--- Log for 27.06.109 Server: simmons.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: @logbot Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 24 days and 7 hours ago 00.03.00 Quit robin0800 ("Leaving") 00.03.16 Join robin0800 [0] (n=robin080@cpc3-brig8-0-0-cust436.brig.cable.ntl.com) 00.04.36 Join perrikwp1 [0] (n=Keith@74.167.148.160) 00.06.34 Join gentoo_user [0] (n=d8e68a69@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-136e47a3a8325515) 00.07.54 Join gentoo_user2 [0] (n=d8e68a69@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-45dc49807313bb79) 00.07.55 Quit gentoo_user (Client Quit) 00.10.25 Join Zarggg_ [0] (n=zarggg@65-78-69-194.c3-0.eas-ubr6.atw-eas.pa.cable.rcn.com) 00.15.06 Quit Rondom ("Ex-Chat") 00.16.30 Join timc [0] (n=aoeu@116.3.3.188) 00.21.17 Quit Zarggg (Connection timed out) 00.23.06 Quit robin0800 ("Leaving") 00.24.05 Join robin0800 [0] (n=root@cpc3-brig8-0-0-cust436.brig.cable.ntl.com) 00.24.58 Quit perrikwp (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00.27.36 # I think I found out which RTC the mr100 uses :) 00.28.04 # It seems to be the same as in the meizu M3, which is the Seiko S35390 00.30.31 # the OlympusMR100HardwareComponents wiki shows a chip with markings S35380A 00.35.31 Quit gentoo_user2 ("CGI:IRC (Error)") 00.36.03 Join gentoo_user2 [0] (n=d8e68a69@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-5e2b24cb5d04e2a7) 00.38.14 # Hi, I have a trouble. I tried to emerge rbutil from this ebuild http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/viewfile/Main/RockboxUtility?rev=3;filename=rbutil-9999.ebuild I configured my proxy settings in /root/.subversion/servers but it didn't connect. How I can connect with your ebuild?? 00.38.35 # I was unaware that we offered an ebuild 00.38.44 # Can't you use the prebuilt static binary? 00.39.10 # This is not really "our ebuild", but some guy's ebuild. 00.39.11 # Not yet 00.39.15 # It looks like that ebuild is on the wiki and not official 00.39.37 # OK 00.39.49 # Then I will compile from sources. 00.40.02 # gentoo_user2: Or use the binary we provide 00.40.29 # AlexP: didn't you see his nick? 00.40.37 # Well, I will try the binary 00.40.59 # gevaerts: I know, I know :) 00.41.05 # gentoo users don't like binaries :p 00.41.09 Join goffa [0] (n=goffa@216.220.23.105) 00.41.12 # gevaerts: I just live in hope that they aren't all mad :) 00.41.14 # Ja ja ja ja ja 00.41.15 # it would be nice if we could re-use the mr100 rtc driver for the meizus 00.41.29 # Yeah, they save 0.2 ms after wasting 3 days compiling :) 00.41.33 # but that's probably more work than writing a new one for the meizus ... 00.42.11 # I suppose that this http://download.rockbox.org/rbutil/linux/rbutilqt-v1.2.tar.bz2 is the "Binary" 00.43.13 # I'm not sure why binary is in quotation marks, it isn't a pretend binary 00.43.46 # gentoo_user2: So you can be sure: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/RockboxUtility#Download 00.44.21 # Thank you 00.45.05 # Why is that ebuld listed in the download table? 00.45.15 # If it isn't official it shouldn't be presented as such 00.45.51 # Should probably be shoved somewhere else 00.45.57 # yeah 00.46.24 # meh, we have too many i2c prototypes 00.48.05 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 00.48.33 Quit killan_ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 00.49.08 # Thanks a lot, binary works perfect!!!!! 00.50.02 # I moved the e-build out of the table a put a note that it is user contributed and may or may not be up-to-date 00.52.49 Quit goffa___ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 01.01.48 Join notlistening [0] (n=tom@94-195-105-95.zone9.bethere.co.uk) 01.03.22 # domonoky, really great work on the rbutil tonight, just a quick idea that might be a sticking point in windows is the firewall can be an issue 01.05.48 Join AndyIL [0] (i=AndyI@212.14.205.32) 01.06.44 Join archivator [0] (n=archivat@77.70.28.57) 01.07.01 Nick archivator is now known as Guest20308 (n=archivat@77.70.28.57) 01.07.37 Nick Guest20308 is now known as archivator (n=archivat@77.70.28.57) 01.07.56 Join killan [0] (n=nnscript@c-0efa70d5.06-397-67626721.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) 01.11.43 Join archivator_ [0] (n=archivat@77.70.28.57) 01.12.55 Quit robin0800 (Remote closed the connection) 01.14.33 # domonoky: any hints on how to build a proper static rbutilqt? You seem to be missing a 2.2 64-bit build and I happen to have a compiler stack installed. I tried qmake CONFIG+=static but it still compiles with -DQT_SHARED 01.14.43 Join MU{lappy} [0] (n=unhelpfu@rockbox/developer/Unhelpful) 01.15.06 # that'd be 1.2.2 of course* 01.15.39 # archivator_: do you have a static qt installed? 01.16.44 Join archivator__ [0] (n=archivat@77.70.28.57) 01.16.55 Join kugel_ [0] (i=kugel@e178064069.adsl.alicedsl.de) 01.17.03 Quit archivator (Nick collision from services.) 01.17.20 Nick archivator__ is now known as archivator (n=archivat@77.70.28.57) 01.17.43 # gevaerts, I *should* have, I just compiled it. It's probably finding the shared one though. Hm, let's see if I can get it right this time 01.18.00 Quit archivator_ (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 01.19.08 Quit jgarvey ("Leaving") 01.19.10 # Nah, I compiled it with the wrong flags. It's gonna take forever to compile it again (virtual machine on top of windows). I'll se what I can do tomorrow. 01.19.29 # Where should I post the binary once I'm done compiling? 01.19.29 Quit AndyI (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 01.19.50 Quit JdGordon| ("Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org") 01.21.20 # archivator: Somewhere, then let Bagder know where it is so he can put it on the download server 01.22.00 # Right, will be done. 01.24.39 # archivator: help with building the different rbutil binarys is always welcome :-) 01.24.44 Join archivator_ [0] (n=archivat@77.70.28.57) 01.26.08 Join archivator__ [0] (n=archivat@77.70.28.57) 01.26.22 # domonoky, did you see my message about the firewall? 01.27.11 Quit archivator_ (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 01.27.16 Quit archivator__ (Client Quit) 01.27.33 # notlistening: yes, but we cant anything about the firewall, rbutil needs to download stuff, or do you mean something else ? 01.28.00 # * domonoky rereads the message and slaps head. 01.28.21 # no i dont have a firewall running. 01.29.05 # what windows are you running? 01.29.29 # windows XP 01.29.39 # wish the tcl interpreter usually requests access to the web or seems to when starting sockets 01.30.05 # if your filewall if off then that is not the issue 01.31.46 Quit bertrik (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 01.33.06 # I will steal my gf laptop and give windows a whirl when i get the chance over the weekend, do you changes work in linux and windows for the client? 01.34.14 # the newest patch doesnt work on linux/windows anymore. :-) i need to debug it a little.. 01.34.47 Quit kugel (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 01.35.48 # okay, I will go ahead and make the changes needed, great idea for the filenames and as for the efficiency issue that's on the wish list 01.37.29 # rbutil doesnt give dublicate wavfiles to tts engines anymore. i changed that too :-) 01.38.25 # now i can connect on windows... :-) now lets find out why the server doesnt like the speakMe message anymore.. 01.39.46 Join JdGordon| [0] (i=ad814b2c@gateway/web/freenode/x-d51d9b2fb2705f5f) 01.39.51 # It will fail every time due to the way i have hardcoded the server to generate files 01.40.26 # wine uses the Z: driver for access to the root filesystem ;) 01.40.41 # *drive 01.41.10 # hehe i have been lazy and not added the changes in yet 01.41.35 Quit archivator (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 01.47.15 Quit ender` (" When I was a kid I used to pray every night for a new bicycle. Then I realised that the Lord doesn't work that way so I sto") 01.50.43 Nick fxb is now known as fxb__ (n=felixbru@h1252615.stratoserver.net) 01.53.41 # notlistening: why are you runing the server in wine? 01.54.59 Join cmwslw [0] (n=cmwslw@c-98-249-113-152.hsd1.tn.comcast.net) 01.55.21 Part cmwslw ("Ex-Chat") 01.55.28 Quit aaron424 ("ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.0.11/2009060308]") 01.58.45 Part toffe82 02.08.08 Quit tessarakt ("Client exiting") 02.12.09 Quit JdGordon| (Ping timeout: 180 seconds) 02.13.29 Join kugel [0] (i=kugel@rockbox/developer/kugel) 02.15.12 # lilltiger, cause it is an interface into the SAPI TTS speech engine and it is running in linux 02.16.15 # ahh so there is no port of SAPI TTS? 02.16.48 # SAPI is the windows Speech API, not a TTS :-) 02.17.30 # but you have access to it via Wine on Linux. And as there are many good Sapi TTS engines its worth it :-) 02.17.52 # Sorry for the bad terminology there 02.18.34 # there are speech engines under linux but not as many and a varied and high quality 02.20.39 # some languages only exist in SAPI 4 format but that's a rainy day project :D 02.24.43 Quit notlistening ("Leaving") 02.26.05 Quit domonoky (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 02.31.42 Quit kugel_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 02.42.38 Join moxfyre [0] (n=moxfyre@c-69-255-193-94.hsd1.md.comcast.net) 02.44.35 Quit moxfyre (Client Quit) 02.44.46 Join dlenski [0] (n=dlenski@c-69-255-193-94.hsd1.md.comcast.net) 02.48.08 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 02.49.30 Join _lifeless [0] (n=lifeless@188.16.124.245) 02.51.37 Quit faemir (Remote closed the connection) 02.58.04 Quit gentoo_user2 ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 03.04.07 Quit __lifeless (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 03.07.26 # oki :) 03.25.58 Join Cheese_Ninja [0] (n=charles@MW-ESR1-74-215-15-133.fuse.net) 03.32.10 # I got a refurbished sansa e260 today, and tried installing rockbox on it for the first time. First I tried a manual install, but when problems occurred (of which I'll go into greater detail), I used the Rockbox Utility. It's not a v2 or a rhapsody model. The probelm is this, whenever I turn it on and allow it to load as rockbox, it immediately shuts down, and appears to freeze for a few minutes on the "Shutting down.." screen. 03.32.26 # So, is this my fault or the refurbished sansa's? 03.32.35 # Thanks for any and all assistance. 03.32.55 # v1? 03.33.05 # what is the firmware version? 03.34.25 # 01.02.18A 03.34.55 # okay, should be v1 then 03.35.10 # I can get it to do the sansa bootloader just fine with the left button + power 03.35.40 # what build are you using? 03.35.48 # 3.3 03.36.30 Quit bubsy ("Yes) (Reason: NO!) (Amiga: YES!)") 03.36.53 # I'm not the best with computers, so I thought anything else might be a bad idea. 03.37.26 # I'm pretty sure it's not a rhapsody version because the two options it gives me for USB are MSC and MTP. 03.38.56 # I'm a bit bothered by the shiny R on the back though... 03.38.58 # If you press play while booting, does any text appear? 03.39.22 Join topbloke [0] (n=x@99.60.252.231) 03.39.36 # If it was a rhapsody version, you wouldn't have been able to install the regular bootloader 03.39.57 # the R might be refurbished, I have a c200 like that 03.40.01 # how long should I have to hold the power button for it shut down? 03.40.37 # if it's running normally, about 3 seconds. If it's stuck somewhere, up to 30 seconds or so 03.41.38 Join goffa___ [0] (n=goffa@216.220.23.105) 03.42.19 # the scroll wheel works, but it doesn't seem to be shutting down even after 30 seconds 03.42.38 # could it just be a hardware problem because of a bad refurb? 03.43.39 # it takes quite a bit more than 3s to hard-shutdown my e200... 03.43.56 # could be, of course. Holding power for a while to shut down should really always work, it's done by the hardware 03.44.20 Nick topbloke is now known as top_bloke[away] (n=x@99.60.252.231) 03.45.54 # Cheese_Ninja: my refurb'd e280 had a shiny "REFURB" on the back, that came off quite easily... perhaps the "R" is all that stuck? 03.46.32 # I think they must have just felt cheap with the shiny lettering after a while. 03.47.32 # well, it did reboot after a few minutes, but it starting loading rockbox, and since I wasn't holding the left button, it's stuck at the "Shutting down..." screen again. 03.49.19 # did it again 03.49.32 Quit pixelma (Nick collision from services.) 03.49.34 Join pixelma_ [50] (n=pixelma@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 03.49.37 Quit amiconn (Nick collision from services.) 03.49.42 Join amiconn_ [50] (n=jens@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 03.49.50 Nick amiconn_ is now known as amiconn (n=jens@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 03.49.53 Join Thundercloud [0] (n=thunderc@84-51-130-71.judith186.adsl.metronet.co.uk) 03.49.54 Nick pixelma_ is now known as pixelma (n=pixelma@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 03.51.36 Join FlynDice [0] (n=FlynDice@c-24-19-225-90.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) 03.51.49 # and again, and now it's finally back on sansa software 03.52.02 # so, is it my screwup or this thing itself? 03.52.20 Join bubsy [0] (i=Bubsy@94.139.72.137) 03.53.01 Quit goffa (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 03.53.03 # actually, it seems like the left button my work better as a power button than the actual power button? that just doesn't seem right. 03.53.10 # may* 03.55.57 Join kamlurker [0] (n=chatzill@user-142gr2b.cable.mindspring.com) 03.57.31 # I'm not sure what's turning this off and what's turning it off, is my best bet just to send it back to newegg? 03.57.42 # one of those really should be "on" 04.00.30 # there's no dedicated "on"... just on/off. 04.03.43 # i didn't think there was, but it seems to require some odd combination of the left button and the power to turn on and off, and functions erradically. 04.04.18 # should I try the unbricking method? 04.04.28 # erratically* 04.06.22 Quit top_bloke[away] ("bye") 04.06.57 # it really doesn't sound like it's bricked. can you navigate in the sansa FW? does it seem to respond to all of the controls reasonably? 04.08.30 # a "bricked" device shouldn't even be getting as far as the bootloader. 04.10.06 # it doesn't respond to the power button well 04.10.30 # i guess I should try it without the rockbox for a bit, see if there's still any problems 04.12.46 # if the power button regularly fails to do anything, my guess would be that the button is bad 04.14.45 Quit Sajber^ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 04.20.24 Quit Thundercloud (Remote closed the connection) 04.36.24 Quit timc (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 04.40.50 Quit Riku (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 04.41.03 Quit kugel (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 04.42.19 Quit advcomp2019_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 04.48.12 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 04.53.50 Join timc [0] (n=aoeu@116.3.1.110) 04.55.40 Join Llorean [0] (n=DarkkOne@adsl-99-182-52-92.dsl.hstntx.sbcglobal.net) 05.21.44 Quit timc (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 05.30.53 Join Strath [0] (n=Strath__@173-23-45-236.client.mchsi.com) 05.33.52 Join cmwslw [0] (n=cmwslw@c-98-249-113-152.hsd1.tn.comcast.net) 05.33.59 Part cmwslw ("Ex-Chat") 05.35.34 Quit kamlurker (Remote closed the connection) 05.35.56 Join cmwslw_ [0] (n=cmwslw@c-98-249-113-152.hsd1.tn.comcast.net) 05.36.12 Part cmwslw_ ("Ex-Chat") 05.36.36 Join cmwslw [0] (n=cmwslw@c-98-249-113-152.hsd1.tn.comcast.net) 05.36.49 Part cmwslw ("Ex-Chat") 05.38.22 Join timc [0] (n=aoeu@221.201.161.33) 05.48.37 Join Faethin [0] (n=faethin@190.148.247.246) 05.51.11 Quit Faethin ("Ma respira mia alma alla Rosa Etterna...") 06.22.47 Join advcomp2019 [0] (n=advcomp2@unaffiliated/advcomp2019) 06.48.15 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 06.50.44 Join perrikwp [0] (n=Keith@74.167.148.160) 06.51.58 Join Llorean1 [0] (n=DarkkOne@adsl-99-182-52-92.dsl.hstntx.sbcglobal.net) 06.52.18 Quit Llorean (Nick collision from services.) 06.52.20 Nick Llorean1 is now known as Llorean (n=DarkkOne@adsl-99-182-52-92.dsl.hstntx.sbcglobal.net) 07.11.47 Quit perrikwp1 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 07.31.14 Join Horschti [0] (n=Horscht2@xbmc/user/horscht) 07.45.05 Quit BHSPitLappy (Remote closed the connection) 07.48.46 Quit Horscht (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 08.17.41 Join bertrik [0] (n=bertrik@ip117-49-211-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl) 08.40.26 Join Rob2222 [0] (n=Miranda@p4FDCED37.dip.t-dialin.net) 08.48.17 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 08.58.19 Quit Rob2223 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 09.02.12 Quit bertrik (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 09.10.20 Quit Cory` () 09.14.05 Join stoffel [0] (n=quassel@p57B4C952.dip.t-dialin.net) 09.35.21 Join mt [0] (n=MTee@rockbox/developer/mt) 09.51.12 Join robin0800 [0] (n=root@general-ld-216.t-mobile.co.uk) 10.02.15 Quit mt (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 10.10.34 Join mt [0] (n=MTee@rockbox/developer/mt) 10.17.42 Join DarkDefender [0] (n=rob@78-69-30-229-no36.tbcn.telia.com) 10.37.16 Quit _Auron_ ("Infinity repeatedly denies rumours of plotting with zero to bring down the Universe.") 10.37.24 Join Sajber^ [0] (n=Sajber@h-143-12.A213.priv.bahnhof.se) 10.48.22 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 11.00.48 Join bmbl [0] (n=Miranda@unaffiliated/bmbl) 11.01.28 Join LightHammer [0] (n=Doc_Zoid@p5B3B3341.dip.t-dialin.net) 11.01.43 # whats about a shell? i mean rockbox is linux^^ 11.15.19 # it's not 11.16.19 # rockbox doesn't operate on a linux kernel? thats new for me 11.16.54 # I also don't understand the actual question, could you phrase it differently? 11.17.24 # i believe he wants to know why there's no shell / terminal emulator. 11.17.36 # thats it xD 11.17.49 # Rockbox is written from scratch and is not Linux 11.18.08 # LightHammer: rockbox is not linux, and does not support executables in the usual sense, either. it supports exactly one plugin executable at a time, loaded at a fixed address. a shell would not be of much use, as you could only use builtins. 11.18.49 # okay 11.21.26 # New commit by 03unhelpful (r21526): ARM assembly 8-point IDCT, both passes. No ARMv5/6 optimizations yet, aside from usat for final output. 11.26.33 Join matsl [0] (n=matsl@1-1-4-2a.mal.sth.bostream.se) 11.31.18 Join __lifeless [0] (n=lifeless@188.16.74.215) 11.32.12 Quit LightHammer ("Verlassend") 11.35.41 # New commit by 03bluebrother (r21527): Make sure the build folder is created before trying to generate the dependencies file. Fixes issues building Rockbox Utility and voice file creation. 11.39.03 # I need some help getting usbserial to work. 11.39.56 # Whenever I plugin my dap I never get a /dev/ttyUSB# device 11.45.48 Join matsl_ [0] (n=matsl@1-1-4-2a.mal.sth.bostream.se) 11.47.48 Quit _lifeless (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 11.47.56 Quit matsl (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 11.52.00 # mt: version of rockbox and version of linux required please 11.54.27 # robin0800 : rockbox r21477 - Ubuntu 8.04 11.54.34 Quit robin0800 (Remote closed the connection) 11.55.45 Join TheSphinX^ [0] (n=cold@p54A5E406.dip.t-dialin.net) 12.00.07 Join ender` [0] (i=krneki@foo.eternallybored.org) 12.00.39 Quit antil33t () 12.01.26 # New commit by 03unhelpful (r21528): Use single-instruction shift-and-saturate in place of range_limit for JPEG on ARMv6. Only affects the 16-point horizontal-pass IDCT. 12.05.41 Join antil33t [0] (n=Mudkips@119.224.12.185) 12.07.54 Part Cheese_Ninja 12.08.08 # MU{lappy}: Quite a bit of binsize savings in r21526... :) 12.11.45 Quit lilltiger (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 12.12.02 Join lilltiger [0] (n=lilltige@82.145.152.217) 12.17.26 Join hd [0] (i=jd@modemcable178.248-201-24.mc.videotron.ca) 12.18.25 Quit HellDragon (Nick collision from services.) 12.19.06 # amiconn: proper ARMv6 support will do even better - sign extension is one instruction, anything that needs to be multiplied can skip sign extension, many of the adds can be parallelized 12.20.16 Join robin0800 [0] (n=root@general-ld-216.t-mobile.co.uk) 12.20.55 # * amiconn wonders whether asm idct would pay off for sh1 12.21.40 # Even though the huffman decoding step is probably more demanding than idct on sh1, it would probably help saving binsize, and the jpeg plugin is a tight fit... 12.22.56 # for example, we calculate d0+d4 (even-part tmp0), and d1+d5 (odd-part z4) - both can be done at once, although the former will need unpacking and shifting since the values are later added but never need to be multiplied. 12.24.27 # it surely wouldn't hurt for binsize, but i don't know how well gcc does in that regard on sh... its output on ARM is fairly miserable, it does things like immediately copying parameters to new registers, even though it will not need the unmodified parameters again :/ 12.26.53 # Gcc is doing stuff like that on all 3 target architectures I know. ARM is usually still the best of the three... 12.28.22 Nick fxb__ is now known as fxb (n=felixbru@h1252615.stratoserver.net) 12.28.53 Quit TheSphinX^ ("XChat@Linux") 12.28.54 # i can also save some by managing my own constants pool... the ARMv4 version can pack them into halfwords and use ldrsh in place of ldr, and ARMv5+ can save 4 bytes for every two constants loaded by using ldrd as you suggested. unfortunately gcc/gas's auto-constant notation is *only* recognized for bare ldr instructions. :/ 12.31.19 Join merbanan [0] (n=banan@217.237.166.82) 12.32.41 Quit Kopfgeldjaeger (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 12.33.42 # * amiconn doesn' 12.33.46 Join domonoky [0] (n=Domonoky@rockbox/developer/domonoky) 12.33.48 # t consider that a problem 12.34.13 # On the other architecures, gas doesn't support this auto-constant notation anyway 12.35.15 # * amiconn rarely uses it because arm was the last of the 3 architecures he learned 12.38.10 Join Kopfgeldjaeger [0] (n=nicolai@monitor-mode-enabled-on-mon0.phy0.de) 12.38.46 Join dfkt [0] (i=dfkt@unaffiliated/dfkt) 12.39.39 # i'll need to unlearn it, since it's pretty clear that both code-size and constant-pool size can potentially be saved by avoiding it. i doubt i'll be doing *much* coldfire or sh-1 work going forward, though, since i don't have one handy to test on 12.42.59 # * amiconn should probably read up on (i)dct in order to actually understand what he's doing 12.44.01 # There seem to be two ways of calculating it - one involving "butterflies" and another one which doesn't and seems to be better if the architecture has fast mac instructions 12.48.24 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 12.48.44 # i'm pretty sure there are more than two... AAN looks interesting if you have vector floating point, or *maybe* with vector shifted-output integer multiplies. the implementation i saw had quite a bit fewer multiplies in the per-row/per-column parts, but did a per-element premultiply with an 8x8 array of constants. 12.49.08 # that sort of operation can be done very quickly on a vector processor, of course. :) 12.50.07 Quit AlexP (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 12.50.08 Quit MU{lappy} (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 12.58.54 Quit stoffel (Remote closed the connection) 13.03.05 Join Thundercloud [0] (n=thunderc@84-51-130-71.judith186.adsl.metronet.co.uk) 13.06.18 Join petur [0] (n=peter@rockbox/developer/petur) 13.10.04 Quit robin0800 (Remote closed the connection) 13.10.46 Join robin0800 [0] (n=root@general-ld-216.t-mobile.co.uk) 13.11.15 # I'm guessing my dap isn't detected as a usb-serial device ? : http://pastebin.com/d5d63d93b 13.14.51 # New commit by 03Ubuntuxer (r21529): FS#10294: reform the weird buttons in maze and mazezam for Fuze, E200 and ipod3G 13.16.06 # does enabling the replaygain option in Rockbox have any effect on the battery runtime? 13.16.56 # yay for more PLA exceptions ;\ 13.18.04 Quit evilnick_home (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 13.18.54 # mt: yes, this dmesg output only shows a rockbox hid device. 13.20.41 Join _lifeless [0] (n=lifeless@188.16.74.215) 13.21.00 # mt: maybe you have to disable hid, to get usb-serial working ? 13.22.52 # I'll try that .. I'll also check out an older revision to experiment with it. 13.23.51 Join evilnick_home [0] (n=evilnick@pool-173-52-144-203.nycmny.east.verizon.net) 13.24.19 Join s1mple_m4n__ [0] (n=roy@118-92-143-105.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz) 13.27.33 # * pixelma thinks Ubuntuxer should be here more often though 13.27.39 Join kugel [0] (n=kugel@rockbox/developer/kugel) 13.28.21 Quit dmb (No route to host) 13.28.41 # indeed 13.30.06 # weird commit, he seperated 3G from the other ipods keymappings. 13.31.16 # well, the 3G has a completely different button layout... 13.31.48 # ah yea, that one 13.32.40 # (I also had to consult the "current build" page to find that out :D) 13.32.48 # I'm not sure why it's "weird" enough when the scrollwheel is used on the e200/fuze, but "less weird" on the 3G 13.35.25 # i don't think the 3G actualy used the scrollwheel 13.35.39 Quit __lifeless (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 13.35.56 # at least on the ipod video, maze only uses play/pause, menu, ffwd and rwd 13.37.47 Join MU{lappy} [0] (n=unhelpfu@pool-72-70-187-147.hrbgpa.fios.verizon.net) 13.37.54 Quit MU{lappy} (Client Quit) 13.37.59 Join MU{lappy} [0] (n=unhelpfu@pool-72-70-187-147.hrbgpa.fios.verizon.net) 13.38.28 # which, looking at the button layout of the 3G, looks confusing 13.38.37 Quit mt (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 13.39.59 # I wonder whether he'll also adapt the manual's button table(s) 13.41.20 Join AlexP [0] (n=alex@rockbox/staff/AlexP) 13.44.48 # hi all - just installed rockbox on a gigabeat f20 i was given. really enjoying it. 13.46.50 Join mt [0] (n=MTee@rockbox/developer/mt) 13.49.45 Quit s1mple_m4n__ ("Ex-Chat") 13.50.39 Quit robin0800 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 13.50.56 Join robin0800 [0] (n=root@general-ld-216.t-mobile.co.uk) 13.52.22 Join darkhamm [0] (n=darkhamm@host180-176-dynamic.46-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) 13.55.10 Nick J-23 is now known as Niemoralny_Janek (n=zelazko@unix.net.pl) 13.55.36 Nick Niemoralny_Janek is now known as J-23 (n=zelazko@unix.net.pl) 13.58.44 Join lee321987 [0] (n=chatzill@67.150.84.63) 13.59.41 # I'm trying to find a Sansa e200 on eBay. Is there any way to tell if it's a v1/v2 while the player is sealed in it's original packaging? 14.00.13 # lee321987: Not with 100% certainty, but if the packaging mentioned Audible support it's most likely a v2 14.00.30 # And if it doesn't, it's most likely not a v2 14.00.40 # Thanks 14.00.59 # But there have been cases of v2s in v1 packaging and vice versa 14.01.56 # Very rarely, right? 14.02.38 Nick fxb is now known as fxb__ (n=felixbru@h1252615.stratoserver.net) 14.04.52 Nick fxb__ is now known as fxb (n=felixbru@h1252615.stratoserver.net) 14.05.05 Quit krazykit (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 14.05.48 Join krazykit [0] (n=kkit@c-24-218-166-241.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) 14.08.17 # amiconn: found it. one multiply per element for prescale, plus 6 multiplies per row or column, it appears. http://git.ffmpeg.org/?p=ffmpeg;a=blob;f=libavcodec/faanidct.c;h=dc3d8fbb812b743d83b2cdba65140f9e4278afce;hb=HEAD 14.20.07 Quit lee321987 ("ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 3.0.11/2009060215]") 14.22.00 # lilltiger: it happens fairly often 14.22.04 # oops 14.22.17 # that was meant for lee321987 14.24.00 Quit Thundercloud (Remote closed the connection) 14.29.06 # gevaerts : Do I have to disable HID enumeration to get the dap to be recognized as a usb-serial device ? 14.32.22 # mt: are you enabling logf over usb in the debug menu? 14.32.52 # gevaerts: yes. 14.33.27 # did you modprobe usb_serial with the right parameters? 14.34.13 # Yes .. nevermind, it works now. :) 14.34.35 # good :) 14.38.35 # But something weird happens when I'm using logf .. When logf is called (I suppose) the dap just powers off, and I won't be able to power it on again unless I remove the battery and put it back in place. 14.39.47 Join framo4 [0] (n=chatzill@ip-87-82-152-129.easynet.co.uk) 14.40.05 # what dap is this? 14.40.10 # e200 14.40.45 # you should be able to power it off by pressing power for a long time (around 30 seconds should do it) 14.41.11 # hm, wait 14.41.13 # * gevaerts re-reads 14.41.19 # :) 14.41.59 # It could in fact be turned on but not responding 14.42.03 # true 14.42.05 # In which case long power might help 14.42.39 Quit at0m (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 14.42.44 # I've had that a few times, where I thought it wouldn't turn on, but it turned out that it *was* turned on all along 14.43.24 # that happens sometimes with my nano too, when i boot it just flickers and the display doesn't come on, and i have to menu+select 14.43.31 # rasher : All the lights go off in a pretty short time so that's why I assumed it's turned off .. I'll try again 14.45.06 # After establishing a usbserial connection .. is there any tests I could do to check ? like send something from the dap to the computer or the other way round ? 14.47.17 Quit robin0800 (Remote closed the connection) 14.47.26 # rasher : Turns out it was in fact turned on. :) 14.48.11 # That's a lesser mystery solved, then 14.48.26 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 14.48.32 # mt: enable logf in usb_serial.c :) 14.48.55 # That should echo back what you send from the computer 14.49.18 # gevaerts: Great. Thanks ! 14.59.43 Join faemir [0] (n=faemir@78.33.109.163) 15.01.31 Join n00b81 [0] (n=taylor@unaffiliated/n00b81) 15.01.55 Part n00b81 ("Leaving") 15.04.29 Join notlistening [0] (n=tom@94-195-105-95.zone9.bethere.co.uk) 15.09.39 Join cmwslw [0] (n=cmwslw@c-98-249-113-152.hsd1.tn.comcast.net) 15.09.50 Part cmwslw ("Ex-Chat") 15.11.22 Join n00b81 [0] (n=taylor@unaffiliated/n00b81) 15.11.29 Part n00b81 ("Leaving") 15.15.28 Join moos [0] (i=mustapha@rockbox/staff/moos) 15.23.12 # domonoky, there is no need to worry about the .wav file extension now as i have coded around to alow any file extension to be used ;) 15.23.49 # good :-) 15.26.18 # also the the wine/windows issue could be easily solved in the server by looking at the filename rbutil gives you. if it starts with "/" add a "Z:" if it already starts with a drive letter, dont change it :-) 15.28.42 # and the server should output something recongniseable when its ready to accept connections. Then i can let rbutil wait for that. 15.31.21 Join robin0800 [0] (n=root@general-ld-216.t-mobile.co.uk) 15.33.32 # notlistening: also improving the sapi server protokoll would be nice. like standardizied message format. OK/Fail reponses to all commands etc.. so there is work for you :-) 15.36.28 # yep will do that ;) 15.37.08 # currently the test spech engine generates a clip and then removes it in rbutil should it playu the clip as well? 15.37.55 # you mean the testMe command, or the testTTS function in rbutil ? 15.39.57 # the testTTS function in rbutil should play the generated file, but it looks like QSound::play() doesnt work on some linux (probably depended on audio subsystem). 15.41.05 # ah okay, best leave that one alone 15.41.28 # i am using pulseaduio on ubuntu and did not get anything 15.42.11 # i should probably change it to use a test function of the tts, like your testMe command. But then i need that for all tts engines (should be possible, but is more work). 15.43.14 # the other option is to use Phonon instead of QSound, but that means we need to include a whole new Qt subsystem for one function.. :-/ 15.43.42 # :P humm maybe not 15.43.52 # audio is a real pain huhj 15.44.18 # Docs say QSound only works with NAS on linux :-/ 15.45.54 # oh how many people are using NAS? 15.47.25 # dont know. i will just change it to use a tts specific test function :-) 15.47.46 # maybe allowing to specify a tool to play sound like another app i use aplay $file as the command to get sound 15.47.57 # ok 15.49.29 # at the moment the server pipes sound through wine so if a users wine is not configured for sound then the test sound will not work but outputting a wav file wil 15.50.25 # hm, true generating a wav file is also a better test if it really works.. maybe i should look into Phonon :-) 16.00.33 # another idea is to just call a external exe to play the file on linux. is there some standard command to play wavfiles in linux ? 16.04.30 Quit petur ("weekend....") 16.17.43 Quit framo4 ("muuh") 16.17.47 # aplay is the safest i think but that is alsa specific are also paolay and others 16.18.44 # there's a good question for someone who know more than i 16.21.57 Quit moos (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 16.23.17 # everything has its drawbacks.. i will just let it be broken on linux for now :-) 16.24.34 Quit notlistening ("Leaving") 16.24.39 # domonoky: aplay 16.25.00 # is the only that is avaible on "all" systems 16.28.44 # domonoky: are you already using Qt libs, then using Phonon is no issue for linux users as 99% of em uses an dynamicly linked Qt and got the whole suit avaible 16.29.18 # Qt!=KDE 16.29.49 # Also, rbutil is distributed as a statically linked binary 16.30.02 # lilltiger: but we provide rbutil as static binary on linux for maximum compatibility. Dont know how big it will get, if we use Phonon too. 16.30.14 # gevaerts: Phonon is part of Qt now. 16.30.25 # it is? 16.30.26 # gevaerts: Phonon is now a part of Qt not KDE 16.31.06 # domonoky: ahh ok 16.31.51 # and it still complicates everything, as the prebuild-qt-dev package doesnt ship the phonon lib, you have to rebuild Qt. 16.33.11 # mmm 16.33.19 # static linking is horrible :p 16.33.22 # * gevaerts still thinks rbutil should have used plain xlib ;) 16.33.31 # lilltiger: do you have a usable alternmative? 16.34.35 # gevaerts: for linux in general dynamic is better, while that would exclude most of the embedded systems 16.35.16 # lilltiger: but how do you handle depencies then, if the programm isnt in the package repository ? 16.35.17 # lilltiger: if you manage to make a dynamically linked binary that works on all systems, sure. Good luck with that though 16.36.07 # domonoky: you adds checks for them on the build file, ex. cmake have the Find* scripts to check for them 16.36.31 # that's build-time 16.36.50 # yes why supply binary on linux? 16.36.57 # lilltiger: binary distribution please :-) users who need rbutil, are not neccessary able to compile. 16.37.01 # ahh 16.37.06 # hmm 16.37.18 # shouldn't libao give you playback on most unices? 16.39.01 # domonoky: but what linux users arent able to build, ie let the distros stand for the packaging like for all other apps? 16.40.17 # lilltiger: in the long run, sure, but that requires being able to guarantee that today's rbutil can install any version of rockbox between now and about two years in the future 16.41.02 # gevaerts: hmm that could be solved by making it able to upgrade itself 16.41.20 # lilltiger: you mean by having it download a binary from rockbox.org? 16.41.43 # Mikachu: not sure. Doesn't libao use lots of dynamic linking to get that compatibility? 16.41.45 # that sort of defeats the purpose of packaging it 16.41.56 # gevaerts: well using Qt, you could use the plugin system and just download binary plugins 16.42.22 # gevaerts: you could link dynamically to libao 16.43.00 # Mikachu: how stable is the libao ABI? 16.43.10 # dunno :) 16.43.12 # Mikachu: we dont want to link dynamically, users without libao will come and complain that rbutil doesnt work.. 16.43.27 # i can promise you more people have libao than qt-phonon 16.43.59 # Mikachu: if they all have a libao with exactly the same ABI, that works 16.44.10 # last release was in 2007 :) 16.44.38 # Mikachu: if we use phonon, it would also be statically linked (on linux). 16.44.38 # lilltiger: that requires a stable unchanging base. domonoky may correct me, but from what I see I don't think that's there yet 16.44.58 Quit robin0800 (Remote closed the connection) 16.45.03 # rbutil still changes often.. 16.45.13 # * gevaerts thinks that exec(aplay) will be the most reliable solution 16.45.16 # domonoky: in the core? 16.45.47 # lilltiger: yes, we are in the middle of some rework to better seperate gui and core :-) 16.45.52 # i agree with gevaerts, using aplay and play, (check if aplay is there if not try play) 16.46.16 # yes using aplay sounds like the sanes solution for now. 16.46.19 # doesn't aplay require alsa? 16.46.20 # cat >/dev/dsp? ;) 16.46.23 # domonoky: ahh ok ;) 16.46.37 # Mikachu: yes, thats why fallback on play 16.47.03 # gevaerts: that would work nearly everywhere, but might play wrong, depending on samplerates etc. 16.47.26 # domonoky: you can't have everything! 16.47.35 # :-) 16.47.52 Quit avacore^ (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 16.47.58 # gevaerts: and that would require root access as well as some distros limits the access to /dev/dsp 16.48.30 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 16.48.34 # The nice thing about using aplay or play is that there's only this tiny bit that fails if they're not available 16.48.54 # lilltiger: in that case I'd expect play to fail as well 16.49.15 # play is from sox, it could use any audio output subsystem 16.49.38 # mine supports alsa, libao and oss 16.49.41 # gevaerts: thoes distros often have play/aplay flag to allow em to access root devices 16.50.02 # but anyway, I think having this particular feature fail for some users is not a problem I think, as long as the rest of rbutil keeps working 16.50.25 # * gevaerts thinks that maybe he shouldn't have thought twice 16.51.00 Quit darkhamm (Client Quit) 16.51.02 # There are also those who just don't have working sound at all... 16.51.24 # * domonoky now trys aplay/play. Its non-fatal if there arnt there (better than a lib which is not available). 16.51.34 # gevaerts: god for aplay and if that fails either to play or not found try play, play is less solid, crashes more often and not avaible on men alsa systems, while it's as good as always avaible on non alsa systems 16.51.41 Join avacore [0] (i=nobody@1008ds1-rdo.0.fullrate.dk) 16.52.27 # lilltiger: I somehow suspect that people who use non alsa systems can be expected to know what they're doing :) 16.53.31 # * kugel has a go at reworking PLA 16.53.45 # gevaerts: mmm, or using some damn old linux dist ;) 16.54.54 # dol? 16.55.31 # ;D 16.57.37 # domonoky: you should look up the QPlugin classes, awsome way to support new players and stuff by just having the users to download plugins 16.59.09 # lilltiger: i know about the QPlugin system. but you need to correctly design it to make it useable. Also it clashes with the current system of a single binary :-) 16.59.33 Quit FlynDice (Remote closed the connection) 16.59.40 Join Teemu123456 [0] (n=asgd@dsl-trebrasgw2-fecbdd00-1.dhcp.inet.fi) 16.59.40 # domonoky: indeed, was just suggesting it :) as I dident know if you knew about it or not 17.00.44 Join FlynDice [0] (n=FlynDice@c-24-19-225-90.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) 17.01.11 Quit Teemu123456 (Client Quit) 17.04.30 Join tvelocity [0] (n=tony@adsl21-240.her.forthnet.gr) 17.04.57 # New commit by 03Domonoky (r21530): rbutil: make the test TTS Function use aplay or play on Linux. 17.05.01 Join robin0800 [0] (n=root@general-ld-216.t-mobile.co.uk) 17.05.22 # lilltiger: feel free to helput improving rbutil :-) 17.07.35 # domonoky: I already have to meny projects in the fire right now ;D im making an program that will adjust the size of LE exec (old dos games) to make em bigger to help modders, im also building an game lobby for Master of orion 2, and im reverse engineering the same game.. and I need to start looking for jobb.. so much to do :( 17.08.49 Quit tvelocity (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 17.10.07 Join tvelocity [0] (n=tony@adsl21-240.her.forthnet.gr) 17.12.49 Quit tvelocity (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 17.18.54 Quit merbanan (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 17.19.29 Join n00b81 [0] (n=taylor@unaffiliated/n00b81) 17.21.44 # New commit by 03Domonoky (r21531): rbutil: move ProgressloggerInterface to base/ 17.21.54 Join merbanan [0] (n=banan@217.237.166.82) 17.22.58 Join Cory [0] (n=cory@h196.24.19.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net) 17.23.07 Nick Cory is now known as Cory` (n=cory@h196.24.19.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net) 17.51.03 Quit matsl_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 17.51.07 Join toffe82 [0] (n=chatzill@adsl-71-132-86-91.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net) 17.51.52 Part n00b81 ("Leaving") 17.53.04 # http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/10387 17.56.22 Join archivator [0] (n=archivat@77.70.28.57) 18.00.41 # I've compiled a 64 bit version of rbutil 1.2.2 and it's up at http://files.getdropbox.com/u/137119/rbutilqt-v1.2.2-64bit.tar.bz2 - if someone could test it first, that'd be great 18.01.25 # Also, you might want to recompress it, it's not at max settings. 18.02.47 Quit merbanan (Remote closed the connection) 18.04.40 # Bagder, ping 18.09.29 Quit kugel (Remote closed the connection) 18.17.28 Join |desowin| [0] (n=desowin@hdp186.internetdsl.tpnet.pl) 18.17.51 Quit |desowin| (Remote closed the connection) 18.18.36 Join n00b81 [0] (n=taylor@unaffiliated/n00b81) 18.18.39 Join desowin [0] (n=desowin@atheme/member/desowin) 18.18.47 Quit Sajber^ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 18.24.08 Quit SUSaiyan` (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 18.27.06 Quit archivator (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 18.27.29 Part n00b81 ("Leaving") 18.27.39 Join archivator [0] (n=archivat@77.70.28.57) 18.28.07 Nick archivator is now known as Guest11199 (n=archivat@77.70.28.57) 18.29.23 Quit dfkt ("-= SysReset 2.53=- Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn.") 18.32.24 Join bertrik [0] (n=bertrik@ip117-49-211-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl) 18.47.00 Quit bmbl ("Bye!") 18.48.31 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 18.49.53 Quit faemir (Remote closed the connection) 18.51.49 Quit Guest11199 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 18.56.02 Quit desowin ("KVIrc Insomnia 4.0.0, revision: 3289, sources date: 20090520, built on: 2009/06/27 15:42:20 UTC 3289 http://www.kvirc.net/") 19.01.06 Nick cg__ is now known as cg_ (n=cromos@cable-kmi-fe71de00-186.dhcp.inet.fi) 19.06.15 Join froggyman [0] (n=4845d99e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-e6b118668bf6d3b1) 19.12.22 Quit robin0800 (Remote closed the connection) 19.18.06 Quit toffe82 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 19.29.11 Nick Zarggg_ is now known as Zarggg (n=zarggg@65-78-69-194.c3-0.eas-ubr6.atw-eas.pa.cable.rcn.com) 19.29.17 Quit BlakeJohnson86 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 19.29.57 Join toffe82_ [0] (n=chatzill@ppp-71-130-78-13.dsl.frs2ca.pacbell.net) 19.30.59 Join BlakeJohnson86 [0] (n=bjohnson@c-24-118-162-123.hsd1.mn.comcast.net) 19.33.37 Quit ender` (" The first 90% of the code accounts for the first 90% of the development time. 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Is it even a Rockbox target? 19.54.09 # is this even Rockbox related? 19.54.32 # sorry the e200v2 is the player i am talking about 19.55.04 # yeah i am working on the SA{i stuff for rockbox with rbutil 19.55.10 # SAPI 19.58.18 # notlistening: check your filesystem for corruption.. 19.58.52 # ok ;) 19.59.55 Quit froggyman ("CGI:IRC") 20.02.56 # umm got a question not it says fats seem to differ use withch fat firdt or second? 20.03.17 # *first or second? 20.05.53 # do you have a coin handy? If so, flip it 20.06.21 # haha humm well if lets see first it is :D 20.08.39 # well rockbox is being naughty on my player :D 20.09.43 Quit Thundercloud (Remote closed the connection) 20.10.11 # is it intresting for anyone to know what the problem are 20.12.52 # depends. did you reinstall rockbox after fixing the filesystem problem ? 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Can you explain that to me? 21.10.48 # New commit by 03bertrik (r21532): Meizu M3: implement logarithmic brightness curve (curve provided by markun) and increase PWM frequency for the backlight. 21.11.22 Join at0m [0] (n=at0m@94-225-90-23.access.telenet.be) 21.15.35 Join bluebrother^ [0] (n=Dom@g224238104.adsl.alicedsl.de) 21.18.42 # bertrik: we got as far as talking to the LCD controller over SPI, but after getting back the correct ID value we didn't see anything happen 21.19.07 # gevaerts, oh well, that's a good start already 21.19.22 # so basically we don't even know if the spi write is working, there's no ack involved 21.19.23 # I could check the OF for an initialisation sequence 21.19.50 # ah you mean, you're only really sure that the spi read worked (not the write) 21.19.54 # yes 21.20.52 # and backlight was also enabled during those tests (ok, stupid question) 21.20.52 # there's an initialisation sequence over on meizume.com, but we should have the same ones in lcd-m6sl.c and lcd-m6sp.c 21.21.14 # yes. backlight and slider were the only things we used 21.21.32 # did you get markun's spec package? 21.21.58 # if you also got the SPI controllers initialisation from the OF, then I would be surprised if write wouldn't work 21.22.04 # gevaerts, yes 21.22.18 # ok. 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The plugin is too big for the plugin buffer. Short inspections shows a ~130kb big cosinus table :-) 22.25.55 # nice :) 22.28.41 # btw i wonder about the data corruption on the sansas, isent the storage plain vfat? 22.29.45 # lilltiger, yes it is FAT as far as I know 22.31.26 # then why does the corruption appear, as the support for FAT should be kinda flawless? 22.31.53 # (a) it doesn't appear anymore as far as I know, and (b) it was at a lower level, in the sd driver 22.32.00 # I think it happens in the block layer, not in the filesystem layer 22.32.17 # *if it still happens at all 22.32.37 # ahh ok 22.33.09 # lilltiger, I work on the ams sansas, but I don't have a target that showed corruption 22.33.48 Quit Ubuntuxer (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 22.33.49 # ohh so it should be pretty safe to run rockbox on an sansa fuze now? (8GB with 8GB SD) 22.34.27 # ah, you mean the v2 sansas? 22.34.46 # I don't know, but better make sure you have backups of the files on the player 22.35.12 # * gevaerts was thinking about FS#8663 22.39.29 # hm, does the zen vision m have problems with RTC? I think there's a bug in it: it returns a buffer allocated on the stack 22.41.13 # 130kb cosine table? Nice. 22.41.17 # maybe this driver just isn't ready yet 22.41.19 # * bluebrother^ is building Qt 4.5.2 22.43.06 # gevaerts: i think it's an v1, the firware i have installed is v1, does the sansa v1 firmware work on v2 22.43.16 # cos i maybe installed the wrong the first time then... 22.43.32 # lilltiger: do you have an actual problem? 22.44.01 # gevaerts: i havent installed rockbox yet, cos of the data coruption issue :) 22.44.25 # but if thats very rare ill give it a try :) 22.44.44 # afk 20mins 22.45.16 # I haven't heard of it happening in ages 22.46.27 # gevaerts, there was (maybe still is) some corruption issue on the ams sansas > 1GB after we enabled the MMU and the caches 22.46.44 # bertrik: yes, but that's totally unrelated 22.48.38 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 22.52.40 Join BeChris [0] (i=5c89760a@gateway/web/freenode/x-fb201f9c7da6b5c3) 22.52.48 # Hi everybody 22.53.05 # Someone has tested profiling a plugin recently ? 22.59.36 # So wich rev. of rockbox should I try? 23.03.55 # lilltiger: rockbox on e200v1 should work just fine, just install latest. 23.04.02 # sorry to ask again but someone has tested profiling a plugin recently ? 23.05.01 # BeChris: No need to repeat yourself. I think the answer is "no". 23.05.43 # domonoky: so the fuze is e200v1? :) 23.06.13 # thought e200 was another player hehe 23.06.20 # ups :-) 23.07.03 # no the fuze is a AMS target, which is still in development. But you should still just use latest. :-) 23.11.24 # and the data corruption, does the rareness still apply? :P 23.11.59 Quit J-23 (simmons.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 23.11.59 NSplit simmons.freenode.net irc.freenode.net 23.12.18 NHeal simmons.freenode.net irc.freenode.net 23.12.18 NJoin J-23 [0] (n=zelazko@unix.net.pl) 23.13.11 # lilltiger: the chance is there, but its probably rare. Dont store precious things on it. 23.13.20 # lilltiger: e200v1 is portalplayer, e200v2 is ams, fuze is ams 23.14.04 # tmzt: so there is amsV1 and amsV2? 23.14.27 # no 23.14.39 # there is e200 v1 and v2 23.14.44 # so on the fuze the firmware dosent matter? 23.14.49 # this should all be in wiki 23.14.58 # I don't understand 23.15.03 # cos there is 2 different firmwares for the fuze, v1 and v2 23.15.08 # from sansa 23.15.24 # I believe there is a v2 fuze now but it's still ams 23.15.36 # ahh ok :D 23.15.54 # lilltiger: the V1 AMS players are AS3525 23.16.02 # the V2 are AS353X 23.16.23 # that's the codec chip or cpu/soc? 23.16.30 # thanks for clearing it up :) I got confused 23.16.39 # its the SOC 23.16.47 # okay 23.19.42 Quit J-23 (simmons.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 23.20.44 Join faemir [0] (n=faemir@78.33.109.163) 23.23.01 NJoin J-23 [0] (n=zelazko@unix.net.pl) 23.24.46 Join WillHauck [0] (n=4b9fb4d0@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-67174ef3322aeb58) 23.25.19 # Can I have wiki write privilidges please? 23.25.35 # bluebrother^: If the depfile depends on the output, it creates a circular dependency, meaning it will rebuild everytime 23.25.52 # This was highly annoying for voice creation especially on cygwin (sapi...) 23.26.08 # really? The output is only a folder in that case 23.26.23 # and that is needed for creating the depfile. 23.26.24 # Yes, but changing the content of the folder changes its timestamp 23.27.07 # That's the very reason why I changes it - the endless rebuilds cost at least half a minute per voice per target 23.27.15 # doesn't that make the folder newer, thus not requiring it to get recreated? 23.27.17 # *changed 23.27.18 Join ForumJunkie [0] (n=464ec4cd@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-f2e1df78edf0ea80) 23.27.25 # Hi. 23.27.31 # Is anyone there that can help me o_o 23.27.39 # Higghly annoying when building voices for 18 targets and two languages 23.27.58 # Any 23.27.58 # ForumJunkie, just ask and maybe someone who knows will reply 23.28.00 # amiconn: but you broke it with this change. building will fail if the folder doesnt exist :-) 23.28.13 # Can I have wiki write privilidges please? 23.28.17 # sure. But how can this made working correctly? Building the depfile requires the folder 23.28.18 # I am having difficulty installing skins with scrolling margins... Where can I find scrolling margins? 23.28.27 # And AA patch... 23.28.29 # It didn't fail here, with and wothout 'make clean' 23.28.42 # ForumJunkie: Maybe you shouldn't install horribly outdated themes 23.28.43 # ForumJunkie: you neither need scrolling margins nor AA. 23.28.43 # WillHauck: your wikiname ? and promise not to spam ! 23.28.56 # Let the depfile rule create the folder instead of making it depend on it 23.28.59 Join Faethin [0] (n=faethin@190.148.217.50) 23.29.05 # WillHauck: Also, be careful with spelling in the wiki. 23.29.06 # How come my skin looks warped. T_T; 23.29.13 # I think several other places create the necessary dirs like this 23.29.19 # my wiki name: WillHauck 23.29.19 # ForumJunkie: Because it's outdated and was never updated to work with current code. 23.29.49 # WillHauck: done. 23.29.55 # Okay thanks 23.30.00 # Thanks 23.31.24 Join BHSPitLappy [0] (n=BHSPitLa@unaffiliated/bhspitmonkey) 23.31.50 # I bricked my iPod yesterday trying to triple boot iPL and RB. :D 23.32.02 # you can't brick an Ipod. 23.32.06 # no you didnt\ 23.32.14 # Well, broke it. 23.32.15 # =.= 23.32.24 # define "broke" 23.32.38 # I installed iPL on top of 23.32.41 # RB yesterday 23.32.49 # and I cancelled halfway though 23.32.50 # o_o 23.32.53 # I fixed it 23.32.58 # It's a minor ting 23.33.00 # thing* 23.33.08 # ForumJunkie: Please don't use the enter key as punctuation 23.33.15 # well, neither "breaking" nor "bricking" a device tends to be minor... 23.33.49 # What do you mean by enter key as punctuation... Oh never mind.. o_o 23.36.21 Quit ForumJunkie ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 23.41.47 Join tessarakt [0] (n=jens@e180072153.adsl.alicedsl.de) 23.46.55 Quit _lifeless (Read error: 101 (Network is unreachable)) 23.47.18 Join tvelocity [0] (n=tony@adsl21-240.her.forthnet.gr) 23.47.57 Quit tvelocity (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 23.48.42 Join tvelocity [0] (n=tony@adsl21-240.her.forthnet.gr) 23.48.52 Quit tvelocity (Connection reset by peer) 23.49.28 # New commit by 03bluebrother (r21534): Create the output directory in the dependency rule instead of depending on it to prevent recreating it every time. Thanks to amiconn for clarifying ... 23.51.14 Quit BeChris (Ping timeout: 180 seconds) 23.53.37 Quit BHSPitLappy (Remote closed the connection) 23.55.42 # I am new to compiling c and when I try to add a patch on Cygwin, It says that the file 'main.c' cannot be found. The patch is RockLock. I have heard something about it having to 'synced'. How do I do this? 23.56.34 Quit DarkDefender ("Leaving") 23.57.06 # WillHauck: that patch wasn't made entirely properly. For this one, you need to be in apps/ to apply it 23.57.58 # OK