--- Log for 26.04.109 Server: lindbohm.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 1 month and 9 days ago 00.07.03 Join bs66_ [0] (n=sysuser@95.209.90.67.bredband.tre.se) 00.07.35 Quit _fml ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 00.07.42 Join g54pcys [0] (n=chatzill@121.79.210.98) 00.07.55 Quit bs66_1 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00.25.03 # New commit by 03bertrik (r20791): Remove unnecessary #include "adc.h" 00.28.30 Join telliott [0] (n=Tim@d27-96-170-180.evv.wideopenwest.com) 00.29.22 # I've searched but how do I find instuctions to update the bootloader on my Archos V1 00.31.46 Quit telliott (Client Quit) 00.34.49 Quit robin0800 (Remote closed the connection) 00.36.02 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 00.36.27 Join barrywardell [0] (n=barrywar@86.45.9.197) 00.45.57 Quit barrywardell () 00.47.17 Join barrywardell [0] (n=barrywar@86.45.9.197) 00.52.10 Quit faemir (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 00.52.59 Join faemir [0] (n=faemir@88-106-242-222.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) 00.56.55 Quit bluebrother ("sleep.") 01.15.17 Quit bertrik ("Leaving") 01.16.09 Quit dfkt ("-= SysReset 2.53=- Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn.") 01.16.58 Join telliott [0] (n=Tim@d27-96-170-180.evv.wideopenwest.com) 01.17.55 # ok, I'm stumped. How do I update the bootloader on my Archos V1 recorder. I haven't done it in ages 01.19.22 # The .bin files I have are from flash-recorder-v3. Is this the correct version? 01.21.43 Quit barrywardell () 01.24.22 # there is no bootloader for archos. you probably mean, you want to update the flashed rockbox binary ? 01.26.20 Quit flydutch ("/* empty */") 01.27.41 # I was about to flash the ucl but it said the bootloader was out of date. I'm running from flash 01.28.32 Join sandiske280r [0] (n=be580bf9@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-f1fdad1b841bc5ed) 01.28.39 Join fenugrec [0] (n=ABC@modemcable247.111-201-24.mc.videotron.ca) 01.29.09 # hi 01.29.11 # you should rolo into the new build, before trying to run the ucl. 01.29.33 # the problem is that this is an old and (prtially) forgotten platform 01.29.39 # I did that 01.29.42 # and if your flash version is very old, you may need to redo the initial flashin procedure (see manual) 01.30.01 # I'm looking for a bit of assistance with my sandisk 280r 01.30.30 # I just installed rockbox, via the OSX 'rbutilqt' 01.30.50 # and now, when booting, I get a file not found error 01.30.53 # is the initial flash procedure in the main manual? I must have missed it 01.31.02 # telliott: yes. 01.31.25 # sandiske280r: go into the installation tab in rbutil and his the button for installing the firmware 01.31.26 # and now I cannot get it to connect to my apple 01.31.51 # sandiske280r: did you use the buttons from the quick start tab ? 01.32.04 # yes, the complete installation 01.32.06 # and the 01.32.09 # wait... 01.32.21 # also the extras 01.32.23 # and the voice 01.32.29 # sandiske280r: and you should be able to reboot into the of for usb, (see manual for howto) 01.32.53 Quit mcuelenaere ("Leaving.") 01.32.53 # domonoky: eh? 01.33.51 # sandiske280r: rbutil currently has a bug on osx, which causes that rockbox isnt installed correctly. (see rbutils wikipage) 01.33.53 # I think I found it in the advanced settings. 01.34.45 # so you should boot into the sansa of, connect usb, and reinstall the main binary via the installation tab in rbutil. 01.34.47 # oops! I will look into the rbutils wiki, I hope it will help me to get the sandisk volume to show up on osx ... 01.34.48 # I've done the update a million times but not the initial installation 01.36.04 # sandiske280r: hold left while booting, as it says in the manual. 01.36.12 # domonoky: what is the 'sansa of' ? 01.36.22 # of= original firmware 01.36.25 # yes I do that, and it boots in the original sandisk os 01.36.32 # ah thanks 01.37.17 # thank you, I will do it right now 01.40.44 # OK I have the Sandisk showing up in OSX again, I am in the 'installation' tab of rbutil.... and now I should choose the 'install the bootloader' button? 01.41.12 # make sure the mountpoint is configured correctly first. 01.41.17 Join mc2739 [0] (n=mc2739@cpe-67-10-238-175.satx.res.rr.com) 01.41.40 # and not the bootloader. that should already be installed. 01.42.11 # It found the mountpoint automatically, being the 'SYSTEM' folder on the sandisk, is that correct? 01.42.32 # no it should point to the root of the device. 01.43.04 # somthing like: /Volumes/sansa or similar 01.43.17 # OK 01.43.28 # does rbutil support e200r now? 01.43.33 # I changed it into volumes/sansa e280 01.43.57 # perhaps that was what made it originally broken: that I installed it in the SYSTEM folder? 01.44.08 # let see what happens when I restart the device 01.44.43 # nope 01.44.47 # again file not found 01.45.03 # sandiske280r: whats the exact error message ? 01.45.11 # ehm 01.45.23 # before I can read it fully, it shuts down 01.45.38 # and check if there really is a .rockbox dir on the device. 01.45.48 # (it may be hidden on osx) 01.45.53 # but let me see if I can get the message by repeatedly restarting.. one moment 01.46.24 # Can't load rockbox.mi4 01.46.43 # Can't load rockox.e200 01.46.53 # there. those are the two errros 01.46.57 # sandiske280r: what version is your sandisk firmware? 01.47.11 # so the .rockbox dir is probably still not there. did you use the "install rockbox" button and safely eject the device ? 01.47.43 # yes, I used the 'install rockbox' AND I safely ejected 01.47.54 # mc2739: from the error message, the bootloader work fine, so it really seems like the rbutil osx bug. 01.48.07 # firmware is 01.02.15a 01.48.17 # check if there isnt another sansa directory in /Volumes/ 01.48.34 # ok - thats not an e280r then 01.49.08 # It's a crime getting this thing to show up in OSX... I constantly change the USB mode, restart, try, etc etc 01.49.56 # * domonoky suspects there is a left-over sansa directory on /Volumes and the sansa is now mounted to another directory. 01.49.58 # mc2739: it says model: e280R on the backside of the unit 01.50.26 # let me first get into the volume.. one moment 01.50.28 # that happens a lot with refurbished units 01.50.39 # ah? 01.50.52 # so what type do I have then? 01.51.06 # it is just an e280 01.51.20 # ah 01.51.58 # the hardware is identical to the e280r - the firmware was the difference between the two models 01.52.13 # hmkay 01.54.47 Quit telliott ("Leaving") 01.55.43 Quit amiconn (Nick collision from services.) 01.55.45 Join amiconn_ [50] (n=jens@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 01.55.57 Join pixelma_ [50] (n=pixelma@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 01.55.57 Quit pixelma (Nick collision from services.) 01.56.05 Nick amiconn_ is now known as amiconn (n=jens@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 01.56.13 Nick pixelma_ is now known as pixelma (n=pixelma@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 01.56.51 Quit gregzx ("ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 3.0.9/2009040821]") 01.58.01 # ok, back in the unit via OSX... there is no .rockbox volume... 01.58.29 # and in the Volumes directory, I have: 02.00.49 # ehm 02.01.11 # strange, I had two sansa's in the choose a volume window 02.01.18 # and I installed it in the second 02.01.22 # and now it works 02.02.29 # thats what i meant. one of those two directorys is not the device, but a folder on your pc. 02.02.43 # yes 02.03.09 # but when I installed it the first time, I did not choose a folder on my mac 02.04.06 # yes, but you used "complete install" which is buggy on mac at moment. this caused this trouble .. :-) 02.04.12 # but the positive thing: it works 02.04.23 # heh 02.04.29 # yes, have fun with rockbox.. 02.04.41 # would you like me to try it again, when it is not so buggy anymore? 02.05.05 # no, only the installer has this bug. rockbox itself is fine :-) 02.06.13 # so dont worry, it works now. 02.07.45 # yes, thanks 02.07.52 # and goodbye 02.09.12 Quit sandiske280r ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 02.10.12 Join EternalRains [0] (n=Abztrkhi@c-24-127-231-171.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) 02.23.55 Join roomtemperature [0] (n=blayde@c-71-199-29-250.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) 02.25.21 Quit faemir ("Leaving") 02.27.13 Quit CaptainKwel (Remote closed the connection) 02.36.03 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 02.36.31 Quit domonoky (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 02.39.37 Join faemir [0] (n=daniel@88-106-242-222.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) 02.40.23 Quit moos ("Good night") 02.47.40 # New commit by 03kugel (r20792): Remove the backlight tick task in favor of handling timeouts through a 1s timeout in the backlight thread. 02.57.10 Part wincent ("Kopete 0.12.7 : http://kopete.kde.org") 03.13.19 Join perrikwp [0] (i=4aa794a0@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-7f8448a23d54851a) 03.13.31 Quit dmb ("Leaving") 03.15.10 Quit z35 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 03.18.19 Join CaptainKewl [0] (n=jds@207-237-172-77.c3-0.nyr-ubr4.nyr.ny.cable.rcn.com) 03.23.43 # New commit by 03kugel (r20793): Remove the calls to backlight_lcd_sleep_countdown from target specific code and move it into backlight.c 03.24.12 Quit roomtemperature (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 03.28.13 Join itcheg [0] (i=62db4767@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-fbd5b1e0dd20e491) 03.32.28 Join evilnick1 [0] (n=evilnick@pool-173-52-140-21.nycmny.east.verizon.net) 03.35.00 Join dmb [0] (n=dmb@unaffiliated/dmb) 03.35.23 # New commit by 03kugel (r20794): Replace the condition with a more obvious function call, which is the same. 03.40.32 Quit ender` (" In the beginning the Universe was created. 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Are you using zip 3.0? 10.34.34 Join petur [50] (n=petur@rockbox/developer/petur) 10.36.13 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 10.45.41 Quit petur (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 10.48.33 # bluebrother: What's the problem? rbutil's unzip lib can't handle files created by infozip 3.0? 10.49.25 # I'm not sure. The current Gigabeat F build doesn't unzip (though the lib doesn't produce errors, only a notice on the debug output). Same happens for UnhelpfulAA.zip from the themes server 10.49.58 # my suspicion is that it's related to zip 3.0 showing up in newer distros 10.50.18 # which would be a really ugly thing (if it's zip 3.0 related) 10.51.28 Quit bluebrother (Nick collision from services.) 10.51.33 Join bluebrother [0] (n=dom@rockbox/developer/bluebrother) 10.58.22 Quit l403 ("Ex-Chat") 10.58.38 Join l403_ [0] (n=l@85.132.159.239) 11.00.55 # * bluebrother goes building zip 3.0 to check the differences 11.03.06 # Maybe I found a (minor) documentation bug: on http://download.rockbox.org/manual/rockbox-ipodvideo/rockbox-buildch4.html#x7-820004.4.7 (helpful hints section) Main Menu → Settings → Playlist → Recursively Insert Directories should be Main Menu → Settings → General Settings → Playlist → Recursively Insert Directories (added general settings). If someone tells me "go for it" I file a report on flyspray. 11.03.07 Join ender` [0] (i=krneki@foo.eternallybored.org) 11.04.27 # Grahack: what's the bug? Is the menu path wrong? 11.05.16 Quit tchan (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 11.05.57 # yes, you have to enter General Settings after entering Settings 11.06.22 # In other words the Playlist menu is not under Settings but General Settings 11.06.23 # gimme a few minutes and I'll fix that immediately 11.11.45 # is it possible to search in one thread only on the forum (I'm trying to find something in the sansa v2 thread)? 11.12.55 # * bertrik spots a 'topic id' box in the advanced search 11.16.37 Quit flydutch ("/* empty */") 11.16.39 # bertrik: The "print" button shows you the entire thread on one page. You can then search in your browser. 11.17.51 # New commit by 03bluebrother (r20798): Fix wrong path to "Recursively Insert Directories" setting. Thanks to Grahack on IRC for pointing it out. 11.17.54 # linuxstb, thanks for the tip, I'm now using the topic id box, it works exactly as I expected 11.18.54 # heh, with CIA I don't need to state I fixed it :) 11.19.41 Join flydutch [0] (n=flydutch@host226-201-dynamic.15-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) 11.21.07 # crap, the created archives are completely different between infozip 2 and 3 :/ 11.22.52 # How so? My unzip (2.3) can unzip the Gigabeat F build (unless I downloaded the wrong one...) 11.26.45 # it's not unzip, it's the unzip class used 11.27.39 # I hoped the binary output of zip2 and zip3 isn't too different. Though I didn't expect that seriously. 11.29.27 # urgh. It _is_ zip 3.0 related. 11.29.59 Quit jordan` (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 11.30.18 # I can extract a zip file created with zip 2.3 fine but not one created with 3.0 11.30.44 # unzip itself doesn't have any problem 11.48.28 Join n1s [0] (n=n1s@rockbox/developer/n1s) 12.04.26 Quit A_M (" HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- Chicks dig it") 12.17.03 Quit sentenza (Remote closed the connection) 12.18.12 Quit linuxstb ("Leaving") 12.19.48 Quit _lifeless (Remote closed the connection) 12.22.41 Join midijunkie [0] (n=Miranda@pD954719E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 12.26.59 Join _lifeless [0] (n=lifeless@188.16.68.168) 12.28.59 Join gregzx [0] (n=chatzill@dsl203.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) 12.29.03 # could someone point me to some info about .m3u8 ? what are the differences with .m3u ? 12.29.49 # it is the same but utf-8 12.30.27 # By the way, everytime the manuals says RockBox will create a .m3u, it creates a .m3u8. Maybe it should be fixed ? 12.30.49 # probably 12.31.04 # I'll have a look in a bit 12.31.15 # (just woke up) 12.36.10 Join tvelocity [0] (n=tony@athedsl-4464931.home.otenet.gr) 12.36.15 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 12.40.12 # where should a wiki page about playlist formats belong ? something like http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/PlaylistFormats ? 12.42.47 # Grahack: I only see two uses of m3u that need changing to m3u8 - in "From the main menu" in "Working With Playlists" (where the menu path is also wrong) and in "Playlist Viewer Menu" Did you see any others? 12.43.41 # Grahack: what would you put in that page, we really only support one playlist format 12.44.03 # Oh, and the search plugin 12.44.12 Join moos [0] (i=mustapha@rockbox/staff/moos) 12.44.32 # I need to check which one that uses first :) 12.46.06 # ah, the search plugin still gives the results as .m3u not .m3u8 12.46.52 # n1s: in that page I'd explain what .m3u is (simple text file, and how to create (FAQ tip)) and what .m3u8 is (utf8 convert only), maybe few player specific links or other links that I met 12.47.40 # n1s: I just wanted to find some info, even minimal, about m3u8. I'd be happy to find such a page 12.48.26 # Grahack: if you find the info in the manual to be insufficient i think working on improving that is more usefull as people tend not to find those random documentation pages in the wiki 12.49.26 # Grahack: Perhaps a quick note about m3u8 at the beginning of Working with Playlists? 12.50.12 # BigBambi: no other place so far, and a note about .m3u8 would be great where you say 12.50.43 # Do you fancy having a go at writing something? I don't know what sort of info is needed 12.52.15 # I'll try to write some words about .m3u8, but what's wrong with a wiki page too ? This page could be a draft for us to elaborate the note at the beginning of Working with Playlists 12.53.19 # It is just that the wiki tends to get clogged up 12.53.20 # H'ray! My rockbox works 12.53.32 # But it won't load battery full 12.53.45 # It is difficult to keep everything up-to-date, and there is lots of old or wroong info there etc. 12.53.50 # In the manual it is easier 12.54.21 Join mirak [0] (n=mirak@81-66-70-98.rev.numericable.fr) 12.54.28 # I'm not fluent enough in English to understand fully what 'clogged up' means but I see 12.55.16 # blocked or full up with 12.55.38 # i.e. there are so many pages there, that finding the useful ones is already difficult 12.56.40 # New commit by 03alex (r20799): Change two occurences of m3u to m3u8, as this is what Rockbox saves in. Thanks to Grahack on IRC for pointing out. 12.56.52 Quit Seed ("cu, Andre") 12.57.00 # god, that bot is quick 12.57.22 # yeah, it posts the commit message before the commit command even returns on the client side 12.57.42 # It was about simultaneous here :) 12.58.11 # happosade, what player are you talking about? 12.58.23 # iPod 30gigs 13.01.40 Quit tessarakt ("Client exiting") 13.03.03 # happosade, I know nothing about that player, but maybe someone else here does 13.04.08 # is the player connected during this "doesn't load full"? 13.04.19 Join Lear [0] (i=chatzill@rockbox/developer/lear) 13.04.21 # the readout might be wrong if connected to power. 13.04.32 # bluebrother: no 13.04.41 # It load to about 60% 13.05.55 # New commit by 03kugel (r20800): FS#10158 - e200v2 button delay revisited by Michael Chicoine to fix some weirdnesses with button reading. 13.06.22 Join wincent [0] (n=wincent@dyndsl-091-096-000-117.ewe-ip-backbone.de) 13.08.51 Quit stripwax (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 13.14.21 *** Alert Mode level 1 13.14.21 # New commit by 03kugel (r20801): FS#10126 - lcd_e200v2 cleanup by Michael Chicoine 13.14.46 Quit fyrestorm (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 13.17.15 Quit g54pcys ("ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 3.0.6/2009011913]") 13.24.23 *** Alert Mode OFF 13.25.47 Join fyrestorm [0] (n=user@24.90.84.236) 13.27.26 # New commit by 03bluebrother (r20802): Update OSDaB Zip class to most current version from the projects svn repo (r7). 13.28.36 # wouldn't it be better to make the CIA bot message more compact? Of course it announces a new commit, or how can I create old commits? 13.28.58 # * bluebrother thinks of something like "r1234 by someone: foo" 13.32.12 Quit tvelocity (Remote closed the connection) 13.32.19 # bluebrother: i do indeed currently have Zip 3.0... can't say if i did when i uploaded :/ 13.35.47 # ok. Well, I have a hack to make it work again. 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I must manually shut it off, and then the alarm works. 15.49.18 # Grahack: There is a comment in the manual source there saying "% TODO this isn't quite right for all targets, I think" :) 15.49.45 # Does anyone know which targets setting the alarm shuts down the player? 15.49.56 # *for which targets 15.51.04 # great, if you want to know, my player is the iPod Video 80Go 15.51.32 # OK, I'll just need to know for the other players with alarms and then I can fix it 15.52.52 # one question about your dev team: do you have a key-values of people to know what player they have, to do like polls ? 15.53.16 Join dfkt [0] (i=dfkt@unaffiliated/dfkt) 15.53.22 # we have a list of people with a certain target so people know who to ask to test 15.53.34 # But there aren't really votes about anything 15.53.51 Part linuxstb ("Leaving") 15.53.58 # wasn't there a RockboxTesting page or something like that? 15.54.18 # well, I said 'polls' but it wasn't about voting, just target specific questions 15.54.37 # Most questions aren't specific to a specific target 15.55.03 # Rockbox tries to act the same (within hardware limitations) on all targets 15.55.46 # bluebrother: yeah, that's it - I couldn't remember the name 15.56.36 # about targets: yeah I'm seeing this, and it's really great, both from a geeky-philosophical and a geeky-techy point of view :) 15.57.18 # There are two layers to Rockbox essentially - firmware which is target specific (drivers etc) and apps which is target independant 15.58.02 # Grahack: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/KnowledgeMap and http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/RockboxTesting 15.58.07 # if that helps 15.58.41 Quit gregzx ("ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 3.0.9/2009040821]") 15.59.02 Join linuxstb [0] (n=linuxstb@rockbox/developer/linuxstb) 15.59.04 # I added myself to the list, the number of targets is impressive 15.59.51 # rockbox rules the DAP's world ;) 16.00.48 Join Lear [0] (i=chatzill@rockbox/developer/lear) 16.01.37 # thanks moos 16.02.29 # you are welcome 16.07.01 # about the targets, I thought that since the team seems very well organized, there could be an automated way to retrieve target specific info, or maybe you just use the forums 16.07.29 # I found another minor doc issue: http://download.rockbox.org/manual/rockbox-ipodvideo/rockbox-buildch5.html#x8-910005.7 Manage Settings section is at the end of the Settings menu on my player, after Recording Settings 16.08.12 Join codesquid [0] (n=quassel@kong.kawo1.RWTH-Aachen.DE) 16.11.23 # Grahack: yep, I'll fix 16.13.44 Join EternalRains [0] (n=Abztrkhi@c-24-127-231-171.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) 16.14.26 Quit linuxstb (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 16.16.18 Join SirFunk__ [0] (n=Sir@208-15-25-145.netsync.net) 16.18.02 Quit schrottplatz_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 16.18.26 Join schrottplatz_ [0] (n=max@g224217192.adsl.alicedsl.de) 16.20.30 # New commit by 03alex (r20804): Fix order of Recording settings and Manage settings in the manual. 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I just installed RockBox on my ipod 5G. I like this a _lot_, just wanted to show up in here and tell you guys that I'm thankful for it. 19.15.07 Quit saratoga_home ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 19.15.10 Quit robin0800 (No route to host) 19.15.13 Quit qball ("CGI:IRC") 19.15.27 Join qball [0] (n=c636cae2@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-a710df3e275a4043) 19.16.23 # koolatron: o/ 19.20.26 Join jordan` [0] (n=jordan@nor75-6-82-227-165-47.fbx.proxad.net) 19.20.51 Quit qball ("CGI:IRC") 19.21.02 Join qball [0] (n=c636caea@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-a99beb6b1f3949aa) 19.22.00 Quit robin0800_ (No route to host) 19.22.47 Quit qball (Client Quit) 19.31.49 Quit robin0800__ (No route to host) 19.35.28 Quit jeffdameth (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 19.35.46 Quit {phoenix} (Remote closed the connection) 19.37.40 Join jeffdameth [0] (n=jeff@dyndsl-095-033-064-214.ewe-ip-backbone.de) 19.51.44 # it seems no other easy-to-find SOC uses the same USB OTG core as the AS3525 19.53.39 Quit goffa___1 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 19.55.14 # https://www.synopsys.com/dw/doc.php/ss/austriamicrosystems_ss.pdf 19.56.21 # how can you know that from that pdf? 19.57.13 # sorry, there was a missing piece of sentence : that pdf confirms that the 3525 has the HS USB 2.0 OTG core 19.57.36 # I've tried looking for other SOCs that have the same USB core, but didn't find anything 19.57.44 # right, that's true 19.58.08 # and as I was saying earlier, AMD's 5536 probably has an entirely different core (host only, no OTG) 19.58.15 # I contacted synopsys... 19.58.27 # response: 19.58.33 # [that is nothing] 19.59.04 # hm, just no answer at all or "you're on your own, dudes" 19.59.20 # no answer at all 20.01.25 # I might try a document request using my university e-mail, without reference to Rockbox 20.01.39 # unless that's against rockbox's principles ? 20.02.09 # if you get the docs for fine use, then we should be good. 20.02.29 # chances are very slim anyway, and if you get it you'll probably need to sign NDAs and stuff 20.02.35 # I'll certainly give it a try 20.02.37 # yeah, probably 20.05.35 Join jmillikin [0] (n=jmilliki@c-24-130-159-24.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) 20.11.39 Join {phoenix} [0] (n=dirk@p54B465A3.dip.t-dialin.net) 20.12.27 Quit {phoenix} (Remote closed the connection) 20.13.31 # well, I can download the two PDF files from http://www.synopsys.com/dw/ipdir.php?ds=dwc_usb_2_0_hs_otg but they're not really datasheets, more like detailed brochures 20.13.41 Nick bagawk_ is now known as bagawk (n=lee@c-98-232-168-140.hsd1.or.comcast.net) 20.19.38 Quit JdGordon (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 20.21.50 # bluebrother: It is, problems? 20.27.31 Quit BHSPitLappy (Remote closed the connection) 20.36.19 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 20.40.34 # jhulst: it seems you have zip version 3 running. I discovered issues with rbutil which are in fact related to zip 3 -- not an issue anymore, committed a workaround. 20.41.43 Join toffe82 [0] (n=chatzill@adsl-75-3-221-83.dsl.frs2ca.sbcglobal.net) 20.49.28 # bluebrother: alright, It's just running Debian Testing, so sounds like that is the up and coming version... 20.51.19 # New commit by 03dreamlayers (r20806): Remove workaround for FS#10130 from 5G iPod LCD sleep code 21.03.59 Join JdGordon [0] (n=jonno@c-67-160-44-90.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) 21.21.36 Join Sedgewick [0] (n=Sedgewic@net-93-145-233-144.t2.dsl.vodafone.it) 21.27.10 Quit [Jasper] () 21.32.00 Join fyrestorm [0] (n=user@cpe-24-90-84-236.nyc.res.rr.com) 21.39.01 Quit jordan` (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 21.41.03 Quit JdGordon (Remote closed the connection) 21.42.42 Join Djalal [0] (n=Djalal@bas1-montreal45-1177632572.dsl.bell.ca) 21.49.49 # hi MT 21.49.51 # saratoga : Hi 21.50.04 # I discovered a bug in the converter 21.50.53 # all the samples that worked correctly had avg_packet_size = frame_size (using same parameter names of rm header) 21.51.40 # however, today I tried a sample where packet size = 580 and frame_size = 564 and sub_packet_h = 14 21.52.38 # the packet count was 1012, so the decoder should produce 1012 * (frame_size/sub_packet_size) frames 21.53.19 # sub_packet_size = 94 .. so we have 6 sub_packets (audio frames) within 1 packet (frame as called by rm) 21.53.31 Join kugel [0] (i=kugel@rockbox/developer/kugel) 21.53.41 # MT: you're working out of the SVN repo at https://rm-wavconverter.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/rm-wavconverter right? 21.53.50 # yes 21.54.28 # I'm a bit sleepy right now, so stop me whenever you feel I'm talking gibberish :) 21.54.59 # so that code doesn't even use avg_packet_size right now except to print it? 21.55.17 # yes, and neither does ffmpeg's demuxer 21.55.56 # ah so its probably just a hint for anyone trying to seek through a file 21.57.07 # when I tried converting this sample, I had to break the decoding loop whenever packet_count was < sub_packet_h 21.57.41 Quit Sedgewick ("off") 21.58.29 # which would result in 4 extra undecoded packets ( and a 2-second difference between my output wav file and ffmpeg's) 21.58.43 Join SirFunk_ [0] (n=Sir@208-15-25-145.netsync.net) 21.58.59 # 1012 % 14 = 4 <-- extra packets 21.59.47 Quit SirFunk (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 21.59.50 # i read through your wikipage and grepped the source code but i still don't really understand what sub_packet_h is used for 22.00.01 # its just part of that weird scrambling formula? 22.00.37 # it also represents the number of _packets_ per one scrambling unit 22.01.21 # in this sample, h = 14 which would make 1 scrambling unit contain 14 packets == 14*6 sub_packets 22.02.20 # 6 comes from which variable? 22.02.45 # 6 is frame_size (564) / sub_packet_size (94) 22.03.52 # ah ok 22.04.15 Quit z35 (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 22.04.17 # when you get a chance could you put an example like this on the wiki? it'll help me in a week when I can't remember ewhat you just said 22.05.39 # sure 22.06.11 # so if I understand, then there are sub packets which are combined to form packets/frames (which are not always the same size?), and the packets are then scrambled together using that formula 22.06.25 # exactly 22.06.41 # frames are the MDCT transform blocks in cook.c right? 22.07.12 Quit schrottplatz ("o.O") 22.08.09 # I believe yes 22.08.56 # but frames here = sub_packets (again, some weird rm stuff) 22.09.30 # each subpacket is about one frame? 22.09.38 # yes 22.10.06 # how confusing 22.10.18 # yes :/ .. 22.11.07 # that's why input buffer always copies a block with size = sub_packet_size from the scrambling unit 22.11.19 # whats the point of having frames and packets as seperate units then? the decoder should work in untis of its "frame" variable, but if that corrisponds to a subpacket, whats the sense in having another frame variable? 22.12.01 # do they have some sort of bit resivior where easily compressed frames can give bits to latter frames in the same packet? 22.12.59 # I'm not really following .. which frame variable are you referring to ? 22.13.17 # sorry 22.13.54 # are subpackets always the same size? 22.14.28 Join z35 [0] (n=z35@h129.116.131.174.dynamic.ip.windstream.net) 22.15.21 # yes, I'll ask merbanan to check, but I'm kind of sure they are 22.15.39 # (codec) frames aren't always the same size 22.16.02 # so probably what happens is that a subpacket contains no less then one (codec) frame, but can contain more then one 22.16.21 Join JdGordon [0] (n=jonno@rockbox/developer/JdGordon) 22.16.24 # so the packet is probably made to contain a whole number of (codec) frames or something like that 22.17.32 # uhm, if this were true, wouldn't that result in a distorted output ? 22.19.18 # because every once in a while the decoder receives an 'incomplete' audio frame .. consequently it outputs an incorrectly decoded buffer ( correct me? ) 22.19.25 Join EternalRains [0] (n=Abztrkhi@c-24-127-231-171.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) 22.19.25 Join Thundercloud [0] (i=thunderc@persistence.flat.devzero.co.uk) 22.20.50 # that wasn't the case with this sample however. The decoding was correct except that the duration of my output file was 2mins, 20seconds while that of ffmpeg's was longer by 2 seconds (which contained audio) 22.21.51 # i haven't looked at cook, but I'd guess that the parser retrives whatever the smallest number of bytes that must contain an integer number of frames 22.22.06 # or else theres someway for the codec to give back bytes it didn't need to decode for a frame 22.22.50 # there has to be someway, since (codec) frames cann't all be the same size without wasting a lot of space 22.23.32 Quit bluebrother (Nick collision from services.) 22.23.37 Join bluebrother [0] (n=dom@rockbox/developer/bluebrother) 22.25.47 # I think I found the FM i2c code for the c200v2 22.26.06 # it uses the same pins as the clip (B4=SCL, B5=SDA) 22.28.25 # saratoga : I'll try converting the same sample with ffmpeg and see if there's any difference in the initialized parameters 22.28.42 Quit DaCapn (Remote closed the connection) 22.29.45 Join DaCapn [0] (i=dacapn@using.your.wireless-inter.net) 22.35.17 Join barrywardell [0] (n=barrywar@79.97.77.138) 22.36.20 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 22.36.27 # New commit by 03bluebrother (r20807): Bump rbutil version to 1.2.1. 22.38.16 # New commit by 03bluebrother (r20808): Tag rbutil 1.2.1 release. 22.39.03 # figuring out the display would be more useful for the c200v2, though 22.39.45 # saratoga : just had an idea, maybe the few remaining packets are a fraction of a scrambling unit, so that I would construct another scrambling unit that would contain only the few remaining frames ? 22.40.09 # Hi, i will like to know your opinion on Rockbox on iPhone... theoricaly is it possible to do it? i was thinking about an dualboot with the original OS 22.40.30 # It would make more sense as an app IMO 22.40.37 # Djalal: theoretical?...sure...but it would....what he said 22.40.54 # MT: sorry i need to run 22.42.08 # no problem, I'll try and inform you on any news 22.42.56 Quit bmbl ("Woah!") 22.44.39 Join {phoenix} [0] (n=dirk@p54B465A3.dip.t-dialin.net) 22.45.10 # rockbox as an iPhone app... neat idea anyways 22.45.39 # of course, it would have to be on a jailbroken iphone 22.46.38 # such a thing is becoming the norm for some app designers 22.47.26 # sad yet off-topic and true, most VoIP applications I looked at from commercial providers are requiring a jailbroken phone in the "How To" instructions 22.47.46 # if it is off-topic, then why say it here? 22.47.57 # I'm done discussing it. 22.48.02 # ... 22.48.06 # you brought it up? 22.48.35 # i brought up an on-topic discussion of how a rockbox iphone app would have to be 22.53.24 # on-topic then, any clue why mp3 playback causes a reboot on sansa ams targets? 22.53.36 Quit moos ("Rockbox rules the DAP world") 22.54.57 # probably a bug somewhere 22.56.23 # lucent: The AMS players are still undergoing a lot of work. 22.57.04 # If someone has a theory about what's wrong, they *should* post it in the forum to share with others working on it. 22.59.19 # okay, forums are good to check then? thanks 23.00.00 Quit fyrestorm (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 23.00.12 # Pretty much all knowledge should either be in the AMS players forum thread in New Ports, or in the wiki pages specific to that port. 23.00.26 # Unless someone's not sharing yet (for whatever reason) 23.01.14 Nick Djalal is now known as djalal90 (n=Djalal@bas1-montreal45-1177632572.dsl.bell.ca) 23.02.21 # I haven't seen any spontaneous reboots on my sansa clip, I do occasionally see something that looks like a PCM hang 23.02.39 # the m200v4 has a know bug where reboots occur when volume is high 23.02.48 # My clip, with a build a few days old, froze on me about 30 seconds into the first song I played. 23.02.49 # i've seen a neat pcm bug on the clip where a tone sweeps in volume as rockbox hangs 23.02.50 # No reboot though. 23.04.58 Join tessarakt [0] (n=jens@e180079185.adsl.alicedsl.de) 23.05.43 # I've been able to play FLAC reliably on Sansa Fuze 23.06.44 # should it make any difference which MP3 encoder produces the file I am playing back? 23.07.15 # probably not, I get occasional weirdness with other codecs too 23.07.39 # lucent: the mp3 reboot is resolved since some time 23.07.43 # maybe VBR vs CBR makes a difference 23.07.59 # kugel: I admit it has been weeks since I built and tested 23.08.25 # kugel: any existing issue you want me to test on 8gb fuze? 23.08.39 # don't bother reported bugs in old software 23.08.43 # its very annoying 23.08.49 # then get up-to-date before chatting about in-development targets 23.08.53 # okay 23.08.56 # sorry about that! 23.08.59 # since people like I will assume you have the sense not to do it 23.09.39 # when I tested the >1gb patch, it rebooted on an mp3 playback 23.09.51 # so that's the last build I made and reported on 23.09.58 Quit {phoenix} (Remote closed the connection) 23.10.00 # yeah that was fixed ages ago 23.11.27 Quit JdGordon (Remote closed the connection) 23.12.28 Join jordan` [0] (n=jordan@nor75-6-82-227-165-47.fbx.proxad.net) 23.13.00 # saratoga : fixed ! \o/ .. I just have to correctly calculate filesize now which isn't a big deal. 23.13.26 # Constructing a partially filled scrambling unit worked 23.13.27 # great! 23.14.04 # now I can sleep ;) 23.14.05 Join JdGordon [0] (n=Miranda@c-67-160-44-90.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) 23.14.41 # saratoga, I think I've run into the sweep-like thing too , sounded quite weird :P 23.15.15 # by the way, thanks for enabling m4a's on the clip 23.15.22 # kugel: is the SansaAMSHardwareMappings page up to date for the clip? 23.15.26 Join SirFunk__ [0] (n=Sir@208-15-25-145.netsync.net) 23.15.26 # sorry for the fuze? 23.15.41 # bertrik: no problem, but i think only very short files will work 23.15.52 # saratoga: I think so, yes 23.16.20 # so it has way less port pins used then the clip? 23.16.45 # doesn't the wheel use several pins? 23.16.58 Quit SirFunk_ (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 23.17.08 # bluebrother, domonoky: What's missing to fix the theme site? 23.17.35 # bluebrother, domonoky: I gathered that you had fixed rbutil now? 23.17.39 # rasher: i added the missing targets, i hope i have done it right :-) 23.18.25 # domonoky: Ah, so it's just the text descriptions of the targets that need changing now? 23.18.27 # but now atleast the ipod mini1g needs to be renamed on the theme site. 23.18.39 # saratoga: up to date != comnplete :) 23.19.10 # the wheel doesn't use even 1 pin 23.19.10 # domonoky: Right, I haven't created a web interface for that yet, since it should happen relatively rarely.. I'll just fix them manually 23.19.19 # thats fine. 23.19.48 # I still think we should do a Big Target Renaming[tm] at some point, but we're good for now? 23.20.39 Quit martian67 (Connection reset by peer) 23.21.59 Quit JdGordon (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 23.22.03 # uh oh, messed up 23.22.34 Part djalal90 ("10.4") 23.22.56 Join martian67 [0] (n=martian6@about/linux/regular/martian67) 23.25.01 # saratoga : filesize is fixed too, now producing the same output with the same duration 23.25.38 # domonoky: should be good now. 23.26.00 Quit Zoxc () 23.26.23 # rasher: then it should be fine now :-) did you check if i have done the m3 correctly ? 23.27.14 Join SirFunk_ [0] (n=Sir@208-15-25-145.netsync.net) 23.28.03 # domonoky: Looks correct to me 23.28.37 # New commit by 03bertrik (r20809): Enable FM radio on the sansa c200v2 (untested). 23.29.24 # Has anyone tried the Fuze bootloader with version 1.02.26 of the OF ? or is the bootloader safe enough to not rely on OF versions.. 23.29.54 # fenugrec: yes, it worked for me 23.30.06 # ok thanks 23.30.31 # I'm treading carefully here, as I'd rather not brick my nice fuze ! 23.30.46 # fenugrec, I think mkamsboot will warn if you try a currently unknown version (but will allow you to proceed anyway IIRC) 23.30.53 # Bagder: can you please move this: http://jdgordon.info/~domonoky/rbutilqt-v1.2.1.dmg to the download server ? 23.30.54 Quit bzed (Remote closed the connection) 23.30.57 Join bzed [0] (n=bzed@devel.recluse.de) 23.31.25 # Bagder: w32 binary here (linux still building): http://www.alice-dsl.net/dominik.riebeling/rockbox/ 23.32.31 # done! 23.34.42 # kugel: okay, today's SVN build works great on Fuze 8gb 23.35.05 # does anyone think that support for the iPod videos Video decoder chip will ever be supported by rockbox? I know that there is missing documentation for it now, but could the OF video playback be reverse engineeded or isnt this possible? 23.37.55 # yes it can be RE'd 23.38.44 # ooh, got little pricklies in the neck here... forgot to copy .rockbox and got a "File not found" during boot 23.39.17 # Bagder: so its just a matter of finding someone to take the time and do that then to figure out how the chip works at decoding? 23.39.27 # scripting on windows is a real PITA :( 23.40.02 # froggyman: yes, that's the only little teeny thing left to do... 23.40.03 # hm, can "Rockbox does NOT run on the AMS players, which the Fuze belongs to. " be updated on http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/SansaFuze ? 23.40.19 Quit SirFunk__ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 23.41.59 # lucent: it can be updated, but that is still correct -- it does not run from a users point of view. It does run once we provide builds 23.42.28 # bluebrother: 64 bit linux build needed? 23.42.30 # it might be a good thing to be a bit more detailed on that statement though 23.42.44 # okay, I'll let it be 23.42.46 # rasher: sure -- I only have 32 bit 23.42.56 # I'll get on it. 23.45.13 Quit domonoky (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 23.45.17 # Bagder: linux binary uploaded 23.45.55 # done 23.46.11 # *gnah* 23.46.20 # * bluebrother spots that he forgot to strip the linux binary 23.46.30 # Bagder:ok thanks, thats what i thought, would be cool to be able to play Mpeg4 videos on rockbox, hopefully it will happen someday 23.48.42 # Bagder: updated linux binary to reduce file size ... can you move once more? 23.48.50 # sure 23.49.14 Join bs66_1 [0] (n=sysuser@79.138.128.123.bredband.tre.se) 23.49.36 Join __lifeless [0] (n=lifeless@188.16.67.170) 23.49.43 # getting that 3.8MB package to the download master takes 5 seconds 23.50.13 # bluebrother: so does this release fix both the complete installation bug and the bit with the themes site? 23.52.15 # complete installation bug? Which? 23.58.13 Quit _lifeless (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))