02 Join DataGhost [0] (i=dataghos@unaffiliated/dataghost) 09.13.00 Join Zagor [242] (n=bjorn@rockbox/developer/Zagor) 09.14.49 Part m4ndril 09.16.33 Join Thundercloud [0] (i=thunderc@persistence.flat.devzero.co.uk) 09.17.28 Quit Rob2222 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 09.18.10 Quit StealthyXIIGer (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 09.20.17 Quit l403 (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 09.28.01 Quit carb0n ("ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 3.0.8/2009032609]") 09.35.57 Quit robin0800 (Remote closed the connection) 09.43.02 Join m4ndril [0] (n=martin@r190-135-139-250.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy) 09.43.36 # need some help here with the view port on the wps configs 09.44.03 # im fed up of the volume thing... i cant make it show the right piece of image 09.45.49 # what exactly is the problem? could you post the WPS code somewhere (pastebin or something like that) 09.46.24 # sure 09.46.27 # i will... 09.47.23 # http://pastebin.com/m3e3f2b03 09.48.38 # look the problem is with vol.bmp i have a image with multiple volume levels.. i can upload to imageshack if you want... and the thing is cant find were to specify the with of the part of the image that it has to show and the config thing for the amount of volume 09.49.58 Quit Thundercloud (Remote closed the connection) 09.50.15 # this is my vol but in bmp... http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/7782/vol.png 09.52.30 # PaulJam: are you there ? 09.52.44 # according to the WPS code the image should consist of 9 "subimages", so it is split into 9 parts and not into 5. 09.52.57 # i tryed 5 09.53.03 # and it throughs error 09.53.17 # invalid token 09.53.21 # or something like that 09.53.35 # i want to know were to specify the height of the split !!! 09.53.39 # you need to modyfy the %pv line also, because it tries to load more than 5 images 09.53.40 # that should be the key 09.54.35 # ohh i see 09.54.49 # so if the image has only 5 subimages, then you can only use %xdVa to %xdVe and not %xdVd and up) 09.55.11 # f xD 09.55.18 # yes 09.55.18 # i delete the others... 09.55.26 # as you said 09.55.35 # were is the specification 09.55.38 # for the height 09.55.40 # of the splits 09.55.49 # do you know that ? 09.56.17 # well it is calculated from the height of the bmp and the number of images in the bmp 09.56.36 # m4ndril, *please* try to keep to one line of text at a time 09.57.00 # oh 09.57.02 # i see 09.57.06 # :) 09.57.11 # not funny 09.57.27 # and how it maps the amount of volume to each image ? 09.57.44 # GodEater: sorry dudde 09.59.25 # here is the behaviour if the %pv tag explained: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/CustomWPS#Playlist_Song_Info 09.59.56 # thank you paul :) 10.00.47 Quit planetbeing () 10.00.50 # between mute and 0dB the images should be equally disributed. 10.03.00 Quit B4gder ("It is time to say moo") 10.03.33 # its now working :D 10.04.08 # the only thing is not.. is the volume response, for a lower volume.. it changes for a high and mid.. but not for low 10.05.52 # its working fine now 10.05.58 # i solve the problem 10.06.02 # thank you so much 10.06.06 # =) 10.06.42 # you're welcome 10.07.14 Part m4ndril 10.07.32 Join robin0800 [0] (n=quassel@cpc3-brig8-0-0-cust436.brig.cable.ntl.com) 10.09.17 Join jaykay [0] (n=chatzill@p579E769E.dip.t-dialin.net) 10.17.44 # linuxstb : quick note, I've finished the task - with seeking support. ;) 10.18.46 Join pyro_maniac [0] (i=foobar@p57BB961B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 10.19.20 # linuxstb : I've added a note to the app with the link. it deals with files with the extension .mtf 10.19.45 # s/note/comment 10.26.08 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 10.27.50 Join dfkt [0] (n=dfkt@unaffiliated/dfkt) 10.27.59 Join B4gder [241] (n=daniel@rockbox/developer/bagder) 10.31.26 # MT: Your patch doesn't include mtf.c 10.31.55 # Also, have you tested it on a real device? That can sometimes show bugs not visible in the sim. 10.32.46 Join LinusN [0] (n=linus@rockbox/developer/LinusN) 10.34.57 # linuxstb : what could be the reason for it not to contain mtf.c ? I used svn diff -u -r /rockbox/apps > patch 10.35.16 # didn't svn add the new file? 10.36.02 # no it's not in the patch.. 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How's that for a promise! 13.43.47 # what does "Stripping trailing CRs from patch" mean? 13.44.05 # that it stripped trailing CRs from the patch! 13.44.32 Join Lss__ [0] (i=Lss@119.234.171.31) 13.44.32 # CR == carriage return 13.44.48 # jaykay: carriage return - look up dos vs windows line endings 13.45.00 Nick Lss__ is now known as Lss (i=Lss@119.234.171.31) 13.45.17 # er, I mean unix vs windows of course :) 13.46.09 Nick J-23_ is now known as J-23 (n=zelazko@unix.net.pl) 13.46.21 # is there any easy way to split a patch? i copied some parts out of it and every single hunk fails 13.47.08 # wait 13.47.26 # it works! wow... 13.49.30 # only the "stripping trailing..." remains... i don't understand it, some hunks look exactly like the ones from the original patch, and the original patch doesn't give this message 13.49.49 # What editor are you using? 13.50.06 # As I say - windows vs unix line endings 13.50.10 Quit Riku (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 13.50.32 # notepad++ 13.51.04 Quit Lss () 13.51.33 # jaykay: And does it have an option somewhere for lin endings? 13.52.08 # it does have a option "convert to unix 13.52.11 # that worked 13.52.38 # sounds good to me - you want unix line endings 13.52.43 # the last one: what does "hunk 2 succeded with fuzz 2" mean? 13.53.16 # That the bit to be patched wasn't found exactly where the poatch said it would, but it was found and patched succesfully anyway 13.57.37 # BigBambi: http://pastebin.com/m2a67b842 13.57.50 # i'll post it in the tracker when the second patch is ready 13.59.11 Join xwang [0] (n=glorykni@210.73.4.120) 14.00.40 Join Hittudiv [0] (n=d2d4a065@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-52912810bc19d6b7) 14.01.08 # jaykay: most of it looks fine - couple of questions though :) 14.01.11 # hi markun i'm wangxiang. 14.01.39 # xwang: hi :) 14.01.53 # you will have your interview later today, right? 14.02.03 # yes, UTC 15:00 14.02.28 # what should i do in the interview? 14.02.36 # need mic? or speaking? 14.02.41 # no. Just irc 14.02.43 # no, just chatting on IRC 14.03.09 # just chatting? should i do some coding? 14.03.18 # or testing? 14.03.42 # line 44 - I think we should hqve q note qbout firewire sqying something like "Firewire is not directly supported in Rockbox. If you connect your \dap{} via firewire, it will automatically reboot to the original firmware." 14.03.50 # xwang: just a few questions 14.04.31 # hi 14.04.59 # xwang: Hi :) 14.05.15 # xwang: I meant it'll just be a few questions in the interview, not now :) 14.05.31 # a few technique questions? three hours later? 14.05.37 # the line 44 biut above was @ jaykay incidently 14.06.19 # jaykay: also, line 137 I'd have a comma after the first damage 14.06.41 Quit robin0800 (Remote closed the connection) 14.07.30 # jaykay: last one - around line 55-59, you have changed the position of a } - any reason? 14.08.02 # BigBambi: line 44 - but "before starting is the wrong place for that... 14.08.08 # line 137: i'll add that 14.08.18 # xwang: we may ask some technical questions, but we're not planning on an exam or something like that :) No need to prepare lots of stuff 14.09.03 # jaykay: Can you install Rockbox via firewire? 14.09.49 # line 55: before the warning was a note, so the warning is in the note - no need for that 14.09.56 # I imqgine so qs don't the eqrly ipods only hqve firewire? 14.10.40 # BigBambi: i don't know... but it should be possible because its only copying files 14.10.45 # ok thanks 14.11.15 # jaykay: Is it? 14.11.23 # jaykay: ipodpatcher requires raw disk access 14.13.47 Join Lss [0] (n=Lss@cm246.delta91.maxonline.com.sg) 14.14.23 Quit xwang () 14.15.30 # ok a question to all here... is it possible to use ipodpatcher with firewire? 14.16.12 # jaykay: I guess it must be, as you can install on early ipods and afaik early ipods only have firewire 14.18.49 Join dfkt_ [0] (n=dfkt@chello062178002170.1.11.univie.teleweb.at) 14.18.56 Part evilnick 14.19.59 Quit rwong (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 14.20.08 Join rwong [0] (n=ricky@www.roflwaffle.com) 14.23.00 Quit |ahmina| (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 14.26.10 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 14.30.12 # jaykay: Why bother changing "the buttons on the \dap{}" with "the \daps{} buttons" ? And why remove "If all has gone well, " in the ipod install chapter? 14.30.49 # i thought the fist one looks niver 14.31.33 # and the "if all has gone well" sound like "there is a chance of 20% that it worked. if it worked, continue, if not, please try again" 14.31.50 # but thats just my opinion... 14.31.54 # not really, it is just an expression 14.32.09 # It's meant to mean "If you have done what you've been told" 14.32.51 # well, "you should see some..." means the same 14.33.05 Join LambdaCalculus37 [0] (n=44a04329@rockbox/staff/LambdaCalculus37) 14.34.21 # * linuxstb thinks he wrote that original text, so is biased 14.34.29 Quit DataGhost (Nick collision from services.) 14.34.37 Join DataGhost [0] (i=dataghos@unaffiliated/dataghost) 14.35.06 # I'm not particularly bothered, but I don't see the point in changing things for the sake of it 14.35.48 # That's my feeling too - these changes don't seem to clarify anything that needs clarifying. 14.36.08 Quit dfkt (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 14.37.09 # then leave that out... i just thought the "if all has gone well" means that the chance of success is pretty small 14.37.25 # why would it mean that? 14.37.29 # jaykay: No, it means the opposite 14.37.36 # jaykay: It means it should go well 14.37.57 # but there is the chance that someone could cock it up, i.e. it isn't foolproof 14.56.33 Quit B4gder ("It is time to say moo") 15.01.18 Join funman [0] (i=56dafbc7@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-8bea3644a0798681) 15.03.01 # hello 15.04.39 Join kushalone [0] (n=kushal@12.169.180.178) 15.07.19 Quit parafin ("So long and thanks for all the fish") 15.08.57 Quit gartral ("Leaving.") 15.12.24 Join parafin [0] (i=parafin@paraf.in) 15.19.11 # Hey funman! 15.21.29 Join evilnick_7 [0] (i=0c140464@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-2ef647ec3af046e6) 15.25.12 Join itcheg [0] (i=41d59de2@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-fe72d866c907cc3d) 15.25.25 Join archivator [0] (n=archivat@77.70.28.57) 15.45.22 # how important is it that bmp files don't have the executable flag set? 15.45.52 # just wondering if it's worth an own commit 15.47.03 # pixelma: I don't think it's important, but it's nice to be tidy.... 15.47.38 # alright, maybe I'll find some more 15.49.12 Join wangxiang [0] (n=wangxian@210.73.4.120) 15.51.35 # Almost all options have context menus, right? How hard would it be to steal a short description of the setting from the manual and add it in that context menu (under "View help" perhaps)? That should lower the learning curve significantly.. 15.53.59 Quit wangxiang () 15.54.33 Join wangxiang [0] (n=wangxian@210.73.4.120) 15.55.39 # Hi Frank It will be 1 hour for the interview? 15.56.05 Quit funman ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") 15.57.48 Nick dfkt_ is now known as dfkt (n=dfkt@chello062178002170.1.11.univie.teleweb.at) 15.59.33 # wangxiang: yes 15.59.51 # eh, wait, I thought you asked if it will be in 1 hour :) 16.00.09 # * markun better lets gevaerts answer 16.00.46 # i'll wait on the IRC 16.00.48 # both actually :) It will be in about an hour, and it usually takes between half an hour and an hour 16.06.47 # excuse my inquisitiveness but what is this interview for? 16.07.11 # GSOC 16.07.23 # http://www.mapleshaderecords.com/audioproducts/isobasecradle.php < can you say ridiculous? 16.07.34 # oops wrong channel 16.07.53 # hmm, do property changes of bmp files don't trigger a rebuild? 16.08.14 # s/don't/not 16.09.17 # fine by me though :) 16.12.15 Quit jon-kha (Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)) 16.12.44 Quit midgey () 16.13.01 Quit midijunkie (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 16.19.28 Quit kushalone ("This computer has gone to sleep. 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17.46.20 # you are right there 17.46.33 # sucks 17.46.36 # :D 17.46.36 # yes, as stated on www.rockbox.org 17.47.09 # does www.rockbox.org really state that 'it sucks' ? 17.47.12 # will there be any update or coming version? 17.47.31 # celsin: We would welcome a volunteer to make it work though - no-one has done that so far... 17.47.39 # celsin: Sure, if interested owners work on it 17.47.52 # celsin: See www.rockbox.org/wiki/NewPort 17.48.38 # well im not really into those software things 17.49.22 # celsin: And that's why there is no port - nobody that wants it is willing to do it 17.49.40 # would do so if i would know how to :p 17.49.51 # or even try in fact - given the encrypted firmware etc., ... 17.50.18 # alright, thanks anyways 17.50.26 # celsin: sure - I'm just saying that whilst nobody actually does the work and everyone just says it'd be nice, nothing will happen 17.50.49 Quit celsin () 17.51.04 Join kushal_12_27_200 [0] (n=kushal@12.169.180.178) 17.51.21 # * linuxstb thinks "would do so if i would know how to :p" sums up most peoples' opinions about porting to the new ipods... 18.02.08 Join gregsparc [0] (n=chatzill@208.65.91.90) 18.04.03 # * PSPdemon agrees with linuxstb 18.04.09 # but it just seems thats with anything :/ 18.04.56 # psp scene suffers from too many new people complaining about how emulation isnt perfect 18.04.57 # -_- 18.07.12 Quit perrikwp ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") 18.08.24 Join domonoky [0] (n=Domonoky@rockbox/developer/domonoky) 18.09.33 Quit wangxiang () 18.09.52 Join wangxiang [0] (n=wangxian@210.73.4.120) 18.10.01 # PSPdemon: Putting it mildly, there's no satisfying anyone. 18.10.18 # well im content! :D 18.10.36 # but then again ive been in the scene since the start....so i remember when things like N64 emulation were a dream ;) 18.11.05 # * evilnick_7 asks PSPdemon to step into #rockbox-community as he has a coupla questions on the PSP scene 18.11.16 Part Lez 18.11.16 # ...lol... 18.13.33 Join barrywardell [0] (n=barry@barry-workstation.ucd.ie) 18.15.02 # /media/study/backup/rockbox-20598/tools/version.sh: 82: svnversion: not found this message comes whenever i try to compile from source.. is it some sort of error? 18.15.11 # what is svn version? 18.19.23 Join MethoS [0] (n=lem@dyndsl-085-016-167-118.ewe-ip-backbone.de) 18.19.32 # Hittudiv: It's a tool that comes with "svn". 18.19.47 Join robin0800 [0] (n=quassel@general-ld-216.t-mobile.co.uk) 18.21.28 # Wait, does compile from tarball no longer work because of version.sh? 18.21.43 # (and assuming you don't have subversion installed) 18.21.54 Join bertrik [0] (n=bertrik@ip117-49-211-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl) 18.23.34 Join Ubuntuxer [0] (n=johannes@dslb-092-073-025-107.pools.arcor-ip.net) 18.24.55 # maybe it works when you create a VERSION file containing the string that should be shown at boot in the docs folder as a workaround? 18.25.31 # I'd say the tarball should include that file 18.25.37 Quit robin0800 (Remote closed the connection) 18.26.15 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 18.28.41 Quit wangxiang () 18.29.30 Quit Llorean ("Leaving.") 18.29.59 Join Llorean [0] (n=DarkkOne@adsl-99-185-10-52.dsl.hstntx.sbcglobal.net) 18.31.24 Join BryanJacobs [0] (n=braujac@128.151.220.74) 18.31.27 # yes, thanks, its working 18.31.34 Quit Llorean (Client Quit) 18.32.13 # can i know what is the number (2 in this case) in jpeg,viewers/jpeg,2 in the file viewers.config? 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Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org") 18.33.48 # ooh k thanks..so it can be repeated for any number of viewers right? 18.35.00 Quit blithe ("Lost terminal") 18.35.11 Join blithe [0] (n=blithe@blakesmith.me) 18.37.07 Quit petur ("back in a few hours") 18.38.01 Quit flydutch ("/* empty */") 18.38.53 Quit Ubuntuxer ("Leaving.") 18.41.45 Join planetbeing [0] (n=planetbe@c-71-236-164-204.hsd1.or.comcast.net) 18.42.08 Join JdGordon| [0] (i=836b0070@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-e690203333dfd20c) 18.44.31 Nick JdGordon| is now known as JdGordon (i=836b0070@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-e690203333dfd20c) 18.44.54 Quit HellDragon (Client Quit) 18.45.29 Join m4ndril [0] (n=martin@r190-135-139-250.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy) 18.46.06 # hi 18.46.53 # im using the sansa simulator to test my theme... but im on a notebook , i dont have the numeric pad ... how can i activate the hold on ??? 18.47.13 Join HellDragon [0] (n=jd@modemcable022.187-203-24.mc.videotron.ca) 18.47.16 # does your notebook have a set of blue numbers overlayed on the letter keys near the right? 18.47.57 # hold is "h" for the main unit and "j" for the remote. 18.48.15 # it has 18.48.24 # but not all numbers 18.48.43 # then you may use the 'h' key as PaulJam just said or you may hold the blue Fn button to use the fake numeric keypad 18.49.02 # it's probably fn+7 for a numpad 7, fn+i for a numpad 5, etc etc 18.49.23 # but is not with the Fn the pad 18.49.39 # 'h' key in my notebook is just an 'h' 18.49.59 # oh 18.50.01 # its works 18.50.03 # for hold on 18.50.22 # thnks paul 18.50.36 # if you don't have a fn button you probably have a 'numlock' somewhere 18.50.46 # activating that will switch your keys to working as a numpad 18.50.50 # i have a fn button 18.50.56 # but.. its not for that xD 18.50.59 # and im in linux 18.51.03 # aww, sorry 18.51.04 # it doesnt work =( 18.51.24 # glad you got it working anyhow :-) 18.51.28 Quit moos ("Rockbox rules the DAP world") 18.52.02 # m4ndril: Please try to put thoughts all on one line 18.54.05 # yeah im sorry for that 18.54.43 Join moos [0] (i=Mustapha@81-66-158-88.rev.numericable.fr) 18.57.41 Quit moos (Client Quit) 18.58.01 Join moos [0] (i=Mustapha@rockbox/staff/moos) 19.06.13 Quit intrados (Remote closed the connection) 19.07.55 Join intrados [0] (n=intrados@cpe-71-67-129-220.woh.res.rr.com) 19.09.57 Quit HellDragon (Client Quit) 19.11.41 Join HellDragon [0] (n=jd@modemcable022.187-203-24.mc.videotron.ca) 19.12.37 Join miepchen^schlaf [0] (n=miepel@p579EC8FD.dip.t-dialin.net) 19.13.30 Quit intrados (Remote closed the connection) 19.14.32 Join _lifeless [0] (n=lifeless@94.50.184.203) 19.15.08 Join intrados [0] (n=intrados@cpe-71-67-129-220.woh.res.rr.com) 19.15.58 Quit intrados (SendQ exceeded) 19.16.17 Join cspotcode [0] (n=bradla@starmie-25.dynamic.rpi.edu) 19.16.20 Join jeffdameth1 [0] (n=jeff@dyndsl-095-033-034-119.ewe-ip-backbone.de) 19.17.24 Join intrados [0] (n=intrados@cpe-71-67-129-220.woh.res.rr.com) 19.18.18 Quit intrados (SendQ exceeded) 19.18.25 Join Horscht [0] (n=Horscht@xbmc/user/horscht) 19.21.25 Join intrados [0] (n=intrados@cpe-71-67-129-220.woh.res.rr.com) 19.23.09 Quit planetbeing () 19.23.59 Join planetbeing [0] (n=planetbe@c-71-236-164-204.hsd1.or.comcast.net) 19.27.00 Quit intrados (Remote closed the connection) 19.28.08 Join intrados [0] (n=intrados@cpe-71-67-129-220.woh.res.rr.com) 19.29.00 Quit intrados (SendQ exceeded) 19.30.14 Join intrados [0] (n=intrados@cpe-71-67-129-220.woh.res.rr.com) 19.30.41 Quit jeffdameth (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 19.31.04 Quit intrados (SendQ exceeded) 19.33.32 Quit planetbeing () 19.33.55 Join intrados [0] (n=intrados@cpe-71-67-129-220.woh.res.rr.com) 19.34.37 Quit intrados (SendQ exceeded) 19.34.51 Join jaykay_ [0] (n=chatzill@p579E769E.dip.t-dialin.net) 19.35.42 Join webguestington [0] (n=424c70e3@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-5ca71911eb5f8dca) 19.35.51 Part m4ndril 19.36.06 Join intrados [0] (n=intrados@cpe-71-67-129-220.woh.res.rr.com) 19.36.45 # After complete installation using rb utility on my 5.5g 80gb ipod, the original firmware boots everytime i hard reset. 19.36.58 Quit intrados (SendQ exceeded) 19.37.16 Join miepchen^schla [0] (n=miepel@p579EC8FD.dip.t-dialin.net) 19.37.21 # Do you have the Hold switch enabled? 19.37.29 # no. 19.38.30 # is there something else i need to do, like removing the original firmware maybe? 19.38.49 # webguestington: Sounds like the Rockbox bootloader didn't get installed. 19.38.55 # How are you hard resetting> 19.39.17 Quit cspotcode (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 19.39.21 # Menu + Select 19.39.23 Join kugel [0] (n=kugel@rockbox/developer/kugel) 19.40.36 # * evilnick_7 agrees with linuxstb, unless you get a black screen with white writing then it sounds as if the bootloader wasn't installed. 19.40.43 # after resetting, i get the apple logo and then it jumps to the Select Language screen of the O.f. 19.41.07 # webguestington, you sure it is not a 6th gen not a 5.5gen 19.41.09 # webguestington: Try installing just the bootloader with Rockbox Utility 19.41.11 # Is there a log produced by RBUtil that we could check? 19.42.48 # mm, i'll try the bootloader thing. as to the generation, i bought it off ebay, listed as 5.5, i'll be kinda pissed if it's not. 19.42.55 Join intrados [0] (n=intrados@cpe-71-67-129-220.woh.res.rr.com) 19.43.37 Quit intrados (SendQ exceeded) 19.44.56 Join intrados [0] (n=intrados@cpe-71-67-129-220.woh.res.rr.com) 19.44.56 # okay in rbutil the output is as follows: starting bootloader installation, searching for ipods, downloading file bootloader-ipodvideo.ipod, download finished, could not open ipod 19.45.08 # i'm betting that last line is part of the problem 19.45.12 # webguestington: on which OS did you use rbutil ? 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i ran a search in the entire file system for "rockbox" and nothing came up. i know i have it installed, it is in the applications bar. 19.56.38 # i suck at linux. i apologize. 19.56.59 # if it is somewhere in the path "whereis rbutilqt" .-) 19.57.25 # or just download it again to a know location. (like your home dir) 19.57.46 # domonoky: if it's in the path, webguestington could just "sudo rbutilqt" 19.58.01 # true 19.58.45 # sudo: rbutilqt: command not found. 19.58.52 # does that mean it's not "in the path" 19.58.56 # webguestington: that's right 19.59.03 Quit BigBambi (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 19.59.22 # you could run "find / -name rbutilqt" and that will find it, but will also take a long time to run 19.59.40 # or you could take domonoky's suggestion of just keeping track of where it is this time 20.00.08 # imma do both :) 20.00.14 # ok, good luck to you :-) 20.00.31 Quit tvelocity (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 20.00.52 Quit intrados (Connection reset by peer) 20.01.01 Nick BigBambi_ is now known as BigBambi (n=alex@rockbox/staff/BigBambi) 20.01.06 Join intrados_ [0] (n=intrados@cpe-71-67-129-220.woh.res.rr.com) 20.01.47 # sudo ./rbutilqt 20.01.58 Quit intrados_ (SendQ exceeded) 20.02.06 # issue this command in your home directory 20.03.09 Join intrados_ [0] (n=intrados@cpe-71-67-129-220.woh.res.rr.com) 20.03.30 Join jaykay__ [0] (n=chatzill@p579E7518.dip.t-dialin.net) 20.03.41 # rbutilqt is not in /usr/bin...so its not a command..and its a file... so we must use ./rbutilqt 20.03.59 Quit intrados_ (SendQ exceeded) 20.04.08 # bertrik: how was the clip not included in #if LCD_HEIGHT <= 64? Also, doesn't this make the c200 a big screen? 20.04.09 # Hittudiv: only works if rbutilqt is actually in the home directory - webguestington has forgotten where it was saved 20.04.16 # re: chopper.c change 20.04.40 # well, he logged in as a guest...if he is still there...we can help him 20.04.46 # was was it not included in LCD_HEIGHT <= 112, I mean 20.05.32 Quit jaykay__ (Client Quit) 20.05.33 Join intrados_ [0] (n=intrados@cpe-71-67-129-220.woh.res.rr.com) 20.05.59 Join jaykay__ [0] (n=chatzill@p579E7518.dip.t-dialin.net) 20.06.04 # kugel: c200 was/is still a "big screen" in chopper terms. Also it was LCD_WIDTH <= 112 before which only applies to the Archos bitmap targets 20.06.24 # kugel, to be honest, I don't know, I trusted funman's judgement on this 20.06.29 Quit intrados_ (SendQ exceeded) 20.06.30 # oh, I didn't read properly :S 20.06.45 # pixelma: that explains all :) 20.06.51 Quit Hittudiv ("CGI:IRC") 20.07.00 Join Hittudiv [0] (n=d2d4a065@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-1ec778a82f1749ab) 20.07.02 # chopper is at least playable now on clip 20.07.11 # there were some plans for a rewrite and I already made some graphics for it... 20.08.01 Join intrados_ [0] (n=intrados@cpe-71-67-129-220.woh.res.rr.com) 20.08.57 Quit intrados_ (SendQ exceeded) 20.09.41 # * kugel wonders if the dma and pcm changes have any visible effect 20.10.55 # yes, the pcm fix causes playback to really stop after the last song 20.10.58 Join sharperguy [0] (n=sharperg@88-109-120-101.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) 20.11.30 # the dma fix fixes something that usually doesn't go wrong, so it's less visible 20.13.02 Quit PaulJam (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 20.13.23 Join Thundercloud [0] (i=thunderc@persistence.flat.devzero.co.uk) 20.14.42 Join PaulJam [0] (n=PaulJam_@vpn-3017.gwdg.de) 20.15.01 Join intrados_ [0] (n=intrados@cpe-71-67-129-220.woh.res.rr.com) 20.15.09 Quit kugel ("ChatZilla 0.9.84-rdmsoft [XULRunner 1.9/2009030810]") 20.15.51 Quit intrados_ (SendQ exceeded) 20.17.51 Join hittudiv_ [0] (n=hittudiv@210.212.160.101) 20.17.52 Quit webguestington ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 20.19.27 Quit hittudiv_ (Client Quit) 20.19.44 Quit jaykay_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 20.20.01 Quit blithe ("Lost terminal") 20.20.08 Quit Hittudiv ("CGI:IRC") 20.20.12 Join blithe [0] (n=blithe@blakesmith.me) 20.20.41 Join Hittudiv [0] (n=hittudiv@210.212.160.101) 20.21.14 Part Hittudiv ("Leaving") 20.21.29 Join dfkt_ [0] (n=dfkt@chello062178002170.1.11.univie.teleweb.at) 20.21.41 Quit dfkt (Nick collision from services.) 20.22.10 Join yash [0] (n=vijay034@c-24-118-49-19.hsd1.mn.comcast.net) 20.22.43 Join miepchen^schlaf [0] (n=miepel@p579EC8FD.dip.t-dialin.net) 20.22.51 # Hi all, I'm a GSoC applicant, and have been told to login at 19:00 UTC for an interview. 20.22.58 # archivator, fft works on e200, but it causes playback to stutter 20.23.08 Join webguestington [0] (n=424c70e3@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-ecec423e13e0b5d5) 20.23.12 # I apologize for the delay since I slept off unknowingly. 20.23.25 Join dfkt [0] (n=dfkt@unaffiliated/dfkt) 20.23.43 # yash: 19:00 UTC is in 37 minutes :) 20.23.45 # bertrik: can the e200's CPU be boosted? 20.23.51 # so I downloaded ipodpatcher to try and install the bootloader. 20.23.57 Join intrados_ [0] (n=intrados@cpe-71-67-129-220.woh.res.rr.com) 20.24.15 # archivator, yes, but even when artifically boosted it still stutters 20.24.28 # yash: You aren't late :) 20.24.28 Quit bluebrother (Nick collision from services.) 20.24.32 Join bluebroth3r [0] (n=dom@rockbox/developer/bluebrother) 20.24.57 Nick bluebroth3r is now known as bluebrother (n=dom@rockbox/developer/bluebrother) 20.24.58 # i get this-- error reading from disk: Bad device type. No ipods found, aborting. Please connect your ipod and ensure it is in disk mode (it is) 20.25.04 # oh oops, but I'm in CST and I thought it's a 6 hr gap between CST and UTC. 20.25.22 Quit intrados_ (SendQ exceeded) 20.25.56 # bertrik: well, that's troublesome. I'm looking at the fire and plasma code right now and they seem to be keeping a buffer of their own and only blitting it. I'm drawing directly to the screen. Could that be the cause? 20.26.05 # webguestington: again, are you running it as root ? 20.26.19 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 20.26.19 # bertrik: Also, try compiling with FFT_SIZE 512 (it's at the top). 20.26.24 # haha no. 20.26.41 # it's an exe file, can i still do that 20.26.42 # ? 20.26.45 # archivator, ok I'll try that (the sansa e200 screen is only 176 pixels wide IIRC) 20.26.55 # yash: timeanddate.com 20.27.03 # webguestington: and on which OS are you now ? 20.27.10 # ubuntu 20.27.21 # running a exe in linux ? 20.27.23 # ok. sorry 20.27.31 Join intrados_ [0] (n=intrados@cpe-71-67-129-220.woh.res.rr.com) 20.27.39 # i guess it's running on wine. i was confused too. 20.28.05 # yeah it is. in wine. 20.28.07 # archivator: What target are you testing/developing this on? 20.28.07 # webguestington: no wonder it can't find the disk 20.28.11 # dont do such thing... there is a also a linux version of ipodpatcher available... 20.28.23 Quit intrados_ (SendQ exceeded) 20.28.41 Join tvelocity [0] (n=tony@adsl11-101.her.forthnet.gr) 20.28.41 # Hmm, I guess I better ask - should I be drawing directly using lcd_drawline/pixel or should I be keeping a buffer of my own and only blitting it? 20.28.46 Part LinusN 20.28.47 # amiconn: ipodvideo 20.29.10 # Hmm, and that doesn't cause playback to stutter? Interesting... 20.29.13 Quit midgey () 20.29.24 # The e200 has the same CPU as the ipod video, and a smaller lcd... 20.29.29 # is it on the rbutility page? 20.30.57 # i realize i'm coming off as incredibly stupid, and i appreciate you guys an awful lot 20.31.26 # webguestington: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/RockboxUtility#Download 20.31.26 Join FlynDice [0] (n=jack@c-24-19-225-90.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) 20.31.44 # archivator: (unrelated to performance) You can leave out the button mappings for RECORDER_PAD and ONDIO_PAD. Recorders and Ondios are hwcodec targets - this plugin can't be made to work on them 20.32.01 Part pyro_maniac ("Leaving.") 20.32.19 # amiconn: will do. 20.32.42 # Oh, I see floating point usage... :\ 20.33.22 # amiconn: it should only be in constants.. 20.34.12 Join intrados_ [0] (n=intrados@cpe-71-67-129-220.woh.res.rr.com) 20.34.25 # okay, weird problem. when i try to open the file FOR LINUX, it tries to open in Wine. How is it supposed to run? Is it another program I could choose or what 20.34.42 Quit rasher (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 20.34.51 Join kugel [0] (i=kugel@rockbox/developer/kugel) 20.35.04 Quit intrados_ (SendQ exceeded) 20.36.38 # What about flog()? 20.37.30 Join intrados_ [0] (n=intrados@cpe-71-67-129-220.woh.res.rr.com) 20.37.30 # Fixed-point natural log :) 20.38.12 # webguestington: What's the filename of the file WINE is opening? 20.38.17 # amiconn: See plugins/lib/fixedpoint.[ch] 20.38.31 # rbutilqt-v1.2-64bit 20.38.57 # Ah, hmm. Btw, if you need plain horizontal or vertical lines, you should use rb->lcd_hline() resp. rb->lcd_vline() 20.39.16 # rb->lcd_drawline() does this optimisation internally, but you save a parameter 20.39.20 Join rasher [0] (n=rasher@0x5550f5a3.adsl.cybercity.dk) 20.39.51 # amiconn: Ah! That's how I can get rid of the "drawline called for vertical line, optimizing" stuff the sim spits out! 20.39.55 Quit intrados_ (SendQ exceeded) 20.40.09 # Yes, that's the sim trying to give you that hint... 20.40.35 # webguestington: do you have a terminal window open? 20.40.51 # i do now :) 20.41.08 # have you succeeded in downloading the linux binary in the meanwhile? 20.41.18 # amiconn: Well, playback now stutters on my ipod as well.. I guess I forgot to test it on target last night.. 20.41.25 # of rockbox utility? yes. 20.42.01 # ok, and executing it worked too? 20.42.19 # no, it tries to open in wine. what other program should i use? 20.42.33 Join intrados_ [0] (n=intrados@cpe-71-67-129-220.woh.res.rr.com) 20.42.36 # archivator: Btw, drawing directly to the framebuffer definitely isn't the problem. It means even less copying that rendering to an intermediate buffer 20.42.42 # webguestington: It is a program, you shouldn't be using some other program to run it. 20.43.12 # have you extracted the tar.bz2? 20.43.25 Quit intrados_ (SendQ exceeded) 20.43.35 # amiconn: I think I see where the problem is, compiling new build.. 20.43.37 # Since you are using text output as well, you'll probably want buffered greylib mode, as unbuffered mode doesn't support text or any kind of fancy drawing function 20.43.49 # yes. to the desktop. how can i run it terminal? sudo run -filename? 20.43.50 # webguestington: bunzip2 rbutilqt-v1.2-64bit.bz2 20.43.53 # And then handling will be very similar to the colour case 20.43.59 Quit barrywardell (Remote closed the connection) 20.44.01 # bluebrother: I wanted to ask you that - why did you tar a single file? 20.44.41 Quit dfkt_ (Connection timed out) 20.44.55 Quit dfkt (Connection timed out) 20.45.01 # rasher: two reasons: (1) out of habit :), (2) to have something hash-check the download 20.45.13 Join dfkt [0] (i=dfkt@unaffiliated/dfkt) 20.45.25 # webguestington: after extraction, "cd Desktop; sudo ./rbutilqt" 20.45.25 # bzip2 has some sort of integrity check 20.45.26 # webguestington: so you have the folder rbutil-v1.2 on the desktop? 20.45.53 # ah, you meant why I tarred it in addition to bz2-ing? 20.45.57 Quit perrikwp ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") 20.46.18 Join perrikwp [0] (i=98214170@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-bc5c71286fa51280) 20.46.25 # webguestington: or have you moved the binary from that folder to the desktop? 20.46.37 # BryanJacobs: output looks like this in terminal-- sudo: ./rbutilqt: command not found 20.47.02 # no i redownloaded it directly to the desktop 20.47.04 # webguestington: sudo ./rbutilqt-v1.2-64bit 20.47.35 # sudo ./rbut is usefull :-) 20.47.37 # command not found. what am i doing wrong?? 20.47.55 # well, it's hard to say as we don't see your machine 20.48.10 Join Hittudiv [0] (n=hittudiv@210.212.160.101) 20.48.25 # can you pastebin the output of "ls" in that folder? 20.48.31 # "ls -l" even 20.49.13 # -r-------- 1 steven steven 12019239 2009-04-07 13:01 rbutilqt-v1.2-64bit 20.49.14 Join intrados_ [0] (n=intrados@cpe-71-67-129-220.woh.res.rr.com) 20.49.30 # well, that's the problem. "chmod +x rbutilqt-v1.2-64bit" 20.49.31 # there it is! hi i'm steven by the way 20.49.53 # rasher: does bz2 preserve file permissions? 20.49.58 Quit intrados_ (SendQ exceeded) 20.50.08 # bluebrother: "p" flag 20.50.23 # bluebrother: Probably not I suppose 20.50.25 # chmod +x rbutilqt-v1.2-64bit . . . doesn't seem to do anything.. 20.50.25 # p flag? to bz2? 20.50.44 # webguestington: that means it worked 20.50.47 # bluebrother: to tar 20.50.51 # run ls -l again :) 20.50.59 # haha sweet. 20.51.05 # thank you guys so much 20.51.13 Join intrados_ [0] (n=intrados@cpe-71-67-129-220.woh.res.rr.com) 20.51.22 # I guess that's another reason to tar a single file ;-) 20.51.42 # Shouldn't this be in the Wiki for RBUtil using Linux? 20.51.51 # bluebrother: that's true 20.52.09 Quit intrados_ (SendQ exceeded) 20.52.18 # I would expect a linux user having enough knowledge of his system to figure such things. Might not be true in all cases though ;-) 20.52.25 # feel free to add it to the wiki page 20.52.31 # yeah, i'm an idiot. 20.52.34 # * evilnick_7 was waiting for that! 20.53.00 # webguestington: I didn't say that. It's just that linux users are usually more familiar with the OS than windows users. 20.53.04 # bluebrother: I don't think it is anymore 20.53.10 # Speaking of the mass of users of course. 20.53.18 # bluebrother: Nor do I think we should assume it is :) 20.53.40 # BigBambi: that's what I'm trying to avoid to realize ;-) 20.53.45 Join intrados_ [0] (n=intrados@cpe-71-67-129-220.woh.res.rr.com) 20.53.57 Join yook [0] (n=yook@71-84-72-219.dhcp.rvsd.ca.charter.com) 20.54.02 Quit ultrasonic (Success) 20.54.08 # right, i realize i'm in the minority there for sure.. well it looks like everything's gonna be awesome. thanks again 20.54.08 Join shotofadds [0] (n=rob@rockbox/developer/shotofadds) 20.54.25 # does anyone have a compiled snclrc.rock for ipod photo? 20.54.33 # hehe :) 20.54.52 # or, is there a way to compile the snclrc.c without reinstalling rockbox? 20.55.03 Join planetbeing [0] (n=planetbe@host-240-113.pubnet.pdx.edu) 20.55.11 # yook: sure. Compile it, then copy the .rock file 20.55.22 Quit webguestington ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 20.56.19 # not sure how to. the instructions on http://yxz0123.yx.funpic.de/rockbox/src/snclrc.txt says to compile it with rockbox 20.56.44 Quit _Auron_ ("Infinity repeatedly denies rumours of plotting with zero to bring down the Universe.") 20.56.44 Join m4ndril [0] (n=martin@r190-135-139-250.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy) 20.56.56 # well, you need to compile Rockbox, but that really isn't much of an issue. 20.57.06 # oh, then ONLY copy the rock 20.57.15 # durr 20.57.52 # i have my theme 90% done i need some feedback :) look here: http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/7872/previewr.png 20.58.53 # yook: Just copying the rock may not work though, if the version numbers are too different. 20.58.54 # m4ndril: looks nice so far. 20.58.59 # Why are you trying to avoid also updating your build? 20.59.13 # m4ndril: Looks nice, I assume that the full yellow/orange battery indicates charging? Also, it'd be easier to judge having some sample text in there too 20.59.29 # yeah 20.59.41 Join _Auron_ [0] (n=DarkAuro@ppp-70-245-129-190.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net) 20.59.42 # you are write 20.59.46 # :) 20.59.54 # oh, is it no biggie, i just didnt want to lose any settings or data or anything. 20.59.58 # right* 21.00.06 # yook: you don't loose settings when updating 21.00.15 # m4ndril: you are paint? ;-) 21.00.37 # what about files i have in my .rockbox folder, do i have to back them up? 21.00.43 # albumart and such 21.00.48 # no 21.00.50 # i use inkscape not paint 21.00.54 # BryanJacobs: so continuing on... there is a 512KB static buffer that the codec is loaded into... other than that MoB manages the rest of the RAM 21.00.54 # neat 21.00.55 # inkscape is a vector based 21.01.07 # so there is not much room for the codec to do its own buffering 21.01.11 # I know ... 21.01.20 # JdGordon: the codec can't buffer things into the main buffer space? 21.01.36 # bluebrother: i dont undestand english very well lol 21.01.36 # BryanJacobs: No, the codec can't access the disk. 21.01.50 # JdGordon: ick. 21.02.05 # This is actually a problem with some other file formats 21.02.08 # m4ndril: I was just playing with the "write" typo -- "write", then "paint" :) 21.02.11 # s/with/for/ 21.02.17 Part yash 21.02.18 # linuxstb: so couldn't a callback interface of some sort work? 21.02.28 # gevaerts: Tracker formats, for example? 21.02.30 # yes 21.02.36 Join saratoga [0] (n=9803c264@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-64b0fbfd9543c196) 21.02.44 # there is a problem with hellowworld plugin.. i did this from wiki.. its showing some error message..http://rockbox.pastebin.com/m7020dac1 can some1 help please? 21.03.01 # Rockbox essentially has a VFS layer, correct? 21.03.05 # i dont have a way to test the pause button 21.03.12 # BryanJacobs: The core principle is that core Rockbox does buffering from disk to RAM, and then powers down the disk for as long as possible, until more data is needed. The codec just has access to that buffered data, which it processes from start to end (a FIFO) 21.03.12 # because i dont have numeric keypad 21.03.12 # what is VFS 21.03.14 Join cspotcode [0] (n=bradla@starmie-25.dynamic.rpi.edu) 21.03.24 # im in linux and my notebook has a Fn key 21.03.28 # thats not working 21.03.31 # BryanJacobs: yeah :/ I had an idea that we could get MoB to release some RAM to the codec if needed which doesnt move (MoB can actually move the data around which can be dangerous)... but there is still the issue with disk access blocking the codec 21.03.38 # which may be a problem, maybe not 21.03.39 # is there a way to enable pause without the keypad ? 21.03.57 # bertrik: does the playback stutter with a linear scaler? I have narrowed it down to using a logarithmic scale - flog, I think, is the culprit. 21.04.00 # JdGordon: I did not know that disk access blocks the codec 21.04.10 # *scale 21.04.10 # why should it on dual-core targets? 21.04.26 # disk access is blocking in rockbox... so if the codec threads calls it, it will block 21.04.37 # on dual core targets we could work around that 21.04.46 # ... but that's a hack. 21.04.48 # hmm. 21.05.09 # it stuttered only a few times with the smaller FFT 21.05.17 # JdGordon: would the right solution be nonblocking I/O? 21.05.46 # why do we want non-blocking IO? 21.06.10 # can someone help me with the pause button of my theme ? 21.06.12 # saratoga: we want to have a codec have access to two different files, meaning current buffering code isn't sufficient 21.06.16 # i have no pause in the simulator 21.06.23 # so i cant test 21.06.24 # BryanJacobs: well thats basically what MoB tries to do... but the buffer tries to be full when the disk is spining so the only way to do it would be to force it to dump buffered tracks to fit the lossless file in 21.06.28 # codecs shouldn't have a diskio function at all 21.06.29 # bertrik: the lower FFT_SIZE is, the more inaccurate the results get. I need to figure out how to scale the values logarithmically without calling that flog.. 21.06.51 # JdGordon: did you write the MoB code? 21.06.57 # no 21.07.27 # Nico_P knows that code better than anyone... but he hasnt been around much I think :/ 21.07.39 # well, I should probably give it a read 21.08.13 # saratoga: the idea was to keep ugliness out of buffer/playback.c 21.08.19 # but it may be a bad idea 21.08.27 # it *might* just work though 21.08.40 Quit Thundercloud (Remote closed the connection) 21.08.42 # * BryanJacobs crosses fingers 21.09.10 Join parafin [0] (i=parafin@paraf.in) 21.09.12 # m4ndril: try the "home" button. 21.09.26 # but you have to handle the almost definite problem of what to do when the lossy file (part of it anyway) is ready but the lossless part isnt 21.09.52 # well, we've still got good quality audio :-D 21.09.55 # PaulJam: i will try :D 21.10.03 # JdGordon: that might even help with performance 21.10.16 # if the player is too slow, give 90% lossless audio :-P 21.10.17 # PaulJam: did you see my theme ? :d 21.10.17 # m4ndril: or "page up" 21.10.59 # m4ndril: yes, it looks nice (but i don't have a sansa) 21.11.41 # snclrc can read lyrics from id3 tag right? 21.12.00 # BryanJacobs: it might be worth emailing the dev mailing list and getting a bit of a discussion going on how to try doing it... I really dont want to see you waste 81/2 weeks on this part of the issue (of course this might be the only hard part of the project anyway) 21.12.14 # PaulJam: home or page up is not working 21.12.33 # PaulJam: pgdn , delete, insert or end are not working eithe 21.12.57 # JdGordon: not a bad idea. Will do. I kind of want to just HAVE the stuff in the buffer and do the work from there, but obviously this isn't too easy... 21.13.26 # JdGordon: I can always test the later parts with a pre-interleaved file anyhow 21.13.46 # yeah, but that defeats the purpose of the whole thing anyway 21.14.01 # no, it only lessens the convenience 21.14.10 # what sort of file chunk sizes would be needed? 21.14.21 # depends on the buffer size 21.14.29 Quit miepchen^schlaf () 21.14.36 # when i try to compile hellow world plugin, i get "static declaration of ‘rb’ follows non-static declaration" error message on the line static const struct plugin_api* rb; what does that mean? 21.14.39 # minimum to be workable? 21.14.48 # the main advantage of interleaved hybrid is that adding and removing the lossless info is low O(n) 21.15.00 # probably only a few K 21.15.10 # let me check the spec 21.15.13 # Hittudiv: Isn't rb already declared in the plugin header? 21.15.51 Join jordoex [0] (n=quassel@S0106002129693a39.vc.shawcable.net) 21.16.08 Join miepchen^schlaf [0] (n=miepel@p579EC8FD.dip.t-dialin.net) 21.16.15 # m4ndril: then i have no idea... (according to the source code PGUP should be the alternative button for Keypad9: http://rockbox.pastebin.com/m69ed5501) 21.16.27 # can someone please correect it in wiki?? it is given there..to declare rb in the helloworld plugin 21.16.49 # :( 21.17.43 # JdGordon: no minimum http://pastebin.com/m372826a2 21.17.47 # BryanJacobs: a possible solution could be to steal the plugin buffer (512KB again) and use a 2nd thread in the codec to manage that which would be fine on dual core.. the downnside to that would be no plugins while its running, but thats not too bad 21.17.50 # BryanJacobs: maybe this interleaving could be done by loading time, and the codec provides a function to read from disk to a buffer.. 21.18.07 # BryanJacobs: I cant look at any code or specs atm... I'm at work :) 21.18.20 # JdGordon: was just a 1-para snippet 21.18.34 # * JdGordon has to be careful with pastebins :) 21.18.38 # domonoky: that doesn't sound bad 21.18.44 # domonoky: The problem is that the codec isn't loaded at buffering time.... 21.18.52 # PaulJam: can i recompile this changing the SDL var ? 21.19.01 # domonoky: Or rather, may not be loaded. 21.19.10 # JdGordon: if we use the codec space, which is only 512k, then we'll probably get bad battery performance b/c the WVC is larger than the WV 21.19.21 # then this "codec provided loading function" have to sit somewhere else, maybe with the metadata code ? 21.20.04 # domonoky: how about this: request_buffer takes an optional callback handle 21.20.25 Quit Ridayah (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 21.20.33 # signature looks like callback(FILE* file, void* buf) 21.20.36 # BryanJacobs: battery perf can be fixed later... I'm trying to come up with a workable solution so we have a working codec at the end :) 21.20.41 # * domonoky doesnt knows the details of this code. it was just a suggestion to explore :-) 21.20.51 # no, callback into buffering isnt a good idea imo 21.20.56 # JdGordon: agreed, but I don't want to architect it wrong in a way that can't be fixed 21.21.09 # nothing can't be fixed 21.21.12 # m4ndril: i guess this could work. the code is in \uisimulator\sdl\button.c 21.21.33 # JdGordon: technically true, but a total rewrite isn't really a "fix" 21.21.49 # wait, I suppose the code for correcting blocks would still be useful 21.21.54 # 21.22.20 # ok.. i have gcc here in linux :D 21.22.39 # btw, I said plugin buffer before which is a seperate 512KB block than the codec... if that worked we could move that to a larger block inside the real buffer/MoB... 21.22.55 # ooh, now that sounds good 21.23.01 # it would limit wv hybrid to dual core though, but thats probably fine anyway 21.23.07 # we get a whole 512k to ourself... 21.23.22 # and if there ever were an async I/O function we could use it 21.23.26 # JdGordon: You should at least *try* to find a solution that doesn't require dual core 21.23.46 # That's a decreasing subset of our targets, at the moment. 21.23.56 # Llorean: sure, but I wuld rather it working on some targets than none... 21.24.09 # are all the arm targets dual core? 21.24.15 # No. 21.24.17 # * linuxstb thinks a way forward would be to pre-process the files to a combined format, and let the Rockbox buffering code handle that as a normal single file. The next step would be to make the Rockbox buffering code do that combining. 21.24.20 # Just the iPods, Sansas, and H10. 21.24.25 # And M:Robe 100 I guess. 21.24.42 # PP only then... nuts, I thought the beast was also 21.24.43 # linuxstb: That was the one that sounded most interesting to me too 21.24.46 # Not the Gigabeats, Telechips, AMS, .... 21.24.48 # * BryanJacobs agrees with linuxstb - all code that works with combined format would work with any dual-file-buffering result 21.25.26 # * BryanJacobs will post to dev list to allow debate to rage, burning all who stand in its way 21.25.42 # m4ndril: you probably don even have to change the sourcecode. the alternative buttons were added only two days ago, so you uisim is probably built from an older source. http://svn.rockbox.org/viewvc.cgi?view=rev&revision=20628 21.25.47 # BryanJacobs: Exactly. And you would be able progress the project a long way without touching the core buffering code. 21.26.02 # linuxstb: should I revise the proposal milestones? 21.26.41 # linuxstb: TCC78x is dual-core, we just don't utilise it yet 21.27.00 # shotofadds: Sshhh. 21.27.02 # hmm... a second thread in the codec would work on a single core target anyway... just more likely to slow things down 21.28.42 # PaulJam: so what do you suggest ? 21.28.56 # PaulJam: to download a new build of the simulator ? 21.29.21 Quit rwcr (Remote closed the connection) 21.30.03 Quit l403 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 21.30.33 Join linuxstb_ [0] (n=linuxstb@rockbox/developer/linuxstb) 21.30.51 Quit linuxstb (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 21.30.58 Nick linuxstb_ is now known as linuxstb (n=linuxstb@rockbox/developer/linuxstb) 21.31.39 # m4ndril: if you use windows, then you can grab one from here: http://rasher.dk/rockbox/simulator/ this one should include the alternative buttons. 21.32.01 # i am currently trying to compile my own plugins.. is there a way to stop building all the plugins by the make file? 21.32.06 # i download it from there 21.32.10 Nick jaykay__ is now known as jaykay_ (n=chatzill@p579E7518.dip.t-dialin.net) 21.32.13 # i use linux.. i use wine to run it :d 21.32.23 Quit miepchen^schla (No route to host) 21.32.55 Join l403 [0] (n=l@85.132.159.239) 21.33.42 # i just need to test my plugin.. 21.35.01 Quit blithe ("Lost terminal") 21.35.11 # PaulJam: its now working thank you so much for everything :D 21.35.12 Join blithe [0] (n=blithe@blakesmith.me) 21.35.30 # PaulJam: i can now finish my theme xD 21.36.44 Join pabs [0] (n=pabs@xor.pablotron.org) 21.38.01 Quit HellDragon (Client Quit) 21.40.22 Join HellDragon [0] (n=jd@modemcable022.187-203-24.mc.videotron.ca) 21.41.54 Part m4ndril 21.42.28 Join Ubuntuxer [0] (n=johannes@dslb-088-078-113-092.pools.arcor-ip.net) 21.43.15 Quit perrikwp ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") 21.47.18 Join mcuelenaere [0] (n=mcuelena@rockbox/developer/mcuelenaere) 21.48.06 Join Thundercloud [0] (i=thunderc@persistence.flat.devzero.co.uk) 21.48.20 # I don't understand viewport. The functions aren't well documented. Not even in PLUGIN_API.new. The wiki isn't very useful. Does a plugin use viewport yet? 21.51.08 Quit HellDragon (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 21.52.06 Quit Lss (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 21.53.48 # i would guess the test_viewports plugin uses them. 21.54.00 Join perrikwp [0] (i=18ac0c41@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-978aef2d36f4e2ab) 21.54.33 Quit yook () 21.55.48 Join HellDragon [0] (i=jd@modemcable022.187-203-24.mc.videotron.ca) 21.56.18 Quit perrikwp (Client Quit) 21.57.33 Join robin0800 [0] (n=quassel@cpc3-brig8-0-0-cust436.brig.cable.ntl.com) 21.58.04 # I donkey, sorry 21.58.28 Quit LambdaCalculus37 ("CGI:IRC 0.5.9 (2006/06/06)") 21.59.02 # Someone should change the front page that still sayes yesterday was April !st 21.59.21 # 1st 21.59.45 # robin0800: that statement is dated :) 22.00.41 Quit intrados_ (Remote closed the connection) 22.00.54 # gevaerts: its in the project news 22.01.12 Join pyro_maniac [0] (n=jens@91-67-255-129-dynip.superkabel.de) 22.01.27 # robin0800: yes. And it's clearly marked that on April 2nd, yesterday was April 1st :) 22.01.50 Join intrados_ [0] (n=intrados@cpe-71-67-129-220.woh.res.rr.com) 22.02.35 Quit Hittudiv (Remote closed the connection) 22.02.40 Quit intrados_ (SendQ exceeded) 22.03.15 # gevaerts: But it was usefull on 2nd for people that didn't get the apple joke hardly relevent now 22.03.38 # does it really matter? 22.04.06 Join SageSeeker [0] (n=chatzill@74-140-246-226.dhcp.insightbb.com) 22.04.10 # it implicitly tells that there was an aprils fools joke on the first. 22.04.17 # that's still valid 22.04.54 # BigBambi: well how do you find out what happened on the 1st? 22.05.03 Join intrados_ [0] (n=intrados@cpe-71-67-129-220.woh.res.rr.com) 22.05.19 Join perrikwp [0] (i=18ac0c41@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-7dfb3eda8948709a) 22.05.46 # You can ask. 22.05.58 Quit Ubuntuxer ("Leaving.") 22.06.09 Quit intrados_ (SendQ exceeded) 22.06.19 # the mailing list has it ... 22.06.21 # robin0800: I agree it is somewhat superfluous, I just don't get why it actually matteras 22.06.57 # Llorean: don't new people ask enough questions already? 22.07.20 # I'm having some trouble installing Rockbox to my Sansa e260v2. I'm using Vista, I cant get the autoinstaller to detect the device, and I cant figure out how to manually direct it to the device. 22.07.20 # robin0800: you're the first one to ask about this, and you're not new 22.07.58 # SageSeeker: We don't provide builds for the e200v2, the port is incomplete. 22.08.05 # SageSeeker: AMS Sansa's aren't yet supported by RBUtil 22.08.13 # That explains it. 22.08.27 # SageSeeker: the AMS sansas aren't supported at all yet 22.08.43 Quit dfkt ("-= SysReset 2.53=- Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn.") 22.09.11 # Okay. thanks anyways. 22.09.24 Quit BryanJacobs ("g'bye all!") 22.09.24 Quit SageSeeker ("ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 3.0.7/2009021910]") 22.10.07 Quit {phoenix} (Remote closed the connection) 22.12.32 Join intrados_ [0] (n=intrados@cpe-71-67-129-220.woh.res.rr.com) 22.13.36 Quit intrados_ (SendQ exceeded) 22.18.14 Join cmwslw [0] (n=cmwslw@c-68-59-238-111.hsd1.tn.comcast.net) 22.19.27 Part mrkiko 22.22.43 Quit miepchen^schlaf (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 22.24.47 Join jgarvey [0] (n=jgarvey@cpe-098-026-065-013.nc.res.rr.com) 22.25.41 Quit jgarvey (Client Quit) 22.26.23 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 22.27.28 Join kachna [0] (n=kachna@r4ax178.net.upc.cz) 22.27.41 Join ibseco [0] (n=ibseco@BAH0e74.bah.pppool.de) 22.28.41 Quit parafin ("reboot") 22.29.10 Join intrados_ [0] (n=intrados@cpe-71-67-129-220.woh.res.rr.com) 22.29.52 Quit intrados_ (SendQ exceeded) 22.32.24 Quit kushal_12_27_200 ("Leaving. I cannot promise to be back but most likely will.") 22.34.01 Quit bertrik ("Leaving") 22.34.04 Join goffa_ [0] (n=goffa@216.220.23.105) 22.34.10 Quit timc (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 22.34.18 Join timc [0] (n=aoeu@124.93.243.83) 22.37.14 Quit FOAD (Remote closed the connection) 22.39.32 Quit bluebrother ("leaving") 22.39.40 Join webguest65 [0] (n=45e6668c@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-727ea7412dad8b07) 22.40.00 # Hey i need some help with my sansa can anyone help me 22.40.01 Quit blithe ("Lost terminal") 22.40.12 Join blithe [0] (n=blithe@blakesmith.me) 22.40.18 # Hey i need some help with my sansa can anyone help me 22.40.19 DBUG Enqueued KICK webguest65 22.40.19 # Hey i need some help with my sansa can anyone help me 22.40.34 Part cmwslw ("Ex-Chat") 22.40.43 Join FOAD [0] (n=dok@dinah.blub.net) 22.40.44 # does anyone have a yahoo ID so i can im you 22.40.49 # webguest65, not if you don't ask a more specific question 22.40.53 # webguest65: Just ask the question and anyone who can help will 22.41.00 # i have a brinked sansa 22.41.02 # and 22.41.17 # simmilar problem 22.41.18 # http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=18197.0 22.41.19 # if it's a v1 sansa, it isn't bricked and is recoverable 22.41.29 # yes its a V1 22.41.34 # well i deleted everthing 22.41.39 # off and now i cant do anything 22.41.40 # with 22.41.41 # it 22.41.57 # webguest65, the enter key is not a space bar. please try to keep whole thoughts to one line 22.42.07 Ctcp Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood 22.42.07 # * evilnick_7 suggests calming down a little 22.42.12 # sorry okay 22.42.21 Join miepchen^schlaf [0] (n=miepel@p579EC8FD.dip.t-dialin.net) 22.42.52 # What happens when you turn the Sansa on? 22.43.04 # it stays on the welcome screen 22.43.29 # i have tried to paste the files to sansa mi4 files but nothing happenes 22.43.30 # webguest65: you need to remove the SD card 22.43.39 # webguest65: unless I am mistaken? 22.43.41 # i dont have a sd card 22.43.59 # OK, how much of this have you tried: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/SansaE200Unbrick 22.44.03 # oh, then maybe it is the case that you dropped your player ;P 22.44.25 # ive tried all of that 22.44.27 # lucent: If it was dropped then it wouldn't make it to the welcome screen 22.44.40 # and still dosnt work 22.44.40 Quit jaykay_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 22.45.24 # sansa firmware updater still recognises that its a sansa but gives me a error message if that helps 22.45.59 # Can you get to the Recovery Mode? 22.46.02 # yes 22.46.05 # evilnick_7: okay I will be quiet then, I don't know anything about his Sansa :( 22.46.37 Quit J-23 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 22.47.45 # webguest65: And were you able to copy the correct .mi4 file to it? 22.48.11 # yes but it wont restart or like do anything just stays at the recovery mode 22.48.36 Quit killan_ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 22.49.10 Quit goffa (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 22.49.16 # What is the exact Sansa model, and what is the name of the .mi4 file that you copied over? 22.49.29 # lemme check 22.49.38 Join killan [0] (n=nnscript@c-5ef170d5.06-397-67626721.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) 22.50.06 # sansa e260 and PP5022.mi4 22.50.21 # Also, what do you mean by "just stays at the recovery mode"? 22.50.42 Quit planetbeing () 22.51.21 # After that i unplug the usb cable and the player is just stuck in this mode forever, until i hold the power button down for 15 secs to shut it down. On restart, i am back to the same old problem. NO CHANGE. 22.51.59 # did you safely eject it? 22.52.07 # yes 22.52.49 # Can you describe the "welcome screen" that you see when you turn it on? 22.53.27 # just says SanDisk 22.53.28 # thats all 22.54.14 # have you tried sansa.fmt? 22.54.19 # yes 22.54.35 # still dosnt work at all so i dont know what to do now 22.54.44 # What appears on the screen while you are in recovery mode? 22.55.04 # ********************** 22.55.04 # Welcome to Recovery Mode 22.55.04 # ********************** 22.55.04 # Usb cable connected 22.55.04 # Enter USB2.0 MSD mode 22.55.14 # Safe to Disconnect USB 22.55.14 # Exit USB2.0 MSD mode 22.55.35 # then it stays at the last 2 lines and just nothing happens 22.57.12 # hm, the c200 also shows things like "LUN locked". I'm not sure about the e200 22.57.30 # nope 22.57.32 # * gevaerts looks around to see if someone knows 22.57.56 # I'm pretty sure it's also showed those on my e200 22.58.00 # Can't say for 100% certain though 22.58.50 # * evilnick_7 is checking as we speak/type 22.59.08 Join J-23 [0] (n=zelazko@unix.net.pl) 22.59.22 # webguest65, have you tried reinstalling the sansa bootloader? 22.59.28 # how 22.59.28 Join gregzx [0] (n=chatzill@dru124.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) 22.59.54 # I get the same first 3 lines then Please connect USB cable 23.00.01 # there is bootloader file that you put in recovery mode 23.00.01 Quit blithe ("Lost terminal") 23.00.13 Join blithe [0] (n=blithe@blakesmith.me) 23.00.17 # umm just the bootloader? 23.00.24 # is it a ROM file 23.00.27 Quit FOAD (Remote closed the connection) 23.00.36 # yea it is the rom file 23.00.42 # so just that 23.00.45 # nothing else?? 23.01.19 # copy and paste correct? 23.01.24 # you need to put the firmware on the sansa.fmt file on it.. it will delete the sansa too 23.01.40 # ya i have tried that 23.01.51 # webguest65: It looks from your output that your USB cable was connected when you entered Recovery Mode, is that right? 23.02.16 # no i connected it when it told me to 23.02.40 # What did you do immediately before "Safe to Disconnect USB" then? 23.02.49 # webguest65: try finding a different cable and try with that. 23.02.51 Join FOAD [0] (n=dok@dinah.blub.net) 23.03.19 # no its definatly not the cable 23.03.23 # 100% 23.03.56 # if you guys dont know then thats okay i really do need the help thougj 23.03.58 # though 23.04.12 # webguest65, so you copied the rom file, the firmware, and sansa.fmt to recovery mode and that did not work? i remember you saying only the firmware and sansa.fmt 23.04.14 # How do you know the cable isn't bad? 23.04.32 # well it works with my other sansa 23.04.45 # rom file, the firmware, and sansa.fmt to recovery yes all 3 files 23.04.48 # it could also be the connector on the sansa 23.05.06 # how about the version file 23.05.14 # could that be it 23.05.23 # it shouldn't 23.05.35 # that pops up with the 16 mg 23.05.45 # What did you do immediately before "Safe to Disconnect USB" then? 23.05.46 # yyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy thats what it says 23.06.07 # webguest65: you say you connected when it told you to. The output you showed didn't tell to connect 23.06.09 # pasted the 3 files then safly disconeccted and the 23.06.41 # webguest65, so your version.txt is corrupt.. you might have to use the e200tool in linux but i will not got that far yet 23.06.55 # i dont have linux 23.07.16 Join planetbeing [0] (n=planetbe@host-240-113.pubnet.pdx.edu) 23.08.33 # so theres the problem the file is corrupt 23.08.44 # yes, so you need e200tool 23.08.47 # but i dont know relly how to do the tecy stuff 23.08.49 # okay 23.09.12 # how do i use it 23.09.17 # download from where? 23.09.21 Quit Seed ("cu, Andre") 23.09.33 # http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/SansaE200Unbrick#Manufacturing_Mode 23.10.05 Quit cspotcode ("Leaving.") 23.10.13 # i dont understand like its complicatted 23.10.44 # oh ya it asks me to install tango media platform 23.10.51 # but my computer cant find it 23.11.36 # tango digital media platform 23.11.43 # what? 23.11.51 # asks me to install tango media platform 23.11.58 # when? 23.12.01 # but there is no software 23.12.10 # when i am in manufactoring mode 23.12.33 # found new hardware needs driver files 23.12.49 # are you in linux? you need to use linux even a linux livecd will work too 23.12.58 # i dont have linx 23.13.13 # well, e200tool works well in linux or macosx. Unfortunately, it's extremely hard to get to even half-work in windows 23.13.26 # i am using windows! 23.13.36 # then find someone who isn't 23.13.42 Quit feisar (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 23.14.02 # anyone who could do this for me and send me the files ? 23.14.22 # webguest65: It seems at this point that the only way to recover your Sansa is by using Linux/MacOS. 23.14.23 # no. The player needs to be connected to a computer running linux or OS X 23.14.35 # OS X? 23.14.37 # whats tthat 23.14.47 # XP 23.14.51 # oh okay i can do tha t 23.14.53 # that 23.15.05 # Mac OSX not Windows XP 23.15.07 Join feisar [0] (n=jljhook@noppakerho.com) 23.15.26 # oh ugh so im screwed 23.15.50 Join miepchen^schla [0] (n=miepel@p579EC8FD.dip.t-dialin.net) 23.16.02 # if you know someone with mac os x or linux, you can get it fixed 23.16.15 # nope dont know anyone with linz 23.16.22 # webguest65: Your Sansa is not working. You need to get it working. The only way to get it working is by using an Operating System which is NOT Windows and then the e200tool. It's your choice. 23.16.32 # * gevaerts also doesn't know anyone with linz 23.17.01 # do you know anyone with a mac? 23.17.12 # nope 23.17.42 # im screwed 23.17.48 # How did you install rockbox? 23.18.01 # i didnt install rockbox 23.18.10 Quit miepchen^schlaf (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 23.19.10 # you are not screwed.. you just need to find someone with mac os x or linux or you can download a linux livecd and boot to it and fix it yourself 23.19.19 # either that or contact sandisk 23.19.32 # or whoever sold you the sansa 23.19.44 # ive contacted sandisk they told me to add the firmware files but ya 23.19.52 # still nothing 23.20.10 # okay so well im screwed anyways thanks so much for your help 23.20.52 # well, there's nothing much we can do about it then... 23.21.06 # thanks anyway 23.22.08 Quit webguest65 ("CGI:IRC") 23.22.13 # is there a way to generate the sample set from CodecPerformanceComparison from within Linux? 23.24.00 # most of the encoders should be available. Not sure if you'll find exactly the same versions though 23.24.15 # * Llorean wonders how many of the sample formats we can just use ffmpeg to get. 23.24.38 # * mcuelenaere wonders why no one uploaded the samples somewhere and placed a link in the wiki 23.24.54 # if you want comparable results you have to use the same encoder 23.25.12 # * mcuelenaere notices the TODO note 23.27.34 Join intrados_ [0] (n=intrados@cpe-71-67-129-220.woh.res.rr.com) 23.27.40 # hmm the encoder pack isn't available anymore 23.27.50 Quit FOAD (Remote closed the connection) 23.28.10 Join FOAD [0] (n=dok@dinah.blub.net) 23.29.38 Quit ibseco (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 23.32.14 Join FOAD_ [0] (n=dok@dinah.blub.net) 23.32.50 Quit snizwickit () 23.33.45 Quit FOAD (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 23.33.46 Nick FOAD_ is now known as FOAD (n=dok@dinah.blub.net) 23.33.48 Part pyro_maniac 23.33.53 Join flydutch [0] (n=flydutch@host31-165-dynamic.8-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) 23.34.28 Quit itcheg ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") 23.34.50 Quit J-23 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 23.39.10 Quit FOAD (Remote closed the connection) 23.42.20 Join FOAD [0] (n=dok@dinah.blub.net) 23.43.21 Join PaulJam_ [0] (i=Paule@vpn-3001.gwdg.de) 23.44.51 Quit evilnick_7 ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") 23.46.24 Quit l403 (No route to host) 23.51.33 # Anyone with a PP player willing to test a newer version of fs#10065? Hopefully, playback won't skip now.. 23.53.18 Quit FlynDice (Remote closed the connection) 23.53.27 # archivator: I'm on it (sansa e200) 23.54.12 # rasher: I haven't posted the patch in FS, I'll give you a link in a minute. 23.54.13 Quit timc (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 23.54.27 Join timc [0] (n=aoeu@124.93.243.83) 23.54.49 # Ah okay 23.55.53 Join FlynDice [0] (n=jack@c-24-19-225-90.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) 23.58.59 # rasher: try this one: http://pastebin.ca/1385391