--- Log for 07.07.109 Server: simmons.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: @logbot Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 1 month and 4 days ago 00.00.15 Quit stripwax (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00.04.34 Join webguest04 [0] (n=4b0a97f8@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-60d41485ac37b68b) 00.05.17 Join cooc [0] (n=jonatan@e178229068.adsl.alicedsl.de) 00.05.21 # What is the supported text on rockbox, like can I have html files render on the ipod I have rockbox on 00.05.45 Join safetydan [0] (n=deverton@rockbox/developer/safetydan) 00.05.59 Join funman [0] (n=fun@rockbox/developer/funman) 00.06.00 # webguest04: No, just plain text. 00.06.08 Part cooc ("Verlassend") 00.07.31 # then do you know how I will be able to save the bus schedule on my ipod 00.07.42 # its on www.riderta.com 00.07.46 # They come in PDF 00.08.05 # Rockbox has quite a nice jpeg viewer, so you could maybe use that. 00.08.06 Quit Rondom (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 00.08.14 # saratoga: how can we measure how much current the Sansa AMS draw from the battery ? 00.08.31 Join Rondom [0] (n=Rondom@dslb-084-057-178-255.pools.arcor-ip.net) 00.08.46 Quit Rondom (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 00.08.47 # Cut a wire and measure? 00.09.09 # i was hoping a solution only involving software exists 00.10.30 # we can only measure the battery voltage I think 00.10.42 # not the electric current 00.10.48 # A software solution would only be possible if the target has the necessary hardware to measure current 00.12.13 # There are certainly not many targets which have. I don't know any off the top of my head 00.12.36 # howto pdf2jpg 00.13.07 # webguest04, ask google. 00.13.20 # google sucked on the answer 00.13.23 # webguest04, In linux you can use imagemagic to convert pdf to jpeg 00.13.25 # tis why I asked here 00.13.36 # ok 00.15.21 # or poppler-utils 00.15.31 # then pnm2jpg from pnmtools 00.15.40 # D: 00.15.52 # coudl I get the lay,mans way to do it. I just want to get it on here 00.16.04 # i thought the battery life was calculated from the battery's voltage 00.16.19 # I mean what if I take a screenshot would would have to be the resolution 00.16.21 # webguest04: Feel free to join #rockbox-community and ask there, but how to convert PDF to JPEG isn't a topic for this channel (it's logged). 00.17.06 # /join 00.17.38 Join uwill [0] (n=chatzill@adsl-99-135-15-145.dsl.dytnoh.sbcglobal.net) 00.17.44 Quit webguest04 ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 00.17.51 Quit robin0800 ("Leaving") 00.18.12 Join relentless [0] (n=relentle@adsl-75-10-151-248.dsl.bcvloh.sbcglobal.net) 00.18.13 Join robin0800 [0] (n=robin080@cpc3-brig8-0-0-cust436.brig.cable.ntl.com) 00.19.01 # Sansa c200 -- keeps freezing when trying to copy a certain folder from internal to MicroSD. So I'm about to run fsck.vfat on it. This won't harm the system partition will it? 00.19.13 # at least it's a use for png viewer, they would look horrible in jpeg 00.19.25 # uwill: no it won't if you run fsck.vfat on the normal partition 00.19.27 # uwill: it won't, no 00.21.16 # fsck.vfat output: "There are differences between boot sector and its backup." I chose "Copy backup to original" Result: Invalid disk format 00.23.17 Quit DarkDefender (Remote closed the connection) 00.24.39 # Yeah the backup is rarely useful unless you know the main boot sector is borked 00.24.45 # funman: you likely cannot measure current via software 00.24.53 Quit domonoky (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 00.25.06 # saratoga: could we make estimations with battery_bench? 00.25.19 # i can measure it for you using a DMM hooked up to the battery pack on my e200v2 00.25.21 # if we know the capacity of the battery and in how much time it goes off 00.25.43 # funman: yes you can estimate it althoughh figuring the exact capacity of the battery on that particular charge can be tricky 00.26.18 # Buschel used that method for much of his PP power optimization work 00.26.24 # by doing many, many battery benches 00.27.02 # can the battery charge be very different between 2 charges? 00.28.19 # Ok, no one in #rockbox-community Is answering my question even though they know about it for the pdf thing 00.28.28 # i think Buschel said something like +/- 15 minutes variation was normal on his ipod 00.28.34 Quit barrywardell () 00.28.40 # relentless: You have already been told it is off-topic here. Do not ask again 00.28.59 # then someone answer in there 00.29.21 # stop being a jerk 00.29.24 # relentless: Stop. Now. 00.29.41 # lrn2support 00.29.43 Part relentless ("Leaving") 00.29.55 Mode "#rockbox +o funman " by ChanServ (ChanServ@services.) 00.31.12 # funman: do you need measurements done? 00.31.34 # saratoga: i noticed the battery life estimation can't work on Sansa AMS because we don't have this info 00.31.58 Mode "#rockbox -o funman " by funman (n=fun@rockbox/developer/funman) 00.33.10 # funman: for that purpose it will work well enough to just figure out the runtime and divide by the battery capacity 00.33.21 # but IMO theres no sense adding this until power consumption stabilizes 00.33.30 # linuxstb: as a compromise I reverted the hunks that only contained those trailing space changes 00.34.12 # codecs aren't all that well optimized yet, the unboosted voltage is still too high, and cpu performance seems a bit lower then it should be 00.34.26 # all of these things inflate the runtime current 00.34.29 Join perrikwp1 [0] (n=Keith@rrcs-96-10-92-226.se.biz.rr.com) 00.34.55 # i have some ideas for better performance 00.35.01 # New commit by 03zagor (r21694): Web page support files. 00.35.20 # - verify that disabling the dma clocks really works because i think it's unlikely (far too much dma_retain vs dma_release calls) 00.35.49 # why was the unboosted the clock set so high anyway? 00.35.53 # - have the audio clocks only running when playing audio (will only help if you play games without listening music..) 00.36.14 # the clock must be >= pclk and pclk must be high for good performances 00.36.20 # the datasheet says we save .25mW/MHz 00.36.33 # Zagor: nice commit! 00.37.02 Join barrywardell [0] (n=barrywar@79.97.85.223) 00.37.18 # Bagder: thanks. we're getting closer. 00.39.24 # how did samsung get shortened to smsg? 00.40.05 # I've considered enlarging those names a bit 00.40.49 # New commit by 03mt (r21695): Adding support for rm playback. Only cook codec is supported for now and no seeking. 00.40.58 # and I spot a little flaw in the new build table 00.41.20 # it doesn't show all the changes that are in a single build round 00.41.31 # but we can work on that later on 00.42.02 # coming soonish: fm radio on meizu 00.42.16 # Bagder: yes, in case there were skipped revisions. I chose to ignore that for now. 00.42.30 # that's what I meant, yes 00.43.30 # I love the auto-update feature! 00.43.58 # yeah, it's slick 00.44.12 # great if you ever need a small botnet 00.44.25 # Mikachu: :) 00.44.31 # sssshhhh! 00.44.46 # please don't spoil our evil plot 00.45.19 # Mikachu: they wouldn't change the build system for that 00.46.30 # markun: there is no mysterious EEPROM device on i2c address 0x22, it's the radio :P 00.46.55 Quit perrikwp (Connection timed out) 00.47.02 # bertrik: if you have RTC and radio, you can make an alarm clock. Who needs flash? :) 00.47.15 # bertrik: before working on meizu storage, you can train on the Clipv2 SD controller ! 00.48.31 # * Zagor enables post-commit hook for new builds 00.48.53 # Zagor: So the new system is tracking the old one now? 00.49.04 Join BHSPitMonkey [0] (n=stephen@unaffiliated/bhspitmonkey) 00.49.25 # rasher: yes. there's a bit left to do on the web page though 00.53.23 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 00.55.54 Quit dmb ("Leaving") 00.57.01 # Why the red on M5 - sim ? 00.57.06 Quit ender` (" Connection Reset by Gypsies with Wire Cutters") 00.57.13 Quit HellDragon (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 00.57.15 # Bagder, Zagor: could you also add the Onda VX777 to http://build.rockbox.org/new.cgi ? 00.57.36 # mt: my guess would be bad RAM on the build server 00.58.13 # gevaerts: So I shouldn't worry about it ? 00.58.40 # I guess there is no chance for the buioldpage to be redesigned to go with the new build server aye? 00.58.44 # mt: there's another M5 - sim red a few builds down. Exactly the same 00.58.50 # its realy rediculously wide now 00.59.11 # gevaerts: Yes I noticed that, I was just checking to make sure 00.59.16 # JdGordon|: do you have a suggestion? 00.59.22 # *to make sure I didn't break something 01.00.00 # wasnt there a plan to rotate it so its builds across the top and targets goign down? 01.00.06 # separated bootloader / build / sim tables 01.00.26 # JdGordon|: most screens are wider than high no ? 01.00.30 Join p3tur [50] (n=petur@rockbox/developer/petur) 01.00.36 # * mt goes to sleep. Goodnight! 01.00.42 # yes, but scrolling down feels more natural 01.00.58 # the wide table doesn't really bother me 01.00.59 # funman: I don't think seperate tables will be better readable 01.01.18 Quit mt (Remote closed the connection) 01.01.53 Quit mcuelenaere () 01.01.54 Join T045T [0] (n=T045T@koln-4db46dc5.pool.einsundeins.de) 01.01.58 Join fdinel [0] (n=Miranda@modemcable204.232-203-24.mc.videotron.ca) 01.01.59 # cookies that let you say which one to put on the left edge! 01.02.20 # thanks for volanteering :) 01.02.21 Join martian67 [0] (n=martian6@about/linux/regular/martian67) 01.03.49 Quit martian67 (SendQ exceeded) 01.04.11 # hi :) can somebody help me getting Rockbox to run on a Gigabeat S? I got as far as compiling sendfirm but now I get "ptp_usb_getresp: detected short response of 33 bytes..." and the player gets stuck on the loading screen after that 01.04.37 # Bagder: we should add an "exclude" feature to rbmaster, that lets commander exclude clients from the builds. 01.04.53 Join martian67 [0] (n=martian6@about/linux/regular/martian67) 01.06.52 Quit uwill ("ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.0.11/2009060309]") 01.11.30 Join HellDragon [0] (i=jd@modemcable178.248-201-24.mc.videotron.ca) 01.12.34 Join dmb [0] (n=Dmb@unaffiliated/dmb) 01.14.09 Quit petur (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 01.14.16 Nick p3tur is now known as petur (n=petur@rockbox/developer/petur) 01.15.56 # New commit by 03pixelma (r21696): More cleanup and rearrangement for three column button tables in the manual. Most importantly: move the recently added IRIVER_RC_H100_PAD opt - ... 01.17.22 Quit petur ("Zzzzzzz") 01.17.29 # what... it looked like that's been pasted even though the full diff hadn't been transferred yet 01.18.02 # are you sure it hadn't been transferred? 01.18.19 # the svn ci command will block until the post commit hook has returned i think 01.18.37 # yes. We need to train CIA-71 just a tiny bit more so it actually tells us about commits we haven't done at all yet, and then it's a small step to fully automated code generation 01.19.18 # * Zagor adds some & to post-commit 01.20.37 Quit stripwax5443 ("http://miranda-im.org") 01.21.50 Quit efyx__ (Remote closed the connection) 01.22.22 Quit JdGordon| ("Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org") 01.25.18 Join lee321987 [0] (n=chatzill@adsl-99-135-15-145.dsl.dytnoh.sbcglobal.net) 01.25.35 Quit BHSPitMonkey (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 01.25.38 # Is there anything wrong with taking a config.cfg file from a c200, and using it on an e200? 01.25.58 Quit _Auron_ ("Infinity repeatedly denies rumours of plotting with zero to bring down the Universe.") 01.26.48 Part toffe82 01.26.52 Join BHSPitMonkey [0] (n=stephen@unaffiliated/bhspitmonkey) 01.27.34 Join Strife89 [0] (n=449a13ca@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-2058a6a91928c923) 01.27.55 # T045T: I haven't heard of that message before. I assume you are on Linux? 01.28.34 # * ej0rge thinks he's heard of that message before but has no suggestions 01.28.47 Quit HellDragon (Client Quit) 01.29.18 # linuxstb: yes. I tried it on a windows machine with a precompiled binary of sendfirm.exe as well and it told me everything went well, but the player wouldn't restart properly either :( 01.30.31 # T045T: And your S works normally with the original firmware? i.e. no USB issues transferring files? 01.31.53 # argh... that commit contained an unrelated change (the Iaudio remote svg) 01.32.30 # I think so... I never used it with windows, only on a mac using XNJB ... talking to the dev of that, I learned that it has a really weird and technically wrong implementation of MTP on it... but that's true for all Gigabeat Ss 01.32.35 Quit gevaerts (Nick collision from services.) 01.32.44 Join gevaerts [0] (n=fg@rockbox/developer/gevaerts) 01.32.55 # should I revert that one file? 01.33.49 Quit robin0800 ("Leaving") 01.33.59 # T045T: I vaguely remember that some usb ports worked better than others for me 01.34.15 # pixelma: If the change itself was OK, I would just leave it. Unless you think it's important to say something in a commit message. 01.35.00 # T045T: Yes, that would be my first advice as well - try different USB ports and different cables... If you're using a hub, then try without. 01.35.27 # well, it actually needs adapting the pdf and png with it (which I haven't prepared yet and I wanted to go to sleep now) 01.35.47 # pixelma: Then I guess it makes sense to revert it. 01.35.50 # ej0rge: wow, I didn't even think of that *facepalm* I went straight to updating libmtp :D 01.35.52 Join JdGordon| [0] (i=63cc5c78@gateway/web/freenode/x-419c937b3d183062) 01.38.56 # T045T: iirc, i couldn't get it to work from a usb1.1 port or from a usb2 port on a cardbus card in a laptop, but a motherboard-integrated high speed usb2 port worked 01.39.13 # I tried on a front USB port so far 01.39.53 # come to think of it, those have always been kind of flaky... I though it was a problem with my old mainboard's USB controller though... 01.40.12 Quit lee321987 ("ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.0.11/2009060215]") 01.41.07 # okay, the first of my back ports gives the same error 01.41.13 # T045T: I hope I'm not misleading you. It's been months. 01.41.44 Join _Auron_ [0] (n=DarkAuro@adsl-99-170-79-85.dsl.rcsntx.sbcglobal.net) 01.41.50 # New commit by 03pixelma (r21697): Revert the m3-remote.svg that accidentally got committed with the button table changes in r21696. It needs a little preparation and a commit on its ... 01.41.52 # plus I'm getting a LIBMTP PANIC: create_usb_mtp_devices(): could not inspect object property descriptions! 01.41.57 # twice, even :( 01.42.29 # ej0rge: at least you're leading me somewhere ;) I was ready to give up and go back to the original firmware 01.42.34 Join kkurbjun [0] (n=kkurbjun@rockbox/developer/kkurbjun) 01.42.38 Quit Zagor ("Clint excited") 01.43.53 # I actually only meant the changes to the svg... 01.44.20 Quit dmb (Client Quit) 01.46.15 Quit Thundercloud (Remote closed the connection) 01.47.40 Join dmb [0] (n=Dmb@unaffiliated/dmb) 01.49.01 # T045T: well like i said, it's been months. the last few times I've rockboxed an S, i used the vista-bearing laptop and precompiled windows binary that finally worked for me 01.49.13 # ej0rge, linuxstb, thanks for your advice, but I don't think I'll finish this tonight 01.49.23 # * gevaerts never had problems with sendfirm on linux 01.49.44 # ej0rge: I think that's what I'll do eventually... or just wait for it to be integrated in a regular release 01.50.37 # T045T: No-one else has reported your issue, so if you don't help us solve it (assuming it's something we're doing wrong), it won't get fixed... 01.50.46 Nick fxb is now known as fxb__ (n=felixbru@h1252615.stratoserver.net) 01.50.48 # gevaerts: I had difficulty compiling sendfirm on linux 01.51.04 # iirc i had a newer libmtp than was supported or something 01.51.43 # ej0rge: when was that? There have been changes to sendfirm to support two versions of libmtp, but I don't remember which or when 01.52.31 # linuxstb: it's probably safer to assume I'm the one causing the issue, because I'm using Sabayon at the moment, and equo (their package manager) doesn't really have a release numbering system, which results in kind of a mix and match situation whenever I update anything 01.52.35 Quit dmb (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 01.52.38 Join dmb_ [0] (n=Dmb@ool-4573a3fb.dyn.optonline.net) 01.52.38 # gevaerts: months ago 01.52.40 Quit Strife89 ("Dinner.") 01.54.00 # I'm probably still going to try it again, but not any time soon... I need the Gigabeat for a looong vacation soon where I'm not going to have a laptop with me, so I'd rather have it in a working state ;) 01.54.05 # ej0rge: the fixes were on 2009-02-08 01.54.49 # gevaerts: that could have been when i was working on it. I do recall coming here for help. 02.03.04 # kkurbjun: which wps is that statusbar issue with? all of them? or.. does it have either of the %wd %we tags? 02.03.37 # hmm, I am using the default wps when I have the m:robe compiled for 480x640 02.04.09 # I'm not sure which wps file it loads for that 02.04.36 # default cabbie? or default default? 02.04.48 # I think default default 02.04.50 # kkurbjun: have you ever tried mpegplayer at full resolution? 02.05.11 # not at 640x480 it stutters at 320x240 02.05.37 # I'm not sure how fast it would be at that resolution, but I'm guessing slow 02.05.49 # How fast is the CPU? 02.06.33 # it has hardware that could help speed it up alot, but I have not messed around with it much - it has a DSP running at 100 MHz which is pretty much unused except to start dma transfers for the sound and an arm running at 200 02.06.52 # it also has a hardware idct and motion compensation 02.07.14 # The yuv2rgb conversion takes a big chunk of time - does the lcd have a yuv mode? 02.07.45 # yeah, it has a hardware yuv to rgb conversion also - it is using that right now 02.08.03 # the code to setup the yuv for the lcd could definately be optimized mroe 02.08.10 # Hmm, then I'm surprised it's struggling at 320x240... 02.08.18 # since the hardware expects the yuv to be in a particular format 02.08.36 # when I tried it it looked fine to me, but maybe I was using an unreasonably low bitrate 02.08.54 # gevaerts: You're talking about a 320x240 video? 02.08.56 # yes 02.09.18 # sorry, not motion compensation, it's quantization/inverse quantization 02.09.20 # Then it sounds like it's borderline.... Which I guess is to be expected. The ipod video can't play 320x240 in realtime... 02.10.12 Quit JdGordon| (Ping timeout: 180 seconds) 02.10.17 # * linuxstb would still like MrSomeone to work on other video codecs, just to see how they compare... 02.10.24 Quit T045T () 02.10.31 # the m:robe doesn't stutter much at 320x240 - once everything is buffered it runs fine 02.11.00 # Do you know what (if any) video the OF plays? 02.11.27 # the OF doesn't play any video - neuros has 640x480 running with mpeg 4 on that chip I believe though 02.11.36 # it's a proprietary codec I think though 02.12.18 # the DM320 has an iMX engine also, but there's not really any documentation on it - I think TI expects you to use their library if you mess with it 02.13.37 Quit perrikwp1 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 02.15.26 # by proprietary codec, I mean that its not open source and it's developed by some 3rd party - I believe it's pretty standard in terms of mpeg4 02.16.56 Join linuxguy4 [0] (n=timj@adsl-68-253-211-203.dsl.emhril.ameritech.net) 02.17.10 # we do need some sort of video playback on it. It really looks silly without 02.20.13 # kkurbjun: which DSP chip is it ? 02.20.39 # the lcd can run at 240x320 or 480x640 so it works reasonably well when the LCD is set to QVGA 02.20.52 Join gartral [0] (n=Gartral@adsl-75-33-64-21.dsl.bcvloh.sbcglobal.net) 02.21.24 # funman: it's a c54x 02.21.27 # is "Samsa" a typo, or is it supposed to mean AMS Sansas? 02.21.34 # yes 02.21.47 # gartral: Both 02.22.00 # I was planning on getting everything running at 640x480 and then have mpegplayer run at 320x240 on the m:robe for now 02.22.05 # ok... thanks 02.22.18 # I think that if UDMA is implemented on the HD it won't stutter 02.22.26 # except the 8pixel sysfont is too bloody small at 640x480 :) 02.22.26 # and if the YUV setup is optimized 02.22.34 # :) 02.23.55 Join n00b81 [0] (n=taylor@c-24-91-82-205.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) 02.24.13 Part n00b81 ("Leaving") 02.24.18 # TI advertises that the SOC can decode/encode a 7MP image in 1 second and MPEG4 I+P at 640x480 @ 30fps 02.24.55 # but that's probably all using their specialty hardware and with code that was specifically written around that particular hardware 02.25.49 # funman: more specifically the dsp is a c5409 (or similar to) 02.27.30 # it is quite old, do you have datasheets for it to write decoders? 02.27.52 # funman: we have a compiler and are running code on it 02.28.33 # It's just a C compiler - there are public docs on the instruction set 02.28.58 # and there is communication going on between the arm and the dsp 02.29.16 # there is documentation on the quantization hardware and the idct 02.29.19 # oh ok, neuros uses a proprietary codec, but in fact we could write an open source codec for it 02.29.22 Join Hillshum [0] (n=chatzill@unaffiliated/hillshum) 02.29.25 # the imx is mostly undocumented 02.29.36 # correct 02.29.42 Quit linuxguy3 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 02.30.14 # yeah, an opensource codec would be doable except for the imx - I havn't seen any documentation on that but I havn't looked hard either 02.30.36 # you can use everything else without the imx though 02.40.27 Join Hagen_ [0] (n=Hagen@158.sub-70-217-104.myvzw.com) 02.40.51 # :S 02.41.00 # i have a 5th gen 30 gig ipod 02.41.17 # and i use the rockbox utility 02.41.42 # it says 'could not open ipod' when trying to install the bootloader? D: 02.42.08 # have my ipod formatted for windows so it works in windows and mac 02.42.19 # inside mac right now 02.43.47 # i think there is a bug with rbutil on mac osx, could you try on windows ? 02.44.25 # i dont have the ability to download windows utility 02.44.29 # im on limited bandwidth D: 02.45.53 # any way around this 'bug'? :< 02.45.54 # :( * 02.46.31 # i was looking at some linux forums for similar type issues 02.46.36 # they said it was due to permissions conflict 02.46.38 # are yo running it with root permissions? 02.46.47 # i should 02.46.51 # dunno how to check 02.47.11 # Hagen_: try mounting the ipod again ? (sorry i don't know much) 02.47.15 # http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/10100 02.47.25 # Hagen_: run it with sudo from the terminal ? 02.47.33 Quit funman ("free(random());") 02.48.01 # sudo ~/rbutilqt ? 02.48.10 # kkurbjun: what exactly is the issue with YUV on m:robe? does the YUV hardware want different subsampling, or just different memory layout? 02.48.17 # first time i tried that it asked for password then said it didnt work 02.50.52 # if it's "just" a layout issue, getting the decoder to arrange the pixel data properly shouldn't be *too* hard. and if it needs a specific subsampling that doesn't match up with mpeg1/2, then expanded or truncated IDCT might help. 02.51.26 # also cant autodetect if that matters... 02.52.11 # when you tried to run it with sudo, *sudo* reported an error (and rbutil didn't start), or rbutil reported an error? 02.52.17 Join perrikwp [0] (n=Keith@rrcs-96-10-92-226.se.biz.rr.com) 02.52.34 # said command not recognized 02.52.41 # have rbutil in home directory 02.52.51 # i put in sudo ~/rbutilqt 02.52.58 # and says command not found 02.53.24 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 02.53.34 # it asks for password, i enter correctly.. then says command not found 02.53.44 # 158:~ Hagen$ sudo ~/rbutilqt 02.53.44 # Password: 02.53.44 # sudo: /Users/Hagen/rbutilqt: command not found 02.53.44 DBUG Sent KICK Hagen_ to server 02.53.44 # 158:~ Hagen$ 02.53.44 Kick (#rockbox Hagen_ :No flooding!) by logbot!n=bjst@rockbox/bot/logbot 02.54.07 Join Hagen_ [0] (n=Hagen@158.sub-70-217-104.myvzw.com) 02.54.12 # oops 02.54.15 # don't flood the channel jerk 02.54.27 # :S didnt kno itd put each line by line 02.54.29 # just use a pastebin the bot won't get mad at you 02.55.04 # it says command not found :/ 02.55.06 # :( * 02.55.34 # Hagen_: Where is your rbutilqt file located? 02.55.41 # home 02.56.02 # so i think its Users/Hag3n for the pathway 02.56.20 # kkurbjun: statusbar bug will be fixed in a few min... just doing some cleanup 02.56.37 # Hagen_: As you noted, you told it to look for "/Users/Hagen/rbutilqt", does that exact file actually exist? 02.56.47 # yes 02.56.53 # it asks for password then says command not found 02.56.55 Join midgey|w [0] (i=836b0046@gateway/web/freenode/x-34237de803341a23) 02.57.17 # Hagen_: sudo asks for the password 02.57.22 # right 02.57.26 # Could you go and manually verify that /Users/Hagen/rbutilqt exists? 02.57.33 # yes 02.57.38 # wouldn't that be rbutilqt.app on mac? 02.57.57 # i select go> home> 02.58.01 # and see rbutilqt 02.58.11 # Hagen_: I didn't ask you to just view your home folder. I asked you to browse that exact path. 02.58.20 # midgey|w: still at work?! 02.58.20 # ok, did you try starting it from the command line *without* sudo? :) 02.58.46 # going to get info on the .app 02.58.49 # it says where: field 02.58.59 # JdGordon: yeah, parents are taking me out for dinner, but they're at rainier so i'm sticking around 02.59.09 # righto 02.59.36 # Hagen_: open up a terminal and type "cd ~/ && ls" 03.00.13 # rbutilqt.app appears in list 03.00.34 # where field says /users/hagen 03.00.54 # sudo open ~/rbutilqt.app 03.01.14 # now it opens 03.01.15 # :? 03.01.40 # ive ran that command over 10 times including restarting terminal and trying again 03.01.44 # - .- 03.02.01 Quit timc (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 03.02.42 # Hagen_: previously you weren't doing open or .app were you? 03.02.51 Join n00b81 [0] (n=taylor@c-24-91-82-205.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) 03.03.00 # i tried w/o .app and w/ .app 03.03.21 # still says same error 03.03.25 # i select complete install 03.03.38 # it says for steps of install: 03.03.40 # complete install is weird on mac 03.03.40 # downloading bootloader file 03.03.45 # download finished 03.03.50 # installing rockbox bootloader 03.03.54 # could not open ipod 03.03.56 # point rbutil to where the ipod is mounted 03.04.04 # (make sure it's still mounted) 03.04.06 Join Dozer [0] (n=jackdeet@82-46-18-154.cable.ubr02.bath.blueyonder.co.uk) 03.04.21 # its mounted 03.04.29 # it will probably be something like /Volumes/IPOD 03.04.36 # install the bootloader 03.04.49 # then disconnect the ipod from your mac 03.04.54 # i select apple ipod video (5th gen) 30gb at /volumes/IPOD 03.04.59 # name of ipod is IPOD 03.05.18 # it wont let me install bootloader 03.05.19 Quit saratoga ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 03.05.45 # what version of mac are you running? 03.06.02 # 10.5.63 03.06.05 # 10.5.6*** 03.06.39 # ok, in terminal "cd /Volumes/IPOD && ls" 03.06.53 # what directories are listed? 03.07.10 # hello rockbox. I have a question, sorry couldn't find it in the FAQ. Is there any way to back up an ipod so that it can be restored to its original state including its music? ipod mini 2, windows XP 03.07.14 # calendars, contacts, notes, ipod_control 03.07.25 # i just restored ipod to factory defaults under windows 03.07.27 # actually, ls -lah whould be better 03.07.37 # hmm, ok that looks right 03.07.59 Join lee321987 [0] (n=chatzill@adsl-99-135-15-145.dsl.dytnoh.sbcglobal.net) 03.08.01 # does rbutil give you an error message when you try to install the bootloader 03.08.14 # i go to complete install under quickstart 03.08.20 # and it starts installation 03.08.27 # it downloads bootloader 03.08.27 # Dozer: for what reason? 03.08.34 # then says cannot open ipod 03.08.41 # Hagen_: ohh.. you need too install bootloader and firmware seperatly 03.08.49 # oh? 03.08.58 # i mentioned that a few lines back 03.09.05 # mac doens't handle the unmount correctly 03.09.10 # hm 03.09.13 # yea, its also mentioned in the manuals 03.09.26 # ok so inside the utility i go to installation, i select install the bootloader? 03.09.34 # * gartral nods 03.09.38 # cuz that says could not open ipod too 03.09.40 # 'Screendump' in the Debug menu -- does it copy the screen contents to an image file? How do I do it (once it's enabled)? 03.09.54 # lee321987: install a usb cable 03.09.57 # insert* 03.10.04 # lee321987: its automatic, it grabs a screenshot every second 03.10.09 # gartral: wrong 03.10.23 # but I must be connected to the computer? 03.10.48 # should i put ipod in disk mode? 03.11.09 # Hagen_: you could try that 03.11.09 Join toffe82 [0] (n=chatzill@adsl-99-146-81-190.dsl.frs2ca.sbcglobal.net) 03.11.18 # not sure why it would change anything 03.11.27 Part Dozer 03.11.36 # i installed on my 4g and mini2g no problem with rbutil 03.11.45 Join Dozer [0] (n=jackdeet@82-46-18-154.cable.ubr02.bath.blueyonder.co.uk) 03.11.47 Part Dozer 03.12.25 # lee321987: When you go into the Screendump entry in the Debug menu, the normal USB functions are stopped, and inserting a cable will instead take a screenshot 03.14.08 # yeah unmount ipod (not in disk mode yet) and had everything closed out 03.14.14 # reopened utility inside terminal 03.14.25 # after ipod 5th gen 30 gig mounted again 03.14.30 # sudo opened utility 03.14.40 # went to installation, install bootloader 03.14.49 # and get same error, 'could not open ipod' 03.14.50 # :( 03.16.43 # Hagen_: try ipodpatcher... there *shouldnt* be a difference, but Mac is strange >.> 03.17.01 # cleared cache and tried installing after restarting utility and same error :/ 03.17.02 # :( * 03.17.14 # what all does ipodcatcher do? 03.17.18 # ive heard vaguely of it 03.17.22 Quit SUSaiyan (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 03.18.13 # link? 03.18.19 # cant find in google yet :S 03.18.40 # Hagen_: have you tried auto detect within rbutil? 03.18.52 # it fails 03.19.28 # hmm 03.19.38 # open disk utility 03.19.49 # alright 03.20.47 Join Strife89 [0] (n=Michael@adsl-154-19-202.mcn.bellsouth.net) 03.21.16 # What volumes are listed in the left panel? 03.21.58 # hdd and ipod and cd and .dmg of utility 03.22.38 # right click on the ipod and get the properties 03.22.48 # i think you're looking for mount point or something similar 03.24.37 # hm 03.24.49 # says disk identifier: disk2 03.24.56 # writable: yes 03.25.06 # Disk Number 2 03.25.11 # Partition Number: 0 03.25.22 # please dont paste the whole thing 03.25.26 Quit pixelma (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 03.25.26 Quit amiconn (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 03.25.30 # i typed, sorry 03.25.35 # use pastebin or a similar service instead 03.25.40 # theres nothing in there that says mount 03.25.44 # and idk what pastebin is 03.25.47 Quit lee321987 ("ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.0.11/2009060215]") 03.26.05 Join lee321987 [0] (n=chatzill@adsl-99-135-15-145.dsl.dytnoh.sbcglobal.net) 03.26.11 # Hagen_: hagen.pastebin.com 03.26.13 Quit lee321987 (Client Quit) 03.26.20 # it's a service to host text. we request people use it here to avoid posting a bunch of lines in a row 03.26.46 # it helps keep the logs clean and easier to read 03.26.47 # makes sense 03.26.52 # yeah :) 03.27.05 # do you see any reference to /Volumes ? 03.27.39 # no 03.28.29 # hmm, i thought it would be in there 03.28.30 # ah 03.28.34 # mount point /volumes/ipod 03.28.45 # ok, good 03.29.19 # sometimes mac wont delete a mount point on removal and the next time it will mount at /volumes/ipod 1/ 03.29.30 # hm 03.29.47 Join lee321987 [0] (n=chatzill@adsl-99-135-15-145.dsl.dytnoh.sbcglobal.net) 03.29.54 # so what to do now? 03.30.29 # you could try launching rbutil a different way 03.30.38 # how? 03.30.39 # i'm not sure i remember it 03.31.03 Quit dfkt ("-= SysReset 2.53=- Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn.") 03.31.05 # sudo open ~/rbutilqt.app/Resources/Mac OS/rbutil 03.31.11 # that's almost surely wrong 03.31.16 # lol 03.31.36 # Is it normal for the battery to be at 68%, then ten minutes later be at 63%, then 10 minutes later be back at 66% 03.32.21 # yeah pathway didnt work 03.32.22 # lee321987: the battery rating on a software codec target is semi-accurate at best 03.33.10 # Hagen_: if i had my mac in front of me i could check but i'm currently at work 03.33.23 # you may have to resort to ipodpatcher like was suggested earlier 03.33.46 # you could unplug the ipod boot into disk mode and replug it in 03.33.53 # and hope for the best with rbutil 03.33.58 # cant find ipodpatcher 03.34.04 # and what does it do? 03.34.38 # it's a way to install the bootloader through the terminal 03.35.23 Part wincent ("Kopete 0.12.7 : http://kopete.kde.org") 03.35.28 # ok 03.35.38 # i think i found a link for ipodpatcher.exe from rockbox website 03.35.53 # can you right click on rbutilqt.app and click show contents? 03.35.54 # well .dmg for my mac 03.35.59 # yeah 03.36.24 Quit dmb_ (Client Quit) 03.37.09 # no, i mean the .app file. it should have folders such as Resources and Mac OS 03.37.20 # correct 03.37.29 # go into Resources 03.37.41 # i have rbutilqt.icns 03.38.05 # anything else? 03.38.10 # no :( 03.38.22 Join dmb [0] (n=Dmb@unaffiliated/dmb) 03.38.41 # i got ipod patcher 03.38.45 # go back up to the Mac OS folder instead 03.38.52 # ipodpatcher.exe? 03.38.53 # says successfully installed bootloader 03.38.55 # .dmg 03.38.57 # yeah 03.39.02 # well then hurray 03.39.06 # :D 03.39.11 # now bootloader is installed? 03.39.22 # it should be 03.39.27 # how do i get full 'complete install' using utility now that bootloader is installed 03.39.51 # well, complete will try to install the bootloader again 03.39.57 # right 03.40.01 # i think full install is what you want now 03.40.03 # how do i get the same effect as that 03.40.39 # under the installation tab i think 03.40.48 # ok i have bootloader and install rockbox 03.40.51 Join timc [0] (n=aoeu@c-68-45-191-214.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) 03.40.57 # guess that means install rockbox 03.41.10 # but what all does that install? any ideas? 03.41.50 # it just downloads rockbox.zip (either current or release) and unzips it 03.41.57 # mk 03.42.12 # you'll want the font pack for sure 03.42.24 # possibly doom and some themes 03.42.39 # all manual then? 03.42.44 # can they be done thru the utility 03.43.20 # yep, they should all work 03.43.32 # should being the key word 03.45.17 # mk 03.45.24 # will try this :) 03.45.34 Quit lee321987 ("ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.0.11/2009060215]") 03.46.38 Join lee321987 [0] (n=chatzill@adsl-99-135-15-145.dsl.dytnoh.sbcglobal.net) 03.46.57 Quit lee321987 (Client Quit) 03.47.48 Join Telazorn [0] (n=Miranda@adsl-76-241-88-157.dsl.bcvloh.sbcglobal.net) 03.51.13 # dose anone here know a good place to get used iPod mini gen1 parts other then eBay? 03.52.22 # amazon maybe? 03.54.33 # thanks a ton guys :) 03.54.35 # have a good night 03.54.40 Quit Hagen_ () 03.55.43 # Telazorn: probably ebay or craigslist are your only options or the potential ipod repair sites that seem to pop up all over the internet 03.56.16 # best the discussion is better suited for #rockbox-community so please join there if you wish to talk about it further 03.56.49 # kk sorry thank you 03.57.09 Quit gartral ("Why must we be chicken or sheep when we have the blood of the Fox, Wolf?") 03.57.31 Quit Telazorn ("Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org") 03.57.35 Join Telazorn [0] (n=Miranda@adsl-76-241-88-157.dsl.bcvloh.sbcglobal.net) 03.58.27 Quit Hillshum ("ChatZilla 0.9.83 [Firefox 3.0.3/2008092417]") 03.58.56 Nick beta_ is now known as Beta2K (n=beta@d24-36-78-223.home1.cgocable.net) 04.09.36 Quit midgey|w ("Page closed") 04.18.18 Join Shaid [0] (n=adam@dsl-202-45-112-116-static.VIC.netspace.net.au) 04.21.39 Nick linuxguy4 is now known as linuxguy3 (n=timj@adsl-68-253-211-203.dsl.emhril.ameritech.net) 04.22.47 Quit Strife89 ("Bed.") 04.35.52 Join HellDragon [0] (i=jd@modemcable178.248-201-24.mc.videotron.ca) 04.46.03 Quit dmb (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 04.48.12 Join dmb [0] (n=Dmb@unaffiliated/dmb) 04.53.28 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 04.57.55 Quit HBK (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 04.58.13 Join HBK [0] (n=hbk@pool-71-96-74-73.dfw.dsl-w.verizon.net) 05.03.17 Part toffe82 05.09.42 Join AndyI [0] (i=AndyI@212.14.205.32) 05.23.30 Quit AndyIL (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 05.24.12 # Unhelpful: it is just looking for a different memory layout 05.25.59 # I think it is Y1 Cr0 Y0 Cb0 for a 32 bit word 05.26.03 # each is 8 bits 05.27.01 # New commit by 03lowlight (r21698): Philips SA9200: fix the buttons to work with flip screen mode (does anyone use this?). Change to conventional BUTTON_LEFT/BUTTON_RIGHT names and flip ... 05.27.48 Join LambdaCalculus37 [0] (n=rmenes@rockbox/staff/LambdaCalculus37) 05.28.34 Quit fdinel ("Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org") 05.29.56 Quit LambdaCalculus37 (Client Quit) 05.52.51 Quit Horscht ("Verlassend") 05.55.31 Quit n00b81 ("Leaving") 05.58.20 Join _lifeless [0] (n=lifeless@188.16.117.3) 06.08.01 Join evilnick_home1 [0] (n=evilnick@pool-173-52-144-203.nycmny.east.verizon.net) 06.23.05 # New commit by 03lowlight (r21699): Change the button definitions for the SA9200 sim too 06.25.54 Quit evilnick_home (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 06.27.33 Join linuxguy4 [0] (n=timj@adsl-68-253-212-153.dsl.emhril.ameritech.net) 06.38.41 Join rvvs89 [0] (n=ivo@bright-snat.ucc.asn.au) 06.39.08 Quit linuxguy3 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 06.43.06 Join gartral [0] (n=Gartral@adsl-75-33-64-21.dsl.bcvloh.sbcglobal.net) 06.44.10 Join __lifeless [0] (n=lifeless@188.16.103.153) 06.44.11 # ok pre rockboxing problem, I have a an E250 with a bad LCD controller.. how do I get it to switch to MSC mode when I can't see the OFW's main menu? 06.45.39 Join mc2739 [0] (n=mc2739@cpe-67-10-234-29.satx.res.rr.com) 06.45.51 # gartral: is it a v1? 06.46.12 # mc2739: yes, im rather certain 06.46.26 # do you have a working v1? 06.46.30 Join ender` [0] (i=krneki@foo.eternallybored.org) 06.46.51 # mc2739: yes I do. I have my main one that works and is running Rockbox fine 06.47.47 # you can swap the memory board from the broken to the working, install rockbox, and then swap it back 06.48.44 Quit _lifeless (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 06.48.50 # mc2739: no I cant, I don't have the tools 06.48.58 # that mostly always works. i've had a few memory boards that only worked in particular main boards. 06.49.11 # until i got really creative with the unbrick tools 06.49.43 # don't we have instructions for blind installation on the e200 series? or am i thinking of some other device 06.50.24 # I think only if rockbox is already installed 06.50.31 # sorry, that's irivers 06.51.32 # gartral: unfortunately i don't think there's any way to know what menu you're viewing in the sansa OF without looking at it 06.53.00 # I know my working one's OFW defaults to the Settings screen on startup.. 06.53.31 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 06.54.11 # but the one that has the bad screen wont show its drive on plugin (on my Linux box) and refuses to auto-switch 06.54.41 # hmm 06.54.49 # do you know what version of the OF it's using? 06.55.07 # I think the OF defaults to the icon it was on when you turn it off 06.55.16 # absolutly no idea.. I picked it up for a doller off a kid 06.55.36 # ahh 06.55.44 # mc2739: that's what I 06.55.46 # I'm thinking 06.56.28 # if you have a windows machine handy, you can use the sansa updater to get it to the final 1.x version, which should work, but yeah - skeptical whether this will actually do what you need it to do 06.57.36 # no, all I have are Linux and Mac systems now 06.58.32 # I have another e250 with a truly destroyed LCD and I was able to Rockbox it 06.58.42 Join desowin [0] (n=desowin@atheme/member/desowin) 06.59.11 # it is easy, if it is already in msc mode 06.59.21 # actually, fiddling with my e250v1, i think it may actually boot to the settings menu 07.00.26 # in that case, the key sequence would be center, 11 clicks clockwise, right, center, one click counter-clockwise, then center again 07.00.40 # but you could have figured that out yourself, which makes me wonder why you're asking 07.01.30 # er, where i said "right, center" i meant either/or 07.01.56 Join lee321987 [0] (n=chatzill@99.135.15.145) 07.02.19 Join relentless [0] (n=relentle@adsl-75-10-151-248.dsl.bcvloh.sbcglobal.net) 07.02.54 # you may want to wait a minute or two after turning it on to let it finish scanning the filesystem if it needs to 07.03.26 # you can also use up and down keys instead of the scroll wheel - that may be more accurate 07.03.34 # true 07.04.24 Part perrikwp 07.04.25 Quit lee321987 (Client Quit) 07.04.33 # How do I view images? I put them on my ipod but they dont show up in the folder I put them in 07.05.03 # relentless: what type of image? 07.05.10 # jpg 07.05.18 # I converted a pdf to jpg 07.05.22 # make sure "show files" is set to "supported" or "all" 07.05.27 # wasn't there a way to "spoof" it into think MTP mode wont work, and have it auto-switch? 07.05.41 # Its set to all 07.06.35 # gartral: you mean this in the wiki - Use this method if you're running one of the firmwares that doesn't support USB mode selection. Boot into the OF with it connected to computer and let it be recognized as an MTP device. Next, engage the hold switch and press (and hold) the rewind button, disconnect from computer, and wait until the computer signals the MTP device has been removed. Now reconnect to the computer and it will be detected as an MSC d 07.08.10 # Thank you I got it working, I forgot to eject the ipod and it deleted the file 07.08.12 # s 07.08.35 # oops 07.08.59 # I now have bus schedules on my ipod :D 07.09.05 # reconnect while hlding rewind? 07.09.33 # gartral: what i pasted is all i know. I think you don't have to hold it while plugging it back in, but i don't know 07.11.39 # those instructions are for the c200 though, so maybe they don't apply 07.13.44 # gartral: question - how do you know that it's just the lcd controller that's toast? 07.14.42 # nothing but a white screen is displayed 07.14.52 # also, "tools" where an e200 is concerned == one #0 philips head screwdriver 07.15.12 # gartral: ok 07.15.57 # but the memory module seems to be superglued down on both units 07.16.34 # gartral: I believe it is just double sided tape 07.16.42 # I've gone though the parts of 8 or 9 e200's and I've never seen that - you're saying the memory module won't pop off the board? 07.16.59 # yeah, there are a few points of double-sided mounting tape 07.33.59 Join amiconn [50] (n=jens@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 07.33.59 Join pixelma [50] (n=pixelma@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 07.37.51 Quit mc2739 ("ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.0.11/2009060215]") 07.48.10 Quit relentless ("Leaving") 08.10.44 Join animatorgeek [0] (n=4b53ec3e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-84704b5696227c9b) 08.11.07 # Can anyone tell me what the current state is of the h1xx bootloader in SVN? 08.12.30 # Untested. 08.12.31 # Why? 08.12.35 # I'm debating whether to test a fix I made. I'm 99.9% sure it won't brick my player (my fix that is), but I don't know how stable the loader is in SVN. 08.12.56 # So it sounds like I probably shouldn't 08.12.58 # Fix for what? 08.13.26 # The problem of disconnecting USB and getting an ATA -80 error on a CFModded h1xx 08.14.34 # As far as I can tell it's the one extant problem in 7pre4 (at least as far as CFMod goes) 08.14.46 # Why not patch against the revision used to make that? 08.15.32 # what determines whether a track's length is listed in the database browser? 08.15.47 # Oh, that's a good idea. Thanks! 08.16.50 # encoder used? presence of certain tags? tags added by the encoder used? 08.17.06 # So then that makes me wonder: what's the possibility of coming out with an official v7 bootloader? Does that require Linus to do a bunch of testing? Is he the only one with the de-bricking hardware? 08.18.22 # And how can I figure out which rev was used for 7pre4? 08.20.13 Join SUSaiyan [0] (n=SUSaiyan@cc84863-b.zwoll1.ov.home.nl) 08.22.58 # If it's going to be working with flashing Rockbox it needs a higher degree or reliability than it did before 08.23.06 # Previously, we just had to be absolutely certain you can always dual boot 08.23.45 # I don't know how you'd find out the revision of 7pre4. Ask whoever compiled it if it's not listed in the boot screen. 08.26.43 # hoorah! I figured out how to mark possibilities in sudoku on the Fuze! 08.26.45 # the 7pre4 bootloader was compiled on date 2008-02-09. So you should look svn just before and after that for any bootloader commits and compile it including any of those commits to be sure it will work 08.27.15 # * Dhraakellian still thinks it's a tad clunky, but now he can at least use it 08.27.42 # animatorgeek: what kind of fix did you make to the BL? 08.28.09 # kay, thanks 08.28.34 # Slasheri: I just added one line to the end of the USB mode conditional block 08.28.47 # See FS#9642 (Bootloader USB Diskmode fails to exit gracefully on CFModded H100) 08.29.36 Join Overand [0] (i=overand@crappy.domain.name) 08.29.45 # ah, i will see that. I just thought if that's general change, maybe it should be included in the final v7. Or 7pre5 08.29.46 # It was just flowing right into the load-from-disk section without first checking if it should load from ROM or RAM 08.29.51 # Are .wps files from older releases incompatible with 3.3? 08.30.45 # I'm having a problem with "Kelp" - it seems to be displaying some sort of default display. 08.30.52 # I would hope that this problem will be fixed in 7pre5 or 7. It certainly seems like a pretty simple problem. 08.31.20 # animatorgeek: btw, if you are going to flash your modified bootloader using iriver_flash plugin (that's the ~50 KiB rockbox.iriver file in your bootloader build directory), you have to add a new crc32 checksum to the iriver_flash.c or disable the checksum check. Otherwise the plugin will refuse to flash your bootloader 08.31.21 # I think were were some changes to the wps markup language along the way, but I'm not sure when that occurred. 08.31.44 # animatorgeek: I'm not sure the last time I actually tried to use "kelp" - it may have been up to a year or two. 08.32.27 # * Dhraakellian wonders what the best keymap for sudoku on the fuze would be 08.32.28 # I would guess things have changed since then. I know the newer wps screens look a lot more fancy on my h120. 08.32.54 # Seems the same, on my iPod 5G/60 08.33.02 # But I really liked this old one, heh. 08.33.05 Part safetydan ("Leaving.") 08.33.14 # * Overand crotchety and old 08.33.55 # animatorgeek: ah, using bootloader diskmode, it's intentional that the bootloader will load from disk then 08.34.22 # because the BL disk mode is not intended to be used regularly, mainly for updating rockbox 08.35.00 # Slasheri: I'm not sure what I have to do to generate a checksum. Is it a checksum for the bootloader image, and I add that value to an array in iriver_flash.c and recompile the plugin? 08.35.33 # * amiconn almost almost always uses bootloader usb mode on targets which power on on plugin and have that mode 08.35.34 # animatorgeek: correct, i will upload the utility to generate that checksum. Just a moment 08.35.36 Quit gartral ("Why must we be chicken or sheep when we have the blood of the Fox, Wolf?") 08.36.28 # Overand: The WPS language has changed, but not particularly recently 08.36.42 # All WPSes can be fixed though with a little reading of the CustomWPS page and a bit of editing in a text editor 08.36.48 # Is the BL disk mode less stable? As a user, it comes as a great surprise that i'm not "supposed" to use that feature. I find it useful, and I'm not sure why it would automatically boot from disk after exiting it 08.37.03 # Is it in case you update the firmware? 08.37.42 # There shouldn't be any difference in stability 08.37.42 # I suppose that would make sense, but then why not just go to the boot menu (if ROM and/or RAM images are available)? 08.37.43 # Llorean: I'm looking into it 08.37.52 # (for anyone interested - the originalk version of the old theme - http://web.archive.org/web/20070325011007/www.rockbox.org/twiki/pub/Main/WpsIpod5g/kelp.png ) 08.37.55 # animatorgeek: http://pastebin.com/m7cc629a6 08.38.01 # animatorgeek: that's it, the update_crc.c 08.38.13 # I'm using it very often just because it's much more convenient to just plug in the device and have it connect 08.38.16 # it will read rockbox.iriver from your current working directory 08.38.50 # animatorgeek: it's not less stable, it's just preferred to use the rockbox usb disk mode 08.39.34 # animatorgeek: but i will use the BL disk mode everytime i wan't to update rockbox. Because it will always override loading from ram/rom and just loads the newest copy from disk :) 08.40.04 # it's also a safety feature if the menu would fail to operate for some reason 08.40.05 # I'm with amiconn on this one. I use it all the time because it's convenient to plug it in and _then_ turn on the player. 08.40.34 # Except that I don't do that ever since I installed my CFMod. 08.41.01 # so i don't think that should be changed for the final BL. The disk is spinning anyway at this point so there is little performance penalty 08.41.18 # I guess my point is that from a user's perspective it's counterintuitive. 08.41.55 # There's a penalty if you've got the CFMod. That makes me wonder how many people have done this mod.... 08.42.17 # hmm, there is a penalty? 08.42.42 # Yes. It won't boot. it requires a hard reset 08.42.49 # ATA -80 08.42.57 # ah, well that's a bug, not a penalty :) 08.43.13 # and of course that should be fixed 08.43.15 # Although perhaps that's the real problem: the bootloader doesn't know how to boot from a CF card. 08.43.26 # Managed to find a new version. 08.43.27 # Woo!@ 08.43.32 # Right you are. 08.43.33 # I would expect a bootloader compiled from current svn to not have this bug 08.43.40 # ouch, that really must be fixed then 08.44.20 # Iirc all the CF related fixes went in after our iriver bootloaders (including 7pre4) were compiled 08.44.27 # So I guess that really the fix I submitted for FS#9642 is a bandaid on to pof the larger problem. Still, it would be nice (from my perspective) to be able to boot from USB BL mode. 08.44.37 Join flydutch [0] (n=flydutch@host87-202-dynamic.15-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) 08.45.07 # Oh, so the boot-from-CF problem is likely to be fixed already? 08.45.11 # amiconn: well, that could be tested with some extreme care. Just be sure you have flashed the rockbox rom image before trying that. So there is some possibility that the reset cookie will kick in if the bootloader should crash 08.45.42 # * amiconn won't touch iriver flashing before the flash bootloader becomes official 08.46.04 # I'm running plain v6 bootloader 08.46.27 # amiconn: v6 won't work with CFMod. 7pre4 is required. 08.46.48 # * animatorgeek doesn't remember why 08.47.15 # I don't have my iriver cf modded, and there is no reason to 08.47.45 # Well, unless affordable CFs become larger than my hdd, which is the rare MK8007GAH 08.47.58 # Ah, you're a lucky one. 08.48.26 # amiconn: and you don't like much faster boot-up times and saving battery with dircache/database? 08.48.33 # I have an h120, so tall drives won't work for me. But more than that, I was eager to eliminate hard drive noise 08.49.10 # The internal mic is actually decent quality for recording rehearsals and stuff like that, once you get rid of the hard drive. 08.50.54 # Slasheri: are you actively developing the bootloaders? Is there actualy a v7 release on the horizon? 08.52.05 # animatorgeek: not actively, but i would consider the v7pre4 the most stable h1xx bootloader so far 08.53.05 # animatorgeek: i might do a new release however, if there is reason to. Such as fixing that CF issue :) But i should upgrade my player to CF first to be able to test. 08.53.32 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 08.54.37 # Slasheri: I looked back at an old IRC log from August or something and some people were pushing to fix that for 3.0 but it wasn't a high priority since it's just for modded players. 08.55.18 # ah 08.55.27 Join bmbl [0] (n=Miranda@unaffiliated/bmbl) 08.55.37 # Well, I can attest that the CF mod is super easy and not dangerous at all. The RTC mod caused me WAY more heartache 08.55.51 # * amiconn would rather take the risk of doing flashing experiments on his H340 than risking his H180 with an unofficial bootloader, even if this is already tested on a few devices 08.55.53 # well, i really need to get some CF. I don't think i could do that without 08.56.00 # But needless to say it's a priority for me :) 08.56.39 Join Rob2223 [0] (n=Miranda@p4FDCC764.dip.t-dialin.net) 08.57.12 # I can understand your hesitance. I'm pretty confident in 7pre4, though. I haven't seen any mention of it causing problems. 08.57.26 # amiconn: it's pretty well tested by many people. i think the risk using the OF firmware to flash something has order of magnitude greater risks than using our flashing procedure (which takes less than a second to flash/verify the BL) 08.57.27 # I've got a dodgey 4gb CF card i can send out if its needed? 08.57.46 # dodgy ? 08.57.48 # its got some back blocks 08.59.16 # Oh, and you can get the adapter from Hong Kong for $2.50 shipped to the US (don't know how they make any money on that). Not sure what they'd charge to Finland, but I know there are lots of sources for that kind of thing. 08.59.22 # I can also lend my 32GB CF and adaptor if thats needed... 09.00.29 # Slasheri: Sure that's faster - the bootloader is much smaller than the OF 09.01.01 # * amiconn flashed all his archoses, even though the other of his two favourite targets is one of these 09.01.09 # amiconn: and the time is one of the most critical points doing the flashing. Because if it would fail, it would fail during flashing the image 09.01.40 # amiconn: even then, you could probably try to reflash or keep your player running if the verify didn't succeed (but that has never happened so far) 09.01.51 # But for the archoses there's a recovery procedure almost everyone with a bit of soldering experience and cheap adapter hardware can perform - unlike the coldfires 09.02.48 # after the BL is ok, in practice there should be no risk flashing the ram/rom image 09.03.17 # I think my H140 is still running 7pre3 - what did pre4 bring ? 09.04.07 # GodEater: i don't remember excactly but at least there are few improvements to the menu system and remote control 09.04.24 # heh, I have very little idea where my remote even is 09.04.43 # =) 09.05.03 # in a crate in the attic I think 09.05.15 Join ender [0] (i=krneki@foo.eternallybored.org) 09.06.10 # does anyone know if the new 1.8" SSD drives are straight swaps into a DAP ? 09.06.23 # Interesting question. 09.06.28 # amiconn: and btw, flashing the BL doesn't remove OF from flash. So after doing that, you could still verify everything is working. Prior that point the BL is not touched by any other flash operations 09.06.34 # I'm kind of surprised it's been so long since an update to the BL 09.06.37 # ah, probably not, they appear to be SATA 09.06.47 # animatorgeek: why? Very little changes in them 09.06.49 # Man, I'd love a DAP with more than 60 gigs of storage, and an interface that's marginally better than what I have on my iPod. 09.06.54 # (I really miss my Rio Karma) 09.07.11 # That thing was the only player with a stock OS that didn't seem to suck - at least that I've used. 09.07.13 # animatorgeek: unless there is a good reason, bootloaders are not updated 09.07.34 # I think I've seen PATA solid state drives on Amazon, but I don't remember if they were 1.8" 09.08.16 # But even then, you'd need a LIF->40-pin adapter 09.08.49 # no one makes the 40-pin drives any more, I don't think 09.09.00 # animatorgeek: that would depend on which DAP you're going to put it in 09.09.10 # that adaptor would do me no good in my ipod ;) 09.09.13 # Oh, good point. 09.09.16 # The 1.8" drives are either 50pin or ZIF 09.09.31 # I'm all h1x0 oriented in all my DAP dealings 09.09.55 # There are other configurations, but these are rare. Some new DAPs also use CE-ATA, but that's a yet different protocol 09.10.35 # (basically ATA-over-MMC) 09.11.26 # animatorgeek: Yeah, and the H1x0 uses 50-pin 09.12.01 # Oh, my mistake (40 vs 50 pin) 09.13.51 # * Dhraakellian thinks he has an alternate sudoku keymap for the fuze figured out 09.14.14 Quit Rob2222 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 09.14.46 # I gotta go. Thanks for all the info. I guess I won't be messing with the bootloader after all. I hereby register my vote for coming out with a new version that fixes the CFMod boot-from-disk problem... 09.14.54 Join stripwax [0] (n=Miranda@87-194-34-169.bethere.co.uk) 09.15.24 # how sweet, he thinks we're a democracy! 09.16.00 # I just mean to encourage anyone who might be considering such a thing. 09.16.04 # :) 09.16.10 # ;) 09.16.29 # Anyway, g'nite (or morning as the case may be) 09.17.16 Quit animatorgeek ("CGI:IRC") 09.19.44 Join Thundercloud [0] (i=thunderc@persistence.flat.devzero.co.uk) 09.19.46 Quit ender` (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 09.33.24 Join petur [50] (n=petur@rockbox/developer/petur) 09.33.54 Quit Shaid ("*toink*") 09.41.50 Part Llorean 09.42.05 Join efyx_ [0] (n=efyx@lap34-1-82-224-140-171.fbx.proxad.net) 09.43.07 Quit BHSPitMonkey (Remote closed the connection) 09.43.11 Join _lifeless [0] (n=lifeless@188.16.103.153) 09.47.44 Quit Thundercloud (Remote closed the connection) 09.51.13 Join Grahack [0] (n=chri@stc92-1-82-227-106-100.fbx.proxad.net) 09.51.33 Join boobaloo [0] (n=boobaloo@84.42.45.44) 09.53.24 Quit Dhraakellian (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 09.54.14 Join Dhraakellian [0] (n=ntryon@cpe-72-226-197-191.rochester.res.rr.com) 09.58.09 Quit drakonik (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 09.58.47 Quit __lifeless (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 10.05.15 Join daurn [0] (n=daurnima@unaffiliated/daurnimator) 10.05.19 # hi all 10.08.12 Join Llorean [0] (n=DarkkOne@adsl-99-182-52-92.dsl.hstntx.sbcglobal.net) 10.12.09 # daurn: Hi (and hi all), I'm planning to use your lua id3 code to write a basictageditor for rockbox. Do you think of any problem I could encounter ? 10.12.39 # Grahack, not really 10.12.55 # Grahack, though you could use my whole tagging library, and help oout with it too, rather than just id3 10.12.55 # great 10.12.59 Join ReKleSS [0] (n=ReKleSS@d58-110-100-89.mas6.nsw.optusnet.com.au) 10.13.50 # oh yes, I used the id3 word because I wanted to be crystal clear (and I don't know of other flavour) 10.14.21 # there are "vorbis comments" and "Ape tags" as well I think =/ 10.14.31 # Grahack, well I currently also have wavpack read/write and flac reading 10.14.51 # Grahack, I still need flac writing and anything to do with ogg 10.21.53 # GodEater: Plus mp4, ASF and (soon) RealMedia... 10.26.43 # hello all, please tell me - are there any plans to port RockBox on the RockChip family devices (a legion of Asia mp3/mp4 players)? 10.27.45 # Grahack, do you know how to use my libs? 10.29.43 # boobaloo: I don't think anyone is working on a rockchip port 10.30.01 # markun: thanks for the info 10.30.20 # boobaloo: are you interested on working on it yourself? 10.31.26 # markun: i'm afraid my programming skills are not enough for that effort 10.33.08 # ports happen when someone just starts working on it, it's not really planned 10.33.27 # markun: also SDK is hard to get. it's possible, but hard. 10.33.52 # markun: yeah, I'm understand. so noone was start that. ok 10.34.15 Join stripwax5443 [0] (n=Miranda@87-194-34-169.bethere.co.uk) 10.35.21 # boobaloo: earlier rockchip cpu's were MIPS based, right? and newer are ARM I guess. 10.37.40 # markun: yes, think so, that because I ask. 10.38.24 # daurn: not yet, I have to dive into it, but if you've got a tutorial for me that would be great, and I'd start now 10.38.55 # Grahack, I asumme you will start on pc first? 10.39.54 # daurn: yes 10.42.53 # daurn: maybe it's time to start a wiki page on http://code.google.com/p/lomp/w/list :) 10.43.05 Join pabs [0] (n=pabs@xor.pablotron.org) 10.49.10 Quit stripwax (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 10.53.08 # Grahack, I posted instructions on irc, did you get them (in lua a couple days ago) 10.53.35 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 10.54.52 # arf no, gonna look for them... 11.02.39 # Grahack, I just posted the relevant lines in #lua, try them out 11.04.53 Nick fxb__ is now known as fxb (n=felixbru@h1252615.stratoserver.net) 11.08.06 Quit stripwax5443 ("http://miranda-im.org") 11.12.00 # I'm trying to recover my H120's flash via the BDM 11.12.16 # is there something smaller than 8k I can write that will make it possible to recover the full bootloader? 11.32.44 Quit barrywardell () 11.36.20 Join robin0800 [0] (n=robin080@cpc3-brig8-0-0-cust436.brig.cable.ntl.com) 11.36.33 # ReKleSS: LinusN is our master BDM'er but he's not around atm 11.37.49 # I emailed him about this a little while ago, but haven't heard back 11.40.41 # I'd suggest emailing the dev list 11.41.05 # ok 11.49.35 Join at0m|c [0] (n=at0m@94-225-90-23.access.telenet.be) 11.50.55 Join dfkt [0] (i=dfkt@unaffiliated/dfkt) 11.54.27 Quit at0m (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 11.54.53 Nick at0m|c is now known as at0m (n=at0m@94-225-90-23.access.telenet.be) 12.03.58 Quit bittin__ (K-lined) 12.12.23 Join einhirn [0] (n=Miranda@bsod.rz.tu-clausthal.de) 12.17.50 # GodEater: IIRC 7pre4 lets you turn on via the remote (amongst other things). i had a problem with earlier versions that it'd always so hold was on and switch off even when it wasn't 12.19.03 # ah - yes that would be annoying 12.19.39 # I *think* it was 7pre4 that fixed that, but it was an age of the world ago 12.19.56 # yeah, I don't remember at all when I put 7pre3 on mine! 12.20.18 # back in the stone age I think 12.21.08 Join wincent [0] (n=wincent@host-091-097-067-213.ewe-ip-backbone.de) 12.30.14 # is there anything like iconv I can use in rockbox? 12.30.31 # ==> I need to convert between UTF16, UTF8 and ascii. 12.30.51 # utf8_encode and utf8_decode convert between unicode codepoints and utf8 12.32.07 # er, except no underscores. :) 12.35.51 # daurn: and there is the iso_decode function 12.36.01 # * GodEater notices his shiny new buildclient is busy doing stuff 12.37.06 # daurn: firmware/common/unicode.c 12.45.17 # GodEater: the nano2g mentions it might not run custom code, then mentions how custom code runs to extract the ram... 12.45.23 # nano2g wiki page 12.45.36 # * GodEater will fix 12.46.21 # I struck that text out 12.46.33 # * GodEater guesses that didn't render well in Bagder's browser 12.46.51 # "Currently it's still uncertain whether the information gained here can be used to run custom code on the Nano 2G" is not stuck out 12.46.54 # struck 12.47.06 # ah I see 12.47.37 # http://squisch.net/rockbox/notesexploit/ could also be referenced I guess 12.47.49 # is that wording better ? 12.48.04 # yes 12.49.07 Join mcuelenaere [0] (n=mcuelena@78-21-191-122.access.telenet.be) 12.49.14 # and link added to scorche's copy of the exploit. 12.51.32 # Lamda managed to get *his* 2G into DFU mode the other day without trashing the firmware partition, so those instructions might need modifying 12.51.42 # although I absolutely cannot do that on the 2G I have to play with 12.51.56 # and I don't want to trash the firmware parititon, since Mrs GodEater will beat me. 12.53.38 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 12.54.38 # show of hands please. Who owns or has access to a Nano 2G ? 12.55.09 # (hand) 12.55.57 # awesome. Would you care to try the DFU mode procedure on it please (without writing crap all over your firmware partition), and see if you can get it to work ? 12.56.49 # sorry, I wasn't following the discussion, what's the procedure? 12.57.07 # it's on the http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IPodNano2GPort page 12.57.12 # just ignore steps 2 and 3 12.58.35 # so you also don't need a PC running linux? since I'm not using dd 12.59.03 # nope, you don't need a PC running linux. 12.59.33 # although there is a dd for windows ;) 13.02.43 # I can't believe there are so few of us have one of these. 13.02.50 # I could have sworn linuxstb had one too. 13.03.09 # I tried several times, but it's not in DFU mode 13.03.20 # no I couldn't do it either 13.03.28 # maybe there's some special timing of the keypresses that you need? 13.03.30 # did you make sure it was connected via usb the second time you did the reset ? 13.03.40 # yeah it was connected the second time 13.03.59 # what version of firmware is on it? 13.04.15 # I've tried with it running 1.1.2 and 1.1.3 13.04.35 Quit boobaloo (Remote closed the connection) 13.04.38 # 1.1.1 13.05.13 Join boobaloo [0] (n=boobaloo@84.42.45.44) 13.06.53 # well thanks for trying :) 13.07.41 Quit boobaloo (Remote closed the connection) 13.08.18 Join boobaloo [0] (n=boobaloo@84.42.45.44) 13.11.51 Join n1s [0] (n=n1s@rockbox/developer/n1s) 13.27.00 Quit Strath ("Leaving") 13.57.21 Quit boobaloo (Remote closed the connection) 13.58.22 Join boobaloo [0] (n=boobaloo@84.42.45.44) 13.58.49 Part boobaloo 14.03.34 # kkurbjun: surely the decoder could store it that way? 14.26.55 Join LambdaCalculus37 [0] (i=44a0430d@gateway/web/freenode/x-4a8f19c23d53e286) 14.44.50 Quit n1s (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 14.51.28 Join teru [0] (n=teru@KD059133112132.ppp.dion.ne.jp) 14.53.42 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 14.55.33 # New commit by 03teru (r21700): Add myself to docs/COMMITTERS 14.58.34 # \o/ New committer! 15.00.08 # mt (logs): shouldn't FS#10182 get closed now that you've committed it? 15.22.44 Quit _lifeless (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 15.31.41 Quit bmbl (No route to host) 15.36.26 Join Lss [0] (n=Lss@cm33.zeta237.maxonline.com.sg) 15.36.39 # New commit by 03mcuelenaere (r21701): * FS#10411 - Fixed point math code is bloated by Jeffrey Goode ... 15.38.44 # hmm http://build.rockbox.org/new.cgi doesn't pick up commits automatically? 15.39.35 Join itcheg [0] (i=4117734b@gateway/web/freenode/x-76cc02ed506897ff) 15.39.39 Join bmbl [0] (n=Miranda@unaffiliated/bmbl) 15.42.07 Nick linuxguy4 is now known as linuxguy3 (n=timj@adsl-68-253-212-153.dsl.emhril.ameritech.net) 15.44.48 Quit Lss (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 15.45.47 Join Lss [0] (n=Lss@cm33.zeta237.maxonline.com.sg) 15.49.26 Join GodEater_ [0] (n=godeater@rockbox/staff/GodEater) 15.49.27 Quit GodEater_ (Client Quit) 15.50.02 # mcuelenaere: nice delta :) 15.51.18 # * mcuelenaere wonders what the previous binsize increase of Blue_Dude's patch was 15.51.48 # maybe it includes some big table in core that was previously in a plugin? 15.56.23 # I don't think so, Blue_Dude #ifdef'd those out 15.56.25 Join pondlife [50] (n=Steve@rockbox/developer/pondlife) 15.56.46 # but I think the said that binsize should actually be decreased compared to before his patches 15.56.58 # Bagder: Are you reworking the build table? 15.57.33 # mcuelenaere: there's always the database from http://rasher.dk/rockbox/graphs/ 15.57.40 # Bagder: A possible inverted layout example: http://pondlife.homeip.net/images/BuildTableExample.ods 15.57.57 # gevaerts: ah, those clients still build? 15.58.17 # yes 15.58.42 # hmm wasn't there a Javascript version of that too? 16.00.19 Quit Grahack ("Leaving.") 16.00.23 Join GodEater_ [0] (n=godeater@94-116-66-169.dynamic.thecloud.net) 16.00.59 # * mcuelenaere thinks those graphs are a bit too small to interpret 16.01.20 # mcuelenaere: you're probably better off downloading the database from there 16.01.30 Quit GodEater_ (Client Quit) 16.05.17 # * mcuelenaere finds http://mcuelenaere.alwaysdata.net/rockbox_chart/ 16.10.24 Join n00b81 [0] (n=taylor@unaffiliated/n00b81) 16.12.03 Join webguest74 [0] (n=400789a2@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-4a6de0d91f53ba5c) 16.12.27 Quit webguest74 (Client Quit) 16.14.39 # hmm binsize.db is 2 revisions behind current SVN 16.16.54 # the website isn't updated constantly 16.18.19 Join n1s [0] (n=n1s@rockbox/developer/n1s) 16.21.12 # It's updated every couple of hours 16.21.48 Join paulk [0] (n=paulk@lib33-1-82-233-88-171.fbx.proxad.net) 16.22.39 # Hello! I've got a sansa e250 and I'm running ubuntu 9.04. I've connected the player to my computer and it doesn't mount. it is listed when I type lusb in a terminal. How can I mount the sansa ? 16.23.37 # paulk: Is the Sansa set to MSC mode? 16.23.44 # yes, of course 16.23.58 # Sounds like the dreaded libgphoto bug 16.24.27 # Yes, i'm reading a forum that tells gphoto is teh problem 16.24.30 # how can i fix it ? 16.25.39 # well, i'm downloading the lastest version of gphoto 16.32.11 # Maybe there should be a wiki page on this bug or something. Do we have a workaround, short of removing everything hal/gphoto related? gevaerts? 16.33.20 # rasher: the only way I know of is to edit this fdi file, but remember that I've never actually seen this myself, as I don't use the thing 16.33.33 # AFAIK that's the only way that's been reported. 16.34.06 # Or upgrade gphoto to some newer version. i don't know the best way to do that though 16.34.40 # probably smarter to edit the .fdi 16.34.45 # I've upgraded it 16.34.46 # * gevaerts thinks that removing hal is the best solution, but he's probably in a small and shrinking minority 16.41.03 # * gevaerts hears a coworker talk about running things on a redhat 7.2 box 16.41.44 Join Strife89 [0] (n=Michael@adsl-154-19-202.mcn.bellsouth.net) 16.42.01 Join toffe82 [0] (n=chatzill@74.0.180.178) 16.47.16 # I've modified the .fdi 16.48.35 # It works ! 16.48.38 # great 16.49.36 Join BryanJacobs [0] (n=bryanjac@128.151.67.243) 16.51.21 # paulk: Would you mind writing a short explanation of what you did and create a wiki page for it? 16.51.37 # Why not ? 16.51.42 # paulk: or if that's too much bother, just write it on a pastebin and I'm sure someone else will 16.51.49 # It's a rather common problem, unfortunately 16.52.03 # Something like LibGphoto2Bug 16.52.06 # I found the solution on : http://www.mattwoodward.com/blog/index.cfm?event=showEntry&entryId=E24FA790-C19F-4674-A6FE8AA9E5D8FE83 16.52.18 # « On Ubuntu 9.04 (Jaunty), however, I ran into an issue. When I plugged my e280 in with the USB mode set to MSC it would mount and then immediately unmount, and of course the Rockbox installer won't work unless the device is mounted. 16.52.18 # There's a lot of information available about this problem and numerous potential solutions, but only one worked for me. Jaunty ships with a config file (specifically /usr/share/hal/fdi/preprobe/10osvendor/20-libgphoto2.fdi) that has a bunch of digital audio players "definitions" in it, and that was causing a conflict. Once I removed all the references to Sandisk players in that file, the Rockbox installer saw my e280 fine. » 16.53.19 # I'll copy the solution in a wiki page 16.53.31 # but my english is very bad... I'm french... 16.53.36 # I'll try 16.53.46 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 16.54.42 # Where must i create the page ? 16.56.24 # paulk: Just enter the address of the page as if it existed 16.56.31 # And it'll prompt you to create the page 16.56.52 # ok. 16.57.00 # Maybe he was wondering what to call the page? :) 16.57.04 # what name for the page ? What i want ? 16.57.09 # yes :) 16.57.19 Join TheSphinX^ [0] (n=cold@p54A5C72C.dip.t-dialin.net) 16.57.21 # LibGphoto2Bug? 16.57.22 # I'm not sure 16.57.38 # ok for LibGphoto2Bug 16.57.48 # We can always move it 16.58.36 # ok 17.00.32 # Do i have to create an account ? 17.01.26 # Ah, yes indeed 17.01.37 # ok 17.03.52 # it tells me « Access check on TWiki.LibGphoto2Bug failed. Action "change": access not allowed on web. » 17.05.07 # paulk: Did you ask in here for write access? 17.05.28 # maybe. I want to create my page ^^ 17.05.54 # I'll add you now - what is your wiki name? 17.06.11 # PaulKocialkowski 17.06.14 # thank-you 17.07.08 # ok 17.07.14 Part pondlife 17.07.15 # paulk: OK, done. That doesn't sound very French :) 17.07.44 # It's Polish 17.07.53 Quit teru ("Quit") 17.07.59 # what is %TOC% ? 17.08.09 # table of contents 17.08.26 # ok 17.13.45 Join captainkwel [0] (i=2669ecc2@gateway/web/freenode/x-9f83fc975111bb6f) 17.14.28 Quit paulk (Nick collision from services.) 17.14.41 Join paulk_ [0] (n=paulk@lib33-1-82-233-88-171.fbx.proxad.net) 17.17.46 # http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/LibGphoto2Bug 17.18.04 # Please, correct my answers, i'm really bad at english 17.21.10 # That's a good start at least 17.29.32 Quit ReKleSS ("Leaving") 17.33.37 # paulk_: thanks, that should be helpful in the future 17.37.09 Quit TheSphinX^ ("XChat@Linux") 17.45.30 # http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/LibGphoto2Bug the problem as stated is too broad and the slution is a hammer to crack a nut IMHO 17.45.52 # * robin0800 solution 17.46.03 # * GodEater agrees 17.55.10 Join pondlife1 [0] (n=Steve@cpc1-rdng11-0-0-cust362.winn.cable.ntl.com) 17.55.22 Quit pondlife1 (Client Quit) 17.57.13 Quit Llorean ("Leaving.") 17.57.51 Join Llorean [0] (n=DarkkOne@adsl-99-182-52-92.dsl.hstntx.sbcglobal.net) 18.03.04 Quit petur ("work->home") 18.16.48 Join barrywardell [0] (n=barry@barry-workstation.ucd.ie) 18.20.25 Join Hillshum [0] (n=chatzill@unaffiliated/hillshum) 18.23.30 Join domonoky [0] (n=Domonoky@rockbox/developer/domonoky) 18.28.20 # Is it necessary to unmount Samsas between installing the bootloader and the binary? 18.31.24 # I copy them both over at the same time all the time. Works swell 18.32.13 # markun, has the tea5760 driver ever been tested? 18.38.51 # rasher: is there a way to determine what the last build commit at http://rasher.dk/rockbox/graphs/ is? 18.39.36 # Hillshum: no, unmounting inbetween is not needed. 18.40.18 # Should the instructions be changed then? (the ones in the test build post) 18.41.52 Quit BryanJacobs ("Java user signed off") 18.43.55 Join perrikwp [0] (n=Keith@rrcs-96-10-92-226.se.biz.rr.com) 18.53.00 Quit paulk_ (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 18.53.48 Quit Hillshum (Remote closed the connection) 18.53.51 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 18.56.40 # mcuelenaere: Not sure what you mean by that? 18.57.33 # there's nothing on that page indicating which revision the last build is? 18.58.08 # Ah! That can be arranged 18.58.27 # * mcuelenaere doesn't feel like downloading the full db just to see which revision the last one is :) 19.00.54 # It will be there on the next update 19.01.07 # ok thanks 19.02.52 Quit timc (Remote closed the connection) 19.03.01 # Which might be now, or in 4 hours.. I'm not sure if I managed it before 19:00 19.03.35 Join Hillshum [0] (n=chatzill@unaffiliated/hillshum) 19.03.44 Quit Strife89 ("Lunchtime! :)") 19.04.45 Join timc [0] (n=aoeu@c-68-45-191-214.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) 19.04.51 # so it updates every 4 hours? 19.05.23 # Actually not. 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Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org") 20.10.01 # * bertrik already knows his builds are slow, if they complete at all 20.10.30 # I hope we'll be able to provide access to the db with build stats/info 20.11.40 # Bagder: that would be great. If realtime access isn't possible, maybe a periodic dump? 20.12.06 # yeps 20.12.44 Join Thundercloud [0] (i=thunderc@persistence.flat.devzero.co.uk) 20.14.11 Quit DarkSpectrum () 20.14.57 Join Russel-Athletic [0] (n=engelzz@d174.stw.stud.uni-saarland.de) 20.14.59 # hiho 20.15.17 # Russel-Athletic: hello 20.15.17 # sorry that i will ask a perhaps stupid question but i can't figure out how to do the following: 20.15.38 # have you read the manual? 20.16.06 # i want to have a menu in my tagnavi_custom.config which shows me all files from a directory Test but in there i want the normal artist -> album -> title submenu 20.16.15 # i tried "Test" -> artist ? filename ~ "/Test" -> yearlabum -> title = "fmt_title" 20.16.31 # but this doesn't show me the entry in my database 20.17.00 # but my tagnavi_custom.config is displayed ( i have a podcast entry for example, which is shown) 20.20.18 Quit kugel (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 20.21.23 Join merbanan [0] (n=banan@c-83-233-52-104.cust.bredband2.com) 20.28.38 Quit Zarggg () 20.29.48 Quit itcheg (Ping timeout: 180 seconds) 20.35.58 Join Zarggg [0] (n=zarggg@65-78-69-194.c3-0.eas-ubr6.atw-eas.pa.cable.rcn.com) 20.41.13 # markun, I see a lot of mismatches between the tea5760 driver code and the datasheet 20.42.33 Join mc2739 [0] (n=mc2739@cpe-67-10-234-29.satx.res.rr.com) 20.43.01 # if somebody answered me, could you please repeat it? i had a horrible lag spike and don't know what got out and what got in 20.43.55 # Russel-Athletic: I didn't see anything, sorry, there's logs at rockbox.org/irc 20.44.43 # thanks 20.46.29 # bertrik: hm, sorry about that then 20.49.29 Join Zagor [242] (n=bjst@46.35.227.87.static.tab.siw.siwnet.net) 20.51.21 Quit Hillshum (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 20.53.12 # markun, I didn't mean to offend you or anything like that 20.53.18 Quit Russel-Athletic ("leaving") 20.53.52 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 20.55.43 Join Hillshum [0] (n=chatzill@unaffiliated/hillshum) 20.57.09 Join jgarvey [0] (n=jgarvey@cpe-098-026-065-013.nc.res.rr.com) 20.57.14 Join p3tur [50] (n=petur@rockbox/developer/petur) 20.59.22 # yay, noise from the fm radio 20.59.31 # :) 20.59.34 # good work 20.59.34 # nice :) 20.59.35 # Is it tuned? 20.59.47 # no 21.00.37 Quit flydutch ("/* empty */") 21.00.40 # is it easy to auto tune to the next channel? 21.01.26 # the chip can auto-tune, yes 21.01.34 # but it needs some settings to do that IIUC 21.02.23 # quite a few radio chips I've seen so far can do autonomous tuning, maybe we should add support for that in rockbox 21.08.18 # * Zagor wants a commit... 21.08.35 Join Ubuntuxer [0] (n=johannes@dslb-094-221-087-199.pools.arcor-ip.net) 21.10.07 # bertrik: In fact all chips except the oldest one can autotune, yet no target uses that 21.10.17 # boys and girls... we have radio on the meizu m3! 21.10.23 # \☺/ 21.10.29 # Iirc someone tried autotuning at some point, and found that it wasn't working well 21.10.34 # Nice 21.10.43 # * gevaerts thinks that the meizu m3 port is ready for release :) 21.11.08 # i tried doing autotune in software which sucked 21.11.40 # Nice job, bertrik. It didn't take very long either :) 21.11.51 # first station tuned was radio Decibel, playing some "La la la la la" song by Kylie Minogue 21.12.06 # there is no accounting for taste is there :p 21.13.19 Quit n1s (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 21.13.32 # n00b81, a lot of code could be re-used, for example markun had already written the tea5760 driver, and I could re-use the i2c code 21.13.47 # Nice 21.14.10 # bertrik: Looking forward to all those nice Meizu M3 commits. :) 21.14.25 # Looking forward to seeing RockBox on a 2g nano as well :) 21.14.38 # n00b81: That's going to take time. 21.14.48 # Yup, I know. 21.14.48 Join Nico_P [50] (n=nicolas@rockbox/developer/NicoP) 21.15.04 # there are probably a lot more potential developers with a 2g nano than with a meizu 21.15.13 # * LambdaCalculus37 holds his up :) 21.15.20 # BTW, RAM officially dumped from a 2G. This will help with reversing the internals, etc. 21.17.11 # amiconn, I think it depends on the particular fm chip how well it works 21.17.31 # Are there buttons on the M3 yet? I can't rememebr 21.17.57 # I can't see any obvious reason why it would be worse than manual tuning, especially if the chip is designed to autotune 21.18.15 # AlexP: I don't know if there is a proper driver, but we can read them all 21.18.18 # AlexP, AFAIK all buttons have been figured out, but there's no drive ryet 21.18.25 # Righto 21.18.25 # i.e. all three of them :) 21.18.29 # yeah 21.18.40 # gevaerts: I rememeber us talking about keymapping a long time ago 21.18.44 # cool 21.18.46 # The manual for that one will be easy :) 21.18.59 # PLA however... 21.18.59 # gevaerts: I think we decided to bin the quickscreen for a start :) 21.19.20 # the nano guys have finished dumping the RAM 21.19.45 # so has the crypto been broken ? 21.19.47 # That reminds me, is there a better way for the quickscreen on the Clip? Holding down doesn't work on lists 21.20.14 # AlexP: I guess we'll need to drop a fair amount of plugins as well 21.20.18 # Universal: no 21.20.28 # gevaerts: I suspect so 21.21.08 # It's really not going to be the most game-friendly DAP we support 21.21.12 # cheers godeater do we know or suspect what chiper and bit are used ? 21.21.26 # gevaerts: Doom on it :) 21.21.35 # AlexP: doom is doomed :) 21.21.42 # gevaerts: At least it'll be quick to build without doom, pacbox etc 21.21.57 # Godeater: I already said that, haha 21.22.21 # n00b81: yeah, but no-one paid attention ;) 21.22.28 # Universal: chiper ? 21.22.28 # AlexP: we have four directions : up and down are trivial, left is the third button, and we use hold for right :) 21.22.37 # do you mean cipher ? 21.22.50 # crap yer 21.22.53 # if so, the strongest candidate is AES / 128 21.22.56 # btw, the key is most likely AES 128-bit. But we won't be able to get it - - unless with a hw hack 21.22.59 # gevaerts: Hmmm :) 21.23.04 Quit Hillshum (Remote closed the connection) 21.23.17 # n00b81: you mean the algorithm, the key can be anything ;) 21.23.23 # how taxing is that for its soc ? 21.23.27 # n00b81, it's both encrypted and signed, right? 21.23.36 # most likely 21.23.48 # gevaerts: There are four buttons really I guess - you can press in the middle of the pad 21.23.48 # Universal: not very, it uses hardware crypto 21.24.31 # whats the likely hood of that ? 21.24.43 # very likely :P 21.24.44 # the liklihood of what ? 21.24.45 # AlexP: yes, but pure touch is not really handy. The gigabeat gets away with that by *only* doing touch 21.25.01 # GodEater: I think he means the likely hood of it being in hw 21.25.09 # gevaerts: You mean have the three + slide up and down? 21.25.17 Join saratoga [0] (i=9803c6dd@rockbox/developer/saratoga) 21.25.20 # hadware crypto 21.25.23 # AlexP, the touch strip gives a position, also the <> button is touch sensitive 21.25.30 # Universal: we're near certain of it 21.25.38 # quite costly 21.25.45 # bertrik, gevaerts: I'm just looking what the OF does again 21.25.48 # AlexP: I don't know. This will need a lot of experimentation 21.26.11 # Ah yes, >> has both touch + click 21.26.15 # The OF does much less than what we want to do I think 21.26.25 # So I guess we can have long for both of those too 21.26.27 # Universal: what do you mean "costly" ? 21.26.43 # gevaerts: For sure 21.26.46 # hardware cypto is costly 21.26.52 # AlexP, yeah I wondered what to use for left/right 21.27.07 # hardware is cheap 21.27.12 # AlexP: yes, but I fear you'll have to drop short touch then 21.27.21 # Universal: in what way ? 21.27.33 # gevaerts: Yeah, I think it has to be one thing for touch only 21.27.34 # the OF uses M as the DO-NOT-WANT/escape/cancel/back button and PLAY as the WANT/PLAY/yes/GO/select button as far as I can tell 21.27.40 # Unless it is very long 21.28.28 # * gevaerts votes for re-wiring the thing and adding extra buttons 21.28.29 # as in price (well that what my teacher in uni told me) 21.28.29 # So we have touch and click on <>, click at the top and bottom of the pad, and then position on touch on the pad. The OF uses touch on the pad to have a top, middle and bottom "button", and then slide 21.28.51 # Universal: it can't be that pricey, or ipods would be unaffordable 21.29.11 # good piont 21.29.33 # the bottom part of the strip (over the play button) doesn't seem to do much w.r.t. position 21.29.59 # maybe that's just a setting though 21.30.11 # AlexP: how do you differentiat between touch and click on the same "button" (if you "click" you will also "touch", or?) 21.30.19 # there are some settings for the touchpad 21.30.37 # pixelma: A good question - I guess there needs to be some sort of delay 21.31.05 # morse input for buttons? 21.31.23 # pixelma: That is what the OF does - if you touch for a second or two without clicking it only then interprets it as a touch 21.31.26 Join Hillshum [0] (n=chatzill@unaffiliated/hillshum) 21.31.37 # I guess we do it on "end of touch" 21.31.38 # so whats your piot of attack godeater ? 21.31.52 # pixelma: So if you remove your finger without clicking, then it is a touch 21.32.28 # So no differentiation between long and short touch, just for clicks 21.33.10 # Yeah, the OF uses removing the finger as the trigger for the middle "button" 21.33.28 # we could do gestures on the slider 21.33.37 # up and down? :) 21.33.49 # or down-up-down, ... 21.33.53 # long and short "touch" would also require a stable enough touch pad driver (from what I heard H10 and M:Robe100 don't work well) 21.33.54 # up-down-up to resume music :-) 21.34.29 # I imagine 21.35.07 # * gevaerts thinks we should send one of the things to pixelma so she can stop complaining about the c200 being hard to do button maps for ;) 21.36.26 # pixelma: Good job on the plugin stuff incidently :) 21.36.27 # yay? Although that isn't given... for example, I think that the Ondio has a quite nice key mapping despite being short on buttons 21.36.43 Quit LambdaCalculus37 (Ping timeout: 180 seconds) 21.36.46 # no quickscreen though ;) 21.37.20 Quit Ubuntuxer ("Leaving.") 21.37.23 # AlexP: thanks... I even copied your kaymap typo in the commit message! ;) 21.38.13 Join LambdaCalculus37 [0] (i=44a0430d@rockbox/staff/LambdaCalculus37) 21.38.22 # pixelma: excellent :) 21.39.36 # and left out one thing which is jackpot.tex ... your changes there made me notice that it still only was included in the Player's manual and need to prepare a change in main.tex too and wanted to commit on its own 21.40.17 Quit mc2739 ("ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.0.11/2009060215]") 21.40.18 # ah right 21.40.52 # Universal: encryption hardware for decoding AES is extremely cheap 21.42.37 # my teacher is kinda old 21.47.00 Quit Universal ("Leaving") 21.47.02 Join Lear [0] (i=chatzill@rockbox/developer/lear) 21.48.33 # so, the memdump is available to those in the know :) 21.50.53 Join shotofadds [0] (n=rob@rockbox/developer/shotofadds) 21.51.00 Join n1s [0] (n=n1s@rockbox/developer/n1s) 21.58.57 Quit LambdaCalculus37 () 22.01.20 Quit Hillshum (Remote closed the connection) 22.02.44 Quit martian67 ("out") 22.03.32 Join martian67 [0] (n=martian6@about/linux/regular/martian67) 22.06.08 Join lee321987 [0] (n=chatzill@adsl-76-250-186-194.dsl.dytnoh.sbcglobal.net) 22.06.35 # does the e200v1 have more RAM, and/or a faster CPU than the c200v1? 22.06.58 # neither 22.07.02 Quit merbanan (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 22.08.26 Quit lee321987 (Client Quit) 22.10.04 Join barrywardell_ [0] (n=barrywar@79.97.85.223) 22.10.14 Quit desowin ("KVIrc Insomnia 4.0.0, revision: 3303, sources date: 20090703, built on: 2009/07/05 07:40:45 UTC 3303 http://www.kvirc.net/") 22.11.22 Join redriot [0] (n=18820f1b@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-3a46e45726eb1282) 22.13.07 # could someone help me ? 22.13.44 # maybe, if you tell us your problem and it is related to Rockbox... ;) 22.13.59 # i just got the source from the SVN, and am a bit confused what to do next. im trying to install on a gigabeat S 22.14.15 # .-. 22.14.37 Nick n00b81 is now known as n00b81|bbl (n=taylor@unaffiliated/n00b81) 22.14.59 Quit Horscht ("Verlassend") 22.15.55 # ? 22.15.56 # redriot: did you see http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/GigabeatSInstallation ? 22.16.32 # yes but that doesnt help when your trying to compile a SNV bootloader 22.16.35 Quit n1s (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 22.18.41 # take a look at http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/HowToCompile 22.18.53 # its all in the wiki, just search a bit.. 22.19.50 Join Horscht [0] (n=Horscht2@xbmc/user/horscht) 22.19.51 # You may have some problems though. The gigabeat s installation is not exactly foolproof yet 22.22.03 # :/ 22.23.56 Quit petur (Remote closed the connection) 22.24.06 # what does this mean ? /bin/sh: arm-elf-gcc: not found 22.24.19 # redriot: You're missing the cross-compiler toolchain. 22.24.24 # (Sounds like, anyway) 22.25.30 # :/ where can i get it ? 22.25.40 # * domonoky points at the wiki 22.27.19 # http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/DevelopmentGuide should link to everything needed... 22.30.07 # thanks 22.32.17 Join perrikwp [0] (n=Keith@rrcs-96-10-92-226.se.biz.rr.com) 22.32.59 Quit mcuelenaere (Remote closed the connection) 22.33.29 Join stripwax [0] (n=Miranda@87-194-34-169.bethere.co.uk) 22.33.55 Quit bmbl ("Bye!") 22.34.31 Join webguest09 [0] (n=400789a2@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-1dfc7298b55db3b5) 22.34.32 Quit perrikwp1 (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 22.36.14 Quit webguest09 (Client Quit) 22.45.29 Quit jgarvey ("Leaving") 22.51.31 Quit Thundercloud (Remote closed the connection) 22.53.55 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 22.58.41 Quit perrikwp (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 22.59.08 Quit barrywardell_ () 22.59.10 Quit Lear ("ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.5/20090624025744]") 23.01.03 Join low_light [0] (i=c730190b@gateway/web/freenode/x-695fcf8357a7b12c) 23.02.09 Join perrikwp [0] (n=Keith@rrcs-96-10-92-226.se.biz.rr.com) 23.04.16 # bertrik: do you have the as3514 datasheet? can you tell me what the register AS3514_PLLMODE is? 23.06.16 # low_light, can't find it right now, will look some more 23.06.36 # low_light: don't you have that datasheet? 23.06.39 Nick n00b81|bbl is now known as n00b81 (n=taylor@unaffiliated/n00b81) 23.07.10 Join Hillshum [0] (i=3fe2759e@gateway/web/freenode/x-2793971cac873e46) 23.07.22 # register 0x1D? 23.07.36 # Bagder: no. I have the the as3525, but that register seem to be different 23.07.46 # bertrik: yes 1D 23.08.57 # it's a 2-bit register that specifies the range of the LRCK clock signal, < 24 kHz or > 24 kHz 23.10.12 # The SA9200 sets it for <24kHz. If it's >24kHz there's clicking whenever the ADC is read 23.10.43 # LRCK is a clock signal with a frequency of the sample rate that indicates when left and right audio is sent over the IIS digital audio interface 23.11.02 # low_light: see PM 23.12.00 # could someone take a look at this error message i get when sending the nk.bin file to my gigabeat ? 23.12.12 # http://pastebin.com/m46d876f3 23.14.52 Join macgeek417 [0] (n=d16bd910@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-aba411951d736602) 23.14.52 # New commit by 03zagor (r21702): Abort on svn failure. 23.15.43 Nick p3tur is now known as petur (n=petur@rockbox/developer/petur) 23.16.24 Quit macgeek417 (Client Quit) 23.16.57 Quit Hillshum (Ping timeout: 180 seconds) 23.17.34 # anyione ? 23.17.55 # redriot: no idea. Hope someone else can help you there. 23.18.04 Join macgeek417 [0] (i=d16bd910@gateway/web/freenode/x-0878747fa0540f19) 23.18.19 # bertrik: so should it be set to >24kHz for 44.1kHz audio? It sounds fine set to <24kHz 23.19.57 Join Hillshum [0] (i=3fe2759e@gateway/web/freenode/x-53b66a89041b0cf6) 23.19.57 # redriot: does lsusb still see the device? anything interesting in dmesg? 23.20.39 # let me check 23.21.12 # low_light, I'm not familiar with this part of the codec, but I think it should be set >24 kHz for 44.1 kHz audio 23.22.26 # tmzt lsusb sees "Bus 001 Device 002: ID 0930:0010 Toshiba Corp. Gigabeat S (mtp)" 23.22.46 # in the uda1380 codec there are similar settings, I think they are used to configure a PLL that creates some multiple of the sample rate 23.22.46 # ok, no errors in dmesg? 23.23.27 Quit toffe82 ("ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.5/20090624025744]") 23.24.20 # tmzt doesnt look like it... "sudo fdisk -l" doesnt see the device 23.24.39 # it won't, it's not a disk 23.24.48 # it's in mtp mode 23.24.53 Join Hillshum_ [0] (i=3fe2759e@gateway/web/freenode/x-4c7fc163e507e35c) 23.25.23 Part macgeek417 23.25.32 # bertrik: ok thanks 23.25.40 Quit low_light () 23.25.55 # tmzt, ok but how tdo i get the contents of the .rockbox folder on the main partition ? 23.26.27 Quit Hillshum (Ping timeout: 180 seconds) 23.26.38 # through mtp, I can only really help you with the usb problem, I don't know gigabeat 23.27.14 Join redriot02 [0] (n=18820f1b@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-f36b9f7ee582a43a) 23.27.14 Quit redriot ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 23.30.00 Join robin0800 [0] (n=robin080@cpc3-brig8-0-0-cust436.brig.cable.ntl.com) 23.32.40 Join fdinel [0] (n=Miranda@modemcable204.232-203-24.mc.videotron.ca) 23.32.57 # ok i mounted the main partition but now it says i cant copy or move anything to it 23.33.02 # im on ubuntu 23.36.06 # how did you mount it? 23.38.38 Nick Hillshum_ is now known as Hillshum (i=3fe2759e@gateway/web/freenode/x-4c7fc163e507e35c) 23.39.45 # well its officially fucked 23.40.03 # after reboot it shows me a screen that says " 23.40.39 # "1 connect the portable center to a media pc" 23.40.50 # you're going to have to talk to someone familiar with gigabeat then 23.42.05 # redriot02: you've done something it doesn't like and it's reformatted itself 23.42.16 # redriot02: you need to send it a new firmware 23.44.07 Join safetydan [0] (n=deverton@rockbox/developer/safetydan) 23.51.25 # Zagor: we should probably get an average for the build-scores read to use in case we get a build without an added score 23.52.11 # Torne 23.52.21 # Bagder: read = ready? 23.52.35 # in usb mode i have partition 1 mounted, and it contains nk.bin 23.52.55 # in partition 2 i have the .rockbox folder, and its contents 23.52.56 # Zagor: if you wish ;-) it can also just be cut out 23.53.12 Quit Hillshum ("Page closed") 23.53.21 # when i type fdisk -l.... it shows me the gigabeat... but 23.53.24 # Bagder: flexible writing, i like it :) 23.53.28 # redriot02: if you can mount it like that then you are in the rockbox bootloader or in rockbox itself 23.53.35 # Partition 1 does not end on cylinder boundary. 23.53.37 # the new build table looks funny with borders around some title images 23.53.48 # redriot02: *don't* change the partition table 23.53.54 # same with partition 2, Partition 2 does not end on cylinder boundary. 23.53.57 # but if you get the screen that says "1 connect the portable.." that's the flash rom telling you it doesn't like something and it wants to have its firmware reinstalled 23.54.04 # cylinder boundaries aren't important 23.54.19 # Bagder: ah yes, it's my "hidden" downloads test. do we want those? (without borders) 23.54.27 # Torne, ive seen message screen 1 2 and 3 23.54.48 # ah, that's what it means... 23.54.51 # ok right now its mounted.. what is the next step i should take 23.55.00 # Zagor: how about just a different bg color/shade ? 23.55.05 # are you in the rockbox bootloader? what does it say on the screen? 23.55.08 # the links were unintended. reload now. 23.55.37 # uh, no... 23.55.40 # still there ff3 23.56.00 # Torne: its a black screen that says Bootloader USB Mode 23.56.08 # redriot02: yes. so you've installed the bootloader correctly 23.56.12 # now 23.56.25 # if you've put .rockbox on partition 2 that's it 23.56.34 # unmount the device 23.56.40 # when you disconnect the cable it should reboot into rockbox 23.56.58 # ok let me try 23.57.19 # New commit by 03bertrik (r21703): Meizu: implement i2c for the meizu fmradio and update the tea5760 tuner driver 23.57.22 # if not then unfortunately the bootrom has taken offense at something you've done and it'll merrily reformat itself and ask to have a new firmware downloaded :) 23.57.24 # make sure you unmount both partitions 23.57.45 # ok unmounting now 23.57.51 # (coincidentally i am looking at the exact bit of code that displays those screens atm) :) 23.57.56 # then pull USB cable or power ? 23.57.57 Join Thundercloud [0] (i=thunderc@persistence.flat.devzero.co.uk) 23.58.00 # just the usb cable 23.58.05 # it should reboot by itself shortly after 23.58.25 # trying now 23.58.52 # devcon attendees, please mail me your travel and accomodation expenses if you want to claim the rockbox fund refund