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The other patchers should help. 03.07.41 # I also had to modify the Makefile for beastpatcher to point to /usr/local/lib for libmtp.a and libusb.a; for some reason that's where they installed to when I ran make install on each of them. 03.07.51 # linuxstb: I'll check them out. 03.08.54 Quit intrados (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 03.12.39 Quit _Auron_ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 03.13.17 Join _Auron_ [0] (n=DarkAuro@ppp-70-249-149-60.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net) 03.13.21 # why would request_buffer return a few bytes less then requested for the end of a file? 03.15.38 Quit l403 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 03.16.57 Join l403 [0] (n=l@85.132.159.239) 03.18.15 # http://lambdacalculus379.pastebin.com/d5243538 <-- beastpatcher makefile and http://lambdacalculus379.pastebin.com/m47aca639 <-- iPodpatcher Makefile for comparison. 03.19.28 # I'm figuring that adding ($SRC) and ($BOOTSRC) before and after the required files to compile beastpatcher (line 4 on the beastpatcher pastebin) may help it. 03.20.08 Join evilnick [0] (n=evilnick@pool-173-52-140-21.nycmny.east.verizon.net) 03.24.38 # my searches on the forums and the patch tracker have totally failed me. Didn't someone (dreamlayers?) discuss the idea of shutting off the iPod (5g only?) codec when playback was halted to save power? 03.26.06 # soap: I think it was dreamlayers that was talking about that. 03.26.39 # do you have any idea where? I was 99% sure it wasn't here in IRC, but I'm finding no mention of it elsewhere. 03.26.56 # soap: I don't remember, sorry. 03.26.58 Quit l403 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 03.27.21 # * LambdaCalculus37 also noticed that it's $(SRC) and $(BOOTSRC) he needs to append, not ($SRC) and ($BOOTSRC) :) 03.28.00 Join l403 [0] (n=l@85.132.159.239) 03.32.48 Join soap_ [50] (n=soap@rockbox/staff/soap) 03.33.36 # soap_: http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=21172.0 03.35.26 # thank you very much, saratoga. Hmm, that didn't come up with my search of codec sleep ipod power 03.49.31 # http://lambdacalculus379.pastebin.com/m4c91a901 <-- Modified beastpatch Makefile; still giving me errors: http://lambdacalculus379.pastebin.com/m6fa1a059 04.02.26 Quit gevaerts (Nick collision from services.) 04.02.38 Join gevaerts [0] (n=fg@rockbox/developer/gevaerts) 04.04.50 # best FS category for core jpeg decode? WPS (although it's not use for AA loads yet)? 04.08.30 Join CaptainKwel [0] (n=jason@207-237-172-77.c3-0.nyr-ubr4.nyr.ny.cable.rcn.com) 04.15.13 # I'd say yes 04.15.26 # Since it's intended for that, and that's likely what the final version of the patch will be. 04.19.22 # anybody testing the test_core_jpeg plugin on targets would be appreciated - the decoder is up as FS#10177. 04.29.34 Quit Lss (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 04.38.06 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 04.49.01 Quit miepchen^schlaf (Read error: 101 (Network is unreachable)) 04.54.03 Join evilnick1 [0] (n=evilnick@pool-173-52-140-21.nycmny.east.verizon.net) 04.54.14 Quit fdinel ("Miranda IM! 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These problems are usually to do with asking the CPU inside the iPod to do too much all at once and Rockbox cannot decode the audio in realtime. 06.42.40 # mp3 files are easier to decode 06.43.05 # aac takes more work to decode 06.44.23 # evilnick1: thankyou so much 06.46.10 # No problem! You can see some information on this page about how quickly Rockbox can decode each codec: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/CodecPerformanceComparison 06.46.41 # Although some of the data is from old builds and there will have been improvements since that time. 06.55.27 Quit _lifeless (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 07.01.23 Quit AndyIL (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 07.04.57 Join AndyI [0] (i=AndyI@212.14.205.32) 07.07.49 # New commit by 03alle (r20831): Remove the (part of the) check that is actually not needed since the 'properties' section is optional 07.07.52 Join evilnick [0] (n=evilnick@pool-173-52-140-21.nycmny.east.verizon.net) 07.09.06 Quit StealthyXIIGer (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 07.21.46 Quit evilnick1 (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 07.31.24 Quit jmillikin (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 08.25.47 Join Willwolfe [0] (n=Willwolf@net49-116.netkaster.ca) 08.30.21 Quit Willwolfe (" HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- Now with extra fish!") 08.30.25 Join Willwolfe [0] (n=Willwolf@net49-116.netkaster.ca) 08.31.20 Part Willwolfe 08.31.34 Join Willwolfe [0] (n=Willwolf@net49-116.netkaster.ca) 08.32.26 Part Willwolfe 08.32.47 Join Rob2222 [0] (n=Miranda@p4FDCE862.dip.t-dialin.net) 08.33.12 Join ender` [0] (i=krneki@foo.eternallybored.org) 08.34.13 # FS#10178 JPEG AA - i'll get to work shortly on some builds. 08.36.17 Join Willwolfe [0] (n=Willwolf@net49-116.netkaster.ca) 08.37.42 Part Willwolfe 08.38.04 Join Willwolfe [0] (n=Willwolf@net49-116.netkaster.ca) 08.38.12 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 08.38.53 Part Willwolfe 08.39.50 # Unhelpful: Is it too early to estimate binsize increase? As in, is it likely to shrink significantly from what will be your test builds, or are optimizations in size unlikely? 08.47.23 Join Villen86 [0] (n=6395c0dd@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-955eb204a14029fd) 08.49.25 # :) 08.49.55 # Llorean: i don't see any low-hanging fruit right now in terms of size optimization. the 16-point IDCT could go, but would then need to be replaced with some other means of getting subsampled chroma scaled up, since the scaler only supports rgb888 input. i did note that the 16-point expanded IDCT uses some interesting tricks to reduce the amount of math done for rounding, and this could possibly be incorporated into the other IDCT. 08.50.29 Quit Villen86 (Client Quit) 08.50.30 Quit Rob2223 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 08.53.02 # hrm, also, scaling down to output data ranges could be moved out of the IDCT routines - just as dequantization already is. i was a bit wary of doing this, as it means writing the data back to the IDCT working array as ints one more time before they get converted to unsigned char, but it might save a *bit* of space - in particular, the idct1h routine would become a no-op. 08.54.14 # un-inlining the various bitstream operations would also save some binsize, probably quite a bit, but at a speed cost. 08.54.45 Part jingjing 08.56.05 Quit feisar_ ("leaving") 08.56.22 Join feisar [0] (i=jljhook@irkki.fi) 08.56.50 Nick feisar is now known as Guest72668 (i=jljhook@irkki.fi) 09.05.16 Join KBH [0] (i=hbk@pool-71-96-74-73.dfw.dsl-w.verizon.net) 09.06.14 Quit tessarakt ("Client exiting") 09.06.44 Join petur [50] (n=petur@rockbox/developer/petur) 09.06.54 Nick Guest72668 is now known as feisar- (i=jljhook@irkki.fi) 09.14.09 # amiconn: actually, if we add an optional seek offset for bufopen, and if the file is parsed for metadata before AA search is attempted, embedded AA might not be too hard - if you find an embedded AA, store the offset to it (maybe in a new struct id3 field?), then try to open that before searching for an external AA file. 09.15.17 # i'm not sure exactly *how* best to attempt something like that... also, sync-safe ID3 tags with embedded AA won't work, as read_jpeg_fd will have no idea that its bitstream requires special de-mangling 09.18.55 Join intrados [0] (n=intrados@cpe-71-67-129-220.woh.res.rr.com) 09.19.43 Quit intrados (SendQ exceeded) 09.20.28 Join Thundercloud [0] (i=thunderc@persistence.flat.devzero.co.uk) 09.20.50 # and then add whatever-weird-format-people-use-for-embedded-album-art support to the core? ;) 09.21.37 # geez, isn't jpeg enough? 09.21.42 # * pixelma once saw something like 500x500 pixels wide PNGs in ID3 tag 09.22.31 Quit HBK (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 09.22.58 Join intrados [0] (n=intrados@cpe-71-67-129-220.woh.res.rr.com) 09.23.42 Join bertrik [0] (n=bertrik@ip117-49-211-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl) 09.23.46 Quit intrados (SendQ exceeded) 09.24.30 Quit intrados_ (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 09.24.48 # if we're going to support bmp, jpeg, and png in core, we should maybe think about having a dedicated buffer for loadable image codecs :P 09.25.45 # and then support embedded mpeg-2! :-O 09.26.53 Join intrados [0] (n=intrados@cpe-71-67-129-220.woh.res.rr.com) 09.29.49 # Bagder: it's ideas like that that made me say i would try to find some way to sabotage core jpeg so that it could never be used for embedded AA :P 09.32.04 # mixed AA (different formats) would be another cause for spinups :/ 09.32.29 Quit intrados (Remote closed the connection) 09.32.52 # petur: not really, AA is loaded on buffer and stored as an LCD-native bitmap 09.33.20 # a, it is buffered as decoded image, for all buffered songs? 09.33.37 Join intrados [0] (n=intrados@cpe-71-67-129-220.woh.res.rr.com) 09.34.23 Quit intrados (SendQ exceeded) 09.34.49 # petur: as i understand it, yes. so there wouldn't be any extra spinups, but if songs buffering back-to-back keep changing AA formats, it would be a lot of extra disk reads. 09.35.08 # ok 09.37.15 # i don't think it makes any sense until we have at least three image formats - right now JPEG + BMP probably takes up not much more space than would be needed for the largest image loader (JPEG) and an image codec manager and interface, i'd think... 09.38.01 Join HBK- [0] (i=hbk@pool-71-96-74-73.dfw.dsl-w.verizon.net) 09.39.54 Join nibbler [0] (n=Nibbler@pD9E33A7D.dip.t-dialin.net) 09.41.40 Join intrados [0] (n=intrados@cpe-71-67-129-220.woh.res.rr.com) 09.42.26 Join flydutch [0] (n=flydutch@host219-166-dynamic.15-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) 09.42.28 Quit intrados (SendQ exceeded) 09.46.58 Quit faemir ("Leaving") 09.47.04 Join intrados [0] (n=intrados@cpe-71-67-129-220.woh.res.rr.com) 09.52.34 Join HBK [0] (i=hbk@pool-71-96-74-73.dfw.dsl-w.verizon.net) 09.52.49 Quit intrados (Remote closed the connection) 09.53.21 # w00t ! cook is now working in fixed-point ! (might still need some work to see if it actually uses floats anywhere, because it's ffmpeg's fixed-point patch) 09.53.46 Join intrados [0] (n=intrados@cpe-71-67-129-220.woh.res.rr.com) 09.54.36 Quit intrados (SendQ exceeded) 09.55.12 Quit KBH (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 09.55.24 Join KBH [0] (i=hbk@pool-71-96-74-73.dfw.dsl-w.verizon.net) 09.56.03 # saratoga : I checked out the same old cook.c I told you about, kept applying the patches one by one, and done failed hunks by hand , then I changed the patched file to use rmctx .. etc like cook.c in the rm-wav converter. I had to modify dsputil.h and get an old fft.c too. 09.57.12 # saratoga : I tried it first with "//#define COOK_FIXPOINT" to use the floating point part of it, since it's supposed to give the same output as the old converter, and it did 09.57.33 Quit Thundercloud (Remote closed the connection) 09.57.45 # finally I uncommented "#define COOK_FIXPOINT" to use the fixed point math instead. worked and produced the same output. 09.59.02 # MT: great! 09.59.24 # markun : Hi :) .. Thanks a lot 09.59.53 # working on a stand-alone decoder right now? 10.01.17 # yep, and a quick look through both cook.c and the fixed-point headers shows that floats are totally eliminated ! 10.01.56 # What about the rm container, does it need much work? 10.02.05 Join intrados [0] (n=intrados@cpe-71-67-129-220.woh.res.rr.com) 10.02.45 # sorry, much work in what sense ? 10.02.59 # you mean fixed point conversion too ? 10.03.31 # I thought that linuxstb already had written some code so I was wondering if there was much left to do 10.04.09 # oh no, the parser was finished like 5 days ago. 10.04.21 # markun: I just started work on a parser. MT finished it. 10.04.43 # the only remaining part is to read the indx chunk, but afaik it's not important in the conversion and playback 10.05.22 # it seems like I could start porting to rockbox soon .. but I can't delay cleaning the code up anymore :) 10.05.37 # and no mallocs in cook? 10.05.49 # :( forgot about that. 10.06.01 # no there are mallocs 10.06.20 # so does rockbox support jpg album art now? 10.06.20 # you can always try to get away with one of the fake mallocs we have :) 10.06.55 # I'll first try to see if I can predetermine a fixed max. size for every thing that needs malloc 10.07.21 Quit intrados (Remote closed the connection) 10.07.31 # for those that I can't do this to, I'll use the codec api for allocation.. 10.07.33 # martian67: it does if you patch it and build it yourself... 10.07.40 # :( 10.09.03 Join intrados [0] (n=intrados@cpe-71-67-129-220.woh.res.rr.com) 10.09.07 Quit HBK- (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 10.09.39 # MT: ok, that sounds like the right thing to do. Can't wait to play my rm files natively :) (radio recordings, now I transcode them) 10.09.48 # martian67: it's on flyspray. it comes at a rather large cost in terms of new code, so i'd like to wait until i get opinions from other devs. also, it's less than a day old, and there should really be more than one person who's tested it before it's merged. :P 10.11.24 # heheh :) 10.11.33 # you are gonna get pushback ;) 10.11.36 # gj though 10.11.42 Join HBK- [0] (i=hbk@pool-71-96-74-73.dfw.dsl-w.verizon.net) 10.11.54 # markun : you'll have to get me a present when rm is complete :P 10.11.54 Quit linuxstb (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 10.12.10 Join emmanuel [0] (n=emmanuel@p57998478.dip.t-dialin.net) 10.12.39 Quit HBK (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 10.14.37 Quit intrados (Broken pipe) 10.15.48 # markun : the fake mallocs in codec API .. are there certain limits to their usage ? 10.16.20 Join intrados [0] (n=intrados@cpe-71-67-129-220.woh.res.rr.com) 10.20.25 Join linuxstb [0] (n=linuxstb@rockbox/developer/linuxstb) 10.21.01 Quit intrados (SendQ exceeded) 10.23.30 # MT: You should try and avoid malloc - most other codecs don't use it. 10.23.53 Join intrados [0] (n=intrados@cpe-71-67-129-220.woh.res.rr.com) 10.24.04 # But the limitation will be that the codec only has 512KB of RAM - that include the code, data and the buffer used by the malloc. 10.24.17 # (maybe smaller than 512KB on some targets) 10.26.08 # linuxstb : fine, I'll trace those mallocs and see how I could avoid them. I think I'll have to slow down a little to start preparing for my finals 10.27.55 # But it sounds like good progress. 10.28.25 Quit intrados (SendQ exceeded) 10.29.42 Quit KBH (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 10.30.05 Join intrados [0] (n=intrados@cpe-71-67-129-220.woh.res.rr.com) 10.31.18 Quit intrados (SendQ exceeded) 10.31.36 Join Grahack [0] (n=chri@ip-142.net-82-216-221.nantes.rev.numericable.fr) 10.35.07 Quit bertrik (Remote closed the connection) 10.35.21 Join intrados [0] (n=intrados@cpe-71-67-129-220.woh.res.rr.com) 10.35.31 # amiconn: i noticed an interesting optimization in the jpeg-7-pre 16x IDCT - the DC coefficient gets the rounding factor added to it at the begining of the calculation, and since the DC component contributes equally to each element of the output, they all can all be rounded correctly with a plain right shift, instead of the add+shift math that the DESCALE macro uses. 10.36.09 Quit intrados (SendQ exceeded) 10.36.41 Join bertrik [0] (n=bertrik@ip117-49-211-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl) 10.37.25 Join intrados [0] (n=intrados@cpe-71-67-129-220.woh.res.rr.com) 10.38.15 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 10.38.29 Quit intrados (SendQ exceeded) 10.38.48 Join wincent [0] (n=wincent@dyndsl-091-096-000-117.ewe-ip-backbone.de) 10.39.09 Quit wincent (Client Quit) 10.39.36 Join wincent [0] (n=wincent@dyndsl-091-096-000-117.ewe-ip-backbone.de) 10.40.25 Join intrados [0] (n=intrados@cpe-71-67-129-220.woh.res.rr.com) 10.40.48 Join Seed [0] (n=ben@bzq-84-108-232-45.cablep.bezeqint.net) 10.42.13 Quit intrados (SendQ exceeded) 10.43.37 Join intrados [0] (n=intrados@cpe-71-67-129-220.woh.res.rr.com) 10.44.00 Join l403 [0] (n=l@85.132.159.239) 10.50.48 Join screamsayonara [0] (n=screamsa@c211-31-7-27.rochd5.qld.optusnet.com.au) 10.52.02 Join intrados_ [0] (n=intrados@cpe-71-67-129-220.woh.res.rr.com) 10.52.20 Quit intrados (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 10.52.52 Quit intrados_ (SendQ exceeded) 10.54.19 Join intrados_ [0] (n=intrados@cpe-71-67-129-220.woh.res.rr.com) 10.59.50 Quit intrados_ (Remote closed the connection) 11.00.57 Join intrados_ [0] (n=intrados@cpe-71-67-129-220.woh.res.rr.com) 11.14.28 Join midijunkie [0] (n=Miranda@eduroam-196-214.uni-paderborn.de) 11.15.22 Quit midijunkie (Client Quit) 11.26.07 Quit BHSPitMonkey (Remote closed the connection) 11.31.27 Join petur2 [50] (n=petur@rockbox/developer/petur) 11.32.41 Quit petur (Nick collision from services.) 11.32.44 Nick petur2 is now known as petur (n=petur@rockbox/developer/petur) 11.34.41 Join moos [0] (i=mustapha@rockbox/staff/moos) 11.45.34 Join kugel [0] (n=kugel@141.45.206.76) 11.49.02 Join midijunkie [0] (n=Miranda@eduroam-196-214.uni-paderborn.de) 11.50.39 Join KBH [0] (i=hbk@pool-71-96-74-73.dfw.dsl-w.verizon.net) 11.51.50 Quit midijunkie (Client Quit) 12.05.35 Join EternalRains [0] (n=Abztrkhi@c-24-127-231-171.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) 12.08.47 Quit HBK- (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 12.12.28 Join dfkt [0] (i=dfkt@unaffiliated/dfkt) 12.13.20 Join LinusN [0] (n=linus@rockbox/developer/LinusN) 12.23.36 Join hidefile [0] (n=54983032@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-fbaa3adc7d5db3bf) 12.25.18 # Hi, H140; I want to hide a directory on my player but make it accessable/viewable only when I want to on a PC, how would I do that please ? 12.26.08 # set it as hidden and turn on/off view hidden folders on your PC? 12.26.16 # you could mark the directory hidden, but, it will still be visible if you use "view all" 12.26.58 # aha, is there a file extension which will render it unviewable within rockbox ? 12.28.09 # I thought you said directory? 12.28.31 # yes it'll be a directory, not a file 12.28.43 # Then it can't have a file extension 12.29.01 # silly me :-) 12.29.56 # hmm, so giving the directory hidden attributes on a pc is the only way ?, thanks 12.30.08 Quit EternalRains (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 12.30.48 # And then setting the Rockbox show files setting to anything other than All 12.31.04 # understood, thanks 12.31.43 # or if you use windows, you could name the directory with a "." (full stop) at the front 12.32.02 # Then Rockbox will treat it as hidden but Windows won't (but linux/Mac will) 12.32.09 # yes I'm on XP 12.32.46 # XP won't let you create a directory with a . in front, but you can create it from the command prompt 12.32.56 # Then once you have it, you can use it as normal 12.33.34 # cmd prompt huh, isn't that something "scotty" ditched years ago in Star Trek 12.33.42 # XP lets you, just the explorer doesn't ;) 12.34.01 # thank you maam 12.35.01 # pixelma: OK :) Is there any built into XP thing that lets you do it though? Or for all intents and purposes do you still have to use command prompt? 12.35.30 # Or a third party tool 12.35.49 # I' 12.35.58 # * hidefile googles third party tool 12.36.17 # d use the command prompt, in my understanding that's built into XP too 12.36.38 # but if I use a third party tool I'll always need said toll to view or change the attributes right ? 12.36.38 # pixelma: yes, I meant anything other than the command prompt. 12.36.48 # hidefile: No, just to create it 12.37.02 # hidefile: I'd use the command prompt, it is a one line thing to type 12.38.03 # ok, I'll use this cmd thing you speak of with such fondness 12.38.16 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 12.39.34 # rockbox is a fine product, thanks 12.39.39 Quit hidefile ("CGI:IRC") 12.46.47 Quit tchan (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 12.53.55 Join domonoky [0] (n=Domonoky@rockbox/developer/domonoky) 12.57.26 Join tchan [0] (n=tchan@lunar-linux/developer/tchan) 13.08.00 Join tomers [0] (n=tomers@194.90.113.98) 13.09.11 Quit tomers (Client Quit) 13.25.49 Join robin0800 [0] (n=quassel@cpc3-brig8-0-0-cust436.brig.cable.ntl.com) 13.28.11 Quit kugel (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 13.35.13 Join emmanuel_ [0] (n=emmanuel@p5799858F.dip.t-dialin.net) 13.41.08 Quit Dreamglider ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") 13.52.03 Quit emmanuel (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 13.52.44 Part wincent ("Kopete 0.12.7 : http://kopete.kde.org") 13.55.09 Join kugel [0] (n=kugel@rockbox/developer/kugel) 14.10.21 Join midijunkie [0] (n=Miranda@p548B570A.dip.t-dialin.net) 14.17.09 Join funman [0] (i=56421242@rockbox/developer/funman) 14.20.52 Join kachna [0] (n=kachna@r3g248.net.upc.cz) 14.31.07 Join Horscht [0] (n=Horscht@xbmc/user/horscht) 14.32.26 # Bagder: any news from AMS ? it's been 2 weeks without an answer 14.33.00 # not a beep :-( 14.33.17 # well, one of them bounced a "vacation notice" but nothing apart from that 14.33.36 # i'll ping them 14.34.56 Join LambdaCalculus37 [0] (i=44a0430d@rockbox/staff/LambdaCalculus37) 14.35.26 Quit MT (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 14.35.56 Join MT [0] (n=MTee@41.233.144.18) 14.38.20 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 14.39.17 Join schrottplatz [0] (n=max@f053225167.adsl.alicedsl.de) 14.42.54 # FlynDice: i posted a patch on FS#10048 14.43.42 # funman:I'll go look now.. 14.44.26 # hit reload, i just edited the comment ;) 14.47.28 # funman: I've dropped the mapping aspect and have just been trying to get the mmu working with cacheing and no mapping 14.48.07 Join itcheg [0] (i=41d59de2@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-7ef90a64a0338f68) 14.48.19 # good idea, so you can focus on the essential 14.48.39 # i believe mapping doesn't interfere with caching though 14.49.25 Join barrywardell [0] (n=barry@193.1.133.92) 14.49.30 # get http://www.altera.com/literature/third-party/ddi0100e_arm_arm.pdf : the Part B gives some informations on caching & MMU in ARM cores 14.49.39 # Seems when I cache any DRAM it screws up the ascodec portion. I get an empty battery and a charging indication. 14.50.14 # when I do that on the Clip I can't even boot (screens shut down) 14.50.26 # same code with noDRAM cached works fine 14.50.32 # hum .. stupid me, perhaps we need to modify the delays used in the drivers 14.51.06 # we could just stub the codec communication to see if it's really the problem or just a symptom 14.51.09 # linuxstb: Ping, can you check out the logs from earlier? I tried modifying the Makefile for beastpatcher to match up a little better with the iPodpatcher Makefile, but I still get errors on building. 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I hate the of, even if there are bugs, as long as it plays music. 18.13.31 # Anyone in here using the e280 v2? 18.13.36 # I believe that it is, but you'd have to compile it yourself as it's not officially supported yet so is really for developers 18.13.49 # or anything with the same chipset, there is that other popular device with the same chipset..I forget what it's called 18.13.52 # cruze or something 18.13.58 # Fuze 18.14.01 # fuze, yea 18.14.12 # You have either of these devices evilnick_7? 18.14.25 Join faemir [0] (n=faemir@88-106-242-222.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) 18.14.29 # No, I've got a Sansa E280 but that's V1 18.14.53 # yea, I bought mine on ebay. and the guy advertised it as v1, and even mentioned rockbox on the advertisement, but when I got it, it was v2. hah 18.14.58 Quit petur ("work->home") 18.15.19 # and did you contact this person about it? 18.16.02 # no 18.16.06 # JohnTeddy: and did you check via the firmware version?...the backplate is wrong if you happen to be judging by that 18.16.15 # errr...can be wrong 18.16.23 # yea, I checked the version info via of 18.16.48 # v03.01.11A 18.16.52 # Is what it says. 18.17.14 # Yep, that's an AMS then 18.20.58 # So it works, but it's buggy? 18.21.06 # scorche|sh: You use either of these devices? 18.21.22 # no 18.24.35 Join Frrr [0] (n=Frrr@cpc3-linc2-0-0-cust422.nott.cable.ntl.com) 18.25.41 Quit _lifeless (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 18.26.08 Join _lifeless [0] (n=lifeless@188.16.67.121) 18.26.11 # hi, i think rockbox bricked my nano. screen is blank, hold is off. doesn't respond to anything and isn't recognized by the computer 18.26.33 # this happened after i connected it to my monster wireless plus car adapter -- before that rockbox worked fine 18.26.45 # reset doesn't work either. Is this a known issue? Anything i can do? 18.27.02 # Was (is) it charged? 18.27.09 # yes, almost fully 18.27.58 # How long are you holding menu+select for? It can sometimes take up to 30 seconds. 18.28.13 # and try turning hold on then off before doing it 18.28.32 # it can be quite tricky to get the timing right, but don't worry, it isn't bricked 18.30.21 # reset has only taken 6 seconds for me before, but i just tried it for a minute and nothing 18.30.26 # did hold on/off too 18.31.06 # Frrr: You could try charging it for an extended period 18.32.33 # well, i'll try. it was fully charged though 18.32.46 # Yeah I know - worth a go though 18.33.01 # It is always possible it just died 18.33.11 # or got a jolt from the adaptor 18.33.50 Quit __lifeless (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 18.34.04 # yeah, i was thinking that. everyone seems to insist rockbox doesn't brick ipods but it could still be some unfortunate combination of rockbox + adapter 18.34.17 # Or simply that ipods die anyway... 18.34.24 # (with or without Rockbox) 18.34.39 # well it's a pretty old 1st gen 18.34.43 # shame though 18.34.54 # But try charging it, and keep trying the reset combo. 18.35.15 # (preferably with a wall charger if you have one). 18.35.36 # i just have the car charger and the usb cable i'm afraid 18.35.38 # Frrr: Whilst it is possible, there hasn't been a confirmed report of Rockbox killing an ipod 18.36.15 # maybe just nobody's tested it with that particular adapter 18.36.35 # it would be good if one of the developers could get hold of one 18.37.44 # There are far too many adapters to test them all 18.38.24 # oh, i'm sure you're right. But if there's a 'watch list' anywhere for problematic adapters... 18.38.25 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 18.38.39 # It is of course possible but ipods do just die, and just because Rockbox was on there doesn't mean that it was the cause. 18.39.04 # anyway, as we don't know either way, this is by the by :) 18.40.00 # yeah, i know it could be a coincidence. But since it happened within a couple of hours of installing rockbox after a few years of working fine, it was my first thought to come here 18.42.31 Join xy124 [0] (n=chatzill@p54B974F7.dip.t-dialin.net) 18.44.42 # ok, i'm going to add to the ipod accessories table on the wiki, maybe then someone will see it and confirm/deny. thanks aynway guys 18.45.04 # What are you going to add? 18.46.02 # okay, scratch that, wiki seems to be invite only 18.46.26 # i was just going to add an entry for my adapter in the table, and say my ipod died when i plugged it in. 18.46.28 Quit Zambezi (SendQ exceeded) 18.48.33 # Hi, I've a question: How long does it take making the rockbox run with a new mp3-player? 18.49.00 # z 18.49.10 Nick xy124 is now known as lokus (n=chatzill@p54B974F7.dip.t-dialin.net) 18.49.18 # xy124: It can be quick or extremely long 18.49.24 # Depends how similar that mp3 player is to existing ones that Rockbox works on. The fastest port has been just a few hours, but completely new devices can take a year (or more) 18.49.24 # It depends on many factors 18.49.47 # but at all i need skills in assembler? 18.50.10 # See http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/NewPort 18.50.36 # Frrr: it's not invite-only. It just requires registration and convincing someone that you're real 18.51.49 # I've a Philips SA3285 and if rockbox would work with it, it would be very crazy... ok then i'll read this text 18.53.06 Quit lokus ("ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 3.0.8/2009032609]") 18.53.51 Join obo [0] (n=obo@77-99-230-49.cable.ubr04.trow.blueyonder.co.uk) 18.54.10 # obo: How's the view? 18.54.58 # gevaerts: ok, well my wiki name is RobinAllen so if you or someone could accept my realness that'd be great 18.56.27 # linuxstb: sadly as-was. There don't seem to be enough hours in the day at the moment to get everything else done before the end of term. Plus I'm still waiting on my Uni to approve the work (visa issues) 18.56.39 # Frrr: done :) 18.56.52 # thanks! 18.56.55 # Frrr: I think it'd be good to have a note with your entry to say that it may well be/probably is coincidence 18.57.15 # And if anyone wants to confirm/disprove that'd be good 18.57.33 # obo: When is your end of term? 18.57.41 # yeah, that's pretty much what i'm going to write 18.57.53 Join Zambezi [0] (i=Zulu@bnc.dotbnc.se) 18.59.33 # linuxstb: 16th (then I disappear for 10 days holiday). 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His reply was : "There are only mallocs during init and all those can be replaced by fixed arrays." 23.18.07 # awesome :) 23.19.10 # So I think the fixed-point replacement/memory optimization phase is almost complete .. next would be porting to rockbox, but I still want to go through the source to see how rockbox handles container formats. i.e, how I'm going to implement the parser and make send the packets to the decoder 23.20.26 # you wanted to have a seperate .rock for each decoder? 23.20.30 # MT: I think removing the mallocs shouldn't be too difficult 23.21.00 # * BigBambi wonders if finishing before GSOC starts is a record :) 23.21.13 Quit {phoenix} (Remote closed the connection) 23.21.51 # BigBambi : I was worried someone might consider it a bad idea 23.22.01 # is it normal for the games to be accelerated while plugged into a charger/usb port? 23.22.15 # but if it would count as a record. then screw the finals, I'm on it ! 23.22.17 # a lot of them will be for the huffman and imdct 23.22.24 # and we've already delt with that for wma 23.22.29 # froggyman: That might indicate the CPU is always boosted when plugged in (it probably shouldn't be) 23.22.35 # MT: I don't see why particularly - especiallly as there are always more codecs :) 23.22.46 # though a neat solution might be to merge the wma and cook huffman code, since it is the same, and then maybe see if it can be optimized 23.22.59 # Llorean: USB doesn't work on PP when not boosted 23.23.25 # gevaerts: You can't play games while USB is working, either. 23.23.30 # So I assume it's just charging. :-P 23.23.50 # Llorean: yes you can. You can't while MSC is working though ;) 23.23.51 # MT: merbanan said a few weeks ago that the MDCT needed converting to fixed-point. Has that been done? 23.23.52 # saratoga : I think it shouldn't be a problem to remove those mallocs, I just didn't have the time today to look at them and I wanted to check with merbanan as well. 23.23.54 # yeah it is just charging throught a usb port (held menu when plugged in 23.24.00 # gevaerts: Ah, well, *normal* users can't then. 23.24.17 # linuxstb : the patch already uses a fixed point mdct 23.24.38 # Llorean: while charging we have to maintain a USB connection, and the host may ask for data (descriptors). Not boosting can break that 23.24.49 # linuxstb : even if it doesn't, I could borrow the one saratoga wrote for wma 23.24.58 # gevaerts: So that's why charging has gotten worse since we activated USB! 23.25.20 # Ever since USB went in, there's been a rise in reporting charging not happening / being much slower when they hold menu and insert the cable. 23.25.37 # It shouldn't. This part of USB has been enabled for ages as far as I can see 23.25.38 # I thought it was more people using it, so more people noticing it could be slow, but if we're constantly boosted that'd be an increase in load right there. 23.25.46 # linuxstb: it came with the tremor imdct (same as we use) 23.26.00 # gevaerts: But when the USB stack was disabled, did we still boost when someone held menu and inserted to charge? 23.26.10 Join confused [0] (n=8e44e1a3@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-c6949bb4c335c042) 23.26.47 # yes 23.26.51 # saratoga: Ah, OK. 23.27.07 # gevaerts: Ah well then. 23.27.51 # it doesnt seem to boost the clock if you plug the USB in while you are under the debug menu 23.28.25 Join webguest60 [0] (n=8e44e1a3@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-e11d2209b1cf5ecc) 23.28.31 # Hello 23.28.31 # I'm not sure if the debug menu handles USB events properly 23.28.50 # gevaerts: Would it more or less be impossible to work around this and boost normally if we're in charging-only mode? 23.28.55 # iirc there's an asf parser that calls the wma decoder, right ? 23.29.37 # I can't get any videos to work on my Sansa E250, i have tryed a few different formats and none of them work, the media coder thing was supposed to change the videos to MPEG-1 but they seem to be audio files.... 23.29.37 # Llorean: we could unboost after enumeration and hope that the host leaves us alone or that we get lucky... 23.29.49 # gevaerts: Worst case if the host doesn't leave us alone? 23.30.08 # disconnect and get thrown off the bus 23.30.30 # or we could connect in full speed, that seems to work better without boosting 23.30.38 Quit CaptainKwel ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") 23.30.44 # If we're charging, we don't need high speed anyway, right? 23.31.10 Quit confused ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)") 23.31.14 # only one way to find out 23.31.15 # Is there a likely reason why the host would want to communicate with us? Or is there any sort of "I'm busy" message we can send the host saying 'leave us alone until we tell you otherwise'? 23.31.17 Join Ubuntuxer [0] (n=johannes@dslb-094-220-239-047.pools.arcor-ip.net) 23.31.18 # can anyone help me with that problem? 23.31.19 # MT: wma.c calls asf_read_packet, then passes the result of that to wma_decode_superframe_frame 23.31.36 # exactly. I'm not sure if it always works in full speed though. That needs more testing... 23.32.00 # neither really calls the other, though the asf parser is essentially just a "get packet" function and a metadata parser which is only called by the buffering thread 23.32.02 # webguest60: We don't provide support for mediacoder here. The internet is full of various ways to convert videos. If you have them in the right format, and it's still not working on Rockbox's side, we can probably help you more. 23.32.43 # Rockbox supports MPEG-1 and 2 right? 23.32.52 # Llorean: the problem is that when the clock is too low packets just don't get on the bus properly, so we can't say anything reliably. The host will probably not say anything, but it can 23.32.58 # webguest60: Yes, with MP3 audio. 23.33.22 # well what about video then, what formats are supported? 23.33.46 # decodeing then loops by calling wma_decode_superframe_frame until the packet is consumed (i think each packet contains just one superframe) 23.33.55 # webguest60: MPEG-1 and MPEG-2 video, as you said 23.34.00 # saratoga : the parameter that I should initialize COOKContext with, come from the parser currently, I have to initialize RMContext first .. would this also be done by the buffering thread ? 23.34.48 # s/parameter/parameters 23.34.49 # webguest60: If you want audio along with that video, it needs to be MP3 23.35.02 # MT: finishing before the coding period isnt a bad idea at all...in fact, it is pretty damn awesome, but dont let it interfere with your schoolwork/finals =P 23.35.02 # MT: yeah 23.35.51 # MP# is audio is it not? or do they both somehow play at the same time? 23.35.56 # MP3* 23.36.02 # MPEG1/2 is video 23.36.12 # ... the buffering/playback thread can pass stuff to the codecs? 23.36.13 # In a film, you normally have both pictures and sounds 23.36.29 # webguest60: In the video file, it still has audio data (otherwise you can't hear the sound that goes with the video). This audio data needs to be MP3 in an MPEG-1 or MPEG-2 video 23.36.31 # I was able to get the audio on but not the video.... 23.36.33 # scorche : Sure I can't let that interfere with the finals .. although it always feel pretty nice to say ''screw the finals'' ! 23.36.35 # the "pictures" must be MPEG1/2, the "sounds" must be MP3 23.36.42 # webguest60: If you got audio only, you converted wrong. 23.36.44 # in wma.c we copy the contents of the wma struct out of the codec's struct and into a seperate struct that ffmpeg expects 23.37.32 # JdGordon|: it stores metadata, which often encodes the codec's main datastructure in the the id3 field 23.37.35 # webguest60: www.rockbox.org/wiki/PluginMpegplayer 23.37.45 Join itcheg [0] (i=62cb39dd@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-65b456e0a9f863df) 23.38.04 # saratoga: ah ok 23.38.13 # I have read through that already... 23.38.47 # so whats the problem? 23.38.48 # I am not very tech literate. 23.39.03 # I cant get videos on my Sansa E250 23.39.13 # how did you convert them? 23.40.34 # Media Coder but it just made them audio files and i find them on my device but they are audio files also... 23.40.59 # Why not try using winff as recomended on that page? 23.41.17 # Winff? 23.41.26 # the thing on that page you read 23.41.44 # et me re-read. 23.41.49 # let* 23.41.55 Quit Ubuntuxer ("Leaving.") 23.43.43 Quit petur (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 23.44.41 # found it.... 23.46.18 # downloading now, but will it work, i have MPEG-4 VIDEO Movie/Video clips to convert to MPEG-1/2 23.46.25 # yes 23.46.38 # does it matter wich one to convert to? 23.46.46 # no 23.46.49 # like is MPED-2 better then MPEG 1? 23.46.51 # oh 23.46.52 # ok 23.46.58 # And winff has presets for the e200 I think 23.47.12 # I will instal and stuff and tell you how it goes.... 23.47.16 # (go for MPEG2), but just use the preset 23.48.57 # BigBambi : there's this tool called GUIEncode , on a blog called 'true journals' .. have you seen it before ? 23.49.13 # for videos etc? 23.49.44 # yes 23.49.55 # not seen it, no 23.49.57 # * MT is looking for the link 23.50.36 # there is not preset for my Device 23.50.42 # e200? 23.50.49 # wait.... 23.51.01 Join EternalRains1 [0] (n=Abztrkhi@c-76-106-220-241.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) 23.52.26 # my Sansa looks like this:http://www.woot.com/Images/Sale/SanDisk_Sansa_e250_2GB_Media_PlayercgtDetail.jpg is it widescreen or full screen? 23.52.30 # MT: WinFF works rather well for our users. It uses ffmpeg in the backend, has GUIs for Windows and Linux at least, and has a preset file for most of our players. 23.52.39 # webguest60: It's whether the video is widescreen or fullscreen, not your player 23.52.46 # may have been a stupid question 23.52.48 # webguest60: You want to chose that depending on your input video 23.53.07 # hmmmmm 23.53.18 # wll i have to turn it sideways to watch videos 23.53.24 # so widescreen? 23.53.28 # what? 23.53.40 # Is the video you want to convert widescreen or not? 23.53.51 # Llorean : I've never tried it, I rarely watch videos on my sansa, but my only try back then was with guiencode and it was really straightforward and simple. 23.54.20 # MT: WinFF basically boils down to "add a list of files, choose your player from the dropdown list, click encode" 23.54.42 # I'm trying to put red vs blue videos on it and it changes the size depending on the video player (quicktime whatever) 23.55.15 # webguest60: I can't see your videos - you will have to decide if they are widescrren or not and then convert appropriately 23.55.27 # sorry 23.55.32 # webguest60: If you really can't decide, just do it as both then test 23.55.54 # Llorean : Ah, then no need for the other one. For the record, it was just as simple .. 23.56.05 Join vedlith [0] (n=ved2@137-mi2-1.acn.waw.pl) 23.56.09 # MT: Did it have presets for all the Rockbox players builtin? ;) 23.56.11 # ok 23.56.35 # Llorean : It was designed as a rockbox MPEG encoder :) 23.56.35 # * Llorean thinks the presets probably _really_ need updated by now 23.56.46 # and new ones added 23.56.57 # I think the only player it's missing is c200. 23.57.01 # well that is a few hours worth of videos, wonder how long it will take to convert.... 23.57.05 # And a little duplication for things like the Gigabeast 23.57.12 # webguest60: Why not just do one and then test it? 23.57.26 # ... 23.58.13 # therei stoped it and picked a few minute video 23.58.31 # webguest60: Good, but we don't need a running commentary :) 23.58.38 # sorry 23.58.55 Join _fml [0] (n=4fd3ca2e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-5fc61448b0532aeb)