--- Log for 23.08.109 Server: leguin.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 4 days and 13 hours ago 00.01.46 Join Kumool [0] (n=Khwerz@adsl-72-50-64-150.prtc.net) 00.05.19 Part Grahack 00.14.43 Join jtrenchard [0] (n=jamielxs@88-110-46-44.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) 00.14.56 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 00.15.31 Join robin0800 [0] (n=robin080@cpc3-brig8-0-0-cust436.brig.cable.ntl.com) 00.16.03 Quit Rondom (Nick collision from services.) 00.16.04 Quit gevaerts (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 00.16.13 Join Rondom [0] (n=Rondom@dslb-084-057-185-116.pools.arcor-ip.net) 00.17.54 Join gevaerts [0] (n=fg@rockbox/developer/gevaerts) 00.18.38 # Hello, any developers who could help me with my iriver H10, latest build lcd isn't working properly. 00.20.38 Join saratoga [0] (i=9803c6dd@gateway/web/freenode/x-utcowiiodtyihczn) 00.21.07 # what happens and when? 00.21.53 # Basically when I turn on my player the screen seems all out of sync. 00.22.26 # I wrote a bug report (FS#10557) for it if anybody is interested. 00.26.20 # hmm, I have no idea and don't have an H10, guess you have to stick around with this to get an answer 00.26.23 Quit ender` (" The difference between 'involvement' and 'commitment' is like an eggs-and-ham breakfast: the chicken was 'involved' - the p") 00.26.42 # ok, thanks anyway 00.33.22 Quit intrados_ (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 00.33.24 Quit hillshum (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00.34.26 # jtrenchard: r22462 works? 00.34.43 # I doubt changes to rbutil break a lcd. 00.35.16 # yes, it does work, r22464 and r22466 don't work though. 00.35.41 Join stripwax [0] (n=Miranda@87-194-34-169.bethere.co.uk) 00.37.49 # umm... except he gets really the wrong build installed (for the big H10)? 00.38.24 Part eulerphi 00.39.00 # jtrenchard: can you look into rockbox-info.txt of a build that doesn't work (from your computer), it is in the .rockbox folder 00.39.19 # ok, let me just reload rockbox to a broken build 00.39.41 # you could already take that text file from the sim 00.39.46 # err... zip 00.40.11 # oh, ok 00.40.28 # although I don't know if that zip is stored somewhere by the Utility 00.40.49 # or if - then where 00.41.01 # ok, i'm in the .txt, what should I be looking for 00.41.30 # just pastebin the whole thing 00.41.34 # ok 00.42.50 # http://pastebin.ca/1539557 00.42.53 # the Target: line at the top is what I think could be interesting 00.43.10 Join intrados_ [0] (n=intrados@cpe-71-67-138-190.woh.res.rr.com) 00.43.18 # "Target: h10" is that right then? 00.45.40 # DIRIVER_H10 is for the 20GB or larger HD based one 00.45.45 # hmm... I can't see a difference between small and big H10 builds there at the moment 00.46.06 # see tools/configure line 1182 00.46.45 # is that the H10 you have? 00.47.18 # I compare to a rockbox-info.txt from an 5/6GB H10 I downloaded from the current build page 00.47.50 # saratoga: he said he had a small on 00.47.53 # e 00.47.53 # jtrenchard: there is a 5GB and a 20Gb which do you have? 00.48.06 # I have a 5gb 00.48.07 # New commit by 03mcuelenaere (r22467): Touchscreen list handling: ignore presses close to the scrollbar when it's on the right, this is similar as how it's handled when the scrollbar is on ... 00.50.25 # mcuelenaere: so the 777+ should have the same compat as the 777 right? 00.50.43 # well that svn commit slowed my building to a crawl, but looking at the makefiles, I'm pretty sure the defines in that pastebin are for the large H10 00.50.50 # PSPdemon: yes, AFAICS the VX777+ seems to be completely the same as the VX777 00.51.04 # (which isn't true for all Onda devices, like the VX787 has a Rockchip) 00.51.19 # yea and the 777LE is cc1600 based 00.51.22 # true 00.51.40 # rockbox-info.txt has Target: h10_5 in yesterday's daily build, the current build only has h10 - even for the 5/6GB zip, and the file is noticably larger (over 1MB) 00.51.46 # im guessing thats the one you got it confused for 00.52.20 # pixelma: just compiled it and todays build is definately wrong 00.52.25 # I could imagine that domonoky1's commit screwed something up in a way that a big H10 build gets packaged for the small one too 00.52.33 # my old sansa broke so im looking into possibly getting one of those onda's as a replacement 00.52.45 # mcuelenaere: Hm, why not let it scroll instead of having dead zones? 00.53.03 # PSPdemon: well they're still unsupported, but Rockbox works pretty well on them 00.53.07 # rockbox.org has Target: h10 while my build gets Target: h10_5gb 00.53.10 # how about audio? 00.53.43 # kugel: i wondered about the Sansa e200 keymap if it could be changed to shutdown if I hold power and menu at the same time? 00.53.53 # so far by the way it seems most everything works on it 00.53.54 # evidently my fingers are too large since i often hold both and the player does nothing 00.54.07 # saratoga: that's what was in yesterday's daily too (which is actually r22462-090822) 00.54.11 # or is power + menu already mapped to something? 00.54.11 # kugel: the dead zones are all the corners, for example when I'm scrolling using the scrollbar it could make the 'pointer' jump a bit to the left (into the list itself). By ignoring that part I don't accidentaly press anything 00.54.29 # PSPdemon: audio works, as far as the hardware allows it to 00.54.51 # s/all the corners/all the borders/ 00.54.59 # saratoga: should be possible, but I wouldn't want that in SVN 00.55.14 # whats your reasoning? 00.55.15 # they're not literally 'dead', but they don't linearly scale back to LCD coordinates 00.55.26 # the proximity of the buttons seems like a general annoyance to me 00.55.32 # my fingers aren't to large, I'd need two to turn it off 00.56.12 # PSPdemon: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/OndaVX747 has a known issues list 00.57.05 # PSPdemon: keep in mind internal flash won't be working for a long time, if at all 00.57.24 # so it loads rockbox via sd? 00.57.24 # mcuelenaere: I mean those areas could act as if the scrollbar was used 00.57.45 # kugel: ah, well they sort of do already 00.57.55 # the dead area is quite large depending on the scrollbar width. 00.57.57 # or is this loaded via usb onto ram? 00.57.59 Quit robin0800 (Remote closed the connection) 00.58.13 # you can scroll by holding your finger/stylus/whatever in the list up or down 00.58.17 # but the scrollbar is faster 00.58.25 # PSPdemon: yes, SD 00.58.28 # miniSD* 00.58.55 # kugel: I mean ignore the menu press and power down whenever power is held, even if menu is also held 00.58.59 # kugel: sure, but I don't think users are going to 'click' on list items at the far right 00.59.18 # so something like if(POWER||(POWER&&MENU)) 00.59.25 # hmm but domonoky1's commit says it only uses the info.txt, which wouldn't explain why it's wron on the server 00.59.31 # (and I could've also used the icons width instead of the scrollbar width) 00.59.34 # saratoga: not sure if that's easily doable 00.59.53 # mcuelenaere: I was going to suggest that 00.59.53 # ok if i get time i'll look into it 01.00.13 # when you mean "as far as the hardware allows it to", what do you exactly mean? 01.03.20 # did i kill the chat? :P 01.13.41 # PSPdemon: the audio codec isn't *that* great, it doesn't allow real volume control so software has to do that 01.15.03 Join webguest55 [0] (n=4e850b31@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-nnhwqgkeyojhttcm) 01.16.05 # hi i just installed rockbox but i don't know how to load apple's os firmwire can anyone help me please? 01.16.37 # kugel: do icons have a fixed width? 01.17.28 # mcuelenaere: no, but there's icon_get_width() 01.17.30 # please i realy need to know how to load my original os 01.17.31 # webguest55: I think the manual can ;) 01.17.40 # ok 01.17.44 # ill try again 01.17.46 # (see draw_title() in the same file) 01.18.28 # webguest55: do you mean uninstall rockbox? 01.18.55 # kugel: ok (I suppose you mean get_icon_width()?) 01.19.09 # I thought webguest55 means dual boot 01.19.23 # That's why I was asking 01.19.38 # yes :) 01.19.51 # no i mean dual boot with rockbox 01.20.26 # i want to know how to load my original os at the same time 01.20.41 # webguest55: which ipod?? 01.21.04 # what do i have to press when my ipod is booting up for my original os to load up? 01.21.18 # ipod photo 4g 01.21.23 # kugel: what if no icons are displayed? 01.21.54 # webguest55: Either hold menu, or turn on the hold switch. 01.22.04 # there is a headline in the manual called "starting the original firmware" (and the pdf is also searchable), just a hint ;) 01.22.06 # oh nvm, it seems to take a default width then 01.22.19 # ok thank you :) 01.22.21 # mcuelenaere: what does it do when the scrollbar is on the left in this case? 01.22.35 # mcuelenaere: now thats not fun... so all volume controls are handled by software -_- 01.22.44 # guessing that its not that great in sound quality? 01.22.51 # PSPdemon: blame Ingenic.. 01.23.02 # or ChinaChip for not having a dedicated audio chip 01.23.30 # kugel: haven't tried with a theme without icons yet 01.23.31 # thanks im new to ipod a rockbox so I didin't no that 01.24.33 Quit webguest55 ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") 01.25.26 # kugel: looks like it's handled as you'd expect (ie no 'invisible' dead zone) 01.25.54 # has anybody worked out why H10 5g's lcd isn't working yet? 01.26.22 # yes read above 01.27.47 # saratoga: right... is there anything I could do to get it to work then?? 01.27.50 # jtrenchard: there is something wrong on the server so that the build on the server behind the 5/6GB link is actually a 20GB one 01.28.07 # oh, ok 01.30.21 # I hope it's fixed in 9 hours, my caffeine supply has run out, so i'm going now. 01.30.37 Part jtrenchard ("Leaving") 01.32.05 # use this one: http://www.duke.edu/~mgg6/rockbox/H10.7z 01.32.48 # mcuelenaere: Any news on checkwps? 01.32.58 # evilnick1: news? 01.33.22 # How far you got with it after getting it compiling, if you did 01.33.32 # * evilnick1 is taking dictation here! 01.33.49 # evilnick1: it's compiling and working 01.34.23 # New commit by 03gevaerts (r22468): compile for h10/5 when asked to compile for h10/5 01.35.14 # mcuelenaere: Have you put any fixes in svn? 01.35.30 # New commit by 03mcuelenaere (r22469): Touchscreen list handling: use icon width instead of scrollbar width for the 'ignoring' zone + correct comment that shouldn't be true anymore (and ... 01.35.50 # evilnick1: yes, several 01.36.29 # gevaerts: nice. work. What happened there? 01.36.36 # mcuelenaere: Sorry, these are all JdGordon's questions. He's had no chance to check what's happened today yet. 01.37.09 # pixelma: I guess a copy/paste error somewhere in Sweden 01.37.15 # or maybe in Gent 01.37.18 # evilnick1: ah, well refer him to http://www.rockbox.org/since-4weeks.html 01.37.37 # he cant see that either.. 01.37.52 # gevaerts: hmm? Why was the daily build correct then? 01.38.08 # pixelma: Bagder does the dailies with a different script 01.38.57 # ah, yes. Just wanted to ask something along those lines. Weird that it took so long to be noticed 01.39.26 # if you think it's fixed you could close the bug report 01.40.12 Join jtrenchard [0] (n=jamielxs@88-110-46-44.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) 01.40.55 # ah, there's a bug report? 01.41.00 # http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/10557 (the description is wrong but this is what the user could see with the 20GB build on the 5GB) 01.41.11 # It works! Thanks everybody 01.41.42 # * gevaerts closes things 01.41.53 # has anyone got the stand alone codec tool to work? 01.42.04 Part jtrenchard ("Leaving") 01.43.46 Quit CaptainKwel (Remote closed the connection) 01.47.23 Join Hillshum [0] (n=hillshum@75-165-229-125.slkc.qwest.net) 01.54.26 Quit DarkDefender ("Leaving") 02.14.59 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 02.16.32 Join shaggy-h [0] (n=kiwi@host-87-74-127-193.dslgb.com) 02.24.52 Join langzeitstudent_ [0] (n=langzeit@p5B17D302.dip.t-dialin.net) 02.25.59 # New commit by 03mcuelenaere (r22470): Remove unused defines 02.27.53 Quit fyrestorm (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 02.34.10 # rasher: re widecabbie... ok so yes it worked before, but that is the *only* theme that has had the problem sofar... so what needs to happen is the theme site needs to get info on how much is actually being used 02.34.30 # then we can make some arguemtns for/against chaing the size and/or customisable buf size 02.40.10 # could someone help me understand how the makefile in FS#10243 actually works 02.40.28 # i don't understand the make rules used there 02.41.02 Quit stripwax ("http://miranda-im.org") 02.42.24 Quit jboy_ (Read error: 101 (Network is unreachable)) 02.45.57 Quit mcuelenaere () 02.48.30 Quit moos (Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer)) 02.48.48 Join moos [0] (i=mustapha@rockbox/staff/moos) 02.55.13 Quit LambdaCalculus37 ("This computer has gone to sleep") 03.18.36 Join decayedcell [0] (n=decayed_@60-241-92-53.static.tpgi.com.au) 03.20.15 # JdGordon: FS#10549 mentions at least 11 broken Themes (many based on widecabbie) so increasing the buffer a little (so space for images is about the same as before) would be good. 03.22.13 # I vicarisouly told kugel to increase it this morning.... 03.22.29 # http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/8806 03.22.32 Nick langzeitstudent_ is now known as jboy (n=langzeit@p5B17D302.dip.t-dialin.net) 03.23.49 Quit Thundercloud_ (Remote closed the connection) 03.23.52 # JdGordon: I think you're dreaming 03.24.35 # lol 03.24.43 # widecabbie is easy to fix to fit in the current buffer, the same trick probably also works for other themes 03.26.43 # wow thats a hell of a tower or rockbox at devcon 2008 03.27.10 # even more rediculous at 2009 03.27.22 # PSPdemon: With pigs. :P 03.27.44 # lolol 03.28.33 # PSPdemon: http://picasaweb.google.com/neil.snat/DCW2009?feat=directlink#5372878534030137986 03.29.03 # lul 03.29.13 # i know where those pigs came from too 03.29.24 # i should buy a few for the hell of it ( since they are cheap as hell ) 03.29.45 # * Strife89 admits it's tempting. 03.30.42 # PSPdemon: Head into #rockbox-community so we don't clog up this channel with more silliness. :) 03.30.47 # true 03.32.54 Quit Strife89 ("Sleep.") 03.39.51 Join alexbobp_ [0] (n=alex@adsl-75-34-100-218.dsl.austtx.sbcglobal.net) 03.48.04 # JdGordon: i had a thought, about being able to resize buffer_alloc. you had mentioned it being unsafe to force everything to re-allocate. i think a safe way to deal with it might be to have a callback registered for each allocation, that can be used to fix up any pointers into it when it is moved. for things that are resizing an existing buffer, a new call would be added that doesn't register a callback. the convenient way to handle the ca 03.48.04 # itself would just be to make it the first 4B of the buffer segment 03.48.25 # ...and then WPS can alloc only as much buffer as it needs. :) 03.48.37 # so let me get this straight 03.48.52 # #rockbox-community is for more general questions like "What DAP should I get?" and such? 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It worked just some minutes ago... 10.54.20 Join webguest31 [0] (n=7deed1ed@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-ohtohdghasextvcs) 10.55.47 Quit webguest31 (Client Quit) 10.55.54 Join webguest11 [0] (n=7deed1ed@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-musesayotsvqnjsc) 10.58.55 Quit webguest11 (Client Quit) 10.58.59 Join webguest40 [0] (n=7deed1ed@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-mjcllagirtsvwgrn) 11.04.27 Quit webguest40 ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)") 11.05.21 # forums look down to me too pixelma 11.06.52 # thanks, pity though 11.09.31 Quit robin0800 (Remote closed the connection) 11.09.57 Join robin0800 [0] (n=robin080@general-ld-216.t-mobile.co.uk) 11.16.04 # pixelma, GodEater They're working fine for me now. 11.16.37 Nick YpsyZNC is now known as Ypsy (n=ypsy@geekpadawan.de) 11.18.30 # still nothing for me 11.18.51 # Still fine for me... 11.19.26 Nick alexbobp_ is now known as alexbobp (n=alex@adsl-75-34-100-218.dsl.austtx.sbcglobal.net) 11.19.29 # * pixelma tries something 11.19.55 Quit AndyI () 11.23.58 # ok, looks like a routing problem. 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Topy44: I found an old thread in the forum's "archived threads" describing the exact same problem - I *think* you don't have access to the thread and am sure you won't like the fact that there was no solution in the end, even with LinusN helping (I think that's about the best person who you could speak to about the H300 and ATA problems) 16.05.19 # aaargh 16.05.34 # whats the thread title? 16.06.29 # http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=18348.0 16.06.34 Quit Thundercloud (Read error: 101 (Network is unreachable)) 16.07.13 # I sometimes get a blank page though when trying that link 16.07.15 # yeah that works 16.08.46 # hm 16.09.32 # i DO have smd soldering experience, but i cant see how it can be the ata buffer chip as i can access the hd in usb mass storage mode and also from rockbox after connecting it to usb first 16.09.36 # sec, let me upload the video 16.09.57 # that's what he described too 16.11.03 # my guess would be something the player doesnt like in the harddisks eeprom 16.12.01 Join Thundercloud [0] (i=thunderc@persistence.flat.devzero.co.uk) 16.12.13 # hm! 16.12.23 # i have another hd that fits from my old mp3 player somewhere 16.12.25 # i can test with it 16.12.41 # if that works its the hd eeprom (or possibly bootsector), if not its something on the player 16.15.12 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 16.28.32 # http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NlNXjhiIBOM 16.34.33 Join Omlet [0] (n=Omlet05@232.155-200-80.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be) 16.57.30 Quit xavieran (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 16.59.44 Join xavieran [0] (n=xavieran@ppp118-208-245-46.lns10.mel6.internode.on.net) 17.06.16 # New commit by 03kugel (r22471): Bound the progress slider into the currently used viewport (which should be the ui viewport at virtually any time). 17.17.17 Quit teru ("Quit") 17.22.53 # New commit by 03kugel (r22472): Change the "Rename failed" message to a splash. 17.29.05 # uhm, that's not my red, is it? 17.31.12 Quit Sajber^ ("Leaving.") 17.38.55 # kugel: I wonder if it is related to Zagor's lang builing commit this week 17.39.37 # yeah, that looks like a full rebuild wasnt done 17.39.41 # possibly 17.40.06 # but the clients are supposed to delete the build dir, and that has always been the workaround for this problem 17.40.25 # ok, then it *is* your red and you need to fix it :LD 17.40.27 # -L 17.41.09 # I really though "oh this damn Player again", but it really doesn't look like my red 17.41.25 Join jtrenchard-mobil [0] (n=jamie@nat66.mia.three.co.uk) 17.41.37 Part jtrenchard ("Leaving") 17.41.51 Join jtrenchard [0] (n=jamielxs@79-79-237-190.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) 17.44.40 Join BdN3504 [0] (n=5ce224f2@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-jillnfbjcjhdlxph) 17.45.44 # what's up with the forums? 17.46.27 # not much...just chillin...serving some pages...having a beer 17.47.16 # forums work for me 17.47.33 Join LambdaCalculus37 [0] (n=rmenes@rockbox/staff/LambdaCalculus37) 17.48.51 # there were some routing problems earlier, it was dependent on your provider if you saw those or not. Now I sometimes get/got blank pages from here (couldn't reach the forums before) 17.49.17 # hrm 17.49.29 Join toffe82 [0] (n=chatzill@ppp-69-238-93-126.dsl.frs2ca.pacbell.net) 17.49.38 # a refresh often helps 17.49.55 # well, i upgraded the php version on the server friday upon a prodding for the themes site, so that could have had some effect.. 17.56.53 Quit kugel (Remote closed the connection) 17.57.54 Join saratoga_ [0] (i=463f90ed@gateway/web/freenode/x-dbhtzhnzcaexqvxe) 17.59.07 # ok thanks, i also get blank pages. hope my provider will fix this. 17.59.39 # I closed "S#10467 - [mp3 codec] Patch that reduces consumption of stack" because as far as I can tell it just makes CF really slow without any advantage 18.02.48 Quit stripwax_ ("http://miranda-im.org") 18.03.03 Join BHSPitMonkey [0] (n=stephen@unaffiliated/bhspitmonkey) 18.13.30 Join evilnick [0] (n=evilnick@69.31.43.130) 18.15.14 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 18.15.22 Part jtrenchard-mobil 18.17.16 # do the YH players really not charge? 18.17.40 # Anyone got any ideas for what to call the "other" button on the gigabeat remote (not ff/rw, vol+/-, play, hold). Speaker? Mute? Something else? 18.18.13 # how do i get the font height? 18.18.22 Ctcp Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood 18.18.22 # * JdGordon is trying to code while asleep and its not working 18.18.42 # * gevaerts sends JdGordon a floor up 18.18.52 Join qurvel [0] (n=qurvel@i60-34-8-195.s02.a013.ap.plala.or.jp) 18.19.07 Quit qurvel (Client Quit) 18.19.14 # the datahsheet says this: "If USB power is present and above 3.9V (and wall power is not available), system power is drawn from the USB pin. The battery charger is active, but charge current will be held off until the USB pin increases above 4.0V to prevent the battery charger from further loading down an already low USB supply." 18.19.45 # it implies that battery charging is automatic, and looking at the diagram, I don't even see a way to turn it of in software, let alone to enable it 18.26.04 # "Whenever USB or wall power is present (as sensed by the USB and WALLFB pins), Switcher 1 and the battery charger will always be enabled." 18.26.48 Quit LambdaCalculus37 ("Fwump") 18.28.46 # New commit by 03alex (r22473): Correct a couple of manual button actions for the H100 remote. 18.29.59 # kugel: i'm 99% sure we have charging on the YH920 at least, and probably all of them 18.30.30 # Anybody here knowledgeable with the speech on the iriver h10?? 18.32.19 Join FOAD_ [0] (n=dok@dinah.blub.net) 18.32.58 # jtrenchard: what about it? 18.33.14 Join domonoky1 [0] (n=Domonoky@e179124032.adsl.alicedsl.de) 18.33.33 # On my h10 when the voice is meant to speak, it sometimes says the wrong things 18.33.50 Quit domonoky (Nick collision from services.) 18.34.07 # do you have an up-to-date voice file? 18.34.12 Nick domonoky1 is now known as Domonoky (n=Domonoky@e179124032.adsl.alicedsl.de) 18.34.35 # I clicked make voice file on my vista box yesterday 18.35.01 # could anyone point me towards the file/line that returns ATA error 11? 18.35.06 # i cant find it in ata.c 18.35.34 # jtrenchard: try with a voicefile provided from the rockbox website 18.35.40 # ok 18.36.29 # and make sure the voicefile and the rockbox install are both current. 18.36.48 # ok 18.37.26 Join MausP [0] (n=d95b2eb4@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-ohevjihxzxbkiprh) 18.40.13 Join rtjmay [0] (n=ryan@d75-159-171-9.abhsia.telus.net) 18.40.41 # Hello all. Have a Volkswagen with IPod adapter of Volkswagen. Can I use it together with Rockbox? 18.41.38 # try it and see 18.42.23 # Domonoky: oops... it was my fault 18.42.46 Quit MausP ("CGI:IRC") 18.43.01 Join webguest20 [0] (n=d95b2eb4@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-jzmdjzpmiuvdteit) 18.43.22 # Hi. I want to play some older radio shows that are only available as .ra files. Will the latest development build play them? 18.43.58 # New commit by 03jdgordon (r22474): hopefully get the widecabbie theme going again... temporary fix only though 18.44.30 Join martian67 [0] (n=martian6@about/linux/regular/martian67) 18.45.10 # rtjmay: depends what format is in those .ra files 18.46.21 # saratoga_: how do I determine that? 18.47.06 Quit martian67 (SendQ exceeded) 18.47.14 # presumably whatever software you play them with can tell you what type of audio they are, or you could just try them in rockbox 18.47.31 Join martian67 [0] (n=martian6@about/linux/regular/martian67) 18.48.06 # i think all but the oldest RA formats should work in rockbox now, although atrac won't play on all players yet 18.48.10 Quit pamaury (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 18.48.52 Quit FOAD (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 18.48.52 Nick FOAD_ is now known as FOAD (n=dok@dinah.blub.net) 18.48.53 Quit webguest20 ("CGI:IRC (Error)") 18.51.00 Quit robin0800 (Remote closed the connection) 18.51.19 # thanks 18.51.24 Quit rtjmay ("Ex-Chat") 18.51.24 Part evilnick 18.52.16 # Topy44: you have to follow the code to find the place. main.c (~l 440) has the output. the number comes from storage_init() (in storage.c) which in turn calls ata_init() (in ata.c). follow the functions in this, to find the place where it fails. 18.52.32 # thanks 18.53.12 # JdGordon: did you reenable the complete buffer? 18.53.33 # New commit by 03alex (r22475): Add remote button definitions for the gigabeat remote in preparation for ... 18.53.52 Quit BdN3504 ("CGI:IRC") 18.54.09 Quit blithe ("Reboot.") 18.55.13 # pixelma: just about.. it shold be within 200 bytes of the origional "size" 18.55.44 # *actual value may vary* 18.56.09 Join blithe [0] (n=blithe@72.14.176.144) 18.57.12 # but widecabbie was wasting much space anyway... 18.59.22 # JdGordon: I have a preliminary implementation of the firmware encryption/decryption setup now for the M:robe - it's just a re-implementation of what Shirour figured out, but you should be able to make new firmware images that the OF can use as an update now (in case you want to start messing around with that :) ) 19.00.03 # ohh sweeet 19.03.09 # kkurbjun: or, if you want to actually get it done faster i can send my jtaged mr500 to you? 19.07.07 Join JdGordon_ [0] (i=451f2b82@gateway/web/freenode/x-oavkceezleyrtwvg) 19.07.35 Nick YpsyZNC is now known as Ypsy (n=ypsy@geekpadawan.de) 19.13.23 Quit goffa_ ("leaving") 19.19.33 Quit bluebrother (Nick collision from services.) 19.19.38 Join bluebrother [0] (n=dom@rockbox/developer/bluebrother) 19.19.46 Nick Ypsy is now known as YpsyZNC (n=ypsy@geekpadawan.de) 19.28.34 # JdGordon: yeah, I might be interested eventually, what really needs to be done in the near term is adding in all of the device initialization that we don't do right now. That takes looking through docs and the linux source to make sure that everything is being handled properly. we need to go through that first before we start to flash the device anyway, so i think it'll be a while yet before that is done. 19.30.12 # Is anybody here familiar with getting Festival to work in the rockbox utility for linux?? 19.32.06 # jtrenchard: just make sure the path to festival server and client in rbutil TTS configuration are correct, and it should work. 19.32.36 # The path is correct, and I have voices installed however it still says invalid config 19.37.09 # it checks if server and client are both executable, and if a voice is set. if one of this is not correct it will say "invalid config". 19.37.59 Quit JdGordon ("Leaving.") 19.39.10 # ofcourse there could also be a bug in this. But i cant try this myself at moment. 19.39.51 Quit JdGordon_ ("Page closed") 19.40.35 # Domonoky: You said "and if a voice is set", do you mean selected in the drop-down box?? 19.40.42 # yes 19.41.10 # They're not showing up, even if I click refresh. 19.43.22 Quit saratoga_ ("Page closed") 19.45.48 # hm, looks like thats somehow broken :-/ 19.45.56 # i will look into this later. 19.47.03 # Ok, thanks, I'm in rbutil 1.2.1 and it's working fine... 20.01.29 # New commit by 03alex (r22476): Add remote keymappings to the Gigabeat F/X and Gigabeat S manuals. 20.02.19 # I think the button mappings tables need a slight rework - something like small gaps between rows 20.02.32 # Some of them are pretty horrible to try and read at the moment 20.02.47 # New commit by 03Domonoky (r22477): rbutil: fix festival tts handling. 20.02.59 # * pixelma is reminded of that suggestion.... 20.03.12 # jtrenchard: if found the bug. thank you for noticing and telling :-) 20.03.17 # r22477... ;D 20.03.26 # pixelma: Which was that? Has what I said been suggested before? 20.03.32 # IF so, I'll look into it 20.03.46 # The WPS keymapping table in particular is just nasty 20.04.14 # AlexP: we already talked about it - and posted a scheme to a pastebin 20.04.25 # Got a link? 20.04.39 # I wasn't here for that discussion 20.04.50 # sure 20.05.33 # and I talked to you about it, which is a while ago, I'm pretty sure of that. I need a minute, my laptop is a bit slow at the moment 20.05.41 # + 20.05.44 # ooops 20.05.54 # I don't remember, but it is very possible :) 20.06.02 # I didn't see a design though 20.06.09 # (that I remember) :) 20.06.31 # * pixelma is guilty of not putting it into the wiki as she wanted to 20.07.35 # or like 20.08.45 # pixelma: Ah, we are talking at corss purposes 20.09.00 # I mean in the manual produced (e.g. pdf), not the source files 20.09.03 # sorry? 20.09.11 # I remember the source file discussion 20.09.23 # ah hmm 20.09.36 # But I mean if you open a "end-user" manual, some of the button tables are next to impossible to read 20.10.25 # pixelma: Have a look at page 29 of the H100 manual 20.11.16 # That isn't easy to read IMO :) 20.11.50 Join derekja [0] (n=derek@cpe-72-225-238-206.nyc.res.rr.com) 20.11.54 Part derekja 20.12.28 # yeah, I also think that the columns are a bit too narrow, button combos or long lists of buttons need two or more lines too early and then it's hard to spot which explanation belongs where 20.13.11 # maybe thin lines between them or alternating background colour (very light grey and white or so) 20.13.17 # Yeah, one of those 20.13.23 # (plus wider columns) 20.15.15 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 20.18.47 # * Domonoky wants to enable users to generate .talk files only for specific files. But is unsure how to present this. Should i give a option to ignore specifc files, or a option to only voice specific files. And should this option be with wild cards (ie *.wav) or complete regexps ? 20.22.41 Quit PaulJam (".") 20.23.42 Quit moos ("Rockbox rules the DAP world") 20.30.03 Join fm [0] (n=4fd3da10@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-iapfrjpxenzhcprp) 20.42.39 # so many answers :-) i take the ignore option with wildcards. 20.43.05 # anyone have a better idea for the UI of this? current: http://imagebin.org/60751 20.44.52 # I was thinking about the photo.... I you want I can take some similar ones but of my H10, as for the rest of the UI, I say leave it, I hate anything that has too much skinning. 20.46.23 # Although saying that I do like your ideas for only creating talk files for a specific extension 20.46.25 Quit faemir (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 20.46.55 Join faemir [0] (n=faemir@78.33.109.163) 20.47.19 # I also take the option with the wildcards. 20.48.13 # jtrenchard: the general UI will stay, i just meant the new option to ignore files. maybe someone has a better idea to present this. 20.48.57 # Yes I realised that.... 20.49.20 # after typing without reading properly! 20.49.41 # ofcourse it would be nice to present photos of the currently selected target instead of this old archos photo. but thats not something i want to tackle now :-) 20.49.58 Join pamaury [0] (n=pamaury@sal63-1-82-243-96-220.fbx.proxad.net) 20.52.08 # * Domonoky just tried it with "*.txt,*.7z" for the ignore option and it works :-) So if nobody objects i will commit it shortly. 20.55.46 Quit fm ("CGI:IRC 0.5.9 (2006/06/06)") 20.57.52 # New commit by 03Domonoky (r22478): rbutil: add a option to ignore specific files for .talk file generation. 21.01.57 Join petur [50] (n=petur@rockbox/developer/petur) 21.05.56 # urgh, had to restart my Firefox and it struggled restoring the session because of the open rb.forums tabs 21.07.10 # sorry, wrong channel. The point though is that something is still not ok with the forums, I often get blank pages first and have to try loading them again 21.09.53 Quit faemir ("Leaving") 21.10.03 Join T44 [0] (i=Topy44@g227165072.adsl.alicedsl.de) 21.15.53 Quit Topy44 (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 21.25.14 Quit bluebrother (Nick collision from services.) 21.25.19 Join bluebrother [0] (n=dom@rockbox/developer/bluebrother) 21.26.58 Join JdGordon [0] (i=451f2b82@gateway/web/freenode/x-nidllzxtnvzlzhqn) 21.33.06 Quit JdGordon (Ping timeout: 180 seconds) 21.33.39 Quit togetic (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 21.40.28 Join n1s [0] (n=n1s@rockbox/developer/n1s) 21.47.59 Quit petur ("Zzzzz") 21.48.17 # Domonoky: You fixed rbutil, right? Do I have to compile it? 21.49.05 # jtrenchard: yes its fixed in svn. so if you want the fixed version you have to compile rbutil yourself. 21.49.43 # Ok, I might ask for some help in a minute then... if that's ok? 21.53.45 # sure, feel free to ask. 21.56.20 Join dotblank [0] (n=eli@pool-173-53-93-113.rcmdva.fios.verizon.net) 22.04.33 Join jtrenchard-mobil [0] (n=jamie@nat66.mia.three.co.uk) 22.06.50 # New commit by 03bluebrother (r22479): Extend beastpatcher command line. ... 22.10.11 # I'm still looking for any better suggestions about what to call the "other" button on the gigabeat remote (it is called "speaker" at the moment).... Any ideas? 22.13.04 # AlexP: Don't take this seriously, it's just a joke but have you thought about a "Rockbox" button, just like that button on my linux laptop that people call the "Windows" key. 22.13.27 # jtrenchard: There is no Rockbox logo on it 22.13.38 # There is however something that looks a bit like a speaker 22.13.47 # I know,, I said it was a joke 22.13.53 # AlexP: what does this button do in rockbox ? 22.14.01 # This is for the manual - I need a name for things like "press play" 22.14.23 # Self destruct button? 22.14.26 # Domonoky: A few things, but if I described it by function I'd call it menu I think 22.14.40 # Domonoky: It is called "DSP" in the code (no idea why) 22.15.02 # Domonoky: I guess I could call it menu, and then rely on a picture in the manual to tell people which that is 22.15.20 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 22.15.20 # :-) so why not call i menu (and label it acordingly in a image) 22.15.32 # relabel the physical remote :) 22.15.53 # Domonoky: Mainly because there are no remote images in the manual as of yet, and the image on it doesn't suggest menu 22.16.00 # "for using the remote with Rockbox you need to scrap of the label of that button and draw a different icon onto it" ;-) 22.16.02 # It looks something like a speaker :) 22.16.08 # bluebrother: nice :) 22.16.18 # * bluebrother wonders if it's a mute button in the OF 22.16.36 # might be, but it has a little + next to it too :) 22.16.44 # we often dont respect the label on buttons, so i think its no harm to call it "menu" 22.16.44 # I've never used the OF, so couldn't say 22.17.12 # yeah, probably best 22.17.49 # * Domonoky opens beer .. :-) 22.18.41 # * AlexP has no beer :/ 22.19.14 # linuxstb: how can we proceed for relicensing mknkboot.c? Schould I just change the license header and commit it or would it be better (probably) if you did as you are the author? 22.20.08 # New commit by 03alex (r22480): Call the oddly labelled button on the gigabeat remote "Menu" in the ... 22.20.22 # Domonoky: Your wish is my command :) 22.20.40 Join MausP [0] (n=d95b2eb4@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-ucsailbevhwksanq) 22.20.51 Quit MausP (Client Quit) 22.21.32 Join MausP [0] (n=5493431c@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-kwwcpcsflzudgnfd) 22.21.35 Join froggyman [0] (n=chatzill@pool-72-69-196-209.chi01.dsl-w.verizon.net) 22.21.35 # AlexP: command or commit? ;-) 22.21.46 # hehe, both :) 22.21.55 # :-) 22.22.32 Quit MausP (Client Quit) 22.23.54 # New commit by 03alex (r22481): Add gigabeat remote keymaps for pictureflow to the manual. 22.24.20 Join bertrik [0] (n=bertrik@ip117-49-211-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl) 22.25.14 Join bertrik_ [0] (n=bertrik@ip117-49-211-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl) 22.27.20 Quit parafin ("So long and thanks for all the fish") 22.27.39 Join MausP [0] (n=manfred@pd95b2eb4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 22.28.12 Quit bertrik (Client Quit) 22.29.19 # tried my iPod in my Volkswagen with the Volkswagen iPod adapter: and it works. ROCKBOX rocks :-) 22.29.34 # Glad to hear :) 22.29.53 # There is an IpodAccessories wiki page, perhaps you could add your findings to it 22.30.01 # That way others in the future will know too 22.30.29 # bluebrother: Got time for a latex question whilst you are here? 22.30.58 # sure. 22.31.02 # Cool :) 22.32.08 # Some of the button tables in the manual are very ugly and hard to read (see page 29 of the H120 manual) for an example. What do you think to adding either fient alternating colours to the rows, or a feint line inbetween rows, or just a space in between rows to better seperate them? 22.32.19 # And then the harder question: any idea how? :) 22.33.17 Join n00b81 [0] (n=n00b81@unaffiliated/n00b81) 22.36.11 Join parafin [0] (i=parafin@paraf.in) 22.36.26 # Domonoky: Would you be able to give me a quick run through on how to compile rbutil? 22.38.12 # jtrenchard: sure. you need qt4-dev and libusb-dev installed on linux. then navigate to rbutil/rbutilqt/ and run "qmake" (or qmake-qt4 depending on distro) and then make. 22.38.23 # Ok, thanks 22.38.35 Part n00b81 ("Leaving") 22.38.37 # * bluebrother wonders why exactly this is written down in the wiki :o 22.38.56 # AlexP: you meand colors in rows or columns? 22.39.04 # Is it written in the wiki? 22.39.16 # yep, check RockboxUtilityDevelopment 22.39.36 # bluebrother: rows mainly - I think the column seperation is not too bad, but with the rows it can get very hard to see what buttons belong to what description 22.39.53 # My web searching skill are getting worse by the hour :) 22.40.37 # AlexP: well, colored rows would be nice (and are definitely possible), though AFAIK they aren't possible automatically :/ 22.40.58 Quit dmb (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 22.41.32 # bluebrother: So you'ld have to add \colorx or \colory (or whatever the command is) to each line of each table? 22.42.01 # It's a little long-winded for me to fill out registration from, ask for wiki write permission, etc just for this one entry. 22.42.02 # maybe somebody else can do the entry 22.42.20 # bluebrother: Or a thin line between rows maybe (if that is easier? 22.42.34 # and specifying the background color on each row is lots of work, but worse is that it's going to break with \opts in the tables. 22.42.43 Nick YpsyZNC is now known as Ypsy (n=ypsy@geekpadawan.de) 22.43.42 # MausP: does this mean you expect someone doing the work for you? 22.43.59 # AlexP: you would need to add the line yourself too :( 22.44.17 # bum 22.44.44 # maybe there's something tabularx can do for us, but I've got to check the details (and understand them ... let's see if I manage that) 22.44.51 # That might break less on opts though, if you could just have e.g. \hline after the description 22.45.00 # bluebrother: Good luck :) 22.46.08 Quit n1s ("Lämnar") 22.46.30 # yeah, but it will make tables look ugly that don't really need it. 22.46.59 # true 22.47.12 # typesetting is really something hard. 22.47.39 # I feared as much, but some of the table are just urgh at the moment :) 22.48.10 # bluebrother: What about having spacing between rows? (I suspect this is also hard...) 22.48.38 # indeed. Though with the current complexity for the manual I'm wondering if there are better formats than LaTeX (that can get converted to LaTeX and HTML) 22.48.51 # Word? :P 22.49.06 # * AlexP hides 22.49.19 # spacing should be rather easy. It might loook equally bad though. 22.49.24 # ... OpenDocument? 22.49.38 # that's similarly bad. 22.49.42 # The trouble is all the opting on various features 22.49.54 # unreadable xml packed in a zip file. How can one diff that? 22.50.28 # A sprinkle of fairy dust??? Ok then I suppose not. 22.50.35 # AlexP: opt is one annoying thing, but we might be able to replace that with gcc. We need gcc anyway for building the manual, so it's not a real drawback. 22.50.38 # bluebrother: I don't expect that others do the work for me. Just asking. But for me it is no problem, if there is no entry in the IpodAccessories wiki page 22.51.07 # jtrenchard: Also, how do you include/exclude/change things like buttons/screenshots for each different target? 22.51.40 # MausP: how do you expect someone who doesn't know you (a) to know your wiki name and (b) how to handle your password? Or are you talking about putting the data in the wiki page instead of signing up? 22.51.51 # Ok, opendocument isn't the best for this application. 22.52.14 # jtrenchard: Have a look at the manual source, it is slightly complicated :) 22.52.29 # jtrenchard: the manual has been an OOo document in the past (some years ago). Moving to LaTeX was the best thing we could have done that time. 22.52.58 # the problem is that devs tend to port to more and more targets, making the manual more and more complex. 22.53.03 # yep 22.53.06 # someone stop this porting! 22.53.12 # We should ban it! 22.53.14 # Yes i can see the point now. 22.53.25 # Only20 supported targets allowed at any one time :) 22.53.47 # so with new targets, we should just drop the old ones :-) 22.53.53 # drop those stupid AMS targets! We already have Sandisk players, no need for more! 22.54.12 # which has also the advantage that there is less work to do :P 22.54.46 Quit mitk ("Leaving") 22.54.56 # maybe we should limit it to only one target per manufacturer *hehe* 22.59.09 Quit stoffel (Remote closed the connection) 23.11.08 Join Zagor [242] (n=bjst@46.35.227.87.static.tab.siw.siwnet.net) 23.16.11 # ...we could get rid of the manual. rockbox is so intuitive, anyway, and none of the controls or options are ever confusing or inconsistent, especially in the plugins. 23.18.54 # Unhelpful: A good point 23.19.31 # * AlexP is not being overly successful at his reading latex documentation to make it do coloured rows 23.19.41 # what if we made rockbox more cult-like, and required that every new user goes through an ordeal and that they most know one current member? 23.19.42 # (automatically) 23.20.54 Part MausP 23.21.08 # would the ordeal work something like this? http://pbfcomics.com/?cid=PBF071-Weeaboo.gif 23.23.55 # no, we would need a different key word... 23.24.12 # maybe C++ or malloc 23.25.05 Nick Ypsy is now known as YpsyZNC (n=ypsy@geekpadawan.de) 23.28.28 # New commit by 03zagor (r22482): Fixed "gcc: no input files" message. 23.30.15 Join kugel [0] (n=kugel@rockbox/developer/kugel) 23.30.26 # hey, i'm practically proposing malloc lately. aside from the parts where it's pointer-based, or relies on VM. :P 23.30.29 # saratoga: we have charging on the yh925 23.30.39 # did I happen to forget to update the wiki? 23.39.15 Join matsl [0] (n=matsl@1-1-4-2a.mal.sth.bostream.se) 23.40.40 Part jtrenchard ("going to bed") 23.43.44 Part jtrenchard-mobil 23.46.58 # bluebrother: Got it :) 23.47.06 # automatic colouring of rows :) 23.47.51 Join FOAD_ [0] (n=dok@dinah.blub.net) 23.49.11 Quit FOAD (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 23.49.12 Nick FOAD_ is now known as FOAD (n=dok@dinah.blub.net) 23.50.42 # bluebrother: http://aeparker.com/files/rb-test.pdf 23.54.53 Quit Omlet () 23.58.25 # gevaerts: could the bootloaders somehow be miscalibrated? everyone does them really slowly.